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#573 - Daniele Bolelli

2014-11-11 | 🔗
Daniele Bolelli is an Italian author, professor, and martial artist. His books include "Create Your Own Religion" and "On the Warrior's Path" and his podcast called The Drunken Taoist is available on iTunes.
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today on the show is just a fucking awesome dude danielle bolelli is just a brilliant guy a philosopher professor and academic if you were a friend a martial artist and a just a great thinker and i always enjoy talking to him he has his own podcast called the drunken taoist and without further ado my friend a beautiful human being danielle bolelli alley train by day joe rogan podcast by night all day ladies and gentlemen the drunken taoist himself danielli bolelli my friend how are you pleasure honor to be or again always a pleasure in order to have your brother house if you hear anything in the background from giggling danielle is beautiful
daughter is here babysitting plans didn't work out well we'll make it happen but i feel weird about swearing so well you should see what comes out of her mouth on a regular basis so yeah my daughter gives me a hard time or my wife that gives me a hard time for swearing in front of our daughters it's like there's like some period where here is a certain point in time we not allowed to swear when they hit eighteen you can say whatever the you want the but anything before then people get a little squirrely of course not but if it's hilarious because you know you can tell that you know you're going to listen to some music you're gonna not even crazy stuff but like all yeah she she like katy perry at some point and so i'm like ok whatever you listening to your song and then she was still a couple of years ago so she was tiny and she goes into school and she start singing to her teacher and their teachers like oh cute song you have such a beautiful voice and she
going like he'll be a mass like a beach i should know and i was like please do you know the pc police is trying to take the word out of our vernacular push which is the latest one was the new retard i won't let go retard i don't care what you say it's not a medical term it's no it's too retard is to slow down is to be behind the curve to be retarded is to be slow it has nothing to do down syndrome or any disease is going to have to ban it eventually but for right now i'm fucking staying strong staying strong with retard and i'm staying strong with bitch what's bad bitch exactly well it's some derogatory term for females it's part of the patriarchy don't you understand you know you don't under
then 'cause you're a white male you need to check your privilege mister belly have you not check your privilege hards yeah i saw your tweet about checking your previous i was thinking about checking my privilege yesterday i didn't go i thought about it so that even mean it's a way that people can silence you i mean that's essentially what it is i mean the idea behind it it has some merit you know the idea that there are people that have village in life and they need to stand them i think it's about put term when your talk think about my name birdies and poor people and people on welfare and people in foreign countries that have no health care in their poor i believe support one hundred percent that but it uses a crutch to silence people the crusher people who lack the intellectual vigor to engage in an honest debate and discussion they say you need to check your privilege
i love watching videos of people that are really that bright but they're like getting involved in those debates and they have that weapon check your privilege it's like it's like a fight that doesn't really know how to box but has an awesome overhand right you know they don't want to string that overhead writes the other boxes like pets get outta here with that overhand right i don't see that shit coming a mile away check your privilege so not that easy you're fucking argument sucks not i mean i got it 'cause there are the people who are you know we live in a color blind society everything there is no more recees and we can all be equal and if you are trying to argue anything but you are in reverse racist and i can see how some of these guys are dicks themselves because there is like ignoring the fact that there's a whole history behind it and when they say we start the race evenly is like well somebody's there shoe strings tight together from fifty years of bullshit no pork and fifty way more an so it's like no
no even the race that's bullshit but at the same time when you turn eighteen to everything is about what happened the one thirty years ago as a come on i thank the fine balance there there's a website that a twitter handle that i don't i don't follow them on twitter because i don't want them to know that i follow them so what i did is cook marked them and i go to her page all the time that's and her thing is about being child free hash tag child for and i mean this woman's entire fucking twitter feed is all about how happy she is that she does child it's one of those you know me thinks thou does test too much you know it's like when you go to it's like oh my god why is this your whole existence is like being happy that you don't have a child like this is so bizarre the bizarre hang up but that bizarre bizarreness is that characteristic of human beings like they can get caught up in a bunch of different weird way
thinking and one of them can be just fucking meandering on and on constantly about racial issues oh yeah of course and it works by the way have you seen al sharpton's girlfriend jesus luiza really oh my god that good oh my god she's fucking ten young ten arms around this crust the old dinosaur fucking suitcase pimp will these are sharped on the dead sea is officially dead i don't know fucking thousands of one thousand and fifty he's disgusting here is just a creep he's just a suitcase pimp you know it's just one of those guys it's just a hustler he figured out his way through that tawana brawley case where was some false accusations blaming all these white people it's again the same thing that source race pimp look at her how old are he and that's this one picture by the way this is everything that happens with people's heads
when they lose weight and when people get really fat their heads get big it's sharpton now that's al sharpton now he lost a lot of weight his stomach stapled that's only one photo over she's thirty five zia yee ha good for yeah what do they talk about crayons should just not that young actually thirty five is pretty just beautiful somebody is not watching their little show somebody is sitting in danny double l is lab what are you doing are we watching lethal could if not where creation of tools in the months or not she's she's done dennis say hi to everybody has a very okay i'll hide your the whole time about right right you can sit in my lap watch your show this to be the first show ever we're a little kid is here during the podcast yeah that should be you're so cute i'm going to have to let it slide i'm going to have to
this what should i don't watch tv or anything what time what time so right now it is one hundred and ten you can watch tv if you want you want to she's watching her show more or less see all that that goes yeah well my dog three so i moments ever my daughter's three hundred i took their skips kemsky when it when one daughter was two and the other one was four that's going to start them skiing yeah i just think it's good to get kids doing shit much as possible i take him to dance class and gymnastics and i teach martial arts but i think it's good get them used to traveling at the middle of doing things but when she was three we're put all of stuff into her little bag and little bag carry we travel and she likes to pull around own and she didn't have her helmet in the bag and she had everything zipped up and right when you finish it up on my honey you didn't put your helmet and she goes shit
so adorable i know out a three year old gone and my wife and i would just like oh no she didn't if i have it the ticket kids are do right so what's happened sees what aid the deal that i struck with our was i don't care if you me i get its fell i do it too but you do not there there are places where you do it places where you don right school around other keats in front of your teachers no i told him so one day we were driving home from school and she let slip up something like that which is done or not and i'm like is what's she look at music don't worry i don't that's cool i just say i'm like ok that's fair and so she sees that she had to go ahead and so she went she trisha sister ship kind of got it out of our system in the us that yeah it's it's tricky because it's totally acceptable for adult in normal rational conversations but you know it's not
circles it's our sisters that whole thing the whole censorship in language thing is a such a bizarre aspect of being a human being these forbidden words that we use that essentially interchangeable with words that like what drives me crazy is when someone goes fricking fricking guy with his frickin thing like i hate what kind of bizarre corporate world we live with applebee's existence are we floating through here frickin drives me nuts a sense is we heard weird and that's why i mean i don't over do wait if i can check it i'll try but i don't to censor myself around there in anything you doing anything that i do is kind of like this is how i am right this is i'm not going to out of my way to make it weird but i'm like yeah yeah and i like talking to kids not exactly like they are adults 'cause obviously they aren't but at the same time not treating them like they are fucking stupid where you can treat them like google gaga
in the staff on the longer come on man the kids are ways smarter than you give them credit too and if you if you work with them like that from the get go they will say prize you time and time again with the stuff that they can say back to you oh without a doubt i remember when i was a little kid people i still to this day remember people treating there was more on and talking to me stupid and i'm going to remember thinking when i have kids i'm never talking to him like that so i talked to my kids like their my friends like very sweet to them very nice and i'm like very under any other crying about something that doesn't make any sense but when i explained explained it to him like an adult i know heads only that big can't possibly be smartest man but they're smart man they are my six year old can read now wow which is in thing because i had a shirt on the other day that said nine fucking oranges because i had this a bit in my act is based on a true story where i had my power cut off in my house
because i didn't pay my bill in fact when i was young was very responsible i wasn't even broke i just didn't pay my bill and so the guy came by to turn the power on it seems like a nice guy and after return to power on ago hey man i had an orange tree in this yard of this house i was renting and i go if you want i go grab on those oranges man i go there really delicious and it was ok thanks so the guy goes out there and he takes nine falcon arms and i swear to god man i was twenty i want to say maybe two thousand six hundred and twenty seven every time those twenty years ago and to this day i still sometimes i'm in my car and i'll be driving around i just go nine fucking orange and talked about it on stage and it's really true it's a true story and so this dude gave me his t shirt at one of my shows that just said nine fucking argue make it just for your yeah and had oranges on it i wish i had it on right now but i work for one of the shows one podcast but anyway i brought it home and my dog
cause i know what that says that's a bad word is that a bad word that's a bad word to bust that i didn't even know she knew that word first of all i mean she's your daughter a couple of at once in a time my wife runs a tight ship really i tried it i try to keep it keep it very eg you can try only once but there are ties would you know i remember when she was towards something where i drop something and for the of the day she went on repeating dark dark dark and i'm like i'm glad you sing it's a dark what i said yes that's what i said when i drop it like there's no way look at how wide it you know there's no way it's impossible yeah there is bryan callen brian calendar nine fucking hard i see the fucking is covered by my name but it's nice so i said
