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Episode 307: Casey Anthony Part II - The Dancing Belvins

2018-03-09 | 🔗

On the conclusion to our series on Casey Anthony, we cover the trial itself, from the wild accusations of abuse to the complete bungling of the case on the part of the prosecution, plus we do a theory of our own.

ZigZag Kevin MacLeod (incompetech.com)

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Oppressive Gloom Kevin MacLeod (incompetech.com)

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Future Cha Cha Kevin MacLeod (incompetech.com)

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This is an unofficial transcript meant for reference. Accuracy is not guaranteed.
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Evidently was cowboy boots and through a bad member that absolutely rain and in there what six security as yet around her she was very safe. Rival. Setting up a farmer's were added Casey, Anthony part too, will get to the trial by God. It's it's madness is sheer madness man, there's honestly, you ever like it's nice to have like a reason to be mad, there's something that I like and my personal life there's something really fun about. Like pure righteous anger ruin. You know you're right and that the other person's wrong. So you could just fuckin rail on em all day long in your minds, Grognon in real life. You're, like I brought you your jacket, Casey Anthony's face, if you ever just won't get mad watch the trial, footage and Watch Casey Anthony's reactions to everyone speaking to each other and you will fucking throw your computer out
goddamn window in the street. I want to couple a news glimpse a lot of fashion conversations that sometimes she wears a low cat v when she's feel and relax. Our concern, Conservative flop, all sure what do you also warrant Asia breaking news when we last left Casey Anthony the body of her two and a half year old daughter, Cayley had just been found and wooded area less than half a mile from the Orlando home. They shared with Casey's parents, Casey had already been charged with her daughters, murder before the body had been found, and yet it took another three years for the trial began. If so boring to do court cases. Trials are so fucking boring Well, there are important. Yes, I guess he's out with these boring. I watch Chevron hours of trial, but it was she was she detained for those three years or she was just Joe and he was detained. Ok yeah, so there were four charges
the most serious of which being first degree murder sums The prosecution bungled this case from the beginning. It was about trying to pin Casey with a capital murder charge. Should she be found guilty, Casey Anthony was gonna get the Neil. No questions asked is, after a bunch of appeals, the needle to you- and you are- you're gonna need the new is balloon prison in more dangerous to blue. The needle wishing to charge me with a lower case murder. George s work has now I get yeah that happened on. This is part of a right from the
the prosecution gave themselves a case that would have to show jurors without a doubt that the evidence showed the murder was premeditated. That showed that Casey Anthony deserve the death penalty, which is no easy task. Zelie tell what happens when it starts out honestly, I dont know so when they say it very top would. During the like, the preliminary hearings, they say: they're gonna go for the death penalty and that changes the rules for the Jury know: you're, just changes the stakes level. It changes the stakes because you know if someone is charged with say like manslaughter, then they're not gonna get the death penalty, but why someone know they're gonna, look and heavy metal rafting at aired aid Odo date like, but it does it, but it's easier trial. The item on its much easier trial to prove because there's not as much weight. Jury, does not feel like they have someone's life in their hands. You know so somethin with that. Like a first degree, Mercosur, capital murder case in genoa, death penalty state
people are gonna. Take it a lot more seriously right now, of course, a plea deal, was presented. A Casey as an almost always is in a capital. Murder trial, but The possibility of a plea deal was brought up to Casey. She became dreamily indignant in saying she would never, in a million years admit to the murder of her daughter? Why weren t you I'm any sign of play? Deal you be gay about that now cited. I got em played Ale Nera thousand year because I'll never admit to murder, and my daughter without first are much- has been made of the jurors on the Casey Anthony case almost as much as those involved in the OJ trial, the pound, was made up of nine women and eight men ranging an age from thirty two to sixty five enraging from dolt to dollar. Two big demographics. If you can get a tv show the war
thirty. Two to sixty five year, you'd be the most successful chosen. Frazier Nosegays Maisie graces demo concerned about its caput, since the case had been so widely reported for three years, especially in the Orlando area. The state took their jury, pull from Clearwater Flora, because that was the whole two hour drive away thing I'll say about Clearwater Florida. Number one Scientology capital the world. Really we ve known that strange place beach community. A lot of snow birds means a traffic. It's really bad for December two April cause. That's when all the Eddie it's from up north show up and I don't know how to fuckin drive our eye because their roles Progressive Florida. You crews in you from Fuckin Massachusetts, Europe, everybody's asshole, twenty four, seven, because I
therefore effect because that's how I drive a monocular marilla. You know I just checking this off. My head is like, what's another moment we're Henry becomes just father, you refer to countless. No birds. Are you talking about traffic? At Lord thing? Was the even getting the jury pool from Clearwater? Wasn't enough to get an unbiased jury? Pull republic is after three years most people thought Casey Anthony was guilty. She was tried in the media for three entire years before her trial even start and the other, the news he's got to clear water Florida and spread the word about the trial. So, yes, the papers and the Nicholls were everywhere. In Ireland, a newsboy caps were found in the trash cans for many years. That meant that the only people allowed on the jury had to be at least in the undecided category, if not leaning toward not guilty, which means you have to be tough,
the innkeeper. Ain t even show up birthing Billig list every second, you watch everything in the first place be like I'd like to hear what the lawyers say, because I trust Loi. The biggest blob juries selection words like do you know, the thing about anything about any of you. Don't you're on your iron sullenly job interview, words like our your total, more on Lily, empty and shallow inside. You got the job, but I mean it is a good thing. In most cases, to have an unbiased jury come in, I was advised warrior up, but this case with all the media attention. It was some different all together now now, all the people selected were excited to be a part of the trial. One man Jonathan Green was selected spoke to reporter knowing full well, it wasn't allowed, took a contempt of court charge and happily paid forerunner in fifty dollar fine, and when the judge asked him if he was just trying to get out of jury duty, Green responded
yeah that man is a national air. Elevators he's just a rocket guys like you, the donor, from one shitty city to a shitty or city in Orlando and then say that three they have eleven o dell it'll acquainted with a bunch of other jurors, and I don't think, there's gonna, be you guys plant in us with a bunch of tequila given as the hot tub to fuck with nighttime cams kind of yours. I don't know whether this gonna be late. So I'm up and out an answer both decision. He just said no regrets. None at all however Libya scope of how popular this trial was forty million people watched at least a little bit of it, and because of how interested but were in it the news media reported on everything they could get their hands on it was just thinking about
the jury known. I do run on gavel I've only though we gotta find, if you just gotta gavel different out, Sir, your cause chaos. When your tiny hammer, I need you to stop at that, is not an official gavel kid. I objected my allowed two objectives. The sunshine laws we talked about last week. The media get their hands on quite a lot of information, and they reported on every single tiny little bit they got here is an example of some local Orlando NEWS coverage according to a source who is red, dozens of jailhouse notes and letters prosecutor say they believe, were written by Casey Anthony most I'm contain quote ramblings indicative someone with a lot of time on her hands, there's also a great. He'll about food what to order from the commissary and when to eat noticeably missing the sore says as much killing her daughter. She is now charged with killing.
