It's our bloodiest episode yet on Last Podcast as we round out our coverage of the Vampire of Sacramento with an absolutely horrific five-victim murder spree that ranks among the most disgusting and disturbing ever recorded in the annals of American crime.
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Is it going to be a problematic
That's another term. I've learned from Tumblr I've it is. This is going to be on very difficult to swallow. This is Richard Chase.
Two Richard the vampire of Sacramento Chase, which did you don't get that nickname for just wearing a cape. The new dam seems large, Richard Divac. Did the Sacramento Valley
higher Chase. That's a lot to say: yeah yeah yeah,
He created a lot. He crammed a lot in there. He
save the VLAD Dracul lifestyle at about five days and that's hard to do very because black dress black dress schools,
whole lifestyle took a lot of infrastructure by the way. If you call him drag cools, I'm allowed to say ooh foes know his name. Is a blood draw cool? Oh, it sounds like a dumb Nestle chocolate drink is romanian, alright, so Richard Chase part two Marcus. When we got all right, we left off after the murder of Ambros Griffin. The drive by murder, Richard Chase is very first victim in between the
first murder and the second chases bloodlust intensified a neighbor named dawn. Larson saw him Kerry. Three animals on different account
turns into his apt two dogs and a cat respectively. She never
saw the animals ever again. It's like he was running his own hot dog factory. That's awful! I mean it feel like it's one of the one of the last comic strips of Marmaduke. You know what model Duke was abducted by Richard Chase, like oh you're, you're, pretty big dog,
You got just enough blood to make me normal again. Woo God he's just so full of antics, you're knocking over my blender. That's a baby got sciatica you're ruining my life seems normal dude, so good
Let's talk about a little bit,
between us first murder, when he shot Ambrose his last name, Ambrose, Correct, Ambrose, Griffin, Ambrose Griffin, was shot in his like this was sort of a human testing himself. He had built up to this point. We know he had '
shooting things around the neighborhood. He bought a gun. I
between that and then he shot his neighbor right,
He got a thrill 'cause. It was like a neighbor of his, so this is all within like a mile of his apartment right, and so he
walked around this time. The kind of amping himself
in the meantime, he's also trying to be super normal to his family? He shaved he's cut his hair. He still walking around saying, like I'm, really thinking about getting a job, but they don't understand that job is actually be
being vampire, which also is interesting. You don't need an application for no you don't it whatever it is. It's signed in blood, though,
yes and he started up purchasing animals up at this point. The guess he was the he was taking and so to a point where he was starting in cross of illicit pet stores. Also,
dogs would viciously bark at him on the street, like literally, he would go to adopt new animals that he was going to kill and the animals would recoil from him like they were reading something from him. Is it very dangerous person he's already killed one person, and so apparently he he adopted a dog over a thing like Craigslist or classified that he got the dog back to the house.
Killed it drink its blood, then called the woman and described how
dog died anonymously from pay phones and saying all this like up. Stop
Only she would know quote a quote about the dog, which I don't know what that is, but yeah
up to so he's really amp himself up yeah, I got to say these pet store employees didn't seem to be doing their jobs. How many cats do you need in a week before you get crossed off the list? Your one dog, every
five years. That's the rule. So in January, twenty
one thousand nine hundred and seventy eight Richard
is decided, it was time to get up close and personal with his first human blood victim. He began at twenty nine
nine thirty street, walking up to the house of a woman named Jean late, and you tried her patio door at the door was locked. So we moved on to the windows when he found that they were locked as well. He went to the back door. We're gene was staring out. The two came face to face
the glass and she said that he stared at her with no emotion as if he was looking at a car. He was thinking about
I have a lot of emotion when I think about purchasing something. So that's where we might be like oh yeah, buying a car is extremely emotion, seems fun yeah, so he then lit a cigarette
walked away through her backyard,
Jeans House, Richard walk down the street and thirty minutes later walked, as the unlocked House of Robert and Barbara
Edwards now? This is another weird vampiric twist to the Richard Chase story, but this is what part of why he gets the nickname of the vampire of Sacramento. Right so years later, Richard told FBI Profiler Robert Ressler, that when he went out to
he only went to houses that were unlocked, not because it was easier, but because he thought that a locked house meant that he was not welcome, which
based on the belief that vampires can only enter once home. If the resident invite said vampire inside that is my favorite rule of all the vampire lore is that if you just have to be Curtis
accounts and the vampire takes it seriously. Can I please come inside? No, you cannot
I guess I'll go to the burger king. If they let you in no no hungry so Robert and Barbara
I came home from grocery shopping, open the door and
on the filthy, scraggly chase standing in the hallway, and I bring your butler I'm looking for a job which all my parents, I come back with a job? Well, it does kind of bring us into another class. If we have a butler hung up, a nobody ever won, loves Mister Belvedere that so badly. I guess he was having. He was putting forth some semblance of normalcy to his parents, but every
and who saw him over the course of these few days just described him.
