Cameron Hanes is a bowhunting athlete, "training intensively each and every day to become the Ultimate Predator."
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it, wouldn't you say very frankly, amounts will comment. First,
thanks for doing this package for people. Dont know Cameron, Cameron,
it is a famous bow hunter, which is
a rare thing, it's very rare that someone becomes famous as a beau hunter and in the most
only form a beau hunting ever you're famous for shooting the biggest most majestic north american animals with sticks throat.
That's what you're famous for you famous were taken out. Giant bugles L.
With a flying. Stick, that's
bad ass, dead Owens, a famous was the famous to me. You famous, I told him a friend of mine who hunting fannys personal trainer, and I said I'm doing its part,
as we Cameron goes all that's that keep hammering guy
dude. Ok, one other got you on one other guy, you're famous of maritime there's that there's three. I brought you up to my friend Ryan Callaghan, who works at first light, and he said oh yeah. I know what that guy is. So
people know you are a man, but you have become at least
can I say you have notoriety
say that. Ok, so notoriety from killing Elk with with flying sticks. How does one go about becoming famous, or at least it d,
internet notoriety from killing eloquence,
sticks. You know, I think, for me. It's just
I don't know- I just came up just like everybody else, so it's like so what
I've done. Canna gives other people that didn't have any breaks or disrupt your guys hope to chase our dreams. I really think that's it. I think
So people like me, well I'll, tell you how I found out about you
I watched a lot of videos on Youtube on online.
Their its, whether videos,
Anything that I find interesting.
And I saw this video this guy carrion rocks in his backpack gona pills, training for
EL counting, and I was like what blood is that, and I thought about us, like
that actually is a pre smart move like I've, never heard of anybody training for hunting, I
hunting when I shot that mule dear with Steve, vanilla,
I was the first time everyone hunting, and I was amazed at how tired I was like this is
did you like? I thought I was in really good shape, but when you call
when up those muddy hills in the Missouri breaks and everything's like sloshing, and it's only steep hills, and indeed
for six hours in a row like
exhausted your legs. Give rubber your lungs burn announced. I can't believe this I was thinking. I need a worker,
for hunting, I never heard of anybody doing that before until I saw you write well, it like elk
and you can get up it sometimes
five in the morning to get to where maybe you put them out to bed the night before and walks on out
before daylight, then you're hot, no day in and get back to camp after dark, maybe it eight or nine o clock that's a long day and then a long day. People are used to doing that. I mean well off new work out for me
ten hours a day, not only that, but you, if you shoot and Elk, then you have to take that Elk back
and you have to figure out how to carry it through the mountains. That's
It's really crazy because, like what's the biggest
give it a shot. Is probably
the Roosevelt boy I killed in or again in two thousand ten and were figure in a way about twelve hundred pounds
twelve or thirteen. That's a big. While I was huge who, how long did it take you to carry twelve
depending on that's on the bone, so once you quarter it and skin it and take the head
I've been antlers. How much is it
how much you carrying out about five hundred pounds
We had a quarter come in with the Hyde Cuz. I want to get a mount in the head and all that so, but you care about five hundred lb, but I had a few guys with me, so you know
a little easier yeah. I guess you have to bring legal, pat crew on their big animals and anxious as part of it, but that's
You know when you can go into the mountains or an elk lives every day and and, like you said, was sharp, stick, take it out, harvest it and then so you you're on its home court and then bring it back to your truck and back to your freezer. That's that's a powerful experience. You know! That's the whole! The whole thing is hard. Everything about it is hard, but to be able to do that, I mean it's given me. Confidence know that in wood
everyday life I can achieve things. You know, because that's about as tough as it gets from yeah. I've always said that
a very important thing for human beings, because if you dont go through adversity, you'd never know that you can. There's always gonna be questions and every time you do go through adversity, it sort of
ads on to your ability in your confidence in all walks of life citing this tattoo. That I have is
Miyamoto massaging the guy who wrote the book a five rings and when
was a kid. I was
competing martial arts tournaments. I read the book of ivory.
And I remember this- one quote once you-
I understand the way. Broadly, you can see it in all things and once you ve
on through the kind of adversity that you must go through to you now
nine miles into mountain shootin Elk and then bring that giant, beast back and then cook it like that. Is
That is you you
develop confidence in you develop a sense of accomplishment, that's very difficult to recreate them in that
to do that, I know how difficult that is, and so in training. I try to stimulate that as much as possible. I mean that's where the the Karen
a hundred thirty pound rock up the hill or for train of run a hundred mile ultra marathons. That type thing basically just want it
I want to stimulate their misery is I want to know what being miserable feels like if you don't ever know
you never know. Harrigan react. Some people might fold up quit, but so I'll try to get there in his
and as possible. How did you decide why rock you decide a rock? Why not like waits? We can measure waited strategies, go the rock
save more primal. I don't know. I just got here
seeing this rock run this mountain all times of in seeing this rock in as like to get that rock
the top of the hill, and so I did this seminar Kabila'S- and I said
anybody who wants to come up a minute go run the mount. Exemplary knows. I run this mountain, so they came in for the Kabila seminar in total
if you run them out and I'll give you a free dvd, just come, hang out, I just like to work out with people. Just you know I like to see people, people sacrificing
oh, I certainly to carry this rock up and we can all go. Do it and I figured I mean the raw,
fears about seventy pounds. I had no idea so I get up there had an empty pack and have everybody there now Margaret just hang out
on four seconds- is gonna. Throw this rock on my pack, and I lived at first, I'm at ever touched it now like. While this
one hundred seventy pounds, and so I ended up
it up to the top, and then we tried to take pictures trundle. I couldn't even live that thing over my head. Is Iraq adjust weirder to lift it out, so I ended up taken down
The mountain, unlike an obvious, is more than seventy on a figure. How much it is so is a hundred thirty pounds, but but it was just kind of unaware. My guess is how that came about now. It is now it's just my rock
Now. It's your work out right. It is now a u louder. Just pull rocks of the forest is real regulations about that. I may have posts that rock no it's still there, it's just carried up and down. I never take it out. I took it to the gym to weigh it, but it's back it's up on the mountains.
Ok. So would you do if you came there and saw somebody else, throw that rock in their back back? You like, hey man, was indeed somebody did. I think they.
Seeing the rock talked about? So I said he in a paper people can equip people question everything for whatever reason
sure as others all that's not a hundred pounds on cable appeared is go packet to our view,
way, so somebody did move like twenty yards and I did notice that, but other nad just gonna sit where relevant that one of its heavy enough, that's good, that nobody steal it. Burden of most people won't steal it. I should so resume dating a stool now when you too,
that rock up to the top of the mountain. How often you do this? I do about once a week one
week here. That's gonna wow. I mix it up and that's what my once a week type something different other than that Asia is run. The mountain
So once a week, once every seven days you carry their health
the current it's a mile and a half, she us,
ha ha
the hurts my lower back. Just think about me to death. Is there,
the danger of like doing that
some serious wait, you're carrying are you back like that's an awkward way to carry weight Viana do like once a week. I try to think I'm bullet proof, but I've found out that I'm not suffer
yeah. That's it yet ass a trail right there a while with the rough,
that's some serious work, like the amount of actual physical kinetic work that you have to do to go up a hill.
A hundred and thirty pounds rock on your back, like that, like man, dusk,
get you in some insane shape. It helps in our mean, assist every everything else makes it up. I do a lot of different things, but that's just
One of them now was is something that you would always done and then, when you got in a hunting you just sort of ramped it up or did you did you like really getting fitness wants? It became a hunter, that's another, surely having a wrap it up,
it is a really jihad is not doing, but no, I see so. I started by hunting. I was just a teenager and it was. I ended up killing us by.
Bull out my very first year. I think it was eighteen or nineteen and Thou was killed,
both about where I came from a real small town. I mean twenty, some kids, my graduate in class and so a lot of people hunted, but to kill a bull,
the bow was like special, and so I got
attention for that. As like this, some positive reinforcement. Unlike you know, it is after high school after the high school sports and all that,
trying to find my way to figure out what the heck I'm gonna do and so
I liked hunting. I liked the challenge of it. I got some pause. A reinforcement from us home, like hey, this is pretty cool, excited, didn't, hardly know anybody who killed a bowl with a bow back then, and so I
successful, but from there I just wanted more one or more of a challenge, and then you know I started going into the wilderness into the Oregon's biggest wilderness, Eagle CAP Wilderness, it's three hundred and seventy five thousand acres, and so you can get back in their way from people and I,
Well. Now I want to go to the middle this wilderness cause. I would be even more bad ass and fire. He kill ball back there, man that would be the
and so just gonna,
from there, I realise how the physical part of bow hunting were, where it was more important, and so I just is kind of a progression in I've always always ran ten Kazan different things like that, but
I figured that you can't be in too good of shape to to challenge that country, and so I'll, just you know I've. Never. I haven't reached my limit. I'm trying to try to become what I
says the ultimate predator, so that it becomes a part of like yours
Your whole psyche. It becomes part of like what you're doing with your life becomes that the child,
shove. It becomes almost
as important as what you do in itself. Like you not just going out
getting it out for meat.
I'm sure you enjoy Elk me now
It's also it's. It's is almost sort of like a spiritual quest earlier and that you know the most powerful moments I've had been in the mountains in the wilderness after killing a bull because everything that goes into it, you know it's not just the fact that I killed an animal
It's it's! How much I respect animal, how tough the country is by all the training. It's a simulation of all that work in all that investment of emotion and everything else, and so that's yet is it spiritual? I mean them by yourself. Back
there is a role as it gets. Tough and eating the animal that you you ve killed. Four, I just started hunting
no I've been hunting little over a year and a half, and for me,
the most delicious meals and more satisfying meals. I've ever had his venison than that. I've killed myself there's something.
Something intimate about it. I guess something much you're, much more attached to what you're, which are eating, and
I'm never killed, ailing with a bow, much less a twelve hundred pound bull elk with a bow in the middle of the woods mean that's gotta run.
But up another not to Maisie Kazoo shooting something with a rifle in Russia
that mule dear from two hundred yards away- that's pretty far. You know you're shooting these animals. Thirty forty yards away from you in here
huge here now there may they dont commit suicide there
their use, two lions there used to be an hundred so to get into bowl. Ranger
when the red Zone so to speak, and that thirty to forty yards that's difficult there dialed in their used to being hunted every single day in there.
Never turned off and so yeah
and then you have just basically sharp stick. You know one arrow, the arrows
over there and adjust it's amazing. How lethal with the razor sharp broad head an arrow can be, and now I've seen in others, videos of of both huge bulls. I've killed dropping in seconds just from that in a quicker. Even then, maybe a rifle wake
and that's all that's pretty amazing. That is pretty amazing. What one of the things about you is because of all your training, because, while this lifting and exercise you do you should
really heavy bow. You shouldn't ninety pound compound bow which for folks who don't know,
lotta people still little tell you
like you, don't need to shoot anything more than sixty by
Ninety I've never even heard of anybody shooting in ninety on everyone pulled one till I pulled the oars and mean that the ridiculously mean that's priest out.
Yeah so year
sort of like adding to like this,
reason why year your exercising and all this fitness
and getting you know, really strong and win in really great shape. Your Europe
you can have to be in great shaped just to use the very weapon that use take these animals out yeah. Well- and it is true- you don't you
necessarily have to shoot ninety pounds. Only people do kill. There's women out there.
Oh honey new are very successful. With fifty pound bow true, you can do it, but you know
I want to shoot ninety one
I want on an animal's I want to hold. I want that arrow blowing through so I have to but two holes spilling blood. That's how I'm going to recover the animal. You know an arrow kills from hemorrhage, so not from shock like a like a rifle would so to get that
ridge, whereas a fifty pound boma go and halfway and am I getting belongs in a might kill it, you know you might get twelve inches a penetrating. If I go clear through that, both
it's you know. Maybe twenty four inches across borders at twenty four inch wound, as opposed to twelve insurer wound in Oregon Killin by
M Ridge, and so it's this can be thou much more lethal in my mind and then a fund
to read or through shoulder or its cordon way hearts I have to go through, maybe thirty inches of of mass and to do that, it's not
it is not necessary, so to speak, but it's what I'm comfortable with, and I think it makes me that more lethal over
how many other dues or shoot ninety pounds? I'm not sure, is there anybody, I don't know, probably anshar by one or two sugar
I just pulled it back and I was thinking when I was part of backhoes and got matching Pwnis thing back. If you just climbed up the top of mountain you're, absolutely exhausted, and then you have this one opportunity to see if you ever had that happen, where you know you
really exhausted to work to get to where the Elk is and then years you're. So tired. You have a hard time on the ball. Now, no, that's cause! You train our right now. That's that's! Never been an issue but-
it's, because you prepare the average person in ninety
is it really difficult to lift. I mean essentially you're you,
two hands sort of, but a bulk of the work is gotta, be in your right arm. Yeah in its is difficult. You know where I think could be more difficult as if you sit in a tree, stand for hours, freezing and then a buck locks by
ninety pound bow. That would be hard. Now,
that would be cause. You're, not warmed up, you're, not active, so that could be difficult, but I I did used. I had that bow for a late season back home and it was
all those like seven degrees. I've been up there for hours, I'm dislike again this. It can be
test now. If I could, if I can put us back, and I was able to do so
but just because you train so hard yeah. No, I mean yes, if you, if you, if I didn't do it, I do every day there's no way
That's great. I mean how many other guys are doing their home here. The guys are in shape
and treating this almost like a sport, there's more in others,
there's more doing it now, especially guys out west, but I get
I get emails from Georgia from people it just you know, and what I found is it like. You talked about earlier. It kind of gives your life purpose. You know everybody has a job. People have families and everything else and, and they just kind of
that they need to find something that can define a more motivated and now of central
for hunting- is something here before there was nobody ever did it.
So now. Maybe that is what makes the difference in their life, and so you know at, and I still get people who they don't like it. Then they don't lie.
