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JRE MMA Show #46 with Ari Shaffir

2018-10-21 | 🔗
Joe is joined by comedian Ari Shaffir to discuss some MMA/UFC history.
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You should fear this started off as a mma, podcast and kind of went back and forth there's a lot of mma, but there's a lot of not mma you're, going to love it for, for you bro it's. He wanted to be an mma podcasts. He actually brought notes. Are you he's prepared he's not like my these folks, but I think it was great podcast. I hope you enjoy too. Please give it up for my friend. Ari should fear experience. You talk about that on there now yeah. This is not as bad through a push button, any good windows or MAC. You guys not soon be jealous of a recovery like custom, Nightwish, whack and I've sung S machete type, nine. As a chop, some wood it we guys doing out camping, hiking and then hike my four hours to a campsite. Their bodily loves fly fishing
right. Isn't he a big flyfisher, yeah yeah? He? Maybe he likes doing shit that his body shouldn't allow him to do yeah. I know him when he was skinny. That's nuts. I see that video that trim, the headshot that comedy cellar like that's that guy did. He was like my size he's like a normal sized person, it's not to Maine. It is nuts yeah. When I met him we're working together and he lived in a home with special needs, kids and he would like take care of them. He was like a. Counselor or some some sort of a teacher or something like with special needs kids and um He was totally normal size. Wow like you, would see him like uh. Let me compare him. Somebody he's a fat fuck. Now I haven't seen him in a long time. I mean I let me just trash him for a minute about his being overweight. I'm sad 'cause! I really like that. Guy he's a sweetheart yeah, enjoy it you can.
His kid too right yeah as a kid. Well, why is he allowing himself to eat himself to death? ok! Well, I think a little bit in the attics mind you don't really have it you're, not really an addict you it's like the replacement things real. We replace one with the other. What was his attic before with a coke and booze? Oh yeah, that's it Dang man? That's a real thing: it's not for every time he tries to get ap that because a month and then like it just falls off a day and the just keeps falling off from his fatter than ever yeah. I saw a photo from that cruise at Bert went on with them, and I was like, oh god,
yeah. They couldn't let him go anywhere with the middle of the boat. Otherwise it would like tip that's crazy sharks and ship which are Columbia. No, I come this time. This time Bobby we have a chance to eat all those. Well, you can't be on a boat with those fucking buffets, two men, those buffets are brutal. I gained twelve pounds in a week on the jokers cruise last year. I believe it oh yeah buffets or rough man. We last time I was in Vegas. I hate that at the buffet and they're great just hate crepes kinds of, should I should never eat I'll, go for third sure, quite small, a small portion of fried chicken and waffles, and it's like your friends, go your friends go. Johnny MIKE nods at like four hours ago, like what comes out with us like? Okay, I guess on some fries who have some cupcakes what's cupcakes no matter how rich you get just it's free great, take whatever yeah. You have to open your well. It's such an easy process right there. I could just grab it to the best. Is this Filipino and like these immigrant type, like employees that are
are you guys done with us like, oh yeah, I've done like? Are you kidding Maine? This could feed my whole village, which were throwing away yeah. I like that. I can keep a smile on their face when you find out the real statistics of like how much people make in certain countries. You know like. I was reading something how much people look at the average salary of a person who lives in Thailand yeah. It's like one thousand dollars a month that I was I was a bus from Indonesia to EAST Timor across the land border. Some guy was talking about how much people make, and I told him to wait. I think it would cost of living is way higher. It's like that's great. I should have fifty dollars bill. He was like losses mind.
How many how many stock chart, I forget how what their currency is, how many this worth- and I told me that warm yeah, I think, I'm wrong to about a thousand dollars a month. If you make less hot house dollars, yeah it's possible, it might be like one quarter, that little also don't use currency that much the lady a reform trade with our neighbor milk. I mean like, we don't need currency. Did we took these lessons on how to how to grow out of, like take rice plant it and like they take you through the whole steps in Thailand. They Dave give you the outfits and ever made that all the people that farm rice where but you really I was like before industrialized agriculture. What a process it was to actually get rice, Focke, that it is a giant process yeah, it's crazy! How much work is involved. Yeah. You see them up to the wasted water now Liz I saw,
dead dog in a rice patty once faced down. I really like all that so there's still serving that rice, I'm sure you're not going to waste that rice yeah didn't wash it off at all, all like maybe they would. I heard that you're going to put that dog on it anyway. Yeah, cook it so wrong. Well, the thing about the rice is like. I thought that at least when you get the rice, you just get the rice off the plant and then you could boil it and eat it. No, no! It's like a husk, you gotta beat it down and break it open and then the actual rices underneath it I'm just trying this out I thought you just pick. We don't plan smoke it and I know you got a cure it and write my curate, what you know it's the worst female weed is which one right right, but male and female we'd get together and they, if the
weed in the female we'd get together and ruins the wheat yeah like I don't like kind of like really it's kind of like a letter. Yeah man ruin everything. I didn't know that that will do that plants like, but I don't know Jack about culture, agriculture, but they they breed like the a male and a female version of these plants is like what like some guy was. A grower was trying to explain it to me like how they isolate the female it's like wait, a minute what he knows a lot about it. Of course it does, but like yeah, it's like this makes sense. Yeah plant girls on plants, you're wrong. You know the plants that have a Chinese. You hey guys this. They had never research how to weigh more about this guy who lives I'd like it and it looked into it hi I've. I was stunned because it is a male version of female version of a plant. What area do that? I the more I have of re
search plants because uh I had on this guy who's, fascinating man. You should really, if you can get him on your podcast, that's the guy who pulled stamets, yeah yeah. I heard him on NPR. He should have mine yeah. I hook you guys up. Ok, you would love it specially when he finds out that you vented. You know he would love you, but when he explaining to me the system through which plants exchange nutrients and information with fungi, and fun! Guy fungi actually supply these plants with certain nutrients and they they an information network of mycelium, that's underneath the ground, where that's how I've heard about this, how like what trees will do is can ok with each other, once she's dying, they'll send nutrients together. I guess I guess through my guys, because the context or whatever dude it's fucking bananas,
yeah and it all all underneath the ground I mean underneath the ground. Is this whole almost like information exchange network of fun, guy Wow- and I guess we need, help yeah man they they know when others need more resources. They have like a socialist network of allocation of resources. Strange it's fucking, crazy. And they communicate with each other when they're being eaten. They know they know that other ones are being eat and they'll change their flavor profile there. Actually they actually make their polar leaves more bitter. To avoid predation 'cause like someone here eating and fucking put up your defenses so crazy that you can have the sound of caterpillars chewing leaves you could play it like on a recording next to a plant and that plant will change its flavor profile. Wow, yeah they become so disgusting that giraffes won't, eat them and they'll starve to death, because it's gross, because I just to get
it's not the ether nails I painted with that stuff that taste gross. No, they do that yeah, stupid kids, super fun, kids are seem to eat their boogers and you're like what the fuck is wrong with you yeah You eat boogers all the time with him when he got to do with them, throw away. Total wines are trash receptacle for boogers God we put him in a tissue and you be gone with them. We don't eat your boogers savvy, I'm going to run a boogers. Ok, you do what you gotta do. I have one of these gyrations that I have this one. Actually at my house, so nice, I got one of your crazy mushroom shirts, which tour was that from do mushrooms, I think, was to special look on the left. There is that one and then there was the other one with you, your time open with it with a. How does it twenty twelve twenty twelve short yeah, that's the coolest. I might If I fucked up and didn't do a shirt this year I just sell it. We should just sell it period. It's a cool one yeah! I like the idea of going like because, because iron maiden had that with like a shirt per year, yeah, you can show
would off at the next item in concert, but then you had to be at that concert, otherwise reflect that's the one. That's my favorite yeah. I got that one in the hot black chick on top TED Park did that's. Why did the korean zombie shirt? Oh? Really, damn he's good he's good! That's a great fucking shirt man in your eyes! Look! we walked out not really. Why is Mark Meron shirt or the guy from grateful dead matches? Mark Barron went the other way. Superdrug, Friday just went all mushrooms, just really the other way as a variety going mark. Oh good, you should I bailed to put the flyers on realize what the am I doing, avoiding all the best parts of life yeah. That's that's teaching me this sober October. Things teaching me a to my bartender. I want to O'Neill's wedding ran as water, and I was like you made it out a brewery right and
as I do, every non alcoholic beer like I was saying like it, helps with social can socially it's like everyone's drinking. You know and he goes yeah yeah. It goes so, sober and like yeah, but he didn't know. A lot of people know this context, but he was like I'm doing it too. Did you all about it before last year means we're going to do it earlier or later and then Bert had in Australia thing like there's no way you're doing in Australia. You can't be sober in Australia and you can't be sober for the jokers cruise right, and that was November. I think first week in November, or something and so we like to settle down October, so we just stumbled upon it and other people have been doing it for years. Apparently, how long sober October been going on for a long time, yeah Jamie says along time off my 'cause. He doesn't realize what podcast there awhile. Who's that that sounds like a constant yeah. It's some apparently been going out for a long time. I was doing it completely locked into it did somebody. I was at the jets game, some of
sent me a beer and I was like what and then I turn and there's I was like I can't like I was trying to catch. You don't do from the stands, things birds drinking. He does wow yeah. Really it was, I think, birds drinking. Yes, I saw the other day look guilty. His head down was down was looking at think. I think he's drinking Joe Rogan I've wanted to so bad. I actually need to break this time. I went to sushi, I told you. I went to sushi when was I was like aw yeah get a nice clean he up in stock, it's October, God dammit! It's like the rates you realize now: it's not just casually drinking that there's moments where booze really does go well with an experience, steak and a nice glass of red wine. Oh yes, yeah November fifth son were going off November, fifth ward off. If that's what I'm going to do, the recap podcast we're all going up so ARI, and I have been battling for first place recently until today, when Tom Segura Snow,
can the second place with his four hundred plus points today that really put the pressure on me. It really has hurt me to not. I finally joined a gym because of this. I have to blink it's a small gym, but it's like right near my seven minute. Walk my apartment plug and pass on the way home from the seller. I can get a workout in right. Then, if I want that's good yeah, it's twenty four hours weekdays, so crazy, fuckin' life, they're, crazy life in New York to everything is twenty four there's so many twenty four hour thanks restaurants pool halls yeah I passed by that place. We went a bunch of times which place all the time. Amsterdam, Amsterdam, yeah. That's always there that place is only open till two, oh really yeah, but it's still pretty late. There's a few real sketchy joints there, twenty four hours, but if you go in there, you'll get a bunch of creeps at want to gamble.
Deluxe cartels, I'm good, I'm just trying to hit some balls trying to take my mind off things: yeah they're, cracked out trying to hustle. Just very little of that anymore, though it's New York is cleaned up for the worse or the better. I mean hustling pool hustling, it's chance, just kind of died. He has a like pools dead. They have like a legally now yeah. You know yeah, it's like well, I mean that's good, I'm just happy. If people play it's a fun thing to play, but it's dead in terms of like it, the way it used to be in Manhattan where they were just gambling everywhere, you have to turn the century. There was a thousand pool walls in New York City. What now nineteen hundreds the early? Ninety Hundreds did you ever see that the pool tables like outside in Thailand when you were there? No, I didn't, but I'm here in the Philippines, it's crazy yeah and it's just like there will be some like an awning or something or just something set up kind of like a people who go tailgating those kind of tents and will be under that, and you can just pull over and be like
play and they'll be like white guy for sure. Let's play gambling just like having a fun time, really well yeah yeah. I saw one in Chiang Mai in that downtown marketplace area yeah, so one how fun was that Thai Kickboxing, pretty fun, tough, it's so cool and they played the instrument right dude. How fucking fun is that's pretty wild I've been to those out. Where will they play it? But Americans get real bored with the Y crew? That dance they do hi. This is your chance for their for their own. Dojo you hand. Well they do everybody. Does it and there's a real logic behind the largest you warm up in the you relax yourself, okay, I you kind of performing in front of these dance moves. Yeah and also people are staring at you, so it kind of wears off your nerves. This is a reality to that. It's actually
wise, you know and you lose you limber up your body to like a lot of the stuff they're doing is you know, they're getting down on one knee like a luncheon there bouncing a little bit and so they're limb bring up their body and then, on top of that they're actually doing this dance in front of all these people and calms the nerves. A little bit. Wow yeah Jon Fitch really talk about that about, like the idea of people watch is actually a big thing in the UFC, is like a bigger people watching you, then oh yeah anywhere else. It's a tougher people watching you is fucking people watching shoot a free, throw. You know, go ahead, dude good, dude lunch. We watch off. Go here, go that's really! Even if it's just like five year, friends, yeah yeah pressure, the pressure isn't fucking real man. I mean that's what everybody's most terrified about what we do public speaking, I had somebody that we were giving a talk on Shakespeare. Some. It was a group project. We each had to write one paragraph
wrote three paragraphs at each one of us read one, so I think I read mine just reading it up. It was paying attention. This next slide is like and then later Shakespeare had the time. That is what I was looking at her like what the flock and teachers like. Ok, ok, ok, it's alright! Let's, let's start with somebody else right and I was like what the fuck is wrong with you is- is what was a stand up, but like In the sense I used to panic when I would talk to bank tellers what yeah I used to go to a bank target super nervous right before I have to talk to a bank teller, why? I don't know yeah, no reason for what. When I was a kid, I have a really for like a loser. I really dead. I had like serious low self esteem issues up until like high school up until martial arts and then start doing martial arts and getting really good at it and then teaching it kind of calmed me down experience, yeah and then it kind of like. Was it
believe it or not, almost like a natural path to stand up, but I remember before that of being in a very awkward talking to people very nervous talking to people I didn't know yeah, I just didn't didn't I get back. I still get that were MIKE, I know You know how to talk very strange. I don't know how to talk to you yeah. I know right, especially if it's an odd thing, and so you know it works when I know you too, and they ask you, questions are so broad what's joy? Ideas like oh? What's he like yeah, that's that's hard. He man, I gotta, ask you a question which I do for a living trying to get my shit together? Okay, fire fire truck operator yeah. You should make ladders yeah like, I don't know anything about you. What are talking about you you used to be.
Carbon. Nobody will do more. Okay, don't stand up, so I do it like. Definitely now go for it. If you want, I say: go for it, sir, if you like, yes, if you want to do it, do it yeah but the everything is like that, but if it doesn't work out, don't get mad at me. Has family not might be responsible for this? You told me to come before your no I'm all up. He told me to just I got a broken arm now, bro who's going to fix this huh huh you broke. That's the answer. You motherfucker fix that shit to get it fixed, yeah I was talking to a friend of mine who I want to name his name 'cause. He got a pretty significant injury and we're talking about his injury and it's fun Batman, you, he needs surgery and his bone is changing shape because of arthritis is building up in his joint on like a fuckin' he's a young guy, and it just makes you realize, like the fuckin' punishment, these guys are putting on their body and it's like totally blow
will the surface like that? People don't know it's behind the curtain. No one knows about it and they've got like these devastating injuries that they're fighting off and then competing against world class fighters dangerous with these torn ligaments and facility talk about with Tony Ferguson he's like he didn't look comfortable in that leg now and he's like yeah it wasn't. You know what he went six months from catastrophic knee injury where the bone literally said. Created from the ligament ligament or off the university of the picture surgery. Oh Jamie push, pull it up, pull that shut up Jamie. It's a crazy surgery, because it's I'm not exaggerating, might be a twelve inch scar, its enormous, like that big and it's all jagged and shed, and just he ripped it apart, they had to open him up inside of route twelve months, not even six months. Six months I mean yeah insane. I don't understand how that guy doesn't clearly get the title shot. He does he
We should talk about that. Look at that wow! That's crazy! In the thing is that was just from a trip he just tripped wow bananas who yeah what's the second image, Jerry different angle, all the other side yeah, where were single yeah yeah? The extent that injury, the the fact that he came back in six months and what's really interesting. Is he came back in six months? He didn't spar, apparently really need to talk to him about this I'm going to have him with Eddie. He spar he just prepared to train with her yeah he's wanted he's black belts, wow really yeah, damn he's a black belt. You should be I think it is pretty sure this fighting with them pretty sure any game is blackballed. After he submitted Kevin Lee, he did yeah yeah he's he's tenth planet go wow, that's pretty cool, it's pretty bad, as he's got a nasty dar stroke.
He should clearly gets a title shot this deal. It doesn't make sense to me even that when he came back he should have gotten stripped mom in hindsight, bye, bye, boo, agree one hundred percent and then it's like you have could be who's the titleholder, fair and square. I guess, but, like you know, beat the champion. Well, he's more of a legit title holder in my opinion, then, could be Bros before Connor because he didn't Al Iaquinta, who wasn't even supposed to be fighting for the title. Where is Kevin? Lee is a way more likely. Ferguson got it from well Ferguson, Kevin Heavenly for the interim title because, but on our left but Kevin Lee prepared for Tony Ferguson, they met they fought for the interim title. And Kevin Lee is like a top contender right. We're allowing because, like he's a tough guy, obviously went five rounds of could be, Conor couldn't go, five rounds could be, and he you know he put up resistance. It was it was, is a good flight. He said he would never bring a title shot. No, maybe in the numbers discussion. Well he's fighting Kevin Lee if he beats Kevin Laney, that's
find a hotel? I imagine cat looked ally. Quinta is the jet he's very legit he's under rated like really under rated? In my opinion, yeah, I think, is the way he got up from could be taking him down nobody's been able to do that. He got up like pretty consistently took, very little damage on the ground wasn't wasn't could be, was never able to pound him out the way he pounded out Connor. If you go back and watch ally, Quinta versus Kaby Ban, Karna versus could be you realize how fun Good. I, like winter, is now just honored, there's nothing on the ground. Well, he didn't in that fight. He's really! That's that's! When Mendez took him down onto weeks notice and it was like a Pedia and gas Mendez would have beat him it's true. It's like he can't fight on the ground. Well, he did very well in the ground against MAX Holloway.
