Steve Aoki is a musician, author, DJ, record producer and music executive. His new book called "Blue: The Color of Noise" is available now.
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Steve Aoki Joe Rogan experience my day, job clothe, that's that's the most recent. That's those guy plans to sell Fong Tran. He creates all these hand paints each one yeah he sculpt it, and then he makes like a mold and he's got a bunch of dope ones. It's all on his line and you kind of book bro. I d'oh color that noise blue the color noise. What's this about no more, it's talks about the beginnings goes through. My process goes through a lot of different things. I mean the other day. I spend more so
it's more about it's less about, what's happening now and more about like how I I got there, you know the story in different, piecemeal stories that that are thematic in you know with this overarching idea of blue, which is like different shades of blue of my life. It's my favorite color, and I said my last name is me: is blue tree really yeah yeah? So it's like there's a lot of synergy with the color. So when I I was coming up with the idea to name the book, you know I had to think of like you know something that relates throughout my whole life, so there's so many different shades emotions, feelings that are represented in all these different stories. Have you always been a writer like yeah? I guess like a piece meal right. Are you know I need help finishing this book? There's no, but I had so much it's like you know, because I just
like you know of the pen and paper still you know like. I grew up before before compute and all stuff I was when I was writing late for my bands. I was always like, like a notepad, so I had just sold different stories. I didn't know how to put it all together. I started the inception of writing. You know the these different stories of my life six years ago and then I shot a documentary for Netflix and uh. We dropped it called it's called I'll sleep when I'm dead. We dropped it three years ago, four years ago for fifteen two thousand and two sixteen thank and I and I after I saw the reception I and and how people responded to the dock. Then I knew that like enough, this is really gonna take shape. This is gonna, be front, centers finishing and and writing the upper
the more so with the idea of writing. A memoir is only the idea of writing and writing about yourself is only to write this. No more. You saw like you, you write on a regular basis. Well, I'm not a I'm. You know like I am actually with some new ideas for the next. You know exception of what I would put out there in book form, because it's ah different process for me. That's quite exciting, just like the challenge to do something like this, because I'm my natural way to express myself is through music and um, and I love being able to step outside my comfort zones. I think at the end of day, when you do that enough, you just you just get better as a human being, yes and try. You know if you always do the same thing over and over again you never really learning. So it's it's. It's been like a great learning process. You know putting out this memoir
and and like actually opening up this vulnerable side. To who I am that I don't necessarily. I don't talk really for people that know me, like my fans, are my music fans or anyone else said no Stevie? Ok, they don't really know what's in this book. You know they might have a glimpse of it. For my documentary, which I did because I I talk really deeply about my relationship with my father and and like this drive that I have as a kid to make it and- and it shows you enough words. Okay, now I have a little bit more than my live shows and what's already out there, but this goes. You know obviously a lot deeper, because it's a book going through the motions in the vulnerability and- and I I want to tell stories of the hardship and, at the end of day, want to speak to young kids out there to people out there, even older people that are trying to figure that their own thing out and and because
the documentary related is so many ways on the personal level that I shared level. This is how I wanted to share that through my own words, do you find that writing these things down and just thinking about your life and and and trying to express it in a way? That's gonna resonate with people that this had been helps you think about it and helps you sort of a categorized and put all in your head. In. Did you know anyone to know this yeah yeah famous chef, yeah, yeah, yeah yeah, his friend of mine, great guy, in all rights every day- and I am someone like why why you writing is he's written books, but he's he writes to sort of collect his own thoughts. Yes, the one hundred percent, it's like once. You that's the trigger for me because, even when I read right right after like what I gained from it almost like it's, like my note, my homework for retention on what I gather take away from what I'm reading, I'm all
ways like reading and writing or writing a scribbling in my in my book or or like writing off the side and a note powder like now like you know, like a tablet something, but I was like you need to gather your your your head space. So you have retention, yeah, you're right. I understand right, yeah and in the right to express it so that other people can understand yeah and in that process you can understand yourself better right and that's that's how sort of eighty described in when he sent it to males. I cut them out right enough liked. I write more comedy stuff. I try to write material and essays on things, simple, jokes out of him right but, like I say, there's probably a great benefit for anybody to just sort of right about your thoughts, your diary. That kind of thing you know I mean there's something to that, because in that time I mean you could speak to this you've written a book on yourself, but in that time of writing about yourself and reflecting upon your life, you probably learn a little bit about who you are and why
you're the way you are yeah- and you know thinking about this- I never really thought about it to this point or found the parallel here when I started seeing a therapist to go into my past and try to break down what like, why make the decisions? I do are like why I vital out here or do something that I am not comfortable with it. I want to change a lot of that. I'm able like after the sessions I go and start writing no, and then a lot of that you know eventually makes in the book. Do you run long Hannity right on keyboard? I I would do both all right now I do both the like. I have scribbles of stuff everywhere. You know, but then I met is like in the end the day for organizational purposes. It's it's just got to go and like Kelly put in the computer, yeah Elle, yet yeah it. This is a very. This is my own therapy. You know I, as you could says, like it, is putting all these stories and these
memories and the feelings and the emotions and the the might be. You know it's it's like it. I think the hardest part is like picking the right ones in on in the day when you've put all this stuff together, and you spend so much time on this. Do you I find that the process of that in any way enhances your music? Yes, it does because I mean when I think about. First of all, I think about the process of making music, I think about it, similar to what you're doing when you're, when you're right for your comedy skits and you're efficient you like okay, this is going to work because I'm gonna be able to share this way, and I just run your thoughts down so like when I'm in the studio, I'm very efficient. You know I'm like I'm going and going to I'm going to make a club banger just for the festival, so the crowds go crazy and it's less about the emotional message. You know what, with this being able to talk about that side, that's.
That as the other layer that that I am seeing now more than ever in the last like three four years when I started making songs with lyrics that, actually you know what you know: I've seen the hands come out in droves, saying how much it's gotten then gotten in through hard times, because the lyrics were able to speak to them a certain way. So it's and that's the essence of collaboration at the end of day, you know working with songwriters and singers and and being able to be pulling that direction is incredible as an artist you know, instead of just having like all right, we're making this record to make everyone go crazy, even though, essentially electronic dance music is all about the music yeah. It's not about you know the touching lyrics they might be like the flavoring on top, but the the foundation is all about the beat you know, but now it's like about mixing both worlds as much as possible. You know,
what's at the end of the day when you think about my shows, it's a very full on experience like when I, when I put on a show, I'm trying to like I'm trying to come compound all the senses. You know I want to be entertaining as hell. I want it to be fun, engaging you to leave, knowing that you saw Steve Aoki show. So that's why I try to do different, unique things like you know. I cake people, I don't know if you know this placate people at my shows, take them like you hit them in the head with cakes yeah, I would say the head but yeah, but this is all can see by the way so I'll give you a little story this. So you know think, as you are on the stage all the time you want to make your it's. Do you want to make your everything that you do unique to Joe Rogan? You know like you, don't want to be, like oh yeah he's a copy of this person. No one wants to be that you know so. I'm thinking like what am I going to do is going to be unique and different engaging hey.
You know, I guess I was doing that everyone sit down number one job, so you know on, like you know your brain always thinking. So I got an idea after a song that I really saw. My label have my own label and we release this artist, where the video was cakes exploding in people's faces ocean, hi, Def, really beautiful, and then- and I was like you know what I'm going to go to a bakery, I'm by cake scribble, like the song on the top of the cake and let's just see what happens, it'll be funny little thing. You know, and I brought the kisses two thousand and eleven mind you so this seven years or however long ago, that was a long time ago, do math anyway. So it was a long time ago and I walked around the front of stage and one that won the kids in the front. One of the guys that front was it's like. Why is he walking around the front like? Am I supposed to like grab it and then he just starts pointing at his face and then all his friends are items are pointing at him and the
whole place was just staring and wait and watching and wondering what the hell's going to happen. So I kicked him. We filmed it before this is Pre Instagram put up on Youtube. I gotta do this ever show. This is incredible, and then six months later, people started coming out with cake me signs six years later. Ok, here we go so six was later like. If I think I've kicked over fifteen thousand people now you know, oh my god, look at cool crazy. You had a right in the mug to do perfect, shot. I'll, tell you I mean you know it's just practice makes perfect. You know you've thrown fifteen thousand cakes. I get you get. You get a feel for look at her she's dancing yeah. I put it up, we'll see more time. This is like that was Ultram. Oh, my goodness, we have a key. Don't we have very specific cakes? Are you know at our show? You have. A system is like a special Aoki cake. What is in it, this
range thing is there is there is like not as much cake as you would think. It's just like frosting, it's just so, which is explodes everywhere. So it's less bread, yes, just so like less carbs more sugar. Well, if your diabetic just get out of the front roll, please let it crazy thing for people to enjoy to get kicked in the face. I was having a good fucking time. That's the that's! The most important thing at the end of days like that shows, take me with a bull's eye. Okay. This is very normal for me to see. You know, like some cases, there's like fifty fifty people with signs up signs crazy. Look at that cake face one of the Wanna watch, my face. It's just a it's a signature, part of the show, it's fun, it's exciting
did. I need to go to one of your shows, because that everybody that I know that's been says it's a wild experiences, not just music. It's just this something it your view, doing something transformative. You know that do will come out of there that just like they're buzzing yeah, that's the goal, you know and if I, if I feel like I'm doing that, if I feel like I'm really having this impact, then I go did not that's. Why end up doing like so many shows on average I'm doing about one hundred and fifty shows around the world every year. That is so crazy and I do this. I've done this can assistant Lee for over twelve years. So it's it's. It's not like, or is it just drops an album and then they too are like around the world for a year to like I'm on I'm on a worldwide tour. You know every every single year. Is that sustainable?
How how's your body holding up? I don't work out a lot yeah you really in health and wellness and all that stuff, but that seems insane critical with all the travel it does. I mean you have to you have to like to yourself at like an athlete. That's for sure. The way I think about my regiment is different. You know, and I and I'm like obsessed with of trying out new ideas using myself as a guinea pig to work with different scientists, sleep doctors, you know different people in various fields that are testing you, ideas to like dealing jet lag or things that I am dealing with their on the road that can wear you down and make it not sustainable. Do you do ivs, like stem cell? No, no, like vitamin vitamins or anything like that, not as no. I don't, but.
You know like at one point I was: I wasn't down the same road is Ray Kurzweil doing two hundred and fifty vitamins a day, but I was probably you know experimenting with about fifty. Have you met him? I have is an interesting dude. Yes, he has is quite a trip behind his eyes. There's a lot going on the absolute early and ah, why am I so like? I have a whole album serious called neon future, so I have neon future twelve and three that just came out my out my albums and each album. I actually work with a scientist on a song. Oh so I'd records will on on one so he's talking on a song about, like life extension, life extension on big, singular, not and assisting very, not, but like a big fan of the idea that we can live indefinitely. I love about enthusiast of that world. I'm I'm not, I'm not, definitely not an expert, but I'm enthusiasts for sure yeah and I got Jj Abrams on two like uh gray on to I don't have a managing a five miles. Well, yeah yeah
and, like I interviewed him I went to I want to raise Ray Kurzweil's apartment in the Bay area. I mean, I know that we have less energies on the science and tech stuff three at Bill Nye and for which is the out next year. I'm having my favorite author on the album that I've read so far, so I'm very I might. I might as well announce it here. If I'm going to announce it anywhere, I haven't, announced it yet, but you've all hurry wow. I love that guy yeah sapiens is amazing. Yeah save you have a favorite book, I'm on the second one right now, yeah just finish up with listen, and I mean he has a very like see, I think, of the future very positively future yeah. He doesn't think of it, so rosy yeah, but you know I like I like his his analysis, and you know the
he's trying to understand how we've evolved or pushed out outwards and agree with a lot of what he's saying my what a lot of what is seen as a refusal, but what's interesting, is the way he sort of coalesces it the way it combines at all, and you you really get a sense of wow that this is what a person as this is how it all went down. You know he's a brilliant guy, too. I've seen him interviewed fairly fascinating character,. Yeah Aubrey degrees, a trippy do too because he drinks so much. I know I've hung out with and like a pint after pint. I'm like hey man. Are you supposed to be the Fucking Wellness, Longevity God yeah he's so in in trench in science that he thinks that the solutions are going to come through the laboratory, right, he'd he'd I mean he doesn't seem to exercise with. Does I think just rose a boat? Have you seen that, like he like rose boats around
the harbor where every lives in England and um drinks? I think it's in his beard, though the boot is beard, the beard beard is, is like magical wizardry, wizardry. Actually us again signs, but he's a very interesting guy. He just have a foam pit in my house. He jumped my phone pit watching fifty year old man with a beard who is blows, nipples jump into a foam pit. It's actually pretty cool. Is Google a scientist as well. You know, just like you know, those coolers want to be silly. Yeah yeah exactly you know like, and I have a you know, a Oki foundation from wearing some assess. What the human brain so all of our money that we raise goes to brain research, organizations, brain science, eggs and, ah, but also like Oryx, that deal with anti aging or anything. That's interesting that relates to um. You know living longer, healthier lives and one of which is a sense work
which is always org. Have you ever heard? You know who David Sinclair's remind me, he's a Harvard professor he's on the podcast next week he's been on before, but he is at the front of the line of anti aging technology in the podcast. I did with him credible he's a brilliant, brilliant guy dealing with things like and a man, and you know, and and a d and all these different, it dripping fusions and concoctions and molecule all set lengthen telomeres enhance the you know, the the the body's ability to regenerate and h much slower, really really interesting stuff, although I mean I love that stuff yeah yeah. So how did you get in this? Because you are thinking about your own mind, or is this just something you've always been fascinated by? I think of it. It started one after my for my father passed away, seeing
the death of your father. He died of ah cancer, but it started with Hepatitis C from boat accident. He had in like the late seventies. The boat accident gave him HEP C blood transfusion, oh and then he I mean he was surviving with HEP C for decades changed his his um interfere on and the things that will keep him going before. There's a vaccine or cure this is all before then um, I'm not sure there is, but I'm almost positive, but I think there is yeah very expensive involved process, but that that hurts you know what I mean. It's like Brian, going dies close to you and then like something like that happens that so so this is all happening right and I see him dying. I'm also like you know.
