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Episode 262: L. Ron Hubbard Part II - Dianetics

2017-03-15 | 🔗

We're getting into the foundations of Scientology this week as well as Laffy's disastrous love affairs and the insane caper involving Hubbard kidnapping his own daughter. 

Heartbreaking Kevin MacLeod (incompetech.com)

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Unseen Horrors Kevin MacLeod (incompetech.com)

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This is an unofficial transcript meant for reference. Accuracy is not guaranteed.
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oh, are a tool which is the only way I'm to our own, our age than you are you're. Stuck there certainly worm their way into your fuckin brain now. Lafayette, Hubbard, a name and attend, say you're out of your name, is Henry the burning centres about being ok, Laughing himself, Latvia could have train that aged man to be the first aid and president which were not going to sea till twenty forty eight hour. You knows what it can happen, all right, so we're onto L Run Hubbard part to this. Is
we're getting more intense, she's gettin crazier in crazier. Yes, he is not following his biggest wedding to Sarah Northrop, bigger him bigger males. Are you seriously in the star with that earnings Hubbard moved with his new bride to California and continued his scheme of bilking money from the Navy by faking various injuries and ailment, then you'll need a college degree to get that job, how you can just fake anything, but the debasement he had put himself through in order to carry out this scam. Please
the shame of a less than stellar naval career, combined with the disintegration of his first marriage and put him in a bit of a low play when you say less than stellar naval career, you are talking about him, wasting a huge amount of ammunition on a magnetic deposit. Yes, this is a matter for the dollar and only the hindmost, almost starting a war with Mexico. Yes less than stellar ere, I don't know if that's true, and since he was a low place, the affirmations were borne out. This is the core of the magical power of L run harboured now. This is true. Now remember, as it is a case magician if your practising chaos magician anything, do, has replication replication of the universe right. You can ramifications, shut up repercussions on rapid nail. Our aid is made up of fifteen letter word for God in Dianetics, which I read a hundred eighty pages of on the plane yesterday. So I think a little no, I know a little bit about some about words. What is that
Ten letter word for God gave. I literally eight is that I will say thank e f g h for four or five. It's like a letter. I will write it out. I'll put, it makes no sense to support of how a lackey he's with reality, I'm so he has been lying about these he's not a lot of some of the targeting of if the OECD, the same thing, which I give you gotta make a lie about something never make it about somebody. You love, never say like somebody got hurt or that's why I asked why I can't do X Y feature because you're putting bad karma there right. So he has been building up this fake persona themselves as an injured person, so he knew there on the inside. He had to write himself in a part of that was used. Essentially match queries or what you'd say are like. Wouldn't you when you state my intention in a ritual he, you did these in his own journals young now the acclamations were essentially the other half of what would become Dianetics along with Excalibur, which was this
manuscript. That was so amazing. It made people either lose their minds or killed himself like a new, Duke Newcomb Game than ever came out came out and it was terrible. That's not! The affirmations, though, were nowhere near as dramatic and were much more private. Then Excalibur. They were essentially proclamations about himself, so he could feel better. About the low state of life he found himself an for example. He would simple generalised statements like I can write my mind is still brilliant and I M not bad to look upon of what jerk me always really know he's not positive ion self centered self. Meanwhile self the maniac eighty to exercise it works. If you buy journal and right good shit about yourself in it useful to believe it begs to make it better
people in solitary confinement do don't hang themselves of the bed. She exactly, but then you write a formidable getting your own duking by besides, is generalised statements. There were also a lot of very personal statements. For example, I am fortunate for losing Polly and my parents, for they never meant well by me fortunate, you might be the lucky ones that
last formation actually held quite a bit of weight at this time for Ronald as his family had all but disowned him for abandoning his wife, Polly Anther, two children, even his aunts, who had once loved him. So much said he spent a stranger to us now go ahead. What he's done he's a pick, his discuss alternatives will that's not right get. He just abandoned his entire family. You have every right to aid for greater pastures body feline earlier about why he had done is after he had married Sarah Northrop. He went back to Montana and tried to live there for a little bit, while is ex wife and children were living with his grandparents. Also something in a magician slash psychopath would do you show up and just be like this reality now we're all gonna pretend like this is fine, but his family like well. Maybe that's your reality, but our reality is that we have been raising your children for you you out here. You need to show the back up and where's. Your fucking ash seems like you're making all this money. You shop, release fancy clothes, which is he just been spending robbing Peter to pay Paul this entire time tat. His wife eventually divorced him on grounds of desertion, and when he went back with Sarah Montana, he would not see them again until his mother's death and even then he
and even stay around for the funeral. His wife divorced him. For the same reason, the beau bird dolls in prison mean it's like unbolt. Desertion is, though, as the saddest thing, I've ever had a wife at the divorce or dead, beat husband for you. Ten years for take this job and shoving break some Schaefer into this. Why not so the acclamations were set out in choruses course. One included the aforementioned statements as well as more bizarre things like my magical workers, powerful, an effective the numbers, seven, twenty five and sixteen, or not on lucky or evil. For me, man starvation was no sooner crime. I do I need to have also anymore yet the guy out of Scientology git him off of your walls and things like that. Just put him in the quarter, playin scratch, often the bar, that's who he is also a little hole. If, as is the thing about this, that means these are things that here, starting to believe guy
did. He was very obviously he's very sick, but he obviously was having trepidations about the numbers: seven, twenty five and sixteen and he's jerk off quite best when I I'm guilty at all are guilty of that here. There are these little small delusions that he has made to have. Also anymore, I don't need to do is get kick him to the network. The authors line brings us right in due course to which deal with his imaginary health problems. As well as his let's say, unhealthy attitudes towards sex concerning his health, he had believed in his nonexistent injury, so heavily that he was essentially having to deep programme himself from them. After faking afoot, injury, he wrote the injury is no longer needed? All is well. You have perfect and lovely feet. He recalled pull gonna Kevin spacey from usual suspects or something yet yes up like that also is. Does it have? I can get
Don t you. I've never seen a picture of him without use on yeah. He does I'd have lovely feet now. I've met her into you. He doesn't another affirmation said your stuff a trouble you used as an excuse to keep the navy from punishing you. You are free of the Navy. I think you can feel good stomach trouble. You think so, yeah yeah I'm nervous or get all nodded up earlier through with you think, I'm sick. I believe it s, always a good trip to your run, a bus and you want to sit alone on a boss, especially greyhound bus, always pretend like your super super sick. The accidental yeah this Devils my bones. It's very do difficult to be the picture of perfect health when on a bus. This is what he wrote about sex. You have no fear of what any woman may think of your bed conduct. You know your master, you know they'll be thrilled. You
calm many times without weariness. Many women are not capable of pleasure and sects and editing adverse they say or do as no effect. Whatever upon your pleasure, I guess I do get a site. Given the physical, of L Run Hubbard. That makes that statement disgusting but think about it. If sting said that endangers the answer, exactly if ya not absolutely not to multiple or get all know, tantric sex, you hold it for one bigger you all on bed when tanker could be very damaging. I got snakes, Heaven cuplike organs, the aim of this is the opposite of Tantric, so I gave the opposite is interesting for further away the board disturbing because he's just such a dumpy little toad person, it's like more like its wits. Bad. If it came remember, inaugurated only be worse. If it came from like whole coke. Well, holster can do anything to me. He also wrote you have no fear if they conceive what if they do, you do not care,
Lord into them alive, decide. Yeah does how good you look in that one into it. I don't need a Jimmy and I don't need no net for my spur. My black, the flying lenders down use also utterly incompletely obsessed with masturbation, which seems to be an almost universal preoccupation amongst caught leaders. I dont know why, but the Guys are all obsessed with jerking off you gotta get out, you gotta get it I gotta get it. I guess so, yes, but some guys they get it out too much day. Bird got it out way way too much and was a showcase sahara. Didn't get it out enough? What it is they require sort of a lack of self control, doesn't mean them. One of the first things you learn is you know, that's not to touch
yourself in public or do those things when your kid, but like these guys, just don't even that is don't care just be different if you macerated all the time and you didn't feel super guilty about it, but he obviously did. I believe you don't feel guilty by mass really like. I just wanted to talk to you about masturbating, announcing that the problem is the Guild us off the best of it, bus. Will you haven't somebody with a stomach ache? That's your thing: that's a crime This is where you wrote about that. Masturbation does not injure or make you and say your prayers. Inshore and era. Every one mass debates look around you up you're right. Man, everyone is good. Europe cannot now you'll start Ella now I'll do it do
personal goal section of the affirmations, he would mention it again by just saying simply, you do not masturbate, and this is in the same section that he wrote. Snakes are not dangerous to you. They are no snakes in the bottom of your back. I don't care what Grover's said. I know there's a bond sir, at the end of this book, and I do not want to complete the book and you don't have to complete the boy very Freudians with his with his love of snakes. Oh he's, all by right now affirmations also show rare moments of self awareness that I think are very important to understanding I'll run hovered about his exaggeration of his past and present life. He wrote you can tell the romantic tales you wish You know which ones are lies you haven't off real experience to make anecdotes forever. Stick to your true adventures. It is done necessary for you to lie to be amusing and witty. Now what This tells us is that halberds line was compulsive and he was well aware of it.
