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you broke work too. I know you worked on all the time, but New year's his pride, pretty big for you, oh yeah years, is, like others, has the big the big day for all the other artists, solid aegis. Yes, but I mean this same. Sometimes I got tropical places and does it different countries, but this summer's gonna Miami, where you yeah right words, my mama's from I lived there when I was a kid, the Miami, it's interesting, how different the fire of different in California yet is all the different. It's a little bit different Stillwater Spanish spoken yeah given does was similar ass. She was then it's a similar but different cycle that is like this is Mexican spanish yeah. That's cuban Spanish came their issues so fast. I think as compared to the spanish but I've as posted the depths of the mexican dialect. I feel like Cuba, spanish, sound so fast is also faster me anyways yeah, but

its, but most people are kind of in this mode of our Irish gotta get there one more week and then I can down and projects. For three days and then I can finish, yeah yeah. It's like this LAS Vegas every weekend owed for I decide technically live yeah, but I'm I'm I'm the one more of the observer. The lawyer right, I see, I see the big weekends happening variables yeah I just got

sure that I can make that big. We can happen for them, you're, standing on stage and just watching everything conducting the orchestra yeah and there the their players there, the diskette you know John Taffir, no John Tafurs, a big restaurant guy and a promoter and an equally he comes in. He has a show called bar rescue and he comes in and he fixes people's failing bars, but he also opens a lot of places in he's, got a bunch of places in Vegas and just hearing I mean I, I know I had a somewhat aided somewhat of a grasp of the kinds of numbers we were talking about and bus vacuous, but when he started. Going through it like you know, can be fifty or a hundred bucks to get into a club right plus the door, then all the drains, and if you want a table of your guys, a complete resorting girl, that's one thing for sure: come with extra care. If you're pretty girl, you I mean it's just the rule out the red carpet puts you

the table with some Summah hungry thirsty. Those the nice nice. What you want to make it I mean it is it is it's not uncommon for, like I was like a thousand dollars a person near us, I was gonna. Get a table you want to show off and biggest is all about, showing off we, the genius of it is playing the people's egos to give them money. It's so disturbing and purple it is totally words, capitalism at its fight, as I guess what you want to call it, but it's what kind of interesting is you live in LOS Angeles. You driver and you see all these. You see all these names of people whose that guy, like always a dj, there's all these dj billboards, all over LOS Angeles, you sort of real will. These guys are incredibly well paid entertainers because of units pop over to Vegas and do a couple a shows in its if its Puget deal

you know what them. I think the main thing this changes at now the dj is are actually making decisions on how much they there they're supposed to be getting paid right at their part of the economic structure before the dj was say, a fixture in the club is just like a another reason, a girl, but they weren't paid properly. They weren't like the reason why people are going to the clubs so winded that change and what was the evolution of being just a SEC, We, like you, know your box verses, Person is a real entity that controls the via the room, and when that happens I say I can. I actually give crow, two to one person and we are now laying we're talking about allay loaded here I have to give. De JAM and De Jam was one of the huge First celebrity personality dj that

from the underground and and really showed off his skills, but also was able to play pop culture. These pop culture, you like a pop culture jukebox by, but in a technical way of DJ his able to mix all different kinds of genres in a way where people were so amazed. It wasn't like playing Itunes. It was like something was happening. There was incredibly special and and at the celebrity personnel Lee that attracted so many different. You know somebody different cultures and some people that that he was the first one to really create economic structure for judges. Who is a first? I'll pay DJ in America is a way was a dj. Ever looked up to like why did you am two thousand and seven or two thousand got a residency making twenty twenty twenty five thousand dollars a show and now is unheard of when you're making. I remember the time was bogey like five hundred bucks, and I was happy yeah

like I was making to earn hours in a bar tab. You know, maybe seventy dollars in a bar tab at the local bar yeah. You know, and you look up to those dj there like ok, is a personality and he's he's doing way, loves Adieu and ended. Their clubs are actually tritium like this is talent. This is an artist that is going to bring in people and we have to pay them. According to you know how many people are they're, bringing it yeah. So what is it? What is the? What does the the sight of it to people who go? Oh, what's a bug could just plug my iphone and consider eager employable sounds like how do you? How do you respond then how do you explain what it is that you do and why it is important in that world I mean I mean there's so many different reasons why you go see an artist. You know, let's like this taken like the word artist Nellie he thinks he saw go sing and seeing their hearts out news. You see the sea, though the beauty and quality of their voice, or

a ban playing their songs and, and sometimes the band isn't about being technically the best banned, but like they're, just raw now that that that energy, that they give off you know, whether as those bans or whether as a dj, in many cases dj is that are popular now are not still known for their technical skill level, but known for their songs and songs. At the end of the day, what I've realizing this being a dj from playing in bars before I was producing and being a dj, were now my songs have connected two people around the world? The songs themselves are the ones that are are are the reason why people associate them They want to go to a party or club they like. I want to hear this dj music

is it also representing this culture that I love and you go for that you go for that experience and once again that also ties in like when you goes, go see somebody Jay and they represent your culture. It's absolutely more of an exponential feeling. You can you go there to experience something that the sounds of that culture or the songs from that dj that that that move just like you, Asia Band yeah, it's different than it's been like rocking out at a show. You know when you go see a band like foo fighters, you just rocking out and and you and then you leave it's like a it's a different kind of feeling: cuz you're, you're you're there to dance you're there to be part of your be there to party, but you're. Also there to be part of that,

that culture. You know it's like, I'm gonna, go see it ADHD Jeremy go see, Quest Lublin, like you know, old school function and hip hop Romany, go see you now, let's it's like there representing different cultures that part of Europe and bold. But like you, I guess what you're saying like what are they doing right were dj. Doing me we're doing all kinds of things swells like is not just I mean it's a different ways to to manipulate and translate your music. You are once again, you are conducting that your controlling the ruling, the room and how you control the room is all subjective too to you. You yourself are responsible for how the knights gonna go and some dj

