0:00:0- - Opening
0:01:44 - Guidelines for the Leader and Commander
1:41:40 - Final thoughts and take-aways.
1:42:29 - How to stay on THE PATH.
2:07:02 - Closing Gratitude.
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This is Jacko Podcast number two, fifty five with uncle
and me Jack a willing good evening. I can't believe me and joining us again this day, Burke believing gave getting so we go on with guidelines for the leader and commander, and I think it is
point, I'm not even sure they did. I'm just doing this purely out of my own joy,
of having search for this book for
more than a decade finally have found a copy, and now I'm making everyone else to enjoy it with me, and we covered this book on two hundred and fifty one, two hundred and fifty two two hundred and fifty three two hundred and fifty four but there's a reason. There's a reason to dig through the past, to our roots, to my
the route from this book from a man that served her. What were one world war to Korea, General Preuss Court Bruce Clark who then
overlap that servicing career with Colonel David Hack worth who served in Korea and in Vietnam and who wrote the book about face these the lessons I learned
Then. I tried to pass on and the dna
so clear it so clear to read this book and see that DNA to find the roots of knowledge and in knowing it we learn more and that's the goal. The goal is to learn and improve and get better so guidelines for the leader and commander by general. Bruce
Clark here we go back to the book this next section and I'll be honest with you. The last section.
I liked it over some lessons, did genus and take away for sure this one
started getting this one. I had a good time with so
and I was a little worried at first because the last
Second, we are talking about when we talk about training the individual soldier which to me is like ok, you know that's what we're doing we're talking about the individual soldier. I thought that might have been a little bit of a peek a little bit of a peak where I started
like this it. But then I got to this section: Jap return, which called training the unit, and I started Saint Paul K, which makes sense right, which makes sense
because certainly there's gonna be parallels. When you talk about training, individual soldiers born, you start talking about training teams and training units. This is where things really start to come to light from leadership perspective,
imports of unit training, the army's investment in the soldier pays off only when the union's combat ready, proper
training, develops, combat red units by welding skills, skilled individuals in the teams and combining teams into effective platoon companies and combined armed forces. It is mine,
purpose in this chapter, to highlight the application of principles and techniques that will contribute to improving a units, combat readiness in less time at less cost, thus enabling the army
to realize full measure from its investment in the soldier and his unit. So there you are. This is about training, vat, teen, get
them to work together. Theme of unit combat readiness. It has all
and been said that battles are fought by squads and tunes and one by-
team work of small units supported by fire.
combat powers inflicted on the enemy by fire and movement
legal cover, move, welcome, it's been three. It's been three paragraphs, we're talking about cover move. This is why snarking fired up
the purpose of movement, is to get
fire in the most advantageous position to destroy the enemy. That's good!
Little thing, the Frank about bats
why we cover move
cover move to close within store the enemy to get in an advantageous position to destroy the enemy. That's why we covered move one.
Remember, however, that gasoline ammunition and other vital supplies are needed, sustain tat, cooperations accord
We emphasis on small, get a training should habitually stress teamwork, to the point that tactical
the commission is accomplished with the same precision as dismounted drill.
That delivery of effective fire is as automatic, has gone drill and that supply
to the tat grew unit is as well
sponsor in battle as it is in garrison.
These battlefield reflections vividly point out the basic
theme of small units, combat readiness no
small unit, train
should be undertaken in a vacuum why
he pointing this out. He's parties outcome in the military is very easy to.
silo yourself, it's very easy to say I want my-
due to be good sovereign country magnitude, or I want my company b goods I'm going to try my company
returning to be good, such global trade, my battalion over Europe in a vacuum and if you're doing that, you're wrong.
In any organization, if you're,
sales person and you're not training alongside the operations, people to make sure that you know,
communicate to them what you want
they know how to Cuban communicate you what they can deliver.
what about the I t group. Do they understand how to handle the threshold of emails that you can be getting when you offers new product? Is all these things that need to you need to work together
sometimes because, like internal competition is well like
but wait. That's why we wouldn't train together year, mainly or maybe, but I think it's I think it's just
the straight up silos, you know
saint, just like the straight up like hey this is my platoon. I'm gonna take your map to this my division and take your my divorce. Why department, Madeira, my department fully do not thinking about necessarily the other guys or you're. Just like a leave me alone. Am I
think it. I think it could be either a real like negative attitude, but it could also be distant
a positive attitude, that's ok, arbitrary, Michael to Russia that we focus on four Yemen train monitored. Opportune commander between my platoon, we're gonna be ready, here's the problem! You can be ready, but if you can
for fire correctly. It doesn't matter if you ve, never coordinated with a cure f before it doesn't matter without you
life is needed, you don't know what you're doing.
and it happens a business to hey. You know,
we're we're like. I
where the sales team, we don't care, I'm not gonna
to train the D. The customer
satisfaction group. I don't need to train with them. That's not my deal right. I don't care
What happens when we're know? Once I sell the product, I don't care. What happens? Oh really, you
should care what happens, because if the client call
customer satisfaction. It looks for a solution to a problem that they ve got as their implementing the thing that you just saw them and the solution is in their guess what
not getting good reviews in you're, not only more product. That company is the name customer satisfaction Department
yeah yeah he's called that our suppose they call client and implementation theres. Many many organisations that are set up in such a way that there's someone that sells the product,
and then there's someone that helps them implement the product and that's customer service could be cut,
Some are satisfactory clients, as factionalism other names were David. You d, they ready clamor service tech support. Yes, stuff, like that
export. That's a good one tech support. You might think,
of, like that's a broad based like hey. I've had
computer yea two years, and now I'm working words are onto
About companies where you buy
a new system of software for Europe
organization, like a solar panel,.
I got home by solar panel for you well
let's say let's say you did that maybe by solar panels, for your roof right in
in great you, the salesman you sound to me
what you're done when you're done. So me, my solar panels, you're on trying to sell the next export pair. So when I call
because the installation I'm having a hard time with. I call
customer satisfaction, its Dave Dave picks up the phone hey. I just ordered this thing
and now he says well, how many you know- and I,
look we're having trouble installing this. It doesn't fit on my roof right and you say: okay. Well, how many panels did you get
and what size or day and all.
sudden? He realizes that he needs to give you feedback that listen
the roof is. This angle fits a different way and so now
you, can sell the product better and that will keep people more. So
right, you can also do a follow up called mean, say: hey, hey, sir.
I'm really sorry when I measured roof. I thought it was this angle and so on.
I told you this thing: here's what we're gonna do reaction actually come out pick up three, the pain
but you're not gonna need anymore and I'm gonna. You know,
to give you a ten percent rebate
and were also setting it installer out there to give you a hand at home right now,
Taking care of we're all happy now guess what I'm doing when somebody asked me how you got solar panels will company, and I so
echoes solar panels is
company yeah, you know it was a little rough, but they got everything. Take care of. You should definitely call you see what I'm going with us fully and that we are tabling just took me down the rabbit whole solar installation of good, meaning that the best example, but you D did good. I'm over here, run with the area here to make it happen, rigour, but yet they you, don't really think about that when your work, you know where you you kind of want to be the best worker in company sure you know,
but the customer, like experience, is kind of the whole deal. You know you know how I like men when you leave your review, your like great product, bad customer service, and that can be like well that sucks cuz. I
need some customer service gonna think so it's kind of a downer in oh, yes, we're not thinking everything's in a work perfect, every single time right, not necessarily
What I'm saying like you know you have these elements of a product
our that are all too the custom
where it's like. It's all the same thing, I'm lucky
go to this person just for one thing
I'm gonna go, I mean as far as one quality of their their product, they're gonna.
they'll get turned off by other departments. So if you work there for
just focus on yours by that affects you, that's what General Carr can save you
after interact with other people inside your organization and if you're not doing that, you're wrong.
Fast forward, a little training philosophy, the basic debate:
philosophy. Successful training is that of obtaining superior results with average personnel God. I love that
The reason for training is to take average people and make an exceptional,
Superior results, a unit to be
really outstanding should be excellent in all undertakings and activities. Commanders
No one and understand that keep the capabilities and limitations of personnel and set a high and exacting standards of capabilities of the high
ability of a groups over you
its personnel? This tends to give the low ability grouping
hopeless feeling because of having to compete against stared. With
they cannot attain. A
it satisfactory in all things is better than one outstanding in some excellent
in others.
On Saturday factory. In a few, that's a good thing to think about
you know, it's better to be good at about
A good at everything then outstanding it there
one thing: ok at some other things and on sat in final figs next section,
fast forward. A little bit emphasise: fundamentals, the basic difference between well trained unit and one that is not well trained, is found in the attack,
paid to the fundamentals of marksmanship chemical by law,
SK on radiological warfare. Communications maintenance
ministration in all other arts and skills that contribute to making the unit combat ready in the shower.
as possible time,
train soldiers. The only foundation upon which effective combat ready units can be built when the soldier fails to demonstrate proficiency in individual skills. The army
investment is wasted and combat readiness of the unit is diminished.
Each commander should approach, has problems of combat readiness with a sense of war, time urgency there
There is no magic formula
no sweat list solution to achieving a high state of combat readiness and a unit applicant
the fundamentals enumerated below, however, will help so that by the way,
sweat this solution. You ve heard that before right, a closer us- that's that's, that's hack, well hack, took that actual phrased from
and I was I had tried to find it about face and foresight about faces, eight hundred thirty six pages.
Oh, I know, what's in here somewhere after of I've done it on the progress of talk,
the sweat the solution, there is no
what the solution we ve taught? The cover
out of the park, as you may have wondered where he got irish study made it up right. Of course, we finally made it up.
If you ever make me say it may be thought I made it up, I didn't make it up, neither did hack there, you go
I believe, the sources General Clark Lucian. That's like those that stuck with me
for a long time still is with me really could swear
part of it is yes, because I had to admit to myself brother to me a lot of the time, I'm looking for that's where it really is leaking girl. Like you know, the kind were the other day.