Which was a early in maxes career MAX is only like twenty one at the time, but I agree with you: that's definitely his weakest part of his game and the strongest part of cabs game. My point was just that Ally Quinta did not get beat up on the ground like that. Did not even close to being stopped, went full five rounds and could be in clearly won the fight but Ally Quinta. Provided resistance, an provided more of a struggle than Conor did honestly think. Some of the reason that's holding out like went back from the fans bing from them. Thinking of him as like a top is his name. It's just not. He has a name of somebody be like in the early round of MIKE Tyson's punch out, you say but if you start starching and world champions, nobody would give a fuck about his name. He went out there and destroyed could be an fuckin' head. Kicked him into another dimension. True good point, good point: nobody would yeah because I like how hot like celebrities are like. You would say that if he was in nine movies in like who I don't know, but Ryan Reynolds pretty hot, yet things like that really
Yeah, the moon, guys in the movie they even like day and people like good, looking like yeah, but even back then it was like, but it's like no he's fine for a convenience factor for comedian for super successful. So like. Oh, this guys hot. It's like not really not like a Jeremy, Renner over to him and commercial day. It was like good looking guy, but now people like some gorgeous. It's like that. Success is on that. That's true for gals and then find it doesn't work like that with girls at all. At all matter of fact, it makes him look a little gross if there are more successful Mcmahon Super successful and not that good. Looking like you know, it works,
if their gross looking and then they get successful like Joan Jett by con funk, Joan Jett now Joan Jett's hot yeah, Joan Jett's always been hot, but in Ellijay Harvey these women without their fame are like get away from Maine we're talking, don't jack. I love rock and roll put another dime in the jukebox baby. Get outta here, go put it down in the jukebox you're disgusting. I disagree strongly. I'm saying its only 'cause, we're famous grill. I always thought she was hot. I know you did but when I was in high school yeah. Well, she it's hot. When I was in high school, like Joan Jett's, probably one hundred and fifty five years old, yeah she's playing like Dewey Beach next week. She said the canyon club wish look like now she looks like, ok, well, that's a little issue. That's Sharon! Osbourne yeah! I think you have the wrong photo now! That's all I know of course, but I say: look like brother like no, no yeah! Well, you know Fucking Father Time Fox is on the ask. Damn it probably tired
yeah anyway. The reason I want to come on here talking to me yeah, it's because I had this unique experience that a lot of people I mentioned, sometimes and, like oh you've, been doing UFC and like to have been to like fifty of them and they're like how. It was just as cool thing where I guess your contract early on you got this deal, you get a free companion flight and a free companion hotel, and then you started inviting us and then we started. Comedy shows on Friday night after the way ends, and then it became like a thing yeah and sold these. As we do one big show and then go to the weigh ins and have an have a the actual UFC today, which is a fun weekend full of like doing something, stand up and also having fun. Well, how 'bout the classic example of you and dunk
kissing when speed. So that's actually good way to start with Stevie Dolly right wasn't boring. It was a fucking wrestling fight, it was boring, and so you can't wait until the camera came out here. There is on the ground, and I couldn't stop bothering posse. I wish I'd help him longer. It's Nate Marquardt that soon as yet Mark was fighting somebody yeah we were given Illuminati sign, Dunkin doesn't sit up there. Normally frosty was always really cool and it's up there make us feel welcome. You know, frost is great. Yeah great guy love, Anne and then Duncan was like. Let's give it a sign that he's up there, he doesn't really care about the sport, so we should look at the monitors saying that, seeing the Puckett technique of all available, it goes into like the fucking filming of it. It's like he funky yeah. We should give it a joint Lou, Menotti China, Joe Silva
People, are really really dumb people They think you guys are really in the Illuminati dug it has that people have been saying like you're in the Illuminati. I know you are you in rogue, and I I get people that I'm saying I'm in the CIA, that's great, that's great! What terrible upper of if they are it, could you imagine if that was the secret to my career, like I did, all the other stuff was just so I could just portray a normal person history of martial arts getting in with the U S c, becoming the commentators, some public, though, to be if there is an end up just to be it's like, so I can go deep, deep, undercover and nobody would buy yeah. I guess like what you just be better to be a garbage man like now. This is known as spec. This there's people that just want to believe the dumbest fucking conspiracies period. The dumbest conspiracies like there was some fucking guy. One of those Infowars guy that was
promoting some saying recently that Hillary was fifty percent reptilian. Fifty percent I've heard thirty percent. I believe it's fifty fifty is a well half. Yes, if you find that someone said she is fifty percent reptilian blood. Well, you know that was a Dave. Like thing for the longest time the reptilians remember he was saying he won't talk about that now, apparently he's angry. When people bring up reptilians 'cause, it's embarrassing 'cause. He was like. I couldn't believe that yeah, but it's a fucking fool, Hartwell and then he became way more mainstream and then the internet came along and people like, You remember that reptilian thing it's a crazy should allow you to have an answer for that either so yeah I was just making that up for whatever. When I was back early days of internet. Do I believed it right or like? I believe that now I
that was yeah. You can say that, but now I don't bring it up. Yeah there's I mean look, there's fuqing, there's real concern. You know that that story about that journalist that was killed by the Saudis this week, that's real, but it was killed yeah. They finally admitted that they killed him. Saudi said yeah, they said that they killed him in a fight which is, if you see the guy, you like farts, guys, not fighting anymore yeah right and some of the crown prince is top people. Top security people have been released, apparently probably gave him a fucking hundred million dollars and said: go chilling read somewhere wow. So I said one of them to was like died in a car accident. This week quote unquote taking a lot of journalists not a journalist really wanted this Infowars real news. Twitter banned after MSM outcry over Hillary satire. So as a satire piece, I just found Keith and I was like there's no way that this is really thought it was satire. Can I just tell you about about Hillary Clinton
This is dna test, proving she's, only half lizard person. All we have left that she she related to clear her name. Do you know, Lizabeth Warren release that thing that says that she's got actual native american blood, but it's literally like one one hundred one thousand eight fourth million trillions. While she has, like the smallest amount of your Ben Shapiro tweeted about that. What he said, Fuckjng we've tried to find it your great great, great, great, great Grand father yeah, but there was something else, but I forget what it was. So we could find it, but I think I'm one point: six percent ' african I did one of those dna tests. Are you really and I'm done, but standards? I think I'm at least ten times or African. Let her she is is native American. While I'm that's how ridiculous it is. I thought I might be wrong with these numbers
'cause Jamie now we're trying to work it out and we're both stupid as far as she released. That is like c instead of going like. I guess, I'm not 'cause, she was lying, but she was also It's probably her families like well, you know we have native in us and, like oh cool, but that does happen. Yeah people do check Jamie Jamie thought he had a gang Gangnam Native American. I'm eases chest. Does it do it's hard to prove his from what I'm trying to find out right? wait to do one of those tests. I just have to see if I'm over ninety percent- seven percent jewish under ninety seven percent, jewish mine- is almost exactly what I thought. It's mostly italian it some other european, like Irish and English. You gotta be part. Monkey yeah descending and a tall, I found the editorial in there yeah there's a selfie forty seven percent more than the average person is a south park on that number is
to prove that he was minorities who claim victimhood in order to take these swab your mouth. So of course he found a native American just said, making out with them and then swap- and I know like came up kind of weird but like ninety eight percent native American. So we need a blood test so prove he wasn't any minority except he was like two percent neanderthal and he goes to you why people out your reply. Great yeah. Stan Marsh is the great character yeah so anyway with duck. Then. So doing that. We keep trying to get on film and at ease. He could see the monitor. You know amount on your table yeah, and so he goes. You know next time we have this and I was like because, as a person I'm like, I don't want to do that, but it's a comic I'm like. Oh, I have no choice. Obviously that's the right move. You have to it's like goddamnit, Alright, I'm watching this fight, Tommy this time and then a minute ago now we just search tongues.
I mean yeah, we wrapped it around a little who got to enjoy it. Now. I don't think we touch dogs. Maybe we did, I think, I think it might have. Actually I think it was a real kiss that frosty just watching the monitor he's, not even looking at things like. I wish I had helped it along right in this. I thought it's over yeah you grab his face like you really loved him now yeah I did. He put his hand on your shoulder and sort of like submissive stance and look at Joe Silva. This fight is interesting, till seven guys hands crossed totally oblivious to the homosexual activity. Going on behind him actually make a living in a sponsorship. Yeah so they're going to short skirt and sponsor here, yeah people, that's a big selling point for Bellator for a lot of fighters actually make some cash. Well, there's a lot more money to be made, which you can get sponsors. I mean Schaub, making more than one hundred and fifty thousand dollars a fight, just short answers, yeah, yeah and that flag behind you afterwards, the flag,
find you the shorts. They quickly rushed up the t, shirt on and t shirts around the week of the fight. Like you know, people would pay you to wear all your training footage, oh really, yeah. I remember when the sponsor when they did away with it. The fires going hey come to, you know, whatever nightclub come to show we're going, be Charlie. I don't stop talking nightclubs, having Vegas yeah, but after parties. It sure sure someone's going to open up a shirt now and they're like hey guys. You can't do that anymore. It's gross. I think that I'm out of time. By the way I remember one of the earlier ones see I got to see, luckily not from when you were in the UFC, but middle range to where it is now of like all the fires were staying the same hotel and like we have the after party there, yeah we'd, all hang out yeah four my fans would show up who knew about it, but, It was a way you can drink with Keith Jardine and all these guys in late great times.
Eventually to make a decision like. I can't be here anymore, it's coming over on the fans, but for a while it was off yeah you doing. Car girls is champ. Two things changed: one cell phones with cameras all the time they changed because used to be. We just want to say hi. Then it was everyone kind of phone out and they all wanted to take a photo and they would wait for you in the elevator bank. So you get out the elevator and there would be fifty people there and you couldn't go anywhere. You always so late to the event like I can't I have to go. I should've left twenty minutes ago, but what about the fans and like I'm doing my job, my job for one million, so you for don't really matter how much running to the fucking way in these guys are starving to death right now and I gotta get there, I can't be late for the Waynes is televised know people would get so angry if you didn't take their photo, but it was good times. I remember in Sacramento there was a hotel bar there all at it was like this is freaking awesome or casually. You happen to get in a conversation
as with fighters. Yep yeah trainers, Della groggy people like that you just talk yeah, it completely changed. It completely changed as a well. Two thousand five is really what changed, because that's when the ultimate fighter came on when the ultimate fighter took off in the sport became, it just became much bigger, like almost with in a year, it was like significantly bigger and then it kept going and then two thousand like what was the Iphone two thousand and seven six ish. That's when shipped really changed with the cameras on the phones, men and then to eighty nine and then I was like. I can't do this anymore. I have to 'cause, we would do show number you would like. I gotta go to Danas hotel. Well, there is no way It was just too crazy. It's like you would get stuck, coming into the hotel. You get stalked, leaving the hotel people would find your door and knock on your door, but it wasn't like that not so fun. What's so fun, um yeah, we were there in the fucking Sally I remember you doing the weigh ins once in, I believe Fort Lauderdale, and this we
walking to there with the tap out guys yeah. I remember scrape telling me Scrapin mass thing like we found it. This is before the Iphone actually 'cause. He was like we found it awaited prank text, people. What you do is you put in ten different contacts of a text, all the same number and say hey how you doing and then they would just get ten individ Will text it's very just, keep doing that stupid yeah. They would take pictures but I mean we do in the way and I'm going and it was back. Then it was only the camp showed up now. Small yeah, it was just an up in a in a place. All you know not a hallway, but I got to like up the banquet Hall and you go. You almost brought you up. I think I wish she would have to do is get a break. Yesterday I was like I would've for sure got naked Shafir. Nobody would stop that now would be like haha. I would have gone up there waiting like a lot of the stuff. Like imagine if the UFC was going to hire me today and like watch one episode of the podcast, so it's getting fun.
John Major cleaning up a little bit yeah William would allow that it's me like yeah, I mean did like you, gotta, be kidding me, there's no way, yeah, let's get. Let's kick Jeff Probst. Yes, he knows a lot about MMA, there's! Really! No! No! That's not journals, work, yeah, but such fucking, wild West, crazy shit, and I was just getting it- is just starting with edit. You start paying for that, and so I could see the billboard at the Hyatt. Now. The on does looking over the comedy store, remember, saying: Liddell Couture two, I think yeah and people like. Oh, it's a fight What is that mean? Who are those guys and having taken like they actually fought an epic fight or it might have been three, I'm not sure they're going to have a rematch. Like oh cool. I didn't really know think about it, remember rolling at the old bomb squad and have people. Talk about like what is this thing that you guys were talking about. I remember hoist Gracie, but I don't know who, any of these people under the terms are using get
ground and, like it's all, it's all a question of matchups matches make more. I'm just like trying to get a half guard in how to do that. I rear naked choke good fast do you have pretty good? You got good? I remember you tapping people, I remember looking over and watch you tap some guys going. Damn it was fun fuckin'. If you brought brought bodies didn't break I'm doing jujitsu, it would be the most fun We do if bodies were way more durable, like next didn't give like I said, he's had three. Surgeries, am inside of the last year. He had knee surgery, he had his back disc, replaced in his back and then he just had shoulder surgery. It's like your body just gets blown apart. That's why meniscus. I had surgery, I didn't know it was for the longest time in your body, doctor, Steve, Steve, Graham yeah. He
oh mris, get false negative. Twenty percent of the time just tell him to scope it 'cause. I was like it's showing. Nothing goes. It's probably it's probably that just to scope it they went in there and found it did it right then, but when they did, it was like they were like come, what do you do? What might hurt it, and I was showing her junior high guard just like on the table myself and he was like, so I pulling my leg back like that. You know he's like. Why don't do that and I was like oh that's I have to do is party but like it. Why would you bend your leg like that? Like this everyday man? That's twice a week, they don't know what the fuck they're talking about. That's just a flexibility issue yeah, that never bothered. My knees really know now, if you're flexible, it's not scalable more than jets. That fits me yeah 'cause, I'm at We were doing some stuff like you were doing cleans and presses, and I was like, oh for God, doesn't ever lift weights. This is a pretty explosive movement yeah my technique, perfect. So then it's like really opening it up to like more damage. It's also when you, when you get sore
from doing something like that. You really should take along time off, like the real hard thing for people that are just starting to lift weights is the building process. It's like one of the things that we had talked about with this fitness challenge was lifting the most amount of weights and improving your max weight over the month. I was like ok guys, let's be let's slow down here, 'cause you guys, I mean I know Tom lifts weights a little. You don't lift weights at all. No, I do not. I live weights a lot and I'm like listen. If I'm going to improve my max things were running the risk of catastrophic injury like we're running the risk of tearing ligaments, also be bad for the contest somebody have to drop out yeah. It could fuck you up pretty bad. I don't lift Maxwell I lift like considerably less than my max weight and I don't go to failure. I do this, you don't get a failure. No, I operate under these principles of this guy Pavel tattoo Lean who came up with this company called strong first and what the idea is. Is you do less like say? If I can do
Seventy pound kettle bell and I can press it over my head fifteen times I don't do fifteen times I do six, five or six and then I put it down and I leave it alone for like ten minutes and then I come back and I do another five and I do low repetitions an unless I'm doing conditioning, in which case I'll use a much lighter weight and I'll do that. Camera saying yeah by cam does different ship was like forty reps of five. He has a bunch of ridiculous shit. He's a fucking maniac. You can't pay attention to him. 'cause. He does makes sense he's outside the norm. He doesn't make any sense. He doesn't get injured. He fuckin' runs marathons every day and he'll do hundreds of repetitions. Will do sets of twenty five like four years at twenty five yeah he like when he's preparing for one of those big races. He runs a marathon a day, Jesus yeah. It doesn't make any sense, but also you have to recognize that he built himself into that state over decades
Do you know marathon where it comes from yeah? It was a distance that they had to run to alert someone of something right and then God bless. His name is marathon or the guy who died after right after it's delivered the message and died, but it was more natural marathon. I don't think it was twenty six point, two three one hundred miles and this guy ran one hundred see if that's true the origin of the term, marathon that up origin, please thank you. Yeah pull that up by the way, so cam doesn't count yeah. I don't understand how he's not always hurt, but anyway she had less. Oh twenty five miles he joined announcing the fuqing adopted, defeated the Persians he just announcing a sports score wow. He was alerting them saying that guys name try his name, the soldier fit dip fit phidippides loose. Is that it is
Pities sure he's like. I don't know what you want. Man you're, the boss First Marathon commemorated the run of soldier phidippides from a battlefield near the town of marathon, Greece. The areas in four hundred and ninety BC, according to Legend Phidippides, ran the approximately twenty five miles to announce the defeat of the Persians to some anxious Athenians, but doesn't say that the guy died. No, it does not, but they died, see hot guys running, look up, see where the guy striking with his heel. It's wrong totally wrong. Not only is it wrong. Human beings never ran like that. For the invented the stupid shoes. I will try to buy or just say that before when you talk about the goat shoes, so I try to like lead with my with yeah yeah. Not so what is it? You fall? You fall I think, that's what you're supposed to lean forward more than when you lean forward more you strike down and you almost hit with your foot flat
but well you never want to do- is run like that asshole heel down! That's how people destroy their knees running and that was all created by Nike Nike created. That's too big bubble fat heel shoe because you know to give you more cushioning, but it's just the mechanics of it are totally wrong. If you ever watch little kids run, they run ball of the foot. First, that's natural! That's how you're supposed to naturally run it's! Your foot is literally designed as a shock absorber. I run with those minimal shoes. My shoes have zero cushioning zero, so I'm running mountains and hills, and she like that, even when I hunt it out glass week see these guys. Oh yeah, right on the ball, but yeah the black ones, the real dark black ones, who are good, they've run barefoot. Those fucking guys, but these, measure their landing flat straight. They do have a lot of cushioning on the issues you have to realize like in some of these guys are landing heal that guy in the background, heal first, and that's because of got damn shoes. If you didn't have shoes like that
there's no fucking way that guys all he'll see that last guy that guys all he'll. You never run like that. Against the mechanics of the human knee call it go back to that. What is a video that just come up to delete was a video that was just come up next to come up. There said Candace running cadence, cadence, okay, that that video like that's the only reason that people are running like that is 'cause the invention of those shoes. I mean you run quite a bit right now. I've I've seen the reason I look for that, because I've seen a video from the Olympics. I think it was last year they were showing long distance runners and all of them had a different stride. Summer running ball foot or for someone running heal. First, the winner was different, I mean it's also goes to all. Their bodies are different. They different well, you can run he'll first with those shoes and you can get away with it for a long time did the issue, is that's not the way your body is designed and the only reason
people, running like that 'cause those fucking shoes. You know, if you talk to physiologists and people study, anatomy and the look, the loads in the human name, there's a massive Matt loads. Her her is massive problems with running here. First, just not you're, not you're, not designed like that, I would say, though, just isn't disclaimer the biggest problem for most people who are probably doing is you don't run at all yeah? That's so so go ahead and get up talking and run and then figure out the exact right play remember when we trying to convince bird running on a treadmill is not the same as running and he was like no way and they tried real running. It was going so much harder dude. It is so much harder. Of course, the fuckin' treadmills coming twords you have to do is pick your legs up, but you know it's way better for me anyway, that I've noticed running on actual ground verse, verse, pavement ground his way, always on my joints and I can go longer. It gets a give or something it's like Brianna Court cork, but you can run on pavement no problem as long as you run up
So really there is total. So well, it's not that it's just not pounding when you're running uphill, because you're decelerating, as you catch yourself and you're, pushing off it's like you, lunges problem with that is, unless you're running a Dali painting, then it stuck in to keep running uphill. It's good point, good reference to the How many? How many dolly references his memory? Podcast, zero? the first one ever I walk downhill, basically will to work and then run up till a really. What kind of right I mean I go way slower down hill, it's just dangerous! It's bad for your joints! Yeah pound, like going downhill. Deceleration like running downhill and catching yourself like that. It's just not good, but the deceleration. Only when you it's even deceleration really, but when you run uphill, there's no pounding
because you're you're just reaching that area and then pushing, but it wears you out more but like your muscles but you're right, the joints. Okay, we're hike in the Alps is here. In July a man does up held like you really have to push button down hills like you're, pushing off yeah, and it's like it just hurts more, hurts like what it's enough to beat up your needs to really beats up. You need yeah. I found that elk hunting too, but the really the painful stuff with the down hill. You just stopping yourself, stopping yourself, stopping yourself yeah! also a lot of sliding and they almost like gotta push her foot sideways like so that way, it's almost easier yeah, that's why they have such stiff shoes when those mountaineer issues. It will come over the edge, get an edge and you could dig that edge into the ground. I got some good luck, it's for that, and it was like really good makes a big difference. I tried hike, being with these minimal issues. This last trip that I was on. I didn't like him. I wasn't a fan they're fine for running if I'm running on a trail, but for hiking, like the human body is just.
