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#1252 - Dave Foley & Paul Greenberg

2019-02-25 | 🔗
David Foley is an actor, stand-up comedian, director, producer and writer. Paul Greenberg is an actor, comedian and voice actor. Together they host "Don't Say.. with Paul & Dave" available on iTunes.
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take it anymore. Well, my guess today is a dear dear friend that I love to death. His name is Dave He was on news radio with me he's a brilliant person. Really. One of my time, favorite people that I've ever worked with ever he was, I would say, he's like one of the secret producers of news radio, because root v wrote so many scenes and he's such a brilliant joke writer and he has a new podcast with his friend Paul Greenberg, their new pod, gas is called, don't say with Paul and Dave and I really enjoy talking, and we really got cooking about an hour in it seems like we're doing. Mostly normal talk, and then we just caught a a sometimes it happens, a podcast you just sort of catch a stride each groove and I really enjoyed it? I love I love Dave Foley to death, so please welcome Dave. Foley an Paul Greenberg
The Joe Rogan experience so experience, can't oh yeah yeah that's the title, the title to show that we've omitted from the print yes listing is that you have chosen don't say Cont with Paul This is the one place where you're not going to hear the word count. It's a kind. Promise that for forty five minutes, they'll be forty five minutes, because, as we understand it, Americans don't like the word count some America, yeah, it's getting number that's what the book yeah used to be, but until that day there's an eight, a bunch of women that were trying to take it by whose was at the the guys we girls, I think it was they were trying to take it back. They're trying to like you know, take the account yeah back to work. Well, I think my mind by
very dead inside my head was matter. Dave Dave has set up yeah having to dry. It might might have disconnected yeah. This is fun for the Gmail hook. It up. You're, ok, you're, my plugged in there's a little bit of an issue feel like I feel like there's a pressure differential so you only have one IRAN to over Bolton run their money. I took it off 'cause, they couldn't hear anything check, check, check, check, one million two hundred and thirty four thousand five hundred and ninety six, that's a little a little that is Paul parent Lee. I think That's me, that's me, I can hear now. Ok there we go now just something that somebody's in here gremlins we turned into something begin with. There were not which one was me I'm going to just adjust it. That's our show this one hello, one one one one one, only one one one one day there you go, that's good! So all right here Dave! So what Why did you just choose that, as your podcast title were Canadians
and is not it's not nearly as bad in Canada's really doesn't swear. Word: yeah yeah, it yeah it. I don't know what they need to put out some sort of a periodic table of the atomic weight of swear. Words you know current would be quite quite heavy, but but if you're in the American yeah, but here in America, kind actually just to drop through the cry, of the earth yeah and to have it just turned out right down to the core you'll go through the other side, yeah, so yeah. I guess we just found that Peyton Lee ridiculous. Well, we, like you, know we we grew up. I grew up hearing the word a lot from my my dad. What was your dad like not like much anymore. He's dead thanks,
So it could be done in seventy, nine, sorry, dude and seventy nine. But, as I always say, he was mad. There are no better parents than dead parents. They can't funk you up anymore right, but my dad was a real relief on that word, and the english noble Canadian, you full Canadian but being Canadian is kind like and right shoulder having this week when your money so yeah yes, and we get all the english movies on English TV shows we pledge allegiance to the queen in all in all: it's still a billion and in our sleep, so many good things about Canada. Yet so many preposterous thing yeah it's true. It's the fact of the fact that a monarchy still exists at all is preposterous. Cnn is great on paper, yeah yeah! Well, the my key even itself. It's it's become Kardashian Ified, but yeah right, like a didn't when they always
Get me where I mean. How long did I days and yeah, or even just back to Henry the eighth? I mean what what maintained the monarchy other than the fact that people wanted celebrities, and that's the only celebrities they had right and the priests, and, I think, it also had implants for him, as he did much for yeah yeah? Well, yeah good for him to her and progressive yeah to have his time, yeah that that that is an interesting thing. It's like with the Prince Charles Lady Di's saga, was essentially one of our first reality things to enjoy yeah. Yes, that was madness and it happened. It was, and then someone said well what if we just make housewives in Orange County royalty, and you don't have to pay them as much as the king and queen, you can cancel them yeah, shows, are wonderful. I've never seen an episode of any of their fascinating to Beverly Close one is there's well there's different versions of him right.
Different versions yet to see the geographical creepiness of like Atlanta yeah as its own thing. Yeah, it lands on a bad one. The worst one was jersey, they're, savage people, yeah. That's a high ancestors. Those savage monkey folk yeah is the worst and nothing cut. It turns the numbers and the worst of anything, the worst. The worst penicillin is the Jersey, penicillin. Csi Jersey was terrible by the way, not at the yeah the Beverly Hills, one of the all of them were fascinating, is take. Take people force them in these situations. Where the going to have his artificial, we crazy to me is watching people succumb to the pressure of all attention with they've, never experienced it before, and then and just thrust them into this massively popular. You know for lack of a better word cut fest yeah right. Well, if you take your test,
yeah. I need divorce it of any supporting sort of supporting under you know, structure, yeah salad for that supports, or something offer yeah nothing to offer. Don't offering there's no painting! No sculpt saying they only take yes give his fame will destroy if you're a brilliant artist fame will destroy you. Yes, if there's nothing underneath the fame, it's there's nothing to hold it up. Remember, watching Kelsey Grammer's wife, when I had met her she seems like a very nice lady coming out. Yeah Camille and then she forgot her name. Thank you. I didn't want to just wanted. I wanted him to contact the owner. He has a huge Camille thing, I'm Ryan type of tattoo, I was gonna say: do you have a tattoo? but she decided to play the heel and uh It was so obvious that the pressure was just overwhelming the hatred that was In her way she decided she was going to be the boss on the show. Just let
everybody know. You know this is how it is and I'm here to run things and yeah just swap of evil yeah. That came her way, and this is like God, quit done. Fuckme show Cici build out of it good for her yeah. Well, you're rich! Even choose that role or was it like a producer? It said here's your angle well waiting to Kelsey. He told her like hey, ok, this is what you've always wanted here like 'cause, that's like what led to their divorce or what was happening during them getting divorced. You know essentially said you know this is what you've always wanted. Like you, I don't think you understand this. So good luck with it and then You know she she just kind of vanished after like Fuckall this, which is wise on her part. She she recognize what it is, but like those those people that are on it like. I know some people who know some folks that are on the show yeah and they just go crazy. They start
popping pills and losing their mind there in therapy every day and just madness. Yeah the desire for fame with nothing more to it than other than a desire to be famous, can only draw one St Yaks fame fame as an emergent property of doing something right is bearable. But some trying run actually yeah so strange and so difficult to truly manage yeah, but you can at least say I'm don't define myself by the fame. I define myself by the work that rated the faint yeah right yeah. Where is if there's no work underneath it? It's you know it. You only exist in so much as people are aware review, you exist in those moments when you walk into a room and everyone staring at you right. That's what you look for and that's it. I have that anyway, because of my body
so I guess a number of real fame, sure yeah and your and the horrible. I would you have to pay that's true, camera pans and amp. Every time I walk in a room. Why was that like that that the fame is a property of of the beholder, not the beheld and that that fame only exists along with somebody in the room knows who you are right in a minute here in a room where no one knows you, your fame evaporates. That is one The weirdest interrogations have ever gotten is when people go who These people know you well yeah you who are you sure? I know you take a photo with you but I don't know who the weird things they're almost offended- that other people know you and they don't like. Why you're playing a game with me. Why are you why it? Why don't? I know you don't angry yeah? Well, there also there's another thing about famous that people feel like they could just start talking to you. Yes, yes, yes,
Just can sit next year, so yeah you could be in the middle of an intense conversation with your favorite person on the planet. They have a farm now Why? I think I know you they have been in their house. I have a living room. I had a guy come to me in the street and just go hey how you doing and that that one must gnomes are Oh I'm good. How you doing man and his next line was you don't even know me a fucking phony save that was me as you I wish I was better faces, was in Canada. This is in downtown la real hands on. May I have a no me a phone, I'm just trying to be nice. So was he a drunk? No, it just gives gay just only or pretend I know I'm just watch this. While I was at the end of the conversation that was basically it wow, what a rude person terrible conversation, but it's like I auditioned for news radio in ninety six, just never gotten over it. Yet fuckin' conflict yeah he's no one hundred and one
was on my way to stardom yeah and to be fair. It was me tripped him up: yeah yeah, uhm. You still doing that show with Doctor KEN no, we stopped when they canceled it I was a good move yet not right away. It's several months in doing the show after it was him yeah we didn't we all the doctors. That would no doubt no! No, that we are the that's a real and had I realize right, I can't remember what was the name of it. I mean we can still call Dr Oz. A real doctor. Right, I don't think, is far gone is drew once you've been pushed in front of Congress yeah and they call question on your weight loss claims yeah yeah, yeah yeah, Yes, it's true that you're showing that had a crazy title or something wasn't it doctor. Can that was it doctor KEN yeah? He just did Netflix Special he did he stepped back doing standup yeah he's one of the sweetest guys on the planet earth. He is a nice man, very, very nice guy and he's got a lovely family. Yeah super good guy
Are you still doing the acting thing enjoying it uh off and on uh you know enjoying yeah, difficult concept. You always that was the take. I had on it with you back in ninety four. Job than most. Yes, you know like that. Not like you know it's you know it's like when you're doing something you like there's a certain satisfaction, but even then like, when you're doing his radio, you don't get to enjoy it because you're you're so focused on what the flaws are well you're, making it right right right now, yeah you get to enjoy during the rap Party, yeah, yeah or or twenty, right, yeah yeah, I occasionally takes only sent me a clip online, and it's is so so change to watch it's strange when you're watching yourself from twenty plus, years ago say something you don't remember, saying yeah and then you watch like well. I don't remember that so it at all yeah.
Now I don't remember most, I don't I never watched. I think I only watched about six episodes. Radio now and I love the show But but you know I don't want to watch. You live there yeah there when it happened, yeah, yeah yeah, but what all it be doing, his nit picking the editing right right, right, yeah! It's this a strange thing to look back when you go back twenty plus years and think of all the all the scenes, all the writing, all the work, and now it's just sort of for now would that's the other thing. We never anticipated that it be floating around the internet. Yeah, you know yeah. You must clips and goes away in this rate is floating way out in the periphery of the internet yeah? But you solutions like drawn in sometimes but shows like like like friends like effect- and you know you have young kids, like my daughters, the fifteen she's watched every episode,
friends at least twice, although while like ten, it's ten years of shows- and it's not it's- every fifteen you might get to in the country now has one- and it's like that, that you know it's coming back insignificant significant of these kids. What's fascinating is I don't think those shows are being made anymore now not not. No, I mean there's the Chuck Lorre type shows that I watch and I go amiss, GM one as well yeah. I was ever laughing so hard did ever seen those without the laugh track. I can imagine must be live taken some of those jobs in the Big bang theory I like stuff and remove the laugh track, and you watch it with just the actor saying the words and it's like anything funny ever happened on it. Well, it's just strange It's like you're watching doesn't make any sense. It's a logical yeah that that that place it'll be fine, yeah, like I mean news, radio, if we did
scene in it didn't get a laugh. We rewrote the whole yeah early in from with the audience there. Well, I think the term good enough is perfect for comedy yeah, that's good enough for people to kind of chuckling once thank you once you get a certain number of characters that you can get to interact with each other and predictable ways on those shows Then they just sort of have them, have these little scenes and have different inflections and different stumbles and and they make a show out of it and for the honest, just becomes comfort. Familiarity I'm meeting that's what drove Charlie Sheen crazy doing that, God Damn show, and he did for a long time for a long time that's what drove him to the edge as I I think he was always crazy yeah, but I think when you do a show that you don't enjoy doing or that you don't look, the guy was in platoon yeah, right, yeah I mean he was in some. An inmate is a fair. He wasn't very funny in that. No, and once it was really kind of a bummer yeah this
yeah. They should take that as a warning that they should take that common label off that that should stop ending up in all those companies wall. St I mean he's in some J I n and good right. He absolutely movies and then he's on the show that doesn't really make sense, yeah and he's really talented yeah, like he's a really really talented yeah and really funny as an actor like great amazing timing of the like the this brothers franchise, hot shots. So yeah those they don't make. Those Anna moves movies anymore, like nobody, Dillane, jokes anymore, our instant non and we'll get jokes effort is frowned upon right. I think you be lazy, will comedy movies. Are there real comedy movies right, there's like the Judd, Apatow type films and you know they're still they still make comedy movies, but there's a scene.
It's like, there's not as many anymore yeah or maybe I just don't go out as much there's a little bit of that too, but so, like the subject matter so dangerous. Now, like everything that used to be funny, we I watched ACE Ventura PET detective with Mikey and I did not remember how transphobic that movie is like the or movie is one gigantic trans joke joke yeah? I don't know if I've ever seen at the end of it I'm like well, I forgot this is crazy, like the men when they find out she's a girl there throwing up and what that right, she's a boy rather there's the russian teeth and yeah you have this all robbing a house out and vomiting beats sure it. If you said that you'd be finished yeah I would be done and they still that whole joke from the crying game. Which is one of the funniest movies I've ever seen, which one came first
I don't know any magic that Ryan Crying Game did a serious version of ACE Ventura I have an idea for about the whole as talking scene, would be totally different. Yeah yeah, I thought I remember, watching the crying game going and neck and heard this is big twist big surprise to help that's a guy about what happens. Is that the that the the transvestite turns out to be an IRA spy. I forgot that movie So how long you guys been doing this podcast. This is how we just before Christmas. Yes, I guess not not that long, yeah yeah probably have known each other right now. Thirty years. What motivated it? Our wives get the fuck out of here at the house. Pretty much do something do and
and they're actually on the podcast with us, like Chrissy, my wife produces it an you know, put it all together, Jack Greenberg, was super hard to fire. It is well we're the ones who get fired, yeah. Well, she fired me once so. It's a ten years right, yeah Christian, we separated for ten years well! Well! Well, the last time. I saw you as well during that separation yeah, but you got back, We got back together, but two years old, yeah Christie's great, I remember running into her at a Satan thing that satanic whole thing right, yeah Duncan Trussell, my good friend was performing at. Is it Stanton Lavey's, grandson, some point in time limits on that drive grandson and they. Getting married at this fucking crazy the theater and your wife was dressed the devil or some shares some sort of God. She was like
saying that I'm like oh hi, how are you? What are you doing here like carrot, normal person, white here but uh? There's a picture of me with Anton Lavey that knuckleheads to this day uses evidence that I am a station Satan worshiper, you're merely an associate. You are, you. Are Satan, associates, Satan, adjacent, you think, that's what they say now yeah. You know and that's fair, That way, I love that that that that some people are still worry about it. I'm sure I was safe and wait there. You are my god yeah, that's good! That's me in a, I think: that's Hank Williams. The third shirt that I'm wearing there that's the thing: people the fact that people still worry about Satan is just you wanted to say calm down, he's not a problem 'cause. He doesn't exist just like your God
They both are you there, people listening right now. They just took their earphones, often through the cross around yeah. Well, we're going to get new year come here, come for thirty times. You got something preferred customer that yeah so much as you want just you know whether or not God exists. Is a fascinating point of discussion, but what's interesting, Is this agreement that people say when they decide that God exists and you decide that God exists and I decided God exist. So we both have agreed that there's this weird thing, it makes no sense that we're on board with so I know where you stand on a lot of issues. You know and I probably know where you stand on abortion. I probably know where you stand on guns. I probably know where you stand on climate change is like kids, so weird little thing that you do when you say that you know when you say well, you know I'm a God fearing Christian! Oh me, too! Ok now I can predict you better
it's like it's like you're, all wearing the same decoder ring yes, yes, yeah! Well! That is what a lot of it is a lot of. It is whether or not you believe in God or not the saying that God's real and the worshipping God in the talking about God is just letting everybody know that they can predict. You know they know where you can't like if you're a gentleman, if you're a gentleman you but I will My suit on and pair of pants, I can fairly. Really likely predict that you're going to be reasonably behaved, yeah you're, a gentleman. You know if you're a Christian, if you're a person who calls himself a christian- and you know- Well, we go to the Bio go to church every Sunday and I like to read the Bible, and I am a christian yeah and people automatically go okay, I kind of know we from I can. I can see where you are, and now I like that you can predict to me because you like me better, so we don't have to Yes, no all right now reinforcing those patterns in your head.