I know about health, I'm vegetarian! You know this down the other, I'm like sort of healthy, but after I saw him die. I read books on cancer. I sort of reading like trying to research like what could I have done to you help my father and I still have people on my left. The absolutely love that I wanted learn and share. Like my mother, like you know anyone else, that's like close to me, that's getting older and then it just I just I just went on this site bender like you know, reading books on anti aging and then you know I'm really big Sci FI. So if anything, I love living between the world of science fiction and science fact and finding out in that area. What is going to be science fact in our you know in our as long as I'm alive, you know there's a lot of things for because I do agree with that that that curve
that we are not moving at a linear rate, you know we're moving. I don't know if it's exponential, but it's definitely between linear and exponential, with technology, with learning science and medicine as I'm learning more about this stuff, my music career also raising my platform as a personality is also getting raised. So then, now I get to go and make a phone call the ray and he'll answer. I could get to meet him and and then I to have fun to I'm like let's make a song. Let's do a video, let's do an interview, so I created this whole young future session. So I can meet. You know. Stanley rest in peace like I to meet him hang out with them to interview with them, took some photos. Anley Stanley Marvel Marvel who's Stanley Marvel Stan Stanley, the marble called Stanley. Ok, I'm just going across the board, Marvel who Stan Lee Marvel, but you know, like I, just went across the board of all the people outside of my music space that I can talk to science. People science
can people I'm still like, whoever might be even authors of books. I've read like Richard Dawkins, I food LA for university and I sat with him. Oh that's great and I talked to him and he was like. I don't know why I'm here with you, but one told me I should be you know anything. I'm going to get the same response he's supposed to be coming on next month and talk to him yeah it's like did you talk to him after a stroke? No, this was. I remember him riding his bike to interview which is kind of well the signature Richard Dawkins, his bike felt like Albert Same, was coming at me or something you know, 'cause he's kind of like that kind of like here's, a lower with him yeah he does, but Della two thousand and fifteen. Sixteen, I think so does sounds like around when he had his stroke. I mean I actually wouldn't find out when he had a stroke he's covered very well, though apparently he still has some Resig
will issues, oh wow, so this is definitely pre stroke. Two thousand and sixteen this is PRI store. The crazy thing is, I did all these interviews with all these different people didn't didn't actually post them up online. Why we did too with wired magazine, we did the one with Ray Kerswell in with Stanley, and I had like the rest lined up to you know like sent them the right way and go well. It's actually. Your your great on the internet, Jim is the best of school. Is that in his office? No we got Oxford University gave us this room. As you know- and I took it over- that's awesome with them. Do you, when you talk to Kerr's? While did you get into his idea
of being able to download consciousness? No, we didn't get that far, but I would love the love for you to tell me more about it's a weird one, because we went to this. I I think it's called the twenty forty five conference in New York City and the idea of being find. It is that they think that somewhere around two thousand and forty five there's gonna be some sort of a technological singularity with the exponential growth or perceived exponential growth, whatever it is, the leaping the new innovation, the crew, getting these new possibilities that somewhere around twenty five, two thousand and forty five there's going to be so many changes, and so many new innovations that they believe they're going to be able to put your consciousness either into some sort of a hard drive space for a quantum computer or perhaps even up a physical and body may of a Steve. Aoki like I have an artificial, Steve Aoki like a sleeve yeah and then you're caught your
actual brain inside this thing. So as your body dies now you will exist in this. Whatever the fuck it's made out of right, and he he's going to be able to do that. You know he's got a really bizarre motivation to his father died when he was young and he didn't really get to know him that well, and he has all these images and- and he thinks that he is going to be able to in some way shape or form, recreate his father and have some sort of ah. A reasonable facsimile, some sort of a reality way to communicate with his dad well yeah actually have is, with all the members of the house of his father, all the the video and images and actually recreate his father to have a communication with them is very weird stuff yeah. What I mean, I think, a lot of these those those story lines get drawn out and and Sci FI. Yes, because that's essentially where we want like we want to without any issues and problems and backfire,
and no like black, Mirror episode. You know kind of blender, because I mean it we we are definitely going in that we're going somewhere, weird for sure one hundred percent going there and there's no stopping it. No way these can't be average buying new phones and new technology, we're pushing it as far as we can. There was a guy. I think it's from the university Connecticut. He is the pre eminent researcher on time travel and he is right out of a fucking spider man comic Book, his dad died when he was young same source situation and he wanted to figure out a way to go back in time and save his dad so he's literally trying to come up with a workable theory for time travel. That's that's the gentleman. What is his name, Dr Ron, Mallett yeah, Dr
Ron Mallet, and it's right now I mean he's, got a working theory, but it becomes a matter of having enough energy to actually pull this off. But the idea behind it was all inspired by his father dying and he thinks he's going to be able to or someone may be able to go back in time. But what will your stories like this right? When you hear the story? Cuz, I know you dislike. This is like what you doing you going to talk to people. Do you believe them a certain extent? And then you like you, go because for me I need scientific understanding. You know scientific, not too much into the paranormal. I need to like understand to to see if this actually is conclusive. I think found out something unfortunate in that the idea is far time travel as we know it will only exist from the time the time machine is invented forward and backward to that moment, the idea is like Terence Mckenna describe.
Is it the idea that you cannot travel where there are no roads, and so once a road is established, then things get really fucked up, because if you create a time machine in terms of what they understand or what Doctor Mallett believes about time travel now, I hope I'm not butchering, I'm sure I'm butchering, I hope not too bad can only travel back to the moment. The first time machine is invented so once that door is opened, then time ceases to become linear anything from the end of time till the invention. The time machine happens all at once, because anyone can come back to that moment because a time machine exist. Now it's made so, of course, going to innovate. Anyone in the future is going to innovate. These people to do innovative gonna, have a much much superior version of this time machine and everyone is going to be able to go back to the moment that the time she's invented in
any point along the way, from the end of time, to the beginning of time, from the moment that time machine is invented. So in that case, if that really is the case, has a time machine invented, I don't think it has why well I'm I could be wrong the bullet. What's your like, I think everyone's going to be completely gone, so you can have people appearing and disappearing and and showing up going and it's a normal thing. It's like oh yeah, he's traveling through time. It's just not only that, like all events, save there's a world world live, but if he was a world war five hundred years from Now- and you will like fuck this, I'm going back in time, one hundred years before World WAR, five and I'm just going to live there, and they do they decide to do that or world WAR three or world war. Four. They just keep going back in time and forward in time you could go if you had a time machine time. Machine was again I'm butchering this, I'm a moron, I'm not a scientist. If you had a time machine and time machines
existed from now until you know the perceivable end of the lifespan of the earth right when the sun, supernovas and there's no more life left on earth, you could kind of go anywhere. You want from now to a million years from now, as long as there's a place go right as long as there's a time machine available, and the idea is that, I'm as we know it will cease to exist, because our time now is dependent on you know. Our biological entities waking up moving forward. What time is? Well, it's three of my meetings at five: better hurry hurry over to downtown traffics rough. This time of day. All that stuff is going to be nonsense. If there's time machines because you're going to be able to move anywhere, you want at any point in time sounds ridiculous, but so does the internet? Have you brought the internet up to some guy who lived in victorian times and say, look at this. This is my phone and you can ask it a question: will give you all the answers anything you want. That would be the most astounding form of witchcraft ever invented. Now, my
eleven year old daughter has one of those yeah. You know I mean she. She asset think questions all the time she gets answers to stuff. All the time we used to have to go to a library form should watch videos, that's come out of the air yeah, that's magic yeah in, but it's we're accustomed to it. We write we adapt very exactly so. The idea is that what this would do is change every asp, the reality as we know it in terms of like linear time, it would no longer exist, but would would only those people that know how to use a machine have access to it. Well, I mean, wouldn't it be like cell phones. Eventually, everybody gets one and we're talking about time right. So if everybody gets access to it a year from now or three years from now, it doesn't matter because it time machine is already been invented, so they could travel back to that moment and forward from that moment. So the moment they turn that fucker on everything goes haywire.
So let's not turn that thing on. Oh, it's weird and it's inevitable. People press got yeah. Well, they want to see if they can even make that happen. I used to have a bit that I should do about the big bang because they were everyone's always try to figure out like what was the universe like before the Big Bang like what what happened. How was it created and when you look get the progress of technology? My thought was that if you look at where we're going and we're constantly innovating and people are constantly coming up with new and more impressive forms of technology, that one day we're going to create a big bang machine and that this is what happens, the every five five billion years, or so things get so intelligent. They develop a big bag machine and they sit around. These dudes are on red, Bull, Poland, Xanax and simulation, and one guy goes I'll, fucking press it it and hits the button and
boom the whole universe starts all over again and if you had a big bang machine- and you knew that if you pressed it within five billion years, humans would create another big bang machine. This is an endless cycle. Would you press it talking for sure, there's someone that would press that button. There is one hundred percent a person out there that would press that button. Now I I heard more about the simulation idea. Well, that's another in that's another idea, but that's a beeline believes that he believes that it's very possible like one of the things they said. If you could ask ai what what would you ask you said what's beyond the simulation like he believes this is simulation, but if you're Elon Musk, of course, You'D- believe it's a simulation people, let you drill tunnels under la and shoot rockets off into space and you're, making electric cars solar roof panels. I mean he's he's literally living like some character in the movies like professor x, or something
if you're the simulations on the you do about it right. So just might as well just do what we do it all. So it's a great way to think about life right. If you, what is a simulation? If everything is a simulation, it's still life right, like eggs. Distance is still everything your cuss, some two and everything you experience and if it is a simulation at least some aspects of this are are comfortably or comforting. Lee, like obvious, like work hard, you can get better things right can be you know, being nice to people they're nice to you, you like be be a good friend. You get good friends eat healthy food, you're, healthier, there's, there's like some comfort to the lack of there's, there's, certainly some variables that are very difficult to account for,
but there's also there's a surprising amount of life. That's pretty straightforward! So if it is a simulation, it's not the most difficult one to follow. It's pretty crazy and chaotic, but there's there's a lot of comfort in it. Like a cz, much as we try to dwell on the horrors of humanity and certainly a lot of them to disguise a lot of beauty in people too, and there's a lot of cool shit and people yeah, I mean when you focus on that, then then there's real growth at the comedy store last night till like two hundred o'clock in the morning in this comedians bar just hang out with all these comedians were just laughing and talking- and this is no no audience just a bunch of people that get paid to make. People laugh on. Jon Stewart was back there, Michelle Wolf and all these really funny comics, where I'll, just
and having a great time in talking and was like wow. This is so nice real. Well, it's so fun. It's rewarding! It's like this cool things in this life yeah. You can find good people and friends and and communicate and and and spread the love of and have interesting, fascinating thought provoking conversations, there's a lot of really positive things. So this is a simulation. It's pretty bad task simulation for Steve, Aoki, Bedford, Joe Rogan, throughout their kind of people and shit, you know making a brain foundation. I mean what a fucking great simulation urine. Absolutely, I think yeah, it's like you can make what you want of it. It's not. It might not be the dream, like the lawn musk
scenario right away, but it takes time to get there, but you don't want that dream. I don't want his dream yeah, exactly his dreams, crazy! Well, I mean his dream of, like I mean, like you said, he's just like almost the superhero is Bruce Wayne. You know doing whatever you know, he's he's iron man, you know. Well, you know some. Some cars have small engines right. There's Honda Civics out there and then there's a fucking rocket cars he's got some sort of crazy Quantum rocket car engine for a brain yeah. If you talk to him, no, I haven't he's a trip he's actually on the on the list of people. I would love to be in the studio with the make music with and you know just get into his mind of it. I've been putting that out there to the
the universe he's one of those guys when you're talking to him. You have this feeling that is running code in the background, and why is talking to it? I think it just gets bored with like regular mundane conversations and he's got fifty million things going on constantly and he's also talking about it to me about how difficult it is to manage his mind. Like you wouldn't want to be me, he thought he was crazy when he was younger cousin, like so much was bouncing around in his head, and he realized that other people weren't like that, and it's like. Oh no, I'm alone, like literally's, probably along with the fuck, is like that guy in terms of like a public intellectual who's responsible for so many ground breaking technologies. Number one electric car in the World space sex tunneling under LA with boring company, makes fucking keys. Are crazy man fat
thank Qadis around though yeah. I know people like that is so cool to have like a true out liar. Someone is just really out there at the end of Manny's, Kansi attacked and maligned and people are misrepresenting him, and you know people like all the crabs in a bucket. Don't like it yeah a poem down, yeah god. Damn smart always feel the fancy themselves. Smart. You meet that guy. I like okay, this levels this game. Now he is he's like it by the top of my list. Just so you know I'll be in his presence, but I I think, would be very exciting to try to do a song with Elon musk I'll. Ask him. Well, after the podcast design with text messages is probably busy. Yeah legacy is possible, just go to Spacex or tests or whatever yeah. So would you in particular you doing with this brain foundation? I mean, I think, one of most important things. Things inspire people more about brain. The brain you know like
we obviously is to raise money for brain research, works for one finding cures for degenerative, brain diseases and two understanding the brain more working with orcs that one understand the brain more so that we can expand what our limitations are. You know in the conversation that we're talking about, you know, bring some of the science fiction and science fact. I love this idea that, like you, know telekinesis when you can move things with your mind, able it already is really not like in the supernatural like magneto. Let you know of it's like you know, there's I mean top like five years ago, people moving wheelchairs with their with, like God, implanted thing, lasted yeah, exactly I'm not sure that the right terms, but I've seen the videos. You know like a monkey being able to move a KN arm to its mouth to eat the apple yeah. Those were happy. Does that happen like two thousand and thirteen or fourteen or fact check that, but it was not
two thousand and nineteen. It was like years ago, so, whatever they're doing at DARPA, they're doing it like Google, what whoever's got these research orgs in labs I wanted. I would love to jump in there and just like put my ear there and just listen and find out what's going on, and you know, because I have my own interest and passion. What's what the breakthroughs are now would also love to try some of these things. Do you think they? Let you sometimes I mean? Listen you gotta, try! This is Boston. Dynamics might be your best bet, the the robot people they might. Let you in DARPA's dark jacket, won't let me- and obviously it will not. Let me in you have to sign some paperwork, but I want get in too as many doors as I can on any of this kind of stuff, and that's like my own personal for gain, but also with the with the brain or get just the brain foundation. It's just that, like you, know,
help out this smaller orgs to that are that are one find the cures, because at the end day, what I've learned is that if you don't die of cancer or heart disease, you're going to have a brain disease you're going to crazy you're gonna gonna lose your memory unit deteriorate yeah, and you know you, you know years down the line, we're going to be able to literally turn our body into like a used car and change all the parts know. But you know, if you start losing your memory, then you start losing. Who you are? Did you talk to kerswell about those? Yes, it was years ago. So I'm trying to remember even like the interview that we did, but I do know. I went in deep on a lot of the anti aging stuff and you know I
inc. The struggle that he's gonna have is, if he's gonna, make it to two thousand and forty five, because he's seventy or something right, yeah. That's what and he has a heart um. He has a genetic defect with his heart, so um, but e and he's just like one of those like those heroes of mine that was lucky to be is space. You know playing on his will keyboard and he invented yeah. The synthesizer that was, that was a we're both in this is each to tax. To the name. Yeah, I think I mean he's. He's invented, live more than a hundred really significant inventions, yeah fascinating guy. Absolutely no! But can we squeeze twenty five more years out of them? Yeah yeah is biological life to get
two thousand and forty five, because if he's gonna, like he's gonna, be the one that's going to really push that envelope. Part I think he's. If there's anyone out there, that's what I'm you know. It's it's clearly obvious. Why Google picked him up. You know you know and had him like head the whole. I forgot what the department's called, but you know. Well, I didn't Google by Boston Dynamics as well. They bought a robot company. I know that which is like what do you guys planning you control everybody's email? You have the number one search engine on the planet earth. You have. No one browser like what do you guys doing what you doing over there yeah you make robots you, but don't you want to be in the room? Yeah. You want to be in the room, but you know some of their choices are a little bit questionable.