Fortunately, instead of trying to fix it, he doubled down because no matter how much over charlatan he was Hubbard was you gotta admit a brilliant man. Yes, of course, lean in always Lena area. What he did was he turn that weakness of compulsive lying into a strike. He wrote The wave of his ever growing see a bullshit, manipulating people into believing him until either he was done with them, or they were done with him, after which he would do his best to utterly destroy them. Well- and I watched this documentary last night, my Scientology movie by Louis throw a Frenchman and it was very interesting. They focused a lot on that people who excommunicated from the church only hell. They really get the treatment rough, the asp as they should be. Well, I don't know what it's very necessary to him, keeping the lie going
because when you have a de facto there, of course trying to get other people inside out, so you have to destroy these people in order to keep your power it all the more people who believe in your lie gives the lie more power, the more true the lie becomes. Did you watch that Tom Cruise speech on Scientology? He laughs through that entire part discussing s pcs, literally just just talking about destroying life's yet Israel
Believe me, because they think it s Pisa, literally lower people when you did but would later on. We get this ideology: environment, Espies, Sykes, specifically what s peace are suppresses. Personalities do a lot of we're going to do a lot as not all Cubans Father was declared, and s p, which is one of the reasons why her and Tom cruise his marriage fell apart. No gonna make it far and away with good, because I was far and away the answer that I gave the same fuck yeah when next to each other days of thunder. That was a good one and always made me want to drink mountain. Do I just mellow, yellow, yellow, oh yeah, I always mellow Yellowthroat goes like it's a mountain. Do contrary mother, you can also tell im really affirmations that Hubbard was starting to ramp up to something huge. He just haven't figured out just what it was yet key road air cycle, energy is advanced and true and wonderful, it hypnotize people
predicts their emotions, for you are their ruler, and this was a years before dying x, which is the book that truly launched his career and would be the foundation. The all Scientology would be built upon. He just needed to perfect one more trick to pull it off hypnotism now, This is where it gets. Kooky visual gets going up any others. Hypnotism think that sounds goofy. That sounds cookie epoch in, this is a scale that he would take throughout his life and use on people again and again and again in order to get back into the world of Jack Parsons. Here Jack persons taught L Run Hubbard a lot about what it takes to get people under your wink at an this information, because a portable that the third course of the animations talks about him content his guardian angel spirit, and so in that he's endured
contact with a red, haired woman, it's beautiful that it too tells him all the truth that he needs to know, and only he can see her and you can see that those a are cold teachings now a door directly fuelled what Dianetics, whereby we realise yet do is figure it out a trick them of the human brain. Would shake. Something like hypnotists. Italy disproves religion too. By the way his guardian angel would be like a fat slob who is eaten a chick fillet in the corners covered in Greece. As a beautiful woman now say to you, laughing Congrats did not turn to yourself this afternoon. I thank you all you still you're Goin Ed, Do it anyway, you congrats fertile, be any of the intruder. You're, so scream, so yeah Ellen Herbert been taught it isn't by Jack Parsons, but he needed to find a group. That was willing to participate, so we can truly perfect scale
Luckily, the nerves at the LOS Angeles science fantasy society were all too willing to revise Vulcan guys remembered them. The group of kids, I played magic with right. It's like I see it's the same crew, it's like we had one joint using windows gave similar to the group of adults that you play magical now. Those who argue that now, tactically those guys it's deity and technically they are all professional committee. Put it she's, always like you could see. The same crew is like a fat little job as witness my friend Jeff, using a ganglia jewish, do with Fuckin, with buck teeth and braces and guiding porphyry with. We would like all without weird patches, silver hair. No one will talk dam and silent indian boy with any luck. Gold, nicknamed the unforgettable, not surprisingly Hubbard, was a fantastic hypnotists and could put some people into a trance by counting the three and snapping his finger. One two three
oh, my god, I'm in the four their meant that the weakest minds he could hypnotize almost instantly in one of those. Week. Minds was a guy named Bill Cox after one. That is what it is. We call you really Cox. From now on. You love the Nick One hypnotism session harboured privately look bill aside and told them that at two o clock the next day bill would up whenever he was doing and meet Hubbard on the corner of Wilshire Lucas. When Bill arrived. He found the key could not busy Please take his hands out of his pockets until Hubbard. Let us stop figures. He just wanted a friend so bad yeah. Now after that win
hubbard, finally allowed him to remove his hand over command him to grab a metal rail which Hubbard made bill believe was getting progressively harder and harder and a psychosomatic or not. The pain caused bill to scream in fear until Hubbard laughed patted him on the shoulder and send him home what a get out of here. Www Cox will be the only hope. Pull you touch on your life ever found with a view to see what what did you mean by that last stay one through three european not salty gave its very. This is my question. He did this the berries members of this size, I grow period, hypnotize them and they pulleys pranks neural, laugh and unlike in about it, so I ve never been hypnotized. I don't know what it's like. I actually don't know if I can be hypnotized, because I'm so loud inside of my own brain can happen. They will not get me well, I mean
closest thing I ever had been hypnotized, we would go for these evangelical retreats in the pastors doo doo spell Baidu yeah and on a movement of speaking and tongs is an extremely had not really really really. Only when you remember thereby giving two gb give em, I haven't had bowed ass, Charles Man, market havin, fun measures funded, but and then I did get the push over when the touch you when you're had you fall backwards. That did happen. Yeah and you do can, I would argue, with more going with the flow, then being hit it As my yes, though, I do understand the power a little bit, but I wonder if that IRAN is just has so much power in this group of nerves, and I love than we do. One of the best parts about about groups are friends of nerdy guys like this diverse support, and I almost wonder if they're all in on this game because they used to do Ass old Tom. You talk about when our own would show up, and he would tell them. These fantastic stories Bureau will be like one guy who's like
So how old you are you on a hundred eighty, four years old and all round there was at one time once I faltered, got, kicked out of the group and l runs on me like I'm worried. However, talking about is this like, while he says you, you said he spent eight years of an eighty and then he said you sport trainer, and then you went to Africa and then he traveled all of these in uninhabited island of you that debt, if you add up all those years, that's like eighty four years, and so they get kicked him out, but everyone else's like the game of it, while they like the game at first, because it first the hypnotism stuff was like really fun like one guy. He made him made him believe that he was holding two tiny kangaroos in his hands. You find another time he made a guy, they think he was having a phone argument with a really pushy used car salesman, fast, stressful Jabez, that Strasbourg, like ok, that's so kind of fun, though
this hot rail incident. They only found out pottery, always a porno actual roses. Financial cash in five years, when they found out about this when they started doing regression, because there was one guided said that he was visited by IRAN hovered in some sort of like Astral, direction, and it was very unpleasant form. So, though, like see if he's been doing anything else, so they started doing this like posted this hypnotic regression on Bill Cox, and they had not been this thing that he done because built because at the end of this ethnic ism errant on, like you will not remember any of this- and he didn't, he didn't say anything to anyone. It wasn't until they did this like posted, not a regression, but they found out what error it actually done. There like that
Bon citizen acquainted this kind of amazing all these guys. It is immediately the only authors who like what, if he's been hit and all of us know in El Rendre shows back up in like a bore his eyes, even sandwiches and they'll, just like stared at him, when the devil inhibitor also gives them a reverse power on the because now he it's really interesting. When you start that an end again, I think that EL run Hubbard did that on purpose down where he's like. Now there are their whole realities and down all the time. Yet and now even more powerful. Now you and now he's a truly becoming like a powerful magician in this small little world. Yet in this small little world, which eventually expands into the entire world, this is where it all began to all begins with the laws, Angeles fantasies, science club at a level and it led to Stuarts Molly.
