Join us for the first of two on the death of Nirvana's Kurt Cobain as we explore both sides of the suicide/murder controversy.
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Dodge around. Whilst so today's episode get we gonna to party here. This is a long time in the making and I am absolutely thrilled. I can't wait to get into Kirk Cobain and Courtney love. What have you did it
right. We only know usually enter the episode so goodbye everybody now
its head. Recent morality is. Theory obviously breeds that from the moment when it is right to talk about there's a lot more, that people didn't that the people aren't aware of because the narrative has been so. The lies has just been said.
Pervasive in this story, there's a lot of ends in this case. It is extremely complicated and it inspires
out of emotion and people one way or another
wave and allowed for recycled, for example, Henry's incoherent ramblings. On the other end, it does inspire a lot of emotion and people, because curled May was so goddamn popular Nirvana was so amazing popular and he meant so much to so many people I mean for all of us. You know I'm thirty, five years old, so nineteen, eighty to ninety, ninety three Nirvana unplugged, those eleven twelve thirteen years old, overweight alone I had was skinny little Kurt, who was much more handsome than me and died, but the nerve
I was extremely influential in my depression and getting me out of it. I am. I am, of course started this entire up. Some thinking, Courtney Love is the worst human being and if a new face had a plan,
when the more more research about or read a couple articles and so watch
several interviews with her. I think that she is not the worst. She was just incredibly ambitious at a time when it was not very stylish to be ambitious. Sure and also a lot of ambitious people are manipulative terrible,
manipulated people like to be would know anything about that. At the same time, she was also a great musician and in whole was a solid ban. So let's get into that yeah. So Kirk of eight April
No, because we ve got a lotta. Younger listeners meant a lot to your uncle Jesse Edward TAT. I always of uncle exactly and body of uncles everywhere
Oh, was the lead singer of the nineties, rock band Nirvana and, in my opinion, was America's last crew rock star on April AIDS, nineteen
Four Cobain was found at his Seattle Washington, home dead, from the double whammy of a massive heroin Eau de coupled with an apparent self inflicted gunshot wound to the head of an errand.
There are some that believe that Cobain did not commit suicide and was in fact killed by persons unknown, although most point towards is soon to be ex wife,
Courtney love, then the lead singer of the rock band hole now are
on this series is to prevent both sides of the argument, both suicide and homicide. Because, honestly,
there was any solid evidence that Corti love was responsible for his death. She would be in jail.
And by the way, can you imagine watching Courtney love in a female prison. She would be the warden enlivened or minutes. Is it bad that I just popped like a crazy about? You know: that's allowed in Canada very conflicting honestly. She was so public about it and she talked so much fucking shit about.
Try automatic suicide. Also, she would definitely be in jail right now. If they could figure out how to put her in jail, they would have loved to then now we will
play some Nirvana tracks for you here on the show today. But Courtney Love owns the rights to most of neurons tunes and am honestly more afraid of corny loved and I am of the church of Scientology rightfully so so, if you ve never heard
Nirvana or only know their heads. I made a Spotify playlist of my favorite Nirvana tracks, along with some of the original virgins, songs, songs, Nirvana, covered on insecticide and unplug. You can find those if you search my name on Spotify our right now. I will say that in doing the research
I of Kurt Cobain, particularly his time with Courtney love. I don't know if I have
rolled my eyes as much as I have on here. In these people talk rain or of that are of em. There
Are they not just because their musicians are worthy of because there are addicted to heroin better
Let me also make our male colleagues when does not make you an interesting person, though, is quite the opposite of yes. I am there also musicians and in a lot of these issues, particularly like the superbly,
ones like her Cobain, not particularly great people, not particularly nice people. A lot of them urged super of noxious and kind of boring. That's why they learn to play the guitar guitar talk. I realise that a lot of listening to an interview with Jimi Hendrix- and I was so surprised because you just like you noticed the qatar- is just like a piano
It's a dinner, like you just say like Dahmer to me, I'm like why thought Jimi Hendrix or be brilliant right. However, I think the generation acts as
I was Kirk obeying is misunderstood. People looked
like they're all doom and gloom. The soundtrack public super depressing music generation exe
we did have a pretty good sense of humour. There were just inside
fallible smart ass, its wiping. We got a lot of our sense of humour from generation. Ex, obviously, we do fairly dark humor gallows, humor, one might call it here at last, podcasting left and they probably of an influence on now yeah battles you kiss, although they probably do Henry Mr Show kids, not all I mean those guys they were funniest love. These musicians, we're funny as hell to and that's the thing about her Cobain
HBO Documentary or Hodge heck seems
pretty hell, bent on portraying Kirk, obeying like a constantly on the edge basket case, who might as well be
a gun to said since his parents divorce, when he was a kid
higher time. I was watching a documentary just like gold Spock, you, oh, oh, my god, ever what their twisted everybody's words. They just please add songs. They would surely these
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it can run around. He was like a very artistically expressive kid and they try to put em on drugs, music, ambrady, hd and like problems paying attention like we all did like I did. I was chained to a fuckin grocery car, that's how they solve my problem:
it's probably healthy warrior for your overall lava food and consumption. Yes, they definitely a weird sexual thing with having a chain from my waist of my ones, e jumper to the grocery carbon. I ran towards visa you're, amazing that Bob from dawn of the dead, let out a cursory to blog via, but that it was just like a thing of tricks, cereal or something, but he would fill you
he's gonna Cameron, he was always like doing our projects and it was like him, film and dogs and stuff, and then they just like put overlooked,
like over each footage, Miller, businessman, sad dogs, should kid fuck around with a video care about what I did, but it was also a perfect. I guess
it was a reaction to the eighties government was so happy and everything was glitter in glam and they were just like screwball that yeah and they also took footage from ninety ninety one, the year punk broke, which was a documentary.
A lot of guys with it was mostly focused on Sonic Youth, like a tour that Sonic Youth Nirvana,
and dinosaur Junior did in Europe in
early Ninetys and they play
is some sort of rock star out of control type a moment like look
How out of control is, but it's just a bunch of goofy kids haven't run because, after you,
so gotta remember these are kids. I winner, but we never mind head cocoa baby, I think, was twenty four
they brought the drummer twenty one, twenty two they were absent. They were just
so they were there. We imagine if you were given.
