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#501 - Randall Carlson

2014-05-15 | 🔗
Randall CarlsonĀ is a master builder and architectural designer, teacher, geometrician, geomythologist, geological explorer and renegade scholar
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about asteroids and just all kinds of crazy shit good geometry and you're a very interesting cat and you you got a lot of cool stuff to talk about so i am glad we finally got you here on a pike ass you are much requested guest on my online forum so folks know about you know about your work all these years of of on anonymity and now i'm suddenly here i don't know if i'm right for this year i think you're ready do less i feel it from you as you time to shine alright you're coming from you a protocol was ordered requires we had a great conversation when we first met and when he had ever since then i ve been trying to figure out a way to to repeat it online authors videos of us actually having parts of conversation but the its theirs
he's in the background or at the comedy club and rage governor yeah so you you first remember what we found we are talking about but he blew my mind when you start talking about the holocene crater and that this pretty distinct evidence that you know there's been more than one events on this earth the one that everybody knows about the sixty five million a year ago one with the big chunk of rock hit the baton and killed the dinosaurs but there's been a areas of those and that these thing may very well be responsible for a lot of the cataclysmic worries that korean epoch of gilgamesh the sorry story all these different fable and tales of ancient traditions may be based on these cataclysmic disasters and now since we ve spoke science has started to valid
a lot of your theories and ideas even more substantially the discovery of this nuclear glass that they find all throughout europe and asia tell me about other stuff well i did you catch the thing about a month ago i think was in new york most other major newspapers are a group of former nasa astronauts and scientists came out said we were new and were showing it we're probably somewhere between three and ten times more likely to encounter things than any had previously been estimating even five to ten years ago there was major article in to the mainstream media meanwhile encounter things by getting hit by some years of course you remember what happened on february fifteenth of two thousand and thirteen right what happened on february fifteenth was that area russian yeah
what was really interesting about that is because everybody was least people who are interested in a sort of thing were kind of looking to the sky anyway because this was the closest pass of of an asteroid coming within seventeen thousand miles of the earth at this time this object totally out of the blue came in unexploded over chelyabinsk siberia so it was very interesting and coincidental if there such things as coincidence that here when we expect thing very close fly by an acid at an earth asteroid coming actually within our dear synchronous satellites within the orbits of those satellites at this in time that this object is coming within seventeen thousand miles of the earth suddenly on practically here comes a second object in explodes
the force of about a year i believe it was about a fifty kiloton nuclear weapon and of course it had exploded quite high by twenty believer eighteen to twenty miles in the atmosphere and so it didn't kill anybody however the thing to bear in mind as if that object had been just a little bit better it had been a little bit dancer or the aim of approach had been a little steeper instead of one hundred injuries your problem could have been sixteen hundred or more casualties at tat point i think so old would have really sat up and take notice but it was finally just a warning shot it seems me that our knowledge of asteroids and meteor impacts and things of that nature the art are actual experience it is based on the short window that we called human history which is for the earth such a brief
i need blink of an eye could although i like point out there that you when you say human history we're talking you're four thousand five hundred to five thousand years ago generally i think most dumb historians of of ancient three will usually say that the emergence of kenya form riding in the middle east marks the beginning of official recorded history would you go to bear in mind that we might humans have been around a lot longer than that right now that as far as the hard evidence goes which it which is what i like to refer to which in skeletal remains what remains of humans that is fine as we know are basically no different in the modern humans if you put flash ottoman dressed him up and modern clothes and they walk down the street you wouldn't think they were anything unusual modern
a little skeletal remains of modern humans are now dating between a hundred and fifty hundred eighty thousand years so when you think about that you know compared to what we actually have our over our record of history a record of history is one twentieth one twenty fifth one thirtieth of the actual time that humans have been here not now it could be that humans have actually been here much longer than than a hundred eighty thousand years we have no way of knowing at what point we potter's first appeared on this planet but when you there a hundred eighty thousand years comparative let's say around numbers five thousand years it means that there is a lot of the human story missing and the thing that's always entreated me is that given the assumption that they would have had the same intelligence is all the same they ve got the same brain kay size the same cranial capacity so one would assume that with brain
as big as our modern brain say were able to think they had four they were able to plan ahead presumably have a have some kind of a tradition that could be passed on from generation to generation and accumulated learning but what we see is that basically no record to speak of what people were doing culturally in that has led a lot of scientists to assume that for all most tens of thousands of years and hundreds and hundreds of generations that people were actually living nothing more than a subsistence kind a hunter gatherer existence right but what they haven't taken into account is the extremity of some the global changes that have occurred in in interval that we humans have been here and as go through our discussion today and i will pull up some images i think you begin to get an idea of
extreme and house keeping some of these changes have been why in the aftermath of those changes we wouldn't shouldn't expect to find a whole lot of hard at cultural evidence because what your hopefully begin to appreciate is that work of these events of the scale and magnitude that have happened probably a dozen or more times in the that two hundred feet two hundred thousand years that we ve been here those events to occur today ten thousand years from now archaeology this would be sifting through the through the rubble looking for any kind of evidence that we had ever been here and that's the thing we to get into our consciousness in online if there's any any implications of the work that i've been doing is that we certainly can't take it
present position for granted it seems very difficult for us to put into perspective numbers like ten thousand or a hundred thousand million we know that the universe has been around allegedly for fourteen billion the soul the earth is four points six billion those numbers are so weird do they don't register their just like i know four billion is more than four hundred thousand but both of em are alien you don't i mean it's like her i don't think we can really wrap our head around the idea that thousand years is such an incredible a length of time that if you left a car for ten thousand years within you know three or four thousand and it would be absorbed completely by the earth joe within three or four centuries really oh yeah i mean if you look at steel body
as a member very well as a kid not far from where we live there was a otto junk otto graveyard and dumb all the teenagers around there who were racing cars back into fifties and crashing em up and we think they seem to end up there and as a kid i used to like to go in hang around here and play in some of the old cars but they were all after sitting out there for ten years i mean already well underweight or to rusting away i mean once that process of oxidation begins to take place it is exemplary it's not far from where i live in atlanta there was an old iron bridge that had been not built around that t nineties and it's not under their but by the eighty the nineteen eightys it had almost rusted nothing in within a century had almost rusted do nothing yeah metal does not last long when exposed to the elements it was an interesting series of shows a few years ago was it had to do with the idea of
what if humans just suddenly depart what if we took humans out of the clay equation what would and all of the infrastructure left behind just under normal and of gradual listing chain that were used to within the last few centuries yeah of a was as the ten thousand years from now it's pretty much gone you know i mean if you look at the that the great buildings that make up all the metropolis metropolitan here yes now of the world most of them are steel frame structures and their clothed in in a askin that that will keep the elements out maybe for half a century but without me i mean you know that the that the golden gate bridge up in san francisco is kind we on undergoing maintenance because if you stop maintaining it immediately it decaying immediately it starts rusting and dumb interesting if if we suddenly if humans left the planet
thousand years from now some some of it dollar anthropologist arrive would they see that would indicate that we had been here what what do you think would still be left after ten thousand years is actually to things that they named in this particular programme a bit guess one of my rushmore mirage more good good yes that's one of em and of course the great pier miranda other one and at yet you know everything else is gone while now we knew we knew now begin to factor in the thing that i've been basically working with this the idea we have these intermittent a calm non linearity is continuity within the normal orderly progression of things the catastrophes if you will show or impose a few of those in the process and basically five thousand ten thousand years from now you're not gonna find much to show that we had been here
that's incredible and when you see structures like i go beckley tapping which is within the last couple decades been on earth and in turkey which is really thrown giant monkey ranch into the time line of the hunter gather a transition into the modern agricultural city with where we're in a weird state because people started to dig up these things and beckley turkey was a completely unknown structure till this one farmer heard her had found stone and unearthing in and realized through these huge stone pillars of an unknown civilization carved with three dimensional shapes of these animals some of them were aren't even native to the area so incredible confusing and purposely covered fourteen twelve fourteen thousand years ago which me is that who knows how long it was there before it could have been set
a thousand years old when they decided to cover it up but it was purposely phil the inn enormous area purposely phil and somewhere around twelve thousand years ago could it have been purposely covered up in order to protect it and preserve it we'd be right that were hoping or they were hoping that someone like us would come along not ask doubling me may you come along and cover it and then go well what's what's this all about like maybe they knew that there were going to be moments in time where these things happen these impacts these asteroids impacts that there needed to be some sort of a way of of keeping track or some sort of way of preserving well out that would probably be one way of of preserving it for
and the other what thing would be just like him we man you mentioned we the two things my rushmore integrate pyramid of course our both built of stone which is obviously much more durable than steel or now the fabricated materials that were were making today even plastics even plastics are gonna degrade over a few millennium but if you want to preserve something for millennia make it out of stone and make a monumental and you know looking at it somebody like you just made an interesting point about it could we how much what previous too to the to the burial headed actually better and you know it's difficult to dates don't know where you would dates known is you can use various some or cause majestic ways where when you exposed stoned atmosphere it's going accumulate cosmic rays which cause changes within the stone can actually be measured but if it's buried it
not going to be subject to cosmic great so that you can't data that way which would probably have to do is date find some organic material with soil matrix ormond matrix of material around it and date that material even there see that's not gonna tell that's only gonna give you a minimum rate so in other words structures there for whom how long they decide to bury it may bring in the material and bury it and if some organic material is in that soil is not necessarily to be indicative of the age of the snow structure itself it's going to be an indicative of the time at which it was area and how did they determine it was very twelve thousand years ago was it the uniformity of the depth of i a servant i haven't made a study of go badly tapie yet i'm hoping that when i get a chance to hang out with graham hancock i'm gonna get filled it on all the details of that i dont know specifically about that
other you know i do suspect it you know spooning today is probably very old indonesia a lot of the money mental stonework that we find i get bail back we have these monstrous megaliths probably go back to place to six times and when i say pleistocene i'm talking about the period from like ten thousand is backed about two and a half million years ago that the time during which there has been the succession of glacial ages and interglacial ages and you know what you mention of term holocene we talked about that seen is essentially the modern geologically part we ve been in this policy in april for you generally they say ten thousand years in rough numbers although its becoming much more precise silly dated now you'll find a lot of france's in the scientific literature that says gives a date eleven point six
eleven thousand six hundred years as being the onset of the policy which is an interesting date for me because i know if you ve ever read plato and his counts of atlantis there's two of his dialogues critias into me us in which he describes atlantis gives the dating a near at least on three separate occasions and he always places it you know there's this whole success the whole lineage of the story goes back to seoul on who was it historical character and authenticated historical character who lived it about six hundred bc and he was able lawgiver and poet in athens and due to political pressure so he went into a ten year exile and during a ten year exile he went to egypt and it was there that presumably we heard detail of atlantis from elderly egyptian priests and he was told and came back and then told a story
his grandson who told it again to to really individuals before it actually got to socrates and and plato who presumably wrote it down but what is interesting is that in an platos account he he gives the dating for the demise of atlantis as ninth thousand years prior to salons exile to egypt were given that that took place and give or take a day eight or two six hundred bc we go back there two thousand six hundred years ago ok adapt to the ninety thousand years and we ve got eleven thousand six hundred years ago now according to platos account he says that it shortly after this great war between the atlantic the product athenians that there was tremendous cataclysm and atlantis sunk beneath the waves he's giving their dated eleven thousand six hundred years ago we now know from the scientific record that
seven thousand six hundred years ago there was a major climate transition and there was a catastrophic warming spike there was associated with a mega scale melt down event of the great ice sheets that were covering northeast it was this event at eleven thousand six hundred essentially jerked the planet out of the the depths of this ice age it it had been in for thousands and thousands of years with that melting you had a rapid rise of sea level so very interesting that the date that he gear it is precisely now the date that the scientists are giving for transition from what's called the younger dry ass i think graham his mansion at its in some of your interviews hamlet the younger driest which was this climates i assume some that ended the last ice age so if we look at the chronology of events
around twenty six thousand years ago we were and the latter phases of what appear two been in interglacial period not too much from from what now around twenty six thousand years ago the climate rapidly degenerated and these men of glaciers had expanded during this they called the final phase or or or the late wisconsin they refer to it because unusually they were looking for this evidence into state of wisconsin so they they named that this last final phase the late wisconsin so on twenty six thousand years ago we see the launching of this fight phase of the ice age the late wisconsin then it around thirteen thousand years ago was the dates are now giving it there was enormous spasm of warming seem to be associated with rapid melting and the first real rapid sea level rise ok