Food. What else is easy to talk about makes my brain boil after while you just like you, fuckin morons, the more more new research like because they had three years of shit, they had a pump out and right and it's just a and incarcerated. So literally after, like she, a lunch at known at four thirty, that's basically about that. The local news. Media really they had on it quite a bit, but the person who hit on the Casey Anthony trial harder than anyone else forementioned friend net. See grace. They call me in fancy. Nancy undertook boat with the poor boy here. How did you described anti grace does if
Doktor Phil himself was in the plot of the movie. You want a man, a cheese, the end of a Chevy Chace Movie, where it has led to the female persona in this is, MRS doubt, fire three outlier three as our new shout, so the judge the case he Anthony trial was the honourable Melvin Perry Velvet. He is sassy as mother fuck. We're here in some stray, is a night, a bell that there's a thought: Orlando at the strangest names around there's more to comment so judge We actually did a fantastic job with this trial, pretty much the opposite of Lance Ito, even The claims made by the defence were outlandish as we'll see things never got out of hand legally and velvet cap, both lawyers on a tight leech, well to be fair
late night spoof, the dancing Belov in early, have the same rights as the dancing EDA dancing. Belgians. Actually, for me, as funnier I might die within our comedy room, I would choose dancing velvets. I actually have a very weird ten gentle story attached the case, so a man or of murder fest broke up with his girlfriend in College of Florida state they will. They had sort of the UN's spoken broke up. She went and cheated on em, with two men in the same night, in the same the same evening, I guess technically it's I thought about the sex, but it is about one of those. Do these two guys in one goes a threesome one of those guys happens Casey Anthony's firmer coworker. At a teacher I Fridays, where she worked for six weeks is true. I was present at the court case a friend of my offer, an cod sent me a message saying to you this this guy
He was he was in a court case. He got fined for contempt of court by Sir by doing surreptitiously giving the finger to the security was talking, we shall do. Judge Belvane then hold contempt of court rails on him for fifteen minutes. It's an incredible video of him just standing Emil up now. Tell me, sir. What is the notion and meaning of the hand signal had poured yesterday too, and then You, Sir stated again said again, so that everyone can you admit it? you want me to go sex might in a court of law. It is like fifteen minutes of it. It's incredible Belgians and credible relevance. Courthouse has to be a show about Casey, Anthony Judge. Belvane said he observed two sides beside that is for the job hurry that wrongful accused put upon grieving mother face and the side
for every one else knows: either stone cold or even somewhat bubbly. At time we ve seen her I think what we ve seen her smiling in court O. Absolutely, you can't not laugh at a bog contest for that, but that was never when the jury was present urban sit as soon as the jury left. The room Casey's face changed as if she was just taken off a mask, Casey's appear: was also like them an end as brothers, carefully choreographed while the man end as brothers were made to look like two innocent young boys in their pastel sweaters guiana, or every there was ease during the mundane. Casey was made to look as plain is possible. Almost like and exasperated single mother dragged into court on a traffic charge. She didn't have time to deal with. I would also goes far to say in virginal white most of her clothes were white. She world things again. I want a lot of court footage and
put a lot of stuff were psychologically, you look and see angel and she just was always just move. No But you can see it has been like wrong. Then mother, I from the prosecution like she could see, adjust shaking her head. Who would you do a queer straight guy but like with plaintiffs and just make em all look like members of the Duggar family or something which I guess, what they went or whatever they did. It worked, although opening statements began on June. Sixth, twenty eleven. Nobody could predict what kind of weird shit cases, legal team would drag out and the defence of Casey Anthony
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then, a day you on Where is really a Marie ain't been each does it for all thirty one days she hates it again and again and again, but without tell goddamn story will get to the murder the prosecutor tried Depend on Casey went like this. She knew the little girl out with poor form that she made herself taped her a nose with three pieces: duct tape to suffocate her and transported the body in a canvas, diaper bag and dumped. Her daughter in the wooded area near their house the prosecution. This whole thing was slam dont case they had pig. Casey Anthony at that's dope, Fridays, the hot the body count. As of course, National Cultural out, they had the duct tape and they had the sister canvas diaper bag found in Casey's room as the one used to transport Kelly was part of a matching set all right, but then
since attorney Jose by as fired back, ok, when I put this first of all right, the opening statement for the prosecution, two hours Long is boring. It is long is arduous. They try to be very detailed, makes a lot of sense. The mistake that been a by is biased roles in, and it's like a pig arms the movie glory with Matthew, broader EC? He isn't it. Turn right seems you know what he's doing immediately. He paints a picture and when he can drops that club of information about George Anthony the whole room
They will have been a year and all these other should from its like it so still, but yet for three years, entertain them. Well, I think that's a back! The whole many occurred. I think I've gotten the prosecutions head as well, because for three years everybody in America or damn near body in America, resign the Casey Anthony's guilty. So they think, like oh yeah, we have to do- is go out there and trot out all this shit. It's already been trotted out and everything's gonna be fine, but then Jose, buys comes in and, like Henry said, drop
a whole bunch of new information on a case that everybody has been waiting for. That's why you play the game like Hermitage word sets Narrow Edward Sir Edward Sir Edward. You use a college as they deserve Edward ok onto the Philadelphia Eagle good. Oh, you play the game. That is why do you play the game? Because, even if you are an underdog, you can still with any Philadelphia eagles are filled with criminals, so would like at the same time of course, kind of wholesale buyers did not deny the case. He had knowledge of her daughter step despite case he said right up until the trial that it was zany the nanny who's responsible, though, by as open with a whole new story. His argument is that the death of cayley anthem had been nothing more than a tragic accident involving the Anthony family above ground pool. Oh no. According to the defence
Some one had left the latter down. Clearly one outside phone the pool and drown all while Casey was asleep. George found the body woke up. Casey, say: look what you ve done. Your mother will never forgive you and so on and so forth. That's when Joe, figured he'd better covered up to protect his daughter. First, he went to the kitchen and got a couple of garbage bags
then took Kelly's body placed it inside the bag and sealed it with duct tape, just like he'd always done when family pets died. I met was Georgia's farce, mistakenly shady to use the patented zip block all draw here on the Nancy Grace and that's me being Q with the whole pet thing. That was the attorneys argument exactly why George treated the body of his own, granddaughter like that of a beloved family cat, would definitely just like, gets what grandfathers always do, especially grandfathers. It used to be cops. They always do that young. They always trying to make an accident. Look like a murderer, so this will actually get nowhere that this whole story came in an absolute though so it totally shattered all of the previous believes gap totally at this was that this was a brand new storyline, George Vince. Personally, transport in the body in the canvas bag dropped it in the wooded areas near his house on his way to work in about his day in that
when Casey took off for a month, There are a few interesting things to say about the poor theory. First, let's examined that very first, nine one one call if Cindy Anthony knew about the pool accident. Why would you make the most call to name one want. Why would she do the tough love call? Why would you do the second caught? Why would you do the third calls ain't? It smells like a damned their body out there that was euphemism for dorm room, it was you who is a dorm room. Remember that for years the answer theirs, thing we know about the Anthony's, it's that they are not very clear when it comes to plan, and in other words, that call not the devious groundwork for grand alibi. Absolutely not! If you listen to the calls that sounds like a flush should woman. She had to call three different times, because she had to make good on the other facetious like we're going to agree and standing, I'm gonna teach my daughter or lessen call that was gonna, be a whole theatrical movement
oh shit. This is actually a real thing that I've been ignoring just what I that's. What I purposely have been ignoring and they all just fall in line with cases lies Casey develops the story. Why gotta short, in my mind, is that I watched endless do they interview. Footage from the positive, their first police investigation in two thousand eight from George Lee in case you me being the brother and you watch their story solidify you the Cindy's stories solidify as it goes, they build it over time by it drop this shit on them. As they were going intercourse- or this was biases idea, this was not a Casey Anthony creation by here's. What we're about to get into the drums? story, didn't come until much might later. In fact, since
Anthony. It said that Cindy Anthony wasn't even told about the drowning story. Until three weeks before the trial began at the three year gap between discovery and trial that she wasn't supposedly told what actually happen. To her grand daughter second for Fun days into those nine Casey Anthony shared a jail dorm with a woman named April wailing on Christmas day. Two thousand and seven, the body of April Wayland, fifteen month old son was found, drowned in the family pool by April's father and oddly similar story. Ok, no, which is parallel thinking, dog meat. That is what it is such a thing as plagiarism. She just me. Yes, she may be is close to a careless mincio move right up, but theres many differ material that can be made for many different walks of life. Your equating someone steel into joked, stealing a story lied about child. That's been murdered, yes, I mean is. It seems like a lot of people killed in their kids.
