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important three we are covered. Whole Bernardo Karla Homolka, so let's just get back into it. So are we just left, Paul Bernardo and Karla Homolka. The year was one thousand nine hundred and ninety and Carla had just begun to participate in Paul's crimes by videotaping one of the most violent of the many rapes. You can As the Scarborough Rapist a you know- and I really you know what I solely blame a lot of this on Christmas day this came from gifts and we're going to talk about the hook? For them, Paul Bernardo have been cleared by the investigators looking into the Scarborough rapist cases after Putnam in the box for just forty five minutes, despite the fact that he was the most likely suspect by far our aid, airs Norway, pile bonobo at aiding the door, then look at his floppy here, Norway, somebody who's errors as flappy, as that has everything to do with Great Britain and pounds. That's all these illegal to jump,

A great Canadian, please work, but if we look at ninety ninety from a cultural, flotation lily pop culture. We see that one thousand nine hundred and ninety was also the year of the vanilla ice top the charts with his one and only hit ice ice. Baby and Renault is number one fan and Canada was undoubtedly Paul Bernardo, don't do that if anyone s eyes baby because they are used to drive and on get obsessed with it pulled. Moreover, no other report as a whole in order, I think, of all of the Veneer ice interpreters, but that instead of fans, because everyone's just trying to figure out what the centre of no ice, what that's nothing's water goes away when it's what they get hot and get us wait snap saloon, but Paul Bernardo captured. the spirit of vanilla ice accurately than anyone else, because they're just sudden back is dress his actions there.

Really makes me think of isn't his name like Robert Winters, rather than Robin Winkle on we'll use ie does. That home renovation show as well, but in the amish show in the end. Also don't forget about the new metal version of ice baby that he didn't like two thousand white eyes baby. I actually enjoy that one you enjoy that, but I was technically built for you. You'll remember, Karla was a big beastie boys so the idea that white guys could have rat careers with only Paul Bernardo Purview, even before vanilla ice came along. It was for all of us, but while the beasties, my have been just a little too good for Paul to emulate. Vanilla ice had just the right amount of blandness or a shallow sociopath like Paul this new hamper of wrappers. He is a man. You see blandness, I say broadening they get on board calamities wraps. Alright, let's face it. Ok somebody's

if there really complicated biological phase? They do? I don't know what they're saying all sorts of gold and happens accords mean a weed which is. I don't even know uneasy about that in these other colleagues are about gambling next, a women and appropriate and full disclosure, not them a love for rice, Nothin beloved for vanilla, another I'd Edwy, because the victim of a studio system that was come, they used him. They abuse when they threw him away much like Milly, vanilla per cent. Reason they were making while we're stumble over there. I thought they were indeed mean all of the bands about like cooking extracts,

Millie, vanilla. I just feel like something that you would put into a cup cupcake to make it really got Sherman vanilla. Obviously you gonna want that if you're making it takes, a metallic daddy was really I'm not getting vaporize by the industry, because they felt that it knows this money created them, prompt them up and then destroyed them, because the into ice destroyed himself. No one million he didn't have another good song, no fuckin movie. Here he had snow and then the other one called hey come day. My hair songwriter that other song, Vienna Hazy, but please buy me. A house knows album now you're thinking about snow, which is another fantastic, o o. We gotta. Do you gotta, move more mobile informer, the less Karla Paul. One I mean that's, acts would Karla became so parliament go and buy the name, young hype, road and cut his heir to look just like Fidel ICE, and he got to work on his debut rap, Album called

thirdly innocent. Sadly, Ernest easy, I crossed yeah. I think I will. We actually heard you crazy now from what we know from Paul's rap. and also for his goal was to wrap about what he knew from his perspective. He knew about being competitor, going to parties picking up girls and love, he knew every there was to know about love. He also whole thing was that you can, I it he had this once from Gordon Gecko up on his work. This guy imagination is reality I would rather hang out with someone who only has scarface propping paraphernalia sisters did someone who loves Gordon Gecko, unworthy, scar, face a little bit of fun with it, but but

That is a view. Then that is interesting again at his side world. Look, I don't know. What's going on there, your love of snow, the hour of you know what I hate. I hate the hate. I see. I see the person hate the hate. We have to stop its I've come to stump up, but sides just what he knew. Paul also wanted to talk about the issues that he, oh, yes, of course it had met. Her power is drive on ice inspired by ice me. I've got to talk about relationships. Breakups, stealin, vandalism and death were cool Nepal, thought of himself as an absolute fuckin, bad ass coups fuckin guide ever come at a Scarborough, but his rhymes.

The risks are fucking, pathetic, so bad he monies will be fuckin. Certain songs with my name is Paul Bernardo and I'm here to say my name is Paul Bernardo and I'm here to say I things in the canadian wait until you start, we are now also. This was at a time period where he was narrowing. His social life down, as will get too was, as one went a little whether any amateur rap is a good way to make sure you get your alone time Pullman order was a guy that he wanted super cool to fifteen year olds because he was going to have sex so as now close to twenty five year old man, you only hanging out with kids like looked up to him and then they're stupid ways right where he went. He bought them booze. Anyone like hang out with them and his whole things that he would like create social like hierarchies with whoever about access to with Nissan

oh good, like who is like an old cook it, and then he also was getting especially close to Tammy Korea from one specific deadly innocent song. Paul wrote from the perspective of a guy fighting back when some other do tried steel in his girlfriend, and it's here that explains the meaning of deadly innocent He wrote quote if he steps on me, because I look non threatening its biggest mistake. It's a case of misjudging or under estimating it's a case of deadly innocence, it does not have its good, but you wrap like these gaps on me cause. I look. Man threaten it as big a mistake in the case of judging or Esther Nope no, it wasn't remedies flow, its fuck. It's got to. God ought really bad luck. He has no idea what he's doing here so is further lyrics here.

guy I'm innocent, but behind this unpack and the latter deadline is so come at me, come at me, I got a nice face. I look like a pretty boy who wanted to come at me: man our best shot, so you would have still your pal you're out of your man, woman me what your beer belly. I need meagre, really tough. I come back. Look like I'm thirteen years old and I'll. Kick your ass, I'll kill your prayer. Then I'm sure your girlfriend and I'll fuck, your wife, that daily innocent, is what like he's sounds like Terry, the no. He does business technically. If Chuckie wraps this, it will be When somebody give me an example of another rad song that use the word pal, I can tell you who, back until now, go into my archive suitors, don't know because you became obsessed. Using the word pal. Once again, he heard it mall street

some say the apparel became we became, everybody actually call Marilla PAL and these lyrics in his wrath journals, it goes on and on like this, for pages. Upon pages some of do rhyme. Ok, at one point I think he's a sudden like drain, your brain and steal your chain. I think that was the best that he did but unfortunately could tell my heel suck your dick and then Robbie. Unfortunately, though, we couldn't find eighty recordings you'll have to imagine Paul's actual flow on your own, which actually pretty ease, to do because if you watch any one of the like the snippets of home tapes because I've been desperately looking for them because I'm a fuckin monster, I'm trying to find as many of the recordings as I can and he is just so unbelievably canadian- it's like he's just so Mc Rick Miranda. Some strange It is certainly not all our Jerry. I want men and mean like imagining that in a rap flow,

I'm so embarrassed from here twenty years in a future, I'm embarrassed displaying? I wished I stop I honestly its second biggest crime will connected Paul's love Wrap are really his love for one wrapper was Paul's love of the Friday. The thirteenth franchise. Ok, make sense, see Paul noticed how samples and beats were, moved in rap songs, other ding, Ding, Ding, Ding, Ding Ding an ivory baby. You know how is a difference were under, but how is it different from under pressure residency like they say it explained, Undine limiting on both sides it's your going, the deed to many dings out of these its gets in under pressure Ding ding Ding Ding, did it ending and an ice baby. It's Ding Ding Ding Ding Ding Ding seek totally different. Why the jug he expects.

At the age when you I remember her, authorities is the first thing, is lousy nice daily they lost literally lifelong, but somehow beat looping get connected. Imports those brain to how Jason Voorhees always came back is the same Jason but slightly different means T. Ninety were already up to eight Friday. The thirteenth movies, at this point Jason when two Manhattan too, to maybe explorer Ratan regime based on Friday, the thirteenth, an rat production techniques, Paul Bernardo, developed what he called his theory of life. This is busy. Theory of life was pretty much just reincarnation without the wheel of karma. Basically, Paul believe that people just came back is more or less themselves again and again.

