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I always class that was there was all do except one. Human you know is a nice class. We had this like major thirties woman hockey. What a once essentially visit woman came in and he was teaching us clinical tremor work. I love experimental in Orange and in science- and this is you know, it leads right into the depths of June tremor work and it was his very tight mid thirties woman who came in and she was like. Ok, you guys ready we're a leash, we're gonna these emotions that are hidden inside of our muscles and she got down on her back and she wouldn't full spread Eagle

it, has always done that is Lord. We're all watch your like an empire in the world cereal she's lying interesting, yes, get going like oil tanker legs that you took in the air was fantastic. That's going to start the episode like I don't know. I guess that are left over what mark as an impromptu intro and, of course that is fantastic for today's topic. We are due part two of Em K, Ultra Morgan's homework. Yeah. Why don't you want to believe that the medical, my views going, kids with back see We agree that where we want to do today, like it's a worrying to take a hard right, just talk back see. I think that if we are going to talk about the fact that workers just change the way you hear conspiracy theories, meaning it allows them. not be as dangerous.

Viewing them through the mind of forest comes mother, our core blah me dead. The cab train the clouds and making a sick. I leaned back see they make us ecstasy. I wish come trials. Were real man, Friedrich, camera real, but whether or not their taking our drugs and making our wives leave so we'll get into it. So when we last left off during the year was nineteen forty, nine and the CIA come convinced that Soviet Russia had developed either a drug or a technique to control the minds of men with the purpose of making them say or do out of character thing. No, you just have to give them an exclusive contract. With an advertising agency. Only problem was the Soviets were in possession

no such drug or technique, nor had they even attempted such a thing. They were nowhere near it and the main thing that they said that the Soviet had was old school right, where they dude Standard on position for a long time. Stress positions where they would like tie your wrist. behind your back and like you, what behold you by your wrist, they did a puff. Yes, yes, because they, linking the slender. He would lead from you transcripts of the sex in the city, reboot The second rail is not coming back by the way now countries along lengthy responses turn years ago, Parker he's too good for it. I guess we'll as a result of this paranoid notion. The CIA had created the special operations division to conduct research in the ways that we could use drugs or special techniques to control mines all in the service, winning the cold war. Everyone in the division, you know their work, they work in the division. Is they walk backwards?

like that movie. That was supposed to be good. There was Orban, all of em, so a search for the perfect drug to use for entering sure am behaviour. Modification began and after a long search that will be the subject of today's episode, while the CIA settled on a new psychedelic that had been synthesize just a few years earlier, called L S, D, Z S, horse lsd was created and nineteen three by Doktor Albert Hoffman at the sand. Our laboratory in Switzerland, through experimentation with the earth, got enzyme urge God you may already is naturally occurring hallucinogenic fungus that quite possibly created the mass hysteria surrounding the Salem which trials through tainted rye bread. Honestly, stick around for the rest of this programming and you might get further information on this occasion

to hear more about Salem. Indeed, now Hoffman original intent was not to create a hallucinogen, but to synthesize a respiratory and circulatory stimulant to replace a drug called horror mean that was known to have negative side effects on a lady's, uterus, Yam animated go like oh, I don't do it Bobby Sub Nuns unit. Man snake out it would link out, would grab things out with untie a man. Shoes align you're like mobilized dazzled accepted, is ideal wow man. This will turn year uterus into a puppy that place francs like this drug Germany. Lsd gave you gotta stay inside S, yes, who, incidentally, Cora mean was also later used in mind, control experiments and it was one of the drugs favoured by Adolf Hitler, personal physician, who would fill Hitler's Baines with the stuff to pop Hitler back to life when he been given to many barbette Schwartz

Judy. Garland oars and dire you know she's on that fucking drip dude she's, unlike an eye movies, you so skinny she's, a hybrid forgot all hopping if you look at the bones jeez I bread, she's, been given to us by fucking eyes in our who still alive he's a reptilian you could buy. Hybrid gray is what he saw my eye upon a part of alien breeding programmes. Yes, look at her now. Lsd was created in nineteen forty three, but it sat on a shelf for five years before Hoffman returned the drug thinking that may be he'd miss something in the process of handling it, though Hoffman accidentally got some on his fingertips and found that it had a psychopath.

if effect, which is now a moment that moment like looking at your hands, oil was so we'll go out alone. We re seeing it shoot through time your hand in front of like an old western carriage, it might under a waterfall uniting their than Europe's back home, and you get those Mozart hits different on this so three days later, Hoffman decided to test a larger dose of two hundred and fifty micrograms on himself. There's just something I gotta go to work. It is we who was just bizarre that he cited to test again three days later, without factor more just turn this up a bit. No, there was one week in all his boots or on backwards, but it s just something different today: honey did you change? Your coffee is crazy. Thirty minutes later Hoffman

in his journal that he felt no trace of any effect, so he climbed on his bicycle and rode home as he was writing his bike. The acid took whole today the wicked witch of the this is just a April nineteenth. This was the bicycle day. I found out exactly we talked about this inside stories during quarantine. When I had no clue was going on. Right was the very beginning, the quarantine I was walking around my neighborhood. This is when we, while still mass about side, hyper paranoid. I was walking down the street and is due to a bicycle, was doing doughnuts area and any came up to me. Hey man, you want some fucking acid and like I got cobia like a brand new to me and I'm not ready to open the forget my mind right now: industry that could lead to a lot of fetal position. Sweated gifts were the acid took hold

and once Hoffman got home. He wrote another entry, this one, rolled note that, after the words quote, difficulty concentration, visual disturbances, We have gone ads on mark desire to laugh nice. It's always amazed when you wake up You see what you're writing near in your note book or joke book after new tripped, ass, it or mushrooms, and it's always just like store these are weird and never makes he said that there is a time when you write it down. You're like cool cool, no amendments. The first summit did ass if I had whole thing where I was sent him. How the penny is the Anja knew of the coin system paying a hot young woman at the borders? The producer, like I dislike long thing and then United Disorder, makes sense as solely disagree with you. Actually

is there now is worthless, yeah generally worthless. It costs more than make up any than the penny. Just a different color the last time I did a lot of drugs and like wrote down something that I thought was the funniest thing in the world. I remember giggling the whole time I wrote it and then I woke up the next morning. I looked at the paper. It just said the smell is the same. I am telling you now, I know that's about, but I was if you can get back to that. My dream sketch or a jubilee year. My dream, like I've, seen it correct like crushed shouldn't world, and I wake up like you, gonna write down like a waffles or day and cakes, I've done Roma often later reported about the first ever acid trip in history. The most outstanding symptoms were Vertigo marked, must torrent,

rest alternating with paralysis, an intermittent heavy feeling in the had limbs, embody gotta illusion that other people's faces were grotesque, mass capping and the shouting of half insane incoherent babble, jokes on you, assholes, I built a career on that Why he was trip at our yes, you strip it real heart, but Hoffman also noticed extreme senses of well being and deeper, more comprehensive, alma. mystical view of reality. Therefore, Hoffman began think of Ls D as a drug that could be used to treat mental illness. Its nay said the first thought was. to make it a weapon. Lulu second thought right: yeah. Predictably, when word of Hartman's experiments with LSD reached El Wilson, Green, the head of the chemical and radiological laboratories at Edward Arsenal. Only application green saw was ls these potential as a weapon getting

the thunder crash in the dark cloud over the years I like them, or if you remember I let the chemical and radiological laboratories and would do I make the anti groovy drug put it. What have you remember our episodes when we covered them Edgewood is the groovy version of em Caille trot like it is. It was them really just then throw The lsd experiments at a wall see what would stick amongst their people, but the research from Edgewood would come into the back, nor of artichoke in all these areas, things that would allow them to then use it during our culture, yeah Edgewood, they just gave a whole legged. They just gave or company of Army dude acid and then just gave the missions and tried to see if they could do it. Oh, my God, arbitration rarity, pocket studies so other Greg

God, you're going to talk to me now that with no legs- and you are like I was here- recently. I was really bad lost my legs, and then I was your service. I played with a balloon for six months, no music. It also like like don't give them sir and gas and mustard gas. They don't really fucked him like LSD was the one fine day they had way. I love watching these videos. I got into low, but of a whole of soldiers on Alice D have ever watching videos or not. I am trying to do stuff, and you just see a bunch of like J. Also love. Could this will war too? So everybody's knows official green uniforms. Like you see the g, I Joe versions on all the propaganda posters and stuff or so like the, although not not, but its damn, would like their shirts half in our home the side and there you're trying to the Wall Climb and they're. All I could have been a role for them. They need a break. Now, L, Wilson, Green, Edward almost immediately became obsessed with using psychoactive chemicals in ground warfare and after collecting all the

information available on the subject, he published a report entitled psycho Chemical warfare, a new concept of war. oh yeah. You ruined it unanimously if you want to have you, wanted to ruin a weekend just point out, a pdf that's a reading it at your college parties, because we gaps in the report. Green talked about the possibility of using psychoactive drugs on general popular actions which will hopefully, in his mind, cause mass hysteria and panic. So armies could marching in over a country city by city without bloodshed. Now, admittedly, this is a more complete passionate roll out of total war, then say firebombing or looking entire population. It's weird! No, because to me this is a middle fang, where yeah sure it's not give setting them on fire, but it's also creating mass hysteria

within the EU allows you, people are going to die almost in a way. I would pause it better. It's nothing worse than being upset buyer. I imagine fully live they form, and that is bad advice. Firebombing addressed in an all that you can do it better, but if you ve seen the movie mom and dad link signing that style, legos gauge, if they how everybody fantasizes on twitter about the end of american civilization milk, who you know the kind of society with which you don't know what that would look like that would actually were, will turn into a wave of rain and murder and suicide and people running around energy than it had yet worse, he's gonna and will considering. every war. Since the american civil war had become increasingly more destructive and deadly with each consecutive war, it is see why they want to go another way. There's not a world war two year like yeah, really it's! It is not a concentration camps there like adding to this yeah I mean the concentration camps were the worst.

