Our magic series concludes with Chaos Magic Part II, in which we, as much as we possibly can, simplify fractals, the different types of sigils, and what system of magic might work for you.
Slow Burn Kevin MacLeod (incompetech.com)
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the Vhs and dvd combo. I think fathers really technology is done. Yes, this is all I need. I just needed sure the could blow me. She starter. Okay, all right! Welcome the show over what I've been Gisele, that's Marcus Parks. We got Henry over here too. Well, I,
hope that our listeners by this point are not only covered in pussy juice, but we have too much cash that they could
can't even spend it. After listening to last week's episode about chaos, magic, that's right, so you want them to treat it like Brewster's millions Patrick's for you get from Brewster, spend all the money within a year because of the universe is a funny sense of humor 'cause. If not, you turn into a fucking, alligator or portal, two
a mischief god? This is chaos, magic part two I mean
I thought we were in the in the market
first one. This is really going to get intense
this one right here is when we're really going to get into the nuts and bolts of chaos magic. The first episode was more of the basics. This is when we get into the stuff. That really shows you. I guess the inner workings of chaos magic
and I would also say that this is the stuff that is the most difficult to understand. The stuff that would probably it literally is a lifetime journey towards understanding, which is we're going to attempt to explain it. Now, on about a year of solid research- and it's still a lot of
alright, I'm ready to
the educated, yes, alright. So, let's start with fractals
to understand chaos, magic! Lord! I can already feel it. I know I actually episodes a nerd alert this hold up, so I know when you said fractals I immediately was just like. Can I just go to
bathroom yeah I have to skip this. Is such a disorder,
my cast magic. It's feels so much like the wall.
But chain version of the secret. That's very, very true yeah, but still in order to understand chaos, magic. He got understand. Fractals have to understand Frank, really do a fractal is according to the Fractal foundation, and we have to get through it and never ending pattern that repeats itself on different scales. We see
Michaels all the time in nature, for example,
a tree branch? Hello?
lightning bolt River network
and blood vessels all have pretty
much the same pattern while having vastly different purposes now. What you're seeing right, then, is something that that is even that is very difficult to even understand. This is how I got in my head right. Is that funny
like a shell, but you know like they have like the image of a con shell. Is that spiral you go deeper inside the pattern of the spiral. The spiral says the same as you go,
Perrin, deeper and deeper right yeah. Is it that the pattern within it is exactly the same? A frontal the concept is, is that the bill look big picture is exactly the same as the microscopic picture, which is like the way they compared a lot times, which I hear it's one of those markets and making a face like that. It's how they say it like one, this one theory,
is that they believe that, if you map of the actual shape of the universe, it may be very similar to the shape of the human brain literally looks like a a dented oval right and so that ideas that the universe is the size of the human bridge, the shape of the human brain. It's a fractal all of the human brain and that's the guy. If you can change your mind, you can change the universe and the universe played football, and now it has a terrible concussion problem is gonna, kill itself yeah. So in practice
by the way they're not just seen in nature. There also seen in math
also seen in art, but I don't really
I'm too dumb dead, really explain all that stuff, so just take it from the Fractal foundation. When they say fractals are smart science
math and art doesn't make
and so it doesn't know, know, know science, science, math and art smart, but you should
that works. For me, that's a rhyme and that works. It doesn't work because fractals are smart science, math and art boom.
Makes it look frankly, just explain what fractals aren't you Henry or you know they are smart. There is a mathematician right
literally pulling his car off the parkway click through the embankment into the street, he is, but he did a we're. Gonna have signed as blow their brains. Over with any luck, my car was slowly sink into this river. One of the ways in which chaos magic is practical. Is that
we may use different gods, different belief systems and different magical systems. All
It is essentially connected and when you look at it closely enough, it's all
essentially the same, we're just using it in different ways: fractals could even be applied to like the collective unconsciousness like through
history. You see like different societies on different continents and different climates
being extremely similar building structures and belief systems. Despite having
no contact with each other whatsoever?