We're million dollars is a twenty four year old. All of my clothes would be. Beer can have credible.
I might be dressing. Similarly, similarly, the EU in wealth and my nostrils went exist or do we want a whole anti about current Cobain Beynon is
old temperament alot of his friend
the suicide came as a complete and total surprise they never.
Said that he was suicidal sharp. He made some hyperbolic stay,
when some one of the tracks left off in utero was I hate myself and I want to die, but even Kurt himself said emphatically that that was
to joke. He was a smart ass thing that he would say when people ass a girl. How are you doing you go? I hate myself want to die. That's funny. It's just a joke.
I'm not a particularly great joke, but a joke nonetheless ease archimedean. He would have been no worse comedian of all tat. Well, technically, the comedic version of cocoa Bay would be Mitch, Hedberg Ripe, it yeah and and Mitch Hedberg many committees that I know worked with him on the road towards the waning days of his life and he would just get in the field position after shows hang on his or tell him that's heroin. Yet you know it was not good. For him sounds relaxing honest,
I don't know it's like you do it is, is shaking exercise, but I'm not quite sure about in the nineteen twenties it was. Ok was Kirk obeying depressed sure he was agenda, eggs are alive
of a more depressed and moody and thoroughly most time, except for Dave Girl, who always seem to be here
and saw an acute
seem to have a pretty good time most of the time, the only
person. Whoever said Kaliko Bain was suicidal was his wife, Courtney Love and she never mention anything about suicide to anyone until after his death, although it must be said that all those close to him except the suicide conclusion
east publicly. Now you other member, when someone's, really super super famous
buddy. You know in a weird,
Looking around them one,
to show the world that they know them better than anybody else. Let her go. Bain was about property,
People view to him as a piece of property and his friends back at home said the whole thing
how he never wanted to commit suicide. He was happy, go lucky. We really new Kurt were the ones
her. Other people did no car Courtney comes out and says he
to commit suicide agility and we're talking about I'm the only one who knows Kurt. Meanwhile com.
Nowhere in this conversation, because he so fucked up and now useless, because he's of so famous or whatever it is you deal with all the time we and he's got. A lot of pressure on them is very fragile he's just a person is like. I want a pastrami SAM. What shall we say about maybe having gin for lunch? There be amused the dude, so the problem is
story is marred by people talking shit. Did they don't know anything about?
yeah. I mean this is a huge story of he said she said with some evidence thrown in there for good measure, but Courtney that
things that Courtney, when she started talking, especially after the suicide she started, hit and suicide angle hard right as soon as Kurt was dead. In me,
interviews that she immediately gave. She said the colonel
the third or fourth Pham person in his family to commit suicide and calling it the Cobain curse. But the thing is, nobody incur. Cobain family actually committed.
Side before cart the other ones that are cited a lot of the time. They were violent deaths yeah, but they were accidents, although they could be-
wasted to look like suicides, but the
like such we're. Accidents like his uncle like dropped is gone and he got shot in the chest. He was a police officer. He dropped is gone. He popped up, saying, like haze, everybody located relays, he fatally shot himself. Many drop its like these bees. Things are like
come from a legacy of losers because Medina, who is also sort of people who put themselves and positions where death might be more likely like a father who, disgruntled and hates, is like things like it's raining outside a medical fix, the intent on the roof every reins he goes into fixes the instead. I just like- maybe this time, still
you gave me you false God, the other one, the other violent death was
uncle like a grand uncle who felt hadn't aneurysm and fell down the stairs and how they get to the suicide angle with that is they say that he was warned that if he didn't stop drinking, then he was problem
we're going to die, but he kept drinking kind of like how Kirk obeying cat doing heroin
cap putting himself in dangerous situations or perhaps a curse of addiction would be more appropriate. I'd, say sign even
in Iraq and rural lifestyle yeah northern groves
a brain aneurysm who know about that now. The reason why these half truths and many other half truths were repeated ad nauseam without any fact checking was because the main source of news during the aftermath of Kirk Cobain death was Kurt loader from
tv news who repeated everything. Courtney said as Bible fact and the rest of the media followed their lead. When you re Watch said footage of Kurt Loader, you could tell that leave
He this is his bolter Cronkite moment he is put on the serious space he's, got them the old school apple.
Here in front of him, like he's clicking clock and on the very ancient internet, it's pretty impressive is ninety. Ninety four, I mean it's it's very odd: to try to explain to people who were in IRAN, then what im TV was like. Ninety. Ninety, four totally that frame tv news was something that you watched every week and it was like, what's going on with sound garden this we it was pretty. Also, may then you I'll never forget when I actually got to see slashes face other, like they were veal, that sort of it was really a special occasion and dirt, let it literally just sunglasses grafted onto skin. Basically, a kid I can't get above all want. How I m to be news is awesome. Kerr loner is the reason. Kennedy became a libertarian little known for railways. While I just remember tablet,
Sword was a big part of this is while I was caught, it was Curtain Tabitha. They were the co anchors of in fifteen this. This is the most uncle episode we ve ever had. Also, let me tell you what it was like when they use it. I have felt needed interstitial on MTV. It wasn't all just zip zap in Atlanta, hot wives of soccer players, or whatever is now little John highballs Knocker players as do exist from sit down it's time for me to tell you about a little show called the head.
But her bottle shore ahead as amazing. Here with Gregson now concerning those
trees, the first thing you gotta know about Courtney, love. The cheese alive
she's, manipulative, nothing she says, can be trusted, as our statements have been disproven again and again or contradicted by herself throughout the year
but on the other hand, Kurt was also a liar Buzz Osborne.