There are in jail guy yeah yeah did I hang it out at a dongle, doughnuts ex emperor fact. You probably here the same stories, I n n D, dining area, a document on the people who sit at don't get it. Do you live down? Every border I fell asleep, but about one third appear who worked on the Anthony case said that he was the one who actually came up with the drowning story. After looking at aerial photographs of the Anthony home in a tabloid, he said that he was looking at the photograph any notice that the poor ladder was down. This p, I Domini Casey, no relation said he case here an Jose, openly discussed, Casey's guilt and the drums, story was agreed upon in a brainstorming session between the three why their rights another p, I tune in Jim Hoover. This problem p eyes. I love
again and I'm gonna go back to it. It's my fault back plan. That's what I want to do They are not reliable. Now goes, you know who becomes private investigators, people like me, Adele stories for living and all their cash Hungary, and they wanted to say this is what they do. What they do there, they are for higher so they have no boss sick. I listen to a bunch of an interview with the police with Jim Hoover who's, the other p IDA. They had hired a work. What that was Dominic partner, he's just like we literally zoo Fgm. Is me our colonel wow willing when he said that, as I Bismarck and also by then, he goes on to say that they had a lot of talk about this in a little be interesting about how Georgian Cindy were both heavily guess I'm not throwing Casey under the boss, but it was a family thing so back to the trial with death out of the way by has moved on to the discovery of the body. He claimed that Roy Kronk utility worker, who found the remains had me
The remains from another location staging the whole thing for fun and profit to correct it up a protocol which is moving the bones of a child from one place to another, very specifically by the Does have Kronk, did admit that a key joke to his co workers about hidden the lottery by finding this dead little girl are giant to not tell any of his axe. Wives. Well, that is strange. Bit. Scarcity came to work with that nighttime security officer, you know, like he's, got a lotta. We're dealing with a lotta does allow Kate out. In this case you think, is coworkers laughed because that's woman had said classic crag cross strange Son did say: Kronk called him in November, telling him that his old man was gonna, be famous for finding out dead.
And yes, all of his Ex wife described Kronk is inappropriate with children. Violent towards women and undoubtedly capable of Kelly's murder. However, it seems like Kronk was distant idiot piece of shit lookin for a payday, an excuse to talk to the kids. You didn't want to talk to him anymore, colic, the ressler the resolution on a MAC anyway. So this is our child. Corpse down at him become a better father so that this is technically Missus Dale Fire for several different Missus Dale fires equals and there is nothing more Florida than flight decomposing corpses to me like he had paid what it is like. Where is the compassionate? Yes, just because he look for things with his pen, like Gerard Dep, or do you looking for a bathroom in the dark, but does not mean that ISA murder? No none of this museum murder always nor does it mean that he moved the location of the body
what he did move, though, was the skull when he picked it up by the eye. Socket nests gave a defence there first shot across the bows when it came to forensics since re tampered with the scene, the defence the whole damn thing was contaminated and all you could say was: I'm sorry you're going. I'm sorry I do know just did it just like. I was curious. I wanted to make sure I don't like honestly when it comes down to it. If its a skull, I'm just gonna, make up that. I'm sure I don't need actually look at it. I'll tell the story and L. If someone else tell me that I'm wrong, but there wasn't even the biggest bombshell from the opening statements glorious shit. This is all just opening statements here, Jose wrapped up. His opening statement with another page taken from the Menendez handbook, molestation, always with them all a station. They didn't molest, but the problem is that they told them, as they were going into that day. That they're like just so you know, it was like a yadda yadda yadda the process.
Should turn to George Anthony's they're gonna accuse you of Molesting Casey. You Do not react as a part of what being in the, because both there were not only witnesses in the trial, but there are family members of the accused, so they were allowed to be in the courtroom as it happened, but also anybody's in the courtroom, which is why my stupid friend got hit with a what what's the put, the term contempt of court was because he made a fucking face Z, given finger so Georgia Anthony's horse, you just sit there and react which people on the on the whole don't really understand. So he does. This bombshells dropped saying that he molested very graphic doing. Spells out too, like very, very graphic to try to get the jury's attention, and then you see Georgie Anthony sitting there like a stone and, of course, people real people immediately like look at that sociopath. But it's like you wasn't a lotta make her face and I'm certain he was.
A form of shock me, I'm sure sooner, were they in on the on the accusations. There were Georgians, India, like all right. Well, that's fine, we'll take the head here now we got no idea, you molested her laugh. Why would she party now they did not know bed, they did not know at all. Like buyers came out and he said that Georgia Anthony had sexual Unmolested Casey Anthony, starting which he was eight years old. You know what your genes Georgette Initiative done there. What check? Please, let's get a biased said that case been molested throughout her childhood and adolescents. This why Casey showed no emotion during those thirty one days by this claim that years of hiding the sexual abuse going on home from the rest of the world, TRAIN Casey to put our emotions in the back seat, where no one could see them and the death of her daughter was just another family secret to bear. So
by is just basically realised at it fence attorney. You can just make it out thing to say jazzy any poor, because the bridge, the burden of proof is not right. It's on the prosecution. So we just Alex Jones, the whole thing and there's no way to disprove what you say and again the power of lies. You just gotta, say, and then every year everybody's got a fucking be back on their heels, trying to prove that you are wrong and I then he pulls the fucking brother into a two who's. The one. Do they didn't do anything? I was just trying to live as life yeah. He said that the brother had also been inappropriate with Casey. There was a whole familial incest thing and so after this, the buyers was gonna hit. The prosecution hard with these molestation claims does the whole time because after all the more nation that was the centre piece of them an end as brothers defend rise, but here as put his own, spend on the tactic. He never meant
and it again for the entirety of the trial, so is cut a like. He had no evidence for it and then nothing to back it up and interesting. The way you say it is spent on a sound like you just starting with the plan. I've been crazy, Anthony in his way to the end of the trot range. No witnesses, no expert. No mention of it in any cross examinations. Commission brought it up. Another forced to Sudan to yet another after, like their first invalidates the whole thing to exact lion. Can I anything real, quick eye. Who believe I want to believe in victims Ray I wanted The people come forward and say that they ve been you ve been attacked, they ve been sexually molest. I want to believe these people. They are victims of assault. The problem with Casey Anti is that she is already lived. An entire lie, for so long that it gets
the point where we where's the line. Where, whereas the line between you have been proven to be a liar again and again and again, this is thing now that I know we are now forced to go examine because we want to believe victims, but your piece of shit and makes this horrider on everybody else, and the defence is also rolling the lie into the lie like the rolling all the lies into the whole molestation him goes like well, ok, yes, she's! A liar she's been alarmed improved by a liar over and over again, but not this because this time that thing that we're saying happened, that's why she lies she's lying about everything else. But she's not line about this in this thing that she's not lying about is why she lies about everything else. You know when you so roles lies in two other lies mainly thicker cinnabar, we discuss, does not have a suitable gather. The prosecutions First witness was George Anthony and they had to. Of course they had to they had opened by asking him if he had ever molested his daughter when he's like now,
course, not use like no sir. No, no, of course not, but it was when it was biases turn for the cross examination. Everyone expected in just barrage, George with questions about the molestation accusations, but instead by went for Georgia's two thousand nine suicide attempt see not too long after Kelly's body was found. George just or broken the hard reality that his granddaughter was indeed dead and that his daughter was probably responsible for it. He went to hotel in Daytona Beach. Take a bunch of bill. Drink a lot of beer and left a note that said I needed I'll be with Cayley. Oh, my goodness languid owner beach, already time in this manner. Of course, I mean have ended up images him hanging out with the NATO Gonzales at a pool of different story altogether, but it was, it was not. Defence claim that the suicide attempt was was done out of guilt? Did he
I mean you must have told people about the suicide while beg gender. They found it. He went missing, he is, he essentially went missing. He sent a bunch of tax to people saying like good bye. You know, I'm gonna, do it and then the cops fella triangulated, a cell phone. They found him before and we're ever like pompous stomach lad. Defence, said that George had tried to kill himself because of guilt because he had disposed of the body and biased am aegis, hammered away this poor grieving grandfather and all the while Casey Anthony, sat there just don't fuckin cold but also if your George, you dont, want to see your daughter go to prison for life and she's facing murder, jar, Emmy, capital, murder. So after the molestation think he was edge and a little bit closer towards cinder away yeah. He was gonna look of seconds. You realize what he'd finally got himself caught in. You said something in his first police interview.