ECHO Charles go deep standby. Yet some
So I'm sitting on the couch in big shocker,
they have been so there.
remote control by the kind where you know like the remote control for the cable and then for the volume there two different locations right. So I got the one for the cable, but the volume one is
the more you mom is somewhere
Suddenly, the gun you look here and has to be close to you right does not like it's either in the next room or something
No, it doesn't have it's not gonna go far it, but it's around here somewhere right. This is what we do.
foreign duck.
Solution there,
so you can you gonna, look around your little vicinity or whatever I'm not getting up, though, from already sitting down down way, caused me to sweat a little bit, but
whatever some looking around and I
turn around and we have this ledge like behind the couch there. You know them ledge there and I look in its behind me
but it's kind thin. This weird spot where I can't like I gotta stand up just ass. If I was stood up
when I first saw it broke. I would add: the remote control enjoyed some television at this point, but I'm like China
toward my body like all we're, because we're is almost like us putting more effort into my sweat list solution, then ACT saw entered, you would have been expended if I went for the sweat solution, the real one- and I put it to stand up for a second
and but I'm saying, ok boy, do you
I thought the point,
Braun talking about hack hardware, General Clark deserved a world war were to Korea, or was it now more soldier she couldn't get? You know I could
what I'm saying is
Sometimes
us. The people, sometimes we put so much effort into looking for a sweat le solution, seems
like as a philosophy euro and how gender
Clark is saying subsequently hack were subsequently
Jack, O. What they're saying stop looking for the sweat listless solution? Stop like straight register. Do the works cannot get through mobile
There's gonna be a whatever this may be that as it may be, that the apex of ECHO Charles examples of do think, there's a lot of those like when you're vacuum. In any see the little thing it does want to get sucked out by the vacuum. Men, like you just been
pick it up. You should do to do like kick you like. Kick it didn't get it loser
understand. These lessons are cut everywhere. Who keeping
all right, man, Jack
Cargo would agree at the he definitely worth when
the on the line, this of course fighting the Nazis or fighting the communists
these guys. Anyone have remote control
what
the alchemist revelry. I just don't understand well.
all right so back.
Book here
talking about the things that you can you can do to keep a unit trained up number ones, do essential things. First, there's not enough time.
For the commander to do everything each commendable
determine wisely what is essential and assign responsibilities for accomplishment. He should spend
the remaining time on near essentials. This is especially
of training, not essential, should not take up required time required for sentinels what we call that we cannot prioritize next year. Next thing: do things right the first
The commander should not consider his unit ready for battle until it can carry out a plan. Well, the first time too often commanders holders rehearsals of things their unit should be able to do well without rehearsal. I, like
because this is a little bit. You know
there's this in the aims about use. Do one foot one? Third planning one third gear prevalent:
Herb we put all this emphasis in the rehearsal, which is awesome. I one percent believe that, but you should think that you shouldn't have to rehearse right and that's what he said. Sums age did no
two thousand and some standard operating, because that you should know look we can rehearsal? Yes, we are, but you should know
shouldn't need. You should hear her some you shouldn't have to rehearse, but you should rehearse errors. Everything.
This practice causes officers and men expecting a dry run or two to paid little attention to initial instructions and to make inadequate preparations. There will be no dry runs in combat. It is good to issue adequate instructions and hold officers, and men
That's the first time that something that I wish. I would a learned.
Imagine saying I look like look. I'm gonna tell you guys this one time there were to execute Noah Herschels, just to see justice.
Is to get people in the mindset of paying attention
and figure out where you're directions and you're planning
the shortfall because, if
can't say: ok, Dave, here's! What we're gonna do do you're go in this building up to go in this building you to take your squad. You can move to hear you moved there. Does everyone understand all right, we're gonna go! Do it right now
training exercise with no rehearsals there
will show us the shore.
falls of our planning in our communication
It will also show the team shortfalls and when they don't know what,
to do? They should raise your hands, a hey boss, that does it make sense to me right now hold on a second. Let me here
Again, I don't understand that part.
practice more than one thing at a time. Ok, wait! A second. Are we going against prioritize next year? Does that what's happening no actually
whenever I see a unit practising only one thing at a time, I am reminded of the hill
paper my son brought home one day. The grid,
Reconstruction in spelling were not good. This is fair
poor English, I told him, but daddy said I was only
tested in history.
Sound training requires that many subjects be skilfully integrating taught concurrently. This is
excellent time sabre in training and he
through this can any
what are you saying is? Look you can't do multiple things at the same time
You know prioritizing execute when you got more problems and you can try
solve them all the same time. That doesn't mean
that you're gonna say hold on a second. We,
need to move towards the target.
But we also need to make communications. We can all you wanted. A time no
I think that you have to do can currently, in that case,
include k, we ve gotta, move wounded people and we ve
to fight a firefight
oh me ever practice, just getting your fire
and just moving people. How do we know how to do both those things at the same time which you may have to do so? Do you have to prioritize
execute. Yes, you do, but guess what you also have to learn, how to do things concurrently,
as a paper, integration and training schedule is not efficient, so just like tat
Can about it? I will you if we have to do move a wounded guy, well worn a firefly. Well then, we'll just do this x Y see no, you have to try which has come
trajectory to rehearsals right, don't don't don't do rehearsals? Yes, do rehearsals,
commander should take every opportunity to exploit the effects of integrated training. It is the key to accelerate intensified unit, combat training, ineffective, increasing the amount of available training time good, eliminate the habit
eliminate the administrative habit and training. I am convinced that all commander should take maximum advantage of field training time to develop correct tactical practices procedures. We talked about that one
time, practice dispersion, concealment and can of camouflage the penalty for bad habits and passive measures in air defence warrants special mention
the day when american soldier could be lax about dispersion.
Seulement and camouflage is in the past. So a kid
the supply to everyday life and business train, how you fight train. How are you
I know the status of men in equipment cieca
check up on those that are absentee from training practice. Maintenance in the field practices
little sections about these each one of these practice sound
troop leading procedures. The subject of troop leading procedures and allied techniques requires increased emphasis on tactical exercises. Fundamental
founded field manuals and related publications are worthy of stress sound
command procedures, diligently practised in all field training will form
habits in the unit commander form the checklist habit.
meticulous planning and reconnaissance are required to make sure that every minute in the field will be expended profitably check this further
purpose are unnecessary command and staff to just as they are for supervising and testing the conduct of training. What are you up? I got the same thing. I keep
but every time I hear what he has to say, he keeps repeating fundamental, sound, realistic fundamentals. These are the fundamental to the basic things at all
the basic things associated with our job and
good at those things and train
a realistic scenario. There's a lot. Obviously, Gerald Park is talking about war,
he's recounting his experience as war. I hear this. I hear what he sang is collecting into war, but the
the application of these things, as I keep hearing into my head hearing what you're saying and thinking about the things I'm thinking about now, if you
in the private sector, anyway,
private sector, unless you
happened to be in one of the rare sectors: that's not competitive and there are almost none
if you are in the, if you were in the american capitalist private sector, you are at war, your competitors
dont want to share space with you. Do they want to cooperate with you too, to work in
we need this, they want to run you over. They want to take all of your clients, Audrey Market Share and Oliver product. They want to take all that from you,
and the way you are successful is the exact same things. Your people have to be trained on the fundamentals and every
That applies to them, and the only way to do that is to find a way to train them. Realistically that
it's what they're going to deal with in the real world in their real world. It's
kind of crazy. How.
Well, it seems difficult to make the connection to his world
the connection, is so straightforward to anyone.
The European Union
roads to this subject before and I'm sure there's gotta be some kind of scientific or psychological experimental whatever, but the the
improvement of your response from
a time when you don't know, what's going to happen and you haven't practiced it to a time
You do know. What's gonna happen, you have practised, it is exponential,
It is absolutely exponential. We see this all the time it s not front. When we role play with people, we put someone roleplaying scenario.
and they say we know I've gotta go talk to this group.
to my support leader? Who's got a giant ego.
ok, Roland they're, just talked him see how that goes. You eat
gotta be a disaster, so you role play and guess what the first time you role play its a disaster. The second time
ten times better either.
Time its fifteen times better than the fourth time at seventeen times better, but that first look the first look that you get
when you know a little bit of what to expect man, you are just your ear.
Exponentially more prepared for
that situation and, as we know,
when you and leadership position, you're going to roll into a meeting where you ve
deliver some bad news to troops. You know what they're gonna say. You know there's eight
spots is you're gonna, get why
think. Through those things,
Why not think through those thinks you're going to talk to a girl,
that you disappointed you ve, let down you ve made a mistake. You,
no they're gonna have one of six different reactions. Why not?
work through those. Why not have a contingency plan for each one of those six thinks this will take you four minutes to deal
thank you, and I four minutes to role play me. It'll, take us five. Ten
Stu role play the six different responses. When I wrote to you- and I say, hey Dave, listen. I know we promised you this product on this date.
We ran into some hiccups years
mistakes that I made here's what
try due to resolve it, you're only
to be able to say so many different things back to me.
depending on how I respond. I could either sandwich that relationship or I could destroy it,
so, why would we not trained to be prepared for this? There's no reason is no excuse, for it doesn't take
to train for that's adjuration takes ten minutes it does it takes ten minutes.
If your own brain is the only place where you,
consider the potential outcomes of that conversation. You are going to miss so many things. If I get one other person sit across for me to answer,
in any way that they want.
How am I to interact with them?
actually now Amy
veal, the. Why
expect that I didn't see that come and I dont know what to say here.
You also have another person to just
racked with you in a way that helps you anticipate
a real response that you
consider, if you
in your own brain
which is a vacuum because
You convince yourself as well. This is can be. The heart of a conversation was going to say this he's to say that everything's gonna be fine.
The role, play sneers, we do to just to add one more thing to that when we
you re play. It usually comes right after we ve done
the initial training we're
explain it he's, and he talked about this. That is that its paper train
hey. This is what we're going to do and it makes sense. We think we understand it
in our heads. It resonates and we can explain these.