Really interesting good, not be smart guy with areas like always a congressmen, Senator rather January of nineteen. Forty nine Hubbard announced in a magazine called writers, markets and methods that key was working on a book of psychology, he was working right, alongside pop five by stories like beyond the black nebula and emperor of the universe, is great- and I mean they're all listen to some these names. He did for Westerns gun boss of tumble, we awesome and what this one is as great Johnny, the town tamer ear naughty naughty down, and I might teach I'm a teach you how to behave. Naughty Stevie, given back in your body, naughty tat, Germany, the town tamers out so far, because the horses were bad now, like Joe you'll, be a good horse here, naughty sheriff of Nottingham Goodness, but
Those stories only paid a penny, a word nowhere near enough for harbour. In fact, he openly said this in a meeting of sigh fire writers. Writing for a penny. A word is ridiculous: if a man really wanted to make a million dollars the best way to do it would be to start his own religion he said in a room full of people, any said that again and again and again and again, Dub Bear faced Messiah by Russell Miller. I found at least four examples when the people have remotely set because Billy it so funny that he went on to do it would just like on guys he gave you the thesis statement. Since he was like a toy twenty one years old. I would love to see him on shark tank just
for investors to his religious, involve some people start to talk or drug to make money right right to religion were when he was working on this book around this time he wrote a letter to his publisher, his agent, somebody like very Ackerman, YAP, Boring Ackerman and he was like. I haven't, decided whether I'm going to destroy the catholic Church and build a new one is like a goddess. Stop at our aid Jamaican may laugh, so I join reaction at huge pants for echo. Mozilla right he's a very famous presence in the world of science. I worry he was like he was one of the first like super fancy was he was a horror host and he was a weird weird apart.
Of his three and pop culture that he was a well run. Herbert's, fucking book age. Will wars pants obey, whereas was your big guy or small guy? Big pay, those like skinny guys but looks real real big, because we're bake, PAN Subdues, Nepal's o tall pants high pants sure now the fact that a popular side by writer was working on. A new sort of psychology was extremely exciting sigh fans who are starting a little smug about their own place in society, they believe since I firefighters had been predicting future technologies and their stories for years that it would only be a matter of time before one of them would create a science all of their own. Like believe we are going to save the world. Sigh five is the most important literary advancement in the history of man, because we will save the universe or the first thing we're gonna do is we're gonna get food
Everybody all gonna end slavery. That society can usefully absolute ferment. Us react fabulous both the third thing that actual need to combat, All of that is that I'm writing this book about intergalactic speed wishes that run everything with their orgasm muscles agreed a middle led character. His dick is so strong, tiny kind of looks like a fat little man with a bearing on not unlike myself and his dick who control the universe, cautious, how thick he can come here. So after we make Captain Cock pilot, then that we get flew to everyone and we followed until we get to ends. Yes, who should feed the slaves first right will then make not leave it at that should be you. Do you want to write this? First? Absolutely not orbs in it. Ok,
I called you was perfect for this new science because you didn't need all that bothersome math or physics, or anything like that in order to do it, and this right here was extremely important to the initial success of dianetics, not saying that he didn't include a couple equations Dianetics, I didn't really did make no sense, because he was also used also telling people that he was a Fuckin nuclear physicist Anna. Why? I think one person said that they read some of his papers on nuclear physics and they said it was like an undergrad students who have paid attention to one lecture and then try to write a graduate thesis here. That's about that describes as life. Pretty perfectly down will apparently to him there's their several stories have built up the nuclear physicist level where it started with the eye
The four directives came when he died on the operating table during an explosion when he was fighting in the theatre of or Japan would she did? I do know on what he said in a vision and he died and he whether he had he had died in the operating table. You went to Heaven. He saw the tones of all knowledge, sorted, reading them and then all of the hand of faded self came its. It is not time yet outlawed and threw him back into his body and then that more for that that came he was in the hospital for a long period of time. He said that while he was a convalescing in a hole in the hospital, he would go reed. Nuclear physicist tat like textbooks and psychology textbooks and my basically prison educated himself while in a hospital and then the next one is. I was
nuclear sites, like that call, you have on your radio, show the other David said that he went to the university of you to universe, even when he wrote down the intelligence of the races work, a Fox news, radio, you get some really interesting opinions, Youtube universally self educated in every way, just like L run Hubbard these sigh five fans water to believe so bad that one of their own was going to create something which that would truly, in the world and as far as they were concerned, Hubbard was the perfect guide to do it, Hughes and X,
or a war hero, a DARE devil pilot. Had the look here, the calf s, he was everything they wanted to be, while still being one of them at the same time. You know what I mean. I know what you're saying he was. He was able, like we were talking about with as wealthy grandfather but out working class. Dad issues like getting Mcnally, Lindsey added any Ella side by community will bring it in line sandy every five years and still, I think it's in Houston. Now I went out a new order. I didn't Jeremy Lin still as the number one jersey sales by the web really because people in China just but they buy em up, they lay up. All other, because also they fashion homes out who wins sanity, and these guys these sites, fire writers. They were perfectly manipulated into thinking that IRAN Hubbard, was actually going to deliver on all this sea dianetics. Wherever whereof, we heard that before yeah
lot parallels between our dot RON and, what's going on in the United States right now, as we get further and further on, like you start here about all this shit like wow Like it just tactics, lobbies, topics just work again and again and again full people. You can put it this way. So we keep forgetting that excellent way. Alighting right merely we'll just forget that it works in a really said: it's been this way since the beginning of this year on trees, hold country was built on bullshit yeah, like some of us are, and it all envelope bullshit and it happens to everybody, does not matter who is debt as Dianetics Scientology? All this stuff is started by super small people. Just look what happened with modern country music. They tell us it's good dynamic. First tee's in the December, one thousand nine hundred and forty nine issue of astounding science fiction, in which the editor wrote that a fantastic new science was soon to debut. In its pages he wrote
or is elbows unbelievable proves the bide. Not only guy about does rule the body globally Leon I die of just Where did hives about it learns may nuclear weapons dinner then I dont think larger, incredibly dangerous. Why are we keys? Also nerves are great and their sweet and their enthusiastic. I dont know what we want to jocks really do other than certain things that are addressed, but for the programme, what jogs re, but you know that, so we don't know, there's no evidence about the chest club. I dont need evidence, Donald Drop, em Ellen, opposite. I don't eat evident how well it does it score.
Doubts and they shoot they may dunks. In April, the hype got even bigger the editor road that this new technique of psychotherapy would cure insanity, which is contagious by the way, not hereditary you, fuckin idiot. In reality, I don't really know where those weird chinese face: mass around Marcus, surgical, malthusian grams and also the techniques could also give a man a perfect memory and a higher I q. It will also not just alleviate but completely cure all of the most common nerd diseases like allsorts scientists. I scientists Idas an asthma. Would it is interesting because they're all stuff that EL run suffered from the same team could he said that he was blind in a hospital woman of means.
It came out, he had used the principles of Dianetics to heal himself, so tat. It was I problems, feet and limb problems because he said he problems with his foot a serious problems with ulcers and he's using Dianetics. He fix all that in his body, because it's all in the minds of the power of positive thinking, exactly and since nerds demand evidence it at all been tested. It was claimed that overtook him. Fifty people having cured using this new text is a sound of quotation. Marks, a scrap yard yeah. No one of those people was a man named John Campbell, one of birds, earliest followers Campbell was a man of science and appreciated Hubbard, so called scientific approach to the Mai because he needed scientists. They held verify everything you sergeant Healy stated a guy on the payroll gathering attach the book. So we called up this guy me and I think a good fix your problems with through my mind and again, the scientists are not very impressive people
globally, are impressive beer scientists, but not to not impressive, like in a room. Ellen Hubbard with man of character and class is a man. I will obviously feeling matters are already saying. I know I'm just a rolling stone in this way. Can I get age homes days which, like in a room of the most impenetrable thick suspenders nerds, is you can forget how to talk ass, an have flame and red air. Like I also did the boy, you can keep a bunch of earth tension shoring up tract of guy. You know in a meeting with people who were previously did do the math or something else doesn't make me a try to make yourself a ten and whatever situation around, I suppose so that Hubbard compared the human brain to a computer and which one could recall and erase memories using a form of hit knows which Robert Anton Wilson officially of disputes and destroys in his book Prometheus rising, which look if you're, really true student of magical thing, yes, or if you want to have a good relationship, don't don't worry?