now. Can we also say that a fractal, a conceptual fractal, is sort of how social networks and the internet he's a model based upon what is essentially the collective unconscious right yeah, maybe
no, no, I mean absolutely at the end of the day, no one is a unique butterfly. The only reason that anything functions is because we all have one universal truth that we can tap in
yeah everybody runs on Dunkin, oh my god. That's so true. You literally cannot have a pile of fireworks. Just left unattended. You have to blow them up. Absolutely thing is about
in order to see them. You got to have a broad perspective if you're only
Looking at these things on a miniscule level, then you'll miss
overall pattern. You can't see that a lightning bolt
blood vessel, are similar if you're looking at
on a molecular level only, but if you pull back your focus and open your-
open your fucking mind you idiot fucking get with the flow, oh, my god, I'm getting so frustrated with you. You can
see the similarities between the two things between,
in both and the blood vessel you can see the shape similar. Well, I mean it's amazing. If you look at videos or images of people who got struck by lightning, you know you see the the vein structure that happen exactly the pain straw,
yeah! It's and it's the exact same thing. That's a great example of a
thank you mark. Thank you very good work. Is it all sort of
We used lipstick to put lips on a butt hole that a fractal of amount. I think that that is
I'm going to make. This work is yeah. It is Henry somebody need some CPR gotta go down there and take a look
sir, please you're wasting nine one. One time I thought it was just lipstick on a butt hole, but then
put googly eyes on it and I been married it they had to. When you see those two shapes and you see the broad,
shape like when you really see all this. You look, for example, at Henry was saying about the
the universe in the human brain. If you work your way in, you
You see that on a molecular level, everything is essentially the same from the universe as a whole right down to the electricity popping away in your brain. All of this stuff is connected. All this is
Essentially the same so, therefore, if you change your mind is Henry said: if you change your mind, you can change the universe, but
it's very important here 'cause, I know, there's some science math nerds and geeks out there that are screaming about how we're misunderstanding fractals completely. We definitely are. We absolutely are like query completely and what I say is don't confuse the map for the territory.
Now. We do not really explain that in the first episode the map not being
territory is an essential quality of chaos, magic that you have to understand in order to move different rituals that we were talking about before with models right about you adopting beliefs in order for certain rituals in order to do certain things magically
Hines says, and what Robert Anton Wilson talks at all times of the map is not the territory? Did you think of the with it we and an example Robert Anton Wilson does? Is he said that the mind is in the computer right like you could talk about like there's an Aristotle, I forget the philosophy where there's no such thing as it is right. The mind is not a computer, you can just
scribe the mind using a map. That is an example of a computer, but it is not a computer, but you can,
find a way to understand it by putting a map on top of it, which is
We talk about the universe. Being like the mind. It's not that the mind is the fucking universe. Is that if you can just understand that this is a wait, it's a tool for understanding something about the universe in a way that you can grasp, then you can get power over it yeah, it's an abstract way of thinking, if you're, starting, if you're, trying to think about this type of stuff. In literal terms, if you think that look, ok, chaos,
when we say like fractals, you think we're talking about like literally fractals, we're not
just using these things as examples, it's a way for us to understand this. Yet, in order to tap into
the larger power that is
the universe and that you were saying it's a model it to forward
it's an example of interconnectedness yeah exactly what do you think then? Well, I'm
thinking about well, first of all, Dunkin donuts, as you know, Harry and re trigger that, but I was thinking about the map- is not the territory so you're saying you're you're, not a world traveler. If you look at a map, you circle, I rocket.
She goes exactly the exact to go there and explore the environment. So the map is just, I mean a lot of
so I think I understand that you use of explanation. This is takes years to understand. I just started really cut it grasping the tiny edges of it of just being like. Ok, it's just like this is not the mapping out the territory, but that's another way to get kicked out of a bus station constant, reminding yourself. It kind of reminds me of what happens now with virtual reality. It's still that's still the map, that's not the actual territory, so there is something sort of generic and unfulfilling about it.
Another day in long fat. Man, history boom, don't understand that lipstick on your butt hole card damage of tricked me again. I wanna see it whistle. Sometimes
some chocolate, I do
COS another huge
sing, another huge uh, as principle of chaos, magic that we have to talk about that. We talked about. We touch just a little bit in the first episode.
Is the old saying from Hassan Issa: Ba nothing is true, everything is
permitted. You know, Hassan Isabelle was probably born like Bill Myerson Indiana
but nothing really comes across is really prophetic. If your name is bill, Myers you gotta change it now
it is true. Everything is permitted. Took me a very long time to understand. It was something
I could never really wrap. My brain around, but I think maybe I've got some understanding of it. What I think it means what that means is that, if
thing is true, then you are free to choose whatever beliefs you want to choose without the burden of proof,
all it has to be, is true to you in a specific concept and then thrown away. That is what it's supposed to be in ritual you're supposed to believe that Horace is a God for a specific ritual, adopt an egyptian thing where you want to connect to something like let's say you want to get a deal on a trip to Egypt and it's writing to Horace about like please let me find some cheap airline tickets and you use you envision him and stuff like that, and then the next day, if you don't need horse anymore, you don't have to believe that any of that's real that horse is not real. I knew they use
for my travel plans, those bastards as soon as I get them to Egypt? They stop speaking to me yeah, but the problem is: is that then we're talking about, but in the moment Becaus you believe it's true. Then you made horse real in that period of time because you've called it for now. Are you
forces. What is technically, what is called a server terror was like and all the world the service person that's gonna help you out is like a meaning. I did you call in the, but the call center he's like that guy but he's magical, but that guy's got a whole life. And now you got to deal with you brought courses the situation. Now you got to do with horses baggage as a part of your request, I'm not sure if the
the guy in New Delhi that I talked to when I'm speaking with Sprint isn't magical, I gotta think that he is, and then it comes down to like different truths in different realities. Right, so my truth and reality are different than yours.
