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nice to see you. What is the be burnt behrendt? Well, yes, it means bear. You know, Mario Heavy ass. Well, it's norwegian. My great grandfather who built a boat and sailed to North Amerika was named Behrendt. Oh well, yes, so that people have. Pronounced it as burnt my whole life, which also has a certain ring of truth to it. About Tom Behrendt is good step solid but burnt? Well You gone back to Norway ever yes, although I don't know if it's back exactly well, I mean just to go visit the motherland, your mother. Let happened yes, yes, I I was there a couple years ago. I've been there many times. Are you popular there ironically s, you seem to be Peter everywhere

I mean I'm trying I mean the goal for me is to maintain it. Yes, how's that been with covert and not being able to tour I'm doing right now, yeah like there's only three states really go to at the moment of Florida, Jordan, taxes. It's where are you right now, I'm in Atlanta. Do they limit the number of people in there is still fun to do. I mean the maximum is one hundred and fifty people in the club, but that's fine. I mean as long as there's people and they're laughing. I don't really care how many there are. I've done shows back in the day where there was like three people in the audience. You know anything over. Three is good. I've done academic lectures like that too, right sometimes where there are more panel members than there are audience members all You got a deal with all that other stuff. I do. I have to do what How do you mean you're gonna do

the panel members in the board, everybody else wants to come out and watch you and you're and like well. I'm not here, for you guys, I'm here for those guys, there aren't any of those guys? Well, there will be soon, like. It's back to normal you'll, have plenty of those guys Oh you're you're in little clubs and that's a day but you're, often in stadiums like which do you like better, I made the clubs like being in the gym. You know when you looked like a fighter, fury of training for a fight, nearing your dirty little gem and you workin out every day and sparring with guys and George you gotta do and then, when you are ready, you take it to the big stage. Right. I saw Louis e K and little club in New York when he, Polishing enact couple of years ago and yeah, so I knew of that, that training regimen. So to speak. I miss him. He's back, you saw him at the comedy seller, probably yet

that's right, village, where better. We ok, together me Louie, everybody Chapelle. We all came up the backlog too. Back in the mid nineties. I will go there, I don't even how got on got. It realises the tough club to get in and answered it from. Because of the time was we re coming up so again is with us. He's got drunk on, ok go as handy. He had very handy for none of us realize it we're gonna, be unanimous, going to make it. We all were just doing just doing this because we wanted to do. How did you get started in comedy? did you decide? I wanna be a comedian. That seems like something that nobody can achieve world for me it was. I didn't want to work for anybody. Was just genuinely. This is recommended, I'm genuinely a lazy person. Yeah. So I didn't know is it that you didn't want to work or that you didn't want to work for anybody bit of book or both innovative approach, but I have a problem.

Already, so am I a gun. I think you can understand that we Still things were critical thinkers. We don't just accept the information they need. The challenge is to make sure that this is not all information or one sided so, especially when it comes to authority, in those little low life not low life but those places where they don't really have authority but they're using some sort of authority against you. I've never been with that. We're gonna, Aldo, choose a young and blower back in the early nineties, and thus the district manager didn't like me, so he would always make me do really annoying things like your change, the shelf right. They like that, just really tedious annoying things, and what am I was really sick and he was like do it and I'm like I was doing it really slow, because I was tired and sick and he's like. What's with the owners exists against items can use weapons. Biogas get the fuck away from me.

And he was like on your supervisor. Don't get shit who you are I'm sick? I don't feel good leave me alone and then they hired a new management than he had told the new man drew to break my balls and then ultimately the job, because I came in late. I gotta speeding taken on lake shore. Managers and why you like my search on this being taken against this. Is a good enough answer and I grabbed a maximum against the wall upon stomach and I left he that's dramatic, I mean you know. I just got a ticket and I was irritated already. I didn't have money, I don't have money and now negative money, because I got this ticket and I got this guy being a jerk about it. I'm like this is not gonna work, so scar very high on agree ability, agreeableness think as I get older, I do, but I have to respect the person they mean that those ideas like war is a guy I respect the hell out of tell the sky purple and I'd probably believe that I'd like in auditing is rightly vacancies onto something here it is per.

Sometimes when the sun sets its true today There we go. We established that right away. So what's this never gets of your hat. Do my hair, but for attractive and your hair is well. I gotta show later and I dont want to do it early, so I can do it after. I did this why do I did you jitsu, and this is my teacher schools up. So I have a question you a burning question. I watched one of your comedy specials. I think it was from London, I believe so it was in a big auditorium, big arena. I mean you had tens of thousands of people in there, which I thought. First of all, I thought that was remarkable, that you could pack a whole arena I want to talk a little bit about that. But what I found so fascinating? Was that book your it was obviously multi cultural and you, insulting one racial or ethnic group after another, and you could feel

hunger in the air, even through the television screen for race or ethnic group. Waiting with bated breath for their turn to be insulted, yes, and so what are you, of that and how the hell do you get away with it? Well, I think it's because I touch on things that when I talk about a certain group of people, I'm talking about it from their perspective, not my perspective, So the way they read it as they read it, I just guy actually understands us. We can't be offended because just said some, only we should know about ourselves which means either an insider or he's? We paid a lot of attention to us, the one where the other they know it's done as a tribute as opposed to making fun of, and when you call people out nonsense. Inside out there like. Now Did you know that? Ok, we can trust this guy. Ok, so then

how do you know that you have a network of informers like embedded now racial groups all around the world? Now I do when I travel around, I just pay attention I like to go to malls when I found much now, because I you know, I am, I think I've been to most of the places at least want to try Already some pretty familiar with the lay of the land, but if I feel itself different in the air. I'll definitely go out and investigate what's happening out there. I asked local people that, like just really simple questions, you know what do these people do here? How are these people treated who looks at people who looks at who is lower, looks a people's hiring. You don't figure it out from there. I hope determine which women go with this. I got was in. I was in Berlin couple years. No shows I've never been to Berlin before never meant Germany before and I noticed a someone got onstage and I said so good to be here and in Berlin I tried your local.

Cuisine. Last night I had no clue you guys were turkish briquettes turkish mood. Africa I enjoyed the new great german kebab. It was bent at. They want to see you go and see what's really going on. They don't want to want you to come in and be like. Oh that was twenty years ago, get get with the times. You know you're what there's nothing worse than an outdated comic. Well, that's true to be on the cutting edge. It can happen to you at any time. Those are come. Yeah yeah. Why. I also think it seemed to me that you know you're giving people credit by swimming, that they can laugh at themselves right. That's the hallmark of pretty well developed character. The ability to for yourself and an eye attics some eggs, with this when I first became reasonably well known people.

Loaded, the similarity of my voice to the voice of Kermit the frog, and I saw it through four times- and I thought, oh, my god- that I hope that's not true, and then I went listened to curb the frog and I thought oh, my god, I sound exactly like Kermit the frog and I've never put that together, but now that you've said it, I just pictured Kermit talking. Yes, it's really terrible and the guy who plays Saul on better call Saul Dave Bob Odenkirk. Yes, apparently I saw- like him too, but anyways many people made much my similarity with Kermit and then there was a whole Pepe the fraud. Saying and hunt of means, and they were good hearted, but I didn't. I noticed that there was a testing behind it. You know, if you make, Of someone and they react badly to it, then then you You ve got some insight into the negative parts of their character and You make fun of them and you allow them to laugh at themselves, then you're speaking to the part of them that can transcend their own pre

It is in their own narrow, mindedness, and I really all that in the autumn, in the auditorium that it was such a relief for your audience to be a place where everybody could make fun if everyone else and no one had to be, write about it and it was. It was all capped off by that strange. Phenomenon that seem so this frankly, human that copper? she d laugh, which is completely incomprehensible work for me you know right away when you talk to somebody by their body language, the tone of their voice in the way they look at you like. I have been doing this for thirty two years now. Also for me, AIDS When I talk to them, I can gauge which way there too this information and I could see if they're about if they want to go, after your new acknowledgement to stay with my god, I can guide bring him back again, but sometimes it in a good guys. Usually younger guys that have a bit of an attitude about it. They they think they're cool. They also think they know things and that's when I that's my

Fatherly instinct, I go shut up kid, listen! I'm talking were you Were you always funny? Not But how funny you don't Are you a class clown? No, the class clown as the loud popular kid he's kind of a jerk, comedian is the one sitting at the back of a class elbowing, the garrison one. Look at this fuckin idiot, Class clan will do whatever it takes to get a laugh. You put on a skirt, but he's usually the pillar guy, which is why ones laughing committees making fun, of whom I was not as popular as the class clowns and when the class clouds were never. Funny to me. I was like you said to me: you know anybody, guy beside me, who would who would enjoy or the other reason.

