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The clothes are back a bit curios, it seems area between my pockets is the most curious although well that's a little offensive right. Everyone. Today's episode in the series of episodes to follow we're covering David, miss cabbage, of course, of scientology fame. Come in for you, you tiny bit. I answer the exact same. I know I know how our over those due to do. He david misgivings, oars tower larry openness, gotta scavenging is so short. Nor is he has to go up on his wife, whose dad in big bear. I accepted I love it and I'm in no

We did our series on scientology founder I'll, run, hubbard six or so years ago. We ended it somewhat abruptly with his death and nineteen eighty six, mostly because what came next in the story of scientology was far too large to broach yeah merrily. It's another three episode series worth of information. Yes see. After our own herbert died, he was succeeded by a twenty five old goblin, with an incredible amount of energy who, through as brilliant series of highly calculated corporate moves, had positioned himself to weasel his way into the top spot, despite the fact that you is a relative unknown amongst the rank and file at the time? Sometimes it's about heat. It's! What takes you to the top look at the spotify ranks come down the future. Dr Greg almond he's the number two gas in the world, and I now doing a lot of great anal research anal play o this goblins name is david, miss cabin,

oh shit and don't you fucking, forget yeah, and he is now actually been. The top man scientology four for longer than l run hubbard was ever in charge. We realised that we did the math as we are doing. The production call, and you know, cause it's all our age, our age because again he's the heart sold me the adventure and romance these? Are the creator of it? All? Is the body yes, missus Shimerda David miss cabbage. He gets in there and he really just there's a fuck up. Yes, yes, he is the human. And of a mouse in a zero around a series of elephants- and it makes the elephants go all crazy, but it shows he's the one extended he's. That would be a good thing we caught calculated. It was like thirty one years that elevators in charge and now he's a close, the thirty five. Why, when the cabbage is the and who made his religion a force to be reckoned with. In hollywood, the man who took a cue from catholicism and turn scientology into a real estate empire. But most importantly, he was the man who secured

tax exempt status yeah, but when we get it, I'm just start your church. Already now I thought academy has to be called a church or you don't get tax exemption nurture of thought. Academy cat, I'm deacon, but David, miss cabbage is also the man who let this incredibly powerful organs it get to the point where they could be chipped away at an taken down by south park. Stacy from saved by the bell fuckin fortune. We all remember the first real target of the so called hacker collective anonymous. It was scientology yet, and that was the first really first time scientology. Really wobbled was when fortune when, after a hard, but to be fair when it comes to the scientology episode of south park, south park did have some ramifications. Jeff chef laughed new isaac gaze. It was like the only time under the muhammad. sewed, which has a little controversial as well. We was the

time where the guys actually had some blow back from within and then Nancy cartwright also was it who's a voice for the simpson see barred since you think she's, a famous scientology and his famously ex need several episodes of the simpsons had had some form of scientology joke within it. She would not participate in because she knew she'd have to go through a hell of a run down near. She actually came and spoke at texas tech. When I was in college in the early two, thousands and afterwards she came down to speak to everyone was very nice, but she had a big fat stack scientology pamphlets with what you mean some like death, it, oh no. I had at a huge boost feel our heavy. This book is cheap. Seriously feel happy just like a book, as this is the entire class five scientology handbook. I have and guess what I'm doing today now. Do you not to read it precious audiences gonna learn a lot about david miscarriage and I'm gonna he'll marcus

technological discharges that emu is Jimmy, thus for one second before we get into their such as these we got biggest thing is it is. It is a collection of every single piece of tech, then you can get from class five by a kind of tea, Israel interior ministers, volunteer minutes, which means guess what not getting paid. Oh great, why you're a volunteer rats, yet you're volunteer, who has to pay for the material? Is that you use to volunteer? I have the privilege to paying for the material, because I have the privilege to go teacher for free, but this is the most ass. A nine view of drug use Yet we're drug is exactly where it shows a guy doing. Co came with a full fountain drink strong. During our agenda, I guess you don't want to get too close to the table. Our right today, David, miss cabbage,

a man with enemies on all sides, desperately trying to deflect questions about the decades long disappearance of his wife, while coming out of hiding only to film commercials showing off his admittedly fan. Ass, the new air blogs, he looks like a cat, like you know those old commercials for batteries that have the plastic people knowing and energize, or people ya. You look like that. It's very nice said they looked with that primus video for us but he's beaver. I known as big brown beaver, not despite their shrinking influence. Scientology is still well funded organization, as evidenced by the two superbowl ads they air, just as previous sunday they're right way was the eleventh consecutive superbowl that the church has had enough money to purchase at least one spot. Now I am going to it's. Just judges do a little bit of bush back got filled. Also, and to cap good good on your cat, but got filled at two commercials also they might not be as its

as they were. I hears no way do they act like I'm, seven million dollar, seven million for those at all, and I do not. I always do what the fuck you took, my gut felderson fuckin fox news. The superpowers on fox got fell but you probably got a break and also, I believe, most spots or between br between two and seven independent, where in the game they all the air, it was an interest smattering of Jesus scientology and got up by music But the human ems are back yeah. I want to fuck each one of them little, that's the only place to do it. You know it lets you crack open the. shell. No, no! That's where their policies in their dicks our law- that's true at me. I did for you guys that picture that naked an imminent last week I did have breasts and of a giant No, you will be aware that not a single bit pubic care for lebanon, and I thought that was brave, and but I wish I D, the eminent did have boobies that we all recognise the readiness of course David miss. Can we go

what we know the longer Miscavige is in charge the more membership numbers crater, he is put simply a weirdo manic, pratt boy, unbelievable ashore, tooth little boy with adhd, who is both confusing and cruel with his insults and punishments. He's like that kid. From that episode, o king of the hell, but dusty, bones full of green bullying hank riding around on his fucking long. Over and over does your bones full agreeing? Does that's david misguided, but the thing is it's a really effective way to just devastate the human mind horse. If you eating it truly is a psychological trick again the absurd to you, a nonsense column, you a clam laugh and right in their ability to ensure for a clear what are you the its wits weird, they say a thing to you. It makes no sense to you, but they're, all lap and like you just got burned out of your fucking choose loan to follow, is why how am I a clam? I dont want to be a clam, and then you have to move on to

unclear, mean yourselves shocking In this case, is the man who introduced physical pain and torture to the world of scientology worries in the days of iran hubbard? It was more about control and money. Yes, it was predatory. Of course it was, but it wasn't that physical, our age, I mean again truly oh, but seldom strip away. Some of my ironic love of Alaric, I do understand he was a difficult may bad her bad bad guy con man thief. I see all this shit, but within him or of a religious freedom, but there's a part of me that, like like, I know for a fact, I guess elevates like control briefly would elevate. Really liked was his uniform and he liked his hat It's like corgis, he loved his corgis he'd, been on his boat. He loved ever recall him, sir, even though he knew he was bad at everything he loved all the trappings of being the leader where and then he kind of was like truly very kind of

spected and thought that, like all, maybe in some way, I believe in all of this that I am talking about, and I can kind of check my own way. out of this. I can figure out how to do this, but David miscarriage was his violent hand like dying or age, had violence in his heart and it reached out, and it shows david, misguided and then David miss cabbage became the fucking slapping hand of scientology, so well run work is still responsible for his own creation. I italian an escape at a lowly and say what you about our own hubbard, but the man certainly had what you'd call an adventurous spare. Now, I think of safe to say, and I need her mouth and body, but the difference between hovered and miss cabbage is the hubbard is at its core he's a romantic as anyone

saying he loves as little boats. He loves the adventure of everything miss cabbage. He doesn't have a fuck, an ounce of poetry and assault. No david, miss cabbage came at a scientology playing an entirely different game than everyone else. Miss cabbage was playing the corporate game and he turned scientology into a reflection of his own character, but really the main question that were born answer with a series: is how does a cult survive the death of its founder put another way it sort of like a ban losing its lead singer. It's like outdoor division became new order after eating curtis die, but will you

I see that some people like new order, more than joy division, yeah and some people like David Miscavige, more than they like to l ron hubbard some people like foo fighters more than nirvana. That's where most people people I mean I like them both but David letterman's, favorite musician, is warned Zevon, followed by foo fighters and he's got his finger on the pulse of everything right now, the kids loved, even london, they can't get enough, but just as the tensions that existed enjoy, division became magnified after the death of Ian Curtis until Peter hook was eventually and wrongfully forced out of new order. Does anyone knows what he's talking about? I know because I listen to the series, but yes, Marcus is a gen one. So too did scientology take on a different tone. After l ron was dead. Speaking of a change in tone when it comes to scientology defectors, there are basically two camps. There are those who say that

I told you always has been and always will be a scam. That's one captured a scam that you like that, just a game, the dna or if your lifestyle and that's it, knew and you like it, but it still scant now it still a scam. You stop paying through the nose to play this game sure, but then there are those who still believe even after they have left the church. That scientology is real. They just believe that miss cabbage came in an perverted around hubbard vision which, because they didn't go through the goddamn man book and hand, it is about touch her knees. And then, if you, I didn't, read a whole thing and among work do this. If you want to do where do? How are you Make somebody sober using signed two logical like let's, let's do it Instead of usual payment. I'd say he drove oh yeah. Absolutely I look at the liquid death. Ah, look at the liquid death. Yes, look at the liquid does look at the liquid, then look at the Waterloo

look at waterloo. Ok, now you have moved look at the fucking wandering, I'm looking at it. So yes, yeah! Look at the wicked death here. Are you sober? no, I can t do to starboard literally what useless it. It will definitely could put you in indifferent kind of mind, funk as a sort of focus. Perhaps you could also just lie and say: yes, I'm not sober. Yet I mean that's kind of the game. find out whether or not you believe the lie and guess what you just got scientology no matter their philosophy. The people who have left scientology over the last few decades have been incredibly vocal and we therefore have an abundance of sources when it comes to figuring out just to David, miss cabbage is and how scientology has got into the point that it now finds itself in twenty twenty three most helpful in this had been the books going clear by lawrence right, a classic in the cult genera and a billion years by might render the latter of which being the most harrowing, because it was written by a former member of scientific

jeez inner circle, and there is also a real. I got some good information from beyond belief by jenna. Misgave issue is David miscarriages niece, there's a little bit of kind of, standing a little more context into to it. There's a lot of fucking sources. It's just interesting to remind ourselves. They all have families, oh yeah, you know he's just somebody's uncle. Oh no. The somebody's cages calls him uncle dave thing I go on. I can't believe that uncle dave would allow me to be doing manual labor in a desert in california, and it's a fucker. I don't think he's uncle dave anymore. No he's he's a screaming psychopath, but for the early years of David Miscavige, his life have no choice but to mostly rely on the words of his father ron. Miss cabbage who co wrote a wobbly. Take out of his own son called ruthless, and that's where we'll begin our journey today. Yeah still do like any father who writes a buyer of what a dis book about their children. I just don't like it when no parents take down

kids, even if their kids are horrible. You created that motherfucker he's such a absolute I'm just gonna go and just I mean whatever he I. We do believe here, any concept of rehabilitation, and we do. We do believe at some point. You should be able to work yourself out of the citizens. you ve done in this life, so that you could move on and change and grusha around. Why would anyone changing grow ever? There's, no riga, there's no forgiveness, but ron miscarriages, dumb piece of shit read this book greatly. A ruthless is just sounds like a cut from grover's corn. Thank it says I am just a smote down sign balances, but it's the way he covers his own. son is interesting because it doesn't go haug now, inter ripping him to pieces. So behind it is isolated. Yes, land use. What sorted all think could run. All he wanted to do was play the fucking trumpet open and there was from from mount com. It's called mount com and the pronunciations with the car up front. It's that mark