are like. Okay, this is our play, my music coming to be an artist and play my music, whether you like it or not, as some people like give me out of here right and then some dj is no like. You know like, for example, for me when I, when I go your room. I make a decision like I'm thinking. Okay, this is LAS Vegas. So little, the people here that that I know who I am no Stevie Oki like I asked- are ridiculous nets, or I saw me, I know one song are, you know, was on call but those guys other, so I'm playing differently, I'm playing I wanna, be I want to connect with, as many

on the room and in many ways I learn that from GM to be democratic, you know too, like look at the room democratically and think about how many people you can touch of you know we mostly connect with yet and the workplace, Dv Oki concert or show I'm playing the Stevie Oki songs right and I'm doing this tv Oki set and, of course I have to give that the vaguest shows too sure you gotta give that and then give a loaded, the different angle. In I'll play the by the signs, are there you it with your songs, so you're your conduct but you're reading the room and any? Are you going We all go this. What are you sort of following the energy of the and you yeah you have to be able to? I think it's no interesting points that you have to be able to just just like when you're on stage and you you don't just read off a script right. You know you have a script that you know:

you're going to talk about, but you wanna be able a rip off people jack, you wanna, you wanna, you wanted to be organic too. The situation you wanted to write, you wanted to be a unique experience, with that particular Oddy and as it makes a special for everyone when you you're not like a robot right and, unlike you know when people are being body. You know it immediately whether you once you see like there's like this line that people just like take this. Follow it no matter what they can't turn left or right. I mean eventually Emmy poor dumb. They they get after, like you know, sixty sixty four the way through a young. Unless I mean, if you can rip off things in life, Those are the things you remember as the things. I remember me like I want to remember like the moments where it was something that happened, enabled it take take advantage of that moment, be partly environment yeah. I remember When I was in college my roommate will we were we

We are really into raves for appeared for a period of time, and it was really it was that it was right when they kind of exploded in MRS, like ninety one, ninety two and they just sort of started exploding. Here I mean like the big warehouse ones or as I go some weird industrial park in its? You know, and I remember going you know: we'd go. Mailros Avenue Use Day like the Haven Fur DJ at the time it was there are all these like beats nonstop all these record shops Zaragoza and records on there, and we would thus ceremony no, no marrow, bizarre melt. Meroz was really all the like. The other dj stores you could buy turntables there and you could buy an analog alot of DJ had sections there and you could

Why you know like a set by a guy like gonna, Dj Dan, like he had the set that you could buy, one that beats yeah, he's gone, fabulous Like a stable moroz me, I was going. There are more hip, hop and scratch. Turntable is about tat, but you you go there, unlike you, follow different genres, different deeds is an, and I mean the culture was so was so pure and so small, but it was. It was as very potent yeah I mean in, and I remember seeing me spinning three turntables at a time and then just like mixing it was it was it was. I was so fascinated by the the mechanics of because everything, because the guys we're really good it would obviously I mean an arms describing digging up, but it was it was so fluid and smooth, and it was Diffee and the only way that you knew that things were changing was you could see the record come

all right get a media ex one. I have his ear and the thing right you know but running like truth, like three tables at a time yeah that moving parts that's happening, yell once cause might at the speed my roommate will had a bit of and so he bought turntables. This isn't so hard. I tried it and it was broken hard and it was really hard and it was. It was obviously it is actually they make. It look easy, but that's what people who are experts do right? They make things easy. What are you so when your? What what? Where are you now? Is there one place Vegas at you mainly perform at? Do you have a residency, replace the Eid I'm with high costs on right and what they have a lot of the billboards and town yeah there there, like the also have Omni as well. There part of their own army as well so haha, Gm Omnia Caesar's are the two clubs that exclusive with in LAS Vegas. I'm always there are technically live in LAS Vegas yeah, I'm alive

like my heart, is an ally and aid, and I do my my Denmark, my record labels phase out of here my managers Basler here, but LAS Vegas Rosetta. How long are you set? It ranges you know like ninety minutes is is like the minimum, but sometimes have gone like three and a half hours for hours, but ass. If I'm relieved as vying and yeah but general generally about. Ninety minutes. That's up at yeah! That's about that's a good amount of time that it means is like it. That's a good kind of entertainment unit like, stand of shows about ninety minutes. The IRA Gooden do no decent movies about. And he made a lot of movies narrowly guys like three hours might be too long. Ninety minutes is a good entertainment union. If you like, that's about it, that's a good arc for people right. For the for the the General Non dance community, people that's a great arc yet, but for further and the dance heads I mean some diseases, I know like their average set time is about six to eight hours

cheese is right in its sights about stamina, it's about like being in a groove and once you're in this pocket of like of worry just kind of stay in this place in your meaner in her head. You could you could ride on that save for a long time and not realize you're. Writing on that way. For two hours will that's a good cause. I feel like that that what you're describing happens in everything it like there there's that moment that zone that Jackie Low, do do you have any? Would you have a way to get into that like you know how to get in and that really quickly can sometimes people it's a tough place for people to get to the more, but the more you force is the less likely you are

they're. So how do you slide into it? I'll tell you that, like the dj second can continue making you feel like help EU continue that flow and being in the zone. That is a skill at skill. It you have to have a means, and it's a different kind of dj. It's as I can just like we're talking about what does the scratch dj is there's a skill set on DJ that can they make you feel something make you groove in this space for sixteen hours without drugs. Good amicus, let me I like for me it's not even the like, of course, be Borg and you drugs, like you, know whatever but like for me. I can get in a pocket and whenever I am like tuna hours in and I'm not high on anything, but the music anal I'm definitely praising the dj and I'm just lay while- and I did I did I'd- keep him APOLLO, and I watched Luciano lays laggard incredible dj new guy that I heard mark. How