what happened is after a very short interval of time the climate snap back into the full depths of glacial cold now what had happened was to go back ten thousand years ago this was the coldest part of the ice age i mean it was bitterly cold period of time where i live in in georgia was the forests grew there were like the forest you find in canada now you had tundra up in north kentucky in southern idaho tundra in southern southern ohio excuse me was a really really different climate and once you got to northern ohio into northern united states were now sadia chicago the great lakes the dakotas all that was under this mass of ice sheet thousands of feet thick when you grow up into canada over canada the ice sheet was up to two miles thick we think
the two miles thick of ice and reach from the atlantic to the pacific ocean from the northern united states as far south as the forty four parallel always up to the arctic circle now that is a drastically different world bear in mind too that with that much ice piled up on the surface of the land sea levels which can rebate did the water that formed at ice had to go down and it's now well documented that sea levels during the depth of the ice age were at least four hundred feet lower than now which which means that the continental shelves of the planet were basically expose now where i live in george if you go gotten stand right now and a beach like it cumberland ireland which beautiful wilderness preserve you stand there on the beach
some are transported back to the depths of the ice age you'd be in the middle of a boreal forest meaning a northern forest with spruce trees large trees alder trees the kind of trees you find now northern united states canada that area and the boy would have anywhere anywhere so we ve been another fifty seventy five hundred miles further to the east because as the sea level dropped what happens it receives right and so when this final phase of the ice age came on sea let's begin to drop and so what i did exposed all of these shallow marine ecology is that the real all of the continent's to the atmosphere and base we would have caused enormous ecological havoc well then with their noble lady are so they forests head head expanded and had now grown out so now off the east seaboard of the united states they constantly will find the remains of trees dumps
forests that had been growing their fourteen fifteen sixteen thousand years ago now dice to melt sea level begins to rise not simple and to realise that if we look at the way modern civilization has evolved what do we see where did the first city show up don't aren't they mostly trading cities to shop there port cities they show up along the confluence of rivers they shop where rivers meet the oceans they shop under coastlines ok sophie had major cities during the ice age graham has pointed out there now four hundred feet underwater so begin to appreciate when you begin to really look at the history of our planet what you realize is it it's best just almost unaware generally dynamic an alteration from from interlaced to a glacial age is an extreme process and so i guess the upshot of it is that you went when
look now at the the climate record that we have in hand now which has been pretty much reconstructed with a fair amount of accuracy backed about four hundred thousand years and these are primarily based on ice course extracted from greenland extracted from antarctica extracted from mountain glaciers and and most mostly mostly antarctic agreement no when you pull out that ice corps its layered you think think think of cutting down a tree and looking at the annual layers where you can actually counting number of layers any in it crosses generate tree login you'll know how old is right it's very similar in an ice court you ve got layers annual layers cause each year theirs oh that falls it gets compressed into fern if i r which is the transitional phase between and glacial ice and eventually gets compare stinted glacial ice and when you look at a cross section of the ice core you'll see these fine layers and near right so they can
back and take a look at these layers they can count the layers and there's a lot things going on in these layers oxygen isotopes r r a critical one for for ascertaining climate changes because oxygen isotopes are a function of temperature and we have a graph here will pull up in a minute we can actually look at that but what we see is that the climate is constantly oscillate back and forth and when we look at the holocene going back ten thousand years and then we take that comparatively we go back to hundred and fifty two four hundred thousand years we can now began to reconstruct these intervals of god shall periods interglacial and here's the thing that should be sobering too to everybody on the planet today as we think about a change in all of this because obviously its cause we in the news and all the longest interglacial period now on record for at least the law
ass quarter million years the longest one belong unbroken period of interglacial warmth is the policy the one we are in now we ve already exceeded by several millennium the longest previous period of interglacial warmth i don't i'm talking about then i don't hear al gore talking about that i don't hear it talking about dead in mainstream media but it's hard scientific fact we would be shitting our pants way more if it was a global cooling then available global warming let me tell you under we're gonna pull up another graph will pull up a graph and a minute which shows that even within the last couple a thousand years periods of global cooling have not been pleasant times periods of global warming is when we see human population expanding when we cultural advancement when we see lifespans increasing when we see in
mortality decreasing periods of global cooling are when we see populations going into decline when we see lifespan diminishing you know we had a of global cooling that began between five thirty six and five forty eight d it was this period of global cooling that launched but we know dark ages and this has now been well documented by dandridge chronology smike bailey is one of the leaders of this has been looking at the climate change the last couple thousand years has preserved in the tree ring record between five thirty six in about five forty four eighty we find that forest growth in the northern hemisphere almost came to a stop and one of the consequences of was this it was associated with a global cooling and for multiple
years running their agricultural collapses where because the cold and damp the came on with this date the historical record is listing because you read some of these accounts that were preserved from no period they talk about ex at a time where they couldn't see the sun they talk about when it show up it was just a feeble imitation of itself they talk about you know ye years with no summer basically show to head was succession of crop failures that lead to people becoming malnourished one they became malnourished their immune systems became weakened and in five forty to eighty about six years after this well doc into transition occurred we had the onset of justinian plague which wiped out a third the population of europe took three hundred years to recover from that and it didn't we didn't recover from it until the climate shifted again and we went into what is known as the mediaeval warm period
and medieval warm period was the time when the scandinavians were farming on the west coast of greenland were doubts print ellie frozen and for about the next couple of hundred years the climb was according to some researchers in some scientists as much as two degrees warmer than now and you think i've been warmer if if they were farming in greenland where it is now free and ground i've been warmer and one of the things that happened with was with this warming you had an expansion of the growing seas and you also had the the latitude belt at which viable farming agriculture could be proud the shifted three to four hundred miles north of where it had been which method for them time england actually had a flourishing wine industry which we didn't
this previously and it is only existed until recent times because of genetically modified crops is now allowing them to grow grapes they haven't been able to grow wine grapes until we go back to the mediaeval warm period so what have was now there was a lot of food for people to eat right people got healthier human population begin to increase right we to accumulate wealth we begin to to carry on commerce and trade after this three years of dark ages where learning receded into the into the monasteries and life was very unpleasant very short very brutal very unpleasant now had this warming period ok with the girl with the expansion of agriculture and the abundant food supply and the young prolific harvests people we're getting strong healthy again stature and has been well done minted during this two or three hundred
heirs of the mediaeval warming period humans at your actually increased by inches average human size ok by eleven fifty this accumulated wealth that hid ensued from the the benign climate of the medieval warm period is what allowed the m the great cathedral building era too sue which began between eleven thirty and eleven fifty eighty and what we see these magnificent cathedrals have you bend a europe envisaged in any of the coffee put that you're too do less ya get there and look some of these extraordinary works of art that were built during hi gothic or high middle ages between like i said about levin fifty and the early thirteen hundreds they built eighty about eighty of these gigantic magnificent cathedrals that that risk
i the organizing of of thousands of highly highly skilled craftsmen armies of workers and poor afternoon you had stone masons and carpenters and glaziers and astronomers and geometricians and and all of these people brought together to create these incredible cathedrals and it was made possible by the fact that be in society had become relatively wealthy and this wealth was brought on by this global warmth right now what we seek go ahead to the to the beginning to the end of this magnificent gothic building boom in and by the waiters about five hundred smaller abbeys were constructed during this interval this was a very prolific time for number breezes this was a time that dump you had the template its forming you probably heard of that the temper nights i'm sure you had school
of cabal are being founded in spain and in you had the rise of catholic ism you had to ruby doors these amazing spiritual things going on me culturally it was a very extraordinary tine rose high middle ages well a lot of those i think cathedrals were never finished we see is that some of them of the appearance you know i'm a builder by profession and you know it's it's i've did some of these in its very much like is there going building and in all of a sudden one day nobody shows up to work interest tools laying around or still materials that are part pilot were waiting to be buried in the structure and what happened was that the climate begin to cool again between thirteen
fifteen and thirteen twenty precisely when we see the end of this tremendous gothic building boom is when the climate began to cool and a cool for the next several decades and we didn't see is a repeat of what happened between five hundred and thirty six and five hundred and forty two ad agricultural collapses crops rotting in the fields people going hungry between i think what's wrong between one thousand three hundred and forty and one thousand three hundred and forty five the onset of the black plague and once again the relation of europe was decimated and it took a hundred and fifty years basically to recover from that what we see is that what what what was happening shifting into what's called the little ice age will you probably heard that term the little ice age right there was two phases to the little ice age and the first phase begin like centre on thirteen twenty lasted about certain fifty years and ensures a break and it was during the
break that warm period that basically the renaissance kicked in and we begin to really move forward the second phase of the little ice age came and during the sixteen hundreds and it was actually even colder than the first phase and worldwide glaciers expanded to the largest they had been in ten thousand to twelve thousand year since the end of the big ice age throughout the whole holocene glaciers had been smaller now during the big i done little ice age they grew and grew to the biggest that they in ten thousand years it's important to have that context of understanding when we talk about glacier recession because the guy should begin to recede round them the nineteenth century worldwide as the little ice age begin to wane and global warp warmth begin to return to the plan this happened in the mid night the eighteen hundreds round one forty one thousand sixty we see the lid
ice age coming to an end and at that point the gleam worldwide begin to recede they begin to contract they ve been pretty much contracting uniformly since then so when we're talking about glacier recession it's important to understand that glacier recession really began a century and a half ago or more and his bed sickly consider continue more or less uniformly since then with no real change with the advent of of human fossil fuel to the utmost human carbon dioxide which began really in earnest during the second world war is when we begin to add significant amounts of carbon dioxide in the atmosphere it's important to realise that the glacier had been receding almost a full century before that point so when you see all this modern stereo about global warming
the human created global warming that week we can peering about in the news and that our influence on on the atmosphere did does really crazy mean do you think it's silly will obviously human beings are contributing to the carbon footprint rank obviously you obviously in see that has an effect on global warming yes yes but you gotta bear in mind a carbon dioxide is only one variable in a very complex equation right there many factors influencing climate of which carbon dioxide is only one my problem with so much of the the stuff that's coming out in mainstream media which is coming through the intergovernmental panel on climate change is simply that when when they work instituted back an early night is by the united nations the united nations framework convention on climate change basically gave them a mandate which is demonstrate that humans are causing climate change right so
focused exclusively on carbon dioxide but there's all kinds of other things going on for example cosmic rays are constantly bombarding near right cosmic rays produce clouds the more the cosmic rays penetrate the atmosphere the more low altitude cloud cover there is low altitude clouds reflect heat back into space now the amount of cosmic rays penetrating atmosphere is a function of a couple of things you ve got the helio sphere which is that the whole centrally that led the energy envelope of the sun which encompasses the whole solar system the sun actually is fairly variable and what that means is that when the solar wind
is it in more intense phase like when when the sun spots for example are very active the solar wind is is much stronger what that does it serves as a buffer that prevents cosmic rays from penetrating the atmosphere of the earth as as strongly as they did previously also the g magnetic field of the earth acts as a buffer so here's tooth things that are completely not included in the scenarios of the ipcc but probably have a very profound effect on global climate the earth jus magnetic field is you know probably know did you magnetic field has periodically throughout history disappeared completely sometimes it's it's disappeared and come back with reverse polarity will i jus magnetic field acts as a buffer which help to reduce the amount of cosmic rays
trading atmosphere has disappeared completely i dont know and i dont know if really everybody knows i haven't kept up with all of the most recent research ones do magnetism but you know when you ve gone you hold a little compass ingredient in points to north right ok that's the jew magnetic field that's being measured by the compass it's me hoping its fluctuating and for whatever reason throughout the history of the earth it has completely disappeared at some once and his reverse polarity its it was the the reversing polarity of that you magnetic field that helped prove prove the reality continental drift because as the mid atlantic ridge separates and and and all love affair without it crystallizes and locked into the crystal and structure of the of the lava is the direction of the magnet field and the polarity of the magnetic field is imprinted in there if you look at the recent
going back to the nineteen fifties they realise that you had stripes effect effect as you moved away from the meda atlantic ridge as the as the lava flowed out and crystallized locked in the duma feel they looked at it and they could see that there were times when it had completely reversed itself and so this was like some very powerful evidence that that the theory of continental drift was right that did that and leaning ocean had been spreading and in getting back to this whole atlantis thing which is interesting to me is because when you look at at them replay those account he describes atlantis as being west of the pillars of heraclius which of course is the straits of gibraltar the mouth of the mediterranean he describes how you go you come to some islands than you come to some more islands and that was that the
and complex of atlantis and beyond that was another pole continent he describes them right feel it in the middle of the atlantic ocean you ve got the azores plateau which is now couple a thousand feet under the sea the age or islands are the tops of mountains that that emerged from the surface of the ocean right and they sit right on the atlantic the maid atlantic ridge now the mid atlantic ridge some of the thinnest crossed and on the planet right and it's it's like a giant suture or a giant crack that runs up pathway around planet well when you have an ice age you start piling ice up onto like the north american continent one france is the weight of that ice begins to crush the the the crust of the earth down into the mantle it's called