To live in a different time and place after each go round like how many different remixes of ice. I Spain, are at first album, there's like about that's entirely clear with disbelief, says about Paul Bernardo Pathology, but is sexual crimes or any indication. I think this belief added to his sadistic tendencies, because if this is true, then it means that the damage inflicted on women would be carried over to the next life and the next ad infinitum, no he viewed himself weirdly. There is a side of him that is very almost esoteric because he does believe in this kind of concept. The zodiac brings up actually His letters is idea that when I die that's, why kill people so that my dial have slaves in the afterlife near? He actually talks about this concept quite a

that every single one of these women that he is with he owns and that he has memories of them and that's why he goes, and he is a souvenir, collector and a picture take her in all of these types of things. Actually works into his mouth because he's basically he's like this will live on forever and I get to do this for forever. There's a new. Their piece of media that he was obsessed with, which is this innovation. Will tape called lead the field by Earl Nightingale that actually bought, borrowed money from his friends to purchase like some rare vinyl of it, and it's now on Youtube and Bay Equally, the whole thing is all about like stand up straight Look you're challenges directly in the arts make sure you'd stop a rag and are about like it. So how come you don't really isn't very intense how to get here when they re? He was really into this, like we will kind of bull shit, yeah,

manifesting a reality that which, honestly you know it's weird, though how it comes up goes about. How many times have I talked about. Reality is perception all this type of shit and issue. Sad when somebody is it for highly nefarious ends. Absolutely you gotta have karma you gonna know it say your actions come back. I do moraine, it's a boomerang Nora. On the time the Pablo out, love for vanilla ice was reaching its peak. Key Karla Homolka would commit their first rape and accidental murder together. It is all the more tragic for being Carla's little. Mr, so ninety pawn car, had been relationship for almost two years and Paul began, trying to give its Karla that it was ok for him to sleep with a women. Now there was a bit of groundwork. He laid to do that. So one of Carlos friends found a list that Paul had written for her of how to behave, right, so he was trying to slowly massage her into certain thought processes, but she was already halfway. There

You know for a fact the Bijou stir up, but what The things we because what Carlo we said was. I am highly independent woman and I need someone who can control or me, because I was her thing right. She draws tough to marry, those to which we are, if you like, I was always bored by other men, because I just did whatever I want it or whatever, and they would just be like y ever, but I only wanted to sell and he's had now to whatever right. I am, and I don't even know, how are you I believe your interpretation. I also believe that I'm sticking with dogs- yes, my list for her to keep on her at all times and what the list said was ever let anyone know our relationship is anything but perfect. Don't talk back to Paul always smile when you're with Paul be a perfect girlfriend for Paul. If Paul ass spur drink, bring him and could Lee and happy. Remember, you're, stupid. Remember your ugly! Remember your fat, I dont know why I tell you these things, because you never change

he wrote this thing and she had around its not, and so he was getting her use too. Ruiz, abusive environment and caller was taken to it now now. First, the open relationship wasn't Karla scene, but when Paul suggested a threesome, she got a lot more agreeable. The hedge here was that Paul's main target for this threesome was careless. Fifteen year old, sister Tammy, this wasn't full throttle right, from the beginning, possibly to get Karla used to the idea. Karla and Paul began role playing sexual scenarios in which Paul had sex with Karla, while Karla played and he was ramping up. You have other his physical relationship with Tammy too, because they would have a they would have a habit, which I am I dont think any family member should have, and I'm really you know- I don't know if I came home and she who would come home and often find Tammy in her regular position in which she would sit on Paul slap facing him, though

was the pelvis right and they would laugh and joke about it right about how close they were getting, but also Paul understood. He was creating this division between Tammy and Karla. Carla was getting more and more jealous of Tammy and their relationship as time went and he was stoking these fires on both sides- the basics. Hang cannot be, unlike can you believe, damn he's looking today more time, these fourteen years old, the operative disgusting stuff, it s a great I found it high five, a m and guess what it's gonna get so much fuckin worse, your glue will during these roleplaying scenarios amidst much talk of sneffels and king, because Paul always love Karla to tell him that he was a king over and over in your king you're. The king, baby Bernardo would hold a photo of Tammy, while Carla Blue One Satisfy Paul for a bit. As it always was. He escalated first Karla broke the Blinds and Tommy's bedroom, so pocket peep in video

or undressing thing on how much should Carla's doing. I want to make sure we keep charging. new Horrorless involvement, as we go being like she went really far out of her way to to help in these fantasies, get better next Karla Paul had sex in time he's bed by Karla using Tommy's dildo on herself, because you view I've aren't. I use a network should brush up. Finally, Karla and Paul drug Tammy by crushing volume into our spaghetti once she was passed out, Paul ejaculate it onto the Oh, she was sleeping on them by the way what we said earlier of them in the first episode about, like this being a really fucking guy gross episode, it's gonna be gross If you can hear it said, she's gonna be all did in it's gonna get terrify thick, Only ever come on a pillow and I'm hotel now, just because I'm living there still on the pillow women into orbit

You just like here in the moment, you're lay in the thirty seconds that takes a masturbate in areas like spinners circles. Quite that crazy sort of behaviour, went on for an entire summer and fall made even worse by the fact that Paul Bernardo had moved away from Scarborough and had taken up residence in the Homolka home Gay became the full weak son yep. Eventually, Tammy would do any drinks Paul brought her and her friends because there were always little white flakes floating on top and immediately It's funny been gum dry number have sex. You that's. Why we're I sleep again if this, like the only thing, I know that this is also the nineties. Ninety ninety- and I guess there is a little bit more of their. There is a joking atmosphere about this concept. Like you know how many times people have like isolated clips of bill. Cosby do in bits about,

Irish fly in how good it is to get women all worked up recently failures on his first l. Yes, they around, and it was on a track now, as far as we are Paul was gettin. These drugs Karla had been put in charge of the drug registry at the pet clinic where she worked therefore Paul and Karla, had a mere unlimited access to untraceable sedatives, and they soon began experimenting with Halcyon Eagle eared listeners might have picked up at the mention of Halcyon, because halcyon the same drug that Jeffrey Dahmer used to drug his victims, either in the bars in bath houses where he met them or once he got them back to his apartment. Halcyon has really been that they really hate this advertisements. If they don't want this free advertising, knowing nothing so once suitably drugged, die,

what are the right man in the bath houses, which was an offence to got banned from every bad thousand no Aki, or he would kill them in his apartment, to do what Dahmer Debt Nepal in Karla experimented on Tammy for months with various doses of halcyon and ride around Christmas of ninety ninety they figured they were ready to go all the way, especially when Karla basically gave her little sister to Paul as a Christmas present. This was all set up.

For Christmas time like so. This is it's really. I mean it's fucked. Absolutely. I don't owe wives extra fuck that its at Christmas, but she did position it as a gift, yes discussed in you, but that's also just one point of view. Some people believe that Karla was so abused by Paul that she basically copied his psychopathic tendencies and did whatever she felt. Would please him. Also Paul wouldn't beat her instead and there certainly abusive relationships of this kind, although to a much lesser extent, but to say that Karla was merely a meek. Supplicant who supported Paul sadism is short sighted and again sexist. Yet remember women to be psychopath still yet we want more Europe, but I really is I support and support them,

forward. We run businesses now, don't want to give too much away, but the moment Paul truly started lashing out on Karla years later she cut her losses and through under the bus, the first chance she got and furthermore, as we said, women have just as much of a capacity for violence it isn't, as men to the biggest might have different origins for it, but it depends on what they are getting back and what the feedback, as some people, find it sexually exciting some women. Do I too much railroad women than men, but lotta also find some form of like pragmatic use for it, especially in this example and there have been plenty of women like who did not kill an like, say a, but in a way that, like a sexual sadist, like TED Bundy, killed buddy women who said that they poison their victims, Catherine Night Bia, Catherine Night, but other, but Items that about women who, like just poison their victims and watch them, die and then later described as having an extreme sexual satisfaction watching the lights go out of somebody's

oh yeah. I got excited, but for a primate of a violent sadist. We can look to the oft referenced Ilsa Coke, the so called beast of book unwalled, whose suppose it construction of lampshade made from tattooed skin inspired at gain. Now, there's no evidence that she did that only witnesses, but the fact that she was still a Nazi sensation. Camp commandant, that's gotta count for something and they seem to have an eye from a Cobb talent over there. I don't know what it is all nonsense, but they seem to understand o this bitch is gonna, be brutal, let's higher her the idea is the woman is the cooperative partner of a sexual sadist or someone that actually would give in to their torture came from a report that the

t dot? I road was written by Roy Hazelwood, Jenna Warren and Party that was called the disturbed mind, complaint victims of the sexual sadist and it was actually sent to the canadian police when they were trying to figure out how to prosecute this, get her figure out. What is the mo of the this couple right and also as a part of the reason why they Karla Homolka got her plea deal which were going to cover in more detail next week. They sent them a document. Basically, there really good are like how do we figure this out because their guy mice, because they can't fucking just figure out on their own, they don't have their own fucking investigative unit is doing in this sort of work and it came look it up. I guess I'm the microfiche they get into a comedies got league, I guess you're, the only one who is looking to needs to be in a review on the sea BC by this guy. Basically, this is about women that our report of severe sexual sadist relationships and how the end up cooperating the behaviour of their sexual sadist partners

doing doing crimes alongside of them, but the type of abuse at the women talk about in these. In this report, I am talking about total, full physical, troll of their body right where they were one woman, reported being wrapped in duct tape from head to toe and beaten. Write. Another woman talk about being hung from a pool. and beaten and that, after years of this abuse began to sort of actually too green abuse and walk the abuse and consent to the Stockholm syndrome. Yes, but this has not really I took for me- it does not fit the example of Karla homo. because TAT S what she abuse sure and which he mentally and physically abused. Yes, but she never to this extent and quality who was already per perpetrating some of these crimes when these holes she was already doing the soft roll out of the can

