Jocko Willink is a decorated retired Navy SEAL officer, author of the book Extreme Ownership: How U.S. Navy SEALs Lead and Win, and co-founder of Echelon Front, where he is a leadership instructor, speaker, and executive coach. His podcast, The Jocko Podcast, is also available for download via Apple Podcasts & Stitcher.
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You have. You brought me to talk about this as you leave now about how they do have why every man word about which shows how fucked up everything is. There's a lot of then get out there are now. Apparently I just don't mean it seems like a perfect storm. You wanted to engineer the downfall of society. You wouldn't do it in several steps, you a reality show president, where nobody's Madame and then all the liberals get there feathers in a rough and everybody gets real super up tightened, and then this is big Dave between the left and the right. That's kind of manufactured and you'd have this disease just lock, everyone inside unprecedented, lock, shut down the economy force people do not work. So if your business falls apart, you could be the most hard work and diligent discipline person whose always at work our early, always as your eyes died in your teeth.
Are you still go broke. You still fucked, and then you have this George Floyd thing and then bomb it just ignites the powers, the other thing that you have the wrapper around all this is this social media, which is, you know, Only gonna posts, things that are just gonna completely make everyone it sees wherever imposing emotional and and filled with Ray whether you're on the laughter you're on the right, my goal, is to enrage people than the and then not just gets on up over an overseer taken all these little incidents and your mom applying times thousands and thousands of views, and on top of that may stream. Media the same thing right. It's not like theirs is huge difference between what the mainstream media chosen. What social me they're, both its most emotionally emotional media, just trying to make people national, which is the way possible. Think no one makes good decisions when their emotional. No, I spent my adult life
trying to train humans to not get emotional in pressure situations. Why? Because it's gonna end up bad every single time every single time, and yet that's but our that's. What our societies based on right now, but it's based on these emotional reactions yeah because of social media, thank and because of things like you, tube and user, created content, or anybody can kind of make videos. So many things are vying for folks attention that man history, media has resorted to click, baby cut type shit. What its New York Times, articles which you know used to beyond reproach that there ve gone social justice, warrior and click baby, and all these other websites are a hundred percent click. That's the only way to get people to pay attention like I saw them. The dumbest fuckin article I couldn't believe how does it was? It was an article on Ozark. Is like has Ozark been cancelled and, unlike factor cancel that show. That shows amazing. So then click on the article-
your entire articles about a guy who couldn't find season one on Ozark, because there was a glitch and then he found it in let's not so the whole article- was just bullshit there, but they got me they get out but to get you to collect the advertising dollars because they can show the engagement with the audience exactly well. Here is a good one. Cnn show owed a guy got shot yesterday in San Bernardino hispanic man got shot in San Bernardino. So that's the title, the title of the article is hispanic, man gets Gandhi. By the police in San Bernardino, would they leave out? Is the guy had a gun and was shooting at the cops. So this guy's got a gun, there's photo. Of this gentleman with a gun and there's a cop. His knees about to shoot the guy, the guy standing in front of a gas station whose gas pops I mean, I mean, maybe fellow, they wouldn't shoot item, because the gas tanks were right behind him. That, though the
forever on? But why would leave them out. Guy, with a gun in gunfight with cops dies is the right title: not hispanic man gun, Down by cops, they literally trying to incite anger in violence. They know that you read that and you see hispanic man shot by cops like these motherfuckers, their murderers, they won't stop and they leave out this picture of this man with a gun pointing it. Are you looking at me like I'm, going to say some kind of really profound answer? I got nothing for you because, because of your ear, exactly right, that what is why do they set up that headline? For it's a rage. People to anyone that actually opens up and regions would actually pro please say something like sounds like the cops- did a good job on that one and killed a bad guy before he blew up a gas station in her A bunch of innocent people, but that's that's obviously, I think if you try to write a headline, the other way, how these heroic cops man with gun eliminate,
before he can cause terror in this neighborhood. That would be a nice pad to read but you're, not gonna, see not today because Knocker DR enough, crazy today, if your wife tweets all lives matter. You can judge. You know this they will have to be you anymore, all lives just imagine time were saying lives matter is so. Controversial that you can get fired, that didn't happen to soccer players, something yes, a soccer players, wife, tweeted, something like that. The guy who runs the kings or the guy, was the comedy. For the king, they fired him, you know, and then this is the line, It is this right, so people Our feeling a certain way and they're not they're, not like this girl that wrote all lives matter. You think that was her clandestine way of showing that she's all about white pride. You don't know me
now she was making hey everyone. Matters is partly haven't, submits thought, though she's, but then all this. I know this chick is evil right for doing this and I think, there's a lot of that. I think a lot of people that I think most people are pretty sane I think most people are pretty reasonable. I think, if you know anybody looking it at that George Ford case like yeah, that's completely wrong. That's disgusting! It's horrible changes to watch I haven't heard anyone say other anything other than that, so Were we just getting so completely divided on this whole thing? Is art attacking people start attacking each other just over? Absolutely everything! That's a good point, because this is literally a case where no one is safe. There's nothing wrong with their coptic, no one, no one, zero people, zero people But yet everybody still at each other's throats zero people have have stuck up like I, in any way shape or form even law enforcement, no law enforcement
so you can understand. This is control a man gotta lean on his neck. For about eight minutes. Forty, forty, forty five, forty six, I have one say Fourthly, what you know, what do you know they're saying they're saying defined the police spare they're, saying no more chokehold right I think it's great he's crazy. If you want to get someone to be under control and you can't choke them. You know you have to do You have to hit him on the head with a baton, seven times when you got a risk, even a brain damage permanently injuring em. If people know what they're doing I mean Obviously, if people know what they're doing what a joke on, but the wake up they'll be coughed, we're all good you're. Obviously you know it's the people that are doing wrong, the problem, the people that shouldn't be doing in the first place, it's untrained people it, but a fury. If you're in you're a cop and you're a fight for your life and you can't use chokehold, that's
fucking, Creighton, saying you're gonna get shot and killed or something he's. Gonna get shot and killed, someone can take your gun and and the idea of defined the police, and I I understand the premise. Okay- and this is once again where many people that's. Define the police, they don't mean: hey, just get rid of police. Of course, there's a there's: a fraction of people that are saying give on a police means we don't want any more police anymore. There's a proportion. Peoples are not there's. Some people are saying: well if we defined the police can relocate some of that money, and we can do you know better. Schools and weaken, put money into the infrastructure inside these neighborhoods, but here's the problem You know what the police need more than anything else. They need money for training and, though the way the, These departments are set up. They do the most ridiculously minuscule amount of training for what their job is. So as noise and seal teams, we would train for eighteen months. Eight,
months, we were trying to go on a six month. Opponent cops they train, they like two hours or four hours of combat if training a year a year that that's that's complete in Kennedy in San its complete insanity, the I've been saying is hop should train one fifth of the time. One fifth of the time you should be training whether its two hours a day four times a week. One day a week, we're gonna go and you're gonna go through scenarios. You're gonna do combative, you're gonna work with simulation you're gonna do do. Escalation. Drills because it's really I mean it being a cop is, I think, is the hardest job in the world and by the way, the knock enough to worry about defending the police, because no one's gonna wanna be a cop anymore. Who is gonna, be fired up to be a cop right now, who's gonna think you know what, when I grow up wanna be hated by
entire you by massive portion of the country. I want to be viewed as someone that's That kills innocent people did take the the recruiting in cop for four, please gonna go down so art, it's gonna, be ridiculous, like us and then who you getting there. You're gonna get people that are worse level. People worse level. Humans are no shop to be cops so that raining peace though they should do very very scenario: driven training right where you come into a room, and this isn't like super expensive stuff. Either you come into a room, there's a person there. They appear to be compliant. You ass, you, you won't. I'll talk to you very quickly, learn that instead of yelling amount of the out of the gate, you say: hey man, what's going on here, What's your name, you know what's going on, we gonna call here is everything: ok, each immediate be de escalate Then you learn what to do when they are not. When the note
spawned the way you want him to respond. Then you learn what to do when they start to do something. Drastic. What's the best thing for you and you play, through these scenarios, it's just like you too, in the fact that what what makes just good what they should do to goods with no hard against each other over and over again, and not really get hurt, not really get killed, so you get really good at it. That's what you mean. To do in training for police. You need to go through these tough scenarios over and over again cause you do get better at it. You do get better at it. You become you learn how to mentally detached and not get emotional and realise that there are other things that are happening. When you see the the George Ford CASE a couple either cops to adding to the other guys we're complete rookies right. They ve been on force for a very short period time, no one in that group of four. Obviously you got the killer himself. He's he's. Actually conducting the act but all the the guys are not pay
attention, they're, they're, all emotional themselves, hasty back in and they're. Probably watching him soon. What's wise neck, I moving and they're just caught up in it, whereas if someone were to show up on the scene or one of those guys had been through some good training in their life. They were set what's happening here on my part, no there's been on this guy for two minutes he's not anymore any more on walk over into hey man. Let me take over. I got this dick go over there decompress. This takes training, you have to train people, and I got I saw this. Over and over again in the seal teams, training guys you get a young that's coming through training for the first time and they go into a room in their didn't shot with simulation. Bullets are there's someone Yelena screamin or that we put we'd put. Big women come and walking out of rooms. We'd have people get blown up with wounds. We would do this. Them over and over again, so they realize ok, he's gotta, relax. I've got to take a step back, I gotta detached. This situation. So I can process what's happening and I can make a good decision because
As I said earlier, no one is making a good decision when their panicked, when winter freaked out when there scared, as get your guy, when, Someone puts hands on you, you're, not actually scared right, you're like no ok. I know what to do here. If you dont know you did if you ve never had someone grab before or you haven't, had someone grab you in seventeen months fourteen months no one's laid hands on you cause. You got a bad and again so people? When you don't do some ninety five percent of time they go. Ok, gonna wanna get in trouble, but then somebody grab you you're insane May your your emotions are spike. Your adrenaline spite and the the way to overcome that is through consent, the training that that happens. On a regular basis. You can't just this would be one time. It's a ring. Rust You can't just trains, everyone time and are now. I don't need a training more. No, you need do continuous training, so so that fact right there we, if we wanna group. If we want to help the police through these situations, we need to end best more money into them. We need to get them
better training? We need to. Pull them out of the field to trade. And pull them out of the field to decompress, because you ve done a ride along now like you What are you doing ride one, whether going into any situation where you're thinking you could be killed and even just a remote chance, but you're doing that, all the time all the time, and you're here and you're, seen on the news, your oh you hear this yo, your body got shot. Your buddy got whatever the other guy got. You take these on taken away like that stuff happens, that stuff happens, people get killed. I mean there's been I think, he's been thirty. One cops killed this year. Thirty one cops killed this year and a lot of those. That's not including you know, like a car accident or covert. There's been a bit. Died a covert, but just people that have been engaged with bad guys,
and they got killed. Sir you're, a cop when another copy gets killed your thinking that could be So that's your mindset and that mindset builds in that mindset, build and your work and ten our days in your work and twelve hour days and theirs training and there's no brakes Where do you end up right? Where do you end up? You end up being a little bit paranoid. You end up being a little bit angry. What happens when you get in a fight with your wife? You know it's like all these things you Adam together. It's a freak in hard job and from a from it like an entire. Systemic way of training in recruiting and and being police ready to do their job or whatever that job entails cause, let's face it the time that a job entails. Well, I guess
The time it entails. Hey, I'm going to have a bad about to go, have a bad relationship with another human being doubts about the happened right, whether in Poland you over whether I've been called to your house cause you were yelling and screaming, and people heard your wife's screamin or whatever that's what tat I'm showing up in a bad relationship You don't like me, and I don't like you, that's where we start. That's where we so we got a train people for that. We also got a train and for all the times that they go in to help people save people first people on the Messina car accidents. People are bleeding We got a train him for that, and then they have to so be trained for hey. This is a bad guy. That's gonna! This is the guy. Did you just talk about at a gas station with a weapon that wants to kill a bunch of people. You gotta be proper. For the whole spectrum is a police officer, and yet we and two or three months. On police Academy, and then we sent the street and that's what they do day in day out day in day out.
It seems to me that they need to be vetted too much better than they are now. Just like the seals, you can't get through buds unless you are a superior human being. You have to be able to tolerate a bunch of shit that most people gonna fall apart during, and this is this seems to me that this is a great way to weed out people that just don't have it. Yeah there's what one thing that's interesting, just from a physical perspective, most policed I don't even have a minimum physical requirement to continue to be Firstly, you have to be at a certain level to graduate from the academies, but often there's no standard beyond that yeah I've seen cops before the real like this is hilarious, like what is going stop swung from closing the distance on you like you. Then too that gun, but the mental aspect is stuff that you can get better at. Yes, you can get better.
But you only get better at it through training right and you only get really comfortable through training a lot? And yet we put these people in horrible positions over and over and over again- and we get- we don't you in the proper training. Now there's as politicians that, because of the current social climate, there encouraged to want to defend the police, that's a great way for them to get brownie points from their constituents. The people were the police to funded, which is that what it's, the dumbest idea, I've ever heard of my life, its so called easy that this is actually gaining steam to the point where it in Minneapolis, because they're trying to kid. Down the mob baby, actually gonna hadn't done it. What the fuck is Minneapolis gonna look like in a year from now. It's can look like mad max,
I'm is going to be crazy. That's going to be it's going to be crazy. It's going to be you know. Criminals will go there to commit crimes. If there's no, if there's no police there are you crazy by the way is Jocko Energy drink? yeah. I just don't understand where they think this game ends than I don't think they ve planted out there not plant chess, the the other, the other thing that you know you're talkin about this brownie ports for them, decisions in and there's brownie points and there's people try. To create sides. My side, your site and that's a completely political thing right and all that does is increase the divide between the police and the civilians and- and this reminds me a lot of other counterinsurgency right to counter it,
urgency. The insurgents are no bad guys inside of a country. The countries not bad, there's some bad guys in a country so you have to do. Is you actually have to go out and build relationships with the good people in? I'd that country so that the good people side, that country can help you get rid of the bad people. What happens if you go out and so this is Romania practice this, but my last opponent to Iraq there's a bunch of totally normal good people, iraqi people that living in the city of Romani. What do they want to do? you know what they want to do they wanna to kids, all they want to run their little mark. They want to do whatever they do is did he do that we want to do they have the same goal. Is a normal family there, just a normal bunch of people and in That group appeal there's a bunch about people, and these are certain some more foreign fighters, some of our foreign regime elements from Sudan, but their bad, and they want to create ass. May him so a man.
