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JRE MMA Show #10 with Tyron Woodley

2018-01-11 | 🔗
Joe Rogan sits down with UFC Welterweight Champion Tyron Woodley.
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at joinhoney dot com rogan that's joinhoney dot com slash rogan alright folks my guest today is the undisputed ufc welterweight champion of the world tyron woodley give it up for the joe rogan experience what's up man i'm chillin now you know whether you look better than anybody i've ever seen just a couple weeks at a shoulder surgery on the savage man walking around like there's nothing going on they took my savvy stem cells out of my own damn back in the dorm show me your back the hip bone right bone marrow the centrifuge mon shot into my shoulder and i should have a sling but i'm out tuesday anyway so i kind
prematurely decided to come out of the sling oh so you're supposed to be able to sling in six days yeah so no no this time i would have to say is a five days fighters yeah for about a year while yes my god really aggressive i went to doctor andrews he's out there in pensacola and he said no we need you back punching in two months old the day after surgery yeah heart surgery he said contacts too two i mean to the surgery i was doing full as rehab really like crazy so i'm like these dudes is nuts this shoulder i had this done in eight i didn't move for like three weeks which have done with that one anything clever now you hurt in this in training you hurting in fights a lot of people i don't know about me to think i just told my right hand a lot but i wasn't never really confident in my left hand 'cause i had that left labrum tear i felt weird to tow hooks and if i were to use my job a lot my show with fatigue a lot so i didn't tell
people that so i just and bomb my camera my right hand it wasn't because i was just so right hand heavy so now that i had the surgery on this one i'm going stem cell bolt shoulders rehab crap out of it and also bought this on the real machine called art wave another like a russian sounds like nuts no what is it it's like a russian stim machine that has ability to make your muscles contract five major times a second yes is sandy so a lot of people that a close use it a lot of pro athletes use it that made it in minnesota they don't give a lot of information because they don't want to answer that for stolen but they charge you like twelve to fourteen grand for the machine then they charge you i've granted show you how to use it then if you really really wonder how to use it they charge you as another five hundred million five grand so i was lucky enough hope they watching how get up to get one for my homie marclay nation play with the rams i just bought his from him and so
what is it called again is called art wave art wave arp aarp aarp which is i think the stands for advanced recovery program yeah and recovery program so basic the thing about scar tissue soft tissue ability is not like that stem that feels like the needle poking but it's like intent stem that goes through it can break their focus cards issue on go through softish in base increased blood flow range of motion so spray ankles you know one session that should be healed really yeah i'm used hundreds and hundreds of times i just had a money to buy it until recently why by using this college and so now you put this the shoulder and what you put it on your shoulder and they have like this posture so you hold this posture this position right and then they also do a balance test first because if your back is hooked up you need your balance is off then there logically it's not going to actually send current to the right spot so they may be show lower back in your shoes
so now your shoes are messed up so make it lower back hurt your not a balance test so they do that first adjust you make sure you all balance out then they found what they call a hot spot so they put at a neutral site the black pad which is like a lower back or something then wherever you the pain if i i'm feeling it right here the pain might not be coming from there so dave they search around and who about she jump out so now this becomes a hotspot now i take the other pad off and find the spot that when they do those who connect you think about to die then they're uh but they did then they do seven minutes on reverse seven so positive and then for but like i've done training calves has some severe injuries and no by whatever ever not really there's crazy so right so you're saying that like if you have something that's bothering you a lot of times or something that's wrong somewhere else that's causing that to be bothering you
and this somehow another finds that now you you balance you do a valid test first i said like a chiropractor comes in and he said oh your hips off your legs longer he had just you have to be adjusted and balanced first then they put the pads on their located hot spot so save my shoulder right for some reason i broke my wrist long time ago so i can't do like that you can push down things to see how i can get my hands been so if you get down to push up tire i'm going like this because my wrist is yeah so when i'm doing a punch special does a crazy as punch you can imagine that if i don't distribute the force properly she my forms in the store pride was because much shoulder pain also being the position in wrestling finish out overtime time time it because shock now just one punch i had damian maia with maybe there wasn't a punch that might have been the last damn straw that broke the camels back but i think were
terra from all those different years just beat my shoulder so you know so what's this guy doing here before and after it best kind of version yeah have a good video yeah right range of motion wise is is actually deceiving because sometimes you'll fuckin' get zapped on this deal you could bring your arm up at all and then all of a sudden now you like oh shoot i'm hill we should not really heal you continue to do the protocol continue to do the treatment and working range of motion if you could do it one time you feel great that's right shooting threes you're single backed up yeah so so in the damian maia fight you hurt your your show like with one of the first punch through right guys i knew it happened because i know i know it's what they call suplex or dislocated whatever so i saw opening my arms the side of his face
so i saw a left eyeball already almost closed so i said i finish to go ham on file do the punch and i felt my shorts go down and let it so then i was like i can't lose a fight i cannot do take my belt so at this point i say i'm a throw straight punches ann reaction and i see my powerpoint on material so a couple times i forgot and i threw it and kind of went out again and he took some shots and i left him up and it kind of went out again so three or four times in a fight i can fellas just go like a whole like five or six light bulb just crushing your shoulder but i had that pain before and i'm i mean it sounds stupid i'm blessed out of this one 'cause i know what it felt like right and i know that the only pain that i'm going to feel next and when i try to go that direction or any overhead right that she was going to be wrapped so when i stayed here i just do straight punches and there's a couple times i blitz it for it and i wanted to punch and i didn't punch because i didn't feel confident with my head
so you you kind of knew something was wrong he just didn't know exactly what it was i knew i knew i knew his suplex so i knew a dislocated for sure little heggeman was told that i was praying that it wasn't 'cause you can she do that slip it out without it tearing but most time when you do that as a result are these muscles fatigue in you punch it too hard making contact with your target and then your whole muscles will just kind of like the best way i can explain everything jennifer so you tried to re have it for a while right yeah right to the woods try to do may i did i did our treatment i do regular physical therapy i mean the mri mri gets him or as i have one doctor tell me that you know i didn't have to do it could one acted can care less then finally i went to doctor andrews and he was like you know what how long do you plan on fighting for and i hate when people ask me 'cause i thought until i get tired of fighting any as i well if you think you're be
fine then don't get it done but if you want to have a career and you want to be able to constantly punch he said watch a video he said you make your with your hand he said if you want to go out there and punch and be confident let me go in there and then we clean it out let me anchor it down we'll shoot some in sales and pr in there on the way out of the surgery we aggressively makes you get in range of motion and you'll be back in their position so i just today my as far four four world title fights in a year if any they deserve to touch up something they hurt in a fight is me so i decided to go with it i was so close man even always until the day of surgery i was like man i don't want to do this now you wanna dance surgery now will you still training we still throwing punches yeah i was training and what did feel like when you throwing punches mean so i got i got it i mean straight touch is a law that if i thought a straight portion i didn't turn my body over and i was just one question jim heard father up because it didn't i was shadow boxing pads in the bag
but the overhand right it was not feeling it was not a happy so shoulders are such a weird joint you know there's so much motion even now like you're going to rehab now like part of my protocols with dumbbells i can i can slice chatterbox but if i come out here i mean you can just see this either way my body is starting to get alarm i don't feel comfortable yet but you're only how many days out of surgery two weeks two weeks is nothing yeah it's amazing that you can move it i'll be back i'll be back training in a couple months wow this art machine and then with stem cells and prp it's like the world is a different place now for internet issued in two thousand and eight italian i rehab myself i took some a rehab book i had all photographs from the sports medicine people they gave me and i put them all in it together and i made my own workout and i did it religiously twice today but it's not the same somebody stretch you every single degrees every direction every plane watch
your growth in actually been a specialist i was just doing she cried i my shoulder messed up and i just started fighting when i first started i was wrestling coach for tl alvez eve hours dean thomas i wasn't really a firefighter i had a couple amateur fights but i don't know if i want to do this yet another then i have a shoulder surgeon like in man i don't know how to handle and pay for this so ganaway rooms american top team guy didn't know what the fuck american top team was he brought the satellite school to university missouri where i was he at in the gym he want to pay for our weight room wrestling team and i'm like well she let me montereina his gym and i wouldn't trade his jam and i work from four times so i can get insurance so i can get the shoulder surgery and she had after that i said let me get his fighting which are and i wasn't even i was at it i was just doing just to see what it was like but that's crazy it's crazy when you think about how successful you've been at it and i had a lot of chances to quit too broke in debt