i sought to see which is a vertical movement caught now drift horizontal i sought to see his vertical now just right now you're sitting on that soft chair right in your is creating a depression indication of the chair right that's ice static nip and you didn't realize that did you your ass if his creating ices static depression and when you get up and you walk way then you will have ice static compensation you'll have ice a static rebound because the cushion will now rise because the weight has been removed it's the same thing the ice mass on the continent the ice mass was hundreds of billy of trillions of tons of ice it pressed the center of the north american continent or or the centre of least canada down perhaps as much as several thousand feet
into the mantle with the removal of that ice the land begins to rebound hudson bay is the depression left over from the thick as part of the ice right now photographs we could probably even pull some up here in a minute they're photographs taken where you can see the elevated shoreline surrounding hudson bay because it still rising right watch it sing too as if you look at the the the since between these shorelines you'll see that early on a greater distance because the land was rising faster they millennia have have gone on the distance separating shoreline has diminished but now you have to think that all of that is being transferred into the ocean basins a lot of it was dubbed directly the atlantic ocean either visa the saint lawrence river up there the hudson river up in new york area
via the mississippi river into the gulf of mexico now you go all its water dumping kennedy ocean like i said ocean live we're coming up hundreds of feet right so now you're adding all of this weight to the ocean base and now you got the mid atlantic rage which has some of the finnish crossed on the earth right this is what is doing it's like a hinge line right so now you picture during a glacial age when the weight is taken out it does this lives lives up listening now watching yap winner ice smelled the water goes in sea level rises it subsides right now you look at resource plateau is a chunk of the african plate that got left over when the continent separated around seventy to eighty million years ago right if we use
you ve seen the maps and showing how you can fit the kinds together yeah if you fit these back together if you if you reverse continental drift go back about seventy or eighty million years and it's all fits together like a piece of the puzzle but when it separated a piece of the of the african plate got left behind and this is what is the azores plateau and it said right there astride demanded lane ridge it's maybe a little bit smaller than the mai than iceland which has cost to be an island but of a pretty good sized island right now if you're doing this and you have as much as there were three thousand feet or maybe more of this vertical movement right hand you do that the four hundred feet of sea level rise now you can i think begin to get a scientific rationale for how you may have had allowed which innovative landing during the ice age also
no evidence has suggested that the gulf stream which now basically brings subtropical warmth up to north western europe may if you're too we need the gulf stream england with would have some pretty pretty malignant tie so in north western europe because the warmth being brought up by that gulf stream right we'll during the ice age the gulf stream diverted to the out it about forty five to forty six degrees which was hunt of miles farther south and it now goes so essentially if you look at the azores plateau a big chunk of that resource plateau would have been above ceiling during the ice age and gulf stream with its warmth we're just based we embraced it see so if you suddenly joe found yourself transported mysteriously back to the ice age that probably where you might wanna go is the azores plateau it might have been of one of them
benign places on earth to live during the ice age and if there was a place where civilization could evolve that would a very logical place for it to occur nothing really pseudo scientific now about assuming that there could have been some type of historic reality behind these stories of atlantis of course the problem is the wu wu factor that has gotten so grafted onto these stories but you know crystals and aliens and flying ships and i mean we don't know but you know we don't have any hard evidence but the hard evidence does suggest that there could have been some very benign habit ireland's large islands in the during the ice age so that's intense so incredible it so it's it's it's so crazy to think how
much things have changed while human beings have been here the idea that during go backwards tapie which has twelve thousand years ago that north amerika was covered with ice and they this was when these people in turkey had created incredible structure so when you see this the modern hysteria about global warming which is really essentially been like a wrestling match between the left and the right as is weird were the right ones to support like burning coal and they d don't wanna did diminish the economy by putting all these environmental regulations on natural resources and then the left which is screaming at the top of their lungs that the skies following the oceans are going to rise and people going to drown what and when when you know so much about what is happened over the course of the earth when you ve studied this for a great deal of time like you have what does your
take on all this stuff well i guess my takers is is fairly simple i tend to think that you know if you if you look at the imf the the whole process of if you look at the carbon cycle for what would you see there is interesting whimsical i can talk to this into this is much apostles young have as little variation in the tone is possible thank you you know putting this into context we have to say right now we're approaching four hundred parts per million of the ambient amount of co2 in the atmosphere at the beginning of the industrial revolution it was about a hundred parts per million less it's you can so basically that over the last century we have
greece the amount of co2 measurable co2 into the atmosphere assuming that it's all from us and i mean there there's questions about that too because if there are other factors inducing global warming such as changes in in solar radiance the amount of installation penetrating atmosphere and so on it set the oceans are warming as a result of that ok ocean are a gigantic carbon dioxide sink when their warm they exude carbon oxide when you're cold they absorb right so if you have a natural warming it's gonna expelled some carbon dioxide so it's not even clearer necessarily that that hundred parts per million is totally the result of fossil fuel burning but for the sake of argument let's say that it is ok a hundred per per million that's me kill trace of this very important concern
it's your job our atmosphere you know that carbon dioxide is what feels photosynthesis right and if you reducing the amount of carbon dioxide in the atmosphere new start once you start drop in below two hundred parts per million and you get down to about one fifty two hundred for synthesis plant photosynthesis start shutting down i mean it's gonna take the amount of sea to an atmosphere right now is at the very bottom of the scale you know if we look at history goin back when you mentioned at the cretaceous tertiary when the dinosaurs rule there have been many times more than the amount of sea or to up to well in excess of a thousand parts per million several thousand parts per million in the atmosphere but if we have increased the amount of co2 by one hundred parts per million in a hundred years it means we for every million molecules of air up there we add
one molecule of sea or to every year or two maybe try to make it a little bit more comprehensible if for every hundred thousand molecules of air up there every ten years we one molecule of sea or too i'm not kidding it's that that's going to lead to global catastrophe with this what you got a huge tank with a hundred thousand fish in it every ten years you throw in one more fish are you even going to notice that you know i think that what happened is that she or too like i said is one variable in a very complex equation but all the other variables as far as the the gun funded research goes have been excluded from the debate and what dismays me is that
we are told it all scientists agree on this not all scientists don't agree when you have though a major government funded programme like climate change research which is funded to the tune of about two billion dollars per year europe have a large vested interest in basically many of these guys came out and said now ass you two is really not a big deal it's perhaps feeling plant growth this is an interesting aside if you look at the young the projections of forest in inventory back in the fifties and sixtys based upon deforestation is result of timber as a result of agriculture the projections at at how quickly forest inventories we're going to rebound if you look at those projections back in the fifties and sixty and then you realize it
indian suing period of time we ve now got exam steve highly accurate satellite surveys that can actually count the number of tears of forests what interesting is in the nineties when they really started looking at this date of just how much forest there was compared to what the projections were there was like twenty five to four percent more forests worldwide in anybody had predicted what fuelled this prolific forest growth well it's very likely that at least part of it was because of the slight increase in sea or to israel to resolve as a result of our fossil fuel burning now weep we put in every year we burn about and introduce into the atmosphere about six billion tons of sea or too well about seven hundred and fifty or seven hundred and sixty billion kinds of co2 in the atmosphere naturally and at least
a third of that is cycling through from from atmosphere into the boy your into the oceans and so on so our contribution isn't really that significant but another part of the day the argument is that and this has been admitted right in the ipcc reports is that based on fossil fuel that were burning there should be twice is much co2 into the atmosphere in the atmosphere as were now measuring so what they been talking about for about fifteen is now is where's them in carbon what what's this missing carbon sink but some of its going into the ocean but most actually a lot of it is going into feeling plant growth and forest growth worldwide and there's a lot of studies that are beginning to come out now that shows that perhaps some of the desert areas of the planet rather than expanding are actually contracting so you know it
point there is a lot of things we still have to work when it comes down to understanding the climate where in the infancy you uk talk to a single climatologist and come up with a one single pole answer or agreement on what has actually provoke the planet to go into a full ice age or what has caused it to come out of an ice age if you don't have it i know that we still hell of a lot to learn about how the climate works so i really frustrated and when i hear this claim that a debate is over the debate is over the debate hasn't really even begun yet you say we need to really look at all of these other factors as well i mean when you look at it it way current an ocean currents you have the el southern oscillation you have the the the inn in ocean dipole you have the pacific decade oscillation all of these things very profound influence on the climate but they are essentially being ignored within the with
the government funded science to a large extent and you have a lot of scientists who have objected to some of the claims of certainty made by the ipcc scientists and for the most part the left likes to demonize them this is people like i think probably the the leading demon of climate deniers is fred sayer because he once was given an thousand dollar unsolicited donation exxon years and years ago but you got guys like spencer and crew ensure we did so and robert bawling and timothy ball and and and list goes on and on these are distinguished climate scientists that have devoted their lives to understanding climates science who say well there's a lot of flaws in the methodology of the ipcc by saying that now they have entered the that the span of hell a hook according to the left now in your right
see what happened in its turn into a political football it's an idle on ideological debate it's an ideological debate a political debate and it's just too add at the science of the thing has had the suffering the consequence it is it is fascinating because even hearing you say this a mom i'm thinking like it starts popping triggers like i'm not that person that worries too much about being labelled because i've been labelled a million times already is an idiot it does it doesn't bother me to start contemplating the possibilities of controversial ideas when i'm listening to you saying this all hearing is the knee jerk reaction of climate denier climb it always a climate deny or this guy's a climate denial and seeing these fuckin things that we ve grown too accustomed to on television where you have a guy on the left who has won when a view and a guy on the right who says so and wacky and then every fight about it and
you know then the youtube clips you look at the comments and its fill with this guy's a faggot and that guy's is this guy you eat shit i hope your house goes under water you fuckin climate denying its is when i'm listening to you and me in this package has been overrun our already and its inclusion terribly complex we have barely scratch the surface and you're never going to hear anything like this on any television show because most people feel that the gene general public does not have the attention span to absorb all of this information is really complex explanation of the known science of the changing of the atmosphere of the earth so when peter start talking about club denying and you know what what is going on with climate change what the
we are doing is establishing their position on what side i am on the side of imo rational person who believes in science and education but how much of this have you actually explored how much of it if as anybody actually looked at why i'm a person who supports industry and a person who believes that united states needs to recover from our economic does faster of we gotta frack a few wells you know so be it in others two very distinct and often time shallow ideological perspective and when i say shallow i mean shallow from the point of the general public person like means not a scientist observing it and just picking aside with very little information really i'm you talk to i would like to go grab the average person the average lefty the average righty that thinks it there they have an opinion on global change and just just
my favorite just write down what you know just write down i want you look online do you have opinions i don't want you know do you know large share its most no dogs it's true joe itself ass fascinating it's so near to me because it becomes another one of those things idea energy is a mean i don't remember who said it but it's it's the enemy of free thinking you were you get in these ideological clusters and anything outside of this thing is predetermined patterns of behaviour that used to subscribe to thing becomes forbidden rumsey you you can't even entertain it you can't even approach the idea you with everything you see with eighty ism you see it with you see it with any comes with feminism with the men's rights you see it with we put people whose drive to the right people subscribed to let any very
your balls they don't fit into their equation that they ve already subscribe to they don't want to be labelled as that other side and each time they don't wanna be labelled they start ignoring any evidence or any ideas that don't fit within this really rigid description actually right i mean it is you you hit the nail on the head and clear exactly right we're here we people get locked into these ideological paradigms in and from that point and basically their perspective as modified more by emotion and rationale is more by you know their feelings rather than real information and in its too bad i mean i know to blame it on maybe the fact that dumb it runs all the schools i don't know you know the government monopolizes education systems that are not teaching people critical thing skills they're not teaching people how to actually become
be scientifically later it which is really sad but you know what it's it's like that you know you you'd we keep hearing climate change denier right well there's no such thing i don't think you're gonna find a single climate scientists of any persuasion that denies that the climate is changing and you got to realise that the determined energy has shifted it was global warming originally went when james hansen gave his testimony before congress in the summer of nineteen eighty eight you know and propose these potential tipping points and catastrophic outcomes of our burning far oh field gone from there to the united nations getting involved in the united nations setting up the whole of the ipcc and channeling all of this funding to it and dumb that idea the consequences is dead you know when you say again gives me
we went from global warming to climate change do they not really use global warming is a is a term anymore is mainly because for fifteen years the average global temperatures flat lined and this is upon you know the most accurate like at surveys ipcc generally focuses only on ground based sensors which are subjected to old perhaps so considerable bias because you know your picture on sensors most of our sitting at airports when using for being put in post world or to the bulk of em for in fifties into the sixties many these airport were they were the origin two small towns they were surrounded by fields and farms forests what's happen is the urban area has encroached you know every when you when you create street pavement buildings all of this absorbs heat right and no one has really done and
