On the first of a multi-part series on the Oklahoma City bombing, we cover the events of April 19th, 1995, in which a domestic terrorist named Timothy McVeigh parked a 7000 lb truck bomb in front of a federal building in Oklahoma City, OK and detonated it, killing 168 people and injuring over 800.
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Oklahoma, where the wind comes and dumplings I it's not it's going to be it's not going to be as fun as a musical noise. Definitely wouldn't know. Today we're going to be talking about Oklahoma City, of course, at the bombing that occured in nineteen ninety five extremely heavy topic, but
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research in here and a lot of information? That's going to be enlightening to our audience so on
19th, one thousand nine hundred and ninety five at conspiracy Minded Gulf war. Vet named Timothy Mcveigh parked a seven thousand pound ammonium nitrate fuel bomb, loaded on a yellow Ryder, moving truck in front of Alfred P, Murrah Federal building in downtown Oklahoma City. When all was said and done after the bomb was detonated, one hundred and sixty eight people were dead and over eight hundred were injured and, honestly, that's his biggest crime is second,
crime is owning that neon, Yellow mercury- oh my God drove around it, which is discussed it so pastel, yellow, alright, will get into some of his interesting car choices. To say the least, although I will say this episode, no yacht which that's kind of a big deal, I don't touch Oklahoma. It's landlocked! Ok, now, according to
say this act of domestic terror was done in part as retaliation for the siege at the
Carmel Compound in Waco TX, the climax of which came two years to the day before at the Oklahoma City bombing. For those you don't know,
Waco Siege involved a cult name. The branch davidians the Davidians were stock,
filing various weapons the ATF got when they decide
to raid the place and fuct up the entire operation. Spectacular now I will say I do not support what the government federal government did regarding Waco or will get into Ruby Ridge, but JANET Reno.
A perfectly by Will Ferrell on Saturday Night live, and so that was a that is a writing session. Yeah yeah exactly and the branch davidians were not good. No, no good did it do good thing with the looks like a up everything and we're gonna.
That they're gonna up a lot more as the time goes, and I don't know why, because it seems like a very sensitive place, it seems like everyone should be really good at their jobs and yeah. It seems to be really really messed up. They bungled this after bubble, but that's true about the end of the fifty one day, Waco siege. Seventy six branch davidians, including twenty five children, had died in a fire and set under the direction of cult leader, David Koresh, as government agencies storm the compound, in a last ditch effort to flush out the cult members. No, there was a lot
the bad shit happening in that compound, not the least of which was David Koresh is multiple child brides in which would have been totally cool if he had made Annie Hall first, this is
basically Woody Allen. Jokes were gonna. Let that pass. Thank you. But of course, this is where a lot of the conspiracy theories come in as well. When it comes to the fire. There's a lot of different
and stuff like you can see them sprain in napalm in those sorts of things which are not well yeah, that that wasn't what it was tear gassed. They David Koresh, set the fires right to kill everyone. There was audio recording of the band, saying, like David said, to put for the fuel right to get David said to pour the fuel men, which we have more you're right. Yeah
and we'll also get a lot more into those videos that show the flames.
Lee coming out of the tanks in Waco? That's going play
a huge part in this story. Videos an rumors like that. These conspiracy theories have real life ramifications and that's what we're talking about here? They absolutely do it 'cause! That's! The thing is that the radical right didn't see it, though,
way, they didn't see it as David Koresh had all these child brides that needs to be free and their minds, and specifically in the mind of Timothy Mcveigh. Waco was proof that all the conspiracy theories that have been swirling around gun shows and pamphlets for years were finally coming. True,
remember, honestly. If gun shows
so bad. It does sound like a lot
yeah. I mean if they were, like literally like Beverly Hills, cop three, where you just had a really Corky
european dude selling your huge weapons, that's fun and you have a crime that you have to solve and stuff, but usually it's just people who want to get an arc
of guns to protect their families from cows. Yeah now remember
on. This is pre internet. If you wanted to get ahold of wacky shit, you had to go out of your way, an look for it contribute old days. Yeah. You had to really work to be a conspiracy theory. Manthey respected, like you, remember the dude,
to go to in union square the big fat guy that were weird sunglasses at night, and you have to go through his piles of stuff. The find the really fuckedup esoteric documentaries about how like Martin Luther king was was half jewish and he was a scientist cyborg legs that was that was back in the day. It's a similar thing when, like when weed is legalized. You no longer have to hang out with the weird guy who just wants to chill for ninety minutes, and you try to get out of your apartment as quick as possible. Yeah see conspiracy,
it's about the new world order coming to take away your guns and subjugate the american people that she wasn't in your pocket right, you had to go searching on the fringes for that type of thought and Waco wasn't even the beginning. For these
as far as the far reaching new world order conspiracies, went less than
earlier. The ATF have participated in another huge buck up in a siege at Ruby Ridge in Northern Idaho. I would-
it's hard to say is that Ruby Ridge was a genuinely gigantic fucko anymore, so than Waco. Ruby Ridge was like they prefer
almost on a criminal level. The fact that, like that we'll go through it right now get into it yeah see. Ruby Ridge was a standoff between the US government and a white supremacist named Randy Weaver, who was holed up in the cabin with his wife, two kids and a friend of theirs long story short by the.