that wasn't brian coleman i got back from hunting that was before hunting or 58's after yeah yeah no we did too tupac casserole one before and one after hunting we went up to this island of whales in the middle of a alaska terrible trip reilly well it was beautiful though it was beauty it was a great trip was just unsuccessful hunting trip but there was what great about it was when it back home i really appreciated civilizational yeah i really we slept in a tent it was wet it was wet sleeping bag is wet it was just it was miserable's like forty degrees just pull ford every day it was so much humidity that like inside the tent i would turn that had this little miners light or anything like that headlight i turn it on and you'd see the entire tent was filled with little floating beads of water there's just that much humidity in there
when did you guys go with america's first week of october it was too late yeah it's late yeah it was too late for the area that we were hiding in because the deer had already moved down here at the top where the water is where the lakes are in the deer had already moved out there's water up there lakes that have no fish giant lakes that are late they're only there because of rain water wow giant lake of rain water he drank it because there's no beavers right he just dip your arm thing right in the water we drink right out of the lake that's beautiful and it's a it is beautiful it is it's amazing in that sense like i was prepared for diarrhea every day back to never came they were saying if you get giardia like the the you wouldn't get geordie of giardia comes from animal poop the only way you would get that as if there was a beaver up but you could like run into a bear and a bear could have pooped in there because like some bear poop in your mouth yeah that would be yeah i can see how it syncs could be more fun yeah but it's such an enormous lake the odds of you getting any substantial amounts i mean
the reality is unfortunately we're constantly getting fecal matter and stuff in your body and like even if you're personal only eats plants they say that one of the best ways that vegans get vitamin b twelve is from bugs that they inadvertently eat that are right on their food yeah it just kind of hole where if i add that the other day and he handed out these a glass of wine to these lovely lady and she grabbed it and she was about this now see potentially look and check out the a bag inside as she handed it back to me and i think i was already by then after that i took took a look at it i was like just try my shoulder and down bug and wine and it was tasty nice bugs don't taste nearly as bad as people think they do take it from maine from my days at fear factor i've eaten quite a few bugs that's more in your head yeah then there's anything i mean i would angle for like nasty we are looking cold cold from outer space kind of thing but you know a little bites whatever
i ate a madagascar hissing cockroaches like the site number pagers that that's the a pager that's matt giant madagascar hissing cockroach i think they're referred to that's pretty gross right now it's not bad man how was i guess you know what it is is not the thing itself is what he does scrolled through it's all in your head yeah it really is all in your head with the boys true yeah disgusting but the ones that we got they were ray used in form of their race for movies and stuff like rising in for show biz now it's really in that case yes on the cockroaches son so looking back amazing that there's so many cockroaches there's so much of a need for cockroaches that there's someone who raises them for television so that i've never heard before crazy that's interesting right now we have millions of a man these guys railway vats of cockroaches but i was around them so often it just became nothing right and i watch either men in i forget
it was it was one of the girls from us soap opera was a celebrity fear factor in a major deal if she ate she ate want to coaches to move on that i would eat a cockroach right she won't need a cockroach she ate a worm instead like like i would the reader roach than a warm but adamant about even in my book see a warm i think is filled with dirt yeah probably i mean the dirt but i gained a cockroach is not exactly you get all rap himself day and night and taking showers is i'm telling you eating it was like it was very like taste at all it was very mild just exploded in my mouth and i crunched it but it was very mild like if i had to if i was starving i would eat how was your bowl those things no problem fair starving nancy there are too many things that one doesn't it yeah
makes you gag a little just because it just feels gross in your mouth but reality of like the actual flavor of it is not that bad not too bad nice it's not no worries yeah people are saying that in other countries that bugs are becoming like a viable form of protein yeah they say is really clean protein is less fat than in the most other type of pro thing so yeah if you can get over to ill disease gross supposed to be actually good for you yeah probably and not just less fat i mean how much fat is in a bug yeah i would imagine next to nothing yeah i mean there's super lean right now so they even have like cricket like snacks that you can buy at like hiking places the selic these cricket bars i've done that before it was press enter your sound come out of her ears earbuds
i was wonder what that was i thought maybe some was outside cranking music one of these things fell off year and i need to just okay you can listen to the other ones are just plug it is one of she's so adorable it's alright man then yeah i had that before with a friend of mine was from oaxaca mexico and so one of the traditional thing they will have this entire plates filled with crickets and you know he didn't grow up there he grew faculty are right his parents were all into that stuff so when they he's like i have to try after threat he orders it at how can a restaurant and he just look at it and i can see she's about to throw up like any cycle about right he's just like and i'm like come on is not that bad and i have to say i did the i mean you can eat them but i can think of about ten one thousand five hundred and seventy two things that are better than that you are not the taste testing in the world and they look actually you know they are they are they are not that tiny so they have their eyes that you can clearly see mom crunching on some click a tie right now is it but why is that why is that gross
but like a lobster is ok now actually i mean there are some stuff that i agree with you some seeing sir it's not a social condition you know is yeah this is do you just brought up with the idea that that's normal and then it's normal but otherwise it's not it's just as weird as a bunch of others yeah because i mean essentially like crabs and lobsters and crustaceans there really like bugs or are bugs that just live in the ocean or water bugs and it there are one of the few things that i can't quite i mean the whole being of boiling them alive that freaks me out really i mean other stuff i have no problem you know it's like the hunting thing you know you how'd your hands an animal is free as a good life you kill them you eat them totally make perfect sense to me boiling alive something actually involving porcher to make sure that you get to eat i feel like i can eat something else you know i can it then again and it doesn't have to be a vet i can eat i have no problem with the whole the team thing or anything or any of that
just avoid the degree of pain apart she's like come on man where it makes you feel better they say that lobsters lack the nerve endings to feel pain really yes well they also regenerate limbs pacifica lobster loses a leg it just grows rack in the case but it on the lobster yes if you really wanted to humanely eat lobster you just hack their arms off and they just keep grow their arms back but you know there are claws you could do that it would work i don't know how long it would take to regenerate a claw but they they re generate the same way like crocodiles do right they regenerate as well some lizards do i remember when i was a kid i went to my math or not grand father's hours in the by the seaside and you know i would hardly ever see him so it was kind of a new thing and it was already weird enough and one day i'm thirsty i wake up in the middle of the night i go to the fridge i opened
age and his fucking giant lobster jump out of the fridge is that running away 'cause i had covered it and kept it there alive freak the hell out that's the weird thing about lobsters is they live in the ocean but you can ship them in a box and they don't even know in water and they get to you like from maine and they're all line up like that every day in vegas they have lobster shipped in from maine on the restaurant's disliked hello hello hello what what are these things the day they don't even have to brief i know the coming days can they go with everything i have no idea but it's freaking is definitely speaking yes is free because it comes she needs some sort of a television show for this to work the vision show right there she's not watching watching it which is more interesting
rob we work this out man i would've brought my kids over the get a little party sign on and we just we heard yelling and waste it was the worst i've been a wild and crazy over yeah i don't know what it what it feels but the one thing i do know is when you throw a lobster in the water in the water boils they try to get out so i'm not buying it yeah i don't bite it either on a little weight to me the site xenia thing the people say yeah it's like no they don't feel anything they like it actually is like a sauna to them you know it's like they have these play and so on and all of a sudden they die peacefully and go to lobster heaven a known issue yeah hear music and they just expired they want to go to their dad the relative lobster was being in your fault to be four and they are uniting lobster heaven and anoles well and they one thing that is interesting about like prey animals like deer and antelope and stuff is that they believe now that like when ansel gets captured by god a line or something like that the one the
lights down on it that its brain floods chemicals in almost sort of gives up yeah i get kicked a little bit there but it just sort of gives up there and it doesn't fight like say is if of a lion captured like of a predator you know some of the predator right a not like a leper sale like that they would fight for their right they'll go crazy and make screaming noises and everything but antelopes just like this is just my place in the world today i got colds okay i'll check what's next to life with that i gain see soon yeah come back as a draft for some what's your take on that kind of stuff the do you actually semi believing believe in what's your take i don't not believe in it because i the idea of life itself is so bizarre the idea that we have a a soul that we have consciousness that week see through eyes that we navigate was sound and feel in memory i mean it's all that so so so bizarre that the incarnation is not outside of the question you i don't
i don't know if there is such a thing as a soul i don't know what this life is i don't know like does this life is this a finite experience you you're born and then you die or are you drifting in and out of peril experience experiences every time you go to sleep and wake up mean are you on the same timeline constantly when you a company have you have this memory of your existence in this life that you are you sure that that's exactly how everything goes me just because people in your life seem to think that that's everything how everything goes how do you know that you didn't go to bed last night with a totally different existence and i wake up with a memory of this life that you're living right now is completely bed in your head and we don't know let's make it a famose trance when the butterfly right the whole daoists agent once it was all like they asking about this dream and you say hi this dream