fifty grand in debt my mycosis i can do this shit i'm right i'm a full time coach i'm negative day fifteen thirty days may i can't even for the gas when gas member of gas first hit i was gay ninety nine cent gas and all of a sudden with three dollars at the brokers point of my life as i held that so i did that and he said you know what you got a future in and he said i got a suit alone i was in graduate school he said take out a student loan so i took student loan in graduate school find my information wow finish graduate school wow that's crazy yeah it's crazy that it worked out the way it did now i'm of war chest it it worked out she i will complain about it day to try to pay me fifty grand less known being fifty grand in debt you know like tables have turned quite a bit yeah it's fascinating isn't it when we look back if you look back ten years ago
ten years ago god i can't believe i've been fighting for what is it one thousand two hundred and thirteen years now two thousand and five was my first fight wow nerds now the world champs so at this rehabilitation they said they're they're like to throw punches inside of two months and then when would you be able to like fully training they think three months three months i mean grant with this urge you can hear someone say four months you can have six months some people take a full year it is a hold a surgeon is how aggressively they push you an and why you need to give out i got a bill to defend i have money to make and i got people asking me so i gotta get back with that said i'm going i called you'll see a like this is i'm world champion i need what i'm going to do it three days a week i'm not a senior citizen i need physical therapy approved for five days away i need this game ready ice machine i need to do prp in six weeks they should want me to get back and you
they they they listen to me and say you know what he's right you know give him whatever he won't give him so he can get back and get in fighting because i was fighting extremely often for the now so you are living in saint louis yeah i got a house in saint in i'm louis here every week doing fox tmz i didn't know you different tv things so what are you doing on fox i do i'm doing your see tonight brian dcs out in training camp so anytime dc bisbee or whatever i'm usually gotta fills in well you'll see tonight you have to come out here and do that every week why no they don't license abe is me you hey dc don't watch as a mom snag a damn job the permanent out here 'cause i had a good show yesterday but i want to watch out do you like doing it i love doing it i love getting out of the box that's why you know i know we probably get into later that's why i just the company today just i'm calling her to the adam hunter had you up with the dying was a bar because i feel like acting is what i'm going to do after i get done a and if you
be okay with being embarrassed not being uncomfortable and really not given the fact become a great actor if you have the gift you going to put in the work so i've always put into work i'm not worried about that but if i got a cry college douche bag not that i'm not used to being i can be a tough guy that could be great aj you know i mean you know film is you know we can watch a film and mimic it price mimic friday you cannot tell me i wouldn't smokey i was say just like chris tucker like i was really in for the movie but he didn't have anybody to look at he had a script he had to bring it to life and you know we really critical and actors and i just want to be the weakest link everyone film so so that's what want to do when you're done with all for sure for sure videos that always been an aspiration or something you saw is like a way to do it after it's over there a lot of stuff you know i don't really even like fighting three on this yeah i'm just good at it what don't you like about
i don't like the politics behind it i don't like the martial art aspect has been taken away from it i don't like to disrespect to the guys are not really training hard they don't look the part i think professional athletes should look a certain way i really just don't like to use this generation of fighters at watching one tv we're going to try to do it they don't my drill repetitiously they don't want to actually put in the work how does that affect you though it effects me because i support is also the fans and the fans actually culture who gets to fight and if a guy's going to talk enough and so i went fly suits then this day and age that's good enough for a title shot and i think there's disrespectful to everybody came before that member that go ten and did you get the phone call from new jersey give connor item lobe often in ufc and five hundred record he's you see and i just is ways at the sport is taken a love out of it but i
find a way in wayne in my opponents taken all their tools away from them you know dean thomas out to them and duke roufus fuckin' masterminds so i take pride net take pride in going in there now i get hit did not people out whatever you say you don't like fighting you like all those things you don't like to what other people are doing i love training i don't like what i don't like the what the spurs become so this is an interesting thing to talk about because a lot of people have different review on that in one hand a lot of people like that the traditional martial arts approach of respect for your opponent and just fighting to the your abilities and let the chips fall where they may whereas people say well listen to get people to show up to get asses in seeds to get view buys this some drama in some entertainment value to it and that's where someone like conor comes in two colors only one is done it yeah well run a little bit run it it a little bit conor is done at the back
and he actually puts in the work right here she before she has an idea but he didn't hit his mouth his mom was louder he's actually s try the best at it he's he better than connor edit convert close but connor actually delivers are more than more of what he said he's going to do it in a child in our degree so if you got to think of anybody who's proud both work together best i would have to say connor knox a lot of guys i've tried to call the round he's only last a few fights total an even those fights those risk masher or fighting a guy switch to po in this note is different way class you know he seconds risk and rewards that if you lose not really that big of a deal you know just a really all my god dropping down to the bottom of the pack but other guys that haven't done it don't have the skills ain't put into work i mean it kind of really just
see the trend right there is a trend right now that it is easy so incredibly disrespectful very rude and you know you saw what happened with colby covington and you know at least we start doing he's letting meringue i mean yeah they present charges i mean and as we've well this car equipment and there's a lot of attention being placed on him now i mean let me see it's it's nicely effective let me see how much attention to me but it is effective in the moment right i mean don't want effective in stuff it's effective in a moment i'm gonna tell you why because sometimes people comma sometimes my sports is like nothing going on with life like with this kid talking she let me listen to him right right there at that point ain't connor was around it wasn't around so i wasn't around who is ufc really projected as a star sage northcutt had a few bumps paige vanzant had a few bumps they trying to push up and i know but what started today have so if you
this person is willing to go crazy even though we know as wwe to present really not getting slammed we want to live in a moment anyway we want to go for the villain who has you really be beyond even my we'll do what was out top fifteen victory well the damian maia was a big one but that was a big one but he was one but he was unmotivated and he was a guy that already had his title shot san you know he's getting then age what is really his motivation i wrote the book on how to be daily and he didn't even read the book he just do it because no part of the book say that did you jitsu guy funk you up and bloody your face club cindy there about so i didn't do that you know even but my right arm being messed up so yeah yes i'm just looking like how many followers do you have yeah thank you have a big following before that that was his biggest fight those was the big coming out on his credit on them in my eyes you gee you know i don't one is critical we but you know for you to for for me
he have some people your resume have some you know i derek military stephanie paul daley jordan minutes before i even got new ufc my first fight jaron who had only been stop by george saint pierre last one i been actually never was closed and had one every fight after that so i never had it easy fight all my guys was either former champion a content is a former you know people that or interim champions well you got a list like that you don't get the respect koscheck check condit can anyone around you don't get the respect from who from five oh my god ok that's why we understand that the respect you definitely get respect watch this when you think robbie lawler ok carlos condit right right there are different category as it were to you that i'm the champion not be both of those guys when you mean by a different category i see them in a category then this might just be me i see them is in the category is if you talking about
they're it going into hall of right and all john cash check kind in and robbie lawler and you know this guide anderson silva down all those different guys but it's funny that i have he did these guys minute you're crazy you're talking crazy i don't think so no you definitely talking crazy the champ i know you're actin like people don't respect you as the champ spec they were so nice to see about eating like that carlos condit gets more respect a runner log it's more that's crazy close kind it gets more respect to me robbie lawler gets more respect me from yeah sure even guys even guys that i defeated like you know stephen thompson these are get more respect to me i'm not gonna say that but people are willing to be like oh my god you know tell dana said tell them to get in the cage with tyron woodley is hey tire tell them to get occasional stephen thompson on the seven fight win streak not going everybody think i would've really super
style that took me months in a fortune bringing all these fucking crazy thai kwando raymond daniels all the best of the best to train to beat him right nobody gave me that pass i give know why you concentrate on that i don't but you are because you're talking about it i'm not because she knows me when you have these ninety thoughts on sony's wired through the shelling local channel tell me this is all nonsense is wasted when you're wasted energy you think when you think about that it doesn't matter to me because my path is pretty clear what i want to do i would be the best current i want to be the best what's with reigning defense undisputed ufc fighter you in two thousand and seven when there was a shift right now what what is in the middle of last year on the middle of las connor and they find supervisor that are bigger than a world title because i didn't know i know you as much they don't know you as much yet and whether or whatever look
there's a weird enigma and whatever reason why that got caught fire the way he did it's a weird combination of personality results skill lot of ireland ireland is a big factor i mean if connor was from nebraska i guarantee it was a big thing she too is not just a big cock fight country the l t and the love that those people have for the people that fight from ireland does not not there's nothing like that yes it's it's a weird anomaly so he's just weird aberration and he gives people almost like false hope of what's possible i don't know if it's possible with a lot of people just it just it's lightning in a bottle for whatever reason it worked with him but he started himself into what happened here come the jumper cables boom boom you'll see put the machine behind them right they def and it makes sense it makes sense machine behind him there was giant hordes of people fly in from ireland i remember one of some of his earlier faisal's like and i commenting on it i was saying this is a guy