now. This is in a town made out a candy. Ok, it's called mount gum com and it was mine and down people are workers most worked in the coal mines, the down like a little europe, my family was polish, but those also slovaks, medallions, irish, germans, julia potpourri of humanity, that'll sure it smell just like popery football whisking people lived and died by the fortunes of buys, quoting, that's healthy view on the mound gama football team. You could do no wrong! You could be got Robert a store. What is the point of all this would school of reporting you now invited knights of what is the point of the band and material aid? Is the mud down the street from eyes glued to the stadium and now turned out to tear them on a low and by ensuring fails to do after the game up people at down to attach the tutsi head? Bard restaurant tutsis? Is that some sort of scientology stronghold, your lawyer or our guns, royals, where we got our principles

yeah. But the thing is you remember when you're in this town now next to football, the only other thing that people in mount carmel respected was scientology. No music, sexy of a miter, saw a kid who plotted played an instrument being picked on he'd, say: hey, lay off that kid he's a musician I think, that's a lie by ron Miscavige because he played music and was picked on and wish that someone would defend it and when you none of you understand was that was life in the coal region, the values. I grew up with him. What I wanted to instill in my own children and for three of the four I think it worked out. Well, the values for the reality of the port authority. Yes, number four was one of the most dangerous caught leaders all the time to ever exist, but three out of the four then

turn up really was at any. By percent of my kids are not hyper dangerous international felons. Who do you want me to do what he wanted? The oh, so I dont know what morality tail he was trying to spank as it sounds like their preying on teenagers ay I to live their lives through their eyes once again and then inevitably the teenagers become the coal minors and then they want, all the other kids play football and there is a vicious cycle of alcoholism and sad news mean the american dream of David. Miss cabbage was a twin born April thirtieth nineteen, sixty woe, yeah we're both sources, wow good job, moving on he was born to loretta and wrong. Miss cabbage in the suburbs of new jersey, loretta was a recent nursing school.

Graduate enron? Was a marine vat turned cook where salesman, regular middle class, family sure, but well, most people handled the middle class struggle with a plum wrong was physically abusive towards his wife on a regular basis, and that comes from wrong. How dare you say that that is called aggressive learning. What had? I was taught in the marines yeah. That's what he said. He said ran his family like it was in the marines undress? Yes, it might have been harsh should die. Once you're married marine, always marine, especially when you haven't sex with your wife, will number one you are in the navy, so What are you for that and, second of all, your wife is a nurse and new silk cook where so, maybe you're, not there, the brains of the upper I'll, kill anybody within five from oh, you are more violent, though I see IRAN only partly takes responsibility for his abusive nature as an influence on his sons. Violent personality instead runs

that there must be some men David's dna, but makes him dominating vault vindictive psychopath that do not take any responsibility for that. No now cause I eat. Arguably, should these only half of it yet come on man three out of the four like it's, not baseball is battened point, seven, five nebulous phenomenal phenomenal, but when David misgiving was a boy, he was mostly defined by his extreme asthma, which is what brought the miscarriage family to scientology. See ron. Miss cavell was what you'd call as a born sucker me know, I was a marine until I was literally was born. A marine yep he'd, gotten pulled into a pyramid scheme called holiday, magic that sold fruit, scented cosmetics and distributed leaflets. That said that a salespeople, though not mourn, dune squire man, you are those Avon salespeople. Are they may be right?

I ended up and put in a game, so he was even dumber than the avon. Be yes, while he tee said that, like it seem like an no brainer, some people It was a pyramid scheme, but I just said it was an idea that didn't properly take off with a magic aid, is now taught in criminal justice courses as the most obvious pyramid scheme in modern history that enables the say it's more of a square business, wow holiday, magic holiday, magic guy smell and they still send, did make up fruit. Scented, make up cosmetics, What makes you smell like a cucumber barbara. This is really not oh yeah, oh you're, really, on that time of the month, you're going to want to smell like pineapple barbara, I guess you must have used all that makeup. That makes you smell like another man's comp whoa. This is amazing wow. This is like it is coming. That's just the mango moon where what's interesting about holiday magic is that it was bounded by the co owner of a company.

Called mind dynamics. Mind dynamics was an encounter group that was a part of the so called consciousness transformation movement and there too, mix of visualization and meditation have been closely compared to an way asked and, of course, scientology go? Yes, we, my parents, did a thing called kay em, which was a very bad your amid scheme that there were selling a nutritious liquid and tasted very, very bad, and we just marxism boxes and boxes that our house my parents even get a license plate the thames, great god of nutritious it was a bad. It was so if anyone knows about Kay em reach out canosa isolated at any rate in the mid west anna, what the hell was now and miss cabbage got immediately taken in by holiday, magics promise of an answer.

One hundred thousand dollar return on fruits and it cosmetics. Oh yeah, you get one hundred thousand dollars rate. He got that straight pitch and he's just like. We were like a woman. He met at a gas station, afraid of how would you to make another one hundred thousand dollars a year, and he literally said to me: oh my god, what a goober were him and three other quote: distributors formed a coat corporate tee. Regularly hosted quote opportunity, mediate triangle shade circumstance. I see this. like we live in the era of influencers india, that can be annoying, but this is the Oji influence, or this is worse. You actually had to go to their house eat out of their share top of where my mom lived, where you realized that you were just in way over your head and about to get scared and the only way to get out is to

mark a little box or a magazine to say: okay I'll buy it. My mom was an avon goon squad. Member and I remembered the piles of eva sitting at the house- and I remember my mommy like his pitches- don't know what look good immediately because she's got all this shit he's gotta move in this I want to stress they put under their personnel, I mean holiday. Magic was one of those pyramid schemes that truly was based completely on getting other people to buy into your odd network, a no brainer yeah, a no brainer. at this time of year, everyone's talking about making big changes, but sometimes the smallest changes to your team can make the biggest impact and you don't have to break the bank to make a big deal purchase even though Small, as things can be, a part of a big change. If it's something you use every day like re gods, whether you're look for a pair of everyday ear, but low latency game headphones or a speaker with the bad

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stand against the tide and keep my empire of blood flowing into the future as strong as verdant as ever for now? You, then you given therapy, try better help. It's a good option. It's convenient, flexible, affordable, entirely online disclosed a brief near to get match with the license therapists and switch their past any time for no additional charge again on blue, through four five therapist sweet, but each one spoke earlier than last one. Now, if you want live more empowered life therapy can get you their visit better help that calm slashed less pot, a ten percent off your first month. That's better health. H, e l, p, dot com, slash l, I s t p, o d, while at one of these opportunity meetings in the year of nineteen sixty nine ron, overheard a conversation being had by a fellow distributor named MIKE hess hess said that he got in

of than holiday magic because as a scientologists, he believed in experiencing everything as all scientologist billy and by everything he means every, including gideon, scammed pyramids, gay and yes, yes, irregular need to explore have bad, but you need to we'll be assigned, Oliginal J or hearing this statement. Wrong was, in a word, curious, using classic vague colt speak mike, has told wrong that scientology was about helping people become more able in life? Don't you want to be? Maybe I do want to moral taking a step further MIKE said this intelligence was more than just a philosopher, more than just a philosophy for what is it? It offers practical solutions to real world problem daisy. All you have to do is spent two hundred and seventy five dollars on this.

one thousand page handbook, these credits are no brainer, has claimed that if round became a scientologist, never gonna happen another aspirin again. Never gonna has taken ass night had taken aspirin again, maybe we'll probably about standards no brighter than we are and said tell me more mike said that the next time you get a headache, run here's what you gonna do: okay, you're, going to look in the mirror, yes and you're, going to give the guy in the mirror your head and give that guy. Your headache. That's me! That's the guy in the mirror, because it's really about the fact that your thoughts are

This the previously but let's say, gimme your beer, cops or lemme. Give you many letters. You got your. What am I going well beyond what about iraq start, giving Iraq's I'll give you a liquid death underwater prevaricator copyright as all your life, either in my language, oil mainly towards each is tricky and giving him all their minor lecture. Scientology I've been hearing so you're liquid death as almost married, minor, literary gathering, water transfer rockstar go to your feelings about what are your feelings about the winners of the superbowl like? What are your feelings about, I'm fine with, because the matter what the content, our new, only I asked you'd, I fuck with you right without any good gooding here your faults are europe's or drink. I guess with the real world hyper guess what this is your thoughts. You have to separate you and that's you right as you, but your thoughts are over here. That's over here, that's rocks are different liquid, but this separate liquid will have it all images discuss imams going to monitor this. That's reality. That's messed right. There we'll get a mess later, ok, we'll fantastic, so he went to separating.

Sesar right de compartmentalization is molly, went or logic from your brain. You look in the mirror. You give the headache to another person. Okay, if you want great Jordan, peel mirrors, perhaps it'll work, perhaps baronne said tried it a few days later and at work. It did not work where the placebo not it worked. He gave his headache to the man in the mirror and then, when he left the mirror, the man in the mirror disappeared and the headache disappeared. With that matches like what Michael Jackson and that's all it took to sell ron on scientology, that's it don well because, up to this point he was struggling with David, because the one thing he said is that when David was born, he said that the toddler was dreamily, absolutely strong eyes. While he said that David as a toddler was so physically strong, he could lift him up to the top of a door frame and then he'd let the toddler grab onto them.

or frame, and he let him go and that the toddler could pull himself up doing pull up. Ok nor framework zone hands like hezbollah, that's terrifying to lose that adult the things. I really do this until the, but then he get these asthma attacks and want to know what to do with these asthma attacks. Besides, like taken today don't get him. At any rate. You everything you, mrs true, he didn't want to deal with it. You know it so he would do stuff like on key with spanker bank We try to get him to stop doing the asthma attacks in that didn't work, and then he started doing this thing. We're heat he bomb where you been, they gave it up in his arms and take them into a cold shower and do that to get rid of his asthma attacks because he said He was in his mind ron thought that the asthma attacks he thought that were indeed were in David, had really answer. Then he started a thing where he said well, maybe in order to cure him of his ass. My tax, when I discovered, is everything I'm he's having one. I tell him to go into the grudge and lift weights, and this completely

we hold out for David, miss garbage would go out of the little boy like between five. benign and just live pop liar every single time, what he was having an asthma attack to blood flow on a little, but it is also probably why he's only five foot drake he's been jack seas of ice and you get. I don't think it normally beats asthma attack. No, I don't think so. I'm not really sure I don't know I'm not apologist, it might help the heart beat a little bit might might offset some. I feel I don't know if I heard somebody else do that technical. You have to call like the government right leg of yards of doing that to their trial. The call sepia we're not supposed to have a lift heavy weight said that age you get a little way. Its little bed place go away. You can live a little waits looked everywhere that it now, as I said, rob miss cavell was a fuckin rube.