Feeling like they have to train to heart, and so I get criticised a lot for my approach. Also,
and what do they say? Oh, do you do and given shape really do
strong healthy as all
kind of criticisms come up with here, though it's it's pretty. I don't know if it's funny, it's it.
And irritation, but I just gonna blow off because it actually urging you yet little bit yelling its ever get to work on that aspect. Training, ok, but they'll, say stuff. Like oh Cameron, says you have to go to run a marathon to kill and elk which, as I have never said, that I do that, but you don't have to or
You have just I saw something other day. Oh you know my approach,
jeez what's wrong with hunting today,
well being healthy and strong side, not eating sugar, not drinking alcohol, eating, healthy food and working out yet
what's wrong with the world man. Basically, all these healthy fuckers are their ruin. In February of FAT, guys like to sit tree stands blow farts there there upset guy
figure out there doing something exciting? I guess I don't know so anyway. I do get I get criticized because you know hunting in in hunting
Some people is kind of a just to get away and there's nothing wrong with that in our union to vacation shore is not
Can you wanna gear your life around and that's? Ok, I get that you, don't you don't have to train,
day if all you're looking for, is just to get away in relax.
There's nothing wrong with that in any endeavour weather
it's a game or a sport or even martial arts, mean as other wrong with taken a Marshall our class once a week just for exercise you'd, like my friend
with this disease is big overweight. He takes jujitsu items are trying to guess Blackwell. He just wants to get get his blood
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One crab tries to get out the bucket. Neither crabs grab
the poem down.
That's! It always happens. Just that's the number one problem with the world's crabs in a bucket the number one problem this world is people instead of being inspired. They looked criticise people instead of looking at someone who works hard. Does something amazing and- and
their own life? They find fault or they find weakness or they they did. They find themselves not to add up, not measure up, and so they get upset instead of finding
that inspirational. So you know what I do have a belly. I do need to get to the jam. You know what I'd do drink too much. I gotta stop doing that. Instead of that
they just start shooting on this one thing that causes them to feel and secure, not even realizing that that one thing has the potential to empower them right now. Add enough now mean that could
what's goin on two hundred percent fat
Box two hundred percent. What's going on? It's a hundred percent man. I know it because I felt those feelings I felt: I've felt insecurity I felt jealousy. I felt
especially as a young man, for I figured out how
had it train my mind and how to embrace so
one, whose better than me and embrace someone who inspires me and look for it amongst.
My peers look forward, even amongst my enemies, I try to be inspired by people like you know. I tried like if I find someone that I think is like someone who's
add comedian. Who is a joke thief whose, but they work hard choices
take that aspect of them that works hard and only concentrate on that and in fine inspiration and because then-
become valuable to me now, then
I can see the negative aspects of their behaviour in that becomes available to me because I realized it reinforces what's bad but then the good,
specks of it, whatever it is,
fine just something in someone that you don't even like
fine like something that they do, that that can inspire you right and in Ireland.
I get mostly all positive and people inspire me. They say that I've helped her motivate them this and that
that inspires me also did it holds me accountable? You know what I mean is now have created this thing and it's what I love, but
It also holds may counter by Agatha. Keep I gotta keep it up for the people. Yet
mean gas, so that's I mean ninety
percent of what I did is positive, but it seems, like you, remember, the one per cent
you got a train yourself. Do not do that. That's that's mental training, mental training as well as physical training, both believe me, man. I've gone through it and
I do what I say is it's like snake bite venom like a snake by two. If a snake bites you for the first time I mean you're, fucked, you're, you're, sick,
the hospital young in any event you're in the trouble, but
he's gonna learn been venom little bit of venom everyday overtime, afterward
the snake biting I better get out of here sitting anymore about allowing you to develop
the ability to understand what it is and I feel sorry
people whether to see ridiculous,
I laughed like some
coming to my office, sometimes in my wife would laugh at my guy. Some guys make economies is where is
reading what they say about me makes me laugh if, if I really thought they were right, it would bother me right, but if I know if I
done what I need to do, and I done all the work- and I have myself and I'm objective, then
in fine folly, in their weakness right but you're in
operational dude for sure, because you inspired me, I saw some of your videos. I said I'd I'd,
guy who's, going for things like a guy
whose is not easy to run ultra marathon, sought easy to take a hundred thirty pounds rocket, put it in a pack who walk up to the top of the hill. When I see
we're doing stuff like that. I get like this.
Ramps up inside me and I want to go work out. I wanna go, do something I want to get shit, don't I think
like you- are really important, though, that the type of people that
things like that day. They provide energy
for countless other people with your wherever it or not- and I know that
did to me, so I know that I'm not unique in that. I know that other people watch videos feel the same way they get excited
it about it and
cause motion: you cause you cause effort because of what you ve done.
You get. People excited than inspiration actually causes thanks to take place near or think thinks. This is what I love to do it so and it just preparing for crunch time, basically get out there and preparing to to be the ultimate predator or not
they'll when all the protein eloquent fulfilment for tv show there's a lot of pressure. These hunt,
and be expensive,
having a long way away from your family, theirs
What at stake. There's a guy with you, who's being paid, there's a big investment, so I don't want to. I don't want to fail when it comes down to that moment, not only for me but for other people who sacrificed so that's that's based.
The works about- and I think it's cool too, that you feel that the people are inspired by these things,
and it actually like, motivates, you tend to ramp up another not to keep it going even further Ellie at night, I don't, I haven't, hit my ceiling. You know twenty better everyday.
Just such a bad ass, manly approach to life, you know elk hunting with a bow
being an expert at that its due em
regular job, which
job just be work right now. I really you get off at you, you gotta get bus another. They say I think I'm sick really
we're going to find out if this is.
Bad move that now
I'm a buyer, further local water power, company back home. So I've done that for eighteen years
so you do that forty hours a week, and so how do you find the time to do all this other stuff just make it happen? Wow, it's just what I do so yeah.
You know how goes I'm sure you ve been there before worth. If I don't get my
work out an if I don't do, I'm just in a bad mood. You know the main gives it, and so we just make time to make it happen and just what I
What is the other part about working out about the bad mood part is that your body sorted develops this this habit of
Papa beyond energy like when you get in shape, and you get your body that really fit, and you get your body used to exerting these these big explosive
bursts of energy like lifting or jujitsu what it whatever it is
body sort of like ramps up for that and then
hey, where's, my release, hey we're ready, go hey! We're right ago, wound Fuckin office man! What's goin on here, I'm going to kill someone, I'm looking at you
about somebody what's going on. Why can I, with waits, heard it's kind of crazy and the union?
have that release, and I think our bodies are
audibly, designed for a certain amount of that being that we were offered. Who knows how many thousands of years we're Hunter?
others and we essentially share the same dna. So human beings that lived thirty forty thousand years goes not much of a difference between us and them.
Gotta, be a lot of the old reward that, though, the reward
mechanisms of life like
still in our dna, and I think that people who
don't exercise those reward mechanism. You missing out on the dove a lot of what it is to be a person a lot of what it is to be like excited by life. It's some do something like pretty intense about
you just did fulfilling those reward mechanisms and I think
is one of those
I didn't realize and touched her hunting. I really didn't realize like what
intense connection, your bureau, like yours,
here's your my unless your spirit, but that said the fuckin, that's words been hijacked by somebody. Should heads weren't crystals are on her neck, but it seems like,
there's something in you that big like it opens
This weird path that, like all you didn't even know this- was their this. This predator path, this path of
connection to the animals a connection to the wild world, going
therein and getting an animal and eating in an iron even mean in like a macho look. Look how cool! I am way! I'm I really mean it in spiritual way. This is weird spiritual connection you have to
the mother earth when it provides for you to the animals
the wild itself when you go out and get one and then you you use it for sustenance, yeah now and that people who think it's just about getting me. Like, I heard I think you're talking with John
common he didn't, really understand, hunting it yeah. He did. They think it's it's like
and going to the storm buying a mistake. It could be further from the truth
the exact opposite of that really yeah you're you're, getting me
yeah you're eating it, but it's the it's a connection. It's the is everything else. That's that it's all about! That's where the power comes from, and man without that I don't know. I mean that's everything to me. That's that's! My life
you know just gearing up, for that is what I do. So, why do a lot of exciting things on bum, very fortunate person and whether it stand up calmly or whether its working for the? U S see the things that I
Do I truly love doing in there
exciting thing so mean when it, when the? U r C starts when the fire
to go and I never feel like. I should be anywhere else. I am always very excited to be there.
Huntings even more exciting in that year. The
next. It is accessible to everyone, whereas, like now
it gets to be the commentator for the USA, I'm lucky for me. I'm the only one or you know, there's a couple of guys it do it when I'm not doing it but they're, not as good. Thank you very much appreciated
I think a lot of really good, but this to me, but you known like that's, it is a job that may be five people on the planet get to do rise. First, do commentary for Emma three
you say, but hunting,
Everybody can do a lot of people can do it and you that's the thing that I really like about your approach. You go on.
Public land, you you'd, you do
the national forests, you do it in the areas where there are excessive.
To always folks, you didn t get it a tag. Just like everybody else. You get your license just like everybody else. In
are there and do you know I do
can't hunts. This is
This is this, is
really like the American WAR Ass, the entering into yeah. That's you know. I have the seller. I've had guides
go someplace where guys required Canada or different places, but were
basically Nay made a name for myself was in the wilderness by myself, Onslow Solo hot, and to tell the truth I was worried. I think I see I wrote an article is either ninety nine or two thousand. I want with my body, South Cox, he's from California here the due to change. Name now he's dead, please North Cox,
south step here. What the fuck you parents animator! It won't come South Cox, its ceiling
wherever a Courtney, yeah so
we went and we both killed good bowls and I killed a buck. Also- and I wrote this article-
in that the photos were awesome, the out just the whole extent,
again, I thought this is gonna screw up my hunting, because this is public, glances, Eagle, CAP Wilderness and
This is probably the last time this huntings ever going to be good, because people see this and they're going to want to do it, and now, where I didn't see any
buddy for years there should be tons of people one next year came round when back in there is nobody there and so in all ended up writing a book about
that type a hunting and still nobody was there and the bottom line is yes, it's avail.
What everybody but its very tough and
near twelve miles from the nearest road and you're living off. Your back in some of the most unforgiving country there is dash, is never easy and so people try it in I've. Taken I've taken friends back there. Who
HU. I wanted to love it as much as I do, and you know we're back therefore, day two days and there like dude, I'm ready to go
that's
How can this is this? Is this is as good as it gets there? Like? Mrs
isn't what I expected at my feet, her yeah now it so
thing about. It is just because
love it not. Everybody is gonna lie it, and this is something that you can't make em
and so they see the photos. I see the video they see the animals are like man. That is
awesome. I want to do that to unless it's in you
It's too soon be a struggle, and so it it is available. But it's still tough thing,
Can someone who's a rap fan to your favorite
true concert and they like cheeses, what's wrong with you
any luck. Yeah now it's now it's got to gotta, be it's gotta be yeah, it's not forever
Well, that's the beautiful thing about life. There's!
choices, so much variety than so many different things could be into the
One of the real problems of life is people want you to be into what they're into right.
If you're not into what they're into their some wrong with you.
They're, not into what you're into there's some wrong with you right that, but the thing about it
it is, I dont need anybody'd be into it, so I will just like so my buddy
really who I started: hunting the wilderness where he moved to Alaska and he's just a stud thou it he was my partner. We we both like had the same mindset that there's no sacrificed to great. We can be enough.
It doesn't even matter and he moves so I'm like okay. I need to find that I tried to find somebody to take, and eventually I figured out there's nobody like flavor.
So on this either going to quit hunting there.
Go on my own, and so I just was like it's. You know it's on my own, and so it is done worse
it doing the solar wilderness HANS and is like a citizen.
Thing about. You don't need anybody else. People dont like doing it because you're so far,
You comfort zone were so distracted with
things going on in the regular world that be
the wilderness, where there's nothing is overwhelming for a lot of people. It's just I mean it's is dead
mentally yeah, just being alone in the wilderness is gonna, be like a very
rare experience like people freak the fuck out when there alone in the wilderness, that's a scary,
for them because they worry about getting
trapped. They worry about getting injured, not being able to get out. No one's gonna meet with a fine like if you don't
a satellite phone and a back up satellite phone and ham gun, jesting, theirs
lot of fear involved in being in the actual wild itself yeah in there they were
reboot stuff, they make up stuff to worry about me. Just it
to give away out, and so that was announced,
That is true. For me, too, I mean it was
overwhelmed from me? I didn't go back in there in the mountains,
four hundred and ten de Solo hunter right out the gate I went for like one night like I went on a scouting trip and then stayed one night then came out and it's just kind of baby steps into it, because it's
now, if you, if you pulled in how many people are here and allay, but how many people have stayed out,
overnight and the mountains by themself. Stuck me very many people. I mean it's. I don't know
Maybe I mean it's it's just not something people do in this day and age, and so is because it's you know it's your outer comfort zone, but if you can do that and
That's why I became good that naturally the night I I I loved it now remember
let's see, was me, think what I do know what whatever
nobody here, but I killed a six by six boiled by myself and it was my best ball.
And I got out of the wilderness- has auditory four wheel drive ahead this this bull loaded?
and I was just so part finally got self service out on the highway
driving home. I called
wife, and I like, as I can trace, I kill six by six bull and she's like princess died. Unlike what
she's a pressing died. I go who
children, six by six bull. It is like you're, so
to everybody else. Princess Diana dine was like the worlds
stop. But when you
in the wilderness and you killed a sick
Sick, nothing else matters and that's, I just remembered thus the difference between
living back their words just about am I gonna, find a push
sleep tonight. Maybe
warm and we'll have food that it that's all
care about what were inundated by information. These days, we have like constant information coming at us from all around the world. The seven billion people in the end
Our planet provide stories so
made time anything.
Happens, that's interesting extraordinary or scary, or disgusting, you're gonna.
About it and if you just sit in front of your computer, like I do some days like Sundays man I get on twitter and I
can't stop click and I'm just like what that's not real. Oh my God in Israel, poorly shit now retweet it and then you know like you.