who's on the undercard and they're acting like this is the main event of a paper view they've flown from ireland the audio is filled with thousands of people that flew from iron so i guess i number imagine medallion does even then it was insane when he i don't know about the you know it's funny somebody who making can like kite macgregor's is huge star another that i'm like that's when he first got into ufc and i'm like i don't even know who the fuxk it is he said he was trying to convince me now he's a superstar he did it at all and then every time i get a chance i said you are right here and then with this move again that being a superstar and he loves it they created because at that moment i think i was going to write fried onion kim and he kept on my discount mcgregor so i said let me look at his mind let me look him up because you obviously got a boner for this dude the mobile might all right he's good i get it let me see your beautiful people and in if he can be dustin pourrie then i'm down give him his props i'm not
important doesn't break all right but he's one hundred percent jeff basals yet but it's what else this is going on that's so weird is he not just legit he's also this unbelievable personality that people are drawn to him that no one can manufacture that like he's he's rehearsed at he's practice that he looked in the mirror he has natural with he's he's in the goal risky and say some below to bill share and he this is research you don't come in a press conference just you know smoking you like the front row of a comedy show he looking into some deep shared when you get there you kind of stumble so you're right he has that he also has my he also has so happened to do eighty percent of shady says you can do so now he's the funking messiah right but you can't say
the ufc is not gotten behind you or people don't give you the respect you deserve that's why you're not in the same level as you say that but you said that him and connor or super fight i'm saying that he has gotten it and he said that he had gotten it and he has lived to what he said he's going to do in the top of that you gotta you gotta be able to fight and he can fight he's been able to talk so now i'm not only generate the pay per view buys to get people interested he's actually going to deliver of but again josie otto of stop as he gets eddie alvarez in a crazy you know back to back fights we would need but don't you think that you're in an unusual situation first of all because you win the title by spectacular first round knockout against robbie lawler right under evil knockout but then we have the most awkward and difficult guided defend your title against yeah wonderboy thompson is a very unusual opponent and it's hard to look good against him and at all all the people that fought him your
the only guy that put him in danger not once but twice and the way you fought him i've and the way you fight a many times is they look if you look at tactically if you look at technique and you look at the the art of fighting that's the way to find him if you're a guy like tyron woodley a powerful punch it was a great wrestler who's got one real one punch not going to open yourself up wonder boy in russian either exactly don't get picked apart you're not going to i him the way he wants to fight we did as you laid back a lot and people booed a lot because of that but when you connected you were the one that heard him in those two fight he was the one that was in big trouble in both of those fights not you his file was it was it was not for me i'm never know i got the same thing into my a fight but at the end of the day if someone's attempt take you down multiple times over twenty times it's
to get in any type of change every time you swing to one one shot to gather my fight was tough to have because your injury but you got to go back and look we could like anderson silva's dark days there was a dark days when did anderson silva fought damian maia where nobody want to have anything to do with him after that file anderson silva fight when he fought several fights where he had just boring results and people weren't interested in him fighting anymore one spectacular knockout and everybody's back i will give you one spectacular knockout to get the belt and then everybody slow we forget about it moments later 'cause at the time stephen thompson said no where the fight robbie and i think he's going to win anyway and not at all and then the thing i'm supposed to be just so graciously like god that's fine the honor and not you want to fight robbie right you see rob who's going to win you say you personally prefer to write what fight rob because i've been waiting around you know that wasn't the case so you set this up so
i don't think that i'm just going to give you my spotlight and say hey you know what the others do this know if i'm in a table been set i know there is no a d is out there take the is out there you are same peers michael biz means god to have the name they have status that i'm trying to get you those are the guys i want to fight i want to knock those guys down because now i can continually each myself up fighting him while he's trying to get the same thing i'm trying to get white help pull you out with me if that's the fight they wanted me to fight with one they never offered me the fight he said something then the ufc thought i will take the files the first time they offer me if i accepte it so when all if you like oh my god you don't want to fight trying to pick his fire that he just got the belt unless you so weird you listen i'm talking about too many people saying things that you're responding to that are irrelevant i think is the people that there are in the organization i got it you know you're
the people that i don't deal with that in in that regard but as far as like people that are analysts and experts auto and it is far as of like those social media like i really don't read social media good i post because i want to post and i live alone so that's what i said and i'm not saying what san who it is i'm not saying that the fans are making me feel some type away 'cause my my path is clear i want to be the greatest welterweight of all time brian whatever it takes when i get opportunity i'm trying not to out okay at all times stephen thompson his can type of fight as you say before look what happened robert whittaker russian look what happened when this guy right yeah those guys that people are getting killed with it forget it forget all this yet and also realize how tough it is to take him down and get the cage remember how fast he pops up so why not give myself thirty one foot then if i want to double check i got the whole place to stretch across some blacks among you don't have one point scale power so even if back is against the octagon when i go for a shot i got the whole entire i forgot to take them down versus pressing them go for the takedown him and the
age or both defending my shot and then try to you know do some razzle dazzle so no issue with the him or damian my a i don't think there's another way to fight him that i'm less and i love you or another i did i did hear he did take my a series he train the way he didn't bring in the top jujitsu jitsu guys like whiskey is it a spartan kick box and look good and never had to take a shot actually i put myself in positions i know i'm never going to be in you never going to take me down never going have my back i'm never going to be mounted but i'm training to ship anyway just in case savannah bananas can i get clipped with a punch so george mas it just went away i washington fight he was surprised even the stuff that steven thompson hit me with never surprised me i got would it heal and uh some good shots he's really quick i mean i'm as a disposable he's quick those once get to you fast he's long and are bouncing you don't even know what the hell they going to do on what are you about to do what do you about to do you can
watch his performance until he didn't do the proper work same thing with me my heat will call me like trying to take me down stop the shot and just knock you out that's not how it works you got to bring in guys that know his half cart how hooks ankle holly sweets how this is from one side to another what happens grab around your waist if you give him his back that's how you can lock up i travel guide i'm with him and the guys would have the day we my on a map that way i got out there had it taking me down out of been prepared get away get back to my feet do you think that having a chip on your shoulder in some way helps you like all these people now you in some way you have to prove yourself you know that others that down the best like you meeting with china one day and i stopped practice and i just had a brain fart i'm thinking about your saint pierre and i something about all those skills and something about robbie and all the top welterweights and i said i'm the fucking best in the world nobody asked me nobody stronger than me work as hard i do nobody has all
the skills to striking the wrestling did you get sued the defense of timing the explosion that uh since i've been in wars i've been in close fights i've been in fights or not people out i've been at also one i decided that i'm the best iso i carry myself as if i was already to champ and that's why i had champ camp before i even had the belt it was when was this around like which fight right schitt robbie right before right before robbie i was supposed to not champ camp actually supposed to start with will johnny be johnny had some complications that make it to the scale so they told me i was fighting robbie yeah i remember talking to you backstage one day at one of the way ends and you were frustrated and you were like when the fuck am i getting my title shot well that you know that this is a thing the game changes and sometimes they want to see i slid out before they make a call dad never want to be an alliance and you are definitely getting a title shot right
a couple times and what happened right and they pulled out so i kelly gallon gasoline was supposed to be this condition if rican he miss way by ten pounds in you know for me i don't like this you don't act like you so signal you didn't make weight and why happens when you don't make way you actually didn't have to go through and suck your body all the way down to scratch wait like i did so you should actually look better so i don't want to go he was sick and that's why you know he had a chance he just never going to beat me a bottom he was the one that was huffing and puffing he couldn't hit me couldn't land any significant punch i landed and after that fight you know it was some screw go to file my okay you made a grapple with him so you can try to take my back the renegade everybody else you want exchange with him and let him get into the fight when i know i'm faster than normal sharper he can't hit me i got better defense all the time he's pushing me against the case i heard score said no no no don't go there don't go there is terrified
the car shack thing was going to happen to him so he backed up every time he pushed me to ox nard while when i play on that you know maybe so when people look at that he was said that he was going to get a title shot i'll never remember that they said it gasol be tire to will get a title shot people saying that they were saying that they weren't saying that they didn't say the tennessee dinner white said if kelvin gastelum beast tired he's getting a title shot remember he had already been coach selected for the coach he got the coaching about the loss after missing way by temple and they told me he would never fight at one hundred and eighty five again if i talk to fight let me one hundred and seventy again if i took the fight so he'll ostomy sway still got the tough coaching job and on top of that he was going to but i wish i had he beat me but why do so again it comes to this chip on your shoulder thing you feel like everybody is against you know you do a little
