Eddie Izzard is a British stand-up comedian, actor, writer and political activist. He's currently on a world tour with his show "WUNDERBAR" and can be seen in the US this summer.
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press, that's what they're called. Is it cold, but it's. I think it's called cavity air, but it's probably going to coffee, but that makes sense it is a french word for that. We just ignore here in America they did a lot of the food. You know, because you have herbs. You know- and I used to do this by the material which I agree enjoyed, saying you, the the division, british and american. You say this is Serra and at u say herbs and we say herbs because is a fucking engine. It right and I used to, but- and I thought why is the eighth dropped off for America? I think it's because put a lot of french guys would have come over immigration and they would have done a lot of cooking. You know at least elves. Are they cut the HF totally? So I think it an influence from there. Probably Julia child. So Joshua French yeah. I think wasn't she she is now I mean choosing to french cooking, alright
Ok, but it was worth it. Maybe that's why I sit next to Washington, so we will use albs with this stuff here and then we could do the revolutionary war and then then you guys are win and then they will hate each We also you guys also do a lot of weird stuff where you put like a you and color, and w tires. What do you put opires yeah. I think we had first dibs, language yeah. I don't understand what we did know what you got on the guys got on the Mayflower and they said. Ok, we're going to talk like this forever. They would a lot and we're going, get put the Y in tires, who invented cars, get rid of the one yeah. I just think are you in color and honor is? Are you an honor as well and we've got it and you've got it out, Yours is more logical, for honor yeah, I'm not for herbs herbs is a small fringe of agree.
Yeah. I always wondered 'cause, I grew up in Boston and I always wondered like those were the first people to leave England and Europe like what the fuck happened to their language as they developed the most disgusting brand of it. Well, you've got your as your boss, today's which I can't hear strong Boston coming out of yeah. I got rid of it. I heard myself on television once when I was like nineteen years old. I was like holy shit. What is that? What you guys had or used to have their mother father, I said, and we mother, mother, Father sister, we don't have our at the end. Of a mother brother sister, and you is now that yeah we say mother, the is it a mother in and he the rest. America has a has a much stronger. An island has that that's a very irish influenced thing and for us the odd. With playing when I'm playing American. I was in in a doing roles like that. The r was the hardest thing to get.
Or hard Tara member friend saying he has cooking this thing. That came out like hard hard tar, and I thought that is the one to practice. 'cause that is just hard hard. Tara, Reid, called it hard hard time which is just doesn't sound. Do you spend a lot of time of the I don't don't don't come. I've ever spent in England is working like a little bit of. Down time. Doing stand up in and hang out over there, but most of it's just been working. You know I work for the UFC or I never really get a chance to really spend time in England, I'd like to to do that. Just to kind of understand you folks well, I'm a different breed, the I think the base, having played forty five countries now I think everyone is actually the same when you get down below level. But you know if you're going to reach for you It's going to be a number of things which would make it seem different brand names will be different than the sports. Does everyone sports devil's policies and serving that kind of thing, but underneath it all it's going to be there's going to be more mainstream people going out
the people and the whole spectrum now like in the old days it used to be everything was mainstream and a bit of alternative. Now we I think you'll come to MIKE and we have a whole spectrum of what's interest. People is, much more open in that way. Yeah. I certainly agree we yeah it's. The collection of people is very similar. It's just there operating in a different environment, different theater, right, yeah, yeah and at you know we a tightly smashed together would be sixty five million in your three hundred million and use such a large, your countries so large compared to us now, because it was a thing of ten items that Americans have possibles. But if you. Look at aerial something like that, but then, if you look at where the temper sent can go in America, it's just so huge, so it's slightly more understandable. Why a lot of Americans say I don't need a possible 'cause, I'm going to that place, which is that's understanding of you, but I think you know, Do everybody good to go
somewhere like like Asia, every time I go to Asia. I always think. Ok, people like this too. This is an interesting thing to experience Thailand in particular to really loved right. Thailand is it's amazing because it's like wow they they might take a hit like this perfect frequency or everybody's, really friendly and really nice, and it's it's a You they called the land of smiles. Smiles is very unusual environment. There with everybody, seems like warm and greeting. I don't think, ran into one rude tie. While I was there, sounds very interesting and I've I've when I stood azure but but unfortunate kind of in yeah. I don't know, but that's interesting times more than any other because I sure they must have a black market and that thing and and some gangs of some type yeah. I did a very nice gangsters there than This is gangsters, we know, sure there not ask you first before they shoot, you
I'm sure when it gets to the drug smuggling and yeah sex trafficking and all the other day, but would you mind awfully polite drugs side with? They have obviously a very open environment when you go to see C Bangkok, it's like Molly Fights and Kay us in a lot of expats wandering around drinking it's. You know there the different sort of world over there. But when I was there I was in Chiang Mai, and it's just super friendly people, beautiful landscape, very nice have you been in Vietnam. No, never heard it's amazing though, but yeah I mean I find that from american perspective would be very interesting people going there, even if they were there before and during the time of war. After just to see how people are 'cause, they fought for so long as there's all the french stuff before that the internal, but even before America got involved and they call it one thousand year war that they thought
anyways interest- it's I I I hope new generations coming along, don't bring the baggage of before. Have you had previous generations and- and we can old, move, try move forward in a well that's more positive, even yeah. It doesn't necessarily look like that. Well, What has always been really interesting to me about Vietnam that I learned from Bourdain was that they they don't hold any grudges towards Americans, which I find incredible. I think I got that sense of it. I have not played them in there, but I got that sense that they were looking forward. They just accept it is the past and they don't have any grudges and just like it's an amazing attitude, it is amazing. This year. I suppose it's better. If you they did. The empirical Anna is empirical in the in the count as they do like don't massive conquer in the in America left, and so they got what they were. I assume the majority of them were trying to get. You know yeah, they can run it. However, they want to run it. But yes,
It's it's tragic things the was going to. I was going to be in the military. When I was a kid that was one of my. I want to be in special forces and are you looking for you now being transgender guy with that yeah? That was when I was on a trouble Let me in right now, if I want to apply the right this second but yeah, So I follow everything I could have run my life on military. That sounds a bit weird. I run my career in the military. Think it's quite difficult to any career together kind of weird. What's your next move, so you'll you'll, extravaganza, yell, yeah, It was I plan fifty years ahead, really yeah. If you think about how much I can as transgender thirty four years ago. That's not the first good thing that agent wants to hit your trans, gender, that's a hi. This is such a thing. This is even now they would say: okay. Well, it's got a little better than it was five five, five, ten millennia.
This is a little better now, but it's still not the hottest ticket that everyone is. We want transgender guys in here for this, that the other is not the top of the list, and I've also got boy mode in girl mode, and I do for dramatic, dramatic films in boy mode and then I'm touring a girl mode and doing stand up, and I campaign for politics I just how do you do that? I just switch change. You know: take off hills flat, shoes yeah, because if you were just talking like if you didn't have make up on and you didn't have the heels in the nails you just seem mail, yeah, yeah, well, it's I think it's genetically and built. You know, there's some. I think, there's quite a lot of people. Maybe the a light. They live their lives, they have their own personality than on particular male or female Mmhm. I feel, but I feel I've always for
well since I was four or five. I wanted to express this side of myself an it's built in. I think it's genetic um, if you analyze masculine family, and if you really get down to it, you know it's. I find it impossible to come up with anything that was particularly masculine, particularly, except for the ability to build muscle. Mass is easier for men in the most that say, it would be a great football is a sucker plays minimum in athletics, run as men, women, strong character, man's weak character, sure men, women method, choose whatever, whatever it is, there's nothing that you can really say odd. That is only good shot with a gun. Now anyone could do that. It's world humans, and so and we get fixated by the masculine feminine, which is a TIGERS, tigers, attacking you and trying to kill you you don't get now. Is this a girl tiger aboard target? We don't care about it and they don't care either so. You've always felt like you gravitate.
Towards feminine things store now gravitate towards both. I I had I gravitate towards playing soccer. I was in the first team for two years when I was a kid was plan. Going to officer training, Corongo, Marines or Paris and then go into special forces are SAS, which would be the equivalent of your delta force, um and that was a distinct plowing. Your lot about that and I thought which were going to send me to actually which one I sent it and it could be the idiots that I'm at school with will send me to the wrong war in world war. Two is very clear and then, after that, every other ways, hazy, but there's all this. Inside girl side, I'm not sure how to do it. The articular, even after thirty four years, it's difficult to articulate, but I wanted to express that and if I look more like a woman than I you know it, it would be much easier but
yeah. So I decided to do that in ninety five when it wasn't cool- and I got mad a lot of fights in the street- a lot of people screaming abuse at Maine, um, taken color people to court or just reported in police, and then we went to court and yeah and you fight you fight your fight. So, instead of going to do a military fighting thing, I've I've done I've said this might be wrong for me to say this by say: special forces, civilian division, you know fighting the listings. You have people, think about performing for languages. I've run over a few marathons going the politics next year, and and yet- and I came home and the transgender thing is it's in a better place and it was Back in eighty five, well it certainly now. I think, because of Caitlyn Jenner and the the movement
that you're seeing to accept people that want to do whatever and anything you want to do yeah. It is just more accepting of each other. We do seem to be more um. What's the weather begins with a t, mobile open, more allowing there's a word for it was just walked over my head, but I mean that would but yeah and at the same time, people going around doing more killings and stuff. At the same time, what there's more people It's just it's just sheer volume of human population growth is insane. It's too. It's like two hundred thousand years to get to one billion yeah, and then it's taken us six hundred and fifty years to get to seven one slash two billion, which is scary yeah. When I was a kid. I think the United States population was less than two hundred million now it's three hundred million global was
whatever it was now, it's seven plus bordering eight million people I came out. I think it was six point. Five, I think that's just running away and one of the way things is if, if we are having less wars, if we're getting better health to people than mole, around and some people in in the end, I suppose low income backgrounds and around the world they will say. Well, we need to have six kids, because that's what in the former for work much money, yeah, that's what we do, but as he can always get better people have less case and that hopefully, that should calm down there should be a but Jamie. I think they feel yeah leveling off of the coverage. You have read the theory that they believe that industrialized nations and western I society when people start having two careers, you know and then to to create households. People are less likely to have a bunch of kids yeah. So as people do better, they have less kids, yeah
Yes, so I'm I'm a guy. I I'm a glass is two thirds full person. That structure of a glass is half full poverty person. So your optimist, I'm a big I need to. I couldn't be here: yeah in the hills, with the nailed. I'm planning to do this going to film coming out then during the country and then I'm going to politics as well. When you first started wearing It's close and dresses and make up on stage and people think it was a gimmick. What would they think they do? I did the I I decided not to go in women's clothes, just like to say that that might I would just wear dresses like women can wear trousers or pants. Used to call hi men's pants, and I found at times so, but yet with the foot. I first of the talking about it and not wearing anything again. Look on a boy like and my like, and then you were talking about it like I, I have a question. This is my first average
I have this right. Two years before you have it. I said that you didn't stand up so if you're from a minority is kind of a good thing. So if you use instead of term so it You are from low income. Ground, you say: rich people got there, so easy for them as your warm using man. Oh man from ethnic background is white paper toilet yeah? So if you're white male middle class stand out right useless, so thank God, I'm a transvestite That was my first love and everyone thought he's making jokes about something. That is not you know, and they wouldn't believe me and journals were going. I don't know why he's doing this 'cause he's doing pretty well now, but this is, I don't know. Is this a joke? So I thought I better. Wear a dress is put Jamaica. And then they said. Ok he's doing this, he is serious, but he looks a mess is kind of baby something I was doing a
to fail a lot and there's a humiliation period. I mean this is the weird thing about coming out. It's kind of humiliating people say you look at people say horrible things. They say what the fuck is that somebody said to my face right there as I was walking out of a restaurant. So I thought that's an advantage ice and you have to be able to deflect can go well that Europe is your scumbag, so vacuum and sewing mostly men. Yeah and occasionally women, cage, nude women, but yeah I mean it's low people have lower character that, unless a character, if you're strong character in yourself, you you don't get living that live what the hell. You know, people ok, doesn't look like together. But you know life is tough enough, but if If you want to put someone that you raise your own status but and they will do and so I have stood in the street and people on low did it in a swear words invective to me and I've just I've long you in about a minute ago what you'll find, a bug you Anna Man, data- and it literally you know too-
three of them or wanted me just screaming at each other, and I just won't back down now. This happened recently was nine months ago. Someone outside my house in London just having a go at me, He knew who you are as well yeah. They did. They knew exactly where they were lives that we're gonna do your house is on. This is that I feel, in the hand, is, is also my west because- this is the way you dress. Well, it was he I did that into it. There wasn't. There was an altercation over. I was just packing my car 'cause. I was just driving home and see my dad and seventeen you got to give me a ride in your car. I said I know. There's someone heckles me like that in the street I just come back with. You will never have a ride in my car I have to one of you so that happened and then this guy went off and the end of this and that and the other one it is just screaming at me, and so on. Shout back at him giving him word for word, and then I is it. Who is that idiot and they said oh that's. This guys are known as a matter you know he's just he does. This went alright
maybe I should mention explicitly given to my. I mentioned it to the police. Now, with about two weeks later same thing. Who is shouting at me now it's the same Dick So I thought right next time I go now. He knows where you live, what he Is there he is right in front of the house? That's always fun. Isn't it yeah? Well- and he said we're going to do your housework anyway, so this was that was his opening. Gambit were going to your house when you're aware I think, they're letting you know there're coward yeah it was. It was very positive. He didn't want to pay our company, I don't think that's kind of terrorism right trying to strike terror in you when you're away well yeah. That with that is that, yes, that is the hatred thing is. Is that the thing about just going out there and fucking him up. I don't think I'm quite that I would have liked if I've gone through the military thing of a gun that I would learn how to do that. You know I've never have crab. My guard myself up to the thing I you need to grab my Garman stuff up, but I haven't got there. So
well, I see we were talking before and you were trying to tell me you were lazy and like to fuck I saw that thing that you did documented, where you ran a seer of marathons in a row with no training at All- and I remember thinking before that- this opinion of you and the opinion of you was you're funny guy here, the comedian. You you you have a good stand up. You obviously work hard at it, but then I saw that and I was like oh ok, there's something going on there like. It is a different kind of human being, the kind of human being that could push them selves into doing that day after, today and I looked at your feet. Will your skin was literally falling off here? keeping everything up and that's a that's a person That's got you have an iron will like that, very unusual will for a comedian who doesn't really exercise like when we're doing I mean you were me exercise a little bit, but you weren't in shape now
You decided to run how many marathons as well. Was it the? U K one: was it the first one yeah? That was forty? Three and fifty one days for these three marathons in a row in fifty one days with no training, and it definitely. I did have ten at six weeks- training yeah, which is not a law, but they did they He said that you know. Sometimes if you run a marathon, you should train for nine months before that yeah and I thought well, if I'm going to do forty three that's going to be, I would be training forever and I can't be bothered with that. So you know it's happening in your civil war in may be in, and he will. I don't consult so encyclopedia about use of one and revolution which a bit and beats what what to but- on the spot, training training as you go along. That's what I did the first ten marathons trains you for the next thirty three What was it like when you got over the first day, though the first- this is. My first is ok, but my first day is ok because well it's all in your head, there's a more mental than it is physical, and so the first method, I've heard of people.
Mountains run walk staggered, not very fast will get it done, but the second marathon is weird 'cause. You go, I've done one I'm on the second and you can't really rejoice. You can't punch the sky. You can't put a metal any of that you. You got up at five hundred or six hundred in the morning and yeah. It's midday and you're, going through your second one and get through the third one, and then you through the fourth and then it was raining and my feet shredding and I oyster yeah. It was yes, we made it to solve yeah and they were. Rubbing on the on the running shoes and what I did I didn't know how to how do I fix it when I'm actually wearing on it all the time too so bathing in surgical spirit, which you call something else? It's it's. It's a Ethel Mathematics, anyways, it's some sort of alcoholic spirit and it's it takes the moisture out of your feet, and so we became like stones. It's come up with some.
Anyway, if anyone dozens of surgical space, if you Google, it now you'll see what it's called in America, but it's it's some sort of alcoholic thing that that just removes moisture, and so it made my feet my toes like little stones, I kind of tough and actually that got us through, and then I started and also apparently because the twenty seven mountains in twenty seven days in South Africa in twenty sixteen- and that was the temperatures- were crazy on that. But it seems that the but it will switch on a healing property that we've got latent in ourselves, that we don't use an you, will heal quicker. You will heal faster, the more you get. So I got you get stronger in both the british One and the south african one. I got stronger as I went on really the first ten days of the key thing and after that, it's kind of easy you're used to your body just had absolutely understands yep this crazy. So it's very easy. Also and the brain goes one kind of mouth and shall we run today as opposed to what w? What kind of
Sun yeah? Well, I think that's what brings a because the first of its planes going, you gonna do what this math in the may be dead. Okay, the second a race going now we're gonna slow with doing another one Thursday fourth day, fifty eight. This is insane and then the data advise going: okay, you're on this kind of cake or something I understand. Let's, let's try better at this, don't push it too hard. You know you you, the brain stops talking to the body and somehow levels out Roundabout Maine, then it gets a real marathon eighteen math and twenty three. I remember marathon, thirty one that was a lovely, so weird, yeah, but it was funny and you own the road. You know Woody Guthrie, this land is our lands on his mind and the you you become like it's. Your land is like the old, it's everybody's land because you're running on the roads of this country, I grew up in and you feel that the roads, the fields The birds- I didn't listen to any music. I want this slightly a safety thing for traffic, but also you could hear everything.