You could lose your day your day. It doesn't exist. What you're doing is just in you're just collecting
this information from around the world,
it's not your life. Your life
is just
Cameron. Aids left foot right, foot left foot right foot.
What do I see through my eyes? Were you know who's around me who wear my love ones, that that's your real life? That's it
you know a sinner wonder about whether I would if, when you shot the arrow right as an area that both princess died down before feathery Craig
Many somehow some way I killed her, maybe that some work
the stranger things have happened
you believe in those things, if you believe in the synchrony cities of the world, that would be crazy, tat would be Thou
cut quite poetic
if you're wisely princess died,
guy know their rights.
The lungs double long. She was in the form of an actual mutual elk right. She she beat
golden, then I shot one right, your lungs. She was hot, but not not as hot as that. Look at that moment, I don't know
maybe if that was like it, I get by nine bullock. It could happen
I think it was a say she was hot, I think is
His royal
she's not really harsh has royal hardness. You think so I think so now my type
sounds just died. I don't think so. You get there. I thought
three issues party and when she she died in Nicaragua,
well. She was running away from the press right. Wasn't it like a proper policy situation and I party and yeah she had a boyfriend right
It was that was up. She was breaking up of Prince Charles and choose her
it was in turmoil that makes her my type. I'm not
gacek, cheesy
It doesn't seem like she get down, but that's just me. I mean all due respect. Rest in peace, MRS die, yeah, that's a thing thou! My people do really get caught up.
Like my wife, try to tell me some stupid celebrity shit the other day and she is gone on bout. Some things
You believe this said that now my work I lit
they don't give zero. I give zero fox. Let us stop talking about. This is so much shit to talk about, but
those salacious in Gaza.
He things they get
people so interest eggs have become so
fascinated become overwhelming I'm guilty of the two men somebody put some threat or my message board the other day about this problem.
Bullshit, but it might be sure of that
Clinton, had an affair with Elizabeth Hurling, see that when I thought about that shit all day,
I thought about it all day are kept going back to the thread. Seen what were recent, what new developments further,
two things out of that. First,
Tom Sizemore can't keep a flag in secret whenever you do do
tell Sizemore who you're, Bang and Cosette mother Fucker spills the beans
twas heroin attics with the truth,
one thing: I ll write that down yeah trust me and
The thing is, I think, that Bill Clinton,
is the last of the great american Presidential, Dick slingers. Does it play
was it ends with em? There's no. Did you can't do that anymore? We are going to be reduced to a sea. Not that does anything good about
that guy, because obviously he was kind of a creeper, I mean he
bill. Clinton was one of those weird guys that would just like whip it out on girls like if you talk to I didn't talk to, but if you read some of the accounts of some of those women that we're like really angry him from Arkansas, he would get along
with a whip it out. There's him the hurly fresh or hit that right God damn
wow, but that's it
the we're not gonna how many more those those guys now- and you are you talking about different- they here's how it affects me. So people talk about what a bomb and this this or that I might
Do I have to go to work tomorrow? Cuz? If, if I go to work tomorrow, not much has changed in my life. If I don't have to go to work for some reason, then I'll start paying attention, that's how
Well, that's a good way to look at your own life.
A good way to manage your own life. The problem, of course, is that this is supposed to be some sort of a community.
Our country is supposed to be some big giant community and the people that are running this community that are in charge.
Dictating the rules and regulations are cool
early screwing up. Clearly this
not the optimum way to run any country. I don't know
it's possible to optimally run a country with the mess
It's been created before the people there
in the power in power.
For before they got in the positions of of of having any control theirs.
Doubly so much better
och or sea and crazy shit behind the scenes. As far as like special interest groups and law
behest, and so
The massive web is probably so deep. You could never have through it all clean it all up and
come up with some sort of a rational system. So you,
two options: one
could obsess on it and work Feverish Lee until your fucking heart stopped, beating and then you'd die and angry person. This system socks bomb and put your heart blows and new chasin. You fall down shit, your pants and
and die in agony or
it is to live your life, saying, ok
only then should the somebody else. Let them run it and I'm gonna go wandering through the woods with pointy sticks. I, like your approach, better dwell,
I think whoever it around the country they you're a much
better job if they were both hunters. If they had been in the
hounds and actually tried to survive, and then maybe
killed an animal one and that was took back to their family. I think they'd probably be a better commander in chief
think. That's probably true. I think if they were a Marshall artists, they probably a better commander in chief,
a huge fan of Putin. I think Putin is kind of a psycho, but I respect the fact that here
black belt and judo- and he is you know, he's a real Marshall. Orison serve, carries himself in that way now
Burma in Putin we're gonna, throw down Putin with FUCK Obama that bothers me that that disturbs me, you know
I wish my president can kick, alas, ethics,
the most important thing in the world but oppose he plays basketball, wish every video clip I've seen him play bass. While he looks at me sucks at that takes a supposedly
is poor African, given the six out on the brakes time once again
Let's do it stood Obama come on the spot.
Gum I think, than any any like very, very
called thing than anybody. Does whether its bow hunting or martial arts hurry anything words?
incredibly difficult to accomplish something it sort of
operates, that the people that will quit from
people that figure out a way to succeed, and that's really that that overcoming adversity is that's where character.
Round and that some of the things that we all admire
Dutch, it's hard wired into US man. These admiration of that, like just
simple is me watching your video you carrying that rock up a hill mean. Is it
weren't, you carry that rock behind the greatest scheme of the universe. No, it's not bad
to me, it was because to me that dares like this motherfuckers doing some shit that are probably can't do right now and when you see that like makes it like, I want to be able to carry their rock up the hill, or I will forward a fuckin start out with a thirty five.
I'm plate and carry that up. The hill work, my web, that big rock in that. No doubt in
barring each other and the the ability to push your
self to these incredible height is really one more exciting aspects of being a person. One
things it makes being a man or woman. I mean, I guess, being a woman, I'm not a woman's, I don't know I thought about. Sometimes would it be like, but
sit. It makes it gives you a thrill
it gives you excite
It gives you like these these feelings of accomplishment. When you achieve things there,
there's some of those the greatest moments in life and I
bad for people that have never stuck there neck out. I feel bad for people
never taken chances, not because
less, because they're not less there. Just
they have a reach their potential. It's not that there
potential is less. I've feel
probably inside all of us, we all have the potential
for greatness in one way or another is long as we're obvious physical
problems. We we didn't get dealt a terrible genetic hand of cards.
With a disease or something like that. But if you don't
that, I think all of us have potential. We just did we. I feel bad for people who don't at least
help to reach a potential in some way there and that's for me. I don't. I didn't feel I don't fuck em
different from anybody else in because I've been back
early twenties. Our I sign up for ten k, race, six point two miles back home in quit. I mean I always had been party in. I was, I don't know what nineteen or twenty, and
whatever not in shape and unlike. Why am I doing this and stepped off the course and that I've never forget I'll, never forget with that moment fell like being a quicker and that that was. That is crazy, but the point is is
So if I've been that guy who quit a six mile race and I've come
now you know have done. You know what I do, what I can do or what I finally Billy figured out. I could do anybody. Can
You know what I mean: I'm not like crazy
winter, or have all this ability that just is natural vicious, but
it's what I'm? What I'm doing and when I chase what I work for every day and I've been able to achieve what some might consider you, no big accomplishments and I'm just
I got you a regular guy, but your regular guy, who puts it out there and when
put it out there? That's would create
that energy! That's? Who creates that inspiration? That's it creates action because
people will watch your video go man, I'm gonna fuckin jam and they'll go.
The gym they'll start lifting Wade's or They'Ll- do whatever it is that they do that they now get inside
by your hard work. The wants a video of you get up early in the morning and go and running when you dont want to frighten. They see tired everyone,
feels that everybody seen that alarm clock go off her that alarm clock love like I do not want to get up now that everybody knows that feeling, but its own.
We're coming that feeling its developing, that muscle of discipline where you look at that alarm yet hid it, and you just just get out of here now,
I had an ex girlfriend back when I was finding who she is, she
you used to get angry at the way I get up, because
You know she had to work and I was a comedian lino bunch different like small time jobs, but when I would get up get up angry
because I had sort of this thing,
would do in the morning light former morning work out some training. I would
the alarm. Clock goes up and I would get up like my
life depended on it, so the alarm go off, I'd hid it and I just fucking jump out of bed like the house is on fire because, like that's the way to do it because anything else is weak, like I had a very real problem when I was young like I didn't, want it
crazy when I was complete
competing martial arts. In times, like fifteen till I
twenty two, that's all I did and I
I was so crazy than I thought it was weak.
What sex, though
wanting sex with my girlfriend was like a weakness in the pleasure was a weakness.
Wanting to taste good food was a weakness in the serbian supervisory. I was fuckin crazy. Us completely crazy, but I would add alarm. Clock would get up that long, cargo,
I would get up angry
angry and urgent, and that's how I wake up just wake up instantly, we're gonna, go and I'll get my shoes on and do my run or whatever I did that day in the morning and in our she would go. You fuckin stop doing that. Fucking drive me crazy. You get up, I think the house is on fire, something she she's over act.
I read that bitch got a better one.
It wasn't. She was over agony. I was fucking crazy. I wouldn't want to hang out with me when I was nineteen o the fucking maniac, but you know that that's probably better
and hidden that fuckin snooze button ten times in a row here. You know that developing
discipline, though the muscle of discipline. I I I get that
through inspiration. I get that through knowing that they like watching a video of you, seen an alarm clock or knowing that you're tired getting up and working,
do you are Instagram the picture from Vegas when you were at the shot, show you look and totally exhausted near lifting waits. Like our gaze, doing it? That's what you gotta! Do you not you don't want to live weight good, go live, waits, you're, tired. It always. I was an excuse
yeah, there's always an excuse, but when you get through it, you realize like it's like
there's a lot of times not about doing what you wanna do. Life is about doing what you see, what you're supposed to do or what you should do and then
knowing that when you want to do it it'll be even easier than now. I'm desperate,
my my routine and in people always asshole. So what do you do?
what year now routine virginity or its? Unlike its real simple,
they got on my shirt river and shoot. I lived run shoe every day. Well, what about okay so every day
every day. You don't take Sunday, laugh nuthin every year
they are too weak for anything everyday wow.
That's inviting me working days are every day to the bottom. I take days off son. I like days off
and people to people tat I would like to.
Off too, but I can't do it
can't do it mentally now. Can you really that's interesting, but it and people of this one guy.
Where he posted on my own. Our was Facebook, I think he's like him
yeah. You know I've been following you for a long time, but ever
then you do not just too much like too much what too much for whom
much for you or too much for everybody and said I was.
My whole thing is now I wanted. I want to be the guy who does too much, because how do you do too much right right right too much for I mean who
terms. Is there a council that says ok spin,
term and you're doing too much. So
I know you mean yeah well, we, but we use
the thing is too much is now the norm right. In our mean, if you stop
look like as far as like exercise, like think about like what people
used to do for exercise now what people do now? No one trains harder than Mme fighters right, an enemy fighters, the email you
with a guy like say you know what your saint Pierre John Jones,
training twice a day
police at least twice a day and they'll take off recovery days
or the Grannie couture, please to take very
you off days. He would do it
We call active recovery, so
instead of Russell Lift waits. Maybe you go mountain biking, you know. Maybe
He would do something like you know something like
where is moving he's getting?
exercise in it, but he would do like what we call an active.
Every day, maybe go hiking. You now
still work, but your fortune.
Body to understand your body. This is what you do this
Nobody does, and am I I mean for those guys
especially in, might be for one minute. They're fine might be over in a minute.
Yeah could bear their doing all in all. I gotta watch your
The other night now know how
he works and
first round number yup that very that was it
unfortunate ending to an animal
unfortunate for your eye in the latter ways, firstly, ones that camp right.
After the Mcdonald Fight and he had an injured knee and in it
your hamstring entry into the brow fight, and so he had pulled muslins hamstring, a partial tear in his knee was fucked up, so we couldn't wrestle so not the most.
Optimum conditions to be fighting not just for world title, but against
easily one of the four bad as motherfuckers to walk to face a planet that Edinburgh is key is a beast yeah that kid is so good and he
you're right with one leg: tick early in the fight and see your eyes. Let's give out, you see that, like that limp
it is our limp that a guy gets when you know that she's really slammed into the meat and the muscle is this like stutter step that they give us like a boy there long long night for your eye, and then he got tagged
tat even worse that, unfortunately, he got Steve Reality Nasty Renault
I'm doing a fuckin podcast with Cameroon, Haines or create back dude call me
you wanna get it he's gonna get on their yeah. Probably like listen disguise for ship. You need a sixty pound bow. That's! It scares a maniac. Stop all your left in the studio, goddamned billygoat. We went pig hunting two weeks ago and
You know just followed him up. The hills. Jeez doesn't get tired, he's he's he's. There has no muslim ass. This
thin guy, but he can go for days for days. Just doesn't get tired,
I was shocked when we were in Montana, because I'm impressed
good shape, but I was found him up these hills and relax enabling nuthin.
An animal breeding having that that's what
really got me on to this idea of exercise and hunting being together and that hunting is a difficult thing
that you turn the sir there look at the horns on that thing. On my gathers, antlers are giant doing
and user is. Are we doing now noticed picking it up here? That's a good way to do it right now is,
is there any exercise that you do specifically to deal with the fact that you ve got so much weight on your back, because when you
backing out right hand about the raw,
But I mean what I'm saying is to compensate for that. We not just doing now
carrying the rock, but is there any other liked you do like, like those roman chair exercises are something to strengthen your lower back.