But most people, especially when scientology was new. They needed a little more convincing to completely give themselves and their entire families over to the philosophy of a ruddy science fiction, author of middling success, just the smallest amount of more information. My word count, though he was the most successful writer of all time by thy amount of words written will to get this done. Scientologist followed what they called the four step: dissemination drill. First, you gotta make contact then after you made contact yes in a very telling directive, the scientologist had to immediately disarm any antagonism, be individual, might display toward scientology. Apart, you don't know anything what I'm ok! Well, this concept is still in full usage today in a scientology, add released on november twenty fifth, just a couple of months ago, David, miss cabbage himself appears and says this. Whenever you ve heard

if you haven't heard from off wearing that what you expect, with their different than what I expected up. That's their entire think as they know that everybody knows scientology scam. Everyone knows that, but that's too that they'd that now what they're doing is they're trying to play these guys he's mine games on a massive scale with were not what you expect an curious both playing at the same time and all religions needs persecuted for their own new phase. What ever of that knowing? Well now, show up- and you are, if you're already speaking to a member of scientology, you already probably a secret now right. You already are working for information, how it's easy to do good export debt. You stopped in your tracks and talk to them you're halfway there,

one has gone through a moment of low shirt and they didn't last a long time too. Oh yeah man, I mean I'll, go into scientology later on, but I'm sticking for management. I have to go straight to school. I want to jump in like they do with like military school yeah, and then you jump into the officer role. There's going to immediately make you the fall guy it's about, but at least I don't I'm not good enough with like quicken or like kind of like financial records like I would even let me near that so hopefully cause that's where they really get ya, bet man like when doing research, this I'll check it out the scientology website and they make it look really nice I mean that's the thing. Is it that's the word? I would choose just nice snake, you look! Nice meeting you nurse Jesus has Chris Pratt and scientology ass tom cruise. Who do you want to make

I mean I dunno I dunno I dunno either of those people appeal to different types with a third step in the dissemination drill is to quote, find the ruin which is identifying the problem. That's most on the mind of the potential recruit and ron Miscavige his case. It was his son's asthma problem. To that point. The recruiter then hooks the mark by promising that scientology is the answer. None of that answer is provided or, at the very least, dangled by immersing the recruit in the writings of l ron hubbard, whose life is presented as a grand adventure feature

tales of how he healed himself using the techniques that became scientology's. Foundational document dianetics bathed yourself in the words of l ron hubbard refers to wet herself on the tongue of l ron. Hubbard know. If you read it, I guess that's what it is that I have shane Morton my mentor and the the guy was the creative director for your pretty face is going to Hell. He always talks about you. Never want to get yourself into the rhythm of a cold That is what it is. All the more you read. The first fifties pages of the openings you up the romance ran everyone's favorite turtle. Lord, you do start to get into the cadence you get into a rhythm and then, when you know that You get glorious deaf on all the way, the whole and is a fantastic point, though, when you get that rhythm in them. guns, it was interesting. I was listening to some of these some and want a measure that that Andrew tate influence. Iraq gang and a lot of his defenders sound just like him.

We have a little bit more about nourishes very interesting to hear that kind of that kind of mimicking. What of there're super gotta They say that you're a fluent in a language, the first time that you dream in that language and its the same way with the cot leader. Once your thoughts, to memorize. Right way, they speak than your fuckin you're out on yeah, who recruits or told scientology will produce a civilization without insanity, without criminals, without war, were man can rise to greater heights, attain spiritual freedom and for one's own immortal? Do you want to live for that kind of additionally recruits are told that scientology works one hundred percent of the time. Well, that's great, but only when it is properly apply by a person who sincerely desires to prove their life. Chaos w keep scientology work going on about it. So if it fails, guess what you fail to be also a lot, does it fail? The text written

I know this deck is right in my yard, my god that guy vale read write a year agree. It's also the same base of an of thought, with neutral system, you're. The failure of failure. Failing jenny, Craig right now or put another way recruits, are told that scientology only works. If you give yourself over completely in question I mean that's how we got half the employees here, you're only one, that's general thing and so wrong. Miss cabbage figured that if scientology could cure his peddling headache that one time then maybe it could cure his sons extremely serious asma. I suppose a scientologist, just named frank, did cure a nine year old, David miscarriages asthma. After a single forty, five minute long session in francs. Back off these just met frank right. They just met frank Frank was the local scientologist, his other body? I guess

that mcu cheese, whatever the places of mecca macoutes, I'm I'll go like what the when he felt met him at Marco geez. He like all they do is fixed kids. Yeah he's like boom he's like scientology, bibs, zip, zap zap we're going to do this. We're gonna get it done, and then it probably would to a touch assessed, wedges legitimately a whole business. I ran in here, had a properly massage illness out of people and guess what you do start and, of course, you I always lay a strange nine year old boy down on a cot in the back room or your office, and you always want to needle him from the top of his butt to the top of his head and back and forth, and back and forth, and back and forth until he doesn't have asthma anymore, or at least until he says please, for the love of god,

I bet you old man, please stop touching me. I don't have asthma anymore I'll, say whatever it takes to assist you in not touching me. I think I may have met a franker to live, but from what ron Miscavige said, his son never had a serious asthma attack ever again. This is, of course, a lot or its. At the very least, a massaging of the truth it's important note that run. Miss cabbage remains an ardent believer in hubbard vision of scientology he's left scientology, but he still believes in scientology. He believes that his son ruined everything, but he still thinks that the that is a hundred percent real time fair. It's like when your kid takes over your like. I know you will now also it would be very difficult to just fine

Oh your child, as he's got one. He just let it all go in egg, but yes, the book, as they still deeply hard time, letting go of our outrage. Nato, but nevertheless, this supposed curing of his sons, asthma, was enough to convince run and his wife to give their lives over completely to the church. Now, at this point, scientologists existence. Nineteen, seventy to one of the churches, main strongholds was till in england, which is still owned by scientology and scientology does still consider it a wholly site, I'm actually one of the holy sites and scientologist. Probably Two people work narrowly narrowly guy, but that's it like the guy outside keeping people out and then the didn't die on the inside. A guess, sweeping baronne, yeah well suppose Lee a chosen wing of Saint hill was Tom cruises lockdown sanctuary during the height of corona virus, David Misgave issue sang out there met

misty, whose belt buckle was higher than the other is a bad eyes Tom cruise taller than david misguided and we're towers over amanda tower. Not not. Ours is a three inches we remind you. Is it on ruses, five or six right, I would say five five. My fine, ok, we're labour eels David miscarriages, five, three, the heights of fought for four five and five four five one inch is tower. If you said that's how it is, it just gets more people math, okay, this is also ST. This is also were hubbard, did his infamous tomato experiment. I buried met for those in which he audited tomatoes and took readings of their well being using an amiot are, and I want you to keep that mine here in a bet when we go through auditing but by nineteen. Seventy two: scientology and scientologists were banned in england, so anyone travelling to saint hill had to

mobile their eaters and their l run upward novels, like they were trying to sneak drugs over the border. Mrs, what you really can't ban things, because it makes it too cool. Now, that's the idea now to go cover with it. It's gay makes the religious stronger in contraband night is, but despite england's hostility towards their beliefs, ron miss cavell looking to rapidly progressed his family through the church, he pulled his kids out of school and move the entire family ass the ocean to saint hill for fifteen month. Just think about the thing about the fact that he'd just met a man named Frank who gave his head ache to a man in the mirror, man massage the butt of his son until he stopped fake sneezing anymore. Now, you're gonna move the entire family to england from mount com so that you can have them all directly in the bosom of a brand new religion. Yes, if you england, where your religion is illegal, isn't it possible that mount com,

How dare you dip run hermia. Maybe you with your town sucks when you want any reason to get out of it no longer with scientology. would you like to watch the pilot, and I wanted to please trumpet we didn't anywhere, but I told you remember I mean scientology is actually above synonym when it comes to jazz musicians. Scientology is full of jazz musicians, check korea check career number one to career the eye, and I member the scientology jazz record that we play during our innocent pricing. Good. Let the interesting with jazz. Is it's all about editing but scientology eyes? It's written! It's not at all edited it's about the notes. You die. You're gonna be editing in their my editing in their mind. Yes, inside out all about letting go no at its most of the time jazz is about letting go no edits. I know this. I watch the can,

This documentary on as and it's about the notes you don't play yeah I like it. What is backward? savage yeah, then it is their words. Just not the notes you shouldn't play now. At this point, David, miss cabbage and its twin sister Denise were twelve years old and within a year of arriving at Saint hill, both of them were orders the youngest auditors and scientists. he hissed or no. Now, for those who don't know, let's briefly go through what auditing entails when it is just so, you can decide for yourself whether or not a thirteen year old is up to this task. I can't even imagined sitting as an adult male across raw materials in your old, the the crew, incisive so brutal, so brutal with the theory of auditing, is that locates and discharges Minto masses that are blocking the free flow.

Of good energy. Thank you for finally putting in a way that makes sense, but according to hubbard ideas and fantasies, have physical weight and solidity and the route themselves in the mine, ass, phobias and obsession unless fears your obsessions yeah, those have Those are physical, others, their barrow, but you remember their separate right cause your your liquid death right, your fears repression of the rock star right, but we gotta get rid of the rocks are because without doing its poisoning you're whatever toward the little only I got it by talking through these fear knows that I know I'm drinking out of a water berger mug of bet, yeah, it's so it's a water, burger style, mug, we're not in texas right now, by talking by talking, through these fears and obsessions in an auditing session, with a trained sign the logical order to guide you, these mental masses are broken up and purged clear, not a drain got you, I mean you know. You do feel wade's when you're depressed store. You know an anxious it does

You know like? Oh, like a way to to weight, has lifted off my chest: a weight lifted off my shoulders. These are things that we're we're used to hearing. You know like that's it. That is the thing about scientology. It takes that little that you do have some relation to and blows out some huge. Then you also understood, but there are certain things right, because most human beings immediately feel better. When you said talk about yourself, So that's one thing kind of like how they say you know: what's actually yes, you're addicted to the nicotine with cigarettes, but the relaxation part of it is the act of taking a deep breath, which is what we don't do as often in america in society, Marcus can't breathe. I can't breathe related reasons, but I can't breathe with what they do. Is they put the cans in your hand of the e meter, and then it jumps back and forth and then what they do is infer meanings to the jumps in the e meter, from the words that you say, but even the

immediate technology means nothing. What that's just go I'll just go with the tarot cards or cards better than the emi meters. Stuff was invented by a guy named vole ne matheson that did elrond took it from yeah and again it's just it's just charges that just crunches bounces well, this is the meter is how they sell scientology as science right the meter, it's a little machine that measures, those negative mental masses that I was talking about. I have one headed to my house and he made her really oh we're getting this whole fucking. ship. Why? My finance dynastic with these masses are detected by little sticks held by the other? the oddity by the way is called a pre, clear debt that frank yeah. I got a pre clear. The pre come of scientology reckon can still get pregnant loop. Anthony.