we'll see words unhinged when you're, when you used the word on hinges, use about you for for
five times in a description right. You need to talk to someone. You need a makeover. First of all, please yes, downward spiral so
when Robert Barbara saw Richard, they chased him around the house for awhile RAM ram ram ram Anon blood before Richard finally got past them and ran out the front door. Now Richard
intended to steal a few things as they found a bag filled with items such as rings, a tape player, a decorative dagger and just
the scope. Why did they have these things? What we got weird in our house,
sort of dagger. We do because that's us, I don't have a decorative dagger. I barely have a butter knife, not sure you have no silver ware or working gas in your home. You don't need it if you don't cook, but Richard had
so left something behind. Oh when the couple walked into their babies bedroom. They found that Richard had opened up the chest of drawers and urinated on all the babies, clothes that had walked over to the bed and took a nice big, dumb
right square in the middle, oh look! Davie! Now you have a little brother you're holding the dumb PS notices. That would that's what you want to do right now that your act out that you chose yes, did you put ice on the dump? Yes little googly eyes like an emoji. That's really unfortunate! It's disgusting he's not well. Well, isn't this exactly what Albert fish would have done in this in a similar situation, literally exactly like bumper, I also could have just been scared and left a ship like he's a squid, you know when this shoot. Now I don't think you would my god what is it with
leaving the fecal matter behind what about power and degradation of a subject is showing that it's a it's about going in there and not showing it literally. I should on this thing I should, on the other thing that you find sacred in order to get a like
get his wiener. Well, what this is all about. What this day is all about is escalation.
A lot of killers they take. They have a sort of escalation that may take years or months or even years, Richards doing all this. In one day, this is like baby's day out
ending in the worst possible way. I heard it's the director's cut of maybe say out. Yes, like Keeper Sutherland in the movie in the tv, show twenty four hour three involved: that's not a dresser and taking a dump in a room in if, if it was playing in France, our two three four and five, the peeping Akaka most degradation off. But he is you got all these three very old, but you'll. Remember we could you talk about how we use is being relatively normal to his parents, the again
only reasons why they say that he was acting. Normal is because he wasn't talking about how hot his blood work was like Donald Trump. You start with like talking about. You, know random newscasters, vaginas, and then you escalate to grabbing them in that, but yeah. The bar is extremely low for Richard J watch to murder their family pet in cover himself with the blood of the pet and no one said anything then send him to a hospital. So now it's just like all right. As long as he's wearing pants not covered in dog blood, now after the break in Attempt Richard was thirsty, so he went to the store to grab himself and orange soda, which was his face
besides blood? This is where it's oddly similar to you. I also feel that he would also really enjoy IRN brew. Well, I prefer gray
Soda over all of them, yes,
we are in brew is more of a bubble gum flavor than an orange flavor. It's just colored Orange well. Why did you get in talking about this? I'm sorry! Now there, while he was at the store he ran into an old classmate of his A1. Miss Nancy Holden Chase walked up to
Who are you on the motorcycle and car was killed because now
I have been
looking awesome. Who are you
no tragedies you never good old screaming fly over here and she tell me how your bones in your face backwards, and because you look lovely Richie, yeah she's, so
It now says the Orange soda huh oh Nancy, had in fact dated a guy in high school named Kurt, who had died
in a motorcycle accident but Nancy. Barely.
Good Richard as he was filthy, smelly, smelly, skinny,
than usual and wearing a bright orange ski park. It was covered in dried blood yeah. Well, it had. It was covered in brown states because, as we talk about on the show, blood dries
so most people when they see a blood stain, they don't immediately recognize it as a blood pressure with the other option is that he's covering shifts so that varies, it could be gravy is this is right after he urinated in a home and took a dump, it was chased around a home, but he didn't like thirty minutes. After what were the people that just recently chased him, do they call the police or what do they
I mean? How do they lose it? I mean they call the police. I because it well that's the thing is that Richard chase slippery dues slippery hot number. This is the seventies. Has a lot of hippies. The the the the right on wars were winding down. The hippie movement is grinding into a weird gray or lying like this tend to be I'll. Just watch out on acid. This probably happens two or three times a week and they may have like at hippie sweeping broom. They get off the porch yeah. Apparently when he was running for the house. I forgot this when you were
screaming, stop stop he scream
taking a shortcut that's true to the deli. I guess
well Nancy finally broke free, but Richard
hold her outside asking for a ride. Nancy managed to get in her car start the engine.
And drive off. Just as Richard was about to open,
passenger side door
I think the one some reverse way he's like watching Nancy and Nancy and him are having like a like
one of those see you next year moments nobody them romantics, music's playing in Nancy's like Richie, I just kind of
I was just wondering when I was going to see you again and you you were in the neighborhood and he match himself in a full tuxedo with like flowers covered in blood
thought he was like offered to
in the car like she was inviting him in the car, it does seem like a fantasy that would come out of Jim Carey's character from dumb and dumber. Well, that's the thing is that we don't really know what intentions Richard had with Nancy hold it might.
We really don't. I mean it was just looking for a ride. He might have been looking for a ride. They also might have been looking to kill yeah. Why? Wouldn't we assume he's looking to kill? What's because he would switch on and off really hard when they were talked about when he would, when he killed Ambrose the first time he just went home and watch tv all day like you would switch with him, but he would switch off like he would go up. He would go into a frenzy and then like a channel flipped and then all of a sudden he's acting like everything is all normal. He was doing so. I am assuming that he is going to kill everyone he's in contact with well, he started with trying lock doors. He graduated
burglary. He moved on to harassment and a possible kidnapping attempt because don't forget he had a twenty two
pistol, shoulder holster this entire time, and I also imagine he was not that careful with it. I imagine
he's got their jacket, flapping open. You still get our covered in dried blood. She sees the
gun holster slapping against his belly. Like that's hard,
that's hard to say. Yes still, like yeah sure I'll give you a ride to present him to Congress and talk about concealing Kerry would be like this is what it looks like, because he wouldn't potoky body gun for sixty nine dollars so which tapped out all of his funds, and then he
his mom to buy him the holster and she said no, so he stole it from a thrift store, that's the I. He had the gun
whatever you want with it? Yeah yeah gun first so after
always gotta gun first. So after all of that, he finally landed on murder at two thousand three hundred and sixty t Oga way, and we do know that
point. His motive was no longer robbery, because a blue Van was parked in the driveway clearly marking that someone was home now. What we don't know is why he chose that house, specifically the only excellent,
If there is one at all, is that Richard recognized the van from his earlier trip to the store where his
Teresa Wallin had just visited about an hour before Richard showed up
house is now. What we know about Richard is that he is obviously he views things symbolically as well, and I think because he's
deeply schizophrenic, which you can imagine what's like when you were now deep, your seneschal
tripping all the time and when you're tripping thing
withhold, sort of psychological and symbolic meaning where you saw the cat. You saw that van before right. Now he sees the van here at this house. It's like a sign. I should go in this house or
completely fucking random, which is just the truth.