It's going on birds, chatter, rivers running there was IRAN. Somebody's house is on day too, and there was river running, that it went through the back of this guy's garden, and he said all I I say: Connect ACT, Jack went to visit him and I wash my feet in in the river and the like, but the suspect are carried on running so I can you can do with. Is that the black berets out of the bushes, like I did when I was a kid? It just became a fat if federal this the holistic, Farrell Mountains, that's what I was doing on run. It's not people shouted from the sides. No one cares ready, which is fine, and I'm just wrapped up in that this other place, and it was. It it's beautiful. I mean Israelis than what seems like it would change you like accomplishing something like that, like on the last day, the last run when you cross the line. What was the feeling like why this is a pet? She brought up that patient and I got in there. They they put some flax stuff. That was beautiful. I try to do it a five hour, math and I've. You know
The speed is two hours is what they're trying to break that. So this is really slow, but then having done forty two marathons, it's maybe it's fair and I missed it by about thirty seconds, but it was it was beautiful. Finish it. I was really quite strong all the way through I didn't stop at anytime. That was that was good in South Africa, though I did two thousand seven hundred and twenty seven days to salute to Nelson Mandela's twenty seven years in prison and a five they put me in hospital. Because they thought my kidneys were given out at you experiencing rap. Does that? What is out of my you know, but yeah yeah yeah yeah your first, but I have a talk to who's that have rubbed my losses. Yeah, I got robbed in twenty twelve and how do you get that I was on a anti cholesterol, drug just observe health drug, your trestles Bahai. Take this thing was and side effect is robbed by licensees, which I couldn't spell being dyslexic, and I was paying brown, painting and
and did it the no real pain lot of for this and this is without exercise. You were getting it it was on Marathon three amount in four, so I had trained had trained before that. I've done some training before that one, a bit weird with my training but yeah. So there wasn't a huge amount of training before that one, but third marathon, now start paying a bit of brown? This was not through the whole series of marathons or it was no well. I I tried to do South Africa twice. Twelve was my first one after day, four on at and and to the cholesterol, drug, try to control my cholesterol and, and I said, bring Brown p and then they said you got to go to hospital now the guys that you would put fluids through. You have to go see a specialist especially said. You can't continue this twenty seven thing, because you have to get all this stuff out of your system, otherwise the kidneys because it shreds them. You know that near miles into the bloodstream, clogs up kidneys, kidney failure, very dangerous,
fighters get really now yeah. The fighter died from it um recently in Boston. In the Massachusetts area, yeah it's It's apparently something that happens when fighters over train as well like sometimes we're not doing it scientifically, so they're not analyzing their heart rate, their heart rate. Ability- and they don't know that they have a really truly recovered and they continue to push themselves because they they want to prepare the harder the added need. They have the sort of mental mindset, just train harder and you'll be better off, but that's not necessarily the case that your body can't physically keep up with the recovery and sometimes they'll go into a fight over trained and they wind up getting robbed out from the fight happened several times. That's caused a few deaths yeah. Well, they said that he said you carry on running now in twenty twelve you won't make it so two thousand and sixteen to get off that medication yeah. I would think that all that running you wouldn't need that medication. I would have thought, but you know they check you out, and you say English.
It's just that the chinese worker wow. You know you'd be on this rest, your life, that stuff's gives a. I mean this happens, it's it's. It gets a scary place, but twenty sixteen they five bloods were looking a bit weird day off so day, twenty seven, I did double marathon and that was kind of interesting So you run one math in the is your last day around if any done twenty five minutes and said if the day twenty seven so and when you go through that finishing that the final flight, with the will you they should be waving flags you're, going to now the math and to go and the it's just yeah. I might bring a coat. This is kinda good, but he got. It is ninety k you gonna do today, ignore it carry on and it was a rough ruffled, a dead Sir five hours, then another five hours, five hours, plus another five hours plus, and he had it was six. I I took eleven hours and fifty minutes to run 90k, so I did double marathon in eleven hours. Ten, that's damn good.
Yeah? It was good enough and this they got a they gonna come raise math in South Africa, which is ninety k, and they got a twelve hour because of such that I will do ninety k in twelve hours. The double matters a before that I did not the six k off the. That last moment must been orgasmic. When you finished, it must have been incredible finishing the eighty four, beautiful you finish at the steps of Nelson Mandela, stature where he was made president and six that was b of I'm and rough at that speed up in the last hour because of complications, so I actually got foster value download thing where in academic inside now go. Why did you have to speed up it was a wind. It was a thing called sport relief he's doing it, for so is raising money, and I wanted to finish inside the camera window. They had a window till three hundred and fifteen south african time. Police escorts were needed at certain bit. Otherwise you'll get carjacked things and answers, and you won't survive this big. So I said
we just ignore the the carjacking thing. Now you can ignore it. So I said: okay, stop the clock. Put me in the thing Dr Beach, but Taurus stop me over then I'll run there and we'll just continue it on that. So we have to do that. So we go behind because I wasn't running because I'd be driven across this dangerous period of right pot. Point of right to be drunk to Pretoria. Then I just had to run- the kilometers off, so they have like a car jack area. Yeah sitting. There is whether it's kind of out there there's no one really out there and you just go on that and they'll be there. Anything can happen so life by Phil produce a fixer. He just saying we don't do this. Just you calm down, So I said we'll just get me closer to the finishing line and then I'll just run right does really matter where I'm writing that we know is pretoria. We need to finish. I need to just run that distance. Sorry, I ran the distance off, but the time it got behind, so I had to speed up from seven point. Five cloned is now to ten kilometers an hour. So an extra
Third, this move, which was kind of evil. No, I'm a lot that day I just I was just a moaning whining god I can't do I was never considered not doing it, and I got that that that that the the live feed to to London finished at quarter past, and we got about thirty minutes past. We had about two and they just called it before they went off. It was like you know like a Phil VIA is perfectly designed. I just if I but that probably get more money a raise more money, an extra one hundred gram, because we've seen this idiot finish is actually doing it. You know so that was beautiful, and then I talked to the very interesting thing 'cause. You know if you're talking to It was a press. I talk to the press after that was this Sunday, and so they don't normally they say we, we counterfeiting, all we've got two minutes and I'm gonna talk to important people go away. That's what normally happens if you took to life friends. National press- but I was thing and they just kept talking to because it was a slow news day. Nothing was happening and I say we, India is just run twenty seven marathons.
Ask me a question: what favorite color do you have and what? How how big are your legs? Thank you! Legs yeah! I just I don't know what they were asking me but and these two interviews I did that with national right. I just said I'm going to go away now, I'm going to stop this. I had to stop my own interview, which I've never done. It in life- and I realize they've just got no one else to talk too desperate Did you notice a big change in public perception of you once you complete those marathons? the yeah, the certain community, a transgender and you come out of the seven people who will be, but I I crossed into a line of well. If you gonna do that and you I hate and are you Do some comedy do drama stuff? We think you're a bit bonkers and out there but fair play. I got this sort of I gotta pass interplay to you if you're going to do that and I was trying to do selection. You know, says they have selection. Your delta forces Navy seals, will have this thing that can you just go on and on and on, and it's the stamina thing yeah
and that was my civilian selection for my own, whatever civil notification, this understand yourself yeah I! now. I can go a lot further in coming out. Gender when you're straight I'm straight times as I fancy women, some a wanna be lesbian. So if you come out you, you could stay in the down the. If we go back to the ancient egyptians- and further there's. Probably a lot of guys said. Don't tell anyone about this. I just I fancy with him just go there. I just won't mention this kind of feelings in my head and I thought I should mention it because if people shout and scream at me in the streets, I will I will fight that at least verbally fight. That or you know, if they start going through. I have had one fight in this and I landed one punch yeah here. I taught myself to decide on the streets because of this yeah yeah the guy was give you may Tracy what early you'll dressed down- and I I was I've- been so strict form for years to come gun.
So the living on the street, you know, maybe it was working on the streets and just knew a lot of people going around. I just said you don't have to be like this week and all the space enough for everyone live and let live kept. Giving me stuff. It was a bit drunk over Leicester, so he was just going to stay on that wicket. Keep saying- and I said just chill out chill out and then the third time I just said I just fell over and I went. No, I I I and I am loaded load of swear words on him and then he swung. For me, we use the handy thing because that came up in court and then I saw going back and I landed one punch which has pleased that I was doing the wipe on wipe off stuff. I was this year, locking yeah for the Jujitsu book, but I thought was a fugitive from a book. If you can believe that which is you know, you get these books with the different moves in any content to self that I did do that when I was six actor as well So I like the idea of doing these things, but I felt Judo was always at the bigger kid you getting pajamas and the bigger kit just throws you around a bit. I could never quite get the hanger, I couldn't throw the bigger kids. I could do it
now, but I've never and yeah. This is a fantastic video online of a very old judo x and I think he's in his 70s or his 80s and he's working out with young man Can. You see his ST of Judo as these young, powerful men try to delayed him and throw him around, and he effortlessly watch this, this old man and the sea, he's very very old and he throwing these guys around me. As a martial arts expert. These men are not doing this willingly. This is legitimate, like even that guy tries to throw him, and this is a black belt who's, trying to throw him but he's. Oh good and his use of balance and leverage is so amazing. He just knows where to be like see how yeah yeah just throws himself into a perfect position. It's really. Coming to watch- and this looks like it from the 50s or something like that. 'cause really but yeah I'd, say just say seventy five year old judo I mean this is an
old man and the young man is much larger than him yeah significantly like twenty five percent larger. At least. Maybe even look at me look at least twice as big as am and and not throw this old man, it's really amazing. Juno is a beautiful art. It's going more more full on is the thing I got to get this he's trying I mean he knows this guy's a master, but it's just look at that. I This is incredible. I mean the way guys. Guy's body can toss these people through the air, and yet they are helpless. They can't do anything to him. No way that look at that boom seventy five years old. I mean it hurts my hips just looking at that. You know you can have many different martial arts that yeah yeah view that you should sue and its striking martial arts. My my background was in striking, which is in Taekwondo and then eventually kick boxing and more time and then got really into Jiu Jitsu. When I got older
what's the difference between you choose a grappling tall, choking people- it's like you it's not throws like judo there are throws engines to, but it really comes. Judo on the ground, fighting aspect of judo, which is not as emphasized, but the brazilians really really emphasized in sort of they figured out what the best way for a smaller person defeat a larger percent through leverage. Jiu. Jitsu is really the only martial art, I can think of that works like you think of a martial art in a movie like in a Bruce Lee Movie like there's all these, people and they were always bigger than Bruce Lee. Bruce Lee Phuc them all up, but in the real world It doesn't usually work like the bigger people have such a giant advantage when it comes to like striking, like you're, never going to see like heavyweight in the UFC fight. A bantamweight fighter
and one hundred and thirty five pounds just wouldn't it's just too much of an advantage and jujitsu legitimately possible four hundred forty pound man to strangle a two hundred plus pound man and do it relatively easily if their talent, I I saw a documentary on Bruce Lee and he had the way of no way yeah, which really appeal to me. I mean that this is like a philosophy Carmen from fighting, but to be so trained up in so many things that they do not know what you're going to do, and I kind of but he had overcome significant prejudice. Prejudice to adopt that perspective, because when he was studying martial arts. You were supposed to be loyal to your style, so If you learn kung fu, you were supposed to be a kung fu man for life. You weren't supposed to also dabble in boxing and wrestling and all these different things that he was interested in. He was interested in taking what's useful from all different martial arts and applying them. So in a sense
he was really the founder of mixed martial arts, which you see today in right. In the U k they have cage warriors and the? U S is the? U of c- and you know, there's this worldwide. Now the the art of mixed martial arts of putting all the different styles together and you can do whatever you want within the rules. Now I like the attitude of that sort of a life attitude. Then there's. Obviously, the failing attitude of it and then there's the life attitude of just be prepared for anything and everything yeah and be like water, but that was as of the thing yeah just to go round things move through things: yeah, don't don't head, but things figure out what's the best way, what is the best best path? Yeah, you know yeah, I just um I haven't learned when I said I think I'm waiting for someone to give me a really hard time, save. Now I am checking in- and I am learning about, sharks of ready to live in England yeah despite so many places, and we have here and I'm
are you. I love everybody, I'm always touring yeah, always touring and sex and filming answering has keep moving but yeah. I know, but it's a you to make the transfer should be moving around all the time. Yeah you'd have to live it up. So, okay, we're gonna check in with this guy, and that plays this and yes and- and you have to take it and like you do for, is going to be something that you're serious as opposed to datas. I don't want to dabble like stand up when I'm filming. I was told to stand in one of the filming in from doing stand up. I will think about, during the add drama, your drumming company, that kind of a related but different So I keep pushing both you've got to keep everything match fit for life and that's what led masses I can drop math and science. I just did three mass ins. I just drove three matter: got home from playing Australia to the trade up to Berwick upon tweed on the scottish border ran out done by which is one method to Edinburgh. Second math, are you running a marathon with other people or just running it for yourself just get a backpack put my stuff in there change your clothes washed it off like? Oh no back up
Is this something that started because of that series of marathons? You did yeah. It's an I want to stay match fit for life, because that's what I notice to everyone's a natural at all. Animals are natural animals and then there are the wild animals which we were and then they were domesticated animals. We are self domesticated. We are actually designed to be wild, we're supposed to be match fit for life, an I think as time goes on. You know people get back into training or whatever they said. Well, that really hurt. So I backed off. I think it hurts because you're not doing it enough, I'm not sure if there's a pure science. This is just a feeling for me, maybe that that I need to stay fit and running, and swimming and whatever I'm doing and the less Do the more the body punishes me. If I'm doing it all the time, if I'm always, I try and run every morning almost at this morning, but I haven't gotten to
stuff today but I'll. If I miss one, then that's kind of good 'cause, that's sort of recovery time, but I would just do hit training, high intensity interval training every morning and then the ability to just drop three math jobs, seven marathons in seven days. You love that yeah. I love to have that. Back pocket and I don't think that's that's not allowed. That's not list of things you're supposed to have, but I know I can do it now. I can do it with just a backpack on what you can do it too, because you have autonomy, you can kind of do whatever you want to do right, yeah in the adding a living when you want to go, make the time yeah, but there's also the actual, that's not supposed to be on the list of what is humans do right right, you don't just go from around three hundred and three hundred or seven hundred and seven hundred, and I love that that's kind of so that's out there well. This is clearly people that are doing that yeah. It's clear everyone, everything I've done everyone that someone is done boy more than I've done, yeah
kind of know. I feel that, even if I don't know that for certain I have one crazy friend, his name is Cameron, Hanes and he's a he's, actually a famous bow hunter, but he's also an ultra marathon runner and when he prepares for these, like Bigfoot, two hundreds or it's like two plus miles of the MOAB two forty two hundred and thirty eight miles in the desert. He runs marathon a day so run. Marathon every day and then he works a full time job. He legitimately crazy, and you know he's says that he doesn't take any days off, I mean what subjects have run a mass today say running then we'll get ready at it really early run a morning run at lunch running it Dole is beautiful and is an african african dorms I got coming up. Got some running up and grabbing. You well I was in I mean they. They told me. I suppose that security I wasn't. I was kind of cool, that's for people. We were about people with you yeah you were around any hi. I was I'll animals. I was in a of my mountain Zebra National Park who and
and and if you've ever been in the safari they say so I said: well, they tell you to sit in this set of shower bank big, open top vehicle which got metal bars over. I said the animals. They know that the shape of that they know is metal and metal. Doesn't taste very good, so you'll be fine and there's a with a and you feel good, but when I went there of course said! Well you're running outside near the vehicle- and I thought is this right: that's pretty good television isn't there I'll, stay close to the sun is coming and they did. How the lives during the lines of eight yesterday, that's fine and they told me you know and that's what a lot of the come. They never go for snacks lines, a kind of organize right back. We ate Yes, they were ripped apart, some animal and we don't need to I have a bag of crystal, they knew they knew the line they knew where they were and they were ok, but they said the buffalo around and they can stamp you to death about. I didn't know Buffalo, so black death, they called them
really what we're gonna settle in black, that they they're responsible for so much they're, not as responsible as hippos helpers are number one, but they they a lot of people man they they don't take any. Have you think about bulls like when people try to ride bulls? Yeah, like domestic cow bulls, ruthlessly, aggressive animals mean they'll fuckin', throw you through the air now think of them, but wild an and in app. Cotton fighting off lions, that's african buffaloes! I mean they are full Rocha's animals and that just I didn't know what I had to do. I know that with the hippos, if you in between that water source? Then I'll just carry you. I don't know what I have to do to buffaloes weather. I had to write. It can't go anywhere near like to that grandma or if they find you be a threat at all, they're, just so powerful. They just just want you in there there's a great video that I was watching this morning of a lion. There was take out a small buffalo and the other one.