Where he was just like. You know how hard it is to live with two women like he said that if it comes under the earth, I do Who believed that, up to this point, he thought that UK he thought the case. He had something to do with it, but he was hold. Not all hope it did. They settled time. Maybe just maybe there was A there's, some kind of extenuating circumstances. Somebody else involved atomic this happen once it dropped on his lap you'd. Like all fuck, my daughters, the stone cold psychopath my wife, who I've said several times, is the mirror image of my daughter. Is also a psychopath. He spoke and start like? A mother, fucker and part of this- has got to do with his silence if there entire lives in the fact that he never went Liam niece. In these other thing about watching trial for fucking hours and hours, I saw gettin angrier and angrier at George.
Cindy and Lee. Nobody cared about the kid enough to break this silence, that was in that house, because no one wanted to talk to Qc Anthony about her fucking, lies because you were afraid, shit you're off, so what they did was Let this happen in a way they just being levied anything he's just kind of like what the most Emily's, weird yeah yeah. I do I am available here I mean George was half right, Godaddy totalling get smashed just get drunk, but that means now, but the pills, the bills. So after the prosecution got George Anthony out of the way they went tat lies the lack of emotion and all the party girl stuff, all of which we covered up the ladder episode and then they got the car forensics, going through all the evidence. We also talked about in the first episode step by step, smell stain, hair, etc. What we didn't talk about, though
where the infamous Google's I just sounded, like my mom, describing the internet spur of what is in fame is Google Henry Meta Mazato? I said this as I go on guide on three march. Two thousand and eight months before the death, the poor accusing claim that someone in the Anthony House had made searches using internet explorer for the word here a form. Eighty four times: that's it if she did this combined with the chloroform particles found in the trunk of doktor? Our pod vos was where the prosecution from their claim that Cayley Anthony was knocked out, use gear form. That was the duct tape. There were three he's is present. Although investigative reports and trial testimony went back and forth between the taping found on the skull and found near the skull. It's real,
difficult to pinpoint whether or not the duct tape was attached to the skull, because all of the picture I could find of the remains is disgusting. They're all blur because it's a child, so they don't want you to see where it actually was attached. It seems like a guy caught in whatever was left of the remains air which very sad, but I do not. But did not keep us all. So, even so the attempted got line came from the medical examiner, Doktor G, who is now ninety two episodes into her, show Doktor GI medical examiner on the discovery. Healthcare Nokia, Madam, is Doctor Randolph Guerrilla, and they may make change my name in order to have this television show so high. Welcome to Doktor G medical examiner were today. I'm gonna learn how to have sex with a woman start your tree is a woman over that's nice. Don T said. There is no reason to put duct tape on the face after they die. They thought that
solutions, Alec, fuck yeah, that's the line that what's gonna get home and energy also said that while one piece would have been enough to suffocate the girl, Casey used three to make damn sure work first. Peace went over the mouth second over the nose and just to be thorough. The third cover both in the prosecution rested. They they hit one out of the park there's no way. This is gonna end in any way, but victory wrote that was before were introduced to a little catchphrase Jose by as cooked up to hammer away at the whole. Reasonable doubt thing
fantasy forensics, he then pitch that showed the seed w as a reality show with celebrities doing Forensics Brian Austin Green, hang out, like we had a hot tub in the morgue that Beverly Hills nine or to one oh, don't mind. If I do so immediately by as went to work, dismantling forensic evidence put forth by the prosecution they got branding, he got it. You got Jonah like little code words, they get a great story, news dinner. He started with the smell science of doctor r pod off the guy with the paint cans in the world. Just let me have my labs. You want some fuk smell. I can make it, but not with my boss with chemicals. Do you want the broccoli smell, I'm going to need some broccoli
it does seem like here? There's you know a little wriggle room to discredit this guy well paid job perishable, but I mean biased pointed out that this is the first time doktor bosses method had ever been used in a criminal court and, furthermore, Boston even have a doctor in chemistry. Specialization wasn't anthropology, but to be fair, doktor bosses, where was legitimate. He worked at the famous Andrews. Better Body Farm Knoxville, Tennessee and his work on de compositional chemistry was published in the peer reviewed journal of Forensic, saw forensic studies, scope wasn't fuckin around
range gonna have a first day with what I mean. I am very annoying that guy, and also where we were watched and blue planet is this guy that he spends his life using high powered microphones to listen to corals. Any SAM you go and look at. It is amazing, profound from a cholera linear cuts to the sound that is technically interesting, but also like an amateur wrestler coming in flakes this march, the new limited for part british many series collateral, starring, carry Mulligan Johnson and Niccolo Walker set over the coup support is in London collateral. Explores the spiralling repercussions surrounding the fatal, seemingly random, shooting of a pizza delivery boy, detective inspector Kip class beef played by Carry Mulligan refuses to accept that this is a random acts of violence and is determined to find out if there's a dead,
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Albert Standard is tested. When an attorney raises a Delbert motion, Our motion comes an attorney believes and expert, maybe unqualified. What's a dull Burton hello, my name is France's Dahlberg, and now we could tell if this scientists is telling the truth or not. Is that I will lay down in this pool of water and if I sank, if the lie and also I am aware that psychedelic among monotony rule and things like that, like they just get named after people showing a nerd some guy back in the day, they made everybody, stop and he's like. Let's talk to the scientists, because ass guide, you shut up in a lab coat and a reduced assume, there was a parking scientists Dahlberg win that they raise it when like windows, but prosecution or defence it brings in expert in the other sites like that guy, doesn't know what he's talking about their raises Albert motion. This inequality
our motion, member him from coach. I look. Barbara was the best men encountered. Your boss, the defence brought in a chemistry professor from Florida, International University named Doktor CAN Fulton. I do believe the Florida International University is taught in the living room of a man's out. Just like us. I'm out, I have not heard many good things about EF. I you know I say Thomas was the commissioner for a little while I didn't go well. Doktor Ferguson testify that there was no hard consensus as to what chemicals are typical to human decomposition. Furthermore, Judge Perry ruled that the jurors would not be allowed to smell the air samples to decide for themselves whether the tree truly smelled like death or like a sack of rotten pizza, then buyers took aim Vasile claim about poor form, Vasile. The trace amounts of poor form are usually found in the air in parts per trillion. That's not uncommon in the air sample from
trunk though it was found in parts per Mille, I see this as we're trials- is get bore it s where he is gone. You like, I, don't sure. Ok as a jerk me like I need launch. I know that I need luncheon lunches provided one, When is it come because they know that every hour and a half to get a break jurors eyebrows de? Can you step likin and eating your own jes terribly? Well, maybe if there is some kind of order, as I'm gonna knock them, I will be able to do my job as a member of a jury of this guilty woman spares. I excuse you bring your own pig in a blank, a majestic at a hog and comfort, we're buyers counter this whole parts per million versus parts per trillion thing. The guy who said it wasn't really that weird that there was so much chloroform ask reform is present in plenty of everyday items, including cleaning,