I believe that all ceilings are too low and most people don't have to deal with that yeah I mean and reverse it. That's how you Missy Elliot your reality is that you just say that everybody else is too short and then the seats are too small. You are normal right. Why do they come at me with pitchforks like, for example,
actually, if you're talking about like reality wise. Like my, I have a deeply held belief in the collective unconsciousness of humanity that can never be
a lot of people look down on me for that. They think I'm dumb for believing it. But if
I believe, was calling you dumb market capitalist assholes on the internet, which it had ever said. The dog meets dumb. I will pull him out into the street milk Urban, like a dog
oh, my god, I would love to watch you curb someone, but if I buy
as far as the collective unconscious goes. If I believe that
nothing is true. Then I'm free to tell those people to fuc off and use that belief.
For my own purposes, however, if I did
to use a ritual that requires me to not believe in the collective unconscious like for exam,
well if I need to do a ritual that require,
extreme isolation from humanity? If I have to believe that
all alone in this universe, nothing, you have to believe that, yet that you are the only person that exist yet or you can get up to yeah, then I got a set aside. My belief of the collective unconsciousness Intel. I knew
I love it and that's you know, that's where you really get into your radio heads, yeah and yeah and pulled five. I listened to a lot of Ben folds five and I look
that song one angry dwarf, even though I'm really big, but I was bullied too and I'm going to have free fat, I don't you already getting it slowly, but surely, but getting onto television, but it. But that's what we were talking about. The deep conditioning exercises are so important about chaos, magic. The ideas eventually you're, not supposed to believe in anything not supposed to have its only supposed to be what works for these contexts right now, if you're free to choose anything if you're free to believe anything, then it follows that,
anything is possible. Ie everything is permitted if there is no purpose. If there is no plan,
Then there is only what we choose to believe rather than what we are told to believe. Is there and then it's true yeah
most of the negative side effect, though, like a lot of people are like I'm, a Buddhist is just like no you're you're, not getting off the couch for three months, like I think you're, just really that produce them. Yeah there's a lot of problems all the time. That's the, but that's why the delay, but a part of cast magic is really important, is discipline, and
checking in with yourself and understand not becoming not getting
I do so. We talked about. We start to believe that you're Merlin right, even though you're just hanging out your room in stock and sweaty shorts, flooded, with playing with Terrel Cards right right, right, yeah. This whole thing: it's not about got waiting for God to answer your prayers and it is about being passive. It's about being pro
active in making things happen for yourself on a metaphysical level, and that's the thing. I think that metaphysically there's no do
difference between saying a prayer and performing a magic ritual. Both of them are petitioning an extra normal power for a request and results from both can be attributed
either believe that something actually happened or that
is all a coincidence or most
Klay. The judge
The sheer act focus help you to get through
whatever it is that you're trying to get through and at the end of the day it doesn't matter, none of it matters all that matters is that it works for you, and once you accept that
then you're well, on your way to becoming a full fledged chaos magician who cool and once
start practicing chaos magic. It's a good idea to choose what magical system that you think would work best for your specific ritual because remember, this is not a permanent thing. You are
walked into any of this. I love it. It's like a lease, as opposed to buy, buying
is like a lease. It's a magical lease and again remember chaos, magic the whole point of like it's not the same as right, hand, path or left hand magic. We can't really teach too many likes
the dog was with at the very beginning. This is about you practicing it. It's all. Chaos magic is all about what you do for it. It's not about. Like the books, you read. I think you can read as much as you want about rituals, but each one of them just as well, and then you got to
go from there. Now you make it up. Here is kind of a thing, but now you gotta go make enough. I mean
Kind of one of those bizarre things where it's like coincidences are they coincidence or did you will yourself to be put in those positions? I was talking with people last night for some reason after the live last podcast show here at the creek, and thank you
much for everyone who came out. It was so fun hello. They were they kept asking. How did we meet and I had to go way back and had
go through this whole story, and it's really it doesn't seem.
A coincidence in hindsight yeah. It just seems like it had to happen that way, yeah, and I wonder if that sort of plays into this whole idea possibly, and I actually think it's it doesn't matter
it doesn't matter because it worked out the way it did it's sort of like the moon is up there. Even though there are a lot of people that are really upset about it, yeah it's not up there yet, but it was up there. We wouldn't see it absolutely. No.