There's so much there's their science, but then there's so much. There is a social decisions. You know that they're making in terms of like what people get to see and talk about in here and a lot of is based on the site. Geis is based on the in on the current state of politically correct ideology. What you can and can't say or can and can't do, and that becomes really dangerous, because your controlling information, your throttling information, like you know, Tulsi Gabbard, is suing Google for what is like fifty million dollars or something crazy like that. They say that they purposely stifled her search engine results so that people wouldn't be able to find her as easily and they've she's, apparently proven it. Well it. So it's not a pure in from
nation based company, there's ideology behind it. There's motivations behind it that you know politically leaning, motivations right now, so I don't know when you close to that when it goes into that world on like or you forget you forget about that- sometimes like I want, would be in the right through rooms. Well, there was internal memo that were there referring to Ben Shapiro and someone else. I think it was Jordan, Peterson and maybe Dennis Prager as Nazis, which is hilarious because both Ben Shapiro and Dennis Prager, both jewish. So it's like their their perception of who a person is. This was brought up thistles brought up by um um people in Congress like they had to have hearings on it, trying to figure out what is Google doing like? What are you allowed to? How you allowed to define people internally in your memory memos and then, of course, we
she calls me a then you can act as if they're, a in need and yell stifle any sort of search on them or stifled results sword. You know, yeah point point people in the direction that you think would be better for humanity, verses, just pure information and guess who gets very weird. You know, but as a technology company look at their amazing, which is what they're doing with Android in Google searching in Google assistant in the Google MAPS is by far the most the superior room map application on the planet earth it's constantly getting better counseling gathering up you in, for I mean part of me, loves the fact that they exist, and part of me is like that is too much power as too much power for one one company to be able to influence people one way or the other. So what's what's your what's Joe Rogan solution is something like that
regulations no mom too stupid. For this thing, I need to rely on people that have actually spent real time, studying the effects and understand it from a very deep level. I don't I understand it that it's. I understand that it's problematic. I just don't understand what the solution is, and I don't know if it's even it's just a free distribution of information across the board, because then, what do you do about actual nazis like if you find that there's a new Hitler arises and he really does want exterminate the Jews? What happens you just allow that, guy to be on Google, Easy Google hangouts with little Nazi, hang out there planning on exterminate and where the right and what is the next Auschwitz you know now. I don't think that that shouldn't be the case. So what is the case? Do you allow
white supremacists on there to organize rallies, Fark com? Where, where does freedom of speech end in right? Now, it's very complicated questions. Us were all learning to now right, yeah. I think in many ways- and this is a weird thought that I have- and I repeated over and over again, but I think technology is going to provide us with a new way of communicating, that's not dependent upon language, but rather can read actual intent like an actual mind reading technology and when I, when I see Ellen some neural link, this thing that trying to do with their opening up the band with two humans and information through use of implants and some sort of a bluetooth, wearable device like that. I think, is like a step in that direction
and I think Ellen and you know many injuries. He said that he thinks that human beings are the organic biological boot loader for for artificial intelligence. So if we're a boot loader for a I, the way to sort of combat boots. Loader yeah, like like a computer boot loading operating system, okay, yeah, that what we're doing is with a biological described it. The way I've described is that we're sort of an electronic cocoon that's about to make the butterfly and that we are we, the caterpillar, that's making the cocoon and where Khan instantly in pursuit of innovation butterfly is the ai. Yes, the butterfly like, if you see a caterpillar that caterpillar doesn't know what the fucks going on is just making a cocoon it's what it does yeah, and you know it is that's what it knows to do. This yeah theme the ideas that we don't know what the fuck we're doing either like. Why do we need five g's for g, not good enough
God? Damn I get on the internet, pretty God, damn quick. What are we doing? What seems like five gs better in six she'll be better than 5g. If you want to get that mind, reading software you gotta get 7g we're going to do this to the point where one day there's going to be a real thing sitting out, we will merge with the because that's I mean that's the future that I hope for you. Don't lose your self in that you know like you. Are you yourself once you've merged with the ai and then what's holding you back call these emotions are bullshit, that's yeah, yeah right, let's get rid of those! Let's just have pure people, pure people now available through this. That's interesting, because I because, like my whole point with the on futures, the convergence of of the the ultimate goals, if traverse the of technology and are here to the point where we live forever through well, this downloading system that we're talking about earlier on or
you know whatever seemingly makes sense in the trajectory of where technology is going. You know so we do live indefinitely. You know I mean that's like. For me as well, you know my insurance policy, for, if I don't make it to this point, like my dad didn't make it to that that cure is, you know, obviously, ah crowd weekly freezing the to do that, while I'm already signed up Jesus so because I feel like I mean if we are really this discussion is, are we going to make it there in our timeline? I'm forty one so have a better chance of recurs will obviously. So if I know- and I really believe that we know- I guess it's hopeful- you know that that get to this point in our generation that will make it when it's that close, so either we make it and then I die, and then everyone lives forever. Do I want to be
that generation of people that die or the generation of people I go? Oh death is, is a cure. We just uh. We just found. We found a cure for death, just like a cure for cancer, just like you care for whatever what if, after your biological body ceases to function, you move into a new realm of reality. That is a completely different dimension. That's filled with love and understanding like the others, death yeah, you know what is that we don't know, there's no biological shortcomings, there's no emotions and there's no fear here. None of that and there's nobody's huge you're, a soul in another dimension, and then someone unfreezes, you well Steve, wanted to be unfrozen and suck sucked back in people. People like the fuck man I was I was there. I was on the other side, other like you, like click opt out with no, I can't believe this, and so then you go well I'll just die again.
Well, here, here's okay! This is this is what I know 'cause I don't know I mean we both don't know. What's really going to happen, that's likely I mean anything. Is ok? Okay, I'm not saying that! I'm not like a, I don't believe in God, or I do believe in God. I just don't know, what's really happening afterwards, but right, I know of. I know that what I've seen as me, what I understand of what's around me in my feelings, is that if I wake up tomorrow or if someone I love wakes up tomorrow with an incurable disease, that's gonna kill them. It would be the most horrific thing and I think, of the end of the day, the human race is going out to find cures for those kinds of situations. Sure so that's like yes suffering pain, mean I mean that's what we do. We try to stop any long gate, our life yeah. Essentially, we all want to live indefinitely. You know like through finding cures for all of these issues, so
in a live, healthfully yeah, exactly you want to be a wheel chair like for for fifty years, just like string a tv, my caucus, yeah yeah, which is but then again maybe he found of learning, I'm not sure, but you know if you're, healthy and moving and then boom night and day are there, of course, is awful, but Daisy just don't want that. You know, like I mean you, I mean you, you don't want that kind of thing to happen. So, for me, it's like, I would rather opt out then have someone make that some like disease make that decision for me. Yes, the suffering things, the thing that we all want to avoid. We want to avoid discomfort and pain and also causing discomfort to our love. Ones like one of the scariest thing about dying, is leaving behind greeters, leaving behind people that are saddened and miss you terribly yeah, it's like when you've seen people with their loved ones have died. It's it's in on what I've lost loved ones. We all have and it's a weird
void. They say it's horrific is traumatic and it's you know, that's where my conquest or my interests in and led to anti aging, the future. You know and then building on that for the ones that I love that are alive now you know and doing what a candlelight share the information so that they live as long as they possibly can in the healthiest way possible yeah. So, like I'm like this gathering gathering information as I go, you know it's it's exciting because of those things as I get bigger as a personality, you know, sometimes I do jump into these rooms and in one case just recently, I I there's a doctor that that, just that I've worked with a of guns to doesn't stem cell injections with in Denver, and he came to my house. He was with similar doctors and they're like oh yeah. This is Dr Convention in LAS Vegas, those conventions all the time there,
so they all came over and like hey, you know, there's some breakthrough groundbreaking stuff. That's happened this year. You can now find out on cellular level of cancer detection for at least sixteen different cancers and also like it's like very, very pretty tentative. You know more along the line, so I was like I want in so I got the information and I just like that was a Christmas present for everyone. What kind of stem cell procedures you I mean? The first time was through the damn bills. Marion he's introduced me to the one in Panama, so went down there. Don't do Neil Reardon exactly what my mom was just down there? Oh yeah, last week, yeah I've sent it down there twice. That's great. It was in the verge of getting a knee replacement and uh. Her knee was really bad and ah eight months it was took awhile. But my mom was seventy three within eight months.
Her knee stop being in pain and she was able to walk and she can say they went to the Grand Canyon, amazing, yeah, and now she went back again to just get a second dose and juice it up some more. It's incredible just know when I was there, I saw a lot of kids in there with the one in Panama, because it's it it the Grossmont. That's something I'd like. I don't want to see each other, a tissue right, so kids with muscle dystrophy kids with the like, where they can't walk anymore. They get the stem cell injections and they can walk for and then after six months. You know that the stem cells do body are are like the reason stay with you, minish right so again on the scientific terms. I could be off, but they have to go back in get the stem cells and they can have you know, as you know, that kind of life instead of having me in a wheelchair. So I went, I went in there because I just want
try it out. My friend also came with me: has asthma knocked out asthma? He never had to use inhaler for way past six months really yeah, because the stem cells also really affect the lungs, the umbilical cord cells. They they travel the lungs first from what is an ivy ivy version yeah and ivy. We did ivy. I did shoulder my shoulders because I have, I later got um rotator cuff surgery, because I like a bone spur going into my attendant, but I try to use the stem cells to so. I didn't have to go the surgery, but you can't road bone right so yeah, so you get it shaved down what they did exactly yeah and but I just like my performance level went out the like the general
all kind of markers of what it's supposed to do actually increase actually right after right. After that, like I went back, they went and went back to Vegas met up with Dan and we we had to work on. It was like it's just an old two times more any did you know it worked like you know it did. It was scientifically supposed to do for me for my stamina, my energy, yeah and um. You did it for three days to do the three days three days and three days of ivy and then injects in into different joints and exactly and ah that did that and then about a year later, um I was with Dr Grossman he's the doctor. I work with in he wrote the book with Ray Kurzweil called uh um. I think it's the sub, the subtext of the book is staying
alive until we get told, tell free reach singularity or something like that, and it's a it's like a a book on being healthy, basically anti aging book. He wrote that in with the with with well that's why I heard about him. I went to him a few years back to get like the full blood work going for me and my family. What we did like. Two days of testing all kinds of stuff to learn more about our bodies and see what we're deficient in what we're not what vitamins we need to take to supplement the things that were deficient in- and I came back just you know, maybe a year ago to do his version of stem cells because in America is a different. I think x, Panama's, obviously out of American, so they're doing the umbilical cord stem cells. Are they harvest? The stem cells from umbilical cords saves stays zero stem cells he's doing some cells? It's almost like a plasma therapy when that they took my blood spin it and there
you know, pulling out the stem cells from my own blood. So it's forty one year old, stem cells, but his point that he saying is that the size of the stem cells they're much smaller, so they're able to travel past where it ends of clogging, which is like the lungs and like certain areas of the body. So it does travel more. Just it's not the days. Zero stem cells, but it's still effectively doing its work. When you think back to like twenty years ago, there was no discussion of this. So this is a completely you know. I've add stem cell shots too, and I had a full length. Rotator cuff tear in my right arm is gone. Just it will freak sealed up. Well, heeled yeah, I was in real problems with is our most
and I was gonna need surgery. Now it works great, no problems at all hit the bag, lift weights and you you injected intravenously, and into the arms yeah. I've done both yeah excess soames have done. There's a new thing, called wardens jelly that had a pretty profound effect. It's a very potent mixture of stem cells, we're getting close to the point where you don't have to go to Panama, but going to Panama right now is the way to go. So that's why you wanna go for! No, I didn't go to Panama. Did it all in America where Santa Monica, please call mom and Madison have to try that out. So please that originally started going to for Regina King. Do you know Regenta Kane is keen was originally invented in Germany and a lot of guys like Peyton Manning and Kobe Bryant. They had the flu up fly to Germany back in the day to get this and what they do is it's a more advanced form, a platelet, rich plasma right like they're, taking
your blood out. They spin it in a centrifuge and heat it through some process and they add things to it and in the process that creates this. Incredibly potent anti inflammatory agent from your own blood, like this yellow serum, then inject this yellow serum directly into areas where you have injury and or inflammation. It has a radical healing effect and it's really really good for bulging discs, people of disk issues of back issues, and I had a pretty bad one in my neck, that was keeping me Anna Jujitsu. My hands are going numb. You know, 'cause, the bulge was pushing against my nerves now
gone like I've got it. I got Emery's six months later after the procedure, there's no more bulge. Now, most of the time when you have a bulging disk, sometimes it can go back and he'll, but most the time it does not and most of time what happens. Is you wind up having to get a dissected me where they go into the disk? They remove the offending piece. That's sticking into your nerve, but now you have a smaller disc of less disc tissue. So your discs start to collapse, your actual spinal column. You know the actual hard bone moves closer to the other hard bone, and you know it becomes real problem. Arthritis forms, scar, tissue forms, the more disc tissue you have. You know that the better off you are and they're able to do that.