supply, leaning, broad eyes, maybe maybe there she was cleaning her Pontiac Son fire, but she just missed a rotten pizza just cleaning around the basically like that's part of the trunk. Before that peat all white addresses all before he's in a fit is the Google search his went Cindy Anthony fully behind her daughter on Alai once more said that she was the one who did the search and even then, It was more of a curious accident so stupid that doesn't make sense that sets, I think, is an extensive, curious accident, see the end the family dog had a habit of eating bamboo leaves off a bamboo plant in the back yard. Dog was seem a little lethargic cindy. Wondering if the leaves had anything to do with it doesn't know the dog. Wasn't it and the dog that not a poke indulges dog dogs? Could sleep again does with dogs? Do they sleep fourteen hours, day,
it was wondering, leaves had anything to do with it. So she sat down to Google chlorophyll. No, she would go. Could I don't I'll modest Google I'll, even myself, Google, it like a dog bamboo leaves bad question mark. That's all you do that's right! That's how you, Google Search Albert. I got all right looking for chlorophyll lookin for chlorophyll, you know what it's more like. Our land I'm pretty sure I'll finish. Warlike bore a veil is that we could have fun anymore, but when auto Phil showed Chloroform Cindy click on that out of curiosity, oh, she took one quickly. At one side about the use of chloroform in the nineteenth century and then move on to a chlorophyll research in the process.
She had quite a few things to say about this claim. They said the first of all Cindy was at work that day time cards and computer record show that, at the very least someone was using Cindy's credentials on the day in question. Second, there The eighty four times claim member that. Yet I remember I. Why would someone Google chloroform the curiosity eighty four eighty four times they have OECD the pan expire, all midges typing chloroform over and over again or their writing all walls, or they just didn't, do Oh I like this defence in there. What? If what if they didn't do it they actually approved behind this one. Oh see that claim about Casey about Cindy Anthony being work. You, argue like maybe Pino kiss. Any Anthony went home and you have stayed logged in at work and maybe one of our co workers is usinor credentials whatever, but the eighty
times claim here too simple. Answer on that on the software The prosecution used had made an error. Oh they were telling the truth. The Anthony family was actually telling the truth when they said they only search chloroform. What's so tired, very little so tired, boring hours and our this. This is why people go to Nancy Grace, cause she's, making fun and she's saints Birch day of testimony from that bet. My very much so we got a little truth here for the Anthony family and the truth come that that this does go. Only I am clear must this up so bad. You have no idea how we're gonna get into a later Then Jose went for the duct tape. He's The state had used cordon quote junk science in their claims, pointing to the fact that there were no fingerprints present on the duct tape. However, the FBI they weren't,
spectin fingerprints. This tape had been outside for months and ninety degree plus temperatures in Florida, floods, anything which your prince or oils washed off long before the body was found, but that didn't stop by he double down so that not only should there have been fingerprints, there should in DNA on both sides of the tape is well. No, it wasn't murder, it was dad's old, put the body in the bag and tape it up routine. That produce the duct tape. Guy dot make very just to persecute putting her poor little girl of putting diaper beg, leave dearest, duct tape remotely attach the face of a dead little girl. You speak to him something to do with murder, not just saw offsetting hurry. I have something for you what do you say about the dog tabled on the face near the phased in dense murder. What I say, maybe it wasn't near the face, ah see, there's that claim that
it was holding the mandible in the skull together Buyers said that that tape was just put there by cops during transit to keep it together. You know just almost fell out of the prosecution, even during the prosecutions turn. There was no consensus as too. If the day was found, The face or bound near of the body, saw gulls bunk how many bungled, and all this was put into perspective by German. Doktor Vernon spits without yeah I like it, I dont applaud to art, gets older spits. Vernon vanish beats spits Roca. This guy is a classic. He is very, very funny. Yes, you are you're gonna duties of involving crazy cases, but tough talks like speedily, really like what you would expect. The german dogma
spends has actually been involved in an insane amount cases from the assassination of J F K to fill spectre too. Of course, the Oj Simpson Civil trial, which sell my keys becoming more of a suspect, as far as I am concerned, is involved in all these cases, but before you, pig spits as a scientific spoiler, no, that is only work on the OJ civil trial was to testify that wrong. Goldman, Nicole Brown sense and didn t die from multiple step. One says very easy stuff to do. I'm and I could have done that gap they had stamped were stabbed in the case of Casey. Anthony, though spits took the autopsy performed by Doktor GI apart piece by piece, not that that was a very difficult thing to do, because he was right. The investigators half ass, damn near everything in this case spits is not a bad man. Fact he's one of the most respected forensic scientists and the entire world he's just a guy who can't
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other scientists brought him by the defence with solid as well. Doktor. Laura Cobb Linsky was actually an early proponent of using dna evidence in court room, but even he had to admit Unless there's a route in on a hair, a motto control match is the best. You can do so means that you know in court. He had to come and say like yeah it mitochondrial and yeah. It was untreated and yeah it was. Around the same length is Kelly's here, but we say conclusively that it belongs two cayley, but we can't you about again. We, though Beggar thy was the prosecutor just really, but can we two words? Can stunned with at seems mean seems joke the people. Actually it's it's fucked up, because these nobody, cause you stole murder weapon, because prosecution couldn't put together the story in the timeline with hard core facts
the thirty one days that it took for the for them to realise that she was missing chain, everything like gets kind of what it did essentially Florida? Eight, the evidence, swamps the crimes Whoever did it make abusing the words consistent with because they didn't have the body they didn't, have the murder weapon so all day. Could, they couldn't say, is based to take consistent where there was never anything conclusive for the jury. No CSI moment bullshit help pose a bias mislead the jury into confusing a reasonable doubt with. A reason to doubt as Oj Simpson Prosecutor March Car put it in an article. She wrote about the trial noise, I said, but or the defence never again mention the molestation in the trial, not even in the closing statements, but there was One other thing they didn't mention at all during arguments as well, the drowning no ever
just put forth. No questions were asked almost as if they'd never even brought it up in the first place, did you try to read biases book presumed guilty? No, I try to read it in a really made, be upset and, like I couldn't get through it and I'm trying to be impartial because she is innocent, then she's not guilty Tudor she's not guilty, but she did it You want to come out with a clear mind, but it really comes down to the fact that the I don't know man they just didn't. They couldn't put store together. They just couldn't say are important but hope. By, as could write especially in his closing arguments. Ok, Where's the closing arguments went, the prosecution went first, they repeated their whole Kay and went through all the forensics once more talk. Lying in the lack of emotion and then run it all out with one question whose life