It moves the right, while the pre clear is holding the sticks. The resistance is rising, which is bad, oh, but if it moves to left, the resistance is falling, which is good good our worse. This is what the scientologists who haunted the train station at forty second and aids and hat and that they were trying to get you to sit down and do the whole report banality testing their way they wanted you to sit down hold the sticks. The needle goes are all over the place. They say, while buddy you need to come in for some yeah, I'm in a new york city, subway station, I'm a little fucking stretch already do they. They have a personality test when they say a bunch of things to you and they will see meter until, like, let's say, like you're talking about like whenever, Bobby and then like on the word? the immediate jobs and there like, what's about what's with groups what I've got it is a thing. What is it about? Brooms that you don't like what is about is that you are like being affected by. I mean honestly. That does make me think of the

old wives tale that people used to jump off the refrigerator with a broomstick in their ass and then they would die. What I remember that high, the book are you not notified or no one values? Just you know. I think it is a story that did happen. This did happened. Somebody we covered. I will never have annulment yet, but it's not an old. Why? I don't think you never actually happened. It always was was when I was a child. Was homophobic off fridge with broom, ass and economics room death- this is from snoops did a co at died. It says here it's a legend, turning to snowplow card greatly. Scourges of our masturbating, with a bright with a murmur, went all the way to stoves it's a light arrives hid in the eighties like ball. Bunyan is loading it. The pre clear, gives an answer during auditing. That

If the needle jumped to the right and then the subject about my answer becomes an area of concentration. I can reset you say broom. It jumps all let's concentrate on brooms, but the thing is about that. Is the auditors just going to fucking hammer away at the subject until they find something, because you can keep playing word association until you find a bad feeling, but then the auditor keeps hammering until they're, satisfied that they've drained the pre clear of the Will he experience or feeling? Basically you talk about it until you feel better again. All right, I admitted I indeed have not seen a broomstick. I have not shoved up my ass yeah. I enjoy it all clear. This is also where overt and with holds come and apply. We're gonna get little bit more terminology here, god just keep your fuckin hats on we ever most of these books come with the glossary that we should put out. Will you put out? One of our glossary is that people can get more science illogical terms in their ads. We ve had our team build a pretty goddamn good glossary force over the course of this serious. It isn't that also a component of the search and the fun aspect of it. Turn right begins,

That would mean the end of the idea of when you get all your taken with the ultimate torture of scientologist, which is about the misuse of words now facing an m. You is one of the worst things that you can do in scientology in Europe who are supposed to travel every with a dictionary in your pocket. Why amiss use that's an interminable its miss its remiss doing a word is missing or misunderstanding of urban and suburban bad happening in a pre clears life than it was because they done something bad. That does the least good for the least number of people or the most harm to the greatest number of people. They have committed an overt while they actually get a third heart like dick cheney, that's ok! But if they didn't admit to the overt immediately, they were then committing a withhold which is keeping a secret

and that with hold combined with the overt that's, what's causing your unhappiness. Yet not your body is not the way that she bore and all the things that you ve done. Ok, you're clam now and you may clam problems back when you were a clam. So now you're suffer from your clam problem, It's so it's because they did something wrong, they're, not acknowledging it. Then I dream is to fix it, so there upset. I don't think this is based Well before you understand it's, not even you, what's your phaetons inside of you would eventually have to figure out how to talk to your phaetons and release those overt and withhold from your phaetons inside of you Well, I'm actually going to go catch. My train, I've been great to be your one. Stop I'm happy! I stopped for free snack. He has a subway giant. I am stressed. I've got to get the fucking fifty four street and I'm going to buy it in

Your mob of santa claus is because it was acting on hubbard view. Overt and withholds were the sole reason for all bad conditions and experiences. So constantly purging oneself of all overton withholds was a necessary part of the auditing process. This, of course, is how scientology collects blackmail. As you say, all of this shit, you don't understand that its kept your K ardently sir going into o t and then all the shit shit you said before comes up again, that gotta re release it all again, and could you explain what k are again into the answers that basically it's just our every secret? You tell them goes into a file and they keep at your ethics file. In your case, You ever want to try to sound professional or just try to sound professional and stream. difficult. So what he d write me use periods third of sentences. It seems. Professionals, perfunctory rages, delivers the message an information and you walk away from it with

so when you leave a period would be like we'll talk this the meeting next week period right, you send it to somebody what times and sounds like you're about to read them the filth, which is why you need grammar early night because comes to work. Communication is key, even We have a quarter of all writing job, because all jobs require writing unless you're mine graham, premiums advanced tones suggestions, help you communicate confidently and refrain your words to be more positive and productive rights makes you say like he's, isn't that fun in G will occur as a key. Our way for the deposition, We frame negative language. Jimmy more solution focused you can better collaborate with your team, coworkers and clients. When a come over there and kill your family exclamation point I'm gonna come over and kill your family teams. Q seems fun the right could move any project for when you get it just right would gradually

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to emancipate, a person from yeah, and I think they're, pretty persistent yeah the whole biological thing and if you're still all fucked up with your mest, then your pre clear, but if, through auditing, you cleanse yourself of your mest, your obsessions, your fears, irrational urges you will then, and only then become clear. That's why going clear means. I guess if this is the it's just. If it ended, ere, I value the medics was we cover that neil territories, dynamic It was getting you clear and then released within our age, understood I mean bring him back away. My back in and when you do, is you turn it into a spirituality? You crazy idea, phaetons an o t once you get past clear, the o t The walls are all about doing all of these same prices, but with the little ghosts alive inside of you, because really isn't this this is just day. It's just got a little props, but it's just the same.

catholicism more even made up like completely totally just fictional enabled certain things have a placebo like a factor, but then the rest of it. Just absolute arcane, gob, garbage and fuckin like full, punishment systems? Yes! Well, it does help when you did something wrong and you want to like talk to somebody about it and all those things. But then catholicism is like, and now you've got to go down this road evangelicalism takes you down that whatever power and then here they're just wanted to sell you more books and stuff yeah, they were excited. I mean the difference is that you could technically be a catholic and never pay a dime, your entire life, and you still get the catholic experience. No do you got I mean I've got a thousand honest, I'm telling you. I was like oh yeah, it's like when you go into the when those restaurants, words like it's free donation, only, you don't tip and you get a sandwich. My friend people are gonna athletes really want. You are going to judge, but you could still do it for free. You can count on. You could still do a truthfully. Catholics, don't watch it not really want to captain bill c christians want you, re catholics think that none of you are

now the only people who are good enough or the pedophiles. We put super the uniforms they're really powerful, really powerful evangelicals you better fucking tip yeah the better, but as far as David Miscavige has wunderkind status and scientology went, he was made an auditor at thirteen all that shit that we just talked about. He was thirteen years old with all that power in his in his hands he was clear by the age of fifty eight, even though there was a lot of people trying to stop him from being clear. There are several people saying, like his reports, are actually coming back like highly disturbed and narrow, like one guy, actually wonder straight up like blow they wanted to get rid of where we now we're gonna get to that here in a sack. We're gonna get that full story, but this serve to instil in David the eye dear that he was an incredibly special person in an incredibly special group, but David also had obvious emotion

providing seem so calm put together according to one former scientologist named everard scott, who is tasked with watching over david when David was a young teenager, David apparently had episodes caused by what they called asthmatic seizures, which, if true means that David miss cabbage had both asthma and epilepsy seem. So this probably isn't true. No from what it sounds. David miss cabbage may have simply been emotionally disturbed and violent from a fairly young, a everytime. I saw the word asthmatic seizure. I now understood they meant weird temper tantrum. Yes, ever scott was told that, when David had in episode do not touch him, because David gets very violent and beats the hell idea. If you do touch him snow, those healthy. He was like this out, the pussy. Why was sir?

happen and hidden and was a little thought. I'd or not. We use a tyrant. Tasmanian devil is a familiar problem, but feel bad for the little twin there who had to share the womb used out. You can use it. Scott also bird, that when he was watching over David, he saw the kid take off his shirt in preparation for a shower, so that David was so bizarre early and disturbingly bow. Then he looked like a thirteen year old. Arnold Schwartz was here. He was like a cut child yeah. That's disturbing s! Little hired a cut five foot. two child little hercules yeah, but that kid oh yeah, I remember and very creepy, he's devastated now yup. Now, every scott was one of the first people to notice that there was something wrong with young david Miscavige, despite being held up as an expert auditor at thirteen David didn't seem to know how to audit and even said the auditing was for weaklings, because he was already clear from a past life

He understood the game immediately. Yes, where he's just like you see I've visions of a past life just like AL. Rage dead, ellery drivers, the van remember when he went through the was the radiation belts around the moon. The way we send his mind there he sent his mind is the past. He immediately was just saying that sub fifteen years I will actually I looked into my past and I've. I've been clear and they're like as incredible as it gets amazing days, a brilliant little sociopath, okay, but every scot he wasn't buying it. He filed, what's known as a knowledge report against David, but it seems like someone had a vested interest in David's advancement sunset. They needed under kint up Lay the scientology magazine was writing an article about the youngest arbiter in history. Little davy, miss cabbage and Scott was simply complicating matters. Oh yeah he's getting in the way of history. My friend, it's kind like how lebron james was like

Today very I get like fifteen years older he's gonna be the king, a sports. They did it with David, miss garbage with their like. He is the guy and and its we're cause. You had a bunch of other guys, we're her very much sure they were the guy. I did all of a a fifteen year old shows up and he's terrifying everybody believing it leubronn made a pick him, because The best he was known as we are aware of all the areas he played in, but I wonder if miss cabbage truly was the best one. best to play in the game and scientology high tech. So what I see it, as is that, instead of somebody like, I, don't think he was kind of anointed, I think he was picked as a guy. Yeah. I think those are ok. We need like a baboon. Nor can we need like some sort of prodigy here that kid seems, like you knows, what's going He knows the lingo. He knows how to walk the walk, so let's bring em up and see what he does and they then they didn't realize that they had picked a monster workers. Also, all the arrest of his brothers and sisters got moved to go to

the fee on feed time scientology instructions when they go to do a full scientology school. The rest of them are like. I wish I was in cool like this is real. I don't wanna, be here David, just John Dene yeah just got it from the second than he arrived at, say now. Nevertheless, edvard got continued filing knowledge reports on David, miss cabbage to the ethics office, because he was all Strangely massage monistic little boy aware he'd say, like god, damned these goddamn rods. They don't belong in cr. They do that audit. These sluts don't know how to break me down. He was intense there. I remembered that he said that one of the shocking things he thought one of the things When scientology, they teach you a lot. Then, and then they do super abstract with their like now build the lesson that we just taught you but represented in play. you go when you take all the things you ve learned was to make a list, and then they watch David as a fifteen year old walked down. Ishmael falk flock fought like

want to know he table a bitter sitting, you're, making clay figure you trying to make up trying to represent the fake shit that they all just got out, and then he understood I just fucking put all of these people nor plates but he loves me for it on the lily. Well, maybe they were making the best clay products. Were they obviously some really let there be in suppressing? Yes, that's the thing whenever scott was called into the ethics office to discuss all of these knowledge reports, he thought finally finally have got through to somebody. They brought him in and said you, sir Your interview, lading david, miss capua, violating I'm a turbulent here in turbulent. I don't even know what I mean. We would understand how I could be interpreted. You better put your dictionary and find out now get out of. You won their guess. What you wouldn't vine internally yeah right along hubbard created. The word

in turbulent and a means to upset some one to impede some. I mean I loved the word Ebby on. I actually talk about real, relate as a great word, you're interrelated me, and I'm not ready and stay out my backing to sit here and take that interrelation. From your credit we can add, it worries me they're all made up. Of course, regulation will take it, but instead of backing down scott, he stood by his guns. He said this kid: is Anne S, p a support, the person lower thing, but a scientologist can call another scientologists bay. Don't use that word lightly, especially not nineteen. Seventy six loud something he's really in turbulent while they said that David, miss cabbage was actually out side. Listening to ever. I assure you, I am sure you, but when he used the word s p, like David, miss cabbage was smart enough to know I gotta back off from the sky. I have got to let this guy I've gotta put as much distance

between me and this guy, as I possibly can fifteen at bay, and so David miss cabbage, just disengaged and kept I mean the scientology ladder on inter belated. It's us smart decision by sixteen David was done with secular life. He announced that he wanted to devote his life to our on hubbard technic, it makes David Miscavige a high school dropout. Most of them were most of the heads of scientology were high school dropouts because they didn't believe in high school. Well, I mean so as kanye and he's fine I am a self educated, but as far as David was concerned, he was on to greater things because in nineteen seventy six

he joined sea org or come on board there. It is also, I believe, college dropout was the reference for trying to make. Thank you, but now he's in c york, yeah. Basically, sea org is like the vatican of scientology, where the yeah it's where the highest ranking member serve and that's where they make the decisions that affect every scientologist. It's also where they make the decisions that affect non scientologists, also get on it. Sure, but years, because some people like it used to be the elite and then turned into those that work the hardest to turn into our free labour like world and then that got bump down to the rpf. Who then see org became like it strange? Could they both are like the most slave I think members of scientology were the also the high rankings of those they're, both like the lowest class and the highest class, all in one well, it's basically that is where sea org is. Where scientology truly becomes a cult.