It Randy's, wife and son were dead. An ATF agent was dead and Randy and his friend were wounded. What what this,
sorry was with that with Ruby Ridge. Is this guy Randy Weaver had pretty
been entrapped into song off some Gerald's barrels off guns and
he had a warning, the? U S, government, by the? U S government yeah, and if this is this is very standard FBI, a tf procedure, you just get one, you tell them they're in a very difficult predicament and your flip him to get
All of the leaders, Randy Weaver was not a leader in
it's premises, movement! That's why they were using him to get to the big fish. He refused
to go along with the ATF and what the federal government wanted to do, so they just hold up
in their home and it just escalated, and every mistake that could be made was made. And then you have the situation where the death of his son,
the death of his wife, the at FBI,
yeah realize they shot his wife yeah and they consistently used him. They would
tell him to just let your wife free and then we can negotiate and he thought that they were taunting jack. He said in his in that house, with his dead wife for a week,
for now, yeah
so Mcveigh. He used
two incidents to justify his actions. Yeah,
here's Mcveigh, saying that himself
who started the war? Who is the aggressor? That's how we look at the Murrah bombing. Maybe it wasn't a startable war. It was a counterattack. The war had already been started. You guys make it can be ruthless
let's see how you like it when it's, when fighting, but to you
oh my god, I say I say that would be the appropriate response, but this really
Rich was really able fight as well by this character, Bo Gritz, who, which grew up a big leader in the White Supremacist Movement, also at the time running for president, so he
Put this as a diplomatic opportunity to show what a great diplomatically
It would be to broker attempted deal between the family between the family and the FBI, and he did. But if you watch the document, this documentary great american experience documentary about Ruby Ridge
review bo Gritz in man. He is so happy to have been a part of someone that you have out of sight into opportunity. It just has to be a part of it. You know you like it's like when I was first now that I'm on
set of crash in HBO's crashing, it's a wonderful opportunity. The
Jules story is that Timothy Mcveigh was a lone Wolf
by a man named Terry Nichols who said that he went along with it only because Mcveigh had threatened both Nichols life and the life of his family, but to me that doesn't make any sense right. If you look at the history
mass murder in America. Lone wolves are sick people, the guys like Charles Whitman, a U t who had a brain, tumor or so
and show at Virginia Tech who had more mental problems. Then we have time to go into here in a very strange Youtube account, my goodness yeah I mean Timothy.
Today is not writing. Richard Mcbeef showed up so honestly, though, if he could have just managed to channel his anger into song, the songs would have been
horrible thing would have been songs that Timothy Mcveigh was not sick, sure he no doubt suffered from
Yes from his time in the Gulf WAR which we will get into, but Mcveigh was not sick. The
sung. Cho is sick. Mcveigh was radicalized; absolutely he was a part of a gigantic network. I think he was completely supported. I'm with you blog me on that whole front. I've been here
given a copy of a book, called the Turner diaries that we're gonna go deep into more deeper detail next episode, but that book is going to be sort of like the invitation to the arian nation that is going to move people deserve. This is american. Isis is essentially and it like people like Louis Beam who commit it came out and said this idea of leaderless revolution of little pods of people doing gigantic horrible violent acts. The hope would just happen without a central network would use terrorism, they don't
It is a mess and terrorism salute a I mean to me than the bay is the he is. The definition of domestic terrorism is the poster. The poster,
domestic terrorism. He is the Garth Brooks of domestic Terrorist spring Garth Brooks into this. Every time you bring up, Garth Brooks I'm forced to get defensive because the thunder does roll, and we had to remember that the thunder rolls it is not just a window for it to stop. You know who was the face of domestic terrorism before this, which is sad that he got bumped the kid from problem child. If you real
Take those movies like a serious crime drama. He was horrible, Dennis the menace yeah american
now in this series,
We aim to show just how Timothy Mcveigh got to this point, how he was in.
By a white, separatist quote, unquote. Patriot movement then still thrives and easy defended to this day and how a rash
conspiracy, beliefs, justified Mcveigh's actions to himself
The show how it is very possible, if not probable, that there were many more people involved than just Mcveigh and Nichols and how the entire thing just
nine eleven six eleven six years later could have been prevented, if not for the incompetence and of a of a few law enforcement officials who weren't listening to what their people were telling they and they think that actively
fighting one another. They were in competition with one another, not fighting for the greater good of the american people, which is what they should be doing. Yes, I think the term shortsightedness is the most important thing like. Yes, they did fuck some things up, but mostly was about. They just wanted to have the
I'm be closed to one of the case closed. They wanted Timothy Mcveigh in jail and that's it because the complicated weaving,
getting into. How do you shut down Elohim City? How do you shut down like this?
they all. These gigantic networks is white, supremacy numbers that were sort of hidden. The white supremacy part of it just hid the Patriot movement,
It was it's weird how they used all that hate rhetoric to just be like. Oh, it's just a bunch of idiots in the mountains talking about how
eight, the races, but actually they were preparing
Neil against the US government and again Ruby Ridge and Waco. It happened previously. The F B. I was kinda look in there with they didn't they didn't want another situation like that or the a tf, the a tf specifically absolutely not, and the a tf not wanting another situation like that is partly what led to Oklahoma City, but again JANET Reno played by Will Ferrell on Saturday Night LIVE was funny that was funny, but before we get
to the life and times of Timothy Mcveigh and the movement that, at the very least, inspired him we're going to cover the actual bombing itself.
As we know, a lot of our listeners are either.