Yeah I'll, say some things that I've repeated things that I've heard other people say about God and Jesus and yeah, and it's a nice way to kill time. That way, you know believing in God and going to church, and it's a great you kill time and you know until death nullifies all meaning. Well, I think the community thing of it is a good thing. Yeah there's, there's some There's some really powerful, like bonding experiences that people have when they agreed to be humbled together you're describing curling. Curling. Other great made another great idea: that's a sport! Look if you or that there's two: you can see words in Canada, yeah, very popular hunting, curling yeah, that's right and there's no way he's curling is one of the top yeah. You cannot rise to the tops of curl, without humbling yourself. Since you humble yourself the minute you say, I'm gonna go right,
of that Brea big smile on your face said this week, but yeah I'm tried curling and it's not easy. No, it's hard, which still does make it a sport. I made fun of a Newfoundland and they got so mad at me. Yeah. The lady on the curling, the arena, the theater, where sat like how these pictures of curlers on the wall, I just could not stop on them. Yeah, hey they were legitimately upset MIKE, is a preposterous endeavor yeah. You know, and I know what you're sliding a rock on the yeah yeah used to be a reason to drink. That's what curling was for everybody. We had to get a still, it is wasted and you don't fall very far on the US, because roadie squatting, right and the other people are leaning against brooms. That's right! You have to burn to lean against it's great. It's also like when you fall and ice. It's almost always funny, always yeah, never, yeah, no one's, no, never underwriting catches itself. Not yet you don't
like gently falling, you could try to get up. It's good to know that you don't fall elegantly on that right now. You can even do hiking and slip a little and catch yourself not, but even like when you're watching the NHL and you'll see players that will just fall down. Yeah links for no reason. It's hilarious. These are the best gators in the world and they're just going to follow up with us he's a professional athlete I ran the with Volkswagen. I could not come over there right, but he just fell. How long has curling been around a hundred years? It's a Scottish, I'm sure it's a Scottish where, where they used to use actual rocks they'd find in fields yeah complete on. Frozen, lyrics, cuz, that's only kind they haven't gotten yeah are frozen and then the Loch Ness monster can around there's a lot of he's a wonderful. Curler David! Are you scottish? I believe I'm from Yes, I got the. I got his own child heart scottish. I mean there's a lot of scottish people in Canada, so you can see what a curling would be popular yeah. Yeah, very, very scottish country. Canada strange
that's. Why there's so many gourds and crags Craig's date that Gordon Gordon Gordon Tell scottish word right yet Gordon Gordon and of course Gordie Howe everyone named their kids gourd it was a guy named Greg sixties. I mean that was his first name, Grigor Greg I know gun in greater greater local sp fights in the UFC. Okay, an animal. I am kind of greater problems. Savage said just give one interesting UFC memory for me, please. I watched the very first UFC one with a I had a trip at the time and we invited scout troop. It wasn't comedy troupe that we dress by scouts, but we invited Neil Patrick Harris over. It was twenty years old at the time he was in town. We just met him and he came over and soon as the sumo wrestler got his face kicked in and his spit a tooth.
I believe he was like I'm outta here I gotta get out and we made him stay and watch the whole thing. And media and that's what made him day. Well that running the story. I don't know if that's true man of somebody or something happened, yeah, maybe dropped said yeah. I don't think head. He looked like he was all as a kid. Something went wrong or right pending on if you're his boyfriend yeah, imagine expensive, he's a good boyfriend really well but the problem is my husband, husband, yeah, that guys really into him. But thank God. You watch that fight that time, yeah Thank God, in other words, could ever found waste your time to check yeah. Who knows what could happen oh god yeah. So you have to get remarried or just pretend we never well. We never got wind Chrissy and I never got around to enforce car Pratt. It paperwork beautiful yeah. I was a
yeah we're yeah. We saw we separated, which we actually filed for divorce once but screwed up the paperwork for somehow yeah and then yeah and then- and then we just never got around to it again. Just didn't fix it and now yeah. I'm not you know, I'm not, I'm not good with organizing we just so we were just separated, for you know it's funny. Very organized she is yeah seems like maybe maybe Jackie, maybe she's, the one who wasn't willing to let go. You know she was telling you something yeah she's. Clearly I think Dave nearly yeah. That's what yeah. That's what like all the guys on vacation with them. When they were divorced like divorced, they would go as it together. Yeah. We all our family trips did. They did all family for the whole team working well, the first two years we went that we didn't do much now. Those are the dark years, yeah the dark. Yes, but then yeah yeah? That's why we have kept talking over.
Trips, together with we go to Hawaii, it's like they were still, and so when we finally did get back together, really just so mostly about the convenience of our friends. It was like you know. This is going to make everyone else. Is life easier, really, yeah 'cause? They don't Do I we don't have to go to houses, yeah yeah, which I hated it so canadian of you yeah so polite. That's what a canadian duds nappies doesn't get the v first because the floor. How long, how long have you been married ten years and you've been in yet that's the anytime you've ever married, thank you baby Jesus, oh my god. Yes, yeah yeah on that it's working yeah! It's it it's great! Now in the works, it's great yeah! I was so people don't do it. It's too risky yeah! You could do the fifty percent of people don't make it yeah. It's it's a it's, not a good great success. Would you drive a car if you knew that fifty percent
likely, you would die in a crash right yeah I mean there's an institution that made sense when you're only going to live to be forty sort. Well, it makes Hence there's some parts of it. That makes sense. The problem is that it's become a business speaking with business, for people to try to squeeze like that. I'll, never forget trying to talk, fill in getting divorced I will just give her half and he it's not half its two slash three I am the fucking lawyers get a third, you give away, two slash three and he was fucking freaking out about it. Yeah and it's true and he could have lived nicely on the third he should've. Given her that I don't think that I mean the word was that that's why she killed him that he was leaving? that that was. He was finally leaving now and then that's when she killed them, but When we were together with him, I was always days when he would come to the set and just be just in Hell, yeah. Well what yeah- and he wouldn't will there be this? He just be on the floor of the studio and it like
yeah ranting, yeah about about you know he he's been living in my boat yeah. I lived in his boat in it was rough ma'am yeah, and then you come back like a day later interview, I'm back together with my blushing bride. That's exact quote Nyquil and all just begun, although none of it, Everything is right. There was not one good marriage on the show. You know, like everyone was going through a terrible marriage at the time I was proud that I was one person was on antidepressants super psyched. About that. I wasn't on the pills therapy. I wasn't in, I probably needed it. I think we all did yeah, but yeah I mean I remember you started against the second season. We came back and Steve Route had gotten divorced, you know, and he was the first one I mean I think everyone figured it be me or Phil
yeah, we get divorced, Ross, Steve and then more right, but Steve. Yes, we now know how bad it was for Steve. I guess it's hard out. There tarred tart to make it hard to hard for people sit together, be nice to each other. Yeah now takes does they say it takes work, but it actually takes work yeah, it does take work. We wait. We wait until you're an adult just give us a good move. Yeah yeah, most people get married before they're adults, yes, I think you should wait until you know who the folk you are, and still I'm still guessing yeah even to this day, I'm guessing who I am literally my dad. Almost on his deathbed told me: don't do it. You can't get married until your and that's a good move yeah. He I didn't. I am got married at thirty, but he was like. Don't do it yeah, do it before thirty, because you don't know who you are, you don't know, what you what's going on. Will you seen too many predatory marriages,
I've seen women marry men that don't really like 'cause? They know the man his money and I've seen I've seen the opposite. It's such a weird thing when you enter into a contractual agreement about romance like it's, it's it's not just I. I love you, you love me. Let's, let's have a so liberation of our love and let's invite our friends over and tell everybody we've need to engage each other in this very special commitment. But then you start bringing and lawyers yeah right. Then it gets weird and then you know you have weird state by state law. Where there's common law marriages. If you live with someone ten years and they might have where humanity went wrong, was when the first guys said, I'm going to be a lawyer like that was his decision, I'm looking around and I think yeah lot of ugliness in the world yeah once they get out of work on. It was the first lawyer with most there's a fear is less loss right. The first lawyers had have been priests right,
I would guess so. Yeah I mean the the laws affairs. Actually we're we're. Basically, lawyers aren't. What is a fair say that the jewish, the jewish priests, okay, makes sense. That does make a lot of sense. Yeah, not a lot of my relatives. Yeah yeah like when did it become a thing where it was, you would go to law school and it was a respectable occupation and it would be good to know a good lawyer yeah. I think those things started out as not respectable and people did them because they didn't have any other like choice. Yeah and again, they realized all they're, making all the money. You know and then became respectable yeah
once they figured out. There's all these legalese and loopholes in the system is ways to extract money. Yeah just gotta be weaselly about it like that, and then they invent a whole language to exclude anyone else from understanding it yeah. I think they billed hourly back then still yeah, but then again time, hadn't been modified sells what they bill by an hour. It was basically decided by community standards. You know when was time con when the railroads came in Is that true? Well, that's one! That's one time zones were created time zones created by the railroads everybody on a different time. Every town every town said its own time like why, like you could have you could drive? You know you can drive from. You know like from Denver to Fort Collins, and the two cities will be in completely to times wow and how you sync up your watch with the town clock yeah, you have the yeah the clock in the main square and they'll give the client what at the time, but when they start having to schedule railroads they real as well hi all these towns.
And then they started having huge competitions to invent ways. Synchronizing clocks between cities, so I did use a sundial to get the initial reading. I think they really was just a simple as will call this midnight or will call this noon. You know and then just went from there and the glove the clocks for that accurate. So time would shift over time so it became the, and that was like in like the nineteenth century, was a a huge move to try and find a way to synchronize clocks, and that drove. Kind of drove a lot of the beginnings of technology. Do you remember when you were a kid you would call phone number to get. The time always asks for sure the exact time the weather as well yeah. Yeah, but then time give them. Time is exactly yeah nine and thirty five seconds, Canada at one hundred o'clock. Every day they had the national time tone right now in
at the secession of the long beep. It will be exactly one hundred pm on tv by one hundred pm. I don't know why, but it has They would do it at one hundred pm everyday. The CBC would broadcast atone boo, and that was the time for the whole country wow. I never would have guessed that time zones are created by the railroads, but it totally makes, kind of a schedule without 'cause before that, we went anywhere. You know Arizona's still doesn't to daylight savings time. They're, like you yeah, that's stupid, they're allowed to do that. Yep yep, yep wow, if you drive from like. If you drive from Nevada to Arizona, you're missing you the only state is there another say that doesn't wonder I think so when I'm, where there good for them out, yeah they're good for them what they want their an island we stole Hawaii, that's right
then that island is there's yeah. That's a fucking country that we occupy with hotels. You feeling, under there yeah that's how its own feeling the rest of it was given to us by God. Yeah, that's true, it's manifest destiny, correct the rest of it, but not Hawaii, no that came less late, it was late in the game is no single, like there's no state where the people are so clearly like their ethnicity, so clearly defined The polynesian look yeah awful if they're there North Dakota or floor, Are there some? No it's! It's like they're, not from the European. No, no, no heritage, don't get this in. There is an interesting debate going on about what is California moves towards permanent daylight? The site is now when that mean we always every day we get to get up an hour. Early, yes everyday is earlier earlier and earlier and earlier,
We have Arizona's on permanent standard time in the year round, daylight savings times, followed by Hawaiian the territories of the American Samoa Guam. And minor outlying islands fools well. I say California, let's be really bold and go for permanent daylight. Like like like what, in the last exactly just give up on night well and then just everybody wants to kill themselves when it's night time there's an interesting debate going on in Hawaii. Right now is to what is an invasive species b because so much of the wildlife in Hawaii was brought over. Yes, so there's some debate on certain islands where they want to eliminate the wild pigs 'cause, they say, they're an invasive species, and then the people are saying that will hold on as we kind of came after a lot of these wild pigs. Yeah, like a lot of the wild pigs, were dropped off by pirates like
grits and people that were in a boating like that were traveling by boat across the world. They would drop off goats and pigs. On various and so they would have something to hunt when they would come back for food 'cause. They knew that this would be a stop along the route. Which is clever. It is clever. It ruined a lot of islands, especially the goats. Yes destroyed a lot of islands. I just now there's in Hawaii there's a lot of mongoose: oh really yeah. They brought mongoose in point, I forget what it was to control the rabbit population that other at things to control their hands that came in from again from shipping and then the manga, start another monger, just all over the place. Yeah mongoose. Examples of Alaska holiday and I made a joke about. You know I'm looking for beavers 'cause. I didn't think they were beavers in Alaska 'cause, it's too cold. They said no. Last ten years we've got tons of beavers. Because of global warming, realtors everywhere yeah they're moving yeah beavers are migrating N Alaska is a fascinating place, there. You you go there.
Number. You have never seen more aggressive mosquitoes. It's they know they only have two months to live yeah. So you get out your Car they swarm you like a cloud. It's crazy! I've never seen anything like it. In my life, you would think tropical wet that's where the mosquitoes yeah no Alaska, yep, they're, ferocious and they're huge yeah yeah. I've never actually go there in November. I think I am doing doing that touring with the whose live anyway, like Improv Tour, so whose live anyway, like a take off of you, the news line. Yes, it anyway yeah. As of yet Greg Proops and Jeff to let go and is Greg and Jeff, and Joel Marie, ok and me. I guess as Bill Murray's brother yeah, yeah yeah. So it's like a rotating, so those three guys the core and then is that Ryan Stiles myself drew Carey and and Chip Esten to rotate through and around the legs of the tour to carry might be the nicest person that,
ever lived. I don't know him well, he might be the nicest guy over and fucking put out of work. Did he remember it was the Jews Rachel, finally got Newsradio canceled. Well, I'm not so nice. Now, no, no! We never did a whole year after that. I think that was what it was. I don't think they wanted to do it anymore after that yeah. I think I raise our ratings tank when we, when they put us up against her care high ratings, are always yeah. It's the most amazing things that the ratings were really great. Once we got cancelled and then it was on tv like like they would show the reruns of people go. This is a funny show they found it's true. I remember Lou Morton, one of our writers showing up at the he'd show, but the read Taylor ABLE, with a different number on a shirt, every When we were in the real or were falling apart, yeah yeah yeah the numbers number. Ninety eight out of a hundred shows it was one day noble said I goes out real he's like yeah like have the shirt made yeah yeah,
I would draw it basically, basically sweatshirt with a marker on it, that's hilarious, so he would just show up with this fucking number on his shirt, and I was like eighty eight is like yes source of pride when you can still be hanging on now one year that I thought we weren't going to get canceled this year we got cancelled. I was like well we're doing pretty good yeah show ratings were alright yeah. The five year show right five, but much like the the whole like we never really hit one hundred episodes. We got like nine thousand seven hundred and ninety seven because NBC didn't own it. They did with a bunch of shows they didn't own. They do that on purpose. That year, the nation of four five shows they canceled at ninety seven episodes really yeah because they because there's you know a hundred, it goes into right just to be the rule yeah, but now syndication anything doesn't really exist anymore,
well, the weirdest one was the Charlie Sheen model that they did with that anger. Management show where they divide the whole new system, nine thousand and ten yeah. If the first couple episodes do well fuckit, we order one hundred yes and they produce them all in the year. Yes, they just saw mash them together, they just they wrote it within five and it's and started filming yeah. I like filming in writing on the fly. Everything was dog Charlie makes a and they shall it forms of the week. The eight Charlie crisis in so this list, yeah yeah, thousands of dollars with the crack into his account yeah. They had one of those old timey ice, guys that you still over ice the less. Cuz, you can see you can't get crack out of an atm machine, yet not anymore. You can get pot out of one now yeah you get pot out of a dispensary in California. That's good yeah! Well, I don't know where else but there's they do have Marijuana dispensary machines, yeah yeah,
after, like show some sort of ideally provide day, yeah yeah proof of age. But I guess, if you just have your: if you have a password Rice answer a passport or driver's license like. If you could read a passport, they have a machine that read the passport at the airport. The you know when you go through. If you have like go global entry, they have to face recognition tend to. I know the clear yeah I got up print one. That's nice to global entry is the best joke. You have to fuck with that giant line yeah. Just thank God that I got this stupid. Tsa global entry is great 'cause. It comes with t, a yeah. I guess the TSA angry again in the clear it makes me mad yeah, the ultimate combo is TSA pre and clear 'cause. They just do the fingerprints boom and then they push it right into the line, something like venereal disease in nice. People walk you? They walk you all the way clear, clear, not to pee pre, clear the nice people walk you all the way over to the
I want to hear but yeah yeah you can you have the option of actually pissing on the people of your passing through this series? Is your feet? 'cause? They don't have any shoes on my God. I have to get. This sounds fantastic, I'm going to get that, but then it yeah I don't go out of the car. Then you have to travel. So I don't know coming to Canada, but that doesn't really matter country yeah, but yet still in this country yeah, but you could always go through the woods to get to. Canada is true people. We talked so the border is one hundred hundred yard. Clearcut is most of the border with Canada is just one hundred yard clear cut in the forest, and so it's it's actually but yeah they just down. It's like one hundred yards wide and that's the border. All across it's not again. Not only is it it's, it's actually easier to cross the than the surrounding area because around here is yeah. No, do they actually maintain that cut yeah, really so year someone's job is to cut down the trees, for
one hundred yard space between the United States and Canada, yeah why's, most of the canadian border. Just to let you know, if you're a criminal you cross here, additional charges will apply because now you fled the country. Well, have you ever seen that you've seen the footage of refugees coming into Canada he's meeting them and they're going. The mounties are just there going now. We understand that when you cross over here, we will be arresting you there, that's the line. Wow, that's crazy, the 49th parallel it says: yeah wow, that's fucking, crazy! I bet that's a need to so they're there America there's were your terror, should last opposite of a wall. Yeah, that's an actual! Coming past actually yeah, that shows how much we like Canada, yeah or how little
I think about it. Making it easier to cross will make it really like it super easy. It's easier than one hundred yards stretches like ah, don't trip a relax yourself. You're about to hit paradise at most at most of the visa. Overstays are canadian, which is the The bulk of illegal immigration in America is Canadians, overstaying, their visas right. I've done that. It's a giant part, right I mean we all overstay our welcome british folks to definitely yeah yeah, but no one cares, but the thing is good think about Canada. There's a lot of people in this country from a lot of other countries that just keep their fucking mouth shut. Yeah. No one knows when, whenever they say that they know like they, take an estimate on how illegal aliens! Might that's our gas? No, yes, guest have no yeah Well, it's got like was just thinking. You actually had Brian Cox on. Yes,
So we talk with the the the size of the universe. Yes, most of it's just a guess, yeah, based on the the observable universe based on the number of galaxies, they can see they're just guessing how many galaxies there are. I think that's the same illegal immigration you're just going well, probably if we can be more likely to be accurate with eight illegal immigration, then you are with stars. I don't know yeah, I think the I think the problem is now butcher this, but I think it's that literally we don't have the capability to look past thirteen. Point whatever billion years. Yes, the lady can't really look. Yes, look and they go under on this. Just like a big space, and then you go eighteen more billion years, back thriving community of galaxies other galaxies distance in time, but then the just the sheer vastness of the sky they've only actually like, like looked at a fraction of it right.