but just in general, the devastation of Europe and Asia and pretty much every country every continent, except for North and South America. It's hard to fathom really how horrific world WAR two was. We drop them We have drawn the two parts of the entire thing and we're like hey. We need to really be reasonable. Now. How do we just did this and we'd also firebomb Dresden and Tokyo, killing about three hundred thousand people and more difficult to be the person the breaks up with the person Then we will have you thought about how that made me about that and also the recipe that are going with this, the recipe that we ve been using, which leads to twenty years of guerrilla warfare. Yeah. That's that's the compromise everyone on acid and it could just like

forever. Would you so excited? You go back to new one year? Well, considering all the destruction they just witnessed, Greens report about psychoactive warfare was taken seriously and President Truman authorize the proposed drug research. Unfortunately, though, Truman handed over the application of psychedelic and other drugs to the most paranoid, bad vibes organization. In the government, the sea I You really like a feels like one of those how'd. He put it fate. Did you know destiny that the thing that comes together. Where that thing words like to work and effort, meets something, and then you get sick. As for you talk it's an old Seneca luck is when preparation meets opportunity. I live my life by that nets. Traveller with married her own daughter, like Woody Allen. I mean that it when you wouldn't. You have been snot by the Oscars. Every time I see I see them getting hold of this programme is very bad for a modern,

times on the fact that it happened like this, like I really feel like give tee. If LSD went to, maybe one of the other branches were like yeah. They just blow people up who is really really is like not to be anything further, Quarterboat dissolving side too, like the? U S, Navy, because I did there with the EU oh branch, they had all kind of like softer sciences like you could have put it in another spot Irene, Take the navy and ass the other. What about fun it could it is? I who knows the Navy did pay three hundred thousand dollars to a guy to give care, went to college students it's bad about, saying that the CIA was especially bad everywhere. They were the worst nerds. Your I give it to the most paranoid people like them, the biggest psychic explosion for the collective unconsciousness in Europe. Hundreds of thousands of years and you give it to the sea, I you put them in charge of the new version encounter culture that all of us will create. Yes, but since the CIA was me

sleep, an action agency. They needed a partner to conduct the deep research and sense biological weapons had fallen out vogue. The special operations division at the aforementioned Fort Dietrich needed a new project, and I apologise for that. Camp treat Dietrich became for Dietrich. So if I referred to forty trick as can't Dietrich, in the last episode I apologized all you, army, fuckin nerve, Googe, to see what biological weapons were wearing yesterday, you're all wearing online, they rolled covered in anthrax its values on how to evoke it's out of oak. So a covert joint programme was created between the S o d and the CIA a code named in K, Naomi after one of their secretary, She must have been so flatter cool, then the main thrust, aim, K Naomi was to carry out field tests to learn how

airborne. Biological and chemical agents worked in crowded environments, partly to test the theories of L, Wilson Green, the psychoactive chemical test. I thought Bio weapons was a six year. Inversely by, like TAT, Yeah like what you like, as well as their first experiment? Six members of the ESA De entered the Pentagon in nineteen, forty, nine pretending to be air quality monitors. They sprayed mock bacteria in the air ducks and found that had their operation been malicious, they could have killed. Half the people in Pentagon. Meeting cowards you, I mean you spread all of this bullshit inside of the buildings and then afterwards be like you a tingle on Wednesday covered even back to

from near conditioning units. Did not we can show you the longer we re having tried it on a smaller scale EL. The income know me: team escalated rapidly with operation, see spray in San Francisco choosing the city because it had a coastline tall buildings and chronic fog. That would disguise the germ clouds they were about to spray into the Bay area. Here that I can still see Hulu we are all of these problems. With this idea of cam trails, again old, now come trails or even that's kind of passe, but at the time would have cultural talks, let them it's kuznets changed the smell of her vagina. Ah, but I mean it made a marketable but see spray involve planes. Dumping out of bacteria on american cities. So it's happens. I get another thing that I that's the harassment, that's the kernel of true

within the conspiracy literally Billy sprout in this context. It in dozens of men on, but I don't think they use they used minesweeper, they didn't use planes and see spring to day they had crop dusters. I noted the used many different ways, many ways of spreading it, so they did stuff that was on the ground they had should they had could eat crop dusting was a thing that they would you oftentimes in there when they were running experiments outside of the holy ghost easier is going too far less the bill would do that boy. My mom used to tell me a little bit of a different scenario: the deed DDT they used to. Just a truck that would combine in North Dakota stray everything with DDT and these to play in the fog so yeah they have that ability to just spread a bunch of shit around. Yes, it was. They have cropped dusting operations which were Antigua which women have but probably next episode with Frank Olsen. They were. These were done by ship, so they were great by ship. Ok

we using a minesweeper provided by the Navy and without notifying locals the Kay. Now me team used large, aerosol hoses to spray a supposedly harmless bacterium called sorority a mark. And this I think its markets its mark, ascend, Saratoga, Marcus ends to the coastal missed if it was played by a character, be Bang Benbow been Congo bump What does the middle income comment about? Aids have not always Benedict cover bunch. I met him. What this bacteria was chosen because it had a red tent, making it easier to trace and it wasn't thought to cause ill effects. Ass hurry. Experiment was an unqualified success in the eyes of the income. Material is everywhere yet wait. Why we're out an unqualified success because they were

the surmise that the spray reached all eight hundred thousand San Francisco residents, as well as well as people in Oakland We saw so Lido in five other setting louder and more of us these. You got that right, I'm so have you guys did that, but the casualties of operations, spray were by no means negligible. Over the next few weeks, eleven p, were hospitalized for serious urinary infections and red drops? found in their urine. In one case, a man covering from prostate surgery, actually died from bacteria they raised were sent out so still flattered, named over me, and you know it. Do you get flattered if your cat brings home a dead bird young people their new way, not would say yes again, you hear and we hear many a bumpy ass, prostate fucking thing.

That actually neo me put up. This is just one example than doing it. I remember I was watching a documentary about this time period. The bio warfare shit, leading up to project artichoke and the way they got these guys talk about. It is very similar. The way everybody else's talked talked about. Everything else in terms of the as it was like. A game was a clue the game that they would playing and the one thing that they we lament is that they never got to use. Actual live. Unwilling people like the Nazis got to do because they got to have all these people. They got that so the efficacy of all of on, but also it's the way they talked about it because everything was in color. Everything super casual, so one guy was talking about how the way that we would go down the block. So tell me, come over to the din dung Hutton play with the hot stuff can wait. I sat down with a guy, wasn't an actual name, but eight we would have needed, but the hot stuff is what they would call fuckin anthrax. There would call these things where they would work

control lamb scenarios. But this idea of like them all joking around like come over Jaeger, that's up, sometimes I kind of like said to shiver up my spine. It is bizarre to think them. Listening to Frank Sinatra, rats, I admit it- I've had a levelling when you're like what are your regrets? We never got to tested on actual seriously like that's your you didn't kill it up. People know These scientists started working with Operation paperclip Nazis, like they welcome them as colleagues, because these were the guys that had done the shit they wanted to do like these down with them and have these conversations like a rat, tell me the real shit like really tell me the real shit. What really goes on and the Nazi went delicate yeah fuck, your man. You would not believe what mattered eyes. If you just pump him full of blue,

the thing I thought he become like sticky onto our divided. We all we want hoping in an I got that better goons are going to die because growth as a fucking party, pooper fascinating ass. Now, since agents have proved that they could, in fact a city population with a biological agents, the First rector of the CIA Roscoe Hill Encoder directed his agents to start experimenting with chemicals on a smaller scale. This undertaking the first step towards M K. Ultra, was called operation Bluebird now Bluebird, so named because its goal was to find ways to make prisoners sing. Like a bird q was mostly concerned with experiments using chemicals for interrogation purposes on foreign agents. I bet you did they were more law plea to actually make bird noises then give credible information. Absolutely. Therefore, the subjects of these experiments were people the CIA,

was gonna interrogate anyway, prisoners, defectors refugees, prisoners of war or basic, any non citizens. The United States just didn't like wall who's that, like that, like that, like the Nazis, weird homesick rule learning from them. This was a time of change in the CIA and it was decidedly a change for the worst. A new director took over nineteen, fifty and one of this new directors. First, decisions was to hire the aforementioned o s: s psychopath Alan new, say psychopath. You feel up to me. That makes him more exciting than anything. Islands Thus, in my mind, is a ghost of a human being. Now he is a Hebrew to love the secret hallways of power. He would be exhibited as one p person to his family. Amid multiple mistresses. He had a I, his family did

anything about what he didn't kill after he died when you're in there all like we had these lovely summers. now here, when they would go to these little like this wonderful little farm town where you live Many of us do. They went through his documents. Much like Kizil won his fun vacation. Uruguay. get off your Uruguay, in order to stop and there are daddy words bad. He was some kind of bad news Maybe he's one of the great on Dallas is one of the great villains of United States history. Yet another example of a person who thought he knew what was best for everyone and that everybody else bingo fuck them U S history ally would sail in Dallas is one of the great villains of world history. Yes, certainly one of the greatest but villains in the world of the twentieth century. He fucked up like the world. He chose the world. He really was one of those gang karlheinz great men. Dulles had become a student of the work of psycho, endless