Can we go in there if we go in there? super heavy handed, and while I go to capture or kill one bad guy I kill, or maybe a couple of those normal civilians. What happens when a couple, normal civilians. Family go wait, you guys aren't good, you guys are bad. You guys just killed, my brother, he didn't do anything wrong and then we do it again and then we do it again and then we do it again. And each time that we do this, where we are creating more animosity from the local populous who, by the way, like I said there, are just not good normal people see What we had to do is really focus on going out and building relationships with the local populace how do we do that in one of the things this this happened after I left? you remember the surge that took place in the center bunch more troops over their part of the reason that they sent
surge in part of the reason that that was allowed to happen was because the battle Romani, where I fought, went very well and since it well, people said well, maybe maybe can pull this off, so they sent more troops and one of the directives that general portrays gave is he said there can be no more drive by counter insurgency and what he meant that by that was when you go to a neighborhood, he had just drive through the neighbourhood in your humvee in your bullet proof humvee with your windows up, drive through show of force and then leave that that doesnt work. What you have to do is stop your vehicles. You have to get out. You have to talk to the look Popular strive to ask. What's going on, you have to ask if they need anything you have to Build relationships with the local populist, the good local populace that just wants those insurgents out there and that's what I don't see happening and the more we increase. Divide between police and the civilians the worse that
gonna get, and so the police have to start a better job of outreach of hay. Will you know I asked you: if you get a ride along, they should offering right along all the time, till the two local kids, seventeen year old, kids, fifteen year old, hey come and see what my job is like come and help me out that fifteen year old kid he Those who the bad actors are. He knows with a good kids are you know, bring that killed, all right along. Let him see what it looks like from your ankle. Get out meet the parents meet the families. That's where we're failing to build relationships between the police and the civilians, and that causes that that that Call- it is these problems, I think you're a hundred percent correct, but I don't hear anybody repeating what you say. That's was terrifying to me. I think everything you're saying, is logical and makes sense. It comes from experience on a hearing but he sameness the out
and I well. I think, maybe it's because people just don't recognize what's happening. Is there too in it right there too, in it there, the wrapped up in it and and that's another part in our talks- recruiting who you recruiting recruit. Those kids recruit those kids, but you have to build a relationship with them before you can add before any one's gonna go to the police and looked, I think it's there I think that the delay police department, if you look at the L Police Department, compared to the racial make up of allay they they're pretty equivalent and they're pretty equivalent on purpose. They do that for a reason, so you gotta get that you gotta continue to build that those relationship so that we talk to one another no, we actually communicate with each other, because any time I'm you know, I'm allowed to sit over here in my admire you're sitting over there in your area, where building animosity we build that kind of animosity between each other and now the littlest thing, the littlest I mean there was a woman that was
killed in Minneapolis tooth years ago to remember this one. Yes, female yoga instructor called the police. The police called the police report, a disturbance. Please showed up and there's no video footage. She gets killed by the cops she gets killed by the cops it's insane. That is that these things happen, but we also have to remember what, like I said, what is a police officer thinking about and what kind of training and would give them, and what kind of psychological screening to your point, what kind of striking- and it's not just one time psychological shrink screening, because guess what people get burnt out? happens at different times to different people. You take thirty five. Of guys in combat I've, got some at the end of a six month deployment there, you know what you're telling me can I stay longer, I'm doing fine, you get one month under that deployment you ve got other guys. There are saying: hey, do you need anyone to head home early right that happens, so you
in a police force of a thousand people or whatever size, your police forces? You can have some? well, that our steady mentally stable they can deal with it. They can go. They can they can do being an officer involves shooting today and tomorrow they can go back their job and beat perfectly fine, there's other people there. Never work again after their noster involves shooting what kind of, investment. Are we making into this a collage health of police and look I hope it doesn't sound like I'm sitting here, just putting it all on the police, because everyone is playing a role in this and one of the things You need to look at as well as how to get arrested right there, be a public service course on how you should get arrested. This is what you should do. If the cops are pulling, you over. If the cops ask you, if the cops approach you about something, here's what you should think one of the things you should think. It's ok, this cop may not be back,
This cop may be looking out for my welfare right now. That's a great hopeful thought, the other thing that you have to think is kind worst case scenario. This cop might be agitated this common be looking for somebody that fits my description, this caught my body just in a fight with his wife, he might just lost a party there's a million bad things, use scenario in your head use, that sneering your head to to contemplate how you're going to interact with a police officer which, as you know, what they're looking at looking at your hands, you know why, because that's where the threat comes, on the threat comes from your handsome when you're making quick movement. Would you had don't do that know what they say: move slowly, when you move this should be published, the police should be putting out hey if you interact with the police, we hate to have to say this, but since our police sometimes or in bad situations here so things. We recommend and we highly suggesting we beg. We beg that you do this. We beg
because what happens to these cops when they kill somebody? What happens them they're there I'm sorry to totally destroyed without was a thing about that guy in Minneapolis HEAT or to kill. People had already been involved in a think. It's at least two shootings and he had more than a dozen complaint against him. Yeah now good. Nodded is obvious by the end, but the end result that's the type of guy. He was pretty obvious by the fact that he was able to do that to man the guy's literally calling out his dead mother. You know I mean that that the type of man Amanda can stay on someone's neck, while they're doing that when all dead guy did was a counterfeit twenty dollar bill, that's it. This is where, when you talk about psychological, new screening and that's why I'm saying it has to be out of the constant because people, people change your right and red flags.
I mean, like you, said hindsight: twenty twenty we're looking at his case now about who the hell, let's this guy, continue to police. And by the way, interestingly enough, if you talk to internal affairs at police departments, the vast majority of complaints that they get about other about police are from police, so they company they report each other. That's little known fact. Most the most reports don't come from The civilians out there saying hey this happened. That happened, motives cop, saying, hey guy was out of line here. Will that's that's a good sign? Is it just? Doesn't look rose when I'm looking to the future- and I don't see a way during this climate What what scares me the most is, I dont see away. If we don't talk to each other, that That's where there is no solution, because you look for every ten. Viral video that you see other of a cop hidden and somebody with a baton, or
I'd or frozen something through window for every ten of those viral videos. There's another viral video that has you know the guy, with the free hugs t shirt on that's out talking to the cops insane hey. You know I get it and their communicating with each other and talking and when you communicate with its just like a hot, did, rescue basic technique. You want to humanize, you want Humanize, instead of dehumanize in right now, just dehumanizing each other completely and that's what scares me more than anything else is. If we can't talk to each other, because look you too the most hardened soldier in war. Some You know some bad ass order. This done for deployment six deployments whatever, and you put him in. To a room with a kid in a mom on iraqi kid, your Mama and have Afghan, get him up and You put him in that room and say hates sit here for fifteen minutes and find out what their about here's an interpreter that black eyes come out of our gone yeah I get where they're coming from
same thing. Vice versa, you take a hardened. Not, as you say, hey talk to this guy over here about what he should do inside your country with disgust just talk to him. Would you open up the communications and are you gonna get some extremists on both ends? Yes, you will so maybe I should have said the most hardened Roger in the most hardened cause that deal with the most hardened soldier becomes a killer becomes a killer that that happens happens all the time. You know I I I, since it happens, all too It happens from time to time. That's how you get the meal I masker. It happens that for most hardened jihadist they're, not to change their mind, they're, not containing any rose colored view of America, but barring those total extremes, you ve got people, you got you their human beings and if you can get them to talk to each other, they can fly consensus. They can find common ground, but if they're not talking to each other, then we
move, it make any progress and what to your whole kind of point about what's happening right now, there's lots, and less communication between people open communication, because if you, if you talk to someone, they say. The cops did this this in this and you say: oh ok, explain to me what happened. Tell me what went down and then use hey. Let me tell you what it's like for beef before a cop being a cop when he he's that when you see something going on you, how many domestic violence cases happened, and the person shows up in there they're getting assaulted by both parties. So Maybe that's what you this cop was thinking. We showed up and saw your mom in this situation, and did this to your dad right that, like this, is real conversations, but we don't. We don't have em, and now we don't. It seems like it,
seems like there's forces that are actively trying to prevent us from talking to each other from sitting down at a table and saying hey man. What tell me what's going on what forms who wants who wants the country to be divided into the people it you're talkin about earlier than that? How do they score points? How do I score points with this group? How do I spoke score points with the other groups by making making everything is divisive as possible, it's it's it's horrible, the watchmen sickening to watch. I was reading a wholesome The tweets were the journalist that was talking about how
cops. Shooting black man is a real problem, but another real problem, that's not being discussed by this black lives matter. Group is black on black crime and how do we stop all the murders that are taking place in Chicago, and this is something that should be discussed and this guy was getting attacked and one of the one of the another journalist literally tweeting at him saying you have been told not to discuss this, but yet he ignores the commands that that he should not discuss is a very real issue, the as, if somehow or another, bringing up another issue. That is also a problem diminishes the original issue of this guy getting killed by cops, which, of course it does. But this the ideas that those problems is real problems. It's not just the cops killing these people there.
Just look at the cup killed this guy in Minneapolis. He didn't do anything in Seattle. How the fuck did that should happen in Seattle might happen in Seattle, because this reactionary world, where it was one person does something somewhere. It gets through social media gets through The mainstream media becomes this, this huge, inflammatory subjects, and then the next thing you know, windows are getting smell, as things are getting lit on fire cars are getting turned over, blocks are getting taken and that's where we find ourselves. I think it was made twenty night there was a cop killed, I want to say in Texas, And he was killed. When did they rolled into a scene? They got bigger. All hey suspicious person running through the neighbourhood. There upon the scene. They start coupled. A few cops are now searching for this guy and they see a building with an open door. They go
at least that maybe he's in there, let's go clear this building an open door. They go in his one open door. There, shots fired one, the cops killed, one, the other crops so owed. So so just you know friendly fire death that right there. If you, if you take that, just extrapolate that over how hard it is to be a police officer that you can be going into a building- and you shoot one of your friends, because you think they're bad- that is a real problem. That's how hard this job is. My point is that's how hard this job is, but we have to do a better job of explaining that we have to do a better job of explaining how hard this job is. As far as the pay don't talk about black, gone black violence.
I was trying to. Second, with my podcast bro ECHO Charles, who is a black eye- and we are talking about that and I you know, I think it might have a little bit to do with this issue, or if you watching you have seen, and there's too guys that are fighting and the round ends like just just at the end of the round. All sudden the referee comes in and like punches, one of the two like just just My tie kicks a guy in the head and knocks him out. Everyone will be completely utterly outraged about this right cause course that I wasn't in the game what their attack I do, and so I think, there's a little bit of that. That's if the referee is supposed to not do that and when you see a cop thought is hey that guy's lights, that guy's viewed as a referee that guy's not supposed to be.
So I think that is kind of where some of that that that outrage comes from, because this is a cop. This isn't supposed to be happening here, disguise no not supposed to be killing people, and he did this. Also that the cap is just a person who has its extraordinary power? Yes, is extraordinary responsibility? Do what was terrified to me? Is it when I'm looking at this idea to defend the police and then I'm thinking like what are these What are these neighborhoods look like if you wind up doing that and then how do you get back out of that? We can what you do refund the police. Did you do ramp it up and do it better next time in this is a long process you're. Looking at a lot of trial and error here over, you know, perhaps multiple years before they figure out what what they fucked up.
Yeah and I know there's some there's some city. I think it's in New Jersey that Camden yes, but completely disband dismantled their police, but then they rebuilt the new police department, and I actually get that like you could they department that was so completely and utterly corrupt that you say you know what we're get rid of all them and you will see cocaine cowboys great documentary, but one of the things it talks about corruption during the cocoa air of the eighties, where the entire graduating police force, they crowded, tired from the police Academy, the entire graduating year, every one was either murdered or went to jail for corruption, everyone, the entire graduating class. That's how about it! So if you have that kind of that kind of problem in my native mail. You might want to dismantle that police force. What happens in the seal team sometimes sometimes there's a balloon that so bad that they just stages.
Managed to hope to. Our, however, is very rarely, but it does happen real what causes and usually there. Well, the problem is bad leadership. It's always bad leadership. Could you can take a bunch of knuckle heads and you give him a good leader and they'll? Do They'll do find so it's always comes down to the leadership. So sometimes it you'll have to replace a leader, but if the and usually when they replace leader your watch. That book turn around almost instantly, because someone death sentences are here's what we're doing here's, how we're doing it and they they make that change but sometimes you have just like a bad policy and they say you know what you guys are done. It seems incredibly difficult debate, a good leader, one of them all the more interesting things about what you're doing with your platform, whether it's your podcast or the Instagram Video
you put up your showing. What good leadership is: there's not a lot of people when you look at if you get a thousand people, how many of those people are going to be a real good leader While this is what this is, what has become my career? After the seal teams- because very, very lucky, and sometimes very very lucky. First, all my whole career was just lock. I was lucky guy. Ever in the seal deems and happened to be in the right places at the right times, and I got some experience in some very. Of situations and then the last thing that I did in the seal teams. For almost the last three years I was in was, I ran the training. The town tickle training, not the training, we're guys carry boats on their head and carry larger by. I didn't do that. Adding avoid went through it, but I didn't run that training The training where everything else
Are you running snares you're, putting people in bad situations you're using simulation? You do all these things, so I got to see over and over again leaders get put into it pressure situations and how their leaders responded in that how the team response to that leader and what these did things wash out, how they wash out and what's interesting is and what I really realised when I was in that position- is that their leadership is a skill and you can get better at it now, just like fighting just like you did too there's certain people that have a natural prevented to be good at you got some. Let's say someone's really strong right. There you have it. Let's say someone super flexible, they're gonna have little advantage. Let's say someone has their big right. These things are advantages in fighting in leadership same thing. Let's say someone is super, articulate that's helpful. Let's say someone doesn't have a bad temper. That's very helpful, but everyone is at a different level, we'll just like you can take a bunch of different
sized and shaped and athletic ability, people and you can make then, better fighting you can take a bunch of people with different levels of leadership characteristics and you can improve them and then there actual moves. There's actual moves that you can do as a leader that are just like a legitimate. Oh Joe comes to me and he's yelling and screaming at me that heating get the dating Yachting given extra people to go on a job instead of me going stage. Shut up, you launched knock em up. Instead, I actually listening right. I let you say: well hold on, I didn't know you needed that many people. What are you what you need him for? So I shall little sense of urgency, a kind of reflect what your emotions are. So I'm not just creed eating a fight between you and me, because if you and I are fighting you and I are not finding a solution, so I'm in Europe, lacked a little bit of your emotion and eliminate diminish it a little bit so you and I can have a real conversation. So there's moves that. You can do.
As a leader that function Could you jitsu move and their very, very powerful new. More of them, you learn the better off you'll be, and you need to practice them. You won't be good at out of the gate. It's gonna Some just like, if I showed you Roma, can you never done digital before you're, not going to help us get on them? dude somebody you're gonna have to try to couple times. You have learned little new ones as to the move. So there are we is that leaders can get better and yes, there's absolutely natural leadership, qualities and make people just a natural, better leader, but they even those people can improve. So your. Question of out of a thousand people. How many really good leaders there are Well, you have to ask: ok you just talking how many people are just naturally born great leaders dear probably your suspicion is correct, it's not a huge amount, but how many those leaders? Can you improve exponentially? their ability to lead and that's what are you coming?