i don't really want me to the no you do this what if what you're saying so things that you sent us and i'm just saying that i know i know the i know the deck of cards i got and i'm not a play the stack already the deck of cards ours is going to come a moment when i'm a superstar when is it a moment i have more leverage at this time i'm not at the point we kind of mcgregor's at so i got it if i find the number one contender and i can vouch how to find a george same pierre or is being or conor and nate at this moment i'm going to keep asked at get that but have to do georges beaten right now george is in an amazing position right george beats bisping if he wanted it he dropped the title but if you wanted to come back and fight you for the welterweight title that's a legitimate superfight right there i mean that makes a lot of sense you they just want to coming off of his big fight you don't think he does look you tell maine the you think faith george george had the chance to fight me before bismi he chose a vibe is me or maybe he felt like
is it better for him to come back with is definitely better fire 'cause he woulda came back against me looking like that george would be right back in retirement he did not look great visiting didn't look great one thing that helped george and a his experience he loosened up is a little tight you know he had been an octagon before years almost a little over two yeah little mystery right now is it for almost four it wasn't quite far it's almost four 'cause i november i thought november you'll see the twenty fifth anniversary i think you're right i think it was like full of all kinds the card yeah for a long time so he for him to not fight that okay how she sure us in enough i you have a training camp focus on a person is tough when he came back i saw experience cake he relax a little bit that's when he faked heading out relax i mean you know who knows would have happened you know right yeah it was uh
it was interesting because bisping was tight and i expected i expected him to be looser big this doesn't have the guys out but he's not a guy that you thinking you like a run boy origami or myself or someone shot or stevens jeremy stevens somebody is going to touch you in is over with like i said he's a he's a person that's going to be volume he's going to be in your face great conditioning he's very durable an george had to make that adjustment he said i can be an athlete on this guy we take him out and get him thinking about the shadow took him down twice then we get him thinking about it level changes come look very smart move and that's something that the experience of being champion allowed him to do well there was some talk about him fighting conor but i didn't hear any of that from the official people and and him fighting at one hundred and seventy pounds would have been fascinating it's in terms of like it's a terrible for connor you know in terms of like just physicality once again risk and reward what happened to the greatest welterweight of all time
yeah a lot of people going to torture him about it another fight right now like this is not a good time especially in his division there's so much talent like right now thank you thank you wanna see he'll be right now that's what i'm saying that's why you think you think you think i mean tony said if i was connor which i'm not if i had to pick a fight they're both are going to be hubby be might be a bigger draw cuz you got it huge huge one hundred and forty some million people in russia might be draw but they both are very annoying fights very dangerous it's dangerous tony ferguson you know i don't mushroom and find a way to get around your neck and choking he's always tired he doesn't get tired he looks like he's losing fights and he don't care as striking is very awkward we can really do an ideas did to connor nate diaz definitely gamma hate you with everything you still around the economy for the damn shot
somethings gonna happen if we do that tony tony's going to submit him here's my prediction my prediction counters and fight for awhile he watch those two things trip am they strip conner he by me habeeb and tony fight for the world title for you you guys are in the car right now but for you know she had so much rain what's your dream to work to be honest is you know my dream was to really i wanted to find yours anne i feel like possible i feel like if i fall george i can legitimately i'm the best welterweight of all it's still possible retired how has said anything about you he one time on like fox kewene where he was going like so tired and if you thought would be your game plan you know if you follow us but they got x out because they don't want to get all the fans pumped up they were fighting why wouldn't they
do you think that plotting against you serious senior faith joe he is not going to do that soon be i am too bright with you want me to be like out the people against me listen i forgot you to just be focused you want me to be real yeah sure maybe well sure do i think that people want to see me lose not i don't think they want to see me though so i think that amazon pain in the yeah i am but in business at one point in any this is not the person is doing the business now what they best interest so if i'm an athlete and i'm looking out our best instruments and i'm trying to put myself in a position where you know i can i become a legend come hall of famer i should do that i want to be paid appropriately i should do that in our sport you do ideas he started damn you have see
we do what we say and that's it no questions you find who we want to fight you get paid we want to get paid and that's it and then what happened the specialist the one trick ponies stop then collision athletes are getting in their college wrestlers kenny florian guide them almost about being a doctor at one point so they got intelligent people coming into the sport they just so businessmen entrepreneurs so now i'm looking at market value i'm saying with these the fact is megan and guess what we making this if they're making that if i'm going to i've this person doing this i should do that no one everybody's making all the numbers to be at least fair i don't ask me no crazy i don't know fifteen million and all this other stuff so we doing that makes me become difficult then i guess i'm just a little bit difficult but let me let me look at it from their perspective what they look at in terms of an athlete is worth is like how much are they bring it in like what kind of pay view buys you get
this is your home is just what i always bring it in with the first off i'd worlds he was making nearly as much money back then but how much is everybody has to start a certain way you can't but you can't throw you out and say ok if i wonderboy ufc blah blah blah and if you don't do five oh well you did three hundred three hundred thousand dollars you're not a draw okay those are promoted as a champion how was it is a long circuitous sort of a conversation if we continue along this way but what i'm trying to say is there sure is a messy where there's a way fifteen dollars it's like a circular it's sort of a thing you know circling back around to it what i think is as a way for if if you want make a big super fight like george saint pierre really want to make a big super fight in ufc wanted to make a big superstar out of you that's the fight because one things happens either once you receive and he's even bigger than ever or you beat him and you become bigger than ever let's do it that's what i'm saying to fight that makes sense but that's that's
sense knows trying to stop that from happening when the ufc is not willing to pay a certain amount of money it's because they don't you're going to get a certain amount of money it's not because they're trying to avoid getting paid if they thought that you be some enormous superstar they could make conor mcgregor type money from you there's not i would never say we don't want to do that because we don't give tyrone power they don't think like that they think like their numbers people they're trying to make paper view by and if you only sold three hundred thousand pay per view buys because the wonderboy fight how much they can do about that i mean it's not whether or not you are promoted a certain way as a fighters like that fight for some of like me is fascinating but for the average fuqing any lunch box i want to see blood type person that's not but the heavy use of our our tax about before the fight takes place right but so this style they knew the new the match up and especially the second time
because was it was it was the fight the fighting night on the biggest card of ufc history you'll see two hundred and five in madison square garden according to them it was the best fight of the entire car so that was the best fight was fine is that because he got the war to fight of the night yeah yeah this is so you can get a bonus that right i mean it and when you look at the the fights in terms of like if you could have a a card where there isn't a lot the fights that aren't entirely significant and that would be the fight of the night i think there's anything wrong with that fight i've told you before i like that fight but it seems as if you have seen the people that are cash any checks that they deem 'cause they don't want to decision mundane and whoever if they say that this fight was a which means you get more money you get more come more bucks but think about this how different was the second it was really kind of the same fight pretty much the same so how is that fight fight at night and in a very exact for the fight few months later is born fight get it what happened it was said it's born
uh if you says born the worst says born in dennis this is born the world's going to say is born so well i never said it was not going to say i say if you look at the result after the fact people might say that if you do what happened during the fight you might say it's boring to watch again but watching it i was not boring at all because the consequences are so grave it's one of the things that i pointed out if the boy up he's going to sleep if you you up you're going to get kicked in the head like anything can go wrong in that fire debris david didn't say it was a boring fight what he said was man that way the way you let go of him in that period you know why don't you do that every time there is i said dana i said i let go is because i see it opening yeah when i see it opening you always know me to go tell me one time i see an opening not went and now i had somebody heard i'm not trying to finish it don't you think that does just frustration for someone who's not fighting who says things that aren't logical to you as a guy who's
champion who is fighting it's these are but as people say it is digital but his damage in when mister president right when the president says it especially yeah the cultish following whatever he is going to go if they say damian myers born every and then our english anywhere if you say tire woodley demian maia all my god that's fucking fight was boring somebody going to probably damien my oh my god that fucking fires born they're not even change a word that's what we have so as a champion an the position of being supposed to being promoted at that place it becomes damaging so now how are you come back and say ok tyra's back is sore fix you want to fucking most devastating guys out there knocking working at all but then minutes ago you just say he was born i mean it is very hard ok i see what you're saying we're talking about two different things we're saying is you feel like the way they talked about you after the fight was damaging and shows respect