Karl you during World WAR, two and when Dulles began his long career in the CIA. He became obsessed with the prospect that science could do cover ways to manipulate the human psyche. His eye Carl Young, was also Noah s agent. He would flip over his psychological records of Nazis that he was working with at the time and you gave him to the: U S government, for them to find out how to psychoanalyze these guys so dull was put in charge of all mind. Control projects, along with most other covert operations, making Dulles this spooks spook he's like David, tell he's the green, comedian dollars saw mind control as an indispensable part of the secret war against communism and just about every time. These programmes accelerated. It was our Dulles, his foot on the gas. He was really obsessed with us because there's something about these types of guys. These, like true like decay,

yours and waiting that they want you, you see this happening all over the world were such ass. She spoke to absorb a political ideology. You have to love He won't. He really wished to have total control. the world's might like he what he wanted wanted to figure out how to treat all of us like puppets if he could sure and mine's a paranoid cold warriors like Alan Dallas, the cold war appeared to be escalating, eleven leaders of the Communist Party. In the U S had been convicted of seeking to overthrow the. U S, government and to british intelligence officers, have been revealed as soviet double aid Modern, allegedly thing was that when you start to realize all these espionage world it was so casual. Everybody had somebody everywhere else, like yeah sure I might have been this guy. I do think that there might have been people on the inside of all these things for me People on the other side, too, we hired a bunch nazis, specifically Alan dollars. High

a bunch of nazis do be our espionage. Henry you don't understand Germany. We also need to have all guys dyke a horse place. We need these people take the falls, and say seaward, while so with the belief that commies were everywhere, Dulles task, Duration, blue bird with finding ways to crawl into the brain of about anyone using any means available, no matter how cruel or destructive those methods might be additional early memos also directed researchers to investigate ways than a person could be made to commit acts under post hypnotic suggestion, along with ways their own age. could be trained to resist such tactics. I was reading the book of Sir

I and stratagems by Stanley Lovell like the guy? That was the the guy. You first started experimenting with we'd back in the day with the in the West S times, for s, fuckin like using all the liquid, we decontrolled people's brands, but you suck for ass, I saw hypnosis right the first time he saw. It happened in front of him when they reached the very very first experiments were yet to army privates, this guy he had a hypnotist come in. They took these two like guys where he said they came just so directly South Carolina that he thought that the army boots they were issued were the first shoes they have ever worn to rise and he's like ok I do this, then we other hypnotism works, and you like this hypnotists came in and we think on at eleven a M today, when you are training. Your feet going to become very itchy and you're gonna have to take off your boots and scratch them, and so there, like. Ok, do that levelled not with the with these two guys they looking their watches eleven. I am that you guys what Mama

democracies are sorted into their feet? Incentives hypnotists, like you see, I mean I think that these men would pay for chance to show me their God. Awful feet, break dress code of this army they again too they're like do have right? So the question is: why is it more suggestion? and have no way only was far where they were going to test these interrogation techniques, Dulles contain that these quotas unquote augmenting only be carried out overseas because many of these experiments with he frowned upon if they were conducted on, U S, soil off a whole. So that is why I put all these letters. Seize on the ground was ie, so we can do the experimental here. Why

Oh over, like lies on the ground, and we get in agriculture, and in here is its of luck in play on words clues. You like you, I won't ever there's nothing wrong with that. May they fired him because he went bald, it was it gives you. The time happened to have yet Brigham back, so the CIA began a search for what would become its first Black psyched now black sites didn't come known to the general public and tell the mid two thousands when the dirty or parts of the world, or on terror were exposed, but these secret CIA prisons, mostly but not always located on foreign soil have been in operation since at least nineteen. Fifty, the first black that we know of was established in a former Nazi p, O W Camp called Camp king. There was converted by counter intelligence off.

There's into a: U S, installation for cordon, unquote, special interrogation ban. Can you guess what special interrogation means probably get an interior decorator over there, if they're going to changed all around any of their suggestions on any known like ripping off toenails ballooning people's miles stuff, like that, did torture yeah two hundred percent toward area. We of course that something that people due to other people use freezing water, emotion and baseball bat beatings, other traditional torture techniques, the officers at Camp King also club silly experimented with mescal and heroin and amphetamines without any real goal days through a bunch shit at the Wall quote quote way: collides the goal, the gold or on actual go make them talk,

I am able digits beat them pages, beat them with their life or grand put about the middle of nowhere and scared try to scare them. They really Friday. Scarab, though those the thing to create the temperament to create an atmosphere of computers here, you know like you're out here, you're in a very scary, looking castles in the middle of the Bavaria, mountains? You got nowhere to go or not of these guys have licences to kill, know them aware and a badge their own and their old from everywhere, the firm Russia in and UK and America. You don't who you're talking to no one- and I m here doc into your trip in a different drug everyday. Oh my gosh, but since these guys were the sorts of soldiers who do just about anything to Nancy, the sort of like to guarantee those bastards now is yak. Can't king became known as the clout got. What and the officers who ran

place came to be known as the rough boys. I somehow and then you ever see, and if you look up the movie rough boys at the crowd. Garlic is different Now, what does not now, I'm wearing a bunch of cortical rough boys in a german castle different plot weird, I didn't want it so much in it. Now the rough always willingness to do just about anything, certainly appeal that Alan Dallas, but what really caught his attention was the fact that disposal of bodies Camp king in the parliaments of CIA memos written at the time quote, would be no problem. No prow, no problem! You see that again. It's so weird

flippant. They refer to it in the CIA. Memos that you say bodies spousal was would be no proper. Otto no shirts nobody's no problems affecting the shoes see camp King was a site where the CIA could test any drug or any coercive technique on a steady supply of human subjects, and if any of these subjects died, no one would notice because the subjects were considered key quote expendable and not in these treasured film franchise sense. When could they were actually not expendable? Could they were actually very good job, incorrect you're. Talking about elderly people's retirement, move its motives, collecting checks in debt and in doing the Lord of the rings handshake every eye, but these guys the these expendable allotted were source by a group called the gale and organization which was started by which was fronted by IRAN art gallery was this guy. Do I've been talking about? Alan does dullest nazi friends that set up there. They were the espionage,

wings for Hitler in an loved them? Now is a big data. Alan Donnelly would tat be like they were. Hitler's favorite spice like rural, like that's good. gray, and so he like Dulles was such ass. He could be such a weird objective Percinet times, or he just looks at everything in such terms of we can use them because their good who gives a shit the right. This is when centralism turns to fascism, bright idea that everybody is just fine. They all get whitewashed right like in this scenario. What is a hyper extreme version of looking at these war criminals and deciding or we can use them, because the same fallacy that the fucking, the chancellor had Hitler to begin with this idea, we can control these guys. Thou worry yet he might be hard core nazis than are fuckin working on their own agenda, but will control them in the end which you won't, because only goal is to have them because they were already having their own inner plot, knowing

one day, if the so called democratic experiment doesn't work here. We can flip this whole thing and will be the New Nazis and George, because it was all about being afraid of a little popper. He reminds me of Antonio Brown Tampa Bay buccaneer. Z Legion when insuperable with them, but they could not control him the fields and taken insured up so Antonio Brown, I'm gonna record saying so Antonio Brown is the Reinhard Galen, yet Yes, that's correct will be productive until these not will expendable in CIA terms, meant that if a person in disappeared. No one would come looking for them. Many of these expendable were soviet agents, but just like was with the war on terror, there were a fair amount of innocent refugees, mixed in who were just at the wrong place at the wrong time. Just people that the gale and organisation did alike in then Various people

but no matter who they were. All prisoners were treated the same in what came to be known as the CIA is Torture house. Now the rough boys were seen as somewhat in air. get that the CIA simper own men to Camp King to carry out experiments in the service of project. Blue bird bluebird, however, was considered so secret that even a secure army base like Camp King wasn't secure enough. The CIA open their own cite just a few miles away under the protection of Camp king at a large state called Vila Schuster from outside Vila Schuster appeared to be a regal old house at the end of a country lane inside it also appeared normal with high ceilings, a dozen bedrooms and imposing fireplace on the ground floor, but the true tear a villa Schuster was the basement.