Bobby murders and so big, because of that I dont think it really matches. But it's what they use is a very interesting report. You should read it, but it's fuckin, harrowing and obviously our thoughts go out to anyone who is a victim of any kind of gas, the use and abuse, and we also to remember that we have choices as well, because it's hard it may be difficult, but you still the twisted to not good the path of a Karla Ronald Reagan. Tammy, I think, Karla Homolka weathered the abuse, because the sexual charge she got from participating in Paul's crimes. It was in essence worth it worthy abuse and tell it wasn't I'm just say. This relationship seems a little toxic. Why don't? I am not Doktor Phil or any kind of doktor, don't just nor the doktor fail now in Paul finally decided.

a rape Tammy Homolka August when they were ready to do so. It took a massive amount of premeditation and planning and it was Karla who supplied the drugs to make this plan a reality. Not a house yawn work, just fine for causes some pass out, but Paul Karla, wanted something to make sure that Tammy would not only not up in the middle of it, but also Remember anything that happened. That was key to the whole plan. So right around Christmas and one thousand nine hundred and ninety Carla pocketed a bottle of an inhalant anesthetic called halothane from her job at the Martindale Animal clinic. The drug was used. date, animals when it was surgery time and since how a thing was unregulated, Karla could steal as much as she wanted who are on that same time, p. All bought himself, a new Sony, video camcorder, because while he incarnate,

done a few videos in the past. Paul wanted to make sure he got a high quality footage of the rape. Both he and Karla were about to commit With Carlos sister, it's really weird how it all became super powered by the purchase of this camera by God. I made the joke about the idea of this being to blame on Christmas presents. Mary was soon ass. He got this equipment a kind of went law because he'd he was obsessed, the video camera, like one thing that will come to light when they are investigating, after everything is discovered, the hours and hours and hours of footage put together and not just of crimes of everything, I guess it's like all my family had one of the big heavy one skills, big crazy video cameras did like using. I used it for sketchy amity. It's like that. I'm not asked that it was a tool that was used, but we re not like obsessed

light and they drink water to us like that, since you purchase something kind of similar. So on Christmas day, every at the Homolka House was drinking and that's when Paul in Karla Lace, Tommy's daiquiri, with crushed halcyon, now was first orders. Why are we giving so many drinks to a fifteen year old kid? Likewise, everybody just so chill with this shit. It's Christmas time it's there's nothing wrong with have a drink with the family around Christmas time. Yet again, israeli onwards drugging you, never the media and also your report of its Babby yeah. We now have a good kid gulags nuggets. They all yeah. It's Christmas. You go ahead, but I guess because my dad was an alcoholics. Booze was never like fond in our house to different thing. similar wine, cooler ones with the quartet's pretty good thing. I guess, and since Christmas was a festive time Paul, brought out his new camera and started Guph in around first he sang Eyesight Bay, for the camera in its entirety. It's not

close drive, because what you do it's not even any probably in a manner that was serious enough to make everyone uncomfortable yelling sweating through shirt breakdown? They answered shut me all, that's great, Paul, better, Jose they better be careful. It's gonna do of renovation on the home agree very worst, Lincoln Man Winkle, O Galvin Winkle we ever leak, then, since it was ninety ninety paw. Karla in Tammy took turns doing the extreme close up that from wanes world Chris Paul in Tammy were big Comedy, fan GM and never miss S. Absence now now opened and Tammy Anne and Karla would write to her favorite things in a world where the songs patients by in rows on a Saturday night life. Ok, That's your favorite things. Hoagie paper thinks

it's ok that medicines are in halcyon. That's enough! nowhere Tammy. She recognized that something was wrong in she announced to a room full of people I quote these guys are trying to poison me maybe I was just too drunk or they just didn't care, because nobody reacted at all or even asked hammy what she meant when she said these guys are trying to poison me you're crazy. Tell me what is it some guy not poison pill in it, and it was. It wasn't even like all correct, Tammy you're crazy. It was a complete. No cell, nuff nothin and tell me how to write to feel ill, because Pollen Karla had given her ten halcyon. Build as miser grants each, but I suppose she built up a sort of tolerance, because Poland Karla had been giving her pills for months in anticipation of this night,

Finally, Paul Karla and Tammy sat down and watched and exorcist rip off called LISA and the devil that featured Tele survive. Lady knollys and make it a second appearance here. Unless Pakistan left in less than a year well go also, you can get. The bomb some letters he hasn't. He is dead. so while they were watching this flick, Tammy passed out and to bolster the argument that all. It did indeed give commie as a present they later out in front of the Christmas tree before they began so gross. Not Tammy was indeed out like a light, but Karla and Paul didn't want to take any chances to me

sure, Tammy, didn't wake up, Karla, held a rag soaked in hollow thing. Over her sisters, mouth and after Poland Karla both got undressed Paul began, raping Tammy, eventually Karla got involved, Paul pushed Carla's head between her unconscious sisters, legs and Karla performed Colonel Lingus on her own sister, all well, Tammy was menstruating, but but its round this time the Tammy face turned blue, since she was so deep into an unconscious state. Her now I could fall in in such a way that our air passages have been closed off then, when she suddenly regurgitated is people often do when they're on these drugs, the vomit filled her lungs and Paul, and Carla weren't able to clear the way for her to take a breath. Terrified, Carla and Paul got dressed and drag Tammy to her room where they dressed her as well

and his Paul did mouth to Mouth Karla called nine one. One implored the remaining healthy down the drain before emergency crews arrive in this case is shows the fact that planning went into this in planning, went in to the cover up where this was not like a passion and the moment they have been building up for months and then, when it all went down, the immediately knew we have to clean up all the evidence. We have to get our story straight and both of them jumped into it they were ready to go with new stories that were Let us say no, Ryan Styles level of everyone. My guess is thank you to bring him back up because they are just both so stupid. Did they could not figure? Also a poet put it. They were hammered as well. Give up the whole point of this is that Tammy survived. That's the all the

finding was that they could do this. She wouldn't remember it and they wouldn't get caught. Killing was not was not in any way a part of their plan cause killing us how you got caught. Yep Tammy was rushed to the hospital, but the constable who showed with the ambulance. Immediately read the scene wrong, he assumed that they all been quote free basin. ok, freeways, ok, free basin, cocaine. I guess he heard at a seminar, something you guys. Can I blame you down. I think we're going to convert even more next episode, because it's the canadian sense of innocence is also getting them fucking in trouble, because this is not freedom.

But it's really you build head would mean that there were all very away. It doesn't make any sense. It just cite saying buzzwords you heard when I heard about a guy II was due in free basin, and next thing you know he became the Batman Bill Independent when like lightning real, but these guys all members in their speeches, hurdles rings and then they just make it up to get the job over. What it's Christmas Zog is full cocaine, is, as I say that about that, actually might be what the s ok and non critically. I mean it's not just laziness. Also being naive, guenaud others I would like not have like I'm an american carp shows up, looks at the senior. Obviously, this girl get drugged. Obviously there on some kind of fuckin served on some kind of sedative here, and all this canadian cup seizes drugs there. This looks like maybe drunk. Probably cocaine got any call cash nights. The most illegal album with What is it? What is free bazin? Cocaine owes a different than doing go. Get you smoke smoke in. It

yeah. Just super Hymen apparently spoken great up up up very carefully to get you testers in your crackers out there I ve been actually thinking about, because I need I need a new pre work out free basin, really get you in the mind, said to do some pilot on ass, a great idea. Nepal and Carlo gotten stories straight by the time official showed up and data cops. Hey. We ve been watching these in the devil. Tammy start a complainant, blurred vision, we all fell asleep and then we were all woken up when Tammy start gagging. That's when we called no mom on that when the fuckin cops came, that's pause, fast forward motive. That's it so, basically, we went to sleep time travelled more growth in our innovative, robotic arm in arm gobs. You like your bad guys, all sorts of Amazon we're vertically average. Almost Christmas time when Justice Carlin Paul were told this story, a call came from the hospital to tell the family. The Tammy had died now Paul's reaction that this

what is interesting because it's hard to tell whether he was being performative or genuine I don't think you knows, honestly, I don't think he's fucking knows what's our performance and what he actually feels in any way shape or form, because he's a fully constructed personality to bury to current, very possible soon Paul heard the news see bang the back of his head against the wall, Sir, oh now now, and then he started Poland and his hair again, scream, and no no knows reaction could be one of two things Palm might have been put on a show for the cops to throw them off his trail, but I the more likely reason behind the rip. His reaction was pissed off at a rape had turned into the much stick. Your crime of me,