Too young to remember or may not have even been born before April 19th, one thousand nine hundred and ninety five- how to make
so sad, but we just had we just had Joey Fatone onset, for your pretty face is going to Hell, is a bit of a spoiler alert, calm down. Ladies, I know he brought up that it's the 20th anniversary of the Insync coming together next year, and I was like that's horrible. It's ridiculous
sync, can vote for one year away from drinking things been able to
for two years old right there that's crazy, but before we get into it, we have to say
our main sources here. The first is American Terrace by Lou Michel and down her back it's the book that was essentially endorsed by Mcveigh. It's where he told his life story, although it still doesn't paint a flattering portrait,
Mcveigh aids that make this guy was the only guy that Mcveigh actually talk to well. This is yeah. It's also there's no way
going to be flattering portrait unless it's a pamphlet at a gun show there's no way you can sugarcoat the story. Enough really can't say all the details but like, but also he could have been in
edible dancer. He had an elegant arch to his feet. I mean, and- and I mean the sparse hair cuts go. He definitely had one
he was, there is definitive. He was very proud of his brush cut. He called his brush cut, and that was one of the things that he hated most about being in prison was
He wasn't able to get a good brush cut anymore. Oh poor dying blade, looking country, inbred, sister fucking piece of ship, but of course he was on death row. So this was this was an opportunity for him to really share his story and get his point of view out there. The other book that we had
and this one is the really interesting one. It only came out a couple years ago after,
a ton of FBI files were finally released. The other book is Oklahoma City, what the investigation messed and why it's still matters by Andrew Gumbel and Roger Charles, and this one refutes Mcveigh's story in a number of ways and also gives a fantastic overview of everything that went wrong here. Okay,
The one thing I will say definitely in defense of this book. It has eighty pages of source material of of of citing, where it gets all of its different points. It's very, very thorough. It's a really cool break out. It's a little mind numbing, because it's a lot of details, but it paints a picture of why it was so difficult to investigate this in the incident and of the evidence that points towards there was a whole network that was working with Timothy Mcveigh and also to prove that this book is,
valid and reasonable. In those eighty pages of source material, not one of the sources is in force. That's really that's not good at it guys a plea we gotta give our support to.
The boy Alex Jones tonight is big night. He told me, stop you tonight, we're not talking about the Alex Jones Megyn Kelly Interview, Alex Jones is a big speaking of Alex Jones Oklahoma City is one of Alex. Jones is big inside job claims, and he says that the entire,
it was done to malign the quote. Unquote. Patriot movement: the Patriot Movement is a white supremacist movement and each night for him tonight. I hope you shine to hope you wins best cinematography. I don't know what he's gonna do tonight or whatever it is going to go back now, live on him yeah, but yeah that this is
you know the start of to me. They are by Alex Jones really starting to get into like inside job. Okay, like kid that Oklahoma City was one of his first big yeah conspiracy and that's and that's what we're gonna get into here. There were so many different holes in the official narrative. It was able to be filled by conspiracy. Theorists to them proved what
point they want to prove whatever narrative they wanted to create. They were able to create absolutely and the reason why those holes existed was a because of incompetence,
through through that's how it always goes with. These is that the the holes are all
is caused by incompetence that the government does not want exposed. It's not that they're trying to not expose evil.
They've done. Sometimes they are, but most the time they're just trying to
cover up how badly they fuckedup. That is, the grad investigations leave these incidents sort of like they become like a Sasha Grey.
So many holes filled with conspiracy theories, and I I think of the image and it's available for and it's low and it's hungry for it and it and it's forty four it okay. Well, we do
we did manage to get there period it now, let's get to the bombing
self now that we've got Sasha Grey out of the way. Thank God. Thank you. It's been about burning in my pocket for awhile, that's good! I'm happy! It's been released. The genie is out of the bottle. Now the site of the bombing was
Alfred P Mira, federal building in downtown Oklahoma City. Well, there were offices for the ATF Secret Service and DEA in the bill.
It was mostly run of the mill government offices with stuff like so secure
The housing and urban Development Veterans Affairs Army recruiting and just like,
out of the buildings like this, it was a daycare there as well. Five hundred and fifty people worked at the mirror building, but that doesn't account for the hundreds who came in and out every day to use basic governmental services, many of whom were there on the morning of April 19th. This was nine hundred. Am this place had just opened up? Some Mcveigh was faced with a choice. He could very well have set a bomb to explode in the middle of the night when fatalities would be kept to a minimum, but Mcveigh didn't want to just destroy a building. He thought that the only
to catch the government's attention would be to rack up a high body count terrorism and, as far as the loss of innocent life went Mcveigh rationalized it by comparing the people inside to employees on the death
star woo we've got a nerd alert. We've got a nerd alert. We've got a nerd alert woo on another way for George Lucas to get his merchandise that's right into american events, so this is out of Timothy Mcveigh's. This is his actual analogy. This is, he equated them to individuals who worked on the death star from horse his mouth.
Directly from Mcveigh's mouth in his rationalization. While not
every person on the death star was individually guilty of crimes against the galaxy. They were still
serving on behalf of Emperor Palpatine in this case, represented by Bill Clinton. It's now
We actually really resent, because Emperor Palpatine definitely could not still get an erection, oh absolutely, but he definitely good to his own detriment, see Mcveigh's out of himself
Luke Skywalker, oh my
God I can't. Even with this zhirkov I'm, you know, I am like a little Luke Skywalker, if you think about it. Well, that's just like Luke Skywalker is Luke. Skywalker also wanted to fuck his sister in bread,
fishing for carp in helping Me- and you were kind of talking about stuff like this on the last episode of top hat yeah, where a lot of these people they want their lives to be movie totally. They want their lives to be simple movies with bad guys. They want to be the hero and they
to all be wrapped up in a nice little package, we have a hundred and sixty eight innocent dead people because of this morons x, trying to live the extension of a film that he loves and also to make the Mcveigh was using set up rhetoric.
He is parroting things that he is heard. He is said and thought about the statements he was going to make. All of this is rehearsed. I am
mentioned that they used pop culture in a lot of their recruiting material. Yeah, there's a lot of that where it's like it's, because it makes it a very simple attention grabbing like description of your action and so easily
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The game now by blowing up the death star, in this case
represented by the Mirror building yeah. Can you mention the daycare
death. Star yeah would be seen as a hero striking back against an evil empire it just. It goes back to John Wilkes Booth.