another one. Whether stages again can throw you were in a pocket and diesel like this. Let you ride out for a really long time. It's an incredible. I know it's incredible, see that happening and and feel it yeah at. So you pretty much you. I would imagine you know, All the players in is like there to community. Ever we are gonna knows each other. It is actually you know before I was in Iraq, seen in and in running my label, Denmark, with we ve. Why cross so many different genres, so many different and it seems like the deaf John or the music. How how the bands are artists were together, or they split up and in clicks with the dj I mean there was a time when the dead, the sub generous of electronic dance, music or whatever you call. It were very, very separated now the walls have come down. You know maybe for five years ago and allow ideas are worth

together in collaborating on music- and it's not so strange- I mean there are the poorest and, like all my god, I can't believe my dj. It plays music. It doo, Doo, Doo, doo doo, a music with this guy, goes to to do, and then the not joking, I'm not joking, because, like there's, there's Jonah's a music are specific to the ppm, and if you change your bp em, there's there's like the purest at that absolutely go crazy on you and it's crazy out our smallest detail. Every every industry China has its own pure. Serenely like the hard core hardliner radically, who feel like it's their responsibility to define what have they rise, rather than enjoying things exact, but that's all that's what we do with stuff so is it? Is there? Are there other some? Other sub cultures who go well, you know you should use lighting and effects or not.

You should never do that. It should Jerry the Muse S, criticism there to this crisis on on the idea of production yeah and how it takes away from the music- and I mean this criticism, for everything like, I think the area we should just shut up and enjoy the Albania like, I have to say I'm pretty when those criticized AEGIS, really you, because you know besides play music and dj, I'm also entertaining The crowd by you know adding in this idea of throwing taking your face moral, like having a raft right ridden over the crowd, which I call Wye River after doing fine little things that are like that I've kind of inherited from, you know, being in the punk rock foreseen and and and like having this no rules attitude. Like words like the ideas about having fun. You know this makes a lot of sense. To me, this makes a lot of to me, and I am sure that this it was. This was apparent. You, but I know you're a big brutally fan

I know that its name, that I know that your record labels named IVF pilot. That was his. His thing was like. Why can't we just use this interdisciplinary practice of Gioconda put pulling all the best stuff right? Why does it? It was the exact Thing appears going. No, you can't do that just well. Why Why can't I do this in this? In this and ride what works best exactly as just like a mean, there are no rules, I may at the end of the day it people leave. Smiling face and Zella had at the time of their life. Then I feel like as that's a win. That is, oh I'd suffering to hear you say that yak as it is partially into particularly, how did you get a lot of your go? Well, that's not really communism Well, it's colony of people are laughing at haven't been fun, do so like all this stuff is subjective. I mean it's art its objective in you. You know you was an audience member connect with stuff in different ways, because you bring your own baggage to it. I mean you know. The artist is really just what I think conductor is the perfect word

you're sort of conducting the audiences flow, and you know people are, and then some people are, but it's kind of interesting, and so it doesn't does, bother you there. You criticise Verde like whatever you don't get. It mean hum human to know. If I read a couple things you're in there of like it hits me an end, but then I like it's happened enough, were you know a bit wiser. Obviously in right, our stand is just a copious. Also a kid. It's just Watts again reaction, but you know actually, when you get from your peers, is, as does when I'm like, would like someone that's in the industry and and wants to really make known then its side. Ok, you know it's like it's gonna raise attention for me. Is it super competitive or as everyone pretty supportive its? I say. Ninety five percent very harmonious but there is not the opposite way. Around good is only a few.

Out loud mouth, haters out there that that let me thus, despite that there finale arise how they are an ill. You know they're the ones. Remind about whatever at the end of day, like it's an opinion, that's okay! It's like you know. Unless I think, in the end of days, you just tell your dad got accepting it's like okay, I don't like this. Ok cool I don't have to do is, in our view, are safe I've said things like, but but you do like two hundred and fifty shows a year or something that some insane number like that he has cut of incessant. How often do you evolve?

said: is it is it ever changing ya mean the evolution of my said is all based on my music. So the end of the day. It I mean you know they say with with artist you're you're, no mere less head. It's it's a sort of similar with electronic music, except that, like tripe music culture, really dies in to your catalogue. It's almost like a pop based culture where you could be hit and then you're like nobody afterwards right. I mean luckily for that cause I don't like I have hits. You know like I'm, based on songs that people here about through the internet and thank God for that arose. I wouldn't have a career so, and I mean us the great thing about the idea that artists now have more control of their there, their destiny or their music than they ve never had before. Thank you for that, because I've I've wooden exit,

that's why I do Denmark records in my label in and support the small geyser that are trying to make him break it. That's that's what I was that's what I still am unsolved. Going back to the sites, like you know, that's the fun part of of this whole process is there is like this show is kind of like the tail end of the process, the beginning in the process. The beginning started process is to production. The music and the production of music is is influenced by the sounds that are exciting. You now and a power of now. The power of now have a song of the power of an election is based on the card, Tobruk yeah, of course. Slowly

now, setting out in Ivan Music video like setting out on a hill which isn't really I currently use meditative. In any case, you know that's like that. Process is a lot of fun and ruddy music that you you're, hoping will connect to fence around the world, which is also another great point that this music is is like you know, a majority of the music is without lyrics, so it transcends now. Meal You know languages, but it cultures and its global and it unites all kinds of people, and you really see at these huge festivals, yeah, and it's amazing thing to see when you play it like tomorrow, any you look out their main stage and every was dotting their flag and there's over, does actually more countries at this one festival than the Olympics Oh my go yeah I've seen where was maybe

Glastonbury or some members Glastonbury, but it was. You know in going back to the rave days, one of the big one of the one of the guys. I really liked was the guy behind prodigy yeah, and that was such an interesting. Being that it be whence I mean I assume I haven't read is Bio, so I don't know exactly what it did, but it seemed to me he went from being a dj too. Are we kind of assent abandoned their hours, but it wasn't the guy legally and how, at the end, the analysis is not the singer. He's not the thing he's the producer he's. The pre was the producer, and so the bit it's a prodigy evolved at ban into a ban right from a dj by if you go back and listen to the to the early prodigy dj stuff, it's fucking great, lot of great samples in it and there's a song Charlie, that I always loved which people can go back. Fine on the internet. I'm sure, but you know I, in a box somewhere, George. I have all of these old like warehouse.