Ok. Now I even outside it like all them, it's what I tell you near contract as yet all the fuckin scientologists that are coming in and out of celebrity centres here and allay that are pan their money to get pretty clear new they're. Not even they don't no they're, not even a part of scientology, not really there just fuckin. They have subscriptions, get your butts in seat snap, but the people and see org air in accounts, woods in our p rpf, don't even louder member with this need. Overall mines, albanian bush jewess must receive the same salary. Why? God? Damn nazi? It's a naval answer. No answer will move nazi org bay. A naval organization, but not every

in sea. Org necessarily has to take place on a boat, although boating is certainly a part of sea or okay boating lifestyle, because once the boat became permanently, I'm not going to say ground, Did I say that, because the bow use begone flag right, then it's got parked in front of the clear or why organism, building roads, war now fly link with it flat. Partly there's this there. I didn't, like it. Move it any more because they don't have enough people to like man at any morgan's in giant massive cities where Yang wrote, yeah yeah, so sea org is a frame of mind much later. How hats moderator bill is in place. It's an idea. Yes, it's a thought virus. Now, once David miss cavell drop out of high school, he was sent The clear water florida yet global headquarters of scientology, one of the most bizarre places of air.

Ben and my life are welcome when you go to the debt scientology headquarters. Like you know, when you feel a bit is empty. Yes, I feel like the headquarters are completely empty. You feel, like everyone, that's on the property is outside watching everybody. That's walk bets looking at the headquarters from across the sky, Where tiny follow you do your car, I was a nice place to get that. Can a courtesy was on the channel growing but scientology or learn a lot about. How long would be centres now drew truly, probably have like two or three people working in the dim, wow There is clear water. David was named a member of the Commodore messenger organization, c m o, which is a bizarre paramilitary wing of sea, or that was at this point made up of terrifying children. huh, oh yeah, because in our age understood that the kids are the future and you got indoctrinate m while their children get him in at noon. Yes, and yes was a lie, of the commodore best little girls.

Putting clothes on the l h because he didn't have the proper dexterity of his fingers anymore, because he was dying of various. You know like I think he had the most advanced case of doubt anyone's iraqi gives phantom to eat. Phantom toes, you did not know where he is on. His fingers did work so you'd have them, dress him and stuff like that now there, but he was in a squeeze or I don't think you didn't need liquor touch her at all, not thanks outermost, not from our episodes that anyone can tell ok. Well, that's it that's a benefit that is good or bad ago. While I beat our on two key. Was it he said very explicit, with the commodore as messenger organization, he was very Inspired by hitler. Would you let us treat us all? I'm saying is one: we separate the art from the time has not been caught. hitler yeah we'll does does to go boss. Does the clothes

but political affiliation haven't political affiliation will take the style, not the substance. That's right Yeah I run ron did say like Hitler was mad man, man Every time a mad man has a bream half of it's great yeah, and he said the hitler. Youth was the best idea that hitler ever came up with, because you have a blank slate on which you can write anything will truly, they were all part of it too. You are just shove. Dryden there, too, after a year in clear water, David, miss cavell was transferred to a scientology base in le keen to California called sinner org, which is where El Ron hovered himself was hiding in the last stages of his life, trying to make movies. Yet the golden era production studios. Interesting though there were about seventy p on the lookin to base, but everyone there was working towards making movies under our age is direction quite quickly. David, miss cabbage rose to the rank of chiefs,

Natasha prefer wow and by eighteen. Miss cabbage was sitting at the right hand of his religions founder and sometimes about physical distance wanna get to talk about. Like you know, one thing people are missing like it's. You gotta jumpin, when these decisions are being made of your looking to take over whatever crooked org position that you're in right now? You want to be number one and you're sick of bees, number eight. Would you gotta do is vital we're number one eat lunch or what number one likes to do as a hobby, and then you just keep being there now with number one could eventually what happens with the number one they get dementia police or come under arrest up and get all the control. This pressure. Eventually they get arrested, give europe stand in the room. Now, sometimes you can become number two just because it's like you're charged out all my. I just pick up the phone when I conference yeah, don't expect many things going in your favor if you're not in the room, if you're not with the decision makers, I'm limited,

I don't care, but sometimes all it really takes is just you saying, alright you're the first one to say that after everything falls apart, you're the first one say like alright: here's where we're going to do, and then all of a sudden you're in charge of scientology for the next forty years, yeah seriously, but we're right. Underneath David, miss cabbage at sinnott. Work was one of the men who would eventually be in David's inner circle and would also later become scientology, most high profile defector. This was where David miss cabbage. met mike lying there, you're gonna bet my line. Reiner use another one of those guys used to ride he's come he's done horrible things, but we must forgive LISA and is trying to make a man. I agree, I agree is the guy for myself

intelligent movie at all, do now other reenactments, if that guy, you might be thinking of that, are going on in all wrong. I know what you're saying you know: I'm out marty, bunyan marty, jude nato, morty marty, wrath body wrath, but yeah thanks and a little bit more about mike renders this guy who's with legal remedy. Yeah yeah, you could dare replace Kevin Jane. I so much no sir, not my king of queens. Now mike grinders parents were early adopters of scientology. They joined in nineteen fifty nine in Austria, well yeah through a neighbor who regularly drove the five hundred miles from adelaide to melbourne, to hear dianetics lectures from hubbard himself, who mike was just five years old when his parents join, but by the time he was six, he was already being dropped off at the local scientology centre for indoctrination seminars called

children's communication courses, at least they got to go to school. The other kids in the united states had to be put on. The ranch was the scientology's version of the troubled teen industry, where they just had to pull weeds because Allah rage setting it gets you closer to messed yeah. Okay, here at these children's communications courses, children were taught a drill called bull baiting, which is somewhat similar to the game that we discussed in our sin. An episode, bull baiting was meant to help auditors control their reactions to anything that might be said encounter concessions. If a conflict were to break out, then conflict by the way, that's called a fire fight and assign told you in the psychology terminology has got a fun yet firefight and additionally, bull baiting also train kids and adults to rid themselves of any impulse to flinch in the face of intimidation out in the real world, because it intelligence, they were going to be met with resistance, oh yeah, without being about being a motionless. They want

the be able to control your reactions and invariably not question things that you are taught young kids would be verbally and sometimes physically assaulted. Until quote the button flat. That means that the student no longer reacted in any way to the coaches provocation. You gotta keep pressing the button pressing the button pressing the button until the button disappears, I gather he's daban with the old nintendo, the old nintendo button. Depressive. Do I would get see saga about. I try and four because that ended your afternoon and there wasn't goods. You wanted a button to be up you to stick the button, though, and then it's all done when rangers reading bull baiting mostly serve to habituate children to future verbal and physical abuse. You can be screamed at and screamed at and screamed at and you're not going to react. Okay now, like england, australia also outlawed scientology in the mid sixties, saying that it was a d

regional belief system based on fictions and fallacies, propagated by falsehood and deception handling ice, even though they put their all sign up about being watching out for drop, bears australia's, always lie a wall of bears government again against the banning, but, as it often goes in situations like this, the perceived persecution made fast these, like my grinders believed that they were doing something important exact, I e it they're telling me, I'm wrong. I must be right because I've been told that I'm going to be told that I'm wrong. So I'm right, hubbard's right my auditor's right- and this is indeed a fallen world. I mean they are correct again. The biggest mistake they made was banned in this. Damn process will begin, but finally we didn't ban it, and this is where the stronghold, as I mean, what we're doing an episode of exactly right. Literally, it's also been shot on all over the place in amerika tat. It does not the same cachet. But it's what you do. It's easy. It's kind of a detour

with em and journalism. Amend in christianity, too, were if you go and your taught that what you do is special yeah and that other people are going to have an adverse reactions, because there now Did you hear about it and I only for it, but then they are an enemy under an enemy and then you go and you try to bring somebody in and they do have a weird reaction to it and then with the yes, you do then feel isolated, but then, when you go back to your home group bay all are super happy to see you and it helps double you down, I have. The organisation is well same thing with you and your your words other verbiage, like you, eventually get so blink drowned and you could so poverty. Not all of the terms now that you spoke to sound like a crazy person. When you talk to me, you communicate with any one may learn a little more isolated. You do get some people and their eyes called a friend group,

Many people did you really need to know, and so the writers kept giving money to the church and they kept raising their kids as scientologists and what's mike was old enough. He to join, see org and found himself working under David, miss cabbage at sinner, org, making bird movies that just I was rather a gentle video. They are all rather work on rust, yeah. we would rather work on it now had not imagine just l run hubbard if I What about about showed up to set unrest, I would show up with a fuckin bullet prevents be like fuck. All of you were doing this bit until this movie stars.

Not render remembers miss cavell, was a brash, inflexible, vindictive aggressively competitive bully, who berated his subordinates reiner included, but miss cabbage was also already designated as a so called rocket within the church, meaning that he'd been tap as a special person deston first great thank whilst this was just right out of the gate at the sky was supposed to be. The man, however, David almost fucked up his entire trajectory when he decided to lighten the mood around since org by filming skit, to give to allow right. Ok I know we don't know we can find out what the skiff was you. How would you have me now? I know what it s like: uh, yeah I'd funding on readily. Nobody has said what the skin is, because I mean at this point like iran was reaching the end of its life. Things were going particularly well. The mood surrounding it was pretty,

dont use our legs. Seventy early eighties. I could see that so David, miss cabbage, this weird little psychopath thinks it's time for some skits in bits. I have two fuckin know what I wish I could find it. I couldn't find it man. We have no clue what it was a large didn't like I know he didn't lie, I'm pretty assume it must have involved some form of impression and maybe a little bit of arose yeah, because our age did not react in a way that he thought and that he will only man demanded to know the names of the people involved, and I don't like that. Literally it almost got derailed by a bad company is get as it only. The only way that miss cavell was able to get his ass out of the ringer was to completely renovate one of our age is houses. He had to rid every single bit of fiberglass in the entire structure, because our age claimed to be allergic to fight

glass, but that got him back in wow that Israel's that's his love. Language is active services, while that is we mean when we do something bad. you just gotta move eyes nor now, but to do a whole renovation. This apparent ingratiated miss cabbage to our age considerably, because in nineteen eighty, when our age finished his most famous novel, battlefield earth leverage- it's all about miss cabbage- was heavily involved in the process of adapting the novel to film. I don't you know what the ill will arrange. It are realised Film is not his strong suit. Me, don't know well, today We know battlefield earth is one of the worst movies ever made. John Travolta biggest misstep, but, what's lesser known, is that John Travolta has actually been attached to this project. Since teen eighty, why? That's amazing and you go back and you do watch it with friends, it's kind of fun. Oh yeah, didn't! I think that again, John Travolta, much like the other when he was in that for a day

movie horrible, but the choices that he makes as an actor in both films, Secondly, it was even every time hang elvis movie. Anyone know enlivened dislike did I would still like. I can't believe there. Let me do. just like that power to just while on everyone's like tat, incredible, lay haven't you like about grimness. Droughts are incredible anna rodriguez stars in a new comedy, not dead. Yet she plays a young woman desperate to get her life on track after a messy break up. She returned, sir, a job as a journalist, but this time the only position available was an obituary writer withheld from her friends, coworkers and some of the dead people she writes about. She's rewriting her story and one step closer to getting it together, not dead. Yet Is there any thirty, seven, thirty central on a b c and stream on hulu radio,