I thought the same thing. They all think they're going to be heroes. It never happens that way, never never told die in fire. The old get murdered your fucking moron. You never worked different in reality. Eighty percent,
the people who died in the blast had no connection whatsoever to law enforcement. They were just regular people going to work in a government job to make ends me.
You're just trying to get to the weekend then go fishing and like try to forget that they work at the Murrah building yeah. The exact number is
one hundred and thirty, eight out of one hundred and sixty eight had nothing to do with any one of those apartments and it's
just just talk about the ATF to this before this is nine hundred. Am this is before the big guys even get in here literally
low level, a tf employees, it's it's up, so just
before nine hundred am Timothy Mcveigh according to him, pulled the yellow.
Ryder truck on the side of the road and let the first views soon after he let the second. While waiting at a stoplight, he then pulled the Ryder truck into a drop
point cut into the sidewalk on the north side of them? You're building got out put in a pair of ear plugs and walked towards his get away. Car now, apparently, one thing that may have happened is that that was his second plan. That was a back up plan
the first plane and that he was supposed to go into the underground garage underneath the building. But the idiot didn't realize how big the Ryder truck was and spent fifteen minutes back in in and out of the
front of the park, my truck when they say because they were there was I witnesses that say that he was. You see him around driving the Ryder truck, because basically, he scrambling to come up with the next plan, which is like you figure that be the first thing you been casing the building for months right, anything think about the stupid truck right, and so now he so he lit the wick, and I mean this does take a lot of pain.
Since in a lot of calm, I mean obviously, was calm to be able to drive around with a loaded bomb. That was let whose except
yeah. He was extremely calm, the entire time, it's crazy,
that's why you were saying earlier: that's why he's not he's not nuts he's never focused
he is extremities. Greenlee yeah he's not
table in any way whatsoever,
this man knew exactly what he was doing at every turn and felt good about what he was doing at every turn, and we base
away car was a pastel one thousand nine hundred and seventy seven mercury Marquis the Mcveigh had park. Just a few blocks away.
The note on the window that read not abandoned. Please do not to will move by April. 23Rd needs battery and cables, and that just shows the comp
of white people that you could just put a note in there really gold l understand that everybody understands no sets that's as good as honor. That's an honor code. That is the definition of a dumpy car that whenever you're leaving your body not abandoned by the way I'm just going to shop at Costco, I will be back in twenty minutes. This car is a functioning car. I am just a dirt bag yeah. He spent three hundred dollars on that mercury. Marquis pastel, yellow had a big rust spot on it he's just a kind of
Michael bag. That car dealer needed to see. That day, like
he's going to leave me if I don't sell one car and all I got is this pastel piece of crap? Oh hello, Timothy disguise haircut, I'm moving this car tonight, but before Mcveigh could even get to his car. The bomb detonated at nine hundred and two am with the power of two
have tons of TNT. This is a recording of the blast, as captured by an audio recording
a routine local government meeting being held in another building,
eating. Basically, there are four elements that I have to laugh receive information regarding it's so interesting. It is that just such a that is such a great all,
description of just is just a Monday.
Yeah. It seems like a very boring meeting that was going on. It was a water board meeting. Oh well, that's kind of excited, but you know I mean just this. This four hundred and nineteen one thousand nine hundred and ninety five was just
yeah and yeah this to happen. I mean that is again as we were talking about that this is the definition of terrorism. In that blast you know I I mean it blew out the blue.
It's not enough to blow out the recording on this. We had that was loud enough. It was heard over fifty miles away. It's a huge bomb. Is a twenty foot, long bomb filled
it's a bit. But how many tons is that five thousand tons? It was three one slash two tons: Jesus Christ, alright yeah
exposure was powerful enough so as to cause tiles to fall from ceilings in buildings. As far as three miles away- oh, my God, the concussive blast shattered windows in buildings all over downtown Oklahoma City, which shredded people on the street. The majority of people that much
The people who were injured in this were injured by falling glass. Okay, all of these
does. Just went yeah that would make sense virtually every
Building in downtown Oklahoma City. Over three hundred of them were damaged in someway by the blast, some bad enough where they had to be demolished completely well and when the truck exploded, the force of the blast blew. The two hundred
Fifty pound rear axle two blocks away where it hit a car, and almost
kill the family inside who
The dentally shared the last
Nichols with Mcveigh's known co, conspirator, no also the family, the
I was, I would testimony said basically was like an action movie heard the blast he's like
family doesn't know he looks up and he said he saw this axle just going making
noise like a movie and it just crack
Ms Carney was the the the good the only to his family was is awesome it ever even you move very fast, yeah yeah. That is what a crazy situation. When the smoke
cleared a third of the nine story. Near building was rubble as a concussive effects of the bomb had week
concrete columns enough to cause the building to partly collapse.
Is really interesting that I learned about bombs, but he was reading Oklahoma City that I that I never knew was that it's not so much
I mean the initial blast makes a bunch of damage, but then it creates a vacuum. It's like negative pressure affect red Sox sucks back in all the error comes in to fill the space that the concussive energy like push,
and that's would bring all the calling and that's what they're saying that. That's where to me
Bay was accidentally a genius because he did obviously did not understand the physics of what he was doing and that he somehow
his way into making a date into being extra powerful, because it's like two blasts and one, which is also why the conspiracy theories,
to say that there were two bombs. Alright, when they're absolutely was not now the heat from the blast
cars in the parking lot across the street on fire and the ground was littered with bodies and body parts, but the worst part was the children just above the Ryder truck on the second floor of the building was the America's KIDS daycare center. The kids inside were infants, toddlers and preschoolers. Twenty one kids were in the daycare that day only six survived, and nineteen kids throughout the
Nothing would die in the blast. Mcveigh would later say that he regretted the children sure but never expressed any remorse whatsoever in his words the chilled.