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you have yet to trigger the dry, because I can't get it. I have to go to never wants to give it a shot out soon enough. Joe Railways is Michael, Michael dosing with what mushrooms and they use that's about to become legal in Canada. I think it's not far away, I would say somewhere in the next couple of years it should become legal. There, our companies now another there's a company in BC that its it somewhat legal or it's not that illegal. Something too, to Micro dose so there are no companies. I've seen that will say this is from micro dosing, but here's three grams, which run up to your minute. I mean you're gifts it's kind of drinking. You know you. We suggest you have one drink, but you know people sometimes gonna abuse it, but I think we will get past. I because I don't think, it. Re really is meant to help you on a day to day basis, it's almost

in essence, I almost got multivitamin you nobody. Much higher level. I think it will be good for investing I know that when, when we took off here definitely going for investing answers, I reckon keeping an eye on these things. Sars interest- and I see that the European Union, that is to say yes, I mean you know about that I'll, give you the guy's information than you can contact him. If you choose to I haven't been in serious trouble with the media fur. Three days, I think so it's probably time to do something little. What do they you for. Jesus. I don't know really I mean I I expected the attention around me too, to dissipate three or four years ago and

for some reason it it doesn't stop and I can't figure it out really. I think I think maybe it's because the media types I mean some of them have supported me. Don't get me wrong, but they can't really figure me out because what I'm doing isn't really political, its psychological and I am a clinical psychologist. I been writing these, books to help people there's other. Since as well, they have to make The political and I dont quite fit that more old, and so I dont think they know what who is me and every one of you in a box as an enduring the box and then burn the ground and then salty earth I want, and they want you to say, I'm left or I'm right and you're like listen, I'm neither I'm watching both sides and making money decisions How I see you, I don't know if that's true or not, but I see you in a very similar, not that I'm wear on equal footing, but

I see you in the same way. I see things. I don't pick a team here, I'm just watching both sides and trying to figure out where the fuck is the truth. Well. I hope that that's what I'm doing, that's how I read it. I appreciate that there are not getting that that means they are not smart enough to get you that, therefore they shouldn't be got well, it's it's yet been a great mystery and it's all come up again this week. So I dont know what to say bout it exactly it's stressful. Yet, however, it is dreadful but remained the problem that their problem with you is that you're very articulate. And you enunciate well and they can handle that, because they're trying to push him into a corner to make you're the sweat and hopefully hoped that you follow. Hard and unlike its not a facade guys, that's really do this guy you're, not make that my ass. Be part of the problem they might have been

doing things or even listening to lectures? And now I got? Maybe he's got that memorize? Maybe this is somewhat of a facade. I think that could be part of it. I'll get the real thing and then when it doesn't appear, it makes them angry. Maybe we, Northern Al Burtons, are known for pronunciation skills. You're from Northern Alberta, Yes, I am where you're from behind, as they were drawn away, no Three hundred and fifty miles north West of Edmonton and little town called Fairview. I know fair view, there was a mere back in the day. Lily Fairview twenty six years ago I did show shone Fairview when I remember going what the fuck is this place, it was like. Why was a hockey arena there yet the hotel was part of the hockey arena and had no windows, it literally, this room just like cement walls was like. Am I jail and it was freezing. Yes, it's freezing

very cold there near gets very cold in Canada, obviously, but that's particularly particularly cold part of Canada, yes own. I know exactly where you're from where there was a comic back in the day: maybe around They were ninety six. Ninety seven commonly Monticola died out there. It was, I think he was. Going for a runner, something they got hit by a truck? Who am I the air was all bad because I remember had lent him all these readjust tapes of big kiss fan when I was a kid? large, that's embarrassing! Accused of I found these really. The gestures, tapes and I let them to him and then he died of like dammit, I'm gonna get my kissed Actually, I listened to kiss when I was thirteen. I have to admit it. How old are you now? Fifty eight, so you got seven years on me

I thought you were younger than that you're you're, so useful. Looking from the Breton I'm I'll be fifty one. This year. So you're, not in Canada anymore. He relocated to the states fifteen years ago about by day I consider moving back home every day. Like you know what I don't see, the purpose of being here anymore, where are you located, I'm in Vegas in LOS Angeles? in Vegas, you live in Vegas yeah. I've been there for fourteen years. That's that must be a trip. I mean at first you knowing when I was when I first moved out their those are my late thirties. It was great, you know, you're you're young guy, you gotta me suddenly got money you got, dependence? You can The blast in Vegas at that time maybe get older. You like ours, is not for me anymore and

and near my kids are both in LOS Angeles. I spent some time there to see them all the time. I think that the only thing stopping me from America, Canada, I, my kids, because I have two different baby mamas, because I'm an idiot and one I I would my daughter go with the other one one. Will not my son go. That's that's a different. Partnership on its own. So I like allay I've been there many times I like Ellie, you seen what I think. What's asking you and your robins bar guest yeah, May I have some friends out in a way that I visit quite frequently so, but it there are some Advantages to living in Canada, I then college, it being it being Canada, that's too bad

it's funny to me when I hear the Americans, but we're not turning into a socialist country, its socialism, like it's really not that bad guys. It's really not that bad! It's you see how your teeth the crooked and use is is broken. Well, wouldn't wouldn't be like that Canada, because so Should this assholes taxes are like it's. Like the same now I mean I was thinking we pay high taxes, you get something for it, you get better, roads and you get healthcare over here, you get nothing. You might just get shot. That's about it. I'm ready to move somewhere warmer. I had taxes is looking pretty nice. Texas is pretty cool I do like Texas. I do you not wrong gala. So a year, how is your comedy changed and shifted over the years? I think it's become a bit more interest back there, The second I'm doing right now is as introspective muzzle as the last one was but

and it's a work in progress right now. I don't know I'm trying to figure out how to award this one the right way, because I don't want it The line you now and again twenty telling align some is bound to get offended him taken the wrong way, but I want to good so that if you get the wrong way. I could show you why you wrong. So a lump figuring out the wording at the moment, but you don't jump China cover subjects about you know. It's all part of you and I part of the generation, that I say that feel, like my generation is man at the younger generation like we look at them like the idiots and then soft and at this sensitive? But the problem with that is we made that generation that nation was inside of us and we released it. So I'm trying to figure out the wording behind all of this, because I want to make it and I want to make. Man. You know you understand that I am. I reckon

as a at you, but I also recognize that I can't stop myself a mad at you Every generations tend to think that the up and coming generation is softer. Absolutely we was in my brain or my parents that same thing annex I bring that as well. You know my every time I said my dad when he would hit me He would tell me how much less debating this was then he got I also like to go the extra mile and make it extra Goba said my dad, the one lucky This is all you're getting your grandfather through a leopard at me. We get a leopard, it was India Damon everywhere. Have you The tone things down in committee because I, like there's people well are all stressed out anyway because of this whole covert situation, but comedians have been have been