Melvin, who went to high school with Kurt, so that occur was quote the master of jerk in your chain. He said, and I'm inclined
agree with them that ninety percent of montage of heck is bullshit. Oh yeah, it's all about putting saddened
you're fucking childhood drawings. It's a whole fuckin documentary gap, others
we told in the movie, through recording Kurt made about how he had once tried to focus special needs girl when he was in high school and when everyone found out you try to kill himself by lane in front of a train with a sinner block on his chest, but the train switch tracks at the last minute. Now Buzz said that
There was no way in Hell. He wouldn't heard this story already as Aberdeen watched him where the girl was a small town. Besides buzz, along with all the rest of his friends, would have given current shit about this car
certainly the rightly so it had actually happen. This is
internet era. So this was, though, is the rumour mill all around a middle school in high school boys. Were these interesting stories yeah eyes also important? I think it's important people realise that, like any ambition
ambitious rocks. Are that wants to make it right? O o has any idea of a future scope. Corny love was very naked about that she said what she wanted. She saw
whole of codes, a funny little it's fun pun,
whole and music, and she could put herself into where she greeted this sort of new persona yourself. If you don't think that Kirk
pain had the same idea,
from early on that, once you realize you get the camera in front of you, you know you can reclaim your whole pass in order to make it so
I conic who you are and then a part of this story was about him, do loser prince like he created this really grow story as a part of like almost like making him relate able to gross
users and its import of his fucking brain
we'll cordon was great at brandy and end the interesting thing I did chance due to speak with somebody who got no court. You love fairly intimately working on a project with her and he was saying how she could tell when a rock star was about to break and she was just hook up with them during that time and you
do wonder? Did she help promote them because
was out there. She was vocal. She was
heck of a character,
I don't I'm an obvious, issued its negative shootin many negative things, but she did have a good business sense in that way she did, but she wasn't really involving all that by the time Courtney love came around, never mind had already come out and had been out fur
a little while at that point I mean that the thing is about never mind about Nirvana. Is that nobody expected this to be a hit ibrahim, completely organically
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to obey is undertaken. I have to
that cannot be the only reference in I love that they make up. Furthermore, concern,
The documentary they take a lot of his journal entries completely out of context to reinforce the idea
He was massively suicidal, shaping them to form a narrative, because that's the narrative that they were telling that he was a poor torch
so who is constantly on the edge
and just killed himself one day, or at least that is suicide.
Was just completely inevitable and also,
this time we did have a disconnect with our celebrities, as opposed to now are you can follow them on Twitter? Like you, there wasn't there
that notion of you want your rock stars dead, sort of classic bill. Hicks bitten stumbling that, as opposed to now, words like I've, follow them on Twitter and you have more of an intimate relationship theatrical being with a larger Europe.
And it's much larger than just a human being and also
Nirvana hated, giving interviews they hated the rock press, us
you're a. It was pretty words that you can't get any like actual rare tidbits information out of these guys and at the sinner
of that entire narrative of Kirk, obeying being tortured so whose suicide was inevitable. Was Courtney love who comes off looking just tarnished,
up in the movie, but otherwise rosy. As far as the only person
Ever truly understood, cart.
There's some things in their that make her look bad, but for the most part she really is portrayed
as a loving wife who fucked up a couple of times, but it completely glosses over how fuckin tumultuous the relationship really was. Will she also approach the dirt
or of the documentary to make the documentary where it's funny how it becomes like that, how you become the year of the story, when you ask do to make it
humanity about your dead ex husband here and I will
I guess I'm going to just describe their parenting, texting it techniques as unique. That's the best. I could say, I guess a brilliant person I'll be at highly manipulative one of the
at a reform school. She was sent to as a teenager called Courtney. The most shrewd cunning, devious person, the caseworker, had ever seen something that Courtney was very proud of, but one thing she didn't necessarily let slip is that she was a trust fund.
And she was sixteen she sued for emancipation from her mother and receive an eight hundred dollars a month stipend. Almost too
thousand dollars in today's money, and she use that money,
to insert herself in certain scenes, she show huge show up like a suit.
Case full acid or win
started going to ban practices to hang out with people she'd by all the food. So she got people to trust her that way, that's hush
got her foot in the door allotted time by now
can see that leader manipulative order.
You can say it's actually just a good idea and a part of business. She saw a thing that she wanted to be a part of an essentially that just me
you're producer like now would do is terms edges. What a producer does a producer shows a with money and does things to make things cortical easier or our help things along. So, in a way it it was like she was creating jobs. She was go walking into a place being like. I will provide Gordy lovers, they ve been going out and Warren Buffett of Alternative Rock raises make about small job creation about that address, trickled down
corny. She was also mean, as vocs reward
a number. These horrible ceases terrible things that are true about people like she said the Dave growled tried to fuck. Her daughter
all right. You just look just like her. What the weird thing is about France is being Cobain. Courtney, encouraged daughter, is that when she was first born, she looked just like Kurt, but as she's gotten,
you're an has gotten closer to her mother. She looks a lot more like Courtney,
just now you around her face, though she had some worked on she shaved or face down to make it look thinner. She was getting the broad face. The cause is not an entertainment. Had I don't. I don't care about this, but Will Courtney Father, who has no doubt the Courtney had Kurt killed but
ass his own agenda and is a pretty big piece of shit in his own right said. She would make fun of his weight and aunt em
but his looks like this is what he said she had their smack for making me feel worthless an ugly she, so
they put in people down. She used to write me letters and call me or fat fuck and father and almost like a play. Let's just fuckin slow these down for a second, maybe call me bald, for I don't know the obviously a mom says,
about the way she seems do really ever have changed you in a way made you sadder, yeah yeah.
Hasn't changed the weight bill, probably already big hatchet and your father has been so emotionally tormented your magic call, your father fact wanting Gordy love was also violent and, according to some, had a habit of hiring people to do her dirty work for
An ex boyfriend said when she was coming up in L, a scene she would pay.