As well as the non governmental workers, sixty nine people who are just there to get their social security check or some other bullshit that day were nothing more
then collateral damage. He is ridiculous. That's the words that he
so he's doing a lot of that from his time in the Gulf WAR and had this kind of whole concept of like that's, that was that that was the part of it that was going to incite the race war. That was what was going to. Finally do that's what he wanted. He wanted that, so he never even heard
doesn't really ever even single terms that he regretted it. He didn't, he didn't get it it's a little can't
for sure, but we talked about this on top as well with regarding Dylan Roof, we gotta ban people with bad
cut. We believe every barber and every time a bit, but someone comes in, is like what what it, what he called his hair cut the brush to brush tell my old
now you're on a let down problem cut your head off the snake, as I say, cut the hair off the snake arrest,
that were on the scene immediately and headed straight into the wreckage. They said, both the ceilings and the floors were marked by large circles of coagulated blood, each circled, marking a human being that have been crushed by the falling concrete slabs. No one deserves to die. That way. That's that's for sure. One woman who fell five stories
survived, but was trapped and kept her composure by squeezing the severed hands of one of the other victims saying it made her feel. Oddly comforted while waiting to be set,
It was the only thing she had an interesting idea now. If last podcast on the left fan, she would have called it an and
stress ball. I mean it's. It's a bit of dark humor
That is the me that how interesting what a strange situation I've been in the middle, it's been about been a midnight chuckles. They call yeah when I travel, but what I mean. How would just what a strange situation to have to be an end for her at that per her to have to experience that is really yeah and she said she knew
that that she had reached out. She was trapped under rubble. She reached out and found someone else's hand and and started Screenrant and started squeezing it and and looked over that you know and saw that the hand was attached to nothing else, and she said that you
particularly care at the time she said she just she needed something right to hold onto, because that was another thing that uh some of the survivors inside said. They said,
while they were waiting to be rescued. This it wasn't like an action movie where you've got like hissing pipes and
rubble falling and people screaming. They said it was deathly silent and they are interested. No one of the most tragic stories was that of Dana Bradley. She accompanied by three members of her family was at the Social Security Office to get her son a social security card that day her brand new baby boy, when the truck bomb exploded, Dana's, mother, daughter and son, were all dead on and her sister was badly burned. Dana herself was trapped under the rubble.
And had to have her leg amputated at the knee with a pocket knife MIKE. He was so up because he literally had to go to the triage center and they grab the only the your doctor. There was that the head of the department that was over up there at night,
clock in the morning.
Very fat man, and they said that he had to struggle is way through the could barely get through the rubble to get during the position. So he was like we had to do with his left hand, which was not his strong hand and all of his scalpels kept breaking because it could be old
Good NEWS, Anastasia on her, because her blood pressure was too low. We was afraid to the end of season, would killer to use a tranquilizer he's being like you're. Just gonna have to deal with this and we're just going to go, but I have to keep you still for me to do this, and so it was just him
every break, but she was completely motionless screaming and he
scalpel each one kept breaking until. Finally, he got someone
pocket knife and managed to finally get the last ten dim 'cause. He had to come through the worst part of her knee like the most complicated part, and that is that's fucking horrible, not a not
a day for anyone. I mean this was an act that reminds me of a scene of a hospital from the civil war,
yeah I mean it was just. Oh, my goodness limbs everywhere.
Dana along with most of the other trap survivors, were down in the basement, which rescuers dubbed the pit because burst pipes were slowly filling it with freezing cold water, which made the rescue process. All the more
it's never good when, where you are, has been dubbed the pet teri. Rarely is that like that, so that means we're having a better time than other people unless you're at the peak.
Improv Theater on twenty ninth street in New York City when you can get cheap, improv classes and even cheaper comedy shows that's right and it was incredibly dangerous to be in there as well. Well, one thing also interesting that when the for in the first wave of go looking for survivors is that there was all this money everywhere, because the ATF offices, they
evidence. Room blew up so money and guns are everywhere. In this contest. Confused officers are run around like trying to see people, but also just picking up just handfuls of of cash.
And eventually, like the commanders of the the money we're getting these people, it was very complicated,
There is just a surreal scene, yeah absolutely now, after the two week rescue at
over only a handful of people have been saved from the rubble and predictably, just like with the construction of the World Trade center. Most of these deaths could have been prevented for just a few dollars more all right. The columns of the Alfred P near a building for re
force with rebar had the building used hoop steel. Instead, a change that would have accounted for one slash, eight of one percent of the construction budget. The building would not have collapsed, which is how the majority of the lives were lost.
Government spent just eighteen thousand dollars more on this contract. No more than twenty people would have died as opposed to a hundred and sixty eight. If the government- you know it's a it, they probably do this under the guise of cutting the budget.
An exactly what they did, because the whole point is that the reason why they wanted to whoop steel, because that was earthquake proofing, the buildings and they're like oh there's, hardly any earth earthquake,
and also they want to make it some big, oppressive government building, because you had the there and you had the Social Security office. So they wanted to be this kind of friendly place
reason. Why? Now all buildings like, if you try to go into the new,
go in there. You are frist, I'm treated like
criminals you go in there, because that that's. This is why now because the the now every government building has to be completely been made to this specific code and also the idea that you could even get a band that close to the building is really insane yeah, it's absolute
in saying that he was allowed to park right up in front of it, not just
right up in front of it, but right below the daycare center, because the daycare center was directly above where Timothy Mcveigh Park, the Ryder truck and in fact, when he got out of the truck he would have been able to
look up and see kids drawings in the window of that
You think that he knew it was a daycare. She absolutely definitely case the building before they said that he came in weeks before we
to the next episode, but he came in asking about the back entrances to the daycare and
very interested and how many people were there and also
a controversial change of management of the daycare that caused a lot of people? Do not bring in their
that day, which is very interesting to that. A lot more kids could have died, but the the woman that everybody Club had just
left and they had a new boss. There, like a new runner of the day care, and they didn't trust that person. So they didn't a lot of key people to bring their cats yeah. It was just a stroke of luck that that that worked out that way:
and furthermore the Mura building only had one guard on duty at any one time and the building was actually left totally Ungar
for five hours a day how well there was no possibility that Mcveigh New of the structural weaknesses,
He sure, as Hell, knew about the holes in security and shows Oklahoma City over buildings and Omaha and Dallas, partly because of that, because the black people
in Omaha Dallas, they didn't you weren't able to drive a truck.