Six and gone I write collection that that was, you know, do you ever see? Do you ever see evolving back to into something you came from Iraq background like. Oh, maybe I wanna be no produce and make us music and kind of front a ban, and I have a band come in. The problem with the ban structure is that there is a lot of different personalities and indifferent decisions, and I like to highlight is tat my own little corner and right and and produce email, music of the gay anyone else to say this is wrong. He's right. I've like I've tried both, and you know I'm happy to do the ban thing at some point again, but but like it's when you, when you have role of your own music and you could do it the way you want to do it is it's a desk using the world? Yet, oh that, that's what I'm saying How did she was? I I feel it. There was a video musical words one year where they cut to prodigy playing, I feel like it was Glastonbury, but I'm not only for censure, but it was me

people than I had ever seen at once in the aerial shot. It just look like this through. Being organism with no light go ay I mean it, it is different, then I guess, if you're seeing a bank as we are seeing a band, you really, focused on the band, but if anything out here, you're focused on the music exactly as they comply with a well. You said that, because, when you're watching a band like everyone's staring up at this stage, there their head bobbing there into it but they're not into like their seeing when you're out a dj. When you did you festival and you see five, forty thousand people heaving jumping at the same time, and and there it's not about salesman,

nothing to us with a rock band? It's about the rawness about like the distortion in the noise, in the chaos and with a dj. It's about hearing music at the best quality at at it's supposed to be is not supposed to be. You know unfiltered it is, it is filtered. It is made to be the best sound ruddy hearing pristine quality and mixed with the songs that you know, if not dj, and it's yes about the environment is actually ten percent of show any look up on sage. This is he or she there, this small, and so you see the lights, production. You see the the lasers and you see that in your ear, surrounded by UNICEF, tens of thousands of other people, but these festivals, of course, you're, going to feel something as yet. You know it's something something completely different than seeing a rock band yapping that that is gonna be an unbelievable,

the ball feeling to be standing on a stage and orchestrating that many human beings at one than I had the best is that it's like they all become one singular force or whether there are being together, whether all like waving together doing some sort of movement together, whether it there? along together they become one gigantic force and it's incredible. Org Mumia evening. That's that's awesome men, especially when there's the singing your songs like girls in Sao Paulo just denial. Doc out the music and hear them singing along to one hundred. Are you the euro like four years ago? Whatever may be, you know, still hits you no matter how many times you played a place on the songs over thousands of times. You know and it hits you in a different way

You know, like always, people signal long due to the saved that, as you know, the song that in early I almost forgot about here and also the other cool thing- is that I'm sure some of the debate- get to live relatively anonymous, lives yeah sure so that their strong. Yet he also it it's like it. It is it's different in that way to us now, like your plastered like like you're, ok, Perrier, canoe, west everywhere, you know it's not about your face, is more about eastern music and, like light, is talking about the inhaler regime to ignite daft punk, for example, you know like it's not about who they are about like who Thomas being alter and energy are like what they look like spa, their music and how its touch so many people right is. It am. I forgive me for asking this if this is really obvious, did your dad really create Benihana Sergio ass. He did

that's crazy, a sort of a lie, but my grandfather, he started a cafe in the rubble of world war, two called Benningham and is the name of a flower they grew was the only father grew through the rubble because they had a little cafe, and there is this. It was this that has devastated area and in the slaughter popped up. A red flowers, Cobb Albania, why any wasn't it wasn't like a tap on yucky was like a showman. It was a small cafe with an incredible story of a sort of surviving through that period of time and my father inherited the name and an open up Benihana in New York when he he came to America History is incredibly came to America, a wrestler and affected from the olympic group that he was whether something and heavy user ice

man in Harlem living out there and keep you know if raised enough money to get a loan to open up a restaurant and and it hit is there a grandfather came to help them with the restaurant and decided to bring in these tables. By a key grills to confront a people and- and that was never done in Amerika. I especially like this is nineteen forties here, so that that's also really tough trying time for japanese people post World WAR, two sure so end. Our just his success is incredible story himself? Did? Did you know your grandfather had already? I didn't I didn't. Is he passed away before my time, but I had plenty of stories. So I'm a mean it is yeah. I mean to hear what it must have been like to be a japanese o, a japanese immigrant and then a japanese american right tat. You know in that particular time

and still to be able to to thrive to write to be they allow in the rubble. I mean that's a pretty incredible things too. To survive It is incredible to till I carried out I grew up watching his success by the strange thing was as I grew up, I I I I can rebelled against it in a way. You know, like you, Benihana Estate House, you know when I would I started understanding who I was or the going through my own identity issues as a as a tween I found vegetarianism, and- and I was vegetarian funeral for fifteen years, like you know, kind of not understanding you know, then he hot as being a stake out and not really wanted to go there. But this is a strange causing yeah I mean I, but I think that probably

That sounds more in line with your family, like the personality that was sort of handed down of like to create my own thing and find my own thing, an I'm gonna do a bunch of different things in order for newer and invent in oh and create stuff, I mean it sounds pretty similar right. You just you know. Your grandfather did it with a cafe your dad. Did it with a steakhouses yeah you're doing it with with art, I mean it said, but at all it's all public, it's pretty line right here I mean he's. Also. The kind of father is like a tough love parent, so he never is kids any money. Never he never daughters of gifts. Sometimes you know and use these tough dead is a tough dad and like it is. The best thing I ever did was not actually investing or helping us out financial.