She knew a hundred bucks to beat someone up if they pissed off. For that's the problem is that that you don't know
torsion, and I dont eventually this story, all sorts of feel that eventually the story starts to be alike, its high school rumours that got turned into
international news now, because ever ones a millionaire. I, like the idea of Courtney, loving the Tanya hardly enough,
That's a greater hundred bucks, go kneecap, there's something you don't want apartment and obliging courting a lot. I just know it by the end of all this court he's gonna Thunderbird dislike, you look liking, IRAN, Hubbard Hindoo, and I am ready to create
John. You went out their pay and a guy to beat somebody up. They problem is that in the pond community we just give guy a hundred dollars, he's gonna binary,
you cheat oh yeah, and let you know that you're not gonna beat somebody appeasement spent all his high for three days: oral, just role it up any, but I don't have any money availability on your dollar bill. I thought that was for coke what're. You spend the money and United Corneas credit.
Holding have bad holes, actually pretty fucking good. The out the first album pretty on the inside is pretty good, but I'd say you don't
be better off, listen like bikini, kill or babes in Thailand, or else Abner Sutton, like that. If you're looking for more substance
all right girl, material and even if you're looking for like super good sludge, gopher mud honey, so it was
no idea, the worst Marcus just his brother. I honestly I'll just sounds like type
We get a vacant Athos, bikini zone.
Is that a ninety? Ninety one Courtney love was actually a risk
back did musician in her own right as pretty on the inside was getting very positive reviews and for Kurtz part Nirvana break out album
never mind had already been released and was an almost immediate hit, and we really can overstate how big nevermind actually was.
Then nine weeks the album was certified platinum selling a meal-
The copies in this is a ban that very few people had heard. They were big in the underground seem like a lot, because this is their second out. Bleach had come out a couple of years earlier and eighty nine, I think so people now
who they were, but and also for the most part like this music
and on the radio at all, the music was so good that people bought at grown men bought it even
there was a naked baby on the company will now a days you just can't have naked babies anywhere because of the pedophiles come out of the bucking woodworks run back in the day it was arc and PETE Town,
loved in recent years, doing research and smells like team spirit that hit that made the whole album. It was such a head that call gate page.
Six hundred and seventy million
in dollars to acquire. The makers of the deodorant team spirit
because that's what it was named out. It was, unlike Kathleen Hand from looking
He kill oak had written Kurt smells like team spirit on Kurtz Wall, and that's all
the title of the song comes from just smells like team spirit and just to give you
of how far reaching this really was in a pop culture context and in a commercialism context. Here's a commercial from ninety ninety two from the team spirit, deodorant
Smells like team spirit abuse in good now promised knowledge. Being this, I knew its another team spirit. Avis regret. This smells like team Spirit
are the worst generation. Yes, I love the like the state, the the ozone depleting greenhouse, admitting natural out like its natural
so natural is not spread. A budget chemicals under our partner, not teen spare, was a row on. Oh that's. Why I was able to have so many wonderful flavors,
they bought it alone. Applying these neurons labour and by the way, did you like this role on you know what it was born right guaranteed. Is that the same thing to me when I was tumblr about this year? They ended up, you know after they bought it. It was so popular they make in ten different flavour is infuse, like, I don't think flavors.
Right was a wise labour. If you look at it, it's the only labour you'll get is not
Maybe in autism comes from it
not sure what happens. If you look nothing but roll on deal for years by January
one? Ninety nine into Nirvana had kicked Michael Jackson off the top of the charts. That's how big this was. They kicked off fucking, Michael Jackson, but
Thirdly, they were replaced the very next week by Robin and in the wind, by Garth, Brooks love Garth
will it be mad rodeo on the issue and as they ban when in ninety ninety one eye?
so, if you know my small Texas town, we didn't really here never meet.
And and hell a young man named Branding Kelly this poor mother Fucker move?
from Seattle, washing tell to Rochester check it like ninety. Ninety two, if, like everyone is it like the best fan and understood Turco, Baines Pain? The motors was this man, but he went he brought with them all like the nerve, honour, albums and a whole bunch of other, like awesome music from that time period, and he was friends with my brother,
My brother introduced me to all this music through. That's that's how I came upon his pretty fuckin us. Your parents must have been so scared, Nirvana TED,
Andy pictures on the wall and get your window old age. Tell everybody how you hope to find a skeleton
that is built in a day. More did used to do that. I go out and I feel like we were not
material. In our description one time I did find a Iraq that look kind of like an ear, and I kept that because
I thought it was an error bone. That's your job rate store,
You are known for my stories.
Never mind would stay on the billboard top two hundred for almost five years and to give you an idea of what that's worth now
Obeying estate made fifty million dollars in two thousand six alone when corny love
twenty five percent of her stake in IRAN. A bat catalogue to music publishing company Boeing, Kurt in Courtney, met Cobain had
to see any of that money, and the ban was still shown up to two hundred capacity venues in a shitty van with their gear carried behind many, you hall. While this
came out of absolutely nowhere like they couldn't even keep up with their own success news on this backdrop, that Kurt in Courtney met at a ball.
Whole surfers concert in LOS Angeles. The two a media
Lee bonded over their mutual loves, a fuckin in heroin and we're inseparable from then on.
According to court, you love. Would she told me
she said was that she had been going after Kirk for really long time, sheep and try to date Kurd trying.
Carbon. He was always Miriam, oblivious to female attention like he was always here because of his grey. He was very, very shy like a painfully shy, and so we didn't know how do I connect girls, and so what you did
that she kept going after I'm going after me, cause of, though what we were saying she knew tat. He was gonna, be a fucking massive rockstar and she made an altar in her house where she said. Please, let me let my boyfriend be the world's biggest rockstar like she was obsessed with. That knows. What is this? What you write a fright until we know what sociable Chernobyl would she too says is that which is it if its not a true story? It's disgusting why you would even make it up and that she was kind of like suck. My dick of this other, like music manager,
and bribed Jim, essentially like kind of like teased him to get her ticket
to the show to that, but whole server show an plane tickets and he bought or ship they're out there. She got on Kurt and finally, just was like you're my boyfriend now and he's.