I will also positive third way, the third way by Henry Supremacy, which are not, you think, possibly be real witches. He was attached to tear me really he did not seem like emotionally, probably also attached to his freedom. That's what I need the absolutely, but I he's attached to her like someone is attached to a very nice pair of shoes. Were he looked at Tammy as an object that belong to him and he had toll ownership of. I think there was that he was partially mad because in his mind, Karla Fucked was supposed to know how many drugs and we're supposed be able to give Tammy so not that so that you wouldn't I so that I could do this again, an abyss. Arrangement could happen again Tommy belong to me tell me, is not supposed to be dead. It's like Freddy versus Jason, when Jason gets Freddy's kill in that breaks up their relation breaks up a relationship when she was opposed to tell me, which must remain his life

and he was mad that he lost his network port Emmy, yes, but to yet another case of glaring, almost criminal incompetence, Paul, didn't you to worry about this murder any more than he needed to worry about the Scarborough rapes. So, even though Tammy had bright red chemical burns, her face from the hollow vain and even though her body was obviously I looked up from being dragged around the house. Police had no follow up question for while they they told the police. Don't you know the first rule of fuck him we must move role will actually do should not must ask. Why did it not to be rolled into the s? Hand depends on. The game depends on what is going on the green list. Plaything game called murder up. What are we just yes and our way into finding the culprit? Singular. That's very scary. Because I'm driving away in murders how it always ends up these guys, call the police that wind

when they discover Tammy they had dragged you're off the couch to do CPR, and so they said that, burns in her face will rub burns from them in her. So then that would really Gerais curse the police down. Yes, these believed that if your sister and your sister in law basically was dying, that new would liberal rather and drag her face, verse into the middle of loving are black wheelbarrow. You don't know that anyone who, with her face down on the ground, it is surely it oh said, might understand, cops not pressing a family during obvious time of intense grief, but there were other chances to notice these clues. When the coroner took a look at the body that night, the chemical burns and drag marks were ignored again, reason it was Christmas time yeah and the coroner had been drinking

yeah yeah, I got mine by narrow gay. I got cranberry Jews and organ in cranberry sauce turn it into Cranberry Josie inside my goddamn house. Right now you know I had nine and dogs and administrative here, but I am a police officers or I'm gonna put. You are nourished so instead of doing spoken job, he ruled the death as accidental but suspicious our putting our listen now, you're always operate ever know. What to do on board. I never mystery burned I agree very suspicious

because how many times you should really only touch me to share Mr Michel this afternoon, skirt rain, scenery moving the dog eight years have not also have never seen the dog figured out again on the counter, but even that is a business prison. Where are you? Are you mean using a second simply islet course right, elderly near drunken? Technically, it's insulted what you're doing or seeing eye seventy tremors. You, Sir said earlier Tolliver face no issues at Christmas incident. Coroner not good. Although Karla acted, oddly at her sisters funeral. She was constantly messing with the corpses hair, strengthening its clothes You really seem all that shattered about Tommy's, Dep Paul was also fidgetting with the court. both of them were like haunting. The head is open, wake re, which also no one was into no one wanted to open gas so when they showed up because they did the make up of the could, but her face was all worked right like front machine

chemical burns all of her fucking face. So no one wanted to say anything again, very polite and then Paul and Karla we're just posted up next to the fuckin casket been like does you look nice because the issue of nice, I know only playing with her arms and shit and put a stop in the casket fucking around with it. I do understand it's a person and everybody grieve different ways, many things, these guys worked business about suspicious. Thank you thank honor. So when the Homolka took a trip about two weeks later, take their mind up, the tragedy Karla stayed at home with Paul, but instead of grieving Paul incur I figured the best way to lift their spirits would be to commit another rape, and since Carlos family was gone, they could do it at home. these two weeks after ten jeez they kidnapped girl brought her back. The Homolka home and raped her and Carla's bedroom. Then they

or go on, a deserted, robe neared like Gibson. Now, no idea who this girl is but appalling, Karla disgustingly gave her the pet name January girl very Bt K. It is very little airy. Bt can cause, they got very morbid together. I mean obviously very morbid, but they they loved this process together, because Karla also view this as a way to changed she was so up pause ass right. I do believe that Paul was the driving force and more in Karla within decide car right in our work together, and they did it, but the whole thing was about piecing appeasing Paul and that the whole tenor of the thing was about making sure Paul happy, and so she was willing to do all of this shit and go along with it, but there is also this incident here where apparently theirs video, which I didn't see of Paul punching himself in the face being like

child their share. Both poles don't work with Tammy, that's how this was up. Also work with Tammy like him scream and about how Karla fucked it up and spigot disgusting. Soon after Tommy's death, all in Karla began making sex tapes real, having Tommy's rape in one strong and narrowly long. Video Carla's said that she loved it when Paul factor Little sister, all well. She paid tribute to see since there is transcript. Of that it is not just does recognise. Class has gotten business aid. This is there a transcript of the videos that this comes from now it's also in this video that Karla basically comes up with a victim profile for future rapes. They would do together like the one they did with Tammy Carlos said that the victims should be thirteen, and that Paul should quote in this. Is

I quote: break their highlands with Snuffled, soon got itself like the worst episode of the territories. I've ever creepy early Karla also said freely, and without prompting that these victims, where their children and that she thought that Paul should make them quote even more hours and when Paul asked when she came up with that idea, she said just now again? It's weird cause. He believed in this, like he was up his own ass right. This is a form this form of like narcissism, that is clinical were he did in his mind, he thought when I create these memories. They exist in separately in my mind as souls, and then I'm cool, I'm collecting people, like what we are doing here is collecting these

river memories that we're gonna use river, which is above the we're, gonna, live off of sexually forever and then we're going to videotape the whole thing to keep adding to the permanence of the memories, later in the video Karla pulled out a pair of Tammy Underwear and Paul rubbed it all over his body when they finally had sex Karla told them that she wanted him to rape. Fifty more girls, fifty more I, but only in the summer, because your time is too hard for some like that because of the ice, I spent a very true all right, so it's a summertime fang, even though generous but that was there last one after that was because of tat very night daddy one down, but do not do not winner as January's fine. It's when February the really start you gotta hibernate for eleven years, actually add wake me up. Winds of timber comes that allows that's all they got swayed mellow allotted familiar has seven million something it's one September ends: that's oh yeah. I'm in Greece

let's even ten months. That is a long time, usually preferring to October. That's depression, then, as a finale. The video cuts and restart in time he's bedroom where Karla is wearing Tommy's clothes and holding a portrait of her sister over her face Karla than Folliot all in the video ends, it's just so evil and scary. Why you like it you know, I'd use, scary casino, the support that is just so scary, the idea of like because marriages weirdos if you do get Deville remarried, no, not yet, but they move spiritually. They were as far as they were concerned, and it is weird how like you get to these games with something I got is just so scary. They become dismissed. The two halves.

of one month. I think most people don't get to those air quotes games, as most people don't have. No, no. They, like hey onto you, wanna, take their picture of your sister. Put it on your face us and then blow me. No, I ain't airing where we are obviously walk out door. Munich punch the felon Lee. It's a lot. Ask you gonna build up. I don't think anyone should ever asked that now, in the middle of all this horror and perversion, Paul incur

we're still plan in a wedding. It's a well. How can burn replacing small yeah buddy you're doing all this shit so they're, like literally like all? How do we go out there and commit another horrible horrible crime? And what do you think about the napkins per bodies has what I'm talking about man reminded God, I'm so sick. This episode is discussed dignity. Our mental innovation that happens here is some of the wildest shit I've ever seen, not only that we had an employment with the wedding planner at eleven. A m has my own forgot that, because, like we see this a lot and a lot of serial killers, a lot of guys where they always kind of compartmentalize, they live one life they do and other run. They know you kind of sea, the sinister kind of poor into one and then the other thing in all kind of poisons each up lecture. The videotape from their wedding is just it's so atrocious,

also its everybody. Acting like nothing's wrong. Everybody has no only normal one another. Obviously we never once more in the death of Tammy, but do people know that Karla and Paul or Fucking Psycho, They know that you'll be out. They do. They know a world the Hamas and started up the Hamas as its nipped out the Paul was a monster of some kind. They don't know that he in Karla had killed Tammy I also thought it was fucking weird how both Paul and especially Carlo, were insisting that the wedding go on despite Tammy's death Tammy died in Smith, no, ignoring our weapons in June gonna be happening in June. Gotta happened in June, like six months later letter that Carlo wrote to her friend about planning of the wedding. This is the week after Tammy died. I thought my pet it's been so stupid,

think of them themselves. My father doesn't even want is to have a weight more. He thinks we should just corner City hall, screw that we're having good time, everyone says, sit at home and be miserable haze. Welcome to our eyes. Welcome to our door. I as an worked accept our one day since Tammy died, he's while a one in his own misery. In fact in may I add, sounds awful on paper. But I know you see what I'm saying we always shared last year right that I always said last autumn, I said here she said that you had. I thought you wouldn't have higher screen to see her slowly becoming a leper gun, jamming, always nice you're right. You wanted a far screen parties right for her sixtyth birthday. Now my dad keep saying I would have bought it, for I would about it for a revised only known. Well, that's bull if he really felt like that he be paying for my wedding, because I could do because I could die tomorrow or next