echelon front. That's what we do all the time is we go and work with companies. We work with leaders. That is exactly what we do and we take companies of I mean we work with companies that have a hundred and two thousand employees and you start getting everyone all the others. There's a line in getting the frontline troops, understanding where the, where the leader, ship is and what their thinking, and so you can be com a much much better leader overtime. Now how So this do we see in the civilian sector, how much do even more directly? How much of this do we see in the political world? The answer is unbelievably small amount. I think it's a ridiculously small amount. It's a ridiculously small amount. Why is that? I bet there's there's a lot of reasons. First of all, who who at this point in the world? Thinks that that's all like a great job. Bright pay, I'm gonna go, get
tat from all sides and would have my personal life pick depart. I'm gonna get you to make work really hard and really not pay cap on how much money I make theirs. All kinds of reasons why becoming a politician doesn't look like the best job for for most people. That will What I rather be the sea over company and me it's a money and may create a huge product can be the big impact and influence thousands of people at work. My company in a positive way, or rather go and get rich. Uq holder, hit, broke down and have to try and get my job get in four years or two years or whatever the case. Maybe it's a that's a tough job too. A lot of people say: I'm not gonna, why? Why would I jump into that game? What No, I say that why would I jump in a decade? Why would I want to go and be a politician right now right? It's crazy! Like for meeting took, for me to want to go into the into the pot medical world. There would have to be completed, utter chaos in America. I mean wait way beyond beyond where we're out- and I thought about this, yet
I'm telling you what I think we would because people ass note. You should do this. You should do that. I say you know we're not at a point where we need this. Can be about four days away from it. We could be. I think the answer you don't let's go let's get, are doing their job, and I agree with you- she's the guy that could really think unify people and I think he would have to run as an independent. I recommend he does it right now, right right now: he's blackmail. You know what I mean, I think he would win. I think you would win. I really think he would win as an independent he's obviously a smart guy he's super articulate he listens, you can t that he listens. I mean when you seem interact with people, he's he's very genuine. How interacts he's built businesses right, he's built big, well really
productive businesses that are doing great? He he's, I think, you'd be great scanner. Fantastic work ethic forgot, a fantastic worker. Work, ethic that he you know he built became up from nothing right. You haven't boxes pocket, we all know the story and- and he has more boxes- get the not now so and most important. I think I think he's just a popular guy you he would get up and- and the country is going through hard times, walk into a friend on the way up here and you were saying: hey you know. Peep people want leadership and they're looking for it in and are not hearing it and a lot of times. People don't even recognize the fact that they dont have leadership. They don't in recognising its leadership vacuum, so they don't even know what they should be thinking. Let me give an example: you're. It was take us the opportune, see, opportune raids,
else there's an explosions there's some gunfire. No one's really sure words coming from and no sure what to do now that individual, a lot of you the visuals, Neptune or just kind of holding on security or hold that did not really sure what to do and you're not really even recognising that there's a leadership vacuum, but then someone comes in the leader level. Soon, chief, the commander comes into goes: everyone get to the roof right now there are lots of cool. Now we need to do so same thing happening in America right now. There's no kind of voice, Hey everyone, this is what I just saw on this video. This I just saw this heinous crime. This, obviously we have deep rooted problems that we need to fix? Here's the way I'm going to move forward addressing these problems chained to the bottom them and here's how long the timeline is gonna, be and by the way my yours are open and you know where the place be. No one I'm coming. I know
be in Minneapolis tomorrow afternoon. That's you like! Oh, we got a problem like that. If we the problem that I am going on? The ground, I will be there I'll, be there what I'm the guy on the president, so I'll be there and what to do I'll be there on the ground, I will find out. What's going on, I wanna meet with people. We're gonna talk I'm gonna, listen! I'm gonna find out what this means I wanna get to the bottom of these problems. That's that's! What, then you can actually speak from opposition Okay, I just spoke to these nine people matter fact. You're coming with me, we're going to come up with a plan, we're going to come up with a plan together and that's another huge leadership. Everyone thinks in the military that that the leader sitting at the top going our gentlemen, here's what we're gonna do when a protest building from the West working to assault the front door. Now, that's not the way it works but the way it should work the which should work I said you Joe, I say, hey Joe here's, the target I want you to go after tonight, come up with a plan and you say: ok, cool
and then you, if you're good leader, you get with your team in say hi guys here's the jargon after how do you think we should do it? And now you all come up with your own plan together and then you backed means a hedge, a jackal here. Do I don't looks good and maybe how to make a little jasmine eyes. I hate make us it'll just here or maybe use this weapon over here or whatever. I make little tiny adjustments, but it still your plan and from a leadership perspective that mean you are you- Your team are totally bought into the plan you made it up. As opposed to me, coming down in barking orders at you and tell you how we're gonna do it doesn't work. I mean I can force you to do it. I think you know why order. You to do this. That doesn't that, and if you don't times in my entire military career, I said: hey, I'm the boss, you better! Do it You do your army times. I said that zero zero times. No one thinks like that so in a leadership position. What you have today, do you say: hey I'm com,
we'll find out. What's going on, I want to talk to people and we're gonna put together a plan to figure how we're going to get this off. This is not acceptable in America that sounds fantastic, but what? If you're a republican and they're Democrats, and then you get on the ground and you have a mayor this non compliant. You have a governor that disagrees with your strategy. They don't want you to first place. They want to work it out themselves. They want to defend the police, their voting unanimously to deepen the police. They don't like what you're saying cool. Ok, if that's, where we're out right now, let's, let's come up with a plan, see how we get through this here's some things I'm worried about, because if you if you're telling me you want to defend the police, because you think that this police department is completely another utterly corrupt. Ok, let's, let's explore that cause, you could be right. You can Be right is where a lot of leaders make a mistake. Where becomes an ego thing, especially you like you're talkin, Republican and Democrats. That means, if I'm, a Republican, no democratic and have a good idea ever and if I'm a Democrat,
no Republican can have a good idea ever. That's completely wrong! That's completely wrong, so even right now like when you threaten me right now, right now, you're like hey what, if I do only if the police! Now I tell you what cops now you tell me all those things as a good leader enormously right there. Something really bad goin on here beyond, even when I just saw on this video on common, and I wanna hear what's happening and I want you to tell me what you're suggestions are and if your suggestions are to do on the police, let's splore where that, where that plays out, let's see what that ends up because ass we sharp human back, the layers, even the most, even the most ardent anti police person you're going to get to a point where say: okay When my house is a win win, one of your constituents house is being broken into who are they going to call what what mechanism are going to put in place for security? How are we gonna? Keep people safe from crime,
and then they ve got answer that question, and maybe they come up with a good answer. I don't know yet, but as a leader you have to listen to other people's ideas and we have to you. You absolutely have to do that. There is a saying from patent lead on the front line is always always right. The leader on the front, the lead On the front line is always right, so I've who tried to embrace that theory, not just from a leadership perspective. Even from a human perspective. You know when you, want to tell me something that I don't know about, and when I listen to you, I'm actually I'm actually really going to listen to you to try and asked myself well see ya lives in the city, jos here with this community and Joe telling me right now that we should have no police you're well. Could he very emotional. Yes, he could doesn't mean. I should not listen. Anything he says. No, it doesn't means Should monitor your your emotions and I should take that into account, but I should so we say: there's gotta, be
some court of truth to what he sing now. Is it possible that shows just a bad actor and just evil? Yes, It is how do I know that must listen to their answers. You don't you know one of my own right now jargon and the rock turning a twenty four hour here and comments on. I bear Cagey, yeah Well, I really hope it doesn't get to that saying all makes fantastic sense, but the problem is, everybody is so partisan, it so difficult to get people to work together and people are so. There are still so much invested in keeping this party divided by these party lines, keeping a country divided by the right and the left. It sits. It's so nuts it is completely nuts. It's completely knots and when you hear the extremists on either side you you should say to yourself. You said yourself: they want us to fight right. It's like snow
here, I'll I'll I'll drop dime on myself, I'm a big like when I was a kid seal teams thousand instigator, if I kids, if I could talk smack to two different people and let them start to get escalating like they wanted to fight. I would do that all day long, specially once I started train people, do jitsu do the guy. That was saying, oh he's, the he thinks it can take you now, because he train for two weeks, haven't been here and what will you shut up you know I would do that all day, long escalate. So we had to say that, because for once, will fight to the death did when I was an unfair instigating people, it's fun yeah there! there's some level of fun to it, but fighting to the death. Is this a different kind of fun yeah? But when you recognize I that, when people on the extremes are telling you extreme things that what they want is to create a divide, that's what they want so
You just go. You know what I just can't have that so I'm voting here, but I just can't have this. So I'm voting here, it's a it's a it's a nightmare. It is a nightmare. It's a very difficult one to get out of. You need real leadership to get out of it and that's just right now on both sides, totally absent and there's no middle ground nuts. There's no one that says. Well, you know I I you know I like some trumps policies right. Someone says that it's like, oh just destroy that mostly announced or you don't. I agree with. I agree with Nancy policy on this thing you must be communist either way, but that's the way as where we're here. That's that's why unfortunately well one thousand four hundred and fourteen me, but if the rock was going to run he would all I think, you'd have to run as an independent right to say, listen, I'm about their some things like if ever there there's something I agree with over there
so you know what I'm doing, I'm goin in the middle, which is where most of America is so if you want to vote extremists. You can go to the side. Other trimming roadside everyone else vote for me most I'm someone even one as a governor there was an independent, wasn't jes even turn, possibly Minnesota. Yeah possibly might have been him. I mean never. Even here, yeah! Well, that's there's a whole like money thing that there's a whole money thing where, if you're, not a republican or democrat you're, not gonna get those big coffers full of money to put paid advertising out and hip give people in the streets of over you you don't have the machine behind you in other Dnc behind you or the Republican Party yeah it some to real, weird situation. We find ourselves in with no clear path to sanity net, there's no clear, Plath PATH, the sanity. If we don't talk to each other and right now not now we're not obscene. Ah, you know that
people- are so just angry, just angry when you talked him about the stuff. Just anger comes out. Torp toppled watch what what disturbs me? I don't see it in the past when there's been disputes or things have been wrong. The seems like there's a clear path to sort of work. Things out, it doesn't seem like a clear path, it seems like everyday kind of gets a little worse. So I could get ramped up even more and then there's this event. That's a looming on the horizon, this November event, the selection event and no matter what, whether it's left or right, whether Biden, wins or trump wins, is going to be madness and chaos. It seems hard for me to understand that Biden. Could it could maintain his health? You know through a presidency that seems very challenging to me.
I mean it seems like he's been going down- you know with his coherence level You can kind of seed over even months right, yeah he's on a really really rapid downward spiral when seem stressful for anybody to tromp, whatever fuckin reason back. I eat it up, but for most people running for president alone, just a gruelling just did the scheduled is involved in travelling, in doing all the speeches and its breaks, in one of the reasons why Hilary lost was she just one? and willing to travel much, there was all these different events it. She was supposed to go to. She just couldn't go, she could take anymore. She thought she was gonna win anyway, so she just state laid back there. It definitely is a brutal thing- it's really also just completely insane that the two candidates are these two people, while gathered raddle. First of all that the best a Democrat,
could do I mean they had all these other people that work well spoken seemed like young, healthy and there's no through so many that is hard to comprehend, right. Syrian, it's really hard to comprehend that now that you're these. This group of whenever we have three hundred fifty million people and twenty million people in American. This is it. This is we end up with yet meet fuckin anybody, but by anybody- and you don't even know his vice president right- that's gonna make a big deal. That's can be a big difficulty. Vice presidents compelling an interesting says: gonna pick woman, whether he picks up the problem gonna, pick clover Sharm showers responsible for a lot of those guys skating in Minneapolis. So well, that's not good! And then, if he's gonna with Kemal Harris tolls. Gabbard kind of took the legs out that later so then, whose left Mayor PETE it seems like a guy was just gotta
playbook is kind of like following this Obama Playbook, and I still feel it from him at all the OECD gay beat up a gay guy in offers. An enlightened people are below that heavily we have a powerful gay leader. Will you be great for the country? I think you don't like that, though the the things about Obama being office beside the fact being office beside the fact is very articulate, educated and so well spoken. Statesmen set is like hey, look we're making progress that we have a black president, like I felt that I felt like a wave across the country. People like you, you can be present in this country like even if you're born out of a single family, single mother, family, you're a black eye. You can you as long as you got the goods you can make it like this great this means we really are living in a meritocracy and there will be greater was a gig then had the same experience like like all the people that are homophobia like tat, but I've fucked
mayor pay. These got me, I'm not the Bible says, but you know one fact: the Bible and voted for that guy he's better than trap me. That would be great, but he's just I don't think he's the guy me, I'm the guy some Davies, also young guy right, so who else who the fuck? It is their specimens? It's gonna be Biden, and he said it's gonna be a woman is definitely we go. Tell see She's too fuckin dangerous near the Democrats scare to her she's and play games, which is so crazy. I know she's everything everything they want. Women of color congresswoman, sir. The overseas to deployment, scan everything she said super articulates super our tissues level headed super level added very entail. But she
just not corrupt, cut this one problem, a problem I mean other than that you look at it like Jesus Christ, this lady she's willing to talk to people on your side, she's she's, a state's woman, she's a you know the way she speaks he speaks like a leader want even consider two dangers. Well, so words is that I'm going back to her dj doing their opt out and gas. That's what I'm saying back to independent as an independent yeah and waited Jacko twenty men and women it's it's very, very. It's very stew, horrible and and When I see all this divide right. This is one thing that just. Two to abandon the military and a ban on the battlefield. End
fought, alongside guise of every background, every background that you can imagine: white black men Ex again, whatever Porter Wreak in Asia in their everyone's out there everyone, and by the way, going memorial services for these guys overseas. There's not why fought in your head. Does now one fought in your head: that's thinking! Oh, underneath it the flag on that coffin? Is that a black eye or that a white guy? Not one thought your They cannot in any way shape or form. All you know is that that person took a bullet got blown up. That could be me. They took that for me, and come back here and and now see this this, this country being ripped apart its the most horrible thing. For me, this is something that gives discussed a lot guys and teams and by different guys in the military period. That way,
you've served overseas with with these guys that racism becomes the least the least considered thing. See you your brother's, because your literally the consequences of your actions consequences of your data day existence is so so dire life and death The most drastic consequences that we are aware of. There's no you're losing your life or you're not or save you or they don't you brothers, you're altogether, but in this world, consequences are less grave and the requirements of people are less extreme you're, not as test it. You're. Not your character is not as supposed. You are not as you're not as vulnerable. In that sense, and because of that, I think, people are more outraged and their findings
more reasons. Why were separate more reasons to divide us more reasons why the their different from us, whether it's because, ideology or skin Color SAM Harris has apart. Guess where is discussing all the different things in the it brings a one really great pointed Pike S it's out. Now he seeks to imagine a world where we, we think of color the same way. We think of hair color like did the colored people skins assembled. Could you imagine a world where I don't trust redheads, you know I don't do those people with dark brown, hair, fuckin creepy to me, all the people in my neighborhood that are blonde thrall, shady like that seems so preposterous. While one day the girl would be so great if we Day. That's how we feel about all skin color, but it's no different than hair color. It's just characteristics. It you were born with you have no control over who you are is what's important. That's it you're, gonna, think that's what
that's what that's the position that the military put you put You in this position of look. I gotta rely on this guy. I I rely on the sky and if they are reliable, I'm down I'm good If they're not reliable, I gotta problem and it doesn't matter what color they are doesn't matter, what it is matter that is this person gonna, be there. Is this a good person? can it be there to back me up and that's all we care about and For me, this is like super regressive to be going through that watch the country go through this and think. How did wait? Wasn't I, just ten years ago, like overseas with bunch of guys, we care about any this didn't didn't didn't enter into our minds were not looking at it all the time and I guess part of it is because you got in appearing reunified during a struggle. And right now, let's face it in Amerika the now
lot of struggling happening, remove a kind of making our own struggle rightly exactly here, and I think one of the things you ve talked about. That's very important. Is that a lot of this device I'd is because of this really shitty way of communicating, whether through social media or their Sarita We are watching videos so terrible way too, not just gettin for information, but it's a terrible way to interact with people like that. Interact with people's way. You and I are doing right now, just talk to people and I think, Vast majority of problems would be solved amongst reasonable people. If they just talk through this talk and try to feed. You're out. You know, you know he. May I like that you did this. What would it well well, I was thinking when I did this: here's what you right, here's! Why did it, and this is what I was thinking. I was wrong because of that and if people can just say that- and people could accept that we would shake hands hog it out, rather than have a fuckin twitter beef that leads to