This is all about, is changing your belief system in accordance with the ritual, it's not about building a permanent belief system, because if you have a permanent belief system, then
immediately, reject anything that doesn't fit in with said belief. System in the whole goddamn thing falls apart, something I discuss
very recently long story short. I had a chamber now I got a mind horse. Listen
not your girlfriend. You can't flirt with us yeah it doesn't. It was that flirting was Marcus trying to flirt there. It is flirting with him and his girlfriend gnash their teeth at each other and they throw bones at each other, and then they just started talking in front of everything I say: well, that's really! No dinners serbian pickle girlfriend have a very special relationship. That's very he's really into this shed so yeah we were working on some stuff but yeah mine horse. That's what I got now I had to
the belief system that I kind of had before the kind of rituals that I was doing before
on a regular basis to kind of get my mind right. It didn't work because I
Go try going to that place that I've been going to that rich. Well, that would use to go to that place. To visit my key
the silent gates of my memory. I would also known, as the the the Crystal Castle right, that you're mine, exactly it was my my crystal castle, but I've been have and have-
push it going on recently, I've been having some bad times and then
Eventually like I kept trying to go there and then, when I
try going there. I found that everyone in it had been murdered, but it was burning down and then eventually it was just darkness. It was just blackness.
So that belief, system didn't work anymore, that doesn't. It sounds like a perfect place to
Now I don't it's it's the worst: it's not it's! Just darkness and demons like it's awful. Ok,
in my mind, I get carried everywhere by mind parakeets that wasn't something yeah, because
the thing is that that chamber was something because that bull
system that I had at the time. That was for me to get my mind right and for me to kind of get shipped organized, but now
Life is more of a journey for me. That's what's going on with me right now, I'm on more of a journey, I'm going to new places that I've never been before.
I need a mine horse thank mind. Yeah. I need a big stink mind horse to keep
we going through all of this bullshit, so I can now I use kind of the same type of ritual, but now, instead of
being the chamber I go and
my me and my mind. Horse explored together.
Check out the chamber of renown against other demons are doing. They get lonely too. Oh no. They follow me over, so they don't know no matter where I got now, they're not going anywhere they're. Just you know in my head forever and it's that's just how it's going to go and go to the doctor.
What's your meds checked out, I did. I went last Wednesday, good good good and that's where the mind horse came from. Is it which is bigger. Remember this horse pills big. Yes, today,
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And that's. The thing is that all these belief systems can be conceptualised by magical models. As far as what
magical model, as
the idiom that Marcus and I talked about it along time. This different things is it
it costumes classic costumes, there's actually more like hats, yeah, yeah yeah, it's like funny glasses hold on. Can we
look up a little bit just treat me like I'm a normal person yeah. What the hell no hat is ahead. Yeah well think about think about the idiom yeah I got
I wear a lot of hats. Explain what an idiom is saying: ok, yeah, it's a thing! That's a lot of times can turn out to be racist, deep within its definition, so where? Where is that these silly in terms of guys wearing a lot of hats? Yeah, it's not just some guys, such as some guy who's, addicted hats or not a guy with a big head, just got a little different rules in his life who's wearing the hat you are like. I have a hammer example. Let's, for example, yeah bend, you got you got some, what kind of headset upset if you acted as a common part of your life like John Wayne Gacy in order to kill a bunch of boys? I love a copy.
Yeah, see. For example, you have your last podcast hat and you got
Fox NEWS, app
You can see what I say you wear a couple of hat, so you know what I like to say: socks you, like space yeah, I got was a lot of different size. I wear many stocks were many side yeah, I'm on five different, six different podcasts and I wear a different hat for
podcast that I'm on right. You know an Henry. He has his pretty face hat and his
now no longer in use a dizzy. Hat
okay, it is still in using the heroes reborn hat, it's also just sitting in a closet, and it is waiting for Netflix to Fort to ask for me
Dom heroes reborn had again soon it's too, but that's it they, even if we're wearing different hats, were still based.
Really the same person right
Ical models are much the same way. It's put on a cost.
To help you do something. It's like a tool, it's a specific thing, and then sometimes these classes too, because sometimes like, if you want to pretend like you're in a week at a meeting, you put those glasses on that got the eyeballs. Absolutely we don't really. I mean that this is exactly what Donald Trump did. Yeah I put in that dumb hat is like I'm, President now make America great again cap, and this is really what he went through yeah I mean, but yeah I mean that's what he put on a literal hat. You know I'm actually starting to think that Donald Trump is some civil level of magician. I always yeah loosely believe he is what he is doing. Some right now is not a good magician he's being a Nadie magician. I wish you'd stop, but I think that he is being very, very powerful right now. Yeah absolutely he's got he's doing jet. I mind trick type of stuff, like the whole hand, motions yeah. He talks like this guy. He
Indocin dark ship
absolutely hanging out with the demons in that rejected Seda yours yeah, I love this shirt is fabulous, as I should have ever seen. It's great. I won't have anybody, say anything different. It's the best shared in all these demons right here doing hard work, it's fabulous! Well, I mean it was more made out of flesh and blood vessels and
in a fire better and better make a long story. It's a long, all right, let's get back! Well, I mean it's gone now: okay, but anyway, now let's go through magical models match
models. You know you wear. Whichever hat is best for the task at hand, pick a hat
pick, a hat, so magical models are much the same way: the oldest magic
model in the one traditional magicians use. Most is the Spirit model this
little is dependent on the other worlds being real, as in you can summon the
Lemenager Malik and build your will yeah, you know
you summon Adra Malick, hey
now to hang out with Maine or her
You can summon the egyptian God Horus and ask him for a favor.