somewhat destroyed- and you tell like you're really funny, but but you You veer into well I would say like a lot of race, jokes and you described them earlier there funny, and maybe it's because you cater to the people you're you're joking But how do you manage one? How do you manage to, I guess, get way with doing that, especially with media and yeah. That's the main question work I kind of beauty for me is that my audience. Is loyally, my audience, so the people that are getting offended would never have bought a ticket to see me to begin with, so I can cater to the to the hatred I gotta catered hemolytic gonna then enjoy I want to see what you do. It's like in your dad just started the change his tune, all of a sudden because he got influenced by the people telling me should work what he says. You know that wouldn't that woman! you untrue to yourself and untrue to your people, and then you

have literally nobody, because the haters I've been except you ever, and the people than wanting what you have to say. You just turn it back on them, so I got to say: True to who I am and was not my intent. When I'm saying things, I know that my intent is never to a offend or or hurt anybody's feelings. My intent is only to make you laugh and if you get it my something I said. Then you ve got your own personal issues, you workin, but I just happen to trigger them and make you realize it the problem for you, and maybe you need to go, see it a psychologist. What I think the reason I get away with offering people I is sais because I tried it Clued myself in the group of people to whom I am offering advice, writer, I'm always thinking of the ways I don't live up to my own expectations and I think that an eye, that's genuine. I don't think it's a front Tom. I think that

you know you make no short jokes about your own ethnic group and you're, always part Euro is the by severe jokes as well as the purse. Whose telling them the audience can tell that right away. It's obvious that you're not telling jokes a position of superiority. It's more like what look guys. You know we're all idiots, guess we are each idiots in our own particular ways. Ethnicity, included- and here is some of the foibles. But you know, let's not forget that its universal truth that we're all fools yeah. I think that's what I mean basically how I approach it because you I hadn't, there's nobody above and there's nobody below were all on the same playing field. You know it people you admire and then there's and then there's people, then whatever to me. It's all literally we're all unexacting plan through my doctor and I talk the king. In Queens and Anne and war.

Later when I talked to the exact same way, I talk to my friends, maybe a little bit more respectful, but I dont fallen over them. So to speak, and I guess Sir, what can I do that migration forget? Listen. Do you know I am. I am so I'm friends with the king Jordan and when him- and I talk insight into guys talk, it's not like Sir. How are you have you been? Have you been pleased? You know it's, none of that. It's just like hey what's going on, but you know it's really had these kinds of the dream to privileged enough to to get to have these. Be Putney situations, and then I see more of a privilege to be able to act normal with them. One of the advantages to being, I would say, artist, although comedians or many forms of artists, but I still think you belong in that category you're sort of outside The traditional hierarchies mean artists are always outside the traditional hierarchies. That gives you a kind of freedom that No one else has it. I mean it means also that you have a very

risky lifestyle, I mean for every can't imagine how many failed comics. There are four every successful one, but it has to be hundreds Perhaps thousands I dont know in that there is more than maybe forty people, fifth, people in North America at any time making a living as as a comic, maybe it's more than that, but it wouldn't be. It wouldn't be lot more yeah. Well, The thing is: there's a lot of comics that never made it better times. Funnier than most of us. They did make it for whatever reason they just never made it there. Something about them. Didn't click, and I don't understand it because there's so guys that are a hundred times larger than myself or any of the top guys it. You ve seen those guys at a brilliant minds, but they ice they might be their own worst. Enemy early may just shun victory, so to speak.

Well, you know it's it's it's similar to inventing a new product. In some sense, not only does the product have to work, but you have to be able to sell it and you have to time the market, and so you have to be the it's for the times and. If you are well, that's not actually you're doing it's some. That's your good fortune, but It can easily not happen to people. I mean there's also there's an endless number of ways not to be successful. Oh yes, but we were those gay, especially the pinnacles of success, you no one and you as our being a comedian. That's had larger crowds than you go now, there's a bunch of em, but I mean I was the first guided. Do? arenas in stadiums on a consistent basis. I can still say that I'm still on One of the only guys who still does arenas in stadiums with being mainstream popular in that I don't have a tv show of irony.

A bunch of movies behind me, I'm not known as an actor a movie star known as a comic Kevin hard. I was out arenas its stated, but he's a big movie stars got over a hundred million followers on Instagram. So I don't. Have a million followers on Instagram and people like mock me and I'm like I, don't care, that's a desperate plea by the way, from a canadian comedian for more Instagram followers. I know people out there who are watching and listening to have some pity and sign out it's free God, damn it. How do you not take something free and then they message me hey. Can you send me a video thing? I do my dad it's his birthday anywhere Yonah click gonna break out even following makes you can't do something free legal costs. You can meet me and follow me. I think it's perfect. Reasonable of you to charge the mission price of an instagram following for a purse, lies video

the least among cameo to certain dinner us all how old were you when you were still unknown like when? Did you make that transition from unknown? To known so I started when I was nineteen. And I started to gain a little bit of attraction and around ninety five. Ninety six the Toronto area. You know I started doing. Black comedy shows Kenny. Robinson started. The a newbie in disciples of prior all black comedy Sundays, at data collection, was once a month having grown up with from by the age of forty Ninety eight percent of my friends were black because I dealt with a lot of racism in the seventies from the white kids and it wasn't it space to decide and hang out of them. I was I well. I saw them with pain summer.

Hang out with them, they were, and it was very people like all recent would do more. Gonna go. It was very ugly. It was a very I know. Somebody was a racism. I know what it look like it sounds like it hasn't town and it has a and has a certain bite to witness of venom attached to it when people thing, so I can tell when somebody's jokingly, saying something or if there's a little bit of something in that. You know and the black Unity? Never ever did that to me. There was a couple of times a couple of guys, but they were just Dixon General also, but for the most part, the guy's, a group and with were black so when the black comedy show started at ninety five. I was like this is my this is my audience like. These are my people and when I went out a lot of didn't, know me, and then I started talking about things they were like. Oh my god, this is our guy. So I got really lucky with that and Kenny Robinson start that twenty six years ago we were supposed to have a 25th anniversary show last year, but obviously I don't think I just heard there was Covid ten going around

Oh yeah, this epidemic yeah I've heard note that it may not reach Canada wouldn't that be funny if Canada was so slow, it just got there in two years, like how should I know we're doing Diana many phenomena year, but I would like to know what's going on fashion out there? Are you guys Alberta right now no we're in Toronto gather and really tell me: did you get that couch? He kill. I bought it off a facebook, get place. I'm a very elderly lady was selling at it. It had been living in her garage for a very long time. You know what I thought you were going to say. A very elderly lady died on that couch, Well, we don't know exactly what has happened on this couch. It's so Rachel, like I'm fascinated by too much with elegant like sixty something couch it's gotta be, The earlier we are at the core

were solid. Just toxic waste, to get a real place, but their nicer now, yes, she's inordinately proud of this piece of thirty or so. I would like to note unhelpfully proud of this campaign. I mean, I noticed the coffee table in front of you: has a gold trim around it as well? That's also in June, with the couch, though, thou see what you do in their Mikhail, yet She's gone for this russian gangster early disco, crazy cat, lady aesthetic, and you should see the couch in or living room from the night tat I haven't eaten. It looks like it like it was owned by a Greek, go star with excess chest, hair and assured open down here, and you know gold gold. Neck places dangling all the places don't want them to be dangle area, were you dangle Ets It was apparently untouched in initial room for reasons that you'd unjust,

and if you saw it for like forty years well, I think this is a good time to tell you. Your daughter told me she's changing her name is Svetlana to match her decor. Doesn't change my last name to Kova by yeah and my last names core off. I just haven't taken it he's over the odds, strange because I named her after Mikhail Gorbachev and I had this house full of russian realistic art and I've been obsessed with us tarianism, especially if the communist type and my daughter married Russian and my daughter my granddaughters first languages, russian colleagues I dont know how the hell any of that happened. Lenin as a painting fell on me. When I was a kid when I was sleeping wham ask us what happened. Just for the people. Listening that John Lennon either no not yet those paintings or in storage. Now my wife got sick and

of living inside. whatever it was. We were living inside strange soviet museum. I guess, and now we have light instead darkness in the house. I was engaged to a girl who was on the grub in the Soviet Union and then she move to America and like ninety Schumann, America in ninety two during the riots through the water and her mom didn't know anything about anything and there The school I was a magnet school and she didn't, just I've always good for medical if you wanna dies, but without was geared towards medical biomedical field, and she centre there, but it was in Compton ensuring the Rockets man. Yes, you have to know your geography if you're going to go, go go to demand city yes yeah, but it was pretty funny because she was like. I didn't even know, this too limited came from Georgia. I didn't notice