It, was unfinished and was going to take me months, all monster grouting, as I or about horrible there. You had a complex of breakdown storerooms, which converted easily to sealed cells that could be used for both prisoner housing and human experimentation. Basically, Vila Schuster, was the house from resident evil. Oh, my we'll talk about voting rights. We have the house from the late dieter laser, yes, yes, I'm human set of peat stuff could be I went on who were seeing here is again like what has been now seated by pop culture. Again and again, like we talk about with Eddie Genes house all these things that existed in real, they were real and now have become like a cliche. You know now it's a thing that people talk about oh yeah, that house at the back of the field you wanna go there, these be come from somewhere. What does that say literally invented this? This whole thing of like words in overcoming a really looted, scary man, yeah and envious?

sure like they were they talk about these times, where you would have these former concentration camp doctors talking to these projects, bluebird scientists in front of the fire at veal issues too, drinking brandy haven't a grand old time. Meanwhile, below their feet, ourselves, full of political prisoners being experimented pardons what I was thinking of you, the neighbor who just comes over with some bore. Surely there at the dinner table, we are making here s a nice Ramsay another have some lava cake because just watch gossip, somebody dumpsters knew no, it's my bit my sleep about another person that the CIA officers, veal issues, Schuster? Look too for guidance? Was it german physician known by the innocent name of dock Fischer in reality, Doc Fisher was General Walter, Schreiber, former surgeon

and role of the Nazi army. E Schreiber had approved experiments at Auschwitz, Ravens Brook and Dachau in which inmates were frozen injected with mescaline cut open. so the progress of gangrene on their bones could be monitored. Hey man I'll have you gotta know far goes. I d up, I hope K. Let's take them for a second. Are there other ways to get these answers outcome? New gas? no there aren't they can use. It has like measuring the corner, we'll the one that was That was the reason why they took a lot of these nazis and I'm also why they protected the guy in charge of unit seven thirty one, because the experiments in this information could not be glee. and unless you killed the subject I just couldn't be, while specifically Schreiber seemed a specialised

in experiments involving the slow, an agonising deaths of his subjects, which are specialty, Sloan. Organizing up, oh Schreiber, had first been captured by the Soviets in post walls were to Nazi round up, but eventually he convinced that you, it s hard to. Let him take a teaching position in Soviet occupied EAST Berlin. Those who can't teach yeah you're his radio as Nazi round up on every side or around Schreiber, soon escaped to West Berlin and gave himself up to the Americans, who offered a choice, operation, paperclip contract operation, Bluebird interrogators directed by Doktor Schreiber, worked without supervision from any one, but C. Cia agents setting a present for the CIA to detain and imprison people in other countries without regard for domestic or international law? And then president lives

to present day? How dare you ever defy the art of improv This is this is yes and mortgages here, Billy Mandela, those for all my own way. Once the CIA get a taste for it, Le Schuster in Germany. They soon copied the formula and open black sites in Japan there they captured and targeted north korean soldiers using sodium at all and stimulates like bins, a dream. The aforementioned core mean and pike row toxin under the effects of these drugs, CIA experimenters subjected prisoners to hit noses electro shock and debilitating heat. The goal was to induce violent cathartic reactions by alternating between deep sleep hi alertness, confusing prisoners, nervous system and tell they could be coerced into Spillane the bean

thought in lower their innovations. But he does also seem like it just makes. You want everything to stop which kind of. Why? What is the problem with court and quota? We call these days advance interrogation Willie's owing to honour its right now, but I want to quote and the ideas, but the problem is that then they'll say anything. Absolutely essay like I got a good. We have to end this, I admire you whatever you, NATO until you, whatever you need, but I think we can all agree out of all of these. The hypnotism is about Digital out, even if not even near the real hypnotism park, because the me out it needed to students, you don't like each other kissed. They want, wish. I could Thank goodness bullfight we'll have that debate next episode. When we talk about whether or not you can truly hypnotize somebody against their wishes to do something against their will result really empowering the hypnotist glass? No, I don't want to be anywhere near them afraid of them. whether you are struggling with grief relationship stress, are having trouble sleep

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for free trial and when you are ready to launch use the offer code. L e f t deceive ten percent up your first purchase of a website or domain no eventually Doktor Schreiber got tired of his life at Camp King and tried to go to the United States under the terms of his operation, paperclip Contra. Thirdly, this basis freaking me out money out it s describes on. I honestly, I love dreams, I kind of like minded earned out o. is added up to here with the screams, but when a reporter discovered the transfer, he publish testimony from the Nuremberg trials, rightly implicating Schreiber in concentration, camp experiments, so Schreiber quit the hall the programme and fled to back up Germany, Argentina leaving Camp King without a court and quote staff doctor a fuckin, ditch

good moved a book in California, where per Disney. That was his dream Henry I will have to be an ipod due to be an imagination. That's why I gotta do the concentration camp business to begin with, though, sadly there might be a truth to that luckily for the CIA, they had a replacement in another sociopath. Nazi doktor called Doktor Kurt bloom who we covered in episode. One yes see: blood had never actually entered the United States because, even though he had been acquitted of war crimes, Nuremberg? He was still a highly public nazi and airy values, Nazi very goal famous big time.

why not you never want to just be like hey weren't, you accuse of all those war crimes that any of you like? I was acquitted, but there wasn't trial if you use the Casey Anthony of Nuremberg. Our work here I got an ever take my firefox, but it was the blossoms presence in America might draw attention to the hundreds of other Nazis we'd already brought over. So when Walter Schreiber fled to Argentina, the staff doktor position at Camp King was open, and since doctor like the idea of quote a return, to buy logical research. You haven't got about three yeah. We all my girls here his new life as a small town doctor and accepted the CIA offer to oversee the experiments at Vila Schuster, the resident evil house. I wouldn't

you- I don't know if I have said love of the game of giving people different viruses and watch what happens that might just sort of fallen out of it, but may be just this one. Last die with my little boy with cancer just been, I don T think you could give. The boys let me go in a bomb, doktor problem for me. I have been working on this idea to maybe like make like a virus like is because a man like We have many sources, with a student I shall be easier than in his name is MR virus. That's a great idea has eaten unseen Doktor blonde specialty in the concentration camps both biological, an hallucinogenic experimentation, so he was

technically the most qualified nazi to do. Project bluebird work at Vienna Schuster Bear Doktor Bloom and up nation Bluebird operatives were task by Alan Dulles with answering a series of questions. If answered the information gleaned would be considered to be of great value to the CIA, and these questions would form the basis of all CIA mind control programmes to come. Among other things, they wanted to know if accurate information could be obtained through drugs. If these texts, eggs could guarantee total amnesia if they could alter a person's purse. reality and how long that alteration would hold if they could make unwilling. So checks into willing agents and how quickly all of it could be done everywhere. There's executive producers all over Elaine go like me to tell me as well. How do I get, but even though doktor Blonde could oversea these experiments

Alan Dulles realised that he and other project bluebird agents lacked both the scientific background the imagination to really answer the questions. They were asking me sure, blog, could inject mescal into someone spying jerk, but he like other concentration camp doctors like Joseph Mengele, were like a gang of psychopath. the little boys certain cats on fire, then timing, how long they took to burn the death of that. As you know, the nerve to your versions of little boys yeah, they had great knowledge and how to? other human beings, and they had great knowledge of how long it took to do so. But these nazi doctors were hammers and Dulles needed a scalpel so dollars and a bluebird operative Richard Helms Director of the CIA after Alan Dollars, by the way who decided that they needed a chemist with imagination. I dont think

should be down. You need a creative Ghana creative. Now we go wrong here: family, no weapons. No, this is gonna, be perfect, more? They needed someone who was willing to ignore legalities and conscience in the service of national security. That's a truly important part, the man who ticked all these boxes was Sidney godly there. It's me. Devil calls its fundamental wake up, don't forget to come in on Tuesday for your horse, Blinder spitters acrid right down the tunnel unrivalled anywhere else, I'm Leavin Isoude palm regime next week. The Sydney godly was not your typical military man. Nor was Your former o s officer, like a lot of the other guys in the CIA instead got leave, was among the first

in a long line of weirdos employed by the CIA to run or inform covert operations, a committed nor who lived in a large in the woods with outdoor toilets, got leave. Meditated, wrote, poetry, raised goats in his spare. Time and was a lifelong enthusiast of folk dancing. That's how they, human criminal. These various things they said. You know you could never find God without the newest folk music sheets are in his hands and was playing the piano in his little like elephant knees would lift does he goes, plays his folk music, while thanking of botulism focused, notoriously nonviolent focus a peaceful music coming earth. What are our logo three no, not folk music, folk dancing. You didn't listen to music while doing it s not.

when was that only like folk dancing, it's not folk music, that he's dancing till you care what you could be a way out of this. You have. You could see how I'm dancing. How would you describe our death like a teddy bear that came to life and realized? It had no brain that scope dance. Yet it's its folk dancing where it's sick, it more cultural came up where it gently liking like irish dancing like those who have their like the TBD tapped, it is to do what I do I get. So if I go to a run fair, I will focus yeah kind, a kind of guys order, Colombia, dance. You you have you thought on you, big man, stop lumps dance the answer, what it's like a member and to put it in a year perspective, been the guys that, where the later hose in and they do, the slap dance like slap slap claps, labs yacht club flats, that's folk Until now. I understand yes, again I loved.