You have to believe that these other realms are real and these entities are real and that you can go and talk to them, and then they hang out in the sky somewhere yeah. I just can I just give horse a compliment and not be
the room yeah I mean really, if you're bringing him in then you're already kind of bothering. I tell you what, if you go to Ben Kingsley and he's sitting in the airport he's on his phone? Even if you want to tell him you thought he was the best Indian there's ever been and you've met real Indian yeah. He will be kind of
because your father is on the phone right yeah exactly but with the
size of science in the 18th century century, we see the first manifestation.
The energy models for centuries millennia. It's just been spiritual, but in the 18th
treat you start seeing something new, the energy, the energy model,
Involves the manipulation of the subtle energies of the universe, such as what the Nazis tried to do with real
energy says like real energy, Orgone energy. What the what's prana! I like all that kind of stuff! It's like you, know essential life. Energy people are but she like all that that
but that is where that model came from. Is that there is enerji flooring at the universe and were magical. Acts are done through harnessing that energy or releasing it right
Bowie. He was really into the energy magic as well cocaine.
He meant that was his sort of fan base. They cocaine, peppers, milk, that's going to give you energy frequency.
Think about that. Like radio,
oh yeah, totally good, good work, Kissel. Thank you supposedly you're, going to
the learning company had admitted to several, so I might as well do a lot of weed before class I'm into it. I was actually watching a great documentary in the Carter family in the first radio that was just a tin can with a couple of sticks in it, and they were just like throw it throw the waves out there, people just
randomly find it was like a radio that was the bucket
It is incredibly fascinating. Thank you so much
The Energi model came the
I you model, which was popularized by Freud and Carl Jung. This transported
humans and angels and such from the other world to the inner world of the unconscious
mind. This is my go to a lot of time. I usually work in the psychology model, and I also I bring therapy into it as well, and you know there there's a lot of different ways that you can use the psychology modeling cast
I called you models that model that a lot of people use in order to explain to people that will magical. Imagine in the they will find you completely insane. If you say that you talk to Horace last night or meditation such as I got other things to psychology, that model is about to
king, some of the magic away from it and saying it's about what is its symbols there, that the things that were described as as OB actual entities are just symbols, and we can learn the mostly to learn about our self and our nature. With in the universe, yeah Austin Spare that we talked about the last episode, he is that he was definitely a he is, but one of his big things was a psychology miles. Some that I mentioned early earlier well,
the keepers of the so,
Kevin Gates of memory,
which that is actual manifestations of certain parts of your subconscious, that you can actually travel to
Then your brain and communicate with like Austin
are used to communicate with his subconscious through automatic writing, and he could figure
should out about himself that way or he quickly
ok did did way, but then
Spare made it practical, bye,
being sigil magic about. The whole point is, then that didn't he took it from the step of because the psychology model can then be compared to the right hand, path kind of stuff respond, inner transformation also the spear was like, but then you can use it to get yeah this thing. Yes, it seems to be the endgame for the majority of these people. Well, I'm a lot of time. They cannot floor
they were charming, they would not have started doing this stuff. They would have been in the entertainment business
most recent model that Phil Hine talks about in condensed chaos and remember that condensed chaos was written in
one thousand nine hundred and ninety five is what
behind calls the
neighbor nettik model, who this is a deeply rooted and chaos. Theory
and is mostly information based
This is something like where you, actually you take things from the internet. You take things from like just different:
now. How would you describe the cybernetic model Henry, because this is the one
it kind of makes me
No, this is the one that can you do basically folds quantum mechanics into magic. The idea is that this is all about understanding. Look him! It's it's my you!
view of the ideas that we're living in a hologram universe, and basically you can use your brain to jump into the dos programming of the universe and change it for yourself. Okay, like she like change, the mod settings like you can go in and like make everybody got big heads like the bill.
Clinton had used to have an NBA jams. Oh yeah, that's a great game and I love to go with this big old head. I thought about it like soup,
you know condensed condensed soup, you gotta add a little water and then you hungry- I am, I am, but you gotta add a little water, and then you get a perfect consistency. Yeah, so
for the water like this is how
Phil Hine describes these sorts of things
it is a set of techniques. For
causing a neurological storm in the brain which brings about microscope
fluctuations in the universe which lead event.
Delete a macroscopic changes in accordance with the magicians in
don't change your mind, change the universe in those last three words are very important to chaos: magic, no matter what system you decide to use the magicians intent
Do you want to go more into mid into intent, because I think you really got a good understanding on this, but about you
make a statement of okay you're, very clear and specific thing of what you want from the universe and has two very specific and has to be, but it's it's like it is my will that I will be like you know.