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A list of potential celebrity recruits for members to go after who, who, interestingly this list, included both bob hope and Jackie gleason. Oh two men who, in the years since have been revealed as believers in the alien phenomenon, is that we are because you know jack gleason said that human Nixon went to aid undisclosed, location, look at an alien body together that must have been real smoke, he and forty oval asking permission, because you probably couldn't see their summer smog. You can't see within their that looks like a cigar, you of all your smoking, a cigar I am eyes or to allow the air, but when recruiting establish celebrities when that didn't really work out nobody was recruited not initially not initially. Scientologist tried a different tack. We gotta catch him on the way up the ira.

are the scientology body I want. I once went to, and it was them. It was a group of people getting a lot of work you had so many fuckin share is right. There you begin to open that mouth was the difference between a cock and a hot dog nuts what's the difference being scientologists did Satan is not that it is ready to tackle of rank you're. The best salesmen I've ever met about what to do with my mouth. The differences in a bucket and film career with women. Don't tell me I there's a lot of dixon prohibition is such that we wouldn't be witnesses. We will be in this room, we wouldn't be. I got some too. It's called a tooth basis. Called toothbrush, use it much simpler for kids Numa, what a dick with a clean mouth and there's no way. They would frank, oh no, as your dirty mouth afterwards. Why? Don't you just go cure that other little boy? That boy is corey, feldman

yeah. I think he's going to make her way back when the recruiters were placed outside of central casting to pass out. Fires for workshops quote unquote, workshops on how to find an agent or how to get into the screen actors- gill, oh man. So if you want to find desperate people, that's where you got a corner and the answer to those questions. Scientology as only way brow yeah because that's their fronts, you know, like someone shows up thinking like get an agent by the end of the week and no near just getting to be a scientologists one debate, an irish catholic girls who just go watch you to all the time when they're alive been. You know what it is, but technically it boils down to the way hollywood does work and anyone who you know so people that get involved in dinner in on the game, the easier it is, and then it's not just scientology. It's the connection.

within scientology that gets you through, and then you find out they're certain somebody centers or ccs that you can or cannot go to like you find out that, like the l, a big celebrity center, the one that's been the fancy mansion on franklin eventually becomes only certain members can come here because now that so many people are showing up would screenplays in shit that there are like, while you know, really make the cock, we need you, a body were beast dog trainers actually coming, and today I am he's gonna need this see. Thank you. I'm sorry. I think you know it's a lanyard based culture, oh yeah, you're at having right, lanyard yeah. I know the big guys they get go the celebrity sinner. Everyone else has to go to magnolia neural can yet across the street from the gulf station yeah yeah yeah. The welcoming sent to this end about sort away. This is how scientology got John travolta in nineteen. Sixty nine travolta was in mexico, making his first film. That was fun.

The ball of madness. Called the devil's rang. Fuckin amazing, so goes our earnest borg. Nine is earnest boarding. We're lover watch it again, because that was the scary die ever what you want. It is very easy to you is that he didn't like how much the devil was involved, because it was the only movie that anthem that they actually served as a technical consulted on four satanism moron like you, showed on my guard honestly, poor earnest board. Nine he's got his eyebrows or do big. We actually played some clips from the devil's rain on the stream. I remember well guess what streams come and bad february twenty first, twenty twenty three, but on the set at the devil's rain, Travolta became friends with an actress. Dancer and about scientologists named joan proffer, travolta confided that he was suffering from depression and in some show of sleep george I supposed to do.

deliberations that knows anything about the closet, sexuality. No, not at all. Do you love musical theater, which isn't necessarily the whole gay I won against in the cards. The want to be you ain't playing, while all the music sucker really did you won't come out before we cargan ours is so prompter shared the isle of her Raw emotions have been smoothed out by a philosophy called scientology, proper lint travolta, a copy of dynamics down in mexico. To claim it scared mind some are not cured, helped with minds May I read put about by reprieves: would you believe Mr Cobb sleep? Why was the little dog in a pile of sunshine? And that means we need to start worshipping gulf because the golden puts european entering my I know. So when travel

return to allay he started taking scientology courses during one class he told the teacher he's got a big audition commoner, welcome back caught her eye that you are not as they like. That is a big audition and that would of course, become john travel to break out, wrote, benny, barber, reno, sweat ha, that's it gets show, but because travolta was nervous about the audition, the teacher in his scientology class, told everyone in attendance to point in the direction of the abc studios and telepathic glee communicate a message. We want John Travolta. For the part we want jobs, travolta for the part, that's good, vibes, good, vibes to a b c, it's great thoughts and prayers. That always was sure and as it went, John came to the next class with part in hand and within just a couple of years

Volta would be the world's most famous scientologist, the churches. First big celebrity get wow. Now in the battlefield, earth movie was being discussed in nineteen. Eighty john Travolta star was already what on the wane after the massive success both saturday night fever in greece, but the executive director of scientology bill francs still thought that travolta was right for the lead to mean it was he's the guys, the nine once I enjoy the israeli that libraries used to be able to not, I dont think that they wanted to, but they would decide here. Don't you had in what way does generalised anymore either nicholson lives all up and isolated mansion on the top of my whole and drive. He is just there by been maiden fuckin partridge farms. And hanging out with the women that hires to sit there and what jimmy damage, hot nurse, LU, LU, stay hercules, nurses,

and yeah. Some of them have their tops off or the executive director of scientology. As I said, bill franks, he thought the travolta was right for the lead. Franks was also the person supposedly in possession of all the auditing records in which John Travolta spoke about his struggles with his own sex, Well, would you believe I look gay that said the balls enough that they can em like the boobies, the bets? Okay, no one! Actually, that's fine! You you're allowed to be gay. You can be gay if, if that's your, what's confusing message scientology unity as leverage against you for the rest of your career delivery, and they did. I mean francs, allegedly told travolta that if you ever defected, if he ever thought about leaving scientology fee, ever thought about seeing a single bad word about it all

those auditing records all those times. John Travolta talked about being gay. Those would all be made public, and I can't believe that any six year old man with the skin of a fifteen year old boy and of thousands of forty thousand dollars to pays, who regularly Answers and swiveller emotions, I can't believe, he's gay bay. While I think this is a message for the Ladys out their us straight, this is well. We look like like this? You love your turned revolt get down on your knees and are you what you say you're. The you pity me of straight man. I am straight man, you, you are the epitome of you have members of chicken up here. It's your fees, I did ask you, where genes and years than two years a few years back. What that's? What I'm saying

I have to take it. I have to take it as well tom cruise he didn't want to have sex with you know he just wants to have sex with a fucking full uncut trout. No, that's your theory, though, and David Miscavige heard that franks was talking to travolta about the part in battlefield earth. Which had enough power at the age of eighteen to demand a meeting with John Trott. Pretty soon Miscavige had taken control of scientology's biggest star, knowing full well behold, scientology had over travolta and, of course, Miscavige had some very disparaging words to say about John, Travolta ye did yeah. Of course. Now you got, you call them all manner of slurs, and so we ve got this guy forever. We got this effort in our pockets. Is the term that I can't believe he said that yeah, yeah yeah ban. No, of course nothing came of it Teen eighty battlefield earth movie and will be talking a lot more about John draw tom cruise care. Seattle

and all the rest in a later episode, but part of the reason why battlefield earth fell apart was because our age became occupied by other problems. He abandoned battlefield earth to escape from a slew of subpoenas concern. charges that included, but we're not limited to scientology, mid seventies, infiltration of the irs, very real criminal charges, outsourcing of labour to the irish or clandestine, see great scam religion. But this operation designed to extort tax exempt status for the church. It was called operation, snow white. We talked about it much more extensively in our wrong hubbard series? Basically, you put a bunch scientologist into the irs you get enough dirt and tell you finally able to flip the united states government into giving you tax exempt status marks

all you gotta do yeah, that's all you gotta do, but by nineteen seventy nine, the irs rude amount pretty fast. It didn't take that long now run hubbard wife, Mary sue, hovered, she'd, already been convicted of her direct involvement in the affair leaves Everything in the keen to behind all wrong. Not wanting to go to jail is well. He fled in a white dodge van tricked out specifically for hubbard, had velvet curtains, at the day bed in the back to the amenities needed was an l ron hubbard eventually settled in an apartment in newport beach, California. Now at this time, David Miscavige was close to l ron hubbard, but he wasn't necessary. in hubbard's inner circle just yet. Rather he was in the inner circle of hubbard's inner circle. he's in the outer circle? I circle he's not the yoke

is the one you laugh, I now see miss cabbage had become friends with pat and Annie broker, who were actually to have herbert's closest aids, pat ran secret, undercover errands for hub whenever hubbard needed and Annie was one of the original commodore messengers making her fanatically devoted to allow you know how I like my pants patent of yes in do, and so, when harbour went underground. Nineteen eighty patent any were rightly position to take the helm because of course, I'll run. Birth could only hand things over two people. He trusted and david miss cavell was likewise rightly position to help pat and Annie at the highest levels. In these rural kids, there on the fuckin twont, yes, wow, Mary sue hubbard was the head of the guardians office, which was the arm of scientology responsible for infiltrated the irs. Basically, the guardians office is scientology version.

of the kgb, their responsible for attacking suppressant person, and they got all the lawyer sooner. You miss cavell, meanwhile, had been put fully in charge of the commodore messenger service at Age of nineteen little see yet makes sense, because the cameras messes service is all teenage. Some kids, but my estimation, the c m or excuse me commodore message organization and am I Estimation c m o is more scientology secret police, it's their gestapo said the nazi gestapo was wrong. the hitler years. Well, it's also during this time period would change. David Miscavige will obviously change all of the structures yeah, but this was this served as a pseudo gestapo yam. I don't know why they call him gestapo. Cause you keep going to go. No, I just don't remember that I wonder whether call gestapo edmunds didn't stop yet We have to be sure your room enough. What running around him years ago will have ten years ago.

well no remember that years ago, one line our border together. Just stop islands, him stop here. I wouldn't call him gestapo. I haven't seen him stop yet. I feel like Tillman's, going to say, like that was like from an all musical, but two things that David miss cavities in charge of the cap. What are messengers organization, he has half the power that he needs. At this point, the guardians office scientology kgb, there's somewhat in disarray, operation, snow white come crashing down because a scientific just had turned informant trust was at an all time. Low David, miss cabbage saw this crisis of confidence in the old guard as an opportunity, and he set about gaining control of the guardians office as a fresh fish

a fresh face, ear the ears he looks like he's, made fifth place at a rod, steward, look alike up just because of the height and at the same time miss cabbage also took The role of chairman of the board of authors services. I think it was author services international, thank you, he has international put shit at the end. So yeah they just said the long title. Will author services as a money laundering operation, whose purpose was to skim money out of the top scientology proper and funnel directly to our own harbour. Disguising the ash from the religion as book royalties from EL runs. Prodigious literary output, David, miss garbage, begins this process of understanding of how to double your money, which is what you do is that you take money that people by so their buying in house material from the scientology store. Their buying is material from you see you get that money, but then would you

would you take all that money? A normal you'd have to divide it up or taxes and bubbled up here then takes a chunk of that. and he says no, no, no, this old as actually this is something else, I'm in a stick that money back into another side of the corporation and just give it to even though outrages he doesn't have money. and legal issues wandering around it would have legal avail run. So hundreds of city was running for congress being out of closing down fine stella kate, the funds right over there because, basically put David, miss cabbage in prime positions of both financial and authoritative wings of scientology, all at the age of twenty three, while in this a course meant that he was now in hubbard. In her circle with pat and Annie broker. He made it to the old treated it once miss. Cavell had l runs ear. He began a limit eating potential rivals by worm tongue and hubbard into believing that once trusted scientologists we're taking advantage of the chaos to steal from the church- and I do think he

I hate the fact that a young member yeah with what we talk about, there's a lot that he saw the violence in David Miscavige and he was just like I like this. I liked the fact that you could be the hammer that I can't be anyone and there's something about have that young energy. I think you're talking to him. He feels like he's colonies. you're a year. You will get all pumped up from david misgivings just like yeah, you go to do whatever you want. I mean I can see David Miscavige, doing a pretty good pump up speech. To be honest, he does he turned his powers for good. He could have been a great head coach. He is not as good as a talker as eller h ever was. I was watching the only real like interview with him with ted koppel yeah he's key stumbling he's actually kind of like he kicked back and forth. If he's feeling confident he feels good, but a lot of times. He just has a lot of curse. Words think he good on a big stage, though guys did watch him present forgiven was for it was for the tax exempt status when we finally yeah, he gave some large presentation about five, or

six years ago today. Remember that you knew what yeah radio sense. I sense. I think he can speak you when scientologists. He knows scientologists. He knows exactly when he's talking to people who will not question him in any way whatsoever. Amazing yeah! What a man I was so charming with no one questions but yeah- and here I mean that's the things that David miscarriage, has this incredibly knack energy and, I think, enter I think, you're right. It definitely rub off on our on how they our because this is also about the time that the first like punishments really started and scientology will at least punishments and always. thing in scientology, but this is when punishments became torture. They really were way more about. It was more homework larry believe in the idea of you were ward for positive. You punish for negative, so you give people gifts when they do well when they are, they do when a fail, something you punish them and be Debbie.