What is it, though, with these science minds right, I mean, obviously there really intellectual, but then there so dumb and ignore look like Steve Jobs, for example, not having not not going the medical rout forget surgery or for his answer. What they wanted to be technical live aid. They don't want they wanted to. They want to understand it because the human brain is the one thing that we still don't understand. We understand so very little about how the mind actually works, but also its again It boils down to the simple as its packaging. One a naughty looking thing right here I mean look at me ray I like creepy shit. You could sell me on anything. If you put a broad creepy should honour all cool or nice- oh my god, but take it up
I am able I mused agreement for years and years. I solely rented movies based on the cover, goes like I watched Jack Frost, a lot that cover with cause or because the snow man melted into a monster. Yet why do you think well of evil dead too? So because it's the coolest Fucking Oppose movie poster whatever they want allies night melodic last night Billy, I bet oh now Campbell would be one of the first test subjects in what would eventually become auditing, which we'll get you into more in depth later. Campbells first session. He was guided further and further back into his memory, resurrecting long forgotten events along the way until he had finally arrived at the moment of his birth. Somehow this didn't Campbell sign aside, is almost completely clearing up or he said and so junkie,
What became hovered first big booster new, I'm he hypnotized him centrally on visual lies in this southern movie. Get out. Catherine Keener is so awesome. They do a hypnotism seen in that it. So is ass. That's from thinking about now. Yet now after him converted Campbell wrote about his experience to Doktor Joseph Winner, who was a general practitioner. He was an actual MD who contributed medical articles. Two astounding cipher. I wish this magazine was still around like a thing like this was still already have you ever got ahold of an old like fifties, Paul magazine inflict their fuckin awesome, there's so much balk at that shit. You're going into a doctor, you, you gotta get a tumor removed. You find out he's off sigh fire writer. Nobody's gonna side by rider. He contributes medical article Suicides Fiction magazine. Skeezer fungi stone over would trust him with a knife in my skin at first convinced winner decided to test the method on his six year old son,
just come up with a fear of ghosts which he believed were constantly lying in, wait to strangle and, as you know what I'm never going to tell my kid. That's not true. We like yes or no sorrow real and they will strangle you, and I will tell you one thing: all women leave. I heard there is a cool lies in the fridge for adult your father, one guy you're going view as is covered at all. Yet you do want to anger to go. She likes to coerce lies through on the child, described the goals. They were found to look like doctors and surgical gowns, and so using this method. They eventually traced the fear back to the sun's difficult birth and which the umbilical cord was wrapped around his neck Freud. By exposing a painful past experience, they found that the boys fear of the dark had disappeared so winner, figured there must be some of his new science and so he joined
to fully develop Dian? That gives you got these boys unguarded like easy. You guys you gotta scientists and he got an indian bore these guys little still available people, any God he's got his eyes. Clarence yea, ass clarity by Bounden down now Bruce Bring staged a little Stevie for me is bound to doubt member that now these guys, these three deeds first started working on the terminology, their first name four painful past experiences was impediment, but that did have enough? Do you? Let em deny seen some good like yeah impediment. That's too many syllable right. They eventually settled on angrily, which was at a goal term for a lasting mark or trace them. As I felt like when you name the Rubik's cube, lay on your gear that Scott Snap, yes but impediment, is kind of a man.
Spirit, a term for the disease, because it's hard to say when you say you thought you'd all we got Wally mouth you. I think I did it necessarily force them. Do you know shine with their impediment? This guy's got junkie limp. You could say that we have studied junkie, liberal locked, the dung angry, were caused by aberrations which were caused by physical and emotional pain, which were triggered by a person which is any sense message like site, sounder smell pain was a threat to survival. The conscious mind sought to avoid in our school Hubbard felt that the key to all humankind was sister via Gatt Yang, Radical Otto said I survival was the most important thing and that is very important understanding how L run hovered. He believed that survival. The only
thing that mattered and life. Nothing else, matters but survival. It wasn't just a base like yoke, as all of us are base, emotion is survival, but for him that's all it was in someone's. Only goal is survival that makes them any strongly dangerous car. Meanwhile, as children are out, there look like pig pen from you know peanuts, because their poor, India and miserable Breezy he breaks up into four dynamics, though so it's like survival and fitting into this. We could then he tries it could it starts really selfish within as you go as you read Dianetics, you start seeing always cover up his tracks, because then it turns into before dynamics, which is you have to do something, one that helps just you and career and you success in your personal survival to whatever help you get laid to make more people to have the human race server to continue, go on three doubt which helps
dig with a world that would help the earth in order to have on the place role this alive and survive on a number, for whatever is a macro thing that helps all humankind, and then there is number five words like women wipe tobacco, while you're afraid awry wipe back to front. Does it say no, it doesn't matter if you dont like so these anger. Would be filed away in what the three men dubbed the reactive mine, which was the unconscious, cited the mind where they cause all sorts of problems for people and they said to end grooms could only build up in your body if you're unconscious or dead, which possibly means that we live multiple lives. For this idea that you collect Ingram onto unto herb onto your life track, I made that really the life track and angrily and the pass lives in the multiple lies in all that that's right when he gets into Scientology. That's a match, it really starts his ring up, and he starts ramping up in fact makes it a central tenet of that irreligion. Well, that's what you had to say
the billion year contract me up the billing, your conduct, a kind of job security, better per as of dianetics, would be to access those Ingram and re file them to the analytical side of the mind, which was the conscious, my Marty, pants brains, Marty, brain and once every file they could be arranged in once they were a race. The mind could operate at ball efficiency. The person would have told you recall his I q would rise. You would be competent and all psychosomatic illnesses would be cured. Yes, and you will become what is now known, which is the famous term clear and that is the all run it goal of dynamics is to become a clear which means you have no more angle: Ingram Rooms, you could have jump higher Europe, your site, any said, I'm doing a hint actually jump hire. You just think that you're jumping higher than ever, when just sees you like YAP and guess what they think about these, seeing how how high you think, you're jumping and then make it impress, and eventually these are seen you jump and as high as you think, you're jumpin I
Is that what happened with Gee up spot, where now, of course, to come up with all this Hubbard winner and Campbell had to have a singular obsession with the subject. This obsessions led to Campbells divorce, which whose why cited Dianetics ass, quote the latter straw- oh my hilarious God, just hang out with all run Aubert all day. Really duties can go. Hang out with this, this poor screaming maniac all day. Writing unease is like it, I'm not gonna, say usually when wives hate their husbands, friends, there right you Emily Lady, sometimes not, but usually not bought, Campbell, didn't really seem to care, as people do in situations like this, for the dawn of a new age was upon them in them Nineteen. Fifty issue of astounding science fiction, which Richard and Alien Monkey on the cover mattered me knew the science was finally debuted end.