I do you I've done that before it I wrote, it is my will to book heroes reborn. I literally like a roadie, and I did- and I did I did it out and you you aim it and that's a part of
The idea is that you're supposed to use ritual, no matter what it is using different models in order to convince yourself that you're actually affecting change, and then your brain, if you truly do believe, can hack into the universe, is code and change it for you can literally,
This! It is my will to take Sean Hannity's job, yeah she and then working on it. But that's the thing, though you know when you say that it is my well, then you have to proactively seek that will out Friday and that's where they talk about a lot of times. It's like. Can you can just say it and go out of the universe. You would basically also increase your probability that you will will work by charging yourself by putting yourself in a position or it's like I can't just say, I'm going to book heroes reborn and be sitting in a seven hundred and eleven in Indiana not doing anything. I have already be on the road towards doing it, because the momentum is what allows you to push yourself. What they say is Pusha,
the boundaries of achievable reality right right, it's it! It's just makes it making room for what is possible right within your universe. Yes,
yeah and you also it's very important to make it very simple, because
If you have, if you have a simple statement of intent it let's you
Irv results, because if you
something that's a little more. If you do something say I okay, but I want to it, is my will to be better at parties. That's pretty Nabil,
it's like you can't necessarily like you can actually achieve.
Can't look at that result as either you are or you're, not you.
Words like you could lose your hands in an accident and have a fun story. When you go to a party you have like
we don't have the depth and self can can scoop yeah, it's cool, but it's more like it is my will to make a friend at a party. You know and that's a very simple thing, but it is like that's just
simple sort of thing, but that is also something that
the chief aboard you can either like. I did this, and if that is your will, if you want to make a friend at a party, I have some advice: your fauria drink all
the booze and just let people know what you think no way that's going to go horribly wrong. Also
for tell. Anybody. Was your statement of intent that night to make a friend at a
prepaid cannot go when someone like I had I intended to make a friend tonight. It isn't a party. Is it not? I can tell by the various favors well I'll, go find you one that is in me. Ok, bye! Now, let's go back to our Batman example. Let's say your
police, let's say you're a homicide detective, you got a body come up,
and murder police is such a cooler name than homicides is from the wire. That's the motor police, and you had this body come up. You got no clues,
no witnesses, you got nothing but dead ends, no matter where you go, love that show forty eight hours great, so good, so good. So if you would like to use chaos magic to solve this murder,
statement of intent could be a lot of old Batman, so I could solve the murder case. You want to involve batman
hey. Absolutely my son, Henry Thomas is gay. I can tell because he looks space of the opera. I want to invoke many scare, my son, to back into being straight, oh you're, playing
Father right now wow now, if you
form the ritual and all
of a sudden you're, seeing clues that you missed before and you're making connections that lead to the arrest of the murder suspect. Then you have achieved your statement of
You can even use real life people if you want to like you, can invoke Iggy pop to become a more confident performer or Steve Mcqueen. If you got win a street fight that you got coming up right, I mean it does.
Like it could be a risky venture for the cops I mean. I think this is when they start planting cocaine on people. You know I will. I will let you have cocaine. There's like put it on. I'm John DOE
Well, that really worked. I got some real results on the real results. Now, let's rap up this whole thing with a deeper explanation.
What is probably the simplest of techniques that you can.
Once you get your very first statement of intent signals,
What's important is on a day to day level the before you'd be getting just a just remember the day to day you should be meditating, keeping a journal, keeping a dream journal talk about coincidences marking, synchronicity is looking at your life, that's kind of what it is to get yourself into a concert, mind set of magic, hello and what they talk about with careful hind talks about which is leading
It's not getting magical, it's letting magic in it. You'll start viewing a third believing it all the time. So I could believe that there's no such thing as coincidence, sort of like do playing with it play with little day to day things and
you can really start doing sigil magic like
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Amber way at the beginning of this episode and actually about half way through this one. We mention a guy named Austin Spare and, as we talked before, Austin Spare was the guy that put together the whole system so dramatic. What is said your
is Sigil is created when one expresses their will or desire in a sentence. Then,
it's a single graphic symbol out of the letters without repeating any of them. In other words, one s is
enough, and you could also take your what I've. Also that you can do. Is you can take your will of intent?
What you want and you can
make an anagram of it. That is a nonsense, chant yeah, but you can also use yeah absolutely and what spare believed
was that these sorts of things the schedules, the sword to Anagrams and chance? What he believes is that the things
create ourselves are just as if not more valid than the symbols one might find in Grimm wars or the symbols created by people who claim themselves to be high magicians, just because
they decided that too, they are like
We just decided I'm a high magician. I know what the fuck I'm doing here use this sigil. Well, basketball player. Let me on their Brooklyn nets. No! No! I got the
Then I got the whole abroad I mean. Is it similar to marketing? You know, I'm thinking like the star.