We have Bitchass bodies, yeah, also so weak with boots. You want to be able to walk into a creek without having to worry about like this is going to take my socks. The next four hours, yeah yeah, yeah Gore Tex, want Gore Tex lining up your boots by the way. So after that fight after that mean Duncan Kissing, yeah there was a blog when a pretty fast hits head to board clear to do is get made out of the UFC I just got a new phone, a new flippy and somebody I didn't know it was somebody text me like? Oh, you two were quite the media darlings last night, and I never I didn't know it was and then later look through my imessage zero. It was Dana, not mad. I don't think he does, but you never quite know. I know 'cause you're, like your ceo. Living this cool fuckin', regular dude, who curses all the time you're, also a ceo which is like no. I don't really get along with other gigantic sports organization, yeah that guy
it's interesting meeting that guy to dampen like dinners with them and like converse a casual conversation to listen to like a highly successful person how they like normally act. Once you drop the guard. You know it's just he's a super important dude for sure very driven yeah. He loves making deals and all the all the involved in it. But hearing you guys talk about like the fucking, heads of Boston, fighting and stuff like that up to meet finally met. I remember the story he told wants. It was like whoa well Boston, where Berdena came up and where I came up, the sparring was awful. It was. He sparred a lot in South Boston and uhm. I sparred in Summerville and in Revere and a couple these other places everybody would beat the shit out of each other. There was no real sparring and leaders. Only one are in Revere Revere Revere,
yeah they there was no you're supposed to spar wow. This is a lot of debate on this, but most people think you should spar at like sixty to seventy percent maximum everybody's part, a hundred percent and while they, but when they are, they just fought. Everybody fought everybody, a brain damage, hundreds That's my boss is how it is Harvard or you're a dork and the woman not the best looking you are on stage. You challenge me and we set up it's like one of these things that comics do where you say something like real dark. Just your comic friends and it like you, should do those stage, and it's like this challenge of like oh right, you already goes on stage the comedy connection in Faneuil Hall and I don't remember the exact wording of it The people who were like you know the problem with Boston is women are just really not that good. Looking
people like I love that training it so now I can go after a crowd like you can go up. Maybe one time being honest yeah, you know yeah yeah the way and that that you can see that in like in like Katt Williams, when he's shooting on Michael Jackson, who still here oh yeah and it was like Bill- goes. Thank you had children. Thank you. He's a molester, yeah that, go right at them. I don't care how you feel Bob justified in this super justified with that yeah I mean that was just some. So as I bought some women are disgusting, even if they're good looking their voices are garbage young naked, bonnet. Fuck me in my pussy man, your fucking queer uh. Those were one two men because like when we first started going on the road together like one of the more fun things was well, was: really Fun hanging out and doing shows, but it's also fun
saying like you can't get fired, kept do that was such an influential time. I stand up that specifically where it was like we're at the hotel, five minute walk from Farrell Hall and let's get high, and I was like no, about the performance data, crazy, kicking high right now, that's where I've been high. Twenty time may be right and you're like why like because I won't do go to go so I'm like what you mean. So it goes so quick, but then it goes. You won't get fired. They didn't hire. You can't play here its former fifty seats and also like it's too far for you to feature and just way too big for the headline. So I'm hiring you and I don't care if you get to plug up so smoke pot, and I was like yeah, you also wanted you to feel free and that there's these moments when you get high and you go on stage where and they don't always happen, but there are moments where you take a right turn into brilliant ville and that right
current doesn't exist, sometimes if you're sober you're, so we stick to the script, but if you're high yeah like so what if I did fuck my dog. Let's try it try this for a while. I don't know where you might come up with this premise or this tagline, or this thing that comes from you being in this altered state of consciousness, and you can't do it any comment listing. I would not advise you doing it on a big showcase. We have to show like William Marshall, when you're taping, something where it's important, but for workout sets when really trying to get work out of this. So so uhm back then I could get hot. Now you and I we get high for a couple hours, you know. Maybe then I was high. Nine hours. So anyway, We had two sets at night or Friday or Saturday night, and the first set was awful. I mean I forgot what I was saying. I had no idea where I was going. I remember it's not bad
no no parts of it were really fun parts of it, okay, but then by the second set. Now, then, you went on for an hour that we had a half hour break and then one again, but then I come down a little bit in the second set. When I was talking about free, the flowing you, to get high about an hour and a half before you go onstage stage not like right before I up and got a high right before. That's not that's not wise it's wise is an hour away down your. I know where it's gone and now you're closer, you know, EDGAR would do medical we're due for a while. He was on the the comedy, store and he would by all that you know your first hit of the day is like your biggest one, an cigarette smokers at this time to get a buzz. That first cigarette you know, but first we'd hit is the biggest one. He wouldn't smoke all day, he'd ever fifteen am spot and when they go hey Matt we're letting Tony Hugo go cool, run to the main smoke, a bunch in that three minutes and then go on
oh yeah. He be going up and feeling it while he's out like it won't even him until he's two minutes on oh jeez yeah. He did that for like six months. That would be good, if you add notes, and if you follow, what you talked about already, that's right. So when the play clandestinely or comedy underground, the call in Toronto. Well, that place is great. It is the I'm like. I'm like any of us, like my advice, is bring a set list. I normally don't say that, but this is one you will not lose your place to their there's no air in that room. Once green was only pot like you were breathing pot and x hailing pot, is all there buddy manolas. He was like I don't smoke and then he's in the back for twenty minutes like to him: hi schitt, yeah, Tripoli, Tripoli, wasn't getting high back then, and yes, you are, it is, and why are we? He was barbecued? That's why I started to believe. Secondhand smoke is a real it's fucking, talented thing. It was until then people who don't think it's really great when we used to mock, take state. Didn't want to get high weed to smoke
it would have to stick his head out the window like an ostrich. I feel like he was worried. He want to get hot boxing. If that's, when we used to get vans, remember used to get conversion, yes version Van yeah, we vans, read Vance Design, any of us yeah. You can't even tell you could come yeah we entourage. It would feel meant we would have mannequins in every town. We went to bring you of course, and then Eddie, Tate and red as the non comedians me in Dunkin or me and Diaz or whatever there's a shitload of us. Yes, fifty six people and then we would feast we go. These fucking amazing restaurants. Fogo a lot. A lot of photos, Cincinnati was nearby right near the hotel, was it ok to Muscaria right across the street yeah and as leaving
newly botoxed. Wednesday came in like dude, that's bucking Mandalay, and he was he was the most fierce pregame fighter. The way he'd look at you like, I want to kill you protect, this fight yeah. Nobody was scary that him and his prime Crocop is scary because he would just be so calm like I don't care. Let's do this prokop stared him down more than anybody ever stared vandalay down he wouldn't break, could move crow. Cop was a straight up killer. As head of the Croatian yeah croatian Anti terrorist squad. They beg for mercy and I've showed any. Is a world class kick box or he wasn't afraid of them really strike any was a heavy weight in Van really really wasn't a heavyweight yeah, but anyway we saw, and then we went to eat. He was in that who has Korea fifteen minutes late, like he threw his ship down and came in here, like so excited about it. Look look at Crowe COP wow, yeah dude, nobody stared down Crowe cop back, then that was when Crowe COP was at the peak
he's going through his retainers. Like Bach, and I'm pretty sure this was before CRO cop really had sort of mastered MA. He was coming over as a straight boxer and they had different rules for him. The rules for Crowe COP were like you can only fight on the ground for like thirty seconds they had earlier yeah and if the fight went to a distance, it would be a draw SAM yeah because he really didn't have a lot of experience to take down the for answer. Any mma fighting back then and the didn't get, talk, see his face, reconstructed 'cause his nose. He had been in so many brawls. His nose had completely flat and he couldn't breathe out of it and he had so much scar tissue over his eyes that his eyes were drooping down, so he'd get cut instantly any any him would but I'm up like a crash say any in his nose was completely flash. So they took a chunk of his rib and rebuild his nose and he had his nose build big, so you breathe out of it more and then he had all the scar
fish removed from his eyebrows and then pull back and according to Dana? I don't know if Dan is like you got it done in Brazil, on the cheap and just like The didn't really make him look like Vanderlei wow, so he went from Only Silva's like Vanderlei Silva is the most profound facial form change in all of mma 'cause. He went from pretty it go back. He's answering Silva Vanderlei Silva versus, go to vandalize Silva versus Dan Henderson one. When they first fought in pride. He he was a normal, actually pretty good. Looking guy like regular good looking guy and then by the time he left pride, his face was just smashed in by the time he fought Chuck Liddell his face. Was just smashed and his nose had been literally flattened and for from punches and kicks, and not just from fights, but also from training the training that he did it. The box. In Curitiba was. Was that also
Ok would bring me to another thing: we got to go to Brazil, one we didn't do a show that time, but that's that's him versus Dan Henderson Preferable looking to make that little bigger. So you could see yeah super normal. Looking the normal looking badass, that was the first fight or you thought Dan Henderson, Henderson's Chin looks like it was drawn on yeah he's gotta put somebody shut up, tickle his drawing it bone yeah Jay Leno Ninja, see that picture of vanderlei above that with the eye all fuckedup. That was him from that fight, oh really, in Henderson, connected with a haymaker of a right handed Fuckedup. His other guys smiling that, like look at this bat, look at this cool picture on by the take, but you mean looking vandalize face there in comparison to his face later on his career totally different Dan Henderson looks exactly the same. He looks like the same guy he's just another version he might want to tell us guys there lived so tough yeah Dan is just
deliver that picture up there with the tattoos on the shoulders go to that one. Now, that's him. After facial reconstruction make that larger see. That's after the facial reconstruction is settled in you know. We saw him right then, and he just fought real recently a couple weeks ago. Nobody still fighting got knocked out by rampage. Rampage flatlined am wow. Just a fun too yep rampage still carries a power that was when he killed rampage, killed him in the UFC knocked him knocking him through the ring through the rain pride was one of the coolest yeah. I saw that I mean I you know way later, as you come to the UFC in, is like all the highlights. This backlog of highlights of mma yeah, especially if the of the purchase price yeah yeah Rio was really cool, yeah place to go and actually dot fight that terms of the audience response. The two biggest ones were:
Sylvia Couture in Columbus first time, they've been in Columbus and that real fight they all the verses that was Chad, Mendes right, which one the one in Brazil wasn't it. It was a spinning back kick That was Terry, Adam verses at some Barboza suit from date from fight one of the undercard races, so that you could feel it shaking, and I remember them begins chanting, something in the clouds Dana. That smart is one of the first like porn ones, and he made a brazilian fighter on every every fight. Yeah, the a little by having a couple times, brazilian first brazilian butt at every getting something in the audience I yeah you were like you translator, like what did they say, they're going to die. It was like, oh, my god, oh my god, yeah they don't play game oh my god, that's when they were like legit, and I believed it like. We gotta figure out how we're going to Chelsea in and out of here fights Anderson here and I might come on, and then you go there like. Oh, I believe it now yeah. Well, there was fiercely.
We fiercely nationalistic and also that's where MA started. I mean really MMA martial arts starred in the Orient they started in Japan in China and but in terms of like legitimate mixed martial art. Valley, Tudo, those no rules fights that's all from Brazil, men, Brazil, change, Jujitsu mean you leave airport and that these giant, like Jujitsu guys in keys looking at each other. Like it's of the organization for their it's huge over there, an I had on Rafael of Auto who's, like one of the top is on digits of fighters in the world who fights for Bella, tore now and he's actually american from Oklahoma at Pfizer. You know and really represents presented, but he was saying that, like four the longest time the Brazilians dominated the world championships, he was one of the first can someone a blind man, the world championships, but for the this time, like evens to this shirt, the Brazilian still like have a disproportionate number of
man, listen, that's in them right, yeah, yeah, huge part of the culture and they're so proud. You know so proud that one of those places ever so I remember, also went to Australia to Sydney and uh. We did do a show, then. Actually we did two shows that was cool but uhm. It was in your contract, first class companion ticket way before or we were ever going to go to Australia for that yeah and then just as the UFC groups grandfathered in, and so I remember Dana coming up to me. Half joking and half serious, just going trip ticket cost twenty five thousand dollars dude! That's how much I pay for you to go to Australia, yeah! Those are good times yeah. I was like I almost like Bro put me in coach and give me twelve of that I could use the body will split the difference to suffer for fourteen hours for twelve Grand Cherokee yeah yeah. Those are like apartments. You have like a little apartment.
Practice now, Segura told me he cute in your before. He was like dude get ready. It's going to be so good to keep you socks that I jerked off into such a fucking cool grand experience. Yeah you can do a lot of fucking. Ufc's live man, my wet too. Let's talk about Anderson for a little bit 'cause. I believe my very first UFC was at the pearl. Yes at the palm's. I think it was, Anderson burst Christlieb? And yes, it was fun, fight yeah, I guess Anderson. It might be buy the UFC and people like how touted, but not crazy, like he's the best just like so I knew who he was, and I was telling everybody like whatever the betting line is it's off show me that on on yeah, I couldn't really tell you go take money on this. Yeah put all you know, he was a little early in the undercard debate will and Glover Foot Kyle Kingsbury yeah, and Just like people don't know- and you know there was a lot of us. It doesn't matter who wins he got
deal man 'cause. He couldn't get a visa to fight in the UFC for a longer results for six years for six years, clover, had to toil and other countries. He was one of the best. Ever he was fun, phenomenal back. Then man- and I think you know we got him in the UFC is at the tail end of his greatness. Honestly, I mean, I think we never really got a chance. Glow over at his very best in the UFC Kind of Jackie Robinson like we're just that's would have been if There is a chair or something like that, he's one of those guys that I mean I remember when he fought so could you he thought so? Could you I think it was in the WEC in the early days WEC when it was in northern California yeah and yeah he was Chuck Liddell sparring partner and it was one of the rare times that he got to fight in the US and remember watching him fight, and I would hear about him. I think him and told me about him too 'cause. He was training with Chuck and I was like that guys. A mother,
blocker. He is so good. He was so solid and he was like you know: training with Hackleman and training with Chuck Liddell in the early days. When you know they are, savages man and his head wrestling to. It was one thing that a lot of Brazilians didn't have. There were more digits to oriented and he was a wrestler as well Babalu Babalu had a real good wrestling base. To probably the first remember, making money by leaving the UFC, he was one of the Thank you guys so I'll get paid as a UFC Vet. I have a name I'll, get paid a bunch off this fuckin' chuck fight. You know I'll get paid a bunch of the rest of my until everybody started going and then it's like it wasn't worth that much anymore. Yeah! That's why you got Strikeforce opened up. You know. A lot of people realize that there was like there was a legitimate venue and they were on Showtime forces on Showtime seen you look man when Kimbo fought there made. Also it was a big
if you can do that was a lead, Exe mother check that went onto a Krono, genic Rado and they were like making these people and that's actually, where you've heard about Cyborg yep yep, yep yeah, there was delete and yeah and then you know and strike force. Those were too legit venues outside the UFC that really kind of because the UFC wasn't as bad back then, and then they were pretty legit. There are more, you could get it. You don't have to pay per view. It right. You could actually just watch them, which is what Bellator has gone for it too, but now Bell tours on that new thing. Does own Dazn? Do you know that isn't? Well what they're doing is they're splitting it's like a streaming service, they're splitting half the half the fights Bellator on Paramount, which is used to be spike. Now paramount. Half the fights on this Dazn Network. What's crazy? Is that
Dazn Network just gave Canelo Alvarez three hundred and sixty five million dollars. They just gave him this giant deal he had ever fighters in no canal, just one okay, just be triple g r on consider outbox and you know sandbox. You know I fully left at work. We went to your place once your old house me, you Eddie, I don't know, maybe a couple. Other people were watching some pride stuff that you Dv Ard, write an it cut off the last fight 'cause it. Long as right now we watch Box was gone and after launching two hours of m, and then you see a guy get knocked down. There's like go to work in a word and get up to like what the is that so much hugging and talk in a box. It sucks it's great. If you watch really good boxers
and if you know you're going to go, see boxing yeah right right, Yellow Alvarez Fight that happened a couple of weeks ago. It was a really good fight, yeah, with a really good fight. I thought triple g MA. Well, that was a real close right, but if I was going to give it to someone, I think I would have given it to triple g It was close enough where you can go. Ok, this isn't a robbery but good with the decisions, but leg kicks and and and makes fighting more interest. This is just way too many fuckin', let's see what the judges said. No, so nobody really one they just got just did better yeah in order to beat a guy right. Rarely happens, which is rarely it happens, less yeah the thing about Pacquiao Mayweather was like me, kept fighting right. So what if we decided right right right, yeah, twelve rounds, it could have gone. Twelve. I'd like to early prime, like the early UFC with like voice, is like getting a family for thirty five minutes right and then we'll see eventually I'll fuckin'. Wear you down, yeah, that's what Nate always
as a kid. This is war, you'd be dead yeah, you know yeah with their children. Without a cap choking you yeah and then just put a dyin on twist your neck yeah, I mean if, if someone came along today in did no time limit fights, I wonder like if you had like three big, no time limit fights yeah like Nate versus Connor, John Jones versus DC, and have just every giant fights and I've no time limit to fight it very interesting everything to go into that kind of a fight. That's a different feeling like would hoist, went into in those early days, the UFC. It took a lot of abuse just to get like past garden. That's like eight minutes late. He takes so slowly moved yet we're not in a rush. It's weird how it changes your fight plan based on this outside influence. Well, people also have to remember hoist fought guys
we're so much bigger than massive, like chemo chemo and came out. Like was a giant roided did up, dude was hitting them with bombs and and hoist is on its back and finally caught him in an arm bar and then couldn't continue. He couldn't fight. After that, yeah. He was the first to fight later and he couldn't fight he. He was just he couldn't fight in the in the next fight. He was is to better at tournaments right, gash, crazy, the complaint twice in a night. There were three times and I have yeah. There is there's a look out. John big John outlook, so my Jesus Christ he's not even born facial hair. His chemo chemo was giant. I mean he was so huge at Jesus tattooed on his stomach. Look how big he is damn yeah that was a crazy asss fight man. That's when I was like what is this whole sport. Remember getting it my friends like yeah college, dorm's, health and Housing Gracie in the back. I mean that was
hand. Man knows the the Gracie clan, who was the grace that was supposed to be, but they're like you're still good, it'll, everything up, Hicks and but the the thing about it was not just to kick. Some was too good, but also that Hicks and would listen like no one could control Hickson like yeah, because Korean created the? U of c and the horror in is the oldest pro there're Horia Nelson, I don't know, I'm not sure which one is over there right at it. There was no feeling each other out seventeen seconds in a fuckinf on well had to do that. I mean he had to close the distance. Get ahold of the door opened he's like wait. Wait, wait he's like oh fuck, this is sucky yeah there you go yeah and chemo his wrist but not as knuckles, crazy, bare knuckles. I forgot about that. Bare knuckle, stomps soccer kicks. You could do anything back, then you can kick in the balls, you can knee in the balls. You can hold it down like that. So remember that guy just kept wailing in the balls thirty times so much guys. Alright, alright acne wow, Keith Hackney versus Joe son. He fucking balsam
Joe son went to jail for rape right. He went to jail for Russia yet and now and the murdered his cell mate. He went to jail for a gang rape. He was they arrested him for something else, and they did. A dna test accounts found out that he was a part of a gang rape. Damn yeah, look how skinny Big John John is so small. He just John there without looking so sexy, I gotta model. This is ninety three right, so this is a long asfuck in time ago, man with twenty five year, yeah and hoist like head but see that hoist with the head butt. Yeah. It's like. I got to look at Stephanie's in the balls and please talk down, so I can do what I need to do. Well, I mean he really didn't have a wrestling background. Now you see how high is hips. Are you know he didn't? He didn't drop down and go for a double who is basically a wonderful sized yeah, he's basically clinching and then hoping he get to fight to the ground with a trip and there he goes and then, when he tripped him, chemo wound up. On top of him, which is hilarious like this flattened out had his back is terra,
tearable position blue hoist instantly turn. This is just happy that he's on the ground, yeah dude keep wrestling with me I'll fucking get you, but look at this chemo is riding his back, but chemo is made. Eighty or ninety pounds heavier than them. It's a lot to get off your back which was like one hundred and seventy five becky to one seventy one hundred and seventy five. What about what the Gays Lee two fifty? He was a big fucking guy man in the snow. Back of the head, so he's got a What's up with distance, I know like and also I was holding on to hoist is G yeah, but now look you fuckedup, because they are tired, wide open God, and then he just didn't even tried yeah, but he bucked him off just from sheer size, yeah but chemo just got exhausted, because when you're that big, if you don't have like a real rigorous strength and conditioning program, you just get fucking no idea. Oh no armbar but looks not
not a sloppy he's, tired man he's carry this big guys, wait and again. They didn't have strength and can be back then they were doing this is all can't wait another advantage. Just he didn't cut any way other than others have no shared about nutrition, mean in ninety three. Now remember he got ahold of that hair and he got a fistful of hair hair start punch him in the really Chris. This is for the arm triangle. There now look at this, so can get a fistful of hair. It's not letting me get this he's better at your hair up Michigan here, because you try to be sexy that Tong po bullshit but you know this: is we learned so much about martial arts from these fights? Yes, everyone we have these ideas like would work and what wouldn't and then once they did. That is oh. I have to work on my ground and then that if all of that involved involved, ill opened up, Jujitsu schools worldwide everywhere and everybody wanted to be a Gracie guys were changing their name to Gracie. Guys were like marrying gray
he's just to have the Gracie name guys and marry a female Gracie and then change their name to Gracie, and it was crazy. It was a difference. I mean you making a million dollars you make enough and nobody wanted to go to Fred's. Just to it was to be a part of the greasy Adam me, you know, like he's got a, let her on the ground. What is that? Oh, it's her chemo's hair. If he pulled a fistful, fuckin' her and pulled it out, yeah what the fuck they're both so tired. Is it bad, and this is only four minutes in how long is a psycho? I think it went seven minutes. I have to remember exactly it's crazy they're, both so worn out. It looks like it's more looks like it's. What's that James Andrew here, it's about to end here, four hundred and twenty two oh hey. He catches. Him keeps going for the armbar, the triangle and eventually I'll go over here. He gets. It was like four hundred and twenty eight is catching the arm bar. So this is like first row I wonder I wonder if you have c today, even knows what he's going for here always does Okay, now keep.