Because it seems like, like your core and a lot of the lot of the areas of your back. A really tax, your spine, carrying a lot of weight
a new pact like TAT. Well, I mean I'm workin core all that all the time from planks turn
el. The lives that I do too shooting a bow is, can be caught
I mean your whole when trying to hold steady, you your engaging your core, so he I do in in running the mountain
So, whether I have the rock or not I'm running
mountain when you're on an uneven trail and you're joking around and Stepan in holes, you know you're engaging your core know and then, of course we do. You know different re, your lives, dead lifts and whatever else
I do not turn makes it yeah. I wouldn't. I would imagine that there's a lot of crazy muscle groups involved and not just carrying that that rock out but
just in shooting the bow
balance out your body because you're pulling so hard on your right side. Do you ever pull your bow just with your left side next to to balance it out now? I just, I think, the lifting helps that you know I mean his lifting this pretty much you're engaging both sides equally, so the bow of the boat,
where it is, I probably I probably em a little unbalanced, but you wouldn't build tell, but just from twenty seven years of doing it or whatever
Ben yeah, my friend Steve Maxwell's, pretty famous strictly auditioning
spurt. He were, who works with a lot of people that have imbalances like tickers in the inner fell right and he gets them. The kick the opposite side, and one thing that they found is that when you use your weaker side, like save, you have a strong sign, namely the found this with judges who as well it actually
enhances your ability in your strong side, so
If you are, I find that plane pool to shoot, pool lefthanded, sometimes like of em.
My daughter from plants on the stocks are sure to left hand, and sometimes when Lefthanded comes up like there's a shot that I can't reach right, handed I'll shoot it left handed and if our practice lefthanded, then my right hand becomes better because I'm concentrating have to concentrate so hard he's my left tax, it's all like the
it doesnt know how to move right, see not thinking right and my right hand just falls right in a place where they say that it using your weak side, actually enhances you're strong side using you're you're, less dominance. I'd like achievable, I mean, I know you could
don't say you couldn't you could never sat I'll bet everything I own that you can shoot a beau left only differences between that. As you know, you have your dominant. I yes right so, does she left him? I'd have to use what isn't my dollar? I have used my left eye to aim
yeah. I don't think that's your problem. You notice are doing recently at the range of start shooting lefthanded, because those shootin someway rounds with my right that I was fuckin at my right, shoulder all really the three hundred when mag earlier, I was swam in that thing. You know my shoulder some times. Those like me, just fuckin, shoot a bunch of
lefty asked why right on his bad, because Lizzie,
the shocking impacts get a muzzle breaking noisy.
Deftly noisy, but I got these cool earphones that you listen to their there. They dig
cancel the sound out except talking
I, like a sound of gunshots, gets muffled radically perfect, but I can hear you loud and clear if you're talkin to me like at eight. Actually, I can hear you louder than I could with my aunt
so enhances the sound you're, my friend just and is a gun not told me about em, they're, they're, incredible, just a Martindale. Now this different tat tat decade
a different kind of gun that just call it just Martin deals a different kind of gun that he is a gun science, but
found that, like shooting lefty like practicing left
ended. It made me like so happy that I could go back to right handed care, so much better out. You know.
Did a few. Well, you so good at shootin bone marrow anyway, but if you did start shoot left
I bet it would make your right hand better. There may be of use-
again height, to make your left hand about. I think they do. Let's do it
stop calling me do. I just want
Thank you and Hoyt for brain me. This awesome bow point which is one of the
asked by manufacturers on earth broad this quite carbon
spider turbo for me and it
amazing, we shot a couple show we actually have a little bit of a archery set up back here in the back of the
studios, we shot a couple of targets with it, but this both is sick yeah. I have one decide
It's amazing man is really really awesome feels great about. I brought the factor
The yours is ninety parents, my the one
brought me a seventy pounds so makes me feel like a little girl, laughter, wrap it up here.
Thanks incredible. I was amazing how hard that is to pull back to, as really hard mean is like
I would really is like doing a ninety Lb Rowe. You know it's a lot of its technique. You know you want to push at the web for with the right, but that's got a lot of power. That's them
I built that or had them build that for me to hunt those are water, Buffalo and Australia, and then a mini use it in Africa. Kate bustle
yeah Jamie had that video Jamie put a video up, so you could see that water Buffalo
it's a long stock along patients stock and his muffler
I would imagine you would want to get a bunch of trees between you and him just in case she got Harry and he had a duck behind while those treaties the thing about this, so these animals here is they catch. They catch movement, so
if they're not looking while you're moving they don't, they can't pick that up said: thou go slow.
And then, if he looks, of course, I stop so it just about it's like right here.
So I stopped because his heads up, and so he can
the out his I am not move or put his head down and what they night did. I
figured out on these things as they might put their head downward.
Ten like their eating, but really there looking so gotta be to tell
I was head down, but he's not ripping grass. I decide he's not eating he's just testing me, so he might have maybe picks up
not, but he put his head down, but his mouth was movements or to stop. Unlike ok, you're trend, it you're trying to catch me here, but
As long as they not see a move, you can. You can walk right up right there and I get to forties. I'm not sure what we're film inherent
but we get to forty six yards and the crazy
about this is is alive,
let his his leg form for
second slip that arrow in, as
legs forward open up his vitals and I
It is too long and you can watch us arrow and clip,
a tree and between me and it in
the arrow hit a little lower than what I wanted because it hit that tree, but because I have
ninety pounds so much force it was it ricocheted caught a little
bit of energy from that tree was less
and but it still win in harsh out on that Buffalo elitism Shootin asked
watch watch that treated the curved one, someone's laid your forward.
And I ll see barely a terribly barely caught that. But if I would have
less poundage that could have so right there, that's a heart
shot on him and he has no idea what happened so he's taken off in their vitals. That looks like a bit.
Hotshot like if you were hunting out. That would be too forward into
but on those that's where that that's worthy out the hardest,
so you have to know their rights. Organs gets a little bit different on those animals than what were here, North America.
Is he he's gonna run into a tree here, he's pretty wobbly.
So I know how many seconds it was, but you're too
and pound animal with
just a razor sharp stick,
down in you know a minute.
Maybe men and a half. That's that's a lot quicker than the
we're gonna die in the natural habitat on their own. Will no doubt and that's one
the people need to understand when you talking about animals in hunting animals in you know, people that are opposed to it,
they need to understand. First of all that in order to do
proper conservation to take care of these animals to make sure that their herds, the population is strong. You have to call some of the animals you have to
other wasn't gonna die of starvation. Digging a you know: they're gonna get diseased
there's, there's a lot of issues involved if you're, not
introducing predators and then, if you introduce predators to take care of the population, will then you got a whole nother problem. Obviously, and
There are actually seeing that right now in parts of the country with with wolves when they re
Produce walls mean they're, they're, really ramping up wolf hunting now, and I too is a wolves or just turn up Elk yeah and this
decimating population in like enough
throw you there, there's no predators, so those buffalo there there's too
yeah right now, there's no limit on Buffalo really needed,
you need a licence. There's one killed because they're they're, not native,
Those are Asian water Buffalo, so they were brought over Australia, though not native, and so there
many of them were there once was water and nurse fish and all sorts of thanks. Now, just basically I'm a my whole because as Buffalo get in there and you know
They piss in there they do live in their killed everything, so they tear up the habitat
air at the want their ruin? The water source answer now, there's one
killed. So when I was over there, I killed three of those big ol fangs and you could kill twenty of them if you want, but they need him, God
wow, that's the same thing when New Zealand as well right, New Zealand has an issue, would not native species yeah yeah yeah? That's it
You there's only if I don't know, there's tons of non native species in Australia. I think I see the guy is worth Adam Greenery. He killed it's, not a dingo, but it's
sort of like a dingo, but it's not a pure bred causes are protected, but a kangaroo,
yoked is saved. The Cairo is found a common Haines programme. Hiram. That's
nominal tango. There came a room and ass. He you dont, need to be that Jack to be Kangaroo, see he's he's wasting their time. He's going crazy, no, but
we ourselves is. It was good get over there and seeing different animals and learning from the Atom Green train Owens drawn our of their lives
and you know and get a new country just what I love
do you, and even though the non native species thing so fascinating thing to me, because that's what we're dealing with in North America, with the wild hogs that have been introduced in other, were introduced with the Europeans and their run, rampant all throughout meat,
I warn you, we were in to hone ranch where I went hunting with Ramallah and they
fifty thousand hawks and this one ranch means that fucking everywhere it's insane see these herds of em. They tear that
in a written around turn up the ground, yeah
breed all year round the energy constantly making babies, and so there's
their certain ranches in California. In southern California, there there begging people to come on their ranch and kill hogs
Texas, famously they there
shootin about helicopters. Year mean they
actually have companies that take people on
a cobbler hog, HANS and that's what they're all about they just fly around. They find the hawks and shoot amount of scotch and part of it.
Novelty. In that you know, you're the hunt from a helicopter part of it is a necessity laelia. He can't get to these. Damn thing is to reduce the number somehow yeah.
The non native species thing is very fascinating to me and you not just the
the understanding of of population control.
Is one of the things that have really become fascinated by would by getting in the hunting understanding what the efficient wildlife what they have to go through in order to
to figure out like what how many times
to give out right what
but the numbers are that they need to work where they need to lead animals recuperate where they need to go in and take some of em and reduce them
fascinating thing in one of the most
efficient programmes in our country as far as
you wanna talk about like government programmes. Will fishermen
I have government programme, but damn its effective, effective
efficient, because its run by actual hunters and fishermen are not doors. Man now and in the thing about you know, huntin people still,
you're, not a hunter. It's hard to understand, or some people still do not understand why, in this day and age, need a hot will, elect
I work with the Rocky Mountains Foundation, there's a number one,
observation group out there and they ve, they ve helped protect habitat
over six million acres now of habitat for Elk, so that's from hunters hunters dollars, you know its conservation groups, so hunters,
the money we pay for tag and licence and in everything else,
to use to be an end
their hunting with the weapon. That's what goes into
in these animals, you know
numbers now have never been higher, does our hunting them, but were also paying in can't contributing to the health and habitat and in four elk another
life. That's that's what people don't understand without putting the value
on those animals. Then DAS were I dunno, thus
That's wherever they go sideways, but because we value them were willing.
The pay money and help, and we got outfits like the Rocky Mountains Foundation that just do amazing,
work for us you. I know why, where their mindset, I know, I understand where they're coming from the people that are anti hunting, it's dig they're coming from car,
This mean they don't want you to kill these
cute animals. They don't want you they leave. They feel like it's a cruelty thing that its
an evil thing to go out to nature and find these beautiful things and shoot them kill them. I understand the mindset, but it like
many things in life is not nearly as cotton dry, as everybody wants to to paint it is everybody wants to depict it. It's a far more complex and
the issue- and they have-
our time, believing that someone could have a deep love for animals while still hunting them right now. It's at I don't know, I don't think anybody could respect a boil more than I do. You know maybe the same, but is I think, about our cunning every single day and those balls
our man once I don't know, I dreamed about killing a six by six bull elk or at first
I didn't know if I had what it took. I dislike it, my good enough, or am I tough enough, or
can I even do this? I mean? Maybe I can't move on, I am capable of it because I I can kill some animals like it killed a spike boy kills and smaller bulls, but six by six bore mature heard both what every hundreds
comes in for folks, you don't know what you're saying six by six means: six hawks and Anna razors six point
on each side, this is an enormous animal.
Folks, in our stand, you're talking about the antlers antlers there are bigger than my arms then longer and and thicker, even than my arms case, I, like you,
a six by six bull this year in Colorado, aren't two thousand thirteen and it was
ten years old. So to do that he's been through,
in hunting seasons. He's your endured ten winters, it I mean tough, tough animal
and so for a long time I didn't know. If I had, I had what it took, and that was that when I finally did do it
when princess died, like I said
that was when I, when I called it, I think about, as I finally proved to myself. I could do it and that's a best power
that was the first time that you never done. There's one right. There
that's more than six by six? That's that's it! That's a monster overseas and extra time in their butter,
pull up a video of Elks Bugle Ing and only played when
before just so people can hear it because there's one on Maya on my you too, from Colorado this year in the bulls coming up the hill bill.
One in this, so loud
Ok, for what is that? What what's didn't know the name of the video should be something Colorado CAM in Colorado or something like that, while Jamie
but the that animal itself that the Elk is almost like a mystical animal day because it
you ve heard one I've heard one call before we were in Mount Rainier. We actually weren't even hunting, we're looking for big foot.
I was there with my friend Duncan he didn't find dude. We found them I'd just like to keep sites, I'm not like Tom Sizemore, our lobby,
now we may was
it was for the site. I show that it did called Joe Rogan questions everything and I can hear it yet. If you go to like, like eight or nine eighty nine minutes, can we can we hear the out the sort took a selfie of a bull come in now passer? Maybe I am Ratner yeah yeah Turkey,
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as long as we do that or just put
and back your neck.
So you have this scope in your hand. That's a spotting scope that shows you the distances. A distance range finder range find says he sees about eighteen yard
here, but he's gonna get the wind. So happy
to do that with my mouth and trying to stop and before smells so we spooked right here and it goes to about twenty five right here-
my son tanners filming right. There is a perfect shot.
And you ll see here's Aisy how lethal about it
bleeding on side, yeah Heroin, clear through
he probably didn't, know what the Fuk happened. Now he's he's looking for a bull he hears that other bull has begun. He just got in a fight with a bowl now he's like he doesn't feel so good. Why so? That's it.
That's doesnt animal seven times bigger than you here and now she's with
a sharp stick. Basically,
So that's what you dream of is about every bowhunter dreams of that and how many of those have you ever killed? Oh, I don't know, probably thirty. Why do you must have the most ridiculous freezer at home
yeah now, freezers, full! That's where it? What kind of a freezer do you have to have like? One of them? Walk in freezers have to do is to freezers too big giant, freezers and the garage as full bear in L A
everything else you probably never have to others? Who marker for me now is still lacking
beef steak neurons, while you I've, I buyer, I buy my arm be from
Adam the road she sat. He he has a ranch in Kansas and adjust. You know that
If raised no steroids or now it is free range, and that's where I buy meat from he's he's another Hungary sauna show, but commanders push them.