and also not accurate in terms of the it's a quinces of your actions in the fire and nobody and nobody came to its like damn you know i had to find out is more of a good or is god in labor in the first round and he still give a one damn didn't dance get touch at all an entire five maybe push to a three times total and that's kind of close some of what get he was half the strong you would like to hear no i don't want to hear anything because i want to fight so you're saying you said i'm saying i'm saying that i'm saying it was a choice made to say one thing right but g but it also lies off the cuff right and that's always been the thing about him but but is also you can also fly the coffee in the other direction you can also say hey this person is fuqing next superstar oh my god and god knows crazy oh my god cody garbrandt sucking demand on my paige vanzant this alma may cesar that you can say that was happened did do million followers two million followers and that makes a big difference but
it can happen to you at any moment you are frustrated by the reaction to three particular fights the two wonderful you definitely do you want me to be down fella i know what i want is i'm working like i know you are and i'm not fresh i know you are under a lot of you are you obviously are unhappy with certain things and unhappiness stems from the result of three fights but if you look at one fight before that the robbie lawler fight i mean everybody was talking about you like you were the most devastating thing of all time the fact that you were able to do that the robbie lawler yeah all you need is one or two more fights like that everybody forgets about damian maia what happened you want me to press right it's up now i don't well let me tell you i definitely don't i'm really not frustrate him alone now you cool guy i see i'm not frustrated i just know my deck of cards and i'm had a very thick layer of skin and i'm very i'm very who i am in my brain now when you look at the division write your check
you're the top of the food chain what do you see in front of you like what what threats what would fighters do you think or present unique challenges well what do you think is next for you if you just forget about the super fights well showing i think the deck needs to be shuffled i think when i come back when i come back on i'll take that back roseman is don't he's freaking he's fighting again tomorrow since march and that man he's a guy that a lot of people are not talking about some stress for for a lot of reasons and i i'm okay to talk about it because you know i've always been honest he's very tough he's a good style match up for me to present a lot of challenges wrestling is very strong he started to come along with his hands and i would like if i'm a fight somebody in this it also number one container ship ship i want to find somebody i respect somebody like rta somebody like who smith till pots these dudes are these the savages and you know not to sound cocky i think my toughest challenges are behind me then
as condit and lawler in at the time akashic was almost a few fights so you know way george and you know those at that moment those this was in a lot of problems koshek had the same overhand right just a little bit different wrestling great chan recondition condition a lot of experience you it was from robbie lawler was a fighter year back to back the craze as far as we have a saying for the live hang it open and he leaned in do have to walk through the boogeyman at the time so for me to get bubble guts nobody don't that power that name idea when he knocked me to hell out i've never at the heart again in my life you think colby covington push me and make me like went and back up now look how you punishing maya those are as you so if you don't have a going great resin defense great condition and power in your hand you just give me butterflies well i think for sure you have accomplished some great things and fought some amazing fights against some very dangerous challenges mean
no doubt about that no one could deny that those fights you did just talk about condit particularly robbie lawler josh koscheck in his prime amazing fights great results but talk about lose we talk about rda you talk about darren till you talking about also put show amazing fight so great you know i think there's a lot of out landing opportunity and i think your division is one of the most talent rich divisions in the sport yeah i'm not just creating it i think that i'm always uh or they can do so the two dog i didn't sneak up on me neither still in advance you saw him i'm gonna tell you how to do this right point in time it was brandon thatch it was erick silva it was the it was stephen thompson brandon thatch a silver kind of doing away gasol when not fought me stephen thompson went up so now
these the darren till the awesome and all those guys they are in the same pool so i'm always thinking about training i was talking about fighting these guys always game plan for these guys before they even come up at some point i don't have right everybody 'cause they got it going to cancel each other out if his five studs on my walking to three of them i gotta be ready damian maia wasn't a surprise i uh demian maia or so my somebody i fought in my manager was like do i even if i did and i am a suck such a beason this is this is this and i'm like i know this on paper write me down as much of a match a minute vision right now ok even when ellenberger was a stud and was fucking wrecking people because his power his wrestling and his condition him and johnny hendricks also would have been a threat what guys where i shot a fight and then we give johnny hendricks firm champion down so i so i was going up against the us carlos condit still today might be my favorite fighter
so now watch his video i was getting bottom like motherfuck good i was still in his techniques but what happened when i fought him did he look like the same quality kind he looked at now i punched him he looked like a rat he will snatch him across the across the octagon like i just kicked him in the knee and all my god he was going to win now he was getting dominated that fight because i did my homework i respect him that much that i took all his tools and i left him make it out there in and octagon and he had to deal with my sweet yeah my power that's what i do to everybody nobody sees it the think i'm just as strong as working wrestler with a hard right hand but look at the a joint military gets me on the way attacks happening i'll show our daily killing gas on this is never look like that is anybody else same thing steve the same thing with all my s same day what kind is same thing robbie is not is not a surprise that's the way they do
indian and i we dressed well will be if i'm fighting me fight i'm in this way take him to the late round kick his leg stay away from his power work is way so now i'm a formal in my game plan about what i think you think of me then think about every that you do every skill every talent every menu risen what you do when you get tired what you're going to go to osha bread butter and i get ready for those and sometimes like robbie took along time took up until the week at a fight for me to be like i got this mother fucker what was it that was different he just just prices really awkwardly he points his arms away longer what you think he's he's got way better boxing new you think it doesn't look all like if you see somebody slip in the south he do a lot of orthodox overhand left and upper cuts right kicks which it's very difficult to slip off line or do any punches here scramble any first shot if you shoot a shot he'll scramble you hard you have to shoot two hundred and thirty four attempts to get him to the ground he had
butterfly that he used to sweep to get out the ground so we just knew are indian at any point he can play rope a he can come out swinging so that's a lot of things to think about and then he just stand here like this and go boom and you knocked out not technique not turning hips he just had heavy hands naturally sold us all was a threat and we've seen him in wars he i gotta go away so i had you know from game plan that i can get around all that now when you saw the rda robbie lawler fight you said that you weren't really impressed with that fight because rda had him against the octagon and he was turned off for thirty thousand punches and he didn't knock him down and he didn't hurt him he was basically just punching the punch anytime you pun
a punch he was your energy when he's going up in weight and he's more volume now than he was when he was fighting a party a five yeah i think it's fighting a you hear our energy you get her now i mean if you if you make the jump to make the jump you know you can and be like i'm a i was when i was a lightweight and now he's a welterweight he's allowed style is different than especially guy like you rose which this this is my thought on robbie kay a lot of people i pick robbie apart in the film room before i the fight was over with before the fight started probably start out the first 32nd and string the art he ends up first second thirty seconds extremely hard second fourth round kind of close he's going for you going for it he'll take some get some okay there are usually takes off you have another set he gets because he's confident defense he'll let you punch and he'll block you he will a slight so he can get into the second gear is not that he's so well conditioned while she fight against
hello why she's fighting is rory why she's fight against rda he spent same moment against acting on what he allowed opponent to punch out of the same thing with johnny dini came off china get to the barn sells out is very smart but if everyone like he just freaking marathon runner is not so when that happened i said okay you had to get on robbie hart you going to be quick he's been punched a lot like i did all every fuckingg every you can think re going to fight an amish guy hit me up saying robbie has a flat face you punch is fat face he's used absorbing those punches go around the side portion a crazy logic is that man i use everything i can tell you how many times you step to the king left notify how many times you was right hand versus left hand it so you know i've been really secretive about a lot of this stuff because most people just see me as an athlete they just punch hard as wrestler that you know the stuff you know good game
but i really overly get obsessed with studying my opponents to the point where when models fighting wonderboy way here but to do this here but about to do that he's doing is he this outlook tells you there you go up here but did it and everybody's looking at how to fuck do you know that say you mother fockers wash their fight that i fought he thought it was so easy hos in there and that wonderboy said wonder boys g and he can take much way better i thought i hit is as hard he went out three or four times he just had the mentality i'm not going to lose today i'm not going to lose today and he was rewarded for that for just saying you know what i mean oh i got an forever have my respect but at the the day you got it be well to be honest with yourself i'm honest with who i am what i do well i'm not best and elbows after levels yes but i'm not going to out there and act like i'm you know matt brown and somebody no that's just deal matt browning stormy across the octagon like i will