Article hovered outlined everything that he and the other two due to come up with, but it was nothing more. A preview to get full story on how you could actually do this yourself in your own home you'd have to pay for bucks for a copy of die. Medics, the modern science of mental health, ah yeah, and set out for nineteen. Fifty four bauxite goes a long way yet sorted by today S, but twenty five bucks, our Armenia for boxes, a whole prostitute, leads up her life. The way that you read a month, he think of money in your head and always ban people money. I so I I myself a copy Dinah. First of all, you did a great job of their about like put new power in Europe
True self help idea at this point I do believe they are on offer- did feel that he can flip all this into a tony robins type that right right that he can genuinely help people. Even if it's bullshit it'll turn. Eighty eight, somehow you will ask backwards, fall his way into being a true savour of humankind and now, for all tourism reasons were because will make him super rich and powerful. But you also then get the good points to its interest in you mentioned Tony Robins breathe. I was thinking about him watching this documentary last night in the Vienna twenty Robins understands is the power that he harnesses yeah and that's what he's very aware of not becoming a cult deity he's when he gave it all. He did not even know what else I was given. Everything from self behind Eagle, maniac, immunology, simpler, twenty robins has some ego maniac traits too, but at least he's aware yeah yeah he's, who are not totally robins is fine. I like these six seven eyes of being the main lessons. I read a hundred and eighty six pages of Dianetics, and it is this: in
honourable here is an awful who- and I got to the until I got to the point where I literally sort of looking up ouses like all right. I just gotta be like a cliff notes of this, so I found a blog called a dynamic journey and it was this woman that was like open at the very beginning. She was like. I just came one again Dianetics because our trying to figure out a new way to like to think about the world and think, but also and its whole going literally the same journey that I'm going to go on her. That's kind of interesting that, make any sense in chapter two: does it make any sense, and it seems like all of this is a but no one wants to be taken, image of no one wants to be a fool, so they try to rationalize those non for because they may be for four box yeah. If you get through it, I mean the whole thing. Is I mean it's pretty much like a near anchor incomprehensible hodgepodge like darling Pavlov, Freud and Young repackaged with new terms to make it sound like a completely new idea, yeah yeah- and he also ripped off eastern philosophy a bit in the form of the tone.
Scale, which is just like a reworking of the karmic wheel, but with grafts tone scale was essentially how he was his major breakthrough for dianetics, which is going to carry over to Scientology, which is this sort of concept of its a graph of happiness and health. Leads towards immortality it out this graph. It's like this for zones owns one through four and there's numbers within those zones that are attached to your general attitude and the father. You, oh god, scale like a zero, is called total apathy, and that means that you are dead, which means Essentially, your mood is connected straight to your survival rate. So, as you go up the tone scale by getting rid of ENG Grams, you slowly gotta use slowly go
towards completely happy and zone, for which brings you was close to immortality is possible. You know, zone zero gives us your vodka organisers diva. So I kind of like zones are. What are you talking? Debo right, not eye on visa dialogue. Cassia may understand, but if you really want to talk about music Nirvana is better the diva, so this is not even I love you rip it good.
It's our plenary gag listing a loyalty iq. Are we not men a we are Debo you idiot gap. I love you that I will not care freedom of choice. Emmi provokes egg man. A good to every single album, robotic put out is a matter that is a fun song when driving fast, yes, but would not only like out, you can call you Nimrod. I did have this. I did have this question when it comes to Scientology, is Dianetics Bible of Scientology is the more no layer different right now yeah. It's it's a different thing. It's it's the foundation, but it's not. The buyer will really be organised at issue. Is that Dianetics fixes the by
Scientology fixes the soul. He taught the way he spends it out. Is that the more research he does? He expands what he knows about the universe, yeah, I'm your Vano unplugged alone is better than every single diva album on others. Ball women to make some of the most vital soundtracks movie Sandro and I go, and by the way of Nevada Unplugged is pretty much a fuckin covers object. I got into the cover by a great heroin attitude. Life occurred, Cobain was murdered by forty. He would we not clearly has had on a fuckin smoke. No, he was up now you definitely what he was more like a limp he's out anyway. Don't get me wrong, I loved her VON anywhere as one of my favorite albums are right. Yeah I, like a two yet again with the first goal ever had a crush on a nickel Lopez, had green air in and shoot carve Kurt into her arm. That's how I felt we got you ve got checks of the rest of my life healthy elder today's less Guest on the left is broad you buy on to kill by now
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with her lover, she's jaded, our husband with She- would ban while her husband to her lover. While they were fuck, l rubber did steal a woman away from Jack Parsons and take her on a boat right. Yes, yes, and a casual in utero child. If the child was named after the husband would be bought. With an inferiority complex, because her mother was fuckin another dude and for some reason, was talking about how much she hates her husband while they were having sex in utero, another great nirvana, album and number one momentum, even bad, and about how we mentioned evil dead. Having Campbell was the next week to come out of your mouth, it's all coming together, synchronicity, interesting and also they. He said that of all feeble minded. People were the result of attempted abortions and all these women for the most part, their main method of attempted abortion was to stab knitting needles into their stuff or of their vaginas. Yes, stir the soup and the EU is very like. Oh, she thing that most women tried aboard the baby
like Albert FISH comes, yet it added do yeah and furthermore Pregnant woman might ruin her child by being constipated. So much rheumatism he's a pro life than oh yeah yeah, while on the toilet, the woman, if she's constipated she might say, envisage a year this eggs- or this is wrong words. This is from Dianetics, so there's a woman on the toilet. Another is the woman on the troika is debated, and this is something that a woman, a pregnant woman, might say when she is constantly eight Albania too, in order to Implant in Ingram This is well ah jammed up inside. I feel sorry for you. I can't think this two terrible to be
Thank you. Haven't sexual driving matching its side of things. We all comes out oil. That was the most on everything that was said: Toy Box killer. I haven't been so creating having one. I hated that deregulation, we all new body and you got a hard, will drive and others do you only want you get a gold star. Madam we gotta gold star about this may result in chronic calls for the child who is so stuffy he cat hotel jammed up absolutely stretched out with which not now would you even feel the need to extract extrapolate? Not on this? Why was even talk about the all of his good samples? Are ridiculous, you're all super where he writes about hypnotism and things go wrong? How angry and can place for ten paid
But how did you take that view our make the analogy, but a chick pooping? I do not know I've. No, I'm pretty sure that his first wife had a lot of constipation. While she was pregnant is like that's. How all of whom I was a baby was born in inside of her. She was a little gassing, yeah she's too, and for two and add the kid might also have an inferiority complex from being too terror to be born like a piece of dig full of it like a wrongful adopt like a followed up. You know, I was always enable rob hopeful, hovered, also wasted no time ribbon into medical professionals. Very likely that Hubbard with smart enough to know that if his new science gain traction, the mental health professionals were sure to have you choice words to say about him, which they fuckin did. Of course they absolute everybody, flipped aid, every everybody, debt
Yes, I'm sorry, I just have to say I can't stop. Thinking of you were would be happier if they made a character called wrongful adopt that good about yours girlfriend in winning the poor. So he supposed to it would make him you sad case law with another weird mule like here. I don't know what a layman rampant, dont, know or upload up Rob Fool TAT. I desire wrap it up, I mean this way, Rome I used to be so banal because robot dumps around, of course a harbour the predicting that the medical health professionals gonna come after Two I issued a pre emptive strike, accusing medical mental health professionals of either make their patients worse just so they could scam money from them or by in guilty of Zalm defying every patient. They could get their hands on just for the fun of it and that would become Court of Scientology, or better still to this day mental health, Professionals are just to give you antidepressant
in any sort of medication, is evil and only creates more Ingram, and all medical professionals are the devil, again example being Nicole Cabins father. The reason why he was an S views because use one of the most famous psychiatrist and of Australia, and they would call em sites and again it started with doctors and and eventually the lower turned into they were the embodiment of demons that were billions of years old in the third part of the book was the actual practice of dianetics in order to go from bring three clear, which is chock full of immigrants to being clear, which is knowing grooms one had to go. The process of auditing auditing was done in a dark room in which the pre clear would be guided into what hovered called a diabetic reverie all under the supervision of an auditor. Once you reached reverie, you can back further improve further through your life up to the moment of birth, sometimes going back to the moment of conception which hover called us.
During which I called the seventh grade, a dream. Indeed, isn't that a form of psychiatry in itself? Yes add two hours a day I was already saying is that he sang this is a new form of psychotherapy These involve itself its do yourself. It's do it with a body. Is that your buddy can be an auditor anyone, but it also anybody can train to be an auditor, because after this comes out, it starts up with anybody. The in order, and then it turns into give me five hundred dollars and I'll teach you how to be an auditor and its inch Oh, my god, you got to have another example in that, in that documentary I saw with an actor who wanted to get heat sheets on Adam Backstage magazine. He ended up spending fifty thousand dollars in three years of these dumb stupid as books.