Now to the point where the increase said this tissue. Well, it would, it doesn't decrease it okay. So when the disc is bulging, it actually gets to go back in it gets it to retreat and the stem cells is another plasma therapy, Regina Kane, but stem cells have been shown to start to do that too. They have actually started injecting stem cells directly in did Ickes disc tissue, and I was talking to Dr Rati Mcgee out of LAS Vegas, he's one of the guys it's really at the cutting edge of all this stuff, well with UFC fighters and they're doing that with them, and he was the guy. I originally went to T treat my shoulder because of Doctor Davidson from the UFC who's, the main doctor for the UFC. He was telling me he had shoulder surgery he's a little bit older than me and
shoulder surgery took, but he was still having issues with it was trying to figure out what would he should do because he's still having pain when he's swimming went and got some stem cell injections, all the pain went away. So I was telling me about that. He's. Like you know, you got some pretty significant tears. You might really need surgery, but maybe this will help you for now, so I went there and the the amount of help that it that the of alleviation of pain and discomfort was stunning. How Sarah Kinney believe this is a real thing. You just shoot this into whatever is bothering you and then all sudden, like four months later, you like, where is the pain, only fucking pain anymore? I need to meet K. Q enters yeah, it's great yeah, yeah I'll, give you his number have a great. I send people to him all the time he's on the cutting edge of everything like anytime, he's a young guy and he's a really enthusiastic and super brilliant and anytime there's any sort of cutting edge medical practice that guys he's on it like, for instance, one of things are doing now
is when people get a c l tears, which usually, when you get an a c l, tear usually need reconstruction and usually with that reconstruction is either a cadaver graft where they take the Achilles and in out of a dead person and shove it in your knee, and then your body re proliferates that with its own cells, it takes about six months, and then you have a functional tendon again, it's great. I had it done myself, but now they're able to reattach the actual tourney, a c l with the some special technique they do and they've had people tearing ACL and then compete in the Olympics. Four months later, wow, which is fuck banana, says crazy. I mean he showed me this procedure and how they do, and then he showed me this guy four months, post op doing all these box jumps and shit, and I was like this is nuts. It is nuts well, so there's a lot of hope
in terms of regenerative medicine, absolutely and thank God for people like Dr Reardon and Dr Mcgee and Dr Ben Ruhi, who was the guy that I go to in Santa Monica? I mean these guys are just on top of this incredible new wave of regenerative medicine yeah, I'm obsessed with that world. So how are you talking about? It's like a it's very exciting yeah when you're in Vegas, you got a visit Roddy a lot of these other great guy, too yeah. He would love them yeah and he's like super through the ask about the funds of the you're enthusiastic about it. He's a heel kick out which is yeah. What else have you had done? Um stem cells um shoulders shoulder. I had. I just had a focal surgery, vocal cord surgery, whoa. Ah, did you get polyps
or something yeah did ya Paul avoid on my vocal corks, ISIS sing in a band. I said I used to be it's like in a scream, oh hardcore band. Who are a few of them? I mean that's where, like that's my roots, food, who were my music, was as far what led deejaying was being in these like hardcore punk bands. So that's a lot of screaming lots of screaming yeah, and then I carried that through when I finally like when I finally, you know retired that hat and I started deejaying years and years later and I started doing these bigger, bigger chosen started in the festivals. I brought out that same energy again and I started you when I started producing music music musicales bringing guitars. I was screaming on some of these songs, so I'm bringing some
I passed in with my music and I'm back again, but in a different world and- and I just I'm, not I'm not a trained singer, you know so. I destroyed my vocal chords and I was just like. Raspy is held like I was just like an old italian man shows on uh, and then I saw a doctor is like you: don't have a choice you're gonna have to like you have to take break and I'm you know I'm doing like two hundred and fifty shows a year. So it's like because stuff for the month and and ah and and not talk for a month. That was crazy, no talking for a whole month. Yeah. Imagine Joe Rogan not talking for a whole month, but a lot of people have excited, but I had to do that was very hard. I actually saw life coach before accepting like I'm terrified. I don't want my life
demons, whatever anxiety or whatever things that I have like creeping up weather they're like okay, you're mine. Now you can't get talk to someone about. You know yeah like I, don't have scared, you know, but uh I got through it. I just I'm a very busy body kind of person so, like I just scheduled, it was like going back to college, but with things that I needed to train and get better at like get better at piano, get better admit it ation get better at at. Ah, you know twisting the knobs engineering whatever it might be, that I want to be better at. I just brought more people into my world, then I finished like an album that month making music with different people, so I just was just so focused on creation and and learning and reading, and you know all that good stuff. So when I left I was like okay now I know how to do. Tm meditation, transcendental meditation
and you know I'm a more comfortable doing the things that that helped me be a better artist. Well, it obviously worked right for what was the first sound that you made after a month. What was the the first word I'll? Tell you something? That's really interesting. I know now to do the most hygienic sneeze, but you can possibly do tell us, because now I can sneeze with no visible vapor. Reddit residue, you know when people sneeze they see this video. It's like this cloud of trillions of bacteria floating in the air. Of course, if you do that to me, you'll probably see some vapor, but you don't feel on your hand if you sneeze and you just like your it's all gunky and you know it happens, sometimes right yeah. Well now I can sneeze because I'm not using my vocal cords. So as I sneeze I blow out really hard because I had no choice I couldn't cough, I couldn't actually use a vocal court after
the surgery. So what if you had to cough so that we saw when I sneeze I sneeze like that. So if you do, that, was that how you do it? That's how I sneeze almost want to get some dust see if yeah. If you could make pcs, I will show you and then basically, so you just breathe out yeah, it's the cleanest needs. You could possibly do so. That's one very important thing I learned, but the first sound I don't remember, is scared to say a word like when you're ready to who's up yeah yeah- and it's probably just you know. All of you know you also whispering- is really bad whisperings band like that yeah like yeah, so you were springs, not good for your vocal cords. You think it's likes, gent gentler on them, but from what I was told to not
whisper, so I literally was texting all the time for until how to make that you know if you probably develops lightning fast thought, because he wanted to get things out. But did you that's what you did most of time to check people text to tie our let's call text to talk when I was in my meetings, because you know I run various different. You know businesses and I have to in Albion, call some like taxi to talk, and I was Stephen hawking did you know yeah yeah yeah? What happens is if go back to you because the agenda for today they apparently wanted him a better voice and he didn't want it. Do you like give him a smoother, more SIRI like voice? Sorry, I didn't understand that you know you can get syrian nice english voice. He was not interested. He likes that he liked. While he was alive that weird rough compute,
he I mean from what I heard about him. He just his sense of humor was was very funny and he's just a very sarcastic guy. So you seem like a really interesting guy who also really like strip clubs. No, I did not have Eric Weinstein told me about that member see, but there was a really interesting article written about him that he would love to get wheeled into a strip club. He like he enjoyed it and like like being there, but I guess that completely makes if you lost control of your body still were attracted to women still found them. Amazing you'd want to see them naked dancing in front of right, so it makes total sense yeah. You know uh, because you want, like I mean exactly, you can't get it, but you could at least be there yeah. What do you got Jamie there? It is claimed Physicist Hocking, a regular at California Strip Joint he's a regular. It's hilarious,
make it rain. I proud to say that I saw him speak when I was in college. Oh wow, no kidding yeah, look at him with strippers. Follow Peterson Stephen Hawkings go to strip clubs. Look at him! That's amazing! What is it a smile? He lived so happened. He looks so happy who we hate absolutely yeah, yeah um. I would. I would imagine that would be a very trying thirty days so when it came when it was over, was your voice normal did it? Does it come back? It was different, but I was warned that it would sound a little different like you sound different now than you sounded before the operation. So what I sound like now, so I almost forgot what I sound like before, but I think maybe a semitone differently. You know, but.
You know it's like you just get used to the new year like if I was going to be half cyborg, half half man, uh, probably just be like hey. This is me, you know, like you, just get to that when you, when you. Situated in that, the half cyborg thing is going to be really weird when people start replacing legs, because I think if you could develop a leg like a cybernetic leg, that's better than a normal egg, someone's going to say, chop my leg off and give me one of those someone someone somewhere else can do that. And if that becomes seamless- and you know you get some Steve
since six million dollar man type going on- see a real weird, that's a what you've all talks about how it is. You know that the whole idea that, like first, we use the technology to heal the people that need it, but at the end of the day it's going to be used for advancing humanity. Mmhm, you know like there's, like you know, the the you want to save. You want to help people that that need walk first right yeah, but that that then it's like just like you said. If it becomes very normal, then the upgrades it will be used as well to advance the people that don't need it yeah. And then we get to a point where you're on your head. Taking a bring out slept in- and it's that's also what's interesting- is that when you say that Intel now it sounds crazy, it does, but it doesn't yeah well to you, it doesn't yeah, but to me it doesn't
either, but that's exactly what you're saying about the phone or like what you're showing as someone in the victorian age, yeah it's about the internet right and only gets that place is going to you know it's it's. It's gonna feel like out, while everyone everyone did itself like when Luke Skywalker got his arm chopped off in star wars, they put another arm on me, really quick, number yep. Now that she is going to happen, I believe it yeah. I don't think that's I don't I'm think. That's too far away. I think it's probably twenty five years away. I hope so. I think I hope so too is where we are seeing some pretty advanced, um, artificial limbs. So uh there was a guy who got his leg and his arm bit off by a shark, and I met him at the comedy store and he has this carbon fiber arm and a carbon fiber legs. The guy doesn't walk with a limp. He wants
the normal. He shook my hand. How scared, because, like I don't crush my hand, because he's got some iron man, hand and he's like well then have like the does. Look like a hand or is it still? The file in hand well, yeah, like a black carbon fiber hand that articulates it moves hazard, they're starting to make it where you can feel. Yes, I think they are yeah so that way, it's right there, yeah we've actually mean that's the next level right, it's like when you could make an arm that has nerve joints into the artificially intelligent and artificially connecting with your with your brain. Yeah he's he's an interesting character because that arm I mean it's you you really get this. I am robot kind of feel like I'm seeing in his arm and his leg like because it's I mean I'm sure he would tell you that he's much better off with his arm and his leg back.
When you see the guy walk around man he's the DIS walks around looks normal. I mean what they used to have in comparison to what they have today. Meat is leaps and bounds and I'm sure the future. So that's as is actual arm well, and so it looks like well shark bit his arm off. That's a I mean I I I wouldn't want to, but the arm and leg yeah I was a hungry shark is yeah it's so you know it's interesting, because this is that we're in the we're in this new frontier of what's possible. I'm sure they're, upgrading his stuff all the time as well, in on what's or what's available to someone like him yeah. But it's exciting to see the I mean when you when you like enough, when you see it first hand yeah, I am not living, and you know where we're going. The knowledge like I'm saying, like all the Sci FI films, that we see that
some of them are going to have very real. You know scenarios in our life for sure yeah. Are you a technology geek outside of the sort of? Ah thinking about the body as in I mean I am, of course I've definitely say: I'm a tech, geek yeah, because you kind of have to if you're you create electronic music. Yes, uh, I'm a gadget. Guy too, you know I love like gadgets and trying new little things that are out there like want to try it all. I want to like experience things in different ways. My experience overall, creating music electronically is it's kind of polarizing to some people, though right because I mean I think your music sounds fucking amazing, but for some people they want to hear an actual string of a guitar. The rap of a drum the you know
like people have this like very narrow idea through music is, is so, and you know I think that there's two layers to to like electronic music. You know you have to first of all make you sick. So you're you're, you are making the music in one form or another. With you know, I don't actually don't use live instrumentation so much, but sometimes I do and because I come from that world, it's natural for me to bring a guitar in, but it's not necessary. You know everything can be made from a laptop. You don't even actually need very much anymore. We can make make like a a and yeah garage band. Yes, would be the rudimentary for use windows to use a MAC. I use a apple able, ten, live and ah able lives of software yeah. It's like the dog, the that I used to create the music, but you know you can literally you don't even need a keyboard, don't even a mouse. You really just need
hard drive of samples or you know having enough that you can build off of and your keyboard becomes I'll. You know how how you're gonna paint your notes, and so you can make it that streamline if you wanted to now. Having like this big studios is great, and I have a really beautiful studio, my house, but it's more about the energy of the room for me like I want to go in there like going I'm going for twelve hours and I'm gonna be excited to do that all the way until whatever time is at LAS Vegas, the biggest effect of being in a club being in a casino. And you don't know what time it is, and I want that same effect in my room to be like energized and it also energized people that come in. But if I'm on the road, like you know, making an idea and just like strip lining it, I don't really need much. You know, and I think that's what you set up right there. Oh yeah dude, what a fucking badass room carpet
yeah. I call it when I'm with that. It's all blue, obviously he left, but my books called Blue is my fave color. I want the feeling to feel new futuristic, so it's the neon future K. If you look up at the ceiling, if you scroll up in a picture whatever you get to see, maybe it's not in that picture, but I have yeah so you have like these, like Ellie Light's, coming through the ceiling as if you're in, like a cave, whoa and um, and then you're looking at everything in this enormous projection screens that what that is, yeah and it's and it's seats, a ton of people. So you know just I mean releasing my my next singles with the Backstreet boys. So I can fit all the back boys guys in my house in my studio, and we could, you know, do what we have. You always lived in Vegas
moved to Vegas in twenty. I bought my house in two thousand and thirteen. What made you move to Vegas um I was living in L, a and my career, broken LOS Angeles, so no doubt about it being in L, a for as a musician as an artist, someone in music. That's where you, if you want a break you're gonna, have all the connections and build your network here fastest than anywhere else in the world. New York, I feel like is the media hub for fashion and then L A is a is a music up and then Atlanta is like the hip, Hop Pub Nashville's country um, but I broke in L A and when I start touring, two thousand and nine ten, two thousand eight nine ten eleven I was just gone. I start I wasn't like living in L a the way I lived in L, a going out to all the places that I love to eat all the culture of what l layoffs offer. I was only there fifty days of the year, maybe so I was like well
residency to in LAS Vegas when the nightlife boomed for DJS and from two thousand and ten it was a big shift of of what night life has to offer. Yes and DJS were big part of that, and I saw a you know big residency deal and then I was like I I mean I'm here more than I am in LA, and you know it's a good tax situation. There is there's no state tax there and I'd have to leave la my home turf, but I'm not even there right. So I just moved ship entirely bought a house by the dream situation house, that's worth like, there's so many perks for me because la I had like a two thousand and twenty five hundred square foot, maybe three thousand Square Foot House, which was nice million dollar house in the hills, and that's when I finally made it before I lived in a apartment on the long pre, no Central EAST Hollywood,
I guess Hollywood and Vine area nine hundred dollars for nine hundred square feet. That's where it all started for me this. When I first moved to LA and started making money, it took time to get there. I kind of talked about that in the book like the hardships to get there because um when the best lessons of my father shared with me, was this tough love attitude where you know he was a very rich flamboyant restauranteur Benny Hondas had fancy cars was very flashy. Very american, ah he's the one that broke through the american dream: the Japanese, the one of the few japanese people who actually did that so he's just like you know, look at me with you know, flying hot air balloons, offshore boat racing and, and then, like you know, I guess the traditional things like that he would financially help me. You know because he has the money to do that, but one of the most powerful things he did was he just financially didn't financially help me and I had to figure, though
my issues, my hardships, my business plans, my financial issues that I was going through on my own, so I just start there and because of that, I was able to succeed through some of the hard stuff and and how that drive to want to make money for myself. So during that time, in la you know, I'm kind of dressing here you know I live in this apartment about seven years and then the deejaying, my first with my record label that was like. Why moved L a sign artists, develop them, help them, and then I was deejaying building the brand of the label and we created a really cool scene in LA and we were breaking some of the biggest acts, not breaking where we were the underground hot bed. You know, like I say, like the comedy shop or something where, like everyone would hang out so like Lady Gaga was