Symbol. Yeah. Is it a sigil to some degree of the person who created that companies you have finitely? I believe that's a that's a
whole other, if we want to get into psycho sim,
allergy of trademark brands and how they use it to hypnotize us. That is a very big topic, and that is true. If you want to talk about magic done in a government basis. Look at nine hundred and eleven look at things,
did that are promoted all the time that that are pumped pump
like literally mantras, yeah, it's with spin, you might not not, unlike anything, that you would have the you've, never done it. I guess on Fox NEWS: no, no! What no! I did describe the United States as a as a as a business and the are major exporters. The branded that's totally correct, and that's all that we have is the idea of what we are and we're not living up to that idea very well how we're doing really badly. But what what Henry same? With that with nine eleven is that the chance is saying nine eleven okay sure writes like mentioning the words nine eleven as many times as you possibly can right all psyop. So it's all very you know like we said that
the government's been used in shed forever that, or at least pretty.
Since the fifties- and I mean and households use it as well, the ever and I have a house with a crest, for example, I mean definitely please the up.
A whole. Another episode want to get into that stuff. Yeah, absolutely yeah.
Spares reasoning was that if the purpose of magic is to exert ones will into the world
then it would follow that the symbols that come from within are the most powerful and efficient way to do so that it
you take what is within you and if you really want to,
your own will, then what you create is going to be the best way to do that
and Spare said that when the mine was in what he called a void or open state which could be achieved through meditation exhaustion or the peak of
Sexual ecstasy. He said that magical sing centrals could be used to
then commands to the subconscious that for exam
the masturbation schedule. That is a very common way of what they call firing ascential. So what you do is you basically told are different schedules called firing. Acidifier it out. There brother feels like a timer. Just put it on your eyebrows. Look like adr, Streusel, straw,
I'll, give me a facial. It seems, like you know, with
Firing a magical sigil, you should be thinking about me. It's like it's a whole other
yeah! I just got an idea.
Do not go there, but you get the idea. Is it you
who's in charge of schedule by
keeping your house there's diffe.
We should do it. You put it on your mirror. In the bathroom you put in your wallet, you put in various places with uh
I would think that Phil Hine like to talk about that, makes really effective for him. Is it you doodle it when you got nothing else going on if you're sitting someplace and you do it all it just kind of keep going, keep thinking about it, keep thinking about it and then, when you're ready to fire it, you look for an opportune time and then with it I mean. Essentially, you could kill a chicken
not like you could do one thing you could stab a horse in the neck. I'm on
no! I like the horse. I love horse. You know who cares? Who cares about chicken? But you? Don't you don't with horses you could fucking gutted
you can think about it? If that's what you want to do, don't kill people. We can't say that on the spot, can I don't know, and we we say: do we say our not guilty, but it's good, you don't ever do that, put you, but they
in most equivalent- is to come and when you come, you fire it
Imagine the symbol in your head and then you shoot it out into the universe. Well, what? If, when you do,
that you accidentally doodled a dick 'cause, you always doodle Dixon. Then you thought of a dick. When you came, that's it
and you do a homosexual. Oh, I see there's no coming back from that man answers yeah, but no it's
interesting, but he said is like what you can also do is he said there are other ways to do. It is uhm coughing
forwarding or sneezing.
You can fart on the schedule. You can fart out a symbol, the signal and then
just as you age, just as powerful as coming but
if you're a sigil, that's a rough life. Yet, no matter what, like the best case scenario, is getting coughed on. I think that Today'S-
once you have that, once you fire out that sigil into the universe forget about it, don't think about it: okay, yeah
I think thinking about it right now, you're thinking about it, don't think about don't think about. Well, I think
do you think about it? Then it gives you a much higher chance of mention that you forwarded on a piece of paper in the office. I have done this. Do you want to forget that yeah you will you remove it from your conscious awareness, you cut it kind of gets planted in your sub, conscious. It grows in your sub conscious mind and when ripe, the commands would
manifest themselves in the world of conscious reality, achieving the magicians, initial intent cool and you can also use
as a conscious tool, something to summon when you need it for
sample, my very first schedule was formed from the sentence I want to get out
my own head, meaning, I had a problem living in my own thoughts without truly experiencing anything that was happening around right. However,
while the sigil was formed of I want to get out of my own head, the statement intent ten. The statement of intent was, I want to use sigil magic
get out of my own head, it's a small difference, but it's an important one for anyone
so it's actually wants to try this thing. I would not do something as broad as get out of my own head out. You'll get and have done that did then you're opening gates to a bunch of it's a lot of stuff coming in there. Do you have a look me up real bad? You have to do it in a very small level. It's literally like I am gonna, not gonna, be I'm not going to be in traffic on the way to work today, like you, like literally it's like we
started real, real small and,
The thing to remember is the qualities of chaos, which I think I wanted to bring up last time which they talk about in the condensed gas. It's really interesting, you have to remember before you do any of this stuff is KS stands for confidence, honor attentiveness organization, an sensitivity and
big thing in there is honor
part of what it would be talks about with come condenser with chaos. Magic is that if you say
stuff like I'm, going be a place. You you gotta, go there. If you promise somebody, if you promise something to somebody, you got to do it.