was better with Cayley Anthony Dead, and this was followed by a slide, show pictures of Casey Dancing, the Bela Veto, tattoo and so on and so forth, but also remember this. This is too I mean this is where fucked up? Obviously right cause! I am realizing to dig deeper. We go into this case. It is really difficult to tell people how to grieve and how to act like the fact that they pin this whole thing on essentially slug, shaming Casey and doing They try to paint or character is that they put it on a slippery slope, because you to deal with a bunch of people that also have to sit and think about what would I be like rain total paying? Most of the time you one try to act like nothing's happening like I dont, but I've been casein tat. He did it to a sociopath, completely trashy level who hasn't parted. You know damn for the Youtube comments for each one of the police interviews. I was stupid
like Lee, Anthony and Georgie Anthony everyone's this map to these judgment, calls of like how, dear he laugh, how dear he act like this act like it so be it really difficult to pin down what human behavior supposed to be like in the area is very difficult to just say she slide and families sometimes just automatically fill in because essentially it's like using the it's like what AIDS does to the body. It's like the immune system. Instead of helping you is killing you it's interesting, you know, prosecutors also made a huge mistake. Gift Yes, my closing or even twenty five dollar gift card to apple up. That's a lot actually added Applebee's, that's Marguerite as in appetizer. Is they weren't? Thinking like a limited appetizers depends what day or time you go,
said with such sad. This is always a good ones that are limited in his arms and we don't have the barometer tonight why you put it on a goddamn. Maybe you ve ragged upper me and my fuckin, huge faint I've been, wants a want on Taco five times vast I'll, take it. So there was a problem you are right, then the defence took their The reason why they didn't bring up the molestation in closing ardent arguments, because judge, forbade, Judge Belburg made a good call here, because he said you didn't put in evidence whatsoever forth. You didn't see anything about it during the trial and we don't have any evidence to introduce in the closing arguments so much like they just said it's a similar of buyers opened a mere like
Furthermore, Georgia Anthony is Frankenstein's monster every day is a part of the whims of Doktor Frankenstein who we will hear from today, and this quarter mainly doesn't show up. It is demanded by good cryptic eyepatch just sitting by two There was one tiny bit of evidence for the drowning during closing statements. Jose, showed a picture of Cayley Anthony at the back door of the Anthony House. Putting it on her own and in the background, was the pool and with that, the defence rested they literally relax, because we are all thinking about the poor about. It is so essential my fourth twenty eleven independence Day, o the case was placed in the hands of the jurors after less then eleven hours the verdict was returned. On the charges of first degree, murder agri
the child abuse and aggravated man slaughter of a child, the jury found the dependent, not guilty? Not Gill nets footage when, when Casey, here's the not guilty verdict, it takes a second priority, set it down, and then it's over strange smile ass. You see that we are because you does. It have to have the mask on any manoeuvre that its odds yeah. She smiles like you'd ever go to like you, get a lot of things from like target or came out, and they accidently put like spatula in their without charging YO and undoubtedly what they think that kind of smiling you just walk a little bit faster to regard. Will you realize She was, however, found guilty of lying to the cops and further she was sentenced to four years and present. However, since he'd, been incarcerated for three years awaiting trial and had earned time off good behaviour. Casey Anthony was led out of jail ten days after her sentence was handed down while when they
stirs. Why, dear God, why did they let her go? They said it was because the prosecutors had not painted a picture. There was evidence, you lied in evidence. She wasn't the greatest mom there was no clear cut there. It is evidence that
she was a murderer. That's why sometimes every defence team has to have an artist someone to be like, let's bring together. Ok, it's all do this. They needed director need a choreographer as but they need up like a pamphlet. Nothing can have now, but I think you're allowed to do that either. No, I it's just again without a body without a method of murdering. Without all of this shit like in the ain't again, it's very difficult for anybody to smaller than a mother would kill her child, but they don't really understand how far in deep narcissism can go. So basically they got the party girl thing, but I think that the murderer part that is among them is the bay. What did some of them even said? They wished? There was more evidence to put her away that they believe she had actually killed her child. The defence had introduced a reasonable doubt, in other words, these years had something in common with Casey Anthony herself. They all.
They were being real, fucking, clever, when in reality they had no idea that what they were doing. Oh, it's like hosting a podcast grand jury, Europeans County and I saw that on a regular basis. One example was we the they arrest Skype. Her hair, when in marijuana, vile and the jury's we're not going to Origin for the marijuana we'll just charge for the heroin, but that's the big one yeah you know is, but they were like so basic, you just took the leverage off the table to be like. We can charge you for that. We want for the heroin, but so anyway, yeah there. Would they over thought it? It was so stupid, it's all about over, think we're it. They allowed Jose biased to completely remove common sense from the equation. All while Jose was making them feel like they were being real, goddamn smart with this decision. He gave them a reason to doubt yes, but that doesn't mean That doubt was reasonable, so speak in it,
people think in their being real goddamned, smart, let's get into what I think and now you're gonna worry I'll. Let you just run through this very complicated theory of your is virtually it's actually very simple. Of course, when it comes out o J did it ever was a party what this theory involves is again remember. Human factors lie and negligence aside. Our silent killers when monoxide my carbon monoxide and blood pressure right here we go. Ok, the mark Parkes theory on case here, an improper, not the only person other who has this theory but small. Nonetheless, I'm sorry, I didn't, I didn't double checked, see anybody. I have time to go through and see if anybody else on the owners are about, there's been driving or Georgia
The internal is our both reported. That cayley would sometimes we pretend that thirteen hours at a time and wake up with heavy black bags under her eyes, not normal for a child that age now. I think it's fuckin ridiculous to think that Casey Anthony had the real world smarts to make chloroform at home. Casey didn't have chloroform, but what Casey did have plenty of access to was annex Zan ain't? No, you may have already pick this up. Think about Sammy. The nanny Zani, as we said, is a street name for Santa Ex, specifically among shitty club kids. Like the ones case. He was hanging out when that's very possible. If not likely that case, you have been dozing your kid for weeks with that shit as an ex had just become a recent addition to her life with her new boyfriend. Tony was our own and the club lifestyle he live, hence Zani. The nanny then the Google searches. As I said, the chloroform search was made using internet explorer and that's the only
think they would really match chemical forensics with Casey, but who uses internet explore moms easier than he didn't use internet explorer. She used Firefox and guess what browser history never made its way into the hands of the prosecution fire why Kizil you're getting this whole Firefox internet explorer thing was uncovered by couple a keeper type people like amateur webs loose who met online. However, this isn't just something I found on a message board. This was reported by a local Orlando New Station and confirmed by people within the Orange County Sheriff Department. These to amateurs, got ahold of Anthony's Firefox history and went to work combing every bit of it they found on they clearly was killed. A number of interesting things happen: I'm Anthony family computer at eighty Casey logged on to AOL, instant messenger and chatted up a guy with the screen name, White Playboy, and that the belgian w I t, P L.