Got behind the line in launched it through the air. It was literally flying like forty feet in the air like flipping head over heels 'cause this strength of this thing to take a giant cat and just with its head, which is woman, just fly that wasn't the one with the cargo in as well. No, no. This was one that was. It was like on the side of a dirt road. All right have you heard about the car is busy a good busy wild on Instagram. I think that's the I heard about the car. Yes, I saw that yeah yeah. That's interesting that, because that I feel that Buffalo that are acting like the local townspeople, yes, and that the act lines of the SS and the crocodile Is another yeah? This is it. This is the video, so it looks like the lines attacking this one. Look at that boom. It's actually not nearly as high as I thought it was. Maybe I'm thinking of another one yeah that that's pretty good, though I mean just to see it do that. Oh, you know what I'm thinking, I'm thinking of relentless enemies. That's what I'm thinking there's a
is actually uhm a doc. Entry about this one particular strain of lion, that there was a a the river split sides, or the river changed its path and it turned in this area into an island and the lions had to adapt, because the only thing they could eat was Buffalo, which is very difficult. Hill. You know the usually they're eating antelope and other smaller things that aren't nearly as dangerous right. So these lions developed became far larger, so the female lions are as large as a normal male lion and their hulking like massive muscles and they're the enormous. It's enormous strain of lion. That's exclusive! deleting Buffalo and as a whole men are it's a national geographic documentary. I think it's really good just incredible to see these things walking around and they look cartoonish still like the hulk, so it's hard to tell you have
compare them to a regular line, but there's some images of these things walking around they just look so much larger than uh. Regular lion because they just had to adapt I would think if you're running around like if you're running you got to think like your you look like something that's trying to get away work made running in that part. Yeah now is right next to the green vehicle, so the big metal green vehicle was there and they just said stay close. So I one door flip away from just launch myself into the it's open top. So I would have been in that vehicle before they got to me. I hope Did you hear about the woman from she was an editor on the game of thrones and she was in one of those par. And she had a window rolled down and she they told her, keep your windows rolled up at all times. She was trying to take better photographs and the cat reached in and grabbed her and pulled her out of the vehicle and killed her. This is the last year and then there
interest, creature yeah and you just have to run with them yeah. Well, I they yeah. This is, I was at a picture of it yeah oh god, they have a picture of it happening in twenty fifteen. Oh, was it really that long that just looked it up? The other is once your nose number, my fax terrible times, five for a look at that, though, that is just so awful that they actually caught it on camera. Well, she just thought You know she was safe, she's in the car I reached out and grabbed her and pulled her out. Yeah I got the run around. I would of. There was a guy with a gun and next to him was a good shot. He said The new year has issued things at the I too. I played my cuts in yeah. Some, you play your cards and what must be kind of exhilarating to this? Something about it right. Well. That, though, and that was I I was talking to the zebras- I just I went out 'cause, you obviously they're, not dangerous, there's a lot of non dangerous ones. It was actually the
stay on the news about math and ten or eleven or something I felt so much over the ten mark and I've never got there. And if you've done the whole south african thing and failed and people were tweeting about me. Eddie is Africa, kicked your eyes use code Ti A no. This is Africa. Yes, on where a huge come to see us, hey, that's a sale has, and I forget now, yeah, it's a big ask and get out for gays. Did you. Album hey man? I was on medication, my father, why didn't really matter just not whining, so I just had to come I tried three tried three times to come back and then I came back and three times tell trying to reset the day that can we get back and do the thing with it now we went and here having enough money to be able to that would be a set up. I came to a sudden,
it's on it's on it's on and I didn't I couldn't trading again, and so I thought I'd just go, get it done and then day five with hostile day. Six in hospital, as well after how, after two thirds the math on day, six at a hospital. Sorry for what well it kept, what happened are they that might might try try? My doctor of on way, but my train of thought he thought I just didn't look good. It was three thousand five hundred and thirty eight degrees, you know and I'm used to it- is that, like one, oh sorry, Fahrenheit, yeah, I'd, say one ten, one fifteen somewhat that and I was not used to that so I was. I think I would have made that I failed, but he's didn't. He felt he wanted to speak to see an exercise on a phrenologist. I don't even know what the word meant. I thank all of you Nefer? Ologist is a kidney expert. I thought that would be a renal expert, but now it's like natural Agist and this very cool black dude, and he was there in South Africa and Eastern E London. It's called is the city
is the big place and he's going? What are you doing? Who I'm running for Mandela? What I wanna do this thing: okay and he said it's. It's we've, that you kidneys your right, your bloods, it's it's you, your hydration, hydration terrible. So when I put three leaders into you and you'll be paying like a horse all night and I didn't p ones. So that's what I saying you need some wow and after that, a go bad event and so day eleven I got into an national this national park So there's no one else that just me and animals and security people in whatever with me, and it was kind of beautiful. It was just. Beautiful and that the sun was great a sunset. Going down. There was a rainstorm as well in the middle of it there wild animals out there either. I just felt it gave this then weird,
price of beauty and also knowing I'm getting stronger, I'm getting stronger I've gone through the barrier uhm. I also 'cause I run format and then a day off and then the fifth sixth day I ran two slash three or math, and so I'd run forward. Two slash three mountains in six days, which is not good numbers for your head. We need five and five or something in something, but for in twenty sixteen just didn't work, and then I run another marathon. I said I've got to run a marathon in the third and get these numbers matching up, so I can call out the third marathon and then It was always day seven and I've run sixty eight mountains in nine days. There's always one day behind. So I thought last day. I'll do a double marathon and that'll be good. Climactic Ann of my south african thing. What is going on with your mind when you're doing this, because you you're, not listening to any music in your in this sort of meditative state, where you just left foot right, foot left foot right, foot breathe in breathe out yeah,
I'm saying it's kind of Zen, but it's not in a kind of like I'm listening to my heartbeat or anything, it's more like right. I just feel a just some sort of beautiful thing of maybe because that's what we used to be as humans Eminem, reaching back into some pas memory of we humans just used to be out on the plains, and we will king for honey, wild honey, berries, yeah, read stuff and and if we could trap something we can either. I don't know what is it? I can't quite work out what it is, but I just find it beautiful. And I do know that you're getting vitamin d in your getting stronger from that um somebody once I never do the hand palm reading but I was at a Halloween Party and there's a palm reader. There's I'll try, I'm in a good place. Let's read my hand I can't what she said, except you need to get out more easier
outside north. I thought, okay. I always felt that I need to be out back doing stuff, because when I was a kid I live for soccer football, I used to I'd like a crazy, the I love that game and then from the age of twelve. I went to a school that didn't play and I never played sports. This is one of my gift to myself accident. I think for the age of twelve. You know you need teenager bones really moving and setting, and at that time I was hardly doing anything. So I think I, these have never gone people say running underneath my knees are not gone. I wrote a whole theory about the heel of the foot which it should never. You should you know sprinters autos. All running should be on that oh yeah and I think if the heel hits that's what causes the nails to need to. We could be wrong on this. No, no! That's that's correct that. That's not how people are supposed to run. I was actually changed by Nike. They differ after running shoe with a fat heel, and they changed the way people run. They change the gate and it's responsible for a lot of injuries. I think so
some horses, if you look for the healing holes, it's right up by that bomb, because that that that that tells you have the host is that those and then you go all the way out that leg and right by the bum is that's the heel. It's just an enormously long foot and that's never going to hit the ground and dogs. Don't like cats, don't do it we're the ones that use this heel thing, obviously initially too, for walking to make us balance when we went from the Benzema to real estate agents of the year. We need yeah, but even then I mean most people, if you just give them if they're barefoot, like children, for example, like one of the things that I was reading this book about barefoot running and how much important as developed as in that month, most people that have problems from that they're really having problems because their feet don't have strong muscles in them because of the atrophy and the way describing a regular running shoes, a essentially like a cast, and that
you're so used to being protected in this cast. Everything sort just gets mushy inside of it and then you're also striking down the hill, which is a very unnatural thing, and when I watch my kids run, like my kids, will run with me sometimes and they naturally know to run on the balls of the feet: that's how they naturally run and when people start running he'll. First, that's where all the it's come, it's just not a normal way for people to run yeah, and I was also an issue in South Africa running on certain road services, whether just dropped, instead of doing it, Macadam kind of covering they had just put rocks of see some laureate come along this truck it just drop, rocks out of the back to sort of hold together the mud in in the rainy times and very uneven surface. Very the heart of the foot and I was uh. I was doing these very thin, soled running very thin, soled, what kind of shoes are you running with? Well, I kept changing so I, but with a Vibram's than the world vivobarefoot ones in,
I see running barefoot, who run marathons of barefoot shoes. Well, initially I was and then my train it I eat just got so high that much as a look you got away these and then I left it to them to choose by my face here at his olympic level. So you said right. These are gonna, be better for the I've. I've fade out to be the so I said: okay, you tell me what shoes to wear. Alright, we'll take care of running the marathon, but I do remember seeing little south african children running on the roads next to me, with a code, hey will run with you and they're completely nothing on three and they deal with the shop rocks authority shot. I was every few steps, okay, what our house- and they would just since yeah, and they would just they had that they were laughing and running along, not because they they're free. That builds up like in this very this survey. How's it South Africa in Is it weird to watch this? No, it's kind of fun, because I got right back to IRAN with flags that that's a beautiful thing, and I was running in the eastern Cape and they're looking at a white guy. So by doing that, this it's very rural area. So
it's a moral motor that was in the the the african national part. That was the rain. That was the end they day, whether brainstorm. Because it's thundering lightning, but that's that's the truck there on the left. You can see the thing and this guy just turned up out of the blue truck with their. Would you give I just give me a letter saying thanks for doing stuff, but I, if I ran with the flag- and I and I said, MOLO to people and like, let's just to say how are you and and in in that Cosa Cosa this guy- he seems like he's wearing women's clothes as well. Yes, he's wearing a skirt and I think, as a transgender guy home with less has me and yeah he's bald, but is transgender. Now we are you, do you take hormones or anything or no? No, no, but I could I could transition, but then I've got some of these boys genetics going on. I mean I. I really think these jeans, I think they're gonna find out how it works, but I come prove that the moment, but it's
if I transition over then I'll- just be on the other side of this kind of fence that weren't we give ourselves and I decided ok, I'm gender fluid, I'm just going to have like a superhero boy mode in girl mode like the human torch, can go flame on flame off. So I'm going. When do you just do decide some days today? I'm boy mode I can, but I tend to due to the block periods now, but campaign, I mobile, I'm doing films, dramatic films, I've been boy mode, and this applies transgenic- have to think about it, not really now, but it's easy for me to be in government because then, if I can, if, if I can deal with that, you know some people stare at you and and then I have a confidence now I carry myself with a certain confidence they have. Seems to be quite confident so just relax about that, and I can I can actually I can control other people embarrassment 'cause. They don't know what to do. I'd, say: hi. How are you can I have a cup of tea the the yeah what we sell to. I don't know that's why so I can just relax people by just chatting to them. I
and then boy quite easy for you to take your kids right, terrible, and I scrubbed up quite well in boy mode, do you have you but you've given thought to transitioning yeah yeah yeah, but you know the part of me wants to be Steve. Mcqueen in great escape army wants to be Elizabeth Taylor in feel like I'm in a cat, who's, afraid of Virginia Woolf cat Mahajan, Well, I which I just saw on the plane yesterday. So these the two looks like a virgin. I going well, I kind of both of them as a kid I in a column like Clint at the the Steve Mcqueen, the kind of fasting receive Steve Mcqueen and what he went through to get to-
he was, and he was so driven and if you never yes, it's a great story. You know that he was in a film with Paul Newman and he was like ninety said on the list of credits. Someone someone up there likes me. If you watch it, you can see him. This is not a fight between pony missive, a queen and he's like a heavy. You know who the young thug take a heavy guy, but it's just a small player and then the second phonies in with is towering inferno where they are equal billing and I think Paul Newman is first and Steve. Mcqueen is higher If you look at, if you look at the names on the poster, Pournima comes in from the left, so he's name is first at Steve. Mcqueen is on the right, but higher then full name and that's they got that equal billing. How do you put equal billing if, if, if you gonna stop of the light reading from the left right, but it's a and if you remember the film they come out of, it is to two guys you say yeah that both
decent guy yeah. These are heroes. Yeah, that's a funny thing with actors right billing: they won they want to make sure that their name is read first well that That's I mean you could have you to do these things I mean so many things need an ego to do and then, hopefully you can switch dial. You go down when you come off state. Some people come to that when it comes to billing state, you know Steve Mcqueen and his mom was a sort of sometime prostitute and had managed about that. The house would and his dad was just never that and he found himself through a boys boys retreat. You know it because he was breaking the law. They said enough to this place, and then they told him to talk these kids out of train wild horses, and that was one of the first things he did and each so ambitious and it ended with your brother in them
in Memphis at seven, because you know if you know that from the beginning the cut you'll bring that you know that some, while was not, I don't remember it well, it's at MAX's have is a great phone cisco. You Brenda with his coloring and but no hair, but such an amazing look and Steve Mcqueen at the beginning. They go up to Boot Hill. To bury this indian guy up at boot. Hill and people are not allowing it this racism in the town and they both go up and they ride shotgun again to hear it, but he was, he was yule. Brenner was the top guy, and probably will he see what you see? What brain is doing? You see what his caravan is? Ma'am, God he's got all this stuff here and he just wanted to be the top guy and he got there and it's a beautiful story doesn't end brilliantly. But you know bullet is
great great escape, is great yeah he's a fascinating guy, Steve Mcqueen. He became a race car driver like so yeah, well, Sirius, race card yeah, and he he came second in the one before there's a documentary on, on that Lamar the moment is the twenty four hour race and he because he didn't race in a in America, which is, I think, was a twelve hour race and they came second with a broken foot. He did it to an hour and he was just he's kind of a force of nature, but he will see the crazy things. I mean really crazy. Things which is just not WI died fairly young, touristy dancers.
Singing and drinking yeah I don't know what it was have you in, and we still don't know why people get cancer. My mom died when I, when I when I was six and she was a nurse and never smoked, she died about cats. I mean what shoes, what is that yeah? Nothing makes sense if you win and the less you put in random into the world. That's my theory of the universe. To get there yeah if you were random and make sense of the thirteen point five billion years we've had about three hundred years since the enlightenment- and I just think we're lucky enough to be here- we've had five great extinctions and we could have a six or we could look after ourselves and treat other people as you like to be treated yourself back great rule two and two other. I should have done to you and that if we did it, we all did that tomorrow, the world would all work yeah. Yes, how do we do that? How do we get that going? Well, it's better than it was yes, it's better
cause, even though it seems kind of hellish if anyone's Pist off with politics at the moment track yourself back. If you don't look at politics or any time back in history, it's always been hell. It's always been rubbish, it's always been alone. I think transparency as opposed to pst. If that's the You know the more transparent things are, the more you can check, hey that guys lying about that. You know we can workout. What's and what not a lie that would be really nice. I don't know if we could have light intact. Although that I'm doing I think it's going to be mine reading mind really well. I really think that we're going to have technology within the next fifty years that allows to definitively understand whether or not someone is being honest that would it would make it I'm I'm sure someone could get it bad side of that, but it's showing up front. You think there's a lot of good stuff on that yeah. I would say this is going to happen, though I want this to happen. Alot of scams are going to fall apart,
Ponzi schemes, yeah ponzi schemes, pyramid schemes, a lot of that's going to fall apart. What a cool ponzi schemes was a ponzi yeah. I think so. I think you can, if there's like a there's, a bunch of those little terms like for gazing. Jeff Ponzi, I think for Ghezzi is one that people use for fake. It was, there was a limousine company that was writing bad checks for gays. Mousin service and it became like a thing on the EAST coast, where this guy he's a Fugazi cop. That means you're a fake cop yeah became a word for a child, happy National Twenty is about to leave over his own. Walking the roaring 20s, just ripping people off three to people. As your listing. Please look up Charles Ponzi on yeah Pedia, an yeah, so it's it and how did he die? Did he explode? I got hit by a meteor. So you are running for something now. What are you doing? I'm going to I've said
for nine years quite consistently I would like to that I was going to run in twenty twenty. We we had set terms in in our politics, like you always had for full year, we arranged into a five year, but then we come back to the old system, which is where the prime minister- country can choose when they have an election and it can be anyway, up to a day the next day after the election or up to five So we have no, I really excel plant Prime Minister can decide. You know what we'll have another election in two weeks yeah and they wouldn't do that for them. But you know like we have the generation of fifteen two fifteen and then two thousand and seventeen having been in only two years. Theresa may was persuaded that if you go over actually going to win big, you can only tons of extra seats and then we'll be able to do whatever we want, but in fact they lost seats in their work. So you know. Sometimes they grab it. Sometimes you go in the fourth as a traditional things going in the fourth year,
if you got all the economics going, everything is pretty good. Ok, let's go now. We got forty gotta year despair, but let's go in the fourth year and we can because we know we're in a good place and then you have to allow, I think, six weeks for election campaign, but yeah. That's we do that. I think other countries do that, but I'm sure America go that's crazy, but anyway that's what we've been doing for some time. What are you going to run for member of parliament for some constituency, hopefully in in England, would be my thing as opposed to the king, the causes wells government. Is this a step? Are you going to move further along the line or you're gonna eventually now that would be is for them pay. Then I would say a Glenda Jackson. If you know Glenda Jackson, she did this. Well all the sauce, and you know what is he went away and came back to the creative what he was doing to. Doing films, but he went away for seven years, so I will go away for a period of time and put my career to hibernation and just do politics or stupid,
but you have a set period of time. We're going to do this and then afterwards going to retire. No, I I would do it no set period of time. I'm just going to go off and for his looks like his father and then I come back when I choose to come. No stand up. No nothing. During that time could do stand up if you're raising money for charity. If I'm riding money for the Labor Party, though I policy, I think that would be allowable. I think my constituency members wouldn't mind that was raising money for constituency, but if I was just doing it for myself less well, you can write books. You like to write books and articles is it's a But how easy? But I'm not sure if you have the same, we have a similar system. My friend, Stanhope was running for President briefly kind of as a lark and realized that he really couldn't do stand up because he did stand He would have to allow equal time for everyone else who wanted to perform,
also had something like his stand up. Performances were then thought of as political campaign performances something along those lines. It was like some weird bullshit that he was going to have. Navigate that he decided to back out of it yeah, but he was bullshiting the entire time really just doing it for fun. Now, I'm going to do it? I think a lot of moderate people don't go in. I could have a radical model. I do radical things with the moderate message and already done a number of things like that in my life, so I'm just going to take that in and once your goal, my goal is to try and encourage my country in the world to go in a positive direction. I think I've been saying this politically, that I think this is our last century on earth or it's our first century. Think next, eighty years is for everything we're going to choose everything here: we're either going to wipe ourselves off the planet or we're going to make it a fair world for seven point: five billion people where you have a right to have a fair old enough democracy entrance.