lost a study of the potential bias introduced into the and base answers that part at least the warming of ground based sensors may have nothing with carbon dioxide at all it may just have to do with the fact that their sit next to a huge parking lot you see and i mean you know yourself if you walk out you're walking in a field in you walk onto up asphalt parking lot immediately its it's much much harder is a anthony there is another wanted it don't they did dissenters whose demonized the only one who has really attempted to exhaust delete document the accuracy of the ground based sensors and what has come up with is that perhaps much as is thirty to fifty percent of the perceived warming of the last century which isn't bout eighteen some degree centigrade this problem
finally as a result of that bias centre been introduced by what's called the urban heat island effect all of the major she delay has a urban heat island mitigation programme under way all the major metropolitan cities are now trying to mitigate the effects of this heat because of all of that manton to buildings and the pavement and parking lots they're always hotter than the surrounding rural areas so the quest has been legitimately raised how much a bias has been introduced into the into the ground sensors well when we turn to them the balloon sensors read the radio sound balloon sensors and satellite sensors basin we what their showing is that the average global temperatures meant flash for fifteen years well because of that and in many of the key
scientists like phil jones of the ipcc is basically publicly admitted gather when you look at the ever temperature from that perspective it hasn't warmed and fifty now there are regional pockets of of warming and records being sacked all the time because law conditions will effect change enormously just like i was talking about the urban heat island effect is is a local or regional condition but because of the fact that the climate hasn't warmed statistically significantly in fifteen years now we don't knocked about global warming we talk about climate change but those terms are not interchangeable global warming is a very specific model of climate change which is that you ve got this fifteen micron wavelengths of of co2 in the atmosphere that
wrapping infra red radiation emanating from the earth right in ok but if you're talking about climate change now suddenly you know are umbrella much much huge or any in it now this is all these other things that i was talking about an end to question the since this idea to consent to question that sea or tuesday prime we or soul driver of climate is not to be climate change denier sea because no i would challenge anybody even uses that terminal show me an example of any climate scientists no matter where they fall in the argument is denying that the climate is changing mean anybody who has studied the climate all knows that it is changed drama ethically dynamically on scale you can look at whether the deck the scale centennial or millennial or beyond it changes on every level and that's the thing we have to recognise that if we
stop burning fossil fuels tomorrow we didn't dr another car we didn't we shut down all the coal plants i tell you this decline would not stop changing when you see a story like here's one it's in the news about u s senator marco rubio denial of man made climate change should play with his tea party base who support hill if he indeed runs for president in two thousand sixteen but in take this position floor junior republican centre ignores the vast majority of the world's climate scientists who said human activity is contributing to climate change and rising sea levels human activity is contributing to climate change no doubt there's no out that human activity contributes to climate change human activity and is one variable in a very complex equation i wish mark marco rubio wade
his mouth shut until he goes and spends about six months or a year really doing homework because any could tell a little bit more intelligently about it but that is problem right really does take thou long it does like you i know you i've wanted me you six seven years ago somethin like that and you had already spent decades observe the effects of climate change and of asteroid olympics in here three of these things mean the amount of time just absorbing the information secret rattled off like this in a podcast me got you into this like that how did you get down this rabbit all we're missing rabbit whole right rabbit all its fascinating rabbit whole i'm so thankful not only that you ve got down but that you're willing to exchange this information with us or imparted honest because it's it's
very different perspective because i know you're not a right wing lunatic you're very science based guy but you you're looking at this in the way you explain it is incredibly rational and in credit frustrating to me that not that many people that the third that are saying this while the upside i think of the whole global warming issue or the climate change issue is this that if you know the thing is i made the point even if we stopped all fossil fuel consumption tomorrow the climate is still going to change in its going to change dramatically it's gonna change sometimes when catastrophically to do from here on out is basically think about strategies of adaptability if as a result of this whole issue even even though i think it's miss based miss misapply
if part of that comes out of this is that we begin to develop strategies of adaptability that would be a good thing if however we focus so exclusively on carbon dioxide to the exclusion of everything else that could be a bad thing because the climate is going to change no matter what we do or where we go with it the climate is going to change i should put up solar power panels into the cows come home to the house is there on the beach in malibu are still be underwater and hundred years well not necessarily norms early so by real estate well see the thing is if you look at the i mentioned earlier that there was a break in the in the little ice age of about two hundred and fifty years that that basically led to the renaissance right we ve been in a plenary session of the little ice age a any interruption of the little ice age for about a hundred and fifty years and right now
you know and again the ipcc one of the things that frustrates me is that they basically exclude solar physicists and solar scientists who are simply saying that insulation levels insulation the amount of solar energy the trading the atmosphere one of the lowest levels in in thanks tens of years and i mean you're our soldiers physicists that are saying you know what we could be at the beginning of another phase of the little ice age now if our seo to it helping new ameliorate somewhat a returned a little eliza it that would be a good thing so much cars are green that's it i'm gettin call and muscle cars are good for the forest well dick property the price with coal is not so much the sea or too is is to me it's just the particulate matter right you know that different question altogether pollution the pollution which is horrific in china when the coal plants is you see these people that are essentially
walking he looks like there in the middle of a forest fire there walking those jonas is dark everywhere that's a different issue rhino and in an i consider myself a conservationist in the respect that we basically need examples of on pristine nature because ultimately nature is the most powerful teacher and we need example renewed places where nature just left alone to do it's thing without interference of human beings we need clean air nobody has the right to dump shit knee air that other people have to breathe nobody has the right to dump shit no that other people have to drink to me those are different question and really where are the more of our focus should be read then these abstractions i have found course i've got some flat over the last few years by saying some of the things i ve been saying here you know that i've heard people stand up
cures maybe you just you say we can just do anything we want we can just destroy the earth which of course is not there i am not saying that i am not saying that at all in it when we begin to look at the bigger context of this thing and we begin understand that the extraordinary changes that this planet is banned through and even to some of the lesser things in recent years mount saint helena remember one at erupted in nineteen eighty tens of thousands of acres were turned into a lunar landscape right well if you read the ox of the scientists the biologists zoologists the ecologists that had been studying what happened that decimated landscape in the aftermath to find out is there prize and almost shock it how quickly nature recovered from that and how quick lee you know colonizers plants moved in and was
followed by a whole the whole succession ecological six succession of reclaiming that land if you look at the the son valdez disaster up enough alaska in alaskan in that was over short term devastating to the local ecology and yet what's interesting again i've been several books written by some of the lead scientists involved in that time about how remarkably quick nature begin to to reclaim and and recover from and here's some irony where the government first exxon to go and do its clean up his actually suffered more than the areas that were just left alone for nature reclaimed that's fastening so the chemicals used in order to break up the area that was what the issue with the gulf as well right with that those in this since they worse sprang over the area they probably should
just left the gulf alone because you know when you have a submarine earthquakes they can expel huge amounts of hydrocarbons into the ocean nature has been dealing with a mass of expulsions of hydrocarbon in the oceans and into the marine ecology for for millions and millions of years you know i was bad but i think you know what we see is that dumb the recovery times been consumed faster than most people believed possible you say i think what's really gonna turn out in the end looking at all this is that natures robust and when we begin to look at the number of times nature has been disrupted by we ve been talking about asteroids and comets and here's pierce perspective for you you know at the peak of the cold war when you s in the soviet union where i bald eyeball with our nuclear
happens on hi alert and we had we ten thousand weapons on our side they had ten thousand weapons on their side the tone nuclear arsenal at the times had about eight in two thousand megatons of of energy capable of being delivered eighteen thousand megatons not i means ten million tonnes of tea anti the bomb net stride hiroshima was about thousand tonnes of tea anti so high good times a hundred hiroshima bombs would be one megaton right now there about say fifteen eighteen thousand megatons total in the arsenal of the superpowers during the height of the cold war had we unleashed an all out nuclear war and fired every war here that we had in our arsenals at each other
ten thousand warheads you know i mean twenty thousand warheads fifteen thousand megatons it have been an environmental disaster unprecedented in history you remember the scenarios about nuclear winter right because of all the fires and the soot interpret he killed matter thrown into the atmosphere it could literally bring armenia ice age right and began probably cause without even the radiation cause age or collapse of the human population right get this number you heard fifteen thousand megatons ok now even a small asteroid impact or let's say save ii the asteroid impact that that struck the yucatan theirs a simple formula that you can use when you look at the crater size you take size of the crater and raise it in expressed in kilometers raise it the power of three point four and malta the result by two point four and wanted
to give you as the energy yielding mega tons of that jack striking if put in two hundred and eighty kilometers into this calculator here which is a d amateur of thee yucatan crater and i raise it to the three point four power and then i multiply that by the two point four power i get the the mega ton yield all right that number comes up to be three one hundred and eleven million megatons i divide that by fifteen thousand basically what we have there is about equivalent to the entire nuclear arsenal of the superpowers eight thousand times over eight thousand times over now what kind of environmental conscience whence would there be to that while we saw that global fire storms you know did this
the studies of the amount of certain that boundary layer shows that the amount of biomass that went up in your storms at the katy boundary was about equivalent to every plant on earth today going up in fire right you have to now that were perhaps a thousand feet in height you had global earth wakes probably measured tend to eleven under richter scale and you know the richter scale works its logarithmic so that an eight point oh quick is ten times more powerful than a seven point now nine point always ten times more powerful than a point of order in point of earthquake is going to be unimaginable the whole framework of the globe would have shaken you probably would have massive failures on every fault line on the planet now the katy and was the middle of the five great extinction of ants right there or division salary and there was the permian triassic there was a couple more
two of them are more extreme than that now even even much smaller than that right you know that when they talk about a tipping point you nor are we marking about a tipping point that could trigger a claim change a disastrous catastrophic climate change is being a few parts me billion more of sea or to or is a tip point really a mile wide asteroids slamming into the earth at a hundred times the speed of a rifle bullet that could be a tipping point for an that happened thousands of times and hundreds of times since we humans have been here hundreds of times hundreds of times and one was the most recent one that was the holocene crater well probably there there is evidence emerging now that the collapse of the late bronze age civilizations around four thousand two hundred years ago may have been precipitated by a series of impacts there's evidence emerging that decline
down turn it occurred between five thirty six and five forty idea that i talked about earlier may have and triggered by a series of multiple impacts one that looks like it occurred off the coast of norway and another one that looks like it occurred off the coast of new zealand like tandem impacts right around five thirty six eighty and we're basically faced with the idea now that literally him acts from things from space may be hundreds of times more like than anybody was even imagining you know ago so we're essentially this civilization that is banking on the knowledge that we have accumulated over a very small amount of time and as were uncovering more more evidence more more information starting to realise our ignorance restarted
realize how little we know about our own history the history of this particular species and how its interacted in this crazy volatile environment of earth and how many times been hit by rocks and see you know a hundred years ago the assumption was one of these these images are these craters impacts yeah that's dead actually ten years old but it shows now all the identified impacts and then i was ten years old so since then some new ones of thousand dozens more yeah and since then has been discovery of this nuclear glass that they found all over europe in all over asia i think referring to the possibly the thing that dumb graham was talking about the the third thousand year ago event i think i think that's it is what i am referring to is there was a mainstream report about all these these pieces of this
very similar material to what they find it nuclear blast yes and that there was all over the place at when they did the core samples around twelve thousand years yes the nets actually what graham star him in and yes it is the patents is getting stronger and stronger each year that there there may have been a multiple impact event the terminated the ice age and this still a very controversial idea because the gradualist just don't want to go there and this is probably would killed off me extinction of the bully mammoth mass extinction of the sabre too tight yes and a series of animals that they really have figured out why like there's there's been all sorts of theories but why the woolly mammoth went extinct in some of them are ridiculous like that people did it my dear you say that that's ridiculous idea was ridiculous when you think about what kind of people around twelve thousand years ago what kind of weapons they had and what a fuckin mammoth looks like jesus
christ how many of a more and the other thing that's ridiculous about am obviously when i say ridiculous i'm ridiculous i shouldn't even be making that statement done very little but the research that i've read and the people that question that have talked about mass graves where they found the the animals that have died instantaneously fowls of them and not consumed either they dont show signs of predation or of butchering there they ve there they ve die in full form full body yes said molly of mass a massive graveyards in in for centuries pristine ma am tough ivory have been hauled out of the permafrost of siberia train load lots you know and this has gone into the global ivory market literally for three or four hundred years so estimates are that there may have been as managers for to ten million woolly mammoths worldwide mama