The goals and we say: ok, let's roll model is the first room rope way. The first rule play
is always a disaster, even when we just talked about it, because on paper isn't enough, it's not enough, and three role plays later five minutes later they have gone from here to weigh up here.
Come in, they can actually go. Have that conversation in real life in real time with a real person. I need to talk to that five minutes of live real
mystic fundamental training is the difference.
Springs up another topic, so I said: hey look this this individuals, only a half six different responses, right, there's a seventh
and the seventh is one that you didn't predict you didn't understand it you didn't think could come and guess what
you can actually train your response for the thing that you just came back came completely out of left field, and it might be as simple as when Dave
if Dave says something to me that I had no anticipation and it doesn't make any sense to me. What am I gonna? Do you want me to do? I want to say
If Dave says to me, well
Tell you what now? What do we want our money back? I want someone to take you guys to court
Let me say that our relationship was not bad and ice.
My response to him:
If I don't know what else to say, I'm going to say ominously Dave, you know what I need to think about this for a minute. Let me.
Think about what you're saying, because I want to make sure I understand that right there
right. There is a response and if it is to prepare for it, here's a twenty one. When we used to be back in the day in the games, when you go to get your seal trident, you hadn't, you shoot you
got on with bud. You went to a team, you went through more training and then you are on probation for six months and then you had to go do and
board for all the different departments, and you
go and programme the radios and break down the weapons and build them away,
Charges and weren't you don't cha
how to put on a parachute rig and set up a diver Yoda. Do all these things answer all these questions
one of the things that you learned was, or you better have learned, was way
in some want to ask you a question that you don't know you better, have a response for end the responses you know me
the chief I'm not,
We sure of the answer that question, but I know that it is in the dive manual that I can find down and dive locker. That's great.
That's egress, responsive them ass. She says I
fair enough. We'll go you better, get you better start learned a little but deeper, but if you go ah, is it
Thirty feet for thirty minutes ya: it's not thirty feet. For thirty minutes you try,
BS, the master chief and you're gonna end
get your ass kicked so
What you do is you and we did this. We role played the up that the oral board
me and my friends that it showed up at seal team one and we've gone through the training and now we're getting ready for. I don't believe we crossed each other in those oral boards and one of the things that we figured out was which we got. You know some of the senior guys today. Listen, if you don't know the answer, it's okay you're the response
I bought rehearsing that and be ready for it is in
we better than
no rehearsal go in their blind and get get smacked upside? The head was something you didn't expect that you will talk yourself into that. You ve got it covered. If you're doing this
you'll tell you. This is a and b that hard. I got discovered
you go in there, solo you're, gonna get crushed. Is you just you? Don't have that? Are the person that to put unifying awhile hang on a second
training- is important
breaks down here,
organization for unit training, training plans, comprehend
simple and workable plans are indispensable and should be formulated with consideration of the following four essentials.
Publish training goals. That's number. One number
to continuous evaluation. This,
process must go on throughout
training cycle and as an integral part of it
only by continuous evaluation can deficiencies be discovered early enough to make immediate correction possible number three testing
Closely related to evaluation is the more formal testing that is good
then to an individual or unit at the conclusion of a phase of training or block of instruction.
It's here that we determine whether our training goals have been met. Number four remedial training
I must emphasise here the value remedial or make up training once a vat once evaluation and testing have identified. The areas of deficient
Remedial training must be used to correct that. It should be an integral part of every training schedule of
where's. The instruction will be designed to overcome specific weaknesses that have been exposed by the testing programme and will have to be keen to despair
if it needs a new unit, it is essential, however, that remedial training be regularly scheduled. That makes sense
so does the four things established: training goals, continuous evaluation, testing and remedial training. What would that was there
a test whether tests at each phase of top gun, as you are going through the train again obsolete or what was it
example. The test,
the most common test that we give is, if we want to make sure the students understood the mechanics of a system, so
Powell missile system work how the targeting system work. Had the radar system work you up that we wanted to make sure they understood the mechanics of it.
before they use it in. In practical terms,
it probably isn't too much different than than your experience of understanding how the radio's worked before you re using them in the field. Right, you have to understand. H
propagation. Yet you did you have to understand the eye atmosphere you
you actually did, because what would happen is you're gonna find yourself in a position, and this is me
I don't know I was in that position is, if you're in a particular
job particular place and talking to a particular other person,
some radios, you know better than other radios. This is, and you might need to know hey. You know what we're like in them
she's here and there in the in the wilderness in the jungle. This way
doesn't work. You doesn't penetrate. Who is this thing so
There's a million different examples of that. If you
get that out of order, and you just weren't you, you learn how to manoeuvre the system like. I might my cursor moves at the here. I move my my cursor on the display here and you don't actually know what's happening to the mechanics behind that.
Start making mistakes inside in specific settings,
oh at work here, so a must work everywhere. I know it. Doesn't
everywhere this
environment is optimize here, this environment, it doesn't work at all
well, you know, is the mechanics and now it's happening minded you actually can apply when it matters. The most
Tat made me think of the book leaders
strategy and tactics by me,
because I say that exactly big when I'm talking, I compare I compare early
to a worker and talk about the fact that
You know when you're a leader, you gotta, know the different tools, but then you got it
did you're at what work. You got another different tools and then you got no the different types of wood.
and then you gotta know how to apply those different type, those different tools to different types of wood, and then you go to realise that even each individual piece of wood, a p,
A is super softer piece of oak is too. Perhaps you gotta use those tools differently with those
different types of wood and then,
On top of that each intervene
you will piece of pine is different, it has not. It has a rift, it has caught it as a split, and you cannot deal with that. So you got
understand the principles of the tools. I made
regularly plagiarize the health check
it talks about assignment of administrative tasks. He talks about when a unit is under strength reduced.
Frank's must be offset by more efficient utilised?
the main equipment. I gotta ask this question today by a client yeah, but you know we don't we don't. We need more people, guess what everybody everybody needs more people, we
visited my a senior ranking officer seal teams when we can remedy and laid waste
the story. The the
great great officer, the huge
supporter says, hate you
whilst you need out here, is really
not you need, and I said I need to more tasks units.
For Mexico like we be, we had enough missions to
everybody busy
but guess what we don't get anybody we you know
that's the way it works.
Exit. Next section inject realism, the expense
minced commander knows that soldiers doing combat exactly what they have been taught and have practised in training there
or each training situation and problem must be as valid and real
stick as possible with on real or artificial aspects eliminated
Training must reflect as many of the conditions scenes noises in situations of the battlefield as ingenuity can conceive and safety rules will per minute.
and I remember I remain
I put on we be doing when I got back from my last
when we got back from body, I took over training
a few months into that when you,
put on your nods at night, you would you
It is well be in Iraq. Might as well have been Iraq. We had. We had the speed,
is playing God battles and and called a prayer we had tyres burning. We had people dressed up like a local iraqi citizens. Walkin around it was
Freaking awesome, freakin, awesome, that's what you're supposed to do.
Damn. I remember the first time we are related to the moon lob than it was early in the morning of the day it was. It was actually when the blue Blue happened in extreme ownership old. We were rolling in there. I remember Rowan and, unlike their tyres burning in the streets and
Yeah, like oh cake, is what does that do that screws up your nods and luckily the sun was coming up, but it was still dark outside, but I'm thinking these these mujahideen fighters know what they're doing these guys know what they're doing their stand in gas
so there- it messes up your night vision. We understand these burning fires and then than the sun comes up, will now be just
black suit smoke everywhere, and you you can gearing damn
he? U that when I got back at us running training right now, industry, where burden direst your night vision is gonna, be all jacked up and when you're done, with the nightmares being all jacked up and the sun comes up, guess what can be black smoke everywhere,
one of the best ways to emphasise. Realist. Realism is to assess personnel casualties for improper use of cover or
in the case of night exercises, vehicles can be knocked out for on authorizes the night. What does that mean? You put your get people doubt this is
trade debt instructions. I might as well have written this for trade debt.
To use this
exactly what we did. Oh you're,
not say to my cover cool you're, dead
oh you're, gonna move out cross an open street without any cover fire Roger that your dad you're down. If now, let's get this thing figured out,
by the way your body must come help you immediately without putting outspread of our co, he's dead to live,
rock and all who wants to figure. This out, who wants to put the cover,
in cover move, did your literally, like Rick
Wrote that thing down fundamental sound and realistic: ok, you're, not applying fundamentals, you're good, oh you're tactics- are sound, cool he's gone now. What do you mean? I should have it.
After I should literally just be market. How many times he and you are referring back to the real is an that's required and the bees
three of that, especially when you have experiences it completely.
It's way that ammunition of visual
ever happened or
This is unrealistic them the these
the unwinnable scenarios we go? This would never happen. A really cool. This never happened, watch this and
the easier? The training is, the more acclimated people get two things being easy and the,
or unwilling. They are to believe how difficult they can be.
Your training realistic, how many times have you told me and everybody the story of sets? First fire and the guys like wow? How,
when firefights have you been in? You must be any side. It was my first one thousand
first, one that comes from fundamental, sound, realistic training and putting it gotta
national, I might not be a red. I dont know what to say: I can we create this area. I don't exactly how it can play out, but I do know what is going to be
You understand how this can reveal itself and the only.