And in the end I ve had to grow up on your own, like that's how he did it, so he had a figure that out himself so he's icon it. If you spoiled us, we ve, I don't think we could have grown, you know or siblings, myself included could have grown. You know to stand our feet and actually do something. You well because Yak Z, you you would have been, you would just to serve its just darwinian you wouldn't have evolved. I didn't know that yeah needed to yeah exactly that itself. Psych now gained the age of were in Ireland Kisyak, but I've been thinking about what kind of dad I would be, and it would definitely be. You know, along the same footsteps, but with the grating, as I had a mom that was extremely carrying and so self listen and Anne. But she was

compassion and not in the end, the right ways and light we know connecting human to human, and that was really really important for me growing up to us, I, like very tough dad. You need to figure out how to get New York? You wanna come dj or of you need you. You want money for you like ass, not like. I asked him, but because I would always afraid too well. If you want to start this label, regulate, will business at we're in your dean. You gotta figure yourself I'll, not give any money, and you know you have to do yourself. You have to get the tool funny you and figure it out, and if you can't do that, then you got problems Have you got any idea like you figure that I like you, I did not play guitar become our friends. Guitar picked up the guitar and saw a German out. My friends and I M not a record music, so I got my first task for tracker quarter and learn how to play the instruments and record refers demo. Sixteen. These are all things that

I didn't get training for a lot of stuff. I mean I owe a lot of it to the the hardcore straight edge community. That was part of because at that time it was all about it's all about this idea that you can just the idea of discovery and being able to take the tools in front of you and make something happened right. Well, it's you know it. When you look at em in Ghana, I've by probably we ve done almost eight hundred podcast and I've talked to some of the most successful people on every in it. In so many different facets of the world, not just entertainment, but big business to and technology and in which I live. Just yesterday had to Catherine Kennedy on who was co, founder of ambling with Steven Spielberg. You know who would later become a hundred franc marshal, and she said you know Spielberg really loved, even when it got successful loved creating limitations and boundaries, because it forced him to be more creative and gay rights stuff to talk to work

in the same kind of thing, you're saying where having like getting the task like having to figure the shit out yourself right was so much more able than someone just handing it to absolutely, and you have to have the hunger, because everything is built on passion, yeah and if you're not passionate, then it will fall apart right. You know you need to believe in what you're doing and if his hand it to you more likely than It will fall apart right because you won't appreciate the value at its appreciation, value passion, those are all that the building blocks of success. Do you kind of really mean it? it sounds like you're, either very spiritual, a very philosophical or maybe both, but how do you sort of stay focused like how to you what what is it do have like a We ritual is that of meditation ritual or like a daily gratitude. Ritual or what's your thing I wish I could give us rich

I just I don't really have one. I tried meditation and I could say that that's part of it, but that was later. You know I mean that was later in my stage of understanding how organizing and build teams. So the day it's I mean it's the people around you that also believe in your vision that are going to help the vision happen, and so, when it comes to business when it comes to like all the different businesses, as I do have- and I have multiple businesses everything relies on who, who is in your team and trial, Marin, figuring out the right decisions and not making the same mistakes again, on, why you hired that that person or not yet- and I mean the teams- are actually everything and we as far as a ritual like I'd, say that would be the ongoing rituals making sure your team is, right team and no matter how many like how may teams are built, I'm always learning. What is.

Right team. What isn't right here I got him back here is this: the regime are no resistance of a democratic she's got I'll. Tell you why this guy's rights, because he's wearing and after you sure do you see that there is an after all over there, we're we're have ten year anniversary dinner, we ve been working together from for ten years, LAO from when who is a horrible dj? He wasn't, he wasn't. Even a manager and, and we're like, let's, let's conquer the world together and and we are ten years later, three million five and giving him a lot headache taking you want my money, but that's that's part of the fun part about about having to fit shit out on your own is then you're, not as afraid to fail, because you, like I, to build a thing. It didn't work I'll, try this brought us try this like it. You really. You know there is no there's nothing.

With fucking up as long as you can learn from it and nuclear, I again their success in every failure. If you can find the success YAP and weirdly, You sort of look back at your life. You go Wolf, I didn't like those failures were a gift because How exactly if I hadn't factor, even though they felt shooting at the time? Oh my god, if I hadn't follow my face or I hadn't fuck this up or if this hadn't been yanked away. I never would have learned this to then be where I am now right now Oh, it's resilience giving resilience through the failure yeah because I think a lot of times the flower rubber. You know it's it's like morale man, you you get to a point where you're like I'm done now. I fucking fall, my face, summits have slain

ok. Actually, you know what you need is for you to be delayed as a boy where light you don't want to keep pushing it because, like you know, there's a stories were like a mad kept trying to give trying to give, try and put on a billionaire right, but like some like a lot of people that that's think, like they're gonna, keep trying and become a Billy They may not ever do that right to stop they needed like Starbucks. Maybe this is my thing going to try something else. You know, because I think that story hits more often than not. I think I think when that happens, people are more obsessed with the with the the goal and they're not sort of like we re saying when you're doing a set, their kind of a robotic mode and they're not listening, because I think a lot of times If people go to linear, you know I heard anything's possible, but it just isn't possible cuz. I couldn't figure it out. It's like yeah, but along the way you need to ask her.