Like most of the time serial killers are not completely random, well, sometimes
serial killers case their victims, while they watched them, which a lot of the time yes but Richard Chase was not like that at all. No, it's like he is that he is the absolute textbook definition of the
disorganized serial killer. Well, he's he's somewhere between Tasmanian Devil, the Tasmanian Devil, an him.
Use the Tasmanian devil. I love the Tasmanian devil, but he was cute. Well, he wasn't that you mess you up. Yeah like Richard Chase, absolutely never ask permission to come into your house, Richard Chase kind of looks like mark. I know I have to describe this cute,
also as a bloodthirsty
blood hungry many I've been trying not to think about how much Richard Chase looks like Marcus, but now that you brought it up. Why,
Did you say that I'm a bloodthirsty maniac, I'm just saying just play with bones Henry? He he's like the Tasmanian devil. He put you on.
You now you are Marcus host blood parts. Alright, so it makes sense to ban triggered something like wow. I know that band let's go in and more than likely now Richard walked up to the door
took is twenty two caliber handgun from his leather shoulder holster cocked. It took the bullet, he objected and placed
Interes is mailbox before opening the door there. He
Teresa Wallin on her way outside with a bag of garbage. In her hand, when Richard pointed the gun at Teresa, she dropped the bag,
and held up her hand. Just as Richard began firing the gun. The first bullet entered her palm traveled up her arm exited her elbow and nicked her neck. The second went through the top part of her skull and she dropped to the ground. Richard then walked up to her and fired one more ball it into our temple from six inches to
hey a mercy considering what was still the Congress now we're looking at you know between product temper and process killers he's a product killer. He wanted to kill
plus fast as humanly possible, so that he could get ahold of the body. He did not want the struggle that
not where the pound, and it was immediate control of the situation. Yes, because it was a weak person like you, this body was
Scrawny skinny, like he's not going to wrestle somebody to the ground. Well, he actually he looked weak, but he was actually surprisingly strong. Ok, so she did not have very unfortunate terrable demise
but not as terrible as it could have been. I suppose absolutely not especially considering what he's going to do now. Richard picked up three
his body by the shoulders and dragged her to the bedroom, leaving along dark streak of blood on the floor after he laid her down. He walked back to the kitchen, got a knife and picked up an empty yogurt cup that he had spilled out of the garbage that Teresa had dropped. Richard walked back to the bedroom and started work on the body. He first pulled her sweater
over her shoulders and cut off her left nipple. He stabbed her torso so hard. He split open her sternum and sliced
left side of her stomach open. He reached inside the wound and pulled out the intestines until the organs were exposed. He stabbed the organs eight more times so deep that the knife came out through her back the only organs he left unscathed or the kidneys. He then used the empty yogurt cup to gather blood from Teresa Stomach, cavity and drank. He then went to the bathroom and smeared his face and hands with that same blood. The final indignation came when Chase walked outside. After all of this picked up a pile of dog feces from the yard, and shy
Interes is mouth, but worst of all, when an autopsy on Teresa was performed, it was discovered that she was six weeks pregnant. Oh my goodness, God! Well, that's absolutely brutal. Can we get a bit of a pallet cleanser after that? So we can continue on with the podcast. Marcus sorry
mark this fat, bastard, Austin Powers, that's the pallet wood airplanes, other S, Limburg! Do you have any other one thing. That is not a good, but it is inappropriate. Alright, let I don't think the pallet cleanser really worked in this situation. It might have made things worse. It is very unfortunate alright, so it's super intense he's absolutely off his rocker totally insane at this point. So now again he when he finished his crime. He left there he's a literally around the corner from his apt. I went into his own apartment and then just turn on the tv. So.