What are you doing? I don't get it. I think he more tap 'cause. He was exhausted than anything like look at him. He's exhausted. Yeah, yes, may bear got the arm bar for sure, but I mean barely, but then voice was so beaten down by this fight that he couldn't go on, but Hixson would've destroyed chemo. It would've been completely different thing because Hixson was strong Fachman an Hixson was there's Jose on Hixson was a different animal like Hixson was much more physically imposing He was about one nine thousand two hundred pounds. He was smaller than chemo, but he was jacked like their bodies. Looking to suck in his body is just like wrestler body Well, emotional, Marshall, wrestler body yeah, more body there yeah yeah yeah. Where is just if you saw t shirt off. You would think that your fighter a wrap you up like a fucking package, so back to Anderson, though till so my book ends with him. Are that firstly-
fight and then shattering his leg, which I was in front row for which you didn't, even even if it didn't make sense to see a leg, would like that you like, I, don't I don't get it. It looks like somebody filled up a sock with with pebbles and just like you have to get something else like that. Doesn't make sense I it was so gross, but in the interim seeing that first Shell Sonnen fight when he I mean he won four half a half rounds. Just he almost won the title and then to I mean it was a such a legendary sports thing, not UFC, but sports thing guys down like crazy. In a title I don't know, who's never been tested was finally tested and was losing. It was over. This guy could chess on him was beating him. He figured him out and then to get out, try go with what forty seconds left. Two minutes. Let not much- but I remember
what's so clear indelible in my head- is afterwards we're at the entrance of cleared out of the stadium where at the entry to the to the under the the caves of the of the stadium, wherever it was, and do, I think Dana Randy was there and we're all talking? and every once in awhile somebody's mind would go to that fight, and you just see him well like yeah yeah. I think the weather is pretty nice here and then you see something like like you. Believe right, I never sing Randy could toward do that. What it's like? Why do this four minutes in the fight grabs, a hold of it or four rounds in the fight grabs a whole It syncs up the triangle and gets a triangle. Armbar combination tab some wow. This is an Anderson, came into that fight, injured, here Anderson had a fuckedup rib entering into that fight and a lot of people thought he should have pulled out. What kind of weird edit is this? Well, the blurriness
only strange fan and it was nuts. It was not for that. Guy see how he's holding his side and the mode the first I was. The first trash talk, fight ever remember to chills. Sun and people forget how good he was a talk and she was the best the best he was the best. When I come hum it. When I Anderson Silva walks into the ring, you can hear a mouse piston on cotton, when I walk in it's thunder, I mean but the promos he would cut yeah we're just the that hadn't been done yet now, not a lot. Well, Conor, Mcgregor Problem, you know it's arguable, The chair was even better than Connor but his argument. But if we take time period into account, no one was doing right. He was the first yeah and he was building up fights as a heel for the first time ever. Anne brought in a little bit later, but people forget how good chill could fight. If you go back to really to me his one of his most impressive victories was Nate Marquardt because he fought Nate Marquardt would midnight was one of the best and he rag.
And it was a bloody, crazy, chaotic fight- and he you know, he basically dominated him with wrestling yeah chill just fall. Last week he just got it out by fade or damn he stopped by fate or yeah, and you know he had some good moments in that fight had phaidor. Back, he tried he tried to roll them over there's a move that you do go through the chin. When you have someone's back, you go under the chin and then you somersault over and try to carry with momentum, try to carry them over, but It's a core strength, move your head and arm. Well, you yeah. He had he had back and he was kind of like riding high on the back and he went he felt like he I had a grip under the Chan. I don't know how he held his hands, but what you do is when you have guys back you, you hold it like this and then you go forward. So you take them for now with you that way, you have their back. When you're on your back, you could cinch up a body
triangle. You could cinch up the choke but fade or shook him often beat the bugs on the ground watch it. He does it. So he tries to flip him over seat, but he lost far. He lost control and then boom haymakers coming down from one of the greatest ground and pound experts of all time. Giant difference that was getting out of also you know: Cheil fought one hundred and eighty five Fay doors been heavyweight. His whole life. It's like you know, there's a lot of factors in there, but yeah. It was a good fight for as long as it landed long. It last rather one of the cool things, cotton is the bill ability to hang out casually with these fighters like having just breakfast with Randy I am not having with another time to do the remember one time I was like going into a buffet or whatever, or the hotel like free breakfast and like looking around and just having him go ahead. Some of my yeah, I'm like ok, just like oh you're, just such sought after and I'm just like. Well, talk about nothing, but some of my favorites were in Chicago.
Going the way ends and then like, let's go to the show and then just jump drive, Clay, Guida his city, it's his city, yeah and he's like come with me like, and you holding holding off the front seat as he's swerving with a brown paper bag. He drives like he fights and I'm just like. I accept it. So either way does it matter and he just going for it on these highways. He knows and I believe the rain and it was just like it was just like so fun yeah the one that I remember early early on Jon Jones. He wasn't anything then it's four maybe something like that meeting am talking about Shitan. I could talk about this now because it's not no longer a band saw since they have saved but like talking about weed yeah and was like yeah, let's smoke bro, he wasn't anything, it wasn't any
and just going like he's like he's, got like a Rogan's, got it in his hotel room and texting you flip phone texting you back when it wasn't cool to have like hip to have a flip phone was like that's all anybody had that's how long ago right and then it's going like. Maybe it's then maybe early Iphone, but like just hey man. Are you up, like I'm kind of time, going to sleep and was like FUCK John? I think he's doesn't want us up there and then like no, let's go he's got the weed. Let's go because some fan gave it to us right. You had this button tin, tin, foil of weed and and not going Do you like what you like? You were tired and it was like to have that we'd like to come on. I want to sleep like man, John want to smoke and, like you looked at you open the door fully and looked at me in this young fighter and you're like come on in
and we all smoke pot together in this hotel room in Fuckin', wherever it was. I think Montreal actually was Montreal yeah yeah and it's just a fun type and then seeing this guy move on to become the baddest motherfucker, planet, but we also had a conversation with him about our wanted him to go to a different camp. That's right, he was training in fuqing Youtube videos in New York yeah with his buddies in a garage you too good MIKE. You should be in a real. Can that's right. We had that over weed in hotel room he's like I think so I know so. I know I go. I only have a certain amount of time in this thing I go in your time should be invested with a real. Coach who's going to hone your skills I go, you could be at all time great man wow, yeah, I remember telling him that he's like you really think so I know so. I know so you really gotta move on. I forgot about that part of it. How influential is that in the fucking future of mixed martial arts? I hope it helped You know he did. He wanted Winkle John yeah Judge John eventually I mean you probably
I have done it anyway. You might who knows, but I think it was a good convo. We should have with a young guy. You know it's like listen man, you You have real talent like you, could really be something, but you gotta be you gotta, be coached by guys who are going to find out your tendency bouncing technique. Isn't worth isn't going to go. Take it that far! Well, I mean suck, and he was so good. Who knows how far you might have been a world champion even with the camp that he was in yeah, he's so good and is red, really so powerful and he's so physically talented, but it made a big difference for him to go to Jackson's and be able to train on a regular basis with world class fighters. You happy in there on a daily basis with Carlos Condit, who is you know the Papa's game back then, and that's right I mean Keith Jardine and they just had a massive.
Had ruined Taylor made the call to the ring of fire where you go five rounds of sparring with to get ready for a fight with different high level. I mean highest level fighter, so like Nate Marquardt, cool, that's around one get out of here charging you come in and now I just finished a fuckin' routed network. Right now I gotta go with Keith Jardine cool round three yeah I didn't get out Jon Jones, you come in and it's like what I mean the train you got there correct Johnsons Camp were like well yeah. I mean look, there's a reason why so many extreme high level fighters are coming out there and then Rashad Evans was there as well too and were shot had a real problem with John coming there, because Rashad was like hey this guys in my weight class yeah, but you're going to have one guy these weight class and right it's an issue. Yeah and then you know Rashad and John became friends, and I thought they did fight. They wept. Yes, they fought and John beat the shit out of him. I don't remember they thought after they had
Big falling out because were shod was upset that you know John wound up John wind up getting a title shot and beat Shogun because you were shot got injured, were shot, was supposed to get the title shot John steps in and they were friends at the time and then somewhere along the line. Then the trash talk started. You know I'll fight, Rashad suck it in, and I was like man. I thought we were friends and then yeah. That's back when I was like you know, you guys can fight as friends. We don't you don't have to like at enemy everybody fight, it's it's a sport and it's a yeah. It's a money thing and then, when John beat him it was a real drubbing and it was for five rounds. It was a decision and it was a real, clear cut unanimous decision. He did some crazy shit doing like step in elbow to the face right, yeah yeah, I kinda do remember this one now this was John when he was developing. John, like the John, that knocked out DC.
Everybody sang in fights- I didn't really ever see this for the fighters were, he would talk about after wins. Talking about the holes, the monkey hat you have more than the. What he did right was most guys would be braggadocio, my number of that, but it was like he was upset at things that went wrong yeah. I guess I got a call that out that could get exposed on her. You know, John, the smart due to me as reckless chaotic, as he is, and I've said this before that. I don't know what causes that kind of recklessness, but there is a direct correlation between traumatic brain three brain damage and impulsive behavior and recklessness it's a fact. It's well researched. It's it's well documented in neuroscience. They know that this this is it there's a connection I don't want to exonerate him from his past. Behave here, but we see that in football players we see that in Bmx riders that go crazy and fuckin' land on their head a bunch of times people they get crazy wow they get
filed an impulsive. It's just a fact. It's just a part of the game. You know those people that engage in any kind of an activity where you bring its rattle on a regular basis. The way more likely to do ridiculous things that don't make any sense. Does it make sense yeah, it does I said about John even talk to John about it. You know- and you know I know John was upset with Maine after one of those things before we actually did a podcast together he was upset, and I said, listen man. I have to be honest about every I have to be honest about how I feel about every single aspect of your performance of your behavior. I have to be doesn't mean I don't love
yeah. I mean I don't think you're great God. I hate to give your commentary on. I have to be you don't really choose sides. I can't I can't. Not only can I not choose sides, I have to call what I see it's it's everything because of I don't know the no one's gonna. Listen to me. This is because I have a comment on the hood. Okay. Well, I remember finding interesting that, after Brock B Heath Herring yeah, this went to whatever steak house. You want to he's coming in afterwards and for looking right at you said like it wasn't good, you are the content, critical of them right. He sought you out as a talk to you and I was like oh fuck he's mad, but he's like he just wanted to express to you. They have his leg injury and that's why I couldn't really defend that takedown yeah, but it's interesting how to fighters that I get to see these fighters respect your opinion enough. To want to explain their side of it. Well, I appreciate that there's, always a side like was talking about that fighter. That has pretty significant injury that he's dealing with right now, like
Most people don't even know and they wouldn't have known if he didn't tell you, there's a these guys are going to fights in the really compromised. You know there hand, injuries back injuries, neck injuries, and this is just a part of this. The sport, where you're the whole objective is to injure people. So you're, injuring each other in training, an you know, you got to hide those injuries, because then they will exploit them right, yeah, but then there's. But this is why. One of the reasons why I have to be honest, all the time is because people they respect the fact that I'm not going to I'm not saying things because it sounds cool. I'm saying things 'cause. This is actually what I see and it may be You have a different perspective and maybe you could share your perspective with me and I'll. Tell you why I thought this and maybe I'll change my mind and I'm not scared to change my mind but well how to say what I think yeah and it's cool, though
like interesting or something else just so you know I mean I had. I would never ask Heath. Herring would be a pushy, but let's just take care that you know the real truth of it, but not that it was bad. But, like here's the reason yeah, it was interesting how they respect your opinion, like that. Well, kinda like bra closer man. I swear that if Brock Lesnar got into the into mixed martial arts right out of college well, it went college wrestler right into training, really learn striking and learned. Slowly like took some small fights on Jones, said yeah, yeah and then but really learn striking, instead of like spending all that time doing, WWE, which I'm sure he made a fuckload of money or yeah. I mean good for him. That's all great and everything like that, but man, I think he could have been one of the all time greats do. A reverse is for long no way out freak nobody. I member cutting that much to have you wait. There is a giant yeah, it does doing so would weigh in with their jeans on because our whatever I am was also. There was no testing back.
I am going to realize that the testing back then was Horsh and the way to the best way to to show testing with Horsh. It was to show when Alistair Overeem fought Brock. That was the steroid olympic. Those two guys together inside the octagon. But there was also Brock. Less than a year from diverticulitis where they had to remove. I think twelve inches of us, crazy, media, colon or as well. And a mediator. I thought it was at the time that I talked to out of all people. Anthony Bourdain told me now, people get diverticulitis from seeds or really it'll get stuck in your intestines, so they had rock yeah. Well, just things get caught and stuck on they had to remove twelve inches of his intestines so that He was done after that wow
he was and then he came back and he was done as yes, the Brock Lesnar that everybody feared well. He he says that he was compromised even before that he said he was compromised before the cane feitan before a lot of his other fights, even the fight with Shane Carwin from diverticulitis like who is suffering from it from along for a long time, and he just thought that it was just exhausted from training. But really he was having this block. Page and all this issue like this Jesus yeah, it's fun talking to s two hundred and fifty six is incorrect by the way. That's not true when he when he was two hundred and sixty five. If you look at Overeem was over and was two hundred and sixty five as well, and if you, look it over him on the scale for that fight. There's there's there's that's a great picture of the two of them facing down once he's is Chrysler, both so jacked so bitter. But it's not like there's six hundred and ten when Overeem my height yeah up
When Overeem was standing there flexing on the scale like what in the flock, is he are like right there, what the fuck dude wow and I'm like, really flexing hard. He still smiling jacked yeah. He is so jacked He was so was friends, trainers, name or managers, name to Paul White oh ed source source, yeah and we're tasking like about the product, ok, like oh tested for steroids in pride and you're like what they tested for stairs. Yeah, I mean they didn't do anything about it. They just they test it with like you're, both positive go fight. Who cares yeah well according to Ensign anyway? Not only do they not test in Prod they put in the contract, we do not test for steroids.
But he said they tested and then just like. We don't give a shirt because we want to know, I think they test they took. They took tests, but they didn't really test yet damn those guys with big egos bring card girl that she was so young which ones that go Rilla. He was a goal. Rilla son Jesus yeah here he should, he should have known not see in the war he's missed his calling. It would have been one of the most feared nazis. There were honestly if he, if I could not see I would have voted for the team. He was a Viking Nazis did he would have been one of them boats with a dragon in the front. By the way I mean under rated Jon Jones for a weed head, I mean you, it gives all the credit to Fuckin' Nate Nick they've earned it yet, but when you would give a fuck it, those breast strips half a strip was a dose that's right and uh playing who's like how you got it. One of my finest complements was John Jones. I heard somebody else goes. How you know Johns always goes order should fear.
Great we'd help bucking. Yes I'll. Take that I gave him a package of breath strips and ate the whole petrol back. Half of what you like to do stuff is the dose he took two and you like. Don't do that he's like Joe Rogan I'll, be fine. He was fine. I was so scared for him. I was paranoid because I gave Tommy buns a half and we flew in Florida and he told me he goes dude. He goes. I swear to God when we landed. He goes. I didn't think I was going to make I've had one of those with you before. I really thought I really thought I couldn't make it. I really thought there's no way, I'm going to be able to survive this flight, I'm going to freak out, I'm going to have in Lansing, I almost told a stewardess before we took off Ios. I was close to black diamond we're not doing nothing. It's nothing! It's before I wear on the runway We think that stop me from doing it is knowing the abuse I would have taken from you verbally next two years, then I'm like I'd rather die. I love those days. It was so fun I was actually I felt bad for you a couple times in my life.
One time me and if we're doing a corporate in Vegas and once in the new aria- and we took edibles and around and I was like oh rogans, too famous in Vegas. He can't do this. He can't get this funked up and walk around calculate, but but watching the fights on edibles, I'm like it's too bad. You don't get too experience that yeah. You can't do that. You can't have to do commentary. One hundred percent sober tried early in the days early. In the day, I did like one or two events where I was a little fuct up, and I was like this is just too cloudy. I want to think about because I would want to talk about other shed right, the It will be going on. I want to talk about this, but that dude about a stingray tattoo on his back. He just fell on his last fight scene on there. I think that guy, who that sucking, big black dude beat and the last thirteen seconds Volkov yeah. I think he has a stingray. I thought I was like oh yeah. This kind of thing I could see you got like what a great distinguished some of the most underrated creatures that are, first of all, their peaceful should have been involved in millions and millions of years
interesting to have ties, doing your back and wonder if, like an ocean guy, really I wish you could should I switch swam with those Indiana forget where L call Flores. Really. I know where the Komodo dragons are you talking dive in and restore? He went to the Isle of Flores. That's that's! Where that little fucking man lived. You know they had that human being that they found. What do they call it come home. Oh Florian, Sis, Sis. I think that he has a little tiny hobbit like person that did I want to say, as recently as ten to fifteen thousand years ago, there was like a three foot tall kind of human yeah. There's there's been many different branches of human being. Right there's been neandertal or something yeah. There's uh from Russia Dionysus or something like that, if you
like look at that, oh yeah! No, I met that guy here in the hospital. I said: oh yeah, that guy was the shift. He gave good good drugs, but this little little person that live alongside human beings, My timeline is right. They have speech, they don't know, no, but they know they use tools. I don't know yeah. That was make sure painting with tools to show you with ninety five thousand and seventy thousand no, that's it. Seventeen thousand years ago, while the place is empty bunk. What was that one Hobbit human species debarked, I don't think that's correct, says new historian, but I'm
pretty sure. That's probably an old article Williams. What year? What was on article when is that, ten years ago, ten years ago, Ma'Am was it ten years ago, doesn't for that's what all right now that they're talking about the time zone? So it's two thousand fourteen the article that's fairly recently, I don't think that's the consensus. I don't think the consensus is that it's been deep on the tongue. Part is about the cranial volume. Our inside but not that it was a separate species, cranial volume is calculated to be formed. Thirty million milliliters, which puts it within the range of modern in living in the same region. They went further, comparing the size of the circumference of the occipital said the word Sybil frontal section of the skull to patients with developmental disorders in that region, the planet they found that measure things were indeed similar. If L B1 did have done
syndrome, then it would explain this short femurs as well. Hence, when calculated statistically for normal growth, they would yield a height of just over four feet which matches up with some humans living on Flores wow. This is, I think this is probably one of those heavily debated things, but we're trying to recreate it. There's a thing called island dwarfism. That happens too. It's really odd because it happens to mammals, but the opposite takes place with lizards and reptiles are massive. Reptiles, get massively Komodo dragons on the island of Komodo, their scariest giant. They giant Chuj their their monitor, lizards, really, essentially their enormous, whereas, whereas elephants that live on islands get tiny, have these, how wharf elephants, yeah yeah that that's. Why? Because I was less work for this room to have the covers of no less resources, and so they adapt to the humans to look look. How tiny that elephant is that lives? On those I mean it's in
if it's like shorter than you wow an elephant through yeah. That's like that's like a elephant. That's like my kids height, like this is. It happens with all sorts of different animals. He dwarf Buffalo yeah, I morphism. They think it's because these animals adapt to the fact that there's a limited amount of living amount of territory right they're, not the cover long distances to get to yeah. It's fucking crazy. What happens with animals man when they figure out like what they need to do to survive like one of the things that I was reading about really recently was these fuch? I wish I'd had it off top of my head, but these mods that lived in a separate.