so once i see what i do well and i you know i can hide my weaknesses behind my strength i can allow my opponent is never to put me in a spot where they're going to have the advantage today my ever put me in a position where he had me in his half car no never did it do you still you didn't think that road perform since robbie lawler was impressive your head a little well and robbie i mean he ran the tears i feel in a fight now take a minor at the the from a tactical standpoint i find out i thought he had some really good success with low kicks yeah and i thought he kind of abandoned that i was kind of surprised that he didn't do that an sarabi do the rope a dope arriving came off normally like i said robbie will take some russian hill last time you never came last only maybe it's 'cause he messes leg up or whatever but just from from two people that they want to fight me next let me fight somebody
fought rda seriously injured now those injuries have been revealed let's see we got here was a say and this is destroyed blew his acl and meniscus in a fight and every other thing that's in your knee out in third round said wobbled over to the and so it makes sense yeah that makes sense because 'cause if robbie is ashley known for well like think about would worry him against octagon with carlos condit value comes out comes out blasting but it's a he said he heard himself before the final yeah i had another article i was employed but i found that that said yeah he was injured going into so it or as a border fighting or during the fire we still have the title of that though go back to that real quick the title of it said seriously you're going into the fight right injured and then the entries have been revealed okay so they said i think it said that they're around right yeah
it's just like when you were saying that he lays makes sense yeah so so so so he didn't he didn't come off you you go the thread on his brother result you can't go to the thread on as well nobody like him from but yeah you know makes sense because i'm used to be coming off and get those thirty second bursts like i don't exactly not talk to big john what for a while about the judging right and you know damage being yeah some of those fights were even if robbie was in the more active one he's damaging people more 'cause he punched pardon his look more aggressive but how can carlos condit control the fact that he just don't punch hard as robbie right should you be penalized do you think he beat him rubbing in a fight i have to go back and watch that again i thought at the time a good time as you think it i don't think i did i thought i think i thought that hendrix that robbie did just enough to win but i have to go back and have to go back and watch it again
i thought at the moment the carlos one but i was in like all my god i can lead again robbie but was extremely close usually if you can make an argument for either guy when i think the robbie 'cause he landed the more part of groups applies in iraq scarier right i think that's why he got the not that means something now yeah i mean a someone hits harder it has more damage that damage should be accumulated i mean that should be social also sat up so someone's throws punches in it looks like is the fact that a person more even of the present throw more in land more than the person is the damage in place you think she went i think damage should count for more than punches the don't damage so like if one person his elevated they suppose a score now currently i don't know i mean the new it's what's interesting is nevada still doesn't accept the new rules they need to get the wrong ones right before they try to bring in a new one yeah yeah but interesting is the scores are much wider now
did you see a lot more tenants now then you just had before which i think is good i just think that we are system taken a system from boxing that only uses hands and applying that to takedown submission attempts leg kicks you would almost have to know this guys you world champion the fact that this guy swept him he's to score more because this guy hi this is no right house but nobody's going just have that you know insight i think it should be much broader system i don't think it should be ten points at all i think you're dealing with extreme amounts of variables it should be like almost like a hundred point system they got my fight against wonderboy the first time the one that was one judge they gave a one thousand and ten eight the first round in a ten nine the fourth round translator not come down three times yeah the ten eight was one you almost got him in the guillotine is that why he know know this week i was going in the fourth round yeah
and he said well if you don't wanna think you almost comic you team the first round in their first fight the first ride for this one i just ground up on the hell out of him took him down as you beat him up for the whole round he gay that run it eight so was the fourth and when you got him in the gift ones are the fourth rounds when i'm not going down again i knocked him down again and then i'm knock them down three times it down with forgetting the judge told me he said i thought it was a ten eight round but then you wasted a minute a guilty listed a minute he told me now that i had just got over this year right i was i was just got fucking said he said that i had just got over the fact that i felt like it was some bullshit in fact so you know whatever it is what it is i do it again just how long for can beat him this month welcome to me now you know who he is say man i just wanna let you know i justify an you know i'm
when i gave you that in a in a first round intended for around and all of a sudden my insides are burning and he's like no i see one explain to you why you know because i don't have a problem with you know facing the fight is out the worse you know well you did well i was going to give you a ten round it was crazy and you know but then you wasted a minute to get it i said i'm sorry let me tell you something i said around if you woulda said ten on it okay i ground up on bloody him up he showed offense one thousand and eighteen or whatever you want to give it i'm cool with that and i said the fourth right i knocked him down three times and i say i want to tell you a guillotine choke is not a not a waste and it's not a move that you can say i wasted time in so finishing move edit i head head head head piece bucket tapped out if i would have been over with so the fact that try to knock him out then his neck i'm available to my arms then i grab like an egg and i tried show them then he popped his head out yes he's tough
making it through the whole onslaught of me trying to kill him but does that give him an extra point he said but then he threw some punches i said go back and watch the fight i said he threw a few punches from top how many landed he said i don't know i said sir i'm over right i'm glad i didn't say i lost the fight but the significant damage that was landed in if i came from me only knockdowns only you know i only jeopardy of someone the referee getting involved happy when i was on the end of it so i just think the system yeah i really think the scoring system they just don't let it go to the judges 'cause 'cause people going as you know what bug it today lego city ocean sunday you know i'm not going to try to not you are not i trust them three right there look very trustworthy i'm going to leave it in their hands and all my kids in my family my bill i'm just you know i'm living up to you know i always hate that expression i hate it
so some some guys don't want to be finished most guys in and see this case with a with a little bit overweight yeah you know of some i just i mean i don't want to just be finished right nobody does it's a foolish way looking at is not just the the the best way to fight is the best way to fight and if you see an opening like you said that's when you move the idea that you're supposed just rush danger that's how you lose in the fact that people don't know that and that people say things like at and they don't understand what they really shouldn't be talking about fighting man it is a complicated thing divided complicated thing in this also this one words like if the team doesn't run the ball well they don't run the ball they pass so if this is steve thompson he doesn't have to wrestle he doesn't have to try did you get it right he just had to stop you from doing it to him but he's got no style that's impossible to find anywhere else standing completely sideways he's thrown front leg kicks that could knock
out the social lowered stuff and he bends at the waist like a snake he you all those years of point karate like he's really fastened to the very two women day is which is a pain in the yeah says not cut was yeah in my opinion spar wise was way harder than one avoid more mma experience for sure say it also resigned kicks ages his sidekick she knock i had a word on track one of it this far sage he can we do to now my babies willie i'm like dance thank you thank you no joke there's no job so he he it's good i had a kid named chris payne from the same background that i had the guy name michael tang who's type one guy from or from the east coast and then actually lot of people duke actually his original base was thai kwando so having all those it wasn't fun i mean it was that was many rounds i did not win i mean sage northcutt kick my eyes for a couple of days 'cause i couldn't figure
how to how to get up on him without getting kicked in the sidekick right now you gotta think about it like damn door how close do i get to him before he moved his side so you know totally different style of movement and wonder boys probably the best world is good it's it's a very complicated fight and that's why almost an easy out to me but he his his manager trying to get too much money say that again michael venom page so really i bring him out so he wanted to come out but his manager you want me to bring him bring the manager i mean the friend him all money in all three different separate cars for say i love you i think i am what kind of money i got but we not doing that for three days well you made a big change in your life when you started training with duke and a lot of people don't know that before that you really didn't have like a man trainer which is the impressive gains been with me for a long time but as far as a coach
everyday i put myself through stuff that was all i was doing so poorly before do it was just me i had a gym i will say hey guys are going to start this time we're going to do this i would you know no try to just my weaknesses and i've been really blessed to have the man success i had without having a full time coach then it just got to the point that's hardiness it man whatever cost me or whatever i gotta pay i need you the whole time i said because i can't do it i've been winging issue i can't keep doing that but it was interesting that you told me that it was your son's idea file yeah you got a good memory to go to duke could take some notes now membership yeah my son i had who's doing embedded thing and then so where we going tomorrow like either tomorrow is so under humbug like reading fly to florida may indeed or we milwaukee the in my my son there and he said i think you should go to florida club turn sharing with ben askren and anthony pettis
those guys and i think we should go in milwaukee walking outside milwaukee yet so i said welcome morning i said thank you were going to milwaukee so then guys they actually drama quality in getting tired falling asleep so the the you guys drive my truck up there and we went out there this is cold negative fourteen degrees i was like man this sucks i'm at home in a week and by eve out there who a never been in a call in his life he has at least one die but yeah i went out there and then duke is always invited me to come out he don't invite a lot of guys but duke from ben from anthony always thought those guys killing s balls and after i talked to duke now i under duke's brother was a southpaw so his main sparring partner he learned all the tricks on how to defeat his southpaw so i'm like how did anthony all