later hose in terms of course, in addition to having all these sweet, innocent, fuckin Hobbes. He was also the director of the CIA control programmes for two decades and as senior chemist, he worked as the CIA is chief poison maker got leave was born in the Bronx. The Son of Earth Jews, which is ironic, considering how much of his work was built on Nazi research inspired I would like to remind the movies that guy he's gotta get that guy kuwaiti Series of pocket, zoo everybody right got. Leave was also borne with deformed feet that who did made his mother scream when he was born

well he's Eugene levies, character and best didn't show to levy, and while his feet were corrected by the age of twelve got leave walked with a lifelong limp, after starting as academic career at City College in New York got leave transferred to the University of Wisconsin, where he made strong connection with IRA Baldwin Baldwin, if you'll remember, with one head government research into biological warfare during World war to hold. On a second see you mean to tell me, they were planning to poison and killed thousands of people all in a whiskey contacts and we're gonna take on we'll take him down What are you know? What we need is a we need the bag. We made love my people, but nothing should ever be said seriously as well. You never want to have the most recent trials. We got an accident. It is not good, not judicial number, it's not that

after graduating, Magna come loud in nineteen forty. Is it manga? Come Lahti, nine of them nine Magnano admires guy, with six hundred and sixty four out of six hundred and sixty six students and yeah yeah. I graduated like a two point. Three cards, I was not magna come loud. I wish I had a two point. Seven you for some were when the math class of the really drug down the same here. leave earned a doctorate in biochemistry from Caltech, just after America entered World WAR two, but since got leave still had club eat. He could not non last, even though he badly wanted to do this,

billowy to fight for his country during the war might have skewed his perspective, a bet because once he did get a chance to surface country working with the CIA, he would do anything with out question eventually got leave, got a job at the FDA, developing test to measure drugs in humans which led to a job at the National Research Council and nineteen. Forty eight bear got leave was exposed to what he called cordon quote. Interesting work concerning ergot alkaloids as Vasco directors and hallucinogens that of course, meant Albert Hartman's, LSD Research, a man whom he means by interesting work. He means I'm trip in Bali. injuries by by this time, nineteen fifty one operation, blue bird, was already studying the effects of drugs, Hypnosis Electro shock and sensory deprivation on foreign prisoners

they were convinced that what they were doing was not only right but essential to the survival of the United States. Sees author, Stephen cancer. Put it in his book poisoner. In chief, Senator Joe Mccarthy, another Wisconsin boy had convinced a large. Loss of the american public that Communist had infiltrated the state department they haven't, but even People who should have known better, like Alan Dulles, believed they had taken Do, you know, did infiltrate the? U S, government alcoholics, yet ass ever they were spies against themselves. Yet, how come all makes you a double age gave us up, but the day was they wanted to believe that they want to think that this was true because then evaluated what they did and then they just

did like it was, and then just moved on would not prompt turban would therefore Dellis believed justified in using any technique to root out the commies and even though Sidney got leave had openly flirted with socialism in his whose Dulles took a cue from wild Bill Donovan from the o s s in his opinion that he would put stolen himself on the payroll if it meant defeating the enemy. You know you decide if someone's russian and you ask him if they can recreate an episode of everybody loves Raymond My dear make it a crushing realisation about the authority and what it's like to live in a kind of like a poverty stated. Yes, the Russian, but your mother lives across Ah, I watched a bunch of dirt german Dubbs of king of queens. The other day was highly unsettling. I mean he's been

what oh, my god. I went in fat man blind, but I didn't happen. You're that look have a germ, Jack Evan James C doesn't hit the same in the hinterland. So after three months of intelligence training got leave, was given the official title of chief of the Chemical division of the technical services staff and was charged with developing testing and building tools of espionage without oversight or limit. Now, you're gonna hear the term the t s ass. It's gonna come up a lot in the next couple episode. Well what they did so within the CIA. Remember where the idea guys- and we had the guys that, like to be people looks like the hard boys in you, add the soft voice. This was when the soft boys we no longer really giving the government what they want like this? Is they were frustrating like project? Bluebird was frustrating for them and then also they were all complaining. but the emotional burn out they all had from torturing people web. So they created the T. S

ass as a good new new branch within the CIA that would actually than covered the even more nefarious hardship to again further compartmentalize it make farther away from everybody. Also, eventually, no one would know when anybody was doing at any time. You may know a great point: There should be a new hostile movie where the torturer it begins. Where he's clock it out, and I want to see what happens when he goes home. It's how many just like men while another I'm getting bored with this Oh yeah he's only Marie's em over it ts, as they also had fun stuff, though, why all the stuff? You see international Spy Museum in Washington DC. That was the ts ass. They did like rubber aeroplanes. They meet escape kits that could be concealed. Rectal suppositories bears a word about the international supply. Museum is, if you don't know, what's propaganda, what's not and they little these funny little invert. May these things what was also put out in of spies and stratagems? I was the first time

see all of those kind of like the fun things than they did in the weapons they made, nor with acknowledged they did and seems in my mind that none of it worked in operation and lot of it was just plans and ideas they put out to project. They see a on ability to do things that they didn't have the ability to do One Sidney got leaves position was established. Alan Dulles decided the operation. Blue bird had not gone far enough. It needed to be expanded, intensified and centralized. So nineteen, fifty one it was reworked. renamed took project artichoke, is so nailing funny. It is Mikey veggie its spiky vegetables, hard to get to the centre. Yeah. That's true is named our ok, they're, not quite sure it was either named because artichokes were Alan Dallas, his favorite vegetable fats, disgusting

either it begs to, but like I like artichoke, I love our final. I wonder if I d make em your favorite vegetable. I guess I don't think that's the big just indictment on his guard. I know, no, you don't be fair or was and after a New York gangster known as the artichoke king, why am I looked at the artichoke king and his whole thing was that he bought all the artichokes that were common in the New York City and they charge three times what he somebody bottom for look. How did you know that work camels? yeah. That's another victim of the artichoke killer, newbie until Josiana jokes. It is simple man and that's I understand it, but at the same time Alan Dulles was also rising in the ranks of the CIA. He was promoted to deputy director of the same year. Artichoke was christened making d us the number two man giving him carte blanche

to carry out whatever experiments key deemed necessary for the goals of artichoke were similar to blue bird, but the scope was much larger. The programme was extended to more black sites outside of Germany in Japan, specifically to Fort Clayton in the past, anymore canal zone there, a bulgarian prisoner named Dmitri Dmitri of Code Name Kelly, became the first subject, a project artichoke we hold out there. Like what was your name Dmitri, to be dropped. We'll call can. I mean, what are you up and you're a big random, ass names and us was anything technically all the the secret name subsequent operation, India, because they have nothing to do with anything that there will be no here random, see Dmitri had been work. With the CIA, but his handlers had become suspicious of his motives. Despite his insistence that is only loyalty was to the CIA. This is the problem there, like the thing is man? Ok, we're the C. I a right- and I dont trust me right now-

bigger than any, because you, you said that you say I can't trust you, because everybody says that the CIA again and get anybody know the old people worse. Yea are podcast comedians how their pump in this information- rose. You really fuck with the web, is well known destabilizing why radio war everyone loves her Webby, so after the CIA tortured Dmitri for six months in a Greek prison. She was shipped to Fort Clayton or he was subjected to artichoke interrogation experiment, the aid treatment. Now most of the experiments prisoners were subjected to under project artichoke would qualify as medical torture. It was not too far from what the Nazis of and prosecuted for about five years. Previous slit, no Marcus, we won the war a bath, bring we one. So it's different now now it's a celebration now: well,

also America did not take on any of the Nuremberg laws than most other countries dead. We just said now: we're not gonna do cause a lot of them did have to do with human experimentation and what part of the Nuremberg experiment with part of the Nuremberg laws was that you, to have the unqualified permission of a person to experiment upon them and the United States, that and said now. Also, if you get a chance during the Nuremberg trials, when the Germans per ten like they were, anti semitic. Oh like they had no idea what was going on with the Jews? It's in some of the greatest german act, Are they gonna want like me The surprise faces when you look at the pictures of the concentration camps, go like war. All something special were unwell,

prisoners like Dmitri would be dosed with potent drugs subjected to extremes of temperature and sound lance and strapped to electroshock machines. All the service of finding the best way to write a man's mind like a broken horse. Don't will find these techniques some will go through them, especially in the next couple. Episodes were like they would come more refined, but I was trying to look up like what exactly was the sequel of events that what happened you go in one of these interrogation rooms during this time period, and I can't find one so what the order or we'll just like what. How was the prosecutors? Who really did see? Truly, it does seem and if you know any different sides stories, L Ptsd another I'd love to know, but from what I seem, it's really does seem like it was a aim of like what are we gonna do today? That is the only you wouldn't like ale military reality out and see how we respond when we take them up.

away German, although, judging by our most recent example with Abu Ghraib, I think it is improv yet ages in be like ok, let's unity, rabbit but electrodes on there some Unita Ribs yet doesn't like You don't like it. I like it. I like it doesn't like. It is too good cause mostly doesn't like this one. Guy comes every time we somehow Dimitri, survived Firth three year. Gosh what a nightmare until the CIA decided he's all right gear, our we are all now yeah I mean, will do that's where we did. How many guys are still in Fucking Guantanamo Bay that we put in their in two thousand and two still haven't decided I wouldn't get out now. What does a guy had a thing the other day about a guy who's like still in areas like I dont know why the fuck I'm here, no one will tell me, will now it's scary cause there.