you're or whatever he's such a liar. Oh no Karla, it just seems, like your priorities, might be a little bit wrong. She's a cycle Becky here I mean that that, but the family just kind of suggested, like hey, do you think? Maybe Paul should move out for a little while I also had a very good idea for we he'll Carlos flipped out, took it as a personal attack. How dare you do this, you know that we have to be together. Sober in January, but a month after Tammy died, Karla Paul, moved out and ring a house in the port dollhouse Neighbourhood of Saint Catherine and I fuckin look that up. If you say that I'm fuckin pronounced or doll Aussee wrong, I mean to say I looked it up and do my fuckin basic god dammit. I can look up every single fucking word that I say an entire goddamn fucking episode, every single oil Duval area, so many hours terrio we rarely with this man. That's like I think. Maybe I like it. I get an orchestra gave over there,

will the reason why they move Deport Doll. Housing was because Carla's had Toronto had too many emigrants. Yes, she was also a racist and you are also right, o had too many immigrants of coral in Paul young God, but the creation of their new house was more about Paul side hustle than proximity to Carlos family because they needed hey for their own place in because Saint Catherine was near, the border crossing at Niagara falls. Paul went full time as a cigarette smuggler. so cool. What if I did not, unlike I mean they're league taken, but over the border I dont know I mean, let's just it's just that legal thing. Show it doesn't really. Are you don't be smuggled? I can get a dude american cigarettes are rad, maybe in cigarette sock? No, you know more about the amount of data was Canadian coming to America, which ended he smuggling canadian cigarettes to America do not remember buying the fucking. When you get bootleg cigarettes are the boat egg is here in New York. They sometimes

the canadian stamp on him. Sometimes it's in Russia or member, my father, get in the romanian Marlborough lights ordered from some website. I got on line that we're all like who collect more scorched, feel with fiberglass, ensure Paul would do two to three trips a day over border smuggling canadian cigarettes in the door panels of his gold Nissan two. Forty. As Ex, can you please a least go me too authority S, exquisite didn't have enough money to purchase it, oh my god didn't anyone notice. I guess he was going through a border that deliver security check. But at some point you're, like you, keep on you, you come the addresses, the Roman forth, a lot coming back a lot on a good day. He could stuff sixty cartons of cigarettes and six priorities in the doors and the speakers, I don't know who he is bootlegging. Forties too, though you can afford easier. Fucking

its common frightening out. Isn't gonna, hey islands like Hildred is, I think a lot of this was to literally kids look even further. All this stuff is he deliberate overstep the Heath Cliff It is literally, this is what bad cats, what an order I also trash can fail, but fish skeletons gonna hold onto our newspapers. For these kids. You sleep on some page boy at this guy is such a wanna. Be much like vanilla ice, isn't he didn't you soon wholesale to somebody I mean this. This is the most trailer park, boys that he could possibly be. This is trailer parks boys, this trailer park, poison, hell yeah dad is Emmy to hide all these smokes Paul stuffed Carla's used black pantyhose around the panel's. So if the customs, appeared in they see nothing, but black Yammy X, heated there be like you can go ahead and check if you want go ahead. We'll take a look at that speakers then, and since the custom agents were just as turned

Paul is the police were the only time he ever came close to getting caught was when he trusted a friend to do the run back I wouldn't smooth as it was Paul, was clearing fifteen thousand dollars a month, smuggling smokes when he was at the top of his game, with all this money coming in Paul and Karla could stay on track for their upcoming June wedding. As far as wedding gift went Karla. Had very specific and very rude instructions. She wrote the only thing we really need. Our land are one adopts faster to China. Three. You want the country of China, if you're being generous, three crystal bore- we really don't even anything to bless. You know how picky we are and ask for women gives peace trading. Let people know that we want money, is used,

it. They say things like or we don't believe in given money you tell them to go, take a fly. In fact, What money? Because Paul said, if I and fifty dollars a plate. I expect to get a hundred dollars per person, my goal for this when fifty grand he wanted enshrined This man is the dumbest mother, Fucker. I've ever heard he thought he was going to make money out of his way. This is what think it'll do weddings for, though, did like we're. We're of the generation doesn't really do gifts, but most people do yet they don't do it to make money off of the wedding surprised, there's, no way it doesn't work that way whether ones can be corrupt, though our Carlo making her demands Paul. came more invested in his music career, telling people that he specifically wanted to be. The next big white wrapper, like vanilla ice. Even though vanilla star was paid in fact, That is why your me,

I'm sorry, I know Uncle Gregor these around this time was sniffing around some gas pumps were now get rain, ready to wrap. No uncle crap No ever last night I'm sure how aims not calling him up ever last technically up like a ever last or ever clear Everley. Now I realize you know that guy Zack I, rather than oh yeah, smugness no gas greens. Now he was using ascertain. He was useful. Of course, moving away from Scarborough had done nothing stop Paul from raping women out in the open, just like he done in Scarborough, but an end, police near the border, where no more adept at catching him than detective Erwin was in Scarborough. In fact, as far as active Erwin, was concerned, he was thinking Christ but it was all over because it is all over workers, but Paul move Scarborough since then ended. So you know Conor wrapped itself up, didn't it,

it really did isn't he's only just sat there be like well that's over its need. I want everybody to stop it. Gonna police work doesn't take action, become unemployed, people are just afraid of the police and eventually ones are done with their little crimes. They stop is Actionism zounds almost like when we're not work, and we are working so paul- didn't slowed in any way, and neither did Carla for a wedding gift, Karla decided to get Paul. Another Tammy, put it in. She remembered a former number one pets in her coworker known only as Jane, who was fifteen and just happened to look a lot like Tammy Karla, believe Tammy had died because they given her drugs on a full stomach. I e the food reacted with the sedatives and caused her to vomit, which is why it's a bad idea.

Patients to eat anything prior to a surgery. Anaesthetic is end and food dont Maxwell so with Jane, Karla and all made sure that she had an empty stomach before she came over to the house and on June seventh, Karla invited her over to watch ghost, so the grooming could begin. I wonder how many different assaults happened because one had a pottery wheel in their home during this time period We have this time it was more about being able to rent ghost. I remember ninety ninety one, it was impossible to find them movie at the videos. Wispy was loved, Ladys got aroused by it in this. They did not a guy was dead so that initiative to deal with them

and he would make them that's nice little. If we could move that the coin up, he could find your clear exactly what I'm gonna do not envisage Jane, did get sick from being drugged, but she didn't die. In fact she returned, although her mother was a bit curious as to why to people on the twenties one two so badly, hang out with a fifteen year old girl who has always like its flag like hey. Why are we doing this? Hey? Why don't you don't do that? Thirty one! Twenty five shore, forty five, thirty, five, fantastic! Twenty five fifteen is massive. Ninety five, fifty nine they better be an apprentice. They better be your child, but a second is it, though the dosage you been adjusted correctly and using the video camera Paul in car reenacted the same sex play they done with TAT just without the death at the end, honey honey. Did you

Did you mail in the funniest video to America's? Please don't know you definitely address knowledge, and here we need a second debts me getting hit me. That's not what we say, and meanwhile just saga and like everyone here, America's full used. A video calls. This is from came up. We can show that they would alone. There were no one Unfortunately, the same guy is it. The instant area could not be said about fourteen Old Leslie, my happy about a week today, abuse Jane for the first time, Paul happened upon Leslie, a troubled teen and frequent runaway. Her story makes me. Obviously, it is sad about what happened to her, but it also just this thing to which her, because she was known ass, like a partying kid, LEO were like all she's. Oh, she cried. I asked for this, which is even worse soon

June. Nineteen. Ninety one Paul's confidence was at its highest level. He'd me down from the vanilla ice, look and was now affecting a baywatch style. Athletic well muzzled! and complete with a head of feathered, blonde hair buzzed the site for you, because you will you also. You only worked out his top half because he said work in your legs is gay. I met him in this moonies. Murmurs monies are nearly all do in this bit and the other two like Paul could like sort of pull it off. The other two who were essentially itches Dan, accurate and John Candy? If you put them in these looks right leg, and so it's him with these his two fuckin goons. Why going around in slow motion actin like David Hassle, harsh who, when they are just the biggest fuckin dull misdoings,

in Canada, the beach and three thousand miles south up. Remember they went to flirt. They lay London only for Lothar nail their big port Lauderdale people, and so, when Paul happened upon Leslie. My happy one summer night after she'd, been locked out of her house. Paul had no trouble convincing her to get in his car This is a thing. A detail I want to bring up is a warning to all parents. This was done because the mother gave her an ultimatum saying well, if you're late, one more time, a lock the door so that you can't get it out so Leslie Massey was coming home late. She had locked where's the house so that she couldn't get back in and then Lemme, happy sitting there she's all alone doesn't know what to do. She tries to call a friend to go. Some other place can get there she's. Having should hang us out of a pay phone here comes to add to these people very good, looking normal, caught him quote: Guy Paul Bernard