Russian nationals and is it or grass FED yeah yeah, I'm in
as good as it gets the fund
hunted on in Wisconsin this year, as my friend Doug Doug, Durham and now
access cows in his farms. Well, on racism, grass FED gave us some of the beef delicious
but don't realize man will your feet and cows these these die etc. Are
actual them. Given him corn, they all are fat and shit.
It goes a restaurant either they try to get me so that we do beef markets. Our finest beef might get that sloppy fat stupid animal away from me.
Duncan Animal here now, that's what is it
They get drunk of beer that their feed them beer and fattening them up and when
you're, not supposed to have all that fat like in that marveling.
Grass FED Stake in yes, it's you know, please very lean its darker. It's a deeper red, it's more like a game. Animal yeah
Lena's Elk and now about, like you said eating. Is that Steve call me now texting should only Steve
how dare he but I've been in Colorado on a high country there and that's about eleven thousand feet. That's up in the mountains and I killed a bowl. I don't think it was three years ago and we cut out the backstreet
The fire and cooked it I'd- I should put it on one of my arrows is my heroes, are aluminum and cook the backdrop,
secure on an arrow over a fire, and I don't care where I've eaten or the food of eating is, would never be better.
Then that right there in the mountains cure or eating animal. I just killed, is amazing here
We did that in Montana we had the liver and now we liver and heart that we had killed two hours ago and we we cooked it up at the camp fire we're all just as in cried so good yeah and that their taste it so vibrant
to the taste of alcohol, extremely delicious animal. Its
got a really unique flavour to almost sweet right.
And it's just you know as well as cut that backdrop on a rock
hands just a knife that I'd get
issues just like. So what whatever
How you know how you describe it, but it's just. I don't just
like that's, that's how it's meant.
Be a almost how it feels, like
meant to live out just out their living.
In the mountains, and just
Therefore, even not killing and animal there's something to me about the mountains. That's insanely appealing! I just
I love being in the mountains, gives you this weird I've its
like very happy, but I believe
that, when you are in these areas like when you were in a mountain and this all these trees and is a river stream whatever I feel like there's any
gee, coming out of those trees and his energy and that hill, and that these these,
lifeforms these let these plants?
that grow there in the wild and they these vibrant things that have existed without any human assistance whatsoever and will be here probably long after we're gone. There's there
something to them where when
in that environment you feel it? You might not even know you feel it, but
like. You don't know when you breathe and smog ere, you just breed in small gear, and then you get to a mountain. You get that mountain areas like while is different.
Around those those plants. I feel I mean-
their communicating with you, but I feel like they give off a vibe. Now it was an artery smoked, much policy aid, a bunch,
knows even stone cold seldom there, but that the power would definitely enhance now. I believe that, to you know, I've I've been theirs is placed
to go in camp. I myself and your cap and are just like on this,
shelf looking over this
huge canyon and am saw
sleep in there one night and
stars are out and just before, dark eyed glass.
Three yards away. A bunch of bighorn, rams and emotion.
Our just like the holy GRAIL of hunting right, and so I was
Johnny Sheep, just like it just so
our knowledge, so amazing that moment so I went to bed, I'm busy sack there
and I woke up in the morning the sheep were still there, except there was one less and I like one or the other
other ram went well
I went over there and and found a lion had killed
ram the night before, and so I found his leg on my own.
Here's wonders why he wasn't with them, but is decided
those rams their feeding, one guy,
killed by a lion there. Still there feeding nothing had changed mean the wind was still blown the they were still feedin.
One was gone and it to me as a sick man. He I could die back here. Nothing, nothing changes, I mean
you're. Just you really figure out how you fit in nobody. Nothing cares back there
it just like that's just the goes: there's life and death and
nothing in the wilderness changes and not just to me that was powerful. You know you feel it early feel how you fit in
Man is humility. You don't have much of an impact. Really you no need to fill up to that Kenya West, not tat their mother,
fucker bo honey. Their girl take em both hunting and lies in its old ten years. Here's some mountain go get taken out. I think a lot of people could dinner
including Conny. Almost everybody could benefit, but have you ever had? The encounters with landmines was see.
I've had a shot at one. I've never killed one. I've never been with dogs. You know how dandelions, so it's just kind of been on that happened
but I was still in the same country and I was walking on the top of this clear.
As looking down at the Rocky Mountain Goats GOAT, I have ever seen. A goat is a white with a little black horns. While they live up in the tourist,
steep country. So I'm about top of this cliff looking down at the goats and urges by myself sneaking along, and I look up
further down the down the cliff and there's a lion. Stand there watching the same goats, so I
I didn't, have a tag for the goes home just kind of watching them. They only have one
time for that area. It's really really tough together, but still others awesome animals in
I looked down and there's a lion watching the same goats and you can see they if those goats get too high, they get killed
the lion, so they can stay a little lower. Doesn't that they figured out
but they're lying just waiting for one to make mistake why we just a second.
From being able to get a shot. Excited lion tag mount my aunt Hannah. You just can't hunt him here, but we can honeymoon in Oregon banal. Manette with dogs.
But I second checking getting shot in right before he looked at me and took off so I've
in that line. I've
I saw a lion chase and a cow elk back there. There there knocked her.
Please don't see many lions out in daylight. Lesser hunting like tat but
I've seen him. Do you hear them like when you campaign yeah they may yeah
You know I may not have known what it was, but they do. May
a noise, unlike any I've, ever heard. You know- and that's lions and was silent. I don't know it be hard to describe but
a shot. I can't I can't you do align impression. I can do it
like that now deeper yeah, now down more like a bear, but the otter now, but
creepy yeah something you're, exactly something that you like. That's weird
ever seen the photo of the the lion and the ram dead on the road, but they had fallen off the cliff,
with the line the ram or duking it out there, and apparently they
both went over the edge
to me, is one of the most powerful photographs of the struggle of nature, the the tooth
Fang and claw of the wilderness, and that happens all the time. You sure you just don't have picture
yeah it's not on the not on a road they yeah. That's they deal without all the time both of em deal, nettlesome yeah and
do you know it is what it is there
my last picture Jamie. That's a crate
pick here? This is the picture. The series of them
the two of them lying down,
on the road and has such a powerful photograph yeah. It's just me
You realize like what insane struggle. It is to try to be
surviving as an animal
wilderness and seal it. That's all snow piled up there. You know it's cold, its mean they're out there. Three and sixty five days a year turned survives. That's why I think about it. I think about
what they go through and I'm workin out and a society there's so much tougher. I mean we're, so
so, weak ass, a society
to lay on the couch watching tv. Haven't everything well
milk is laying out there in the rain and the snow and the whatever again so tough. It's always think about there's this gap between me and at a ball. I need to close that gap.
Because it just getting wider and wider every day for most of you
Close advice, get tougher and tougher and tougher, I'm gonna be more unequal, Plainfield and be more of a predator like a lion.
You know what I mean or a wolf. Haven't you decide to specialise in Elk?
just a biggest animal near you in Oregon, yeah
it's like you know, is probably the most respected and regal animal that I could afford to hunt. You know I didn't when I first started hunting a deer tag is like one thousand one hundred and fifty. I could afford an elk tag because they were twenty five bucks.
When he five dollars know em ever gonna had Elk Anna. So that's just so I or don't have any money and then was I could
Ford Elk. It was that year that I that I killed that one with the bow, and you know so I mean it like thirty bucks, I'm like I need to get my money's worth out of this thing between us. I think it went up a little bit.
We seven fifty or something like that. But yet I was either just. Is this the biggest most respected animal? A animal a is just like man. I could never dream honey sheep at that time or on Buffalo or whatever so
is Elk and Elk mean if you got five hundred pounds, a meat of an animal. What is that worth money wise mean that what a bargain for twenty
dollar tag. Get five hundred pound will obviously have to pay for your equipment.
Your time and you would noting it'd our pencil out because it doesn't want. You put you figure out the time and you look at
Boaz right here. These are now shoot by timing
this both set up here with arrows and everything else. It's like two thousand bucks, so you don't want to
sold out that it's is not about the value of it. You know what I mean, so it's anxious about more about just think
france- and why did you decide to go to Australia to shoot these water Buffalo just for the experience of it yeah just I wanted it.
He always like when I'm not huntin, now just being in my
first working and I read your work, I feel like I'm dying
basically de real yeah. I just feel like what
boss is listening right now. Another is:
what the fuck am I like it here, but now I do like you in the office your yet I am well
I I like it. There damage control, sorry,
listen man I farragos dine on, I was doing fear factor. I know you're talking about
I just feel like that's not what I'm, what you want to do meant to do. Yeah,
I just need. I need
to be outside and need to be challenged us all my? What can I do and so came out
it was in December just recently and I'm like I want to go
Do something I'm ever down so late hook me up with Adam down there and Australia, and I wanted to do actually when I first decided to go
there it was it was just can be to give away about what to do with the boughs,
I get done. Shooting them for the year is, I hold these contests and psych wind camps bow, and I just say
if you want to win my bow from last year, show up at this time and beat me:
any challenge
the challenges I put out there and you came about and so on.
Gonna do a win bow in Australia because die of so many people that order my shirts and hats and in everything
from down there are MIKE. I need to get down there see these people in. Oh, I just wanna. Do I just felt
much support down there and that's cool yes, oh I asked Hoyt. I said I want to do a win abode down and down.
Can you help me set it up? You know what the pro shops are. The archery shops down there, so just kind of turned into a honda. At the same time, I'm like yeah I'll, do a hundred, also so
That was what I did a heart than I did. The wind comes both contest and adjust title altogether and what was the with the contest? Would they have to do to when you, but they had to
beat me a running. Well,
We ran than we did pushups than we did pull ups and
we did a hundred yards shot. So if you be me at those, you get my back off
three. They have to be issued all them for for all four of them and then, if NATO
Daily beat your three of them
Then I only enhance and next now then I get to choose who I give it to give it away either way. Right I mean I'm not like you guys, suck I'm taking my Baja now I just then I get to thing is
Can you give it away to somebody if somebody
beats me all that it's no questions is your bow and if nobody
I choose out of the contestants, and so I have given it to this on thirteen year old girl there, and now I just liked her heart. You know it was a hundred degrees,
like a hundred per cent. Humanity is just brutal
now we arena. We ran twelve labs around this like it, I think it's cricket field, but is about in all five k, like,
point one miles, and so we are running in. Nobody beat me at that, but she was just out their grinding and sweating and high
and just shown a lot, a heart, and she did the pull ups and, of course, didn't when the pole of this
did pushups and then at the hundred yards shot she made.
Awesome shot. I mean she wasn't the closest, but,
a good shouted a hundred yards of the 3d blowout out and in others
people who beater there, but I don't think anybody showed is much harder. She did so. I gave her the bone and it was an eighty power
so I can see. I don't know if I told her, I said you don't need to keep it, you can sell it
clothes. You can do whatever you want with it. The point is: is your effort to me one this boat
that's cool man. It's up to you. That's really cool
now when you went out their hunting, the water Buffalo, you camped out there we camped out there in the bush. Yet there was,
There is actually a we state in this village from the aborigines they were without them.
We'll be there, but there is actually
Nobody there and we had to hunt
called traditional land native land. You have to get permission from the aborigines to hunt it in
whereas told us probably fifty white men had ever been there just because its is wild country issues where they live
but nobody's in the village, and we don't know while was abandoned or whatever you know something. I guess if an l
her dies, they will leave, they think there's bad spirits
the village, so they just leave everything and take off. So we don't know for sure why it was empty, but we were just there by ourselves and we just
They sat on the porch of this hut out their Anna. We didn't
Adam who a few hours without therewith, he was like when we
to the helicopter out. There's only way to get. There was a four hour helicopter ride and I
do we want to go any further is like he was, I think, would be better for you
lived off the land and I'm like cats are thus cool. I didn't know what was out there for sure turns out. There's not much safer. Vat was
That was not the best idea to try to live off the land. Luckily
another guy Owen win if he did bring some food, but still we didn't have hardly have any food. I mean I had a granola bar and hasn't trail
from airport and
had a granola bar and then Owen. He brought some apples and orange
stuff, I that, but all that was gone fast and we're out there five full days
It was a hundred and twenty degrees Fahrenheit out there and
The water was like it looked like this coffee, I'm kinda, but I've got a buffalo lived in it.
And they just peers and share out so
We would we'd have to treat that water. Are you drink that water there's nothing else,
my goodness ourselves
process. What does Buffalo plus tastes like exactly it's you know surprisingly
not that good
you put it through filters. These g boil it like we, here's owed for
report it through our shirt again try to get them
chunks out right, like our own broadband,
we're on time it he's. I put this smell. I can I just like my
Lopez, any new you're gonna have to during the S report through the shirt
We didn't throw palm Adam had a pomp and then he
add a stair pan, we're gonna pump up a water. Knowledge is four filtering water. Ok,
I don't know what kind of us, but it filters
through a pump system yeah, you know you're carbon right, yeah, it's a filter, this supposedly queens water. So
and then we had a stair upon, which is a uv light that also clean water
We had the shirt, the filter, the stair, Japan.
And then he's like okay. So we got all that now. What is it's knocking? Is it a like a cop like this, and I was like
still smells smiled, no different, so we drank that. My guy, like that, I'd like it, was no boiling it nothing
oh, my god, you during Stray buffalo purse and shit to right. What about the the bacteria and like other that stuff that you get like when you drink stream water, which has called its real common Georgi Georgia? We that's what that stuff is supposed to kill or take out wow yeah so
Adam. He is he's like took a drink of it and his kind of winning
convulsions. I, like my bodies, rejecting it, urges nasty in and then there's no time so we we found this. We found some.
Hamburger, paddies, thou or from the natives there they had the freezer. I should
government or whoever it is comes in there they put power, and why
Are there solar power because it so you know Tom, Sunny down there so on
there was a freezer hasn't Hamburg
Berger Patty. So we stole those and were cook in those up so Redonda like one last
how'd. He and I had it. I took it because I had no.
And I had it in my trail- makes but about
x I had no more trail- makes are headed in there and I had one
Cook hamburger, Paddy Nonmember loosen.