i was about to fly but now i'm puzzled because i don't remember anymore i don't know if i'm really shines when that was that i mean that i was about to fly or if i'm actually about the fly in these is the batter flies dream thinking that as a huge feast once and that's like the paradox off you never fucking yeah you never thought i had a really intense dream once that was so realistic that to this day it haunts me because i was some sort of an animal like a wolf or something along those lines and we were sneaking up on this deer and the deer herd like branch snap or a leaf move and i could smell fear and i remember smelling fear like smelling tingling in this animal's body as it was thinking about bolting as it was wondering whether not heard anything and i also remember smelling water i could smell the water that was dripping and then i woke up i remember thinking like what the fuck is
going on because i remember there was other similar animals near me some wolf like animals near me and we were like communicating without words sort of strange primitive way it was a very short dream but i woke up but i remember thinking wow that was an intensely realistic experience 'cause i didn't feel like while it was going on i wasn't like oh i'm a person that thinks it's a wolf you know it like i was in this animals mind course could easily be imagine sure but then again it's some of those dreams i know exactly what you mean because some of the things are weird there's a there's stuff that i know what i've experienced and then sometime there something that could be seen that he's like this is not part of my life do you know what i'm feeling right now is way beyond the range of my experience this is now part of the game and that's what i find i find it tripping final really interesting like you ever see the movie legends of the fall with yeah yeah yeah you know i really like them
i could only watch it with at one time and i could never watch it again because he freaked the hell out there was one scene where if you guys around watch legends of the fall and you plan to do it ski the next mean old because i'm gonna give spot oiler order on the spoiler from one movie for a twenty years ago not exactly big spoiler but there's that scene where but speech but rather get killed in one word one yeah he goes berserk and he kind of goes behind enemy lines and he and next senior sees you see coming back into camp and he's covered in blood he has german scalps all over him and his walking through the camp in everybody's opening up to let him go through nobody saying award there's this sense of
there's the sense about him that these kind of larger than life he has done this crazy thing of going single handedly again killing probably ten fifteen guy something insane and yet there's the sense of extreme sadness like old that bioware old that warrior ability does in give him what he truly needs which is to get back his loved ones you know right so that combination of extreme larger than life power and total tragedy that you can you know that hold that power doesn't really help you when i saw that scene he was so damn familiar in a way that it's not my you know it's now out my life up until that point are being you know parallel whatsoever in my experience and it was unlike any other movie where i see something and he's like oh cool i can kind of relate to that on some degree any hit me like oh my god i know that feeling so damn well and that i think about it like
where do i know the feeling you went to your cigar whenever i so legends of the following there's nothing in my life to mirror that not even a tiny bit well the imagination is such a wonderful incredible thing it's just it's so impossible to really understand the back countries of the imagination and people can imagine memories i mean there there's been moments where people have been talked into remembering thing spy like by through experiments like through with with you know someone would counsel them and give them a memory of the past and then coach them through this memory and then tie will go on and they'll think that that was a real memory an what what is that i mean the imagination itself is to bizarre aspect of being a human being the ability to like this wolf thing that i had in my mind essentially that was my imagination i mean the only other option is
what is it a suppressed memory from my genetics from along time ago when i was some sort of an animal but you know i mean the idea of evolution is essentially that human beings in twenty fourteen are the result of millions of years of change of natural selection of all these different slow process is that have led us to being this thing that we are today but this thing has a direct link to whatever the survived from that gigantic asteroid that hit the yucatan and was what what one and a half miles deep right like plant light thing was like five not five miles deep into the earth within the second and a half killed everything everything larger than you know can i use the term a everything larger than a chicken so it just like there's a point of reference in just
weird little mammals rat things survived so somehow another from sixty five million years ago this weird little rat things that survived b zero sierra exactly all the mammals around those eyes and of and everything else and what is you know but but there's no direct chain to any wolves there's no direct chain to any mean even the lower hominids even the ones that ate meat he did where they weren't on all fours they weren't so there's no i have no with wolves not so that's the case like what is that thing is that just total imagination is it just the psychedelic chemicals that flood your brain during heavy rem sleep just creating a beautiful image for you to try to actualize and wrap your head around or are you
drifting in and out of realities right are you mean there are you a monkey one day you know this because you wake up and you're done nearly but at least you have you your life and everything is normal but what were you a monkey yesterday alright well i'm probably some would argue that a memo here right now claude everybody argues that i i do i will i yeah i mean it's obviously when those stoner conversations that you have how do we know no we would you know anything about that i was always like i don't know what you're saying yeah but those those conversations are so common like how do you know that you know when you you'd bid and you wake up in the morning you the same person but you don't know and that's weird thing about going to bed is that everyone wants to do it every wants to sleep and everyone scared to die everyone the shut off temporarily but no i shut off permanently oh yeah is a very
very existence 'cause you know if there were any guarantees if truly people that's why i don't really buy a lot of the religious people who think they say i believe these on afterlife isn't that is like if you really did you with a more relaxed about a lost of seeing seeing life because you wouldn't have the field that is likely to have you know if if there's nothing to be afraid of it would be cool is a great you know i my thing here whenever i check out the check out and they go to this other cool place everything is great there's no reason to fear the fed up people are obviously not thrilled with the notion off dine makes me think that they don't believe it half as much as they actually do we'll believe systems very strange it it it can it can really seem in your mind to be absolutely real and you explain these beliefs to someone else and they will tell you that you're an idiot like i was well on the sat once was doing this thing and i was talking to this girl and her sister i'm totally normal and then the girl
all i don't remember what we're talking about he had something to do with gay people don't remember what it was it was something like about gay marriage or gay people they were talking about how the woman was saying that it's a sin is i thought she was joking i really thought she was joking who is a set like a television set she's like well it's a sin i was like yeah it's a sin and and then i realized she was serious i go so you think that god created people that are gay and when did it like as a goof like a trick what is that right and she goes no no no you don't understand she said the devil scales are covering your eyes and i say the devil scales are covering my eyes i'll never forget that term the devil scales i think the devil at scale that's when you know it's going to run but no no no i mean she was friendly she was
just who knows man who knows his girl and her sister and the is the girl the one that i was originally talking to see totally normal but her stir was just out to liz launch right and the devil scales are covering your eyes or what it was just about gay people yeah that's no yeah that's quite freaky ride yeah but it's like people pick and choose shit man all the time i know this dude who's really religious but he has religious tattoos okay i got to read the whole bible you're not supposed to well yeah right executive read all of it this was a tattoo yourself but that's fine if i to me is like when people say the either the r parole or against anyone really john seely because it's like when somebody tells me they are could he stay on our mosley marble dissed or whatever to maybe he's not telling me anything really because as you say people
you can choose what they want out of that so one guy is way of being christian's totally awesome there gonna be super nice people and their belief system helps them being nicer yeah the next guy their way of being christian they pick and choose the crappiest part out of the bible is scary as hell and their way of being crazy and his ranch your life you know don't need the label itself i'm not interested even arguing about whether one religion is good or bad because the reality is that every one of them you're going to find at least some good part in some there's a lot more than others but you're going to find at least a little bit that's cool in just about everything and you're going to find also tons of crap i'm interested in which parts you pick and out those parts inform your behavior how do how do you behave based on your beliefs that is what the interest me yeah it's like like the idea of drugs like all drugs are not just drugs the idea
you know i'm i'm really a religious person i'm a christian right well fred flip phelps was a christian right and then there's like rupert sheldrake is also chris tried you know this very up to exert different ideologies at work here but they're both calling themselves christian yeah and fred phelps justice evil mean creepy old that eventually tide is rotted in his own filth from fucking anger yep that's exactly how it is that's why i to me even the whole anti religious views toward sometimes gets to dematic because it's like oh christians are muslims are all evil is like do you really think
every single line out of millions of people who belong to the scenes they are old bad people ground man his like there's there's the nice lady will peak the parts that are all about being nice to your neighbor and chatted to you know whatever and that's their way of being christian or muslim or buddhist or whatever the hell it is yeah and is awesome and there's nothing wrong with detainees actually pleasant and i'm free to actually helps our life other beliefs yes those are scary and anybody going by does billy's daniel ct natural and is not helping old lady cross the street these chopping people sat off because they don't i believe the same thing you do that's very used got that the freaky part but i don't even care what it's people are i always argue about which one is the one who does only shit it's not even just their lieges alone 'cause if you look at like communist dictatorship nods is they've all done in the name of its totalitarianism you know is that idea of everybody needs to live according to my way of life and anybody who doesn't need to be squashed that's the scary thing