rolling up in his fancy sports car being like want. You come with me, offering a cigarette. Yes, ass, soon ass, she was inside the car, Paul pulled a knife and made her cover her head with a red sweater, while he drove her to his in Carla's home in its here that we once again move into gold star territory we ve been there. Are they we weren't winner network and continue to be ok, double dip? They arrived together at three p m after Karla, had already gone to bed when they arrived Karla, woke up to watch the beginnings of Paul's abuse and since I suppose she just wasn't up for it that night, she left and went back to bed when Paul began videotaping Leslie, while she urinate it, but when Carlos up again after Paul, had been raping this young girl all night. She was angry or horrified for the obvious reasons. Instead, she was pissed that Paul had used her good champagne flutes, because Paul had been feeding Leslie Champagne, all night,

to facilitate more urination, and that is not an exaggeration. I watched the footage of interrogation like when she first came in to give her statement, and that is the main contention, point that she brings up of in the middle of this investigation, she's like we even even had no chance to use those floats on our all. Those are for our honeymoon there is a lot of other rigorous Skinner S, yet not the dishes on think laughter. She woke up. She bypass the horror and walked. dog a rottweiler named buddy when she came back home, and read the newly released book american Psycho, all while Paul continued, torturing Leslie my happy throughout the day and night to you so bored by it. Yeah now, Leslie mother called the police that morning when her daughter went didn't show up, but since cops had gotten calls about them a happy kid before and since they picked her up a timer too for drinking

they just ignored the report completely. Meanwhile, once Karla was done, reading she joined on the rape, as it was shown on video in court, Karla made Leslie give Paul a rim job while Karla gave him a hand job all while they listen to see for man by Aryan. No. According to what Karla later told police Bernardo, supposedly said after midnight that night that they had to kill Leslie because they gone. far, and there was no way they were getting away with this one. If they letter live, Homolka claim that they gave Leslie to sleeping pills and watched her pass out than Bernardo took some electrical cord wrapped it around Leslie Neck and pulled until died. Blood started coming out of her nose, nears o horrible horrible the horrible this also. It is really interesting that you will talk about the book when you brought up.

episode about the idea of them being sexual sadist that end up in murder is really interesting, because they, if they don't like dealing with the body at all, they don't, any pleasure with dealing with the body. They have to its immediately become a hassle like we're there like are now what the fuck did we do, but Carla also claim the Paul had beaten Leslie to a pulp over the course of the two days they kept her imprisoned at their house, but Carla's version of events gets a little wobbly. When you look at the forensics, the post mortem didn't indicate any of the usual signs of strangulation, although to be fair future events would make this difficult to ascertain, but regardless the path allergist said that more happy was not beaten. The only thing coming close to that sort of physical violence was to equal, distant asymmetry,

we'll subcutaneous bruises on either side of her back, which imply that some one had been kneeling forcefully. No will never know just how behalf he died. But what we do know is that Carla's parents came To the Bernardo home, the evening after the murder, while body was still in the house. Yeah man, the biscuits wooingly funding, must be clear in our day are like being descended into full mad. Together with the new surfaced level, is so like squeak queen, so we're because the one thing that anybody knew about them was that Karla kept a teddy and a dog collar up in her room right. The chief, like intimated all time you like, Paul likes it rough. I know a thing that they all just kind of thought, though that was it and then, when Karla started, started telling friends, they did a lot of anal sex, write her friends then said: oh, you guys are crazy beds. He knew nothing of whatever gets on.

There were some people that word do would notice like she had bruises sometime. Yes like that, but it wasn't anything. It was Certainly wasn't this level. No one even came close to think it was to this level for what the is remembered about that evening. The dinner is normal and all Paul talked about with setting up a sound studio in service of is non existent wrap career. That is still very soon. This dream, that's thing that he talks about all time. I mean you know: I'm gonna be the next. Whether I want you to meet with my lyrics new should even see me dad. Want to see that this. May I listen. I learned is new song other day. It's called the macaroni and there they do also urgently another Macarena. I think that Spanish were macaroni guy over their hands, so fast easy, and it is almost as if there's no way the entire country in the world could do this. Dunaway guide them through the lyrics. So after dinner,

Bernardo Homolka had to decide what they were going to do with the body in the basement. They decided on a fairly creative if ultimately unsuccessful technique involving up Our saw. An eleven bags of concrete TB Cheese, it was oh creative. It was stupid, I think, when they try to really thought about it to art- and there are both very stupid like I could Forget that gets one thing. I also want our audience remember. All of this should happen. because the canadian police couldn't fucking fine there ass with a fucking flashlight during this yes, you have used, you guys are not criminal. Masterminds obey you hugging, Scarborough rape is keeping you with Scarborough rape, as he did without a mask, and many many people try to stop him and he couldn't and the police couldn't do this is also another one of those building. I wouldn't do it. They will not forget our business, but you never know man I'll tell you one thing. Things have gone wrong when you have to say what

Gonna do to get rid of that body in the basement. That is, a race is a sign. You have done something that is not a cure Nobody no grown that night, Pauling Karla taped at the windows in their basement and fashioned a tent with the top to catch any blood. Spatter. Then, according to call a story, Bernardo used, a power saw with the seven inch blade to cut Leslie. My happiest he into ten pieces now it is entirely possible that Paul was only one who did all the cutting, but If you remember, Karla, was involved in the surgeries and autopsies of animals at the Martindale Animal Clinic, and she just love to say the animals were just humans, when it came to cutting them up as one of our little. The edgy shit that you like this truly Carlo wish. You'd come out. You like histories peace, appraise how quickly the human body can cover part. Have you got a power? It's all our lot. We're trying to sell parakeets gave. Therefore it is.

Logical to assume that Karla had quite a bit of input on the desk. permit, even if she didn't do the cutting itself, Give her an executive producer, credit I would put Paul Bernardo was led and writer and that she was she came in. She gave him a guidance because pulls off in more on near. He had no clue how to do this. It there's nothing impulse history, sick to suggest that he had the knowledge to do something like this on its own at all, after each piece was cut away, arms legs hands feet in Head Carlo washed, each piece clean and put them in separate plastic bags. Once the job was done, the parts were carried to a route seller where they were stored overnight, to dispose of the bloody tarps Karla freely offered. The locked bio hazard dumpster behind the Martindale Animal Clinic cause a blood cover tarp in that dumpster wouldn't really raise a lot, a red flags,

John did and now you ve got that's the road fuckin targets, they kill allow animal spike. Yes, they do, they shouldn't be killing animals, they knew I mean that I will have died or do they happened to die in there, but the only kill them and also what you'd be weird if they found a giant tarp behind them, a bad buddy, you're you're just drive the dumpster you they get back. For I don't know, I'm not talking about what Mr Man, I'm not a dancer man. They have nothing to do with its people back Thursdays and material no lie not avert. Dumpster man, it's along main amount or what the data is. Absolutely you gotta get the job over with throw the carpenter in the back and let's go after disposing of the tarps. It was then time to get the cement while Karla was at work. Paul went to restore called Beaver, lumber and tat the clerks that he was building,

dad I'm building a God damn deck, and I need some goddamn concrete. Your fuckin beavers building its all thing, don't tell me how to build a concrete death executive doesn't exist, but I'm sure you would you're trying to trick me into something. I told him if you really want to do the job right now. Of course, the court itself powers he'd need twenty two sixty pound bags of concrete six sixty pound bags sixty pounds each twenty two bags is once he was back in the basement. He mixed the concrete and constructed cement boxes between Monday morning and Wednesday. Eve two probably the hardest, never worked in a shitty little light on his ignobly with a plan was due in case each body, part in concrete paint, the concrete block black and toss each one until late, Gibbs, where they would presumably never be seen again when that just preserve the body part

now just doesn't work going either way. The plan didn't work. Ok, but as it turned out, the job didn't take all twenty two bags concrete, so Paul returned the remaining twelve bags to ever lumber and made a big stink about the clerk, overestimating his needs key current eight. He walked on oil. Tat have been your or sold me, Congo, my God, I knew tat. I think I may tell me how much and I agreed idea I'll, tell ya much concrete, I'm bringing back like all body wore their body, one order wars, as there were already spent at concrete money, and by and more would cancel or showing Vancouver up. Just you. Ok, we love the kind of before they dispose of the blocks Pollen Karla had fine, just the right dumping spot at late Gibson, they draw

but one night with first the power saw the cardboard used to catch all the extra blood during the dismemberment and the empty concrete bags. The was the first thing to task. Tsar was gummed up with tissue and blood, how useless each smash it up with a hammer area in the EU and Jordan imaginable. Amory just got angry unjust, funked it in the fuckin water networks you next, they burn the cardboard and the empty cement bags then, the commemorated the occasion by having sex on the spot where they would dump the body of Leslie me happy again. open very, very, very stupid, because if anybody came by you, while you were having sex Ivan spot where you're covered and blood, while all the evidence everywhere, what do we do? here. I know it's golf time, but honestly, like Google Chrome, think about being a criminal, Forza, Polwarth Income, no they weren't, and this is gonna, be fuck up after fuck up after fuck up on this and none of the matter, that's the most insane thing. None of their fuck ups matter, not a single one