So ok, so you you started to get popular in the mid nineties, you said, and when did you make the transition so locally? I would become famous of becoming the locally in Toronto, and so people No, I was just animal strictly, mostly in the black community. At that time and and then I start getting interest from indian people because they kind of home at the beginning. They didn't they mean everyone, I'm the first guy, so they're gonna be very lay. There was a lunch position, in other words, that IRAN begin and there they were. They were hesitant. Except, I think, it's trepidation, what we're gonna whatever has its own. Oh, that's when you get a whole hacked in UNESCO you're happy days, it's trepidation, okay! So we're hesitant so They started like edging towards me like. Let's have him host this indian culture show, and I would do it then they would offended, because I wasn't I wasn't.

Did the other indian kids, I wasn't the guy who's gonna be like Hulu. Who knows that? I didn't drop like that. So don't expect me to The sudden know what you're, what what what your customs are in India are not the same as well. I found this customs weren't, India, so India being such a big country with so many different types of people. There is not one uniform thing, so there there started to this I would either kill or bomb. There was no no ground for it and then I started touring around. I started going to England a lot from England is, I started seeing the world I on to England and ninety five and from England you would get Maybe like hey rustling one go to Northern Ireland is really gonna like hell. Yes, I'll go Belfast and dairy, and this is the time when the iron They were bombing garbage cans in London and stuff. They were still very much big with what they were doing

and then you would get gigs to be like hey. Do you want to go to Belgium? Do you want to go to Denmark and I was like yeah yeah yeah started going around the world, and I started really dig in it and that's when I opening my eyes to so many different ways. That's why I think very early in my career I was to so many different countries, so it wasn't like being in Toronto and meeting different cultures. I was going to these places in seeing its first hand. So. Laid nineties, you started to get mass audiences, no, I started gaining audience popularity when they would start coming out specifically. For me a clubs say: Two thousand and four after my two thousand three special had aired and funny because uh, where I was was working is how scummy this business is

and this is no slight against them. I gather you're running a business, but come on don't make me feel like I'm getting something when I'm not, they were like pay scale for a headliner was one hundred one fifty or two hundred a show, so there was a double. You're, Tripoli, I was a aaa comes. Was getting two hundred dollars a show and they had booked saga yoke and the call near the opposite Russell years. We're gonna do some very that we never done before. Every year, two hundred dollars a show because you selling so well we're gonna, give you an extra dollar per paid customer. And I said: well, that's really go. There are like, as I go over there spent ass to ensure gray and the ticket price, seventeen dollars. Well, I get to the club didn't he raised twenty dollars, they got sick,

yeah. Well, then, you were rolling in money. At that point I was in the, though I think I've thought about a grand for the weekend, which at the time was a lot of money. Now nobody spoke This much out of you. When did you start? Okay, two questions. One. When did you start getting recognised randomly on the street and was that transition difficult from Nobbing recognised because I'm sure after your special I think I watched your special. I think everybody I knew watched her special, so it must have been a transition from being recognised. Everywhere from not being recognised, will see. The thing is I was always like out and about him and the south popular, but I would go out alive and I would was also dj at the time back then so I will, if I wasn't doing comedy, I was teaching at a club or something so I always knew like the club scene and that's really the only place you can really become popular social media back then so you there you were inside of you outside, so I knew them.

Bouncers the owners and I didn't drink at the time, so they never ever to worry about me coming in. Getting drunk getting starting problems. I was, I was a sober guy, though I was about thirty one and So I always knew how to get in the clubs free, so it kind of fun like I was the popular Edward maybe a line. I welcome the gay Rosa commodities with the enemy and it was kind of ours. Cool feeling. So people saw and then would talk to you in the club, a man. So you talking about you about it with you and you become friends all these different people, so when it started happening timber just started happening to me. More and more frequently is what happened. So Really came out of nowhere just built and it's almost, namely those guys who loves people. So when people come and talk to me, my. Security guys always get annoyed, because I stand and talk to a person. I don't I don't know. Thank you so much moving I'm like hey. What do you do? What's your name, I genuinely want to know about the person, if you're being nice enough to come and say hi to me, the least I could do is be nice enough to have a conversation. Yeah,

lead, so it such an unbelievable stroke of good fortune to have perfect strangers, like you yeah. That's what I say, though, It could be a lot worse. Yeah, I'm not the guy. You want to come up with an attitude with because I'm like oh we're, going to have a problem here pal and so If you go out now just for a random, stroll down the street likely. Are you to be recognised in California well, wait most different places in LOS Angeles celebrities everywhere, all the time. So now it becomes who's bigger celebrity in the room that point and I got when I see celebs, sometimes a holy shit? That's better were here, in Montreal. I was in Montreal in this Bob. Eighty six. I guess something like that when I just started graduate school, so I just don't from Northern Albert and albert- and I was right

Across share book street, just south of Mcgill University and Pierre Trudeau, walked across the crosswalk, good. We were the only to people on the street and I went. We shift its Trudeau was still prime minister, then No, no! He was he wasn't at that point, but I would say no, I know the star struck feeling and that just erupted out of me in a fit of stupidity and I've always been you know, mortified. As a consequence of ten I've. I've done. I've said the dumbest things the people First thing is: when you get in this business- and you have nobody- literally literally the first guy in in time, your family bloodline to have ever and jumped in this business and The first ending did you, you got all, things in your head and you don't we stand how this industry works. If you never been around it, so I at other people and how they navigate. Well, that's because that guy's dad was blah blah blah, not

Remove nice and I stop instance. Look at everything goes, I'm still done by the situations I mean member years ago has been twenty five years. Montreal just for last. Somebody said: hey, that's the girl that books, David Letterman and she was a very unattractive woman. Let me just say that a very unusual the woman like anyway. So they said you should go be nice to her. So you know, maybe she puts you on Letterman and I'm like okay and I'm only some amendments has been the business seven years. I'm you have no business talking to people have you been in business than ten years? You have no business doing anything that should involve that. As far as I'm concerned, where does midnight party and everyone's dancing there's a free buffet and everything, and I he heard them for Hake and I haven't we but then I I know

who she is but I'm to play like. I doubt know why I thought this would be funny or clever or witty. It was none, the above. I just went well must be important. She was. Why do you say that is a cause? All pretty girls are out there acting like idiots, so did you get booked on Letterman never, or did you get macaroni dumped down your shirt? She goes what and I go that's what I get them The fact that, I'm stuck my foot mama many times while you'd have if you're a comedian yeah I mean that's, I think part of the process yeah. You're not going to find out what's funny until you know a bunch of things that aren't funny and you shut up a lot. I tell people that you're not going to appreciate success, and so you had failure