Why be? Oh? Oh, he spark gap piece of yes superfine Heroes So what are you up to and then using an or are you and the number two in place of actual were cool guy yeah in case he responded with not a whole lot. Checking but all the Myspace Facebook hoop LAW continued. The nice base- facebook, coop law for several hours after that, viewing over a thousand different pages, seeing all the pond her new and old friends without children were having, without or child free life, now available in glade to thirty PM, George Anthony left for work. Now. What I am about to say is completely troop, backed up and confirmed at two fifty one Casey Anthony using Firefox Google but term fool proof suffocation, because the persecution, didn't search the buyer box portion of that computer. They missed ninety eight,
seven per cent of the browser history records for July thirteen delight sixteenth two thousand and eight bungled knelt foolproof suffocation could possibly be the name of a band of a friend of Tony Lazard around, but I dont man exists. I don't think so. You know who knew about that poor proof, suffocation search, hose by hats. Now he wrote in that book the Henry mentioned earlier. He wrote in his book about the trial that he We expect the prosecution is sandbagging with all this. He thought it could be the knock out punch that would put a needle and Casey's arm, but it never happened. It now. Came by every day he's just like every day. I have everything window bungled. They bungling buyers, like his defence, for it even admit, was weakest fuck because he was going to say that oh George, Anthony had suicidal tendency, so George Anthony was the one that was looking up foolproof suffocation, but the power
fusion, never said Jack Shit and impact completely bundled up even on the internet, explorer searches. Eighty. Or what Eddie four or one they done every step of the way that the fingers get pointed and a lot of different directions. Here. The prosecution says the Orange County Sheriff's office, who is in charge of extracting the data never handed over to them, which is true, The always CEO says they didn't handed over because the price, Seclusion never asked for it. Even though this was two thousand ten two thousand eleven technological know. How has made huge strides during this decade? But back then, do you honestly, the always seo even knew there were other browsers. Besides internet explorer available- and this they say the prosecution never asked for them to search suffocation.
As usual. We asked for Chloroform Y yeah because they didn't understand that you could do it because at the time remember, Firefox was invaded testing out. There is many times we give. You went and got a good was empty. When I got my gmail thing, I got my name in Gmail because I gotta on offer to be it has Gmail and I just did, but there but a government agency does it know this shit unless they use it and how you just just judges for chlorophyll is checked. A dolphin score did did or Lando MAGIC did they trade away for a while and shares Captain Angelo Nieves called the whole thing quote: an oversight, an oversight GAD over saying quote. Has been a real learning.
Sperience for investigators as well and honestly isn't that enough of a punishment for us. We ve learned our lesson. I think we ve all just water under the bridge. Oversight is forgetting that make flurry we never stamped out to buy your family Mcdonald's dinner. That's ridiculous secures what I think happened Casey Anthony spends all morning lookin at the various Myspace and Facebook pages of other kids, and there lay teens early twentieth just out avenant great time on Old Orlando, so she had a fatal case of Foma. Her father leaves for work, He looks over at her daughter and thinks fuck this. I don't want this. Life, any ball. She, Google, for proof. Suffocation finds a mention of duct tape and moves forward. However, she's not a serial killer. She's taking no joy in the actual murder of her child. It's just a means to an end so make easier on both her child and herself. She takes too
he had to say any the nanny corn on call caught him quote, calling coil homes or follows annex after the kids out Casey puts the tape The mouth and nose then waits for cayley to expire. She then stuffs the body in a garbage bag takes it out to her car. In the canvas bag found in her room and places in the trunk of the Pontiac. Some fire when she go to Tony Lazzaro have to watch jumper, though the body still there. So why did she do that? Cause Anthony, didn't have a plan. She knew does so who knows how long that body was left in the trunk The body was scowled tonight when it was found. We had no idea. It's possible. Casey was driving around with the body in the trunk of her car right up until the car was toad and what detail you may have missed about. That was where the car was parked. It's not important, but the car was parked at a czech cashing place. What was important visit? It was parked next to a dumpster
because what was found in Casey Anthony's trunk garbage it's possible. Hazy, Anthony rooted around in the dumpster found in appropriate bag, a pizza and left it in the trunk. Thinking rotting. Sack of garbage would eventually cover up the debt smell, but to people by that time had already noticed, but why would she just try to clean it? First, that's where the chloroform comes, most likely Casey Anthony tried to clean her trunk to get rid of the snow. To some cleaning products contain by admission of the defence reform. There it is still. Despite all this by all the lying in the fuck ups and the stumbles Casey Anthony, win free. So basically you're saying that Facebook is to blame. Yes, Facebook. I did it again. Facebook has done it volcanic again once thanks Zuckerberg. So this is my tiny, my tiny rebuttals. I think that it,
If there are this, is where I again, the human factor comes in. I think that either She did do exactly as market set in drugged, cayley and put the duct tape on her mouth and muttered. I I think that that quite possible, I think, is also quite possible that she drowned and cheap. Older out of the better. The problem is, and then, where did the duct tape comprehend this sticker? That was on her face how the sticker stand or face the web sticker was also something the bias came back with, because the two gator had noted that there was adhesive residue of a stick her, but then when they went back to look, there was no adhesive residue there. Yes, and the doctors match rare role of duct tape. There was in the house, it was also on the gas cans which are a part of the gas countenance in it so badly. It came from my house. It came a came from Casey. We gotta remember with which you put case in the trunk, and this is brutally sad
very similar to any other serial killer. This serial killer, light thinking, Cayley went away. Is Cayley, went to that trunk Casey Anthony inner selfishness just kept moving forward saying on live in a new life. That's an old Ikey Life- this is just residue of it. Cayley then goes from being her little girl to being a problem is also remember. There's there's made theres many motives here too. Why she may be could have killed it. It's not just because of Facebook is also weird thing between Cindy in Casey. They brutal fights are part of the reason why they say that there are multiple calls from Casey Anthony to Sydney Anthony on the day of her murder that since didn't answer and saw because I'm some weird conspiracy, it's because they were in the middle of a fight, We were supposed to go with them to her grandmother her grandmothers house, there were supposed to go to inhabit a day out with her with her great grandparents and she no, because Kalen he's gone
and so Sidney was freaking out, and you know what was happening in the meantime. So it's too, its monstrous, but it just went into a thing the that Cuba put back. She can't see the kids face anymore. It was their untold started to smell. She took the bag out dumped. It is fast she could its closer. The house's she could go on her travels back and forth because we also realise she's been travelling from toenails Oros House, where he stood nothing but make it mixes. Implants smash brothers, which is all that he talked about it in his country in his tapes, playing video games. She'd, like always be the Milsom Collar drama she's, there she saw cause outside should be real seek republic, I'm trying to learn. I do the mega made. Explosion in earlier dates I think you're close you at the bag, a garbage with something that she just kind of floating improv, no dead,
He was like fuck it. It's melting, autonomous, yeah yeah. I remember I am pretty pretty similar. Daily is gone, and it is very sad strictly sad. You look at that baby in what it and when I hear what I mean is even more it's impossible, the Casey Magna part of it. Why Casey killers to punish the mother right sure? I see that because of her having a baby, the first place Cindy up to that point. Apparently, one interesting thing that Lee said in his testimony was that so DE said shit to case see along the lines of cayley. Was your best mistake, but it's still a mistake. Kelly was a mistake. You were you are not raising our correctly or what they ve had multiple talks about this? She was stealing money from the parents. She was stealing money firmly. Did a lotta, weird shit connected to it that made it.