I don't see enough money to live a life to have a family, not everyone not billions of people living on one dollar a day or two dollars a day. So I think we need to get to there. Because an immigration raises its head. You'll come to my country, every country in the world and that so people moving around because they have good enough money to live on all them good of security because as a war, civil war and if we can get beyond that and a lot of those problems drop away. So but I'm going to politics and talking about a global vision. Future whatever is a is slightly It's very difficult thing to do, because people are going to say. Oh you just ask for that. How is that helping this global vision, but I just thought We seem to be trying 1930s politics again, an political areas, so I Oh! Well, I'm going to I'm going to look for a vision of positive.
In the future, and I know when I came out as transgender ninety five. There was no way I could imagine anything. I didn't know where it was going to go. I just thought I would need to go out there need to argue or discuss at least try and set up a positive image version. You know 'cause, you had not sure what age you are, but I think it was one, if you do, I save and I'm fifty seven so the men in the earlier years of our lives. It was just so out at Trans gender. You talk about it right. Okay, Lisbon people have with transgender was like some crazy out a place. What the hell you on about and that was when I came in the middle of that you know that and it wasn't an easy thing, I just saw I'm I'm not going to do, forces I'll do this that is a hilarious group of choices, special forces or trans gender. Well, I did the the civilians special forces. What have you and I want to fight on the streets in our people and yeah? I'd, be it and it's all mental. Isn't it right if you're, if you're in the and it is
anyway. The same because people are shooting bullets at union, people are dying and getting blown up, so I know there's a massive difference there, but everything in the end is psychological, and if I was going to do that, I was going to try and do this, and I would take risks in these areas. Of of you know, go out and people say things whatever they do and do that and then I'll run. The math is also you were going out. Knowing that you might have to be in an altercation yeah, I I was sure that was gonna happen. Teenage this- is hard disk, yeah point and scream it yeah little assholes teenage boys, this getting shut down. My friend Eric said it's my friend Eric Crisp. He said it to me once he's like, because he was dealing with some teenage boys in his hometown and he was like. The teenage boys are the most fuckin' dangerous animals on the planet, because they have all this testosterone, no one's really giving him any guidance, yet they're, sort of just they're wild and they're, trying to outdo each other one up each other yeah. And then they're are cruel, the
and they also are insecure, and so one of the ways to combat that insecurity is to try to make someone else feel like shit. It's like some weird natural instinct that people have well. That is that's what gossip it hatred is mild hatred and got it when you say so and so they're less that you lower their standards, lower their respect or their value or whatever, by saying something or you could do it as an app. And in doing so you raise your own. Yes, I say at least we're not them container ship head sure less than us, and that is a. That is gone since the dawn of time and four Well, that's where you see the social currency of today's like shame climate like shaming people for this or that are attacking people for whatever very thing to do in trying to get public shame against people maybe special people that haven't really done anything wrong with what they're doing
they're trying to do that to elevate themselves, and they see someone in the public eye, see someone who is famous or rich and they're saying that person is a fucking loser, and you know it was sports figures in perfect example. You know like some Super athlete may drop a ball. You fucking loser and they're they're doing this to sort maximize. This sort of this like this, downfall this. If they see anything, that's going wrong with that person's life and if they can accentuate that, it up it somehow or another? They think it elevates them Julie. Is the opposite? It's terrible for them, it's terrible for everybody, but they have food and natural instincts, competitive instinct, to push down the person they think is elevated to high. Well, I think they they lease it to the trolling thing online. If you from behind a firewall lives. Now, when there's and and and and I'm in the summer, we have bank notes, like your bank notes, the had a woman on the
half of Wanna Bang, there's the queens for which is on the front and then they change it up every few years and they they took the woman who was on the back of, I think, is a ten pound that something they took are often they changed it, and then there was this campaign. We need to get a word in the woman on the back of not the definitive study that and two people trolled this step. I think two and saying you you should die should be right and I mean hellish stuff. One of them turned out to be a woman who was actually attacking another with anything or what's going on in your head. Where is that coming behind this firewall. You can go to any place of also it's almost like? They don't think that a person that they're attacking online is an actual person they're, not getting the social cues from them, the not looking them in their eyes yeah. I just think it's a piss poor way to communicate with people. I don't I don't do. Any communicating with people online. I don't go back and forth with people on Twitter in the back and forth. I don't I don't.
Comment on things. I don't know anything. I talked so fucking much as it is doing this and like said enough- If you don't know how I feel about things, Jesus Christ, if you listen to this God, Damn podcast! That's me all right! I don't need to comment on other. I definitely want to comment. Tax form back and forth with the person and try to explain myself or not so, there's no benefit in I use it when I was doing stand up in the clubs and people might shout out. All of you are so you know from the from I know, you're drunk you're, an idiot whatever I don't care, and I would not think that person really knows what they're talking about It wouldn't go into a thing. I would try and destroy them with. You know put human stuff, but That's what's happening on line of storms coming to you and I used to not worry about it before and suddenly. I was worried about that. Actually, I'm I'm not worried about that, it just literally like xen millions of hecklers. Really what it is. It's a heckling thing somebody came up. The last one I did was something I said something
is Eddie is a funk. You and I wrote back no, you very with the response. That's like five year olds as they say you know, you're a loser, just yeah. I think that yeah you he was very skin. It's all stupid. You never really feel good about it, even if you get a real good singer on somebody just like what am I doing with my life yeah, there is a yeah my dad They knew that they use yeah, that's what's going on, and my dad was a terrible toll. So I could have What does it matter? It does bear yeah, and does that really work for him now he keeps bumping into store ways when he goes it's much too tall. Might there so you're? You guys are dealing with Brexit right, yeah, We've got a house that change the climate of England. Well, it's made it's made of a toxic very kindly,
bring over here. You know it's all gone and polarized like with the build the wall stuff yeah yeah and it's it's one side of the other there's no one. In the middle. In a way? If you look at succession and a Merica civil war, that was bound to happen at some time. If you go back to the constitution and an one thousand seven hundred and seventy seven, that was was having the I and I think, what you've European Union, no one's ever tried from countries that have hundreds of years of of a history choose to find Linda, live together, work together in some shape or form this tricky thing we're trying to do is the hardest thing for Lillie. That's ever been done in the history of the world and I think, that's because I'm saying the american model, with native american lands and rolling over manifest destiny is a different model, is a different way of things happen to different
I'm as well, yet even time- and it's made America's didn't, have this idea of a week mark this off and on the register this lamp. So the idea that people into what together is It's tricky at some point. Someone was going to say I think we'd we'd like to changes or would like to move out. So this fight was bound to happen, and so it's it's very toxic. It is S. I'm! I'm not getting too in right at the center it because you could, just you know, probably like you have on your news broadcast you can listen to people talking hours and hours and hours, or what do you think about? What do you think about? I mean it doesn't seem to get anywhere right, so I've worked out well, my worldview is this worldview that everyone is going to have a fair chance in life?
I know the automation is happening right now, so there's going to be a whole load of people who won't be able to get jobs because the unskilled labor force that you was going to get with somebody that's going to get tricky so that universal wage is probably have to come in the I didn't wrestle: basic income, yeah yeah, that's amazing! Whichever was going to get is not going to be a negative thing. It's gonna be seven okay! Then you can go off and you can re train. You could live your life, and then this artificial intelligence, Para by two thousand and fifty next thirty years and that's what is that mean? We can't even workout what that means.
I think it's going to get harder before it gets easier, and so I'm going to just I always do the longer. I always do the longer, so I came out and back in eighty five and I just thought: well, hopefully, it'll get better overtime, and now this one up in twenty nineteen- and it's definitely better than it was, but you can go backwards, falls back, but I just I'm going to try and shoot for that, and the everyone have a fair chance in life and as to Brexit with that goes with it. You know positive negative. You know, against it, so I was just going to say that I don't need to think about whether I'm against it. I just know that I want the younger people are coming online to vote now, they're old enough to vote, and they seventy eight percent of them want to be part of Europe and the older people who are passing away. Probably seventy eight percent of them wanted to be out of here. So it's a fear things like yeah immigration, fear of well as a thing you got we to be brave and rather than fearful and suspicious, and these are the two ways I think people can go if we're brave
If we can be cures and say hi, how are you where you from? What do you do? Can we left for you? Can you know from us? I think that is the way for humanity to go forward or you could be faithful as his vision of what hang on now back off outside. Don't I don't to you, I want to know about you and that's the fearful and suspicious way an I think we have to be brave incurious, otherwise we're not going. Make it so for us in America. Would essentially dealing with a bunch of different countries that speak a bunch of different languages. Where is we're dealing with a bunch of different states that speak the same language, but it's kind of maybe different yeah, it's interesting. So I thought, if everyone could get, the hang of English is becoming the lingua franca for the world hasn't made much difference of America shows you can be completely at loggerheads, whether you're saying the same words or not. I think, if you're not saying the same words, it's easier for people to say who are these people? We hate them, because I can't understand, single weather, saying it's an easy way to be xenophobic, slash, racist on it and I've always said
If I was just a racist with a xylophone, I'm just like you got to you somewhere political situation, but it doesn't seem to make the big dick in the we have enough ways of translating and stuff and and most People in most countries now can reach for English. If they need to. You know like some people, I think Putin always speak in Russian, any any leader of a country before use their own language for us of talk to their own country, people first and then they might throw in something in English or in an interview. So, but we can always ten and we can work out from vibe. You know when most people stand is coming in so Well, I think that we're probably pretty close to some form of viable translation technology. Like you know, Google had these Google earbuds yeah so you could use it on the Google app that even the air buds, if you go to Google, translate and hit the mic. Turn on that you can just say hello.
Afternoon with it, and you can, if it's on the french but will come out in French, so I haven't done it in the field. I would like to get out somewhere the state yeah, and actually, I should test them out on the other, the Google, the ear buds. I think the idea is that, like, if you were talking to me in French, translate it instantaneously to English. It's probably a beta version of it now or like a clunky version of it, but ultimately we're going We have something that allows you do that, there's also Google lens you could I use that was traveling or you could take of of the camera, and you look at it and you did translates yeah I've torn languages out to that song. It will try right. Yeah mazing, so the Google translate verbal one at the moment does line by line. So you have to say a line, yeshiva line yeah I mean just think about what technology these existed? Twenty years ago, and how much more advanced they are now and then add that to translation that exponential increase, it's probably going to probably blues a lot of these barriers of misunderstanding. It is
I do think we have created some amazing positive. Is going forward and we tend to bank them and then don't get hit off. Wow we've got that now like we can make coffee quite easily. The grinding of coffee beans. Isn't so, but then we just okay and then we'll find something else to off right, so monkey ourselves, happy 'cause when we're happy enough- and it's usually economics when people are happy enough. There's less racism, less immigration, but there's less less yeah, whatever ones runs out of money, they get Pist off, I'm totally, understandably, but we need to make the economy of the world work and then it would be an easier place. But what how do we do that? How do you make the economy, the world yeah, Yes, that's an easy line to say and it's very difficult to work it out, but I do think, as you gradually enter live together, work. As we gradually come together. I mean
in your opinion, is in America if certain parts of America or your opinion and I having a tough time than money goes to this place, is having a tough time to try and get them back on their feet. So they can come back in and start making enough money to be able to help other pots and pans. That's the idea and that's allegedly, a model that should be able to work in the world as we as we head towards it, because you know we know the war was a terrible expensive. A lot of people die, that doesn't seem to get anywhere? Surely we should have let these as we go back so conga bowls of Congress. I don't think they hand gonna happen anymore. Quite like that, you know the idea will invite This thing, like the old man stuff yeah, which I think the Nazis did the last version of that five wars of conquest, to now being replaced by wars of defense, was of defense or wars that are hidden behind things under some other hospice yeah yeah. We need to the I we've come in to defend these people. They didn't need defense or what was great about it and still that they will come Reagan was doing good.
Another attempts to control natural resources yeah. Well, I think that's what a lot of these are yeah and then is economic wars in spring two and then stopping terrorism in his tracks and trying to keep these radical terrorists from taking over certain countries and strongholds. But we don't really have done a good job of that. When is the next level? Will you need to do that and then pre in the countries. Understandably, don't like people dying abroad, and then you know was a defense to the. I wonder whether that's can happy that you know this is the cover up right to defend the idea that this country is there. A better set up should be able to go in, should be willing to go in and defend people having a really tough time and try to get the PA politics to work on that. You know if someone is managing this year when Hitler was menacing within his own country. Now when did any
yeah like when Stalin was menacing in his own country. Now here comes back thirty million dive understanding, but no one went in there. One said: hey, we gotta whistle blowing time to go in and help you. Just we didn't go in well, we don't even go in for N Korea. I we're in in this weird position with North Korea. We have this military dictator who's, clearly oppressing his entire nation, and this strange to see in two thousand and nineteen limited internet. I mean they have like an intranet. They have like their own version of the internet where they have a few websites that you could visit they've got everybody locked down and in poverty, extreme hunger, like the the ones that have escaped from North Korea. I mean they've had these soldiers, malnourished have parasites. It's it's an awful awful
condition is weird right now, if you see when N Korea does military maneuvers, it looks like the Nazis and you thought well that Nazi thing well, you know I don't like that answer. Talbot, had they get all these people doing that with N Korea could do it will hang on. This is just a thing. If you spend all your time, just marching up and down You can make that happen and Lenny Riefenstahl can go and film it and with low angles and make it look dramatic, make it look fearsome yeah and we're better off globally than we were during world war. Two the world is better off. The world is better off in the western world is more progressive and more open minded. Since you, came out in nineteen. Eighty five verses in two thousand nineteen were sitting here today. Yeah, it's a different world Jeff and I are meant. I that's that's why I'm glasses to says? Well, I do think we are in better place. There is more tolerance, but it does go a few steps forward, one step back and then an always always going to have Charlottesville it's not
rallies, are going to have like weird pocket. It's of racism, and we think we like. I can't fucking believe this is still at yeah, but I have a little, the setbacks there was something I end in Germany, some, like ten thousand people, were warning to vote for the notes by the maybe it's more, but you know that's a country of eighty million. So let's get the perspectives right. Yeah it's a certain things happen on television. You go well and thats oversee why they do them right to crane that rage get on television. You go wow! That's it's! All of it's happening everywhere. I will now is, is in a small place. Yeah. I mean sometimes well the beautiful things that human beings can do s stunning. We you know we could. We could have so many stories are just amazing things that humans there and then that you put the horrible things that we can do. That goes on forever. If there was a god, I don't believe in God, but if you did count, I said what, if you guys do who these bastards and you guys well done. Guys who these that well. Well, If I said the Lord works in mysterious ways, so look at the world,
I doubt that is for mysterious yeah. Maybe seven is that correct? I think wobble too was a test for God, 'cause sixty million people died and at some point with Ok, how many people need to die before you come and blow whistle and say: woah? What's the guy with mustache doing, let's get ready getting off the board, flipped him off the board. That was my test for God and he didn't come so I think it's uh Well, he didn't come when we mean what they did. What is it was obviously horrific, but what we did when we drop nuclear bombs on Hiroshima and nagasaki- that's pretty fucking horrific as well. No, mention whatsoever from the big guy. No, no, he they come in. I mean you didn't catch the bomb in midair, going hey, there's, kids down there, 'cause women down there. Disease are not soldiers. I was in the city. I need to say this and I'm not I'm not taking the from that that the jack in these. I thought the Nazis were fanatics, but the Japanese at that time took even fanatical. You know when the last japanese soldier surrender, if you know what year that was like one thousand nine hundred and eighty or something seventy five. I think it is a good thing.