gunfight mean literally, that's that's the way we exchange information with each other back and forth through social media is the absolute worst way people can talk. You know Looking at each other, you don't get any social accuse. You don't feel any apathy towards that person that you're not in front of them. You not there and you looking to see how many people agree or disagree whose liking or this as a public thing right. So how many like so that their thing got four hundred likes mine, we got twenty shit. Am I wrong here? It's it's just a terrible way for us. It's it's. A new found way for us to communicate and terrible waivers communicate is not well designed, for it is not how we evolved. We evolved to communicate with social queues and to look at each other and be around each other and yet you could say something to a person and you you you both laughing or you see it written down the same way like you that as a fucking ass
yeah even from a leadership perspective. You will talk about this. A lot with hay out You know I sent you I'll, send you an email, you know that says: hey Joe, can you get project on next week, thanks you're the bad mood when you read that you hope who the hell, you think you're too, but it was a joke. Can you get this project on by next week? We really I'm looking at you kind of emu blinks there and I explained to you a little bit more in all the sun. It turns into a perfectly good conversation, except when I send you that he mail- or in this case a tweet right there you, you hate me: I've got management to do right, you gotta, will you wouldn't, when you want some As someone who you want, you want some things you get done. You manage that person personality in mood, and yet a man, the relationship that you have with each other and you you have to be proactive. You have the you'd have to
What's up man hey doing everything good you good to have to get a good feeling out there, and they say this has got to ask you this favor. I need this thing from you and then and then you roman everything's good. What exactly you dont do that way than people who fuck this guide? Others got just wants things may your this guy's annoying, or that this disguise treat me like a bitch, exactly the world through zoom right now so we're doing a lot of zooming some. My company has not brought the job The video alone increases your ability to communicate right massively it doesn't all the way, their right, but just been but look at someone would have a conversation with them, as opposed to either to say: you're, not a foreigner, absolutely so so that I, of hey, I'm actually to sit down and talk to you, actually sit out hey what I'll meet you there are like weep. It is obviously once we used to go into or we still do, but going to businesses and working with them shaken
and how you do in talking to him and then all of a sudden. In three days we are doing everything online. Everything pay to meet me on the zoom call and you can get there ninety seven percent effectiveness. Just by looking at someone in talking to him, you ve just like us. A little percentage that you're still not gonna get. But if you think you're going communicate effectively through social media tweets. You you're just friggin wrong in its one step below a right Social media tweets, is one step below email emails, one step above that phone clauses, ones too, above. That zoom is a step above that another layer, personal persons, that ass person, persons Howard, that's what we're designed for everything else is just it's in that's. What's leading to all this fucking madness in chaos, there's a lot of it is fuelled its weapon eyes by by social media tweets and yeah- is by the way when you sit, send me a tweet to be to be an asshole to me. I've
I actually does retreat that until everyone, what an asshole you are, a bunch of people report goes well, may have God we're not it will not. Work and giving us an what We don't want and not working together right. That's another thing that Cove it did right order suddenly took every one and isolate you're. Not you not see in them you're not talking to them. So now everyone almost strictly communicating by these methods that you're talking about this is horrible horrible for society, horrible for society. The idea, The idea of coming to work in a place the idea of hey I'm in a sharp and work at a place with other people that is such a huge part of getting back to where we need to be like when pull everyone out of work and in the end, even worse, not even just beyond covert what you're happens whip. We ve moved all manufacturing, oversee sprite. So all those people that used to go and work in the same place every day that used to show up- and
have a common mission in a common goal. They don't have that anymore much of the middle class. Doesn't have that anymore, they used to have it, they don't have it anymore and that's interesting. We China's no class is growing right now. Why is criminal? fast, growing cause their manufacturing they're, making things there feeling that void of people that have that level of skill set of hey. You know what I just gotta. High school. I can't afford com. So. What am I gonna do right, oh well, in China, Well, you can say: ok! Well, I guess we're to work at a factory. Hey, it's horrible swept out its do whatever we need that they need to improve their their conditions. But hey these people a job. They have a purpose they're moving in a certain direction in America we ve kind of on a massive scale, gotten rid of that class of people's purpose, and that's a big focus for you right. Will you your company origin
particular of which, by the way, I got the boots to fuck and guides great shit. It's like really hard equality really be to manufactured stuff like- and there is something very value right now, but American made it used to be theirs. It was very divisive what you said. American may look what he is in evolving tonight, foreigners what the fuck is wrong with you. But now you re I like with whether with cove it you know we were cut off from even getting goods and supplies from other countries and then we're getting so of our medical supplies from China and then we're getting so much of our vaccines and medicine always different things manufactured by China. You like it! Why don't we do that here? What we used to- but I was cheaper by like or a thing to send it over there, like. Oh Christ and people are real now there's a there's, a great benefit to making things here in Amerika, and it's not just this, de of national pride national pride great, but also like you, don't you don't have to
go anywhere to get things and you keep jobs here there and I forgot Kenya West is looking to bill saint same things we're doing, he wants to me you facts or stuff in America. Why? Because he knows You have a bunch of underprivileged kids. The best thing you can prove I'd a bunch of underprivileged kids is jobs jobs. They can entry level jobs. I know when I was a kid. It was almost like hey if you're, not careful, you're going end up working in the factory right. That's what's going on you can end up working the factory. No one wanted a factory job the thing is so so that kind of became Montero you, you don't work in fact, factory. You better go to college. Well, there's fat! First of all, factory work has changed their jobs that people do in a factory that takes a massive scale set and the boots. You know that the origin boots, we were prone, probably a year two years, three years from losing the knowledge of how to actually do that and luckily
buddy Peat has started deal being people to know how to do it in passing that information down to the next generation, so we can actually be a self sufficient country and we can bring back those jobs of people that look, that of that proud way to make a living. These are cracked and, like you said these are crafts, men and crops, women. By the way, our factories mostly filled with women and their there. They have a skill, set their learning, a skill set theirs, but there's upward mobility as get better your job. As you can do more things, you can make more money and by the way, you're making something you're. Making something with your hands are producing something here in this country. Just like what well it's like. When you go hunting. When I go hunting, you get something yourself, there's a certain feeling of being self sufficient and a on a large scale. Especially we don't covered. We look up and say, wait a second, we
we can't even we can't even make that stuff. We don't even know how to make that that's a nightmare while the boots, in particular thinking about if you started from scratch like if I start from scratch, know shit about how to make a boot If I had a little too long learning curve of figuring out how to make an excellent boot that fits right as well made and durable like those boots, are you I like I was going over- I was looking at this thing on my big fuckin put some time and effort in this thing. This is a really well crafted piece of art and its functional artwork and that knowledge It's not. That's, not that's, not our generation. I learned that we're we're pulling that information from the old you, dogs up and made that are Sixty years old, seventy years, almost out of the workforce having to bring them back into the workforce to to educate, the younger generation on how to Actually do this. We gotta get up their names, Cameron, twenty
to twenty young kit and he has learned now how to weave the material for our geese. So he's the guy that knows how to weave material. This wrote this is complicated? Where do you see all these different pieces of string coming together? Get this big machine with so is Galileo loom? Yes, we ve got looms up there, but we had to get the knowledge right from the old timers it's ok! Let me show you how to do this and, like you just said how long would it take? to figure out a loom on your own? First of all, I think I would fail cause. I don't think I have. The patients have hijacked this machine to look at. So capturing this knowledge so that we can become a self sufficient country. Again, it's gone be paramount in what we're doing, and it's not just it's, not just hey, because pro America? Yes, but if we want to get rid of the kind social unrest that we have right now in Romani, you got a fifteen year kid that's putting a roadside bomb in the road. You know
he's doing that easy doing it Some big ideology? No he's not he's doing it. Cause he's gonna get paid. Fifth, dollars by the insurgents. He wants a job. He wants a life. He wants to make money. What happens in Amerika? What and with kids in the inner city that are on underprivileged when they don't have a job. What are they going to do? What are we gonna? Do they're going to fall into oh, maybe I'll, sell drugs, maybe I'll commit robberies whatever I'm gonna do but they're not doing it by choice in many cases or if their duty, by choice. It's because they don't see any other choices even make so we ve! Let our manufacturing go away, and now we ve got voids. We ve got voids where p well, don't have an ability to make an income, and that's that's that's that's. Just a complete loss of pride right You don't have the ability to earn money to take care of yourself to take, carry your family, you don't have ability what you gonna do you
to figure out how to make it happen so short sighted. To I mean it was all done for just a small amount of profit per item small amount of profit per item in and it cost the country. So much, and and then the then the net. If became? We are not able to do it? That's why we don't do it. We are not able to do it. That became the narrative. Well, you know, even the big corporations would say. Well, you know we'd love to we love to make stuff here, but it's impossible. It's impossible without predict, stood completely and totally ridiculous. Also like you when you go through Detroit Irreligion Detroit at one point in time in the early twentieth century was one of the richest countries in the world or excuse me one of the richest cities in the world. You you you go through an you realize over. This is where there are making all the fucking bad ass cars all the amazing american cars of the Sixtys and Seventys, they were all made right there and then they fucked up. Someone made some decisions,
to save a little bit of money and make a little bit of money and completely short sighted. Didn't look at the economy as a whole. Didn't look at the nation from a position of a patriot, someone who looks at the country in a hollow what's best for the country and who said what is the best way that weaken maximize our profit? While we need to set up factories in Mexico, China and on all these are the places we can give people, work for nothing you can't buy for cell phone. It's made America all the people to design an engineer cell phones for apple there right here, then I'm making a mere there's, not a fucking. Single cell phone. It's made America try buying one that's made with all american parts, all american labour in Amerika. We, what no such thing doesn't exist and what you're gonna be told? Is it can't be done? That's a lesser nazi, don't That's cool about you! All mosque watch this year, I'll make cars here I'll make em awesome make rocket ships were here what's that guy's american tunnels under the earth, we need
couple more of those goods it, sir! It's it's good the people are opening their eyes, though it's good to people are realising because the pandemic, and because the fact that all goods and services that were being important on a daily basis were shut down there and also people terrified of getting things over there. What you gonna spray everything down, everything's infected what what I'm scared? What do I do, but the medicine is the crane is one the fact we rely on China for some ungodly percentage of olive or medicine like holy shit guys exist. The right way to do this. Just for profit, its. It seems like we got a little bit lucky with covert. Yes, The great a little bit lucky could turn out to be not not bad. You ever get anybody test, fuck should Tessier cause. You think you might have I'm so the end of January. Right right is this thing was kick off. I did a live tour. I did Austin Then I did Washington DC than I did
york, city, Seattle, SAM Francisco and allay every event, but shook and Bro hugged in two thousand and two thousand people? That's what I did at the end of January I went to the the salute like ground zero locations for covered at this. Just bring hugged and talk to bunch of people and shook hands and did I just got after it? and then I got sick. Yeah like a week later, something two weeks later. I guess it was February. I was sick and other gee. I wonder what that is and then and then March came around and we saw the sick like coffin. Wasn't real bad. It wasn't real bad was there as we know it is bad enough that I think I might escape like I am going to stretch today cuz. I really feel like crap for work out type of thing, so I can get. I wasn't down hard. I wasn't in and I didn't miss any. I didn't miss anything, but I felt bad, and so I figured that was my
That was my cold experience. My wife got sick. My son got two dogs in college and my young daughter didn't get sick at all much annual, Dotard and gets economic says it sounds like it. Do you after not now, I didn't make it a fuckin text right now and we get a doctrine here in an hour and a half way down. The eminent momentum is absent because I want to find out what you would be, the only God it's tested positive. If you did know we had TIM's but Buddy was named, then he didn't false positives, no test them again, yeah. I think it would be Be crazy. If that travel schedule that I had sit on all those airport, and from into and from all those different airports in all those airports? That is, this is crazy, yeah mask and right now we get one three that was another. We'll talk about egos. The the scary thing about the whole covert unravelling was that
The leadership wouldn't say I know what I actually think wrong about this and we're moving in this direction. Right, not just leadership and everyone right- everyone- just hey! No, you know I'm a bad thing all wrong here, but we need to adjust this here's it so you didn't get to see. That that's a great point is that that really was a failure of leadership cuz. It was very clear it's important time when they found out when they did the large scale anybody's test, killing, California, they Jesus Christ. Hundreds of thousands of people have been exposed to this is not what we thought like in the amount of people that are actually set instant result back called down around you dead. Did the amount of people that that actually tested positive for the anybody's was way higher than we thought and the amount of people there were? Actually hospitals was way lower and then they looked at the average depth. People died, it's actually older,
the average depth people die. Muslin pointed that out to me here we shut down the falcon economy. For that I guess I was was a little bit whatever else pretty rough as pretty cavalier through the whole doktor PETE yeah you he was dirty. I was less pronounced while he was way nervous. Could he was in early right round when you saw the early stuff yet when you, hey. It's one out of every ten people die right, but even he was making adjustments, he said: wait a second in ITALY, there's different cities that was, I think where he started changing his his attitude wait a second in ITALY. There's different cities, and some cities there really compressed together and people are old people living with young people in the same place and I'll wait a second we need separate this out, and then I just hate wasn't bad. Thank God. Thank God, wasn't is bad and my buddy Andrew shots at a great point, he said basically covert exposed weaknesses
is in both business and in people's health. That's really dead, yet that that those the lock down did because there was businesses they literally couldn't survive a week without money coming in? That's that's a badly managed business or amid a business. It is a very small and narrow profit margin and then there's people that literally can't survive any no disruption in their immune system there are means, to miss shattered. One of these it came out of it. Then I found out from Doktor, Rhonda Patrick, was that seventy percent of America's deficient vitamin D. Seventy percent- twenty nine percent is severely deficient to the point where like there, though they have medical issues because of a deficiency and vitamin yeah you gotta get on that you gotta get on the vitamin d forgotten get on the vitamin d in the best way to get it is to get out in the sun it and that's the one thing you weren't supposed to do. The whole thing is man, as it was a perfect storm recycling the plague in detail what the black plague they thought it was. They thought it was cats
If our cats delivered the plagued everyone, they killed all the cats, but it wasn't cats. It was the rats and mice, and so, when you the cats guess what happened to the rats and mice insane so was the same kind of thing unfolding and no one saying hey. No one actually we're all here, for I know what and what about the masks? This was crazy, I got somebody that texted me. They said: hey, there's this thing common, you origin you guys you start making masks just to just to cover your face, and I said Ok, I don't know anything about this stuff. I talking but sounds like there weren't to make masks and he's, Ok, so we we start about hey. How would we make these things and then a couple days later, the government, the government, out and says mass. Don't, anything, don't worry, don't grow where mass don't get mass sites. B as an aim, and it looks like this isn't gonna look like we don't need to do. It looks like doesn't help at all. Five days later, there like every one where a mask at all times
and, by the way, we're gonna to pass laws that require You too, where mask I'd, call be like looks like we need to make masks. You know and we ended up making two hundred hundred thousand masks, and we were two years this is the way things were sending in the hospitals, but we donated thousands of master hospitals and and two weeks later was like no. Actually, I don't do anything. I still don't know what it's hard to get the problem. Is people get shamed and the the World Health Organization came out and basically said. The only reason should be wearing a man was the CDC now the world here too found. She said: U S, government held off promoting face mass, because it new shortages were so bad that even doctors couldn't get enough. So, as he just saying that now this morning are today since we So guess what you are. Every we all got lied to learn to hold off
promoting face mass because it new shortage were so bad that then doctors couldn't get enough. Recently, the CDC said the only people that should be wearing mass or people that are treating covert patients and regular people. Shouldn't be wherein masks and then the world organization said that asymptomatic people- it's strangely rare that they transmit to other people. So we at about asymptomatic people's threes when we Kepler s School and we work. Overcoming hospitals, which today I really did all those other stuff as well. We should withdraw me crazy about my kids school. I was like hey you fucks. This doesn't even kill the kids. It's killing the kids, get killed by the flu Meanwhile, you don't even scan the teachers or is it staff or anybody people have the fluid in want to miss a day of work. These fucking show up and give it to everybody. That's normal and kids actually die from the flu
start a small number, so small number of people who die from the food last year was sixty two thousand made its not as many as covert, but then your hearing, your hearing, two camps, hearing, one that the covert deaths are actually under reported because out of people die from covert and they don't even register it. Ok boy, I guess it's worse than it has many hearing now. Actually we're getting incentivize to reward debts as covert Elon musk and the progress that if you get killed by a shark, but you were covered they would listed as a covert. Obviously he was being procedure, but not entirely because he's alive people with leukemia that also had covered listed as a covert death, obesity, heart attacks listed as a covert death because it does did positive for covert cancer also had covered covert means
Fuck? That's really disturbing. We hear those statistics than you see these things that their sand in just the lack of trust that you end up with the governments when the government has already people just generally, really trust the government a lot right right, there's, no one! That's always thinking the government is always give them the straight skinny, and it goes back to this click. Baby bullshit. My wife pointed out the story yesterday, where she's reading about, this kid, the died seventeen year old kid perfectly healthy. It says She read some of the article type one diabetes type, one I believe it is not perfectly healthy know things really sick.