I'm talking to a guy like him is so amazing because you realize, like ok, well, there's different kinds of humans, yeah, there's humans that are actually studying these insanely complicated equations that are trying to prove that the very nature of reality itself, yeah and then there's Champs like Maine, we just listening going. Ok, ok, so real real, big, big, big yeah! Ok, that's enough time. How do we know it started? There was a bang. Ok The bank mister Smarty pants, but I guess but he's innovative and that he is an astrophysicist and he like a young David Cassidy and he's a musician, does he mentioned it? Yet he's dreamy yeah he's a great guy, have a crush on him. I had a question:
I got super sweetheart of a guy to mint like not just never met a buddy of I love watching on tv. I did his podcast once the live version of it, which is interesting, looks great, and it apparently has a new show. That's coming here that I I'll go with his wife, so she don't come with yeah I'd love to its. He has a gigantic screen behind him filled with interlocking led screens that, apparently it's like this on EVA Blee, gorgeous high definition, version of the cosmos. So it's created by the same people who did that movie with which one interstellar interstellar created by and it's like that, accurate like the Cgi's, actually accurate. My heart into you know like with his type of equations yeah. He worked at CERN. You know he's like he's amazing, amazing, yeah ten is legit beautiful man yeah nice long road, we are here. That is what is. This is our third Cassidy. Is that he's in a band in the eighties,
oh yeah? No, he was legit rockstar yeah. I mean genius, rockstar, yeah, good luck, guys traffic is trying to suck your wife got a real problem. I think he was in Scritti Politti yeah. I think exactly the band. Was I don't know someone should shirt that wire astrophysicist getting cuter, I mean yeah, I mean you start even hawking, then you get to what's his name green right. You know Neil Degrasse Tyson you know he's a handsome boy. That's a fellow intern sure yeah good, laugh used. You didn't have to pretty in the old days now position of science communicator is so effective, is so because most of that stuff so dry and so difficult to to wrap your head around. But I don't need someone yeah someone, a coroner's aching. Yes, someone engaging, they can deliver. That's like with Brian he's so nice like that, as he sees like so smiley and enjoys it so much. He loves talking about so much that it becomes infectious
there's a lot of that stuff. That's very difficult to follow. When you try to read the papers. Yeah. I read Stephen Hawking books and I would zone out yet so much while I was trying to comprehend what was going. I had Lawrence Krauss on and I was trying to get him to explain some certain formulas and the even when he's explaining them to you. It doesn't seem click like you We have to it's one of those things you it's like someone trying to explain french words to you, but speaking to you in French yeah yeah like looking, but I don't speak French like yeah. Well, your fault yeah like let's say soon, as you say, infinity, so that that's only a mathematical idea. Yeah I mean how can anything be infinite? I mean I know Well, there's any math. You can say it like. You can say that a straight line goes on forever and two parallel lines.
Never intersect. Pie is theoretically, but not now prince. Why is that difficult to grasp, though? That's the real question like why is why do we need everything to be defined by a very obvious beginning and and end because it's it everything we here it beginning in beginning it logically, because we experience time even time doesn't is not experience. Yeah. The same way time is experienced at all if you're not sentient, true the it off it's different yeah, but yeah. It's the always wondered if, like there was a reason why we wanted things to have a beginning and an end like. Is it because we have our life in our life? Has it and then all the lives of the people we know yeah. Definitely send both. Do we learn? we want beginning end or we terrified beginnings and ends tattoo
a lot of it has that's why we create you, know. Gods and religions is causing the idea that that life ends and then it's all been for nothing. It's terrifying to people! There's a little bit of that yeah. There's a little bit of doing it to create order in the community and there's a little bit of people find mushrooms and they need explanation. We affect their feelings like at rings, are constructed in such a way that we need an end yeah I need now, or else you don't under and where am I now, I have there's no in my very uninformed theory, which is that first off that everything is meaningless but that only the brain damaged are capable of can conceiving of Meaninglessness 'cause, our brains, are meaning machines that we evolved and it gave us an evolutionary advantage that we give meaning to things like. I said this is the table because we say it's a table: it's not able to
at that's. Why can't we just get out and walk around on a look at that yeah because it is from a mutual agreement yeah. We agree. This is a table right and that kind of meaning. Let us as our lives. Let us be better hunters You know what you know constantly occurs to me and bothers me is that we decide not to drive into each other cuz we've painted a little line on a route. No middle yeah, we've all agreed not to cross that line. That say we ascribe meaning to objects, and that gave us an advantage over other animals and so brains just evolved, and then we but we realized we're going to die. We go well. There's gotta be some meaning there too. So then we had to create myths that where we go, create a meeting about our lives. That's a very The dangers loop of there's no meaning to everything, and nothing has no mean nothing- has meaning that that's a dangerous loop for a person psychologically, because you can get stuck in that
You can really, but I don't think you can, because it's impossible to conceive of unless you are seriously brain damaged. Well, no, I don't think it's impossible to conceive it's it's you won't! You can Matt, you can intellectually think about it, but you can't you can't grasp it doesn't live living in the now kind of the same as life has no meaning no ' 'cause you're, not thinking about the future. No, no you're, not thinking about the fact that has no meaning yeah you're doing now, with your enjoy the meaning you're going life you're joining experience, you're enjoying each interaction with people enjoying your thoughts. I think that the problem that people have is like. What's the point, that's problem that what's that, what's the point, thought and that's a weird loop and that's the thing. Is it doesn't really matter 'cause you're, going to create a point anyway, like It's like there's. I was an existential psychology. They had there's like five different ways: people ascribe meaning. Metaphysical, meaning reproductive meaning, biological, meaning or creative, meaning like the works, you do
right that somehow you live on in all these different ways. You like a lot of atheists. Tend to be artists who believe that they live on through their work and which is totally stupid is believing in God. It is definitely silly. I mean obviously someone's going to enjoy your work, but I think the real meaning is in creating the work and then the fact that people can enjoy it. If you're doing because you want to live on forever, you're, more yeah, good luck with that, because there's no there's no forever of the whole planet, but I just think meaning is an inescapable product of the human mind, yeah, the exam when examples like like they did a study where they went into the jungles. Of the Amazon to people who have never any contact with the modern world and they drew circle with two dots and a curved line, and everyone sees a face, Everyone sees a face, the only people who don't see these are people who have been brain damaged and can no longer form the meaning of those lines interesting. So there are people who, suffer breakdowns in that correspond to their own artwork because, like their artwork, is
very similar to our artwork in the fact that stick figures and they represent humans in circle, represents ahead yeah all that stuff, but they probably haven't. Had the happy face, t shirt. I had lunch with Erich VON Daniken last week. Oh my god. Yes, very interesting, very weird! he's the guy who wrote chariots of the gods, all not yeah. I live now in his eighties now staple book at our house and he was showing us slides. What's the real story there, I was wondering mostly nonsense, unfortunately, yeah yeah. Mostly mostly it is evidence of lost civilizations, ancient civilizations that were incredibly advanced. I follow the work of Graham Hancock and Randall Carlson and a few other people that are being proven actually correct. More and more almost a daily basis by new discoveries that show that that civil
asian predates what we initially thought with back for yeah yeah, the initial thought was that somewhere around the great pyramids, which is like two thousand five hundred b, see that was about as good as anybody gotten you go up back to like ancient Sumer, which is about six one thousand years ago, and that's basically, it they are saying. Is that no there was most likely a reset a global reset of civilization due to a cataclysmic disaster and there's a shit ton of evidence, there's map CIV evidence in the form of this nuclear glass that exist when there's an asteroid impacts and also there's a guy named Doctor Robert Shock Schoch was on the first guy to propose this. It's actually when he freaked me out. He said there was a mass corona Liege Rection that most likely cause- Lightning storms like a rain storm but lightning like that. Much I'd like nurse fine warning the ground and the only people that survivor people could get under cover. They can get into that's yeah! May
as extension of yeah, sixty plus percent of the large mammals in a very short window of time almost instantaneously and with America did did the the end of the ice age like ten thousand plus years ago, there was a mile high ice in most of North America. Right most of North America is covered in ice, then gone, and all these all these areas. All these points of interest point to this one. One moment in time that, somewhere between ten and twelve thousand years ago, that some big event happened and that most likely just crippled civilization, and then people rebuild whatever people were around that. That occurs also that the found like just looking at DNA that all of humanity at one point got wiped out, except for like one village, there was only that everyone is of everyone has descended from the same group of about five
well. There was a super volcano that erupted somewhere around seventy thousand years ago. They think this is pre dating this cataclysmic disaster twelve thousand years ago that they are pretty sure. Human beings down to a few thousand folks wow We think there's that one then like I want to say it's: where is that that Super volcano there's. A super volcano that knocked everybody down will find it yeah we got one under Yosemite or Yellowstone Yellowstone Yellowstone, Caldara Yellowstone, is going to get us all every six to eight hundred thousand years. It blows where do right. That's why I don't go camping. That might not be the worst let's go! Let's go camping, be over that way. Yeah that way when it ends it ends quick. You don't want to be living in New York now just a cloud of dust yeah, that's the worst watching people eat homeless. Folks in history, yeah there's no, not now in the place, yeah! Well, there's also like things that fly through space and zip by you know.
They're, just missing just find these things yeah, let's think! Well, it's things! They're, fine, Danica thing! I remember as a kid going my problem. They kept showing these massive paint. They can only be seen from the sky. So therefore there must have been drawn for your aliens that I can come now, if you believe, God looking down on you You'Re- going to draw big paintings for God to look at right. So you don't need that. But now, but now I'm more. The I think I've become obsessed with lately is. This is skepticism about ufos yeah. That's why I want to talk to you about this, because you told me that you've become obsessed with ufos, yeah L yep completely, and it's a lever yeah totally really yeah. I totally believe the UFO Phenomena is real. I don't know what it is, but it's totally it has to be re. Some things happen. Why is that? Because there's just way too much evidence that Israel, whatever uh well raid,
evidence that the the F sixteen locked on a UFO that footage and also just like, like know the friend of ours- I don't know if you wanted say it, but her father was an air traffic controller and he told her that said. Yeah every air traffic controller has seen something you know, another friend whose father was in a commercial pilot, an she said, yeah my dad said, every single pilot has seen something and they've all been told, not say anything about it. We have a couple of friends that say they were abducted, yeah, yeah, Dr One is a little easier to wrap your head around because when you're sleeping, the brain is producing all sorts of endogenous psychedelic. Chemicals, all of these experiences happen when you're sleeping almost all these. When these people abducted or taken from their beds, which is when they're dreaming
This is like there's little some real, clear, easy steps to follow up on a fall, Occam's razor and not you not get crazy, but not so so, but it does not get like Barney and Betty Hill and all the people that are affected will fully conscious and that and that remember without hypnotherapy, like I'm, not sure about the induction phenomenon. But I I don't know Barney and Betty Hill. I know the story yeah, I don't know them yeah, so I would have to know them because yeah there's there's a lot of people that I've talked like. I did a show for Sci Fi Call Joe Rogan questions everything yeah now ones that show that you're, show cured me of a lot of my nonsense with with conspiracy. Is we used to talk about? Yes, yeah that several down all the time yeah yeah, but I I needed to actually study so for six months. That's basically, all I did hi into read people and like Bigfoot believer UFO believers and the one thing that they have in common, is
They all seem to be kind of loste and dependent upon this thing being real. Instead of being object, there's. Only one, lady that I interviewed that saw Bigfoot not really seemed to be telling the truth, but I think she saw bare bears walk on two feet all the time they do it all. The time is video footage. If you could find it all the time and she was in the Pacific Northwest, which is incredibly dense, woods you something you glimpse it look. I was hunt once in Canada and Alberta, and I thought I saw walls for like two seconds. It was a squirrel. Okay. At the very biggest world will not screw and I just saw firm where I saw her, and I was because it's really again as well as for us, because I was looking for fuckin' wolves because I was like 'cause. I know we did see one wolf across the so it's either Wolf or Coyote was hard to tell 'cause. It was at dusk. It was very dark out, but um when you're looking for something, you think everything is that thing.
Looking yeah so like affectations, huge thought that fuckin' squirrel was a wolf. That's funny, well expectation, perception are very linked. Yeah will it will result. They found that fifty end of everything you see is a product of memory. Yes, so that when you observe some, I think they've done Fmf Mris and that most of the activity in the brain in the memory center is not in the visual sectors. Interesting only about fifty percent of the activities in the visual you know you at all crazy. The other thing is very I. When I was a kid I once saw Carl Sagan speak at. Do you have today at the University of Toronto- and I was like you know, fourteen, but he did an equation on the board of the possibility of alien life other than us in the universe, and it came to the smallest. I mean he spent the whole time reading on this chalkboard. It was fast and
they actually came up with a number at the end, and it was such a small. He says there is. There is something out there, but they are so far away the yeah, the l that unless they can go faster than the speed of light, which he said was impossible time, yep the seventies yeah one there's no way, we've seen them. That's what he said so of some other beings have conquered the speed, a light thing, then maybe we could see them yeah, but that's the thing with Zap primer. This skepticism in general, is like that it. You know like, like this captain skeptics of the of the nineteenth century, the ones you said germs don't exist right, because we can't see them and and people said germs did exist were ridiculed and laughed out of the trade.