Is this still right for me, as is still something even want to do? Is this something that that makes you knows is something that I am still passionate about him. I just passionate about achieving this goal to for my ego, or am I really pay? If you're really passionate about the thing in the process, then it doesn't It doesn't then nothing else, matters which goes right back to the power of now. You know it's not about the the end results about the journey. Yeah, oh yeah. So exciting about the vote with you right now. So power now is forget awesome because you don't, because even if you made that billion dollars, even if you cross whatever sort of go, you wanted to achieve its. Not that thing doesn't change you. What changes you involves you is how you got there. Let me that's all: that's all the earning process. Yes, why, when they asked the five your question on my fucking, no clue, because you asked me five years ago stifling. I hear yeah and five years before that absolutely nowhere near here. Yeah, you know. So it's just

I gotta go with with drives you at the moment and then make the most of it with, but the teams you have and the struggles suck, but that's where the most growth happens, yeah! That's where you find out who you are and that's where you really so it you know. I think it is good for people because I'm sure there lot of people like yourselves like, oh, I wanna be a self start, or would it be not only where I want to build stuff? I wanna citing this one in most probably the most ask questions, especially when people is an impact s like this, like how do I get there we guy, I desire is actually needs that you can't think about what there is right. What now, as you know, it He now real? like I may, I start in fucking bedroom to living room in applying, shows and fucking I've ever like. I will on toward my bad making, like Emma, regain twelve dollars for a show driving twelve hours to play front of ten people and lit,

legal right now I need to know, was names and then like was we're going to the show and we're gonna. Hang on afterwards and I got paid twelve dollars and we had a driver or twelve hours and they show and I'll fucking loved it I would like this is why I am so happy I'm on the road of play. My music singing people actually know my size of these ten people actually care to come to my show and like remembering that too is actually very important. Yet great, it's a you know, it's kind of funny Katy were deserves. Our producer was just mentioning last night just about how you know there is kind of an entitlement I think with theirs

sort of a youth entitlement. Rapierlike. Why don't understand? Why can't have now? You know- and Katy pointed out that I have to give you might run for this, getting because you said something that never really occurred to me or which is you go yap? This was one of those like these goddamn kids. Today, China conversations- I don't like you know that there's a generation of who grew up in a in a culture of we can never tell anyone there doing anything wrong. We can never were everywhere. To get an award there's whenever she- and you know you said, like you, don't you don't learn shit that way now I mean I was like part of it where I saw the difference Gazeta, my support and I grant and like when. I was really when I first started. If we didn't get first, second, their places. Get a trophy when it get anything, and then I saw it all of a sudden you're, getting participation trophies and everyone's getting the same trophy. Unless I get my neighbours

years younger. I sought with him and they have like commercials and stuff about this now but yea. I decided to notice that how like teachers would be more careful about what they were say they wouldn't criticise you, and now it's two sites, like you can't say anything, the kids. They think that they're all right! and I could they saw a group. A little more entitled inspecting, didn't kind stone, stank, flatly, jumping everyone they do is special in their perfect and thus of does about were right. There at item it s like the Abbe. If you, if you even, I think that people need to understand what the word means to themselves and and understand like what like terms like gratefulness, are gratitude and of where you are and and how to make that something real. You know that that's the problem, I think, with lot of people, that I've heard is a don't be entitled to anything

I mean unless you created yourself right, you know like if you create yourself, you have every right to be entitled to that, but I dont tell TAT things that that's not yours to be entitled. For you know it's! U have to creature. You know your own way, you see in county, sometimes we see young comics and then they, like. You know man Nobody'Ll book me on the road like Hell even set up. Eighteen months takes longer that link to get you know, I don't expect to saving their. None of the clubs varies book. We were due you gotta. You gotta get there actually getting here in time sway. Also like you with every effort with everything that this out there is always saturation yes and it so it's over. It's always can be saturated yeah. If especially people love the art of what it is. If people love like going to the clubs with AEGIS, it's gonna, be saturated, people are going to come.

Shows it's gotta be exaggerated. You gotta be doing something different, be you and do something. That's you most people don't even know who you it like. Anyone know who they are a grey area like you, don't you rarely ask those questions of yourself. Who am I? What do I want like they're, very basic questions, but most people don't ask them rags. I think if you did, you might get different answers, then, what think you want is such a strange thing and of an end, if you dont know than is always is what you want to be, and is that what you want to be someone else right and that's thus, whereas, like you have to stop yourself there, Do I really do I want to be as easy? Sorry, like you know, I don't want to be me, but what is me as if that doesn't that's a larger question? It's a big big, weighty question, but I also think you know

I think the internet has also activated are instant gratification, addiction and so in as much as you can get anything you want via the internet instantaneously having people expect like. Why should it be really famous now it's a grand famous snapshot Venus. Another row was now famous people. I should like that. That's a skill is self listen I just I. I decided that in this was completely by accident. Mainly I, u Snapchat, to draw Dixon my fiance cat. That's I can't. I think I want to follow Oh, oh just really quick Katy. Eighty myself, as are yours now going on here, is not here I mean I know I don't have any active right now, but here like this, this is this is undisputed. I've just been drawing on on the cap for the past couple of

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then, like a to be nice, I'm a name is tv. Ok, what is your name and other use and like a picture of like a turn of the Rio summit, was that such was Is it as I like to do with you. You just gotta you to back. The guy was really nice. Give a shit. All good seeing you sitting on that then use a fan. So I was like. I fear, if you don't like a man like I'll, give you some tea, something else that goes sweet yeah, I got my. I got the I've I've since given nervous to my company noticed because, were now attitude is to ask but yeah I got the noticed. Instagram a handful years ago I sent the guy a limited edition, walking dead watch. Here's like I was there and I give you to get the nervous insecurity goes. I saw.