Fuck and dangerous? You have to take insolent to stay alive and think you can get complications go deference, living diet, type, one diabetes, diabetics can live real normally and then they can have an instance that causes them to die. Yet they can have their foot removed. Tat is all sorts of shit that goes wrong when you have diabetes. Your immune system is severely compromise but like where we were our information. It's pure we're getting all this money thing. In fact, she turned that's the always want it or not, wear masks, because they knew you didn't have enough like holy shit how many people die because of that you fuck, and the World Health Organisation is actually no one does not have to worry about it. I really dont you to wear a mask fuckin. What is happening. I think So much of this ego place so much in this of people, not one They met the wrong. You wonder here's another thing that people won't say I dont know right. I don't know like as a leader
I've been in situations where I did not know for this zone. I tell leaders all time as it was until your people, the truth about, what's happening by the way where things apples where this is factually not happening inside America. Right now, if you're, a leader, tell the people here, it's about. What's going on, that's what you need to do and then People come back to me in this well what? If? What? If I don't know what you're? What if I dont know the truth then what you do is you say: hey, I don't know the truth. Hey guys aren't I know exactly how this gonna play out. These are and contingencies that on preparing, for that is so much more acceptable from the troops. Then, when you try and pretend like you know what you're talking about it turns out you're all right, I mean trot, does this so much that people lose track of it right where he think something, and he just goes out on a limb. He just walked right out on a limb and says: hey this cove itself, a beginner, weak and you know that you just saw awful and behind his foot. He does
at all times. It's it's a good example of how not to lead, because then people start to trust you less and less, and then, when things like this happen, where you find out that they actually did purpose now think if they were to set this like we are worried about. We don't have enough mass, then you know what you come out and say you come on. You say: listen everyone we're not! percent sure what the masks due for people, but we do know this inside of a medical environment. We have to prioritize getting those people that are absolutely exposed. These masks, that is why we are going to put some control control over who is allowed to buy. You just tell the truth. Without was gonna happening at some places, like Amazon was only doing that knows what it and ninety five times they were selling them only to hospital workers, and there you go There were allocating them, along with other types of hands, had ties in the budget different things they are selling specifically to them. First and first responders perfect example yeah what you'd
do is say: hey everyone. Don't worry about right right when I did, but if we have he's saying that look well fuck! Oh now we can't trust you ever again Jack. That's that's the freakin problem, you're. Looking at this guy, it's time there's some kind of disease next time around. How do we know We can listen to your views. Also think you say a couple of weeks ago: the United States doesn't open up soon wicked wicked, face permanent damage. Oh economic challenge, permanent economic think my play: hey, hey, hey! How come you didn't say this before? How come you didn't say, hey. We have two way in the pros and cons here. You know You should have at others actually submitted. I talked of purity about it. I said, Kate It seems like maybe so people should be cordon Tina and other people should and he's a gap solely on results. Like my dad, whose an older guy who's he's, not a guy compromising in system, guess what
He should be isolated, should be quarantine. Should my Seventeen year old son should twenty year old daughter, my twenty one, twenty eight tenure of my tangled should they be in isolation. Should they be quarantined, Absolutely not absolutely no eight, first week, two weeks we're we're here. Ten percent bother you were here in all these things, call you can make an you, can make an inn. Travis call! You can say: hey guys, I don't know what's happening, but in ITALY it looks real bad guessing. Where do we shut down for two weeks? I'm sorry, but this is going to do and you go the nations as ok. Ok, we get it and then two weeks later, you say you know what it looks like. It's that really might be impact are met. Systems when a shut down for another two weeks, just another. We nevertheless, whom you I gotta Michael mortgage, but ok to more weeks.
And then you say then you gotta do not have the courage and the ability to put your ego in check and say you know what thank you made me. Out of the necessary. We don't know right now, but it looks like we can start opening backup, let's rock n roll. The other problem is once they tell you what to do. They don't want to stop having now power and control. The other large avenue literally said, wear masks, because then we can get back some of our freedoms, you gonna, give away freedom. Have you got that kind of power? And maybe I should run for Governor Hoddan nodded gives control freedoms. You got my vote, give away freedoms the businesses surviving right, you're talking about the businesses, surviving, there's a lot of businesses, especially little businesses right little jujitsu, Jitsu schools, little restaurants, you wanna restaurant, operate on fifty percent capacity that you read
strands art- make in this kind of money where they can throw away fifty percent of their profits over fifty percent of their capability. Make money they still because they still gonna have that cook that that cook is there. That washers there right, there's your bare minimum and got to be there, no matter what? If you, Sir fifty people great, if have twenty five you'll make any money so there's there's gonna, be there's a lot of businesses that run that. A day yoke month to month, paycheck to page to try and stay afloat. That's the best. What America does and sometimes variable creep out of that may get ahead, not awesome! That's all you end up with a big, powerful companies. Yeah I've had, couple. A restaurant owners in Adam Perry, Lange who owns APL, stake in House, JANET Zakharino and Evan Funky, who own they own office,
She owns Felix Jones, Felix and he's the head shop and they were explained to me profit margins and it's fucking crazy. It's it's what you, what you really look at, how difficult it is to run a restaurant and all the decisions that have to be made, and you know what food goes bad. If you keep it too long and you got to buy certain amount of food, you anticipate a certain amount of customers. You got to Oh your cousin was explaining gotta you. We know our customers. I know most of them are not going to order this someone one and I have certain amount of meals that I'm an have of the fish and more meals of the stake in the past as primary. That's what most people coming here formally fuck and then you tell them. Oh, you can only open up its sixty percent and waitresses have to wear a fuckin hazmat suit it'll, take a god damn what are they? Ten percent fifteen percent five percent profit margin Think they were saying. Fourteen percent is was how they operate, but it's difficult. It's very difficult. Indeed, people don't want to
spend too much money on meals, you know, and so they the it has to be. Engineer like how can you? How can you do it right in June, It has had a ton of successful restaurants like she's, a wizard at mean she's, been doing it straight out of college in her problem was she was in the process of building, multiple restaurants, so all of her money well we're out, even though extremely profitable and very very successful at all these restaurants, she's building All these other restaurants, at the same time with that money, because she knows how to make money, does she knows how to run these businesses so she's doing so. She's gotta, jamaican restaurant she's got italian restaurants, Scott, all these things happening and then being the government tells you have to shut down, yeah. It's the the profit margin, there are so many biddiomahs. We work in our continent from businesses, yeah and the profit margin, on many many businesses, is really really
lean or my favorite examples is big construction companies, big construction companies that are doing you know five hundred million dollar projects or seven. Hundred million dollar bridges in Colosseum, since their profit margin is like four percent holy Shit percent home. I resent if they do awesome, it's like six percent that and there you know ordering concrete and they ve got to have. It showed up a certain time and then the rebar wasn't in place like it's crazy there. The margin for error is so small and there so many businesses that operate like that and a lot of times think some of the people and government they ve never been in business before and so they don't understand that for them, hey just operate at fifty percent past. The insider restaurant you'll be fine, that's a very good point and there they ve never run a business, and I have a Jujitsu Jim. We got shot down so now now We now they're telling us hey, you can allow people can the gym they just have to be six feet apart. We
did you two to six feet apart, you can't do my tie six feet apart. So what are we supposed to do now and by the way what about? Oh, you want us to check people and we want to have this there's all these protocols were put in place to have someone come into the gym. So now A higher extra people we're gonna higher extra cleaning staff, because the Jimmy shut down for this period of a day in any. Do three clean everything like firstly, the people that are making these rules have never been an never been a business before yet telling a person who is running a jittered Jim that people have to be sexually apart. The hot jujitsu is zero report, zero feet of our zero zero space, that's a whole goal of Jujitsu elicited a smash. The whole goal. Take your body smashed someone's body with it that the whole idea is no space? The litter
really is the foundation of Jujitsu pressure applied with no space, and this goes back to the idea of as a leader, taking the information from the frontline troops in how you tell me: what's a good way to run this, you tell me you and we want to get rid of endless. Let's see if we can figure ass well is borrowed really want to talk to cheat. You Jim owners and my suggests I've never run, and you just Jim abandon a shitload of my suggestion would be. Have people fell out a waiver, so they waved their rights. Have people fill out a form that says I have not tested positive. I've showed no symptoms of illness. I promise that, if I do, I will not true And I will get myself tested. Testing is readily available now for a long time we're getting shamed because we're attesting pdf, I'm angry that we're testing people like look, you can tell people to you fuck, just like you could buy a stake
costs money. You know, are you mad that people have steak and you can afford a stake? What do you know? There's people did the different stages of life. You know in this game Society and care. It was amended in advance. You start off it square a you know. Everybody starts at a different spot granted, but I started bottom and you figure out a way to get a fuckin task and if you are in a spot right now, new life we can have a test, will definitely don't go and expose yourself. Do we know what the fuck is? Don't matter, people can afford test. You crazy fox, and but we're out right now. Would you Jesse James? Is you should have a form these? now, just like when I was at a restaurant, unwanted lonesome, Dove restaurant shot out to them and Austin Texas fantastic place to make. You feel that a reform says you have been tested positive. You know you're, not you not sick, not shown any symptoms. You know the dual temperature check check you for it: I looking good come on it set out to pack. You in order to keep you now, if you re a little bit separated, but that was two weeks ago and others
the place gases fried chicken shot out Gus best Fuckin for on earth in Austin Texas. We went there two weeks ago and you couldn't there, you have to wear a mask in the restaurant anyhow. Take out so we got take up. Then we came back again yesterday. Yesterday, no fuckin man everybody's in their sitting. All the seats are packed. Strongly suggest. You wear a mask well, no one or of York and Mass the waiters our war masks, but it's like things are getting given that there is another restaurant Red Ashley? We we ate at Saturday night that place had seventy five percent capacity, and you had aware mask until you got your table and then you had to wear a again if you had to go, take a leak, you to put your mask back on, take come back and back and make any sense is like. There is lit this health department guidelines and p
trying to open up, and they don't want to get sued. They don't want to get people mad in like we're. We're we're we're we're trying to protect everybody, but we don't know how to do it and it doesn't matter what the sign, so you can show them an article that shows that masks are bullshit and they're they're still going to tell you, but you still going to wear your mask. Cuz we're playing a little game here, playing a game called keep people safe oh god, damned thing about. Take your vitamins, drink water, lordy, I'll, be worked out, get out in the sun. No, no. The government never says that you don't hear govern new. Someone is fuckin goofy slipped back here, he's not tell me to go work out and get in the sun. There's gonna be a. I think America can only take so much. I kind of at this from the beginning, like you can keep American locked down for a little while two weeks for weeks, and then people start saying you know what I gotta go I gotta go make something happen. I gotta do something I can earn money as it People that are looking around saying ah well
I don't really need Ernie my right now, they're the ones that are saint. Everyone stay in your house and don't come out more. I'm ask our. I would get a doctor come the three thirty Tom. I think I got your positive this time, one positive so far. We have forgotten what my goddamn healthy people in yeah yeah. I've had now about seven, no eight tests, one two, three, four, no swabs about forty, four, no swabs and for anybody tells me personally still come out negative every time, but it does in the thing that he said- and this is doctor, the very smart guy and a young healthy guy. Isn't that doesn't mean they have been exposed to a major immune system. Did his job really does nothing to people are saying people saying? How will you got lucky. You have been around seventy had it was not a know. Many of the people that I test, a positive or in a family with the other people that are, so in that family are negative, so they have. They been around these people for fuckin weeks and they don't. Why because they have a better immune system, particularly children. So
I'm in a win win situation out, because if I had it, if I too, Supposin was no factor, Howard, throw you beat it now. Even if I didn't have enormous a hazy, I beat it I'm in a win win But I know but would depend. Upon what you're results are. I know nine people that have had it now and out of those people only one of em, about- and that was my friend Michael YO, and he got a bad from if thrill easy to track flew all the way to New York, no sleep. What was the date? He was in January with genuine Jamie. No early February, you're late January March, shown new Yorkers marked bear beginning so you'll end of February and February was here and then he went ok, so you left here that we can work in Europe. No sleep right flies in New York. Does radio does tv else? It does is comedy gigs. No sleep does gigs. The next day same deal. Does promo all this shit.
Flies back home. No sleep gets up in the morning drives to Vegas with his wife and kids. The fuckin kid screaming. The combat drives back home. That night hangs out with his wife's family in vague and drive back on them, so it ours in the car just that day, then the next day is gonna additions day after that has got additions than boom hits the Wally's fucked. I feel like shit, you felt like shit, but always mom got it. She also testified beat it in a day how long you down for whose, after a week, but he ran himself to also vitamin d deficient. It's all those things ran himself down. Vitamin d division doesn't take care of himself, but but he thought the perfect storm of exhaustion and Travel Travel fox. You fox you yeah night that bleeding into this I was tried. I been traveling old time. My whole life met a fact, but
down is no most consecutive knights have ever spent with my wife that since we ve been married- and we ve been married for twenty years most concerned you know I was in the Navy in the Navy has two point on trips and then, when I retired was working with consulting all the place is gonna may yet so it's been how to cool hanging. When my wife night after night are these are FDA, approved, kids to soar. Good too, totally fine, I'm gonna find out for real fully LE jet doctors pumped forty hide. You think I think I've had it or not what you think yeah, I would say, because your kid you're youngest kid didn't get it get sick and then the other people dig it sick. What no one got a badly families very healthy another year, your daughter's, a savage, your sons, a savage. I would imagine you probably had it thinking about all the places you been about you about it as possible for the antibodies refugee Jitsu guys. I've got it all
got coughs yeah I am plus plus. On top of all this I mean my Jim examples in my Jim, oh yeah, Reno. We got all kinds and we have a lot of people that show that my job, because I just want to train, I want to come check it out and my Jimmy big and we ve got thousand members strike really add two thousand member states. Not just energy. Tourism was without because I'm a man, fitness and sending in California. But you know so it's a big Jim and there you know every two thousand members Blemmyes they're, all interacting with you know three or four other people outside of the Jim, if not five or ten people so and litter. Sweating, each as mild, complete! Oh yeah, that's another thing! That's another indicator. When I got sick, my main trading partners Guy Andy, any bark marching with all the time he got sick and in his girlfriend got sick whose also justified Mme fighter. She got sick too, so we'll see. I'm curious its heart when you train hardy, get sick. Its part farther the thing to when you break down your
body in your home. Your immune system gets, you know when you are one of those that Gaza trains really hard. You do have a tendency to get little colds european system its test to hear something. I'm noticed when I have downtime like let's say this: happen. To me a few times, I'm going to Montana and of super stoked and go up there and chill right soon. As I get up there get sick, Real. It's happening me like maybe three times where I I find we have four days or five days were, I you know, don't have anything scuttling to go up there. Ah, monsieur bow I'm going to chill and I get up there. It's like my mind, switches and all of a sudden, I get sick. It's like I saved up illness. To where I know I can be allowed to get sick. That ever happened to you now, but there's a good argument there for leg, just the way, you're mine.