gary itself which label is attached with regardless of which set of clothes it's a site where is the same shape yeah ideologies are there prob panic because when you like you force yourself into like a framework you force yourself into a pattern anything that's outside that framework is like automatically not to be considered when you have like rigid thinking anytime you ever greeley except like rigid thinking like hey you shouldn't raw people hey you shouldn't go around stealing you sitting around going around stab people you shouldn't mean there's rigid things that this as a like a pretty clear cut it makes sense because they're causing harm to others but is also there's ideologies that are just you get locked into a man you're forced to think that way because of it like people that i'll tell you that this religion is correct because this religion is the truth like they'll and they'll tell they'll force themselves to like he stuck in that little box right and you don't
admit that you ever fucked up and lived twenty years of your life believing in some nonsense so then you're stuck you're stuck in this little box and that could be atheism just much as it can be christianity because i've met a lot of atheists that as you're in a religion you're just the religion called atheism and they want you claim your an atheist like i know is due this an atheist and he gets upset if i say i don't know you know like that we sent that to me is the most honest thing you can raise or not about a lot about stuff of the universe is i don't know the reality of it he hasn't had any really extr name psychedelic experiences either rice had none in fact he's very smart guy but ideas are like only based on his own personal experiences and what he's learned and what is red and he's a very smart person is very aware of religion and please like so adamant about per cream claiming there is no god and i'm like look dude
i have seen things on mushrooms that are way crazier than an old man with a book check in your name in the cloud and leading you through pearly gates and there's a bunch of people with wings i've seen some that's way crazier than that so that i don't think that's true there was no evidence whatsoever in my estimation that that that exists but the idea there might be some universal consciousness that we want to describe as a god it's just it's not this old man in the clouds wearing robes it's just something maybe even beyond the realm of humanity beyond the realm of the possibility of us understanding i don't see any evidence for that but i'm not throwing it out exactly i mean if somebody is telling you some crappy fairy tale that subject poorly written on his bad screen writing it doesn't take a genius to figure out ok that just bullshit and i can see it but if you define god
in some other way how the hell do you know the price you know once you reject as the most bad zeke sealy type of fairy tale everything else is up for grabs because nobody really knows i mean only versus that's right to me it's kind of hard to have the discussions about religions even like the books i've written about religion because huge
people who don't like organized religion is because they are big fans self you know kind of a hard core were materialist ward velum where it's all about what you can see and touch and nothing does exist right so then you write a book that pleases those guys and doesn't please the religious folks that's great you still have an audience but if you argue for something more subtle if you are you for something that's basically not dogmatic either religiously dogmatic or a nap hardcore materialistic form dogmatic then you're out of luck if there's a fight in an audience because you are there's no need church that you'll jumping to right away right is not just one simple so you know there's does group of guys that are going to be right behind you you're asking people to be aware on a moment by moment basis
so right urgent just simply buying into a dogma spouting the idea already spouting that this is what we believe one two and three here asking people to live life without relying on a damn recipe that you apply at every little thing you run into and instead you to use their nose to use their i sniff the situation right now i'm able to in this particular case i'm going leasing in these other cases the same scene that warrick two minutes ago is not appropriate and is not the right thing to do it's kind of liking fighting you know he's like there's anything to sings there's a time into sings en going with that plan a region plan going with a plan is great but going with that rigid plan they are not going to change it out as of what's in front of you is the recipe for death you know you ask up seem seeing why would the life in general be any different the region that blind a scheme to every see
come see our way i mean to me reality talent is is minimal to judge things we can hear out unfortunately that her little your buds are picking up on the though the microphones let's try now are you sure you don't want to watch tv that's ridiculous my kids watch tv every chance they get because i don't watch tv watch tv we could always go do you wanna watch some tv like you work so look that up yeah yeah this is to greatest thing ever for travel man for travel we put on those things behind that the headset and people go oh why do that why not have your kids like have a conversation she's fucking for right that our session only last so long right not only that there's like educational cartoons now ask cartoons of like teaching house baroni some and they could sing along with it learn you know phrases and words have you ever heard of theirs atheism obviously
there's a thing called atheism plus have you heard about what day is in plus new tile is essentially new religion it's atheism plus a set of moral guidelines i call it duh this is why i call it because it's like it's all be a good person but i just think that's done you know and maybe like when it comes to things like racism and these sort of discussions or homophobia or any any sort of discuss in about quality or reading people in a very negative way because of something that they can't control like their sexual orientation or the way the the skin and they have what color they are what part of the world are from i think anybody was a good person is it sees that in twenty fourteen recognizes that's a fucked up way to think so these people this atheism i think they have like atheism so they're all saying there's no god there is no god there is no god but we want
a set of moral guidelines to live our lives by with no so show harassment sexual harassment and feminist issues are big aspect of that it's mostly a lot of like really weak men placating to a lot of like angry women and they formed this grew where they all sort of get together they have conferences and they just die each other the death they say it's all just the same shit it's it's all shit that you should already know don't be racist yes don't sexually harass women absolutely don't rape of course you know don't murdered a you know like okay okay how many times can we talk about right i get a certain point i've watched a bunch of their conferences online it's hilarious because it's so fucking dan tick at the end of like you get beaten to death by what they're fucking saying it's like you should already know this everyone should know this this is this is silly and i think that depends on what audience you're speaking to
as you know for anybody was as semi decent human beings should have learned these by the time they are five and it's like done and over with are we still talking about it then of course there are about of people who are not exactly same ad senior one beings so maybe for those guys is a good message but i agree with you is like to me my thing is i use this time and time again in podcasting you're writing i always write the whole idea their rules are for people who are too stupid to live without yeah 'cause you know if you are smart you don't need the damn rules because you know how to make the right call in every situation and you don't need anybody telling you look down rape anybody like i don't need tell me i got it you know in this situation in the next and the next no it's not going to apply that's not there is going to be the exception to the rule right other things that are going to be exceptions but still you're going to have intelligence to be able to make the right call is ua
somebody was coming to mind me they mean baby punching in the face is a good idea you are somebody was disagreeing with me punch in the face are crazy he r i r social but you know you don't need a rule tally neil when he's tough but all bread or not you know you you are able to make the right call when it happens yeah and that's these zero mazing the you can carry on a conversation with her squirming crawling on you this is not working on the nearly as well as we are hoping it was going so slow that we're hoping she was gonna watch the television or watch there are little video yeah yeah i can do it i mean sorry for disturbing you now i just lee apologize it's no worries man i honestly yeah yeah i will sweat higher holds them now than the again she's five yeah the daily folds yeah they just they are what they are at five sometimes you know she surprised me because do things that i'm like really out hello like
member conversation with thirty other day what she's telling me i don't like that i'm so sensitive because every little thing feel everything too much and when i'm happy i'm really happy when i'm sad i'm really set and i'm like yeah i read you were having this conversation and then she goes even one step further she goes but you know what it's okay because at least when i'm happy i'm really super happy so i'll take the pain when i'm really sad while khan seeking jesus why are you a game that's the right is so you know i got three contenders when i'm like way you are way bigger than five i can take you to do these on that and then i realize now she's a five year olds are down here there are limits game but well this is understanding that comes with being a human being and that's what she's got she's this is a human being with you know however what is it for hundred
months on the planet or something like that you know there's limited not even imagine i mean i've been trying to figure the world out with one hundred months of experience an i mean a year school or whatever she's brain surgeon possible but you do have that little human brain and then you're also juggling around this this action of words that you've acquired and so you're trying to express these ideas and thoughts and feelings mmhm one other thing that freaked me out about their from the death please that she not exactly now because she's not picking up on the frustration of it all of the discussion but normally she has it been seen the level of fame but the not just for a keyed by like even for adults i see are like she's always whenever she somebody was having a bad day was really sad she instantly goes to them she's trying to like i've seen at school where she'll go to a keyed was like phase and that the
that you don't like was always giving you a hard time and she's like yeah but i still feel bad a local what about date is guys at one time and she's gonna like trying to calm for damage to the scene like jesus man you're really nice i certainly i thought it i much maybe that's what it is she's maybe they definitely think kids recognize things that their parents do that they don't think or the right way to handle things come up with their own sort of work arounds it's pretty loud your city area school where she was clearly quoting bob marley who was going through a phase bob marley was god bob marley she was going to find all she loved bob marley to death and she would she went to this kid was crying becauses mamad laughed and he was like in preschool or something she was four and she start rubbing the kids back as the kids is crying and she
don't worry about seeing every little thing is gonna be all that i don't like i don't got back three little birds the dead to leiria says she'll have a role in the we are seeing some that when they she's like she ask jean kerr and she's asked me for the millionth time for bob marley and i'm like okay no problem what song do you want to select two little birds mike number it's three eight the march is like not to write you into its three not one to shot so now there's two little birds jesus that's morbid really that's where that's how we're going to play today but my daughter who's four keeps asking me to take her hunting really yeah and i don't know if she's just siri if she misses me when i go away and wants to do like she's never heard a gunshot sprays in a i'm there's obviously no way she can be a pull back and arrow the strong enough to kill an animal so it's like that's not going have