Paul was able to handle the individual body parts, but the block containing the torso wade over two hundred pounds Zog is even think about how you concrete ways It weighs a lot. The whole torso in a thing, a concrete, it was it. This is all so stupid when he incarnate we're carrying up the stairs together. They dropped the block, cracked and it began leaking fluid. Thank you quickly, Bernardo wrapped, the leaky part in a garbage bag that really gotta do here that I analyse pointing out a wrap it up here through in the car and drove to the lake. Now the visual body, parts were fine to toss into the spot later originally picked out, but the torso block was again to large, so they drove it to another spot and pushed off a bridge. Only

with this is that, since it was a nighttime disposal, Paul in Karla, didn't notice. The bridge piling below the block therefore hit the structure and cracked open leaving also to freely float away. All the workers guy all their bullshit is gone, Even torso, blockhead cracked on the piling Leslie these body still would have been discovered, see. Carlin Paul's plan wasn't is clever. They thought it was. You saying goes like Gibson was a, damned lake- the Damas mother, fucking piece, o koyo. So do the water rose and fell. You know like with on a regular basis. Therefore, the blocks were discovered. Two weeks later by fishermen named bill, Gregg

you know: that's not diverse bodies. I found I ride. We honestly I've been fighting about fifteen bodies a day with these guys gaps. It just kind of put him on a pallet from take him away. Adjusting their collective sounds like they or build noticed a to foot by one foot concrete block in the shallow debts and when he opened it, he found human thigh, eleven, p M, the lake was swarming with cops and all seven of the appendage blocks had been found. The torso was only thing missing, but that was found the next morning. Fishermen named Michael, do say: who used his fishing pole to keep the torso from d thing away and tell the police arrived. Are you gonna? Take this catch me all right? I have a license and this amateurs doors alone I caught in this here lake and I'm bringing it to put into my game you. This is my visual ordering. The torso was there's been no lie. Fishermen

The Leslie, my happy murder was caught by Niagara police and when a composite sketch was the man seen in the area around the time of behalf he's disappearance, the scheduled just like the Scarborough rape therefore look just like Paul Bernard hours, the capture getting warm there really ass. He ate clothes, sick of the way, the cops and that their their estimation about the Scarborough Rapists recognition to say it's like all: it's probably the same guy you're like there's. No way ok. I know you don't understand. I know a lot of guys are eight door, bad murder that girl no one ever another more dead. She has no one Donald Iphone or nine hammer. One does one like a layer, never police, professional football. This, even I am he's playing provisional baseball, will Dnc Andrews nor myth that is an urban myth and have been debunked on snobs Neverbend. But, since you know better than

the Scarborough Rapists case, detective Erwin, add completely given up on peace, keeping the case alive. Oh yeah glinda they just become complicit technically. I believe they will both good next epicycle took about how they did technically they all of this made them go into a massive investigation of the tyrannical and thank you to all the good cops out there in detectives who worked tirelessly to bring justice to victims, because these are not them. detective hour when he wasn't making any calls, in another schedule to other departments- and it's not like fuckin niagara- is a million, is on the other side of Canada from Toronto. Did the same fucking problem It's like an hour away his job yeah. So no, links were made between Leslie behalf he's murder and the Scarborough rapist, even though they were one and the same well. It's truly. Saying is that Leslie, my half his body was actually discovered on the same day. The pall Bernardo and Karla Humble

got married. We must have a lot of stress to the day here during the day, already stressed enough. It burn us Carla Homolka did make any reservations and tell the last minute wedding was not a festive affair. everyone was very edgy. Really Why was there d I'm guessing spaghetti for some reason? No, actually, what they ate was. The bee meal was chosen specifically by Paul Bernardo, because he wanted any only the finest and so every at the end of very grand affair and the meat said everyone reserve was peasant stuff too, with visa we ve ever heard of frightened fouled visit stuffed with the men of the Ivorians it afterwards. Veal is an entirely different me. That's what I would be eating of this was twelve hundred. There could also. This is a description of the mother of the bride

the mother of the groom, the night of debt of their wedding, this deadly innocence, theirs what this man decided to describe this poor. This poor woman this. Is U hologram? Yes, Marylin, bonobos, ill, fitting mauve, dress stock to her lumpy body, flattering man, leaving the distinct impression that she wasn't wearing a slip underneath her dark. short hair, was slick Matt into this her head from early. In a wedding day, there had been speculation about whether she had washed it at all. Simply left did dry, haphazard early in their humidity one couple the bride suggested unkindly that merit and looked ass. If she had been dragged through a hedge, backed up on our left leg was a white cast which clamped noisily ass. She drew closer to that had a book she rose, she may fall Bernardo. So what can be done? work, is worth doing much better. They weren't even on speaking terms with hall. At this point, and have you bit Henry, did you see the fuckin picture?

of them in their like princess die print, Charles CARE carry should the white carriage and white horses and she's in her very grand dress and he looks like a rapist and they are just going to the wedding, once the wedding was over and done with Carlton, all immediately went on a honeymoon to Maui True shit bag fashion. They raped a woman on their honeymoon, cds and tasteless rate does in fact matter at this point. Of course they fuckin liberties. I hope I will say this is how this, how deeply entrenched behaviour heavy cop rattling very normal. Is ours likely they just do it like they go to the opera? That's why he feels like a that's. Why you ice gusty? They do they Carlo Homolka, wasn't like involved partial,

What does it mean any fuckin sense, the both of them word. This was a behaviour that now it become a part of their data disgusting, but while they were being picked up at the airport by Carlos parents, they were told all about the body parts found it late, Gibson, because the information had finally been released to the public member. They were found on the day that they got married took a few days. no one wanted to. We know one want to ruin the day. No, because I want to ruin all the rape and there were doing during their honeymoon were. Are they the kind of people that get off on the paranoia, and you know it they are. They still do so. They don't like the attend hours. They thought they committed the perfect crock others yeah I get it. I Patrick

Gregoire yeah, you don't carry out, but anybody seas are torso themselves are everywhere. We ve been in New York City Macfarlane Paul were shocked that the body had been found. It all shocked, but after the police just didn't show up to even question them. Carlin Paul got back to bid As is usual only now, they were committed their crimes as a married couple, all commitments nice, I guess what they looked out for a new sex slave. They amused each other, by having Karla Strip outside on the lawn while Paul, looked out the window and masturbated watching her dance around and invisible darkness, put it dampen ground bump and gray bumping, Gray India, there really obsessed with their certain things that they don't like in canadian books in anywhere these all the books. They also, they don't like what we'll dance suggestively. They really always been like all narrow just happened around I got. Banjo hampers their that

I know you know, with the bullies really fixated on especially deadly innocence. How many our colours that Karla dared have in her life and how that showed. She was an unstable parsec. Oh that's what I was looking to get good tell because you don't one day she spanked leg stations blonde, who we, who we talk and do air could trust her deadly innocence is also particularly exceeded on sound tracking the rapes. Adventure and rem, bikes, REM, Superman, that's just like one a bit like they always made sure to say exactly what song was playing in the background. I guess to put you in man. I don't you know what it does so in a way is that a kind of shows you the normalization of the things that they were doing today to put soundtrack on the background to do all of this heinous shit and also shows you an artist once they create the art and once it's out in the world, it's out of their control. Yet somebody s not only I was now because I already know, I don't think it s got to Scottsdale

ass it had wanted. This attention, if you ask God to tap he's like you for your Largo marshal and could have been really use ministerial troika, honest get royalties we would now are you would like, or about I'm a woman, because almost songs or about having your arms open, stable, don't think here really is no it's it's also. It does give it a creep you're feeling, because when we talk about like Barber Della and you think about you, know him listening to Mark Garson, Listenin to Fuckin black mass for Lucifer. That creates a certain atmosphere. That's what you expect! You don't expect Bowie in a moment. We could. so. This is the nineties baby. This is U one. So it's the core of all of this shit this wicked cheesy ash they're all they loved every minute, your obsessed with pop culture, so the everything that was new there into whatever was top forty radio at the time and they were both dress. A Super puppies Paul Van began following around a girl named Rachel? Who is well aware?

than a guy. In a Nissan two. Forty S, acts was fallen around, but despite the fact that she wrote down his license plate and took it to the cops said this guy, I'll be around for three hours? The other night known, even contacted Paul, we need to the it in questioning is even a fuckin better than I ve been a problem is that we need a much more where he was already caution. Them is usually question once anything going on with we are just so stressed. We can deal with this. Work This was happening I heard just there was a shortage of timorous. New there without timorous. There's no two mordents, there's no Toronto, and, what's nobody's, we gotta go crazy, but when Paul called the police to tell them, there have been burglary. At the Bernardo home. They came round Oh, my god, oh my god, he's been robbed. We ve got a better. We gotta go see. Paul was running and insurance scam

you take it out of policy in June and figured I'd been a month. Let's get scam goin. We call the cops and July once the constable showed up Paul, provided a detailed list of experts Technology in jewelry that had, alas, disappeared cameras, computers, fuckin, recording mixers gold rings, I'm cash all in all Bernardo was important. Third, thousand two hundred and eighty six dollars in Lhasa spent that's down to that penny. You can see right here and now that even the emotional cautioned you have an idea of how it is, I'm all wrapper and I'm not wrap in those rhymes. They go into the eighth or the frowning and rapidly the jewellery then I have to have. I know you do I need microphones, I mean need I don't want to know.