Trolls your whole system, the cause your mind is just like paddled through the fastest metal slayer in the back row at at at at at at the top down. Everything is go. Go, go in there. Its silence by like where we ve been up to I feel like that happens I was wondering if it ever happen, you because it's it's. It's happened enough time that I'm talking about my best examples, campaigns that motherfuckers never set, and if he sick still runs anywhere, is going a little bit or cough, but at all the people that I know anybody who lose consistently pudding the kind of hours every day that he does. Everyone sixty miles in area bucking day, sometimes a marathon, sometimes a marathon everyday. While you worked eight hours a day and then it gets home and lifts weights. Is all you runs. Reps gets wrapped him with his boat every day, eighties lifted and he's lifting every day
every day he doesn't take days off that fucking guys, never sick. If he sets out the next day run it again, you will get his instagram its age, great data. We have therefore- and I do think you something to force in your body- to consistently constantly perform totally Maginot like Olympics right during the Olympics for wrestling, let's say, and you ve got your whole. Entire life is on one day. If you get sector right with anything bad happens, adding a beer don t. Those big moments like that are far too many you're you're so stressed out to sea mean system is, is super jacked, but I think is a there's a thing about peeking for a bigger whether it's a fight or the Olympics are some verses, maintain
inconsistent conditioning there very different things? Like a good examples, TIM Kennedy, Jim Kennedy went through, I believe, two camps in a row camp of fight. I canceled cap training went to another full camp and then, when he fought, Kelvin gassed lumped hit. That has never tired and it was gas and out the fight and as a real good indication from all involved that is because of over train. I know that when I would train fighters you could So we see when they would overturn it. Wasn't a big question: you'd go and you'd have a fighter, that's whatever level at. Let's say, let's educated, cause, I'm trying to judges rhythm- and every day in order that they feel a certain level and then one day you come in and you train with another just a day just suck and our towns, there came in two days off: go eat, some stake cause. We know how two percent that their overturned hunter percent weights of aids to
some say yeah. We tell them. Definitely, let's mistake. You need at stake. Jetsam get some stake in you. We're just give my elk just given just one good piece, a backdrop. Just try. Just trust me. Run through a fuckin wall. Yet it's that really weird thing about watching people go through camps through fight cans and you I really I basically don't train fighters anymore, whether you stupid, because I don't have time anymore, but you would you would work so hard make sure that the on that night that there are there yet there there and some people get in the cage and they do better than they would when we do some people in the cage and they don't do is good and you got your Jeremy Stevens a great example cause, especially when he first out started training with me, not is not with us anymore, but when he first,
The train was like he was a white Bell ingenuity, but man, when he got in a cage. He would just elevate man like mentally psychologically elevate and he would perform a way better. In the cage and- and I bet other fighters that you get like they would be kicking people. Asses in training and they get the cage and its downstairs, and it's so hard to see that so hard, Sometimes these guys are very committed and their working hard and they're doing great and they get in there, and it is the psychological thing where some people are dwarfed by the moment. Very interesting say, as some people are also afraid, of the embarrassment of losing that's a big one, and they can't trust the process they can't just they can just remove them so lives and just go out there and fight. He do far more tired, all little paper, not
To any great extent, there's a guy who JOR saint Pierre brought into is training camp. When he's doing the ultimate fighter. John John Paul, scar, Bosky and he's is french savage, my tie fighter, who would get drunk every night, showed up at training, Gs Peace, camp, drunk like you now, all night and use in Vegas reins of the ultimate theirs in Vegas drinks. All night shows up in the day the next day and fox everybody up, and they like this is so embarrassing. Guys we're like devastated, disguise, literally came in holding he's got a cup like from like one to go cops and one on Vegas clubs he showed up in the morning sitting of fine. It is it's kind of hilarious, looks like a guy if she'd be driving Ann Arbor, ok, he's not built like savage. He just his mind is just he's: got the I don't give a fuck he's, got it down and was
in a world champion more or fighter champions at Le Pen, stadium in Thailand and just Maison fighter. Well You know I always hear about their comparisons of a black belt and you just versus a wipe out right. Someone is known of and its real real obvious, but when you at a high level of my tie its very similar, maybe not quite a much as there's always this idea that well, you know I at least know if I throw apply least know as a human, how to throw a punch there's no idea right. There's some a normal human has no idea of how to do in our mark zero. At least know have some concept of how to throw a punch. So there is like a punch chance, but I remember first I must part with a real more tiger. I was I felt like a white bell. Ok, because I would think about throwing a kick and I would get you know, kicked myself I would think about it and get kicked out. He knows exactly what more do. Just like a wipeout jujitsu. You know you, you can predict everything that they're gonna various sorry
I'd like to see us up amid luck, no six back I mean literally looks at you guys. You saw that guy show a bit like this deadline. Mother fucker, just just is he showed up straight from the club me. You can kind of town he's dead, and it gets into starts training with these guys. It's even get some actual draining manage to stay where they are humiliated. I mean he was rag down. These. Do it's beaten the shit out of a drop in on its legs like nobody, but it's that the problem is a world let us take box and these guys just really have no idea how to handle is move men and the skills that he has,
the people under estimate, people don't think there's as much of a difference between like a black on Digital and what would be considered an equivalent you don't world champion and wait. I oh yeah, there's a big their step by step and a step in the ring and she was suggesting I sometimes get cocky about that buddy mine. It was taken them may fight and it wasn't doing any striking, who is doing very low, striking and he's a really good ground and I said, do you know how you can toy with a guy on the ground and they really have no chance, because Jago people can do that. You standing, I do you have to understand that the fight start standing. It's not like you still like as our api rules. Restarting the guys back, and you know you have a really good chances, many em. If you get a great runic choke, MRS, not that is you start twenty feet away from the guy and you're standing, and you know you have to close that distancing you're, not a great wrestler, either yellow that's the key
on it right jack. It's a giant fact occur. If you did, it least, if you wrestling aware, at least I know I have a decent children are taken about yes, decent chance and even that's no guarantee anymore. Why go back to mark shorts when you fought in the USA in marshalled? Fought New Zealand fought one. You have see five, but that's what you want to see like a World champion olympic Gold medals top of the food chain, Reza you're only you your if he wants you to being like you, good luck thrown that poncho kick because you have no chance. Going to cause a distance and drag you there unless you have really good take down defensive, but back then, when you ve, big, daddy. Rich people who really have at last. They were wrestlers, didn't really have good. Take down defence, it had really been established as part of the holes he'll set of Emma may yet he basically had what you came in there with your karate That's it you're, Malta guy! That's you got your hope. You land that elbow before that guy clinches with theirs. There is a overall strategic advantage to grappling yet because you can
was a distance and if you're gonna punch me, you have to get close enough to be to make. Jack Odin around which mean I can grab hold you did you down? That's why that's why the early you sees it was like a like you're gonna get close enough either puncher kick me and when you do that, I grab all the union also the chaos factor, especially in a street fight the chaos factors like bodies are flying, is bad timing, the clinches habits. Only Gary, you know you'll, so you watch the occasional street fight where a guide tease off on some wrong guy and lands, the perfect punch, Knox Merkel that does happen. You know it also happens malay. While the share mrs and then someone trenches and then the worst in the world: is the fight a grapple or whose good it take downs when you're? On the concrete? is the absolute worst in the world they get soup lax on your head on the concrete me one of the worst thing that could ever have basely getting hit in the head by the war the well. This is why I do when I talk about them what we can self defence you you
Did you to for self defence, but do you know you should let a street I go to the ground? Here's here's! How it works out, give you come to me and you want to fight me and you, like square off. Like a boxing stance, I can run away from you. I can just run away. I can just run away. I would give me I want to fight you. If you want to kick me, I can run away from you like theirs. Primary self defense is I'm just going to run away from you. When you grab ahold of me now everything's different. I can't run away anymore now. I have to actually know how to handle myself in a grappling situation. So that's why I start with Jiu Jitsu and look We learn boxing one more time, undressing, absolutely no doubt about it, but the Firstly, you need learn is cause. If you want to fight me, I can run away if you Square often didn't you know you put your dukes up, come on or you push me good, I'm running away, that's fine I'll, take it but would soon you grab hold me now I got up.
But because I can't run and await run away to a problem as the eager where people dont know how to fight and someone put their dukes up and they decide to see what they can. Do they decide in that moment to either fake it for just like see if they can possibly hit the guy and they get a bank, so my tease off on them Think that saw. I think the whole thing would see tee right now. That's why I think the popularity of Jujitsu is going to continue because its of law as part of fighting same with russian Jude grappling in general, I think he's going to kill. And you to get more and more popular because because of city as a parent you're not look in here. What I really want. My kid sparring alot when their thirteen right now there's not to an apparent that are saying right now. It's not a good idea, so I think, but you still want your kids. Fight right? So how are we gonna do that while we are seeking to genuine wrestling and let them have base and then, if they get older hey, should they not? How to point is absolutely
should they? The boxing ring, sometimes do some more time matches absolutely. You should actually do that as a human, but you know you can do that when you're seventeen- maybe sixteen you can start getting that stuff in, but the kids Jujitsu because anything else better. I completely agree- and I think, with martial arts, but striking it's good to know just to note distance to understand where you save worry, not safe and understand, tells understand, what's happening. When someone does this, when someone does this and then there this is common. When they do this, this is like you should know that some people don't know that that you, you should know how to protect yourself, how to keep your hands up how to duck under things. You should know that it should. You should understand the timing. We should understand distance and timing. Those are important things, but fuckin swinging knuckles with some guy in the street, is so goddamn dangerous confirm what you don't know. What he knows and your everyone's vulnerable everyone, every person who gets pungent, evasive, vulnerable and if you just want to have,
some sort of a kickboxing match with a man and a concrete guy. I, via I advise clench and trip. I advise get out of there now get out of their advice. Yet definitely if someone wants to start some share with you absolutely better after swore He you to get the fuck out, does that's the whole Kid Box teach those planets, hey, there's going, be problems, there's going to be bullies. If you can, you dont need to fight him yeah and what's our I am from a hit me up in some ways: don't people changes to turn to do too has hit me up. I I've tried it. But I dont want to try to try to decouple times, but I don't like to fight and I'm like hey if you dont, like the fight to fight you more than anyone else should learn Jujitsu, because if you know did you to Europe, probably your chances of having to fight will go down a lot just by the way you carry yourself just away by Will you present yourself the chance of you? Have
If I go down a lot also, would you jitsu you're involved in real life struggles the thing about like career, howdy sparring and a lot of point like light sparring. Is it's not the real ok that comes with an actual fight, whereas Jujitsu is full blast. I'm trying to get you its force. You get used to full blast, you get you get accustomed to it. You know what to expect. If someone swings for you clench with them, you know what it's like to resist with a one hundred percent non compliant body. Now, some of like fuckin really trying to get away for you. Really it's not like placement in you, you can go full out when you know where this brings us right back to play. Software yes well Injury, ANG set at best. He said. I think that every police officer should be a purple boat. That's about that's! An incredible statements are good level right. It's like an attainable level within a couple of years, but
With a couple of years. Man you get. Your ass kicked if kicks some you viewed illegal Purple Bell is basically a black belt who hasn't done enough time. Yet solid is meanwhile you ve got past Bluebell Bluebell is I put in the time I've learned. Do some staff- and maybe I do this- I might make it I might make purple belt like you. Basically, everybody gets a probably one Hang in there. You are a fucking black belt with better say, you're, a black belt in Jiu Jitsu you're, going to be a black belt in Jiu Jitsu. Just keep fucking going. You already have exhibited enough technique that you could actually one day chief, that just keep go there and the amount of conference end and men some clarity that cops would have if every cop was purple bow Maybe a maze amazing, nothing better than could do that
and somehow make that happened in good idea for Andrew Yang, the horrible video, the sky in law with this lady and he's too is easy but he's talking this lady and she's non compliant grabs Ernie. He fucking brew strengths, sir to the ground, throws runner stomach and then gets a rear could show. Can people are film this and yell it's a terrible, runic, Choky Tele sucks. The whole thing is terrible, like I couldn't imagined a black belt ever handling it that way ever ever virtual. You wouldn't be so threatened by her. It's not physically threatening at all, and you wouldn't want to be, her and show how they could throw her around, like that, it wouldn't happen, wouldn't happen, fear that sphere- yeah, I and some of not only months go but might be legitimately Lastly, we put hands on somebody, I mean. If you put hands on people, you know you don't have to do what he did and that such remedying the video, but Don't you know you know you don't have to do that. I think he's just a pussy look,
the video like. I just think you just want to throw us wait around, which is another thing you wouldn't do if you know how to fight that's part of why a lot of people act like that is because they really dont know how to fight and that's really, they deigned to really dont know how to do that to a grown man. So when they're doing to someone who they can do it too, because they justs bigger they they do it, they they'll forced them to impose them. So the b a bully it states. Here well to say, but you wouldn't like us, your black belt. Do somebody does the maximum amount of confidence? It is exactly the same with kids yeah. I posted some of a few months ago, but some do some Bali thing it popped up and I said hey. If you want to stop bullying, you know have kissed her you're getting more die. Rustling bosses have in school this always asking kids in school and here's the thing people fought. Said. Not only will it prevent them from getting bullied, it will prevent them from Bali.
Ass, which people don't honest. People cannot comprehend what that means in it exactly what you just said. If somebody actually knows how to fight and you ve been humbled end. You been be down and you ve been choked. Do you know what that feels like, and you know what it means, and you know how that feels. The chances of you look. You could still be an asshole, but the chances You becoming a bully, are way less. Well, then, if your insecure and scared and have a veto trying to make up for your ego by but by abusing people, that's who becomes bullies with kids and with adults who represent them where's, the more you train, the more secure you are. The smaller ego is the more you able to step back and see things clearly, you'll, that's one of the horrible things about that. The George Floyd was the other cops they're, not detached from the situation. There all wound up in it and Digital teaches you and fighting teaches you that if you do and if you allow yourself to get wrapped up in a stuff, you're gonna, do
made by decisions. I think also for kids a lot of the reasons why they do horrible shit because they have too much fucking energy jacked. Up with young warmer, oh yeah, testosterone, stars Torone and an anchor time answer brow it's kind of fun right. You know, like you, be it's kind of fun. Like there's mayhem going on. I went out of what at the right word. Am I a jerk for saying that I don't know when I was a kid that kind of him. I wanted to be a part of it. You know reef and you're talking when I M A, and I was asking them to do prince between, like the the I d to riots was an editor and under three ronicky those those riots and these rights. Those riot. He was like those were the people that kind of instigated in where did in perpetuated those rights. Those were real like gangsters much
collars were making those things happen. This one these rights were he's got. These are kids. These are kids, that drove down from riverside these kids that what you know and sure some of their some of their attitudes as a caters been you know, injustice against police. We want to stand up to that, got it and then he said of there's a criminal element as well that are legit normal robbery, crews that are saying ok, we got some good cover right now, let's get in there and make some new steal some stuff we probably won't get caught, but that's that's a big difference. So you do have an element of kids that are like. Oh There's some mayhem, no on There's some mayhem going on guess what seventeen year old boys like they like? May him they like Marsh pits Frankie, you love that's done. That was my childhood. If there was some may have, I wanted to find it right and that's the fuels these
Oh boy behaviour, normal boy behaviour, especially when those boys are getting told, talked about, for example, and there being locked up and houses right now, with their fleet there got freakin steam coming out of their years and also in the conflict to stand out. Why smash windows and never get free sneakers has nothing to do with George, It had so many things to do with so many different steps, so many different factors that collided together on that one day. Yeah! It's it's now. This will end up in an hour ends up either. An answer me get the fuck out ally gone. Her looks like it looks like I don't see the benefit. I want to come, come back and visit a lot, but it just says not not smart place now, I'm on unfortunately manage either did here unfortunately by the ocean, the ocean, guy, yeah and so there's really limited choices in the world.