sing for free at our shows. Skrillex was there every single week will damn was dancing in the corner and then going back to the studio, making black eye? It's because two thousand seven through two thousand and nine black eyed peas, were the biggest artist LMFAO is: was there every single week? This is, and then they became the biggest tax you're like this hotbed of music culture in LA, but it was by parties and and then that's how I you know made a name for myself is that I was throwing these parties and I was dj them, but no one cared that I was dj. The only reason why they're going is because of these acts would always be there and then the slabs were come in. You know that's what Djm into the six two thousand and five and then we got together and he brought the celebs in so now like there's a spotlight of pre TMZ kind like oh, what's going on over here with this electro sound with you, have like daft punk they're on Masten and like really cool underground,
unlike Cuddy there and Connie W coming through, and then there's Lindsay Lohan and Paris Hilton and all these different people, all like in a small room. People wanted to know what the hell is going on in in that little space- and this is what's what's great about this time- was that it was pre. Snapchat pre social media was just my space, so you had to be in that room to experience what was happening. So people would fly in to just be in that room to hear what was the cutting edge sound. That was going to be eventually popular. You know people want to play in that little three hundred four hundred cap room. Did you film any of that? There is always one guy filming. I mean that's the thing because back then there was no phones that could films like razors, and you know like like blackberries, that you know you just cannot kicks yeah. It's like it's the worst quality, so a guy went to bring camcorder in right and this
one guy Glenn Jaymon. He would always film those parties with COBRA snake cobra snake. My best, my best friend just run with me to all the shows and parties because back then I would play like five nights a week in LA and and he which graph and he would document and that's how you find out about the lifestyle that the call the does the clothes like this. The look of you know what it was to be on Inga in Hollywood and that whole you know, and then you see kid Cudi there and you see Connie West there and you'll see you whoever else that was just like hanging out absorbing the culture that that we're like creating there and and then eventually. That was what let me out of my debt bubble. That was, you know, because I was a pretty bad businessman. I was running did look. I thought I was doing right because I signing acts that actually battered and we're taking off, but I just didn't know how you know:
I'm just spending spending like YO. We keep cool with this and then you know then start bringing the right people and I was like okay. I need to build a team. I need to build some people that have some sense abilities in this world, while creative and then the Jane just took off as I was getting more production shin getting onto remixing getting more in a creating myself as an artist and then that is what people know about me now, but really it was people knew about me because of Denmark and and it's ah it's it's interesting. How sometimes the evolutions of the errors of who you are. You know change over time, um and then you know fast forward. Two thousand in thirteen is when I was like okay, I got la help grow me to who I am my
meant. My label, there's still l a you, know um, but Steve Aoki, it's gonna be left days. I would love to see a documentary on that to see that would be an amazing film like to see how that all was going down right now like if you have video footage of you, get somebody edit that and put together a documentary of that time period, because it's a really interesting time period. Yeah, you know for the the creation of electron make music and what you pointed out that so interesting was that two thousand and ten was really somewhere around the time. Vegas started becoming these. These electronic music shows started taking precedent there. The biggest fucking thing I was staying at the Wynn recently and the hotel room we were at was overlooking the pool, and I forget who it was that was playing there, but it was fucking
in chaos and, like you don't, and especially when you're you know we're like above, like higher above looking down the yeah, I get that room threads. I view it was so crazy. It was so loud and so crazy and there was everybody's got pool. It was fucking madness and you're going. This never existed. Yeah. I mean I've been coming to Vegas for a long time that this is a new thing. It is a new thing over the last nine years exactly and it's over take in Vegas everywhere you go. There's these gigantic billboards with your your a sonnet or whatever other DJS best place and who's. The guy with the Fucking marshmallow head is a guy at marshmallow. Well, that's marshmallow! Yeah, like the unknown comic. It's got a marshmallow on his head, but there's so many. I didn't even know who that was. Like my kids are explained to me. My eleven year olds explained to be we gotta. Fuck do you know
March and in where they are, and it's just it's every one that's going out in Vegas, but it used to be Vegas is to be like cultural, weird void, yeah right, he would have some big acts that would come through there, but it we seem like they were at the end of the run right yeah, you know you you had to be at the end of your run, yeah like when Michael J. I was considering doing Vegas is like ok is like finally saying that this is the right. You know like the legacy talented, like Celine Dion in residency in Vegas, like she probably tire Donny, Marie yeah Matt, a low yeah yeah, I mellow, you know like carrot top. Does the residency there he's doing really? Well, it's not it's not a knock yeah. I know it's not it's really not, but it's that's what it was, but then, all of a sudden they became electronic music and it's like wow. What is happening like
you know. These things are enormous, like there's so much bigger than any other kind of event you have in Vegas other than like massive sporting events like the right see or something yeah. Well it definitely it's it's provoked by energy to you know like, and it's at that's infectious gas. Well, it's a fucking great time. If you go to see, Barry Manilow or you know whatever have knock on them, but you know I'm saying, like I'm sure it's fine, it's mellow like whatever you're into, but when you're seated, you know like you're seated for a reason, because you're there to like sit and just enjoy yes at at no seats at a Steve Shell, be there are there that I think the tables and stuff, but no one state sitting down right it. That's the that the the strangest unless there was passed out, truck or something, but for the for everyone standing and jumping and being part of the moment- and that's that's my job
yeah. I need to make sure everyone's attention is on me and then I'm taking them to this next level. I've always wondered what it's like to live in Vegas, though, like I've never lived there, my good friend, Dana White lives. They love their there. He raves about it, but I've always liked Vegas. Okay, so it is it for me. So I'm all a guy right, like my heart and like you know, I love LOS Angeles. I know LA so well, and you know with LA you: have your limitations, it's LOS Angeles. You can't like, if you your dream house, you guys have to have a lot of money to do that in Vegas. When I moved there in two thousand thirteen, I got sick about my house. Sixteen thousand square feet, whoa two point: six: eight million. I think to a point where it's yet to put it was a short sellers. As total steel I mean like the guts were not good like it was like one of those like prop homes. Almost
so I had to re gotten like I spent like five million into the house, and it was more about building. I own dream house as I would want to, but I have a phone pit in there with a trampoline room. I have I I. The hole in my backyard was too far away from my house, so I filled it in and I built a pool at sixteen feet deep right. Next to my patio, that's twenty feet up who built the patio out. So that way I can jump into the pool from the top and I'm like it's basically a big kid. I think about how I want to make my house fun Interactive, the artist that come there for me have a fun gym of you know. I got my own chess station. Backgammon station have a poker room, you it's it's the most hospitable house and I have all this space. I have like a big shoe room, big shoe collector. I got
crazy library with books and records. You know I'll have a. I have a Bruce Lee. The mirror am a mirror room, it's my closet, but it's it's like you walk in. It's like LSD, trips, every with mirrors, and you know I'm just having fun I'm having fun with my house. There's a mirror room. I have some really crazy, really beautiful ARI, but I got this amazing Banksy, piece, um and so I've you know been starting to collect our there's. My shoe remote doesn't banks, you get mad at people by a ship. Well, I bought it from him. Oh you met him. Tell us what he looks like. He is a girl who was kidding. I never met him, but you know I've got into through his people to get into as he definitely a real person. You know I don't know, how long does that it's someone in two thousand and nineteen is managed to stay, that secretive, really kind of incredible because he's a
real phenomenon. Yeah I mean he's- I mean everybody knows the banks, he is yeah right or you know off the oxy I should say, but no one knows who he is, which is crazy. What the fuck has ever pulled that off right, unique human being true. How does human work? It's not sure do that. I think I mean it's. It's like his he's always seeming to find a way to troll people in a social or political critique, just like he did with the the art sale of the shredded pass. How amazing was that yeah that was pretty crazy, yeah but watch those people after they paid it and see the thing name dropped out red. Let me ask you this, though I don't want to go to deep into this, but because I don't know if I'm like stepping on tell us here, but if
this is really suffrage or we know what what like a real auction house, are, they gonna look at the painting or the peace or they're gonna open up the frame and make sure there's not some we're drill going through, like I don't think they would ever expect that to be the case I mean but you're, but you're you're antique. You should be checking everything making sure these authentic know. Well, if it's in uh, authentic peace and somehow or another, some viable source brings it to them as an authentic piece. They just accept the fact they don't check the details of the I mean: what can they Dio, meanwhile, by the way I'll? Take that fucking glue that bitch back together again leave it that you want to like that. So it's like what makes the value is, it regulated actually have it hanging there. That's why you wanted in your house really you want it just like that. Yeah look at the peoples face. Sometimes, if I get that I got the phone. Oh, no! Oh, no, Thurston, just a piece
huh. Yeah you know I I wish like it's funny that we talked about this 'cause. Sometimes I forget, like you, know, we're having a chat, and I realized. Oh there's a lot people listening in on this. So maybe I shouldn't give away some of the stuff that I've learned about it, but yeah anyways we'll leave it there. Well he's uh, definitely unique human yeah. So let's get back to Vegas, so you don't feel weird living there, because the one thing that I've felt about Vegas is, I always enjoy going there and enjoy leaving more my home. Give me let me get it. That's because you go there with that intention like for me, I built by compound right. So it is home, it's one hundred percent, it's it's exciting to be home and the best part about it is like. First, I built the compound this dream house to invite. Like all my friends, I'm a hospitable guy, so I like one artist to come there. My friends come stay there with me with family and the next best thing
calling my mom and my sister who lived together and I said Vegas will you be in my neighborhood and they said yes, and that was the best money I ever spent was by my Mama house and then you know like they live around the corner. My mom is cooking like by the time I'm home. I see my mom all the time and I never had the opportunity we ten plus year gap. Where I see her like once every six months, because I'm just touring like a beast now, I just see my family a lot more. You know like it. So in a way I'm trying to bring my family all to Vegas, my cousins moved from from the east coast with his wife and his mom to Vegas. You know before you, my mom, so I have my cousin there. I my mom, my sister there with their daughter by brother cab. There is a restaurant tours well he's planning to make the move 'cause we're going to open up some restaurants on stripped to, and you got your fingers in a lot of pies and
at Pine Hill. I do have peace Aoki! No! Yes, I do. I have nineteen kitchens now well yeah, it's been about about a year and two months and we're growing at a rapid rate, and I would imagine hundred and ninety year, nineteen kitchen is crazy, sister in LOS Angeles, because that's you know like that's where we kind of broke ground and we're just opening up kitchens in all the areas that that ah Postmates was giving us in for and like you know, this is where it makes sense to do that. So we work with all the delivery hubs and it mostly delivery thing or do you yeah, so two dining locations, but the whole business model is about delivery, really yeah. It's all about delivery, and that way my costs are very low and then I could be affected, like I'm. Not really. Spending much money on marketing and what's funny is that people love to post about pizza and
Aoki is a pretty fun concept to fight companion, piece Aoki Saturday make it had also is. I will send as many Pco he's you guys need like whenever you want out of life. I companion for the? U of c this Saturday would be like eleven am in the morning, because it's in Abu Dhabi, so what will hit it up, make that happen, yeah all right kind of pc, I'm oh, we got all kinds of pieces, but, most importantly, you know the the idea of peace, Aoki might say sound like a gimmick and you're like okay, I'll, try it out, but sixty percent of the people or in pc, ok I'll return. So we know that it's you know. I would imagine that you do anything half assed. Now I don't think, that's you! So do you get you so you've ascent, essentially like created your own world in Vegas, so everyone's there that you know and you can stick the thing about. Vegas right is like the allure of the strip, but you're kind of
from that a we don't do drugs, you don't drink right, you don't around with anything. No yeah! That's like one of the things we talk of you know we talked about how I am sustainable is that you you have to not do the certain things that that make it on sustainable right. So I never really got into drugs. I do talk about my book, my first acid trip when I was thirteen, but that scared the living shit out of me to stay away from anything genic and literally thirteen, so you'd I just a way for drugs. That's a bad time to do acid, it's a very, very funny story, but it got to the point where I just became this. This straight edge hardcore kid. I became extremely religious because I was in this like I was thirteen. I was looking up going, I'm gonna be fucked the rest, my life like when you're on acid you're, like fucking you're, just so fucked up and
when you start thinking like this, is how I'm gonna be forever you're clinging on to anything that can get you out right and for me, when I up up as a kid I'm almost putting into like Catholic School and one of the best thing that catholic schools do is indoctrinate kids on fear so know, like I remember, going up to the drawing board like there's like a a drawing of what hell is like guess: who's going there forever people. They don't believe. You know, and you know, when you're young, you start seeing that and and then, when you get into a place of. Vulnerability where your I was, I was like scared shittless. I was like I'm I'm going to go to an insane award when I'm thirteen, because I can't get all this acid hell trip. How long last, I guess like what seventy hours, but every second is like a minute. You know, because you cannot sleep, you cannot stop thinking about where in I mean there is like it's like this exaggerated emotions. Like the first part of my acid trip
I was like I was so funny. I was laughing at everything like the best thing ever did it? Oh, my god, everything is so funny. I was laughing I'm like in pain because I'm like so just laughing and everything just everything's joyous, then like I went into this up shut down world like stranger things when I got dropped off at my friend's house and. Everyone went dark and my friends are my friends fourteen he doesn't do drugs, so he was his mom was coming to you. Ok, everything's! Ok, I didn't know you won't ask no, they knew. I was on acid, but they're like you're. Like I'm like eighty japanese kid. You know five foot. You know like a little kid like what the hell am I doing acid. For you know I do talk about like where I came out, but yeah so like when I was when I got flipped in that world that everything was like. I saw a street fighter like fire
balls from right you coming at me like when I closed when I close my eyes. It was very, very vibrant and vivid, and I mean it was it's a trip for sure. So once you regain sanity you're like enough of any of this non yeah yeah, once I was like, oh my god, I'm back this is this is for real, like I have fuck drugs like and then I was like I'm straight edge because that's the music I was starting to get into, and then I was like, I'm all about God and Jesus say gave me. You know like he saved me. So, like the kid I was very religious going out and that you know start for more about the world and and then went more from this face a faith based concepts of living through life to in all things that needed me. Work did indeed make sense for me, I'm a very much more scientific on, like the understanding of how I wanted to see things
where, where did the change take place? When did it take place? That would happen to be college and post where'd. You go school, Uc, Santa Barbara, so when it was great yeah, I love Santa Barbara God. It's like the hidden gem of California right so sweet out there, so you just became educated, started learning more about things and then yeah. I don't know if there is a one spark that happen. It was just kind of like set questions about why things happen like what? What is religion like what you know how things work in the world how societies are built um? Did you study theology a little a little, but I don't know if that would be like the philosophy class I was taking was not really the the crux of it sociology was my major was women studies and sociology when I was in college women's studies
yeah well, yeah yeah. This is the bottom of this. I'd have to say like strangely Duffy. That's the first thing you think about right. Why is that? Guy in women studies I mean the reason why I was in that department is because my favorite teachers, the ones teaching classes, so I just was like all right. I'll try this one and I'm like wow. This is extra, pretty interesting, I'll, try another one and um, and then I was like well I'll, just I'll finish off the major and uh. You know a have to say, like the stuff that I learned in school, it's in large part of how I kind of looked through I kind of like now to get through life like
sociology. I am a sociologist. I want to study people like why they do certain things you know like how do I navigate them in different directions? Well and then you've become a purveyor of great fun. Thank you. That's essentially what you do professional right, a you give people great time. Your shows this wild extremely energetic experience for people and they leave there's a certain level of transformants. I've watched some of your shit online. You do these enormous crowds, man, it's so epic, and you see all those people going fucking, crazy and dance. Along to your shit, I mean it's gonna, be a wild wild feeling, knowing that you're, giving this really positive experiences. Thousands and thousands of people that are just roar sing along to your music.