Prepare, for that is fundamental, sound, realistic, draining over and over and over again,
Emphasis on night training, self sufficiency,
Confidence are key factors in developing a units capability for night operation,
and this was, as you know,
I can spend a bunch of time on this because now we've got night vision, but what is more important when we talk about I'll talk about night vision, vs night, not night vision, one of them talking about it.
put your troops into hard training situations, that's what you need to do. Put your troops into them.
difficult situations because, when you're used to fighting at night Eve of Pre night vision, if you used to fighting it
number one, yes, you get used to it, number to fighting to the day becomes easy it. It makes
fighting the day become easy, and it also gives you a bit
to advantage. If it just so happens that your competition is it willing to put in the
training at night, good you're gonna dominate
the same thing here, inclement weather, whether I gotta read this one though it's twenty,
adverse weather will inevitably be encountered in combat will give rise to problems that can best be solved by experience. It will have an impact on mobility, on maintenance of vehicle and equipment.
on observation on the availability of tat, clear support and, in fact, will hinder tat cooperation in every conceivable way. Adverse
other conditions can be turned into an asset during battled. However, both there you got so we're already look bad weather, good.
commander should take every advantage of training under such conditions. Troops who have mass
the problems of operating effectively in spite of the weather can turn low visibility. Extreme hot heat, bite,
cold or heavy rain into tat. Go advantage against an enemy not so well adapted to these adverse conditions. So
everything you just said haven't needs this. The solution of rainy day schedule is to put on the raincoat and take full advantage. The adverse conditions for profitable few
training and experience totally legit. You know it's fun in the in the teams when there's giant waves like when a massive storm
comes and there's massive, just destroyer waves, it's like time to go out and do serve passage with Zodiac and just get it
Let me do that so far as they do that with
students out of the waves. Are freakin just giant go, get your boats, you're gonna, do serve passenger sometimes gets gears trim.
seems it was hey rig up the zodiac where to go, get some experience in the stuff, that's which absolutely you have to do. If you're in the teams
There's big waving in corn, Otto or Virgin
beach and you're not getting jacked up to cook
you're wrong, get your potu together, I'd get about their get after it,
Cross training for flexibility. Cross training is vital to any organization. When you're personnel are trained in several jobs, you have achieved depth and capability that may well spent.
The difference between success and failure and combat, of course,
Needless switching of personnel from one job to another is harmful, so cross train, but that doesn't mean you switch completely train
no one duties other their primary Emma last, however, will increase your peacetime efficiency at subsequent combat effectiveness. It will also make the individually more valuable asset to the army increases.
and self confidence and may well help him qualify for promotion a little time spent cross training will
amply are rewarded in the increased overall effectiveness of union. Every will benefit not the least you is. The commanders throws that in their everyone, size, gallantly south
every once in a while. We hear it.
Recent driving. This got to do forty five years in the army. I reckon, but he likes that take care of the troops of so little Benny will side Benny for the man.
Training chain of command, a good organisation, always has a smoothly functioning chain of command. A sound training programme, properly supervised, can be the primary means of developing the proper functioning of the chain of command, which also sent
combat a good commander, will guide the development of his unit to ensure that subordinate commander
retain and used.
authority and responsibility in any unit the knock
nor offshore plays a leading role that,
from my managers he must be carefully, instructed, give responsibility and then held accountable. I frequently find squad
leaders ignoring their team leaders by issue
mortars, giving fire commands and taking other actions directly with the individual members of the slots,
Even worse, I found responsible officers who were condoning these mistakes: the sky,
should use his team leaders to exercise control over the squad at all times.
Andrew should supervise assault battle
One squad exercise to ensure that squad these understand and apply the principle of exercising commander
over the rifle squad through designated team leaders, so don't jump through the chain of command. Let your support
It does lead.
Self sufficiency, in confidence, confidence to fight semi
Dependent Lee under conditions of decentralized control is developed by training exercises current com.
Types of warfare, visualizing, greater dispersion on the battlefield, so we're more spread out.
Take the necessity for units to acquire self confidence and self sufficiency. These aspects can be
in most tact exercises. Exercising can be furthered through realistic use of active agree
Sir forces,
course on force, training.
That's what we want to do: Ranger Tie
operations, also it confidence and show the need for self sufficiency when out of physical contact with friendly forces
or beyond the range of mutual fire support. So
covering in mooning moving anymore,
isolated unit becomes a problem
in our training commander should recognise the plight of the isolated unit.
By stimulating it, but by actual-
demonstrating it when the small unit is confronted with an isolated mission, confidence
and always be instilled by ensuring that procedures are established for maintaining communications for rolling to its support, if required,.
training should be aimed at developing integrated procedures. For the
point of Army Aviation and AIR Force troop carriage movements for resupply medical
written. So we have to learn to work independent,
but we always have to be able to support each other,
we're alone out on the battlefield. Ouida, you mean there's a balance there,
pilots. There is low.
I gotta be
cover move, there's another doctrinal term that I love a supporting distance
I'm not allowed to be further away from Dave if they, if I can't
an Dave's position or cover-
four Dave, because he's out of the range of my weapon systems is too far away.
perfect example of the cross training. Talking about, I could be an average raiment Dwight
to be an expert on indirect fires. No
Don't need, not a field trip every little, but you don't need to know how
I think, can shoot were because a bike,
too far away from that supporting element, and I go well the reason I got
You far away, as I didn't know how mortars worked call the outcome is your team gets annihilated. So do I need to know
every single thing that the mortar people commander knows. No, you, don't
But you gotta know a little bit. You gotta know how you were here, interact together, and so even
I of cross. Training is, if you don't have a sort of a functional understanding inside your company use the example before of the sales people.
The customer? Satisfaction, people
if you're a sales lead
and the only metric you measure for success is how much you sell and
realize that, in the return department, that number is the same you're losing your lose?
because you there's a peace that Europe did. You have to know everything. They know you don't and action
Don't have time to do everything you know
you gotta know enough, yet I've enough
understanding. What's going on there to measure the success
entire organization to include your team, and that requires a little bit across training, and that is a perfect example,
of how come you need to know something about everybody?
Small unit tact who exercises tat works should be as well people
it is training tests as often as possible to tackle situation for field exercise should be laid in the framework of an echelon one or two levels higher than the participating unit. This is desirable to bring into play the necessary intelligence supply evacuation in similar roles of supporting forces that have a bearing on the specific tat cooperation. Don't go
use the squad leader. However, by giving him
everything that was in
italian in company commanders orders. That's it interesting little point to bring up
is that while there saying that you need to test the subordinate unity or subordinate leadership in you, can't just
This is true. This you'll teams. I can't test myself.
If I were lying on me as the petition leader to test my platoon. It's very difficult to do that. Look and can help
there's some great between leaders. That will be able to do that, but there is potential
that will then pass every test for some reason with flying colours, cause they're not really being tested. So it's good way.
You are utilizing the chain of command and some of that some of the elements above to test the
whence below. So that's that makes sense
and he always emphasised all exercise should be conducted under simulated combat conditions. I think we ve covered that one enough. This
limitations on our capabilities to conduct field exercises in combined arms training, I am convinced that commanders can always devise ways and means of achieving essential training objectives. I'll give you example that we
we want to have closer
support in our
urban environment for training we'd. Why
have uneasy
one hundred and thirty overhead we'd want to have f. Eighteen overhead, we want to have a marine Corps fighter Squadron ready to come and drop bombs for us that doesn't always have
In fact, it's very rare that we would get those live assets
So what would we do? We would either bring a pilot or we bring a J tack. A personnel is qualified to call and we
put them upon the buildings in our mouths solely and give them a radio and look
he's at almost the same back
you got a guy that understands how pilots talk any imitates, a pilot talking on the radio and then we would
we're up simulated explosions to go off when they dropped the nominal right spot. We would bow
sweet blow something up and they get that they'd get that
satisfaction. In fact, there was a company we were using that had little model airplanes, they were actually
a mile airplanes, but the model
plans would fly over
explosions would happen. We kind of with the distance to
the training, realistic, launch these efforts. Eighteen that would come down and
if the city and explosions would go off and pretty good, but that's a great way to do it, and what does it cost for me to do
the radio to what my J Tax and stick state on a building it cost zero dollars. Zero.
its castigated F eighteen. To give me
where I guess section of F eighteen to give a few hours a sport, because what
a hundred thousand dollars how much damage-
its fuel, do you burn benefiting in our ten thousand pounds? Yes, check back
so there's always ways figure ways out.
Training exercise should be concluded with a critique to provide the basis for reviewing the action into indicate areas requiring additional, requiring additional training emphasis boom debrief. Yes, we have to do that.
the use of live ammunition is not authorize. Wind! Sorry, when the use of live live ammunition is not authorized or practical or when it's you
violet safety requirements. Maximum utilization should be made,
various simulators bomb again. I
we could have written that you are willing to set simulators. Can
duplicate. The sound of artillery machine, Gunsmoke, fresh and most other
facts associated with the noise and conditions of the battlefield, including just tyres burning.
habitual use of aggressor in the field
exercises its design,
report to develop interest in real real as the training value to the unit functioning in an aggressor role should not be
we're locked the adherence to establish technical principles and techniques by the aggressor forces will aid the friendly force informing sound, tackle
Habits: this is why we weep seal teams picked up
so much emphasis on force on forced training using simulation or these. These high speed laser tax systems that we had. This is why it s, basically, all
guys did a top gun right is a hundred percent. Aggressor
is an aggressor. What do you find of sixteen yeah? How
does it take you to defiance of sixteen not long couple months,
if that you know that that power
It is not that are. Are you worried when you go back to an F eighteen that you're gonna, be they have that
but seriously there's something called negative transfer says a couple of things that you gotta be gotta: pay attention to eat you gotta,
so that there are some differences that if you get those wrong, those can be really bad, but most of it transfers over pretty easily
that the larger issue like you were talking about, and I my first comment.
real job at top gun was was called
adversary officer, so my wrist
Its ability was to make sure that all the training scenarios that we developed a top gun on that's his name to give some of the people that we work with like you, you working with accompanied you're like oh, you know what maybe we'll just call you the adversarial all the adversarial Khazars people there that we work with we're thinking. Man go you your work with company, you think, hey
when I bring you in where I bring up your name, all I hear is like that bad things. This is not a good idea. What
You doing what are we what's going on over here? Are you the adversarial officer here? So sorry,
I sincerely hope we talk the challenge of that as the adversaries officer, adversary officers, job.