people don't realize right here north america there were three species of provo city and her three species of elephants during the ice age africa has one species indian india has another species we had we species here during the time would go back the tapie was being yes during that time events in elephant here's another perspective one that they found what is that this is the barrow solved a mammoth it was found in nineteen o one quick frozen yeah with flesh now at the time this photograph which taken wolves had eaten the flash offer the skull that's why it's it's it's bear but what you see there immediately dirty wolves yeah million year old meet discussing
probably thirteen thousand year old me tom we so that's a little not quite as bad as million girls regards including yourself but you can see the the the mammoth left forelimb just in front of his knees there you see how its and if in if jamie toggles back and forth between this image and the next one you be able to see ya this was how the woolly mammoth was found answer they took photos of it when it was found like this and then they left it alone in the wars cayman got it this is this is a reconstruction i believe in the land leningrad museum so what they did was took the remains of the woolly mammoth an intact said aramis came in and reconstructed but this shows the position in which he was found sitting on his haunches like that and time that the woolly mammoth met demise he was eating flowering plants right now it's important keep that in mind his stomach was full of
bout two dozen different varieties of plants and sages and things that he had been munching on up in siberia at the time that he did he met his death number of interesting things the contents of his stomach had not putrefied right now that's monsieur is the fact that his his flesh was still edible these by wolves you know that the stories about us it is eating mammoth burgers is probably made up but the wool definitely were able to eat the flash right it was discussed it is still being marbled almost as if it had just been frozen you know a week ago but since the time that the woolly mammoth died it had its whole carcass nurse was a six tonnes woolly mammoth so and frozen for thousands and thousands of years and so thoroughly frozen that the car tints of the stomach could not petrified now
a woolly mammoth of six tonnes has a lot of internal heat right clarence bird's eye that they the founder of birds i feel foods and the inventor of the fast freezing of food for preservation got involved in examining and in speculating about this woolly mammoth his conclusion basically they do something like this i ordered than the contents of the stomach from future the entire carcass of the woolly mammoth would have had to be frozen through and through and ten hours or less now bear mind at this wally mammoth was eating flowering plants right now how cold would it have to be to freeze a six tonnes woolly mammoth in ten hours or less his estimate probably somewhere around two hundred and fifty degrees below zero so
from flowering plants to a hundred and fifty degrees below zero in ten hours in ten hours hot what what kind something well there's been some speculation the speculation that i found most interesting was possibly v can't gases that had been rejected up into the stratosphere approached absolute zero and because of the cold fell backer think you can get the same effect perhaps with gas is released from disintegrating comet nucleus it's still a mystery i mean anything it anybody says that this point is purely speculative however it here that whatever this mammoth underwent was as stressed in the extreme you saw him sitting there on his haunches right both of his hip bones were broken which means that he was slam back onto his haunches very violently
it was also found within erect penis which me instead he died by vacation which meant that he was entombed virtually secondly by the material that later became the permafrost we're but the little ice age earlier and i was talking about how the little ice age ended around eighteen fifty well this i was found about nineteen o one after the climate siberia had been warming somewhat see and what and was part of a slip a cliff that had been next bear a soft river the bare solved river had shifted its channel and eroded some of the key face back and in one year one warm spring there was a collapse of the cliff they stood exposed this mammoth to the atmosphere and at tat point does when the walls came in and begin to devour the flesh on the on the skull see so clearly this morley mammoth is an example of or indicative of some type of a
where there was a global catastrophe or local catastrophe nobody knows but clear it was catastrophic but that only me but there's only one of dozens of examples of flight frozen lake pleistocene mammals died under similar circumstances and these large graveyards of mass extinctions of thousand and thousands of animals what are the best examples of them because i know that i have seen some of them online but i can't pull the mob like i'm sure you can i've got some very clear if i can get my laptop to pull jamie pull up look towards the bottom of the list list you'll see pleistocene don't lost world the place the scene you see that no it's a it's a powerpoint it's in the list of the power points that i gave you have some some years a riddle me out i just wanna tell you right now you're freaking me out
i give freaked out pretty easily regularly out there i rose in man and i have to confess that one of my objection in coming here was to try to free you have put to death well you did it congratulations you're successful i've been terrified of yellowstone for four years now watch some late night documentary was a huge mistake those things i was about to go to bed and i just flip through the channels and they were going over this thing about called there a volcano in yellowstone what the fuck's caldeira and they started talking about oh it's what it was something like six hundred kilometers wider some crazy like that which is so three hundred miles they were saying that they didn't even discover it until they started doing satellite imagery of of earth and then they realise that oh this was a giant volcano that was so violent in its irruption than it blew the mountain off of it and it became this massive crater and then it happened
every six eight hundred thousand years ago last time it happened was six thirty thousand years ago so hopefully keep our fingers crossed we got another hundred thousand year if we're lucky yeah but see that's another aspect of this component the dynamic history of planet earth is these gigantic volcanic eruptions there's been interesting work linking asteroid impacts with giant volcanic irruptions as well in a wood they would make sense that dumb that that the energy injected into the earth by a major impact could trigger volcanic eruptions we know that during the great melt down event of eleven to twitter ten thousand years ago that there were enormous massive volcanic eruptions and jane hellenes for example was was massively erupting at that time and i have photographed i
for some photographs right here i don't know much time we have to look at some of this but where i have gone out now found thick layers of white kanak ash from mount saint helena sandwiched in between these floods layers and in it it shows it in it undoubtedly head have been a response to the fact that you this enormous mass transfer of weight that we're about earlier from the continent's back to the ocean and when we go through it maybe it's time to go through a few of these images that i brought you can begin to see some of the consequences of this melting and you begin to appreciate it yeah there these enormous mass transfers of weight unloading in certain areas loading and other areas this clearly have a profound effect on the subterranean stability and easily lead to major eruptions and there was a spasm of major volcano
irruptions globally at the time of the the transition out of the ice age which would only have added to the havoc of there position and why you know half of the year species of mega fauna disappeared megaphone is basically defined as any any animal in this case mostly mammals over forty four kilograms and body weight which is about hundred pounds rachel include us and if you see thinking about all of the animals globally world there are more than a hundred pounds depending on how you divide up the species there might be a hundred to twenty eight hundred and thirty different species and i'm talking about the lions and tigers and bears and elephants in rhinos hippos and moose in cariboo and doctors right down the line right ok go back to the ice age the station the loss of species at the end of the last ice age was about violent in number the lost
of species of mega mammals was about equivalent in number the number of species of mega mammals that still exist so in other words these events the terminated the ice age basically decimated have the species of of mega mammals on earth half of this year she's disappeared if you are going to try to effect an equivalent mass extinction of species today you'd basis we have to eliminate every animal on earth over a hundred pounds in body weight in order took to get the equivalent of mass extinction episode of of twelve thousand thirteen thousand years that's insane it's insane but it's absolutely the truth i what is the official like our main stream explanation for this doesn't exist ok you brought the idea of of its called overkill which has been the dominant theory for four decades which is that here when hunters external did the woolly mammoth
some vague way the extermination of the woolly mammoth being at the top of the food chain somehow had a ripple effect down you know through the ranks of species and somehow perhaps in an hour rest way did any loss of all these other species but they just don't address that in the you said that is ridiculous and that's an understatement i mean you're talking about perhaps by and of few hundred or maybe even a thousand individuals mike bans human hunters coming and somehow able she's got to bear in mind that the estimates of human population during this time globally is less than the estimates of the publication of all a mammoth but somehow orient sisters were were able to wipe out for me ten million willie mammoths so fast that they couldn't
and reproduce so there was only like ten million people back then that's while see that's based upon more or less the conventional interpretation now course what we ve been talking about implies opens the door to their possibility of there being a lot more people and the massive diction also including a massive amount of human beings is well yeah in an some interesting evidence emerging now that there perhaps was a population collapse between what is the clovis culture and the false and culture the cloudless sure appears in north america to be what is believe too many early earliest culture and the there's a site new mexico there was the first discovery the association of human the facts meaning spear ancient arrow heads and things like that along with extinct mammals this is clovis new mexico it's very interesting site i visited there about six or seven years ago in order because i was looking for this so called black man lay
which has now been documented in dozens of clovis sites around north american the black man layer is this unique layer that they are essentially separates them seen from the policy and its of search it's full of a radio nato diamonds microsoft year olds in all of these signature things then decorative up some kind of a cosmic event this image indicative of that is that with this is that that's kind of a blurry image but right there last appeared to see face a microphone down ok yeah the white strip the middle shows the black math layer that's exactly yet and what you see below it are the bones of it pink mammals and what you see a thousand years later his bones of extent mammals and nowhere above that black matt layer do you find them
of the extinct mammals whereas extent means dead there's no still still exist took her you know we're bears are expand you know that's only mammoths our extinct so there's a varied stink line that can be attributed to some sort of an event yes some sort renovate something before that they're all alive something after that they're all dead they're all dead ass if amount of the larger mammals gone go wiped off the face of plant wiped off the face the planet north america lost about seventy five percent of its speed of mega ma am holy shit three quarters yeah there week there we go there some of em i learned is that thing below that thing below what is that fuckin thing that guy ground slot i fucking thing is the megatherium american amidst the giant ground slot it was the size of an elephant like these are the glib to dance these are all ten thousand years ago not this guy
there's a dinosaurs day norris maximus is the giant moa this throw me here for office because he's just such an awesome producer the terror bird rights the terror bird youngest grow back up that's going to look at that fuckin bird seven foot tall bigger now with eight nine for tall yeah a bird that doesn't flies essentially a murderous austria should this was the top of the food chain during biasing real yeah this this was the the that baddest ass predator on the planet for awhile really yup more so than a sabre to tiger these guys existed before the sabre tooth tiger but they succumbed to one of these global events you gotta bear in mind if you take a census of all the species that ever existed compare to the species now it's servitude to say that ninety nine point nine percent of all species have become extinct while and in the ones that
and of most of those head went extinct without any help humans at all stopped grown what is ethically thing that's a lie material siberia com jesus christ you begin to appreciate cycle bulls that fact arena is put its here why that's it's insane how big down oh huge i mean it was concise basically wally right ass for the size of an elephant and it's a seal i dont which is the classic willie renounces and there have been quite a few species of these guys found that we're flat frozen and this is twelve thousand years ago this thing existed woolly rhinoceros yes and waiting north america jesus christ that's incredible and what is what's the mainstream explanation for these things going away block i'm trying to find one i have looked there is not there is nothing they don't there's nothing so is this something that they just have
formed any theories about or they don't try to or it's been ignored because it's not enough information it's been ignored and here's why at the dawn of assign geological science and early nineteenth century to a man every one of the founding fathers of geology weather william back lender cuvier you're sure james ha lore or rod murchison adam sedgwick you could go right down the line all of these guys from eighteen twenty up to about eighteen sixty every one of them was a catastrophe to a man everyone because these were guys basically who had not and into any particular interpretation of world history they went out and they looked at evidence in the landscape in there inclusion was is something really catastrophic has happened and then what happened as you had charles play fair and hot james hot needs three guys came along and basic
we established the doctrine of uniform terry is it's called a mouthful and basically the idea of uniform materialism was this is if we look at modern processes to explain that process so if we see a river eroding bag moving sediment creating a sand bar with that if we see like during the early nineteenth century where in the last phase of the little ice age so glaciers were receding and these guys could safely got there look i'm a year to year basis and see what was happening as the glaciers were receding right so basically what they they indeed was extrapolated for modern processes to try to explain all the ancient processes this is the guy of uniform materialism ok it's a powerful model for understanding ancient change however it became ensconced as dogma so that by the turn of the century as we come right up to the to the threshold
the twentieth century it would now considered unscientific to try to explain anything in the past that we couldn't happening today right so as we go into the twentieth century this gradual dog became in instead academia and every geologist from boston one hundred up to about nineteen eighty was thoroughly indoctrinated into this idea of you gradualism that all of this change that we see going on on the planet today has occurred one grain of sand wonder of water at a time we consider to be very unscientific too and to invoke things because initially some of the founding fathers of geology we're lot of them interesting or were theologians who often notes
number mike adam sedgwick as a good example of somebody who is a traveling theologian travelling minister right he was travelling around england and he was seeing things like the teams river valley and he would say the thames flowed in it gigantic channel that was completely outside relic if to the river that was flowing in it and he says must have been from a huge flood while he was away large and right so he said noah flood right well as it turns out there are enormous jus morphing effects of gigantic floods all over the planet right we know that now right in the hundreds they assumed that if you saw effects of gigantic floods it had been noah's flood well at the same time it you had geology gradual is among the ascent geo abide
logical gradualism came along in a form of of darwinism and a too short complementing each other in in and mutually supportive each other well if we ve got infinite tie millions and millions of of of years of gradual geological change now that allows millions and millions of years for gradual biological change and these new paradigms were mutually reinforcing so now we come to the twentieth century and for the first three quarters of the twentieth century that was the i that was indoctrinated into the minds of every earth scientists right and to vary from that was to be pseudo scientific and you're trying to revert back to biblical fundamentalism if you start talking about giant floods right what happened was and you know it to people like a manual valla caskey it was not an earth scientists he was a psycho analysed and he wrote several books in the mid nineties fifties where he had gathered