Open Google heat he was on, and I I mean that I mean how fanatical before they committed still one thousand nine hundred and seventy five, seven thousand four hundred and seventy five Yeah, ok, well, they have an amazing warrior culture. I mean thing: we were talking about martial arts, giant percentage, in judo and jujitsu of martial arts came from this one island I mean They perfected, so many different martial arts and it's more it needs any other country, yeah? Well, green. I think that ties did it best. I think the ties develop the best writing style and then the Japanese developed the best grappling style but Japanese are known as more warlike there times. You never have the time or did they used to in the ties figured out the best way to gamble on fights they figure out the best most brutal style of fight- and that is the They incorporated a lot of things that other people didn't, including like leg kicks and knees and elbows, and they
really often like they would have these like to this day. They have lumpini stadium and all these different stadiums in Bang cock. They have the stadium, champions and they have matches on a consistent basis, and so these people are fighting from the time they're really really young, like they're, taking like six and seven year old boys and their girls is oh they're, sending them off to these thai camps and teaching them how to fight and then having them fight. You know they have one hundred fights by the time. They're. Sixteen wow yeah image with Thailand's very strange because they're so friendly there smiley and friendly, yet they had they developed, probably the most fearsome, striking style on the planet. I have a calm and then they've got to this transgender thinker jazz well got a lot of that going. They've got a they've, they've and and the Van diagrams of what's going on that that that Ross and what isn't is acting here so much great food. I mean they have so much cool, shared beautiful environment, it's a weird place,
spent islands a weird place. I love it. Do they feel apocalypse now there 'cause. I think they do was that Vietnam, no, I think some Vietnam. Filipino that's right. It was Mongols again because they cause rockers kept. Saying the aircraft back. I want the helicopter back there coming they picked off somewhere, there's no when a Marcos when you've got a whole regime went down, all we heard about was milled Marcos, shoes. Yes, I remember the whole thing. The debate was at a bad time there, because they were invited to a place that they didn't know about, and they all right anybody got yeah, that's with a loss to that was the way in the back of a truck there holding on to flow through the back of a truck, and they would have been at it. What what we play all these places you That's when they started getting ahold of there are going to do what We want to do rather than what someone else yeah so
I mean I'm with you in that I am ridiculously optimistic. I I think that I think people I mean I'm. I follow Steven Pinker's logic of that people will sort of look at the. Horrible things that we have today and say God, this world is terrible. So there are definitely terrible aspects, but this is without doubt greatest time ever to be alive that we've ever seen at least in recorded. In history. I would agree with that. I think Medication is a giant part of that. It is this global world which we thought was going be I have a thing in the biz on a hellish thing. In fact, it's go beautiful aspects and somehow Jasper yeah as any invention has you know like internet hey, you can teach someone how to save their life on on the internet. Hi you because he's going to make a bomb in the in the in a seven yeah. I think this is always where every next step we get, we will have. Some positives then, will hit the
negative yeah and then we'll go back to small positive, so yeah I've got to be. Yeah. Well, I am an optimistic person, otherwise it just wouldn't be here, but this military aspect that I've mentioned flip. After that, but I do try- and I think I need to do this. I think that's a good thing to do now. I need to do that. For ten nine years I've been saying I'm going to politics I'm going next year, but it might not be a general I try and plan ahead because I can't if I randomized it, I just float 'cause a lot of people do for how this happened, and then that happened and then I was, and that could be under life, but I have my river analogy: if your canoeing down a river, if you go at the same, speed. Is the river they could throw you into Roxy could give you a wonderful ride. It could be anything but it's up to the river, but as I've pedal like crazy. Sometimes I back pedal like crazy. I have actively back pedal against things and and sometimes use them pad enforcing the speed of the river, to try and guide myself, whom you see that whenever do these canoeing uhm? Well, anyone driving a boat through for a river
I look at human interactions objectively. Part of me, to consider that there's a possibility that we need all this negative in order to reinforce the positive. There's some component of Hugh in life, that desires or or LISA Pon negative things. To reinforce positive things that CNN Yang that we exist under that this this that week, we the horrors of war and horrific poverty, and all these terrible things in the verbal violence. We this, and it actually serves to reinforce our desire for positive things and reinforce and push our society in a more positive direction, I mean I almost think that this is when we see national tragedies and shootings and all these different, terrible, terrible things. There's there's all this fear and anger and frustration, but there's also action in the.
Action might be, might think. There's a lack of action by politicians or lack action by the police or a lack of a. And by you know whoever we think should be responsible, for mitigating these horrible. Such since it happened, but publicly the social fabric of the roll the way people communicate and interact. I think it enforces our desire to not have that happen. It reinforces our our understanding of peace and our love of peace, and I think that these these bad things that we see in our world. There almost propel us towards a better world, because human constantly striving for improvement. Innovation is one the things that we do. We want things to be better and bigger and faster and stronger, and we want our society to be better at all times. We never say this is good. Let's keep it just the way it is we never. We never say that so Might my thought is that even this, even what we
experiencing in this country. We like it seems at times that were almost like on the brink of civil war between the right and the left and people are lying on both sides and conflated opinions in changing people's perspectives in order to suit their own narrative that I think that this ultimately, all this angst and you see it from the outside- you look at it or what the fuck are. We doing, I think, it's a natural part of the way human beings figure out life. I've I've worked our sponsor sure yeah. I I think I think, almost the same as you, I would talk to his side of me. I've noticed that humanity irony sometimes gets going and does things on his right up against the wall. You know somebody that needs this. These things to go on after World WAR two's and are we went right to the wire and then and then suddenly, we came back and maybe not even it wasn't even
the political will on that it was just if the Japanese hadn't bombed Pearl harbor. We wouldn't you guys, would've, had you guys in us with us for yes all that over there, the forces, the the forces and they pay and to the tanks the the Sherman is coming in, you know we needed that coming in and without the russian people we wouldn't have won World war two, and that was when they were in this agreement. So I can't quite workout humanity I do think positive. I do think of the negatives you can appreciate. The post is do thing. One thing on on the Brexit Brexit thing that's been going on is a lot of young people are coming out and saying we're going to lose all this stuff ability. We could travel to Europe without visas. We can work there, we could retire there. We can get a healthcare there all across Europe and that's something we cut off roaming charges going to go out with all that people are valuing what they could lose a lot more so yeah, the yen and Yang the you can. I think I think it's going to
on this way and also some people once we get to a good place. I've noticed that a lot of people will say: ok, I'm not going to be politically active anymore. I'm just Carol during my life and other people can so things I've noticed people will get activated to get to a result, may be an election or something or referendum or whatever it is, and then they'll they will just back off. They get frustrated I said well, they just think. Well, that's done that's Baghdad in a positive way, maybe and just say, but now I'm not even going to pay attention to what's going on, but things will start rolling backwards. So I think, we're going to keep having it like that. Maybe the the percentage of positive things to if things has never changed over all the years over the last ten thousand years, just as more people? welding, more positive things in doing more negative things may be human It hasn't changed. Our brain sizes haven't changed even back to the caveman days. You know even back the last one hundred thousand years the size of our brains is not moved. So we, if you went back to seven hundred and seventy thousand years ago, we would still
be able to have conversations like this, even though we wouldn't have the radius and things that be more on our tribe I think I'll try this better than you actually Steve. I don't know if our tribe is better than that tribe. I just think members are similar, then some good people that drive in December has in that trial. We need to maybe trade with them or we can go to war with him, but then we could die a lot and Shirley could die and Kenny and Roger an attorney to do that, because those conversations were happening in the slightly different way. I think all the way back and a way that we want just give me food, you'll, nice, good, three, five, it wasn't that the it was. Maybe do you know millions of years ago, but not seven hundred thousand years ago, and we only speaking one hundred what we've developed is there? I'm fascinated by us as human beings. 'cause we we we would just another animal and now we are
have amazing animal remains beautifully. We landed on the bloody man you guys out of the men which I as a child, so that we landed on the moon, benefit you to accept them, but they they in the APOLLO eleven. They kept a quite open. I think Michael Collins in the command module said this is for the world and it was just kind of feeling in the alarm strong. It is it's a nice yeah I I grabbed hold of that. As a kid I was growing up. You know that young of meat is a pretty weird thing to think that we went from not being able to talk to space. Try evil in a hundred thousand years, and I mean that's what they think right. They think that people didn't have real language Hyundai, yes August, two genetic. I think it's about a hundred thousand years ago, the best when it came to the first, which we said was let's go to the moon one hundred thousand. What's your name Jack Kennedy? Ok, Jack, good idea, but in the back burner for a moment, what do you think happened that turned us into this? Do you ever stop
think about that. Well, I don't think it's a block up says flooding in the class, because you know they used to live in the class and we flew through the clouds and no one ever mentioned he's not in the class. So I it's. It's a randomized! If that you know, I just think these, rather like dinosaurs hundred and sixty five million years of those right and all the it was eight kill, it kill poo an have sex. That's all. I did those things for hundreds five million years. We've had three images since the enlightenment of human rights and democracy and stuff, like that. If we can reset the great grace to the great thing really it's lost village. Is there one hundred and sixty five million years of that? But why did they come along when we had These creatures in the sea is any huge ones. Something happened, something twisted randomizing things. It's six hi. I week we
maybe we'll never know, but it has happened, and I just don't think a bloke did it upstairs with a big beard said now is the time that you speak now you make handbags and now fight was with the mg. Forty two now Now you know it, I just I just think it happened and we need to roll with it and try to make humans work. On this planet 'cause, I'm we're going to Mars soon, and you can just say it: the future We got it going on Mars that somebody is crazy. We won, vote. We got our own motion government, you sure! U s! You, though, they're gonna treat us same way, yeah reckons treat the british and emotions come back and attack us. The markets are going to actually come. You could just see that in some sort of you know, how did you bring lunch or yeah definitely happy, so I spare about humanity- and I and I and I I celebrate humanity. I do this thing actually that which I think is- and I don't say this is not some of them doing it to
so at the moment here in Europe, but I'm going to come out of this use to on the 75th anniversary of D day, and I fly to cart in normally, but you're doing a stand up. Tour yeah it turns out to the whole of America. Are you doing any dates in LA yeah? I'm at the it will be theater from the 26th 29th of June. Ok, the Doby it was Kodak. We want to come out and also yeah if I'm twenty six inch well I'll. Look at it later yeah it's already zone, dot, com and but I go I go to Normandy, 75th anniversary of D Day and I do and they fought the battle. Only in German of him, as I am in french and English, on the other side, and so I do three shows in german, fair share fifty minutes in German and then every fifteen minutes in in within minutes in French, and then we have a buffet and everyone hangs out and we need everyone and we all the gems, because the french and English, because I've heard that you're doing that. That is incredible. That you're doing stand up in multiple languages, yeah
How long did it take you to learn that when I did I did french school for eight years. I did Germans over two years so it was they sort of low level political thing. I just thought: if I'm an english guy going to France doing in French, then maybe a french cake go well. Thank you. I'm going to do in English. Right now the germs doing is the Russians are doing English. The spanish everyone's going to English, because you can do a Hollywood, career, potentially or on television in English, you can also tour world in English. Now you can use it as a bridging language. We were talking about. Google translate. I know french kids friends get my friend yes seen by loose. Performed in Helsinki in Finland and finnish kids have been what in the second language, they've been watching in English and listening in English and he's been performing a french guy performing in English, so they met and laughed in a second language which I think is amazing thing, but now you could tour the world that way
so this is the but anyway, so I'm going to go to Normandy and it's a commemoration of the battle happened in seventy five years ago and it's a celebration that now we don't go to war in those three languages anymore and you have different fifty minutes force french different fifty minutes will same ideas, but the words are all absolutely the german French. To give you an example, I had uhm, I said Caesar I've told you. Jesus, it's easier to the everything that one day he, and that was a salad it was more like guys. He's now sat at a french say the Escalade Jammy imagine a duty when they imagine college each. Yet I on silent when they would finish up as a solid in german states I had a a good tax. Did he ever think? That's at I n mallet. He one time I was is allowed to end inverter. As Salad end up would have you got the verb,
but they still laugh at the same place, but maybe about half a second later split. Second later as salad salad and up would have so I have to really have a deep understanding of how to structure the sentence. Is it's just practice really, you know anything in life, you could do it. If you, taking that. If you speak, you don't speak any language, anything if they took you and suddenly for some reason you were to be in any other, come Thailand say, say somebody dropped a big block of heroin, engineer things and as a social experiment, and they fill this on Jays smuggling. So you have to go prison. This is kind of extreme example anyway, and then you'd be learning within one month you have basic sentence, is going anywhere. He goes to prison's, going to have sure whether you know if you were the restaurant you went anyway, you work with no ones giving you any English coming in. You just have to pick up the words survival instincts would pick them up and then you might have a strong accent, but you didn't we. You me everyone.
Yeah, so I just again use the output. I can set up this artificial, scenario of I have to do this, so I had to learn French, so I started before I did. This show this bond about her was a german title. Many wonderful and I started in French, so I just jumped. I guess I improvise to to what I don't write anything I just going to hate check. It was going to check his check and check in with a gun dangers. You don't write your act now. I just improvise it and really I'm out of I sort of what, Shop endlessly until it gets asked, and then you memorize it well. I know it because I said it last time: correct so in French, I'm just going, they put a label is a and all I'm fully Donald Trump's adventures and Ellie combat. Record and listen to quote every show and never listen to them. Haha you recording phone or do national, so we have professional setup. So with some time
is not with the laughter mixed in I've. Just been listening back to the german shows in Berlin and the laughter is very low in the mix. So I'm saying these jokes are going. Is anyone laughing so it's just from the microphone yeah the feed there, but they had another one where they had it mixed low, but yeah. You need to have a second microphone on the audience. Just bring that mix up right or maybe bring it right up so yeah. It credibly funny I just found doing another language, it's a positive thing it sends out. A nice message is hands across the water coming down from you. Can you I'm from us and the comedies I do sort of python. Esque Monty python types real comedy, and so I just need find that audience in France. That already is in Germany that audience in Thailand is there. You know I've played Kathmandu, I'm at kids on Kathmandu in New York on the street. She said that you comedian, I said yeah where you from from Kathmandu, Wow Kathmandu, a kid on Kathmandu. What you doing here is well I'm doing I'm a student, but your English is good yeah, it's pretty good yeah! Well, can I do
big in Kathmandu. You think so yeah. I think you do again. Karen do that. So I said: ok, that was in twenty ten twenty seven years. I got there two thousand and seventeen. How was it? was good. Unfortunately, the local I less to the locals that have these couple of s, quakes, which the you know you to I think everyone has earthquakes and but no they haven't had them for ages and something they had two bad with quick. So they would getting over that. So I was mainly aid. Workers unfortunately but I was there, but I can go back, but Now it was a nice setup, but I played you know, went all through in Tokyo and I played in Hong Kong and Shanghai and had all the guys from 'cause you have. The people from the Communist Party come along to check you out, so I'm not going specifically in or something my stuff is old label from the comedy. What the communist party
No, the Communist Party yeah, you know, because I thought you were saying that China Comedy Party no so coming yeah. Sorry, just me mainly my way, Also. They come and check it out to make sure you're not violating anything. Yes, you certain areas, you're not supposed to whatever I don't know, I just what I want to do the cake so but, but I was I was going to change. I have with self about Gandalf talking to to buy the flies in and talk about ancient kings like Henry the eighth in and William, the conqueror in and stuff. So the program entirely. They they stayed. Please stay they'd only disappear after awhile, but So it's a it's good to get out near each other. As you said, play the world sees us see it to see. If I will- yeah. I don't play very many put played in Australia and England. I've done gigs in stock home and Northern Ireland. Dublin a few other places in Europe, but
the time when I go on vacation, I just go on vacation. I just go to experience it just to have fun so just to be there so you've have you never written Iraq down, No, I couldn't I used to sketch comedy like Monty Python thing and I wrote those and then I was doing street full of four years and that's very and written. I is now that is very difficult right, so it's difficult to actually develop material. For that. So, I did that for four years. So I got into this thing of wild ST performance like how. So what would you do if we're double initially ma'am upon my partner, and we did it things. Scraping from a woolly jumper. He just right for William. However, I returned to its can only do Yes, that a Willie cardigan again, we would pull over hello, okay, yeah, a sweater, yes, whether yeah, so instead of
straight jacket. He said we take this Felice West because take a sweater just ridiculous, ridiculous Adam I am making a bowl of conflicts disappear because you ate it yeah a. So at its best the guy. This is even say this guy's crazy right at that they plan give his five pins as what was, these people are insane, this is awful. I've been working with them sword fighting that was good because I've directed three musketeers at university, and so doing showing you how to kill someone when drunk or thing when you do it, you know all these different moves, so that was quite fun I went solo and I was doing ask apology from chains and ropes, and then from a five foot unicycle from a pair of manacles esque, ology Mediascape Ology as good a real thing is that what you have called you guys really called yeah call you cook on things a name for it never heard of that. Having a good will tell us, there is an escape
artists and others escape artist. Eschatologies does exist, Houdini was it his word. I'm just a thing called Escapology live escape games, world escape rooms and there's a bunch well. I don't know if it's the same thing as escape room. No, those are escape rooms. Yeah, let's get Palazhi should be a wiccan art form. It sounds like it's not really obvious a craft. Well, no Houdini yeah I was an artist of that I was. I was at Jobing Crofting crafting really simple practice. Practice space camping from restraints, yeah, yeah yeah go steal books. Barrels bags things. So I was escaping from ropes and chains and do made a conscious decision to do this, like on the street like this is yeah you're, developing yeah. That was developing because I couldn't get my sketch comedy thing wasn't going. I bet there's a thing called the and professional we have gotten yeah you never. So I did twelve others in the hands right before I took office. I did three doing sketch and then about four doing street, but on the street. You have this freedom. You know the freedom when things are working a bit and and it's real.