and not of course but step one will probably get used to hearing gunshots now i don't know she's just so bored though what's the matter man thank you i being shipped because you are driving me crazy it was my way of saying where me since he's saying settle down yeah we can't put on a show for you or something like that on a television show for you to watch yeah baby actually let's do this serious see down to watch your show because we can do it it's a great well unfortunately this is being seen by thousands and heard by hundreds of thousands of the failing global at lee as a father is that's due next news nothing feeling about it at all like i said it's it's you know that's one thing of becoming a
father and you know being around kids when i was really young like i was longer than my early 20s i would never be able to deal with it like little kids i'd be like like i brought his little kid but like when i'm playing in like little kids crying it doesn't bother me at all lately it used to drive me crazy but when you have kids it's one of those things where you kind of recognize one of the things that happened at the big shift it happened is i started thinking of everyone as being a baby at one point time like one point time kim jong il was a baby right that's up yeah we know like et i mean was a big all these weird people in the world you know that per story is guided shot his girlfriend your bathroom door the guy was a baby yep okay you know all these creeps and fuckups and assholes babe is gloria allred was a baby there was a cute little girl now she's fucking robin p
using the law just straight up rob dudes how much do you think is how much do you believe in weather the an a or a soul or something like something that you were uniquely about that person when they are born and that's part of our day are or matches culture you know the famous nor german culture to bates what's what's your take on what's more important in days i don't no well they have done studies where they've taken twins that were separated at birth and they were adopted and they get them to weather after not seeing each other entire life and they find out they like the same kind of music really yeah they have very similar likes and dislikes their personalities are very similar there's a
strong argument for nature over nurture right but there's no denying that nurture plays a huge role as well i don't think it's either or right i think we live in a soup of possibilities and i think that you can get super lucky with the amount of exposure that you have to positive an even to negative things like there's an expression hard times make good people you know and i do believe that in a certain sense that there's france is that children and it's even have that they get through and it makes them more empathetic you make some kinder make some more understanding and it makes them stronger like more character even that though it's funny because you're right i mean there's part of that argument is totally through and you do see that happen a lot and then you see somebody with through the exact same thing that makes them ten it's more of an asshole yeah it's like i got hurt so i'm going to hurt everybody else seems to throw assistance diamond is like that's where you think like what is the make this one person
make a right turn and going interaction where they become kinder and nicer because they felt what it is to get hurt and what is the other one completely opposite turn and go in the direction of i got hurt so i don't care for anybody else is feeling everybody has to pay for the fed i go hard ones it's weird right it's like there's that moment where you can really make a ninety degree turn one way or another what is the make people make the choices you make it's a very good question and it could be a lot of it could be genetics i mean there apogen annex the concept that people are passing down ideas through their dna to their children is not without merit the id that your ideas that the less as you've learned in your life are not stored in your brain but are stored in every cell in your body and also stored in your genetic material that passes on to your woman who gives birth to the baby be in the baby has the genetic material from both the mother and the father mean
all that is real stuff man i mean all that is these are all absolute real possibilities and it's really incredibly fascinating the idea that we are this you know soup of possibilities what we do exist in is very strange world of so many different things being going out same time and there is something to your right 'cause that's the experience part of it all where you got some kind of traumatic experience that really changes your your make up the way you are as a as a person as a human being and it's like and at that point the kind i mean i've seen it even on myself not the i'm dealing with the try now i see how my brain has changed over the last three four years in some ways in a the way in some ways it's really not in a good way but weighs in a bad way i think i do i didn't think so
but now i'm coming to the realization that i do west some cds ptsd you know we're seeing you know my wife die in my arms wasn't quite as a whole i can deal with dates sure rationally and their stand us she tapped benson noticing that was but it did affect me twenty from level so i know how to to give an example of see that because the weight started with there is like when she got seek the first scene that was like a tiny little things i call my shoulder hurts is a big deal right is like well you went to the g manually step to much whatever right seen dad's friends for me in a matter of weeks to old man i can't move my arm anymore i can barely walk death all of that in such a short period of time now every time there's something wrong with my body i don't just think like who look at that we are like those seen tom that i'm at
in my mind immediately racist through the whole sequence and i'm like i'm going to die tomorrow some horrible terrible disease and he's like i know better right i know that that stupid and i know that that if anything that's like projecting things that are definitely not helping and if anything they are damaging and i still can't help it you know there still part of my brain that even though consciously i know it's stupid i still go there every single time there's something wrong with my body wow and so it's like man what do i need to do to change that you know 'cause he's almost like pablos dogs right is conditional responses immediately the sack on something goes there part i go with it and
you know there are moments where i have control over it and they can kind of come to this place that's because i've seen horrible sings gonna happen any moment ike actually transcended that i'm like look you have no control over anything so let's find the right here right now because what the hell knows what happened tomorrow right that's the empower empire to feet and i love it when i get that and i don't love so much the other one which is that there are off the whole something's going to happen which you know inevitably something's going to happen at some point tried to meet everybody dies everybody gets sick that's just the nature of the business but adding that in the back of your mind does that sometime our allies in the old that's a whole different game and that's part of the problem of being human being is not you're the awareness yep the awareness of your the finite nature of your existence and that the fact that it's coming in whether it's tomorrow or are you a hundred years from now it's common you know if you
some of the gonna die in a thousand years of still freak out you are sick of girls and every year passes nine hundred nine sure and and i mean that's just the you know eats but there's a somewhat the removed right in that intellectual alexi spanish along society and then there's existentialist nine deal for sort of like people who have seen the weather because of war or sickness or whatever people close to them die in horrible ways it's not just an intellectual some point in the future or something bad is going to happen is it's in the past something bad is going to happen and any second now happen that's not a fun way to leave knowing it's not the best way it's not it's not good in the sense of the word and living in the moment and being happy in the moment is very it's a it's a very difficult thing to do requires it requires discipline and it also requires that you develop like a pattern of thinking and you get that one
we're talking about with young people like they automatically start blaming the world and hating on people for whatever has happened to them i'm going to make people feel the way i feel there's patterns of thinking that you can fall into like almost automatically and if you have that pattern it's a cut groove and that groove is very easy to slip into it's very comfortable it's very simple one of things psychedelics do is pull you out of that group exactly they lift you above the motherboard and you get to see what the groove is all this is a just a pattern that i've created and it doesn't he's not empowering it doesn't even make sense yes it's it's i'm gonna live my life a disaster i'm gonna do the sixty more years of this than i am my hearts gonna stop beating and i'm going to die yeah very easy to fall into turn very easy can can happen to all of us i just going say it's very hard to reset and even
can you do reset it's hard to continue that new pattern it's like you requires great discipline and sometimes you got things down writing things down is big right now writing things now reading things positive affirmations nobody likes the idea that you go over someones house and then fucking all these things are written on the walls like today is a new day today we're going to go forth with strength and dignity but doing like that actually can can benefit can it can writing things on walls and you know having pod of affirmations can help you yeah because i mean some stuff just because you know it doesn't but you don't need to hear it again and again right right right around isaacs you know most people know all i mean if you have read books if you have been alive long enough you probably know what's there is to know you have thirty before yeah the difference he stands for mean that from intellectual knowledge into actual it's part of your being part of something that affects how you behave both the old body and amber lyon give me the
after about psychedelics multiple times now regarding the this is what you need now it's a fascinating case port she has four i have never met anybody that i gave the suggestions to like i give to her where they just fucking ran with it like she did that to change her life amber is a she's a trip is i didn't meet her before so i don't know what the before look like before she was a very rational serious journalists who is very concerned about the future of human lady in our culture and and and and journalism because she i had seen the ugly side of the beach right where she had reported on some horrific events in bahrain and when she got back and try to put together the cnn piece they instead put out this flat piece like almost the tourism propaganda video for by bahrain depending on how you say it but then
and i talked about ayawaska which by the way i've never even done i totally go do iowa that was the funnest thing of the story that amber tails is like in the middle of the triangle of about it down it and they say you know that you'll never done it right but i've done dmt right dozen times at least probably nine hundred and ten or twelve yeah something like that but this is same thing i mean is it isn't but it is i mean it's the same psychoactive substance in fact dmt the smokable form is a stronger version of by but i ask it tends to be a long spiritual trip which i thought would really benefit her you know that struggling from it right and it