Big o er. I reminds me of single ace. Ventura, remind you think. All Finkel didn't like did marina and battlements. You wanted to get Dan Marino and Finkel became iron horn, tat light in order to get Dan Marino
single design horn, I when I enormous Finkel sprinkle, not some claim that
Courtney was only in it for the money that she lodged on occur because she saw potential to this point. I actually believe
Courtney when she says that she honestly thought that she was
to be more famous than cart, that's because there is actually evidence to back that up when they get married. It was Courtney
who insisted that they sign a preen up in this was even
the massive success of nevermind bake. It already see that he was gonna gotta, be a huge rockstar that there was gonna be hundreds of thousands. If not,
billions of dollars come in, but she believed
she was gonna be more famous than him one day. This was about power couple. This is not about money. Is it about the boat them with? This
thing about like Concord, integrity and about doing it the right way and getting respect and both of them thought
is that I am a queen. I oh Mamma,
powerful woman in the world. Should I not be with the most powerful man in the world. Together we will be the most research
did fucking royalty of rock, and
and so she saw that far ahead of that she's, like I'm building this forecourt, essentially like we're gonna, be a power couple forever,
Jason beyond, say to some degree, does the
at the latest son degree, but daisy beyond, say they weren't junkies. No, they are not a matter of fact. There there actually its basic. I was watching the concert of beyond say nose like what I started sweated yeah, because it is physical labour as opposed to Khartoum. Mostly sat the egg sat
yeah. Well, no man, I ve ever wider Georgia alive shows, like their lives, shows, were amazingly energetic, like they were a fantastic vanity,
No, I don't want your mother, not unplugged. Wasn't the only concert, thereby- and no I just don't want to watch it will be all active because then it's like am I supposed to be, but what is happening
I mentioned junkies. Let's talk about heroin, Kurt
was a junkie into a lesser extent. So was Courtney? Courtney had about a twenty dollar a day habit, but Kurt at his worst was spending four hundred dollars a day on Heroin Courtney liked being fucked
but only a little bit got she liked being aware. She liked being
being able to manipulate people being control of herself now Kurtz excuse,
for the heroin was that he used it to self medicate. A debilitating stomach pain that plagued and throughout his twenties and all we got worse after the success of never mind. So this guy was as what
says that he was dealing with a lot. I mean first, he was Europe is debilitating stomach pains and he was also dealing with being famous when he never really wanted to be famous. He wanted to make a living doing his music, but he wanted to be. You know upon Crocker, like you wanted to just gonna, be a guy
they could go out. There make good albums play good music.
He never wanted to be an icon. You never wanted to be a superstar. I think he's an introvert right, he's get more and a lot of musicians are introverted and that's where they they attach themselves to the music and the music makes them famous. Nother grew stunning personalities like us, but
it was a psychosomatic than the orders.
We have also seen that comes too late, said that you they were red spots, he would go to the doktor and they would skein his stomach any and weird abrasions and weird it's a sound like he was just a shitty kid and also had a terrible die, the ever tariff
Diet lived on Fucking Coca COLA in fucking per day,
the chips in heroin old time. Not many people point
Kurtz comments about his stomach pain during this time period as an indication that he'd always been suicidal. As he had said in interviews, that era was the only thing keeping him from blowing his head off but again according
but when the Melvin Skirt told him tat, the stomach pains never even existed, and it was just a good
I used to do heroin under a cloud of sympathy. I see that sounds like a shitty junk
should you joke to have honestly, it sounds like he's making a joke about the heroin use and stomach pain because he really was in pain. I also think that Kirk Cobain was a good little bit of a hypocrite in terms of he wanted everything exactly how
wanted he wanted in India, little career and but he loved the money
of yours, the money he loved, all the famous lot. He loved how big the music God, but he wanted it both he wanted. You think that you could live one life and have be rockstar on foot
Wednesday and Thursday be able to go to the supermarket, but that is not how work, of course, while I don't think actually dont know if he did love the money, all that much he loved the heroin ordered about every like that Marianna. He definitely love that money, but actually, I think he did kind. He liked the fame of the fans because
obeying what he used to do is pretty or too, and he wanted to get away for a little bit. He'd go to a park or someplace like that. You look for kids with Nirvana T shirts and he got himself hey. I'm Kirk, obeyed
your autograph or something like that
ever turned away: Fanny never turned away and autographs,
the media attention that he hated more than ensure like it. He and he did not want to have both ways. He wanted to be a door bias
bans and make music for the kids, but he didn't want to have to deal with the business side of it. Then, unfortunately, yet music,
It's a fucking. Business right always has been especially then you're much more of a cog in a large machine as opposed to now are you can become a Youtube story,
control your own creative destined. Yet there was a lot of people's paychecks that depended on Icrc, Cobain, well over cases
I don't I see as an old wives arts, but whether Kirk obey was line or not about the stomach pain. By the time of his death. It was no longer a problem, a core
two Kurt himself, reportedly, a doctor diagnose the source as a pinch nerve that resulted from his
Scully owes its, but some people also say that when he said, like all my stomach pains cured, he was just talking about heroin that
we found a medication that word with it and that medication was heroin. We just don't
We know there is a lot at the it's just a lot of shit. Just we just don't really know. Well, I mean at this point I don't recall oxy continent being a thing. It wasn't,
wasn't around right. If you would have been prescribed something like that, he who knows he probably would have been
died from that younger, exactly like so many other far. People are dying right now. Now, unfortunately, by
at the time. The summit
was courting quote cured. He was all
a full blown attic, although he would make multiple attempts to get clean, specifically after the birth of his daughter, France's being who can
only be seen as the face of the new mark checkups campaign here in New York said and look at them as he's on billboards. Now it's nice to be talk about a fellow model. Doesn't do you, like my big it by the way? Came our what's going on where's, my big until a campaign that anyway, I don't want to get into that by all accounts. Kurt was an extremely low
in an dedicated father, but not
dedicated to stop doing heroin altogether,
the weeks leading up to his death, Cobain, reportedly o deed, multiple times, just not bad enough to go to the hospital in people
that it was actually Courtney who revived him. Those times that he, oh deed, is, could point
or towards the suicide angle, as it is possible, Hughes attempting, suicide, each time and finally decided to use a shock on on the final try to make it stick, but the heroin has its.