There are an area where things were darker and they change from a light. Colored moth to a black moth like really quickly really yeah, like really quickly like they did it over a couple generations and they're trying to figure out how the fuck this happened, see if you can find that couple generations so fast peppered, moth yeah, really fast like it blew them away. They did understand how it happened so quickly. I think there's like there's there's so little. That's truly understood about what adaptive changes can possibly happen within animals like, for instance, is documentary called relentless enemies, and it's all about you, gonna piss, in something I am there, but it is up to so we're gonna use, though computable okay, we're still bottle. No sir, I thought that was full. It's the whitest mouth! Okay, you know you should do. You should get one of those ice bags the the people use for
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This is with good. That's. The thing is, I bet you could still popping out. It's like the pistons on Joe Rogan spices. Already she fears pys for real and it was forty seven of his using witchcraft? Is Israel Jupis, alright, give it a shake, and let's get back to ok? Alright jamies turned his head away, is freighted text Jamie, don't be afraid the glory undies. No, I believe this might be actually yeah yeah. They are. How far can comfortable with those are the best? The only one of the two, maybe them and do a part of the only like no longer sponsors that I'm like I'll still wrapped you guys set what's going on with you and sponsors did, did something happen, but when you said some crazy bus parts certainly give you hard time, yeah man, prude or was that was yeah. It's ok! I get it, I'm not for everybody, but then it's like we can't work together anymore I just I can operate under the idea that you can tell what they would what they say. Don't say something they said. It's offensive when I'm like. What did you say? It's I think I
it was something along the lines of like if you're human resources person and you have to hire, you can see your time can be spent better. Do you know doing something else you can fucking quickly hire somebody he zip code and then anytime masturbating your office, you could bring in like a zip bag and keep putting like you socks in there that you master, I don't know, I'm just going off top my head trying to be funny, as much as three men a read on a one minute by now, and then I get defensive like I that's fine all right, but I can't be think. About it. I refuse let myself think about so I'll. Just give up the money. Yeah yeah I've had some people get pissed at me, yeah and it's fair on their part. I get it. I don't agree, but I get it. That's your that's your right. Some of our postage is language yeah. Exactly but that's not Well, I'm going to do it so like we're done, but it's such a foolhardy way hi. Can I believe that too, I believe a good spot sponsor read that want to do with the Gore offer. Stop the beds where I was like him getting paid in the
asked by Christine Christina and his fucking bleeding over this, but his knees are also soften the sofa mattress. It's like dude man, they got super mad, then go back in at it and take it down which is like now. You give me more more work to not pay him. He said. Take it down yeah I had to re edit wow. Why do they have the right to say? Take it down, because I like more company like remind listeners are family. Why as in the are you severe, is getting your family company exactly and I'm like you guys, I can give you gold once in awhile. If you, let me be fully free yeah, I can do some of the past around? Well, I member Berg up the Nature Box pissed at him because he is healthy. Hate hate have a out:
yeah? What do you want to eat healthy? But that goes against like I watch it on the actual product, it couldn't help it yeah. They gave him the copy and it's like the healthiest snacks. However, he doesn't pre read it. He just like reads: it strikes bullet with him he's like no. I know I know we're done well. There are some like irrefutable sponsors, like for ME square space, irrefutable awesome product, but there's always let me go do whatever I want, whatever the fuck it man dies. If I start saying I wear my undies are supercuts. Also when you have that last bit of come on your dick, it will soak him up perfectly they'd, be like whatever they don't care. That's just right! Yeah they're, not saying how dare you I'd like to get the dark ones that cover up the fucking blood your house really well you're, not shooting on the product. You're, it's uncomfortable, so go ahead, yeah! It's so super corporate guys, the ones that zip
recruiter that kind of shimmy yeah yeah? I guess- and it's like it's fine, it's just yeah. I make money by continuously focusing on free speech, I'll, lose money in some spots and makes money in other spots, and this is all just part of it yeah. You can't really think about it, like only looking to make money every time make more 'cause that universal growth paradigm, you know that's only corporation and then I'm going to be doing straight. Add breeds in my listeners get bored asfuck, I'm going to lose listeners so then I'll be able to make less money off ads in the long run, because of that more ads, less money, as opposed to like fewer ads more it's like well, not only that like how much time do we really have left here? If we, if both of us live another forty five years, would be fucking amazing, that's forty five seasons of sober October's you know that would be amazing or not. This is the last Overall, it's overdone I should've roped into this one. Are you done because of the
has to be done because of the sobriety aspect. We do in January. Why January October is the best seeking month in New York. We could definitely do in January, but New year's eve. Oh yeah, yeah or February start my birthday, but like even yeah, because technically you after midnight you'd still be, locked up November. I wouldn't mind November yeah, no booze November, no booze November, what he bought in Thanksgiving. You have a little turkey one nice honestly, though, Thanksgiving the memories you everything's giving people childhood they're, not alcohol, based! No, not really you might want some. That's what you really want is, if you said no stuffing, but I called on that's part of it, but no alcohol and thanksgiving. That's not a big deal. What about March March is okay, more sober march? That's ok, too! Bullship month What goes on in March March is a Bush at month March, madness, Saint Patrick's day, Saint Patrick Days, March yeah. It is
but yeah? But I'm not irish. I mean I'm barely irish in the Lansing border Irish and break also spring break. Well, we don't have that anymore would be a big deal, always a reason doctor who was a one of the old and my you, kids of calm down on the classes so like you can actually the city's back two years again, it's amazing mmhm- and it's like this is hot. I spy password bars like one go. I wanna go J like let's go to fucking neighborhood bar, it's fucking awful couple days away: buddy we're only ten days left. Now, it's just what's really important. So we beat Bert for sure. I don't care. If you win, I don't care if Tomlin as long as Bert loses long as Bert Lasers can I can I tell you: can we talk about drugs that UFC for little bit sure so with Diaz always bring the breast strips there? Be this time where it wouldn't kick in it. Wouldn't kick in! You look over like feeling it like, I may be sort of, or one jolly ranchers that they have. I remember, having a
I remember eating a jolly rancher like before the fight started, because again it's early with you and just a construct Windows and some other guy. Nobody knew me back then, and it was like two. I think smoking, will it now one one home so now that we've been a jolly rancher, yeah and nobody could comprehend back then that it could be a from your jolly ranchers like in smokable, two thousand and three yeah, and then you look over the feeling that sort of and then you look over again and is just like in a trance. When you realize you are too and you both look at the other girl, and you know you brought the devil you and it was just great and that's I mean This is not happening stories where it's like you, don't even know who's winning fights. You just know you're enjoying watching acid in one of the UFC Events, yeah back when we're sitting with Kilstein an we didn't tell him
red band new and just do an acid. I remember how into it you were that part of me is you never quite know how people can react to things, so you really know them and like it could have gone like to is my place of work. You can't you know just a small part of you thinks. Maybe, but then you testing us, while you're into fights. Where are you guys where you guys sitting it wasn't? One of those we got bottom floor were in the bucket stands for that one, and we kept looking at us until you found us. I like to do it as it is just so great. Oh man, I've never seen so clearly remember. Forrest Griffin, coming in with shipping up to Boston playing and everyone cheering- and I was like this is the Colosseum were watching, was like in the Colosseum people fighting lions yeah. This is that everyone is cheering for blood How are we different in the Romans pretty fuckin', similar in a lot of ways? Yeah just a modern, more acceptable version of it, Oh that asset that you have seen was so fucking good. It was great. You didn't want any food Red Bank sort of took care of you a little bit.
He was at some of the and the Lord's cookies yeah we've done hi I mean I went to a bunch of events outside of the. U of C. Will really up and Adam went to that one in at the Playboy Mansion yeah strike force, yeah yeah, the folks on the blasted, in that one yeah that was like on. I missed out on a lot of that, like you guys sitting there in the audience, had a lot more fun than six hours of talking greatness? so you take him early and by the very end, it's like you're just coming down. It's like, let's go eat these steaks yeah Rogan buying again, let's go there was in Calgary where it fell on shrimp fest and as with duncan- and I was like hey guys, mushrooms
and he goes. I don't I don't. I don't want to come. I want take mushrooms right now. Ok, I'll just tell them out altogether motions I had for you I'll, throw them out I'll step on them on the ground and throw them out. So you want to make it alright, relax I'll, take the money and man in so fun there, because, like would take him. You get bored with some wrestling fight. You know where it's like they're trying to out point each other and let's go wander and you just go wander. You could get a hotdog. We put him into a maynards which is like Jolly rancher like Gummy. Whatever meat stick 'em in there, so you could reach farther Maynard or you reach in there, and you feel something crunchy like a stick and you're like ok, I'm going for that. We just keep eating these mushrooms some, them, dudes were like hey, you want to I'm talking to our sky box, and so we went into some skybox for awhile, and so we got kicked. By security, and that was from, like those guys were great fucking giant pupils. I saw. Can security guard in Calgary, as we were, going in and already trip trying to
all these mushrooms in there? This guy goes hey man, happy shroom, fast sounds like ok, you're being cool about it. Like you know about it, you let me go like. Thank you very much. Security guard knew about shrimp is like a cop one of so they hire their Calgary was fun. Calgary's, great great city, yeah doing doing at two hundred in the edibles. Remember Alex Jones being there once India's given her cookie, right, but this cookie yeah an Alex Jones like what's in the cooking India's Fucking cookie like stupid question is that you were saying that we went to eat with them. Afterwards he was barbecue barbecue much more reasonable back, then I never. I never understood how they made him from crazy conspiracy, theorists to alt rightists. I didn't get
connection there. Well that connection happen when he became united with like Alex Jones, became united with Donald Trump right, because he was a big part of Donald Trump in in the campaign days and well read Donald Trump calling who calling the info wars, and I knew that I was Jones at a big base and our sons and help them get elected. Don't you know, don't trouble is very clever in who we aligned himself with like when you see him standing there listening to Westwood, Kanye West is ranting and saying all this crazy, fucking, skitzo nonsense and he's like this? That's smart cookie. He's very smart in when he calls bullshit when he doesn't call bullshit users and Boces yeah. It's like imagine. If Kanye West was debating him and they were doing a presidential to Ok and Connie was talking like. That would be like what the fuck is. This guy exactly what you're saying you're giving up for me. So I let you talk. Yeah he's
You know I just don't get any other stuff with super size. So that's what it was because he would have him on a bunch. Well, you know also out alright wasn't a thing back then? You realize when, when Alex came with us to the to the fights, the ones, no all right, but he was more like. Lizard people or like or like. Oh it's a fucking government conspiracy yeah. He was all about we're going to start on nine slash eleven. It's like he was all about certain conspiracies I remember we were in Austin once when there was a shooting at a a army base. We were there right with him, yeah when the thing out- and we were at a bar- remember goes- I guarantee you that Like I live, I guarantee they won't. Let him talk and then an hour later, like I'm allowed to shut up and they got him because yeah, of course that got him a lot because they want him to be hooking martyr. For this thing it's like, or whatever it's going to be, a martyr right, yeah and it's like
no matter what he just I'm spring is the conspiracy, and then I just that business is a tricky business. I have a said like now. You got to be off the air. Now it's like! Well, that's where it's up. It is a lizard person guy. Well, it's not, though, because like people were concerned and that you're giving out bad information right and there are certain about it, but then with Alex what came out was the sandy hook thing the sandy hook. Denial thing was when again conspiracy, I don't get why that weapon is a conspiracy involving children being murdered and their parents being actors that everyone was like some sort of a crisis at after they were hired by the government to take away people's guns. This is this is okay, okay, okay, most radical version of sure. I understand I understand, that's that's wrong! Increasing! Where do you get from there to you can't be allowed to say these quite you've been saying is made up things before or right, you're saying it's still well
why it's a hatemonger, you got a really good argument, but here's the argument. The argument is: what is Facebook? What is twitter, what is Youtube, Are they private companies which they did Mercer most, certainly or even more so? Are they utilities? Is it like the electricity? Is it like a phone like? What should you be allowed to tell someone they can't use it like? I wonder if Jack said: hey, I'm shutting down twitter. If the government is like we're open, back up again right or is it like in BC, because of n b c is a private company and are you should fear, says hey the lizard? People are eating kids and that's that stuff to run sixty minutes now, and they say no now are you're fired click Brazilian made one bad Ambien Joe. So can they cancelled her? They kicked her off of For any other reason. They were they weren't. That's not true,
They say that there was a huge hit because of the outrage over the first season which she was like. She supports Trump yeah, but I talk to Morgan about it was a giant hit, but they were looking to get rid of her. This whole group was already, we want you out we're looking for excuses kind of like when they got at the comedy store over filming when it was come on. They already wanted to get rid of you well, and I found an excuse to get it done. That's a tricky argument because under her I think so badly wanted her out. I think they wanted to minimize her the less. She was eight, that's true, but she was ten. Telling me how they were changing the way they were writing things and they weren't, including her in the process where she was very much including the process during the first season when they were writing for the second season, they were basically looting her from the process of premises and the way they were writing the show I mean I read Read all the outrage about early on it's. Like your trump supporter and I read, I saw
Some like raisoni, some young female comedian, going like it when when Herman was like hey watch. My friend show Roseanne she's great great challenge. You know this is the beach. I got take with at a party and kiss on the cheek- pretend I'm cool with her and it's like what is all this outrage over this approach. Something I? Finally, let me go watch it and my friend jewish female leftist, Morgan Murphy who wrote it I later about. If I finally watched it and it's just twelve characters in the show. Ten of them don't talk about who they voted for it. All one of them is pro Trump one of those ants. Trump is also a little trans kid on there and that's it just one pro Trump one Anti Trump and the outrage that I saw was almost like. I don't think you guys could have possibly watch this episode. I think you're all reading headlines about stories and that's why I talk to Morgan about I'm like it doesn't seem like it could have come from the actual facts. You know there's a lot of that going on right, yeah, and so I feel like it's the same thing
Alex Jones, Ommegang, Hatemonger, hate monger. What Alex Jones, just crazy mercy guy most of it yeah most of the hate monger well, yeah um. They talk about taking away Trans rights or anything like that. It was some talk. There was some talk. Alex Jones was saying. And one of the one of the last final straws it was talking about people taking up arms and that, we are not going to stand it, and you know it's basically rabble rousing, which is like a lot of what people do when they're talking about the other side. Trying to take away your rights trying to take away your guns were not going to stand for it. You know you know, and people are going to get shot. You know that kind of talk. You know specifically what he said, but there's a problem that you don't now. Specifically right, there's a problem. They can just decide that you represent a certain faction of thought in that this should be eliminated from you should be D platformed instead like
art form for conspiracy, guy and those people are going up to those those parents and saying, like your kids, not dead, and it's like a real issue yet, but he said he's not calling for that. That's what they're doing on their own somebody shot cops in New York, because the black lives matter movement? You don't shut down the black lives matter movement over that they weren't asking for them to shoot cops. Someone did on. Who's. Also also, he was an album to do that. No, he wasn't so like so like. I don't see how you depart for the only great Love was by Trans woman, who said when I hear crazy shit like that, I feel like it's supposed to roll your eyes and then walk away. You don't say: hey you need to get gone. Well, you know the platforming people, that's a good way to put it that is what they're saying, and it is also it seems like it was a universal d platforming, because Twitter was on one of the last place that kept him on, and then they decided that they were going to remove him. But I didn't see anything Pacific yeah, they have some rules like that when they got who's woman, that
rose Mcgowan and then she was claims talking about a rape people like dear, dare you shoot she you out of the rape and then and then you the wonder from now. You just took it out from that. That was a story that was a headliner once I. How dare you Jack is that the guy from Twitter Jack, Dorsey yeah? How dare you I, then he actually responding goes. I don't know she ducked somebody. She gave some is information about where they live and stuff like that, and that's we already had that rule. You can't do that nothing to do with why she docs them well. Let's just over that, why don't you, Google? What exactly got Alex Jones kicked off twitter 'cause? He twitter was one of the last platforms and then they can say hate Speech and hate speech is one of those we'll broad broad terms, looks like I hate you, yeah, ok,.
I mean I I I really am like I, I don't. I think people forgetting how the ACLU defended the clan members, because the free speech is too big of a pocket issue to worry how I feel about what they're saying we know what's really interesting? Is that left, leaning, people, the leftists, are the ones that want to censor in deep platform and silence people in the right, it is it's also both, I think we see. The last part is word that bubble. I think the writers doing it. So we just don't want friends with a white doing it. They have no power in technology, the tech companies, whether it's Facebook. Google, Twitter, there all left and they are the to have the mean. This is where it's weird right, because nobody saw this coming, it was media, like you had Fox news lose you at NBC. You had you had your left and you had to write more left and right of shore, but there was power in the Fox NEWS in faction. They had their voice, but in the in my,
it comes to technology. There's not really an equivalent or commensurate companies. All left. It's all left, there's not one right, leaning, large social media platform right, they don't exist, it should just stay. But I I get why they do that. You get a reddit situations like on it, but suddenly it it it. It devolved into just child porn. Well credit, the probably read it is in and a new when you give people anonymity and- and I actually lost his job because of it, because somebody decided hey this guy is such a fucking creep piece of shit, let's find out when the key is they got his ip? and they figured out who he was and then he was like some guy who's, a dad. It was like some regular with a job and they got him fired like you know, he had a bunch of weird. You know kid fucking, typo, Sts and the ship that just people sounded just like it's almost like role playing or like you're, not serious, exactly
when it's all said on here. That's fine as people running out of the room. Yesterday or two days ago, we got a full room, randomly dinner tonight, first, three minutes like it's terrible no. I never got a vote. People like he couldn't handle it, and then he starts going leaving he starts getting angry and born into his pocket. You know where he belongs and then ask Will leave in like he's talking about child talking and stuff like that and uh an big behind the curtain. I didn't forget baby just so you know there were no babies, focht, so calm down what people don't want to hear, but that subject and that's fair yeah. It's something common store, deer, some wonder jokes about people losing socks in the dryer right, so actually, honestly, walking out as a fine response, yeah saying he can't go up anymore, is not a fine response, different response, yeah and saying you're going to boycott the comedy store because they don't do your.
Comedy and if you want to boycott- and that's also ok but he's trying to get other people to an alright but there's this is a problem. In that there's, no balance right. If people are just right, leaning and people want to d platform them because they have right, leaning, leaves right, leaning ideas like say: if they support President Trump is the President is the president and it's like you're allowed to vote, for whom you want, whether you like it or not. That guy is the president and when do you like his policies or not, they are his policies. He's the President United States, an if someone supports that d platforming people who support him a support. That is not the right response. The right response is a well worded argument Augusta. That is against that. That is convincingly articulate to the point where you make an argument that this is a terrible policy, a terrible idea and an objective
fence rider like myself. That watch is that it reads it might go. Okay, it's guy's to get I want to hear both sides, but I need to hear that side in order to hear the alternative side. There tape Smith, who hates all politicians pretty much. He was pointing out these separating their kids from their parents thing, and it's like it's gotten real bad with Trump now, and he goes ok, that's true, but look at the picture. Turn on the bottom right hand, corner, there's a date stamp on it and it's two thousand and fourteen. Definitely a lot of shenanigans alike or grab your anger is not even who gets what I can even bring that up. That's just journalism's what that is, and an on, find. Journalism did during their look journal also, my fighting for their lives right back there in the days of journals, is terrible. It's terrible and it's also there's no money in it. This is a problem. Is nobody wants to buy newspapers and we want to buy magazines, and it's really hard for online journalism did not resort to click. The anger set yeah I mean that's, literally how they make their living now is clickbait ship and so
have a photo. This is what the stock photo. We got a little fucking kid who's crying and he's standing in front of the border patrol guy, throw it up but use it is what we got the stories real, the photos, not it should journalists. I think it really comes down to like when you see like a normal Donald project. Okay, I haven't done anything to anybody wrong. I just want to look as with compassion. Another human MIKE is a p, is a friends of mine, the people. I know what you mean when you be specifically what saying, but nor Mcdonald what he said like Roseanne and and Louis and like they've, lost everything in a day and people don't really understand what it's like right, and I would like to see these friends who human beings. Friends of mine come out with the way he goes on it. I don't think Roseanne do that. Lady was black. I don't think she makes that comment and then people go fuck. You you can't much appearances cancelled yeah, it's like why even do anything mean right, doesn't do anything. Take that opportunity to go hey Let's hear him out. Maybe you can clarify what you mean right
say no. I didn't mean it that way. The platform to the platform, because these women that people, I don't really know who they were at the tonight show had their opportunity to fall on their sword. And they go now. We get to stand up for women's rights and we get to stand up for racial rights Instead of doing like, let's hang on exactly how come on and say Jimmy Fallon go. What would you mean by that? Exactly and then the clarifies position to now show? Oh, I'm on your side, but people don't want that they're, more they're, more interested in punishment, yes, and so now you're people who are on your side. So you can feel right at the comedy cellar. A waitress was traveling to fucking work. Where are T shirt after Lewis came back and somebody said: hey headphones, take your headphones out. She did and shame on you to some waitress who otherwise I'm charging coming back? She might have. The guy or girl said. Shame on you don't know, I think a woman not sure, but this waitress might have been like heavily against him coming back but there's no research done is just like. I get my chance to show that I've stuck up for somebody instead of rule
some other woman's day who might be on your side yeah. Well, this is This is finger and Val's face after he came back with those fuck you I'm so they're, really How was I was one of the managers of the cut of the seller and it's like to his the fellow woman who hasn't done thing wrong right and your your yours cursing her out, so you can feel like I've done something for the cause yeah well. This is something that the left does, that the right doesn't do the left attacks its own. They attacked it's only here for a once a year and a feminist, and she was like you're on your outlook in mind about what five six years ago. I don't member inch, because you got your mind on your leader, I'm
on your side, you're attacking me for being anti feminist you're. Out of your fucking mind, they eat their own, they can't they have blood less. They know how to control it. You're not trained in fuqing fighting well they're, always looking for targets, they're, always looking for targets in in finding and establishing a target. You clearly established that you're better and more virtuous than that person, because you find offense in something that they do there not progressive enough and they are part of the problem, and so you cast them out or you shut them down or you d platform yes. So I think with Alex Jones, they go eight. They pointed out when a lot to like do it. He said how can sandy hook didn't happen and it's like? Okay out of my I'm not saying, I'm not you, but I don't know. I guess strawman me into saying I'm saying that Ok, that's right right, not saying this right. I just don't see the connection to this. I don't see the connection to Michael Vick killing dogs, are not the side of two. You shouldn't play football right. You haven't made that can action to mean, like oh you're, saying it's, ok, to kill dogs, no serious. Why is that job not allowed to do. The connection would be if you have a private company.