In with like. While you need more m, u hours, you need these other things. We need to be audited more. You need to ensure his homework, but David Miscavige start being like what, if we just beat the shit out of him- and this is partly how scientology's infamous running program again see miss cabbage, had arrival from new zealand named David mayo and miss cabbage convinced hubbard. That may was stealing from scientology money laundering operation, the asap one of the regional money laundering operands, know why w launder so hubbard supposedly gave an order that forced me to run circles around an old oak tree all day and all night, with only short breaks for food and water. This is what I'm talking about with weird shit. You're learning here You have your running in circles to be like this is keeping your focus. Now, it's like a more perverted

road to wellness what the kellogg families early did. I mean that, since they I say, hubbard supposedly gave the order, because miss cavell came out said hovered around told you to do this, so we don't really need this is at this point we don't know. What's actually come from Robert, what's actually come from David, because that a key start David is really starting to tighten up the communication between herbert and everyone else. I mean if you do have an may be, heads should make it up just run in a circle around a tree. Twenty four hours a day reality minority fondness and eventually this punishment became more widely used, the oak tree was replaced with a palm tree in the dirt path, was replaced with a gravel track they formalised at, but today the running programme was remarked it not as a punishment but as a class it's called caused resurgence, run down and the scientific just pay upwards of five thousand dollars to do. What was once a punishment. Why are they would merit

So we came in her wonder marathons art in a circle naomi and it's not as it is just an illegal, just you're, just running circles around a palm tree and you pay five thousand dollars or and guess what did you do to facts? You get punished. Did you get it? You slow you get punished and debate. If so, it just gets I'd, have ingenious and turn it into a class. Now your pain to be you mean what, if you'd just when you could run twenty four. point some miles having to use urkel. I guess they do as they have all the side classes, because then you been called by believe it's called the super literate and then, if you become super literate, it's means you've taken all the side. Quests you're trying to get one hundred sent on the game. Now, oh well, now, by the early eighties, misgivings in the brokers had tightened communications with Ella reached the point where they were actually able to prevent humberts own wife from contacting them. Mary sue hubbard. In turn, referred to Miscavige as little napoleon where the legal remember David minute. Miscarriage is five point three, but isn't he then just napoleon, but that's it

calling. Someone little napoleon is worse because that's the other thing was five foot. Seven and normal height men are, are yeah well normal hyper of a french I for way back and many a man for a very large netizen. Eighty eighteen, many different areas of men. I be mongolian, said. Billy well, look who's that we see a professional bascombe up our what's best The towering totalling over me he's like an installer eventually hubbard also decided that mary sue needed to become a sort of sacrificial last year. I could see that our eyes he started to genocide against fuck and on their own studies line. Very man should have again been done. To be fair, she shouldn't have them hey someone's gotta love these idea, man, I guess so what our age allegedly directed, miss cabbage to get Mary sue to confess to murders committed

the guardians office and to do it on tape and l rates be okay. We get her on tape, then we can turn it over to the government and then everything can be dumped on merit sue ann, I can settle into an old age. No jail. Tat is called real life, ensure one when it gets to your wife. I guess, but with hubbard defended Lee. Turning a mary sue, miss cavell was able to purge the guard. office of anyone loyal to mary sue, which put miss cabbage fully in control of scientology. Or tat of which he and the guidelines on this by peace yeah just every little bit, and then there miss cabbage restructured the corporate architecture of scientology to place more of it his own control, without anyone really noticing, at least at first step number. On all these dore frames are gonna, be five foot seven. I want to feel like you're lucky in here. I want you and african nail. You miss cabbage, framed it in such a way that

He did what he said. The reason why I'm doing all this is that if we take l ron hubbard out of the corporate structure, we take him out of the reach of the law. He can't be litigated. If he's not a of scientology corporate structures. Really old, to do the old fashioned way where we have a he's: the fancy might ensue. Yes, he's there needs our inspiration, but I'm the prime minister down MC, keep hubbard out of court. Miss cabbage, hired a law firm that he code named the axe attorney. Exit charities downward. You guys, you cut disbarred sounds like hubbard then gave miss cabbage even more power to purge anyone in the church who is believed to have been aligned with Mary. hubbard, so he's gettin rid everybody. Ok, some of these people had been with hubbard since the beginning of sea or

decades pass lie about more ever worry. Yeah miss cabbage relegated all of them to cleaning duty that that was the big thing in the day. That you got your fear on cleaning duty, your bottom of the barrel union models who just pulled blondie. No, I don't want their beds, dealers care dear handing out, I got up and why I would just leave at that point whether in their fortys and fifty's, lay a mocking gotta be clean. New kind of may be just like all this will be a phase. Ella reaches both to be rising. Task will cause truthfully here, been totally isolated and everybody else have been fed. The line our age is in his thought laboratory, with common up with the next wave of tat, great he's, in their that's reason: why not talk? And it's not because he's dementia laden and kind of embarrassing from becoming a parody of an old man. He's doing no signal he's there and he's formulated. He's travel stars of this night, and we basically what misgiving is doing- is

he's just taken down the number of people who might have challenged his claim to the throne like it ended and our own hubbard as he is not realizing that he's doing it, but he's giving him permission to do. I owe you that's what we're here, the older brother. If you play crusader kings, three, you always kill the baby sat always zone. You doing. You kill the babies in that it gets about like building family, dynasties and stuff, as you have to make sure the right son becomes a leader of the your group and what Miscavige says he didn't kill the babies. He made friends with the babies. He killed the fathers he killed the uncles Good for maybe lucky baby no dad no around this time. Nineteen. Eighty three other scientologists were beginning to notice the only people who ever talk to our age, where these three kids patent annie broker and they

miss cabbage is almost everyone from the old days had been purged from contact with scientologist named gale Erwin. Confronted David, miss cabbage about this. He allegedly knocked her to the ground with a flying tat. yeah I'm ass Jesus. I mean that's our fight for three men who have yet to jump off observers Emmett man when she complained and demanded a meeting with pat broker in dennys parking lot. It was day miss Carlyle moves over my annual work back in doing all? What's going at a glance I am, but that is what we focus on. in view of the human element of this. Is me and daddy's part european identity is working online out, were he tried getting hold of pat broker, but she got tat day and miss cabbage. Instead, I vow my girl was way to see David miscarriage carbo loaded with a bunch of pants.

Gale Erwin was waiting, a black van stated in the parking lot and david miss cabbage with five other. Do climbed out our boy using attire iron, miss cabbage walk up to the pay phone that girl was supposed to be talking to pat on any smashed it with a guy kallas on fucking bow. So she realized the miscarriage, knew what she was up to now and then miscarriage ordered her into the van no, she wasn't heard, but she was declared and s p, which to assign taller It is worth saying that iran or be it had the ship it out to you than be declared in espy. Everything has been stripped of you and your out, and then they have. These debates got fair game which have also come into play, and then you get caught off now. Gino. rigour stars in aid, be sees new comedy not dead, yet she plays a young woman desperate to get her life on track after a messy break up. She returned, sir, a job as a journalist, but this time

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the only one still in contact with l age, there's, also pat nanny broker, there's basically three people that are in contact with them right now, but this confusion and anger about what's coming from l, r h and what's not that eventually resulted in protests at scientology conventions held a nineteen eighty two guys, but miss cabbage, and his minions verbally declare that all of the protesters were s. Peace wearies before such a declaration I become come from formerly written order. Oh miss cabbage also position himself to speak with Ella reaches voice in nineteen. Eighty three, when hubbard eldest strange son. Never never, never, never. Never. Never! He filed a lawsuit to summon hubbard court, so hubbard could subsequently be served with slew of civil case relating to sign to logical, miss de I love it around nine was. I wish I could be there. I wish, but I'm on sand right now just leave a message. I am sorry

Your neighbours, we don't take lawsuits frowned little pieces of licorice near the edge of the global candy of to avoid court. Miss catfish had the axe attorney higher experts to manufacture a special batch of ink. That could be dated with certainty, mischance, then had hubbard signed a declaration saying he was okay and alive. Using this special nk, then miss cavack had an expert testify in court, saying that our on signature using this ink was proof that he was alive, thereby avoiding any need for IRAN to appear in court in person. Think about how far think about how deep a scam that is, that's crazy. He went and found properly a the ink that could be written down. So if they re right to look at it with forensics it were, it would apply. That is the type of true thorough thuggery. Many was cable

mrs baby, David. At grown big, daddy, David now, but sneakily. This sign statement also included a declaration that miss cabbage was in charge of humberts affairs. O this later gave miss cabbage leverage to declare that hubbard had named him scientology success. Animals with power force in the world lever. As we know, the teeter tat our rules of life will around this time. David miss cabbage, so began using more aggressive tactics in defending scientology in the public eye. Trump kick most notably, who use these aggressive tactics during an event that scientologist hyperbolic we refer to as the battle of portland I've. Seen that footage scientology became embroiled in two major lawsuits in nineteen. Eighty five that threatened