And how do you are you good it coping with failure like I've been fortunate because I haven't bombed in front of a large audience, and that might be because people are willing to give me more credit than I deserve, because there, they're already viewers of mine and so on, but I like I don't I don't know if I could have that I'm not resilient in that way, and I think you said that when you were first starting that new bombed in in men places in unison with comedy you're, never above bombing, it doesn't matter who you are Chapelle. Can we have a bit tonight. I mean anybody, that's the back. I think that's what keeps us interested and our job is that what's tonight going you like, we didn't know you gonna kill it ago. We don't know that yeah I want to kill it. I dont know that it will happen it's up to you want it's. What, if I get sort of resistance from them last night, there was some guy drawn can yelling out and animals irritated by then. You know, I think, the holder,

get the more short temperate I'm getting with wood. Stupidity. Only shut the fuck up. Do Ok, what's up up up up up up up up last night and ass, I have said enough, and so you know that through the Bible shall write off because you I got over the funny the anger. What's this guy's, you know right right, it well idea I have an affinity for comedians. I think, partly because I hung around with a group of people when I lived in northern Alberta and all we ever did was try to make each other laugh and the current. Of our social group was laughter if you could tell a good jokers, say something funny than you scored point in, and it was great, I loved it, and maybe it was part of that sure to more working class culture. But what what I did my lecture to her, I think, was very similar to what stand up.

Meetings do I even attempted now and to be funny, which I can be now and then, but I also have that sent of performing without a safety net. You know it never obvious, I think to the audience, and it certainly was not obvious to me whether or not I was going to have a successful talk, because I didn't know beforehand right and I think that something so fund about, or so it so dramatically exciting about life shows, like comedy shows is there is the ever learn Threat of desire and for the comedian it's like, while you're not funny, and so then you're up there trying to be funny and you're not funny, and it's painful for the audience, and it's painful for you and everyone knows that can happen and part of the the thrill is, is to be part of that and watch watch the and shall train wreck unfold, and Everyone so happy if you are funny.

Yeah I mean there's a lot of others. Lot of variables do with calm me. I'm Ambrose doing this, Show my fifteen forty fifty years then I d C and her bonnet they from you to Michael Mcdonald was gonna before and I'm sitting at Michael Mcdonald's table with them and pattern. Lacks, is there and Ashley Judd and it was like this aids. Awareness benefit dinner thing and I was to perform and for some reason show started that ain't. The some reason they decide. They wanted to put me on first, but people are still coming and people are talking to which nobody wants to hear comedian. First and so I am up they're doing my ad and is nobody's paying attention. Nobody, like literally nobody and I could feel my heart beating fast, like mother, I'm getting so soon wedding. Gettings, I'm really stressing out, because there is obvious celebrities in this room- and I'm like this- is my chance

stir. You know, make a splash here and nobody's paying attention and not a flop, sweat splash earlier. If I go to my, did, make a splash of airports and so I got so Mahathir might go well, you guys have been horrible. I hope you ll get AIDS goodnight. Did you get any attention for that? Nothing! Nobody, off the standards right out the building and into my hotel room or blackmail down we're gonna wanna be ha so you see you seem like somebody, I'm really interesting personality, probably because I grew up with my dad dad, but I've always wondered with comedians I hadn't. Favorite ones when it when I was younger, I, like you, were up there bill Burr George Carlin Carlin, my favorite. He was so funny

but I've always wondered what kind of personality these people have incurred. Men and you come off as very disagreeable, but also volatile, which I can also identify with. But dad asked a bit about recovery like how do you get over having a bad show, because, as mean you need to be fairly resilient. So does it just not phase you yeah, you don't drink. That could call me have that going for now, but I do now, but I just in until I was thirty one, that's really that's really delay. I I just never occurred to me literally. It never occurred to me. I this I was John, genuinely a happy person, so I I my feet. Was I Wasn'T- I didn't know what I was repressing. I didn't know the pressing anger sadness, but now the first ever got drunk that I just couldn't

laughing I go. Am I repressing happiness? What the with me, sir, I get drunk. I just laugh and make jokes. I realize no, I'm a happy guy. This is great. This lets it out. First, oh, that's good, so you're, happy temperamentally and your shadow is also happy yeah, which is a great place to be. That's for sure that so fortunate dealer debt that doesn't seem to me to be something. That's particularly true of comics in general, though, Some guys get dark and you're like okay. I don't think this guy should drink. This is not the guy to be drinking with you want to get drunk with I said you're gonna, laugh and joke with you and I and break your balls cassettes. Comics too, we have really dark dark sense of humour, very dark. Consumer like, like you, give us only a mass shooting and our action is the same as anyone Else'S- oh my god, but then literally right after oh my god. Oh my god, I thought something yeah well, that's our brains. Well, how else are you going to deal with those horrible things?

I mean you can tell us had a dramatic occurrence in your past when you ve got over it when you can make a joke. Like I listen to my daughter, talk sometimes about her health, trouble when she was a teenager and like she can use black humour to to make People that she's talking with laugh about it and It's a sign that it it's been dealt with and thank God, we ve got humour to deal with catastrophe, because what the hell else are we going to use, to rise above it then- and I think that's the problem. This whole cancel culture thing is that they don't give you the opportunity to look at it the right way. They want you, it's a very interesting place when, because people screaming tolerance and tolerance, and you need to accept. Listen. You need to accept that. But at the same time, really preaching tolerance. Then they to accept that these people are gonna need time to accept your your wishes. Do you gonna have

there's not them in exchange here it can, But you say you do this and you and that the that's the way it is. We go. Okay, Ok, what no that's, not tolerance, woman, a real shame if we started. If we continued destroyed the people we have that are talented just because they make a mistake, a special committee, and because there are going, make a mistake there: how can you not go too far if you're always trying to get you know, because if you, if you're gonna, say something funny, you have to be one mill major away from being offensive and the closer you can get to that, the funnier you are, and everyone knows it, because they know that their you are out on a limb taking a risk. You knew you want oh my god. I can't believe that he just said that and you laugh and you think. Oh, it's so good that he just said that, because it means it's acceptable and you're going to go too far. Sometimes you know it's funny.

For me, as I am performing here in these red states now and I'm not a political guide. All what's I dont understand politics I don't understand either side, but I will do this. Donald Trump, and it has nothing, do politics soon. As I said on one thousand years, and I said reason? I don't trust Donald Trump, these three girls for when they were set up anyone here when I was gonna say cars, not denying that demonstration of why you didn't trust him I don't trust him because he does this when he talks. I dont people do this, because the only time you see that in real life is when something is wrong again mainly by their money army. So it's it's upwards it's negative negative. It I'm not going finish the joke, but you got the idea. It was good, it was going, but they didn't wake For that part, that's the thing. So a lot of people just jump

these conclusions because they can't seem to think than anybody else thinks differently than they do so We were breathing a whole generation of Narcissus. It's not just. I swear, though from the younger generation. I don't think it's just us now it certainly worse it. My level- and I think gets worse. The younger you get right, you peeking maybe twenty or twenty one, but but People's opinions that are older have also changed is not like everybody's whose older is immune Thus, there are a lot of people who are older than are perpetuating it absolutely it's a double edged sword, but wee wee. We got to live so much longer without that an ad into that? Whereas these kids are growing up with it, so it starts much younger like it it to music? You know I mean and what for

blind eye was big hip hop, had growing up and produce nearby. Manner ease and am very involved in the hip hop world, but I was part of it because it was this brand new thing. When I was a kid it had just started and it was like you had to discover it yet, find it. It just wasn't readily available and I think that something, with the same at the pump rock scene and and the new wave seen everything was so knew when I was a kid that we were all a figure it out and grow with it I always say that hip hop gave you my attitude in my and my way engaging in the world. The reason I am being I am today an EU that these kids grow up and hip hop is just there So it's not some ever discovered him just there and that's why I got watered down to what it is now and it's the same thing with the social media you gonna. Have you know you got girls, one is now that are selling their pictures on only fans for five bucks a month naked.