Watch tv, just love, TV, Sanford and sons, or something like that? Well, you know what I mean to her family that just unbelievably awful. I can't imagine how it would feel if somebody
If that's how a loved one is treat,
you, know, post mortem, I guess thank God,
was post mortem. I suppose, but that is just that's awful,
We do not condone it, think Lamb Shank, you can select no problem. Yeah yeah with her husband, the founder, came home and found her like that. Oh, my god, yeah Richard
is a terrible he's, an awful human days dead
yes, fuckin' daddies in hell right now, it's fine, I'm getting torn apart by demon. Yes, today
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with most serial murders. Police had no immediate leads on the murder of Teresa Wallin, because the vast
already of murders are perpetrated by someone the victim knows so when you've got a murder like this with no apparent motive, it's very
forgot to know where to begin, obviously, because nature nature, a crime,
its intensity is also viewed. It's like either. Someone must have hated her or someone is a complete and total psychopath yeah and
We have to really really really hate someone to do something that bad yeah really the only thing like the family, the her, I guess
husbands, sister thought that the crime was
traded by one of the husbands like ex girlfriends, because they heard that the Ex girlfriend was into a satanic cult. Of course, this is one thousand nine hundred and seventy eight everybody
thanks that everybody said Fuckin', satanic everybody getting through the beginnings of heavy metal they're having a great time there, sweat there sexy and cool and wearing black and have a great time there, just the first people out of the hippie movement, so
Blame is a technical people. Did you, I don't mean to get the fence, I'm gonna say if I had it. If I knew someone wasn't a satanic cult, that was an ex girlfriend of the you know of the husband of the wife. I would I would look at would sniff around. You know just make sure. Well
You know, even though it was hard to know where to begin, that's not to say that the Sacramento Police Department didn't try, particularly the lead, detective lieutenant Ray Biondi who wrote the book from
much of the research for this series is taken from the book? Is
the vampire killer and it is solid. True, crime. Writing, if you like cop written books, man this,
one for you yeah, if you like, top where it's not just been like gay name me and the boys, we work come over a little bit and then we got free ice cream cone because with the police, okay, my goodness, so the cops in this situation markets. What? What are you
giving them a five out of five stars, I'm giving him five out of five man. I'm calling these guys super cops. They work really. They worked really hard on this case. Yeah they. Actually they actually did now. The only
the police had were a set of footprints in a pool of Teresa's blood. The bullet that
ended her life in a uh
have rings near Teresa's body that appear to be from a bucket or pan that had been set on the floor, which imply
Guys Richard Chase brought his own bucket
either brought his own bucket or had taken one, but one of the buckets from the kitchen, which is much more likely yeah because he's not
organized enough to bring a bucket with them
they think about it, though, if you're going to bring one thing, if your, if your job is you view your job, is that your vamp here, one of the things you need is a bucket and then
the bucket for for years, your doggie bag, but I guess so yeah. Well I mean no one reported him. The friend at Nancy Holden didn't report him having a bucket at the supermarket. That would have been a detail that she would have remembered: clang, Clang Clang having fun with my pocket member. When your boyfriend died. I sure do I get hard from him anyways. Could you hold my pocket for a second? These fucking guts are very heavy orange soda. I always liked Richie before police
even know Richard chases name. He would claim for more victims on January 27th, one thousand nine hundred and seventy eight
Richards possible search for the right house would begin days earlier on January 24th and I say possible because well we don't actually know if Richard was case
houses are just acting on a schizophrenic impulse. He started,
going door to door asking for old magazines, specifically back issues of mad magazine,
and Cosmo Magazine was hilarious at the time this was the golden age of man. Magazine really was. I have a whole collection of lady of mid to late 70s. Mad magazine come when you want, and Cosmo is all about, learn, honey, pussey and so he's just trying to connect he's trying to date.
I don't know how you found out that I wrote mad magazine and drew the great funny comics in bad magazine I'll, be quite disheartened to know Richard Chase loves them. What, if I'm Richard, I don't want to make. I don't wanna make Richard J Slash. Don Martin was devastated. What, if
I found the right issue of Cosmo that taught him how to break the ice with that girl that he wanted. I don't because it was that good. He goes back to finance he hold and he goes like. I want to ask you about your interest and also I hear one hundred cold on the vagina. I don't think it's going as I'm stronger. Alright, I don't think it'll work January 25th a couple called police after they found one of their Labrador puppies dead on their rear patio shot with its stomach ripped open.
When police asked him they'd seen any strange characters, they remembered
skinny filthy man in an orange jacket who had bought two puppies from them days earlier,
still understand? How are they selling puppies to this? Guy
they just want to get rid of puppies. You show me
people that want to puppy Christmas is right. Around the corner, Christmas had already passed her puppies being given away yeah. These are this is post Christmas puppies? No one wants puppies in January, so I'll take a puppy in January and that's also a great new lifetime movie puppies in January. Please, in January, are they just food for vampires hope not lieutenant beyond the acting on a hunch and remembering
the reports people have made of the magazine hunter that fit the same description. He ordered an autopsy on the little pup and found fragments of a twenty two bullet
wasn't enough to match it to the wall and murder, but it was still a clue. It definitely wouldn't be enough, though, to catch Richard before he committed one of the
worst murder sprees in american history, be prepared, it's
it's cold start items that no. Why does that ring like I'm talking to an empty graveyard? It's just this is what we do in the podcast we're going to test your patience as a human being and test your endurance as a compassionate human
Our listeners are very compassionate, wonderful people, yeah
compassion, wonderful people, that's why we'd say Goldstar, because that's pretty much just saying like hey it's about to get
no battle we're all in it together forced to be here. What do they get in return for getting the gold star? They get a thumbs. They get a like on Facebook, yeah we'll give them all like you get a like. You get a bad thought big old thumbs up if those Frankenstein to still around I'll give you one of those other God Halloween's over yep. All done now just
yeah. So how long of a spree here are we talking Marcus darling about forty
minutes. It's in forty five minutes said bill. You need it's like Michael Jordan. All you need is one basketball game to make a career. I believe you also equated TED Bundy to Michael Jordan, so I ended up using up Michael Jordan, a lot because he's all actually only yeah. I look at him up to. I look up to him. You're only athlete you know: Emmitt Smith,
Hey on standard. All from the mid nineties, yeah in the lobby for me- and I you just live in Cal boys, okay, he's from the prior to white good! That's why you located diction! That's alright! All right! Forty five minutes Bundy ask, I suppose, yes,
Evelyn mirror off with a third.
Eight year old, single mother, who lived with her Tucson's Vernon, thirteen and Jason Sixth and the country Club Center neighborhood of sacrum
on January 27th. She was at home with her son, Jason
and her sister in laws twenty month old, baby boy and that day Evelyn had planned to send her six year old Son, along with the neighbor, to play in the snow at the foot of the Sierra Nevada mountains. But the boy would never leave the house alive thanks.