Why does he say and, like you know, you know like yeah yeah, because it is exactly what you're saying and that's why I, I guess you could say I'm addicted to that and because I care much about that, I have to be sustainable. You know goes back to what we're talking about like do you? Do you do too there's no fucking way, you could do two hundred and fifty shows a year and get fucked up two hundred and fifty dollars because there's a lot you know in that business, especially you know the business of electronic dance, music, there's a lot of people doing Molly right, there's a lot of people, doing all kinds of and fed a means and all kinds of crazy shit and you're going to think, like you do that every night man you're going to look like an eighty year old man, forty years old, because you've literally burn the candle with a blowtorch use that Elon Musk not candle. You know I mean it's,
but you know what I always say. If, whenever I have the opportunity is that for the people in my crowds- and I have to say country back country, they're very different as far as like what I think, if they're doing drugs or not where they do the most drugs? Oh, I don't think so. I don't, but you know it's hearty like it's like I'm just judging right. I don't know what what people are doing out there. I could judge by how interactive they are. That's what the best way I can tell right off. Yeah like yeah. If there that's the worst like subject to play too, is like literally playing at a cocktail. Party backs are turned to use the same kind of thing for me, so they're already high and they just like lost in their world like it's no fun for me, plus. I spent so much time making like my set so interactive, so engaging and entertaining like bit.
I get it yeah, but, like you know, some people are going to do it. You're not going to be like the Debbie Downer elected overall drugs get the hell outta. Here you lose eighty percent of crowd. If you said that everyone drives the fuck outta here have a listen to you. What percentage do you think in Vegas would leave? I don't know, I don't know. I know you wanted. I don't even want to know. I don't even want to know honestly. This weed weed is different, though, is more like chill like, but if your soul, like highs, went off your head, where you can't you don't even know where you are what's going on, then like just lose the whole experience, I mean a lot of times. People wake up. Well what happened yeah! Well, I mean, what's the point of death of a you, know all of the experience, if you you're so blitzed out of your head, you don't even know what's going on so allegedly during the experience of having a good time. Yeah yeah, but I mean that's, it's a it's a really wonderful way to make a living.
It's it's like literally the dream come true. You know to make people happy get to be. I always say like I feel, like I'm the chef in the kitchen making the food and I go out and I get to watch people my food and then they're like all. This is really good. I'm like I'm like yeah. You know like since I see that feeling. I'm like, let's go back and make more food, but we gotta sprinkle, more tr, full on that and then let's deliver and I get to see and then there, like, you, you're the chef like that's Maine, so like it's like, I get that luck, lucky position to be able to make my music and then share it and hope that they have the same feel thing that I have sharing it. So how many shows do you do in Vegas and how many shows you do abroad around forty in Vegas so to ten forty, a and forty year forty year? So how do you when do you there? Like? So do you still have residency
just where at Hakkasan, Omnia, Chula, so and and what republic? So this for properties that I play, which is nice? If I play forty shows in one I mean it, wouldn't necessarily be that bad because thing about Vegas. This is a transient crowd right. So it's always no matter what even one weekend I might be playing possibly three or four times for one weekend and every show. I do others a day party in a club that the club is a complete different influx of people coming in, because that the people that saw me the day prior to because he go see are more mellower. You know whoever else or Calvin Chris or whatever is playing on the strip. The competition is as thick as it gets every night. There's the big e dj's playing alongside you know each other.
It's really amazing! If you stop and think about what a crazy change that is to an entertainment environment like the Vegas, the transformation to that electronic music around, like you said two thousand and ten there's not a thing like that, you can to anywhere else in the world where, like all the sudden, this one dominant form of entertainment has taken over the entire night life of a city like other than a big. Some sort of big event: that's in Vegas, the fucking E or the UFC, or something like that where everybody comes in, to see that you guys what's up, I mean that is what's up in Vegas, it's the it dominates it. How did that? That's a crazy thing. It really is yeah when you say it like them like
and no other place like if you go to New York. If you go to LA, if you go to all places all around the world, there's no other thing that has transformed the night life of a city. The way electronic music has transformed Vegas transformed, changed. Everything went from non existent to number one with a bullet like there's, not even a close. Second, it's all electronic music Anthony Bordain used to read it. It was hilarious. He Cicchitto who's like easy. It was old and crotchety being at these places all the music, and it just wasn't his thing he still was in I guy. I love that yeah. I never, but he was awesome. Yeah miss him yeah, there's a plenty of people that that do go. Vegas like this is so annoying instance. Kids running around, like kids, but like young adults running around you know
especially the day like in their bikini. I people like that, but any case it's it's also different for the casino operators, because they're dealing with this younger generation of people to write, and they have to think differently about how they're going to get them to you know I'll, do what they guess is meant to be. Do you know what the economy's serving gambling yeah well they're, paying to see you well then alcohol sales as well getting alcohol sales of become a large large portion of their in revenue. Right. I think that's like I. I could be wrong here, but the gambling site is actually a small portion and the everything else. I think that's true. I think that shifted. I read something about that recently. That entertainment has become the primary revenue source in Vegas. Where is it used to be gambling right? But it's you know, there's there's still gambling, but if boy it's hard to just convince young people to start gamble,
yeah, it's easy to convince them to start dancing yep in now, yeah, it's like seems normal. It's natural there's also when you're young yeah, you don't have the money to just risk, but you have the money to and like experience fun, yes, you know, but when you're older you like, okay, I can I have some of like flexible income streams. I can put down as black jack what a I would've loved to seen the Sinatra days like Vegas when it was run by the mob. Let's see what that was like, you know the rat pack and Sammy Davis Jr. I just would love to be in the room and watch watch, one of those shows and then you know come to today and see how things have changed. I mean I think, that's like the Bourdain thing like he had been there when he was young and then see it changed now right. But I am fascinated by change. I don't resist it and I don't I don't say all the good old days that don't mean shit to me, I'm mostly on the same page as you yeah, I'm I'm interested in
yeah. I'm always interested the next thing. I want to try the next thing an and you know you want to enhance your experience. You want to enhance what you're doing to make it serve you better. But if you went to someone like one thousand nine hundred and eighty five, that's it hey, mom! Guess what two thousand and nineteen electronic music shit that's gonna, be everywhere. We will go. What are talking about get this guy out out here, man there's one. I did say that, though, who Jim Morrison? Did he really yeah so like he did a prediction: it's like somewhere, I'm sure you can find it, but he did a prediction where whenever he was alive, I guess I guess probably diamond seven hundred and sixty two hundred and seventy, so he said like the future will be won by one person with some sort of computer or something that's going to be device electronically or something like that and that one person will be making music for people and and performing that now watch a video. So remember, yes, I remember this now, so
I I I forgot what he said, but he said something to that effect and it's like it's crazy, because I was split. Fifty you're here play that could take you from beginning indigenous to this country are the black music blues and the kind of folk music that was brought over from Europe, and I guess they call it country, music or the kind of West Virginia Highlands. Some sound that those those are the two main streams of route american music, their lives, others on a but like ten years ago, it they called rock and roll, was kind of a blending of those two forms. I guess in four or five years the new ations music will be it'll, have uh a synthesis of those two elements and some everything will be in town. Maybe it will be, it might rely definitely on
electronics tapes. I can kind of invasion, maybe one person with uh a lot of machines, tapes and electronic setups, uh singing or speaking and using machine. Yes, what his mind says of what he can to consider is what that would be. It's. You know he did prince to print yeah, I mean where it is. You know like, I think, that's what happens when you do acid correctly get those sort of vision, yeah, because also Jim Morrison Nike. You can tell he's he's such an artist that you know he could after the doors you just be himself yeah. You know he
would have done a Jim Morrison, Album or he's made all the music he's done everything he would be exactly what he's saying he's basically predicting what he would have, in my opinion, what he would become, and he was probably twenty five in that video, which is even crazier yeah and he died at twenty seven. That's that's crazy, nuts! Yeah nuts. I mean that whole era of the nineteen sixties fat. This needs me to no end. I love the cars. I love the sound to this day. Most of the music I listen to is classic rock. I listen to a lot of new stuff, but man I will pull out some fucking classic rock. I love it. I love listening to. It is something about it that makes me makes me realize what a profound change it was between the 1950s and 1960s the culture exploded that something happened, something happened and the
put the clothes in the music in the sounds in the fucking muscle cars like everything went haywire like you went from one thousand nine hundred and fifty to one thousand nine hundred and sixty I'm just a radical shift right right, there's so many great artists, you know Hatton drink yeah. The whole idea of like like okay, now, it's time to experiment and to free ourselves from the confines of what, like you know, it's yes, yeah right, first wide open, I think Buddy Holly was great. I love Buddy Holly, but if you go from Buddy Holly to Hendrix you like what what happened, you know, that's what acid trip actually goes right, like you're say, apparently they used to put acid in his bandanna. I don't know if that's true yeah, but that it would seep into it skin, as he was playing, then he's just like, like
guitar on fire and picking with his teeth man. How much would you have love to watch that guy live? Oh yeah? That was a bit incredible to be in the presence of something completely unique. You know hippie black dude who's, the greatest guitarist of all time, still still yeah, there's no one like there's some amazing guys. Today, Gary Clark, Junior and of course you know, Steve Avon was amazing as a bunch of great amazing guitarists is not all of the documents ship, though you know the outfits, the like it's like all of the combined, not just his his technical ability. Yes, the fact that he was doing these things that you're, like you know, Charles won't, wouldn't do that. That's not part of their like you know protocol, but he was like on another world yeah and be apart
without you know, see that is incredible: complete outlier, yeah, yeah, yes and again like no one was like that before that. Go to the nineteen forties this for twenty years, nineteen forties only to meet that twenty years ago. Is you know what we're doing done with you know, one thousand nine hundred and ninety nine? That's that doesn't seem that long ago yeah, but do sixty nine to forty nine you might as will be from another world. You really as well be my eyes will be another planet. So what do you think was one of the bigger cultural shifts of why that happened? Drugs simply hun, never say one hundred percent yeah, I mean, obviously, when we talk about Jimi, Hendrix and the Beatles and the beach like. Whoever else is like jugs yeah yeah door is Joplin truck yeah drugs, the doors drugs right, everyone, drugs, the
were they were taking mind. Expanding psychedelics and the culture shifted to embrace these mind expanding psychedelics, and there was also the resistance to the Vietnam WAR. There's this rebellious movement there's these young compassionate people that were trying to figure their way through life in a way that didn't resonate with the way their parents had set boundaries and standards, and they wanted out of all of it that Goldwater Repub can ship they well. They wanted to be free in for our children and hippies and yeah and wood stock in all that craziness. You know yeah and what's amazing, is how quickly it ended. You know so many things to write so many things in the deaths and the deaths, scared people. You know like it or not the other day like when, when they're dropping at twenty seven, your heroes, Morrison, Janis, Joplin, Hendrix all twenty seven and and like they're, the leaders of experimental revolution, not good. That's going to end things pretty quick.
I think there was that there was also the sweeping psychedelic act of one thousand nine hundred and seventy that made everything schedule one and they were locking people up in jail. They were also passing laws. Direct was, it was a civil rights movement was having, in the same time, they're passing laws that were directly targeting the people in the civil rights movement because they knew that they were smoking grass and they were doing right mushrooms. I say we're going after them with these drug laws and then the you know they would arrest one person. They would turn on everybody else, and then you know they do look mom tactics, while people and now the whole thing these pour water on it. It took him took like ten or twenty years before, should sort of pop in again yeah. You know in terms of like the influence of the psychedelic culture, again real more like thirty years. You know it's like the two. Thousands were things started happening again, or people started becoming more and more aware of the positive benefits of psychedelic drugs and altered states of consciousness. Not try
going to escape reality but trying to get a grip on reality from a different perspective, but I think that's an interesting like like when I think about psychedelics in that regard of mind, expansion or you know the same time. It's like this uncontrolled situation that, like okay, we're going to jump in this world, but there's no way to really control your lane. It's just like this yeah. So, yes, we can go there. Both it might not end up. You might get stuck there. That's my problem, yeah, but that you could get stuck. You know what I mean. You hear the horror stories and that scares the hell out of you, like sky still on Astra for twenty five years, walking around that you know how to get people are chasing an asset, in particular yeah. I like shine on you, crazy diamond, and I think there's there's people that have a predisposition toward psychosis there there's
certain people that have schizophrenia in their their their jeans and their aunts and for those people it's very interest. You know what else is very dangerous for those evil. Addable marijuana not just like what you think of his hardcore psychedelics, but I've known a quite quite a few people that have eaten edible marijuana and blown fuse. Well, yeah, there's something I just recently did, which is pretty exciting for me. Once again scientific information, I'm just going to wing it button. I will I try this brain cap on okay. This has all these Nigel's like that, can read the Neuro transmitters in my brain and it's connected to a computer and you've. You sit there for about a minute and you just you kind of meditate, on the focus on one one thing, so you can start like reading your your brain, basically figure near transmission
signals um and ah it's kind of like neural feedback on steroids. If you know anything about neural feedback, umm and ah. It gave me a list of of cattle stories of what I want to know about who I am. I always thought that I had a slight a dd. I never was diagnosed because I have like if Joe Rogan's boring me I might like turn over here. You know my the my intention yeah. I know right, but I was like. I don't have that of event where I can't call to get things done, because I get things done, but I do have. I do think about a lot more things and I think I should maybe so anyways I was. I did this test and it shows like your your coming coming and it has all different things like anxiety, delusion, schizophrenia, you know attention so forth. You know absolutely
rebel. I was like okay, I'm scared press, this button, schizophrenia, really scared, but I want to know so it gives you the feeling of being no. No, no, no. No, it shows your brain activity. If you, if you have a tendency to a friend, I thought you were saying like there's a you, we feel what it feels like in the future, but, like I want to see, if I do, I have the neural pathways that that a schizophrenic person would, with you know how they would think about the world via cell. You know I clicked on that and like I'm good at all, I'm good okay good. So what about delusion? Okay, anxiety, low, okay, so I got in for now that so I guess the is why I'm sharing. That is that you know you should try this out. You think it's something that
I think you'd be interested in, but I am interested in. Do you know the name of you uh? Well, they they flew to me just like I'm saying like I love to meet groups and organizations and research, uh, searchers and scientists, and these people knew I was putting to the world that came. They flew all to me like some for Colorado, some from Toronto and and and they they did this test on my head on my brain yeah. So I'll get you information on that. Okay, try it out and see if it's something that that's like interest you, but I'm sure it will, I'm in it's very exciting stuff sounds. I hope, I'm not crazy talk. What do you do if you find out your really insane? The only put the thing on you know like you're far the end results like this before you need to be locked, then Olson people come well. You won't even know all right if you're rightly crazy, like you use, they could, like you know the five people are on the
want to chasing after you are always the real or maybe the beautiful mind guys have a bit about the problem with dumb people that are too stupid, another dumb, so they think everybody else is dumb. If it's a problem right now, so if you're crazy, you might think everybody is crazy right, even the only out like the brain scan is making you crazy is what you might think that everybody else is crazy right. Then you do the brain scan like no. No, no, it's you yeah tricking me you're, you're, doing something to me. I have you ever met people that blame everyone else in their life. Yes, all the problems, yes sure yeah, and they can't see what we can see yeah. I can see him and it's you yeah. You are causing in all of your problem. Yes, but yes, you never are self critical looking externally for all of your issues, you're criticizing
one, but you are the architect of your own to mine right and you don't even realize. I think that is one of the the the biggest problems for Slike why people are not finding their own success yeah. You know because they keep blaming other people for problems when they could use that same time to actually focus on a small success. That's realistic in their trajectory. What whatever they're doing yeah I've seen a lot with my you know some people, I know just that's it. They get stuck in that that that framework, and then there might be people that enable that same mindset, yeah it's patterns as well, like sometimes people develop these defensive patterns in order to protect themselves from reality, and they put up these psychic shields to sort of protect themselves from self critical ideas or externally critical ideas, and they just don't want to deal with change they. Don't they want to pretend that they're, the man, the coolest of the I at it everything else is dumb yeah and can
it's such a toxic way to view the world it really is, and the people that have that view gain no traction. They almost always fall apart, yeah, it's just it's unsustainable. It's not a way to live your life. Now yeah! It's it's! How hard to see two men, it's hard to see you! If you know someone, that's like that! You almost kinda gotta go out man, I'm walking away yeah and help anymore yeah, I think also for them. They see the success of other people and they're like like they want to be that but they're like yeah. You know they obviously can't with they just blame everyone that they can't be that yes, instead of just like going well, we gotta take these small baby steps to get out of this funk and then of actually, you know stop comparing yourself to other people, but very self to your yourself. Yes, yeah, look at yourself critically, but I I think another thing that's really important is to enjoy other people's success instead of being jealous, which is a really common,
easy to understand, sort of an emotional reaction to other people. Success you what the best way to look at. In my opinion, the best way to look at this look at someone else doing amazing things go. This is amazing yeah I would have done right cited by it and then be inspired exactly you can use it as fuel in a positive way and then also there's no negative feeling that that person doesn't have to feel like you're fucking, given the sour face, because you're you're, you're, jealous and bitter and and weird and you're looking to be critical of them and find flaws in them. That look at what they're doing. Like look at like, if you were a guy who's coming up right and you wanted to be a a guy who makes electro music and I'm sure you have haters- oh my god- oh my God, lined up lined up. I'm sure why why do haters, because you're fucking awesome? That's why what you're doing is fucking awesome, so
dead of saying man this guy is inexhaustible, is excited about what he's doing he's got a real passion for creating things. People love it and your attitude about making these shows and giving these people that's amazing time and how much focus and energy you put in with a hater should look at that and go this. I got gotta do more of that. I do more that I can get more investments, but instead they try to poke holes. Yeah breaking is music, but let's yeah, cakes, yeah exactly. That is a sore spot for people to so anything awesome is a sore sore spot for it's just there's nothing! You can do about that. You just have to you, got to keep on being you, but yeah them their their their health and their prison. Is that they're, focusing on yeah yeah in all the hate and focusing on yelp? True words yeah, it's some, it's weird world being an entertainer. Isn't it yeah it's a different kind of lifestyle. You know it's, you know I mean.