Right up to the front entrance of it say the
The way that it would be acceptable for the Murrah building to have one security guard is if that security guard was the dad from family matters, because you know he would have done a great job protecting that building over there I mean just taking issue and while most
around the world were flabbergasted that this happened in Oklahoma City of all places. Local law enforcement officials knew that something like this could happen and to their credit, tried to prevent it. The local head, the federal protective services whose whole job is to protect places like the mirror building.
Put together a detailed report outlining each and every one of them your buildings vulnerabilities, but his bosses wanted to keep the keep the building, as quote
place where people wanted to do business right. They said that terrorism is something that just didn't happen in America and ordered the agent to change
his report and that will apparently also did not build up goodwill amongst his bosses. 'cause he'd been harping on this for a long time and they all just thought he was really fucking annoying and he didn't like so then at some point. He finally just wrote him off, but I do wonder
And if you are, you know a person in a pre, Oklahoma, city, bombing world or pre nine eleven world. You know you do want people to feel comfortable and it was an immense. What happened after Columbine when it comes to when it came to sort of Harding High School's, not making them hard targets for
to attack. I I mean I understand the perspective of the people who are running this building, to make it a family, friendly environment that wasn't militant
absolutely well. There is no there's a middle ground, though yeah there there's
there's absolutely a middle ground between like frisking people as they go inside, to get a drivers license and
leaving an entire front entrance completely open and the security cameras were fake. They weren't connected to anything. So there was no. There was no footage of the actual bombing I will say at,
one. Dwight Schrute a year saves fifty
I mean that was in the top. Nfl complains about how the fuqing, how the line at the chipotle is too long. That's it. He will maybe save you
remind me of Wayne's world. Where he's at the video shoes like there is no film in this camera, but then, of course, there is
yeah that also plays into the conspiracy there? Is they were the conspiracy theorists were just allowed to fill. So many pockets of information that weren't filled by reports and cameras yeah so
stop saying holes holes
and this is another thing that the plan of the conspiracy theorists the conspiracy, theorists ideas
you know something was being covered up here, because this agent, who put out this
the mirror, building was vulnerable to an attack. He did change his report, his official
He changed it and when the bombing happened, his bosses made
I'm sure he wasn't anywhere near Oklahoma City, because she had to talk to the press. He might have said something like yeah I to
and this was unsafe. I told that something like this could happen, but they ended up shifting him from building to or from agency to agency to agency, and they did that with a lot of people
around Oklahoma City people were being shifted all around to cover up incompetence. Well, that's the interesting thing I will get
this a little bit more in the future when it comes to in the future episodes. But when it comes to conspiracy theories, often times, I think the government is like. You know, total competence competence enough to actually perpetrate an act like this in reality. Like you just said, it's the incompetence of the government that allows these things to happen
I could work at the ATF. You don't mean to bother you, but you have to deal with applied for a job at the government I'll be there are men like me out there that are working for the government that don't know what they're doing
which is not shocking anybody yeah. You should be actors, the should be performers, they shouldn't be edited cubicle. Well, that's the thing about the
states government is that it is full of absolutely com,
tent and not just comic heroes, people who deserved
in those positions of power that are there to help people there, because they don't want people to die
Government is also it's a human institution, so it's going to be filled with a lot of people who are neglectful fuckups up that don't necessarily give a fuck.
Right. But you know what size their own, as so, let's get more people in this
There are people in this story that did really good jobs. They just kind of got silenced after the fact, because they were people like deep within the we're going to get into the white supremacist move
the people that knew that this ship was coming and we're saying like hey they're preparing for something there's a lot of buzz at the same thing before nine hundred and eleven. So, like there's a lot of reports coming out saying like there's a lot of bustle
happen, and I don't know what's going on and it's just what
and they choose to act on right, alright, so Timothy Mcveigh, where are we at now right now he's in his pastel car yeah? Absolutely so when the hunt for suspects began
America looked first to the Middle EAST, which was actually pretty logical at the time, because Ramzi Yousef, the mastermind of the first World Trade center bombing, but it just happened a year before Oklahoma City,
we have been apprehended, and the jihadist groups, of course, had promised swift, retaliation right and really it was the only explanation that we had that made any sense to us, because she it like this didn't happen in am
and if it did, it was always someone from somewhere else. Who was the perpetrator? I remember in
remember when this happened 'cause, I grew up pretty close to Oklahoma City.
And I remember you might come in and you know to bad to my parents. They were like watching it on the tv that day and were absolutely shocked or anything like
could happen yeah. I remember when he was when Timothy Mcveigh was captured. It was a look of like pain on their face. Like oh yeah
You look like somebody everyone had at someone who looked like Timothy Mcveigh in their hometown. Yeah, you know, feel good yeah, like a dip.