because every time you go get somebody the opposite stance did great against him so if you do the math everybody i thought the model had seven fights women softball robbie wonderboy i guess a wonderboy again all kelvin gastelum dung kim all of the south and all difficult guys at south and guess what everybody else in front of southpaw softball rda robbie was salt became a southpaw so you get all these guys that are solid fossil is made sense for me not only that he made fighting fun again i wasn't having fun with it he made it i want to learn i felt like a kid again and you know there's a great morality jim and you know it was i felt very specific two hours and i feel like i wasn't doing any training just pushing slash and flipping it just to say i did it everything had a function and i felt better and i look better and you know i did all this training i was running my fucking into the ground
doing all this you know three four day training and looking all crazy and i got into the scan it never showed people like damn man target on gaining muscles you got out of muslim for my guitar solo right now i'm doing all this extra work but it a show not octagon gun there so i would do indeed and they forced me to tyrant trust us you doing too much and it's not if you're aspiring is affect because you're sure condition and is no the supplement is taken the and we're not in funding we're fighting you barring is number one anything it take for your spring to be the best that's what we've got to do so we gotta more do lessons condition in we got to actually do none just bar if we got it there's been times i go in there and have it this one day and i said i'll see you in the morning we doing this again we run it back 'cause in the practice room you can run it back in real life you can't so i'll take advantage of you know the playground
if we in practice and i think now i just love right and again i love training i love competing i love winnie the minute where you know you want now how much time do you spend in milwaukee do you just move your whole camp there early cardio most of the time i had to spend some time in florida because they were my i'll be a complete idiot if i didn't take part of the you know the version two black belts in american top team it really depends on a fight at usually try to get at least four weeks with duke the good thing about do do doesn't have a huge ego and he knows does well but he works well with other coaches that's why him in has been so if i to bring in another striking coach another training partner or somebody else he opens up the door for that because at the end of the day the goal is for me to be the champion state champion an rich golden greatest was one of our time you guys are great so so so so smart guy if it was not for that you know be a little bit difficult and all
so then we gotta realize i've been american top team should say one dan lambert is never been in a blue about where i'm staying where i'm going i've always called him and for him to give me the ability to go and get some the coach is also been very helpful now he's another amazing guy to impose valuable guy and and i may think about the amount of money that he spent an american top team before he made any money i mean that guy poured money into mixed martial artist you forwarded into it and created one of the greatest facilities on the planet earth for mma especially the new place suppose it he's great too but as a coach what i really respect about duke is not just the fact that he's got this incredible wealth of knowledge but the soul humble yeah so like down to earth and chill yeah you know i mostly jeez are the people the people that really just know they don't have to prove it days like that do strike that lan it was like that some guys had overly want to show you and stuff those are the people that are kind of insecure or where they at its cautious so i can cause i mean you share with you alright
but they got it like get so sensitive i'm never seen it before so i just don't want to deal with it yeah unfortunately it's in my boxing coach like that to eric brown for wildcard i've been sharing with him since two thousand seven two thousand and eight so he's the same way so now when you're out here like times your home and when you're home what kind of stuff do you do like if you're not injured if you're not recovering from the surgery like what what stuff do you do at home hey go my kids go to football practice go to rest practice take everybody school pick everybody up play video games about like training i'll join you don't train at home sometimes not much really you don't do anything i just sent the conditioning with my god derek fairchild an i got a i got up and come in featherweight there's really fast and good boxing so i play around with him a little bit i might run it might hit the bag by diverse climber but when this camp time out when there's not a camp town on both family that's interesting so you don't you're not com
simply train no now let's see do you feel like they used to do you use to watch change that because i stopped like mma oh ok so now you feel like your kind of burnt down but i never stop watching i'm always watching film i'm always in my obviously working on fox i gotta break everybody down i was i just i want to want to miss the shit i want to want to get back in i want to hear somebody name they fight me and i want to get nervous a little bit and watch some film and see what they do well and then let's get this thing let's get this together so right everything out this map out the training count let's get our partners let's do we need to do and let's get after that that takes away the pressure for me right will bless you with his injury and the fact that three months and you should be able to probably start training hard when he when you look to defend the belt again you know i can probably will probably fight um april be kind of pushing it but
may june july usually park july fourth party chat away today that's a good one right away today and that's probably like main event july whatever the hell we can july fourth weekend used to international fight yeah that's that would be i mean that's why the biggest chance to get a big fight that's what i want files your manager would be something that we got so july probably hanging there is no fight in between it that's going to make sense for me to do george says retired or retired what did he do just just gave up the belt right sure search i don't want to speak for george 'cause i like yours i like him too so i don't want to speak from georgia smart he he he plays the fact that he don't i don't really speak english here more focus smart this was the right fight k think about it this mean into all the middleweights wasn't really the best middle weight
we all everybody want to find disney right so if george which is going to go up find for another belt another legendary move fight a guy that does not have the punching power maybe cannot take him down maybe cannot stop to take down and for once george probably had a punch punching power advantage against bisbee so with that said it made a lot of this one do that they also had a lot of history training together that was a big part of it yeah george's eyes he very successful again take training and he was he was kind of worried about the size oh yeah he came he was like hey so how much you think disney way i'm like this is really really worried about that there was talk about you finding biz being at one time i know you guys would it but we got back i would like to if i right now i'm good i'm good to fight in their way i actually offered to fight george at middle anne give up my belt at walt and just fight him if i lose the plug in
right middle weight title then i lost my building now i'm going to sam sausage head you know i guess to the bottom of the bottom of the deck but when you i think they kind of ball z say i'll find a middle way and i'll give my build up if that fight doesn't happen at that point i feel like somebody might not want to well it's hard to say right because he only fought once in four years and there's no timetable and his return and no thought whatsoever though there's out of weirdness in this for right now is so much rests on january 20th so much rest signing gonna versus the bay because i think that fight is going to be gigantic for the sport is image i get it for the sport and then you know i think steep pay is use overly working and over you know me he he had a why would he like have one of my family and my shot finally got it took advantage of it i was in a similar situation like when am i going to my got to took advantage of it agano has very scary
so here you know knock you out regular and that's the best thing he will hit you and you fall off each year by ocean they won if you alive still it's kind of like i we did the key here over here oh my god do you see the mean when it was like the pass candy yeah his name is back in his head almost touched the spine that was insane knockout he knocked him he's he's freaky in his speed is power anna stories incredible i mean you want to talk about a story that's like right out of a movie guy was homeless five years ago and now the sudden two years if i so appreciative so happy you know fuckin' hands would like two times the size of my you shake it shake his head before he feels weird like you look like you shaking a loaf of bread i don't mind and i told his boxing coach and like man i do not envy you man you get punched in their body protector another
now you say you could put it on said no i will not go turn it no not about that life he's something special so we think will happen in a fight if i was take him down but hang on it's going to try see if they got a good chain but i wouldn't test it against him no don't touch that he's going to try to close the distance and grab him and try to draw i think you should i think you want to show everybody i'd stood up ovary my i said a dog jds acid or offer recio i said over all these guys totally different thing right now said i know i know they're overly define on his coaching staff i don't know what they're thinking i think you should post to take downs take down a ground and pound where his arms out make make engano fight him to stop again take down and see if you take steam often hands that's what i think too and i think that the clinch is going to critical over and got the clinch on we could do anything with it and was college wrestler cpa's got got good wrestling skills
is known more as being an overall well rounded mma fighter but i think he's gotta get that clinch i think standing in front of inganno is just you're just you playing russian roulette one of those bullets going to land i'm not in front of them in not even just in the even if we do it appears i'm not hey you too closely movie oh big gas over there who who when he connects it's just it's something different people always ask me to do you think they want in ghana to win do you think they're trying to set this up so he can win do you think like as far as the asset he's an amazing story if he was the champion it would be very marketable and i don't want to see that yeah i mean the firefighter with the raspy voice i don't think there's i think of steve bacon turn francis back that's very market two i think the you if you when when he has the the he broke the record right yeah he will he will break right which is crazy boo defenses i know
crazy the heavyweight division is and always has been you know all the most anyone has ever done is kane kane's done two defenses right damn that's crazy right can hold the office canaanite and fourteen lead game rock kane has so many injuries man's hans dentally injured the poor guys constantly getting surgery did he freaking out i know my man over there lan's from ohio so far to columbus columbus are cold as hell out there fuck yeah it is i was just out in canton not longer played in nam the hall of fame who i know your seat champions defend the belt more than twice have you a champion so what does it say it didn't say whether it's kane kane kane yep is yeah this is why