You're trying to make in the ILO in money out of a constable who took the report was actually suspicious. Paul's claims. Now, finally, but ironically, this constable was also investigating the Leslie my happy case and wanted to get back to it, so he ignored all the red flags child the paperwork, to make Paul's clay. well, we might as well give up some money largest is just unbelievable what he does I think, that one, I don't really judge a whole bunch, because this guy's things like I get a fuckin murdered assault. Why my wasting my time with his fuckin asshole Khazar, look at the murderer, this nose and you're. Looking at all, I don't have any sympathy for that. I think that these are the while these people are very bad. You have so many composite sketches looked just like the man you're talking to any other, Russian, any other profession where they acted like this truck drivers, just driving in the Ditch Mcdonald's employee who serves you a free and wagons like a human, only eminent and whenever, like everyone else, is fired

not that I mean this guy specifically, he didn't have the sketchiness hand, like he's just one carpets, trying to fuck and do the best he can he's trying to save solved that fuckin more and to be fair, the cops in Niagara I mean they better than the cops in Toronto. Did they did their level best in the investment Leslie MAD mad deafened dismemberment looking closer nine better than the jagged wires? They both do. We congratulate you. They did their job and who is supposed to do now mainly must congratulate someone just we're doing their basic job. They determine that the summit. They've been made using quick mix and they even traced the cement. correct Bieber lumber outlet to eliminate idea how many beaver lumber there are. Nor can I wanna. Thirdly, no I only have one or two million on while, but since Paul had been paid in cash, the cops headed and I dont know what about the Jack S that delivered a return trip.

where's, the fucking oil he's taken. We went to go talk to him and he was taking a nap we didn't want, or we might be regarded as a Catalan. App. These days tell me sleeping right now, who is our no? I M, not elapsed, hope is that right, splain. The lack of work more like nurture Capps ever go. Do something else: go play. Breadbox turns me, I'm say of creeping up I dont know here whose fault this is. It might have been. The cops just talk to guys like all paid cash fact. Ok, sorry, you're, not gonna catch that guy. They might even tell me what he looks like no tell me. I don't even want to hear. Oh no you're stirred news. That sounds almost like a lead, waited no european nosey hey. What do you look like a police officer, but it could also the guy's, a beaver lumber, didn't happen. Memories

not have been made on lying on a bit like I don't know some guy got through five with little all not doing their job, like all typewriter boy would make our way salivating, Beaver, lumber and actually kind of denies it back, and sometimes we say that Ireland, I mean we closed for hours ago, because I'm very hungry, we all know lumber people. Never forget No, madam, yet I still, I always think of more that we wandered into in Toronto. That was, I think, the worst constructed building I've ever been in my entire life around, like the most haphazard, lazily constructed thing, I've ever seen, not the made sense. Everything was locked up: supposed to be the nicest fuckin neighbourhood, the entire city, it's part of the fun it's on you're supposed to be confused, you travel, but with a sigh being dead end with the concrete cops focused on the black paint and determined that it was a kind,

used mostly to paint engines and motors on their corrected It was always industrial eight. Eventually they link the paint to steel mill which imploded sexual, deviate named Jonathan GEO. I did not- Do these crimes You had its own problems, though he killed himself after failing to pass through. U S, customs following the disappear of a teenager and Burlington Mighta has something to do with that might have been. I have you know you don't know, he's gone now C mon behaves luck would have it, though you live right next door to another suspect in them a happy case good. Is that lot. They're just happened to be a guy next door. That was a man named John Peter Stark, John Peter Stark was also Beckett, of murdering his daughters. Best friend, stark, unfortunately fled as well in the cops. Robust to square one year, were not even going to look for him or so many ways to, but obviously he ran, and I am

DE. I gave me running all over the place again. There's the Timmy shortage. I know someone I saw moose. and I just gotta go myself here: you're the one who got it. No one could see a moose alone and not a small business, on a big as moves amid as some more you'll love and when I went there and bull mute movement there to go. Take a look at this most, you won't even vacuum believing it was just a deer. Were their budgets to Mars on our then I shouted mad eyes responded. Gotta uses gun, resolve these resolving all the murders and everything was there a murmur of couples so with the cops Jason, their tails Karla in Paul returned to a past. Namely Jane from number one pets, see healthy, how a thing are like most other date, rape, drugs and that the victim, often doesn't remember what happened and so Jane did

remember what had happened to her the last time she hung out with Paul and Karla in, since she was only fifteen and they were in their twenties. Jane, probably trusted them a lot more than she should have on August, tenth, eighteen, ninety one Carla Jean Paul over did the Halla thing again Jane, stop breathing. They almost killed they called nine when one, but when Bernardo Guy, Jane breeding again before the ambulance arrived Karla called them back to cancel their West, usually even for you we can really like seriously to think it honestly admit, and then you know these ambulance drivers, but, like all our ear, cancelling great We gotta get aboard a videotape a journey of your lady. Agnes actually do in two days: Geezer they usually emergency crews can't be council. Did you go up? It's already did in Canada is in America. You call an ambulance comes, but this time. Yes, the crew Justin feel

Yes, I'll write a Simon do in his hour weeks is Wednesday. I've been well, it's only once only two days may have two full eight. Our ships. That day so appalling Karla were able to continue the nauseating crimes one thing we mentioned in the first episode was DNA and, as I said, this was early days in the technology the turnaround on a sample was massive, because Canada had to send their samples to the United States for testing. So it took forever for the lad to compare the samples taken from the Scarborough rape scenes to the samples they taken from possible. Such eventually more than a year later, the lab will the narrow it down to five possible matches. One of those samples belong to Paul Bernardo oh right, we're getting their forgetting their cause. Paul had given a sample of his own free will back when he was questioned, I think, partly because he was arrogant and partly because it

probably didn't understand. Dna knew what it was. What do you live in a sample too? He really I believe, like what people talk about with Wolf level, also other countries, idea of being a master of your own universe. I do think that he believed he had total control and there's no way anybody would catch him, and that was also partly why the cops were. so enamoured with them like. While he gave us the sample no one who actually did the crime would ever give us an old buddy without flaw like Paul Ass, delete. Your t cry no street point in part by not overnight, stand by their taken samples in the first place, if they assume that anyone who gives a sample is innocent, then wire they taking samples because we have worked tubes. We have all these two objectives. Somewhere they tubes in a white we gotta use all using is with the Gue tip is actually not for your ear. No, spyware, coherently, it's for DNA for dna samples, but as the network

the fall around Paul very slowly for his crimes in Scarborough. Yeah very slowly. Police were trying and failing to form a profile for the person or persons research, both for the murder of Leslie. My happy just cut them arresting eyesight. Baby, don't cups into a terrible job with their profile but they only got about a quarter of the way there, which I say court ways better, none failing doing something really just they did guess that Who people were involved, and they did guess that murder was secondary to the sexual crimes, but they add about three other assumptions that were completely wrong great. They assumed that the killers were familiar they Gibson they weren't they assume, They are abusing drugs and alcohol, they weren't. They were using drugs, but I would know if they would like say abusing them. They weren't, I don't Jones, please now they weren't abusing. They were just. They were casual users

the more they were unhasting east hasty street. You know nice, canadian reference. There thank you, and they also assume that is two men turned. that where they were completely wrong as well. I don't even blame them on that one because it does seem to be it. You would think this is that's why it's very unusual where, after Emmy, this is post, hillside strangler I've been plenty I've only hours the out. There been plenty of them as it turned out. Perhaps, unsurprisingly, the police would not have any role. so whoever in catching Paul in Karla for the murders they wouldn't put that together until it was put together for them and its with that confession. Will end our series on Paul Bernardo, Karla Homolka make masses we're going to go to the heart of the female beast. Turning to talk

but more about Karla Homolka, her idea of history justice motion. We might talk a little bit about how pulled women. Arta was also a failed author. Now that I've been trying to find his book everywhere I mean, I know you are sorry to find it burden and a little but more of what it's like to be in the fucking centre, the canadian media's attention arrives, Uber Cobb's, they are not. We will let you know what happens when I think we all know the conclusion here, but the gritty details will talk about among the next episode, disgusting episode, These people are, in my mind, like Charles Ing and Leonard Lake. These people are just absolutely disgusting, guess and be very careful outer out there who you trust, because I especially not married couples. Goodly, there's a good week to interrogate you're married Fred and there's just no reason you look at em, it's just like the there's, no reason for them to do. They just did this they just we either my old it in their actual status. You down here

single out there and you have a married couple approach at the bar telling you how they like your vibe and they may be Are you doing? Maybe I'd? We are coming up on you, gotta know, man, I've been good comes a that something is going to start the guy's Dick first like the dawn, but you know what I want is getting him, don't get them land we honour will look, and then you build up to the summit outcome because I think the second com, as we get a rational man, you can you scenarios we lose in a package are no reason windows so much out the swing there's life had. I know how it is clear that at the top in the back here, find em out of their local police have been calm directly at it s very protective shore. Just of course, let a friend know if you're gonna go back a couple of nowhere, you're at and of course, again be safe and watch out for that.

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