Really that's up problem, they kind of got me you that connected to the ocean. What is it about the ocean that you, you always post pictures of the sunrise, an ocean De, I don't think, there's no count surfing just gone. You just go into the ocean in plus my my life was kind of Venus you'll deems was always we always had that it was part of our life. You know, part of our life was the ocean growing up in the ocean just there's some avenue, Yes, I guess, for me it's a huge like nature thing right know: people you should be good, give you gotta, go I'd go? Hiking mountain? Go go Montana and hike around see without feels like go to go to Idaho check that out, go to the mountains. Go to California amounts. If you feel different, you feel differ. If your humbled, you feel small, you feel perspective so, the ocean does that for me and it just mind clearing
right you go out surfing, like your mind, is clear sky like you did to hey you gotta get out there you don't even know what you feel like union here, yet with a good, rolling jujitsu and you say, while at able, you dont, barely even remember cause your mind is just gone. You'll. Just monkey might then is totals end state same thing with there being in the water. For me surfing same thing like oh I'm out here and my mind is just empty its monkey mind in, and I think that's really good for you plus the fact. Two tumbling, plus the fact its healthy so yeah. I just have a strong connection to the ocean and, unlike my sons, real Waterman. You know he's out. These are all the time I hate do that to him and then my little daughters, gettin her surfing so yeah. It's just one of those things. Men yeah, I get it, there's a reason. Why surf towns like like tat? that are near the ocean or chill You get humbled by the negative view so seriously. Look it. I've found
of water over there are stupid. You ain't shit people say what what makes the seal team so good in one of the major components is the ocean was when you How to do an operation that involves the water. It just socks it just everything about it, sucks everything about it: sucks, you're, git, nope, you know your parachuting from a plain into the water. It's night time, you got both ears, freakin parachute like drifting around Are you gonna get your motor started? It's freezing cold boats flip over and you're gonna drive that boat to the beach and you're gonna drive through the surf zone. Your weapons are covered with sand, your freezing cold, it's just everything, sucks everything socks about it, so that's kind of your starting and by the way you having conducted your operation, get you to hear haven't even started the operation and your freezing cold you're, tired. Your radio got flooded out your your night vision. Goggles are freakin filled with sand everything sucks, and now you gotta conduct your operation. So, in order to
survive that way on a regular basis. That's one of the things that makes this you'll teams good is: where were you to this one additional component. All the time that you always have to deal with. You have to figure that out. You have to build a got through it. That's right. Basic seal turning goods. Put you in the water for longer this put you in there. We have to develop an attitude that embraces the suck. Oh yeah, the Fisher. You actually enjoy it in some way. Some crazy way that you know it sucks like video that I was quote. Do you your video good dude? I listen to that in my head. All the time and I must have watch the video tiny times and listed are played on this part castle is four times, but I hear it when I'm training I give up running hills and I'm fucking exhausted in there's like another hundred yards to get to the top of the hill. I hear good could give you ass. It means your fuckin doing good well up to what. What are you to watch your choice without you
but try you know cry at all. What I threw it notes are now actually good during it does make this happen, and if you can do I also do then, the sauna, what I'm exhausted and the sauna- and it's like hundred ninety degrees. Ninety minutes engines, Donna, thirty minutes ashen, my good socks means it's. Gonna have a in effect on your body. Gonna get that hermetic effect. This is a the heat chart, proteins, pussy hanging there good If you wanna, if you want to do something, that's worthwhile yeah, it's gonna suck with just gonna shock and you might as well enjoy that part of it. Yes, yeah a mark myself to shouldering I do you make, may find yourself our time. I get pissed it that little part of my brain like tobacco, really either You gotta! Listen to you not happening, not happening eighties. That, like these
Do you think the kids books, you don't I mean, put those things- those kids books, like there's a one of the kids books talks about this hell, horrible hill. You don't like this. What's this, which can face horrible hill and did what you going to do? You know it's going to suck. He's gotta do yeah, you just do it, but the thing is: it's always sucks. While it's happening, it's always fuckin horrible. But then, when it's over a feels great that you got through the suck- and I don't think you more people who don't experience suck, they don't expect instead feeling of conquering suck yeah. That's the that simple thing to try and remember: yeah, you remember it. I remember it. I remember what that does or even when it sucking I'm like. I know there's going to feel. I don't know how those items- and you know what I actually I know of other feeling. You know is when you don't do it in the end of the day, comes you I dude that was pathetic. You didn't even know you and that's the worst feeling. That's the feeling that really makes you sick and so between
a carrot and stick Kara being like. I know this is going to be good and stick me. I know at the and the day, if I put my head on the pillow- and I was a bitch that doesn't feel good. I want none of that war is everyone of all time? Is it is being supported? You satellite is also when you're a type of person that wants to achieve, and so he was trying to get things John. You are trying to push yourself when you fall short because of cowardice, as it is the worst feeling that or just just failure any failure. The reason why you would choose one of the reasons why I mean at least I can speak for myself personally. Do things so hard is because I felt that sting of failure. I you need to know what that feels. Like a special.
Wit. You need to know what quit yeah see. That's it. You need to know when your own, and you need to hear that that fuckin sting feel that sting so that when it comes up again like not today, Betcher not today been here, but four keep going, keep go and find a way, but there's something about good just even saying it makes me smile really does it. Works really does work, because it's an attitude changer and I use of the song saunas really easy saw that I just fuckin thirty minutes. He just deal that, but there's something about those last eleven minutes that you can get near headline. Fuck me really probably to good effect by just leave now, there's like all mine games, he play but just say good as suck God I started start smiling. You can rationalize exhort rationalizing of. Why will you know these last four minutes? What really makes a difference, a shift in perception, and I always noticed that from listen
the music. When I run like there's something about listening to a great fucking song, when a great song kicks on when you give em I'm running in TED Nugent, strand come to something about stranglehold, because it also has a double meaning right: it's Jujitsu drank the fucker. You know you like this, so when you hear that here I come out can can one. I can write extra angelic where the fuck is that energy coming from, what's coming from my mind, right, the music stimulates my my kicks in those endorphins and then all this I got an extra gear or how come I can't just conjure up that fucking extra year. I think you can you. Can you gotta figure? Do that all the time that always is horrible to see light in a fight when a guy either he loses a fight after you lose. The fight is raging, he's all man, but he was just gassed raw. He was just gas. Where was that? Where was it? Where was now right there too
half minutes ago happiness and I'm just overcoming anxiety for fighter. Sometimes it's just that when it's over and the plug is pulled, you know it's over like FARC, then their angry enraging, is realize they failed. They did manage their energy correctly. They did manage their mind, their anxiety, yeah. Exactly the same feeling loser doctor, I'm so hot. I myself, when everything I've ever done wrong. Everything I've ever said long deserve every thing to say, I hope we shall be in them a minimal workin out. Sometimes it I'll think about and go back, but This also that that's Orinoco yourself yeah and that dead keeps you going that key. That makes you achieved site people, then it's easy to just kind of go out there and get things done, but it's not its debts. Most people, don't do it yeah. You know I don't see the lot right and some people are like
Look, I'm not saying you should stringency by average to sleep much. They can't. I don't see black people lycaena wanting you see more and, unlike Bro, wish I could I wish there wasn't this little figure back my head go and you know you ve. Actually, actually you you do a lot more. I now what about this? We're not that one, The other thing, but that's what's going on in my head, is not something that's going Gee. I have to get up like no there's a thing in their go and you better get up up the tracking on you, the watching you you better get up here. It's happening back out there. Strain and ardor like that's. What's in my head, is not in my I'd like to know you please let the freaking that led to weaken powers of the world. Allow me to go to bed at night in just pass out and be like good. I'm satisfied with my life right now. I wish I could feel that for freaking eight hours a night, it ain't there, it ain't there. It's like open
we'll talk about still hungry, I'm starving all its might stay hungry. You have to be here. I know the difference. It doesn't that's the thing and you soon as soon as I get somewhere, assume- they get somewhere like where else where me to go and you go somewhere out yet again soft hours, One of ever dynamism on Monday, though be a thing, well become satisfied and calm. Now it with everything, that's good that comes now, there's an equal fear of becoming a pussy. There, is a fear of now becoming lazy and becoming, like second rate and God dammit, there's no end There was no so now I don't even think there's an end now, there's Stephanie Nonaligned! That's that's! What's funny about shooting the shooting
right is was full I find funny about. Shooting above is anger, aggression, really doesn't help you got all at all. You know what a fox you upon that's. What I'm saying is anger and aggression is all fast, twitch shit to its movement, whereas the bosses You gotta have the mind of no mine. You gonna just just execute in just stay completely focus on that Ass, totally detached gas app and a man who's gonna sit there and its a noose. Really how it's totally news in front? For me, you like in the competition and expert, I always the competition I had other than inside, the gym training, Nurse is fighting and that's all fast stuff. It's all like expire oceans and movement so any time with his danger and in an anxiety and fear your bodies geared up to go quick move, quick for with hunting
It's the opposite when you're drawing back on an animal all that anxiety like you'd, better, get that quick at your head. You there's no quick, there's exit you didn't calmness day in the zone. Nothing is exists other than the process of executing the per. Big shot the same thing with shooting YO. You have you drop ass, fast, you drop out. I should point out that weapon you gotta go I, like you just let that thing go uses guys myself included, like IE overshot, had placed before yes next year. This, said plates you'd see me or something someone else. They miss one and if they don't fall, if they don't let that go right, then everything as part of wheels fall if you, if they miss one and then they train you, usually our dismiss wanted just keep. Shooting like a dent. Even happened. Maybe go back and get it where you gonna have to go back, get it, but if you go, How did I miss just a total and
We'd, never disasters, a grave video. The TIM Kennedy put off of him, my shooting on the range and are you know he puts dummy rounds in he's going around any hits a dummy round and click. It he's a little that triggered Ashraf triggered discipline is like there was no flange shows no doubt that have just click, there's no movement. It was perfect. You know what What you're trying to achieve what return or do you try either? The last that you want to see as quick, weird fucking when I first started: shooting rifles like that's what I was I was. I would experience that thing. We are anticipating the writing. Thirty of of three hundred women, so it's gonna, kick to it. It's a boom? It's like a louder, louder kicking gun, so there was no round the chamber, and I apologise I myself, don't like you bitch. I give it to learn how to stop doing that. One thing to do Trusting is learning how to shoot a bow, radically increase
accuracy with a rifle radically, because it so still do so much miss everything's freehand Raymond rarely shooting a rifle and animal free and usually trying to find a rest unless it's like inside of you know, sixty seventy yards probably going to try to rest arrest. You should have three hundred yards shot with a rifle freehand, but with a bow, everything's freehand. So whether rifle? I just knew that all was just squeeze squeeze squeeze. Let it go off, just let it go out with Greece is booming like when I start shooting at Terran Tactical, shooting and arrange. The easiest thing for me was a rifle like all got to do. Is a squeeze in ITALY. The trio go off, I'm so used to a bomb where it is so many moving parts and using your back and you, let me go off a surprise shot. It made a big difference in my rifle accuracy that those when when Dudley was teach me how to shoot Andy was there too. So ain't
it was like translating for me he's ok what he means. It he's trans any it to seal, pistol, shooting and they're kind of like communicating to each other in the Navy said: hey what he soon. As I get Francais folks like, ok cool gotta die as awesome to have have freakin Dudley the first person that ever chose me anything about arteries, doubly saint, hey, here's, a bow and here's exactly how to shoot. You idiot and unlike thank you as pretty God, damn lucky I mean we're both we're lucky in that regard, I learned how to both from campaigns and John Doug she's pretty lucky. Those are those like the World champion, Jeff, yeah yeah, that's that's Jordan and Kobe Bryant, Jordan and the bronze completely represent its we're very fortunate in it. Some there's something about hunting to that one
You it's. It seems like when you look at the surface, it seems so straightforward and then once you start doing it, it's very much like martial arts, Wheeler cause damage on a layers this year, as so many layers and then, when you're hanging out with a girl, a cam or garlic doubling you hunt with them and you see them hunt you go like this. Is I get it the black bout, racism, Mondiale champion area, so exactly what it is. So so crazy. So great, He did see those guys inaction and just to be like listening to Doug. These telling me about what a freaking Elk is gonna. Do I'm like? Well, I guess that's that happened. Oh and it just happened. Yeah it's it's manners and they would Dudley too was like he's. So in cooking it to be so good, a cooking. It's like you get the whole lifestyle.
Thing from him. You you get like this learning. How does the art of archery, which really is an art form an art form just like martial arts are and then this moment of keeping your shit together in the execution of a shot and then the big pay off. When that does happen, and then the hall arresting the animal carrying it out and then the meal meal. Afterwards, when you ve had a successful hunting trip, it's like goddamn we're in camp in Utah Dudley made that neck. That neck rose with that with all appeals and the Bell Peppers holy crap. That was good, but it was also so good cuz. You knew what went down. You know you were there when he shot the Elk and it's all, it's all so crazy. It's it's! so satisfying that I can't imagine it not being a part of my life and not in that meet not being a part of my diet change, So it's it's too bad that its
more available to people who has not it's hard. It's there's high bob for accessibility, its version and we got real lucky offer sure we get a hunted, the desert ranch. You touch this incredible places. Private problem, it's all wild animals is no fences, but it's private property. So there's not a overwhelming number of people are, does a lot of guys that they try to go on public land and unless you will in a high, can twenty miles and there's a lot of guys at a willing now to hike in twenty miles, because there is now this culture of these really fit. Backpack haunters like these errand Snyder type dude. Put these fuckin heavy pacts are and they just go, they their training for the. Moment, all year round, like Erin? Has it's crazy set up in his Jim? We has this elevated treadmill and then each
the treadmill on each side has like like Olympic BAR and you lift the bar, so you're holding weight and you going up this elevated treadmill. My Jesus fucking Christ, man, but that's that's what you have to do if you want to be mountain, fit to be able to do that, that's the barrier for entry to go and do the public land Hunt, everybody stops at the trail had everybody gets other car there and then how far you gonna go because he's we're gonna go twenty fucking miles in. Are you won't go twenty miles and it's gonna take eight hours and then come to when miles back out, moves on you can use that you have brought back. That's like there's, the totally legitimate budgets is illegitimate, gets and most those guys all had to learn themselves. They I'll teach themselves and they have all. We know we're real lucky that, like we get this amazing coaching so we're getting. Is this
John, even others, so many layers to em we're both car. I mean I've been doing it now. I've been hunting for eight years, bow hunting, for I guess six, six fish total rookie, I'm still it blew out- or maybe maybe on my generated by a purple about. Maybe I'm I get my purple about zones, but you know you go out with those guys. Their fuckin tend to be blackouts and it's like there's. Even though there is the amount is this barrier for entry. It is still possible, it still possible, but it's just like Jujitsu. It's like when you, when you talk in the blue bout, you'll keep fucking going here and you can make it you can do this. You know speaking a witch have to at least bring this up a little bit to clarify little bit. What I did to John Dudley on the
yet you man, he broke his neck progress working closely with you here is the only part of your message missing a little bit right. So I'm given him his wife. Like a blockage private, so you really his name. Is why Andy's their lit little? was there, so it was getting worse. You broke his neck, a farmer's wife and son, so I'm just completely on children and a K. This is this. This is that and I'm not even but even doing like this, that we are in one week and Andy Job, and me we did. We did archery, which I had never done before, then we did Jujitsu, which John had ever done before. Anyone gonna wind tunnel, which John and never done before, and he's God parachute Bobby Block, and so we did three things are kind of like a cool weekend- I mean that's kind of an epoch. We can really video. Let's be honest, so it's you just who time Tom, like ok, cool,
so I'm going over hey! This is the guard. This is the Mount going over all the basic stuff, I'm just giving basic overall kind of concepts. So I get done with that. You know, and I'm done but I'm done. I just dont. Look, ok, you great good introduction and then Dudley is like well, let's go a little bit and online. The wrong language out of all of us. I can hear so so so we say: let's go there and even that you know what I'm totally course. Of course he wasn't, I die, he wasn't mean and he would decrease in thinking. You could be it wasn't it. He wants experience. I shouldn't even said: let's go that way he was accused are taken which can we try? You know somethin like that, just being caught and I'm like absolutely man, no problem so So I lay down on the ground right and I'm like uses all what I do I go. You know just attack me,
I laid onawandah back on what just attack me and guess what he did, what he freakin attacked me. He like came at me and dud these a big, strong, athletic guys six. What does he six five lease, so he copied the key grabs in I'm children in know, I'm ok cool. He he comes out me. I think I grab me and so replace guard and then I sweep in and Matt and saw mounted in all. This is just too pretty chill and I put enough Z he killed, your right, which I have on only yeah You got your can have a law, have those good technique for doing it, but no big deal so put in these equal chalk he's. This is the thing that I really wish, I should have explained more because we hadn't ruled out like hey when you start to feel like you got. If you got a tap outright, he knew tap Albert. I kind of like everyone knows about out, so I put the choking on em right. Well, here, I don't know what to do so. He he's gone.