Another thing. That allotted colds do the holistic rattling, my parents, we didn't have medicine ridden elevator a plan for three year old men are no matter what you are sick, where there's like suck on the plant, and that was what was it like that, and we shall do not you green. My childhood watch. You ain't childhood memories with your version of it so as you went further back into your memory, you discover angrily, which once discovered could be filed into the analytical mind and rights. For example, one. Guy said that he's, two bulge eyes, while he was being audited, which he said, look like popping eyes, Popping eyes became Popeye's, I shot by the sailor sure which became pop
it sounds like or in a room where people are right and more those dumb should commercial to this rule. It doesn't make any sense. You don't know what it is until he gets the anytime you, but you know what we're gonna put Selma high, again grid idealistic poppies, made the guy think of a pawn. They, as John downplaying said, and fled field. The poppies grow by the cross is Rowan. Row crosses, made him think of his brother who had died at a young age years earlier. He then came upon the Ingram that was created by his brother's dead, which he had never quite dealt with any discovered that, after finding in dealing with it, he felt which is actually of course, though, of course you feel better if you think about something in also people love to talk about themselves, so you mean better when you're talking but you're here, but I mean I just don't know why they have to take that just a rule of improbably just found the scene and the scene happened to be his it'll have rather and that's where they that's. What I do know is that was the crux The examples are that seem from black dynamite, we're in he's doing this conspiracy breakdown. Oh, he any replies. Restaurant at first that first reference to bar dynamite
Congratulations! Everyone, including areas because interesting now this happen again and again with people, and so the process went that if auditing worked Maybe there was something the dynamics as a whole and, by extension, when Scientology came around me be. There was something to that too, because they did make some people feel better. So when someone far better through auditing, mostly by just haven't someone listen to them, talk about problems for two hours, they without it to friends and they would to friends and so on
and so getting they would hold auditing parties were people would get together or not at each other anew became the thing to do and ally that in ITALY is the birthplace of some of our worst idea, guys the worst place in America, whether as tuna honestly, the weather is just too nice. The sunrise, your brain, the worse place that America is still it's gotta, be Gary Indian, I loved area and alien and is a bad boy. Now it's my good people and I'm sorry I'll pay. You is not. The workplace in America to see at Amazon, glad you calculated reverence them. No, not not all about my own issues within our right. Gary India areas of fine place just two months, dianetics sold over fifty five thousand copies while and had topped the LOS Angeles Times best seller list. Over five hundred dianetics groups have been set up around the: U S and everywhere people were firing. Their fifteen
an hour. An hour. Psycho endless bore a for dollar: do it yourself mental health care? This is nineteen. Fifty people just certainly get into psychoanalysis. People are nervous as fuck, because we ve got the cold war start Miranda up. Poles are looking for something anything to make them feel better and Dianetics was a cheap and easy way and you have a whole generation of deeds back from all war to doubt that had just been to these, and there is a lot of weird psychological problems in one of these guys. My grandfather, Eden vaguely talked about like because it given the nature of the war, because there were such clear delineated lines between whose good guys and bad guys the people, they came back more than did any, really think that they had shown shock or like dealt with horrors of the war. Until now, we have a whole generation of guys. I kind of like this influx of money, the economy
is boosted in America Billig, ok, suddenly, babies have houses and everybody shattered gap, young killing people for five years. So after a day, Netteke started sullen real money start rolling and converts started Fox. To the newly opened Hubbard Dianetics. We search foundation in Elizabeth New Jersey for train and how to become an official Hubbard endorsed auditor. These courses cost in nineteen fifty five, drew dollars each which in today's money little over five grand? And if you look at the chart, you ve seen the diner eggs chart yeah, it's just a perfect example of just breadcrumb breadcrumb breadcrumb. It's such a genius
marketing scam when it started with we're in Dianetics, there was an end to it. There was clear clear was the highest level. That's what everybody was trying to get too and then once Scientology started, that's when the goalposts started moving about when all the o t shed started right, operating fate and stuff which will get into the next diabetics, also had a little bit of a back door, and there were how clear was on a permanent state clear you could bounce in and out of so, if you hit clear its great you can we do now. You may clear less Dounia you go back down and our on how but also had a grey way of being kind of like self effacing by saying even clear clear something? Even I haven't cable started there and then eventually became Lord Jesus Christ of Everything agenda of now on August, tenth,
Albert, hosted an event at the shrine auditorium and allay to unveil the world's first clear. This is maybe what three months after Scientology came out? Her name with Sonia and Hubbard was going to demonstrate to an audience of about six thousand people, just what they can hope to accomplish. If only they to buy, Dianetics and see it through to the end. So so came on sage and so that Dianetics had cleared her sinuses and ensured her quote strange and embarrassing allergy to pain. Although I don't really know the fuck a strange and embarrassing allergy to pain. Actually, it is as though, what they think I experienced in the emergency room when the guy was caught arising. My thumb and I was bellowing like I- was having an earth shattering orgasm downward. As you know, I was just screaming, but it started out an allergy to pain, that's just paid yet,
just paid out or no one an allergy to paint or shit yeah, because I will the audience thorough. Horseshit too, there were underwhelmed. They were shown up expecting to see the next stage of human evolution, and instead it was just a woman named so you got like my sinuses are clear right. Aren't you be ok, my pillow commercial. Suddenly I love my xo harboured he felt like he's about to lose the audience, so he makes the mistake of taking questions from the crowd and the crowd. They knew they read Dianetics, so they started, and they knew that if you were a clear, then you had perfect recall of your memory. Someone shouted! Why the plan is October third job to know for a fact it it wasn't Yo Goodbye was say, yogurt, are vague and it wasn't a duke email change. We need to get it over producer and easier another. One asked what
by George what a jewel dynamic is about making yourself have Borgia Moon winner hovered turned his back to her once Mademoiselle DR hovered, were adopted new deal with abortion, nor no world. She had no answer to any of its human legally and totally froze
however our argued yeah harbour, I mean he tried to recover. The only thing you can come up with was that when he called her out onstage, she became frozen in present time and it is blocked. Her total recall genius l abroad, where you, good God, Arizona she needed to become clear to every who I see how to paint the fifty granted at at it reminds me when rush Limbaugh had that short lived television show they had a escort, the audience out cause. You got Budapest about Jack as he started doing monologue everyone Buddha. They had to get better get the audience out when they came back to commercially was just imminent, empty road. In the modern age and incidents like this one caught on video and applauded you too, but the night was even over religion is dead in the world, it is YO. I mean this whole thing is over and done with, but in nineteen fifty it was nothing more than a bad night and hovered moved out here, because you have
upon the word of the paper boys, never knows no paper. Boys will say anything for a nickel anything and just A short couple months, Dianetics had offices in New York, DC, Chicago and Honolulu and headquarters in California, located in a former governors, mansion called the CASA Mexican about I was there was prayers. Architectures Elia come on huddle. Lulu is a fun name. I love Honolulu by Kiki Link. Why not I'd say that it's cute but essential, but it is a whole race here I mean so thought you, it's just how they live Oh you mean the Polynesian yeah you talking about I live relates, seems cute, but he's killed, but they are also very I'm sure that their vicious, but also erotic, and also sad. You Amy people rise. They dead ones have a king girls Bob
money is common law, wasn't any better with money, then then he was when he spent the money he made right and buckskin brigades on a boat. He also refused to delegate authority as you becoming increasingly paranoid that the CIA had hit men after him because he was just that goddamned import. When are you seen the manic? The manic faces come out becoming less more like fantastic, an awesome he's by everybody. Beers at the bar, like like gloves, all jump off the bridge humanly havin fun times that kind of manic into real paranoid, delusions of and eventually that will spiral depression. I mean that happens, sometimes that we win, because it really starting to become apparent that IRAN, Hubbard, is manic depressive, because sometimes, when you start getting a lot of, success when you start getting a lot of endorphins russian in that will flippers switch on you The manic turns from I'm gonna, write all night to everybody's out to get which turns into depression, and it's just like this never ending cycle, and this is something
that would go on like IRAN. Hubbard would never recover from this because, of course he would never fucking get help for any of it, but He thought the auditing was gonna fix all of his fuckin problems when in fact, auditing probably made it even worse, because auditing was actually proven to dry people litter insane. You would only when drive people to the not but also its him, believing as our lives, and it is also a feeling I even at this point ye doesn't yet fully believers online. Those sort of know that he supposed to say auditing will fix all my problems because he's telling everybody thought of auditing were familiar problems, but the auditing is not fixing his problems identified a later that he kept the auditing records that they ve kept every one of them. There's like tons of them literally tons and weight of his body auditing records that all show that he learned nothing and during that process they were at this point where they holding the the truth. Stick sort of the hay meter. Have you not showed not yet ok and then
by the way, actually has no knots in it. What did you want to clarify no blows a cash users, Hubbard Mistress at the time, Barbara described him as vain, arrogant, self, centred and Annette to tolerate any restoration of any kind on top of a heavy drinking. Have no barber was beautiful. Barbara was all of our arms, wives and mistresses were, albeit a very beautiful and she's descried Miss Flabby, and she does not did not know why she was attractive. Damn, except for his wonderful ideas, which guys some wonderful ideas, interesting all you have to do is be interesting and creepy about it and not self righteous about Udall so funny, as they also must finally uneasily ukulele s lot time, usable funny, customs on the axe about this drunk d.