Like a family thing. Are you have come full circle here we gotta arm toddlers Paley should have been armed with a little guy cute little God tie you and the irony guns for tiny toddlers and the bullets send a message, but they don't necessarily kill yeah, so abandoned two thousand eleven, two thousand and eighteen now they are you're welcome aware of these other cause you ve ever bed, as is the one time I know. I'm rouses agency, I am correct on the year, are very confident in law, but I'm confident what year did we is Casey Anthony all people magazine segment. Where is she now just pop up ever known again? Doesn't as of last summer Casey, Anthony is shocked up in a wood paneled house, with the lead investigator for her defence. Pat Mckenna, p
die? What do they talk about all that? Well, he is a very died red headed man. Who's been his sixties and ease live in the All I know the name Pat Mckenna sounds familiar because Mckenna. Was also the lead investigator for Oj Samson and, in fact, Casey said an interview that she can empathize with OJ. She says she sees quote: oh, a parallel between the two up book, that being Asia, where we were about that later than swim team, and no one talks about that. May call me, MRS Electricity, in fact Quote Casey. Anthony said, we were bound two high profile cases where there were a lot of distorted facts. I've gone through the files and I can say independently without fleeing by us. The timeline doesn't make sense, Casey issues. We got you here.
Getting around you. So so killed, Galea, you did. You got in better does this two games are three replay smash brothers. If you beat me, I killed K. Guy is every possible this Pat Mckenna guys just let in case you live with them out of the goodness of us are also known, as you know, in Florida, theres many ways to find a wife, our line by get neurotic capital or murder. George claims made in lawsuits against Casey suggest something otherwise p. I who worked on the Anthony case, the same one city cooked up the drowning story, so that one He arrived at, whose a by, as is offices to
Casey Anthony, run and out a bias is personal office naked in gig, one hot God, because it Casey Anthony actually get sued by quite a few people are aware, as MRS inner bankruptcy case, that all this came out and another time this p. I said that entry refused a media interviewed by as set up for two edge bias. Replied, ok Now you owe me three blowjobs and then they laughed about, and this is all one substantiated. Yes
You see me. I know things are uneasy for Casey Anthony, bother you becoming the man about town about a tumble. We were all thought it because I keep bigger that they did that. I thought about that all time from big basket, but our life is in your hands. Buyers talking to the jury, her father, who, to this day, believes they heard to his daughter. Is a hundred percent guilty refuses to die you're, probably because the whole falsely accusing him the lifeline, pattered molestation, yeah, yeah, yeah Cindy. On the other hand, still Oxter Casey and is once again fully on her side still married yeah georgian Cindy. Yes, he believes that she quote asked God to show justice when came to her daughters, guilt and whenever verdict came through would be gone.
A final word on the subject MIKE yes godspeed. The legal system of Florida every time through twelve people of Clearwater floor earlier that so the days, Casey says she's workin for the pie. She's living with this is She described her duties in an interview she gave last year. One of the reasons I have some good jobs because I'm taking everything that that state crises, It's me like my facebook and pictures and all that distorted. I know come through research, people's backgrounds and put everything together in a good way. Or a man. I just got a copy sleepy gonna go good. Why she does it in a good way, we're through me, I in a good way how old would clearly be right now eleven MIKE
Oh no. They asked her the one I'm one of the questions asked or be like and during this final interviews and twenty seventeen that she did that she said that in this she they act like. So what do you think Cayley would be elected, anxious she total fucking bad ass. She listened the classic Rock and talking the boys you fuckin, you could have we been like see it's gonna meet president. Would you little I'm kind of you would also still only be eleven raising herself, yes and while you're fucking this private investigator, who she would ended up anyway. Well technically Tonia Lazzaro there, and then I'm also good to materials are just got out of that. Somehow orderlies, not it is life, is over his life's a logic is life over. I don't like you so like when you watch Casey when you watch toilers hour on the stand when they were talking to him about Casey Anti, like her Behavior, He was relishing here.
Trying to throw down on her grave yeah. I will you know what they I had a listener. Send me a deck s, thee with high school friends with Tony S, sorrow and sent me. The twitter is twitter, account much I'm not gonna follow or don't do don't blow up. I think that's like what an awful but his twitter bio was just. Let me of my life in peace. The guy is easily. He was wrapped daisy. Italy is a horrible person Europe, so many people indoor lies in ruins, so many lives I feel bad for Tony was our because he was a college student he'd been he fill a piece of shit. He Betty feel he wasn't the better. Do you guys you to use a finding defined unites our? It adds dope fighting about outrageous adult pride. I q is China yeah and he wouldn't he don't. We been seen Casey Anthony per like to eat We accept, unlike those bar, is how the public perceives her this is the last word from Casey Anthony
I give a shit even things about you or not, and never will you of myself. I sleep very good at night, she'd have a shared now he's just like care, anything upheaval say I sleep really good at night makes me
go in saying that I get needs, grace get all buttered up, she's still another plant sued everyday, just I just know revolvers and no one room without told mom would deeper and catch up and consume and gain or strengthen. Given back to the Paypal ride there, it is Casey Anthony while a lot lot to that story. Time lag story again there there's a lot that you know we didn't look. We covered all like the main basis, but we and even get to the lot. I think thirty, three million dollar law suit that some crazy Ladys filed against Casey Anthony because we believe the Illuminati was behind the whole thing. You know, but then we're getting a job any Ramsay in her murder by the serb tissues, murder by the black ops government. That's a whole other story. Mother won this dead bunch of you. Do yourself a favor and go watch all of the trial hearings that are on you to enjoy yourself. Listen all the interviews and really
armed just get mad, you know get in origin or up just if you got a kid just hang out with them or if you really are super stressed out. You know I don't know, there's like in parks and shit. There's stuff to do so. Do that is their staff to do do not a bearing. I don't know, no we're, not the one who should be given the child rearing advice here. Go now. You just recommended a theme party. I was Good thinking about this, I'm going through the whole trial and also like, if Wendy, was missing for six days, and I had to go to Jackie in say we're Wendy, it's been got. It's been six days since I've seen my little girl where's, my little girl and Jackie it's with the name. I would gold Liam niece and I would have found I would have gotten to the bottom of the truth and that's just a dog Thank you. So I feel like people should have done a little bit more legwork and try find this little girl. Absolutely right will speak.
The dogs, you can find me Instagram real, hang the dogs with the little last pop casta urged scarves. Is there so cute is very cute. Yes, absolutely What do we want to do here, so we wanted to thank everyone for patriotic, very muddy everybody already in our patriot days for the gray responds Henry, and I had a chance to interview this fellow from loving saucers. What was David organs ways? I am the true so unbelievably interested he claims that he lost his virginity at seventeen to an alien. That's us! So, yes, I believe a man I'm jealous and that interview is available on the picture on for five dollars in up per month. Yet so go check that out and thank you all for that also keep on checking on all the shows you, the European Network, and you know I got a couple of times from people who say they are going through a rough time. You know it's just a weird time to be alive, yeah and so hang in there because
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