This is where it all boils down to like. Do you have a right to use their platform so you're not taking Alex Jones off the internet Alex Jones still has a website on the internet, but if you have, if Arisha fear, dot com, all of a sudden becomes twitter right, there's there's a separate thing, though private company are they allowed and it's private company. Should you be doing right? Should you be doing, and it's like I with the laws, I agree with only a portion of the laws, the I think that this is in response to like the type of should that has happened. It read it that read, it has gotten so fucking out there in many different ways, and so like the especially the Trump section of Reddit like people, let them be there. They're not doing anything anyway, they're, not planning attacks, but people who, if you save you own that company
then you were one of the people that was responsible for trying to sell ads for twitter or for what it with the. I don't think Twitter has ads. But if you had like established guidelines which couldn't couldn't say, one of those things would probably be e, no hate speech, no racism. No, this know that, but you can't promote false conspiracy theories that hurt other people right. Do you you could get away with saying that right. So it's not about so it's kind of like that, the the the Rose Mcgowan thing with Techno. No, it's not about you! Just can't talk to anybody. What is this Jamie? This is from a and p r interview. Washington, Post reporter about all. Let's read this: this is and when I spoke to someone at Twitter, they said one thing The way it very heavily on them was the way that Jones conducted himself outside of a congressional hearing where Twitter, CEO, Jack Dorsey, was testifying about the way
company moderates content Online Jones, specific essentially went after republican Senator Mark Marco Rubio interrupted one of his press conferences. He yelled at one point as he was trying to leave the building and then he lives. In the incident where he was attacking a CNN reporter hurling verbal results at him, the video was broadcast on periscope is the live streaming site owned by twitter, and so in the minds the company. It essentially was too much. He had gone too far, and so they kicked him off the site. Yeah I mean I guess if you're talking but you're right, it's like sure. I guess it's their right, but I disagree with them doing it. I would like a world where you like, we don't in less it's physical harm to someone possibly monetary. I like direct monetary harm, like I'm stealing from you, infringes on your rights, then do what you say what you want, where it doesn't infringe on your rights keep going well, the problem becomes who's to decide. What is hate speech exactly who so it's like. We don't decide that yeah and who
to decide is, is saying in a Tom the Gore special Hate speech right, it's it's that that's such a slippery slope from the only way to do it is if you infringe on someone's right you've gone too far. If you haven't, you have not yelling fire in a crowded, theater yeah, it's free speech. Until you like someone is going to get, is getting hurt from this or it's very possible they will. You can see why they would not just like it might hurt their feeling so make it harder for them to be a kid this world. If you say it's like no yeah, no, I agree, but I also, that, if you are NBC or ABC or CBS an someone says things that you feel violate your company's policies right. So someone promote some outlandish conspiracy, theory about children, get shot in. Parkland really never died and their parents are all crisis actors
paid by the CIA psyop- and you know this person- is on CBS. You can fire them right out there now that now is the question, but it when the fan finisher so is twitter, like CBS, because they're, both private companies and are the people who are on broadcasting periscope and on Youtube. Are they essentially, someone who is, I mean you kind of. Are you working with or for Youtube? If you're broadcasting Youtube, I mean how do you look at it like it? I don't think so. I think it's a private thing and I think I think, if you're making a video on how to make a bomb, I think the authority should get in there right. So you can't do that. What, if you're, making a video about how there's some people out there that are lying about their children being shot same thing that the authorities in, if you think it's leading the harm? But it's not the company
I don't think you should be allowed. If you're, you too, you don't think you should be allowed to tell someone hey. You say a bunch of that's not true and it hurts people quite what's what's your what's? The word hurt me well, okay, if your children were murdered and there's some guy by screaming on Youtube that you're, a crisis actor and nothing ever happened. Your kids, your kids, it's a lie and there's rubber kids in the ground with fake blood, and they can prove it notice how hologram you shouldn't be able to remove them from your plan form to remember. What's his name from and by the way I'm not arguing yeah. I know I know the other portent for people online understand this. Isn't there the Kansas pastor with his name? He died Kansas past, which we talk on the radio once the fish for practice church some Baptist church, he would go to rules of of fell. Yeah, yeah yeah and he would go there and say the reason your son died is because gays around in Hebrew in peace,
it's federal that kind of child who died, my life bags dot com yeah, I do not, and these weren't gay soldiers and just soldiers right, it's horrible and then other people. How to do things like create a blockade around their cars and say, give us take it will actually move, but the funeral will be over yeah man, that's sucky behavior! If you can't stop him doing it okay, you. So what is in the arms of public discourse? Yet so go to CBS and say that and said like well, we can take you down because you've said things that totally untrue right. What about the guy who gets caught smoking weed in Iowa, illegal legal state in Alabama? Could you fired that yeah? But a different tank. What goes against what we think is: okay, yeah, that's a slippery slope. I mean, if you're saying, are you allowed legally? Yes, of course, but more early. No, I think, you're a fuckin' platform for speech. So let all the speech in and four Chan got written up as this fucking hateful place were really they're. Just troll
and then one of the best ways to troll is using Donald Trump. There was a really interesting case with four Chan that I found preposterous where they trolled Shyla booth. Oh yeah could shyly took down that podcast? Yes, we tested, it was great. It was great. It was great. It was hilarious. How dare you promote fortune on their hate group? And you like that? You have to listen yeah. You can leave just said that they're, not a hate group yeah, and you like you. I don't like that interpretation. You, Norman Donald I'd like you to She did know that lady was black. Ok, you went real with that. But still you are you sure you can't say rose in. Wasn't racist he's. Like he's not saying racism is okay, he goes we're Norma saying I don't think she was new? That lady was black. I agree with your and is not saying pro Trump fuck. All of you pro Trump fortunate saying this will talk with you. Let's luck with you! Well they're, saying Fox Shyla booth, 'cause he's a goof, and they decided to use science and literally they studied the
cars in the sky was amazing. Amazing troll had someone drive around and beep their horn, so they could triangulate. The area with this is take. The welfare plans are going overhead, took the fight yet took the flag down when folks are laying in a day they found it somewhere in the world, and the podcast was great and there was no hate involve it had nothing to do with political ideology. Had nothing do with racism enough to do with hate and people say. Oh you're supporting fortunate Opus fortune sports Hitler now listen. Four Chan is just a bunch of people and it's like it. They just in the podcast. A fortune does not support the other. They go trouble people, let's a some fucking weird frog. For no reason it makes no sense and that's now explain to me where that frog thing came from, and like how you just pulled a random thing out. Well, most of that frog thing was: was fun yeah and there was a new instances of that frog, which were racist or KKK versions or nazi version, and then people decided that whole frog
search races, Biswas abuse all over Indonesia as a good luck, sign different different case. The vast majority of the use. Of that frog was not races. The vast majority was feels bad man yeah. It was silly trolling, it was just being silly yeah yeah and then there was like you can't. Let it show cannot let people call up the frog confirm you know NPR. I think it was NPR, I guess it might have been, I'm not sure what the company was there like. It will take it you, still have it still on that use radio, elaborate, allowed. Okay, yeah and they're like sorry about that, will take it out. I think you're going you too bye. I just heard it. I thought that was taken downloaded it and then, when I went to send people to it, I found out on the show on the podcast that had been taken down, and I was I think the Itunes version is down, but you can still get other places, but for them to apologize this is meat, saying, ok, you're, weak you're allowed to take that down right. But for someone else, come in and say you can't make podcasts anymore. Right is like really dangerous point and that could have happened from
if someone had said no we're not going to take it down so in radio app is not hate, monger right, exactly their support. They support four Chan. Four Chan support Hitler. Radiolab support Yeah. I mean this is this is a circular logic, so the the answer is you have a strong line unless it's causing direct physical damage to someone. You know that everything is allowed. Well, what they were dear, that's a horrible day should have been it's a great place to the ocean of never taking that down help. They should like the rocky to listen to it and there's a so hard. They trolled them how they got together in a trolling, we use science use logic, these things. These are smart, fucking people that figure out where that flag was Shyla. Buff that's hilarious. Was such a good podcast, but be wild by the way me talking about it on people like. I can't believe you don't get it. You know you're fucking,
you always have all these white supremacists on. Are you? Alright? Are you this? I mean every day people will tweet at me with stupid shit like that, and that one podcast me saying how great that podcast was, in particular people saying what the fuck is wrong. Joe Rogan and I used to think he was a good guy. Now I think he's a white supremacist he's a fucking racist he's, a KKK person. I guess this post, one of my favorite books? Maybe my favorite like use that word favorite, but like the fountain head, it's Ein Rand and People go like or socialists. You know you know she took fuckin' social security in old age. She never did and I'm like. Ok, ok and now it's showing it and I ran all the time myself and then I realize I should never read a book. Read the fountainhead. It changed my life like not even a little bit the direction of my career. I stand corrected it, an artist as an you got to read it bro. But it's it's it's all about how I read a chapter of it like fifteen me a year and a half to read it. Every chapter I'd sit down, I think about it. For two weeks when I read the,
Jordan Peterson talks about her as a philosopher. He doesn't like her as a although less she's like she's great what what what what about, if it shows you a true artist and shows you are a jobber and the chopper yeah, like pro wrestling style, sort of a summer just like doing it for the money, as opposed to a pure, like Abby, Abby, Marten, Happy Harris, Witcher name, which one the journalist Abby Martin. Martin she's, like oh, I don't want to just take money for reporting. I want to too real report. Now, yes, so she's, kind of true artists, at least in that moment, and none of us, can be fully true artists and None of us are really just full job, or so we have a little bit of artistic taste. Even the jobbers have the fucking little bit of like well just some interesting. You know the full artist, it's just it's almost impossible. One hundred ideal, but if you can only aim for that, if a sponsor says we need I can turn it down to realize. Like oh fuck, I just gave up another foreground
yeah. Sorry, I can't hear you anymore 'cause. I hate this. That's what fuck you money is all about sort of yeah, but this guy didn't have lucky money in the disguise like I'll, go back up, MIKE's I'll go back to open mikes. You can't take away my ability to freely do this, no matter what so read me in terms of like being able to think that way. It was really really informative to me. But if I just heard these people going fuck her she's a socialist and then you read it: oh I'm not getting what you're saying out of this! I'm missing this amazing stuff, so that people will just self AQ four Chan's, hey Congress, like you, didn't really even you know, even listen to what they're actually doing well as soon as you limit new wants, and you you, you have reductionist ideology right. You just want to reduce something that he's racist, oh he's hateful always this is that that that is that's where ideas go to die because you you eliminate what is what it is to be human? What needs to be a human is to be constantly conflicted to deal with a bunch of different contrary
ideas, bouncing around your head left and right all the time you know, and if you you want to eliminate the ability to talk to people that you don't agree with boy you're living in fuckin' bizarre bubble because you're not going to agree with yourself five years from now, most likely yeah, I mean if I hadn't, today years ago. I'd be like dumb yeah, you need to stop thinking this way. You need to stop doing this. You need to look at yourself more objectively are you with how your life? Why I think that just this, if I mean the fact it was so divisive, but like. We listen to the side all I'll give. The easiest argument to me is abortion, where it's like. Both sides are pro life. The idea of life and and both sides are also pro choice, not against choice, but you know: hearing the other side, so one side is saying: it's a woman's right to choose her body, her choice, it's like ok, but yes, it's her body, but in a tattoo
you know there's more to it than just her body and then the other side. It's like human life like ok, yes to life, but also this chick has to carry it for nine months. It's going to change your whole body or to is it's not just simply, it's a life design, the going in a baby, it's in a human. So can you guys actually talk? Can you guys really talk at own up to like it's no more than just one side, ground yeah! so the mall took the people with the pro choice or saying no, it's a woman's right to choose and the people that are pro life, so you know you're killing a baby and if you give up any ground. The baby is going to die so I'll tell him to take away a woman's right to have an abortion and then she's going to have to carry a bunch of kids from people that raped her. And This is the worst case scenario and extremes on both ends as a Booker as a former Booker, it's someone who do books show that, like you need more women. It's like! Oh I'm, look at hard, but you have to understand that I'm not going to hurt my product over. I do want to so I want diversity of opinion on there. I want to receive experience. I want
Australians. I want some monk in black people. All the Saadiq is a far different life experience than I do you know forget about my race. Just his life experience is way different. You know always you can Byron Bowers, both black guys gives a far different world yeah. You know. So I do want that diversity of experience, but I'm not going my problem. I can get some shity guy who just was imprisoned, doesn't tell a story right so I'll work hard but meet me halfway. I will do it but find me qua people, so I'll go find Pat but I'll go. I have to go far for so, if somebody cancels on my show- and I have five white guys- don't be like fuck- you- look into a little more like I just had two chicks cancelled, so meet me halfway now, whenever you're looking for diversity, as opposed to looking for the best possible product, you've got an issue, and part of that figure out is some diversity opinion that is but but it should be good, There's, no reason why the two are mutually exclusive. Like the idea
there's only a certain limited amount of good ideas that come mostly from white peoples, ridiculous right, so there's plenty of is that will come from Asians and plenty of ideas that come from all sorts of different ethnicities that are also excellent, so it's just finding them, but when you guarantee that you're going to have five of this in five of that. That's when you gonna have a real fuckin' yeah. So I had my friends my friend Colette said the weather. Doing in the in the in the business world is they're taking what their industry is. The number of, let's say men and women, forget it black and white and latino whatever just men and women they taking the number of people in the industry and in order to correct uh, overuse of of males, say or the other way over use of females. In like autistic training, you know, but let's just say in the business world it's seven thousand and thirty make met up.