Those sweet watches on your show. Can I offer my dad Nego yeah, so I sent him a walking dead watch and that's how I got the nervous NAFTA. Initially, a thousand, so it's pretty cool did quickly do speech avenues today. I want all I'm I'm honest. I had started taking tutoring lessons. Japan next year, and I am reassured by the way, only five point. Five percent of the population of Japan yet speak English. Only five percent five point: five percent, the population in two thousand, fifty oh wow, so I better learn from Japan ease, and so you could leave Tokyo. You're gonna be tough, took place, but the one thing is that the people there are so nice yet and so thoughtful and if you're lost there take you wherever you are going to truth. Well, I must also mean that the second, by what I get easier, but I also want to be- I also like I, Wanna represent America. Wealth of illegal out of Americans go there

like everyone speaks English and link gave it, maybe we should try to respect other cultures. Really wanna. You know I wanted to take Japanese in college, but it was full rights or in that of taking a tell him he's my mom's families italian, but I always wanted to learn. I always wanted to learn there was more important learning japanese ago to Japan is just Boeing. Boeing Yak has ass a sign of respect, ok, yours, bow lower than them do make eye contact you you had your there. I mean at this point that they know you're a guy Jean right, also like they, just if you like it, he show if you just show gestures of of just just being it's like it's more humility gaps where, like oh, you know, I kind of like ok, you ve entered the room and soon in nice and right now and and in our give your space, but that's ass, really like they did. They already know they see. You're, not gonna know you starts biggie, japanese. They won't stand unless you say I got the or like them like. You know what they are we gonna do it. Do

large Aberdeen, I will learn. I really really really want to learn it. I gotta just because it sir in interest a little bit, started. Setting the thing that I love about it is, it is it I mean this is a compliment. It's very mathematical, it's very logical away that it it's very structured in the way the are women during a really bad, as I agree I think about that when they get mad you're a lawyer, in the way that English, I feel it is very unstructured in terms of all we're talking. You know, snapping, yeah and then shouting and then dont drugs on me there. If you like, you would only be fair because Catherine growing here you know it's just a fun, harmless way to fuck with the cat. The cat doesn't know

doesn't get hurt people it you? Some people go all the poor. Cataloging doesn't know, doesn't that while he was just lying there on the carpet, tens of thousands of people were but you know, I know, is actually making for the cat. No us that's the beauty of, as though there are big for the cat is different. Or is a goal, the cats rule by the caravan? What are you there making fundamental have actually made for you? There actually not make what anyone yeah they're, making primarily for the fact I'm a grown man with a fifteen year olds sense of humor, but which is awesome. Because for years and I love it either auditory, I love it worries everywhere. The rooms love exists. Where were you gonna? Be? Next? Are you so? You must be well. First of all, thank you for producers, the high value man high five on that yeah. That's a high five five, sir I've via. I apologise that those

school hours that was more about. Let's enjoy the journey than the goal, but with the high was some Fun and Yarborough with so great is such a great job and rivalry job with the music in it. You know, as I might, the unseen. I'm watches many horror things as possible, always, and so, when we see something that has a fresh take on things that incitement saturation there's so much. Right and horror? I also when you see someone even feels a little bit differently, like oh, my God, Radio Yarborough did such a great job is vision from the beginning was it was awesome plus, like all cells, music videos before he directive was yeah yeah. She self sick man use is perfect for and then are you giving you guys are gonna. Do another one dearly do another one, I'm not sure, we didn't really get far less time. I met with the team yeah I mean

We just have to be involved from the beginning for on this one you know and and with him and me with care grand and going over the music. I now might do music other movies, but with this is my first time really diving from the beginning. What's your collaborate, favorite favorite thing to do all the things you do? What's your favorite, it's a balance by means music related is bows between finishing a song that did, I feel like will, will affect alot of people mostly touch like people and at the same time, being able to see it happen by playing it out and- and you know, being a part of that experience yeah because like when you actually see

it mostly affect someone that your work is actually touch. Someone, and you see in front of you is that does I think, that's the reason why such a touring, Vietnam and mature monsters, because I love being able to to see that all the time beyond you know it's like that's their gratitude. The most good I gotta find ways of seeing how the art is going on the world. It is it's pretty cool, though, because as a filling his dj you're it it's very similar to the way the internet works of entertainment in terms of

no up a regular bandolier radio play or like a tv show is on tv, but the only way the internet content work that it has to be shared out like people who talk about it. They have to cynical my god, you'll love this. They have to their really. A community really has to form around it right for it to get to the next level and for people to know, and I feel like that, so that so much feel it gets more gratifying. Rather than having a big machine. Just tell people, s thing is good, you do know, people really do to discover their to discover as well yes of having weathers through their friends or through community rather than like getting. The radio down like having like play you five different times like ok, now, all this arm in arm. Of course, I love well I'm up my where my size bigger on the radio, but as is you know that I don't write my son.

For radio ran, and luckily I built a career where I'd never had to? But, of course, when it does this site, but you know that's like one- was epic feelings: they tear song get knowing its king play to someone. How do you, when you produce for other people, are or work with other people? How is that different that, when you're writing for your than when you doing it for yourself? Well, you like I'm so concerned about what the stability brand is is going to represent with my music, so five produce a song for another artist and I'll have to think about.

What about that and their songs were like it's like we're studio. You know, like you, just gonna write what you feel the time and it might not be a sound that you want to represent from your brand sure. So, there's like songs were produced it and I, like you, know what this works for you. This work for a like. You know, heres a list of orders. I think it would work for and if they ve gel with it, then than than is there someone you just basically talking about you know You mean, like your voice, like it's basically your voice, that some things work in your voice in some things, work better and are not like that produce a beat yet. So if I propose a beat that psych okay, this this represents, What do you know right now, my home working on my next album near future? Three, so I have songs that fit that album and have songs adult fitted, but I want that music to go with an artist, so I'd give it to. You know this singer that I think it works well with her voice and

and generally I like to deliver full buys of work. Could I work with Ilona songwriters as well yeah that that help right the vehicles and top lines? On top of of my my melodies or beats You think that the modern day entertainers, giving its giving its required of them to do the kind of thing that you and I do, which is a bunch of different things. Or do you think that's just well have to be that our doesn't have to be because you gotta think there's like artists the sailor. You were you talking about artists in my world that are really really successful. There is a personality. I think, because, like out here, for example, he's an incredible producer, he's gonna be known as one of the best producers of our time.