where did i mean again i haven't seen them before but the after is insane i mean amherst seriously one of those people that she glows yeah every time and go out there i feel happier she's a drug you know what i mean is like being in the same room improve the level of happiness is yeah i'm amazed by her every time i'm just like are you for real i mean like i have never think of too many people that have met that are that happy well she's doing psychedelics every couple of months when she's fucking hit it so hard from the moment i met her like i guess it was like two plus years ago more than two years ago because we didn't have the studio so from that moment on when she went to the job and she went to the jungle like a fucking month after i brought it up not even less went there's even though they told her i didn't i had never done i was there she still forgot our nato of right and i think i knew that i am i to order to do it and i knew that it was the thing that you needed some
people really needs that they need to go to a place and then to experience this thing in this very alien form and it's so transfer it is because the fact you're in that place i know i mean i'm sure i could probably benefit from it but might what i like to do i mean my thing i have a sensory deprivation tank my basement so i'm i'm sort of experiencing is as removed as the jungle might be i'm removing myself from real itself on this daily basis not the that i wouldn't still benefit from it but i wouldn't subscribe what i do you know i wouldn't i wouldn't prescribe rather i wouldn't say what you need to do is get a tank filled up with water and trip your fucking balls out climbing that thing when i'm not doing right you know i have friends that come over they don't want to do the tank like i'm gonna get in there what's the scary about it i mean reality that fucking thing because they big meat
picture of reality and i need to do the more the times that i've done it i mean i've always liked it i always felt great over or no yeah maybe that's my mistake if you it's over yeah maybe the first times could do so over us now and you nine tool you know and it sure all right gotcha flook bank we ask that he's got the asterisk is very important because whatever the askari can do the astor can do in regular life it's multiplied tenfold inside of there especially edibles at a old marijuana becomes a full blown i can tell he's very much the same table with audible's for somebody's on is a lesson hydroxy tap my travel and that's what it is maybe that's the because i've tried every time i've tried edible cz there to lead the lower i don't feel it or i feel like somebody good with the biggest basketball back in the universe then just lag me across the head not pleasurable that far just like oh my god where am i what the hell those my favorite trips really
does my motto i don't think i want to happen when they're over i learned the most from them i like i like being scared because i know i'm going to be ok but i don't know i'm gonna be ok once happened i think i got when i was maybe fifteen or sixteen something like that i did this i remember making this t with ashish and we got a little carried away 'cause they were supposed to be a bunch of people doing that and you turned out to be only two of us so that those that were supposed to be for like i think it was like half a gram per person in study was two one slash two gram per person so by the time we down it an hour goes by with edibles is also messy 'cause you don't feel it right away so an hour who is buying your like nothing happening two hours goes by i'm like really nothing stillwater waste we throw that stuff away i go to sleep i wake up two hours late and i'm just like who am i where am i at i pass out and like
not my eyes again i like where i'm at and i'm out in the next six hours goal like these where i basically lose consciousness seventy thirty seconds and i with cop would days well my or am i thinking after that i was like yeah i don't think i'm doing to by the end of it even the other times that i've done it was old ways not quite that bad but close and i'm like yeah i don't think it boats are are meant for me well is there so many religions that have cannabis and cannabis eating as the base of religion hinduism there's so many so many passages in in ancient hindu scripts and like if you look up if you look up on on wikipedia you could look up the ncaa genic use of cannabis it shows all these different times where people have used cannabis as a psychedelic like not just hours with joint relax but when you eat it you have these profound vision if you eat enough like mccanna
used to say that eating like large doses of marijuana was equivalent to eating large doses of mushrooms right just a matter of having the courage you eat too much code that right yeah you never get the crazy heart fast heart rate on on edibles you can so you don't get a fast heart rate but you get this panic sense like i'm never going to sober up oh but not a physical theme pure as i felt it as a physical thing like i've done you get out like a heart where i feel my heart they're pounding where i'm just like jesus i'm going like one hundred and twenty beats per minute or something which we are not doing exercise that's a bit much i bet it's anxiety that probably is that probably is 'cause it brings on a lot of anxiety oh yeah heavy duty edibles make you really reconsider it's it's very difficult to live in the moment on heavy duty edibles 'cause it forces you to examine problematic aspects of your past behavior assuming you'll steal
even aflou cdt 'cause they're really ties have just like i'm not examining up not accept in the table if i don't know where i am so yeah you can go too deep and under with long ago with the the you know the extremes on all oil though yeah yeah which supposed to be great for hamilton d'abbadie singing and you know the thing with the all is that unless somebody's preparing it for you in capsules or something it's such a gas work of trying to figure out which one is how many drops you put yeah so i've done it where i take a tiny date and i feel nothing and i'm assuming it's healthy but whatever i'm not feeling anything and i take a tiny bit and one day i take a tiny bit plus my new school tiny micro drop more and i'm like hitting the tree is right i'm just way out there and i'm like whoa what's also who's making those things in stores it did not being made in the place where they make tesla's yeah that's part of the part of the problem when that's why
read itself you know when it's the plant you can kind of figure things out when you're smoking get you can sort of feel it's going and you can stop it edible sees you take an hour later you're in for a surprise to see what it's like i was listening to this radio show the other day where people are complaining about marijuana being stronger than it was when they were kids like this guy in his 50s who just recently tried marijuana again and he was talking about how overdosed dosed on marijuana and is ready to go how do you expect i almost went to the hospital i mean i barely got through it and you can overdose on me was like going on like about the pot today rush is danger shut the fuck up what do you toys like that if someone can go on the air and say something like that's bullshit so it's it's not just like you could put a bad thought
someone's head and i really believe they could die from it unless they have a computer people o ever never how much the first one i wonder if the first one to die oh shit i wanna fuck it well for everybody else want to be the first one and i think there was a guy who who died in colorado 'cause he jumped off a roof and they were trying to get rid of edibles cousin one fucking dipshit jumped off a roof but he and then to think is every single substance it's out there is even the more tell water if you drink too much water you can die from it right i mean it's like everything is how you use it with using it what's the count every tool cars everything skateboards every is he losing i mean if we if we based
what kills you you know with what's illegal we would literally make everything and we all yeah courage is the number one right computers people died from using a beauty computers a blown up on people right and they've died right cell phones have blown up and those pockets and they've been gravely injured women had died from a cell phone let's find out let's exploding cell phones i'm going to say yes i'm going to say killed by cell phone while you're finding out about the cell phone let me take care of them tiny mound okay okay don't answer the call while charging urban legends man takes woman cell phone after she's killed by train wow it's dark and killed by cell phone explosion the let's see gizmodo man hold myself an explosion a korean man was apparently killed by his lg cell phone today and this was by the way in two thousand and seven they probably got old shit back then
he was carrying the phone in his shirt pocket when exploded puncturing his heart and lungs it happened north chung chi on province of korea as the man was working on a construction site he was found dead by one of his coworkers wo as parents kerr his family got some money ladies was north korea yeah south korea korea is a korean man north chungcheong chung this is korea it doesn't say n or s koreans assuming it's s korea yeah it is in north korea i think there about two hundred and fifty two years away from seeing fonts yeah this is yeah no kidding right poor that's like the one of the craziest things about two thousand fourteen do we still have a real live communist dictator running an entire country that's terrified of this little goofy chubby
moon faced motherfucker was the son of another goofy charlie moon faced motherfucker yeah it's like that just yeah our denies this guy i mean six that should really belong to the middle ages near like really question you'll do windisch it's come on yeah where and a one and you know you see you man at and we are so damn advance that we are doing these amazing sayings and on the other end where the wind steal the same she to know where to win two thousand this isis geyser the release videos on youtube too graphic horror rific videos on you tube and they don't get cold until like we weeks later find out about them like i don't know how like a video gets pulled from youtube someone has the flag and i guess yeah in like maybe they're only sending it to the people that they know or whatever and it'll survive awhile before but somebody put something up
check this out and i i went in and she clicked on a link and i was like jesus is on you too bye now these guys shooting each other at the six shooting these guys while they're on the ground and cutting their heads off like all very very graphic because like i can't believe this is i use on their stuff out there to make steel i've seen what are the most disturbing scenes of ever seen was these one thing in like somewhere in africa or somebody suspected i mean we chess and so they do not set them on fire and yeah after awhile i was like you know what what the hell am i watching noon on over you know i know we tap and so i don't need to see it in it's not it's it's like a video straight out of the thirteen under its or something now in two isn't thousand and fourteen is all the progress that we've gone through to get to this point in age and there's still some people that just you could take them you could shove them back zero year zero and they would fit right in yes it's both it's is that thing going on with human beings man that spectrum that the the broad spectrum of behavior it
it almost seems like you have to have like shitty people to appreciate the good people like i wonder if there's ever going to come a time there's a legitimate biological utopia where like human beings like with a rich leave some form of an it meant where everyone has reached the dust age you know i were talking about like the atheism plus like they rattle this onto themselves but they should no they're all fucking edge dated and going to conferences and stuff like that it's like they're preaching to the choir essentially or oping themselves up on a nice moral high ground in front of their peers but there's going i'm a time where the whole world is like that right is that possible that would be and and i get you know what you're saying about you need the bad people quote there should the good people eve there is a general improvement of humanity going in a more pleasant direction we don't need the bad people just