yeah i think stupid is a version that came with less injuries it's a little bit more but you know just pressure and punching endurance yeah yeah see basic base he's definitely a beast look it's gonna be a tough as five for sure in in ghana's career but what's what's it mean if steve bacon win it's amazing and it solidifies his position as the baddest man on the planet but there's something about in ghana knew that is it's uh it's more it's more in enticing to people is also the fact that steep a has been in so many wars in his chin who's been touched a lot of times so he has a great chin but you don't want to keep testing that's why she gets to do like in ghana would awkward power yeah my round g santos fight was crazy long fight and he had i'm down marine down so it's a tough one but the thing is like
we know so little about in ghana's ground game we know so little about his ability to overcome adversity he just been smashing people yeah i agree i said i said the other day i think that steve has been in a tough fight she's been knocked down and he's on the five if i ko shrink as well like i mean in this against tougher artisan mcdonald's knocked out it so exciting right now man there's so much talent who's your favorite site on on time and what happened to be because i'm here i don't have a verified max holloway i love maximum skill and i like his style too because his style is he overwhelms you he doesn't he's not knocking anybody one shot he just constantly overwhelming you with conditioning and intelligence and timing and distance and he could do everything he could strike you take you to the ground is great defense article submissions are outstanding and i like that fight with him and frank
anger that's an interesting fact that i was just talking with this other day but frankie edgar his fault similar cub swanson yeah or we but max is really fought anybody like like frankie so my estrogen compacted knows how to get close quick knows how to get out quick he'll take you out frankly don't give him he was taken out on who charlie i live here he didn't even tell how great he was on the ground he was in his car punch in and i think that can present some absolutely yeah that's the march third buy and max is a big big favorite in that fight which these folks don't all too he looks like he's in maui yeah he's alive confident heading that in aldo fight especially the second fight man you see that confidence just oozing out of him he's the champions he's a beast yeah i think fifty five is an amazing weight class right now we argue fox that they think they get they try to get under my my skin as light lightweight
w division said don't play with me water is laughing at the after after after habib yeah be was a beast i haven't watched any of his fights i watched him i said i need to go back to my my bad he fights like that every time yeah he's a monster you see the michael johnson fight he's talented live up there must be jump give up smashing it his wrestling and his his his ground and it's just so ferocious insists on such another level and it gets ahold of guys he's getting ahold of guys that are really good and just ragdoll in him like what he did rda gypsy that's fine yeah i sorry i haven't seen those files i gotta go back and look ragdoll rds you know just beats the shit out of two thousand and how is a big fan at the time like man he something special dude restart special and the fact that he did that to barboza he wants move up seventy two she had no he don't
i know mark mills should not send him a man will be by the pack up nutrition is anybody out there i'm picking up the tab cycle as down there in fifty five i'm not trying to see no could be right now yeah he's making fifty five easy now though so who knows i think i believe is going to happen is i think connor's going to vacate i think they're going to strip him 'cause he's got one hundred million dollars in the bank i think he's having fun talking shit and he's going to keep training and he's going to make a big fight in the future but i think beebe versus tony is the big fight in fuch they might even do that one in russia they do that one time we do not verify in russia or that yeah if that happen well that's a good fight i mean everybody's been waiting to see that fight yeah that's a good like ferguson very are
how many wins he's got like nine hundred and ten in the world yeah he has the most ever in the lightweight division ann i think it's at ten i think when he beat kevin it was at ten who do you lose with michael he will to boy yeah he lost in long time yeah it was my worst michael yeah yeah i mean only so unorthodox and closer to gives to a corner even if i yes close and see but man yeah he he just nobody has told tony that what he's doing is not who's jamie tony he lost to jamie tony earlier in his career was curled of what is that from national fine lines interesting hi i tried the hyatt regency karen durability and act a very good fucking submission artist interesting yeah well he let nine
mothers have his name punch choke choke choke choke choke yeah and then brought in running over guys to the ensign barboza fight was fence faster that was a fantastic loser if i to armor yeah well that's a danger about about tony it don't really matter if he's losing the fight yeah first the first second round he keeps it together yeah he's a man that dos anjos fight was amazing to beat the shadow sandros that's it mean he's a bad man tony ferguson you cannot sleep on tony ferguson so is amazing i used to be like man striking on look like is something that should frighten you that much but when it's coming so often is so weird angles and then he's going for shots and he he does the exact opposite well if you think you should do in grappling and then he's in the position and then we get there now he's got like five or six position so he's like switching it here and there and there for you know you asked choked out yeah
he's so he's a rotational user will do that so that's an amazing fight i love that fight you know what i'm really interested in right now i'm really interested is tj dillashaw versus mighty mouse so much talk about that i don't know i want to see it though how much more interesting to see him barbara undermining mouth really yeah i don't know why it just looks looked on paper like more invite dumb man i disagree i think it's more interesting to see tj because tj's got more weapons like tj does more stuff it throws more kicks he's got more i mean you saw in the garb and fight that's where i heard it yeah i just i just like cody's boxing in the pocket and it's counters anybody is going to deal with dj speak i make jamison not very many people have been able to do so i think they both are gonna be tough fights i mean it's going to be tough for tj is going to be hard for dillashaw mighty mouse is just very few holes he's like pouring water just keep going to say he never stop line and then i watched him drill we've always fight
but you did the same thing in the drill he just did it right now yeah dang now he's special he's special is his ability and his ability to not get hit he's he's doing something that was stated in the mountains so like he was trying to take down dots a member in dot someone then take nine he said forget i'm a grab a leg up key punch him in the face rebel in a minute if finally he got the two now he just if he thinks he's smart he's going to or she's not going to discourage you going to keep going for it if he was going to get some who's the kid tim elliott to him and his dad jokes i'm like i was freaking out 'cause you know dj mohammed a man is about to lose his kid and saddam good he had me in a deep like he's just rattle very hot now you don't get rattled he's got the whole package she's got mental toughness he's intelligent is his skill levels on another level i mean skill levels off the charts he does a master basics like that basics
returning armbars maybe wanna flashes name did you ever seen him do but in general if you think about it he comes for it and he does great fast basics from this side he switched as create fastbreaks yes i very traditional cleansed super active with it hard to take gets up to regular way if mouse you here believes like if a course teaches you armbar from mount and his mind one hundred percent chance is going to work is no way it can't work so when you see him go do a regular armbar on somebody the middle like you know her gucci or john moraga thank you know how he can with them mark because we just don't believe in the fact that died in his techniques yeah so it's an amazing time amazing time for the sport and i mean it's amazing time it's just amazing time for martial arts period i mean i i think martial arts right now is at the highest level that it's ever been in the history of people fighting each other
this is exciting moment as well because now you got so many different hopefuls we got six or seven people that they just one more in common just need one or this person just need one more than they jump off and it becomes super strong 'cause we we need more stars right now we got connor but when this kind of going come back i think rhonda my due to ww i john she's done i'm pretty sure i think w anything is uh i know she was at it like dinner would triple h in our asian slater so i hope she does that because people can say whatever they want but ronda rousey was she was that girl at one point she she put us all on the map in a different way and the old lady did the have your lady at the airport talking about in the meso she she she she she paid are do and i think if she wanna gracefully walk into a different realm wwe film i think she just produce some type of series that
you know we should support on it i agree i agree one hundred percent and i don't want to see a fight again if she wants to fight again but what if what i would want to see is her move to a camp that could address the entire game they may in a much more comprehensive way tell her that she's created something if she's really i want her to go to like matt humor someone like that but who is she actually fight shouldn't it she's too big of a name to fight somebody who she fight fight someone who's coming up fight someone get a tune up fight get an actual i mean but i don't think she wants to fight i mean i think at a certain point in time you have enough money in the bank you have enough notoriety and fame and she's got a lot of aspiration's outside the sport's married now who knows she might want to start a family you right you right this is all i want to see george saint pierre versus tyron woodley in july i say that's my big predictions for two make it happen
great prediction big prediction for me is that if i dressing pair my first five bag charge my shoulder sore i can't replace you could barely georgia katie wilpon how do you sleep i can't punch hard to sleep i mean if you want to fight me rather this is a time and a time shortly keep me you are right now sharks money and and what a fight that would be in terms of like they just historical significance and and how big it would be the mean he's coming off of the win of his career coming back four years off beats bisping choke some unconscious for the title vacates the title steps right in their fights you at one hundred and seventy is eg it'll be fun and he would exit the sport nobody will give him that much stuff from losing to me sarah woodley thanks for doing this man i appreciate it i'm going to finally got in here probably did it
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