together in one place all of this anomalous evidence from the earth history that did not fit uniform tyrian paradigm now his books were popular successes but mainstream science just slammed m slammed this guy's a nut case right well he did make some serious missteps in trying to explain this anomalous geological evidence for catastrophe his nose missteps that they were able to focus on to try to discredit here however the amassing of evidence for catastrophes in earth history has held this that the test of time and in what we see is not what nineteen eighty was a pivotal year that was a year that three separate teams published evidence showing that cretaceous tertiary boundary the dinosaur boundary was profound catastrophic and at opened the door or to begin a reconsideration of earth history now
the same time with the advent of the space programme we are beginning to realise that near space is not a completely empty place it's actually densely populated by all kinds of things see prior the apollo moon programme it was believed that most to the craters on the moon if not all of the creators undermine we're volcanic right most apollo the realisation was is no they're not volcanic their impacts of things from space see now the surface of the moon and i think i am the last image on the joe rogan images there is going to be a picture of the moon and you'll see its littered littered i wonder and thousands and thousands of trade and because it doesn't have an atmosphere because it doesnt have plants we can actually see we actually it's happened in the point joe is this we were unable to strip away the biosphere
thick layers of sedimentary rocks the oceans the earth would look like the moon it would look like king movement so it simply a matter of time in perspective that we really welcome thank thankfully this people like you that are paying attention to us but we with the amount of time the people have been videotaping things and writing books is tiny little window it just has and been enough time to really get a real account of how often is its place because that amount of time although it's a grand amount of time compared to our lives the life of an individual for the life of the plan it's nothing it's a perspective issue it's a perspective exactly exactly and this is one reason why i am an advocate for moving forward and essentially becoming a cosmic civilization you see
i came of age during the haiti of the mercury in germany gemini apollo programmes and that was the one thing when i looked back and i go we'll what one of the last time that i was really proud of my country was when we those man on the moon you know when we planted our american flag on the moon and i really believe back in nineteen sixty nine nineteen seventy that we were america's ask any wish to move the human species into this grandeur cosmic environment nicole you know the vietnam war came along and other priority ease and money got shifted nixon administration shifted huge amounts of money away from the space programme the time too well it was set out there we were going a permanent lunar by the end of the seventies for man mission to mars before the eightys was over perhaps independently self supporting colonies in space by the year two thousand marrow a junior in high school when cuba
two thousand and one a space odyssey came out have you ever seen it sure yeah nineteen sixty eight nobody had any it was no stretch of the imagination or surrounded by two thousand and one year there we're gonna be orbiting hotels in space right that could have happened but we asked our vision we lost our will and just got sidetracked uniting remember in the seventies talking to people about the potential of colonizing space using materials and resources founded space and the dead the needs response i always got was well we ve got to many problems here on earth we got to solve those problems first well my response to that was well good luck you could hear basically talking about altering human nature right and it's going something more than just some policy alter human nature what it's gonna take is some serious consciousness excursions perhaps be
going to space you know we had these astronauts i met edgar mutual years ago he's a maze he came to my large years ago edgar mitchell who was one of the act she was one of the many astronauts the waning dismayed and like us and freemason as in freemasons everybody freaks out any say freemason i know illuminati more nonsense and we should have a whole session just to deal with ridiculous nonsense next time you think me out about that ok let your mitchell when you madam it was you talkin about aliens now know about ireland no he was talking about going into space and seen god well easier than aliens crazier than aliens here god made aliens perhaps so he saw god in the sense tat he got a sense it well even thank god he got a sense of the word to the ground mr graham universe yes and in the us in and you know it
potential role of humans in that i have you ever been to the czech observatory in y know i haven't the cap one of the most intense experiences with consciousness expanding experiences i've ever had i believe it without drugs it i mean it's like a site you actually drive through the clouds i took my family several years ago and we were bombed out i got so cloudy when other middle see anything but then you pop through the clouds can you drive and view is magnificent and it is to this day one of the most intense experiences cod agnes expanding experiences i've ever had i believe it without drugs you know me like a psychedelic experience really was because the amount of that's the czech observatory whose house above the clouds and when you that's a daytime shot at sea jamie saving a pull up a knife tat nighttime shod because you know they set the camera aperture to capture the i didn't i had a regular camera couldn't i couldn't really capture the
the actual stars themselves but you see the milky way like not like tat way more intense than the you see the milky way in its full form you see all idea and hear so many stars it's it's so shocking you're immediately forced to accept the reality that weren't space whereas it so easy deny when i see the moon a couple little dots like ever madame in hollywood i go to work and you drive you get up that's what it's like and it so it's it's in that's just a photograph and that's you know obviously distant doctoring going oxide what those lines are but it's insane how intense it is it's insane and it's it's or its right above you they asked the bright above us all the time that's what i love about the high desert plateaus you ve got his dry atmosphere in its like glitter you can almost reach out and touched the stars your retirement
you ve never been no allay before this is universe tripped ella because when you're in california he just go the mojave instead its base while i stared space and stare at the rocks the rocks below my feet and stars or my idea you get involved in the exploration of all this stuff well you know i guess i'd better times out of the closet like i did little to finish drugs back sixty i think you did the right amount down to think you're being hard on you to actually actually in ninety sixty nine of course i wish i was raised in rural minnesota and where we go we lived on the shores of a puddle meltwater puddle left over from the receding the glaciers yacht cod puddles i call partly with three quarters of a mile law you it's just you know minnesota wisconsin's get what twenty five thousand lakes and every one of them is left over me water puddles from the recession of the glacier saw
i can still remember being like six or seven years old and my dad telling me you know once upon a time this was thousands of feet under the ice and that's all we had land on the edge of this lake and dumb is a kid i used to sit my backyard and fish for you know son patient crop ease and bullheads that's what i don't understand interrupt you sir for just one second how the fuck does that happen where ten thousand years ago it's a glacier ten dollars years later there's fish in their where the fuck a fish going from i don't know but they were there but how it wears a large mouth ass come from which the all this the lake trout in the great lakes where the fuck come from if if ten thousand years ago that was frozen solid frozen solid where the fuck delaying trout come from get to work on a joke because i don't know the answer i need to know man i'm out have on northern pike
i mean northern tie you gotta saskatchewan p a fly in from all over the world to go fishing up there because they have this massive population a beautiful northern height these be that was froze in the us mine was a mile of ice what the fuck ban i'm freaking out that doesn't make sense you saw this so you were a kid i was a kid growing up with landscapes i got fascinated by but in nineteen sixty nine i went to a rock and outdoor rock cancer there was at an airport called eating pizza harry that's any just outside the twin cities minneapolis it's on a series of bluffs that overlooks the minnesota river valley right and i'm curzon stone out of my gourd and i was taking a break from the third the music and the ladys in everything and i went over standing on this bluff and in jamie if you would pull up
it's near the end of the pictures i brought for joe i have a beautiful example of scale in variants in this gonna be similar to what i saw and when you see it that's that's like that twenty five images that's labelled for joe it'll be towards the end its a picture of the snake river find it snake river wait till you see this joe now this is an example of scale in variants now what that means is that you know in here we go now look at this what you see here working folks they're just listening to this go in these images is there are they on your website i think this one is on my website ok guy this one's on my list nay river you see the snake river scale and variants meaning that the river at the bottom obviously you see the lines all around it where it indicates that there was a much much larger body of water one point much better this the modern
make rivers about fifty thousand cubic feet per second at the end of the last ice age the river here was about third two forty million cubic feet per sec so was that because of the melting glaciers the force of the essence of this particular rose not directly fed by the melting glaciers it was the result of the catastrophic overflow of lake bonneville which was the result of my massive prolonged torrential rainfall that the distance drowned all the deserts of the other than the western and south western united states in there in overflow a spill way out of the lake bonneville basin in northern utah spilled over into the snake river plain of idaho thirty two forty million cubic feet per second cut this channel you'll notice that the matter snake river occupies a small channel within the big channel
scale in variants the big river would have been about equivalent to six to seven hundred of the mai snake rivers and what you're seeing here is an example of scale in variants see the little is super posed upon this big say now in sixty nine i standing on a bluff looking to minnesota river valley similar to this right looking down at the minnesota ribbon of the minnesota river and seeing it in his huge trail and i had on our ha moment i had an aha moment and i realized i saw then that this channel this block i were standing on had once been the bank of a gigantic river thousands of times bigger than the modern minnesota river but i didn't
no it rationally in the sense that it took me another ten or fifteen years of study and research before i could go back and say yeah what my initial instinct looking out and seeing this matching set of bluffs for five miles on the other side and seeing them small version of it in the modern river that i was right that i remember one time and eightys i was giving a talk on that and there is a geologist in the audience and he got up in europe no no no no no no that's that what was millions of years millions of years it took four that channel to form and i said no i don't think so and what happened was is by him challenging me really you know i said okay you know i can you know i am a fighter getting challenges our camera take you on you know i wrote to the occasion and i spent literally years doing research on
glacial geomorphology on paleo hydrology and of course at the end of the thing i knew that i was my instincts were absolutely correct that now there is solid scientific jackie mandible verifiable evidence that this channel of the minnesota river valley was filled brimful with water at the end of the last i saw what he was saying with millions of years we sing that same exact channel of water had never varied and that it had just caught through over millions of years very slowly yes but does that sort of that doesn't seem rational because the with no it doesn't you'd half a dozen doesn't makes so this goes along with what you are talking about earlier that the idea these the ideas of science with that everything had taken place much like evolution on a very gradual pace exactly is the grand canyon is well known which here's what i would say about the grand canyon i think the grand canyon is prey
we can observe it we can observe the colorado river eroding the grand canyon however i think that erosion of the grand canyon is not uniform its episodic which means that the grand can has probably been there between two and five million years because for one thing grand canyon wooden start eroding until the colorado plateau had lifted up and ten twelve million years ago the rim rock of color of the colorado plateau was limestones which implies a shallow marine environment right now when it's down at marine sea level it's not gonna road it's not until plateau lives up between five and ten million years ago that the downcast and can start so my team on the grand canyon would be that one happens is as we have you have to understand it
now this is this is i think a reality is the merging emerging paradigm khartoum of change the gradualist mode that we ve seen dominating through know the last hundred years at least since the advent of modern science and in that if you want to with a catastrophic mode where is much changes compressed into a few years or months or sometimes even days or weeks as normally would take thousands and thousands of years when i look the grand canyon what i'm seeing their his episode of catastrophic erosion problem stretching back over two and a half million years member i said the pleistocene was about two and a half million years what character this is the place to sing from the press supply yossi is this alternating succession of glacial and interglacial ages the swinging back and forth between these two extremes those sort of transition appear to be profoundly catastrophic
and they are associated with things like mass storms massive rainfalls rising and falling of sea levels on it in extreme basis and i think it's that that his created the grand canyon predominantly in fact the inner shall i if you ever seen grand canyon yeah ok there's an inner gorge i guess it eddie inner gorgeous probably less than a hundred thousand years old and probably a lot of it was cut thirteen thousand years ago and so that's the pleistocene ended somewhere around ten thousand years ago you tend to there thousand years ago while yeah that's that's not a real picture not simply an artist rendition yeah i have pictures somewhere near we still get a sense yeah now that they take the accumulation of the sedimentary rocks yacht took hundreds of millions of years but that's one process the down cutting
the erosion of the canyon is a different process so it comes to a matter of perspective there were almost incapable of when we i think you know academically ants you you could sort of explain how all this takes place and explain what's happening in our minds are our perspective of live a hundred years looking back it's very difficult to go back twenty years ago and i remember when that happened while barely but this is that ain't shit compared to the earth the ark the earth is just constant we changing are knowledge of human history we have this sort of static view and occasionally we have that media that flew over russia recently and blew up in the sky in areas like what what's wrong with that obstinate enough and go back to work right go back to work go back to sleep in italy global russia that was that was a speck and there's nothing and then his nose turn goose girl
blew up in the early nineties hundreds nineteen o eight june thirtieth nineteen o eight which just why thousands and thousands of acres oh well let's see was eight hundred square miles in six hundred and forty acres per square mile so it flat half a million acres half a million acres and that was the energy of that was about equivalent to fifteen megaton bar pull the others image of tongue goosey out just all the trees completely flattened completely flag up a few look at that gangster treaty still stand there how did it happen i know it just like every now and then is one bad motherfucker that's how people state alive right now because just like everybody else died or most things died and most of the species died a few people
figured out a way to make it and then they decided to have babies what a bunch of crazy fuck could you imagine giant asteroid heads kills everybody rotten people and woolly mammoths all over the place and you're still horny for money and you make a baby like wow you raise it in the that baby makes more wise what does it say in a burger journalists beef full and multiply now get this the word reap in the earth replenish the earthen subdue it i think clearly that's a clue her hand that saying this is not the mortal creation it's a subsequent creation to something up we order of things why the word replenish be fruitful and multiply it would make sense if if the human population crashes in the wake of a global catastrophe and we're down here and as the threshold of viability where you know we could become extinct if