A federal? No one's checking you out. No one knows you just on the street right, so I I I was wrong, use the service and then I developed a confidence that got conference. You know the the stomachs many important properties in fighting as well the something that comes out of it. There's a confidence center in the stomach really yeah, the something West. Are you interview with fighting sevens. You neurons right. It's like this is something everything joins that hit the something to do with it. Anyway. I felt I developed this confidence on my own to go and stand on. If you have a scene, have the film my fair lady, or that film of Liza Eliza Doolittle that is set on gun is a massive piazza, Passive Square Washington. I park in New York was the query another ST foreign place. So it's a big open place,
I could stand out that on my own and talk to no one and build up an audience. I would set out these tea cozies, which a little animal to Kerr's he's ducks and hamsters that, with the wind things things that just look like animals and put them on the floor. People thought this guy's crazy and I'd stop talking and the vin literate. Now, when sometimes I say good afternoon again- do show welcome to the invisible audience very nice to have you here and I have this covered. If I just kept talking like we either in your report, You know you keep talking and going yeah because I had some visible people here as well. This dance, jacking canyons got- and I would just go on in until I built up about twenty people, then I could start the show and then we get into it and if you're doing and ask ology, show in the end, you're going to get out worked out how to get out, and so there will be a definite end and then you can say now don't go, and please can you give me some money. So that's why my living, but it did that's the ninja training of performing 'cause. I learned to perform when people
even want to see me right now, because normally they come into a room at least like ok, who is this guy then I bought were in the room. So let's drink a beer and watch, but if they're on the street they don't have to watch, they could just walk over. They often did So it was, it was a tough I haven't. I, I lost all my confidence on the street. In fact, I there's a thing army. Does this the you know, break you down, build you back at the marine, making that build you back out. They also in drama school. They break it down. Building by this kind of idea I accidentally broke myself down and built myself back up on the streets of London, so wow it's kind of beautiful and that's where I was creatively born. This new version that had this thing, ok, to talk about chickens, how many chickens, change, light bulb. Well, quite a lot, because you know that counts and unless I had a friend with, maybe a dog could help them, but I could rig up something you guys I just walked
right, stuf, and if it didn't, have a punch side and can I just carried on just kept going and then the confidence things for the kids youth? He just does what hours So if you release a special on the released calmly specials before yeah, how you develop new material once that special is been released, I will do work in progress shows so which it took from Lily Tomlin, who did a lot of work in progress, and then she did show on Broadway. I think I thought I used to do the old took a nice to to a to a two until at the end would fill me, and I begin the next to with the old turn. Just keep improvising in the show. 'cause. I've only improvise on stage- and I would build up by the end of the next two- will be a different show, but that didn't seem to work for people as they said we completely new show. So now I do this. Wip shows what in progress shows and I will go on stage and muck about just talking about chickens or banjos. If do you have a structure when you start like say if it's the day after your specials done, and now you have to
going to whole new special you're. Doing a work in progress show first to do How do you develop? We went out with my life. I did it once I just said: ok, let's go through my life and so when I was so, you may not know this, but I went I was living in northern island. There were born in Yemen. I would go through. I've done this way. I went troll through my life. I need some sort of structure, otherwise I'm stuck. I also found that one side recorded the show like I lost tour, forced measure I took five years 'cause I just found there are no rules on touring. I could just keep going back and added forty five countries, so I can just keep on going. And I found this certain things I've developed after we recorded it that were interesting and worth keeping. So I said: ok, well, that's not in the old show, I'm going to pull that start off the new show with that little bit, which is that little piece of material which is fun about. And I was dog dogs looking at me- you know
also has with dog woofing at me, and this is in the show now and I suddenly thought for the first time ever, 'cause dogs have booked at people all, but it's bigger. I thought what is a dog actually trying to say if the dog had folks p two injected into him, so he could suddenly talk what would he say to me? What is that well for, for what does that mean, and so it goes into the he's, basically saying assassins he shouted assassins out here, but I know I'm a dog is my job? Get a gun bulldogs are very sure. You've never heard an uninsured job back in your life. King sure, they're out sure that it's assassin's. It's not the first one, not the guy. With the hamster Assassin's are here alarm danger, Will Robinson. Why have you never written anything down? Well, I found wish. I could run right stand up, but I would go. I was trying to type it all right it. So if you go into a soup,
I'm very sorry, I'm dyslexic, so I'm slowly Superman. And then that I just thought I couldn't I couldn't write. I I seem to be faster if I was just had living it, so you got the supermarket this guy and insurance fruit you going this route this fruit and I found, if I just did it by finding it with the words and this food and some for and despite squeeze it on you, and so I just thing all things are to think about for so why is it true there? Why not toilet paper never going to supermarket and toilet paper there, 'cause they'd say: well, that's a pull shot. You know you have to go and it's fresh up. We got fresh fruit here, so we're very fresh or ok. That's why the fruit right up front and you gotta squeeze it, but how much do squeeze it, and how do you know is that the right pressure to squeeze it explodes any, So I would just keep checking it didn't work you just move on and that's how I developed uh
this very conversational style that I have which people say it's best. We improvise age. That's nice is just dumb. I I am. I am always ready to provide any point. Some people, if you write a thing you say well, that is how that piece goes and it's locked in. But if you employ wise thing. I've notice, I came up with this thing of molten material when you first create a new idea that it's working, it's very open and live like Quicksilver like Mercury, and then you can add another bit. Another bit another bit and you can do it once you put it into a shape, then it becomes lockdown. It becomes like a prayer and you can lose the joy of it. It becomes recitation- and I thought so- don't ever have it down keep it open, keep its was loose so that every time you say, you're saying a bit differently and that's the style of developed, and so I can improvise at any point in the show. I could just stop and go what are
why have we got walls? Walls are the people that you know most animals in the world. Don't have walls, but we've got one that good how it's raining. They don't have balls, but there ok, hey should we have in. I just wonder about Wilson's: okay, don't talk about wills and I've ever gangs. Now so seven again anything out of it. I get jokes on the way out. I got lost on the way out if I can get in the way, and so that's the technique of developed now when you say dyslexic. So if you read something, what do you say? I I really. I see it, but I get word blindness word blindness I I just see other words long words hi. I couldn't wrap to my This is to be a just to say, let alone to spell how just find it. I subvocalize so in my head, I'm going man goes down. What are you doing here? so. Let's say that you know when your kids, they actually read it out loud and I'm not reading out loud, but I'm saying in my head and other people there
do a page. You know they do this speed reading and they just really shouldn't shouldn't and they could just take it whole pages, and it's done I I don't understand that either that's tricky, so my spelling cat with a k ceiling with an logical spelling. My writing is all over the place smaller letters bigger letters, an that to me- and they said I'm severely, eighty atypically a typically dyslexic. So I have a huge mental. Map memory, I can hold a lot of things in the memory in my head. So that's just sort of a permanent distinction like you. This is who you are there's no way to fix that it seems so. I have if anyone this coming out of dislike saying now I can read much faster now I can do things. I just think you're stuck with that This means you think sideways and I think a lot of creative people are dyslexic. I think sideways yeah, so
you see clouds you see a line in the clouds you see puff, there's a train going through the sky. You know it's a creative thing, juxtaposing things on your wall, you have something which is they don't lead from one to the other. There could be fighting right against it or completely bonkers or out of it just looking at here in the you know and and linking things together, I think creativity would try. It was trying to throw us cells by in comedy by something that is with an opposite and funny sees a he should be there. I'm going for the salad line when I said that sees the everything is solid and then people seems to make people Africa I Caesar Salad and this guy was he murdered Military RD million goal people you know, and he ends up as a salad.
Is not cognac. The following is a cognac brandy, but he's a salad, listen so yeah. This is mine. The slicer tries, but I think you get dealt these cards when your bone, whatever genetic, because they are and the that the arts of life is to play your cards as well, as you can in the art of comedy, is to relay your life in a humorous way very much a master. Unique fingerprint yeah. As you know, if we all have experience well seems like another then we'll talk about your own life and your own perspective. It's got three different to the next person's: it's because No2 Is that what you enjoy the most the standard yeah dramatic films. I probably enjoy the Mars, because I want to do that. When I was a kid I discover the films with existed. I broke a pinewood studios, one of our big studios. When I was fifteen, broken yeah. Look at like we have a legally yeah yeah got into well. I
as watching a film battle of Britain and at the end it says, filmed on location in this in Spain and anywhere that a pinewood studios, Iver Heath Box and I was in the seventies- and I remember we did the videos we couldn't freeze. Things always have to scribble things as our scribbling down stuff off the end of films, and I said I promise to use of his boxer came. It was I've he's. What is that, but was a box? Okay, bucks, a shot for Buckinghamshire, that's, but I've he's must be a town, it's a weird name, tent city via village, number, village or town. So I got a map of the United Kingdom, which had alphabetically every town and village and city there going listed alphabetically and I went all the way. And if I refuse but ok, that's where it is so I took a train from the S List of England up to London, as underground, train that to place called Oxbridge than a bus to roundabout and I got off. I said, there's pinewood studios and they said it's about half a mile down that road. So I marched down the road and I got to the big gay build entrance where all the big stars would come in and I went up and I haven't got this bit- worked out
I went up and I said, damn I'm going to I'm going to be in films. I'm going I come in, please, which is what I'm gonna I'm gonna make I got, I would be an act. Can I come in? It is a piece of cake. Now that is just what you just told, No I've come miles. This is a big, so I I thought there must be another way in how There was another entrance that was near, but it wasn't the main star enters. It was just the kind of mold Lori edges the track entrance, the bringing stuff, and I saw people going in and out. It was a drawbridge a bit like a where eagles. Dare the film what you, the energy, is someone on the gay and for people with showing them passes and stuff and other people walking in so I thought. Ok, you've got to have the confidence to walk in. So I did the sixteen one thousand five hundred and sixteen year old confidence I just
watched in and and so the sir and I was in, I was in the Bible. So then it is still a break in the universal I broke into into thing. He got a creek going pretty immediately. I didn't get nothing your fifteen- I know he's well. Would you expect is going to happen? What was your anticipation by was, as I've said, he's a standard that 'cause I had to walk at a certain speed if you're moving this certain speed, I thought that was going to stop you. So you come creep around. Looking is this 'cause? They said what are you doing here? I just saw in fact it's kind of loose inside studios. No one really knows what everyone else is doing, so you can actually creep around a bit but I will run a certain speed and I said I'm not Sars marching down streets in up on some past studios in an. I was hoping somebody hey you kid yeah. Oh you're, marching around yeah we're doing the film called the marching around kids,
Maybe it is just exploded. Can you yeah it's about your aunt. Can you say words String of us together are there leave I'm, we're done here. I've drafted two hours and I'm much I have since failed twice or three times a pie with me and I'm going to want to do and where every time I go back and I'm actually filming that guy I broke in here. This is what I like. Look at very slow speeds down streets, knowing that anyone could stop Bianca, I'm just filling in the contest. It's yeah, it sounds so. I love films and I just finished my first film six minutes to midnight the co written and produced in its set just to the this little seaside town like America, seaside town as well as well for the old days when people used to go to seaside towns before they went to the hot country,
and Quebec Salon sees the Hastings Brighton, a South Pacific and the twenty six schools that, for some reason, twenty schools. It was long thought there was an l, Delaware, that's at, of these things. New and one of them had young girls. German girls who linked to the Nazi Haiku, and they were over to learn English and make friends be ambassadors, and because there was you're awfully fascism in Germany in the with fascism, Britain and they were making friends and- and that was the idea it was going to be the head. I have this idea of linking out with version taken after which some people in Britain before this and I'm still out of its against, and so around this skill school and I was showing the badge the Blazer Bay
so because his blazer and blue base and had a badge and it had's the name of the School Augusta Victoria College, app excellency and at the top it has a british flag and then the nazi swastika. Next to it- and I thought holy cow- just never seen those two flags right. Next to each other the same badge, so I thought this is film in that so we've made it feel wow dentures in it, Jim Broadbent, both Oscar winners and myself, and when will that be released, rolling it out from the end of this year from fall, as you call it autumn for this so your love of acting creating films. That's that's your primary. Even Trump stand up. I do love stand up and I can do that whenever I wanted it. Trumped is still a word. I know, isn't it weird? yes, so it's weird that must! He must love that. That word exists that Trump actually means to one up and better? I'm even going to go there crazy right?
yeah. It also means making tricks. You trump things and you can make tricks. Oh really, I didn't know that we have tricks in cards and you see how many tricks have you got. That was tricky Dick Nixon. So that's another person who did one or two lies and truths yeah down his yeah. He was also about a guy. So anyway, yes, it's I'd, love I do love, stop it well. I was never planned wrist and I was going to be a sketch comedian comedy well, I was going to be an actor and I thought I can't do it might taking the edges, I had no sexual self confidence. The transgender thing didn't play a partner. I just I was playing football to suck set up till thirteen. So I've got hey, I'm gonna run about guy, I'm kinda fast, athletics. Whatever, then I go to school, I'm nothing and there's no girls there, and I can't do this and it well bodies, and you know that I just lost all my confidence, and I just I come quite small. It's cool, it was all about orchids. You play the matic, lead small kids, the other slave in the servant. So I thought, ok forget this.
To comment. I the companies, I love the comedy and Monty Python discovered them. I thought: ok, I'll do the darling. I love you you're made out of cheese. I have my knees on fire with. You know just make it rubbish, and I thought ok, that's easier, so I did that they wouldn't take up. My courage is: wouldn't left school dropped out of university, couldn't get it going and by the time he got going. When I was about thirty, I thought I'm not going to hold on to this company and start doing drum at the same time. So I've run these parallel things and I'm going to be Broadway at the beginning of next year, who's afraid of Virginia Woolf with Laurie Metcalf. Oh wow got really production, so interesting, movie yeah great movie, as I said, I'm doing who's, afraid of Elizabeth Taylor on language about them and yeah. That's a that's an amazing pressing. The number for me Judy Dench in films, the Stephen Frears Film, victorian,
um, so I'm getting great drama roles. Now I've pushed along time to do that. But normally, if you do comedy, they won't. Let you drive you drama, you don't review, comedy, that's sort of breaking down, though Right Steve Carell's. Steve Carell he has he has moved to. If he does, I'm not sure he's doing the exactly where Steve Girls gone, John Lithgow also see say who someone is very short, dramatic forever than you did federal for the summer, beautiful and, and he was nominated every year and won two Emmys and now he's sick, I was just fantastic work yeah I was on news radio. At the same time, I was out so we're in the same network. Right you know, yeah his stuff was is great. Dr yeah hi is stunning in a play them Churchill and the Crown Winston Churchill a doctor sigh which
each of the people that know about which I well he's a guy. That really has a a love of theatre and love of performing when it when he talks about you could see like his his goosebumps raise, and you just you could see is it is he gets excited? Yes, I I can house a feeling. I mean he's played such a range okay, if you're playing evil. You just think this guy. So even when he's playing the character and and the the AMOS Several for the sun, it's just a bit of. I watched any company for some reason come I can download in Britain, but I found a place. I could find it. So if I'm on the second I've watched every single episode and I'm going through the second time So it's just beautiful stuff. So when you're you got in the stand up comedy when you first started doing what is the scene like in English as it was there comedy clubs we go to would open MIKE night. We were, how do you and we were if we were copying, you guys, I I think
Daddy Bruce set up the more alternative version 'cause. I still think in America it's always stayed kind of mainstream Lenny Bruce is definitely doing alternative. Knows you love Lenny. I love that but yeah. You know I play them on stage and that was What did you play a man? What way film was from upstaged by Dustin. Hoffman Adam remember was a stage play. Dustin Hoffman was fantastic. That movie. He was so close. And the guy who plays him in the marvellous MRS Maisel, at very good as well. I know that's very interesting. Is it because I'm watching that, I'm thinking, okay, the I've I've gone to the clothes myself, but I did mine in the eighties and the nineties. That's in this 50s wow. I I salute take myself. There then is Lenny. Then I think I know Lenny me the by the ways to die down? Ok, that's me. Oh yeah, that but I was I was doing the stand up. I see
Why do I think I put that together now that was, and I called the Jesus crisis of comedy, because as a jewish guy, he died fastened to die for us to give us the freedom of speech yeah. He died for freedom of speech because they in the end they will go to hell into. I know, but He shouldn't complain that yeah. Getting a measure that we could say what we wanted to understand. Yeah, the MRS Meisel things makes it a little bit little homogenized like him like in even his struggle. It's almost like it's no big deal you in the latest season is it was it three or two hundred and twelve three hasn't released, yet there filming it right now I've gone through both of 'em. It's really good. It is not accurate, like historically it's way off Mark, there's no woman who's talking like that back then it wasn't. There was no MRS Mays, now, I really liked it and it's interesting. She yeah, like nor Mcdonald, got me
add about it. There's like cabs and there's no woman like that back then I would say that she does not have attempted Fuckin' showmen, the hawks, not really there is no guy who becomes the hulk now enjoy it. I really like normal tone, but I love him. Yeah I didn't have. There was a. She was swearing like a like a soldier on this stage very quickly, very quickly, which that was I found, I don't know how she rammed into that, and then she dropped out of it. It was that was and then she went to France and I wanted to Dan did stand up the song was translating, and that was where I have done in French, and I don't think I could have got that bad in a wide at that just to be a site. Each not jump shot going up. Yeah soaring rendition was artistic interpretation. Artistic interpretation big. It wasn't realistic, but it was still
it was it's a person who makes a living doing stand up comedy. I was willing to let that suspension of disbelief taste. I, like the sexual relationship, is always coming back. The husbands always coming back into the frame yeah and his and his fight there 'cause yeah, but I did binge watch. That's what I'm doing I just sit down. I just watched everything. Yeah and but yeah Lenny. How do we get into Lenny, which we talk about something else, but anyway you know is griping Lanny Bell. Yes, I was, I was doing a sentence and I was just told by direct the whole the stand up to you, so I have no direction on it. So I just did it as close as I could have. Lenny would have done it. Did you listen to a lot of recordings? I did. That is very difficult for british kid. So maybe american kids of today to know because he's doing hipster reference, yeah yeah, the surfer, Tucker references and there's a there's, a Lawrence Welk. Is it there Welch? Well, it's yeah. We don't know
those guys so when he was doing this causes Sophie Tucker going. I could look after I had to look up the some of the punch lines. Now for the number of references 'cause you without the references you can't get it. This is a tree I do in universal human that I take either huge references or explain my references so that you know seizes everyone from the restaurant sees and if they don't well yeah anyway. Let's good is Lenny. Was it's really hard for people to listen to that comedy today? It doesn't necessarily transit, doesn't transfer. Well, you talk about Nixon Annual next next notices. Vice President Nixon, this yeah thing. So he It worked out that only all my stuff is non. Datable is no. I don't do any topical stuff. I don't do party political stuff, so it should not date. I do historical stuff 'cause that never dates. You know
sees. It is not going to come back now. Jesus changes. Whole thing is much nicer, though he's come back from the dead and he's cleaned up his act. So I've tried to do that in Python. Did this as well, you do stuff, it just doesn't really date. Most of it doesn't eight which is a handy things of the of the stuff comes yeah, but I did not stand up does and it's also the the after the the cultures, so significantly different between the late 50s and 60s, where Lenny Bruce was sore. Starting out in making his mark versus today. It's like, things that were naughty back then the things he could say that were controversial, there's nothing! Nothing! Today Literally it's a non controversy. Well, there's one that still had was when he said How many people using the n word they and as we're gonna just when the old yeah? How many are in right, yeah? How many do- and I did this- I used to do that on stage every night that was still striking tents, yeah yeah with the, The sentiment behind it was that these words only have power.