To make sure that the training centres that we build on the adversaries I sold the opposing force was real
rustic and reflected the capability, the enemy. So we provided real training for further for the
blue students for that beat the friendly fighters going out to fight cuz if they went out and fought an enemy that wasn't performing the way a real enemy? Would they were going to be unprepared? We had an entire
You know, cell inside of top gun, designed it just to learn.
and study enemy tactics to make our turning more realistic. How what
you have to give to fly the sixteen a certain way. Dissimulate North
We, when we replicated a force on force, so there is some income enrichment, incremental training. So at the beginning of some phases of flight training that we limit, the capability of the enemy aircraft said to Bildt's, gets him building blocks and finance
But once we get to force on forest training and most of top gun is straight up. Just your best game
best game as the as the adversary.
Finally have sixteen to the MAX performers capability and how did the max performance of the F sixteen
compared to the MAX performance of the s you twenty seven or whichever close aircraft? So it's not exactly, but but close and and better than a sin
our craft, Tina, gets F. Eighteen meets on replicate a development airplane are the
their machines now at a different machine,
even if it doesn't fully replicate the enemy. It
as things differently, and that alone is a really powerful tool to practise again, because it shows you things that
can't do that in my machine. My machine won't do that. This airplane can and have to have a topic to respond to that
am I mistaken in that, the early nineties, when I went up to Foulon and I would go through some air wing training- would it be mistaken to think that their work aircraft up there besides the F sixteen that were acting as adversaries, Northanger you'd, be correct. Did you
have any other aircraft. Besides, you have sixteen. What would you guys
or what, at what other adversary aircraft were available to your opposing force,
you are the ones that the Navy furnished the most common ones for the Navy, where the F five and they have sixteen, but we all
had contract air? So we had that. You know
Ride Freedom fighter. Yes,
your you? Ve got it actually are there they squadron of fives in in, as
as adversaries in Fallon, Japan
like enemy aircraft design just to replicate an enemy threat. I remember those students absolutely and did they have read stars on they tone we did. I haven't vs, actually hundreds of her, I actually they might they pay.
We still have and
without source to in a week when we get the air force become bring up. Some fifteen to fly with us for a class we'd get yoke
contract company to five meal.
mirages and is really careers. Does whatever was out there to give you the student,
what we call a dissimilar look, every teens
seventeen is not a great way to replicate real training. You wanna give something that's different, sometimes it better sometimes it's worse, but that the fact that its different creates much more
realistic training were wise. It. When I read about like old school fighter and click test pilots like reading, we when we had Dan Patterson
they're, just kitten, indifferent aircraft hurt us wine out to area fifty woman does give ran to whom a aircraft than just fly in those things is that
because those old school aircraft were more similar in terms of the way you fly them, no man. I just think that those who has won afraid of anything I can find that whatever
now I think it was. You know
one of the cool things that that Damn Pedersen talked about.
here in the pot gas and just in general, was the idea that hate
media go figure out how this stuff works we need
get in these machines and figure how they work in and if we don't want to go across to Vietnam and we're gonna lose because we don't know how those machines work
regulations and restrictions and saving, always things were or forces were counterweights to doing that, their own reasons not to do it was a risk and
There's a tunnel risk that
did not wait, did not way going to Vietnam and losing and they they believe that, and they pushed hard against the institution to be able to do that.
yeah, and you know the last park ass we were talking about.
I was talking about the Eightys and Ninetys and look.
when you're in Wales
the eightys and Ninetys and you ve been tasked suit. You do that.
you can to maintain the the spirit of going to war, but
think of how hard the push back is against pushed in the envelope and training. When you're saying listen, we're years, when you we ve got
We better push the envelope, otherwise really go, get killed in Vietnam. It
Nineteen, ninety four it's like!
we better pushed the envelope?
Otherwise, then they come back he's. I just hate.
oh, my god, you know you let go of Nero guarded. Do that was
of time, and if you look at kind of r r what
called the baseline adversary. If you think about countries that would be our
adversaries now China, Russia
those countries were not a threat. Ninety, ninety four there really the institute
she had a really hard time being convinced that we need to train heart, really
it was a much harder cell. Now, it's it's a very different environment. In short,
selling the training demonstrating. Why we need to do this is actually easier because back then there was
hard to make a compelling case why we needed to push the envelope for what and when
when you guys, would look at doing a mission back then? What will you
linking. The big mission would be the
the big mission in nineteen? Ninety six, when you,
thing in all right
there may be a big mission that I need to be ready for me. I guess
we could look at that the Balkans, this time, yeah that so
the things in mere memory were desert storm and in
multiple? You know that
Kosovo
Former Yugoslavia that those get there was there was enough of those in there
and there was always this believer
it held over. There was always the spectre of of of like you, a great competition in Russia in America, those
have a thing, so they that those are always there and there was enough hole.
or from the country,
cold war era of leadership, which is the eighties and in a very early ninetys, was hey this
all travels, assign waves and
sooner or later, what's going to happen is that their ability, which were obviously we know that so that that spectre,
That was always there and the proliferation
their stuff all throughout Europe and
Great great bore, competition types of was always always part of what we did. That makes sense, and I guess it probably makes sense to think
that what he was leaning towards the teams back in those days,
probably in breeding in the greater good
ground troops, the ground forces was that these. These ideas, like going into a sustained ground combat, was really
that really is really seem, like a less likely thing, all the time, less
Most likely that we can actually pay working, if you would have told me
in nineteen. Ninety five: hey, though, the? U S, you're,
that the frog men of the two thousand and eight
two thousand tens are gonna, do deployment after deployment after deployment after deployment after deployment to the desert,
and there going be fighting in Greece,
and combat
stand for two decades. It would have been, it would have been very. It will be been hard to predict, but we trained we trained and there we kept training
next little section testing a units proficiency, the chief objective of readiness trainees, to ensure that all units are maintained at a high rate of operational readiness throughout the year. That is that, every year,
it is prepared to carry out its combat missionary time,
operational readiness testing to determine your units operational, Teddy Opera
operational readiness, you must provide testing any
cut? It talks about what to covers a minimum amount,
He talks about New York view of these various abilities, debility rendezvous, the variability shoot, move, create all good and-
ox about for best rules,
readiness test should be on announced, which I totally agree with. These tests should be practised
demonstrations of how successfully a unit can be expected to execute all or
part of its emergency mission totally get now.
here's where here
were testing, can concern me
we do a test we
We kind of have to give hey here's the task conditional centre right. Here's that here's, what you gonna be told to do here is the standard in, and here's what you need to do it right
or so here's the task right. This is what you have to do here is the conditions of that task and here's this standard that you have to me. I was working with a government agency and one of the tasks of this government agency was they had to be able to interdict vessels,
small vessels, and so in order to introduce these vessels. They may have to disable the motor of that vessel and
so they had to be able to shoot a weapon,
from a moving vessel
therein at another,
vessel to disable an engine? Ok got it so
overtime, that became a qualification that you had to get and over time it became a test that you had to you how to build a success. We complete the Tec test in order to maintain this qualification doing and here's the thing.
One of the guys that was had this standard was telling me about the tests and he was complaining about the test. And what had happened? Was this test the task condition and standards.
We're so controlled that there was no real.
True whatsoever, and it was ok. The the target
vessel we'll have a target on that vessel. That is, whenever three feet by three feet:
The vessel will be moving in acts,
These state, which was no waves- they basically would do only do it if there is no waves happening whatsoever.
and it would be moving at five knots and the
assault vessel would also be moving at five knots. The distance will be fourteen,
and it was this this whole thing, and so basically you know
zero skill to do it.
Zero skill is basically
a ten or twenty fourth shot at a nice big target, and it didn't prove any.
The reality of shooting an engine to get an engine to go down on an outboard motor is a pretty tough thing at sea state at night. There's a lot of things going on and by the way,
happens. Do you have
if you have? If you know,
You ve got a laser on your weapon at its at night. You ve got nightmares non and you can train your laser on that year to see state. You can keep its steady, you can fire few round school
I worry about testing, sometimes because when you put tat
when you put tat conditions and standards so that you can provide a test. Oftentimes those restrict the environment and they make hand
and when things become canned you're, not you're, not testing, on what you want to
done so I would always you know course or to have testing things then have the real test
Which is gonna be mayhem, its can be mayhem
That's all we want to see. How do you handle the mayhem when you have night vision on laser? If you don't have night vision on, can
still see that later, there's lasers, that you can see and there's lasers, that you cannot see so
you could have a laser without night vision. That's a red lasers like what you see in the movies. Are you familiar with movies terminator? So you
you get laser, were you
you can see the little red dot? Yes, that's a visible laser there's! Also!
I our lasers,
for red lasers that you can't see without me
this number with neighbours- not it's- it's it's actually insanely bright and clear, and then they have something that has an eye
our flood, which so you can actually lighting up the entire target area with
its illuminated and then there's a laser right in the centre of it, and that you can see that without goggles nope you need goggles,
neither the equivalent to that would be just a regular flashlight, which we also have where you press a button and a flashlight comes on and in the centre that fast does a rebate catch you, ok, so did
ok. You have all that in all that you have all that on your weapon all the time
so the whole deal. That's why, when you see guys weapons now
get out of a job, it is to have gone on a web site. It's get better yoke. Is all these little pieces are getting smaller there there there consolidating some of these pieces. So it's one piece instead of three different pieces note now you can get like a grip
that has a hasn't white light and a red laser.
and the batteries there was a time we
the battery thing, and then you had the laser thing and then you had a battery for the flashlight thing and you have wires going all over the place is a total gut check. Nowadays, people are making stuff more with bottom line,
but that one, you know they're the ones that.
Like you could see the laser through the little lens, almost cowhide, so that legal you can see the die you can. I read out the other, that's that.