anything else happens and we want to we want deserve our species while the probably the thing we need to be doing is having lots of sex does sometimes yeah i know we need to do lots of screwing and we need to give but screw and make scientists to figure out how to get us office rock yeah well see a fruitful multiply and makes major replenish the earth and subdue it what that was a say subdue it subdue at tat sin genesis or yards in genesis what the hell are they talking about their choke the earth well i see that's the way it's been interpreted i think it's in being interpreted to say look you guys are the these rational species downer you ve got these brains you know you gotta be born before you you know it takes you years and years to actually get where you can survive on your own because you got these big fucking brain see so we're
kind of like natures answer to all of this you know only one species right now has the ability to intercede and prevent the next global catastrophe and that's all do we rise to that challenge or do we say well we're gonna let nature run its course and if fifty percent the species disappear civilization is over we go back the stone age struggling for existence well so be it that's what's in the cards or do we say you know what we goodbye they in one generation be harvesting the resources of asteroids which we could be we have the will and evasion and the thing is is the most dangerous asteroids out are out there is the closer we get to the earth them accessible they are an indian
we already could be harvesting the resources of lastra amy asteroids are loaded with precious metals and oars and hydrocarbons has virtually nothing that we are now mining from the earth that we couldn't mind from asteroids what is that suggest to you well and and think about this if if i like to kind of imagining scenario suppose we had discovered member shoemaker levy nine yes croquet disk bird in march of ninety ninety six within about eight weeks of observations the astronomers were to predict that these friday painting pieces organ orbit the sun and come back and crossing the orbit of jupiter at exactly the time to jupiter with their right there it'll be a t bone collision it was like to be coming to the intersection at the same time and they were able to predict that right down the almost to the minutes to the hemisphere one of discovered
there's an asteroid orbiting the son out there that's got our number on it and it was in a strike the earth and three years or ten years or twenty years or whatever what would be response to it what will we do i think globally it would be there would have to be some sort of a collective acts effort the scientists from china and russia in all these different various countries that have vast technological capabilities would probably get together have some sort of an agreement i would think that there would have to happen and it would fact it would probably make our petty human contact ex pale into insignificance if we were faced with the demise of of our civilization or even possibly our species but suppose we discovered it in its common in couple years then there's no time to respond what could we do well perhaps if we had a long enough lead time we could actually
reflect all we need to do is is is an asteroid it's on a collision course with europe also has to do is be nudged a little bit and direct it can be a wide miss see that's all we would have to do which is not yet a little energy various per day she'll technologies whereby we could do that but what if we didn't have enough lead time and we knew that then it was gonna slam into the earth and thousand years going too how about what would we do well paid so we could go build a base on the moon or builder thing in space that would allow humans to survive at least and the dust settled enough that we could return and begin replenish the urge you know what a bomber it would be if you had a base of the moon rose live in their new wash the earth blow up total bomber but it would be even bigger bomber if you didn't have it in your sit ninety earth no one that's it man that's all she wrote how
many different times do you think that this has happened while human beings are alive and what how doubted other there look the group speculation is always been when they see the pyramids or when they see any incredible structures that we really haven't totally explain how they built what a warlike bobo in lebanon is what how advanced were they well how advanced where they were the shit hit the fan well it seems to me that an ordered you know you gotta go why would primitive cultures move rocks that way two hundred to thousand tonnes apparently with punitive they were doing it all over the planet right wooten why why would somebody be motivated i mean like again i'm a builder so i know how much work it takes to move even with a crane without modern technology to move
into place that weighs a ton right well you know we ve got stuff once in some of these ancient temples that way hundreds of torrents and again all over the world seems to me differ to imagine that they didn't have some kind of a technology that we forgot what their technology is i couldn't say but it would sure seem to me that there would be no motive for moving off five hundred tonnes stones unless you at some convenient way of doing it or if not convenient way of doing it just explain how in convenient way they could have done it when you get something like the acropolis or the parthenon that's on the crops so it is now it is the part the acropolis is the stone and the parthenon outside these promises the hill there with you complex on it and the parthenon is one of those enables the problem
this is a man made construction that has massive massive stones that they just don't explain yeah commissioner there therein therein coups go in south america the other in egypt yeah there it is a ball back one is actually probably even more impressive jamie see you pull up the stones of ball how to spell it be double a l b e k there there's these stones are just unbelievably big and no explanation for how they move them caught them carried them got them into place and what year it was all done right that's one vision of it or of a picture of it but if you want search for others it is actually close up of the actual stones themselves and they show people standing next this stone so you get a perspective of it that much
much taller than a human being and directly i think ten or eleven feet tall in some places like there's one rock just move that but but the stones did that's out of when jamie there's there some where you can see the massive amount of of of stone that was in each individual one some of em and literally bill sized and just an individual stone and the others one like what fuck man what the fuck is that that is so big there they moved that they cut that corridors and moved it in our know how many people they had to do that but boy that doesn't seem like thing that a society which is really concerned with feeding itself you're having seen a great pyramid and so when you see like the construction of the grey pyramids which is one of the great wonders of the world and to this day
always trying to come up with ways they did it but the sheer size and put it into perspective if you cut and i think the number is ten stones data six two million three hundred thousand plus stones in the great pyramid of geese then if you cut in place ten a day it would take you six hundred and sixty four years yeah i know you are having seen a great pyramid and many of the temples in egypt i am convinced that they had to have some means that we ve forgotten about for transporting these as you know they may have used fairly primitive methods to court the stones but when it comes to transporting the stones you know we could imagine that their pudding rollers and dragging him over you know hill and dale but you gotta go really the whole planet they just
it's one of those things like the demise of the frozen willie mammoth there's no real explanation and in we can invoke explanations that are based lee designed to avoid the locations of admitting that there may have been addressed knowledge scientific knowledge in pre history somehow another that knowledge was loss where there was because of the burning of the library of alexandria or whether it was just a cataclysmic event that wiped out a mass now the population and what was remaining was buildings like that things survived and then people try to recreate them people eventually figured out some of the techniques and made similar structures but not over a period a thousand years or to values but maybe twenty thirty thousand years that's always been the work of graham hancock did the the ideas they bounced around
and i remember there was that charlton heston narrated documentary on the sphinx where they had gone into great detail about the erosion they brought on the geologists robert shock from boss university i know robert i wanna get him on the parties to is a fascinating carriers and he concluded that the a temple the sphinx the inclosure where was cut out of shows thousands of years of erosion by rainfall which there wasn't rainfall in the nile valley before now thousand years ago some predates the pyramid construction the average or the the conventional dating of the pyramid there it is there that somehow his ex explanations a it's the what the conventional data the pyramid is by more than five thousand years
oh i'm convinced in i've had conversations with robert where he will basically say he's got one number for public consumption but he's perfectly willing to admit that perhaps the snakes as much much older than that and i want to die number what's the crazy number oh i think that the crazy numbers tens of thousands of years if you pull it's not that crazy though now it kind of crazy when that charlton heston document documentary was around but now but they found go beckley tapping and they know that fourteen thousand twelve thousand years ago whatever it was they were absolutely building these enormous immense structures that be why thousand years seven thousand years earlier than the pyramids nazario not that big a deal not that big of a day they they that conventional dating in the gray parent of visa is two thousand five hundred bc which may be correct
it still doesn't mean that the sphinx wasn't way way old way older than exactly and you know i'm minced having seen at first hand at that erosion is water induced i've looked at a lot of erosion over the years and you know it's got the classic parabolic profile at you spect if you started out with an initially square jamie open up the powerpoint show entitled cataclysmic house global superfly cataclysmic global superfund that's when you ban and it's gonna be one band go forward cataclysm cataclysmic was the greek term for the destruction of the world by water while from yet our term cataclysm wow and their term see degree believed that there were alternating destruction of the world by water and fire right at per paralysis was the term
term for the destruction of the world by fire and dumb cataclysmic loss of of water on the surface so unbelievably fascinating because there's no way that you can try viewed all this stuff mean these of these ancient structures there's no way you can attributed to we know about their culture we don't know enough there's this now enough evidence there's not enough weed know enough about ancient egypt or are there destruction methods are so much the so much thinking so much guess work so much you know when you look at these giant structures and you wonder like what what were they doing how did they do this who were they like it so fascinating i would just ask i would love to be able to go back in time is a giant bullet proof
well i know just hover over ancient egypt was goin on back there i owe where'd you guys know jamie go to you ve got a global superfluous what is this image gotta slide fifty eight did the infamous slide fifty eight hangar eighteen like fifty eight areas la that's beautiful ok that's amazing now what you can see there is you gotta get it microphone gonna make from the valley tat building up there oh yeah ok the veil attempting to withstand chloride from the ditch around the sphinx you gotta remember but the snakes is that originally it was a yard day which is it which is a limestone outcrop that sticks above the surrounding landscape yard was the head of the sphinx everything else was below now go next slide jamie
there you can really see the ditch surrounding the snakes in layers forming stinks body chorus onto the layers and surrounding ditch now wanted me you'll notice the scaffolding next to the sphinx with their there there there under making these campaigns of rest quota and quote restoration growth but what does actually doing is their covering up the real message of the sphinx your why are they doing why they bothering to try to rebuild the i don't know it's so stupid why are you're not rebuilding your building new shit yeah you're just refill sing it we're with new start so gross but at least nobody is messing with the quarry walls where you can see the water erosion so effectively displayed go to the next slide jamie now what we see here is an abandoned quarry its heart tell the scale here because at opening is like forty feet high but if you look at
you you see the striations in the rock war ok this is where they corridor blocks right and remove the blocks go to the next slide jamie ok this kind of shows the methodology that they use date they would create these separation trenches they would usually go by the the natural bad rebuilding layers of the rock go to next slide you'll see here here's the prison a process where their cutting it preparation tranche and there's a block about to be quarry air and then you can see their whereabouts stack of four blocks their in these blocks are enormous several tonnes oh i gather that block there would be looks like it's probably about or by eight by probably ten so like three hundred and twenty cubic feet a hundred and sixty per
so or a hundred and eighty so you're looking at about fifty seven thousand pounds divide by two thousand so you are about to hear about thirty tonnes thirty tonnes that rock right there now go to the next slide thirty tonnes ok now the reason i'm showing you this is because this is the process they would have used to query the blocks away from the the surrounding the snakes and exposed a quarry wall well at the time net cornwall was exposed it would essentially a flat surface with this slightly profile like we saw in the photograph right now go the next slide right so there is now would be a cross section with all of the blocks removed ok the next slide and what we i have here is stone marks in a limestone lets you got quarry from ram
seed times about twelve hundred bc about thirty two hundred years ago so here's a limestone face of a quarry that's been was for three thousand two hundred years and seems like they used to serve a chisel together exactly the depict marks are still visible go to the next slide ok here stone pick marks an enquiry from nearly new kingdom circa fifteen some thirty five hundred years ago you can actually deterred the type of tool that they used to glory the rocks the picture the chiseled go to them extra one based on the marks of banks and and here you see that the chisel marks made or pick me made by stone picks in an old kingdom limestone quarry two thousand here's bc so here's a four thousand year old corey that's been sitting exposed to the desert elements and the picnic are still visible on the face now go to them slide now here the sphinx go to the next slide and look at that corey wall
this crazy it's crazy yeah there now firstly this quarry wall is only a few centuries older than at last sure we just saw where we could see the pic marks does that mean since we are the only way it would make sense as if there was a vastly different type of stone while it's not that it's the same it's a well indurated limestone robert can tell you all about position of that stuff with the lid the composition does very the oie erect exam some of its more dance and others and that you can see of the change see and you can see that that indented layer about halfway up is going to be a softer limestone absolute is it certainly looks to the layman non clearly a layman but it certainly looks like like water fishers like oh fishers there are even rainfall even to the train die it looks like water but some legit
egyptologists in even legit geologists have tried to attributed to wind in sand well i guess you know robert has shown pictures of the comparison of wind erosion to san emotion or water erosion it ain't look the same so the only reason to attributed this to wind in sand it's not based on the scientific evidence of what it looks like we're water erosion it's too confirm or to conform with the known or establish time line of congestion yes that's why i showed you those examples of other core like that old kingdom quarry that's almost the same age as does actually really not scientific to try to attributed to wind in san it's just heard what you're doing is confirming to confirmation by sea or that you have an idea in your head and you you're trying to la to make this really odd erosion inferior to that but that doesn't like wind inside out