And we just drank it. A big old vat of Buffalo Piss Water, like man, you know owed, go good. This is that hamburger patty. So I did my backpack full
My trail makes it the hamburger bag
we're Patty in it and adjust solid ants. I mean answer all filled.
And systematic re. Your little cool black ants,
we have here. Just read Mean
whatever ads and just all over in my backpack over that Patty, but so all I did. I just blew off scraped him off
I'm off the hammer, padding aid it. Why don't you see the ants to wash your love is totally gangster. I mean you drink it. Powerful of pet animals will eat Samantha. But you know yours thing is you know, experience
like that is that work.
Appreciate you know
now how good we have it, because you you realize all at all that matters is something to drink and something to eat. That's it yeah! You have to keep your body
live no other way to know until you get home, and you see people complain about others no ice for this water. I drink this warm water like
that water looks pretty damn good. I mean I've drink some nasty water and I'd. Take that so just put there
They in perspective you now and you
to make sure that you're not getting dehydrated to see. If there's a lot of that piss water here, you do yeah. What kind of
Orkut Diarrhoea did you guys develop? I just need to know because I was to be like some broken fire. Hydrants type diarrhoea. No, you didn't
now. I must at it I mean we must have got a pretty clean. You must have a strong constitution, I guess so now the
I follow itself. You said that you guys eight, that we had nothing to eat and we would
me about this before the podcast started, but for the folks at home,
Where was out like yeah? It was so the backdrop is typically the best cut of any game animals right along spot
and there's no bounds and adjust big solid meat and is usually just
Gon Elk like is good as it gets. Tenderloin India, and so we cut that often cooked out up in these buffalo, was so cut up in
picked it up. So I take a bite and I shoot my bowed smell the day. I was sure
for probably maybe a half hour came back.
They'll chewing the same by and so the thing about these buff
because there's no predators and we are trying to kill the the biggest bulls out there, but could be thirty years old,
anything in the animal that old in those conditions, the muscle
we're going to be so muscle, you're eating the muscles are going to be. You know whatever just not very pliable Adele's yeah dance, and so I too, that one bite of the premium cut for half hours like eating.
You ask what about the organs to cheat the liver. Now, how come I? Never yet you don't like liver now,
don't like liberally from a dear now really now, why? I don't know man s my favorite part that just filters all that crap
so good for you there
does a good job of filtering the cap, I'm not deliver guy, that's interesting, you know
they offer. Wolf is the one that gets the lever when they take out an animal when we consider the others true. Now the alpha Wulf the battle over,
get the liver and that's how they determine the alpha status of the packs that they'd, the wolf who's the bad mother fucker he's the one
the liver. There was a documentary this guy who lived with wolves there isn't in there was.
Contained area,
forget where it was forget what part the world, but this one guy lived with these wolves in this contained area and he was the alpha and the way that
he became the alpha. Is he was with these Wilson's? There were little and he
would always eat liver in front of them,
so he would have an animal that they would give to these wolves and he would put a
ever inside of this animal and they would like open up the zip block bag, pull this liver and eat in front of them.
So they knew that because he was eating the the live.
He the alpha, while he went away because he had to deal with there was
Local farmer that had a wolf invasion, the war
for killing his livestock, so this guy,
I had to assist this farmer in one of the ways the assistant Emmy set up all the speakers where he had howls like you set up like
if there was like a new pack, it in
crouched into this area, and he
set up. This whole elaborate thing to try to ward off these wolves without having to kill them, and then
You know some time went by several weeks and he went back to
The though the wolves and a new alpha was there, so he had to beg for his life in front of this new office
a whimper and he had a languidly. I was really intense. It was bearing its teeth. It was challenging him for the opposition, and so he had to get out of it by being a bitch, because normally wolves will duke it out and find out. Why? Oh, oh you, the alpha now would say with some bitch and in other would do
it out to sea hook. This Wolfe was determined, eat that liver, and so he had a like. They did. You had a fight
his position hack by begging, begging for his life. I like
So I do like how simple life is in the mountains. In all remain I mean there's one leader, there's issues, that's that
that when I was young, I liked being back there, because I didn't have to worry about you know
whether somebody liked me or whether I had money or whether any help from any
buddy? It was just like so simple and so cut and dry just like that. There's one alpha wolf me: neither are you tougher or is he tougher? You know what I mean and that's I just liked it how black and white the mountains are. You know if you're, not tough, you die
yeah, that's that's great, if you're, tough, Australia, if you're, not tat, you want to get back home the internet like fuck this place, I need air conditioning Anita blanket. I did.
Did a commercial at the wall for under armor this now we found a last year, but I I thought the bit that
ending to that commercial would have been if I could have killed that wolf because is a slight how our wine is me and the Wolf route
run into the woods, were both doing the same things and on and then they
ended with me. I had a blowout at killed, but we just took the rack up there, but it had run my pack
wolf came up. Any saw me with that boy. Elk is like. I won, because
hunting down, but I got it so the wolf jumped up on
Slog and he snarled and was not happy at that as a man is the best in into this, would be if I just era that Wolf too
What gives you gotta, color infer
that I won, but right an Thou doubts
Tell the story right there, while thou would really like send at home for under armor thou people, boy car, they would say, is killing wolves.
The commercial play it yeah. That's it that's! The volume of preparation.
And the right gear you can become
nature has even very like pits everyone.
That is why we really have to go red on the last. Ditch ass train drivers, that was a trade war, is an actual real trained, a real wolf, not like a hybrid none honour. Not I was in that
wolf. Actually, so it was now
had been in. Like the twilight movies. You know I mean it's. It's sort of a famous wolf butter,
The thing about it is to make a snarl like that. I took some Elks take up there.
I was going to give it. I was going to give us a milk after it did this whole thing, but to make it mad like that, you had to give it meat and take it away,
give me take it away while and they said they said: ok yeah, we, the trainer, said
We can make it man and snarl acute need for the commercial, but
we do that were done. Causest can be pissed off for
whereas the day so now is laughing so the
Wolf had been, I think there
since it was five weeks old and was eleven years old, but is still crazy.
The wolf. I mean you, don't they have that IRAN so's pretty, is pretty
yeah. I had a friend who had hybrids: they weren't for wolves, their alike in all seven eighth wall for someone that, but he
add them and they got away from him. They go. There were in his his yard and they went over to the neighbors property and killed like someone. Eighty
in sheep or somewhere. There was one
just an orgy of murder and slaughter, this guy sheep there now and then yet of the rancher- comes over
arrested him and he tried to deny it gives us a glimpse of bath and unlike come on,
what the fuck else going to kill. Eighteen, if I'm I'm outlines, you'll kill one eat it, it's of wealth,
Wolf dog has gonna, go
mad orgy of murder, they read aloud in I've, always been a fan of walls which is kind of quota that commercial with the wolf. But now I read, you know, call the wild- and I was a kid white thing all that, but
That day, I read a lot about walls and their that one only animals I'll do thrill killing. You kill just kill a budget things just to kill him
where, whereas other animals usually kill just what they eat,
yeah. They had a problem with that recently at this ranch in Montana, where these pack of wolves Scott.
Cows and then just slaughtered a bunch of calves like now a ton of, unlike in twelve calves and left them mean
a part of him but left a lot of them to sit in their dead frozen and its is
really creepy seen it was on a television show, those watching and when
You know these calves that are more.
Fully covered in snow. You see,
bodies, and you see this the havoc that these things there there too close to people the fuckin walls in there.
Creepy in a weird way: their smart, their sneaky their strategic,
chicken, how they kill things there, and then they do this.
We'll killing their noise. I mean and he kept
the Wolf ashes, how they are, but we don't need a
bunch run around the I mean he people over
weird relationship with them because they look so much like dogs. You know it's a strange sort of a relationship that people who love wildlife have that they would be cured of really fucking quickly if they're out there in the woods and they saw a pack of wolves yeah as they would realise. Oh, these are monsters yeah. These
These are the things that they made little red riding heard about this is this? Is the big bad wolf? There's a reason why all of those children stories involved evil, wolves because wolves eat kids
on a regular basis back then well its people that there is not realistic.
Baron. I mean a wolf that they're just looking for something to kill yeah, whether there's your baby,
you you, a deer yeah now, and people like at Timothy Tread well up in when he was living with the bears, and he thought o bears are my friends. He now this elementary
how are you him and his girlfriend
they're, not your friends, not even slightly they. They d, always what they are eating. You because you don't eat you every day, so that not used to seeing you as food. That's it that's all. It is
with wolves daylight. His mother Fucker might have a bank stick.
Well, you look and what's a thing in his hand and might go back there,
the bank stick a few times and they go running there.
I am a big fan of wolves. I am a big fan of wolves and I'm not a big fan of walls like a big fan as far as them like just like. I am a big fan of lions. I think even Mound Leslie,
fascinating just wild animals, while predators are absolutely there that their chanting away. Just this
idea that this thing exists along
with us with our laws,
pays and our electric cars and our wifi along with this.
In time
Very same moment we're doing this podcast there's some
gangster ass Mountain line in Arizona right now get shit down on a mountain snake,
up on some ram or whatever the fuck. You can get his teeth onto and that's
He does every day in his thousands of them, not just
on the whole community amount lions and there that's what they do, whether it's the wolves in Idaho that are destroying the Erika the mouth there there really really fascinating, but people or anti hunting needed
standing just because a lot of people don't like to eat my mind or these because nobody eats wolves. You still need to kill those things like in its important echoes of, if it doesn't happen
they're going to creep into
civilian areas the same way they use to back. In the day when they were right knows little red riding had books here. I've told a story in the pot guess before, but I'll tell it again in Paris.
Fourteen hundreds wolves killed forty people in Paris
they had a corner, wolves in the streets of Paris and kill them with spears and sticks and rocks like there not to be found
This is not there not your dogs is not.
A beautiful animal that you know has a relationship that mean
the way we treat like kill away
secure? Well, don't kill people in the wild; they actually help people to fall out of boats.
You know the killer. Whales might be a friends. We should probably way nicely. Should show well, then, where are the true yeah there's something about a hunting, a predator? In our mean, I've done a lot of.
Our, and I was up in Alberta this year. In all love, people bear ha now the likes it up in a tree standing. There
Like I said I want I want to hurt. I wanna Hunt
a predator in their seven for black bear their huge, but I wanna be.
On the ground. I was up there with John Rivet IN and Alberta. I said I want,
on the ground living amongst on and there's something about,
and so we did that says you're here
cook in here that call that bear crack. There
Are you beat him up there and are there so many?
bear up there in kill tube, there's a slight tons of where you need to manage a number, but so that bear we called bear crackers once they get hooked on the crack. You
there. There I mean they're coming and when his bare crack with Woody Whitson Woody, William Nixon in there,
smell owes and jello and stuff like that. Do something smells good, but but those bears give cook it he adds. Can I get it way
in there in the air and then the smoke goes after their butter. I wanted I wouldn't
that barrows probably was Alec, maybe twelve feet
yeah. Don't pull a video begin? Jamie live!
where's, that's prepare to man said good bye and we should point out probably the black bear, much less likely to attack a person than a grisly yeah. I mean though,
the thing is with wild animal they'll do whatever they want their. I mean yeah how that works out I mean you might get attacking you, hey you're, less light,
We do it doesnt matter, so
ever know a bear, a bare comes and they
any animal make a decision right dental what they want to do. You know if it's a predator, if it's a dominant predator dominant bear, are more
likely just come walkin right in like that, and they say you better leave cause I'm coming in and those that
the ones. I mean those the one I go after I want the dominant animal and endow one thou wasn't like one of the giant. There's a big bear, but not one giant there, but
something about being on the ground. I'd I with the oppressor like that. That sir I mean that's just what
like to do so. You pass on their bags, was too small wow, that's a big pair, yet it was, but it wasn't. Seven foot four hundred pounds
I learned that I got well how big was foot, maybe as Ex probably six foot. Maybe you know to fifty ten,
Y know. Why do you want the dominant ones there that you know
older? Sometimes those old bores don't breed.
Much as I used to a lot of the old bores, especially a dominant bore, we'll kill other bear
so even if its own column, it breeds lotta, sounds in honour in their prime.
So. The south have cubs a dominant, boring
heal the Cubs, because he's trying to eliminate competition for him
so he'll kill his own cubs dashes how it works and they eat M tour. Yet again
They either I mean I've. I had this. We were
on Prince of Wales. Ireland went that's really
Video is right here, Prince well ion one time or not.
This is the last of this. Isn't principles but of sky hit this barren. We can't write it down
we came back the next day to recover it and the dominant bore had eaten his bare. That's they are just I don't know it's this survival. The fittest basic
so those so you want. We take those dominant boards out of there and it pretty much helps the health of the of the herd, basically armor, not not to hurt, but the numbers bears aren't heard, but what it, whatever the
How many bears are there if it'll help you not taking that big nasty dominant one out of there and that's you know, I don't know I I I just don't need to kill just to kill
I've killed nor I first started I killed anything can happen
chance, adders wanna, do not shot tagged. Take me home to my family and have success now me, like. I hunted back home for dear
in Oregon and I didn't kill. I passed up everything because I never saw the animal that I want to kill. I never saw the other a mature by
one that I wanted to get so I just didn't kill. I don't need to kill. If, if I'm going to it's going to be something that you know, I'm really I don't know if actuator with her just
sold on the early want that. So it's just a matter of you just did. Did you see good dear? He just didn't see a great one, yeah yeah, so good box, probably most people would kill him.
But I didn't see the one I wanted. What were you looking for? How big a big enough for by four
kind of like in a like what you got their nuclear thy meal, but this blackmail factor Addison Wash in Oregon so good for by for black, tell in all five years old, good, mature buck, and it has never had a chance at once. I didn't
de Keyser. Now these bear the you're killing in Alberta, sober was Prince Alaska. Where was it principles of this last one night? We should that clip that was Alberta, Alberta you eating. These bears yeah, oh yeah. Now I eat everything.