the dv ds are showing us what this is what the bad people experiences like and then you know really make very they have a lot of empathy so you watch movies and you get almost like dicks pier without that he actually to deal with its because the whole rationale that you've been here are ready just about all you need to evil in order to operate the glued to i think to what degree man because we talk about human history there has been so much evil there is like really i could actually do with one one hundred that that we learned a lesson i don't need to learn the same lesson over and over again in such brutal nasty fashion yeah there's something about the design off you when he study or nature for a matter because as you say multiple times i mean when you look at your wrist like it's not s soft fuzzy happy animals running around the forest is brutalities fangs and close on the whole thing going to take yeah maybe fritz about appreciating the good stuff there would be a gentler way to go about it do we really have to go to these hard
court will make it happen yeah nature is the most vicious mod soccer ball my friend was tell me about watching this bear will this female bear he was watching his grizzly bears they were serving them and this mail was trying to mate with this female grizzly bear in the grizzly they didn't want to make with them she kept pushing me off and yelling at him and he kept trying so hard to get her to mate with them but she didn't want to do it right and then a new grizzly bear a new female came into the picture and the new female came into the picture and started trying to him to mate with her right and he got angry that she was distracting him so he murdered her in front of the other days just tore her apart for aflac just ripped or shreds and he said it was the craziest thing because all the sudden this bear had its feet up in the air and it was just dead like within seconds like a few said integrated wandered into the camp you know or into the
little valley with these bears were and i tried to get this bear to make any yeah he's a biologist right he was you know observing this stuff or it is not a biologist who works a biologist and who is observing this stuff and he said it was one of the most disturbing thing he's ever seen in his life he's a hunter he's lived his whole life hunting and you know death is a normal natural part of life to him but this to him free him out more than anything we've ever seen because he said it was so brutal and it was so instantaneous you know it's just really crazy you ever did i ever tell you about the rapist necrophiliac docs docs i didn't tell you about the rapist necrophiliac doc something so i have to tell you god so cutely
docks they are adorable i remember seeing docks being bar naturally now the fanatic and i'm like i never et nega gained and a you know i'm averaging docket gain poorly told you know you got into these romanticize a cute suffice z thing right right and then i start reading about docks that upbeat and fleet mail docs are particularly fond of three pin female docks and and but this is where it gets interesting so they go i'm sure maybe you have seen them in this super high speed chases where the female is running and there's like two or three mail run flying right behind our and in during this high speed chases occasionally the female techno turn an she crashes into something a tree or a window or something and then she to break her neck and die immediately but you know body still alarm so the one wannabe peace dock some for sweets aside how would the house we don't want to waste the is so and they just got on and have sex with the bad corpse after that i'm like
facts are back on the menu mother fuckers caused you guys are mean and horrible and not going to each you again maybe they should show that all those people that are trying to keep you from eating fog wah right weird thing that california has california has a law you're not allowed to eat duck liver but you can eat ducks yeah 'cause they were force feeding does get their liver to grow on people found out to be unbelievably cruel i guess crew more than killing them right eating them like the irs feeding them to get their livers to grow larger was cruel or the killing the medium i forgot okay i mean is it you know you eat the stuff that's done in raising animal at an industrial level tend to be pretty fucked up which is why even people whine about that but they do anything related to whether you have ladder or you eat any kind of meat is ridiculous 'cause it's like hunting is a lot cleaner that way
select an animal of its life before the end of a singles commercial farming yet there some nasty stuff happening at the same time you know there are limits to all far you want to take it because there is there are not too many simple clean painless easy ways to do things that still deliver the goods that people rely on so it's a very that's why is the same thing is that we were saying earlier any kind of dogmatic position about these either the schedule cause they're just here for to use and who cares whether they suffer horribly ordered the poorly tell bond yes you can mention anything that they are both three colors right they i'm appointed they're both three d because if they can too far have you ever seen the video of woman she walks into a restaurant and tell everyone in the restaurant that what they're eating is is not food it's violence no and she she goes and tells everybody about her little girl i want to tell you about my little girl and it's chicken she's talking to her name is snow have you seen it have you seen it jamie
out let me find it for you we should play it because it's just so ridiculous snow that's not food it's violence are you done kid we can we can we can end this and next time you come by i'll my daughter the otters and we'll have a little party they come rant goes viral this isn't food it's violence pull this up and then will you see with bill cosby did yesterday i hear there our lord if you don't know what's going on about bill cosby bill cosby very careful of phrases allegedly has raped a large number of women and a allegedly has drug these women and i mean hi fi
hard to believe that thirteen women would make something right that's a large number and i do have to be some massive conspiracy dating back to the 1970s is just now being uncovered so he put this thing and website yesterday like me may go ahead and meme me with a photo of him and the meme being the the print the you can add a meme generator and his said happy monday and these people just crazy i mean it when it got so ugly one of them was like one of the first one was like more than a dozen women have accused me of rape how can i hear you say no he's got like headphones on what do you mean you're pressing charges i mean it's these are the mild ones but i mean what was he thinking fucking idiot what the hell was a singer a lot of people believe
someone who works for him did it on purpose really yeah that someone who works for him knew there was going to like someone who is like a website designer yeah we got i think like website design and a lot of times younger people in maybe even a woman you know like it was like this fucking piece of shit and working for or a guy of sympathetic to what going on and says look how do i get this far that would actually be genius that's what happened that's great i mean they put a bunch of them that were like really cute right here on his website like they they took some of the ones that people have created that were pg rated but the amount that where rape related was so staggering well of course i'm yours let's see fit like in the news what's as being from like one of word about him in the news over the last year has been this story right so it's like of course that's what's going to pop up of course that's what's going to happen
and no one is press charges is like i wonder how you could 'cause it seems strange you know it seems like like if you don't have the physical evidence like but you have thirteen people telling a similar story i wonder how that works the pencil to from a long ago it is yeah because that's the old statue of limitations are staunch limitations on rape time is it and i i think it is i think it is i think isn't that would save that seventh heaven guy that's exactly what is right this is a statue of limitations always dead wiser statue limitations on something so horrible it becomes tricky to be of course once you wait to report it it's all physical evidence is gone and then y you have to rely on a lot dinner kind of evidence that's a lot harder to make the case there's also that the thing about memory that we discussed earlier that
human memory is one of the worst pieces of evidence you could ever get there are people that i have had experiences with where doug hey member we did this and did that and blah blah blah i'm like we don't have reason like what are you talking about i was never going there with you no you went with us like listen man never been to south dakota right stop like it didn't happen or they remember the wrong stayed i mean people's memories are fucking terrible they're awful do you have this video will play this and then will give her a chance look at she looks he's done we did like an hour and a half that's all good you gotta see this watch this video please put your headphones on so you can hear this but it is not plugged in anymore capacity of course hold on a second give it a chance she yank it out it will just play this and then we'll end it this this is so ridiculous this woman walks in this restaurant and there is a whole group of people behind her
she walked into a restaurant people are eating she was very abused for her entire life she was terrified she has a very determined look in her eyes wherever she goes and she was hurt and with her entire life because of this establishment and because of establishments like it she was locked away she was hidden she had nobody there for her she was crying she was scared every single moment and because they're useful they've had run out she was going to be killed and i think these smiling and i can see you laughing but to her this is not funny i went in there with other humans i took her out of there anyway she wouldn't be with me right now she would be god look like all of her sister just like every
call you today girls with everyone who they just wanted to live too and right now their eggs and their milk in their bodies are on planes inside this restaurant chicken have dominique people that are there yeah and every time you see some meeting somebody else who's eggs or somebody else's body you were going to remember her name her name is snow she's a beauty little girl just wants to live it's violence
this is the best part they all come in and they all have a sign like it's not just to say it they have to assign a hole of a sign my name these me and pathetic people that are just so lucky their ancestors ate meat to get them to two thousand and fourteen ideal just little kids i love out video that you have the team that was it that they've gas in the back i'll save my go let his old bad loans but it's a crazy she has a determined look in her eyes no no she doesn't okay never changes a chicken god damn it crazy lady one of the my favorite videos ever yeah she's just so bonkers i see you smiling gee wonder why we're smiling may because you're kind of crazy you're walking in
a chicken restaurant with more people in james right is more people came with her they were in the restoration she was too caught at like two in the afternoon some off our right thank you this is so strange but she's little girl just it's determined look at her i wherever she goes and she just want to live and people are eating her eggs guess what my chickens eggs and they don't care at all you know why because the eggs don't become a chicken and fucking dunce i think he just hangs would you have chickens you can have chickens as pets they provide you with free protein right you give them food and they give you protein that doesn't hurt anybody doesn't harm them they have checking the lay eggs every day right this idea then there milk no no no there's no chicken milk never seen shit even there is a stay away from it is that's bad field breast feed but you know that the spectrum that's the spectrum i mean is important in understanding of nature's important i mean