gordon flying u reason let joy jamie jam band bungay so there's the debt of the of the hour of the day it is about when two feet and air chose each of the layers like if you look at layer eleven that's going to be a softer limestone eroded deeper right now the next slide and you'll see i've done is superimposed what do you really a profile would have looked like there has been an enormous amount of rock limestone removed and we know the proof i would have looked like that because the stones at work worried are what make up this thanks and valley temple right than those have been eroded as well but unfortunately they ve covered that up with this reconstruction well most likely most likely and i think robert would confirm this that the limestone blocks at form those temples were sheathed in hard granite whereas
this cornwall was not it was exposed when it is also the issue of the sphinx head itself which seems to have been altered in this this a timeline thing that folks may or may not know but there's been egypt changed quite a bit mean egypt egypt was around for thousands and thousands of years and at some point they were conquered by the new andy the more african what we think of his traditional african faye obviously egypt as part of africa but the more traditional looking african faces is what you see in the current face in the temple this family so probably what had happened is a later date pharaoh said you know what the fuck this line i want my face up there so they put the face of this probably catherine and i think both yon anthony western robert shock would concur with that
why there is so little erosion on that face right is that faces a few thousand years old and why would be disproportionately small compared to the rest of the body so fascinating arches i would give so much to know what they knew then i ever any point in time to go back in human history and just to be able to observe that would be the time that the just a middle of egypt i'd love to see what it looked like before they raided it and took off folks i don't know it covered in smooth limestone and they they cut at all to build cairo they raided it yeah there was an earthquake that flat cairo in you know they had attempted to penetrate the great pyramid prior to that without success but apparently the earthquake which i think happened i think it happened the twelfth century loosened a few rocks from near the top of hear me that allowed them to get some levers in air and begin to prime loose so
i've read or a bunch of fuckin asshole stock about vandalism now get this whether this is true and we have no way of knowing but there are many many arabic accounts and counts of early antlers and pretty much they all unanimously declare that the end outside of the pyramid was inscribed think about tat we in the hell would that have been telling what kind of message was that was being sent to the future that must have been amazed now i get i get my my hair stands up on my legs just thinking about events arrived here hey listen there's room talks in space and occasionally they land and when they do you're fucked building of these inside wait for further instruction it's amazing list there that thing existed
robert shock is corrected nothing existed before the holocene events that those are the only types of structures that would still be here yeah exact affected people make it through there wonder what the number was well i'm an erratum in eu story airs my theory on all over the world we have traditions about catastrophes and cataclysms and giant floods all over the world with these that they have come down to us and theirs out of deviation but there is also a lot of similarity in there dear that a small group had some kind of for knowledge you know whether was no one to bible or do kelly and any greek myths sir appears term into sumerian messrs issa threats are man knew i mean to do that culture heroes and survive these great cataclysmic floods are indeed does does right away
can head prolific traditions about giant floods when when george caitlin the famous indian artist spent decades life going around living with various indian tribes fight forty years painting and in writing about em variant to quote in one of his books he says that their are widely divergent with traditions and language and customs and so on but of hundred and twenty tribes the he visited they all had one thing in common that we're descended from survivors of some gigantic cataclysmic event that's me continued you find in north america you find it in south amerika you find it into polynesian islands you find it in australia japan i mean it round the entire planet this idea in
our modern science is confirming what we assumed was merely some kind of prestigious nonsense of pre scientific alive barbarians and we're realizing that those myths and no stories in epic tales are handed down for centuries and centuries actually contain hard scientific truth from sir having eye witnesses were these craters actually do exist and they you write that authorizing craters undeniable de nuclear glass throughout asia europe undeniable here beings were alive then i guess and of human beings were alive then they get fucked up there will no doubt about it they did they they they would have suffered enormously and just like you know if it you know if three quarters of the species of animals and north american went extinct do you think that the twenty five sent surviving came through completely unscathed knowing simply means that there's a threshold above
age a species is viable it can survive there's there and in below which there may have been survivors but there just worn enough of them they were too widely scattered serious habitat loss which would have diminished food supply in a just died out but either dirt clear array indirectly as a result of these categories traffic environmental changes that accompanied the ending of the ice age humans had to have been affected by this and all the myths and stories would totally can her with that idea you know they're dead dead were humans and are consistent with this one detail that there were some humans it had for knowledge and so they built stu caerleon built an arc just like noah did wooten appears to be built an arc this authorise built an arc manu builtin are were these stories coming from you are they just lily conjured up independently of one another and that detail is just thrown in or is there some
kind of a reality behind this that there were people who had for knowledge well if there were any blood had foreign outages suggested suggests to me that there were two groups of survivors those who survived because they intentionally and to survive they had for knowledge they took steps to secure their survival in freemasonry there's the account of of lobby or the account of even actors variants of on it but you know the story of a dynamic in in masonic tradition says it enoch had you know who in the end it the patriarchs before now had this for knowledge at the world was gonna be destroyed either by fire flood so he created this underground vault it was deep under and it was concerned it was preserved within nine layers of stone it was nine layered vault and your unless you had the key to accessing too to how
access this vault which was now like a time capsule preserved the site it's in the knowledge and wisdom of the greed diluvial world or pre flood world he then set up two pillars of brass and a pillar of marble the pillar of bread ass designed to withstand the effects of that cataclysm the lottery destruction the pillar of marble if i'm remembering it right was to withstand and the the the destruction by fire so there were they two pillars that basically informed any survivors that there was this nine chambered underground fault that contained the secrets of the press this world age that is which coming to pass and that's an entrance part of masonic tradition in fact a whole masonic symbolism is based around that idea and dumb and it has parallels throughout traditions is well well
what i'm getting at here is if if there was some people who had for knowledge of it and took steps to survive they were the ones who preserve the knowledge of the pre that the previous the anti delusion world order the other survivors just survived by the lock of the draw like a tree standing near right they just happened to be in the right place at the right time they survived but now they going to be the ones ordinary wholly preoccupied simply with it ask of surviving finding enough food to eat and shelter because clearly the planetary environment was going through all kinds of changes whereas the other group had take natural steps to survive and preserve knowledge now look at the beginning of recorded history four thousand five thousand years ago will basically halfway back through our policy right ok let's forget
this is of conjecture assume that at the end of the holocene human population crashed right with you on a build a pyramid or a great temple you ve got to have a labour force right well if you ve got standard bands of survivors you basically are be able to accomplish that let's assume that you got to of humanity wondered sitting there with all of this knowledge at their disposal just like imaginative our modern society was wiped off the face of the earth but somebody somewhere some deep cave underground was able to preserve our knowledge of physics and chemistry and in the various sciences well obviously in order to run this computer that were running here to do this broadcast requires an intact huge intact in structure right could know how to build a computer we could know how to do tat how to broadcast but if we have the infrastructure would you sit nine information right well let's assume that you have group that survived right and they ve got
the custodians of this body of knowledge right now it's three thousand four thousand five thousand years for the human population to reconstitute itself and now you ve got a labour force and let's opposed but there's gonna be another cataclysm impending you know such the wondered perhaps cause the deadline was flood which in other evidence now that around five thousand years ago there was an story the impact in the indian ocean right through two miles of ocean water and blasted a toy of my a wide hole on the floor of the indian ocean and what year was as this would have been five thousand years ago now how much impact with that of had huh it would have created soon armies well on the island of madagascar and southern island of madagascar and it should be in this in this programme that we ve got all
right here jamie if you go to slide number yeah go to slide number one hundred and eleven it's so ironic that today our focus is closer and closer to the cloud closer and closer to chips to solid state hard drives these different things that are is not going to last right no paper no but not carbonizing in stone you know that denies that we have is like how much of what would everybody has is on drives mean how much of what everybody has in the cloud on a server somewhere in food fuck is gonna be all to figure out how to read that shit a thousand years from now lightning happened to us just like we're trying to figure out how to read addition higher ass ok look at look at slide number hundred eleven now
my point here go to the next you can see we ok right there you see you see those wiggly things like dragon scales yeah what that is is its water water that washed on land and washed up you see a kind of comes to appoint men and washed back out this is this is a sonata deposit and those fateful yours that you're looking at the kind of look like this there's called chevron right that's what but when the water washes in makes deposits of joy ripples and in washes back out what kind of time frame we're talking about when this happens listens destitute of ours so that all happened in our seen hours yet you could still see it today go to the next slide jamie our closer up look here now you see see how their shaped almost be lightened that's the chaperone like a sergeant stripe almost grant ok go to
next slide ok here's a cry section of one of those vitiate tale six hundred feet in height why that's incredible now what's out what you're seeing in the back them up one more jamie so though images right there what we're seeing there it looks like the effects of a river or war something is watery amsterdam when you go back you see it from the ground it looks i hills six hundred feet high so you're talking about a massive amount of water we're talking about a tsunami whose minimum marina pight is the height the thickness of these hills six hundred feet minimum minimum minimum and that's of core massive amount of weight and devastation and this is all five thousand years ago you gotta next slide jamie keep yeah there's madagascar location of the chevrons on the southern edge of madagascar that's it
two slides up and over on the other side at the same age if we look at the south where composed of australia i take the next slide we'll get a closer in view there we go you see that sploosh gee that's that's the technical scientific term israeli cluj now i just made you britches even see the stuff that's been washed over you see that's very clear there okay that's the other side of the ocean so the other side of the ocean directly opposite of where this thing impacted yeah goes in massive impact in the middle ancient crash epic warlike let's go back to that slide word from the words as ancient crash epic wave next slide keep goin rights right there can we read
yeah the southern in madagascar lie for enormous wedge shaped deposits called chevrons that are composed of meat real from the ocean floor each covers twice the area of manhattan with sediment as deep as the cry we are building is high on closer faction chevron deposits contained deep ocean mike fossils that are fused with medley of metals typically form by cosmic impacts holy shit yeah holy shit and so that if that in four thousand eight hundred years ago what kind of an impact with that of had on human civilization oh well it why pretty much would have wiped out anything adjacent to the indian ocean as close to it but what about on the other side of the planet mean there would have to be some mass of the facts are there would be most likely what we would see and the other side of the planet is extreme weather events
keynes torrential rain falls things like that win kill a huge amount of people worldwide could kill a few much huge amount of people worldwide yes and so that is probably the most recent that's probably the most recent and no record of it because people really didn't have any record but they have no record of it is probably when we see these stories like noah's flood and arrest so that's probably about this one so it's not even about the holocene one around one five thousand years after the house from one yes it s orient realize now is that these have happened with a much greater degree of frequency than anybody had imagined congratulations you freaked me to find out i swear you know you have an objective
five stars a plus freak out loud is this has been an intense three hours just flew by three hours we just three hours while over then amazing we do this again a bit could talk for another sixteen hours yeah maybe early scratch the surface you please let's do it again let's take couple months off regroup and come back any i'd love to use more please thank you very much for doing a really really pressure is incredibly enjoyable incredibly enlightening for me really they appreciate i knew was gonna be like this just though that the brief conversation that we have a chance to have in atlanta many years ago i've been looking for talking you again thank you very much for doing us it's been some are really brilliant enjoyed if people want to research more of your work greed more of your staff work and they go work nay what can they find go to sacred geometry international dot com and our links there i've got another website that
linked from near psych insane geometry international idea with a bunch of different stuff not directly connected necessarily worth what we're talking about here but there'll be extra another website that i've got where i'm really exploring like the cattle affix stuff regret lots of images of of things yeah because i've done lots and lots of field exploration have thousands of images of just awesome stuff does sacred geometry have anything to do with this stuff rosetta totally different sacred geometry put it this way as we have inherited this corpus of ancient knowledge sacred geometry is one of the key these four deciphering these ancient traditions because all of these ancient temple structures which are the textbooks in stone if you will have several pony gene in common action michael and geometrical being the two per day
and if you understand the geometry you realize the geometry is like a universal code by where whereby you can preserve certain types of information because job what really is universal done matter what your spoken languages the principles of geometry are what they are you know the relationship of a of a re to a circle is the same and it doesn't matter what culture you come from you see so geometry is a critical means deciphering the the knowledge that and i think that the per predominant way of preserving ancient knowledge is in the temple structures and have to be looked at as textbooks in stone and once we begin to realize that then we can go when you go to egypt it's not just the hieroglyphs that's a part of it but it's also the geometry and strong to meet its encoded there and we can see the same astronomy at work whether we're looking in egypt whether enjoy i'm a tree or whether we're looking at megalith ex structures in age and england or whether where
looking at mega monumental earthworks up any ohio valley or looking at this the mai you been to teach anita right ok then complex there is laid out according to principles of sacred geometry and astronomy in its exam equally the same principle underlying there is find in egypt that will be our next time say phobia grey i can't wait thank you so much really appreciate no karlsson these gentlemen you can follow him on twitter its sacred geo i tea for sacred geometry international evidence so yeah so sacred geo and tea on on twitter and sacred geometry international dot com is the website thank you so much really amazing and can we start again i'm gonna start go
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