Just another type of system within the enemy, the Knocker be able to see that Burma is one of those
No, you have those two on the deal growing the teams. Yet over there
actually, work guys are doing now. That's really cool cause
sort of getting next level. The way that
the technology is just really getting so much better right. Now,
it's getting way more high speed in the guise systems are much better than they were. You know I mean the
that the changes that took place from Vietnam to nineteen
Ninety five is: is Jaime
compared to the changes that took place last year, you know, is exponentially better weapon systems in and not so much that the weapon system, but there, the accoutrements that you put on the weapon systems are way better. On me, I mean I get kind of crazy when I'm watching like some of the new technologies, criminals, awesome auspices,
next little section. Is it then, by the way to sky, skip
you were wondering Dave. I told you can escape some stuff, the stuff that I skip it,
really goes into like the details of each and every type of you
that you can be working with. It goes into this. Some very granular detail
for a military leader, but a little bit too granular for general public consumption and I haven't. I haven't actually started the execution of publishing this thing on my own. I obviously do this needs to be a jackal publish, jock abolishing book, so I gotta, I guess I gotta.
figure out the legality that I think the legality is none. I think it's it's more than fifty years old, which meets its public domain. So all right, a little forward to it.
and will go from there and I'm sure now much people are gonna, go publicists. You know it's interesting so that
the name of this and I brought this up already, but it's a Stackpole,
patients and by the way Stackpole
publications you're. Welcome, because I know I've read books from you that you published one of them, I know is allocated
say lower recovered alongside the vote of Glover Johns,
which, by the way, is another connection back back worth, and I talked about it. I'm pretty sure some of copies,
this has created a saint low salt. I wrote step,
books and email. That's it hey! I'm here
book I'm trying to find, I have been able, try had been ill defined it love to
Do something right a forward way? We publish this thing, whatever never heard back from. Unfortunately,
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So back this training for contingency operations, in addition
to being prepared to execute combat missions is part of a combined force. Units overseas must be trained and ready to perform a wide variety of contingency operations. It is not possible to identify all contingencies which
may face army units stationed overseas gentle.
A unit that is well trained for its basic combat mission will be capable of supporting. Can
The operations commanders
Be aware, however, that their troops me
the employed in areas where the weather and terrain differ greatly from that found. An area
which there are stationed,
Combat ready elements should be aired transportable
movement on short notice to potential trouble areas. They should be trained to quell civil disturbances. Control riots guard
recover critical installations, bolster civil authorities and police provide.
Emergency relief from natural disasters and handle numerous other related tasks, and imagine.
manner can visualize appropriate unfeasible contingency missions for his unit and presented with appropriate training situations,
now here's here's something that offer when there is such such training will provide
I'd variety, but must be based on logical conditions, would be realistic. The thing
for when there is, since you
don't know what these contingencies are. You have to train people on what to do when they don't know what to do.
How do you assess the situation? How do you look at it? How you look at it with an open mind and that's one of the one of the real benefits of I had of growing up in this you'll teams. As we lacked doctrine, we have
or now man. When I grew when I was God the teams there was no doesn't work out all word of mouth and at so
When you got told hey you're going to do this type of mission, you just got told word of mouth and how you're going to do it and it was a type
No one had ever done before we're gonna sit there make up how to do it. There was no book to refer to
we did and we didn't have to what we didn't have in nineteen. Ninety five.
No one ever said to me: hey we're doing an assault.
Here's the army manual of what they do not ever,
that never saw an army manual veto in the teams in the nineties. It was all word of mouth.
So you had it, you got yet the poor people
nations, where you go ahead and he's a random mission figure how you do this
How you gonna do this and then you see what they do and there are protocols.
Or what to do, and you don't know what to do
Then it gets into this section right: readier witches
like all. Maybe I'll get this net. I read like four lines and like all right, this is freaking awesome. So true, guy
lines for Planning brigade and battalion attacks. Training, regardless of size of unit has but one purpose that is to teach effectively the techniques of combat
The attack is the key to success. The
France is merely a temporary expedient to conserve forces for an attack
elsewhere or to prepare for an attack at a future date.
So the only reason you're goin on defence is so they go back on the attack
That's the only reason you got everything is to it.
That's all you do you're going to attack. Are we gotta
to take all, whereas doing so that we can attack later that's what we're doing we're going to attack.
The consequences of having an attack grind to a halt are great. The effort required for it to bounce.
act is tremendous once in it
is launched. Its momentum must be maintained until the objective or object.
Are seized and secured battle losses received due to poor planning and faulty execution or inexcusable, and will result in a loss of respect for and confidence in the commander. The best
mutation a commander can have is that he occur
pushes his missions with few losses. The
and sought in planning and executing an attack is brought about by deliberate planning in violent execution. The opposite
is fatal?
need in planning is often needed, but hey
should be avoided.
Remember that in combat there is no second opportunity and seldom opportunity for rehearsals this delay.
The planning is accomplished in five phases.
is one basic factors, principal factors which must be condemned.
goodbye commander in deliberate planning our mission and
situation, troops available, terrain,
and whether this is something we all learn. Basic mission, enemy
troops available training, whether phase two tenant
Plan of attack
much time to buy subordinates, and I have four reconnaissance planning and the issues.
border, what gender
scheme maneuver do I want to employ what formations are feasible? What does the mobility of my command? How much
Spurgeon can achieve and still accomplished, my mission with speed and violence.
Supporting nuclear fires
are planned for all our available tooth to me for
Jason units when I
that, unlike thinking while wow. This is, I think, this book.
nineteen sixty two nineteen sixty three. This is like
it's on cold war,
we're thinking. If we are far from do an attack, you know what we may be.
in some tax will nukes.
That's where we're at.
So these guys are planning and thinking and thinking through using
nuclear weapons on the battlefield.
How can I employed by conventional fire support? That's a secondary thought by the Working programme, its go nuke villages
Go blobs probably have. Can I support the operation logistically? What is
status of personnel and equipment. How can I best use my supporting elements to include armor per enterprise?
carriers and helicopters arc
medication facilities that adequate cannot communicate with my support in units? Do they really use net with mine? What flanks
many problems. Do I have? How can I best
control of the attack from where what control measures? What must
be ready new next, when I have seized and secured the objective. So that's that right there. That was the tentative plan of attack.
and then it goes detailed plan of attack having analyzed these factors and having developed a tentative plant based on this analysis, the commanders ready get down the details. These things must then be considered,
what is the formation of that we'll be initially used mounted dismounted or by helicopter? What you
we in the initial attack what units are being supporting or in reserve? What will cost?
to buy base of fire, because it's all
cover move, we can have a base. If I were to have a an element, maneuvering will,
forward assembly areas or attack positions be used for
I attacking troops.
If so, where? When will my
Components of my fire supports start.
When will we should fire stop, however, rage for this to happen? How can exploit the effects of my sporting nuclear?
Fires,
so crazy to think about.
from what position will each of my attacking elements start their attacking by fire and maneuver cover move
That's not true line of departure and she
be considered as such. That's an l b.
There may be other courting lines or points in their how and from what distance. Well, I start a coordinated, so what command signalling contingent? Well, I used to started what reports why
back from my suborners units, what reports will give to my superiors with whom should I established liaison? How, when and where, should I issue my attack?
Order
What arrangements should I make for this
and it gets into the war gaming reasonable?
this is like think of the level of detail. Think of that you
of this political freedom feel men was question everything this. Is it man at what
we doing in
doing it having a checklist like this, the thing
about before you conduct an operation? I don't care if you're too busy,
if you're going to grocery store thinking about what you're going to be facing. This
is a smart way to operate.
Phase for war
gaming, the plan.
The commander now having come to a pretty firm idea of what he wants to do and how we want to do it now.
Games it in his mind and ass himself. The following questions, the zoo in Europe,
a punch, holes in your own plan to the maximum extent possible heaven
Based my plan on knowledge gained through active ground map and
reconnaissance and knowledge of the enemy situation,
analyze the enemy defence thoroughly, thereby locating and taking advantage of weaknesses in enemy disposition or terrain where the defender
not uses weapons or obstacles to advantage have I given
it could consideration to train and whether what if
So they have on the accomplishment of my mission. Have I
for maximum exploitation of available nuclear fires?.
have I considered troops safety in the planning of my nuclear fires and scheme of maneuver? Have I can
the use of armed personnel carriers have, I consider
the effects of nuclear weapons upon the terrain over which I am attacking blow down
contaminated areas, secondary fires blow
You know a blow now was I had to look it up. Guess where I went, I went to FM one hundred tack, thirty nuclear
operations. What is it
low down is when trees?
get blown down and their splintered and there they could
just obstacles everywhere very hard to move through. So you got to account for
in your assault, gonna account for the blow down
the nuclear weapons you used to prep the area for us all and have I provided for full shock effect
on the enemy. This comes from surprise tanks and strength, attacks from several directions, simultaneously, intensity of supporting fires during the assault and the
beat the assault by use of arms.
Snow carriages and helicopters does my plan provide for the weighting of the main effort. Have I use
Tacking units as a base of fire when I have artillery heavy weapons and mortars for this purpose, isn't it is crazy that everything is covered, move everything is covered, move.
The use of tanks for this purpose is especially faulty if the tanks will be used in the attack role to close with the enemy and overcome them.
has the excessive use of attack troops as a base of fire.
as reserves or as reconnaissance and security elements cause me to have to
Little strength in the attack have I selected
unnecessary intermediate objectives, which destroy will only go back to number ten here. Have I used to much of the attack troops in the
he's a fire. So when you have would be doing, assaults like let's say, has been basic seal platoon and in peace.
and we do an assault,
a base of fire and then you have an assault element and you could say,
Kay Squad, one you're gonna.