Story to tell, as will get into on the next episode I'll tell you what it is
sleepy story. I just don't fully understand heroin is on a party drug. It's such a yeah. I guess it's very personal experience. I suppose yeah it's eighty replaces everything yet all point
that replaces everything. It lowers all stakes because
said so that you just don't give a shit about anything. So you know
reboot your career. You have to worry about marriage, not to worry about being a dad. You not to worry about anything, just evens the playing field. To the point where you are a fucking walking skeleton! Yes come a zombie person wants a drug of despair yeah. So, despite a new kid being
produce into the makes things were rapidly deteriorating with Courtney. First, there was the money which is getting
more and more important to Courtney, love and when the role of each
for never mind, started coming Courtney Notice, the Dave grow the drama and currently singer Abou Fighters and Chris Nova Solid basis and currently pull
activists and six point, seven
yeah, wonderful, big, very Ptolemy than they used to mock him when I was growing, riddled with clocks slavic like no occurred, Courtney notice that the other two guys in the ban were getting the same share is Kurt. Despite curbing the principal songwriter, when they first sign the never mind the other look at three ways: what why the fuck else we
where do it any other way? It was like a upon groggy those typing, and I mean you say like
Cobain loved the money I mean along as yet.
A hundred dollars a day. He was buying that's a limit on money, more device. Today, that's a harem, I think about, but think about what you saving on food being about with that kind of money or same, and it's like he's making money right we're. Yet he liked the money,
but he was never greedy about the money he didn't nest.
Early care about having a huge house. So in fact, when Hemming Courtney bought a big house outside of Seattle, the house again and dying in you
They they use embarrassed to live out there and when he would go and say out and hotels, he would register he would stay at flee trap.
Indeed always is upon, they he'd always register under the name Bill Bailey, which was Axel roses, real name, real
Will they have this weird viewed? I remember I remember this. Do skimming hurdles actual rose I believed in the ring was was getting the ring about Kirk obeying get will get the rings about all the people. The pistol facts arose, acts are utterly a hundred and fifteen
If we had an erection everything I could fight a fly, jammed the entire world and again this is where it to be honest, it always makes me man. I think the problem is that he was also a small town, kid who is the child
divorce. He was kind of unwanted by a bunch of people shuffled around from family members and shit like that. So it is felt like you didn't deserve any thing, but it is also a kind of purposefully dawn gets good. It's also this weird self conscious thing like he doesn't want.
Show that he cares about the money. Now he's got all this money. He was such a perfect Kirkeby
such a perfect musician for your latchkey get yet the kid who comes home parents aren't there there still working I'll, take care of yourself. He was ideal for that now about these royalties Courtney, reportedly freaked out when she found that he that the other guys we're getting an equal share, an hounded Kurt to do something about it, even though by all accounts,
really give a fuck about the money right Courtney. Finally, warm down enough that he eventually demanded a larger share which actually almost broke up Nevada because they called is buff on it. You them in
cocoa beans getting warm tongue dear, and there, like guy men, get that's pretty much. What does like www? What are you doing? Why? What is it ladders drama? Yet what why? Even
bring this up
Chris was like we should do it by height and I'll take ninety percent of the money or the other guy's a they eventually agreed and life moved on shore
Then there was in utero now at one point, it is obvious that car loved Courtney very much and vice versa, I'd. They lay a few
see interview. If you read interviews with cargo, Bain AM with Courtney love. If you see how they were together, it's obvious they were
these too weird kind of shooting kid
who actually for a while. I had a great time together, while I think that she obviously did love him, and this might be a little bit hyperbolic. But the fact that she stayed clean during the pregnancy is kind of a sign
was really happy with it. Well now you don't come really see. No did not real challenges. That, owing to the beginning of the presidency, is doing drugs at the beginning of the pregnancy and then came back basically public opinion for sort of pool and all back and forth and clean up
parliament. Ok, I was under the impression well either way she's that France has been doing great. I hear she's a model.
That is all you have to get baby. It is true that will ensure that the big controversy behind Corti, loving car Cobain is that corny love had done in any
you with Vanity Fair magazine in which she had pretty off
and we mention that she had been doing heroin daring, her pregnancy?
I mean in the world when I came out the world freaked out and in fact I ass air France is being was born
child protective services took her way for about three weeks. Must I have a little break? Well, that's the thing about Courtney. Most people did love her at first
The more a person was around her, the less they seem to like her. She was super charming. A lot of people say was very easy to fall in love with Courtney Love, but
the more they were her, the more the word abrasive was used. Imagine if the name of her band was love and her name
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three Kurt was writing lyrics, like those heard on all apologies in which he sang married buried over and over and over again a man. It's a great right. It's a great guy. It's only to go down to just right
and on hardship, bogs box, which was named for the first give Corti ever gave Kurt. He saying
oh down your umbilical knew, so I can climb right back along with I've, been
in to your magnet tar pit trap, which is the growth
We can describe someone such ideas that when they said, you said that you have our picture using a rare disease called gargoyle Bobo words charcoal Black, didn't realize that you know a little bit about what that looks like, but I want document, in other words spoken about this,
where they were not the lyrics of a man happy with his marriage, but
other hand. He was again smart, ass, any
have been writing these lurks as a response to the public's opinions about Courtney, which needs zay not high at this point because of vanity fair article, but also to bring
looking beyond Say in Jersey. Again. She just did the same shit to him and that lemonade thing where she used the relationship Brahma to sell fuckin records
So it's the same shit. It's like he could be doing the same exact thing. I don't think he was doing it to sell records, though behind is because this is a purposefully non coming.
Your album may Hard Steve Albanie, whose idea that big underground producer to record this out because they didn't want to just repeat never mind because of vat.
Said, they didn't like never mind that much, because the production was so amazingly slip. Slicking, commercial, Steve, Albanie, I'm sorry edged immediately. Pictured somebody pushing a hot dog garden is esteem.
Being he's waiting on round me.
Is, is nothin bout pure
tar or in any event we are able to make a music unbearable for fallen in love and actually Steve, albeit one of his bans, is big. Black, ok and big black slackened. Awesome industrial base, Stephen
and he is behind a lotta. Your favorite album sees amazing and didn't like a fucking, great job, actually
using in utero, and even though they didn't use all the songs that hybrid that's a whole day.