So what is it tastes like when he, this big old bear Chicken now bear you know bearer. I've had really good bare and used to be so
like. If you have a bear, this living on berries and you get up there and amount to kids can be really sweet meat because, as you,
blueberries or whatever else. If you have a bear, this coming debate and paint like some people bait down here, just with meat scraps or whatever may have maggots spinal can be thy good. You know, but those Baron Alberta, most Seward, there's just grain is what were put out their little bureaucrats. Are those bear a really good? I don't want it tastes like it's more like
Its fatter meet, maybe more like pork, but it's good. What are they eating for the most part, with their diet consist of
in Alberta, man, what
then get a hold of
I whatever ass,
depends on the time of the year so but they'll take they'll. Take
come out over grass any day
yeah. What's this episode of mediator with thirsty vanilla where he went for these fall,
airs that were fattening up before they would hibernate and they were eating berries there eating bluebirds any. It was
credible because, as he was cutting this bear open. Like you see, the fat is actually blue, yeah scuttling, a blue tint to it from
berries animal been eating and he said I was just unbelievably good good yeah. Now and that's you know yet those huge blackberries or if their eating fish like in Alaska, if they're dead
like I'm prince of Wales, they can eat a lot of fish at come in and those bears are huge because of all that. Protein just is so about their diet. They get giant because they're eating solid protein all the time, but those bears aren't as good from fish for what,
reason? The tale fishy about fish you just not as sweet yoga heard like Diver doc.
Die related to types of dogs? For folks, I don't know, there's duck city,
vegetation, diver dockside go into the water neat fish and those
it is like shit, yeah yeah. Now it's probably now his private same with anything you are with cheap.
Exact, subjugated to pursue, make sure it's a vegetarian. There's a sea renault with this blueberry fat bear. It is like a merry
almost have liquid room town
the very old accounts
pioneering Alaskan
even that longer makin, a nineteen fifties, everybody
We want to kill a big fat bare and fall like this on. Various committees have water and oil,
and they would kill. These bears take the fact
just delay by winners were the butter and oil
or should call border Britain or something
to his body is spread the fair when she could spread the fat. Innocent
thing that's on fourchan. Is everybody can't do that
as is usual literally none of game for everybody. If the entire country went hunting now they're not going to it
in the second said when I thought so too, writing about my heart in the mounds, even people that thought they wanted to do it didn't want to do it. I mean you, not everybody, wants it
that yeah, what the word its hard work, man target
I enjoyed it very very much, but
I'm not scared work hard and I like new experiences. So for me it was. It was very exciting in invigorating, but I could see someone was a bitch who can handle
oh yeah. There's. Nothing is not an easy about carrying
your gear or use survival gear trying to get an animal. I mean it. Sometimes I've been on.
Even now that are so tough on. I wondered: how have I ever kill anything with a bow? He just seems impossible to get in bow range and make a good shot and recover the animal and
So tough Rinaldo was told me about this moose that they shot where he
to carry it. They did nothing but go
to this moose cut it up and carry it back for three
is because it was like a nine mile trip, so they would go to camp. They would get up in the morning. Go hide
to where the moose was take pieces of the most put in their packs and then walked back and they did it for three days and around the city wasn't right for two weeks, yeah said his body was is broken down now. That's
I you earn everything you get the mounds the mountains
the one way or another, most people.
It's like an experience that its unfortunate, but when you do do it the people that do do it there-
one of the third thrills of it is that most people are not your experience that, but I think you should build a respected
unless it thinks that it is not saying you need to do it, but now
It's not too much to ask to respect what it takes. Do you find that people disrespect it well, I do think that
they minimizes thinking like oh yeah, do you think you're a big man forego now out? I get anti hunters who
on my son, my videos or you know, from
killing innocent animal I suspect you, don't you don't even get it yeah. That's a weird thing that people love to saying he loved. To say that
innocent animal there's nothing innocent of our being an animal. By the way
Animals are living by the wild mean. That's that's what they're doing there there's nothing innocent
out its probably the least innocent thing that
in creature does, if they have to kill to survive in the animal, will yeah meanness
about yeah and death by the way run you over what those forgone antlers. Oh yeah, the maggots
I urge you and run those fucking things through your cash kebab yeah. Now now it's so
it is in the snake, so vast US
No, I like video in the work in the
for all that, because
You don't necessarily have to do what I do, but just respect it. You know, and thus that's a thing I mean,
I dont show all that for tried it to get respect, but I do want, in our people have an easier time.
With both hunting, for whatever reason, because it seems like its harder you now and then that, though thou easily say native stuff about
rifle hunting today say: oh, you don't have to be closely. You can shoot from four hundred yards. You would area both bo
for whatever reason, we get a little more of a pass because it is difficult, so
and rifle hunting start to I'm not. I don't want to stay right on his easy because it's a whole different deal: you're you're hunting in there's more competition,
with the rifle out there. She competing as other guys, Adam
hundred little more so that more wary by that time. Here
the rifle Hyaenas still tough. In an end, those
have my respect as well, but just for the general population seems like bow hunting and bologna cool right now
I mean, is gaining unpopularity issues really yeah. It's just you now have. What would
www tribute that you are now Cameron. Haines videos on lies all owe me. I did it all. I mean for Roma Hunger games. You know what it is TAT S out that well, it's just kind of its kind of cool and then
I get a lot of emails and
balance from young guys who want to be more bad, are so to speak and and and bow hunting. I mean shootin above always
cool yeah yeah, we'll folks. If we only want to shoot anything, didn't want to kill and animal you, maybe a vegetarian whatever you might just be fine, John.
Common style go to the supermarket and buying your stake? Nothing wrong with that! But
I really love archery and I've rediscovered it. I didn't when I was a kid. I was in the boy scouts and
enjoyed it then, but I never really got into it. I just did a few times now is that it was fun, but man since I picked up the this
Oh, I guess I got it about a couple of months ago. I really
joy. I just enjoy shooting targets. It's early fund because
when you're concentrating on that target.
You're, not thinking of nothing else, it's very difficult. You trying to be steady when you're trying to be steady, there's something Zan and went in.
Zen activity. There's something that's it
using or something I mean, I I don't know what it is, but in order to really be accurate with a bow require, so much discipline does and does
in don't getting out shooting a bow. I like it out in summer. She
off listen. Music, just by myself, are usually go by myself and just
something about watch an arrow arc and drop into the target in mass. Just are known.
Powerful its relaxing. It's in, like you know like what you mention, and I think
people, see that and then you look at the boughs and the boughs cool everybody there. You know you'll be
into also by your arrow- is like your signature, so everybody has their arrow and it's got there
colors, you know what I mean and it's got you can get custom wraps on it. So I have wraps to say: fear is a liar in Flechas, a beast mode.
And so your arrow becomes. You know everybody if you
Can some in your with other guys, are risking your your is just kind of cool, so you can customize people they see?
their bows and they take a lotta pride and how their
I is set up and everybody believes it. Their set up is better than the next guys because for
ever reason. Just you know people get so invested in an archery. It's just! I don't know. It's powerful and, unlike of said before
or above any changed my life. I mean I went from from the kid.
I had no direction basically to now. I know exactly what I want to do and who I want to be, and it's you know allowed me to get on talk to Joe Rogan here in LA bow hunting
I mean that the seems crazy to me. So it's it's! It's just a powerful.
And you were under Armor Sherman underarm responses. You Mimi, they make your shirts. They didn't just that alone, you're under our commercial, with a wolf yeah now under armor. They ve been
and my longest sponsor, and I think
They told me on their their longest tenured professional athletes.
Real nice. That's incredible! How did you get involved with them
news actually whereat Shaw, show like so ten years ago. I think a lot,
by their booth and they had theirs
Your Randy White, who is where an under armor and the headed in their booth he stammered out. There are the
in writing. I paid for the cowboys Superbowl envy P, and he had is this Bo Mike dang. His looks like a masters like fifty some years old and his view
in every word to stud cut my tension on my so I talked her air Crawford was a guy's name with it. The booth- and I myself, how can so as our here guys are that you're sports, you know just you know football on in baseball things like that. You are working in the hunting. Another had was like they, the green of the brain.
Just type stuff for hunting. Does that first lair as at all ass cool? So it is kind of,
he had seen me out editing this magazine called Eastman Bow Hunting Journal and he had got the magazine
so he knew who I was so just gonna started from there. I signed on with them in their hunting. Light now is,
huge yeah, there's a commercial that I make fun of
comes on because it so silly theirs.
All these athletes, like there's this woman
like a professional skeer. I guess it is always different athletes, duels, athletics up and then there's a.
Duck Dynasty guy was big
whom the face and his look at around they're talking about athletes and is blown is duck MIKE. That's not an athlete! That's really! You can't
which was whether the fact eyes willing yeah you can make fun of me. I think that's like against some sort of law. Nope I just did these fat fuck is he's, got a big fuckin dinner plate face he's back these fat dude fattest fuck that good
you can go. Hunting with you is sitting around waiting for dogs to follows. Guy,
but it's a Larry's that, when his fat Moon pie face comes on no disrespect, that's what it's that's, what it says athlete like they say the word athletes that we make you no clothes for athletes like come on man. They didn't call me for the invitation call you for. That is what I'm saying we need. You know
You think. America's ready, I mean look. We have this duck dynasty show right. So it's a reality show which is left behind.
Not really reality shots script. Did this fake scenarios its but the power,
MRS Show involves hunting, and I
that's fascinating I'd. I think I think
shows ridiculous, but I like the fact that
it's a hugely popular show in the shows about hunting- and I-
I think it is a real, hypocritical attitude that a lot of people in this country have because of the fact that food is so readily available, because
it, so easy to go to the supermarket, buy food
will say: well, why would you want to get it yourself? You must be a cruel person.
Want to go out and shoot animals. I think, even though its
baby step, a show where alike
duck dynasty type, show we see these guys at our hunters and it's a hugely popular shower. Sixteen million people watching whatever the hell. It is that's good!
has that's slowly starting to integrate and it's ok, it's a duck.
And people don't really have seven is much of an affinity deducts as they do to Bambi you now
You're hunting show me a little bit more problematic button.
They needed to share with you dude does what I'm getting at
with you, help him out there in the warm tell him right now. There listen and trust me there's a lotta Hollywood people
the show shows- have been made because of people being on the show. That would be a there.
Fat moon pie face the fact that shit up this-
one sign that big fat you're, not an athlete man,
of illegally dad he's not ass. God. Look that delay that that's a fat man, so I set out dearest
that's a fat man. I know you're being nice but cut that shit may be a stud he's, got the potential inside of em, but
eaten. Second, cheat owes you so pies his dad his dad,
on that ship on deck dynasty. He he was an athlete. I think
is an state or something like that, but his back he's quarterback on the football team Willie's dad fill in his back.
Terry Bradshaw? Really, why that's?
fascinating yeah. That's interesting
How can fills all angry the gaze
stereo prompted the gaze yeah. He does allow is always very right. Areas was Phil Robertson, football see he is dead,
One point I am now is a gay basher, so angry about gaze, go Phil.
I don't care about. You should care about them, but you know, as far as me being on the tv show, so I
no sir Gawayne change gears like I did that that's a professional, that's a good man and the media would do it now. I have to turn in a contract today for reality should do you hear another? Really? That's why the reasons why here via the EU
We'll talk to me about it. After the monsieur they will fuck you over his things
tricky in the world, a reality tv, while this is just for the pilot. Ok, the way, if you sign up for the pilot you sign up for the rest, your life, I have a friend who they asked him to do. A reality show and fortune
we for him. He has on business is doing well, but it was his girl
I do not want to do, is really show, and he read the contract and he called me over. The phone is I listen to this. Shit is like
own, my likeness for life like they own him for life, like
their realizing because about you know it from survivor to fear factor all these shows on they realize, like fear, factor
Michael YO, is probably the only person that I know of that became famous because of fear factor.
Galileo is a comic unease on a really really nice guy late, but you're famous, you haven't seen as already wasn't really famous already, but I was onset kind. I don't know who Michael YO is in very nice. Guy is a comic, but my point was:
that, like me
I guess I certainly became more famous because of your factor but fear
do we really didn't make too many stars, but some of those shows made stars. You know some of these reality shows whether it's the bachelor. You know, of course, like the
singing shows, like american Idol, made a lot of stars
They realise that there is potential,
money to be made once you're from you you're on that show, they may be
star and then your business, your brand, or they want that brand. So they there some unscrupulous.
Producers and networks there? They have these, it all
compass in contracts that are insane argue
you're on the show, and then they fuckin own you and they can use your likeness till the day. You die. They own you for ever and it since
It's insane and people like I'll. Take it. I want to be famous like they'll, do whatever they can
give you went and did something else say. If you did that
and the reality should takes off and does well. But
or your doesn't do well and then gets cancelled, and then you wind up doing something else. A nap becomes, they still loan you, they stood. The first guy still owns you gotta distract over there. You need look, but you need to get a lawyer to look at it. It's it's. It's a tricky bills,
Thus this world of reality tv and they look at people as commodities, and they look at reality as being flexible, so the there
version of reality is not really reality and in their calling it reality shows, but a lot of what you're dealing with these people there.
Were involved in in fiction there were,
solved in like sitcoms or dramas or what have you and
producing reality tv now. So the engineer it it's all fake, like they have fake, set ups fake scenarios. I had a problem
with a show that I did for sigh FI, were an editor put a fake seen in they put a totally
took a video, they added sound to the video, and they said that a listener upon cast listener had sent this video in total lie complete
because I found out about it. I went fucking crazy at a shit fit. I couldn't believe it because, especially my show was all about trying to find the truth. You knows about Joe Rogan questions, everything except this fake fuckin, video prattling, but its standard, that's what they ve always done. They they have just been. They do it,
They think it makes a better date. They call it creative licensed right think it makes a better show that doesn't make a bet.