We let him go he's gonna be mad. Oh yes, I'd on our way. We re just gave him an air and barely he knows what that secret spices that goes into the cave, see chicken. my god, and after three years they just released me back into the world to raise for decades about the ill treatment he had received from the CIA. The experiments performed under me trot just like those per in Germany in Japan produced no worthwhile results. Nor did they come any closer to answering the questions. Dulles wanted answered, but Dulles had convinced himself that the Soviets had definitely discover the secret of mind control, especially after America was introduced to the concept of brainwashing. Now these days, brainwashed is sort of a hokey term used mostly to describe people who fall in with cults. But back in the early fifties, this was a legitimate term used by anti communist propagandist to terrify the american public. I mean it still out there,

no floats now did just so. You know, because of you type in doktor, Kurt blown into my search engine. It is all anti backs shit. It's all regret. The intense conspiracy theories that people really you newly surprise, how affected people are. But the idea of brainwashed we just get outta Julie Army on the fuckin secret singer, bullshit moors, using we're ever mass, will give the fuckin shit we're just another being like no we're all the same. It doesn't matter only Ryan develop the government. Does a man only normally who, in September nineteen fifty one are wrong bed anti communist and former always as propaganda specialist named Edward Hunter, published an art and the Miami Daily NEWS entitled brainwashing tactics, force chinese into ranks of communist party. This article claim that a secret communist chinese Programme have been developed that controlled people's minds. This programme was called she now, which Hunter claimed roughly translated to wash brain,

it's not good, but you you know, but he nobody who knows again, who knows because we'd like what does it mean what exactly where they doing over there. Bristol we were doing, it seems that we are, we really expanded upon the concept, the american way or you could say, culture is no more than brainwashing, and that is our major export. Interesting No, that's how you win that I want to cultural victories of sexism was boring way to do it, but by war, and what I mean with the from what I know about that. What they talked about, like at least the chinese interrogators at this time, is that they would basically taken out. They were tortured him for a while and then like bring him back, and can I use positive reinforcement with the other prisoners with the prisoners would say like have you. Become a communist yet like we would love it if you would, and so they just had. It was a good cop, bad cop thing, but where the other prisoners mimics as cycle, you go, but it man words and Deeds Indiana, but maybe it's a psychologically

It is very much a long terms because I'll show you a lifestyle to like they will go me like you could live like this, like we hands things which come here, you can find a nice communist wife and you he'll, be even literally like do all of this kind of shit, like its communism, birthright, will eventually Hunter expanded. This article and new a book called brainwashing in Red China, which Americans to prepare for psychological warfare on an unimaginable scale, not realising that the true psychological warfare would not come until the age of social media no matter what the Chinese were actually doing. The american public seized on the brainwashing concept as a way to explain nonconformist behaviour, especially anything They deemed anti american or unorthodox in

First, the CIA, back this propaganda and publicly announced that the communist had definitely mastered brainwashing techniques. Secretly Dulles became convinced that the mind control gap was widening. Therefore, or more extreme measures became in Dallas view a moral duty. It's very interesting to see how the CIA they still wanted public opinion on their side. There is some Also like inherently, I don't mean to put this in a way. You know you, people who listens DC aid, my bosses, no match legacy eva near so needy like do you want to, love like everybody is really, and they really feel like this. They want to be these heroes right. They want they. They have this idea that they are the here that the centre of the story when actually it turns out that actually into very that you're very evil.

Because you do all these things and I the illogical basis, which ends up being because you Khatami vision right. You think that you're doing this for the good of the world right when you're, like no you're hurting people, all you do is create more pain and then that the cycle of violence it just like reverberates psychically throughout all of us, because it goes through the human unconscious and makes us all more violent now. Well, it's not good No we're not they deal is full, like put the data for complicity campaign for brainwashing and propagandizing America to convince the people that this so important that they then would have a mandate to go, knew it, which is very. I don't. I don't really know why they even needed one. I don't think they really that. Why will say it? Probably did help them get back up from the quota code officials up top so like. If you have the president believing in it too, Where he's looking at his pole numbers anything like everybody's believe in it I mean it does help them. I guess we'll get funds. So what you're getting at work

words, funds and permission, keep doing what you do and keep the paranoia go and we're project artichoke also had subset assignments to glean other kinds of practical knowledge in the pursuit of the main goal. It was suggested in, but we're by way we're about to get into a lot of suggests, We're just brought ideas here was people at this moment where I could say, or could it be fear true. This is your time. It was suggested that gas guns, gasjets and gas sprays should be studied as delivery devices. Additionally, it was suggested they stood the problem of permanent brain injury following exposure to these gases, as well as suggesting finding out what depriving rain of auction for long periods of time might do suggesting in case just in case you come across this this eventuality,

make sure to study it. We normally does that makes your buddy Timmy pass out at the sleep over then I mean I that is good, and that is the CIA. We just plain the joke. Our game, drownded mountain, do shoot your pants because you pass out man bring him back so my feet. You thought I, echoing you, seven thirty one it was also suggested, the project Artic joke, examined the effects of high and low pressures on the human body as well as the effects of vibrations. Monotonous, sounds concussion, ultra high frequency and ultra sonnets in the bed, the break the mind of a prisoner. They also suggested testing the efficacy of constantly repeated words sounds continuous suggestion. None rhythmic sounds and whispering all the sea when it would do too

business psyche. I've just had a fuckin chill rub my spine. Its literally dashed acts, trending topics and some are if my whole internet culture, if I like working to put it Oh in your fuckin brain we're going to water board, you were gonna grab your dick and you know do whatever with it or I'm gonna whisper ass. You wish you can whisper all day whenever I think, but I read my dick aroma like unless you that amaranths woman, because she has big boobies, almost hear them when practical application they divide moving or vibrating rooms destroy did rooms well phobia Rome is overly damp. overly dry rooms and perhaps worst of all, completely sound proof rooms. One day this be known as Hollywood horror nights

we just sounds like a New York City Apartment building, except for the sound, performs the additives very true, sound, prove rooms. It's supposed to be a torture that you cannot imagine being in a completely these have usually in those rules, because you can hear your blood, like you, Your brain onward, new prisons were making that are supposed to be so wonderfully were much more inhumane and they do that now and sound dampening, they do say, sound, dampening the doors, there's two doors and the other people after a cup years and there they come out and the men, then they just determined to an interview on camera, really is like an alien conversation yeah now. Finally, project artichoke was all told that under no circumstances should the agency consider libitum your brain surgery as an operative measures. We have back all leaves you, but they did feel that the subject quote could be examined. The opportunity presented itself.

Hold on a second, so you do you're going do about it. We know circumstances. Should you do libitum accept, but some specific pisses greater comes I wonder why we have ones like overly work, but a few our canoe, a room in a guys doing a la Bonamy were already here, we do in the eye you're out. Men are your rationalizing. How I buy pork at the store is ordinary authority. Dad could be rude not to eat or from a result standpoint. The biggest problem faced by project artichoke was at the researchers where scientists and doctors with no training in psychology, which was ostensibly by all thrust, bind this buck. In fact, therefore, everything was trial and error D, without any real knowledge of. Why We're doing anything I mean if you're going to experiment on me, figure something

he's telling you got some like figure out how to get the whole just right, beg, you couldn't I mind with autism in barbecue its, but also like make my dick bigger doing. I throw some get Romeo Boneyard, be the person that suggests Heaven above light back with the bloody Mary. Whatever I be wound, not bad on the chemical third side of things: scientists back at Fort Dietrich outside Washington, DC or hard at work, producing chemical compounds for what they called artichoke work. In addition to deliver systems for said chemicals and then also now I got an email basically called what they called the Ford teacher cancer bubble, which is. I would like to this day the cancer rates around forty truck skyrocketed cup articles. I was ratings by its wild and very scary wow before

Dietrich scientist constructed a four story: high one hundred thirty one tonne chamber officially called the one million leader test sphere. This is kind of metal yeah, it's scary, but to the men who built it, it was known only as the eighth I thought I might like party Oh my gosh. This structure consisted of five airtight humidity in temperature, controlled ports for which toxins could be sprayed on subjects trapped inside these chambers allowed scientists detest potency of toxins under different, condemn meaning they can see if certain chemicals, fungi or bacteria would work better and say Moscow or Cuba. good evening hold and dry or hot and wet which one's gonna be better. Did you would like how they test Gore Tax for

furiously yeah well, but among the most active men who would fly back and forth between Fort Dietrich and the german Torture House, Vila Schuster was Morse. Alan director of Project Bluebird Morse Island was particularly fixated on the application of electricity, and he became obsessed with losing electro shock to induce amnesia or put some. ex into vegetative states? It's definitely a thing that what it does is it cooks, your brain, a lot of times after his experiments. You don't go back to normal, like they can induce amnesia. They can couldn't go to raise your memory, but you don't come back as Tommy now on Myrna Tommy, your beer agree Gore you're, MR electoral mandate, sixty sixty nine should there be these days, they figured it out, like it's very small, tiny of course, but back then it sir. It just turn it on

conduce. It was someone else, since it was the melt. Your personality guy, more solemn, was also one of the first in the programme to become interested in hypnosis, which will become highly important to em K ultra later on in search of hypnotic knowledge, Alan studied with an unnamed hypnotist who freely in proudly said he used hypnotism to rape, women, a good party like good line. It doesn't make anybody laugh no one likes Morse Alan brought these techniques back to the CIA and found that he could put employees into trances. That could turn the most chased employees into flirts or the most tight lipped secretary.