Pictures of themselves and then it gets trickle down to like kids in their early teens. Now that you're gonna be skinning themselves out on Instagram and that's the way Parents seem to step into Gar. That's not the kid! I'm raising! spoken like a true old man, You did a good job of your daughter, my maiden, to do a good job with my dog yeah it's nice did. Yes. Thank you. That's the right answer to that you don't know me very well. You know I mean I could see the darkness in your eyes, but it's not in its more these through you That's why you can marry a russian guy because they don't care, I will what do you have, and I will double down on you watch today. I can,

haven't seen this, but you have this russian scant about about a cocktail hour which which we we enjoyed, but you ve and it's to mimic the stern european laugh as like housing laughing in russian think so you kno what I was. You know how I wrote that joke and when I was engaged to that girl from the USSR. She we're laying in bed. She was talking to mom on the phone and then- and she not when I looked at her and I got a big deal with new what these issues moody doing ago. Speaking, should you walking backwards and I go by a merit is that's a joke right there and I wrote the job that yet speaking back I saw you must have spent a fair bit of time, thinking about or perhaps perhaps not, maybe you just make people laugh but laughter of being always been a real, mystery to me. You know up. If you watch little tiny, kids, even eight months or nine months old. They already have a sense of humor, yes, those inaction,

the motions, crying and laughter those really only to genuine emotions here and there isn't something that's all Lastly, similar to that among animals, and yet it appears really really early among human beings and am but it's really forgot to get a handle on like it. The best I've been able to do is that we laugh when, when where we have the the Fortunately, this sort of spontaneously transcend our own limitations, Renault as adults. Well, maybe even maybe even children see that is, is when someone down and then gets up and they're okay, they laugh I listen people falling down is my favorite. It's a never ending source of humor is my have my memory. I can still remember to this day being sick years old and walking home from school. My brother always have to cross the creek, and the creek was like and so you would run down the creek and run up you just use your momentum ago am I was

since every six, so my brothers, when big ship crackers, member those seven examining the big heels in the big platform. Oh yeah, I was five foot two. I had six inch platform shoes so much our regular and fell off of the absolutely. But you were five foot by then the ESA that that was, there was a big difference. I used to have to on three phone books to drive my car at all. You know five, too, so why cigar with early it was really quite sacks. Taiyo, I'm sick story, I'm six to now. Do you know what I always Peggy was about? Five, eight hey No that's how devastating yours! That's all! no you and you read his tall Mikhail. As am I thank you. He's gonna varied daughter for ashore guys? You ought to know your six two did obviously see my inner shortness

Your short as a breath reminds me of a psychiatric syndrome that I coined once short fucker syndrome short, got. It Why rate? That is a great term. Yeah, I'm fighting to have that included in the diagnostic manuals you should engage. Napoleon Syndrome Jane. I have residual short fucker syndrome from being tiny. When I was a teenager, I small is kid too I was. I was very little in nineteen one night by great nine by the end of the great, not aid grown a little bit, but at the starting great Nanos fourfold eleven at seventy five pounds till we are that's that debts familiar territory. I would say that I had a huge sport by great Dan and I was somewhere on five seven. You know five cents. I mean embody by great drivers, I'm five eleven now MIKE what happened, but it all down in the end, so why do you People laugh. What are you? What is it? What is it we find funny and and and why do we do it

do. I dont know why people laugh, but I know that people need to laugh. It's something you really need to do for yourself, and you know you for me, the challenge when I get on stages will I'll look for the one person is not laughing and I won't target them. Erectly, but I'll be watching when the corner of my eye and I'll see what kind of moves their body a little bit and then I'll go down that road. Until I see them and then I'm like okay, my job is, and good idea, that's interesting, because when I'm talking to an audience, I never talk to the audience, always pick one person now, no big. I don't pick this person for the whole talk, because that tends to make people very uncomfortable, but I'm always talking to an identifiable per whom I'm looking out and because then conceive reflected in that person, the degree to which my My words are working and I do watched as you just pointed out. I watched the way the person moves and I watched the way their iser are are turning, and I listened to the

audience as well, because what you especially if you ve got a grip on the audiences further not to be rustling in sounds you wanted be quiet, everyone? You know everyone's focused any view see their eyes, DART limited their eyes, dart something's going on, but what's going on here, your eyes aren't looking at me right now. What do you think about it. I guess when some interesting him upon the bathroom because I'll be taught them and then asked noticed, the MIKE I'll even say that you got to go the bathroom yeah, but I'm scared you're going to make fun of me and I'm like no go in the bathroom sorry you're, not a hostage actual people appreciate that, yeah. I especially do when women have to go the bathroom, because we do want you make fun of me. I got a fun if we go to the bathroom with the guy It's a lot easier because I don't care about them women. You gotta, we gotta be a little bit more, a bit more sense, even a little bit more understanding. So we,

You have a show your paying attention to the audience, I'm making assumptions, but you have a body of of material. Sort of at hand. Now, do you have a complete prepared show, or do you because you said you're attention to the audience members, how do you? How do you? How do you do what you do? What's your method I can. I know what I'm opening with an item. Closing was ok, What's gonna go in the middle, you gotta fill it an opening is about five minutes. Closing is about five minutes, and the middle is about five minutes. Got another forty five minutes to make up for him there and in just come while I'm talking to you because Talk to you and I'll, ask a question: it will trigger something else which will lead me something else. I have this funny enough. I have this kid. For me this this weekend. His arm he was in the audience in tamper two weeks ago, he's a big boss.

Build a huge, a massive human, and I walked Einstein As soon as I saw my God, what the fuck is that I said when they said that wall they meant an actual, not you and I was making fun. Making fun of them and. I said what are you doing? It was, I am Bobby Builder No, I said I am comedian and I go oh great, this guy's being a jerk right. And he had an accident where you from Switzerland- and I was like that- you don't look swiss- Skin is a little too, not swiss anyway my parents are from Turkey and I guess I started getting in it. No you're, not you're the Alps. In making fun of all about the size and the night I asked again a little later, so what we really would. He do really was com and I'm like, I could see it in the space he wasn't lying. So is it all right on the next? I'm putting you want for five minutes cuts of an actual To my mind, this is details. What,

So I said, a man was relegated. Somebody in Atlanta you wanna, come down. You can do some time on my shoulders flew down and easier doing chances we get purpose of telling you? That was what he is, What I think of reason is: has an axe and a genuine natural accent, this giant We build a guy sonys talking about a man. Again in talking about how fat they are. Instead, it doesn't come across as offensive becomes across acrostic. Look at it, they hear it and they go because he's like well people ask me: how did you big was? I put the cheeseburger down Bro he's just really being frank but its lead. To watch because he doesn't. He know these being funny, but I don't think you understand why it's one well that you you touched on something else- it's really interesting to because cock comedians are off funniest when they're telling the truth. Yes right, end what comedian seem to do is to they speak. The things

The audience is thinking but won't, say or aren't willing to say where end and that's why I suppose the registers in the kings court, because the gesture was a fool, and so he was beneath contempt, but that meant that he could. He could actually tell the truth right. Comedians are always doing that, and so I think that's actually a bell whether for the health of a society is inefficient I can tolerate comedians that it still in pretty good shape, yeah, they turn on us. I'm I gotta know what's happening We really I can feel what would he turning on us for turn on people lines. You don't go the people telling you the truth and like they say the truth is poetry and everybody hates poetry. Do you do you feel that men. Do you think our society has in fact changed so that its museum, There are comedians who won't play on university campuses any more. I know I rolled you. Will I won't have you won't I with them, and then you can call me anymore some pretty grateful for that,

New York. I don't need that. I dont need to be policed by somebody who doesn't really understand the world. Ok, so you have seen that change I mean I never had to deal with it. On a first hand basis. I have a lot of friends have dealt with that and I even told my agent won't even entertain a university request. No, no thank you That's so sad, how are those people gonna be funny? Oh they're, going to be funny, they'll be funny elsewhere, yeah, but there's be purposefully funny, not accidentally funny or the comic, so the people, the people who are being exposed to the comedians. Well, I mean in there he looked at the way we look at it is it's a free world we're living in? So if you want to go to come and go to the club or go to a cancer or something, but when I got it to you to your house. If you're, not really you gonna tell us how to do it.