Conversations good these on a hot dog salesmen earlier or knows what had to kill him either way people describe Courtney treatment,
during an around the recording of in utero as nothing short of terrible. I should constantly hurl abuses way
favorite insult being dumb fuck. Then she column dumb fuck over and over again, and she was
She was always fond of saying that he couldn't he couldn't hale a cab by himself that he was because he was weaker,
completely and totally emotionally dependent on our right and he was addicted to heroin, so he probably was acting. You no kind of foolishly
there also are using. I haven't we not a great personal yachts, not nice, to say to somebody them. He also liked that someone else was calling the shots, because then he did
Have you again is high on our one? All the time he's overwhelmed constantly about his job in all this shit that easier with he loved it. Corti wanted to come in and take care of everything, because then she gave him something right. But if you listen to some people, it was becoming pretty obvious that he was getting tired of it. A march first nineteen,
Ninety four, just a month before Cobain death, he supposedly called his lawyer from Backstage Nirvana lie last show and told her that here
drop a will, specifically exe
brooding Courtney. As a benefactor. I can't wait till we get this successful. We are calling divorce lawyer is already putting or we step on stage. Do last pod guessing left lot. Henry you're not married. We can't do give you a divorce, I'm trying to get divorced from chocolate, seek obey
was, according to the lawyer, planning to leave Corti and because they had signed a print up. Courtney was
and only get a small settlement if anything at all, the lawyer also said, Corti had called her
to find the meanest most deville, most vicious divorce lawyer in town and also ass. If it was at all possible to avoid the preen, both her and Curt had said,
and now there was indeed a well drawn up just before cards death according to police, but curtain, Kurt hadn't had a chance to sign it yet and police have referred.
Is to reveal whether or not it does indeed exclude Courtney, and some say it was odd that a man is met. Twenties would have even had a will which point stored suicide again, but when he factor in that he was at this,
a multi millionaire with an extremely dangerous drugs. Have it right is not so far of a stretch. I agree also he was dead yet aren't you haven't kid that shit sort papa? Could then it's about making short something's gonna happen? You gonna give you the money go to the cop. That's gonna go to his daughter. So after that
show in Germany Kurt cancelled the rest of their european Torah. Due to a throat ailments,
food around where he was joined by courtney- and this is the site of the supposed first suicide attempt according to Courtney after dinner- are March third, one thousand nine hundred and ninety four Kirk called up a bellboy at the hotel where they were staying in sin,
To pick up a prescription for a hit, no better known as the date rape drunk all right away, saw absolutely right away. Need salt, Nepal, sleep on your own, dig up slowly I'll. Do that boys bellboy also what they gave
buddy or what they gave, Jason in Freddy versus Jason, really that's what that guy injected into his neck. Remember, then, you get slice, sliced and half rohypnol when the bellboy we're
Curtain Corny ordered two bottles of champagne and proceeded to makes booze
hills would you should never ever ever ever. Do right now
pessimism Bailey, I hope you enjoy. This it'll help suicide cocktail. We don't need me help with bags on all you'll. Be there soon up these annual tippins Volor Bellboy, wiser bellboy in black and white to Courtney woke up. She found Kurt unresponsive with blood coming out of his nose, and so she called an ambulance according
in montage of AG that this was a suicide attempts. He had done it. She said, because she had thought about cheat non and that's it that she had until autumn had even told them she was taken about it, but just
thank him that she was gonna? Do it was enough to send him over the, but she still made it about herself. Yeah yeah proposed to us
obviously crying out for help. Yap ensure
this isn't a documentary that they pompous, sixty seven pills out of his stomach win at another
interview had said that they pump fifty pills out of his stomach. Now I don't know where the fuck she's, gettin proscriptions filled, and I don't know how it works in ITALY, but it seems a little unlikely that they were able to send a bellboy out into the night to get over. Seventy tablets of an extremely powerful tranquilizer, now called museum prescriptions us as seventy bales. Are you trying to killing time hotel? Well, that's a good idea. Things Zephiel set up the easiest, bought it
never seen Ranuzia vague Wanta get an elephant Alice Coopers Bedroom majority vote the drunk. I tell you what you did it did, and also the doktor who actually treated
pain of a hospital said that there were nowhere near that many pills in a system and that it did not appear to him at all that this was a suicide attempts. He was just being an idiot, but the question does remain. If Courtney wanted Kurt Dead, why would she
an ambulance. Why not just let him die then right interesting, because you have not signed the fucking will. Yet what are we actually used? All set up tissue? Just killed a man,
mistakes. Hindsight is twenty twenty rhetoric eulogists, let him die was also on. Rufus
also on gap. She was also on rupees by choosing a quick to act. I really don't. I dont think that she why she's not a stone, cold killer, no she's, not she's, not a stone, cold killer.
But you also wonder if this was a suicide attempts, then why didn't she tell anybody? Why did she keep it to yourself? Why did she not say to any one like hey? We should probably lie
after Kurt a little bit. He suicidal ripe either way after Cobain woke up from a brief, come the to return to Seattle. A couple weeks later, on March, eight
with Courtney, called no Mamma, saying Kurt, had locked himself in a room with several weapons and was threatening suicide. In this
another incident. The people point to bolster the suicide claim, but the patrol officer who showed up
seen told a very different story. He said when he showed up. Courtney was standing on the front porch screamin Kurt was inside, it was going to kill him.
But when the officer winner run back to enter the house through the back door, he said that he found co
standing in the back yard, with his hands in his pockets.
And looked seems suicidal just deeply embarrassed after answering a few questions. Cobain admitted that he just locked himself in a room after an argument and just didn't want to deal with his wife and Courtney. Herself admitted that she didn't seem with a gun and he did not say that he was gonna, kill himself. That goes out
Courtney love is just a gods, ill assize pain in the ass behind and they need it. I mean they're just an immature couple. I yeah this is what an immature couple. I'm lock it myself my room, yeah opposed to dealing with the issue exactly, but nevertheless, this incident still use to this day is hard evidence that Cobain was soon
in the weeks leading up to his death and to be fair. If
was indeed a suicide. Attempts than Courtney would have had reason a freak out if he locked himself way, as there were indeed guns in the house, but even though it might
been a misunderstanding. Cop still confiscated olive Cobain guns and Curt was left weaponless, and this is when Kurtz friend Dylan Karlsson comes onto the scene. This is another piece of fuckin
work. All of the people that were surrounded and their inner circle were just such garbage junkies that its use.