Having me, eddies pull you squeezing me so he's on the bottom. I mounted I've got these equal choking and in order to defend himself in his own mind he's squeezing me into him which, May I do my equal joke, it hurts. I mean it compressors, the choke, even more and would he dies facility. Basically, I put my hair. I make a fist- and I put my fist in sternum and then I you know, grab the form here. And an arch my shoulder suit. There's the neck right here. It closes it right, putting the first into the first into writing it a data trick. It's an air chalk. Gnarly ends just doing this and you can see that whole anew shrug. But as I'm doing, this he's pay making and pulling me into him urges I need only did it for us. Can any Tammany taps out loud idle, and I wasn't I just like all you know, born and then he tapped,
and the rest the stories. I guess I didn't know a lot about the rest. The strident already there s somebody wanted is not afraid of leisure, baby, yeah friend you'd like his high oil bone, and then it build calcium up around it. So he calls maybe one day and he goes dude. I think I got throw cancer. Is there something growing in my throat how to go to the doctor, get to nectar and he's like hey. Did you do something to your neck because there's a there's a hairline fracture, that's not now calcium deposit around it and he's like. Oh, I know what happened so I guess in my defence. Why don't we just get him in like a head norm Judas it wasn't that it wasn't like a big deal. It wasn't, it wasn't crazy, it wasn't crazy, it was just normal, be like if, if you grab, Somebody that showed up here. Like hey, you know I can you roll with me, you'd, be like oh cool, and you put them in a kind of whatever presented, something that you don't mark them. Maybe
do. Camaro problem is when you get used to do in certain types of jokes and then you're doing it to someone who doesn't especially that, where you got a fist, yeah and neck Now this is, I guess this is the only thing I make no mistake about it. Even though I was just chilling he was now he was gone, level, seven berserker mode, maybe such good ass? We, you know everything about people. There have never done jujitsu when they're doing it was. Someone is a black balls. They probably feel like taken just cargo, crazy and villages absorbing and deal with it. So they just try and see what happens when I go crazy. So now he this over my head, the orderly broke his neck the other was why I know one day I'm like on like we're up in Montana then, I said: hey man he's a geese. Its expertise at my house is, I think, travels our angle, bra you know you taught me how to do this. You brought me up here. You take me hunting, like you're doing all this autumn to marry you
the mandate. I really appreciate those young. You know you did for me my what niggers my MAC, it's awful rural. It's all good! Now, though, right o so there are many o on about that argument. It's all good between us is that we do everything Swazi things about. You know he costs. Oh no, he offs, hopefully I mean I've talked about it. I don't like to break it up a lot, but so this men there, that's fucking, whether through something nerds making him caso they'd have to private get in there and scrape it. So while we're hunting, he would be like and then look at me as they did such and such a hard at eight I would say, like I, you know I deem Mister it being bending mistress trading partner for twenty something years.
Up until recently. He never hurt me, and I never heard him never. I mean until recently yeah cause. He here here hurting me and he heard putting me in the dumbest passed away, I show. Two classes was like this is over a year ago, because I heard my archery for a while. I shall be. Last late right in his teaching and words can a role, but I come out he's like finishing the class and I'm cold and I'm yes just getting on the map, and he, So let me let me show something because you're late, and he gets a. He gets a straight. Like at least an american homey or a camera, but anyways he's a K. Trying I'll, buy straightening your arm, whole class is watching. You could try good I'll, buy straight here, I'm an ideological and so He puts me across he gets across. Society puts the it was an action of a career he says,
I'll. Try and isn't really bicycles eyes like straight arm calmer. He's about illustrate he's about. Might my arms here he's about to street? He wants me to try and get out by like doing almost like a hitchhikers names So he says, he's at get off my shirt, Norman. Ok, I shook my arm and he just in a millisecond. You could hear it or mocked me. Totally destroyed my arm or not only it was injured. Very bad. The first time in my life. I had to get a sling this bureau this guy comes over Medium Lester. He goes brow If he's such a nice guy he's our problem. So sorry- and he goes- I didn't Oh, your elbow, wasn't very flexible. I go broke. Elbow, oppose our flexible, their bone. Dude de needs it
in a task, as I know he's at least eighty six percent neanderthal at a minimum, the way his neck and shoulders move together, then you can see that do would like a big club for sure and a total total mutiny and a savant on the digital mouse a complete savant on Digital, Madame LA he's, the literally the missing. Let he's the link versions of the missing link, the link to Jujitsu expanding its leg lot: more modern jujitsu, it's gonna percent, something, MR on a plan that the statement that he made, the John DOE Her is become world famous, because data heard set it on my park ass. He said, Danglars just to him. Why would you enjoy? Why would you ignore fifty percent of the human body Donna her being the fucking genius that he is. Why would you India? Why would you so? Would you most? like you know, all the all these new things are coming right there. You, don't you see, Gordon Ryan, just an insane all these
guys that are really attacking legs now and by the way, just like Dean Gordon's, not only good in attacking legs he's getting everything, but I I was asking dean cause. I watched you know, Dean's done all these moves to me for years, you know, and just just over and over again this. What we do with does what we ve been doing. We ve been doing it since he one eighty cc win, win, Eddie, beat coils, when Dean one when he be Cockerell in the finals with awe fit what they now call fifty fifty, which he and I called Cocker go after that we called Cockerill notes are doing it for another, many many. Hi ten years regularly. I was there oh yeah. I wasn't there that year I was. I was there when Eddie. Been sending a wee wrong. I completed in Santiago DE ingredients, any I go and eighty compete in San Diego for the trials. I was there for that to anyone Dean one lost too big country, rain else. How I hear- and I did because
I wasn't very tat. We smart, I scrambled to position and I tried to get a. I am in fact I got a crucifix because I was kind of one of my go to moose get a crucifix. I get it opener when I shouldn't in the back and gotten points, and I didn't Roy Nelson, who is a great guy, he's a total stud heave. I got crucifix position and he like powered out of bounds. And so then, and each he beat me so much better. So than me and measured Useter anyways when he won that, like we were doing stuff so anyways right, my hobby, six how to go. Three months ago I was asking you it hey. Dina. Are you starting to see things that you didn't know right? when your watch could he watches Numa I said. Are you starting to see you do two things that you did that you didn't know like fetlocks foot, lock, stuff and ill at ease IKEA about three
four months ago I started seeing some things that I didn't think. So that's how long it took people to get to and then start to develop their own stuff, which, which is pretty grace while its fastening that, once the game moved into this sort of leg, lock heavy style that so many guy Craig Jones, Gordon Ryan and it is in all gary- tone in this- so many those guys that you're seeing this game gettin tighter and tighter with leg locks, they're in John Donna, her examines everything to because Donna hers bodies broken began. We compete in your many as an artificial hip he's got an artificial knee. His body is really for locked up and it is the other. His other knee is really unstable, so he can roll, but he can only roll very controlled with guys who understand his physical limitations and then you could see. How he understands positions. You get a lot at a rolling with em, there's a great video, actually Gordon Ryan, rolling with John Diner.
An Irish no not using strength it just flow rolling, but you you see how tactical he is and how head of every position he is and how his deep understanding of it in part of it is because he's teaching these guys and he's teaching them from position. Waking we do it himself. He can do a began. Can compete to get were all right all right, but but but he has the mind for it. So he seeing it from. Outside and he's. Also this fuckin really genius, human being so is able to break this down, and then he has a core group of ass. Is that understand what a great pleasure it is to have? His genius teach you It is not a coincidence that that whole hands- oh Gracie team, has become one of the biggest threats like that. The whole team is fit with fuckin, murderers and they're. Just to again emphasise the point is leg: locks are
part of the game, and there was a time period where people thought that leg locks would change the game completely and at a certain point, the defences for the leg, locks become known and all the sudden. You have to go back to the other parts. Just that's why you see guys like tone in writing. He doesn't always win with. He looks, but you have to rest them or you will lose right and the other guy it's good to really call to see those guys coming up. I mean, it such an unwise counts in a common up like I'm like like this, but I'm watching this development. Which I was, that kind of ground zero with the industry and the crazy thing is deem Lister hee hee as like, like a crazy savant, mind where I would create one thing for every whatever for every twenty things that dean created this problem,
Eddie and Nano don't Eddie as well as you do, but just the creative part of his brain is. What the most powerful thing was. Then, once people saw it like ok now we can build upon this ever Eddie. It's a hunter beset the greater part of his brain. Also, the fact that when I met Eddie he hated lifting waits wooden, live weight I would try to get him live weight of a climate of ways of programme of shit. Jingo live weight, so you This little tiny guy and had to rely on techniques, so he had to rely on trickery plus he was a musician rights or is always this creative guy and he smoked a lot of. Need to exercise thinking about things outside the box and is also this guy. That doesn't like people telling moon is wrong. So I guess you know you can't do that, ways like a really he would see. If I can and then he would find a way to do it and you know- and he just developed others like weird entries in two things in this weird set up, so people didn't see coming and why
see, sort of improved upon these and then started expanding upon them and in developing that whole tent planet system. I mean a real since sanely creative system does is developed based on his ability, just think outside the box I Jeff government training and my dream a long term teachers and other him he's the same thing where he small he's crazy fly support, He smokes allowed a weed and like that he would just do while things wild things I was at. I was at accurate eighty c. As with my son, my son, probably like nine or something and were there watching and Jeff covers about compete. This before I really was friends with Jeff, was doing a donkey guard thing back then he was doing everything he way They don T Guard had become super popular, but he was kind of in the beginning stages of it. So
I'm sitting and ex my son a word eighty cc, so it's it's a small thing and I go. I said in my Sonia Watch this guy, that's about come out, he's crazy and Glover comes out and he'd like just he falls on back flips, inverted guard and starts like just going in saying just doing insane things, and you know the rest. The matches our two guys you're playing Patty cake. Look there take down. Glover comes out, falls down. Friggin just do and all kinds of seven in summits, the dude and thirty thirty eight seconds and some looks me he was. I thought you men, like crazy I don't know you met crazy. I go yes thought you might like brood, yes, bring. These areas is needed in thick. I meant weirdly way, that's what weird creative thing is this one of the best things about learning jujitsu from a small person like those sites,
all guys they figure out? How to get around thinks me. There's been a bunch of oil or grace is a good example. The two Eddie glow you're, yeah? That's that's why I'm never a good! That's! Why I'm a bad person introduce people that Egypt, because these think oh yeah, of course year a gorilla outweigh me by forty or fifty pounds. I love. I always have Jeff clever on stand by my gemlike beetle. Oh yeah. Ok go trick glittering with that guy over there see what happens and when Jeff goes against a like a big, strong guy. You gonna get some there. They really get so disappoint. Themselves that so sad. He said he said the easiest people for hid, her love or big, like muscular guys, real, the east, the easiest people for whom the role with our big muscular guys like big Musket ass. He said all of love role at them. For so we see that so crazy.
Because most people get injured, rolling plotters, rarely inflexible. Now his gaze is next jacked up now, but I wasn't now that's a thing. It gets everybody's, the goddamn Latin, the net. You know, because very few guys strengthening correctly either. I think the neck is one thing that you absolutely should strengthen. I think you can get away with not lifting weights and doing jujitsu, but I don't think you can get away with not strengthening neck for very long here. That's it's one those things in it. Connects you to the rest of your freaking body, also use it. You use it more than you think especially me. I was my my favorite technique is probably had not choke. And you're using your men to secure that arm and once you develop a feel for whole An arm in place with that neck then make its work out,
You really you use a lot more than you think and if you can strengthen your neck it it's just is such a big advantage. It's also a big advantage and avoiding getting her because it strengthens the whole chain from top of your spine, all the way down? No that's! Why I'm, which is a big fan of that iron men? just use the right now when the river for the park ass, I was doing it. I took every fuckin day. Manna put that I have a lot and I bought one loved the email me, a bunch, electoral european targets can also between that, and you know, there's a few other back exercises and stuff that I think are or critical strengthen a lower back to its another thing. The guys always get jacked is the lower. Yeah, you, the weird thing is people people people's next get jacked up regardless, but does will they go through life? Doing whatever paperwork- and they end up with a bad neck yak is a vulnerable thanks are beginning, take care of it especially when you are abusing it when you are getting choked when you're, not tapping it's one of those things I judge people on their necks.
On the size of their neck. You have, I see some oilskins mechanism. We do and do some good smart, adjust sisters seem like you'd, be a good thing to have its that's the thing to hold your head on. Wait for the future when you're That is all jacked up and you go in and they just put you in surgery for two hours and come out. You got a metal spine. I am only the first words in Brighton Line, Yonah Gimme, metal, spine or any metal components inside my body you now and I'm gonna percent down must make it happen. He's got a fake dis, it he's got a titanic articulating disk which, where lower back is his lower back, had been so smashed and suppressed. That is dino. That's one things as white men. When you get older, they they shrink is your discs gets wished to the point and they start touching. You get to us, the noses do you think you can go too far with flexibility that a start
to injure you over the long term. Well, I don't think I can go too far with flexibility, but flexibility without strength. Perhaps cause may be that inflexibility like maybe you'll get like some muscle damage. You know when you are trying to push far that'll prevent you from getting disk? Damn maybe does is speculation, but I think its credit, it's so critical to strengthen your back. Man I mean I'm always do and reverse hyper than I do all these different. Like back extensions, I just think strengthening them, whole column and yoga in particular, and then the next iron just think that whole thing it's like how many guys just rely on their work out to strengthen that and they don't take it. As I say, I really
doing Jiu Jitsu. I really like doing more time. I want to put in the time to work out these areas house that he's back now. It's not a hundred percent sure. It's still function the little bit but he's rolling again, but he's got a fake disc disc. It's a titanium disc that they replace the smooshy part with this thing that rolls and moves, but it still creates inflammation whenever you like. I know Ronnie Coleman here last week. I know I wasn't in his whole Bacchus fused and terrible man made. You can't walk in. You know he's the king greatest. Olympian of autonomy is a fuckin amazing pro bodybuilder eight times will it be. I want you to analyze the document document, and it didn't really good man really just what a good guy great guy nice could be nicer, couldn't and in pain.
In fact in agony and still work, friendly and wooden, wouldn't have any other, were indeed talks about the days that he like. He was talking about squatting, eight hundred pounds and that lucky he said he's gonna do for two wraps and after the two wraps, got more and to this day thinks you should have got more. That's all. We talk about earlier as ASCII abbot at night Diggs it that's. Why he's a champion mean that really? Is that that's what made him a champion? You watch the video the west I'd versus the world documentary. Now I didn't with only say nice out to interview Louis Limit, our members hyper I've. Another piece of equipment to that belt, squat, machine or cash, is amazing and with all the weight on your on your hips verses on your back he's a fuckin wild do wyant. I want to go out there. He would love you man, he would love you he's. You would love him to man he's. That is who he is and he's got this fucking gym filled with barbarian. Are you
all their doing just trial. If the the maximum amount of weight they can live in saying market. My kid watch that and he had no he's just all about it. Now side, women, little bodies talkative Do we see me I can tell Arthur, go every year of Jamie and I were in his office interview a normal business where we did it. We actually know you another pod cast at West Ideologies, Columbus do and stand up and judges had interviewed. I just know a new dislike. I wanna get the guy in his Jim. To just amazing gives a tour the gem than we did a pike s. Does desk, it was awesome what a rare human do: yeah they don't make them like. Louie Simmons, but also a genius figured out like his disc, was fucked up and they were like we're going to fuse you and he's like well. Let me think of this. Something may compressed. I want to figure out some to make a decompress.
And strengthen that area, and that's where the rivers hyper came from, which I think should be a staple in regime that reverse hyper machine for strengthening the lower back and then an actively decompress and I've never felt anything better. So in Lucien Simmons mind it came out of his own brain of his injury that he came back from wizard and was squatting, whatever seven twenty nine world record at whatever's, the two years all given. I wouldn't recommend anything's. He does he does many years ago God is biceps retention and blew it out because it was too annoying to now be able to work out. So just went back to work out, a pot snapped back off no little cold, but there's no biceps pulled back craze animal get his shoulder redone, they gave me an artificial shoulder, goes back to the gym and they like MAX out today they met his friends, made him max out, to his shoulder surgery with an artificial shoulder like ok like this, that's just the culture, the cultures
Doesn't matter enjoys don't matter in the in the documentary The guy's within my goal was to hurt Louie when he came in the gym. Michael Of course there are. I wanted to get hurt. Push so hard that he got hurt. Then this is one of your body. One of his friend one of its trading partners. My goal was to hurt him. That's how culture, though, That's how you develop such a legendary place. You you have to have the sense of these are beyond what a normal person would consider a prudent thing to do: yeah and if people the p that could withstand that kind of pressure became champion, so became world record holders saw about the mind, Joggled does what it nobody knows. One year we just sit three hours, didn't give you a covert test now, three third, get some arouse, gets on. Thank by everybody. Thank you. And for turning into the show and thank you to our sponsors. Thank you to legal zoom visit
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