And I agree with you completely just 'cause. You can't see it or it is happening, doesn't mean it can't happen. And since Sagan's day there'd been no exoplanets discovered. Then We now know that there are literally trillions and trillions of share planet earth like planets yeah, but they did they just speculated as to the existence of them outside of our solar system before the real problem is that if some there's a leap and uh sleep, a technological leap that opens the doors to massive innovation. That, once this happens, This happens in this and then all this, stuff sort of exponentially expands in terms of technological possibilities. All you would need is a few one hundred years, and you have an unrecognizable set of technology. Yeah sure you know, I mean
We were talking about certain. I mean you know anti matter. I do that they're still trying to figure out now. That's an unnamed insane source of energy, Charlie I've, never even experience yeah yeah I'll have with them with us Grain of sand yeah I can run a city and that big yeah and then there's also the theory. There is reason when that spacetime itself doesn't exist so that the speed of light barrier becomes more because that is the guest is the holographic quantum hologram fear condom holographic theory of the universe, yeah that is actually out of its book. I can't remember holographic universe, that is yeah, I think so and it, but the idea that the universe is basically just a geometry that that You look at it from a certain angle, seems three dimensional right and it falls on folds into itself. So you could, and it's a rental through that's the worm hole well, it's it's not even. That is the idea that space time
is an illusion, is, and that You really exist, and that's why you know like entanglement, is possible You know the idea that you know spooky action at a distance, yes, that yeah going on to their enrollment yeah, but that the reason that you know You know these atoms Adams on opposite ends of the universe, can be each other instantaneously at this moment is 'cause they're not really at an opposite ends of the universe there really right next to each other. It just seems like there are opposite ends of the universe, 'cause AAR perceive is basically based on what we have to to to stay alive on this planet whose arm meager little chimp brains, trying to all these things that are around us all the time, so we put them into this sort of three dimensional. Banks of movement in distance and and that the entire time the entire universe could be a compact thing. Yeah that project itself, like a hologram onto
screen, I love these kind of conversations. 'cause, I'm clearly too stupid to really understand what I don't understand. I don't listen anything I just said, and I don't understand you too, so how stupid does that make me? Well, we don't understand each other, so this is where all the same yeah that's like. I think it would be interesting to do a documentary something about, but from about you, apologies one. It is the assumption that there extraterrestrial is an assumption, but I think it intrigues me is, the power of ridicule to silence, even the most intelligent people in our community from exam something like the ridicule kept doctors from accepting germs sure 'cause they didn't want to. They didn't want to be ridiculed by their peers, and even now you, people that will like Michael Shermer will cling to the most absurd explanations for a phenomenon like the F16 radar footage uh
What are the? What was Michael Shermer? I can remember it, but it was. It was pretty. It really went to great lengths that entailed having to basically diminish any respect. You have for any of the people who reported on the events add, to go and add going character assassination in order to eliminate it. Yeah, he was the best way to kill an idea piece of professional skeptic, and I, like Michael a lot and he's been on the podcast many times we actually had him debate, Randall, Carlson and Graham Hancock about these ain't. Civilizations it wasn't very good for what's the number for some funky once his skeptics are believers well, the problem is there instead reasons battle even skip, the problem is being a skeptic itself, yeah stupid way to look at the world. It's a chat, you're, actually sure about something I mean you should be objective right would not be sceptical being Optical Center channel now but know,
for sure that that's not true, but it serves a massive purpose for people that really don't understand things and he can explain to you in with actual science as long The actual science is being used and it's not care fascination is not mockery. It's not it's not! There's certain people that are just debunkers, then called themselves, skeptics but they're, not looking at things like. Oh, maybe that is effective. Maybe that is healthy. Maybe that is interesting no, they don't look at it that way they are looking at their trying to pick it apart and that's fine if you can pick it apart. But if you cannot, you have to be objective about in fact that oh well! This is a very interesting phenomenon and this is what know about science. Is that in? This is what we know about this thing and yeah right now we have the. We have a weird conundrum. Did you ever it's of the gods yeah and did he content? Was he
He believes a hundred percent he's all is still in all, and I asked him the first thing I asked him. I said: what is it MAS yeah? That's really have to go plug yeah, the for first thing. I asked him was what is the most compelling piece of evidence that you know and he to to this Mayen Mayan Stone Plaque. That's in Pulang have you ever seen and it's is in the book. That's a god. Another one of their former kings that is lying on his back and he's looks like he's. Moving. Some Jamie said we could find that thing. It's really cool carving that they found. That looks, like there's a guy who is in a seat, and it looks like this fire behind his back and you could say like you just say that he's manipulating controls on a ship and he's you know, shooting a rocket into the habit I would like to see what the the main
Instream version of that is 'cause it also it could just be art. Now imagination yeah. It could be that they new about certain things being propelled by fire there. It is yep, that's it So if you see this mean that's a big ask, stretch to say that guys in a spaceship, I don't know what the fuck that is he Download can alter kind of he could yeah. But it doesn't look like he's looking through an eyepiece right, that's true! But what does that mean Is it a telescope? Maybe you just got a telescope, but maybe it's just an astronomer yeah. It is possible, I don't think they had telescopes I don't think it telescope was even invented till they even have glass at that zero. No, I don't know if the Mayans did well but That was his number. One piece of evidence was one on one. It's kind of silly me when we were kids in the seventies, the you know, big foot, you know and Terry to the gods and everything was so new,
you, look at this image, look at the bottom of it, even the part where the flame supposed to be coming out from below him, which point. Where is the flame? I guess the flu is the should the very very bottom, but I mean I'm not even sure I buy that if you're going to draw Are you do a really shitty job of that's your fire that doesn't really look like fire to me? No, like could be anything ornate seat right, something right if, if that's fire like what is all the stuff around 'em. Let's all that stuff is that that looks kind of mechanical, though right looks like there's bolts does it they have a fire god. Maybe they drew fire, God looks like a monkey trying to be faced with monkeys doesn't teddies. Now I get it right and then the market is at its fifteenth. That's the first hooters like arms. Actually right yeah it does, it could be armed so that's the point. Is it's so open to interpretation? There's so much that you could see if you're looking to see what I do see is this? Guy who's
he's reclining EOD he's chilling and it looks like he's looking through something. What's that thing hanging across him, you see that thing across his arm. That is, but here's the thing. I don't think anybody knows what the fuck that is, so for him to say that this was the number one most compelling evidence, the more people getting high at this oh yeah, so I mean that could be just some guy got high and LSD carve. Some they were. They were taking different kinds of plants that had lysergic acid. In them there was I had a great tour in Chicha Nizza. We went through and we hired a guide, who is a professor who is fantastic, it was really good. He was really loved, mayan civilization, super passionate about it, and then we found out that I had read a bunch of books on and he was really excited about it. So he took us to these all these different areas, but was one area where they had this like like Hall, where they would just get fuckedup,
I like this is. This is where they would do their their psychedelics, while they would take different forms of plants. There's a bunch of plants like morning glory seeds really a morning glory seeds, the same ones you find today, yeah they actually try to mute them. A lot of people don't know that morning. Glory seeds actually contain. What is the active compound it's a cousin of LSD? It's it's some Nothing psychoactive, that's very closely related and what you would do would do. They would make it they take the morning glory seeds. They would they would soak them and I think they would. Smash them and make a cake and bake it. So they have Lsa Lsa Lsa Lysergic acid right is that lysergic acid concentrated wow, yeah and So when you factor this they've engineered more, glory seeds, many of them to not be psychoactive. Psycho done things to them because they found out of people in the 70s were getting high off
morning. Glory. Seeds, oh, is that funny yeah Mckenna. Favorite psychedelic authors, that was his first psychedelic trip. He was mourning land he ate. Morning glory seeds. He bought them and smashed them up. Teens trying to get high sickened after eating flower seeds. Today show what years that's so funny. Oh yeah, they bought flower seed. Recently probably heard me talk about it. Rose. That's so funny. Morning, glory yeah. Okay, those are morning glory once yeah but see there are things looking at them appeals. I don't know why they're getting sick, the pro too many will butchers. The parent of the seeds contain dealer, cerdic acid team, I'd Lsa schools, resembles, LSD but see all of them. Don't have that now when they say they got sick with nausea and vomiting all the other patron interest,
introspection is sickening. That's worst part but yeah. Apparently that's how a lot of the Mayans a lot of the Mayans used to uh take Lsa. They used to take this stuff. They used to take morning, glory, seeds, and Mckenna said that when he did it He saw a lot of like Classic Maya and iconography. He saw like a lot of imagery, so maybe that's just how it reacts with the brain. It could be. That's a really plausible theory, another theory. That's a little more slippery in this his very WU and the ideas that every experience, so you have like say: if you take mushrooms right, every when you're eating mushrooms you're, not just having an experience where your brain is interacting with this substance, but you are, in fact experiencing all of the people that have ever interacted with this trip. So
That's one of the reasons why Psilocybin is so potentially potent is that you're not just accessing we're talking about morning. Glory seeds, oh right and other getting high on morning, glory. Seeds- and this is the mines did we. I remember we did that when I was in high school out there you go, but their exit launcelot, the thought. Well, the mechanic was saying that when he did it he saw all this uh. I think he said either mine or egyptian iconography, so a lot of like v. Images that were very similar to like these ancient civilizations, and the thought is that either this is what it's doing to your brain or the or whoo whoo thought is that when you having a psychedelic experience specially when you're consuming something like a fungus like us Psilocybin that you're not just having this experience. For this chemicals, interacting with your brain but your in into the realm of all the previous experiences that human beings have had with this, which is one of the reasons why silicide? has such a rich history and
These are incredibly potent experiences when you do take Psilocybin and then also I am I want to when you take that people see Jaguar, since snakes and all these different things, and so the thought behind That is that you are interacting with all the experiences that all these different people with these with these. Various substances is it what's: genetic inside, you like from here mean who knows Information is stored. Yeah, that's all just speculating, but what's interesting is Mckenna said that um, which at the time when he was alive. He died in the early. I think early 2000s right. I think he died like early 2000s. That Cada mean was a weird drug to take 'cause. It seems like no one had taken it yet that you would take it and it's like you were in an empty office. Building like it's all built, but there's no one in the building whereas if you're taking LSD or if you're,
King Psilocybin you've this all these experiences that people have had. So it's like the drug itself, where the it self absorbed. The experiences of the user and transfers them to the next users wow. Very woo woo yeah. It is I like that idea, though, when you do something, that's as potent as like Psilocybin you're open to fuckin' anything like if that spot Well, you give me five grams of mushrooms and that happens, like God, damn I'll take whatever you got. What else you got? What else you tell me yeah! This is what is this and that's yeah, I don't know if you guys talked it. Psilocybin can treat intractable depression, people say no, no, it opens up doors, yeah brain that you take it. One will always stay close yeah. They you do one sells I'm trip and then for like six months that oppression is completely gone. Yeah yeah, my my parents had a had a friend who was experimented on in Canada as a with the LST mom, so she lost her mind event. Yeah
but she didn't know at the time it was a c I a with any government they. The CIA was experimenting in Canada. On Canadians course and she would want to get across that clear, cut yeah right back. Then it was harder. There was a shaver up, yet they couldn't yeah. This is a in the Atlanta. They had the full cooperation of the does the diefenbaker, I think yeah. Let us know TED Kaczynski, the Unabomber I know about the Unabomber part He was a part of the LSD, Harvard studies Alessi he was Horace. This is kind of the same same deal yeah they cook that guys. Yeah, there's, there's a documentary about it. It's really interesting. He was like a sixteen year old kid when he first went to Harvard 'cause. He was so fucking smart that he it was entering the harbor at sixteen years of age and there was a psychologist
that was working at Harvard at the time that he is he's been photographed with and was friends with, and he was a part of program this guy I was notoriously ruthless with his application of lsd to you People me just give it a shot. Let's see what it is, it doesn't surprise them forever. I mean I was but here's the thing and I've been thinking about this a lot lately. I think that he is on to something- and this is what he was on too well. He was onto he's trying to kill people that were creating technology because he felt like technology is going to be the end of humans. He's right, he's right. Yes right, exactly what he was saying on your show. No, no and you're hot, as on acid, probably gave him a coffee cup full acid. At sixteen yeah I mean who knows how much they were. They didn't know what the doses were. They were just experimenting with yeah, as I KEN in Leary Roll part of that exactly yeah, Two weeks ago, when I read on,
call online at the bottom. It said this article has been written by a program not by human, oh yeah. I was like yeah. I know they are so common paint painting service paintings done by a I symphony. No humans and happening yeah, it's I'm in it now, but once they figure out a way to make a reality, that's indiscernible from the reality that we're currently experiencing, which is just around the corner, that's only like it billion years ago, right which is having it well, you only know. What's in front of you, You know what I mean shortly yeah and if you've done the you know, the you know, Is it the oculus stuff and all I had a script yeah yeah I mean we have a is to survive in the back. It's really using their incredible right. It's amazing but you're a moan. Everything looks like you're there. So different. You know very similar is where you jump off a building. If you ever tried that one, no, you go out in a diving board on a on a high rise and program off
yeah. Well, they are they using it to treat PTSD yeah yeah. I reckon the phone yeah yeah yeah yeah, going to happen, yeah yeah! So once they've you're out a way to give you some experiences that you can't tell whether those experiences are we're real or not. Then the aliens are fearful of the land and the matrix and yeah they'll interact in this really is the matrix. I think that the the artificial life in Garden, Inn in intelligence. That is sentient. That is also completely autonomous. That can run itself and decide for itself. It's only a matter of time. It's not a matter of this is not like Hg Wells Science option. Two hundred years ago, like we just guessing So this is like you could see it coming yeah they already machine learning already have certain artificial intelligence, guesses, certain things about you and
but SIRI is still a dumb can't. Let's better big spear series item tried Bixby Button, Alexis, Better SIRI Samsung's version of SIRI Voice. Like I don't know I dance, I never use it. I have a cell phone. I don't know yet it's a credible, effective yeah, but has terrible for your. Is it so that button to visit the voices of app that out to anything else is the voice of Bill Bixby, because I like to all right from the home yeah now our culture, that is far I mean something at the door and tell you about my best friend. Is it come chunky, pick kitchen everything he's a warm hearted person did love you till the end. He had that hot japanese lady that was really cheaper, but ever hooked. Up with her, I was like come on she's right there bro, he seems real nice. She seems lonely too yeah sure you know why anymore, what's the object for anything get in like? How are you now with her man, she's so nice to your kid? If you guys would make a sweet family showed it around very long?
Have you gotten like five or six more seasons of his on Netflix or something yeah there to push that angle, I started watching of the magician little bit missing. That puts us. Oh God is out of the worst of all that was one of the CBS uh movie mysteries. It was like colombo in this terrible rely on every level yeah. He was a magician. He is magic, how solve crimes magic? You don't you. Don't you don't use, do magic and then you're solving crimes, and then someone else solves crimes yeah. It's probably a producers idea right. Ok, I gotta like miniaturize, here's the show magician who solves green salad. I got another meeting, I gotta go and leaves I gotta show it yeah yeah yeah I would I have crews, they give me a pitch once it was a guy who's, the mortal he was an Egyptian. This was a pitch to me. Yeah, I'm gonna play this
yeah, who is a more so far it's good casting yeah, I'm more like a he yeah. I got the something happened back then a woman put a curse on me because I was like banging her sister, something like that and the curse was that you would live forever. So here. I was many thousands of years later. I had to pretend that I was a regular person. I could never die, that was the sitcom that was sitcom yeah The second is the dumbest idea. I've ever heard in my life. Great! Is it one hour ago I was like: do you solve crimes 'cause? I knew it was going to be a problem when I met the guy and he was wearing bowling shoes, but he wasn't going bowling. Those deputies mask those mutherfuckers. Looking at bowling shoes alot of character, my shoes are interesting ways to do that, I like that. Would you member when there was the writer teams, but it was always the one guy was the type or in the other. Guy was really funny yeah. Now there was a lot of those teams and those teams of branch. I and one of those guys would get a lot of money and then
You know there was a the wrong guy typed, we pay the typer, there's a lot of that with the teams. The team always seemed to be like one really counted purse who's. Maybe introspective and weird and eventually figured out. I can just hire a typist yeah. You got rid God, but then they got a big development deal right. Remember development skills, oh my god. I had so many of them. We had one one year where they gave me a shit ton of money and we never did anything that all the money yeah I had three months. I had about four right after news radio did you get and with Three smaller smaller networks, smaller networks gets on the c w. You know you gotta issue. In my mind, it actually right now, no cooking channel what is this obsessing? What is your more?
and obsessing about ufos. What's the origin of this, it's well part of it is just the fact that the evidence just the evidence itself says you have to take this seriously- and yet no one does or very very few people do even like the again that f16. Sixteen footage, that even Neil Degrasse Tyson, who is a great skeptic, said uh on one of them. It actually said. Well, if you really wanted to look at the possibility of some non human intelligence that F sixteen stuff is pretty compelling. What is the have sex in the city. What does this have the to the to the Stars Academy put out? It was the so long yeah he's crazy. We've, never met on the podcast busy yeah, very nice guy. What do you see in the said? She's, a very nice guy in a brilliant musician and he's a loon. I've never met a fuckin' full on believer. He left blink one hundred and eighty two to go. Do this
Stars academy. Shetty said the based rock band: the planet. Okay, here's something interesting about this. An This was pointed out like my ok of film video filmed by five It shows an unknown object near San Diego video from two thousand and four was released by the Us Department of Defense um, while the way it moves. There's something about the way it moves is really weird. Huh move that way. One of the told you immediately. Object was not from this world yeah and here's the thing it's like the skeptics in order to dismiss it, they have to go when they have to make arguments like that jet. Are not better observers than anyone else full of Mick Wards. Take on that make ward the guy who I was, he runs deep, wasn't Metabank Medibank runs a deep bond the site and he's another one of those guys. That is all in with the the conventional explanation.