Because we give them an if you could use them again again again, yeah and for the gay community they taking the word queer. He claimed that yes, so it doesn't have the force anymore, and I have. That is a truth. He spoke. He was. That was a true analysis that he did, yeah, it was. We had some still there was uh, unfortunately, axle a friend of mine stole one of his jokes did didn't know, he actually just thought of the same premise that the premise was that homosexuality in some places illegal, and they do if they catch you? Well, they lock you up in jail with a bunch of men who want to have sex with you like that. Lenny Bruce is line by like dig. Homosexuality is illegal right, so what they do they put? in jail with a bunch of men. When I have sex with you and know that was his whole like in like that. Still would work today like, if is a place where homosexuality was illegal today and you did that joke it's a good joke. It's like set up Clients all right there, yeah
Lenny was ahead of it and you know his early stuff was more mainstream yeah. I have a believe yeah doing way. The way my name is Carla in if you listen to Carlin's early stuff, now I've heard of had yes, I think I thought it was like, like just like a typical Jack Paar Tonight Show set. It was all like really like down the middle squeaky clean and he wore suits and- He was a clean cut, your scene, Carl in the early days I di di. I think I've seen one side yeah. I do know there was one that was high in a suit. There was a change. Would let me have a complete change of that running in the film when he says you never play here and what's the area in upstate New York. Catskill water play, the Catskills yeah I remember when I watched it first, I thought: well, that's a terribly. To have it now. I know what that was. It was certain belts of you know how I am going to look at that. That's George Carlin right now
a little bit. This crazy for the Merv Griffin show big hassle. We never see The Indians prepare let's do this just because they started master measurement of defending. Doesn't. Is that style? You know he had that. I mean that's what you did back, then this is the Merv Griffin Show. I mean it really didn't have any options, that's how you yeah. Otherwise they wouldn't let you on yeah She didn't want change on a dime. Did he got arrested a bunch of times you know, and he became are wanting to the s, and you tell a story. It's justice d B, though, though dot the times changed, and I think You can only sit back and observe for so long before we start commenting on things and then he shifted and he became I think he was also Experian.
Bing prior like prior worse was, I think, Lenny Bruce was the original, but prior The one who made it insanely personal and it was insanely vulnerable stage and also he point to a lot of the things he was? I mean I think. If there's a great, I don't think there. Greatest stand up of all time, but if there is, it might be prior, you know that he just he had this perspective. That was just holy individual like holy him to ten years later, yeah yeah that's crazy. The really does change yeah. I mean he was a look at him. He's got like a fuckin', Steve Jobs, outfit on now, yeah he became it became a you know, a hippie
Hair got longer. Yeah yeah, yeah yeah, now Adam Rich, a private at acting rich pride is for me. He was our decide this. I have this base of of Monty Python, which is what I was gonna do, and then I had Richard Pryor and Billy Connolly, scottish comedian very calmly, those two belly toasted, just some relaxers with large groups of people and Richard was doing it was the acting out of all the characters thing. That was the wonderful thing. That's what I do and we did, it was a right, but the dog says the dog. Does this come on in here you go in to burglars. Get your colleague, oh yeah, you yeah, not yeah playing these, these different voices and characters and what he could do, and that was just that was stunning. Yeah. He was something special look at him back in the day too. That's literally him like on the wall. Back there, the mug shot, that's the same era. It could be that could have been
yeah might happen that night there's some fantastic recordings that I don't know where they are now, but they used to be able to buy them. I bought them at a truck stop and they were from red foxes, comedy club and they were cassette Tapes and I was on, I was doing a road gig and I think I found them and I bought a bunch of 'em and these boardings, were they just said- set up, tape recorder, and he doing these random sets at Red Fox Comedy Club, and it was lot of experimenting a lot of ad libbing a lot of musically. Really high on stage I mean he would go on stage high a lot and we just ramble about stuff and they would. You would see these bits forming coming out of that, and then some of those bits eventually would be on some of his more famous albums lately, his great great stuff. See this guy. Who is just so if you, if you go from you
Traditional stand up. Comedian from nineteen sixty like you, were seeing George Carlin on stage to what fire, was doing in the seventies. This is so different, so radically radically different and he took it to a different place. I wait to you talk about seen in Britain were interesting. We don't really have much of a phone industry if you don't have. It is quite sad. You know goes to this Eugene and in America, come to what we have. We have a quite a good tv industry so, but we took out like crazy, so there's lots of two is in the hundreds is five mg, this thousand seaters thousand five two thousand he was that goes on like and this the all the time way more they used to before, so that- and this does lots of clubs and they will love them with this room above a pop click type clubs. So I believe the clubs in America which much more set up those about things, system, people, commanded the drinks and and and it was called a AG cash outlay- had to get this club going and it would be in a most nights of the week. We have it one night
we could just be a function room in a pub that existed for maybe hundreds and hundreds of years, because all these pubs to be taverns drinking and wasn't used, and they said they were some guy would say: hey I'll, run a club up here, I'll take the door money, you take the bar money, and that was the deal so a lot of amateurs running it. So we had lots of club. We had that sixty seven thousand and eighty in London, the easy you can zip around that many yeah. It was a ridiculous amount, and so for me, with the Beatles have with the with the playing in Germany I had with the London and we'll have with playing in London, you could, you could do for in the night, five went for the night quite quite easily on the fighting Saturday, you just jump in taxes Is it between different, like they do in New York, yeah yeah, but it was just so many clubs awhile. So It was beautiful. I think, there's less now, but it's There's lots of open mic max now, so many people wanted to get into it. You can create. There's no toy
to the Korean. Now we playing in people playing arena so doing arena to is I'm out doing more fits two is on this one. My oldest is gonna, be older, but anyway jumping between that do you like playing Hollywood bowl here? You know in la that's such a beautiful thing to play an it's. The Greeks got it right. The laughter rolls down the hill yeah played it twice now, and it's just gorgeous You have never played there, but I've been there for a few times for a few different things. I saw Annie there and I saw the what is it oh up, hot nightmare before Halloween yeah but show and the metal yeah they do, the musical there do a version of it and they do the nightmare before Halloween, where they play them, they play the movie and then they have a symphony and the symphony and anything Svo kind of have kids and to say that, because, if I didn't enjoy it all I'm bored out of my mind
now I was just going to leave that no sir, I need your kind of give. You always comes in awhile like everything I like a lot of things that you would think he would you know that I have for the people of LA three with world and I I believe that the Hollywood bowl is a LA park, so you can actually go up there and have you SAM? which is anytime, you want, which is a beautiful thing. I do that again drive up there 'cause. It looks like don't come in here, there's, barriers and stuff, but now you can park up, so it's a pocket still a park. I love that space. It's just go. I knew the mounted by the play this. I thought I could play what's beautiful because all outdoors and Ella has such amazing weather and you look around. You see the houses in the distance. It's like this. It's a special little spot. It is beautiful. Yeah, hello, Dave, Chappelle's done some gigs there. I think Chris Rock did a gig there, and so it must be a fun place to perform too it's just. It works that Ampitheatre thing. I think it was the Greek. I came out democracy and empathy, sis and
do you still go to clubs at all? I don't so much. I was reading the definitive thing on Robin Williams and how he would jump in the clubs and do stuff and go out and doesn't that doesn't really work my stuff, I tend to get a small fee. I can do the club like for the working pressures of sting. I was taking a risk. They they they have the Al Masry Club in in Islington no angel in London. So, north northeast and and they had you know, show going on at six one of seven eight. You know- and I will take an hour of facts and just do that again again again so I'll I'll take an hour and I'll go out for an hour and workshop to Sherman, as opposed to coming on doing fifteen minutes on a off the top of my head, because I find that if I, if I'm completely going scatter gun, just try to find find that doesn't really help I need to keep crafting the stuff. We need more time share. Yeah. I also don't need if it's uh- it's just.
The comedy club? They want it faster. They want quickly once you know, I'm looking to hit the gags, I'm just looking to find things and have the space to stop and go. What is it about cheese right right? Why you got to reason you know it. I just want to waffle around until I go. Ok, that's a good, but I'll. Keep that pit right. Do you ever feel like like when you're doing that, like Jesus Christ ever get off this fucking subject? I there's nothing there. Well yeah. I do that, but then I do this thing. I write on my left hand, like, I said note to self when I go up. If I do pig farm pigs or something like that ever talk about pig farming. Are you guys will pick flowers? Alright, I'm not talking about never but she's again, cheese jugs do not work specially in north. We, you can just get a get lost on the way out career is over. Cheese is taking over my fat, my life, but some do you do some gigs dressed in your face. And some boy mode boy mode- or I can. I can
can do whatever I want now it complete human torch thing. I can fly with clever so can wear a dress or I could wear trousers and it doesn't matter they don't give a monkeys either. That's interesting! It's now! Well there, your fans, yeah, yeah they play in the coming yeah so, but they get disappointed if you dress up as a man, in my mind, to see girl mode that they uh, I dunno, I don't care didn't care. I can't be able to agree or wonder if that 'cause, that's nothing to do with the comedy. Yes yeah and I do think some people thought it was. You know he's going to talk about lipstick for two hours so anyway. Another lipstick, I know, is cross it at all to address it on your back diagonally. I will do it diagonally diagonally yeah. So never the front part of the the thing I will just say: oh I just I didn't think it was a good thing
I would not be the front of the subject. I might point in passing um. So front I'll talk about ancient king stuff, with banjos dogs with fighting cats. Thing like that right and then I might mention it just and passing as opposed to. Let me tell you about being transgender. I just don't do that. Much about for the fights I talk about the fight I had, which is in the street, and that this guy was saying this and, I said, this in so, which is that I I built a fight to huge thing for you stand of stuff, so I just I can make that into into something. But now it's not see because it's supposed to be the background of of what I'm doing the the essentially if you like surreal comedy off the wall, comedy that's what I do and I just happen to be transgender, which makes no odds in these Do you find that more today than ever, people are asking you questions about Trans gender issues because they are at the forefront now less actually less yeah?
there was a point, at least he was a spokesperson. It was on the and they would yes it will. It's not a spokesperson. I was someone who was going to talk about this right. Tell us all about this, and I do an interview if it was in our interview about forty minutes of the on the on that and then and the Medicaid, to write a thought. Well, I'm just writing all about this transaction all right. Let's, let's put that back of AL and then EAST, to balance it out when they write the interview. But would you rather that they just accept it and just not bring it on fight with it? Now, after the marathon's it'll change yeah, because they said so because I to say action transvestite, an executive transvestite there was, I was in new York- is playing new okay. They said
a guy was found living in one of the caves in the pocket and in New York in the use of time to have a lot of women shoes in that so he's probably a transvestite. I went okay. Well, that's where they're transvestite, I'm not living in a cave having a business files on the planes. This is executive. Transvestite check out with that one. Then the action transvestite was just kind of a fun occurs. Was more kind of Boise about things that I'll give people grief in the streets. If they give me grief, and then after the marathon's it came, became a different thing and everyone just went out. I have had some remember guy This was a very interesting altercation was hardly any words in it. So I'm I live near Victoria Coach station in London most the time whatever and is walking down and then anyways coached as people traveling all over the world over the Europe from that and I walked out- and I was in go by this kind of to me- said it hey. It is a you you, you run all those massive. I knew where
all that club, which over and anyway hey and- and he was just like he was getting me- a policy was going well, okay, okay! Now they have to yeah. Well, I that's what, but MIKE the I mean I didn't have a negative opinion of you, I had a positive opinion of you, but my pot, Have you elevated once I Oh, you do those marathons, like that's a person with an iron. Well, that's a different kind of person like you, it was so huge what you did that everyone had to respect it like. They knew that you can do it or if they could do it, they haven't. You know that that actually does. Yes. I have you accomplished something pretty spectacular: it was beautiful and it and it did about five things at once, and it was raising money yeah. So I think I've read about four and a half million pounds about hours, six million seven million dollars, so that feels great and that's with their help, because the organization is good at raising the money
and it gave me this this this confidence, this back thing back from when I was a kid to be a lot of us were running around how old we we needed that first one was. I was forty seven, so you, forty seven and just decided yeah, I'm off. It was. It was training. I wanted to do something to it, so that venture as well- and you know- I think, I have to live. Life is an adventure, otherwise it life is too hard. But if you look at it eventually, it means that highs and lows built into it an I got this. This health kick out of it at eight was just an and number the and then I could meet people. I member on the first math and I met three army sergeants who at and, and they said, We heard you're doing this this one, the british army, I was just having a bad seminary, hopefully halfway through my my tenth math
It will hurt. We had you doing this and and love, and they would chat to me- and you know, because I know forces and I buy all of that mentality. I'm I'm very happy to chat and something I thought well. This is an interesting respect, things and they said we're trainers. We train, we workout the training regimes for the army, and so we're very interested in what you're doing what you seem to be able to do so They just found it fascinating and I found that fascinating. I could suddenly talk to military service people in a certain way. Sports people in a certain way. It everything just shifted, and and people from different ethnic groups some people of a down on some. I think it was down on being transgender whatever. But if you date that this is okay, we put these two together and you in a different place. Sorry, it has completely change the why I love from Iraq to me yeah. I can only imagine it as it to the comedy fiber, that's fine because they were
exactly yeah, it's just certain different things happen and you can and I like to chat to people. I found that chatting is very important 'cause if you see someone in this blog going make it whatever you get lipstick go to the, but if you say hi nice weather today and they go oh yeah yeah, that's great, and then they go on a different footing is trying to put you into a place of normalcy, yeah. Well, I'm but I say yeah they will they are. They will allow me indicating you they will allow me in okay- and this is normal- it is the talking is done most and an important thing. Just chatting away and being boring. I have a nine during boringness Maybe everyone has a troubling this. I think the really interesting people probably just blow up in the in the twenties and stuff in because they just do stuff it's too far out yeah but most was a pretty boring and then we add layers of interesting this on top see two to reach the
level of okay. I think I'm quite interesting that the government of interesting going on, but my boring this in in chatting I I am charge about whether or would or walls or you know, so that introduces the normalcy yeah. The boring it won't matter, I won't say I won't say we some extreme now I'll, just yeah. I had about yeah normal thing yeah. When you get that jacket. This call the jacket on the on your. It will ever be enough. Just just talk about things, with a b b, human being he and being which is the biggest controversy in America in terms of transgender people, probably the the biggest room, one of the biggest is competing in sports with biological women. That's the biggest one! Yes If you're asking me for answers on that, I haven't already: a minor yeah. I've got for washer, does your call letters recipes which is on the
Urinals, as you call me, call me Ryan, just check them all out and everyone just it's all cubicles and we already do that in restaurants. Will you share stuff at the the the the toilets right? We did an arab planes we have now by the way, if you just remove urinals, At the end, this places is the be carrying off of the women accusing forever and the men and not hearing this way. Everyone shares everyone by his own spas, Posey I've heard of it working in the school as well those less believing in the in the lose. So it's the idea just check is progression of technology. I think it's as get the Euro check out the winner. Everyone is achievable, just go to the loo and then use the mirrors, and and and then go away. It's just everything being for both genders yeah, you just make it all. Even then we get outside a lot of problems. Some people will have push back on that and have other reasons why I don't like it, but women don't want to be in a washroom with men though, but they already are going into. If they're sharing in is an airplane, if the sharing and in yeah, but
airplane is one What's the restaurant person to go in there, I think there concern is there's. You know. Some men are fucking creeps and some women just want to have a place where they could just be themselves and check their makeup and go to the bathroom one wash and talk amongst other way, the stand that it's just I've. You know, if you think about anything, that's going to change anything, there's, usually something that Well, maybe the only reason to do this is to accommodate people who are trans. In a way that it seems like it doesn't. It doesn't put them in position where they they be can be judged because everyone's doing it well, if you it bullying for in schools than it's. Is it a number of things in that that that that it can make easy? it just makes a whole whole area of things a lot easier. Do you think it will stop? How did stop bullying, though I don't know what it has, I'm just giving you the figures of but what if I said well, they just said They tried it in the school and the bullying went down,
his skills and his boys together. It's like boys or bully the boys or girls believe the girls. But if you, if you have 'em all together, they don't it seems so now and then just punish the creeps, which is really I mean if someone is being a creep in a bathroom that the problem is the creep. It's not the bathroom right, yeah yeah, it's anyway. So this is, you know, I haven't scientifically prove this with chemicals and a slide rule or whatever, but it's an idea that gets to a store, better place and surely we're all someone on the spectrum of something. So the idea that uhm, that anyone who is expressing themselves in addition, that is a problem if you take a right, just strike
If we all went back to how we used to think there was just men and women and everyone had straight sex, even that sex with no one would talk about that people in victorian age and write your quiver, victorian age. And now, when we talk about that, that was all horrible, don't sex with procreation was dead. It yeah whole idea of everything. So if you I'm trying to get outta a practical place where people just go to the loo and behave like adults, even the kids seem to behave more like adults, which is interest That makes that makes sense. I see what you're saying yeah me yeah. That is the concern. Right was it. We have a system in place and someone tries to change the system and people get upset the trends and that always happens. Yeah I mean, but also women do q forever and men don't queue at all right, like you much less, but this makes chilies edge makes it queuing even even everyone's lives like an adult yeah, it's just a toilet,
Romans used to have it with open land toilets that I've seen. We have made it into a problem. We have made this a whole psychological brown, as around just sit down there and have a pool and have a chat and once they did make it. Problem and categorize people by gender or then it became this thing. And now you don't want to change that. Well, yeah! I got that thing that yeah I'm they might have had many male female, so is the roman times, but just about they were more open about. Why I did this bodily functions and just normal and we've. You know back in the before we came in and we we were just going into the woods in the forest. And having a pool. It was just having the flu, and now we feel it's a big problem having the people, we don't like in fact we have, but we don't want to admit that we have. The proof: does the queen never have a poop, maybe never Has the attitude that, besides the marathon thing is the attitude culturally shifted in the UK the same way it's shifted in America, where people are more. I think the more more more people out and positive.