Are you as enthralled by the business, as you always have been disenchanted with aspects of it. You know cause think I'm a very genuine person and I'm alive, you know I'd. I try to be as well as I possibly can and If I say I'm your friend, I'm your friend, whether you, were you down. It is a matter to me and I tend to become friends with people. After their shine is gone. So that way, doesn't look like I was there for the ride. I wanted to be like you know, like a lot of my friends, are old wrappers that I used to have most of my wall as a kid in other there? living, that great they don't have a lot of money, but these are as I admired very much and we hang out all the time we have a great time. Seemingly so, I think of my friends. But I see how is industry. As you know, people are Africa. A better term dick writers and die

see them all padding you they all. We all follow each other, but I see their page and I see who's commenting on who and who's liking, and I look on my page. None of these guys I go, but if something popped off more with, like I became the hot guy. In the media was a rustle Peters we want those people be messaging me, and I, like I see you already said, don't let it happen to you. I am so I don't ever want to be like those people, so I asked there's no friends in this business. I suppose, one of its we share in some sense, but I suppose that one of the dangers of becoming well known is that it isn't always. Obvious why people are associating with you right now When I have a you know, situation in my personal life that there is a result of that. So we and the reason I have a son new, repeating backup your wallet I got duped. Well, it's also not easy, for you know,

she become well known. It's it's not that surprising that people are affected by everything that comes in the aftermath of that It really is for, welcoming and and and compelling and soul. It's not like it's easy for an external observer to separate year, fame from you right it's better, if you know you familiar with that world, you know that no wait, wait you went through to get to where you are, they don't know what you're upbringing, was they don't know what kind of household he grew up it? I think, especially in a man. Because the asked me the indian Community in America, is our highest? It is this wealthiest a minority group in the country And so they all grub upper middle class to wealthy in America. Its like in Canada where we have poor any people, and then you know me

we have different levels of us over there, and so I think they automatically associated with those ones over here and all he had a problem. Life, I'm like no, my mom working Kmart, my dad was a chicken meat was a meat inspectors. We did not for privileged life. You know to us, an exciting the big move. Was was in nineteen. Eighty six, my dad by cut Cutlass Sierra used from her and it air conditioning and we're like YO. We finally got air condition him a car. We didn't have it in the house, but we had it in the car and my dad wouldn't turn it on, because it would waste too much gas special day room. It's embarrassing! One It's way easier to look at somebody that perhaps it Alice, often and assume that the reason they got there is out of luck rather than hard work, because that means you dont have to put it any hard work as you couldn't get there anyway run they Miguel they try to were in trouble

marginalize what it is you have accomplished, woman. There is luck associated with two, as we are absolutely described. As you know, you you're in the right place at the right time and you could have been talented in at the wrong time. It happens all the time to people so that's it you're going to get along think so. Equal it much easier to hate on somebody that it is too short the respect and love they can save. They rightfully deserve and your fans sounds like you're treated, very well by your fans, they're, always great to me. Their so oil gas and I During the same thing, I'm so grateful to form to my viewers and listeners and reader they're, so they ve been so good. I can't believe it it just it just me and I'm I'm hoping constantly that I don't do anything to? That would be disappointing. So, with a mere like me,

As you know, you don't you want to walk the tightrope, but you don't wanna discipline. I get it a hundred percent. What you saying it's getting. There is one thing and then maintaining it as a whole. Another animal! Yes, what especially when all of us are deeply flawed. Mankind I know, but alas, yeah well yeah, so I heard about a project that you're doing. I don't know whether or not this is true. What are you doing something with the comedian just rain? just rain wrote a tv series, it gave us a script and then my brother and I executive producing it. Ok, do you see we see one of em, so you you haven't how to sit com. You haven't been in movies. Why not I've been in movies- just need a little small scenes here and there and that's fine. My initially got into this, because I wanted to be an actor and then I realized I have. I reckon stand, Stanhope a lot more,

you get into a movie situation and you gotta do these twelve to fourteen our days, which I'm not a factor and out of those Fourteen our days, you maybe only working for. But there are, you are waiting around board the death sitting in this wardrobe that, in your mindless near Youtube period, its dizzying, we boring and the financial reward isn't the same so it for me, it's like a god. The sacks I can't wait to get out of here and go be free again. You feel like a bright a prisoner when I'm on a movie said well I am doing doing a movie acting in. These very much different than doing stand up comedy having heat scenes too. I can't imagine, having I just get frustrated having to repeat scenes over. In over over overload everything's recorded out of sync, so it's it's not like acting in the play either the ads They may still know that the middle of the movie and start shooting at them

and then surely beginning at the end and the end of the beginning. You never know lakes with depends on here's. What were shooting all these things are gonna take place here. We're gonna shoot them on of course, the other I keep continually going back to the field that they were shooting and also wardrobe change this, look that work everything in. Men there. So many people first idea once again said in fifteen minutes and I'm always arguing with them. Briefly. Because there are you gonna, be ready for me in fifteen minutes major standing, but I dont need to stand by the voters it. I'm eating thing to watch. I worked as a grips assistant on a movie shoot in L, a about two weeks weirdly enough wooden and it was fascinating. I had no idea how movies were made, but it's it's it's. It requires very certain type of skill, and it doesn't seem to me that there's much overlap between them, and being a stand up comedian, especially one hoo, who

spontaneous like and, as you describe your own, your own comedy you have. This massive store of material that you can draw on It seems to me it seems to me, like jazz improvisation. Yet much the same. As you know like with the heroin without the heroin real, sometimes well. That's how I do and I like to use this. You know He would see where we go. Now: did you not also captures the audience? Can you take them along for the ride that way right, so that that's also something that's musical, because when I'm lecturing to an audience, I'm always paying attention to them, and I think I know where I'm going to start- and I have like eight points in mind that are like the skeleton of the lecture you know, and so I can always return to them. But then I'll go out on tangents and many people don't like that stuff speaking, but if I'm in decent shape, I can go out,

attended and come back to the main story, but I can do in concert with the audience and then there and they are entitled involved in the entire process, and that's what makes the lecture come alive. I mean that. That's that's! The beauty of it, that's also the part that keeps us as the person speaking interested, because otherwise it just become some sort of performance are it's just boring you now I dont want it. I did this recital at that point and I dont want of right and I feel like I'm reciting this night by night. I want if feel like? You had an individual experience with me this night, but I guess I say again the night: you were too just blah blah blah Nagoya. That night. I remember that in their name, also talking to people spawns new ideas. You know, like you said you got on attended because he got triggered and it ended and it made me think of a whole new way of looking at the situation gets very it's it's great privilege to be able to do that.