Actually the strange thing is when I think about like, like name or whatever is hood. When I walk through certain areas I get like, I have to disco, okay, I have to accept the photos app to accept like people coming up me. I want to be the asshole, because I have been that kid going up to someone and there would mean to me and I'll be like oh that guy's a dick. You know I think of you that way for us, even if you're, just in a bad day or day, you know, is the one that bothers me. The most is people coming up to you, while you're eating at a guy coming to me right now, last night, in the middle of, like literally cutting food and in a crowded restaurant is hovering over the table, trying to get me to get up and take a photo. So what if I did that for everybody like what, if I just write this- is a Riddick. This request, yeah, like you, shouldn't, do that? What did you say? Did you said? Ok, let's take a picture
now we're in the middle of it. Now that we're in the middle of Andrew Schultz, my buddy- and we were in the middle of talking to this guy, just interrupted the conversation wanted pictures like there's a time and a place for it. If you want to say hey when you're leaving, can I get a picture sure yeah sure? Well, you got a mouthful of food and you're cutting food and somebody come out and you can interrupt meals. That is a ridiculous that happens to me all the time. So it's stupid. But you know what really weird in LA doesn't help me that much well. My people are more accustomed to seeing famous people and they're like I don't you know they just get it on a bug using, but everywhere else la New York. I'm not really bothers much everywhere else. It's like else it's like going. I just have to accept it, but you can't interrupt people weather eat. That is just one of those things. Don't interrupt me a meeting, don't interrupt me when I'm talking to my kids, it's a stoop thing to do. You have
to have manners. You have to have some sort of an understanding that this is a human being that is living their own life and even though you're a fan of them, you're being a fan, does not take president. You can't just they don't owe you this. You can just interrupt their life and you shouldn't want that. You shouldn't want to interrupt someone in the middle of a conversation in the middle of them, the middle of talking to their children. It's a foolish way to interact with them. I remember one time I was you know in a deep verse, just like you're talking about with someone outside of ah casino, but to leave and the sky's just drunk he just like like staring in like wobbling and, like you know, doing his thing and I just see him hovering and I'm not going to engage with him. I'm just talking, and finally I'm like hey man, I'm just in the middle of conversation, and you know well,
they will get a photo later I'll talk to you later because I didn't want to, and I got done with the conversation and, and he was just a very aggressive and I just I just ran- I never ran to my car and I'm like I just don't want to get into this. You know, like he's chasing me on my my god, he's chasing me and just like fuck you. How was your fan you like tree? Do you like she does that you treat your fans like I'm like? Oh, my god, this is just much you tell it like it. It stays with you. You know like, even though I don't know that's part of the problem with biggest two yeah is that people are there at New year's Eve level every night there's like a thing for New Year's eve, but I stopped doing shows a couple years ago on New year's Eve, because every time do I was like. Why does everybody think it's okay to be an asshole tonight?
People want to heckle, they want to yell things that was like on New year's Eve. I'm just going to stay home to hang out. I'm not going to do shows it just seems too chaotic, never field. It feels like a real show. Will Vegas is like there's a lot of people that running around like every I like what happens if and they just go in crazy. It's it's such a wild place. Is a hall pass. It's like. Ok, we gotta go big, were here twenty four hour driven right, free boots. If you're gambling wacky thing going to give you a drug that fucks up your decision making and then you're going to gamble everything you have. How is that legal? How is that legal? You can be enormous sums of money and they're, giving you alcohol so crazy, but I love it. I love that it exists. I love that there's a city where everything is kind of wild, where everything is like things are over, like I play pool
one of the rare places where pool halls or twenty four hours a day, so you could play pool till five o'clock in the morning six o'clock in the morning. You know you and they'll be good players in there, and you know people really appreciate pool, and you know everything is twenty. You get good meals like really late at night. Yeah, that's that's for sure, yeah yeah, it's a wild place. It really is, but you because you're, a clean and sober guy, you avoid all the pitfalls. Yeah yeah. I think that's like how it works for me because I'm not like I'm, not a strip club guy. You know I I just I don't know. I learned my lesson on gambling. I guess that. Would you like to gamble? I did, which is why black Jack Maley and that's just the worst thoughts for you. What's the most you've ever lost a night, fifty K, Dana White, told me lost a million bucks one night yeah, I'm not at that level. Thirty one seven million and then when
one five babies as far as like kind of date is crazy, but they kicked him out of the casino they said he can't come back yeah. That's the problem! You actually when you like, do well for yourself, when the odds are act against you and they kick you out, that's crazy! Well, the crazy thing is he's just gambling he just open to win like what are we doing? Is this really gambling or you just stealing money from people? What are you doing this guy one and they like you're, not allowed to play here anymore? You know he's not stealing his Dana White, you know he's rich yeah yeah, it's not like. We always just to gamble yeah. So this is like real gambling. This not like some guy was some sort of a scheme is cheating the is doing some sing with our exactly actually and you're mad at him. Mags you lost.
They take you out. I know following the rules, you can't come back. They'll ban you from the casino yeah I almost wish I was like. Can I get to that level? That's like? Can I get there where I've just won that much um that man that interested? I don't gamble it all. I used to gamble on fights yeah um, but then I was like. Maybe I shouldn't be doing this ' 'cause I'm doing commentary on these fine yeah gambling looked of interest, but that was an early days like the early 2000s like two thousand and three and four and shit like that, because they would have some wacky numbers back then to like guys would come in from other organizations. An these odds makers didn't know who they were, and I was a fanatic, so I know who everybody was. I mean these guys are fighting in Japan. I was like everything in this mother fucker 'cause there was times
a guy was the favorite, and I was like that. Guy has no chance he's going to get a heart as hell right, and I was right, like eighty percent of my my friend all agree that I well I've given him tips guy giving tips knocks on camera myself all right, but we're like at eight eighty six percent when all right. Why stop them? Because of because you're commented told us there's no law against it, I can't affect the outcome, but I don't want to be side. Car is the psychologically I don't wanna, be subliminally influence, dry or sub, consciously influenced like downing someone to win yeah. If you've got ten thousand dollars riding in a fight, yeah you're gonna want that guy yeah. I don't care how much of a professional you are. You know when someone loses going to fuck. What are you fucking made? The whole thing is like you're supposed to be there to do justice to the experience of these two guys going at it and giving their all Russell C, hoping one guy yeah, that's true. It's also really
hard for me when a friend's fighting you know like Daniel Cormier fights is very hard for me to see him very yeah. The last fight with steep- and I love steep, a two, but to watch Steve a beat the shit out of Daniel was rough. It was hard because Daniel was a good guy. I love that guy and watch him eat those left hooks to the body and then get beaten down, also or how that must be hard. Then I'm commentating on it like it's an amazing thing, I'm watching right right. It is yeah using so it's a hard disk separate. You know when Brendan Shop was finding, it was the hardest that was the hardest, because it was good friends with him, and I knew he really didn't want to fight anymore, and I was like that. That's that's really. That must be really hard. It was running, it doesn't want to fight anymore and he just getting beaten. He was getting beaten and he was getting beaten bad and I didn't, I didn't see an end to it. Who is the guy with the nose that went Krooked? It's like this recently MIKE Perry, all that
crazy, shirts, crazy, crazy again lease on could continue fighting when their nose is literally across her face that do the savage I mean you have to be a savvy. He, like all one hundred percent bona fide dyed in the wool like he literally like imagine what he's fighting through when he has his his his nose over here is his face, has been completely numb, Boden Mono! No! No! No, I don't know, I don't really know pain massive pain. The sinus is are one of the most sensitive areas of your face. When you, your nose, shattered. First, you can't see your eyes are watering and his nose is boring blood mines getting choked right he's in the middle of getting chocolate. His nose, like is the worst fucking those I've ever seen in my life of all all the years of calling fights. The only thing that comes close is rich Franklin when he fought Anderson Silva pull up, Rich Franklin's, nose versus Anderson, Silva and you'll, see
similar, but not quite as horrific, but the thing is about Rich Franklin was bummed out about his nose. Where is you know, MIKE Perry was like fuck yeah. He didn't it. Look at the one. The far left right there far left far left far left right. There click that one, that's the one where Anderson Silva sort of reconstructed his nose, it's hard to see in that picture, make it larger so that that's his nose after yeah. It's all shifted off, so we'll see how it looks all fucked up, but that ain't shit compared to MIKE Perry's MIKE Perry's is the worst nodes in the history of the sport. Today I mean what does like now who's that guy's nose cook on that one in the middle above above, looks like drunk little bit. Jesus wow, who's fucking know like that Jesus. It went up into his forehead
yeah. His worst nose breaks in the UFC, who is that dude yeah he looks like looks like you have his nose is, is a up in his eyelids, all my god. It's just swelling right. The look of March shift Ryan Mcgillivray, who that's rough wow. Jesus Christ, awhile yeah yeah, not still smiling knows he settles. My there show gun, Show gun's nose got fucked up to. I think that was against Jon Jones, yeah Conley, better yeah man, and then you gotta get all reconstructed and they got a sort of stitch. The bones back together again and like roar 'cause. If you get this bone shatters, oh man there's not much there. You know it's such a. If you feel that bone, it's like so gentle, so delicate yeah. If you take a need
there like. Oh that's how they're breaking right, yeah he's alright. Now, let's do it looks very good damn they did an amazing job. Reconstructs eating pizza in New York Pizza. The crazy thing is his nose was look like the worst situation that you could as we get in, and his nose now looks pretty normal yeah, where the other guys is noses are just like that. One guy with the bold right by his eyebrows, like his nose, is still curved to the right and smiling like you assume MIKE Perry would have that kind of knows after that, that kind of stuff that guys, right after the fight you know MIKE Perry, had to go through extensive surgery overseas. Where was that, where is that fight take place? Uruguay? Yes, oh yeah yeah, so he had to stay there and get really extensive surgery. Was there for several days just to try to recover before we could fly home? The scary thing is, he should get back in the ring. Fuck Gary is loves it and then they both
that he's going to have, is going to break down again. Is it going to be weaker or is it going to wish? I could tell you, I don't know you know it really. Imagine if it just shutters again he's gotta. Do it again, yeah vanity Silva got his nose, reconstructed who's. What is this not a UFC but call e f c c there kicked in the face. That's the worst news ever that's where some like parallel, that's horrible! Oh my god yeah! Oh, my god, look at guys knows that's the one that crosses the other guy in the bottom of the guy who got his nose damaged somehow or another, and they grew it on his head so hard businessman. What kind of you I like hit? Training, high intensity, high intensity and you know kind of like blending too worlds. I you know I stop getting in the casino, but I love game with my friends.
I love making profits on you know just my recent one was body fat challenge, because that was a nineteen dot. Six April 14th nineteen percent yeah and then I dropped too well by the bet, was if I could drop till ten percent in three months. That's easy! Well, maybe for someone that really understands how to do that. Like you know, I wanted to there and I just like when I workout, I kind of workout just on being healthy and car vascular and just like you know, staying in shape, but I didn't. I never thought I would get below ten percent. Would you must change your diet? Yeah, oh yeah cut out sugar cut out bread cut all that stuff stay below one thousand eight hundred calories and you are you're vegetarian. Still, no, I eat chicken and fish, but I stopped eating.