Yeah. That's basically it the kind of guy that you talk bad about behind his back, but in front of his face your visibly terrified, damn. Well, that would take him. He didn't know we're not having a barbeque this Sunday. So what I know you heard about it, we don't want to hear about the coming revolution, also I'll bring coleslaw but the Patriot movement. It's like the multiplicity.
Clone of the Nazi movement literally. Instead, it's a bunch of idiots that gorbals woulda spit on it meant, but during the investigation
It wasn't long before someone remembered the date April, 19th two years to the day after the siege at Waco had come to a deadly and fiery in that was Bob
the head of the FBI in Oklahoma, who technically should have been in charge of the investigation, but we're going to find out. There's a lot of corruption with who was in being put in charge, but he
stood as soon as he saw a popped. He was like they were sitting in the office and he was like this is the second universe,
Waco and they're like oh,
push it like because he knew this was coming, and then we're going to talk about the new that there are a bunch of people Pist off about Ruby Ridge
and then we got so much attention being like, of course, it's going to be it's four hundred and twenty is now is what we talked about with Columbine, and we did that whole episode that we'd holiday, legalize weed man, if you guys just had smoking weed man, I don't think Timothy Mcveigh would have done it wouldn't be bad on weed. He actually tried weed and meth for a brief period of waiting for him,
a lot of the things that was one of the things if the fuel up to the building of the bombs at him- and he was contrite, didn't make, they was trying to get Nichols and the math Mcveigh had been up for days leading up to your
Probably is why he up with the license plate which will get into into it, so the FBI they drew
a little profile, the Behavioral Sciences unit drew something up. They said the perpetrator will be a
Male with military experience was angry about Ruby Ridge and Waco described him perfectly from then on the
because, with the F b I referred to as a quote: Bubba Job interest which is used to
the the term for when you blow yourself with a dead fish on a boat with your buddy watch it he thought you come yet that's above a java. Listen that wild so moments after the bomb went off Mcveigh hopped into his mercury Marquis, but he couldn't get.
Car to start because he bought a three hundred dollar car right. He tried again and again to get the engine to turn over until finally, it started and he sped away right, but Mcveigh had either forgotten, or it purposely left something important off his car Big Bay, who would just murdered a hung
Sixty eight people was driving down the road without any license plates on his car. It is ridiculous. It reminds me of that TED Bundy.
Well, where, like I talk about all the time after the 20th kill, you forget where you put your wrench or something like that yeah. But it's just so strange to me that he would make this mistake on accident. It seems like
the decision to get caught because he wanted to be a martyr right. Its policy,
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Name Charles Hanger notice, this about sixty miles north of Oklahoma City and pulled Mcveigh over and when make got out of the car. The officer noticed a bulge in Mcveigh's Jack,
when the officer reached inside he found a handgun and Timothy Mcveigh was arrested for the first time in his life for the unlawful, carrying of a fire
but the funny thing was hangar had no idea who he had handcuffed in the back of his cop car, but there was a clue
they was arrested. He was wearing his favorite t shirt that he wore special for that day on the front was a picture
Abraham Lincoln, with the words six Semper tear, thus ever to tyrants,
and underneath these were the words that John Wilkes Booth had
after shooting Lincoln in the head six semper,
It also runs, but I would say six separate rahnama system, also made famous by the Sondheim musical assassins that John Wilkes Booth has a wonderful solo in an I I love it. I sing it alone all the time my brother was in the play assassin's in college. I got to see it. Yes, he was very very tall tall person who play on the back of the shirt was a picture of a tree featuring a quote from Thomas Jefferson. That said, the tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time, with the blood of
tree at seventy runs, but not mine, certainly not mine, yeah. I own my girlfriend. You know just the world, the world's worst farmer, but he's putting on the crops their human blood
the blood of patriots and tyrants. She was killed all the trees, but maybe I got this wrong now. I checked online and you can
still get your very own. Sic semper, tyrannous shirt, but now, instead
just a boring old tree. You can get one with
sexy lady on it. Instead, oh wow, oh yeah just go to Gadsden Culpepper's American Heritage shop. The official don't tread on me, outfitters sexy lady, just like Abraham Lincoln loved. He loves sexy. Ladies I'm going to go home and have sex with the first lady. I can't wait to go shopping there, because the sound hood I'm wearing currently is very warm and I think that they probably have a whole
action, very breezy hoods for me to wear with face holes, cut out perfectly for hiding sound huh. You can also buy a deck, a car with the girls in swimsuits holding guns. You know it's called what guns and bonds guns and finds that, while every
hum I play poker. I also want to be reminded that I'm lonely and I only like hot babes on my playing cards. I love being vaguely hard while I'm playing cards being my buddies. Sometimes my father is there. I loved the sexual fetish. Fetish of guns is so weird to me, but that's all other horses, their penises with bullets, and you could make your semen hard. That would be so much fun going to Ding Dong, Ding, Ding Dong,
different services in your house like Little BB gun. I think it's best that doesn't happen, so it wouldn't take authorities long to catch up to Timothy Mcveigh
First break came in the rear. Axle of the Ryder truck was found. Two blocks away. The same one
almost took the heads up, the family, huddled in their car for safety. The axle had a vin number stamped on it, which was traced to a place called Elliott's body,
shop in Junction City Kansas when they check the paperwork. They found that the truck
and rented to a man named Robert Kling, wanted Mcveigh's. Alias is ok, but when the body shop
employees were interviewed. They found that they ve Maine
had been alone, would he rented it. This claim has become one of the most contentious points in the whole Oklahoma City saga sketches were done a both men with the first one
How did Lee being a Mcveigh Square headed Possum, sour puss? You really is such a sour puss yeah. That's got no. He does not smile he's Abou typeface, little fucking prick
we know for a fact, would be just like that couple who were laughing at like