We should had also plays the ukulele, can beat him up every day of his light is before that was when it was hawaiian and not like diplomacy or art girl, yeah, we ok, there's a Yahoo arrival, and actually Barbara an hour on had quite the trusting relationship they added on off again affair. That was very, very tumultuous and the two of them were. The debate He put his eye. The it's so now arises. Nerd, who has made Would you people short worshipping him a certain to get all of his dreams come true in so we do and then is its. He placed it he's kind of already sick of his wife. Who's got a kid novel plan where all horse or think, Now we got this new pure woman. Those was they help him with the people that are attacking for his religion and inform them for the Dianetics processes that he was put together and without the wife, barber duty of children,
our group? Also? Now? Ok, no, no he's got the two categories of matter rice. Only Barbara at this point he's got two kids with Polly that he is abandoned. I he's got one kid with Sarah learn. A little girl named alike says he also abandon he still married to her this in Russia of it. Yet Oh, they met, and so they got big broke up, and so this is a garbage and Hubbard armor on harbour broke up. Why one point and is a transcript of what she said that she sat? I watch an interview with her and she spent ass if I could not yet end of his eggs are by the way. This is her recollection of the conversation that she wrote later in her journal. You may a habit of instilling and grams too. Don't you that's fine. That's good bye, easier for the founder of Dianetics exciting, for you being a parliament two grand chessboard, you're playing for the world.
You think of anything more exciting. I don't give a good God damn about the world, almost single gratifying human relationship, you couldn't have one Europe, Bishop woman, you crave power nor Marie Antoinette of Cleopatra on a crucial Borgia. You must have a Caesar or an exile examined. I know I don't need it These are the Cesar may need me. I know you now run at this moment employ did you than any one has ever been a knowing me. Don't care for me any more. I care for you in a different, new and exciting way. I shouldn't do this. He kissed me you still care for me. How do you know you can find your hat you're distracted? That makes your your power for, doesn't it ex me aware of something interesting. You still want me. Why because you need me you'd me more than I need you
thirty nine. I was very much in love with a girl. She felt that way too, when I knew she had a boyfriend coming up. I waited on the stairway with a gun just for a moment, then I they are flies. I realize who and what I was in love I told her. I would leave our freedom area Shoppy with a cigar amount from Monthly Indiana. Would you be left free, the altar? and have as a shopping with a cool cigarette from Elizabeth New Jersey that was implies. Very wise of you to say, I'm just not my type number do that's meatloaf. Those remember, where is the evidence that is such a taboo remove the moon. Had I love me, love is opera early as their fifties romance comics yeah. You know that that's what all this is its very romantic, it's very over the top, and that cannot kind of shows you how Barbara thought.
About the relationship which invalidated her to be a part of it as much as that validated IRAN to have a beautiful woman as the life there just living to different realities, Don't they see what their actually what their lives you're like as in their minds? Third, there princesses and kings, but in reality there just like pathetic morons Kizil. What the reality is, what they think. And then it slow realities. Wouldn't let s look at in reality. I looked at them and slept raids on a bus error to each other. Pretend you like the word crown every digging turn into a gigantic multi billion dollar cold. That was the inaugural. If I did, I would say you are right and I was wrong, but they made it happened again. Now right, fine now due to hover mental ok, don't get you dog had already arrived at is that you are correct. I said I want to argue about this because we have to do more provisionally. Debugger strikes again, your another great debugger do
it's a Hubbard mental instability. The died at expounding should became financially insolvent fairly quickly and the whole thing started to fall apart. Doktor winner was the first to go now leave because he found that, even though around hover told him all in his clean, safe anybody can be an auditor, don't worry about it winter. Had seen first hand at least a couple of people. Driven by perfectly sane. People drive to an asylum by all, They went to deep, they went too far in these people were screaming. No one was sleeping or eating, like some guy just was habitually slapping himself on the figures, just talking gas from a because they would do it for two hours. What auditing was an operating session, was two hours long and you are supposed to have ten hours or ten sessions of auditing before you were supposed to feel the effects? So you ve got twenty hours of,
going further and further in your mind and being guided into places that are allowed times not falcon real, I mean they're, so they were. These people sometimes would be guided into. Delusions and they would also be worried constantly about immigrants. Is that causing the in Ingram? Is this causing me in Ingram? Oh, my god. I can't get rid of my old incomes because I'm getting new in rooms all the time, but I can't get rid of my old Ankara's until I take care of these New Ingram and it would drive people absolutely fucking. Save me wilder their bank account just going lower and lower and lower gonna. Think me, with tee shirts, I loved you I get drunk and by tee shirts online rights. All I'm! Ok, it's a wonderful! By and by the way. Thank you too Y Y S, first sitting as some wonderful you sure you. Thank you. So much also check out only Weber. Our new teacher represent not gone. That's good influx. Rachid outlet, Gregg Grateful met when winter left Hubbard. When
bout, a campaign to not only tarnish winners reputation but to utterly and completely destroy him, as was to be his philosophy on his life when any one crop. Some in anyway, he was never sat five with just someone haven't a black mark on his report on their reputation. Hubbard wanted that person to be their life to be in for you know it's interesting because again going to heartening that thing that I saw the dock when people do the church they still do hold on to some of the tenants of Scientology Guide in love ways. They do see themselves as the God that'll take down Scientology. So around was up. Right to be afraid of people leaving because they did want to blow the whole thing up gap. That is what I mean all again, but that is what colts, due to different reality, my ETA coltan religion. It will probably talk about this. A lot is at its making little versions of the leader yeah and so we have these people spent so many years. Thinking that the person at the top is this exalted figure,
so if they leave the called, then that means that they are smarter than this exalted figure yellow. Therefore they must also be an extremely smart godlike person because that part of their brain that sees this person as someone comrade they obeyed then get that transfer to themselves. Now hovered favorite tactic in the early years was to report people as communist, to the house on american activities. Committee headed by Wisconsin's own senator Joe Mccarthy well were proud of our Joe Mccarthy. You should be. This was a cheap and easy way for people to get rid of enemies. In the early fifties, you'd rat someone out as a commie and see their life quickly fall apart, as just being accused was enough to ruin most people in highlighting fifty the witch hunt. Someone should a written like a play or something that was by the way, camp was really about that Greek Chris. What curses
So when I didn't just come up with a million dollar, rightly I likely angry idea with their television should have the can always on Eu Electricity. I didn't put Joam a high again, it yeah, I know, but we can both Marilyn Monroe it. If you know what I mean yeah or her Miller thy weird man had sex with me or limit rose again shows it L run harboured all you have to be as interesting, debt or manipulative and our day he got it exactly year. They gotta be interesting area is an interesting writer like Arthur Miller, or a total jock like Joe to measure the airlines are getting older employees. Honourable magician, our politician, like John F Kennedy, Marilyn Monroe Bone Audubon Geology of K, acceptable from airline and Arthur Miller, was a beautiful. My You do know you're beautiful, might at least
have you never had the crucible no book and I actually perform in the crucible I was. The stake is ridiculous. Maryland it shouldn't, she didn't deserve that. Hubbard merit was also fallen apart once again, Hubbard was having an affair with Barb, while Sarah was having an affair with barbs former boyfriend aid. Auditor from Us Angeles named MILES Hollis, who L Ron forced to go in a double date, him in Sarawak in a double date, with Barbara and miles and miles sorted, fuckin, Sarah, and that made our. An harboured really upset okay, so the accurate depiction of these people, L run harbour plain scratch us in the corner of the bar. This is a trailer park romance that belong
and the stage of a jury Springer so sad, but that these people are not classy individuals when it dont have any answer their gods as well. I can't imagine someone believing that, though, the marriage between hovered and Sarah had been absolutely horrific. When Sarah was pregnant hub, kicker in the stomach several times to try to do induce and aboard Unsuccessfully he wants her so hard, but he broke her aerodromes. Here on the exact same thing Nepali as well. I mean this is just something that he had done throughout the year. Would you noticing you, when you re Dianetics it talks about all of the inspire interesting construction of the immigrants created when you beat woman tat boy. You say take that. Take that tell that awful and so the and so the child hears take that take that, while in the womb- and so he becomes a thief that makes all the