I don't eat any. Ah cows, or or ah you know uh cows, pork, pig or lamb, or anything like that. But I pretty much stay with the chicken fish my proteins and are mother fucker working out looking pretty shredded way below ten percent there. What are you there? I think I'm twelve leave right there yeah I can, where you keep your fat, your brain that doesn't make any sense. You know it's in my house. I mean I'm probably where I am now because I've, you know the best ended in July Fourteenth, but I did win the bet. So I made fifteen grand for my friends. That's well, but I I you know, that's like how I am motivated to do things I like to make bets with people to have these little challenges and then, with that time line, then I you know work with my trainer who's. You know pull the whole
in the towel down and and he trains me every time, I'm home, and he gets me on my meal plans. So I deal with him all the time. Do you do like a meal prep service? I do it through his company okay. So I designed this company diced diced kitchen. I think dice kitchen is your friend huh yeah, but, like you know, he like it just gets like my assistant put in the fridge, but you know it's all like chicken and vegetables, turkey chick in fish and then then veggies and you drop down to one thousand. Eight hundred calories a day drop down to thousand eight hundred dollars today, and this is the hard part, is I'm on the road like you know more than sixty in the days when I was not touring across Europe and when I'm touring across Europe. All summer long I'm gone, so how are you getting like really healthy food every meal? When you doing this
a ground ball? You know I ball kind of my calorie count whenever I eat, and I have my my fitness pal. As my my judge, you know that my for US pals on a nap, it's a nap under armour out that, okay, that, like I just put in all my food, so you just use it to just make sure that I am eyeballing this one thousand, eight hundred calorie deficit, kind of diet, and then you know just avoid the over starchy over carby foods and focus more on eating the teens and the values. And then I take vitamins or supplements it. Yeah, like I try to try to switch it on and off. Like I said like before I met Ray, I was like ok, I need to find out what I'm deficient in I'm going to just load up on those and then I went to see Doctor Grossman, who kind of gave me my like twenty two new page pack of of my telomeres
thanks to cancer markers. If I have them, you know to like what I'm allergic to to what I'm deficient in and then and then I followed that regiment of what the vitamins I was taking, some of which was I still take like one- is called seller gin, it's kind of like a you know the closest thing to a stem cell, ah like injection, if you can, if you swallow it it's like you know, it's got this and a lot of anti aging properties in a cellar, Jin seller Jin. What is what's in it uh! Look it up and you could do your job, Rogan Research on that and give me some more, but I just trusted my doctor on this one, but it's expensive. It's like ten dollars a pill really pulled out a cell urge. Can I take a skeptical hippo face so take a website program program which yeah, so it's it's a one trillion biotics awhile! It's in that little like I take that
every day really for about therapy seller gin, my hello there. Thank you for visiting seller nice online store pop up window point. So this is what is it two thousand dollars for six months? Damn it is expensive, very expensive, and what is it back by cellular marine, complex peptide, ecology and bio D, N, a Hydro m and peptide? It sounds like you're, gonna, piss, hot sir weather in Glee, crazy good, lootin skin extracts, selenium, which is important, coenzyme Q. Ten. I take that. That's one thing that records all really pushes is that that you, ten yeah it's great for cognitive function. You fuck around with mushrooms at all I mean like healthy mushrooms, like Lion's mane, or anything like that, no really, good stuff. That's what I've been drinking. This is all lions made elixir. Try that I drink this shit, all the time.
Zte supports brain function. Yeah! That's like anything! It's about the brain! I want to know more about yeah this one, my sponsors, this is forcing manic I'll. Have them send you some of the stuff please, and then we we actually of lines mean that we put in the coffee to yeah and then layered Hamilton. Super food should be seen that coffee machine that I have on the all woman to get to some to drink all. Yes, yes, I do. Okay, we wrap this up I'll, make you a nice cup of to Merrick Coffee. Oh, I love to Mary call yeah well he's Laird Hamilton. Has this amazing machine out there that he gave us? We got one of the first machines and it's ah, he mixes
um, coconut oil, coconut milk, TRA, Merrick, organic coffee and it's fucking Delicious and is actually very good for you. Well then, he also has like this bag of mushrooms court accepts mushrooms and lion's mane scoop that in there, but Lion's mane in particular, is what I'm really interested in, because it supports brain function. You know and uh, have you seen the work of Paul stamets? Do you know we know I'll turn you on to him and send you ah linked to the podcast. I did with him he'll blow your fuckin mind when he's talking about the power of functional mushrooms, not just mushrooms, like psychedelic mushrooms, which he's into that as well. He thinks that psychedelic mushrooms in low doses are like one of those powerful new tropics that you could have like micro, dozing, yeah yeah, but instead of getting blitzed out of your mind going into another dimension, you take it just a little bit every day, just a little tiny bit, and it gives you this, like overwhelming feeling of uh operating at a very high function.
It's a weird feeling, but it's that micro dose Ing Psilocybin things swept through the fighter. Community has a lot of fighters that air training, while they're micro, dozing mushroom well yeah. It's very interesting why? You know why? Why is it trainers why well Donald Cerrone's really into it, and a few other fighters have followed suit on Donald, I think started doing it, be ' 'cause of Joe Schilling, who's, a world champion kickboxer and he's fighting for Bellator now, and they just find that there's something about
way it in Iraq's the way. The silly side, and particularly in low doses, interacts with your brain that it just seems to supercharge your ability to understand what a person is doing, especially specifically according to Joe, when he's sparring with people. He says he, like almost like, read their minds: wow yeah, that's really interesting, yeah, very, very interesting. I know a lot of people a lot of skiers, skiers like to micro dose. It's becoming this AA thing where people try to take like ah functional amount, so like you're, not getting blitzed you just take. It is a functional, not that's a good question,
good question: it tastes like a like a stand like a little drop. Now, that's even mean the best way to find out what it would be would be to grind it up. So you know the exact ounces and then right in a capsule yeah and then figure it out. I think that's what a lot of these guys are doing. It is very unfortunate that that is a schedule. One drug yeah, because right a natural life form that grows on earth. It's a fungus beyonce on a drug yeah and it's got some pretty potent positive qualities to it right, but outside of so anything that psychoactive or psychedelic that lions mane stuff. Is this shit? Well, let's put it in water right now then come on son. He will baby. It's gonna, be a it's going to be a musk smoking weed moment right now, sort of nobody gets high off lions. Man could for you, oh thank you um, so
so other than that other than this sell stuff. What is it again? It's called cellar job. I wish I had like my someone from my team gonna. Give me my whole list, because I take something for brain cognitive stuff that our pics that I'm not some might can be considered that way. But it's for my doctor that you know from what I do enough research to on a doctors and they tell me kind of what I should take him and I go okay. Let's try this out to see. If and like you know, my by performance increases and then I stopped so I'll. Do it for like a month and I'll stop and I'll take a different like you know, I have like two different routes of vitamins and I take a different see if that changes that patterns, my how
um you know what my performance is like and I kind of like just experiment. Over and over again have you ever done: isolation tank floating in a yeah. I love that. Do you do that? I did it twice, it's very new to me, but it's like it's incredible yeah! You need one of those in your life. Yes, she can then you're crazy, fun house. I know I was thinking about that. There is one place in Henderson where I live. That does that. So I was going to first. Do that. First, there yeah do it man we have one here yeah I mean like the last two years, like the ice plunges and just learn, but when half method I love that love is amazing. I I never met him in person, but it's great yeah yeah, I know, is in your in your lane. Friends he's a character. Man yeah I've seen the documentaries like that's what the vice documentary that guy doesn't watch diet at all drinks. Beer needs spaghetti like he's fuck
in particular. He doesn't give a shit goes to Everest, fucking barefoot, client, Separase, climbs Everest Insurance is like it's too easy, but he gets other people deal with him. Show that, like anyone could do that yeah, it's incredible! Here's a unique human being like a real through, truly unique human being and in the sense that he's just took caught talking about breathing he's on talk about doing some sort of incredible athletics that you know of rare few people can achieve now is talking about concentrating on your breathing in understanding how you can inhale feel like deeper breaths and concentrate on the breath in that in doing so, you're changing your physiological state and he's got a whole program that shows you how to do it correctly. Enhances your immune system enhances your awareness and wild shit, incredible yeah yeah I mean I try to do
that. Broth work whenever I possibly can at this too people that I've worked with that that train, underneath when one of them is in New York as Spain. So whenever I'm in my orca, Spain, I meet up with him, we do the breathwork holding breath sizes and then we do the ice ice and- and I have one that's based in San Diego, this woman and she comes up to Vegas and then I'd like to do the group dynamic ice bath. So I have this like pool: that's not an ice bath but fifty degrees. So it's cold enough to like feel it. Let's fucking cold, exactly so get like whoever wants to join me, but you, like this group kind of huddle we get getting there become out. We do the breath. Work hold your breath. You know, and it's a great way to get people together and experience them like that too. No, that's awesome and the UFC Training Center of the Performance Institute in Vegas has a hot bath right next to a cold plunge in the
people going back and forth between the two of you have been to that place. Yeah I shot my music video. There excited Bruce buffer featuring a song online called it's time so where did bring that up for their because you're so tied in with? U s c, but we shot the video there. I was trained to fight the other dj that we I mean the song with and and Bruce he was trying to fight a dj. Well I mean the video is like video you're trying to find the right at USC facility, this legendary UFC Fighter space in his name. He was training me so kind of cool to have him there with what you look like. Well, if you put up pick up the I run and views about the yeah sure sure go ahead here, we go so we're watching it on the video Aoki verses. Luke is Bruce Buffer, so who's training. Him, though, there's these people
running around Bruce Buffer, who is ah who's, training him. I don't see any UFC guy training him, but you keep jumping ahead. We're not going to see not focusing on there it's too quick, but who is that? Oh, it's KEN Shamrock ceremony! Oh eventually, oh there you go, can share mark screaming in his face with sunglasses on he's a trip isn't a he's, a very interesting guy.
Cake me, oh my god, that's a where's, okay, ism! It's it's so interesting when you see all these different people of these different paths in life and you go. Oh okay, you could go down that path to eat out like the Steve Aoki PATH is so different than most paths, and I think that one of the cooler things about talking to people as you, you get the sense that the the the way you can live your lives, not as rigid as people would have you believe, did have you believe that there's only a few different ways to go about this. This is not that much variability, we're saying nice things about you. He just returned watch. It was KEN Shamrock. He was all yeah yeah. He was like you know when you do that when you're out like it was Hank, this is like slot my stomach and stuff right. Now
we watch net sunglasses screaming match up exactly. Do you do any martial arts training of you know? Strangely enough, like my, my biggest hero, growing up is bristly, so you know in the beginning, I started want to learn. You can dial in the you know. Did you see once upon a time in Hollywood? Not yet there's a scene in there, that's very negative about Bruce Lee. I love the movie. I really enjoyed it, I'm a huge Tarantino fan, I think awesome, but this is controversy around that. I didn't see that very, very controversial 'cause. He made Bruce Lee, look like a buffoon that sucks really arrogant, buffoon well, and I don't think there's any evidence that he was ever really like that yeah, but now he Tarantino sort of dug his heels in and sort of defended it. But I don't think he knows the culture because he's not a martial artist. I think he looked at. I think he looked at Bruce Lee sort of like this historical figure. That's you know, kicking people
classes in movies and I think to understand obviously the way you do or the way I do where he was my childhood hero as well. So, like he's the guy, that's really responsible for mixing martial arts. When you talk about mixed martial arts, like all credit, has to go to the Gracie's, because they're the ones who you know- Allison, Gracie and Jorien and and Hicks In- and that family was responsible for really going people, JU, Jitsu and also Hori and invented the UFC. So without Jorian and his contributions, we might not have ever known what we know today, but Bruce Lee was on that path. Hello, yeah long time ago, yeah. He had figured out a long time ago that you gotta find what's useful in all different styles of martial arts. Exactly it's also deeply entrenched in full, possibly out in he was a brilliant guy, so they made him. Look like this buffoon and that's our
and in light, that's like one of the main things. I personally that I loved about him is that his his philosophy and a lot of things to say about life, yeah that the martial arts was one thing. That's like what made him cool made him such a bad, but it's his philosophy. The words behind all that yeah, how it it can reflect on everyone be like water, and the best part for me is that he is an asian face, because I mean at the end of the day you think about what out there in the in the media and popular culture, you don't see an asian faces for, let's loved in all different ethnicities, yeah he's the number one he is the the it like every does about if you're black, why right brown, purple, yellow whatever you are? You like yeah, you have to honor like one of the greats everybody likes Bruce and he's asian, so he represents something very powerful for asian people going to chinese dudes got laid because of Bruce Lee
Equity, FUCK man, the numbers, probably, if you think about the main, like how many chinese people that got laid with non chinese food- oh yeah, that's like because at the end of the day is women, love Bruce Lee everybody, everybody everybody and there hasn't been someone like that. You know that. Has that striking feeling? That's asian popular culture like that you know, so I also like the first guy that was really shredded in movies. Now we take a shirt off now. You definitely got that stands. That is just like yeah. He was fucking shredded and you would look at him and you go God that guys bodies ridiculously everybody wanted that body. He wanted to be lean and muscular, and that's where I got my room for at my house that Bruce game of death right is that a dragon this end of the dragons. As for me, I got the mirror of end of the dragon, but
the army, air room scene is way more mayors, like kind of moon in different degrees. Yeah it was, it was enter the dragon right out, yeah dragon fog. That was a good movie and for the time, those movies you know people don't like them or do like them. What's interesting about this is the style of fighting in those movies like jumping flying, kicks and all that stuff. That's not what he advocated at all. He did that purely for the cinematic value, but he wanted to make it exciting and flashing. He was all about different people, the knees and a bunch of people that throat like he was about, like really effective techniques that you could use to end a fight in seconds. That was what he was all about, but what he did do was there was like two big bursts in martial arts and Bruce Lee was responsible in my opinion, for the first he was responsible for getting people excited about training, martial arts and seeing
this guy that could kick everybody's ass and like this guy was like he was quiet and humble, but you know when it came time to throw down and take a shower, often fuck everybody up, and then the next stage was the UFC. Those are like in my lifetime too big, really, culturally. The two big leaps in martial arts was people getting into Bruce Lee because of getting into martial arts 'cause. It Bruce Lee movies and then of course, Chuck Norris movies, and then the next one was getting into martial arts because of the UFC so was bomber. It was a bomber that they made him, look like a dope that sucks not that I'm excited to watch that movie, because I thought that Percy was gonna. Look like about us in the in the trailer like. Oh no, Bruce Lee's in there like it's gonna, be cool with with Brad Pitt in order to Caprio Quentin Tarantino's is going to be epic fucking
great move, you don't let it hold you back is the movie's funny shit. I really enjoyed it. It's a fun like I, like all his movies, I loved hateful eight, a lot of people, don't like hateful and I loved it. I think his movie, sir, if you're into like a Tarantino movie like I like his style of make home fiction, Django yeah there, while yeah they're great deals, yeah absolutely great films, such offense. I'm just glad he's out there, because it's like there's more there's moments in that movie, where I don't want, I'm not going to give anything away, but this moments in in Hollywood. Where are you going? I can't believe you could still do this in a move on this day and age like you're allowed to do that in the movie. He goes hard in the paint,
but the Bruce Lee things you know whatever you could do. It wasn't real the real Bruce Lee's with yeah interesting, exciting to me right now I mean that's word like my. My record label Dimock it's. You know. You know the market yeah. I mean it's not necessarily tied grisly, but it's my my way of of, like you know. Instead of calling a Bruce Lee records where I love Bruce Lee Records, I was like well. This is this mysterious death touch, and you know there's like that. This mystery around that that's connected sort of to Bruce Lee, there's yeah. It would be really interesting if there really was a dim mock like a mysterious yeah death touch if it was, it was really but people believe in and if you're see those videos on on when the internal mandatory and people who fall down yeah. That is a big dojo. Life on Instagram is kind of of load. Of this guy just collects a mall and there's so many of their so ridiculous. I posted one a couple of days ago
of this site. It was again I keel guy and he's just like doing this. Like watched watch, this video card comes out as like portions of a oh, I miss you fall down so standing like this. All you fall down. Look at him. You wow the ground while to power here it's over yeah, it is playing playing. He believes it it's so so fuck! It's like this evangelical preachers that, like they touch, we've had in the guys like falling over and they're all practicing. It look like they're all practicing all this nonsense. That will get you killed in a real yeah and these guys were leaving their house they're putting on their fucking outfit right, really think that this is real. This is actually happening, yeah, it's so corny. It really is what you gonna do.
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