So what you do is they forced you instead of high speed where California is like? You must put a woman on your board, which means like okay, if we just have three board members one left and we have to Woman now wait. Bill Gates just became available. To work on our board. Can Hiram can't hire him that's My company, he got high, he's a great guy, he's a race yeah. So what they said is in order to correct it. They will interview at eight ten percent higher rate than the industry number so they'll be exposed slightly to more of the people there. Under represented and overtime. That would correct the issue without hurting any company and here well, let me hear Why? You think you're right for the job and eventually you will hear people like while she was actually really good, let's actually hot here or there, but if it's still bill it's probably the job, the job of him. His fuckin' he's got his resume. Well, that's where computer should comes in with this equality of outcome. I argument and the equality of outcome argument is a dangerous argument. If you guarantee a Qual,
the outcome, but I want to hear a guarantee that women are going to make exactly the same amount as men, and so even if the man works harder, the women is still going to make the same amount of money. Let's ridiculous the vice versa, come to us yeah sure, but with anybody or anything, the NFL said you have to interview, I mean were predominately black, you have to interview interview, not hire interview, one black candidates before you hire somebody. So at least these people get hurt, and sometimes you go like that. Guy was a pretty fucking good. Let's really consider him, and then they get hired a little more until it just shifts the needle like, but they only qualified people right would. Ideally, what you would want is no racism right. Racism, no sexism that's ideal and not to have to make some. Pause for it, but we're not in the world, that's not where we live, but it would be nice. That would be what we really want would really want. This is never an issue at all, you're, only getting people that are great at it and that way. If, if
It was not an issue at all. There is no racism whatsoever. What you would say is: oh look. It seems like asian people gravitate towards this. It seems like people of this color or this culture rather gravitate towards this activity. I wonder why that is instead, hey, why don't you hire more white people? You see, it seems like white people are really interested in that Johnny, the cleaner, the cleaners in New York as the berry asian job. Yes, while you're not like we need to hire white people. You need to hire black people, it's like hi, Steve Job, that's one of the care yeah! Nobody cares, but if it was a c e o of large financial institutions, you would say this is ridiculous that it's all this. No, not that ideally, would be a fascinating social experiment or a social observation to find out what genders sexual orientation. What race, what what ethnicities gravitate towards specific jobs if those jobs didn't have
hierarchy of desire right, if, if there wasn't, some jobs are far more desirable yeah I mean the the one of the arguments I had really early on in Hollywood was with this guy, who is a really nice guy, but he was asian and, he was saying: there's no fucking roles for asian actors. This is bullshit and I was like okay, should make rolls is like it's not that easy! I go. I get it. I understand it's not that easy, but do you think that someone should have right and asian leading man, because you have a hard time getting a job right like what should they do how should it does also no rules for ugly people right? It's true like what about you know what about people who are dwarfs? There's no there's very few. Jobs for the very few and the one guys kill, and what that one guys dominate the game of thrones. To that what you do like? What? What? What would you do? Tech correct. That is. The question is not whether or not the world is fair. The world is not fair. There's no five foot tall white
guys are playing in the NBA? That's not fair, either. There's weird shit. That just happens to be reality like what do you do to correct that? and you know he was really adamant that Hollywood is racist, they're, not not hiring Asians, to be leading men and Asians that I'm like okay, I see how it would be frustrating for you as an actor, but if you're a screen writer and you're a guy who writes a story, about a white guy moves into a haunted house, and you know he falls in love with this woman. They buy a house together in the house, winds up being harder and there's monsters. You're saying should, should someone have to change that to an asian guy so that you get a job, also simplistic, because it's like it is not not hearing the other, the other arguments. Okay, sure back back, I could be anybody who feel like. I could be any any race right, but if me I'm not Hollywood, I'm a guy making this one movie right and if I cast an Asian, I'm probably going to make far less money than if I cast a guy who looks
most of the movie ticket purchasers, also white guy or a face this person, which is not so big picture, absolutely so that it's like you want me to correct what Holly, but I'm not Hollywood, I'm just this producer, but this movie that become that's something that my friend Frankie Renzulli said to me once he said: there's no Hollywood right! There is no That's what I said about the AIDS cure. The doctors have the cure, but they make more, they make more money in after treatment got the treatment, but I'm like, but there's no such thing as doctors, the doctors group. One doctor had it, he would be a billionaire if he just released the cure. But this is the main problem with conspiracy. Theory is that everyone is working together. I think that everyone's work
together as a part of some grand thing to keep the knowledge that the world is flat away from the general public, like that kind of stupidity. But that comes from a lack of understanding of how human beings interact with each other and about how magnificent it discovery. So gigantic would be to the one person that exposed it. That person Keep your mouth shut. For what reason? What read? That's? Not nonsense. I will say with that in mind: there is a thing that, when you interview a white lady or black to for a job a lot of times, you're a pre dispositions towards those race or gender, it's going to go like I don't respect you as much as your mind is there. I wrote a kind of like dis respect you, although I don't think you have. The brain that someone who looks different has so now you're like not letting them get the part or get the job they would have gotten. The part
with so garbage yeah, the part doesn't work, but the job, because, like really you're smart, no way a woman's going to do the best job get the funk out. Whenever you see like an actor who goes on to write and direct his own thing like what most actors are fucking idiots, when you see what's actually intelligent like, I would not expect that from you and then have it also with race and gender, so that you do want to correct yes. Well, that's what Billy Bob Thornton did with sling blade. He could, get jobs made his own, so we decided to have this crazy character, I'm going to Swingers exactly Jon Favreau. They decided to make his own movie rocky yeah mean sort of We just make sure he played on the road and you wrote it yeah, but you did go to a major yeah studio. But did you see you can't mandate creativity? Creativity is a different element because, like it look how many books, a Stephen king, written about Maine yeah, like it's every other book, it's about Maine, you can't tell him he can't write a book about Maine, because people from Kenosha Wisconsin or upset
I think that your you know your location IST, but I do like what they do in the UK in there like the first year of black mirror, which is UK based they don't they just let black guys play roles, it's not they're, not playing black person they're, just like there's mixed race couples there. They're just people their way further along the way, our terms that and says our social consciousness of books like ice in general. They don't see race as much the your biggest english English. You know. Well. They said they see, they say Indians and Pakistanis so like that they see that race really hard. Still, we actually probably see that less, but in terms of black and white there were just way more like just people right. That's interesting, yeah, because they don't have a history of slavery like we didn't make. This is Laura stopped earlier. I'm not sure I mean way back at the more and in short spare, but, like I don't know it's just not as bad as us right. For whatever reason, I'm not really sure the causes, but then people black guys can just play a role. He was an argument about that, with with black mirror that I I've
sounds kind of silly similar saying. Oh, I'm upset about a black mirror, because it's like every show has woman lead in every Chicago step away and look at the shows their fucking fantastic. Yeah that that's right, so good yeah. Why do you? But that someone who is so upset by this whole idea, of diversity and enforce diversity that they're looking for it, even when it's not relevant, because the actual work itself is so good. So, like you shouldn't, say the new Ghostbusters suckers all women who just had a new ghostbusters suck, because no one was calling for a remake of it right and it sucked or STAR wars The new star wars like when you had Carrie Fisher and Laura Dern were like the major generals, and you like what This doesn't even work like. Maybe it doesn't work, because it wasn't written well and because they didn't really pull it off, but you're telling me you couldn't
some bad chick, like Sigourney Weaver, when she was in aliens who dominate the film. Nobody gave a that. She was the lead. I would look out because it was a good. He was so good. The blonde chick is from game of thrones, perfect yeah and sources. Yes, there are so I was like oh yeah, whatever it's like. No one thinks of them is women. They just like strong characters. Yeah Omar from the wire who was gay and black No one cares right because it was like you nailed it yeah, but then how do you do it? Yeah? You have to likes like not see it and black who's going to be great in this and also give a representation of you can't make all the gangsters white because be unrealistic right. Well, you know I mean we've seen this in comedy too right. We see there's a difference between in force, diversity and people who just happen to be diverse, but are brilliant sure and we've seen this, where what they're trying to inform course like certain aspects of the same mustaches you're going to make your product worse, yeah? Well, we I mean
how many times have we seen this and people will say hey. You know why aren't there more women at the comedy store? Why aren't there more this? Why is there more that whoops, oh yeah that lady, who said like when he comes only got three spots last month, explained that like wait, what you're doing is accusing, but if you're actually asking why do it comes and get three spots last month is because Whitney Cummings called in for three spots last month, yeah she gets every spot. She wanted she tell you that if you asked her face she's one of the ones whose car wash over you yeah, you don't get. Glenn and not get a spot there. Certain people get the spots. They want yeah, so she's. One of them yeah. So the answer is she busy? She has yeah exactly. The answer is causing sexism there. Well, that's nonsense, though, that that kind of thinking almost always comes from people who suck. If you look at their art, they are almost always bad that's just a fact they want the quality of those kind of leaves about this. Recently, it's not new it made me realize something. Then cook a pig people like all he's good looking- and there was a bunch of
you guys who weren't killing every set like doing was and know we're going there must be a reason other than it on me right. Why? I'm not as big as him yeah how about the good looking thing that's off! May I no control over that, and it's really like do that kills nineteen times out of twenty and you kill two out of twenty yeah like can you possibly say it could be based on that, but it's the people that are complaining almost never doing well anyway. So this is why they complaining are they I mean what what's what's going mean you're, not going to hear certain people, you can hear bill, there are complaining about other people doing well said it goes in. I mean black comics who do well, they're all successful hugely you guys, if you're doing well onstage consistently as a black comic. There's no question you'll be you'll, be doing a little be making doctor money. He didn't say that but like but that's what it is yeah well, the comedy in many ways is very, very egalitarian. In that way the lawsuit on yeah, you you mean to
you- are what you are either you're really funny. Are you not in this black rooms, black comma? So just some things like so I mean that doesn't relate Certain white audiences, like I just can't figure it out, but those rooms for them that the mexican rooms where they do have to punch lines in Spanish that wouldn't play your comedy store, but it would play in certain audiences when Diaz used to do Miami, he would do spanglish. Who would have his punch lines being spanish people would follow. Rocking chair laughing if they understood it and if you were Awai Guy? Who didn't swear? Foot luck! Good luck, jump out a window! There was another thing to your dirty: that's why he's successful? It's like it's a big man just start crushing and it won't be an issue yeah. Well, that was a nonsense. Issue too, like I don't want to follow someone dirty yeah, why not yeah? Why? What difference? Does it have yeah, but this idea that, like I'm, not because of reasons not new, just realized. This is been going on as a reason to be like
me? Why am I doing well yeah and it does it is. I think the real sexism, especially for women, is having to work with a bunch of people that are trying to you all the time, especially, I think at open mikes when you're already ready to quit anyway yeah your back ready to quit and now this these creeps around and there's no one to talk to and therefore have crazy, a coffee shop on the homeless for real yeah people line up for open mikes, there's a judge, five percentage of them that out of their fucking minds. So if you're, some girl, who already feels horrible around men to begin with, because you're smaller and you know, then of your a target for sexual there's no like manager to go talk to the heaviest guys talking, can you walk into my cars? No rules, no sign up! There's thirty! Other people sign up. You wait around for your name to be called if you're lucky get three minutes and you're still, no matter what five years away! making. A dollar sounds like you know what funk it. I'm done. If Mary Lynn CUP today gets harassed, she's not going to quit still making money.
Right. You know she might not come to the store anymore. If nobody does anything about it, but people would do something there's a place to go to for like how you need to get rid of this guy. This audience member can't come anymore, and that's just comedy. I mean with any job and, like I said, we'll issue worth well also with men. Men are fucking stupid. Ok, if you talking with a man and you're nice that man, He assumes you want to fuck them cuz this out is evolution or someplace, yeah we're monkeys my arm, and it's like I mean for the next two days. So if a woman is like kind to a guy and get some coffee, that guy thinks she wants to suck his dick 'cause he's stupid. Because this is more program, we're programmed to think that women who are nice to us. If that woman is attractive, she must be sending a Unless you want sexual attention, he can't just be some completely platonic: workplace
patient. That's not possible, because eight hours a day when your work, when someone else you develop feelings and thoughts and ideas about that person to realize that we're not we're doing the nasty show in Montreal and there's always young interns, some of them women- and you know, young people- are cuter than old people to tell you I'll stand by, you can barely once you get out of it. So I can talk to every magazine and you get this idea near there a week early from everybody else, and that's starts way earlier. So you pretty much you only English speaking show while the french stuff is going on and these interns come out and you're like oh, I think I can think one of them and then hit me like. Oh wait, there's also male interns who are also showing up to the shows and you're, like oh they're, all just comedy fans and I'm reading in these wind flirting, because there coming when they're, exhibiting the exact, literally the exact same behavior as the men who are coming right coming to like. I want to hang out with comedian yeah
and they might want hookah. They might not, but I'm sing something on them only because of their gender. And then it's like ok step back. You can't talk any of these people right yeah and that's must be what it is like if you're, the manager of an office and there a cute woman who works for you and a guy who's, fat and gross and their boy exhibiting the exact same friendly behavior towards you. You don't assume the fact I want to suck your dick right and then and then also it's like, if you can still hook up, but they have to do work. The underlying has to do all the pushing you, even though I don't think you can in an office environment. I think of the underlying keeps pushing. Then you could push they had to push. You could be like what are you doing this weekend? Everybody and thank you for movie, want to come, like I'm sure anybody else want, like you have to like really not push and put them in that position. Yeah and there's people going to advantage of that on both sides, yeah and even female side. There's a friend of mine who works at vice and uh. He
talking to me about this woman who is making these like really obvious, partitions, well, advances. She was trying to have sex with him and he contacted one of the other guys that he works with. That is also there and he's like do not fuck her like she is upwardly noble, like what she was doing, is trying to fuck her way up to the top. She did it to this guy and she called sexual harassment on him after she flirted with him and then there's wrecks Anthony did one of those people some fucking, some advance she shouldn't have and some. Since when people are political, some people are very calculated in some people are sociopaths and they exist with vaginas. They exist with penises. Just this is part of being a person there's some people that are just bad, people, but there's also some women who like power and that's not wrong either, and so it's like oh you're, a manager right. It's justifiably makes me want to fuck you a little more and so that's ok, too yeah
women, also the like being in power, and we hate those women, but we don't hate the men who like to be in power. That's a weird thing to like a woman to run shaped like this crazy bitch want to run everything. Where is a guy who, mister unce. It seems totally normal yeah. I will say it's a bigger wrong. It's like what are you most likely want to avoid. You know, and it seems bigger wrong for someone to have to like worry about getting fucking, not just being able to do their job versus. Oh, this chick wants us. The next want to get ahead. Yeah. Well, that's easy to avoid is for the guy. It's there's! No physical threat, yeah, you know easier than ever. Thank God bless America, like look at my house grabs like, and you could and did it anytime you want. It's not complain. Stop it. I mean unless you're like really a mess, and you know, do you vulnerable psychologically, physically, all the above, your Aaron aberration, yeah you're, an operation, yeah yeah
'cause. I don't know how to correct it, but like we were lucky, we don't have to work with people all day. Man beat people in a fuckin' office environment that are working around people all day and people have some weird shit, and then you go to the company his party and some guy who works with your wife, says some creepy shit to you 'cause, you know he's been like he's been, covering your wife behind your back, and you know he wants her and you know he's he talk shit about you do to her and she tells you and that kind of shit is so normal man, because you think about how many Hours are in a day. You have twenty four hours in a day, eight of 'em, you're, sleeping, ok, so how much time is commuting? How much time is work most of your day is at work. So your life is not with your spouse. You might not hook up with them, but you're interacting with them, and then it did '
fortunate away yeah. We do, you think, with people sometimes talk about me to go too far, but let's talk about for a second, let me to go on the right level. Do you think we don't work in office? Jobs were just guessing right. You think sex harassment or down now and last think men who are creeps are probably a little more cautious. I remember after them see a video people all over. It makes for calling each other out on it yeah and occasionally it was a question of it. Went too far were like you stole that joke from his active. We both talked about the same movie you're trying to write me off my whole career off because I talked about uh. You know whatever dance with wolves, and so are you. But your thing was about the native Americans. Your thing was about the fuckin' it you know the dog they had and so sure, once you are here there, but was nice where it like. It was no longer acceptable to steal jokes. Yes, and it wasn't just something we're going to tolerate right. It's gotta be like that too. With this me to stuff, it's no longer acceptable to fuckin' patent,
exactly blackboard or just wanted, and everyone else, even the guys like dude no did. I could imagine, being a man wear Rather the opposite. I could imagine, being a woman working for a man who wanted to fuck me an me getting raise me getting some sort of upward movement in my career, ended up on this person making a decision- and this person is always trying to fuck me it would be discussed, and that's what a lot of women have to deal with all day. Long and that's only one step of it: how about the fucking bill, Cosby step? How about you right your drink alone? Detroit Drink, that's a reality with a lot of women. That's not a reality with you or me when I was trying to rape us,
I mean there's a lot of ship that women have to think about that. We don't have to think about a lot. Many many many many many many many things it is interesting. This now is all coming up like what how many of you had some damn work, it's worse than I thought alot of it too. 'cause, like you, just want to believe the best thing in the world and people, and so when you like this act like now. All that can happen that much it's not like you're the problem, you're not doing it. You just don't I believe it's possible removed from some kid can get chopped up by some. You know some monster right now right, remove. We don't see it as much as not directed us to live in fuckedup worlds. Men are world. Is everybody smokes pot? Almost everybody drinks. You know everybody is a deviant. Everybody is impossible for them to have a regular job. Every single one of us that successful as a comic, it's virtually impossible for any of us to have ever existed in an office environment and survived yeah, we're too fuckedup
but we're perfect for comedy. You know what I mean so like us, us talking about office. Politics in office. Environments are still revive individual idea, really what it is full. That's why I think it's funny when people say like talk about Louis or something where it's like. It was a comedy festival. So is it his other job, but it's like! Oh! No! No! No! You just don't understand what country is public safety issue. If it was a workplace, then then you would have to say like by the way actually do people do coke at the work place right now, job people actually consensually Phuc during work yeah. I don't work place like that happens to the lot of pot smoking at our workplace. Yeah like it's, not it's, not it's not work place has a designated pot smoking place and now, where we are in the green room, can't funk with anybody. But you can't you can't smoke yeah, it's not it's not a workplace,
it's not well. It says you should still have the right to safety, but in a workplace. Well- and you should it's all, would like here's the thing like say: if you are Tom and Christina no you're married together, yeah, you could say in the green room, absolutely lock the door and who is going to stop you, so you can fuck at the work place. Yeah yeah! You could that's not an issue, be this girls coming, but you can't, if you know, you're the manager and she's a secretary and you put in the office to get fired for that. Even if it's your wife, you know do that now the real work you have a cat warrant, fuckit work when were kids got fired because that not allowed. What do you do at work from eight and they were like we caught you on camera, but so is that a problem I didn't realize trying to lie his way out of it yeah. Well, I think
people listen to more and slow, and I think it's the conversation gets sidetracked when you you, you hit on punishment too much when someone people get on punishment with this person needs to go away and take him to get back to the fucking same thing with Michael Vick it's when you're talking about whether he should lie football? It's like now, you've sidetracked me from just saying: don't kill dogs, yeah, I'm on your side, but like oh now, you sidetracked me to go now. He should be allowed by football. That has nothing to do with it. Let's just get back always to the argument like: let's make it safer for checks in the workplace, let's not let a black eye not get hired when he's deserving, were you know, let's fix that stuff, the punishment side, as you can still talk about but not when you're emotional. I think one thing that we've come within this conversation is jobs suck do so? No one should have them, because if you have them, people want to fuck you that you work with yeah. I think that's the that's the solution when it's like, I need to shut up, it's like oh well, then we can't help you or hurt
wow. Those people are just the there's friends, there's loud fringe people like that, you know I does one one of my favorite tweets. I saved for its from this feminist woman. That said, all all white males are trash and less proven, otherwise well we're not going to help. So well, good luck, unless proven. Otherwise is that's a ridiculous way to look at things and what, if a man's that all women are constantly proven. Otherwise, that's a bad person. Well, it's also like the answer to I don't know why it have been charged forever is not fuct these people over who I wasn't here forever, why people just need to stop talking yeah and it's like ok but the answer is lack of racism. Yes, complete lack, even in judging white people, even in judge white males, even in using white males in a position of power like this, should be no racism. There should be no discrimination and people should that presidential candidate early early last time, and I had a you
lives matter. You haven't heard about it. Yet you know he goes job what he was super aggressive like, of course, black lives matter all lives matter hi yeah I'd like to cancel logo for that's a slogan for the other side and they're like wrote him off and he's like how does it know butcher three words summation of the whole argument: yeah black lives matter or all lives matter. Bernie Sanders said black lives matter, and he said why and people call your super progressive. We love you Bernie, you're, playing by the rules that we've established and you saying the things that we make. You say. Yeah well, of course, all lives matter, but black lives matter. Well so to yellow lives matter. Also, it's too it's too crazy to it doesn't work as a slogan. If you go hey We need to figure out why black people getting shot at a higher rate in their percentages than white people by cops. So we need to like curb that immediately we didn't make it somewhere where you can actually trust the police to represent you all and not have a fear of them. It's like that's, not a slogan throughout right, But if you said that then note was
We have to worry about capital, like we were just talking behind that super, deep and complex conversation about systemic racism and communities where, like in Baltimore, they literally established zones where black people couldn't buy homes. Yeah, I'm not going to come up to three words. This is you've got giant cultural issues that should be addressed on literally. The a nationwide scale like we're interested in building nations and helping people in Afghanistan and the giving aid to Saudi Arabia and all these different we're all fill in the blank with whatever it is. How the are they not fixing the south side of Chicago yeah? I mean how the are they not fixing Baltimore, how they're not going to Compton Flint to form it was the only goddamnit Elon Musk has to step in and say he's going to fix your water and by the way you and I we have no idea about the back story to it and how to
we have now is. Our plan is worth so just worthless and no solutions were either. Neither one of us have any skin in the game we're talking out of our house, but but I'm not doing anything really wrong to people who are not hurting anybody, but if we want to look at things objectively, that is a real, valid argument. Real valid point of discussion, like sure black lives matter, but you know what else matters. Really bad communities that have been bad for decade after decade after decade. In there not be address by any politicians, they're not being addressed any community leaders. No one is coming in and saying hey before we do anything involving any other country. We've got to fix all the problems. We have right here and they can be fixed that can be fixed and it might take decades it might take years. I don't know how long it's going to take, but it's not going to be fixed
all if we do nothing right, I mean, if you we we've we've. That's also part of this are going to go so far as the pendulum is here. We want it back in the middle, so it's just have to swing a little too far to come back when we're talking about me, too, and and so harassment and rape and all this stuff. I think one of the things that we're dealing with is information. Distribution of information is occuring at a rate, that's unprecedented. It's never been like this before and I think there's a real step, that's going to happen with human beings, where you're not you're, going be able to literally read minds, and this is It happened through some sort of emerging with humans and technology. Elon musk believes it's going to be this thing that He'S- He'S- releasing something in the next few months called neural link, and this neural link is going to somehow or another increase the bandwidth between call in information. At a rate, that's going to literally change what a human being is and
he was explaining. It was very vague, but you know when you're talking about a guy like Elon Musk and the insane ideas that he has bounced around inside. It's fuckin' robot brain, I believe, I believe this is one step just like no one could have could ever predicted the internet in nineteen sixty, no one ever would have thought other than I think Malcolm Mcluhan had right some some people out some owners of those yeah, some people at some ideas of of what what could possibly happen, but no one, no average person saw this coming and I think no average person's gonna see these next, stages of integration between human beings and technology, and one of them is going to be some sort of a translation device, some sort of translation device that translates not just languages but thoughts and a
reversal language that is, it defies economic boundaries, boundaries, geographic boundaries, something that everyone's going to be able to understand, like the real problem with Tower of Babel argument is that you know some talking in Bangladesh and someone's talking Hannah someone's talking. America just saw so many different ways of saying things. It's too hard to understand, the mall, no one knows all the languages and also the new wants. Oh yeah, there's so much translated. The stranger in first sentence is, and it's in French I think, but it's it's mother died yesterday or the day before. I can't be sure and they had to have that's about shoes. Mother, shoes, mom should use Mama like which one is the actually meaning friend to not just get like a sterile one, but I could I can normalize once again. I think it's it's beyond just
translation. So yes ago heard- and I think this is one of the giant problems with whenever you're dealing with nationalism whenever you with this idea of the other that someone from another place is different than you, kids in Yemen's lives, don't matter nearly as much as I don't know. Well see, I'm not getting higher sure flames coming is a perfect example, because there drones to missiles into a country that we're not even supposed to be a war with kids errors, yeah, not insurgency. Six year old, little girl dead that times one thousand right, but if one died, 'cause like, but it's not it's, not. Ok, it's not happening in Chicago or San Francisco, so we're just not drones launching into the e village. So because that's not happening, we don't think of it as a concern of ours yeah and this I think these hurdles
these are informational hurdles as much as their geographical hurdles and their land turtles. And these are these are hurdles of understand and I think, as our realm of understanding expands and we get understanding of the idea that we really are just human beings in different places and that you are different than me and I'm no different from some kid who lives in China and they were all just human beings and whatever differences are they pale in comparison to our similarities and also the random chance that you were born. In Maryland, and I was born in New Jersey on to randomness and this idea that you take pride in that is so foolhardy and so ridiculous and the idea.