in the world can even more male led religions that voting yes, but that is the tactic to David Miscarriage uses as well now yeah, just very physical, very violent extremists out now they both knew that they should not bend together. Harboured refused a divorcing, it would hurt his reputation. He told her that if she really loved him she she would kill herself. Rather than have him go through the indignity of a devil, I mean he's right, legs Romeo and Juliet s at the dumpy dumper yeah, just fucking kill yourself. That is insane. Sarah finally left on February third, nineteen, fifty one which prompted Hubbard to do something straight, the drastic he needed to take all of the situation, so he decided the best. To do that would be an old fashioned. Kidnapping first Robert and a couple of associates took little Alexey their trial. They dropped her off at a second location. Then went back two hours later to get Sarah hovered, then
Sarah around San Bernardino, in the middle of the night, trying to find a doctor to declare her in Saint literally he's driving around with the screaming woman and ignore, and I will go on to any key right going into hopefully be like. I need you to declare this woman insane and there, like. No you're obviously requires you won at ease grab, and these grand Sarah been like you love when I'm asterophyton, you don't care that all I do is masturbate. I don't care that all I do is Macedonia. I masturbate to forget that you also drink honey. I drink as well, but I don't feel guilty about them and they couldn't find a doctor to discuss our her insane Hubbard said he would return her daughter, under the condition that she would sign a document. That said she had gone with him willingly and not under direct, and he will do this several times. And this is a kidnap there's a thing. We're he'll be like causal flippant feeling. Alright no fucking, let her up and you have to you after basically again
deny reality change reality. In order to absolve me, it happens. It's like the Alford plea that the western fruits for Yeah three had to you. Dont admit that you're innocent the state is still admits that your gear, but they let you go free, somehow exact, all nonsense. Now our on naturally went back on the steel and took their daughter to Chicago and took this whole thing even further. He called Sarah and talk Then he had killed their child covered up. The pieces and dropped the pieces in the river, and it was all her fault because she had left him and he let that sit for a couple of fuckin days. I then he called
like firing, diskette not, and then he wrote a letter to J Edgar Hoover at the FBI, saying that Sarah and her lover miles were both communist out to destroy his America, loving organization or from the inside out and Hoover jumped at it. Of course, Hoover Jamaica's Hoover was jump at everything just put on my favorite fuckin wedding dress. I've ever take care for all for ethical limits, or I will let me This still auto oil, from inside of we re able to Boston, Carol, mover of course, an agent to check out the case. But after just one interview with harboured, the Asia, we back the F B. I said this guy's fuckin insane. We don't need it We need to have anything to do with this. Guy we do need to do is start a bucking file file on because this guy we actually have to want- and this is very again we're going to see a lot well run harboured using his DOM tactics, brings he on himself.
And then I put. I then again, I think its cause. He likes it. Yeah the little neck attention and positive attention is what's fuel in the Fuckin manic engine. Why don't Jesus without Pontius Pilate. You got have people scrutinising the otherwise you're, not a god. Absolutely he loves people attacking him, because the more piano attack him the more valid he is limping Yang. He lips, because if there are, packing him. Then he must be doing something right. I don't that sound spoken familiar to anybody, but that's what he that's, how his followers get more admiration formed. That's how it is organization gain strength, because if they are being attacked and they must be doing Anthony Right called one unwanted religion when a one, the God hates Fags called that's all that the whole thing was predicated on them. Being a protest in that weddings are funerals of Marines and then people again
look. That's proof! It's also in now a days events link up, I have friends, then, are like I've Instagram brands. There, like cyber goths, they get sick to superintend slight, make up a narrow like and weird course its and then the war boyfriend is always selling his shirt. That's like hated by some trash. The trash talk by Sir with Haiti by all trash, By some. Do I give a fuck, I tell you what Less than one funny Irene. No one knows who you are, and no one gives people like Heaven, Agers TAT, beloved, validate their lives. That's what honesty whenever I feel like all overwhelmed or something I always remember their six billion people in this world, all them care about themselves. No one cares what we do yet that is actually great liberate at some people just want attention, no matter what an easy it's much more simple. An easy to get negative attention than it is to give a positive attention. It is big ridiculously now. Sarah officially
filed for divorce and Hubbard got his first spate of truly bad press. This ship was all but because she Sarah got a lawyer that love publicity knew how to work. The So there were all these headlines. It was like call leader, kidnaps, taught in shit like that and so Hubbard. Eventually. Granted Sarah the divorce, under the condition that she write a letter saying how awesome he was and how none of this stuff in the press was true and she would have to publish it. Of course, hovered wrote the letter and she signed it and so the divorce. Finalize wrong, then came back to the United States and settled in Wichita Kansas under the financial care of a MR dawn. Purcell runs very first super rich dupe. Who would give him the money he needed to keep going until he could start so? apology proper, which we'll get into on ex episode. If you are a billionaire just, please use your money for good wise.
Use violence to arrive, Elon Musk, I really like you. I must gear even have to use it for good use it for your own funds. Just don't use it for evil gates do with some good stuff Bilbil. I held a carpenter zip around with it, but we have a budget gold, clothes, young old clothes sure you only has not your five point: seven slow punishment. We think that wearing gold clothes is going to make you a target. I would be carried out only a carriage by five. I M a chance of materials like there's a millionaire and admiral of that, I think, is a law like what you would be. I can review garbage. He got that here. This field, he painted a whole bunch of gigantic boulders to look like billiard balls, and then he worked out equation and where he would pay people to push the billiard balls across the field to play a huge gave. Her billiards does indeed off areas have incredible. Other pyramids were built he'd also he would pay teenagers too
I've around on the outskirts of golf courses and yell golfers hung Agatha Athos maker JAG literally be a wild cholera and he paid Yang. He would pay he people money to put up road signs in their front yard. That would just have like someone just have like a big cricket, pay big picture of a cricket, I'd say, could get crossing I then others would say why not just in their hundreds of these all across emerald, because he get people like three hundred bucks. He's like history entered let me put it. Let me put aside, and people have no have no say over what goes on in their yard. They signed a contract that money is ever they get their pocket stuck in full. I'm go in full the jerk. If I get rich you that of our right, so that's part to the Ehler Robert, a series: unbelievable work, a great job, everybody lives.
Where can I stop? Reading Dianetics New should have started, really died down with dianetics we're moving on assignment we're moving out of Scientology New Book or movement under the bridge. We're gonna talk about phaetons. Z knew all that wacky bullshit. This is when it gets really crazy. Has the older RON. Hovered gets the crazier. He gets the more vicious. He gets. It also amount to two comes to see, Org wavered you're. The reason why only make way for the Commodore just pirates of the fat Caribbean, I mean I do you know, and you know what I want to be mean spirited towards people. I understand how people can middle bigotry can do at least up, and they really are victims in outline its people. Looking for an answer, you know and its that's what every culture is in. These are all at culture, personality people get taken,
every day it doesn't make them stupid, it doesn't make them bad blue, elder the very small allotted time allotted time. They are very smart, but it doesn't make em sue doesn't make him bad. People just makes them desperate you're, not looking for looking for an answer, any sir, as though some reason people get keyed in two These calls they get Keaton to these leaders and they think all right. This is it. This is the guy. That's gonna of all of my problems and alive times people make at the end all be, although, like this guy's going to solve all my problems or nobody also Scientology is STAR Trek University. It's like it's cool to be a part of the fantasy. If you want to live the fantasy and given fully it's a good living Dundee with your life, is it you got to go and play with aliens and in believe in all of this shit, if you will, but as a real world that happens
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