Point is as a magician your
pardon. Your thought is supposed to mean something to the universe and your schedules are not going to work if you're a liar you're not going to work, because the idea is that your word has to be your bonds, and that has to mean it has to actually mean it. So when you say something you have to mean it, because you only way that this kind of process is going to work yeah absolutely, then there are hyper sigil's
which incorporate actual stories plot and characters that you create yourself. This bill cycle path works.
We talk about just like ideas that you create a whole scenario like a magical thing, where you're going to learn something about yourself or get something by adopting, like literally you playing out a story like it's
acting. It's like literally going, and do it's doing a thing in a in a model and great Morrison. Does it all the time yeah grant Morrison and his biggest one was the invisibles. The invisibles was actually
A6 year. Long. Fourth
tensional hyper sigil that he used to effect change within
his own life and, if you believe him, it worked, but he also almost die
I doing it. No, the old mill also only specifically wears Oakley's inside yeah. It's kind of a bizarre thing that he does there yeah. That's the comic book, the invisible the outcome, but the invisibles that what he says that he actually put himself in
to the invisibles you?
myself into the comic book in the form of a character named king.
Bob, and he said that when he wrote king,
meeting a certain type of woman. He'd go out and he'd meet that same type of you know.
Sort of thing, but he also in one part of the series when you gave King mob, you know give King MOB got captured. You know he was being tortured when that happened, king
Bob Grant Morrison also got extremely sick with this really weird rare disease and he almost died. He came extremely close to dying yeah, so it works both ways like what he put the character through. He also found it. Kinda happened to him in real life like there was some correspondence and you know
knows. If that was just coincidence, and who knows if that was just his, you know mind really making that. But that's the thing is that his mind, even if
I was just as mine. Making that happen. He made it happen and steaming
Stephen king when he was writing it. He turned into a spider, it's really weird, and he thought I thank God that he threw out that not function book. It was writing old man gets hit by Van, oh, my god. I know it was a very clear premise, but truly horrific.
Yeah and by the Grant Morrison's book super super gods. A great introduction introduction all all this stuff. If you're already into superheroes and want to see examples of what can be done with chaos magic, then you can read Super Supergods,
he doesn't get real.
Be into it like bill,
a dozen condensed chaos he just got. This is like
I use this. I did this sort of thing and it's sort of wet your appetite for all. It's also, if you're into superheroes this market use long examples of superheroes, which I am not particularly very into. I don't give a really care about superheroes bite if they are very convenient way to put as like a kind of folk lore types that you can hang stuff on. That, like you, can put call
yes, you can attribute qualities to them that help you in these kind of rituals, but it really is up to anything anything like a lot of times in my head. I mention Huntress Thompson's, like I mean I mention him just because of what he meant to me from as a kid Philip K, Dick I have it his his face up is on my wall. Like I'm, I look at Philip K, Dick's life all the time, the stuff he talks about the balustrade gene that that's the kind of thing that and that feeds me. I I want
old, japanese death matches with Mick Foley and Terry Funk. Yeah, those are actually amazing. There was more match where they had to dip. The loser got dipped
do a bath of piranha- and I remember, was thirteen and they pulled the guy out right away 'cause, they are piranha fish, and I was watching when I was thirteen years like they should have kept
and now at thirty four might get out of there. So why would you put him in there in the first place- and you know, and all this stuff like we said, we're rank amateurs at all this type of stuff, like please read at least condensed chaos before you. Try
any of this stuff, you saw yourself. All we really done is give you a bit of a primer.
To make getting into this stuff, just a little bit easier, as always just have fun
have fun with it happening with serious. You fucking idiot fucking relief yourself right and you know what I gotta get. It gonna get a little corny, but you can really do whatever the hell. You want to do yeah. You know, and that's the great thing, no matter what you know where
into an environment that we have no control over, but in reality you do
yourself happy and you really you're allowed to be happy. You don't have to be stuck in any paradigm. You can just let it go anytime, you're stuck with you feel, like you're stuck
There is no marriage, that's permanent, there's, no life situation, no permanent, just get out of and the result is stopped. There's this man
of misconception that somehow you have to be a miserable starving or maybe a starving artist. If you want to be thin, I should be more of a starving artist, but you know like so many with so many like young stand up comedians. They go through this thing where they feel like they have to be miserable, otherwise, they're not suffering for their art. You can just be happy as hell yeah
and and do everything you want to do. Yeah totally men were happy
I feel fine. I feel that I'm not the happiest. I've ever been I'm getting there
good Marquez felt good. Take thanks. Man don't go to the demon house tonight yeah! I would I don't go there anymore. I got my horse. I do kind of want to find directions to it. Yeah I would love to go now. It's easy. Just
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