That somehow another were on some sort of a tribe, and this is something that human beings little cling to for security and safety and we go with tribe, left and try bright and we go with try progressive and tribe conservative and we go with tribe american tribe, Canada and tried Mexico. It's all foolishness and I think as technology expands, that will be more an more preposterous and you're starting see this with, even though the way people view religion. If you want at people from just a few decades ago, how many people in this country thought they were? How many identified as atheist? It's quite a bit less than today, quite a bit more or identify with today, because you start understand more about religion. There's Google people can ' and Bill Maher and SAM Harris. We're actually talked about this in a podcast recently because they were talking about the tenth anniversary of Religulous Bill mahers documentary and they made a really good point that Google came along and when Google came along, people are allowed
how to then research the history of Mormonism, where they never really before, I think oh wait, he was fourteen and one thousand eight hundred and twelve. Actually in Joseph Smith, was just a kidney made up a bunch of find me a fourteen year old. It's not full of shit and that's way more impressive and then and and many of the you know many of the chapters in the Bible. When people look at the difference between the new testament testament and who wrote it, and why and and how many pass ages were removed in edited by human being so like how we you decide the work of God like what gets to be released and what's not yeah to all that stuff. Is it it's an ounce of it's kindling for the fire of enlightenment and in that fire spreading, and I think that it's an informational tool and these at this yeah I thought I might meant is- is
it's bad term, fire enlightenment, but nobody was red when you realize it's like me too, when it really does get out like wow, I didn't realize how bad it had gotten and we think about how many women you you like they were talking about this long time ago, you like come on yeah and, like many Hon, relax honey. The exact like bats, okay and I like flock- I guess it is really bad. Well, the Kana Beach areas That's the thing I remember hearing about that when I was at Newsradio yeah, I was is a thing like. I guess I don't know, maybe think about it like in terms of real terms at level person, actress, yeah or if that was my sister who went through that or my mom that's another. Season. Two will try to put myself in the place, I'm pretty good at. Like I mean you see me tell stories I got worked up. I can put myself in the place I was, or you know, imagine something pretty pretty good and so So it's like yeah, if we just sister, your mom or girlfriend or wife daughter going through it, like- I think, oh you know it's just so mad, but then the same
When I hear about like I don't know like Louis and it's my sister is like. Told like he did what he, Is it alright with it all read like you read cubes how many were gray yeah, so it's like right, yeah I try to put in this position is best. Ok, it's still don't have to go through it if it's wrong, but like there's levels, but also it's like getting back to. It's like you really here well stuff now and you're like whoa, but there's also in terms of someone like Louis there's. Gotta be a road to redemption, and this is one of the problems with people that are so fucking angry is that they don't think there's any redemption. They want Michael, could rewrite election in a way, never play again, but the Michael Vick thing is different. What is Michael, Vick Tor Richard and murder, didn't murder, Eagle, Birdie also went to jail, should feel or you don't see to the crime that the state said you would need to
this fall right. Did he served his time? He lost his freedom for four years. Yes, yes, so his job that he had before has nothing to do with it, but it does come down to people going. I and I'm not through with you suffer. Yeah okay Center with Leslie Dill. Think it's a different, I'm not angry with you suffer you represent killing evil to women. Torturing different. Do you represent evil to women just because you beat off his are representative of leper they're? Not, of course it is Cooper, but like not even that I don't think but like like a pervert, I guess What are you? I don't know? Man, sexually deviant, hang out with two girls who are like talk Sorry for two days ago, on drinks with on the circuit, let the idea it's like, I think, about the coming of a threesome and like that's not enough reason to go for it's a are right. I anymore signs like you say you want to go out for drinks and they do. It's like still, no, it's not enough versus signs like yeah, you're, right you're right! Oh, I know all about my hotel room. That's usually pretty universal sign.
And they're coming. There came to my hotel room. No, that's not enough you're right, you're, right, you're right all these signs, not not enough! Tell you what I'll just ask outright. Can I fucking jerk in front of you, and they said? Yes, no, that's still not enough. What are you talking about. Well here's the so, no not creeper, but he represents things to people just like Roseanne represented Trump when she said the character voted for Trump in next, the show so because presented of evil gets women. They go just get rid of that representative right. And they're not seeing him as a human being that people actually know that is a human as a person. Not only that If someone says yes, if you ask, can I beat in front of you and they say yes and then never say no. No! I was just kidding just kidding. Just leave the yes out there. Is this we're done here. We're done. Did you see us? Ok, So if a girl says can I can I play with my pussy in front of you and you go yeah, and then she doesn't go well. That was fucking.
Testing, and I can't believe this happened and I'm going right to the press like wait. A minute. Did you say? Yes, yeah? Ok, here's Something is if this is an aggressive, ANG the person who traps you to room you've got thrown away. You can get out the only way you can get out of this room. You let this guy beat off in front of you and you, fearful of your life people. Don't really most people don't really care. I saw him on stage laugh like crazy yeah. They were so happy and when he goes like I'm just going to jokes tonight, everyone's like fuck, yes, yeah, just do jokes, jokes. We just want to see what we loved about two years ago, ten months ago, yeah and Michael Vick would just kiss you throw we're done with that. You did your crime or we still hate you with Michael Richards, how you got your job. He just got. He just yelled out racer shirt but like, but like nobody, nobody thought nobody likes him
stage, but I think yeah you're right. So it's like I'm missing about Lewis is you know, there's got to be some path of redemption for everybody. For everybody I mean human beings vary wildly bill, Cosby, no, not go up at a prison. Talent show no! No. No! It's over Pick Kevin open up in prison, no Greg? I'm kidding, that's what I look until you see the connection to what he did for this job. You know I mean if you PETE rose bet on baseball. He heard the job he was doing so that you, like you, can't be in baseball anymore because you over baseball but any suck over baseball by betting on it yeah he they show he like, probably through some games for him, go. He like uses relievers in situations wouldn't have that he can't use him tomorrow because he flipped over baseball so
base. I don't know anything. That's has shut its doors to you right. If you steal jokes, yes, you may be. There is a path to redemption, maybe but you over jokes. Well, you Oct over other comments. So you've talked over the experience you're talking about getting back to you, but not guy can go to the supermarket. Yes, can work at another job because there's nothing you haven't to show me a connection to another job, see the thing about the joke. Stealing thing, and this is where it gets really really. We're word is: there's no real punishment other than people deciding they don't like you, 'cause you're a joke thief, and that is the real punishment like that. I might consider ticket sounds like no. No. What I'm saying is it's different than someone who steals cars right, someone steals it is a pleasure set up. Yeah you go to jail to legal. As someone steals jokes like you basically done the same thing, your stolen a thing: you know that thing ethereal. The thing award of you've a little different, because you can still do your jokes for sooner Kerr, you car,
I have a car, no, no! No! No! No. If somebody goes on in front of you like we know, men see it did yeah and does your headline disclosing that I'm a heartless to with you, he would do closing bits about was Freddie with Bobby once and he was like you're, going to love it or he would flock with Bobby populated, but it wasn't a steel yeah. It was defunct with Bobby, but he said you gotta love. This guy he's so funny and body. All he wanted was Freddie. Support he looked up to him so hard. You could never get it Our love is this guy? Does this joke about selling corn on the side of the road was like Bianconi Corner yells, so good? He has his little bit about about his details, bits he would just tell the end, punchline is a terrible thing to happen. He was walking with him, but he wasn't doing, to gain himself only to hurt Bobby and only in one moment that I ever saw, but it was like fuck. You,
I'm a bad in the area. I mean they were bitter enemies. It was. I was a bitter enemies found out riding writing them out to somebody long time before does. Does the arguments wait? Yeah, it's done but like they hated each other back, then Mmhm Freddie hated Bobby Bobby Ojeda back only because the thing about people getting caught, it's like the punishments, re although it's almost better than going to jail, yeah, it's like we don't we we know about you now. Not only do we know about you now, but the public knows about him now and the disdain is palpable and it's real and you see it not just with him not to submit see a but there's a few of them, and you can tell a difference too. Between somebody going back. I took that guy's joke versus back. I takes jokes, you know I mean that that's a package at that's out there, that's real right, but doesn't quite stick as much as like.
We all just know that guy steals jokes right. You know yeah. Well, it's not possible, like Imperial, it's like over and over again like it's such a clarity to in the difference between the jokes. They come up with on their own and the jokes that they steal and sure you can keep going up. You can still sell theaters, so your punishment is, we know about you. Can you cancel out theaters, though? That's what happens to them eventually, but a lot. I'm still do name one drink. Oh, continue to sell it theaters, while he does it, things start but died off eventually, but a lot of people die off to, but during while it was happening, and there was no real he's still doing massive numbers mincio still doing living better than most a level comics even out right now you mean even right now. Actually he still makes more money than than MIKE that he only does you know that really good comes in big J. Does you know published a much more money than I do to be honest,
I'm doing a score. Is I've ever done, but like so it's like, if you have a choice, is a good athlete. Your honor is you'll, never get the respect of your peers. That's a big deal with us you know it's not quite- and I were talking about this in the back of the comedy- store who's talking about a bunch of shady was going through and splitting up and all this at eagles. Listen at the end of the day. All I give a fuck about. Do I the love and respect of my peers, yeah and those guys don't have it and it fucking drives him crazy and so there's a punishment. You can take jokes and do whatever, but like I never going to look up to you and that's what you want: yeah, nobody hates Laree, nobody hates Larry, cable guy, think he's like game, but nobody hates him Larry, the cable guy. It's a great great guy he's way right, one one more story, Father God yeah! This is a! really mmm. Podcast is kind of not, but it is, but that's really sad. Everyone's walking podcast is always like that, though I did this thing, you help.
Like organized a little bit or arranged in my head, where I was really stoked on the XP la people have with medical marijuana, and I said it's not fair that other people can have this experience of taking these. Breath. Strips are a UFC how great it is, and I was like I'm going to have an event called hunt for the edible. Oh no- and I I'm going to hide marijuana have a scavenger hunt at first, I thought like have some clues and it'll come to me I'll. Give it to him like a couple. Do that and come to you in? Like the point good point, I gotta hide this, so I would I'd drama drugs, but don't need marijuana one time mushrooms, but I got at UFC's I have access to a beforehand. We went to the MGM. If, for the Wayans half it was shut down to the other half, I could just walk through freely and I would hide it with tape. These breath strips.
To somewhere the first one is underneath the bathroom sink in a fucking in one of the bathrooms and draw clues twitter release them. Every five minutes planned out ahead time with one was like. If you want to get high, go up a level and was like ok, people will like run up, people got into it, they run. Levels and then until this guy was like, I think it's right here, this bathroom sink. Then he looked under it undid. It had a note in there with the proper dosage No, I don't. I don't want to anybody over it and it became such a fun fun time I got, it was doing the powers that be knew about it and said nothing. It's a plausible deniability. I don't know, I don't care. Where did I promote it No, I tell people, I don't think so, yeah so how How do you think they knew about it later? I might have mentioned it on the podcasts or something, but he was so. One. For me,
and I would do it over and over again and then I would go back. I remember looking times where I would go. I would tape it to like a pillar somewhere. I like the pearl and I would go to see if it's found in order for Usher go like I was looking at, he didn't know. I was wondering who hit it. You know he you just go what you're looking for is no longer here, because I guess a bunch of people kept coming to this pillar and they would follow the clues. No one said: angry usher. It someone said it's bound, now cut the game later, I want to delete all the clues. I'm not looking to fuck over the cops or anything like that, but It was so fun one time nobody found and, as I was leaving like still here, I'm fucking taking it off using myself, but that high two of 'em underneath the Falcon fire extinguisher. Something like that. Now one time um somebody found it and then came down not like right behind me and Chandra, and then these these ushers
security guards came and found the guy and said hey. I need you to come with Maine and they took him out and I was like fuck he kept his mouth like. It was just going in front of me and I sat there for about thirty seconds and I was like I gotta go standard. I gotta go fucking. I turn myself in on this wow yeah and she was like. Well, I'm I'm not letting this fucking kid do. I gotta say like now I'll figure it out, and then I went up there and they're like oh they're, just moving our seats because purpura signal rockets were fine right now, they're all that got that, didn't you get busted in Like Minneapolis or something at the Mall of America that wasn't a UFC at the Mall of America. I go you just doing it outside. You have sure people would be pretty well. Actually never did much mushrooms was in was in Winnipeg was not at UFC was just that comedy shows, but UFC experience was so fun for me to give these people the drugs that I took.
I want you to experience this heavily blown out on weed experience tonight me and DS get to do and it was fun spread that joy, it really was fun when my face. Convert memories of this UFC wonder if you could do that again now that it's totally legal who maybe you're right, California and Nevada they're, both legally legal, legal, legal Massachusetts, legal legal, wow, there's a bunch dates now. You know, and now all of Canada, all of Kim all right Canada went whole hog. I could do it again. Canada salute you bad mutherfuckers, yeah, finally coming through and that's a beautiful thing, they did. They made legal one hour one hour before the first guy got pulled over smoking weed this car. Probably right now as it was, it was an hour after was filling a glass again, but the don't do that. But we before you get in the car you maybe a month stupid, don't be ridiculous yeah, but that was on my favorite memories of
sees having that thing. We had some good God Damn times when it was funny that it took me a long time to figure out that I could combine the UFC and Comedy yeah. I remember you take. In this with us a few times and then I was like do Why are we doing nothing on Friday nights? I know what you mean like schedule show. Can you schedule a show yeah I mean we're going to guest spot somewhere yeah. Let's just make a couple bucks. What did we do? How do we start doing it? I think, honestly, when we did like the pearl or something court, Mccown would be like if you want to come in and do a set, you can like, like DOM Irrera right like senses like come to September, smoking cigars with me, you him Kevin James and just like the common bar. Thus far, I hated those clubs, but those common bars were the best were great and we were, but we could around. We didn't get mobbed yeah and then eventually. I was like hey instead of just doing an occasional guest spots, why don't we do clubs and the clubs we get full? Remember God Tori doing something, maybe in Omaha
so having a midnight Friday show. Can we do that? You don't want bump anybody right, but then you would schedule it. It's in months out, so nobody was scheduled, yeah and then theaters. Just one night anyway, and it was. It came like we're not wasting time doing these fun, UFC stuff, we're actually working, If you ever want to do this again, man, we could do some. It became harder as a star headlining to be like. I got to give up time now to go to that. For one time it was you like. Can you come to Dallas? You know the six shows that are important to you, it might not be the most money or anything, but it's important to you um case in point. I went in to do the Wilbur my first time doing the Wilbur. You know, and that was one of the ones I remember you doing the opening for you when I'm doing two shows at the Wilbur like this is I want to show Boston, important comedy city yeah so then I was like. I need to get like a really good opener. Just somebody I got Joe List was like your headliner. I need you to open for me and luckily he been open for Lewis and his schedule became clear
lucky for us that I opened ever so lucky for us this, but yeah, and you like. You had this show in Dallas and you're like. Can you do it like I'm doing the Fuckin' San Francisco Comedy Festival like how much you get paid? I honestly like four hundred dollars. It's not about that. I agreed and I'll give you five thousand dollars I'll cancel now when I get off the phone right now and I'll go ahead and finish line you do it 'cause, it would be more fun yeah, there's that too it would be more fun. I mean we've had some fucking fun times and last and when I talk to people about the role of the God. The rule is lonely, the roads are like you doing it wrong. Yeah supposed to do with your best friends. Do some fun ship with it. I try to stay later on Sunday and go hiking if it's like, oh yeah, if it's cold New York and I'm in Austin Fuckin' stay in the warm a little bit, do something fun, that's a good move, but yeah. But your friends is the number one different thing man, you know the
first thing we did. That was too big. It was too much trouble. That's too much work is too hard to organize and get everybody getting too much pressure on me 'cause. I don't wanna deal I just want you to be an administrator to with these people, even two openers or two acts with me. It's too much work. One person is the only reason you brought a second opener because one over there were so irresponsible. You couldn't trust it be there. He was so brilliant that I refuse to not hire him whatever I could work with. The obvious answer is get someone else, but you're like now I'll get a buffer in case. Well, my feeling on d is is always it like. I have a special I've always had a special place in my heart for him 'cause. I he reminded me so Show my friend, Johnny Johnny, be from New York, who taught the pool player yeah I knew what Joey we was seizes brilliant guy who had a really hard time with reality with with with life with civilization. He was just, but in those moments of brilliance. He was worth everything to me, so I was like look.
I'm going to try to do with this guy is I'm going to try to somehow or another cuz I had. I was in mainstream. I had a television show women's health clubs that I could headline I'm like I'm going, We did bring this guy into the world and I'm going to show him how I do it and I'm going to like indoctrinate him. I'm going to I'm going to you know me he's older than me, and I respect him and I'm not like a mentor to him, but I am someone who was more advance. In comedy and but was a giant fan of Joey Diaz. I was like I just want to figure out a way where you can work for this guy, because I know if this guys is, out there, hustling and and being crazy and coke. It's just going to go off the rails, like whatever I can do to an, and I think it helped him that someone who was established stab
a guy who legitimately me didn't give a fuck what he did. I wanted him to be. Let it be himself want to be. Okay, let the wild with what I'm going to be fun. I I don't care I never cared about what went on I wanted. I wanted fun, for everybody like that was in was important for me that I be the only one that that's one of the biggest. Poisons ever with comics, be the only funny one around the headliner, I'm the only one who kills and you guys are doing too well or you guys are doing too much time. For me, it was I go have fun where here to party this is a policy point Denver once when I I mean I just had way too long with just me and you, I think I did forty four minutes and red bands like to do like forty five minutes. No, I did not for just didn't realize things like you did, I'm like there's no way I did. Twenty five or thirty such a good club, the Commodores, and it goes I recorded it on video. I can show you the starting point in the ending point and he did- and I was like oh fuck- I've told you this before, but I was like dude, I'm so sorry that was way wrong. Like no
matter I like now, I'm really I'm really sorry, but no it didn't matter. I'm like no, but I shouldn't do that. You know you killed and then I went up and killed. You haven't made a connection to me where it does actually matter. Doesn't we both killed? Why is it an issue if it goes off the rails? One time and you go along like who gives a yeah? That's not consistent that one. It's just that the whole thing to tell all of us should be. We have the process, try some have fun and the audience has a great time. That's what I all that's all I wanted and the like, and to have also that stand up, wasn't something that I had to do for money like stand up. Was almost like. Supplementing the hot weather was Newsradio money or fear factor money. It's like. I had all this money that I I could my bills were. Okay, I
It's ok! I don't have to think about it, so I didn't worry about getting kicked out of clubs. I didn't worry about not getting booked like so watt like we're here to have fun and we rolled through the entire country like that, and it worked out. It was fun God, damn dude. We had the time of our lives when you look back. If we look back as You know senior citizens at the fucking, the rare great times that we had consistently all across the country, the offset stuff stuff gray. For me on stage was getting more stage time. Then I would get in LA, and I was getting this weird exposure to an actual good crowd where I could like experiment, pausing, I wouldn't be afraid of losing crowded. By shows you doing one slash two hour consistently. Two shows a night starting Michelle. She just went to a wolf. She just went to work for the first time and I was like oh, how is it shows it's not fair, they're laughing at setups, it's just too good. It doesn't make sense and like it's a victory lap
should enjoy it, and then I remember like I think that might have been the first time I went with Brogan was an I was doing so well that he's like oh you're, coming with me again. It was almost like, like it was unfair showcase canal doubt. Why already knew you were funny? meeting with first place, but I was like this is the perfect club for anybody to try out and 'cause it's so sad, like a wind, assisted, You know with heavy gusts of wind right. It's almost like you have a yeah yeah. Oh, they were fun yeah. We had a great fucking time dude, but it works. Look I mean look how all the people went with us, whether it's DS or Dunkin, or you or Segura there, murdering now, all over the country murdering doing quite well. If I was a talent scout. Do not be one hundred percent? No, you would not think are okay,
ok, I'm going to write down and put it under the got. Damn close, you have a great percentage, the people that I was in one hundred percent on. They failed themselves, but they also have the potential to be, and then it's on them well discipline is something that a lot of people lack man. It's not very, very unfortunate and we're seeing it right now, Bert Kreischer you're behind by one thousand points. Mother fucker. Can I promote it before we go doing a lot of reading of the of the the Danish O'Neill in New York November. Eleventh of the screen play a role in college. Been hearing about this horrible hide cast on sober up trouble when you're walking running or it is God, damn awesome, I'm so angry and full so it'll draw locking, had Larry yeah you're, my favorite when you're angry, angry ARI is my favorite part when you're so fucking furious. That's that's my favorite art and then I got a european door coming November and November 16th starts in looking at ends November December, ninth in Zurich and all sorts of cities. So
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