It goes way out of his way to not look at anything that could be, which is the opposite of Occam's razor. Yes, yeah Occam's razor says you know that if you have to go to greatly to dismiss something right? That's not following Occam's razor right, Occam's razor says. If the jet pilot says he saw this, he saw it. I I think he had an interesting take on it, though one thing says, there's a time during the video where the pilot shifted from 1x to 2x, which makes the image each move more because you're, you have magnification like use magnifying glasses by nose, views fifteen x bind us very difficult hole in the side at a yeah, but six six. You can kind of look at things and distance yeah, but that's if you don't have about him about three million dollars. With the stabilization equipment on your jet yeah onto this object, which is why that stays in lot, He had an explanation that was kind of interesting when it breaks free of the lock
and how is that unbelievable because just take off or something like that, it just at one point just the object breaks free to lock an that's almost impossible. I have a impossible for anything that man was built to do with the quality of cameras today. Why is this footage, so shitty that this is in for an interest, but it yeah yeah, I mean: do you need this? We shooting and things in the sky. You can't rely on alert when you're looking at he yeah. I can't visually it so far. It's so far. It we because it came with a rabbit hole how to debunk conspiracy theories using fact, logic and worst. So what is he saying? What is he saying the program make a larger from my stupid eyes said: for all you make sure you are talking about the right, video there's two that are confused here, we're talking about the symbol, video, which is not from the Nimitz Incident, discussed here so scroll down a little bit
the gimbal video is an ok yeah. That's the one we're looking at is unknown date and location from an up from unknown pilots. Note that talk one since our younger islets yeah, that's two thousand and four okay, that's prefer the medias discuss these videos, Tom Delong. Two stars. The link contains the frames with you saying: keep going, keep going. Going to the black sheep are on the object, some kind of infrared flare glare. We know the shape of a very bright infrared source like the vision of a plane can be much bigger than the object itself is explained here. Ok, so there's like a flair that little explain the move yet so so that explains it doesn't explain again. Occam's razor is ok, so this guy Does this guy saying it's look at Asia. Looks nothing like it, if it is a jet jets, not capable of breaking free from the lock right,
yeah, and if you look at that, you can see the jet his own example, the boxes, the bunk not be moving yeah You need not be moving, and it's also the assumption that that this guy doing probably a few hours. Research has come up with something that is more credible than a trained fighter pilot who is there and visually seeing it? What do you think and tracking? If you had to guess I don't know, let's get crazy. I with I think it is. It is. It is an intelligent craft. Is a craft being piloted intelligently? Why aren't they? talking to us: the was it were: apes mileage. Yes, I go talk to thank you for when you look at it yeah yeah, I forgot yeah you're right, leaving plastic straws every we cured it. No more six draws when you're when you're looking at an ant colony, you didn't go, listen to me ants! Yes, you just looked at him. You know, there's, no, you know they're a why why don't they go to the White House was so what? Why would? What do you?
you look at an ant colony. I must speak to the queen right. You know. Yes, no always said he has not had a chance yeah, that's what the most ridiculous thing about, like both the old movies, ideal movies would land on the White House lawn right. You know yeah yeah, what is the nearest stuff? That's it yeah. Bharat Tunica out everything was yeah class, two Barada Nikto Barada Nikto yeah. That's to day the earth stood still one thousand nine hundred and forty or five thousand fifty. Fifty fifty five great. I watched really recently it's a great. I love this variables. A little bit right stories are great. He was across parallel. His name is John Carpenter. Oh, that Jc that's right, Carpenter, they don't they shoot that object out of his hand. The first pulls it out has thing. That's here, cancer, they shoot him, they shoot him and then just shoot it out of his hand immediately and at the end of the movie he is, he is killed and resurrected. That's right! Right,
take me to the robot robot robot robot. Yeah and, like he looks like you, would want a robot to look in nineteen yeah yeah, all metal and yeah Chrome yeah, those those were the days. We thought that they communicate like it. Wasn't there a whole rash of them that were seen over Washington DC yeah. There was uh yeah, there's dozens yeah, sins of ufos tracked and admitted by the and they were tracking them and watching them. But then again there explanation was nothing, nothing particularly important. You know we have a mutual friend who claims
their name, but she's now and I feel eggs. I I wrote off as a lunatic when I first heard able she was claimed to be adopted, yeah and then I I was doing a show with three years ago, and she just telling us the story. Well, I guess that's pretty funny. In two dozen they took a scoop out of my back and I'm like a scoop. The take a scoop better back, which you showed on her back shoulder. There was a hexagon old diamond shapes group out of her back a a debit that was hexagon yeah. That was clearly clearly and no scar tissue, which is a crazy bujnowski. Little punch, but I punch back deck took worked at a bookstore at the time years ago, when I went into the alien section with the world's biggest bookstore in Toronto, and if it and of course I went to the alien section, just look all this crap up immediately and there are other people with the scoop, a lot of other people with
stories and some of them have like little pieces of something in their body. Remember you talking to me about this. Many many years ago I was like oh no daves interested because, like implant you're talking about people that have an alien implants, yeah body yeah- and that's the things I to me- it's just, I guess the one thing that's I'm kind of obsessed with now is just the guys were comedians yes, and what the power of ridicule to silence debate is unbelievably potent shore and we're part of that were part of the machinery that was used very, very consciously by the government to silence yeah. I any inquiry. You know it's like you know if eating it. You know feeding the story. The right way too late night talk, show hosts, made it so that nobody would talk about it. So do you think that the government consciously fed those ideas
Johnny Carson, those folks yeah, I think, there's documentation of a of a pro you know of that. They you know to to make the UFO phenomena ridiculous. You think They did that to avoid mass hysteria like if you were the and you know, there's nothing out there, but you see these people freaking out you, okay, look! We've we've used all of our military might all of our scientific power, and we don't see shit, I'm not buying this, but these people are freaking out. This has the real potential to get out of hand and go sideways on us. We should start making fun of this yeah. I don't know I think it's more likely that there's something there that they feel powerless to control. Do you think He was taken down into the basement of what and shown the alien sitting. There is what I say about aliens with when in regards to Trump. If there's anybody that would fuckin'
it's him. He treated tweeted immediately. Tweet it between looking and aliens ufos are real, but CNN is fake, yeah, yeah yeah. It still like what the fox the point being, president, if you can't find another UFO yeah. If I knew that to become president met, you get all the access to ufos. I might go yeah it's over I'm gonna. Try for that. The president have tried, haven't gotten there. No, no one gets it like Jimmy Carter. Jimmy Carter said he had a UFO experience. He saw something right yeah, so he said he saw something, but it's either. That was back. In the 70s, where everybody was seen Chet, they were all talking about things. There's more of the Zeit Geist was. People were legit like after closing, This is the third kind, especially people legitimately.
In the aliens were going to come yeah. He proposed such a possible scenario. Movie was so good. It wasn't anything you expect it was going to be like your pets can sing hit like an exams like the render. Some, like think that explanation of the F sixteens locked you know footage like Rendlesham Forest, where the the the claims that these american soldiers in the woods out in England Mistook the Light lighthouse light for a spacecraft that they were within twenty feet of a craft that they in took notes on different ideas of yeah. They walk not even like bread up against it and it's you know, wrote down, notes, solid difference of hieroglyphs on the ship itself described its. You know described that the feel of it, this electrostatic feel of being a
around it and the official explanation was they mistook a light house several miles away for this space craft, so Occam's razor again says that hard to believe these trained observers and that's they always try to dismiss the idea that trained observers are better observers, but they are better observers. Sure in the age of today, where everyone has a high definition camera in their pocket. If you take in a cave you taking a photograph of the moon on your card on your phone's comes out, so it doesn't look like the moon. That's true! Yeah right is no. Details comes out of his the lenses are too wide, but alchemist He says: alright, they saw something, but this you know, because what is the likelihood that trained observers who have been on this base for years on this night? Would mistake a lighthouse
they've seen every night for the entire time they've been on this base for a UFO, I mean what is the likelihood that that explanation is correct. I'm not aware of that story. Oh Rendlesham Forest, yeah bent woods, random, bentwoods Rendlesham Arienne De L e s h a m Rendlesham forest. Yes Ben, which was to not as a character actor in Colombo. Where you There is you have enemies and it's a nuclear installation rentals in forest, the nuclear Solutions are always ripe with ufos to s now what year was this? This is in the eighties nineteen eighty yeah I'm interested in and it's you know, and it said. Obviously the obvious explanation is not there explicitly. Only thing you can accept is that these observers saw something we described it accurately. Is it something it. Crashed if you want to say that no it came down was was landed in the forest. And then took off.
Anything in the russian case in night before that ROZ. Well, I think it's probably true real you're, all in yeah well David there in about, but I mean because it's interesting again because the because the cover stories for our so much less believable than an alien yeah, I serve a joke about it. Yeah the they put on the paper that they have recovered a crashed UFO and alien bodies in the next day or so we made a mistake, was just a balloon. Yeah. What about the aliens alone, those markets there Mexicans they were drinking. Apparently they thought the balloons pen yadda yeah raising yeah. I believe in your right now, but we just invented some new stuff yeah. I don't know where and then the thirty years later they got all the right. They were high altitude dummies. They are dropping that's right to test how they would fall. All right now we have lasers and invisibility cloaks well, they they showed up again the next day with a bunch of weather balloon scraps yeah like
yeah with the guy holding up, but they don't tell you is that they flew the wreckage out to Wright Patterson AIR Force in two separate Planes in the Truman met them there, yeah yeah yeah, so I mean again more rational, separate plans yeah because they were worried. Yeah on would crash the weather, the weather balloon thing is not as rational as something weird happened. Listened. I want it to be an alien, so bad ocean myself, so that's my problem I want that stuff. But I again I don't- I won't like I'll be skeptical about so that just seems crazy or people that you know believe in a service scraps of the metaphysical explanation for all this that might might thing is just well if the preponderance of the evidence says something happened, but doesn't tell you what happened right then you still have if something happened, not knowing what happened, isn't evidence that it didn't happen and yet you're still a flat earther yeah Have you looked outside it seems like have
you studied hashtag phase space is fake, uh. No, because it looked into it, people dumber bases for people, there's people that are so dumb. They think the earth is flat and there's people that that are so dumb. They make fun of the people that are dumber than them. Yeah yeah. They think that that space is fake spaces, fake, there's no space. It is basically a. But what is it that? Well, that's a holographic eatery yeah, W, Google, it it's it's really religious, it's it's! okay, the firmament and of the Bible and they're they're. Really it's very strands. Ours are hung in the sky over which would call like yes and you two people here this all right, and you know what again, fifty six wow, that's incredible. Explore ocean ocean. I understand I have to be sometimes yeah hi fake human dug earth. Yeah
explore ocean. Suddenly it easy discover. Thousand miles really well written yeah super super good side. Only they can discover a thousand miles. I wonder how many of those I was talking about Renee to rest who's, the woman who studies all these russian troll forms of them their mock. I wonder how much of that is them the russian? that sounds rough side, flat earth spaces fake department, where they just mark, because always in English, I don't think there's a lot of flatters russian proponents. God if I was one of those russian guys that I would want that to be my department yeah, I just got the call people globe, Tardes Globe heads yeah, if you believe in their lives around yeah calls to ours. I've save some of these memes because they're so wonderful. This like this is just rich. I had the worst override with a guy now who was a flatter, fairer, yeah. He was, and he was a computer programmer watt yeah a compute programmer slash flat, Arthur
it was driving uber, not working at now, smile the whole time, while he, while he drove me crazy, he drove me. He knew what he was doing. I think can do it on purpose, I think so. So how do you start off? So I bet you're. One of those guys believes the earth round huh. Well, I talked about the beautiful view from the plane. They pick me up at the airport yeah and you know it's so beautiful sunset over the curvature of the earth, and it up not really the curvature of the earth. That's how it's and he would not stop. Oh, my God point where I was. I think I think I tore my clothes off. He made me so insane, there's so many of 'em. Now- and you know, we've uncovered origins of what we think the origins of it. It was us a troll from four Chan. Four Chan was fucking around they started promoting this idea that the earth is actually flat started at a lot of things, start from that. That's where the free bleeding movement started from
I don't know what that is. Women are expressing their power by not controlling their menstrual cycle, with pads or tampons, just bleeding into their pants to show their power yeah. They did it on Chan is a joke in the women's are doing in real life or real yeah that that that thought it was like. This is a way to like these people are disgusted by menstrual blood here's something out patriarchy by showing your pussy blood. I got a crazy crazy. It makes me want to start one fortunate fast. They just are so good at that they're, so good at starting these goofy as fucking little movements and then getting people behind it. That's like it's like. Name yeah, yeah game. Well, it's you know what it is. It's probably bunch of really smart people write some of them, not so smart, but some of them really smart that are stuck at their desks and they're bored as shit with some computer. Job somewhere and I think of in the meantime they just decide. Funding people right. We're talking about uh, flat, earthers and free bleeding
the free bleeding movement which is really started by four Chan, yeah, four and started this movement where women would express their power by not controlling their menstrual cycle by just letting the blood leak out into their pants and They did it as a joke. Yeah that, for did and women start actually doing it caught on yeah yeah a lot of these things so hard to mock, but it's so hard to figure out like what is mockery and what's real What is parity and what's was never Willard, the onion onion is you know if you do you know the James Lindsay Peter Bagozzi, and it was another woman's name, the one that we didn't mean that studies hoaxes He goes in his professor at University of Portland and uhm. I think that's the school he's in Portland um, an he decided to with these other academics published these
take papers on like a rape and dog parks. Like like like of Sis normative like different like to see what happened? No people love them ridiculous things like fat bodybuilding, like Bodybuilding, contest a contest for fat people like to talk about the employment. With the importance of these things like things that you read and you would think would be obviously a parody someone's walking around they, these. These academic journals not only get published, but they get praised for for their scholarship and they came out and said: hey we're talking with you guys is all just late and you know- and you guys love these papers. You morons- and this is problem part of the problem with the humanities. Today yeah said things are so sideways in terms of like it's so difficult to find out. What's what's parody What's reality it's insane,
same time is insane as it yeah yeah yeah. I guess it's a settling is not known to not know if someone's having me on or not exactly yeah, and with this very all the structures that used that for good or for bad would filter things down. Are gone yeah, you know like we, you know everything was handed over to powerful people have filtered what we were given to know. There used to be a of an agreement of common sense, but, yes to hang I think the cure is mind reading and I think we're going to accept that cure 'cause. You know- The line is working on some sort of neural link, saying the only way we'll know if someone's telling the truth we're gonna have yeah. I think it's good we're going to accept it and we're going to give in and we're going to we're we're going to be able to just I I'll take another step further. I think they're going to create a universal yeah a lot. I think this to be universal language. It probably is augmented reality, some augmented reality. Language, shapes or
some kind of symbolism that isn't yeah, something that doesn't grow too and we are proud, I can accept it. 'cause we're old will like this. Next generation are kids, maybe even our kids, kids are kids, kids are going to be the first people to adopt it, and then it's going to be universal worldwide and with did reality and some sort of ability to interact each other through kind of bandwidth. I remember time I heard about cochlear implants? That's the first thing that popped my head is. This is the start yeah! This is the first interface you're now officially your sidebar, clear implant. You are a cyborg people with Apple. You were an apple watch like what do you? What do you? What is that you have a computer? That's just constantly strapped to you all the time measuring and monitoring your heart rate yeah. You know and they'll even sitting here and when we don't know so accessing the entire store. A few
knowledge of Jamie's our side, yeah yeah yeah we're we're access yeah all of human knowledge. Innocence is true anytime. We want that was the lawns other thing that he said on the podcast Uraeus I've or you have a phone, it's just it's not in your body, but it's yeah and you're. Holding on to yeah yeah yeah, it's violent, Terry Sideboard! Did you guys read third wave years ago? Was that a book you ever got now now? That was the protection of all this really yeah, and that is in the early eighties and was prediction in the one thing? Third wave, addicted, was that the next generation the first line, and that I remember, was it it's all about information. Now it's all gone going to be about sharing information. You know that I'm not going to figure out a way to share information. Well, that's when I saw the cochlear implant, I thought well, if you're alright, so your brain is interpreting uh electronic signal as information directly. It's bypassing the ear entirely right and it's just a neuronal connection that well that eventually, is how we will
that's the internet will access the internet as though it is our own thoughts. It is easily, as I remember your name. I remember any other fact that is on wreck. Will be the matrix and we'll all be part of the same exact, I'll be sitting in pod some well. This is the only for yourself and actually will be like a peripheral thing. You'll be able to tap into it or not as you as you wish, but I think asked goes on. It's going to be more and more integrated. Do you like distinguish it from your own mind, but you used to have to go to a computer that was hard wired into the wall and you die. It's in their lap to get online. Now everything is instantaneous is in your phone and this isn't when we were on Newsradio radio, I first got an apple computer and got online an. I was fuckking fascinated I couldn't believe into Compuserve,
yes, how we got to bring it all around. The first thing I did was Download UFO reports downloading UFO, like a dork like running all these things. I remember the first, the first chat with somebody I remember in one thousand nine hundred and ninety three yeah man. It was ninety five office computer. First on my head in, news first time I had an email account, remember that online and and and that that first, I think I went to the loose sight sure to see what is on there and you know, watch the into her honest bars, paintings the load in about thirty minutes out right, and that was download the news like I'm at the Louvre. Why remember you had a program on your laptop. This is ninety six you program on your laptop that kept crashing. But when it worked it was amazing.