Richard Chase at nine hundred and five am Evelyn's friend, Danny Meredith came over to the
or says house in his bread station wagon and was asked by Evelyn to go back out and rent some snow shoes for Jason to take on the trip and after Danny left, the House Richard Chase entered through the unknown.
Back door walk to the bathroom where Evelyn was taking a bath.
Really shot her in the head killing her instantly, just as he had done with Theresa Waldron. He then drag them,
naked body out of the bathroom and later out on the bed, and while we don't know exactly what happened next is presume
that the six year old son Jason heard the shot
and came into the room to see what it happened. Chase
shot. The six year old boy, twice in the head at close range, left the body on the floor next to the bed and walk to the kitchen to get a knife. So he could repeat what he had done to Teresa Wallet and it's Richard was in the kitchen
heard, the front door open. It was Danny Meredith returning from the sporting goods store chase, pull the twenty two out from his shoulder huh,
met Danny in the hall and shot him straight between the eyes. It's then that Richard noticed the sound of a crying baby coming from one of the rooms
He walked to the bedroom with a baby lay in its crib, pointed the gun at his head and pulled the trigger, so Richard then returned to the
groom, taking two carving knives from the kitchen with him.
Began the same blood ritual he had performed on. The corpse of Teresa want. First
cut, open. Her stomach sternum to naval then cut again across her belly and pulled out the intestines. He stabbed her deliberately in specific organs again, leaving only the kidneys unscathed, repeating what he had done, the first time he then took out the liver, cut off
eight. After that you pulled out the rest of the organs and collected as much blood as he could from the abdomen of Evelyn Miroth, again just to see a done with Teresa. But this time Richard decided to take it. Even
he rolled Evelyn onto her stomach and stabbed her anus six time
sodomized, the womb. He then her back over.
Sliced, her neck open and carefully cut out one of her eyes. It's
Richard had done all we wanted with the body of Evelyn Mirror off, but his work in the house was not done yet. He went back to the babies. Room brought the body into the bathroom split, the head, open and partially dumped the babies brains into the bathtub and suddenly a knock came from the front door. The family across the street was still waiting for Jason to come over, so they could head to the mountains, and the mother had sent her daughter to check.
Thankfully Richard did not open the door; instead, he waited until the little girl left took the keys to the red station wagon from Danny Merit of the body and the
unseen, with a bucket of blood in the body of a twenty month old baby,
crime scene would be discovered. Thirty minutes later, when a worried, neighbor open the back door,
and saw Danny Meredith's corpse lying in the hallway.
My all right, so that's completely brutal. Have you got a gold star? Are you happy with your all right? So so home is so. There were three people that he murdered a for for people in this house. Yeah it was, it was l, a was Evelyn Mere off Danny Meredith. I
Jason mirror off
and the baby, whose name has been kept out yeah. Oh my
all rights in and how long did this take about forty five minutes?
five minutes. It was just boom boom 'cause. The old died really fast like that. That whole thing happened and then he was just with the body. Yet
it's so interesting. I mean again, it's not like b t k he's not really torturing the these people, while they're alive a mythic, it's a
No, he said this is a weak piece of shit. You piece of ship that just wants to total control over something. Also, if you look at the way, he's mutilating the bodies, it's very childish, it's very much like
kid with a knife, he does not understand sexuality at all. You remember that he was born impotent, like basically, he could not have sex with anyone up until this point or me, a guy God knows what he did on his own time in terms of like his master, Tory habits, but he was like was stunted
he was trapped in sort of a psychopathic version of a ten year old boy, and that had a knife and
playing with a body like he was a do.
Field, orphan and now he's just driving around, which is horrifying to think about this man behind behind the wheel of a car listening to Life FM, because you know what he is yeah, I love Kenny Loggins may have a good time driver, but like literally just like just driving back to the house in El Ranchero like well like because we do do do do do do do. I also really hope you didn't home a song while he was doing all those I mean at this point. I guess the flip
The switch is now off right. Yes,
as soon as it happens, it seems like because it gets in the car and it yeah goes back out. He he had back home all right. I guess the
Guess that's worrying where you go. I have this is where you want to go to school games. I don't know I wanted to go to jail immediately, which I guess is the next step here. Yeah absolutely see police,
they were at a loss. Of course. Now they of course knew that the same person who had killed Teresa Wallin it also committed the mass.
Here that it just occured on that Cold winter Morn, besides the obvious, the cops
also found, the same rings on the carpet next to the body, the same footprints prints through the blood- and
bullets from the same gun, but Richard in a
very telling move that spoke volumes about his sense of right and wrong, had worn rubber, gloves
so there were no fingerprints. Also. He had
the ranchero. What you're going to find out about that? That's like one little little detailing things that he dumps the ranchera 'cause, it's all within a mile around his apartment, he
don't sit in like a weird place, like a behind the that Meredith's house right where you'd like and it's parked across a bunch of parking lanes, he's not actually drive away from the house in his ranchero, he stole merited seller right. He drove it to a nother apartment, complex and parked it. He knew
What kind of surprise
recently saying in some ways I mean he had, as
or as a somewhat of a preparation for the crime. He had a little bit of foresight just enough. He had just enough to
cast a shadow of a doubt on the insanity defense like he, the fact that he wore gloves
shows that he made some effort to not get caught or he literally was like old.