Fuckin right so rough, nobody cared about them, create Albans house.
Like a libertarian paradise drugs have all the gods. Yet I mean
the other members of Nirvana, actually lived in the same city as car.
Bain. They saw him every once in a while him people would come in and out, and they get was. Chris nervous Alec that said that he saw Cobain a couple weeks before his death and he said that he looks.
Shit. He was young out. He was on heroin
I'll get the people that they surrounded themselves with yeah, I mean
Junkies hang out with junkies behind Chris was he was begun.
Or so Heroin, heroin, addicts and alcoholics. You know that's not upon mixed up they'll. That's usually, but,
as if you're doing heroin and drink and you're gonna die. Yes, now, a March thirtieth nine days before Kurtz body was found, Cobain and Dylan went to Seattle. Gunshot called stand Baker sports
and bought a Remington twenty gauge shock on undertone same as Kurt was afraid. The cubs confiscate that when as well if it was under his
no what sport is shooting yourself in the head. You go and I love it. All. These goods are always at sporting goods. Georgia's, like we have opened up as one who got shot guns of issuers idle rose above the balls. The current was a pretty stalked second amendment, guy
he needed a gun for protection as he didn't have bodyguards, and he was without a doubt the biggest rocks are in the world. At this point, except for maybe Axel rose now, Co Baines friend Dylan maintains that he never thought Cobain was suicidal.
Otherwise. He would know bottom a fuckin chalk on, but on the other hand, Dylan was a junkie. Just like Kurt might not have been in the most perceptive state. With this time
Mitchell really rockstar front. Ass, asked you to buy a shotgun under your name. Does that idea that rooms pretty irresponsive
all of these are, after all, his guns were already taken away: yeah, yeah yeah. So after a drop in the gun off, Addison
Cobain got on a plane and travel to allay to check into rehab. To give it one more go at the exodus recovery Centre he spent.
Days there before escaping over a brick wall and travelling back to Seattle? And this is when things get murky were not exactly sure win. Kirk Cobain died as he had been dead for a few days by the time he was found on April eight. What we do know is that, according to a newly released police report, a taxi driver picked up a guy from Cobain House on April second and drove him to a gun store
I some shock and bullets now. Do you tell the taxi driver? That's what you're doing he asked the taxi driver. He told the taxi driver
My house got broken into a couple days ago and I need to buy symbolic from our shock for protection. Where should I go to buy shock on bullets in the taxi driver? Took him to a sporting got started, go my also give you some from free and it may be kiss my wife. For me, I am a bit of what has been called it
What killed you become upon? The logic is my wife. You baby belies Zoo named you, jerk leaves Kirtland. Can we just go this way
and good store. I think hurting volleyball. However, the police,
or does not say specifically, that the driver took Kirk Cobain to the gun store it? Just ass quote a male and whether it was Kurt or not. Cobain was dead from a gunshot wound
the head, along with the massive Heroin Eau DE, maybe by April fifth, at the latest. Just a couple days after Courtney love higher private investigator Tom Grant
introduce on our next episode. My
It really is sad that its very, as you know, I pen Oswald, actually too quick great quote about drugs and alcohol, how they always beat art native Kirk obeying, could have
stayed healthy, I mean he would probably doing Mark Jacob adds right now as well. If you're model, I don't think you're the only that you do
advertising for talk about New York. We got the new financial loop coming out with their growers in every sense loop loop. Then we would have no problem with it with himself out like that. I actually the car Cobain,
is for me the
Only artist who died young, who I truly
meant the loss of the music he would have made yeah, I say, Kirk obeying throughout the years, would have come up with some pre amazing stuff, and we have done some gray collaborate.
Yup you dont, like a circle Simpson thing I imagine going through a whole fades like do you like hard core, weird country, shake that's what he fantasized about a bunch of interviews, but how you want to just be an acoustic guitar player like
Later life. He was really bodies like now
jump brown old timer. I can't wait for when I'm old, when I get to sit on a stool and play guitar. Yes like, like a Roger,
Gwen, who has in sleepy hollow, which is amazing. You I'm in here
we been his early fifties, he would be fifty years
you would be so young ideal yeah. I think he would turn fair yeah yeah, you would have been extremely young and I think he would have. I think he probably
been an artist for a little while, but if it was indeed that he was finding TAT divorce, Corti, love and kind of go off on his own, I really do think
he would have been an artist for a little while and would have eventually ended up put not some some pretty amazing music. Maybe you have just gone the Jack White Route and just becoming upholstery.
In fact, that was just a pulsar furniture was lingering journey job that somebody else does it want, because he chooses like would forget data they lose became a shoe cobbler people were sick, cobbling shoe
but you know I Henry some people love cobbler into. Why not it's true. True all rights or the next episode.
Get into some of the conspiracies around what happened- and I guess like market said before we're going to prevent both sides in and let the audience make their decision.
Marcus you will? Let us know your personal thoughts at the end of an exceptional
I have an opinion. I definitely have an opinion by your fear. It balanced here yet air and valid because,
This is something that nobody's ever really done before, where its
There's somebody that's hard core on one side or hard core on the other, but you know we're really trying to look at all angles here, because really that that can spare
See itself is really the interesting part here. Why people believe this conspiracy? I do have one question: was there a robot made,
What do they have a robot made? They did not have a rose I'll take it. I was gonna sit robot made did it, but I guess lonely. I could see she came alive and became jealous of the fact that current Cobain could choose to make music because robots cannot understand the organic Roy
They make me as was not of the programme to come. So how did you take? How could you choose the bull, your brains out with a Fuckin Freedom tribunal? I can see why robot would be. I'm gonna go back really
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