Give you the news: yes, run: save yeah as a screen saver that someday the news would just come up yes, consul in a constant flow of new technologies, and I wish that still exists and it doesn't exist anymore. I don't even think it was wifi. I think you know yeah. I had. I had an isdn line in my house all while I remember which give me one hundred and twenty eight yeah. You were to look It's percent Del years ahead of everybody I knew and all yours yeah. I had T1 line installed in my house, yeah yeah I remember it like this, like I need, there's only. I lived in the woods whose only way I could get like really high speed, internet access to carve a fucking hole in the ground and give me a business pipe now, five gs around the corner. Man, five million five she's so they say it's going to be hundreds of times for change. Forty again yeah, it's
it's like, going to a to a fiber optic link down on your brain yeah. I think I see these are. Those are gone now forever. Evil does in case just just yeah. Well, the real question is like: where are we storing all this stuff? If we're only storing it in ones and zeros like we were talking about the demise of civilization in the past that up right? But that's what that's? What probably I mean every society? Probably I don't think they reached that ten thousand but I think Every society probably reaches some point where everything is just ones and zeros on a database somewhere, but in this app crashes of physical place right, for the internet cysts or something like all. Our gmail accounts exist somewhere, there's huge buildings with internet exchanges, or you know someone just drop some. No! No! That's that's absolutely the case. But also, if something happens in the grid goes down an we mean if we're hit right if uh Matt, hey where's, right, yeah, yeah sure of what Doctor Robert Shock was talking about
there's an empty, lightning Storm like torches buildings and starts everything on fire. Good luck, accessing all that not only that if human beings just skip a generation like the generation of turmoil and chaos, and then we slowly rebuild civilization. How many of those we're going to understand computer code. How many of these people can understand Linux? How many of these people that are coming up without any education from a formal varsity no internet and whatsoever for decades, perhaps hundreds of years, it's like resetting a civilization. You talked about earlier exactly start all over again and that's when the aliens because they know we can't do anything but draw shitan client type yeah. They wait until we can take pictures anymore and then they come back and re engineer yeah right now. They just you know relying on the fact that nobody can frame a shot. Well, the weird thing about the alien theory was that they came down and genetically manipulated, lower hominids.
The grey aliens vs, that's the weird one yeah or that they are. They are of a later evolved version of us coming back to check on us right right, right, yeah, that's the other thing too is the about that archetypal image of the alien with a great idea. The big black eyes is that if you go, you go down from Australia Pithecus. To home modern Homosapien. If you make this connect, you see this hunt. Go very hairy almost champ like humanoid, and then standing up losing all of its hair and the head is much larger, doubling of the human brain size over a period of two million years. Where is that going is going to keep going? Well, if it keeps going, Is it going to get you going to get a feel thing, but yeah feeble thing with the giant head and that's what these aliens are there always feeble with giant heads sure, true, yeah, terrible and if they left
they've been living off through a long time. Yeah then yeah your bodies, you know they're very out of shape. Well, they also have no of China's, so the flash in the they realize that saves a lot of time yeah. Yes, that gives you time to get stuff done. I'm I'm all I'm already there and it's more of a meritocracy. No, you know bang people based on their and Yeah, you don't have that anymore. There's! No more that you just more wasted time, yeah, just sharing your thoughts transfer Liane through the air? No orders it only normal like in the movie yeah? Does your need to pick? things up anymore, everything's telekinetic right now is that giant had to move around, never have to leave your house. I was elected pod. There's a guy that worked supposedly a pattern of you really worked at area. Fifty one the the the the the whole story? What's left are yeah, but that was alright yeah, it's a good! It's a good documentary, yeah yeah! It's it's Burns B, Cameri, where you It's just dealing with him as an individual go okay, this guy, isn't you know he isn't the.
The fire brand UFO believer that some people want to be and he's not the lunatic that other people wanted to be, but he didn't tell the truth about is education. Right is not the case. Is there some some ing about yeah, Definitely like you, the records of his education. If they, if he was telling the truth, those records aren't around anymore right, yeah, He was telling the truth, somebody expunged and yet and he's and he's basically his argument as well. If I didn't have this education, why was I hired to do this job? You know I mean I was hired to do this research by the government and they have the records of me doing the research. So why did they? Let me do this research for all these years. If I didn't have the education to do it, but it wouldn't there be someone went to school with them. Like don't. You have friends from high school right. Well, not many. Why I do have some friends then go yeah, there's no effect in fifth grade English. You bro yeah. I got a couple of wasn't there, a guy who went to college with Babolsar could say yeah yeah, yeah
which one which is out there yeah. I think there aren't people yeah yeah, that remember him. It looks cool so you enjoy the documentary you remember the name of it is uh. Oh, what is it called Bob Lazar? the guy who emailed me about that Yes, I am the guy made and that's a real problem. The your foot, even this one, is a fairly rational documentary, but it's but they're. So bad, even this was as just this just got just bad filmmaking right. You know, bombs are area fifty one in flying, saucers yeah or the title yeah four point one: that's it Jeremy CORE bill, yeah I think he's the gentleman yeah and it's going to set it off, but it has like Mickey Rourke doing voice over added voice overs. If at some point I love it as a wrestler, I
and we're going to fly yeah I'm doing this because he that would be fine, so twenty percent on rotten tomatoes, but it's coming over the head with your you, a phone, but I mean you've, seen you've seen the was I know what I saw an out of the blue, those documentaries. You know you haven't seen. Those are great. Are they out of the blue is a great serious document. About the UFO phenomenon, and I know what I saw is one sort of tracing the the participants in the the disclosure hearings at the press club in Washington, God is bring me back in there. Yeah. I love the man. I really wish the real, but I'm telling you my experience talking to these people when I did that Sci FI shows like now. This is all nonsense. Yeah, but again up that Those people were not, but the military air traffic controllers, the pilot
yeah yeah government officials, like of this, is named fee. Of Arizona is one of the guys in. I know what I saw in out of the blue, oh yeah. He was here that was told to like market yet, but somebody I dress, like you yeah, in these documents. He talks about how much we deeply regret doing that- and this is from out of the blue yeah- really interesting, deeply great. Maybe now Not a governor anymore is trying to get a new angle in his career. He basically said you know what 10s of thousands of people saw these craft and we lied. We came out. We lied. E d say who directed him to line? You didn't really did say he was really directed to. He said if you felt like people are in a state of panic and he thought he could relieve some of the fear by making a joke of it, and he said he really regret. He really just wanted to make real people 'cause. He didn't. He didn't know what else to do. He said he didn't. He said I saw it. Everyone else thought
and I didn't know how to calm people down. So I made this joke and he said he regrets it to this day. There's another thing about these UFO experiences, an alien experiences where people really dive into them. That seems to be the ac, the atheists version of religion to last for yeah yeah, which again I that I dismiss you, know the area yeah. I don't think that's likely to be the case, they're here to to save us, Sir they're not can, can Arnold I'm action. I'm done. I mean that I mean the people that are believers are really into it. It seems to be that that instead of focusing on a deity they're, focusing on areas civilization, answering it to that something else. Yeah it's something you say daddy or anything will save us yeah that when we decide point those nuclear weapons at each other and then it's going to come down and they'll come down at the last minute. Talk to russian. Make good. What's not right, yeah yeah,
where Dave during her Shima Nagasaki, yeah watching all everybody deserves a lunch break, but I said who whatever is going on. That's not an intervention. Well, you know right after worth. Right afterwards was when a giant. Swarm of UFO sightings happened right after the nuclear bombs were dropped. Yeah! That's when there's a big uptick in you. Citing tent and a lot of the yeah and, as you said, a lot of the incidents are at nuclear missile sites. I don't they're getting going for fuel some of that. Well, they've Steve. I mean there's the one in Arizona somewhere. They they were UFO showed up and shut down the entire launch system, They all the missiles went off line at the same time and it's you know, and it's documented and it's in the records of the time Tom Tom Tom, but all of the missiles when offline, you don't seem one, never Ryan, this I'm
I am literally right in the middle. That's where I live on. This thing is, I really I don't know I'm not quite in the middle I'm in the. I desperately wanted to be real, but I'm still it's not I'm still, I'm calling bullshit. Yes, I guess I'm edging desire my desires towards real! I want it to be around when John Landis came out as Bigfoot that bothered me didn't really know he came out as a bigfoot believer. No, it came out as a guy in the suit. Oh, oh! Well, remember that! No, just why they wanted to them five, from Harry and the Hendersons that suit now. This is him in his college friends. They made their the big foot in the in the famous video, no, that spot. No, that's a Bob Haram Amiss, but I'm not only when the snow known deserve video of Bob Bob. Her animists was friends with the so that that story that big foot stores a real problem, because that's not Robert the
Harrison Film Patterson and was a con man who went to jail for writing a bad check. The paid for the very camera used to film big foot, he went out looking to film big foot yeah, they had a suit, he was trying to get a suit they gotta have Bob Rawness is a big tall guy who walks like big foot Here's a video of yes, the Patterson footage. If there's a bit video that super. Poses Bob. Her arm is walking on one side and big foot on the sidewalk the same day. This is it's the guy yeah, it's him and by the way big foot looks like a guy in. Big foot sued. Can I am on on the planet that looks like a person in an animal suit. Never look at us. Wanna go hand. Looks like a purpose wants to know the things that mom, like you see a gorilla. It does not look look like a person in a gorilla suit right now, the hipster in the different places. Only anatomy is different. That's the same with this fucking stupid footage. It's so dumb
that the people that buy in them believe it it's like come on. Let's just look at it. That's not saying it was always always see if you can find that footage Bob Parana Miss NET right next to the did Bob Harada mess as big foot, I mean there's there's a video on Youtube where they show the stabilized image of this animal moving across the I'm? Not by the way I've been to that area where they saw that thing yeah. That's really interesting, 'cause it on your show that yet, but there are still like people like anthropologists, will still say. You know there's clear evidence that KEN bone structure of this bigfoot- but consumption, there's a single how to survive. I mean that's our, but we're not anything else that has to be in the unity yeah. Yes, we commune took the compelling. Interesting aspect of Bigfoot that there was an animal called Gigantopithecus that existed yeah
recently, one hundred thousand years ago, and they found teeth in the 1920s and the apothecary shop in China that were an unknown hominid and then they were like. Where did you get these and then they found the area where they found them and they started discovering more and they found some jaw bone fragments and some various bones see this look at this. Look at that guy. Oh, my god. We get Actually, I think that's the guy. That's amazing, that's him, and he admits you. Yes, yes, I got the same. He admitting he talked about it's fucking him he talked about it. He said he told the story. They said alright ready go start walking. I wouldn't exactly so put that guy in a big old stoop fuckin' furry suit, and you have big foot, that's great. It's a hundred percent him yeah, so does that mean is not one out there. No so Gigantopithecus was a real animal. The thing was a by Peter Hominid that live somewhere around a hundred thousand years ago for sure, but most likely
since I lived alongside human beings for eons right, and this thing was in eight to ten foot tall in see if you get it, image of the photo of a recreation of age. I can't open it's next to a modern human beings really interesting. It was huge, huge bipedal. Fossil record of it and it's a real thing: yeah yeah, it makes sense like of a gorilla with his girls like five hundred pound gorilla grills are considered mythical creatures until, like the eighteen, ninety bombs, scroll up Jamie, there's a better image right above you, I wasn't. Even the nineteen hundred says. Grills were first just like officially discovered this. There's a better one where that shows on land with the the big big foot wrapped around his keep scrolling there's a that. Is that that's a good one yeah there is a great guy, that's the guy! So that's what
That thing looked like. So if you saw that in the woods you be like holy fucking shit, hell yeah, eight foot tall gigantic hairy ape creature- I wouldn't touch it like that. Guys touching he's afraid right now, that's his buddy. Let's, let me see dudes from Russia with bears. So that's a real animal. So that's probably, why there's so many mythological stories? about this thing. The native Americans have more than a hundred different names for these creatures of the landowner. This trust they find that they thought was extinct for years yeah. Yes, it is armored plated fish right, yeah, yeah, there's, there's a lot of animals, the meanest cryptozoology in a not show, there's a lot have of animals that we think are extinct, that probably aren't, but that one is very unlikely one cuz it's You know it needed enormous supplies: food yeah, I mean it's a huge, huge animal, but the thing about it- is that the sightings occur all in the Pacific NW, which, if you
all the Bering Land Mass, that's where they would have come across if they came across with humans. They would come across into Alaska, where there's a lot of sightings and down into the Pacific Northwest, where there's a lot of sightings, other sightings all over the country now, but is there any fossil record outside of Africa I'm checking applicants new, no there's not know, there's not yeah yeah. It's all. It's Asia. Actually, Asia is where they find them. Yes, I'm in Africa, ironically yeah as it does Asians are tiny right. Twenty people found this on a person, not this one. That some it's it's compelling in the sense that there was a bunch of different kinds of hominids that existed, the enemy that we only now know that yeah we interbred with Neanderthal yeah yeah that yeah that's most of us have not entitled dna, anise, yeah, well, most white folks, which is interesting
right because it was, it was the opposite. If you is black people had it would be a really controversial subject. You know, but instead it's dumb white people. Like me, yeah I have fifty seven percent more call dna than the average person. You know what I'm can argue that neither I was like a new era, I'm sure my Indiana to account is low. Could you be surprised when the club to carry around with I got rid of that profile, but it is a european yeah, a lot of Europeans. You know in a bread which tells what went away longer run than we ever have they will they call as your way yeah we have for around for five hundred thousand years on change me home sapiens only been around knowing that all three hundred thousand years and our ego services we usurped and we we we drove them into extinction and in fact, that we just made at them and sixty invite them to death,
yeah right, just diluted up yeah what was going on yeah, we were ruined their purity friend, probably drug demand. Neutered him yeah probably want to figure out how to do that, which is early. That would you know about that Hobbit person thing that they found the island of Flores? That's another one, that they didn't know until it's gone full name is Lori and Sis Sis, I think, is the name of it. It's in tiny little person like thing that there was like three feet tall and had large feet where you guys looking at me, not bro. No just say we all have our own genetic history that was uh real thing that, as recently as yesterday, fees image, that's all and that that existed yeah home floor ends, Sis yeah and they listed as recently as fourteen thousand years ago. They found yeah yeah, they coexisted, they coexisted with modern humans and then they think modern humans might have wiped them out because they were probably
there are some countable at not cannibalism, but they preyed upon our children and stuff like that they ate us data, yeah they were eating us? Well, there was that one of this one of the things that I read the speculation was that they might of. There might have been a an issue with them like invading in trying to see you know like chimps, have stolen babies and eating them yeah, it's a really. Common thing. Actually, babies are delicious on that's why people like yeah. Well exactly. Yeah. That was, I heard there was a company that that produced a AG. The vegan version of human flesh, one four I just what to sell to people in Papua New Guinea. That's the cell. Where do I get? There were no longer allowed to eat human flesh that Slayer as awful? I read this thing about people into
any that were cannibals and there were talking to them after World WAR two and they were trying to figure out how the Europeans, once they found out how many people were killed during world war. Two they were trying to figure out how the Europeans mad to eat that much. Meet yeah and then they told him. No, they don't eat the people they kill and they were horrified excellence in ways you waste all that all the people, the angel in battle, yeah yeah, yeah, that it would be horror IRAN's but some waste away LAN and they and they believe the absorbed, the noble qualities of their enemy mmhm. Only the good spots yeah, but eating certain spots. You don't have some if, if, if, if you're, if you killed him in a battle who you thought was jelly a great warrior, that's what Brings you back to the whole UFO thing that makes it so compelling to me. Is we have really serious protocols for dealing with uncontacted tribes. We don't engage with uncontacted tribes and we find I mean we almost universally agree. I mean loggers
do in the Amazon Massholes and mean people, but the idea in the scientific in is scientific communities. We should leave these people alone and so when they these uncontacted tribes, whether it's N Sentinel Island, where that missionary was killed recently or the Amazon when they're going through these jungles and finding these small bands of people, l overwhelmingly everybody wants back off in the Malone yeah yeah and they are so close to us. I mean they're human beings, they're homo sapiens. They have tools, they have so location, they have law. They have all these different things that live in these communities. There us yeah and we back off, imagine what aliens imagine aliens would do their is Jamie because they don't want to screw the human flesh alternative health human flesh alternative. That's it or there was a hoax from like four
another one yeah one who from burger? I have a few burger deep, Fried who flew over here on long hoping once you see tofu processed. This come back to me. This is this is really good for you like what this is so process Fox slots like reduced to nothingness and then formed again. Can I just eat sweet beans? Look the! Is this yeah? You can do this, you can't remember jobs. You can buy it on frozen lakes. That's the way to go. I think Sony Fuckin' to Why do I have to have to say something like a toothpaste tube? Well, it tastes like nothing yeah. It's like it's weird, so weird choice. Now I can't I can't I can't stand anything made from tofu. I think that if aliens did see us there would they would probably take a hands off approach if we weren't totally ruining everything If we didn't have some anti matter, antimatter weapon,
black hole weapon that we're just gonna, just new car New Mexico just to see how it works happen. Yeah I saw if there's all that was going to burn a hole through the planning kill everything on they might step and a half or so. Well. There was this year before the law launched, CERN, yeah and open up a warm well, there was a black hole that would give a create a particle that would devour the fabric of the universe. Yeah. I was a black hole that would expand expanded expanding to what did God, man may we restarted yeah you know in a parallel universe. Mom they were knocked off our time line into another place, yet it makes sense yeah it was. It was the things going on the internal right that the evidence of multiple universes that we pop in and out of different yeah right, like the fact that we, the Multiverse list of
your logo. Let's say, do you remember, do you recognize this part of the Ford logo on this? Most people never noticed at this a weird little squiggle in the F really yeah on the set, the FED Ex thing, those people's minds too yeah, it's not zero. What era I was playing bring up Fedex. If you never. If you will never not see the arrow again yeah same thing with the Ford logo looks like Yeah, it's not a normal perceptions. It's like the whole time- and I didn't I didn't know There- was arrow there. People will insist that the Hello is really interesting. Ok, but that's accidental arrow, no, you think so they designed it in there there is or is there right, yeah right there, the white part, so that yeah yeah, I never see it again or never, not see it again. I know it's funny. Huh.