And to have the audience there too too, to help it long yeah. It's likely. I think it gives us all interested in it. Am, but sometimes you know, I got a new standards and they end up in a funny place and I might go well. We tried guys and then I'll go into something. I know what's gonna work, but you know sometimes doesn't go the way we want to so what's. Industry future for you, I don't know, that's get for asking cliched question who knows what's in the future? What do you want to be in the future, for you like? What are you hoping for just listened after after the asked you we ve had I just want what was normal again to be I don't like watching movies in saying I gotta when audience or like again, I'm like member that I dont want that to become a memory. I want that to go back to reality, no Kidding AIDS, all those things we took for granted

yeah literally and insist, you know, I think it's their way of bringing us back in there and air meaning is back in our guys here. Here will then take these things away from the member states. Well I'm running away willing to take a little we now, but they still wanted it. These things away from us. I don't understand the purpose of whatever. Whatever moves he will be. I suppose, if that's the plan, I think backfire, I mean after the spanish flu, didn't they have the roaring twenties We're mimicking that everybody's going to go like I am anyway going to go insane after this lockdown being an extroverted person. Like I think a bow man nightlife serve. This is trying to keep us under control. I don't think that's a good way to do. We we hope, because by I mean I M, doesn't have land is wide open. I've been going to the cigar lounge every night after the shows, my god I had yet well it's it's. Why distressing to walk down Queen Street in Toronto. Right now, tat. You know Queen Street, for

body who doesn't know is the it's kind of cool commercial district of Toronto, theres many of them, but its perhaps the main one and you walk down. Queen Street and every fourth or fifth store is boarded up and you think of all these people who poured their lives into these beautiful little boutiques and restaurants and and they're all well freeing dreadfully away, and it was so good that we add them, and now god I hope they come back. I can see how people are making it through all of this being shut down for so long people aren't, you might say, the majority of them are not making it through this and and I lay especially the same thing. You drive down winter boulevard I would say one every three shops his clothes like done? yeah well in those little businesses they take. They take a lot of work to open and a lot of work to maintain and a lot of capital and its it everybody on every level. It's not like

the landlords are taken a beating because the people renting their space can pay the rent, and then they have to. I don't understand, Airbus is forcing them out runway forcing them out, I mean you're going to get any more money from sums up what you're just gonna. So it is a lot of does a lot of panic happening, and I don't like to see that kind of uncontrolled panic in the world a bothers me While we are in a situation where pretty much every decision, people make is a bad one and its, arbitrary so people evasion Do this issue that what are doing it here and doing it there and you know you you're not socially distancing lemon a place where they don't do that. He has to do with you. Which laws do. I follow right now. Do I follow where I'm at or do I follow where I'm from or where I'm going? I don't understand yeah. Hopefully, then soon we were, we were in Belgrade and it was completely open. It was absurd.

We were, there was completely open. People wear their masks under their chan or honour, honour arm. You're right does just Belgrade, and then We got back here and it was like right now, we're completely lockdown It's pretty is pretty depressing, but it's weird too go some places in the world and be open and then go to other places and be completely shut down its very situation, I would end soon yeah. My mom is in LA right right now. I gotta the shot already so she's gonna her second China. They get a couple of weeks, but then one of my friends, We ve been trodden was ok. You know your mom was answered after all according to the hotel, and am I right it was my result can go to her house without an older in that regard and my, but she lives by herself and house. The anchovy rounders. You should be able to go to the house and to the others. Saying she's been Emily, Yes, I mean, is there no lacking? Sorry, member for things even worse,

tested you get tested to get on the plane, so you have to test negative. That I don't mind I mean I can get that. I understand that to a certain degree, but even if you test negative and have the vaccine, you have to quarantine for three days to get your test results in Canada in our love, leave your room. They give you a bird like the sandwich and water there's pictures on line of this room. It's eat. It brought there by the police and the halls are monitored by guards, and then you go home for the rest of your fourteen day. Quarantine quarantine, even though you have a negative cast an or possibly that needed you. I can't let my eight year old mother be treated like that american or Apple. I'm, just gonna keep run. Allay their sanity comes back No other politicians can't keep up with them, continually changing circumstances so it's very sad, so you're on a tour. You have these three states. You can go to these three states. I can go,

now. I see other dates coming up in more in March, Utah Indiana something in their Pennsylvania's which states open slowly, but surely and I'm only taking the word because I'm going sitting at home, I'm alright the downsize alive? You know why I block I gotta lotta people. My payroll, At the same time, I saw my house and moved to smaller house, and that's not a woe. Is me situation as an ally guy, I'm a move from you know from one house. The gathering on. I move from twelve thousand feet. Where every day thousand square feet. Oh, what do you do? You're gonna hit? so Malaga and suffering, but it does hurt on an on a certain level. I worked so hard to get to that and then have to move backwards, but whatever it is, what it is necessary to figure out was necessary was what was not necessary. I got rid of three or four, cars I didn't need that many cars and I realize now why difficult wasting my money and all these cars I saw them

watches, I was like eyes get rid of things. I've just like these are things it don't matter, and I realize now what matters gate at the one house. I got two cars, I'm gonna go. He has enough We need zero watches because I suspect you probably have a phone number I like one yeah, I like watches to I have one. So what do you mean? today the urine I'm wearing an omega so see your practical guy, but it'll make it asked me. I was asked to be a spokesperson for omega watches. Well, that's not a bad deal at all me and Daniel Craig about a year and a half ago, and I was sorely tempted to do it because it was so rich carelessly cool. In my estimation, that has to be a spokesperson along with Daniel Craig. It's ridiculous, so ridiculous that I really wanted to do it and you didn't do it. No, I didn't know what products

you're born Jordan born. Yes, yes, I know, I know the bees for capital. You asked at the beginning of the show. Yes, it was one more surreal invitations that I've had yet been a good deal when asked, to promote nuthin, none. One thing I have been asked to promote you. How do you understand Give it to me to promote know how many shows you have coming up. I got to to tomorrow and which actually, I got to start getting ready for you. Yes, wait a minute. We should let you go we're very happy that you agreed to do this talk, especially I gotta tell you. I was really honored to be asked to do your podcast. I told you my question in Euro Instagram, I didn't I got so many Peter When did you know that I watch all of your dad's videos on Youtube, I'm to find.

That in screenshot it and said it was my saviour. Does my screen saver. While I'm gone, pleased as well that you not ah you didn't have to qualms about appearing with me because it has been a problem for people know. I was my brother I call my brother, my brothers, at these awesome, it's amazing would say hi to infer. Fire. He lives in our girls. He's he's gonna see this when it comes out, that's cool. Where can people find you if they want to find you get more information about your shows. Recent events, amorous operators on Instagram Peters dot com, so he hasn't subscribe to Russell on Instagram, please, yes and Youtube. You can go to my Youtube channel. I have there. I have over a million followers, I'm happy about that, because that's a little bit better for me, but and then I have my new gas coming out soon. It's called culturally cancelled. He wins, starting I've. Already I've already recorded six episodes and

I think it's gonna start in March. If I'm not mistaken, tat, good luck without Let us know around March to an old tweeted out and all of that, yes, and if You find yourself in LOS Angeles. I would love to have you on that would be really fun I've. Let me your views that I've enjoyed the most have always being with comedians yeah me, and I would Paris up with another committee into so wicked. I will just make it really ridiculous. That would be really good. You want a wrap up their kiddo. No, I don't have much to say that was fun. Thanks That was very funds. So thank you. Thank you and thank you George. Thanks for doing what you do both of you in this kid. You, I give yourself a pat on the back. Hey thanks. A lot. Thanks for all the humor man. Thank you so much radiated so wonderful to be able to laugh and and take care of your health. For me, please would you. I'm we need you, you can't go anywhere. We need you. Thank you.

The very heart of you, extremely necessary You, sir, there's a pleasure meeting you I hope we can meet in person absolutely one hundred percent guys.