into gossips. I don't remember this. Otto member, this Cathy COM, extra- nine- just I don't know what you gotta hypnotize in fact, they office again why we can't ever fuck entrust the single person without the watch a stop. Why, unlike his idea like he used it immediately to be like this is so deadly wants to look? penis like this, what we ve done good point John Brennan's the world any time you see CIA secret intelligence. Anything in the car. Iran can trust him. No. No, but for project artichoke, the holy GRAIL with the discovery and applicants in a single wonder drug that would loosen tongues open them. into programming or wipe memories. All this, depending of course, on the guidance that agents gave the subject of the artist S had already proved that marijuana was effectively you. Less but Project Arden joke figured. They give it. Another shot arise again, Dose

each other with candy salad, dressing and mashed potato xv, robust Now, there's a whole industry, Brian road take a bigger than breathed into my when they finally just smoked, though they found that is nothing more than quote a state of irresponsibility, a relaxing of inhibitions and an extension of humour to the point where any statement can become extremely fine. That's so easy to monetize. Eighty didn't understand how good it was. This isn't like any. I actually don't even think this. We does very good. I think tincture was probably goodbye. Imagine that, like I bet it, we Now I know why don't we have two strong we'd now we need to have some very good. Of course, will you still in York? You don't get the full gradient. Yet. Why look at the full gradients- and you see all the different there is now it's all hyper specific, like this shit that these smoked. Unlike Vietnam, where am I got a fucking

barrel of a shot gun near me. No, no, my bag it. This is just jazz bones. Man we created that noise is a magical before what? If I keep the drums, tiny fucking fan give tiny little drove noise. People love it when people drum are like way. I'm really sorry old boy did see. Why it was a scoop. Put five notes. The song everybody calls me a fucking Jeannie's after we have a great deal to be desired. The CIA, but after weed was deemed useless. Artichoke scientist tried. Cocaine by their minting on mental patient sort of get him to talk. They said the cocoa produced elation, an talkativeness which was good but found what subjects said was ultimately unreliable yeah. It was like. I did the experiment with Gregoire.

And then the next thing I know is like he didn't show up to the half marathon that he promised that he was gonna shop with me four and eleven I know that's his feet were itchy. It was unfortunate, but if you want to find out what what are the effects of cocaine, ask anyone in Congress The majority was lit off. His working ass Matt Gates is what happened: cocaine and human used the next was heroin. which CIA memos noted was used frequently by police and intelligence officers to either disorient or hook prisoners on the drug. Think about how com- and it was now comment- was that it was the illicit is an operative, measurable cops uses to fucking fuck with people all time, you're like oh, what

yeah. They hook him on heroin and then take it away to produce a talkative desperation for, of course, more heroin. Additionally, the? U S: Navy had already sponsored a secret programme called project chatter to study the effects of heroin amongst other drugs. No progress. Chatter is fuckin terrifying, that a scary do that. You have said about death now and they pay too ecologist at the University of Rochester three hundred and dollars to do it. His name instinctly enough, George, went war. George went gave me all my ass. It had been guided by George were little, who is the norm of acid Jerry, Garcia up there as regards their we'll, students, were a dollar and our to take heroin, so George Wind, could watch or about but ultimately, George went declared. The heroin

little value for interrogation, but speaking a project chatter. It also involved chemical research done by the Nazis at the concentration camps with mescaline. We ready paid, for it is in other things like we ve already paid for all this research we might as well. Yes. Well, it's already done. Mescaline, synthesized and laboratories from pay out. He had been a top can under four a mind control drug by the Nazis and by those Nazis and operation paperclip. They saying we still haven't reached the limit of mescal and we need to do look in Moscow and more artichoke. Scientists, however, deemed to unpredictable to be useful, not seem, the CIA had hit the end of the road. As far as the search for the farmer Collage go, holy, GRAIL went but he's got, leave poured through reports of drug experiments,

He noticed that very little research has been done. Concerning l, asked D, be a curious man. Got leave, tried, LSD himself. First for a trip guide, he chose. former officer in the World WAR to Chemical Warfare service named Harold Avram, send out of that I d like you to bring your and slices change the tv when its little do fuckin when its harsh in your shares. He couldn't get a more consistent with our trip and balls off of mushrooms who could figure out how to turn the music on the markets, fixed Eddie, what everyone who say they know your name. It is true. That is true, and I did that even after you remind me, so I have a gun mean thing: do you add a cash flow anathema big sky, Harold Abrams, and he was one of the few scientists could actually done lsd. So yet he was pretty good trip. Guy got leads trip was first rate. He reported out a body feeling

a sense of well being and euphoria and the sensation that his higher body within encased, they shimmering semi, transparent, sausage scan. Harry Harry Harry. I'm gonna talk about doing their progress. There is to be brought my book. It has grown up. No, no, you see person. Did I hear dude yeah man had no, then you, I know exactly what you think room case to just meet burn. A meek was soon got Lee began to think, LSD on Volunteer CIA colleagues and scientists at Fort Dietrich, some agreed to trip and controlled settings, but others gave permission to bees. pray slow with it, or else I don't know, I'm gonna be dose. Amber fund did not know you're about to go insane.

What a nightmare had to marry down of the experiences of the various officers are really interesting because a lot of the officers that got it like, but you know there professional, and it would be like disorientation I feel dizziness. I feel a day. You know there is an accentuating soon, the river with them of their something to my vision, but some of these guys, every once in a while you had was called enlightened. Big became and light and officers where there was one dude that started weeping when they gave it to him and he was crying. Does he did the thing where you dislike raw, like layers same consciousness- and we know we are of the same matter of birds and trees- were all in the same global economy and seventy started crying and strengthen this guy's a gun generally, they look at him. In a note, the unlike seem that this dose cause sadness. Looking good crying promiscuity, yearning for subjects at must, eliminate and also

when a barrier on Monday, Anna Pussy forget that guy's, eventually those fair warning tests, reach their limits and gotten began dosing CIA trainees without warning. Oh my god but a man ignore rules down then, once the treaty was high, he would interrogated to see who violate oaths and promises ran gotta. Do I owe you rather be Barnhill? The breakthrough forgot leave came when an officer was dosed and revealed a secret. He swore he would never reveal. Then he forgot the entire epoch.

so once he was no longer trip it and was very easy. Now, we'll forty acres roommates gardenings this guy's, a communist with this got leave felt that they were finally on the right track. However, LSD proved to be almost is unpredictable as mescaline those who got surprise doses experienced intense distortions of time place in body image which, more often than not culminated in full blown paranoid reactions. They don't know their own acids, they think they're losing their fucking. My young athletes hard way you gotta, even mushrooms. If you lightly have mushrooms, you can kind of slide into a trip and understand was going on, but ass it comes on hot specially near schools. Shit directly acid yoke and our eyes reckons bout like didn't. You dont give new trip.

Like you, didn't get you eat. You don't work in a night club which, theoretically, if you get those a girl, is a but like you're at the sea, headquarters is around with various broiling up stuck up people in the world smell horrible once you like the office setting and dripping yet, and then you go interrogated by your boss. Oh my god, that's for. If I was you tryin to the network, nice, Fernando shaking his head on the violation of human rights, does have you guys don't you has never got an office step? do not forget to step into the bathroom? We were woogie to meet over Kisses office, big wings, but their side triples, would also ride the wave and have ecstatic or transcendental experiences in which they would become convinced that they could defy there

interrogators indefinitely. Surely I love? It is kind of fun. If you can flip in milk, some knuckle your fire from humanitarian. Therefore, hallucinations either wave were more of a hindrance than an aid to interrogation, but since LSD was so unpredictable, it was suggested by security officers that it be used as a kind of psychedelic suicide pill where agents would take it in the event of capture, so all they'd say during their interrogations was pure gibberish imagine tripping in an enemy jail like an idiot, how Matin jail, yeah contradictory to this method, those security officers also drug CIA agents with LSD as a kind of mind, control vaccine in case the Soviets ever capture them, and gave them lsd. So you would know what else he was like. If the Soviets ever captured Ogier LSD,

I'll, tell you what, though each trip is different. It is, I can't really don't get used to it. Like I love it. I log tripping on acid, but it definitely each time I've done. It has been a unique time. I've! No, why for me ass. It hurts my bones Nana heyday I think it's because it's like an upper in your up, but you run, arrive, Noirtier interesting, but while LSD was proving to be more slippery than got leave but home. He was still convinced that chemicals, where the future and in nineteen fifty one he flew to Tokyo with CIA scientists, test what they learn from chemical interrogation, experiments on forward, japanese citizens suspected of being covert russian agent. The key word here is suspected systematic They are not just with. We don't know if they were got leave in these CIA scientists injected these prison. with an alternating variety of depressants and stimulants under questioning and when all four confess to being russian agents, false confessions or not, they were

executed and bodies were dumped in the Tokyo Bay, sure you're we gonna kill me. I thought this was all rip? No, no! No! No you trip, and then you die wall was soon after the sea eighteen- flew to South Korea, where the experimentation was repeated on twenty five north korean prisoners of war law. This time, however, the goal was not confession but renunciation. These p, O dub views, were drugged and told to renounce communism, but when they refused twenty five were workload. Acts were all franchises with Mcdonald's down. There are now no Dana acts on merit and the regional, maybe maybe a mix of both, but even though the flip hadn't worked, the confessions had so one attitude that ain't bad. yeah, but what happened

like ok with these guys confessed. So we gotta keep going with us so jealous again expended the program in nineteen fifty two and set up a safe house in Munich for project artichoke scientists there they were given permission to experiment on hundreds of so called expend the four months they gave prisoners, massive amounts of drugs and some time given electro convulsive shocks on the insistence of Morse Alan. Whenever shock, am I get one more and the role of european or out like just like tanning Ehrlich do is maybe vitamin d would help Anna every single attempt failed and every single expendable was killed and had their bodies burned, but Dulles figured that they just have found the right angle, and since he had a good feeling about got, leave Dellis got to work, making formal arrangements to give

led the power to take project artichoke in whenever direction he deemed necessary wound. Gotta do is I'm gonna spike. The New York Metz is on the use in the subway series Dogma book in Prague bomber. Don't forget they do that. What was it doc? Something new, pitched, a perfect game on our european balls on, as in so maybe it'll make the Mets better, but this agreement gave got led the authority to feed drugs in much lower you're doses under far more tortures conditions to prisoners and other helpless subjects such as mental patients, all to see what he see and that we are going to see a lot of that in the coming up a word that, as we go when this thing really like you expands soon after got leaps power, ink, EAST when Dwight Eisenhower was elected. President Eisenhower appointed Truman's CIA director as his under Secretary of State, which meant that Alan