But I mean that could be like forty years before it yeah the list for Eagle little squiggle in the F Jesus. Why is that our squiggle? Why is it so cold That's ridiculous yeah that actually smells f like that. That means that actually spelled Fiord yeah more fool, Good word for word is out and I what is it? Why would they squiggle? Why did they do Oh no. It didn't used to do that in the trinity. Sales man designer from Illinois. That's right, yeah! That's where the people who insist that Mandela died in jail in jail Was there always a squiggle when did it is that is that a real ford that little thing when did they make the squiggle Ok, that's fine, because that's what I thought the forward thing looked at him, some lysol, this in the future. If they stop the squiggle at some point, they must have or the opposite. Maybe they add the square goal Maybe we can bring up the squiggle without some kind of issue. The research with some modern Ford go to you
two thousand and nineteen Ford Mustang. Let's see that, let's see if they have the screen has the squiggle now it does. I think that is some the squiggle Asal one to justify its existence per room in there. You can change the logo. Now, let's see I mean I love those to change that as a squiggle as a squiggle, that's a new Mustang, so the squiggles current yeah yep, the school's current. It really doesn't fit no stupid. It would look better without that stupid square globally. The only thing that's saving that squiggles that no one noticed it up until now. Right now, I'm never going to know. Thank you effect. I hate Mandela effect, but that just seems like people with something that's not broken yeah right, yeah like let's just remember it up right, remember when they came up with a new coke talk out,
like a riot yeah right on the head of this of a parallel universe. This is a stupid idea. This ruin Coke yep yeah Coke's, made with real cocaine the original cookie no today today. Yes, let that they replaced it with caffeine. No, they use coca leaves back in the themes, coca leaves for flavor. Yes, in fact, the company dude it's crazy, the company that makes the coke the company that uses the coca leaves that brings in the coca leaf. Make Coca COLA is the number one creator of medical grade cocaine they use that coca leaves, to also make medical grade. Cocaine, there's no cocaine in in Coca COLA, but there is a flavor pull. That's bunch different for logos. Yeah over the years see I district where I do and I could just twenty seven, twelve one thousand nine hundred and twenty seven to two thousand and three all of 'em huh. I like the one in one thousand, nine hundred and three, that's actually pretty dope um Google,
coke they use Coca leaves to make Coca COLA. They still do yeah. I actually do and that's what he told us that, because it makes cocaine because of the yeah, because the recipe for it's a focus laser herbal there's like a merge that go into coke. Yes, it's a flavor, but the diet. Coke is just chemicals. It's all artificial! Remember I was in in the new coke thing, happened this advertising besides producing, local flavor agent for Coca COLA, the Stephan company extracts cocaine from the coca leaves which sells it to Mallen crock did Missouri pharmaceutical manufacturer? That is the only company United States license to purify cocaine for medical use, but disannul yeah there you so they actually using actual coca leaves so someone I guarantee you. If you follow the paperwork, there's a
cocaine hanging around guys additive little residual guys they get a little bit here when it leaves at work. Yeah digital pep me up right and that's what's amazing- is that you're not allowed to to the leaves because, apparently chewing the leases really healthy yeah I get five annoys, it's actually good for you and it gives you a pick up. That's very similar to caffeine. Yeah. I mean that's what yeah people living in the you know. This Forrester began shooting the ball. Hi Amazon, rain Forest, I love doing journalist, leaves with system as one of those weird things that pops up. When you see ninety percent of their sales are down the United States, but some tax registered manner check it out of the exclusion mark, Trudeau's weasel moves when them tax weasel moves, yeah taxes trip answer bizarre. When you find out this giant court, directions to make billions of dollars that they're all in Ireland weasel out of taxes so how much
because they don't believe in socialism. Did you read that money taxes I paid last year? Amazon? Zero? Well, you know: it's nice that is, I've, been exists. Now you know you get a one click and that's yellow paper said time, I'm happy, I'm happy to use the product and that's why they need that's what he needed: a billion dollars in tax breaks from the city of New York. How does that work? Hello, zero in taxes, zero yeah, but what and Why did they need those experts in long island? Maybe that's why you're going to pay him anyway? Thank you, fucking dumb you, an Amazon fuck you over, like that or David Carr. Maybe that's why they're coming here all their money's in Ireland yeah Ireland's doing great yeah highlands kicking out yeah. Ok, I'm going to Ireland. Aliens got a bank somewhere, I'm curl There's no leaves a current there's. Some sort of a ballot initiative where they're trying to put a psilocybin
in the same medicinal category as their do using as for marijuana, while they do because they I mean like I will be able to get an oil and gas doors California trying to do that. I'm past medical, the Nichols Psilocybin for therapy yeah my ears. I guess I've been on anti depressants and news radio days and I'm just as you just went off at this month this month on good look great good idea, fillers, yet and I'll get part of it was because I had this head injury few years ago. What happened? I had a well, I got. I got, I don't know if you remember this, I used to drink quite a bit. I do remember that now. I now you do one night about four years ago, uh I went out got really drunk right before Christmas and wound up. I guess at a bar called the Must downtown right around the corner from my apartment, and I fell down on. The patio just fell over like that I would call cartoon. I would call it a deadfall and land on the back of my head,
Is it my head on the stone patio with enough force that my brain gave me a black eye from the inside of my my head. It's cerebral yeah and I had I had a subdural hematoma double him, as in the I see you for four days, get the bread I had one Those black bright red blood, eyes pictures this yeah do somewhere. I one is no. I guess my tablet, this nice habit of Jesus, so I think they can take it out of my memory, though, at the s it's like total recall, you can just remove things, but Christina Christy has the photos of all that. But the weird thing is that I decided I'm sorry when I said I gotta quit drinking and I thought it would be hard, but I'll do it and I kept waiting for it to get hard to not drink and it never did like I'm not. For years having a drink it for years and heroin and yeah, but do anything nothing, no pot, no
I wish I could I don't like pot. I wish I could enjoy what don't you it about it. Be very quiet and paranoid less. My favorite part. And uh I think about it. But you seem very lucid when you're on pot, you seem very, very communicative yeah, whereas when I smoke pot, I can't put a sentence together. Yeah makes me friendly. Yeah makes me very withdrawn alcohol. The friendly right so that for me too yeah we say the one thing I miss about drinking is you know the liking? People? You sound like me more yeah, it is But I have because this brain injury it never was hard, did not drink. My urge to drink was gone from getting knocked in the head, and also I noticed over the couple years is: I haven't, had any depression wow an so just before I guess. In like November I said I talk to my doctor said. I want to go off the antidepressants and see what happens, and so I've been like gradually weaned off and just this month took like
as they depressant about a month ago, so how long is the weaning process it took about three months has been really addictive? Yes, yes, how do you do it when you're weaning, it's just gradually reduce the dosage, the daily dosage and then doing it every other day and then it's gone, but they have a protocol, yeah, yeah and so did he discourages. You know I doctor was used as excited about it. So that's great congratulations. Good could you know said, but you know keep keep in touch in well doctor to write yeah yeah, so I guess so he had to think he had a reflector on his head. That's all you know what happens is yeah DR yep yep lab coat yeah. He was like you know in his legs. I think he lives in the neighborhood he's always walking around outside lets him yeah as a doctor, so so We did it, and so now I'm about a month. I'm about then without any antidepressant. What what is the difference? I don't really know yeah. I mean it's hard to feel different age. It uh
if feel more emotional You know I kept crying at the Oscars really all of it go ahead. Kevin Hart host, but I definitely more, I think, I'm more emotional about connected, but yeah. And you know on the source you have, then is a you know. Hopefully I mean I hopefully that's I'm part of a lasting and I hope it will help with writing, because I felt like I was having trouble coming up with story. Ideas yeah. You do hug me too long now, yeah yeah what I would become a predator, that's what it is yeah, but I feel good about it. Z, four. In fact when so the only thing is emotions and you feel more creative. You feel more in touch, I don't know yet I don't know- and I don't even know if I feel I just know- I I definitely know, there's a there's. A heightened emotionalism moon has affected your improvised awhile.
And it doesn't seem to have that was worried it would. I was worried that I would be the I like that I might not be able to go out and do those shows, because I'd be more. My those were the might be more moody, and you know yeah yeah yeah, but so far. It hasn't affected them. Um went on and news radio 'cause, I couldn't work at one point. I got the point right couldn't work anymore and that's when I started going on it antidepressants and save me. You know so totally believe people should get on meds and stay on them you know is: it definitely helps some people. I mean it's saved a couple of my friends for sure yeah there were suicidal and just really didn't know return, they got the right ones and you know they had experiment yeah. I don't think I would have made it through that these the end of the two thousands really, while you know- and maybe you know like- we just lost brightest means just yell died. He got on his yeah. He didn't like the way it felt to be on them, and
It was so that he's so hard that such a hard one to take because everyone loved guy, and he think that everyone I mean he has no haters. I don't know A single person was like that. Guy was a dick, no, no, no one! Everyone loved him and everybody really hard from close friends to people who just Numa little bit like. I knew him just a little bit. He was so sweet, but he was so so tortured. He was just in pain all the time and yeah. It's just it's so strange that you think the thing that people like most is for other people to love them and care about them. Everybody loves Brody now, but yet he couldn't just couldn't go go on, but I never I've. Never known Brody to have a relationship never known him to have. Special someone in his life- and I mean alone yeah, probably be very, very the process he well, especially, if everyone loves you, but you don't feel connected to any of them,
like how empty that feels, and that's yeah the core of depression, name yeah. But it's also the core of depression. I have is having had depression yeah, one of the things that hits you is that feeling you just can't connect and is your is your is coming about when your first marriage was breaking up. I mean I have lifelong depression, but I didn't get it treated until that point. When I was like you know, it's like yeah because of the marriage is breaking up and I had a flight at like Africa. To lights in a month to see my kids and you remember the time that I protected a reporter from you all at the tc yeah he was on malaria, medication and drinking with you will, let you know super sweet Kind, Dave was was to kick someones and I live, They had like hold on him and I want to see that when I had so the other thing I just been to been flown to Africa twice and just got back. We did the Tcs, and I think I also threw a glass at
my hands, the owning owning Tony Tony Jesus and far come blanking. Terribly sorry, dude, Randall, Tony Jesus, I love took, turns a great guy, but I was like out of my skull and I just yeah those those are part right, the check his report, you took his tape, recorder and dunked in a drink yeah like threatened to kick his ass yeah 'cause, I was yeah, I was drunk and yeah I was like. Oh my god, don't do something I miss stop this. This is crazy, accused ends in yeah yeah, but it was after that that that is one on the anti depressants Rasht really hard after that and I Are you ready to go to work? It won't do anything. You are experience thing. That combination apparently of the malaria, medication and alcohol is like a crazy combination, yeah, and then you add to that jet lag
and the trauma of being separated from my kids yeah yeah, the malaria pills on their own yeah, you mentally ill, the things I love her yeah yeah. I left Harari to the sound of my my my eldest child. Screaming daddy, don't go yeah, which, even now I can't talk about See it's worth having no, no, it isn't yeah yeah have a seventeen year old. Yeah it's good. They are on their own now. Basically in the year, you can start him off yeah, that's right! Next year he's going to college. But anyway, if you are out there get on meds and stay yeah, like Brody should've, stayed on his meds. Well, you know I just I wish we could have. Well known and how he was and how close he was to that yeah. Well, that's the thing it's like people think like like
side things like if you're close to suicide is the most rational choice you'll ever make when you're when you're, that close it just seems like the most sensible way to deal with the issues, because it's otherwise it's too much pain. Yeah. I heard someone describe it as not even an emotional decision running it's jumping out of a burning building, yeah yeah. It's like there's that choice into the burning building or yeah Was that feeling great where you go? This is not an emotional decision. I make no choice. I've had two friends hang themselves this year, yeah yeah yeah, that that is, I never thought I would ever say that man. I never thought that that would be a way that people would be going out either yeah our member would be at Drake say there. Yeah aw. He was hard yeah. That was a horrible and I I've. I knew Drake back in the, but my best, actually my open MIKE days yeah. He was and establish comedian in Boston, and I was just starting out hello
yeah, but so, even though I'm happy that my brain injury yeah seems to have cured my depression, that's fucking, crazy. You know but brain injury was responsible for SAM Kinison and car crash right? got hit by a car. When he's a kid and became his wild man yeah same thing with Roseanne, I mean one of the reasons why I want to have Roseanne on the podcast and talk about her issue with her television show and everything in her outbursts and all the crazy stuff she says on Twitter, yeah 'cause. I know her and I know her past, and so I right away the beginning of the podcast. It was like, let's get into what happened to you and it's, I don't think she talked about it that much she was hit by a car. She was in a fucking catch a psychiatric ward for nine months, yeah like she was gone and she was never the same person again Missus. She was fifteen years old and nine long walking across the street and someone had glare and their eyes from the sun. The did yeah here hit her with the car, the fucking, the hood ornament, went into her head. I mean she had a severe brain injury. She
couldn't count anymore. She couldn't do math anymore. She was. She was a very smart student before then and then crippled by. It afterwards and then for nine months. She was in a psych ward and she talked about it. I'm like people to know like this, Everybody knows that they know. Now if we have more than they knew then, but people that work with her it's when they were writing or off my Jesus Christ. This is like taking a personal day, leg and saying you know, I'm mad at you that you can't run yeah and this thing in like whatever you're I mean, obviously brazilian said some crazy terrible things and and messed up a lot of people's lives, but she's also a gene. Just some comedic genius. She also made that show. One of the best shows on tv when it was regionally on the Itv she's always increase. Should you might want to grab your crotch and spit when she did the national anthem, everybody hater, then they went crazy. This is like yeah early, two thousand. She
She was always wild, but then why she was so good. As a comment was their appeal, she did not give a fuck, I'm predictable, yeah like just wild, and that is like innocent and it came out of head injuries it's a lot less well, there was the famous or the guy who was working in a mine. There was an explosion and, like rebar, went through his brain and they said before they were nice again after that he became they said he became evil. He was just an evil person after this free bar went through strain, and I mean this also happens yeah and with the Texas School Book Depository Shooter, not wasn't school book Depository Mccann yeah this tab, Texas, Tower Shooter, yeah, Texas, Tower Shooter had a brain tumor. I am the founder and after he died like so that. Well, this is what it was yeah, but also people who have suffered brain injuries and come out of it being able to speak French. Yes, yes or no played piano. Yes, yes, my network probably have a brain injury, but right.