The basic element squad to you can be the assault element?
a squad, one you're gonna, lay down this base of Fire
while you're laying down that base a fire
comes the manoeuvre element, the assault element is gonna, move into position, and then there
start going through the target and then the base of fires gonna shift off the target, but they ve.
ass? The enemy fire night and go through pretty clean, so there
a tendency to think. Well. You ve got this base of fire. What am I
my machine gunners from squad to and-
them in the base, our met, suddenly a massive fire power and plus that means the assault elements a little bit later. They can move a little bit quicker and we're good
and I remember, your signature platoon brief and we're going
do that. Wasn't my plan
it. I was like a new literally a new guided just sitting there going. Ok, tell me what to do and the play
got briefed. Hey! Ok with this is how we're gonna task organise for this assault, put all the machine gunners, so
four machine guns in the base element as we have this massive firepower
and in these other guys them
white man from the from
squad, one in the rear security from God, WAN and whatever one a quorum
farther gonna go down and they're gonna go through the assault on it, and so then the old Mass chief says well what? If what if the assault element gets compromised, they got no machine guns,
one of the basic element. Once the assault element gets compromised and starts to engage the target, what have
If now they have to go on the assault and now the
a fire is weak from the former assault element. So what
Tell me I'm never sent their thinking. Ok, you gotta, be that's a contingency and, what's really doing is your dear?
you change your giving way so much tat who advantage, because not only that of the sea
tune squaw squat is meant to work a certain way, there's a reason design. That way, and almost you mix it all up up now, it's not really a seal squat anymore, then known freezing machine gunners in what's this,
oh freakin squad. Without machine gunners,
you ve taken those machine gutters away, and then you ve
overly burden, the other one with too many machine guns, so that idea of hey, I'm gonna, make these adjustments,
for this particular situation, and if everything goes perfect, it's good, but
anything, changes its bad. What
chances things are gonna go a little bit different,
the chances are frequent too I and you
Don't really gain that much does not really
much of an advantage anyway. So
that that reminded me of that
Have I selected unnecessary intermediate objectives which distract from the attainment of the final objective
intermediate objectives, facilitate control and maintained direction. However, too many
Such objectives, destroy flexibility and initiative and tend to slow.
The attack man, man, that's good, you know what's good about them.
I like that, because, contrary to what we
all say ice it
we not do much, not stopping at front didn't people they were
can it makes sense. We know it makes sense. Hey we got this big project. Do ok, let's vigour,
some intermediate steps that we have some short term goals and we can move in that direction and it feels good we get gratification. We make sure we're on track. There's dichotomy
Can we go too far with that? Yes, we absolutely can.
Now, listen, we ve got goals that we're trying to achieve or doing reports on goals that don't even friggin matter. Don't let that happen
have I determined the time and space factors of attacking units from the lighted departure back these Emily area. Have I
The stage for the assault have I set the lot limited delighted departure too far back have I use my Ford AIR Control or supporting artillery commander supporting battery more
Commander engineer: platoon leader, communications officer, assault, assault, gun, leader record
Mrs Fourtou meter, surgeon and my planning and my staff
in planning checking and completing the detailed plans and I'm kind of breathing through, but that one requirement pause.
So he names off all these different people, all these different professionals
and then he says, have I use them in planning, checking and completing the details of my plants,
and the reason I want to focus on is a bunch of time. She's export, hey. I gotta give my plan have given my plane. Clearly.
Are you saying here: is it's not my plan? It's the plan,
artillery guy, the mortar guy, the engineer, guy, the communications guy, the assault die, the reconnaissance guy. This
Gin
Mr. It's their plan.
Have I use them to come up with this plan and if I haven't, then I'm wrong.
have. I consider the ammunition available to my fire support units.
Are my supporting fires plants that there'll be no laws during critical phase the attack by giving consideration the use of nuclear fires.
the time fire over my takes up the tanks were available to smoke too
having my infantry follow closely supporting fires. Does my plan require holding up any elements during the attack to clear barriers or obstacles? Does my purse,
and of attack foresee and provide for the next step in case of success partial
success or failure? This
planning should in no way influence the violence which the attack is to be executed, but think about that, how do I have a plan?
for success, partial success or failure? Do I know what I'm gonna do have
given some unit the mission of watching in securing my flanks
have I ensured that, after the seizure of the objective, my units have
detailed plan for consolidation, reorganization and continuing the attacks that they will not rest on their laurels? Thus it
Supposing themselves to a surprise, counter attack and losses from
fires or the loss of the initiative.
just imagine sitting down with your leadership
as you assess something that's gonna do and try and come up with this many holes, the punch in your own plan, if
not doing this. The holes don't get filled in having having next
it is the attack worker having war game the plan in his mind, at being satisfied as to his condition. I knew
I'll say this: if not, it is not his mind as far as I'm concerned I'll get the staff together what it is,
there are, however, would be this plan up. We're gonna go through these questions were com?
but more questions having
more game, the plan in his mind and being satisfied
to his solution, the commander than proceeds to the actual issuing of his order. It can be assumed that some time during the foregoing phases, he has, in addition consider the fine he's not even done considering. Yet I must
Why not take so much time in making my plans and announcing my orders that my subordinates have inadequate time before each hour? In case of
I will send a staff officer Ford to support a commander rather than calling him back or old. My conference for issuing orders
well, for what does that mean? We're taking care of the frontline commander? Do hate Dave?
We are preparing for this right now, but I want you to come back to my location, so I can brief. You know also
the guy ought to do too. Did you make sure you know what you need to know?
in order to avoid misunderstandings and overlooking overlooking
important things. I must issue my orders in the standard sequence. I must
sure that every commander knows what he is to do and win
I must impress all with the need for vigour
the execution of my plans if the answers to all these are satisfactory, you and
units are off to a good start?
What would you like about it? If you do
all these things.
All these things, Europe.
After a good year, you made the first step in the right direction. I do now
later. Second, guess your decisions and change your orders novices
the talk about at least a little bit
are there times when you need to change your worst. Absolutely are their times were new intelligence comes to light, and you say yourself, you know what the plan that I came up with.
is no longer optimal. I need to change it. Does that
happened? Yes,.
Are there times where you
you, some micro change occurs on the battlefield and you decide to
change plans, that's already been cursed, thought through
and and everyone's been briefed and now you're gonna throw up a curve bond,
everybody. I
almost guarantee you that you should just
as we used to say in the teams,
can your dive and dive your plan plan, your diving,
you come up with a plan and then common execute your plan. When you start throwing
curve balls and try to change things on the fly
we ever Evan Evan Havre from
rifle coffee. I was out doing some archery with him and I will
talk about something he goes yea. I will just figured out under water, which is which is actually hilarious. Thinkers when you're, diving, obvious, you can't talk, you get figure anything out of the water
surprisingly had never heard that expression before, but it's it's freaking awesome
It's free, awesome, hey, we'll just disfigured out underwater meaning. If we let this go, we're screwed, we're screwed say don't!
the figure things out underwater. What you do is you dive your plan?
This is such a. This is why leadership is heart, because there are absent
we times regal. You know, what's bad plant
the change, we need to change a right now
we need to change the plan right now. That's fine! There
also times where you say you know what we're close and
but we will gain from trying to adjust this plan right now, we'll be there
just will be so hard to make at this juncture that it's going to cost,
any positive that will come from trying to change his playing right now. So you have to be careful that
dont harass the subordinate commanders while they are planning
issue their orders
getting ready to carry out their assignments. You and your staff should make
checks as our need. Without violating this some of the former troops once they attack starts, you can
foods, the battle by shifting of supporting fires, maneuver and use of your reserves? You should be prepared to do this. You should
I anticipate what may happen so that you will be at the critical spot at the critical time to give them
command push necessary to keep the attack going. Commanders
should make planning the attack a subject for schools and table exercises and tactical walks or ride
for the appropriate officers and men.
I know you can get a chance. Do you have battlefield which we went out to Gettysburg, but that tactical walk that we take just its friggin awesome? It is awesome
walking the battlefield and under
standing the terrain and seeing it on the ground is absolutely phenomenal. Lessons learned are credible and would have out of Jason and Steve onwards to talk about that
and this is really the last piece of wool pulled off
one more thing where you want more episode-
one more one,
episode for me too.
fill. My my
My own personal satisfaction in this book, a commander who prepares its
list from these guidelines will have a great aid in time of pressure. It will enable him to plan thoroughly with speed instead of haste, so speed instead of haste,
do essential things. First, do things right, the first time pressure
this more than one thing at a time, so many just words to think about.
I think one of the first quotes. I said he with a little picture. The attack is the key to success. The defence is merely a temporary expedient to conserve forces for an attack.
where you'd or to prepare,
for an attack at a future date, so many good quotes and in what I am not saying that you should blindly follow the thoughts and ideas
box, and I would never say- and we ve we ve gone back and forth and we came to the areas where we disagree with with
the general has to say, but I'll tell you what
a minimum. You should consider them.
You should consider what they could consider those thoughts.
We understand where they came from. You should understand what they meant. Use,
I should keep them in front of mine, because these are lessons that were written in blood and they were proved on the battlefield,
they were meant as the book states? Are you don't send your saying? Hey? Don't you don't don't follow blindly guess what the
is called the workers.
Guidelines, it's called guidelines
guidelines are supposed to steer us. There's post up
it, is going in the right direction. They're not supposed to be followed. Blindly, there are supposed to be o b. O
aid with with no deviation whatsoever disposed to steer us supposed to see the people that we lead in the right direction. When you think Dave
kind of crazy writer it's crazy that scribbling. I'm writing notes on this and you might
hearing? What are saying- and I'm just cut thinking about almost trying to put myself in in in
General Clark Shoes as if I could do that, but that's page after page after page of
What appears to be always come minutiae, these little details he's bringing out.
But they're all things just like you just said. These are all things that he is probably seen over and over
be the reason why teams don't succeed and I was
I was trying to summarize what he was saying in my mind is how much of your plan much of this thing that you ve created you Bilbil
strategy. This is where we're going to go. Do then, you go to plan how much of that plan as you go to these other phases to test it and pressure test it and consider the errors in it. How much of that is really based in reality?
it is based in truth, and how much is this, what you conjure up in your own brain thinking? This is.