Empires, wear gloves honestly, who knows where it'll pop and sucking it you know in scuba gear the whole time to who knows what he's doing he's. Just thinking like I gotta make sure to keep my guts inside my own body, just in case it doesn't jump into this dead woman's body who knows yeah an police had
also found Danny Meredith Car, but had nothing to link it to chase. However, they
later find out. The chase had abandoned the car, only a hundred yards away from his own front door,
I was kind of surprised. There was no trail of blood leading
via station wagon over into his apartment, because he was walking out with a bucket of blood and the
corpse of a baby under his arm right, but the baby was wrapped up apparently and then also the bucket. I mean, I guess
careful not to spill any blood? Also, you just put it on your upolstry, it's getting,
sing, a pollster, it's kind of like putting it on a coaster
so you don't know
we usually don't cover the hunt for the serial killer in our heavy hitter episodes in much detail because, frankly, most
it's a happy accident. These killers are even caught, but this right here this is top notch.
Please work and deserves to be recognized as such
yeah. I do this weekend and beyond. He was actually not that long in the fort, like he was like newer to the home.
Branch? Most of the guys on this case were either rookie detective for very new detect, and so a lot of I mean like there are. They all talked about the how they had to go into very deep therapy. After all, my god, yeah finding these crime scenes with like beyond
like following hunches and you were kept checking in with an older officer like friend of his which it sounds like a movie just got to be a movie of this. At some point I wish there were. I think there was I forget their give me of one may have been when there was a weird little thing that I saw call the psychopathic world of Richard Chase, which is seven minute movie done with Barbie dolls, not not a good movie, yes right and then he went in it. But there's there's something about this dude we like
went to the older officer was like this. Is I'm putting other this whole case, and I was like I have a hunch that is this Richard Chase Guy and he's like follow. Your gut is cool. Now with
no concrete leads Lieutenant Biondi decided to try something new. He had learned two,
earlier at a seminar hosted by the FBI. He decided to try psychological profiling using technique
we have learned in combination with crime scene evidence and a few hunches Biondi was.
Able to make these assumptions one, since
no witnesses in the suburban white neighborhood had remembered seeing any minorities walking around, as this was
Lee, the late seventies and people would have noticed Biondi. He assumed that the killer,
is why- and this is where racism works
in a strange way. It did it where it works and the only real, suspicious person who did show up in police reports was the skinny white fell
in his twenties, so it was safe to assume that that was probably their guy to be on thought that he was probably schizophrenic.
The attacks were extremely disorganized and occurred in daylight, with no real effort to
for the crimes. Besides, just the gloves and the crimes have been done,
with no real regard for witness,
people had seen him all day long. He was walking through peoples yards in that he had a fucking bright orange skyport covered in blood, going door to door, yeah yeah he had obviously broken from reality. I mean the person that you
Compare Richard Chase to is a another Richard Ricci, your marriage, very similar to Richard Ramirez. Yet Richard Ramirez is even more statistics. Regenerist was a lease
had his shit together a little bit more in his own head. Well, Richard Rameras wasn't schizophrenic know like he was just an asshole yeah. He was just peace shift, because Richard Chase was just obviously very, very sick, but also an asshole. When you combine the two perfect, you get a whole family dead yeah. Exactly now, three Biondi decided that
This guy was probably a loner unmarried, an and out of work. It was real,
that nobody would be able to live with or employ someone who is capable of this accurate plus the murders had occurred during regular work hours for the killer. Prob,
We have limited social skills and was no smooth. Talker EAST guys know game show home. He is a male with it so far, yeah because there was no prolonged interaction with the victims in the murders have been committed quickly, so the perpetrator could keep control of the city
way. He reasoned that the only way he was able to take any control of the situation was just shooting
a little spot, surprise them and shoot it yeah. Exactly and five. The perpetrator had probably been recent.
Be released from a mental institution due to the nature of the crimes they had also occured within a short period of time in one area suggesting that the perpetrator?
is a newcomer to the area Ding Ding Ding Ding, coming by for five, I got bud yep this profile Fit Richard Chase to at, and the FBI often holds up the chase case as the gold standard of a disorganized killer profile, and they take a lot of credit for that.
Only one problem, the FBI was not involved in this case. In the least
This is acrobat offices, Sacramento PD, but their ideas were in their their ideas for longer ideas that, but the FBI takes credit for solving the Richard Chase case. They take credit for the caller. They take credit for the arrest they did not
arrest they did not. They created methodology that led to the arrest. I understand why pay a little bit did. Are you coming down on the side of the FBI? I'm going to? I don't want changed, he's changed without the without that man going to the seminar and having the FBI, teach him about profile, and then maybe he would have gone there. Mentale and then
as one defense. If the teenage mutant ninja were to come and save me from the foot clan yeah, I would think Leonardo and not splinter. So
you know really is we have to think shredder?
they'd without today is there is no good guy the cycle,
Google profile helped it did help.
It by no means solve the case. There was a very a very, very, very
strong chance that they still would have caught Richard Chase.
Had they not had the psychological profile had they not use this, and I think it is a huge disservice to the Sacramento Police Department for the FBI to claim
their psychological profile led to the caps
this killer, because that's what they do. You read Robert wrestlers book. If you read a lot
of summations of this case, another serial killer books. They all imply that it was the FBI that caught this guy because of the cycle,
profile point. It was not the FBI at all. It was the Sacramento police already just give credit where credit is due, but this is also the common thing we talk about, with the reason why these crimes are in a busted more quickly, more often is be cause of the miscommunication between the higher levels of police department, San the local levels. It's like
'cause. They all are fighting for. Who gets credit. That's a lot of time why these
water slide through the cracks? Because nobody wants to share information for them because everyone wants the collar. Nobody wants to actually work together as a group, because that's where your funding comes from is what it is
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any one time there were over fifty cops canvassing neighborhoods asking about some suspicious persons.