An evil? Is electric dance guy you're always produces. You know, beat from our world that cross over and pop, and, as you know, you don't see his name flying all over different things. You know not not say that he doesn't do it, but you, like you, see his name, in music. I mean it's not. You know, I'm not normally wowed by figures, but they release of figures like Taylor, Swift, the x amount of and cabin Harris made, sixty six million dollars Oleg what's up we have just music that's so this is a music zealots like, and you know for me, it's never been about how much money can I make doing all these? Are things bug what what I feel inspired or passion about, and now I have a platform which is music to be able to go and sit with. You hang out with you know in this room with but system million dollars is still pretty cool, of course, high cool. But if

but at the same time like that, you know, but twelve dollars is also cool too, but in any case I dont think Calvin hairs now speak form so, like he's producing music to make sixty six. No, no, of course not. He just because I think he like I've- been in his music sense for a long time, Anna guys, just prolific yeah and he's just a hard working musician, songwriter, singer is everything is incredible and he's probably not thinking about the money either, because you can't you can you can't? I mean he couldn't I don't think he'd be able to continue. If you got that in your head, I don't think he'd be able to continue to doesn't have to think about. My doesn't have to think of it. Doesnt have you ever had a thing about it. Is that thinks about the next really nice expensive that he wants to buy? I know that he can do it. I mean. That's like the great things like there's no, like ok I'll, buy just for one sure why not only the flap currently more so by, but

again, you know yeah, that's all fine and good and everything, but it is all about passion and, like I was sort of joking about before you know, the twelve dollars that you made to perform for a handful of people and had to drive flowers. I mean emotionally that probably or rewarding than if someone just You a bunch of money, you don't. I mean like it, because that that Miley money is that money is a tool tat day till they get things and There's people there were had thrown a million dollars in like MIKE Tyson is the scandal that was all gone and he doesn't happier does now that Erasmus is tool to get stuff. You know like stuff that you probably don't you need, and the most amazing things in life are free It is illegal to avert. This was your ahead. What makes you happy the people of this round you that, like you, have to make the right decisions in your life?

the people in surrounding the make you happy you makes you happy satellites are things as nice. A driver Brooks that's of car, but I will hang out people that that, like actually care about me- and I want the best for me- and I care about them- want the best for them, and I want to be creative and do things that are going and mostly touch people yet and that that is power. Why sure, but I'm sure a browser circulars, look who surely Bucharest mood motor. Do you know? I do yes, but I also believe that I think people placed too much emphasis on it and that it doesn't saw it solves some problems, but it does not solve all problems. Yeah. You still need to do the things that you are passionate about, and I just think if, if rather than someone said, while my goal is to make a billion dollars like that's, not what you,

be asking is what's gonna, make me happy because all doubt we, you know, that's you have you have the right of every difficulty and also you know I like dissing dislike play. Devils advocate cause, you know we're both make money for we do. I am, and I may money and I bought myself a crazy. How Vegas suckered. I never thought I could and did it with my own money, and I was proud of that. That's my money that I made and that was sitting in a bank and now I put into something work. I turn this house, my house into my dream home. I have a foam pit in there. I have. I have a super trampoline I have sixteen for deep pool that I can jump into whenever I. Why are you in the signal? The movie big yeah, basically that May. I just you know like vomiting. If, like this is my house, I want to make my dream house yeah. Believe me. I am of course happy to share with, like my my

family or what my future follow. You gotta know. So you do. I know that you do charity worry. Do you really want charity? Work too, of course, and like you know and dummy that that's once again, that's going towards like this platform that we have of influence and and thus We can actually spread you awareness and an information, not just not just raising money. A thing is also important to talk about these things that Well, don't really know about like whatever it is. You know like in my world. You know if you look in the club world and the vessel world people out and the best homes, the lives and and love Dont know about. Like you know the stuff that I'm interested in, like I could be able to kind of bring that demographic over and and baby one percent, the populace of of the Democrats, demographic will have an interest in and helping blood, brain degenerative diseases- or you know stuff that we're doing right now, you're over what are some of the things like what what what sort of charity work is important.

Right now is really about like brain Health and brain research, and I've been like my albums colony on future and thus all based on looking at science and technology. And you know where we're using it to be no better. Our lives may make our more creative or live longer help your lies and and- and I was I was able to bring on scientists and other futurist that are, you know, verse in their feels on the album, and in so doing I wanted to also that's a musical composition of what neon future is. I wanted to to make a companion set interviewing these tourist, talking the scientists and then also raising money towards the research that that these these people are doing on like, for example,

de Gray, who, as an organization called sense and their there. I trying to reverse reversal your degeneration. And and there you know, like that's the researches understanding, why cells break down the overpopulated mutate and you know, do research on that site in reality, the angle being you know we can reverse earlier degeneration we won't age are star organs, won't fail or Catholic, can't, like yourselves, cancer cells level become cancerous roaming or cells, become cancerous, won't become cancers and really interesting. Stuff, like that, that's that you think you know I'm going back to when I was a kid. I ll read comic books because Alice IT obsessed with the science fiction, but the future, and now things are happening, two thousand fifteen that that are fulfilling media and end, and I love reading about that. So

size along one for that. But now it's the eyes like did dates: science ammo doing right now, and technology is exciting and- and I want to, more emphasis on that more awareness on that raise money towards that excellent. Well, this has been an amazing Thank you so much for coming in gives me so follow your passions, people really the flower, rose the rubber, namely the Benningham Flower, the growth in the rubble and also make stuff just make your own stuff yeah make stuff. I think it's the best decree make stuff be creative and you know I am glad that we talked about the idea of being yourself in what is that you know nothing s, questions like who, who are you yeah how'd? You find

that and try things you try things via a lot of things. You know, because a lot of times that one of the one of the great things about art about making art is not so much just to affect other people or to get attention whatever, but so making art tells you a lot about who you are because you don't realize. Sometimes you know a lot of times. Actually, you don't you eyes what you're saying until you make something into spit it out and go away. I guess this is a piece of whom. I didn't realize that until I manifested it into the into the real world right, so thank you for doing that and thank you for letting us on board the hive with you and us, and in high five hive bring her back around and we appreciate that our rights, the We agree to everyone which is our way of saying in your living now. Power enough

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