furiously laughing and I looked over on this is on the airplane and they were watching Frasier. I have a feeling Timothy Mcveigh would like I don't like comedy but Frazier. He gets me every time, but the other sketch was up a heavyset man in a carolina. Panthers cap with all of skin that man to this
Eight is still known as John DOE number two okay, who will get into on the next episode either way the sketches were taken from door to door in Junction City and tell
only a woman who worked at a local motel called dreamland recognized sketch number one. What do you look like you want to say
dream dream live. No, it's just like we got rooms. You can
and by the hour you can rent them by the half hour,
with Green Leslie. It's obviously not a place like they must have been stunned. He's like I'll spend the night
The night sir we've never had someone spend the night here at dreamland. We're just checking. Are you
just have nothing to lose and when they checked the register of they found the name. Timothy Mcveigh, they also found
a fucking idiot while he used his real name he's just such a he's. Just the idea that he could do anything alone will talk about this, but it's just he's so fucking
we're headed and stupid, and I literally think you ran out of creative juices well with an alias. I already did Robert Kling Timothy Mcveigh, that's my name Richard Drunken Richard Drink without Timothy Mcveigh. On my name, I never understood
I have a hard time coming up with fake names. I could go pick names all day. Long got him in person, Jim Sanders and Humor
John Rhe Anderson, John Anderson. You just keep coming up with names, Rob Rob Rob
order. Bimbo markets part is a rather big balls. My name is a ratio Fernandez, hello, my name is Rachel, but I made it immediately. I jumped a character, but that's okay as a character comedian. Yes, that's true yeah. I think I don't. I don't think that Timothy Mcveigh had the imp
of or the sketch abilities now, so he would have really not done well it just for laughs in Montreal. No definitely not. They also found that Mcveigh had
did his address as a farm in Michigan which belong to the brother of Terry Nichols? Mcveigh's
the old lone conspirator in the official version of the events, while agents went to check out the farm, a computer check was run on the name, Timothy Mcveigh
in his recent arrest in Oklahoma, less than an hour and a half after the bombing, the previous Wednesday showed up lucky for them. The judge, who is meant to see Mcveigh that Thursday had a full schedule, and so Mcveigh's bail hearing was pushed to Friday. Had that not happened, Mcveigh would have been set free and who knows how long it would have taken to find him or what Mcveigh
I have done in the meantime. Well, it would have been another Ruby red situation. You know it would've been a Waco ask Dand off that would have led to a horrible, horrific events with. God knows, like you, just said how many other people with a dot unless he had a place to go any
was set up and he was supposed to go and meet up with a network of people that were supposed to hide him, which is a theory that that they've done that before they took criminals they were the whole criminal under.
Now that we're going to get into in the next episode will get into it, but thankfully Mcveigh was arrested again and charged with the bombing. So now we've got some questions to answer number one who was Timothy
Mcveigh Afaq face who she goes to the quick answer and dresser bed speaker than lovers, may be a good friend
I don't think he was a good friend of the was very pushy mean friend. He was a very
lover. He did not do well with the ladies at all the the best
every day I would have guessed. I know this is stunning revelations from last podcast on the left. Timothy Mcveigh did Timothy Mcveigh bad in bed. Do you think that he may be was bad at Comma Lingus? I think it was bad about everything the best he ever did was after the Gulf
or right after he got back, he
Try to line on a girl walked up to a girl, a bar say: hey, do you need
Do you need a special license to wear that outfit? I'm going to talk to another man, not you, you freak! Why are you here?
kill all the women. They don't get. My charm
charming man in the world in him and Elliot Rodgers start hanging exactly two. How did he get to this point? He's an idiot GO
he had no skills. He was
right by the war, will get to the short answers again like no, I'm not employed Henrys, quick, how hot takes on it and three,
Who else was involved? Yes,
I tell you what I certainly hope: it's not big bird from Sesame Street, because that was the last honest thing that was like the last good thing, Mr Kim and Mister Rogers. If Miss
Roger shows up somewhere in this investigation would be very upset. Absolutely no. Those are those are great questions. We're going to answer those in the next episode, because I mean that's how we find that's how we avoid these future acts going forward
here we have to find the root problem and that's what we talk about on top as well in this last episode these and it's so it's so a contentious right now
and it is social media driven and it's it's interesting to see these people or we just continue doing what we've always done and what we will continue to do, which is ignore the problem, let it grow like a cancer in our bellies until just resent our country, which I think at this point. It's like. I mean it's going to happen. So, let's just have fun with
Well, let's not, let's try to avoid at all costs. We get all of try to avoid this. Well, we can see a and with with Oklahoma City and the kind of gun show culture that was going on in in the nineties and in the eighties, with game of these guys, you can see
You can trace a line from what's going
now with both sides way back to
and I was like you know when people say like how did the country get so divide?
all of a sudden all of a sudden yeah. All of a sudden. Are you kidding me this? This is that is been bubbling for decades.
And ten. I think a is right in the middle of all of it and I think one thing that could save us honestly is that a quote unquote right now. If it's true, the Patriot movement technically has their president
they have it. Now you got a couple of real white supremacist that are in the White House that are up. There are part of making policy and so they're watching them fuck it up and it's kind of fun cuz. I think it's going to take
the steam out of their fucking ship a little bit, why realizing now you guys got the job and you're not doing it right? They love what they're doing so. That's that's kind of a sad truth. Yeah yeah there are different
did center. There are more than one yeah there.
They are actually in there actually extremely happy with what's going on right now right they have, they have never been happier in their entire load, my goodness, I'm alright! Well, that's episode.
In Oklahoma City. We got a lot more to get to a lot to cover with the story. It's an intense one ad, I think more relevant than ever really with our current time. So let's take a look at these domestic terrorists and we had a nip in the bud before we have
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