In and again the same tall skinny filthy man in his 20s wearing an orange jacket came up, but according
beyond this was an extremely helpful in the search because, as we said earlier remember, this is California. In one thousand, nine hundred and seventy eight there were
how tall skinny, dirty guys, walking around Sacramento right
nevertheless there's literally like fifteen grateful dead cover.
It's just in the Sacramento area alone, yeah I mean Bill Walton, Phil Jackson, were they look the exact same in their professional basketball players, never the less. They were still able
to make a sketch and send it out.
They also knew that the killer had used a twenty two semi automatic, but the problem there lied in the
but twenty two semi automatics were among the most popular guns sold at the time and were in fact known for their reputation as murder, weapons, lucky break cans when Richards High,
score friend, Nancy Hold and the one who Richard had harassed and possibly planned to kill at the supermarket on the day of the wall and myrrh
told her police officer, father in law, about the incident after seeing the sketch of the scraggly stranger so sad, he was just having a Dawson's creek.
Moment with Nancy, and that's the thing that made all things fall apart he's doing all he wanted to ask her was I wish that you were the one to ask me out on the Sadie Hawkins thing, since she wanted to ask him out now beyond the started, looking into chase specifically 'cause as interest earlier, he had one hell of a hunch and found that chase had a concealed weapon arrest on his record
twenty two, which alone would have been enough for them to look into it that he had spent
I'm in a mental institution where he was described as a violent patient and they uncovered the bloody incident at Pyramid Lake. So really, if you look at it, yes, as far as the
file goes really. The only thing that actually fits that they actually have in the the check in was that he spent time in a mental institution. They can see
the address for the twenty two and the blood incident at Pyramid Lake. That alone is enough for them to look into it. So it's the second yes sort of look at it from the fucking beginning he should've been connected with what happened? Did you just turn into the honeymooner? I just get like it's like what the hell is whenever the Honeymooners Ralph Ralph Kramden just turn it over, and I just don't really understand how a man, just you know, had a bucket of guts driving around saying I'd rather be flying. I know I'm surprised, he's able to get away at all, but yes interested now detectives
were Richard lived, drove over and knocked on the door, Richard didn't answer, but they were certain that he was inside '
not wanting to code home
your home, your home, not
wanting to compromise the scene by entering without a warrant the officers made up.
Big show of acting like they were going to leave and come
There is a lot of theater there, a guy with coconuts like that, like Monty Python Kind,
drive away, we're going to the burger king and no one would you like Burger king from from from
hide behind the bushes. They were there. They were waiting around the corner of the building, just catch up with Annette. With any luck he's a cartoon yeah. They waited for him to emerge and sure enough. Just a few minutes later chase walked outside carrying a cardboard box. The cops yelled stop come back here. Chase
through the box at one of the officers and whole rush of uh
bloody pieces of paper flew out of a cardboard box. That's all that was inside with little bloody pieces of paper vampire pin chase.
in one direction as one cop was chasing and the other cop came around the corner and back
system in the head with his gun.
Immediately fell to the ground. The cop thought that he had killed the guy, but when he went down
put the cuffs on him. Richard started
struggling around, and this is when that, like the cop was like holy, should I couldn't get it. I couldn't get ahold of the guy one last dance, and so this is this: is the final scene of horror film? You think it killed a monster. It turns out. You didn't yeah and
popsicle it the entire time Richard was trying to reach into his jacket to try to get the gun out. So we shoot up your shoot this guy in the head yeah, but he was trying he was trying to get the call like he was trying to actually a red and yellow couldn't get to his own gun. While he was trying to hold Richard down the arresting officer had a really nice interview moment where he said I was pulling. The I was the the guy that actually rested Richard Chase was was chasing him
originally thought. When I see this guy, I'm going to pull up my gun, I'm going to shoot him and kill him, but he said no
very last minute
kill him. Then I'm I'm like him yeah and I don't want to be like him- will only be cuts up the corpse and drinks his blood with the extreme version. Okay, yeah I mean this is actually some of these are some pretty good copyright. You lie down, and so they finally got the hand cuffs on Richard Chase. They searched him in his back pocket. They found Danny Meredith's wallet in the shoulder. Holster was the twenty two semi automatic most disturbingly, though also found pictures of Jason and Evelyn near off in his pocket that Richard had taken from their house after the murder. When cops finally got a warrant for Richard's apartment,
they discovered a scene that is it's exactly his apartment is exactly what you'd expect. It can't believe. He had track lighting disgusting. How tasteless almost everything in the apartment with stained with either dried blood or fresh blood,
down to a loaf of french bread that was sitting
on the couch next to his blood soaked sleeping bag.
Thought it was marinara sauce. I guess so. There were small bits of bone in the kitchen and in the fridge they found the body parts of animals on dishes and human brain tissue stored in a container she's in a blender was badly stained and smelled of rotting.
Slash. Well, that's where I always thought. I think the one thing I like about like watching very serial killer, like kind of like kind of slapped together, documentaries, the
every single time. I I've watched her knees, all the ones that are like ten to twelve minutes long. When are they talking to Richard Chase the cut to a clip or
of a runner drinking, a smoothing which I think is like bad press remove rose it's just as it is bad press for the smoothing. What do you think your blender guy bent or you, but you were a boy- was a blender. You broke your blender yeah. My blender broke his I put ice in it yeah, not human corpse was you can just throw rabbits into a blender all day long, but you put ice in there and it's going to break it so really over using this blender. I guess I was. I was not nearly as nice as Richard Chase was with his wonderful blender, apparently babies or soft. It is disgusting to think about him just jamming whatever he jammed into that blender it so strange, and then he just goes and eats a bunch of french bread.