Going to work out. My idea is brilliant. I know what's going to happen
I put it all together, my head and this house
where is perfect scenario that I create and is basically saying, don't do that
bring in all these other people.
to annihilate and pull cause and dig in pig in a poke every possible
air in omission of things you haven't done in your plan and
In the same breath, he sang and oh by the way, we're gonna stick to the plan
Reason we're gonna take stick. The plan is because actually it's not my
and in it hasn't been my plan for a long time has always people came in and understand what China do picture
and they're the ones you gonna go execute and you you talked about humility before the humility of away of a leader to say,
I built the strategy Albert the planting of biogas role here too,
everything wrong with its usual execute when the scenario completely false, parkers there's no way, I can bring predict what can happen
and that is that is crazy. The application to that in life is.
Especially since this is a guideline is universal,
because that's what you need to do, I don't know the tat all the time tat I dont know how things gonna play out. I don't but-
hearing what he saying and the risk of creating it in your own minuses.
We're gonna go happened to execute and setting your team up to fail for not being prepared for the thousands of contingency that are absolutely going to happen with your plan that fit
It was- and I know that the Finnish all think then that Finnish was crazy and then he likes to conclude with an oh by the way, if you do all these things near after good you're off to a good start, ass men talk about me, your phone line, I think I might have you been talking to debrief bar cast.
Of planning with a negative attitude, will you come up with a plan you should, but you should be looking at that thing. As I told a pessimist, this is gonna work or knock and have enough people their enemies, gonna. Be there, then,
how you want to plan and then the other,
be careful of you. You just said
Thousands of contingencies, and will it ain't? There are thousands of contingencies and there's no possible way. You can plan for thousands of contingencies. What you can do is you can have decentralized command. You can have a plan that adaptable you
if people the freedom to maneuver, to adapt to those contingencies which are unforeseen
long as they understand why they're doing what they're doing they understand what the intent of the operation is, they can make
thousand decisions and never even talk to you never talk to you one time. That's the goal. The plan ass to be flexible enough. They did the
command needs to be decentralized down to the lowest possible level and has long
everybody understands what it is that we're trying to accomplish. They understand why they're doing what they're doing they understand
intent of the operation they can make.
A thousand decisions by themselves and get the mission done.
That is a powerful thing to think about so
So I think we got.
We have one more point gas this book and it will be done in up well well, we'll get it out there to the world will get some some version
out there to the troops. In that way. We can use this
book to guide us to steer us in the right direction, so ECHO, Charles speaking, of
staring us
in guiding us in the right
direction there a direction you maybe did not write direction where we're gonna, when we need that remote get up and we're gonna work
do the right thing. We're gonna get the sweat for yes solution, a solution with some sweat will say the tend to check
way. Yes, so a path really
direction in our path. The path yes actually knows better than us,
Yes, we're all on this path and wise men's once said. That's not easy. The path is hard
anyway, so ok. So on this
We do need supplement, okay against
condition that kind of you can it for. I kind of sometimes forget about this. Where you are like you UK, you problem will never had this from maybe do maybe not but deeper
Maybe so you know how, like your real used to taking ok, some really used to taking discipline right before work on and if I
start running low or run out panic,
yeah like a well for lack of a better terms,
say you're panic, but it's the hind leg. Bravo
now I don't know if I can work out. Of course, I'm not thinking that specifically, but that's the feeling again, but they make.
My missile, no, not tsar, supplementing help on this path. That's what all this stuff is. So just keep that in mind. Ok, so anyway,
with that in the recent I thought about that. Also another reason was this patent. The path is hard right, like I do said, okay, so the other day I might get injured
right so I took on some of the nine. Not sir, is by the way I mean it's not.
answer, but I'm saying I just I don't be
worried about lawyer rocket. So no director like yes and actors on the fee, you know whatever united sliding injuries that are not life
changing in any negative way recoverable area as inconvenience, but we're pushing through it. We
look up. We're gonna shift some some some resources, red or some sliding into various roles. One of em
required a little bit earlier of mourning for me
earlier right, maybe well tried
we were not going to those details, you know, but
wound up with. If I'm not mistaken, two hours, asleep a little bit more than two hours like under three hours, so of course you know what that means. The work up becomes questioning
I'm saying, but so I started thinking and it has as to do with what we're done my last time, where you cannot think about it like what does it take to today,
this work is done in my default is well obviously along map for
person, but let's say that's not available to when you rather just get it done. Well, you know I'd
whether it be done for sure, but about the getting it part simply when young unto half hours sleep whatever anyway.
so like what would it take? Ok. So what if it is just going on in my mind, what what would it be like like? What's holding me back from actually just doing it,
like. What would would is there anything that would keep me from achieving that. You know I'm getting the workout done some small likes like such a small. Do you want to sing it out loud, but nonetheless
they you. I saw video the other day of Joe Rogan and they had to Rogan. Somebody was talking to him and they dislike. They were
in his face. While the person was talking, he was thinking about, like some other totally random journeys wasn't paying attention. Is that how you feel facilities to worry about trust me trust, me? Is gonna bring it home is going to have some valuable, nor I tell need this love them, so I went up to concluding that
Why not concluding tat is gonna? Look at the scary thing is now.
I don't know that Israel's he's gonna walk space accused really trying to do here.
Try to stay with you you're right.
Dane with because he knows that, like he's gonna be able to use. This ok is growing at so anyway. I'm like, ok, technically, there's nothing keeping me from getting this work out done, even though it seems like a real painful idea.
Is there anything keeping you forgetting the story done the actual content of the story,
Are we brought? You should incorporate this mindset interact now. Ok, I can finish it if I started catches it anyway. The answer ended up to be nothing aside from me very much not being in the mood
two, I convince myself that I need a certain amount of sleep to get a workout done on an individual individualist, not true nature.
so it's kind of like ok, it's kind of a form of realizing that you cannot have mental toughness and away like realizing it not
invoking it just realizing, and then you can use it so that the work done. Ok,
What also what or what they did also is set the precedent there I was they did. It was going nowhere. It set a precedent for
if that happens again, you just automatically no seems, rather than trying to dig deep, couldn't have to dig deep scar relay some stuff. Sometimes is what I'm saying Roger
anyway, kicking back to the supplement taken when you doing these things right, whether you're out a discipline or not. This is this. Is us up limitation? You do the work out. You take this up limitation. It's like you ever play that game super
off road, nor let a girl, no it's like a game like he race track, throw it makes him
you raised in the truck and then, if you win, you get credits were
can buy like acceleration or speed or
traction or whatever right? That's. What every one of these supplements is something that the discipline for your mind for anybody body more for the protein
in all these things. So if you get em all give the full decked out routine for the path is what I'm so buncher things during warfare super cruel
discipline. Vitamin d,
cold war, Moloch yeah, but each
matching pumpkin mark, which has to be just brought up because it's good, but you gotta include what mark is. That mark is, though protein
no that no kind of Amelia s face. It may do this, for you gotta, listen to your story. There is an urgent need, no everytime. I think your factually incorrect and that I think that the European Union is factually incorrect. I feel like there's a value there. Ok Dave with there's some value. There are no
do you think there were some value? I certainly am. I
To be honest with you, I'm kind over here thinking, there's a little bit of a conflict in what you're saying, because
Why would think as vows onto our to sleep men like look the sooner I get this
soon. I get in the sooner it out and you are in complete control that situation
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moments, a weakness too. I was asleep or or otherwise we ve. Just in the mood to skip work out. I got three hours sleep. Last night, you haven't you don't count
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five point five billion. What what's insomnia? Here's the insomnia, here's! What insomnia like from me,
my mind. Isn't a roller coaster
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one o eight. Last time I looked at the clock and then the alarm clock went off so like you,
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fell asleep and then the alarm clock went off. We got attended and got after great I'll, get that sometimes that that's it actually pretty good description or get that sometimes, but not before you go to sleep, it'll be like a wake up in the current commitment.
The night and that'll happen I can go back. Sleeping is two point. One like Brown died, Scully, twenty five more minutes. I almost got up almost got up at midnight when worked out. I probably should have I
fact I should have, but I kept thinking it's right there, like maybe over the
maybe around this next corner is
land there now
it's going to be a little while. Maybe this is there some waiting for waiting for it?
longer you trying to wait for the harder it is to come around so yea, that's for sure
and then I had a bad. Now I had a dream. The other night, a bad dream, had a dream. The other night I mean like somewhere some foreign country and something happens.
And we like get the call my k, we gotta go right now, and so I run to get my gear. I pick up my gear in my mouth
Gesine are not loaded and the havoc
this common intellect take us to do whatever we gotta do, there's guys in trouble. They look
becomes. I am sitting there loading max as fast as I can, and then I'm running
and I see the helicopter leaving with
my guys on board and that its leaving an I missed like they had to go.
In brief, I mean I was dislike feeling. Second, I woke up and it took me no, whatever tens
actions to realise that it did really happen.
So I had the worst feeling ever and then
five seconds later on, like super thankful men embalmed out again, because it happened in that
That makes sense. I was going to like kind of tease you or whatever, how you like, but
that can dream now with that kind of obviously, but it was with football games like I'm trying to make it too.
football game or what I ran then. I can see like here on the radio like half time. You know that,
this quarter and unlike not even at the game, it sounds like you,
third quarter, and I get there in the game is like finishing tunas:
I never would have anticipated in one million years that you had some kind of anxiety about being late
Forget it
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Into our sleeping at eight hours, sleep twelve hours out on us,
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we deserve our great nation with the lessons you are passed on to us and thanks to all the military troops out, there.
on the sea, air and land that maintain vigilance at all times for hours,
dirty and thanks to the police in law enforcement, fire fighters paramount
empties dispatchers, correctional officers, border patrol
reserves and all the other first responders.
who also remain vigilant to keep us safe here at home and to everyone out out there once again from general, Bruce see Clark,
quote. The attack is the key to success, the
France is merely a temporary expedient to conserve forces, foreign debt,
elsewhere or to prepare.
Air for an attack at a future date end quote: you know what
do go out on the attack and until next time, this Dave and ECHO and Jacko out.
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