and i've been accused especially lately since uh oh the last couple of years since i started hunting of being cruel of doing it as you enjoy killing animals i don't at all i mean i i enjoy hunting i enjoyed bring home the meat i actually i think that the killing of the animals the worst part of it the fact that you're able to take an animal at a nature though like in the most natural environment possibly if i didn't exist then animal would be doing the exact same thing until i came along there was no influence whatsoever on its life and then also boom it ends which is going to end by wolves it's going and by whispers were i was i was up in canada where they have a they have so many wolves up there they have no limit on how many wolves you can shoot serious yes we get away published you properly some problem huge like they have elk they have here they have moose and wolves are just killing them left and right well we
there we actually came upon we saw all these ravens that floating around this one area so we're trying figure out what it was they were attracted to so we went over and we found this moose calf that had been torn apart by wolves this is the moon calf i'll put it up on my instagram later so you guys could sleep is not going to be able to see it so much left with this oh it's just choose mangled it was crazy and it was wolves wolves it taken it from from its mother right and they just figured out a way to get ahold of it and just ripped apart of course devoured it and his hair all over the ground everything that the reality of that life is the wolves get it and then what's left the coyotes get that and then what's left on any other scavengers get that that is am much more likely death and by hunter the hunter death is the least likely yeah absolutely i mean that sense again to me is like everything
he's going to die as long as you're not doing where you are wiping out a species and as long as they are not doing where you are adding unnecessary pain to the process then that's the nature of the base well what this woman is doing by running into that restaurant and so it's not food it's violence like you kind of you're missing the whole point you're missing it's not violence it's there ending life so that you can eat it and yeah it's kind of a crazy way to do it because we're detached from you're right about that yeah but that's it like a shitty communication strategy 'cause i'm sure she can have part of a point is that right because there are issues of we commercial farming that are nasty terrible but you know there's a way to communicate to to where you are i would be like oh yeah right you make a good point so maybe we can tweak the law was a tiny beats to do we can a more humane way totally agree you go like these are pretty into the choir you only have like ten other people who feel the exact same way you do agree with you even if somebody is eighty percent
your way you're going to look at you and go like whoa you really went sleep well she's emotionally unbalanced and on top of that that leads people i want to kill more chickens it really does i have this guy that i'm friends with up in alaska or in a bc rather that runs this a hunting camp and he would get these death threats from people because they would be hunting wolves and the reason why they hunt wolves they had one of their cows torn apart by wolves these thirty wolves got ahold of a cow and ripped it apart where the people were in the house and they hand writes we looked out the window and they see this wolves bringing down a cow and that is crazy stuff man to look out your window and see this two thousand pound animal get taken out by this pack of wild murderous animals it's pretty it's got pretty cool but also pretty god damn terrifying and people do get killed by wolves and they certainly did in large numbers back in the day which is why
the little red riding hood the big bad wolf we don't think about that today because it's not an issue but there was many many times throughout history where wolves had killed people if you google like wolf death by people before we eradicated like large populations of the wolves there was actually a ceasefire in world war one remember that starting at the germans the germans and the russians you call the ceasefire because so many of them were getting killed by wolves they said alright let's just stop killing each other fuck these wolves up and then go back then we couldn't go back to kill each other yes that's how nutty wolves are so these these people were sending this guy death threats and he said every time you send me a death threat i'm going to shoot a wolf in the guts attract please stop sending of death threats not ever stop posting shit this woman was like i'm going to post on your page everyday if you ban me i'm going make a new name he goes ok every time you do that i'ma shoot away from the guts silence i figure that that take care of me
yeah i mean there's that really is a way of communicating where it's just like you think it's funny to see things from a hot shooting the got hot i mean there's really a way to communicate to the get the job across is like most people like to communicate in a preach to the choir item most people will communicate in a way that's not considering where you are coming from the person they are talking with right there only considering where they are coming from and they want you to feel what they're feeling they're thinking exactly only they want to force their ideology on you yeah in that sense like veganism of vegetarianism is sort of a religion just like we're talking about atheism plus is a religion right so be in a christian and so is being a mormon and you know it's like this idea it's all it's all thought process we could label it in call of religion you could label it you know calling a call to call whatever you want but it's just thought processes thought patterns that you you want other people to thank you don't want them to
to express' express themselves and you can look at it from their point of you know you just want you want them no in your right this is not food is violence no it's food it actually is food it's chick and and i'm about to eat and you crazy bear we came in with all these meek fucking the low blood sugar freaks hold of signs they can you change the world not changing shit go get a job what do you guys doing here at two hundred o'clock in the afternoon how feeding yourself do you have jobs what do you your parents put me through school that was going on here and to think there is like how many people's minds if you'd just changed by doing zero zero point zero so he's like even if you believe they one hundred percent right in your message go back to the draw i'm bored and look at that what you just did is bullshit 'cause it doesn't lead to any single person being convinced so figure out a better communication strategy 'cause you suck yeah she needs your answer the fucking elves would let her know chickens are going to die and i went to a bitch
yeah i last time i did dmt i about hunting i asked and they work whatever that's literally what they okay whatever went into and i had this this thought in my head i was like is is hunting and is it is it morally acceptable is there anything wrong with hunting no it's fine thank you you like showing me all these different things about life like look at you and i solved eyes everything does it all goes into this thing and they're showing me all these you know this fractal reality and i felt silly for asking that question i have to tell you about that my one and only dmt experience which is part funny because the entity with duncan groaned duncan is heating get that he's like seeing golden gate university has these beatific smile on his face and he's just like i said it's been i'm just like
i'm looking at him and i think you are the goofiest buster ever see that i'm just laughing my ass off but i'm not seeing you know i'd not having the same and i keep hitting it sounds like there should be and at one point i think wow my perception is changing i am begging into vision 'cause i see that duncan ceiling is all warped and weird and then eventually come down from experience and i realize that duncan cd's really just war but we are to see cecil wasn't working how it was working in the sense that he was like the biggest he was like the biggest we the high in the universe i add like big body high you know i felt the relaxing getting to the couch a melting into the couch and i felt that like everything was hilarious but i didn't know i have been you know i took as much as bank read it again he was out there you know spacing out with the creators of the cosmos and
and you were like passing it back and forth so it's like you're getting at the same time but that's what you know they do say that it is a certain percentage of people who doesn't work on an i'm sure maybe you know the next time you take one more what i'm even i mean hayes a lot he was after a while i was getting mad i was like come on man but absolutely do it we'd wear out like a smoke i'll take a hit of weed and in the afternoon or in the evening and i'm like i barely affect pleasant you know he's reading pleasant but in a very mild kind of way if i'd we before lunch i mean another you if i did it once i meant is horrible mistake with david see my like before it podcast he offered me a key that i took a heat and i didn't eat before and all of a sudden in the middle of this podcast that he's like i hear him talk and he hired his voice is coming the sentence is coming to an end and i'm just like oh fuck
i have no idea what i just don't know what i'm gonna say oh my god i could also pfannstiel me same substance one heat versus ten in another case in the tent it's also different kinds of weed too you can get ahold of some really strong stuff but that's a dmt things weird on duncan and not you yeah i wonder if maybe it's one of those things man one of those things where you have that thing where you know it doesn't work on you know maybe you know we'll find out well a little bored through the next one young lady you have amazing patients i'm very impressed with you were going to end this podcast now because you're just going to squirm yourself into you learn the keys yeah give dad a kiss me one law all right daniel you're awesome next time we do this let's do it again and we'll we'll bring my kids will have a little party with a bunch of screaming back
much more less boring i agree yeah that's why we're gonna do it alright your brother and your podcasts let people know how to get ahold of you on twitter in your podcast well that lives in my first initial daniel as a d e b o l e l ally on twitter and then a podcast he's the drunken thou waist with a t t a r o i testing if you just look up the near the bali dot com which is daniel plus in the at the end b o l e l ally that barely refers to two other singles so that would be the easy route and i'll just throw out there now i'm working on a second podcast that's going to happen at some point there's if you dig hardcore history you may the swelling weights but you know that so they are right now is on the back burner because i have to finish writing a book i have to seventeen thousand seems to take care of but hopefully by the beginning of the year something more skewed
alright man thank you brother really appreciate you coming on here and especially into tight circumstance like this will make it happen next time okay i'll bring my kids thanks so much locate party sound good and then goodnight everybody will see tomorrow tomorrow will be on with doctor mark gordon he's going to talk about a traumatic brain injury and post traumatic stress disorder in soldiers wear you bring on one of his patients want to talk about his experiences and uh hopefully we could help some other foe it's out there that are experiencing a very similar a similar situation so tomorrow much love see you soon alright you fucks that's it podcast is over that was fun i want to thank my guest danielli bolelli please check out his podcast drunken taoist follow him d bolelli on twitter and uh thank you thing you thank you to our sponsors thanks to me undies go to meundies dot com forward
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