Watch television, definitely would have been a very morbid commercial yeah. They also found anatomy textbooks health magazines.
A marked up psychology, article titled under
stimulation a classified section with all the ads for dog circled in a spiral notebook. Then he should know that inside the notebook, which is
count constant drawings of mash. You know that game that childhood game. I don't no matter what I thought you meant NASH, like that, like there were pictures of radar elevation showing all they are normally lol in all there's a good guy. I love him so much
wonder. If he's got enough blood in him, he looks like he does. He does I'm sure the notebook was filled with handwritten notes and drawings of guns, obscene images and swat
'cause as well as translations of german words. That's why
thing that we didn't cover about Richard Chase and NEO Nazi. Oh, he thought Nazis were after him, yes
He don't know he wasn't. Jewish. He thought nazis were putting radios in his soap like there was like. I was a part of that his mom was in line with them that they were. She was. She was selling him out. He was obsessed with not yet, and the Nazis were working in conjunction with the ciuffo
Ciufo UFO interests unidentified flying objects like this are calling it the full name, buffo. No one page had Richard signature. Twelve
nice yeah, and I did that as a kid yeah you practicing. When he's a celebrity, you know I did the two of you know practice my signature made. This is glad you're cool Mister Richard dread cool. No, besides all the Gore and the carnage, the most disturbing thing cops found was a calendar. Now, on the day,
it's of the wall and an Myrath murders. Richard had written the word today. He had written the same word on forty four more dates:
in the coming year and he's done it twice and who knows when the next one would have come, so he so. This shows that
chase, did have some plan
he did it wasn't just that he woke up that day and said today is the day I'm going to kill. He planned the
say he was going to go out and kill it. It really wasn't like Tuesday is magazine day. Wednesday is dog day here today, so we heard a version of the secret, but you now have a script. Have like a like a schedule supervisor. Here I mean it's like he wasn't handed this schedule down. He made this schedule lineup to clock in or anything. No, I think. That's the best part about being a vampires that you're also an entrepreneur. So did he self identify as a vampire? No, he didn't care about. No point was he did he pretend to be a vampire? No just was
No not yet. He just he just was a vampire. No, he didn't go around saying I'm a vampire. I don't need a you know. I need blood to survive. He thought that he needed
because he was losing his blood. It was like the the disorder that we were talking about and
the last episode where you know they believe that certain body parts are missing. There are some serial killers who believe that they are vampires
that you know they are closer to like VLAD dry cool. Richard really didn't give a about any that's up. He was obsessed with anatomy and not to easily that's also read Dracula, that's kind of cool, then, because then he was like the real punks versus pop punk. You is for real yeah he's like a yeah. He is definitely like a a pro yeah higher all right. So let us know what happened to this guy. They got him alive. Yes, the Richard chases insanity defense was rejected by a jury and on
Eight one thousand nine hundred and seventy eight chase was found
guilty and sentenced to death. Also, while he was in jail, there's too little tidbits one was that when he would lie in the cells when the trailers come by
We would hide under the covers and then pop out going. So you would like make like weird little noises when he played peekaboo. Yes with the jailers and then also when he got it
Of course, his reputation preceded him and because he was a baby killer, all of the people on death row would collect jars of urine. They would piss in a cup San gay,
get it to the guy closest to his cell to
flash it all over Richard Chase, while he laid in bed, that's just kind of a fun. That's that's a jailhouse game. Yeah they get very comfortable with their own place. It's called the apple juice pass yeah yeah! That's
happens. When you sit in the same room that you sleeping but isn't that something that chase would enjoy now he wasn't a pee pee, poo poo guy. Ok, I mean he
I like to pee pee poo poo, but I don't think he like to smear itself. People she likes smelling, yeah, it's just that it doesn't anyway alright. So I got pretty far, but this is even ingesting too much for Maine now Chase would not meet his end in the gas chain
as the state intended on the day after Christmas.
One thousand nine hundred and eighty Richard Chase
by his fellow inmates, took a handful of
depressants that he had been hoarding from his daily dose and die.
On death row from toxic ingestion of fate.
Good wait. Wait actually kind of I mean never do that, but not not the worst.
He does not. He did not deserve a peaceful death
This guy was real fucked up
shuffle all right. Well, wow Richard Chase Great research interest
to say the least. I guess keep your doors
yeah, I think, there's literally one thing you can learn from this is that this happens like this.
It's very scary- is extremely extremely rare that it happened. Lock your doors yeah, I just let. Let's all we can say it lock your doors, the Boogie man isn't necessarily real. This is extremely rare. Don't keep.
Don't let yourself stay up at night thinking about Richard Chase, but I'll make sure you're welcome back doors lock, I don't. How did he die
consuming all animal blood and in other peoples, blood does not kill you. He got. He did get blood poisoning at one point yeah it would ship from it from injecting from injecting it yeah eat organ meat. All the time in my blood is thick and strong and healthy. I know you're not healthy, healthy yeah, but have you seen it like? I mean people eat weird shit and they survived. Have you ever seen that guy on Youtube, his names like shoe man eats the sticks of deodorant generation, alcoholic yeah he's just a raging alcoholic, but he survives feature could order now humans are very adaptable, yeah writes Richard Chase. Anything can be food. I guess so. I guess so and of course thank you to Christina the psychology expert, Anne Megan for sure yeah. Definitely, thanks to Christina Yeah Christine exists Tina, and let me ask you question: what's your address like do you like, where we do that? Ninety four thousand three hundred and forty six just numbers, those are just numbers
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