Yeah or people that, like suddenly can paint photo realistic, paintings, yeah yeah. I have never had any artistic ability before, but they were brain injury yeah and it unlocks it well, you're all I got with sobriety how cool springs ample? How it's amazing, though it does happen for real well, yeah they can learn it quicker. I think I don't think they know it. It'll come out knowing it. No I mean I don't want the panel guy. I've heard of the I think, literally could sit down and down could knew what to do well, there's certain things that happen right if people have certain spectrum issues right where they are far better at math, It's far worse at social interactions, there's there's pathways, that are more lubed for you to figure things now that aren't as confused by social issues or or social stigmas or just
human communication yeah, and I think ours, people historian lot of more like a lot of them out of the super geniuses runs vector line, is nine. Didn't speak to Lee was fine Jesus yeah yeah. They they thought he was. They thought he was. He was mentally retarded wow yeah does back when he sees that were tests right, yeah. Now you can get trouble yeah when you had a head injury, so how may which time was it before you felt like? Did you just stop drinking on spot yeah. I it gives December twenty second number Jackie was yeah. I want to visit you and you and remember it was how Why? Right? There were going on no New York NY. I was going to go to New York, Christina Lena to New York, near for us for the holidays for Christmas and New year's. My wife is like now you're, not because you did this, you don't get to go to New York with your with your family and they went. They went even though he, but you know, but
and again, Chrissy and I woke up in the Icu and Christina Lena. Were there and we celebrated Christmas in the Icu wow. You know and was a pivotal moment. Yeah yeah so You just decided on the spot, no more drinking yeah just said. Alright, I'm going to think I'm done, and and again I was preparing 'cause I'd put a few years earlier, quakes, but maybe eight years- I tried quitting drinking? You told me about this. You were talking to me about pot. You talking about even like I gotta stop drinking. How far did you get I went a year and a half for the drinking. I think that's pretty good yeah, but I hate it. I hate it, but I hated every minute of it really yeah. It was like every every day. I thought it would be nice to drink everyday. You just hung in there for a few one hundred days, yeah. Well, you know pretty good. Like this time yeah, but even now like I'll still let go. Oh, I think, yeah I do miss Scotch taste of Scac. You know work so hard to learn to like it, and you know you really, like
yeah and what it, what are the positive benefits of not drinking of not drinking. You don't hit me now, that's only positive for you Paul. That's true. I thought we really didn't really affect me, yeah, whatever. I think the not that that I don't do any, into unknowingly embarrassed, my daughter. If I'm going to embarrass my daughter now, it's deliberate that yeah this mostly just you know remembering things knowing where I was the night before now I don't drink, and I embarrass my son every single day by walking. Yeah, this is just being yeah just being next to him. Yeah! It's like come on dad. Do you think or a genetic alcoholic, or is this like a learned saying? Well it's hard to say because it I mean I was the alcoholism runs in my family, but is that just because you know we were raised by a alcoholic. You think it's genetically
in an action can this probably tonight just a predisposition to it yeah. I think, there's genetic connections to almost all behavior yeah yeah yeah. I don't think a you know, I'm yeah, I don't think, there's a there's a lot of real free will right, yeah, I'm! But I've come to that. More and more as I get older, I mean I I I battle with, because obviously there are conscious choices you can make an yeah, especially when you did. You know really make an effort to move into a certain path of the way of the thinking and believing, but what causing that yeah. How many of his life experience you can make conscious efforts to- and I guess, Mmhm ameliorate, the influences of your jeans. Yes, but it's like it's like you: can you can live healthy, eat, healthy and avoid risks and and you're still gonna probably die around a hundred at best at best to everything goes great unless some new advanced yeah we're going far that guy yeah- and we very well. Could we very well.
I mean I had David Sinclair from Harvard on two weeks ago: who's a life extension specialist to started fascinating schitt stop those tell accidents happen often, but I remember at the at the the notion, because people always talk about your human lifespan. Is we used to live to be forty on air? human lifespan hasn't changed at all since, since essentially the beginnings of human beings hasn't changed at all? The oldest possible lifespan is still exactly the same. It was you know. Fifty thousand years ago, yeah, you know it has. His people got it just more people, fewer people are dying young right. People are living close to their potential and a lot of that is infant mortality. If you yeah the actual statistics, the reason why it's so low yeah- I was not necessarily that no one lived to be sixty five backed up one thousand years ago, yeah baby
Yes, right now, since have years ago, people did live to be over a hundred yeah, but back then it's your foot and then died two weeks later yeah. I know what I mean yes, yeah, but imagine bus, but maximum human lifespan hasn't changed at all and that's the thing that maybe is going to start. Do you exercise at all, never Never ever in your life right. I mean there's a kid. I like sports, never let go for a hike or anything very rarely very feel really good. I probably would yeah it- will relieve a lot of tension. I just mean just a little high that yeah, you know you don't have to anything crazy yeah. Now I keep mean especially now that I'm, I think not just getting older but actually old. Yes, No, I'm actually old did we were young when we met, I know old people. I know if a kid sees us I know this is old dudes in their 50s yeah, we're old, dudes yeah. It's crazy, I'm yeah, I'm weird! I'm almost six thousand and fifty six, that's almost sixty it is. You know it's closing in line yeah and I'm a terrible looking thirty nine, it's group, which is good, though
It gives you a in this business it's like. That's why Steve directly yeah! That's why Steve Martin, good cuz, he never look. Young listen to like books on tape and walk. It's great man. You know just find a place that go Runyon, Canyon, just go walking it's so nice, because you can do it at your own pace now so good elevate, your heart rate without anything crazy. Now enough to go to a lawyer now yeah joining nuts yeah, and I mean I've started amaze eleven on the road, so I have been doing on the road, but I have it like started doing like some like light weight, lifting and not a great great yeah yeah, you know just hire. Someone feels don't let them forming your house and tell you to do it. I think that's the way to do it. I'm not making it through their one thousand. Am you oh hi Bob our way out of it, yeah yeah yeah get some. Russian lady yells at you. That sounds great great. Now, there's
this divorce are you still doing standup? I know you're doing stand up for a little bit. You know what I am going to have to come up again. No ok, alright, last one, but now it stopped stopped. Once I get Doctor KEN, ok no, I stopped doing stand up once you get the television yeah yeah. I love that guy. I don't see him enough. It's cool to see you too guys together. It is you know, 'cause! That's I don't want to say it's a lifetime ago, but it's a lifetime, but those are In your 20s and 30s, oh yeah, I mean it was a totally different human being. It was twenty seven. You were one hundred percent. What's yeah yeah, I guess I was crazy. I was I was completely insane. What was the switch for you. Well, I got older and wiser and realize how fucking stupid it was, but So I was only a few years removed from fighting. You know when I
started doing news. Radio is only like five years removed from my last fight and I still was sparring so still getting hit in the head a lot. Would you like come into work with the with face full of bruises? No, not that I started doing Jujitsu Cimarron NEWS Radio to run ninety six, so that was like the I stopped release, kickboxing very much after that, and then I think I stopped entirely when I was like thirty. I just realized like this is going to stop I'll stop doing this. So you were it's more. You like, this fat guy that just left it all behind over you're always did you always keep it up? I work out for sanity of always worked out for us and a lot of people do that. I need it. You know for whatever it is, and also like My personality was sort of forged by having these moments of clarity after extreme exertion. You know those those My personal is formed that way like if I had a problem. If I had something that I was dealing with
I would just blow it out at the gym and then I'd have a better look at it and probably wind up calling someone apologizing or something interesting. So it's like it's like a brush of oxygen to the brain yeah well rush, rush of oxygen in the brain and maybe even more important, more important that uhm? draining of excess energy right, because I think you once you, if you develop a certain way like I did martial arts, literally most of my adult life and growing life up until that point so my my body had sorted developed with his need for that exertion. In order to have clarity, and so I just MIKE this is my formula: I'm sticking with it, so I never let it go. It's amazing that you did stick that you've never gone away from that. I chant that's the one. If I do, I won't think right. I don't think right. I think way I think so much better when
exercise, I mean there's no comparison. It's like a pill. I did this sober October. Fitness challenge things with my friends in October and we went crazy, were working out like three hours a day, 'cause we're wearing these. Monitors and one of the things that I read 'cause we're trying to get a certain score and whoever got the highest score. One. One of the things that I recognize from that was that the more I did in terms of cardio, especially the last things bothered me. More more clarity. I had the more peaceful I felt, the more at ease. I felt no don't know internal chatter. You know just thing come from however, I mean everybody has their own biological makeup and for me my my biological, makeup this entirely. Just forget all the health benefits from it is it's a giant performance of my mind. Actually we will exercise, know a friend of mine said sitting is the new smoking yeah there. We see that because that does that make you believe that, for you, it's a compression of your dick
for sure the special your lower back, and if you don't have good posture, it's not good, but you can mitigate it with exercise. You know just gotta make sure that you don't only sit. You know, stretch yourself out, take a yoga class, I'm liking this. I should be writing this down seriously, Do you do any exercising I'm starting a more I I found out and it's hilarious. I would like to have kind of a had a golf back injury type thing coughs like we swing that flicker there's a lot, it's hard, it's hard in your back! So I go. I go to the doctor and x rays me and I frequent scoliosis that I never knew why all my life on the bottom of my spine when do about that laugh at me by the way I'm in there with my wife, Jackie? Well, while he brings in the x rays, put him up in the thing goes.
Buddy, you got scoliosis and she bursts out laughing now every day says: that's why you walk that. My God for real. Oh that's, hilarious! Every school at some point had when the one hot girl with scoliosis at the head gear every school I we go. She did have the head gear and she's really hot the head of head gear for school. You! Yes again, they give this a try to straighten out an act that had metal home like metal rods. Then you the head, yeah. I thought that was a broken. Now I was a single. This is that's a neck yeah whole chest thing. Yes, as a kind of big plastic yeah that should wear to keep of like spine surgery. Two years is not work. I sure I guess, on it should it is anti itch now. What do you do with a latch issue? I is still the same thing and he I had a meeting with the the specialist and he's like well, I like operating on
I like that's what I do when I got into this is not like I like cutting them when they're asleep, but you know you could do some exercises and so You know physical therapy and stuff to alleviate it and if it gets so bad down the road I can maybe help me out with some rods? you went in there because there was an initial issue I had I had like issues when I was young when I used to like track and field and stuff, I would get like a pain in an area and then it kind of went away most of my life, then I started golfing and then I golf more and more and then one day I didn't warm up I did a twist and it just freaking yeah and it was in a certain spot and I went, and it was like you've always had this condition, but does picture of Paul. I know I look terrible, that's a stray.
Wow. That's a lawyer! If that's what we're going on this deck like x, getting constricted! Second, that's that's something made where on in the as always the costume from TLC actually do. We would have more yeah yeah yeah in his androgynous phase, yeah yeah. They said I just got to suck it up and exercise and get a strong core, and I should be take yoga. As I gotta I got to do. I keep hearing for old people. You do all the time yeah just started as an old person. No, I did when I was younger and then I didn't do it seriously until about three hundred four years ago, then done now, yeah, because you always have martial art yeah, you know silly yoga was for people that just were too lazy for martial arts known yogas yoga does some things that really enhance martial arts yeah? Are you a hot yoga guy yeah I like that stuff elected that seems like torture to me, it is a the torture, but it's really good for you, because your body produces heat shock, proteins that are similar to when you go into a sauna feels
when you come out of there, you feel great, but it's also really good for information. Just the act of doing it and sell itself in the extreme heat like sauna would be amazing for you too. For that reason, and when he with this woman named Dr Rhonda, Patrick, that's a regular on the show I ever on all the time and she's genius, but she's a huge believe or in sauna an they did a study in Mozilla, Sweden or Someshit, where they took people. With Regular Sony's use versus not in the regular sauna use, had a forty percent decrease in all cause. Mortality. Heart attack stroke cancer, yes, because but when you regular, using at twenty minutes a day for four days a week with their essentially saying- is that your body producing those heat, shock, proteins and those side achenes twenty minutes yoga, no, no, no heat heat, Tony just suddenly, he sitting in Sonic going into the office on out here sit in twenty minutes. That just doing that is because, almost
all ailments and issues and deal with the permission yeah. Well, I that's a I. I have to pinch nerves right now and, like her need, disks- and they were like- I was like like on the couch like two months from your injury, no, I don't, I don't think it was. I don't know what it was, but it was uh it may have been. It may have been, but it was like one day it just started my arm, my arm started hurting top down towards your neck yeah. It's like turn in here and herniated discs are makes sense, yeah, sciatica type thing yeah and they as lower right yeah. That's your lower back, but the yeah like for her two months, my arm, my arm, my entire arm felt like it was going to explode the fella. There was this pressure building up in it and it was literally a click is gonna explode and- and I was getting like when the couple a the kind of the
shots. You get when your car is under having a editor. I was getting under all shot, so we're doing nothing else taken sixteen Advil today she says: that's best tires. Take that and I was getting no pain relief all from it and then I started using c b d bomb and think that it was gone amazing like and even as a you know, I couldn't I couldn't do any of for two solid months. I couldn't get off the couch cd's incredible yeah. I use that stuff so much I got that rubbing stuff, that's great, and it makes it better for about two days My friend HANS though he told me he has a shortage recent shoulder surgery and he said everybody likes to you the rub stop, but you really should take it with the edible stuff, like oil oral. A b d and a row of Rob stuff works together. I don't think yeah I started. I had the the cream known just as a pop yeah. I
that I've read and then I started using the tincture with it. We have some here if you want yeah case in the back, that that case is given to us by stayed weed yeah that they'll call best prices of marijuana? Now, that's a lot of ways: crazy and here's the thing, so I start taking the tincture along with the cream. Yes, perfect, my arthritis went away too this meant? I could I couldn't bend my hand well Like that's gone, my information you need my arthritis in my knee is completely gone it'll go away even further. If you cut out sugar I did not get bread, I did that I felt fantastic that was gone. Crazy ourselves. Our whole lives a poison. Absolutely so the weather going quit drinking. I wanted more sugar, oh yeah
that? Because I know I've never had a sweet tooth really, but when the going to quit drinking I suddenly was craving that won't quit chorus. Yeah makes sense, I should go back to zero sugar. I went zero sugar for awhile and it felt amazing I'm just like little tiny bits here and there did twenty. I do. I had dessert Saturday night had a big old cake with ice cream on it after dinner. So so no sugar. When a date with the wife at Mastro's, we had this fat steak and then I got this butter cake with sour cream and almost delicious sounds great, so good, so good. Ok, I thought so good, so good, They noted that sounds amazing and occasionally you gotta say fuckit yeah, but I just for the most part, I'm like an eighty twenty died. Eighty percent of it is super healthy and then the twenty percent is occasionally wrestling off yeah yeah. I'm saying that that the two two one five fasting yeah two days a week, you do like six and our calories, the rest of
you can do whatever you want, I'm on the seven hundred and seven pig out I do a intermittent fasting, so every night, if I no have dinner at seven pm. You know I don't eat anything for sixteen hours. The other ones are Passover, an yeah. Sorry, yeah close your eyes out. I, like my cholesterol, just drop through the floor in it yeah when I, when I did that, but I have been doing it lately. Yeah boys, we just did three hours Oh my god did we do this more often, I'd like taxes are only our second podcast ever believer, not crazy, yeah and I'm in much better shape. This time, yeah great man, everything is wonderful. Yeah tell people the name of your podcast in Reed, says, don't say with Paul and Dave So once you get there be warned it's it's don't say, can still take time for the holiday, but we can't put that in print and give away or Instagram hand I am into all Greenberg one. That's e r g and I'm just a full.
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