Alice was promoted from number two to head of the CIA in this wasn't Additionally, Allendale US, his brother, John Foster, Dallas, was named secretary of state, which meant that the CIA had the full support of the state department. This gave Dulles all that diplomatic cover. He needed to continue running black sites all over the world and is truly was how the black sites got us, abolished, where u, S has blocked the CIA, has black sites and that's just the way fucking what we did, what we do so with total freedom from consequence or question got leave got to following any avenue that he thought might lead to results, and since he needed more doctors willing to expand the programme he brought in

a sociopath from New York Psychiatric Institute named Albert HAWK. No, instead of confining experiments to prisoners of war, got leave was now expanding the sky to include unwitting american citizens and he putting non military personnel in charge of said, experiments, ways comes home and neither the pilot programmes for what come next. So this is like them starting the the beginning work, so that would become the Octopus malware studies, MP, Ultra and since Albert HAWK, had no conscience or scruples whatsoever. He agreed to inject mescaline into his unwitting patients without their consent or knowledge just to see what he could see. Hawks first subject was a professional tennis player named Harold Blouse, who just gone through a nasty device

and was seeking treatment for depression. Is it because you honestly love is like a gave attendance, irregular Enviro, but it all away to forty five. You never really out until you're out get up close to the net. That's gotta says what I about love. It's not for some reason. Doktor hawk figured blower was the perfect subject, so he began injecting blue or with mescaline without telling him what he was doing? What I bet you. We thought that you would like he's secure he's great ankles cardio like you, must really be. How happy do you think a tennis player in the fifties you're divorces? And I don't know they throw the rackets a lot. I know well over appear of about a month. Lauer was injected, mescaline six times and each time he complained of high Lee unpleasant hallucinations,

This is an open need, not be sad anymore doctor. You got us not go the web arter. Finally, for some reason, HAWK gave flower a dose of mescal fourteen times larger than any previous dough silent idea. If they don't know what they're doing all they really just make it up as they go. This is the thing we keep saying they just make it often there's nobody in charge. That's the whole point six minutes late, Blausser was flailing out of fear he spent eight minutes flailing. Then his body stiffened after two hours passed, Harold Lauer was dead, just what a great wondered. What I asked from bad vibes like bad tripped himself to death. You could imagine how terrifying those last night in her life was well. You just like love to see some demonic forty year. How you never know

five minutes to ours like two hours of rigidly tripping in Oh you die yeah. I guess you know has like when your trip and in like your? U in time, can I add yeah right in my mind, more reflective up time. Just slows down! Imagine that for two hours, that's like some Freddy Krueger Shit in as one medical assistant later confessed. This is a direct quote. We know if it was dog piss or what it was we were given am way, but the option one like, like a dog peace within the office. Yet I honestly I was taking it for my adhd and I've never been so hope in this wasn't even the worst experiment hawk performed. He would also give LSD to patients before and after Lobata myself, what be easy evolve once he gave a patient lsd, and a local anesthetic before

la bottom or ass, the patient to describe his visual experience as chunks of his brain were removed. I'm dead! No longer, I don't know, is relic flowers. Do it smells like flowers of getting the flowers mouth? Am I a shoe to be honest? I fly into some blight yeah. Are you taking shocks in my brain? I won't wait, wait that what this is wait what, but even though got leave had and the power to do whatever he wanted. He was still frustrated after eighteen months of experiments, he'd been forced to met. None of these drugs had answered any of the questions dollars had one. an answer. I am sure, with the questions that I actually now that we ve been doing this for a year and a half from all this was to be doing what was because these you're, just screamin, and there have had a lot of them are just scream. So as author Stephen Kins, or put it got, leave had to choose between two conclusions.

There was no such thing as a mind, control drug or he just had discovered the right one. Or we discover the right one. He hadn't discover the right way to use it. Well, you better. Try try, try again it out everyone's dead new. Actually, that's what he said. He said I was hired to explore not give up. My friend, this is a horrible you're, a horrible doglike Jimmy Fathom with his aunt, if teeth ass, he doing he's, the again he also we interviewed the robot military dog. Really he is an arm of the. U S! Propaganda machine us out of the rose, looks down into giving out there come at home, for you, so got leave concluded that the secrets to mine control were locked away in LSD. I also greatly was. He was taken a lot of acid himself at this time. Also it is hidden annually.

she was what you'd call fertile. This is what they did. They literally said this cause. He needed a heaps talked about getting into a creative head space He was soon waste with acid, well that they were just like you did zip zip up. Does it make it better than was full of Amsterdam. In the least he was at least he was also. I don't know right now, on acid authority, and at the same time, though got Lee was take on another role and the CIA. Besides just chief mind control expert, since he was the CIA senior chemist Anne had experienced introducing toxins into the human body and Cynthia, that Nazi Concentration Camp research to draw upon godly became the so called poisoner. In chief, his first official action as poisoner came in March of nineteen. Fifty three when Alan Dulles told got leave that he needed a clean way to get rid of a senior officer named James Cromwell

See compound dollars had worked together in the o s S during World war, two but see. I had discovered that Chrome thought was a pedophile who'd been. I mailed into being a double agent for first, the Nazis. And then the Soviets bit of liability of size, so Dulles informed cramp at a dinner that his services would no longer be needed. we're going to have to let you go, and I wonder he knew then. With that met, worthies has been like yeah. Maybe we should part waste. Maybe this is best It is a failure in the double agent big. I would say it's actually more. The double agent thing: yeah for him. Her doll. Only a programme of the three dollars is yeah. He would use any if he doesn't always usually willingly kick every pedophile out of a CIA, nine or meat if he used Nazis so casually yet he'd use about a file, but this guy was such a pedophile that he was caught twice first,

the Nazis use them. Then the Soviets used him so Cromwell, was escorted home by CIA Security Officers and Cromwell was found dead. The next morning with an empty I'll laying on his body, because he had been killed by an untraceable poison made by got leave. So they left the thing that could be traced, which is the vile that the poison had and on his chest, like the mafia, does that when they kill, you gets words yeah, it's there the poison is untraceable, but anybody who knows knows no, so we d is that how they killed Marilyn Monroe, Marilyn Monroe humming, I'm hummed again, I've been set back years. Having proven his loyalty got, leaves request to further explore the possibilities of LSD in the search for mine control was approved by Alan Dallas and the resulting project.

it was entitled M K Ultra. Why go for part three of our SIRI, May god- and I already is now ultra- we got some stories ahead of us folks. We gotta give or take a deep into hypnotism we're gonna, get her talk about Frank Olsen, we're going to talk about continued CIA experimentation over the next. What three episodes we're taken? Five, we don't know our primary five. I do think I like that. You address the audiences folks, because this this is, but they are easier. I it's gonna just get thicker and meaner and more fucked up in them were also gonna get deserve more. I bring a load and work and spiritually territory, especially the there's. A couple: a choice named words that these cells

Bush books about em, they also really it's very, very intense and where we're going to cover every last squirming Enchieveth stick with as folks. Well, thank you so much for listening. Will you do a well out there? I don't forget, check out the comic books sold plumber assailed him it I've got Bush, do not push because in supply lines, supply Jane Line, that's all very happening, and then, of course, the Z to Comic Z, to order preventive measures, do less come here and left the coffee morphine coffee, Cilicia, some still dragging its absolute suggest, and I believe he was Well, to purchase a larger machine, it is not yet ready. Vassenka purchase the other things that are not just the moth men, but wine on his sprinkle jack off so Duluth giant. My love I strangeness is delicious. I lie strangeness and he's got its gelato torque,

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it is my gown final words just loudly not is not not ironmonger. Nine occupying. Why joy over sandwiches is your warns even moment? No just any. Let's get back to use psychedelic ferment, That's when I advocate microns those pills like a mother fucker two days on three days off, but can you if you combine on that because a macro those now that's what you do not mind. I am actually. I was macro dosing for a while. I am now micro, Dosing added an egg is much it's that it's not quite is fun, but it works better. I'll say that we'll take care of your brains out their otherwise. The government's gonna try to take it from me alright, everyone failures, Satan Hell gain, be careful. if you try any sort of the psychedelic mental or else after doing under the care of a doctor, me hostility, Fuckin Daryl, what I'm asking how we came to the door and then do half what Gerald and take the wrath after you're used to deepening allows for than you

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