They don't have to do it. The just
Cameron Haines the Bow and Arrow Hunt for Elk. What will we call it? No doubt with a
Do it off the air, some fuckin steal our idea of the air
come up with a way to deal with you care
be careful there. Man don't get in bed with IRAN cats because
this disease? Sneaky town? You know, and they know, although this nice guy from or again yes is a sweet lily, probate tells the truth all the time poor, bastard family is probably honours. Edam alive there hunton and everything gone. We gotta get contracts whatever whatever don't worry, but all that we have to carry a will to carry a. I think, they'll be a greater.
I've said that about Steve Rinaldo Show to Stephen L show. In my opinion, the best hunting shown on television mediators are great, show its great showed not just because its
did show it's a great you no quarter
while reality show, but it is a real reality shall like he got charge
a grisly last night. The episode that I watch like they were
in the woods and they were. They were actually bear hunting and grisly mother with her her cat. No, what we call him cover ups Cubs charged her and charge them anymore
can re easy, she's giant grisly one through the bushes
whoa adsense and
the narration you know did Steve is a really well read. Guys is very intelligent.
Articulates fascinating these an introspective guy too, because the wit, the way here
Looks at these scenarios in life itself is really interesting in him. You know just talking.
A grizzly bears and cock talking about in the it it becomes.
An interesting show outside of the fact that it's a hunting share that you can have a good show you
where the kill a secondary. This is it right here. This is back it up, seek it
it before she runs at them. Cause it's
a fascinating. The issue
like circle around towards him and started get nervous, sir, so where they hunting, she asked yes gap. He didn't want the dreamer. We favour turned her, how she doesn't care all, obviously call him a highly. I wish you kill their side and she spawn peels are spends away and Callaghan says on earth. Did
m t shirt with him in his moustache indecisive smell ass now, eighty dollars now, lady business. That is because the Catalans demographic changes times I've got them all
for I knew it as you cause she guessed.
If I get down windows
it's all right in saying like now, the wind will carry my orders to realise that people should be messed with somebody else
that was leading within the of our need around right. Now
seems like she would unknown from the rifles going off to well yeah. Was she heard it ass? She was running shoes, probably breathing and growling and everyday, and probably know exactly what it wasn't. Those too late yeah they get pretty tunnel vision about protecting
I think these shows theirs.
An element of reality in a good hunting show that the wood-
the fascinating on regular television,
These shows a lot of em they're on sportsmen Channel, the outdoors network- or you know these these. These, what what would channels your show on outdoor channel, the outdoor channel and so the
these channels, like a lot of people, don't go to that area. For me, it's like six.
Hundred six, oh five, six or for so six on Directv and a lot of
don't go to that area, silicate from execute porn. That's like
the Future Exo six! Isn't that six, eighteen or other? Well, there's you know some fox sports is theirs for exports to or something like that, it's up there as well
one of those in some some sports channels or up in that area too. But you know it's a weird area of the dial and I think it's unfortunate, I say gum, that's the
untapped area.
I want to say this for Hollywood, because these same fucker do makes
egg scenarios are gonna, come in and ruin it, but a show like mediator, show following you around AL counting with a bow
there's so much George Roma in reality and that without having to add bullshit, you know in some
gotta. Do something like Demi Mediator does, but someone else could do a too when you make a pledge
there's gonna be no lying. There's going be no figures shit. This is all real, real and its great them.
You know motion real grilled, providing Yan
I've had that pitch to me recently about de showing because dislike the the
trade, not only the training for the heart, but that
camaraderie gettin out there like the challenges I do for my bow, giving back yet noticed that is all part of
story and yet were killed in an animal at the end? Hopefully, maybe not in oak is lotta hunts end with no kill, but just the the whole journey. You know, and it seems like you would make good tv.
Steve shows a lotta hans that have no tales like that, like that it gives a real like that hate that expression I'll keep it real either expressions beaten up said, is a beaten up and expression, but the you know having that effort
tis. You know he had a Mount Lionheart, but they didn't. You see him out there,
four! Nine days didn't see one here.
A recent l can't solve
We shall never get close enough to get a shot at one, and you know I think, that's important man. I think it's important to show people that this is it's. It's called hunting is not. Culture
meeting right here. We're gonna shoot animals today come. I watch us people think they drive on the truck and
in beer, whatever you do, and you see something to shoot at it acts as a deadly, not my hunting
well. That is the problem that the public opinion of hunting faces is the ignorance in own Hollywood helps
two? Does it yeah? I mean just like the scene, a Wolverines out. You mean the F Riah, so I mean they're showing supposedly huh
turns out there they shoot this. I think it's actually work
rain ass. He was an animal but shooting with a
in part era, which I don't even have never even seen employment potential, but so
has poison on the arrow shoots him. He turned back into a huge admiral wherever and then he goes.
He wants, if window user having met, Miss, read it, it was a bear
he found the bear no was killed, or you didn't turn into a bare now
I thought he was in the shit out of people mad. So how are you and you watching this man is on a plane- is probably in and out of sleeping the, but the point was as they got this this
out of the bear a yes and he went. He found the hunters there at the bar and
their drinking at the bar and he went in there and you know shove there, the poison arrow through the leaders,
and just like so is showing hunters as the bad people
mean the anxious like that, doesn't help anybody who debt
ever been to a bar after honey in endeavouring ever use poisoned arrows dislike is perpetuating that stereo
Well, you, and not only that the way you shoot at the point when you get to blow right through ports,
and being the arrow on the other side of town right, it's not even an effective way to transmit poison. You know you gotta get into the bloodstream here. You know when you shoot a missile through bears body, it doesn't work that way. Yet that is look dessert,
Hollywood stereotypes. These classic
black hat villains. Its is so easy to do just lazy yeah, but so I mean I think, people to have the
has the wrong idea in so having a show that would show that you know success on
with a bow, is around ten percent. So
play. Ninety percent of the guys out there pursuing elk with a bow and arrow are failing and it's his not guaranteed. It is really tough.
Showing our struggle and that's why
I mean that's wonders. Why train the way I do? I don't want to be in that ninety percent. You know my goals
be successful every single year. So, if you do with it
average guided does you're going to fail nine times out of ten. If you do
more than ever. If you do more than
anybody else or that the standard then may
you have more success, and so as it is.
I kill my bull every single year and anxious, I think it's not
as on many betters, because I just work harder preparing, so will you ve become better through hard work?
You become better with knowledge, become better with training with fitness with proper.
Issue with our, should he should hours every right. So it's just you know in that, but if people
see how difficult it really is and see that, like we did find
in Australia, where we have no food. We have. No water is a hundred times
degrees, he drank and pass drinkin pass that I take it. That would make
telling tv, because right now,
This is a lot different than I saw in the Wolverine movie. You know, I don't know, I think I think it would be not. I don't know. I think it be important to get out there
his hunters are the number one conservationists. There are ten sharing that story. Yeah. I
free- and you know some people find that contradictory, it's like
conversation with some we're talking about people.
And I was saying well- ok, if you, if you could only you know
if you only hunted like one person a year, but the rest
people you, you made sure you're fat man. You took care of Amerika great education and took care of their environment. Major the streets are clean. Would it be a
to go out and hunt. One person
like fuck, no itself like when you apply that animal on doing it's for a lot of
but that sort of the same sort of thing
They have but-
then understand is, as the apex predator people
like to think of as Us- is the apex predator, especially your vegetarian or fear, and animal rights lover, but
there's a war going on between all lifeforms on this planet,
just so far ahead of the other animals that we forgot it's war and we forgot that we have
these p w camps in our cities. We call them zoos.
Ok, that's what that is. Those are prisoners of war camps. That's what we don t!
this planet and the reason why you can get out of this office and go walk down the street and not worry about getting mauled is because we pay this mother fucker
and we killed everything they can kill us, and we made sure that everything that comes in, we call the cops and they sent helicopters and they fuckin circle the area with a flashlight until they find that cat and then they
tranquilizing they get the fuck out of here. We, this is our domain and you don't like today
it's our domain because you don't have to do any the work, but the reality comes into full force.
If you're alone, in Idaho, with a bow and arrow-
and you get circled by a bunch of howling beasts and they're trying to take the Elk away from you. That's cause real, clear, then far GAD does we are the apex predators, whether you're predator, not the human animal is the apex predator and as that, we
have to be the stewards of the land. We have to manage this whole situation and now
includes managing predators, it includes managing game. Animals includes the whole kitten caboodle and that's what hunters are that's what hunters dollars? Do is aid they put that hundreds of the grass roots out their feet on it,
around making it happen, and if you don't do that, you know the other option is
pay, someone to go, kill these animals, which is even more ridiculous as any take taxpayers. Money away
Take animals that are made out of food and you're gonna kill him
these are animals that people could have paid to go, kill and then enjoyed the food themselves now get a higher like what they're doing the hamptons we heard about the New York, they ve, oh dear massive, dear population, so their hiring snipers, we're trying to figure out what to do. They might spend money on ready for this Straube in
birth control for dear you're. Talking
spending hundreds of thousands of dollars to give dear food with birth control and to keep him from breathing.
Their made out of food. There there's plenty people who would like to go and help them control those animals and pay to do it while the
I am amazed that it's an urban area right and it's become they ve big. They ve. Let it get so out of control that,
These surrounding areas, the you know where you,
would have a safe area. We can hide, especially bow haunt you can do. It
it's so crazy, like they're gonna have to hire snipers
to figure out a way to demean. Are you dont want behind
where's roaming around the hamptons especially mean I wouldn't mind you doing it, but you know them say, unlike average Yahoo, the average dude you know you find out, he can go hunting the hamptons, and you know I don't know, madam you. I think you
have to have like a black belt and hunting to go hunting in Hampton. Even there
I don't know if I'd be really cool with you hunting near playground year, arrow misses the mark and goes flying into some kinda slide era were not yours right, you, meaning that other guy out there that doesn't what the fuck are. You I missed once, but it's I bet you did, but its that's. That's
the reality of the situation is that we are the ones as the intelligent creatures that can communicate were the ones who have made an assessment. We ve made a detailed analysis of all the different animals and the numbers, and we monitor them on a yearly basis and folks,
Dont know they don't appreciate that. I was in the hunter when I was young and I didn't understand hunting and I thought there was something
top about it. I would say why would anyone want to kill a deer Mandela? Dear beautiful now,
fishermen ice you a fishing, but that's where it ended for me, because I can't relate to a fish
fishing for me like TAT,
aliens like they live in this water world that I came to see and I throw some in their pull it out. Aid
can't relate to the right of the running around bread and water. Like I can help you, I don't know, I didn't you, take care, they're young seriously,
here! You're on your own, get the fuck out of here. It's it was
different thing for me, so I can relate,
the people that can't relate to hunters in that- and I don't know like, I think, get down there to the Beauchamp
and even just like you said- shooting a bow, you don't necessarily have to be a hunter, but if you can listen to a hunter and kind of
through their stories and listen to it. You don't I mean to have
go kill, but lottery
I learned a lot, a good life lessons out in the mountains, and maybe you can pick up on that. I like hanging out there in the shop to set up your
yesterday or not yesterday day before a thick was, is the bowl rack and Springfield Oregon and that's like
like a bar with no alcohol as far as listen into stories, its awesome sure I'll sit
the stool pigeon things up
other guys and is here and stories and that's you know you don't have to be a hunter to to enjoy that enjoy far fewer arrows. It, sir.
Soothing, while people that participate in the same sort of discipline they they they
enjoy that camaraderie together. They understand each other in a way that maybe other folks, don't you get that from Jujitsu Jim you now you get that from.
Boxing Jemmy get that from you know crossing
studio. You get that from
the thing that you do where the people can sort of relate is unusual activity that you partaken and
I think that that's that's somethin about archery. You know when you got like what I did the place
I went to the archery outpost in LOS Alamos that there is
the people around they talking about the
Have you seen the new Hoy? You know, I got a new cap on the Matthews and this has got it all. They got up the boat tat consent,
three fifty five feet: Proserpina blah blah blah all that shop talk in its
a lot of people are missing. That's
become robbery in their everyday life because most days for
Ninety five, you don't get to talk about what you want to talk about you have talked about.
Getting paid to talk about. You talk about what your job and tails and for most people their trapped trapped in this this world
you know. Unfortunately, you said you are on Sundays.
I didn't say that get this reality show brother get crack in Europe. There are fat moon pie, face guy on tv, sounds know, doc stout
hell, yeah you going out and arrows and bears and
everything's cool stuff, yeah mountains, yeah dude.
Bananas are bitter, really fine pike ass. I enjoy a very much. We can do this again for surely and keep me posted on this reality shown keep us posted and if it actually does come off, we will promote the hell out of a man promise for absolutely so
would want to find camera online. It's Cameron Haze on Twitter, but he don't use that so you gotta, find in my face.
Bucky uses Facebook. But Facebook go straight to twitter to another
you don't even know your your twitter password S, how magic yet somehow a magic connection. You had my buddy Collins at that for me. Well, they'll probably give think you pray reset it I'm sure they can reset afore yeah, but you should get on twitter to men, twitter, tutors, it's a great resource.
Instagram, also yeah, that's right in great photos on history and by the way you put a lot of cool stuff on Instagram. Very inspiration
you're, an inspirational guy, a love story, a lovelier, the you're ethic. I love what you're the philosophy
that you take in this life, and I really really true
We believe what I said that what you do
is inspirational and it creates action that
inspiration and it makes people do things it gives them. The energy and the enthusiasm to go out and
push things in their own, I think that's what life is all about? Really,
we're all in this together and I think,
We all benefit from each other. We benefit from fine examples of other human beings and I think, you're an excellent example of a human being, and it's an honor me so they say:
thanks and let us know, and what, when you're doing a show and on the outdoor channel, what is it? Well? I've been on tv
Tina us that's what I've been period, but where are you now have had a number of people protests about doing my own show, and so just trying to get that hammered out and, in addition to these reality shows that want some, the hard core hunter character
so we'll see what happens. Probably nothing will happen. None another did that something will happen. Don't say nothing. Why have you want something? Aben it'll happen again: we're gonna help. You make it happen, ashore definitely
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