You've basically got two from every group. This is that cruises from women. This is from anyone that feels slightly out of the loop. If you can have a pause, any positive role models that go out there, that do other things. You know just something that a sexuality you're very good at cooking on Tele, and for this tends to be television, helps you get sports This is, I want it, those things to say. Well, that is a positive role model and they are of a different color over. This is actually over there. You know and that just helps everyone adjust their minds and the younger man will come through and they all that's all. They know. I know about this person over me. Not you know in baseboard, you see the the bay. The famous doctor which baseball the KEN Burns yeah KEN Burns, won an that black people off the civil war. Black people were playing baseball and there was some guy was very powerful. He said there will be no black people in major leagues at all, and it was blocked from about one thousand. Eight hundred and ninety
like this all the way through to 1950s, so so it was actually happening and then it went backwards yeah. So there was a positive role model and well why over that happened, things can go backwards and things go forward, and I just think you know we're trying to get to a world where everyone's living that live, now, that's really what we need right, just live and let live living as long as you're, not interfering with other people's lives long as you're, not doing something that somehow or another fox with someone else like her. Why would anyone care I mean? I think people care, because they're unhappy with themselves. I think that's the only time, people care and let my My issue with this that I've come across is with athletes it's with Trans. Athletes competing against women, particularly in my field and fighting there's been some there have been at least there. There's one very vocal case went very public case of a
transgender athlete who was a mail for third plus years transitioned over for a couple years for two years and then started fighting women didn't tell them that She used to be a man and it became a giant issue and people were outraged and anger. The women who got it up or angry because they got destroyed two of them did and then she started public about it and started fighting women that were willing and new gotta say things out front yeah. I came out with that longer because I wanted to be up front about things so yeah I don't have the the great on system you know, for I got the house of everything right, but it's yeah. I can see that I think one of the interesting things about it is that there are no real answers that it's one of those things where you just gotta go home. What do we do here- and this is this- is what I think, one of the more unique things about being a person. As that we Have this opportunity to look at this unusual circumstance and communicate about it and try to figure it out,
communication, yes, the whole thing, I just knew it a pass, something if I can't if we started talking about it with get in a better place than not talking rather and this Sansa Meghan, which, when you came out to give you a feeling of relief? Unbelievable, I mean scary, you know, could you go a secret and the secret is, is I did self? analysis I lay on the and said. Why am I thinking this way? What is going on? Why do I get? What are the thoughts like what because when I just wanted, like credit men yeah, so hi, okay, his the clearest Bracken a- am a show. It's there was a woman on television set my door. She was twelve and she was upset. She was wearing my make up she's way, my heels and I told her to get that stuff off. What are you doing sure to her daughter is twelve, and that was a major point of view right. I just thought: well, that's what I'll be doing a twelve, that's what I was doing, my stepmother's clothes and stuff. So I thought well, hang on I'm having exactly same desire
express myself in that way. So I just wanted to express myself in that way and I was told by my society you're not allowed to and it's either so well, you know, as some people are allowed to, and I'm no, I I just I I gave myself information? I said I'm allowed to and it's not hurting anyone else, and I stealing the makeup, and then after that I started buying like it. 'cause the police got me and he got cut go back to the shopping list I think it's a yeah, it's him again with the bloody lipstick. So yeah it's it's? had this desire to express yourself, yeah yep, just like some women do and some of them don't sums. I don't know any make up on a payment. Yeah, yeah and If I had, if I look very female, then I would, I would might way different things express herself in a different way,
but I'm I look kind of more boyish, mall, malay, sh, so hi I have to you know I choose certain close up. Look. Um and I I did that way and the quite a lot of people are sort of going, ok, fair play. That seems, ok and you're looking fairly well put together, that's what I get so when you finally came out the relief, though, did you just be yourself? Yeah just yeah and you did a you- don't tend to look terrific you when you first going to get one that does what with that really is. I was crying. But you've never had that teenage girl chose to be right, exact and have your pick of say you don't worry about okay, so then I gradually ok. How does make it work like that how it works? So you gradually get better at things, don't buy that that color doesn't work, it can work, but if you know so, but the relief is huge You no longer got this hello secret yeah, and then you can begin the dialogue. I haven't, didn't really have a dialogue with anyone that point, but on stage
it's hello to some degree. I have I have friends that are in the closet and they don't know what to do and they in even comedian friends that they don't talk about it thanks at the height it, and then I'm like God, out of just let it go. I mean people in this day and age that people that will accept you, that's the Do you want anyway? The people that don't accept you? You don't want them like that, phone problem. It's this live and let live thing, the people that don't want you to be who you actually are to fit their own narrative in their own head, like that. Those the crazy ones. It's not you, really obvious: there are gay people, it's real obviously transgender people, it's really obvious enough. He was just making this down back through history as well as for ever and also I write. I try. I say there quite often innovative. This is Jay genetic, think I don't I didn't feel like you know when I was two three and a half I said. I think I will
all trans gender not know it was. I was four or five when I first knew and it has not moved those thoughts, that's interesting, so I think it is for most gay lesbian people. I've talked to. I just think it's locked in it's built it's something you get given these cards as I say, and we're trying to be upfront and be positive and the express so it only makes sense when you look at the other, very abilities, the the other variables when it comes to people's personality, their body shape the their mentality, their drive their ambitions all these different variables. It only makes sense it's feminine and masculine variables, and that these shift back and forth with certain people and it's certain people just like there is somewhere in like where you are well. You have boy mode in girl mode, and I would have Imagine that you talking about it openly and then that you're that you're, just so free with it that probably people out there that are listening to this they're like goddamnit. That's me, well, you know, I'm the young, the youngest young,
people around the world. I have met people who are they talking about in school? Actually, I came back from South Africa, my CO writer Kellen Jones, his he said. Can you go in my daughters in class, and we've been talking about your runs in South Africa, so I went and they could talk about racism, because I was running a salute to Mandela, twenty seven after the suit which twenty seven years yet spend in prison, and so they could about racism, but they could also talk about being transgender. And that was self identifying an LGBT stuff 'cause. There was some kid in this in the clouds who's already identifying what identifies a girl, and so they were being positive, and these kids were eight. I think you know so it's way different to our childhood childhood. It would just do not talk about doing actually an if you mention that you're going to get their head kicked in, a group group- and I was will that's why I never mentioned at school, especially you know I fancy girls, so I could just going that route did you run into girls that had an issue with it.
People. I know less so. But if you talk about relationships it gets really tricky because yeah it reflects upon people's rights ships with yourself. So but it's it's cool and I've. Never I've never been great at relationships. That's always true, So well, you know. If I got this career thing, I worked out how I could work that I can just keep staying four steps the game and I'm playing all in all these countries on during the four languages of Dana Sub goal, that guy with than than that? How do you you never really one place to be able? continue to rage of Anya, and is that being transexual on that goes on so that all gets complicated. You come we everything working now, but I'm I'm okay with that, and it's all good. The and I in things
of state, I try to make myself laugh this isn't covered. This is a trick. I should just trying to live, and that's funny some guy go for this. This weird trip- I I'm gonna, tell you this, but this is in the live, show and and but I I talk about J R, R Tolkien October, the imagination we've written all the stories and animals have done that all the while that was don't seem to fit in any stories haven't had very good one of what we've written J R told I say, J are talking, hey are, are are told, him was born, J are are, are, are, are, are, are talking, you may not know this and people's gazes. True I mean it is born in bloom, so Bloemfontein, South Africa, you know so he's gonna and then they moved to Birmingham in England as a different access to be specific next month and then do building. I was little. This is to but that was because this is gonna sound like this and then I said well, it's five. He turns to his mother 'cause he's realizes he's cool.
J are are, are, are, are, are told him and he says it is, but it is south African Birmingham twang and he goes ball of bottled water- will call of photos you're at the act that do the strangulated acts of that is trying to fight between South Africa better and it's such a stupid lie. Time to go, and you know there's no logic to where I'm going and his mother saying. What are you saying? Jrr cards are standard because she's still in south africa- and he says you so I'm spreading time going into the sidebar, which making me laugh. I think a lot of the audits, what as you wish ring about, not really even hear what I'm saying, but I just do the strangulated accident in the end, the essential to the Yorkshire accent to to get his mother to understand. If you could call than the number of hours in his name. He becomes Jay are talking Tolkien, so that's that's typical for my stand up where I just go off on a tangent, to make yourself laugh
yeah and and it's I think, it's it's sort of funny little bit fast for his birdie more funny for me. Well, it's funny for you, though, it's funny for people to listen and what's common is contagious, yeah and and if I'm in at the present stage of a good time, then yeah the to support. We have a better time and this thing of it's not being locked down that is living and breathing in front of them. They do love that and, and- and you put more energy into the next week of that, and then this and then that the other thing yeah. So I do love Stella 'cause, it's you know you can just do it and do it and you know, There's no one! I when I was a double like I was a full person act I mean if he, if you're don't even just a double act. If you go off on a tangent, then you have to look across your panipat is going The way you're going right right want to go with it. You might not want to go with it, get right keep to the script, but on your own you can just go off and Lenny Bruce in the the the the gigs. He did inform the band. You know that thing in the film the pump. Yes and she
The band love- and this is the people of the the rate cuts in the front of the strip is coming up and because, when did the play lanny, we had a live, actual, a jazz band on stage a real good jazz musician, so I was trying to make them laugh and just the way, the landing, and I will try to correct them out, because I would go off script and and the- and I could do this and It was just beautiful and I and they said your roofing out, you're, just riffing lightweight riffing. I thought well. This is where this is. It was really nice to cruise down his life and do stand up. It's close as close to him as I could even the mainstream to either the main moments of stuff and then then, yeah. The really edgy stuff in the weight suffer the where, where Jesus comes at the back and you've got some, it's a pass cathedral that whole sequence. Where he's got the call about color pokes Jesus is here and yeah that was fun yeah
got very ill doing it. How well you started off dead, naked and then you've got you put your clothes on your talking and start going back Oh, so the play starts off dead yeah. You start off dead by so when killed himself in the bathroom, yeah yeah and then, as you start and you're talking to either God or nothing, I'm talking to a judge who is a bit like a god at the beginning of it and explaining things as I'm putting my clothes on, so you start off naked. Then you have simulated sex with my wife, but quarter weigh. Through the film, so that was interesting doing that and then you end up dying at the end of the film, so it just it took a lot out of me three months of that yeah. So emotionally and yeah mostly, and then you and then you fizzle and I've never been able to flee out of a shop at that age. It just took me down. I just was not well enough, see see I was just contemplating his existence, his life and what he went through. I think I think it was uh. Yeah
part of his Jenny, and also it was physically, very grueling. It is mentally Ann. Really quite very immensely, really grueling it together that that that they made out house knack of the poor, just wasn't drink enough water. I should of era. I tend to think exorcism. My meat rate. Definitely that I will just carry on until I get ill. I wouldn't necessarily think. Ok you going into a stress period now. So let's get some good war through his eat, some healthy food and so that nothing comes in and takes you out, Because of all those your way through yeah, I tend to build. We just bulldoze through three hours, yeah three, because it's a lot less yeah. I was thinking. I'd, have no idea how long the crazy and. It's like a time warp in here with a Yo Yo, YO yo good that you're used to hi. I once did a street show for about two hours without stopping, which is quite a beautiful because on the street, is that if you mention it does knows nothing at and professed, was you know
and there's this place called the mounds there's people milling around. So I was almost starting a show. I was just making about for two hours. I was just there kind of not starting kind of starting kind of chatting kind of playing around God beautiful. It's I've done the most fun things on the street, 'cause, no ones in charge of anything, there's just no wrong Yeah, I I'll do that Dave Chappelle did that, in Montreal we were doing this club soda and he came downstairs after we did. I think he was like eighteen or nineteen and just took his hat off and started doing stand up and have people put money in the hat students on the street that is pretty wild, pretty free, as you see in Washington Square parties, do that yeah. Yeah yeah, that's some Charlie Burnett was famous for that Charlie Burnett. There's a guy who was one of the original ST stand up comics in New York, and he would do that in Washington Square Park and gathered round, there's video of it to people could watch online. He said I think he went. He might have come over to England at one point: did he I think he might have? He was brilliant
brilliant performer, really good at grabbing people and grabbing their tension and Dave learned a lot from him. Eddie you very much bye thanks a lot of fun. I really enjoyed it. I really appreciate you coming here, one that we got a chance to sit down and tell people about your tour where they can find where you're going to be tickets. All the chevy is a dot com that swear it's happening, and I am next two and a half months all the way up to MID July, I'm around so at forty cities for utilities, all America yeah. Well, I've already played all fifty states which is kind of beautiful. He played my. Hannah I played everywhere. You go Montana I'm not sure. What's the capital city billings, I think yeah, I think we pay. Billings, if not healing they Bozeman alone. I've Helena is that it yeah what about Wyoming, you did while yeah all of them. Alas, I'm yeah, I made a point to ask, twice wow Is it in Hawaii, but everything will include Mississippi and Alabama as well. That's awesome!
so everywhere, but it's it's nice. It's I just love playing. You know I just love playing around the world onward down good luck to you, thank you. I appreciate you. Thank you. Hello. I hope you enjoyed that. I enjoy, shut out of it he's. I want to say he, but am I supposed to. I didn't: ask that He calls himself Eddie still, so I guess it's still. He This girl's, name, Eddie, I'm thinking eighty Brickell What I am is what I am remember that anyway, fockers Thank you to our sponsors. Thank you to athletic greens. You can get on track and get your health in order. Get you nutrition online fuckers with athletic greens, and you can get twenty free travel packs, valued at seventy nine dollars. With your first purchas athletic green, Dot com Rogan go there and claim that special offer. Twenty free travel packs value
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