The murder kill completely remove scientology from the face of the planet. One lawsuit claimed emotional distress caused by brainwashing and emotional abuse. The other claim that the church had falsely asserted that they could improve the plaintiff's intelligence, creativity and communication skills. Now now, how did we know that that didn't work? We are doing it. I can no longer is very relevant restaurant will the el rachel we said that he just using auditing alone with one auditing session. You can raise your iq point by one point Why are we basically people come an item from two directions like want like from wonder? kind of like a higher using slave labour yeah and the other direction is you're. A scam yet may arise when, are all said and done. The courts were about to award a total of sixty nine million dollars in damages to the plaintiff somewhere easily beg

sixty nine minutes earlier this? Would you please would you did she is your new sixty nine million? That's a funny number. As you see, sixty nine at anything is funny that would easily bankrupted the church at the time. Okay, now probably not and so in may and june of nineteen. Eighty five miss cabbage organised, a protest in which twelve thousand scientology, including John Travolta, descended upon portland. This is when John Travolta came out for the first time I openly said I am a scientologist scientology- has helped me. I have helped other people with scientology, but of course this is also long. After John Travolta was still a big star, a bankable star, John okay, you're, coming out as we move is gradually becoming known or almost caught. Obviously, but my house that's great, I was ten years ago I have a bit I took all the doors are put cause any school mystic, this

great to see you're coming out, you're a scientologist. You want to put on to go outside my house and see all of the upcoming out of the almost forgotten. Okay, you came out. This is around nineteen, eighty five, so he was about five years past urban cow. but this was the year that he was imperfect, but with curtis and cheesecake looks good now here s amazing and that one, but he still also seven year, some look who's, talking, em, look who's talking to and don't forget me start on. Look now sold on any of them. But these people, these twelve thousand protest but that is really is remarkable. Single thousand people yeah they created enough of a ruckus where the judge declared a mistrial in one case and the church reached a settlement for an undisclosed amount in the other. From this miss cavell learned that intimidation works, so the judge, litter

he was like, let's go with mob rule, is banned in areas like all right. Ok, ok, ok, sounds like a baby, all hassle a little more complicated than that, but it breaks down the basics yeah. He intimidated his way out of these and he saved basically save the church right. Well, the does to be the head of a pin doesn't day by nineteen. Eighty six, miss cabbage, Annie, broker and pat broker. They were pretty much the only ones in contact with our rich and on january, sixteenth of that year, hubbard suffered a stroke and died on a bus. Eight days later on, I even at sea hey He discarded his vessel because he had more space homework that he had to do. Much as we like, you should have died in a boat I'll. Be here, one that to you, wanted another body now wanted thine about started. I wanted diana, but now he called it. It was the blue bird. It was the blue bird,

You don't wanna, be there either he loved his boat. He may so. We done robust named after a plain, but only one it was about that's how life goes. You die, with whatever your and yes, sir, but just before our raged died, he issued something called flag order. Three, eight seven nine in this order, cause ok hold on was there any further order, three, eight seven, six, who knows just magically pull that number out, because it sounds eminently forms it might answer. There might have been three thousand eight hundred and seventy eight before that there could have been ok, but in this order called the sea organ, the future hubbard retired, the think of commodore in promoted himself to admiral aigrettes soon he is more importantly, though. He instituted a new rank, that of loyal officer, but instead of appointing David, miss cabbage to this new rank, our age appointed power

in Annie broker, which made it somewhat obvious to most scientologists that the torch was being passed to them. Oh miss cabbage, of course, didn't agree values in his plan or why's. He didn't know that yeah, but before that fight happened, the church had to explain our age is death to the church because remember scientology supposed to fix everything, including strokes, and if our aid, couldn't figure it out and what chance to the rest of her eye so broker and miss cabbage came up with a plan. Together, they decided the EL. Our age did not actually die, odin ed he quote: dropped his body, a man who says he dogs answer full. May I get rid of it dropped his body, so he could move to a higher level of exist. Hit me with that dog me up with that year, and this was announced by David, miss cabbage himself at a gathering of two thousand scientologists days after hubbard staff. You could almost hear the crowd now below,

Well, that's true. You have a lot of things that are already I remember when he died. They said that they all pointed everybody with him in the brokers, they were trying to frame it like its positive, but they all there were like now, There was another, we would bowl where he announced it, but it was something like that. It was that, although the lady of the palladium yeah, whilst there all right so they were, celebrating the death of their dear leader, not for most at scientologists when they saw David, miss cabbage onstage, announcing all this wacky shit. That was the first time that ever seen or even heard of David mischief investment funny ducas. They gotta bring out the little son like when robert, like they bring out the little thing they do have their. I no longer have a little story used and he also refuses lifts because he says that's theses, thing t hungry, I'm crazy or that one out around here, but when miss cabbage said that hubbard it reached the lot

in which the body is nothing more than an impediment. People listen up. Next, the memorial service was pat broker, who had big news to deliver to the congregation to soften the blow of hubbard staff. Ok, he said that hubbard had made significant breakthroughs in his research just before her, dropped, his body, great to wit, hubbard, had discovered to more levels on the fridge to total for you got any had notes with three f That is why I give way our young levels of this pyramid schemes- nay, So the bridge to total freedom is a list of auditing actions that are needed to reach the highest o t level. The o t level is the operating satan level, which one can only progressed. Throw want. One is,

come clear. It's the work after the work. If you got all the work and each operating faint level reveals new knowledge like you learn about the zenith mythology after o t three of eight, when it's far too late to turn back with fire right on airlines was you know where they had another one or two others, five more after anders. You know you know this five more and if any other sounds confusing, then perhaps you merchants of chaos need to stop mattering. Your miss emotional I'd recommend taken a duck bond. Straightway are your pure up into a flood, less audit elsewhere, you clams, might be brought up to the karma of at cedars to blow down your tribulations, and you once were clam speak for how borg's record with the things we get your raw meat from we running up to the present time as long as you're in ethics you're going to have to deal with it, but if you're getting rock slammed and you're run down

or J indian you been to that's getting ticked on your kr and your emu's are piling up. You don't jump out, gradient, you've, gotta, stick to your s or west and you've to be the spokes clam. You want to be not the squirrel. Your statements thought taught you to be so you don't blame me for bulls or you'll, be spending the summer getting your goddamn tr. Is it all right? There we go. I wanna be the spokes clam. I can be not the scroll, your satans want you to know absolutely not. Who would I would rather well theoretically. Well, we've learned nothing more fun to be a squirrel that few hours to put together a really was a mean. I've got the gist of it That's all you do not at all. It is that it means there all the words had been nothing now they are basically, I said like if all you people who don't like scientology, you need to stop fucking up our.

thanks. I don't know greater, you wanted to say and moaning, but you have an audience, do I I understand it, but I couldn't explain it. Does that make sense? I understand, but I welcome the signs of scientology We all you need to know about the o t levels for the purposes of this story. Is it they're? All these have been, and always will be, only eight o t level ochre. But it s wrong. Cupboards memorial service. He suddenly got pat broker saying now. Man there's two more o t levels and he actually held up what was supposed to be a page. tailing o t tat, you see their hands. Have you can read from the state you're gonna, all law, that that's that's judy. This was, of course apply. The position himself as the new leader of scientology, because he who holds the attack in scientology holds the power whore. That's what broker so now he flew believe

Well, that's what musk thought what he bought twitter and then he was like. Why am I not getting more importance on line three exactly will this may have been true in hubbard's day that he who holds the tech, holds the power sure, but what broker didn't realize was that Miscavige had already changed. The game seem as cap was a man of the eighties earlier who had long since understood that he who holds the corpse structure holds the power and when it came to structure, miss cabbage had a hell of a lot more power than pat broker. By this point, miss cabbage had millions in the financial wing of the asia. I have most of the guardians office and nearly all of the commodore messenger service and that's not even mention the ex attorney day, like wavering penury, roberto lithuania's via three ness interests: no very interest, indeed area, but indeed this gap, the wolverine,

called leaders. Yet he has a guy put it there. I could see. No one was hurt. You pat broker. Meanwhile he had none of this. He only had mysterious pages no one is actually seen detailing new o t levels and he had a claim that you and telepathic communication with our age from beyond the grave clay bedding and now you just say I've been telepath will not from beyond the gray, because, of course our rates is not dead. He telepathic community, hating river, hubbard spirit, great now, the only real world card the pat broker had was tat. His wife was in charge of the religious technology center. But again our tc was mostly about the tec, not the structure by nineteen. Eighty seven, miss cabbage had seized control of that as well. No romance no adventure. He understood that debts like its played out already all of the genuine big, quoting quote whatever you'd call the intentions of valor H. All of the magical property

everything we ve learned from the ehler, each series, the jack parson, serious all about work of the ritual magic, but blood boiled into this system. He said fuck that now it's all about who could try? the wallet while, so he really made it just corporate that yeah let us move on. You believe us, but there was still the matter of flag order. Three, eight seven, nine, which name the brokers, not david, miss cabbage as loyal officers zune, so miss cabbage, took l, run hundreds advice and went on the attack. Never defend always attack, see pat broker had taken up residence at the ranch were all run, hovered had died and from their pat figured that he could direct signed, gee from afar, but pat being isolated, meant that miss cabbage could spread. Rumour specifically miscarriage said that pat was drunk spent, all of us I am travelling the country buying exotic animals for the ranch. Again, it's a thought,

we're just it is such a we're. Gonna say about some bite: it sticks it just use them of being tiger gag now so, with brokers, reputation tarnished miss cabbage gathered his most trusted allies, which included future defectors mike reiner and Marty wrath bond together this group stormed brokers ranch to find and remove the only small piece of power pat had left the new o t levels with an actual squad surrounding the wretch, all with walkie talkie, is ready to rush in with any luck. It's our wake up, while he is way too like because they chose his diabetes kind of in a way to thinking that all of this was real yeah like that, like he has secret papers, a theory or on other words like you know that he doesn't do for you just right other papers,

written a lot, a paper will miss cabbage, entered pats house and tore out the walls in search of the o to levels. What he found no was far better, especially considering the new oki levels. Did next week's s right. Instead, David miss cabbage bags of previously unaccounted for tat, mystery can then go wrong. Man called because contractor fatal disease jack. You left your money by god when you do that enormous cabbage had to do to get rid of broker forever stern. Over that untapped, cash to the ira. Ass, nay, always get their man. My goodness, and with that miss cavell reached the endgame broker, had two choices: either turn complete control the church over to miss cabbage or go to jail. He chose the former, and course miss cabbage couldn't let anything go was extremely vindictive. He added insult to injury by separate.

in pat from his Y yeah. He destroyed their relationships. She then convinced, Annie broker that she had been a victim of her husband, this entire time and after she finally agreed. She was relegated to a heavily monitored low authority position by the middle of nineteen. Eighty, seven, zero and so with all of his rivals. Out of the way David, miss cabbage took full charge of scientology that, of course, This is where will pick back on a bad times truly begin:

started, man isn't even begun, not bad times. The walls or flush with tat were just because it's a thing just have some of the determination of the little bit of that miss cabbage like energy. Not only have I little bit of it, I will never do it. Ok, I now jesse. So it's just you all vigorous, go ten percent, miss cabbage energy and then the little bit about bottle of they put in a combat cologne thy gabby nice. Not smell of it. To be honest, it is not good this guy. I think he smells robust, eerie smells of floral woody, a woody. I guarantee you know when he comes into the room. First, with your nose shone yes, but anyway, all right David Miscavige was it's just the beginning of how he began the process of being the monster he is now he is, and we fucking will come back we're going to talk about celebrities who can get into like the very excited for this update because it get it's still going. They just

herb, Davis misgiving. I only got him today. I will see what happens there so going after him, shipping a bunch of slave labour to australia, he's up to his same old tricks that he always wore the aim is still trying to do that. I'll run harbour should, if they can't sing like if they can't get me in the court, they can't get me on anything ran today. The judge actually rolled like we ve, been trying to. Before a year who gives a shit, we're for yeah we're gonna get you yeah. We don't have to serve you you're, just fuckin, avoiding We're gonna, get see what happens when speaking of ship into australia will be there in August yeah, maybe their own way. Second, through the ten try go through the list, the latter are go last buck s and left. I can't take a look at all our data shrilly, australia, the first week of august. We can't wait to fuck concealed in the ground. we're going to do a live side stories of the fine arts theatre in beverly, hills April. Eighth, I got this tickets up. My seychelles will put up in the last podcast socials as well

we're also go to new zealand to not just australia area who were starting in off yeah reaction. In real and knock mozilla there's our baggage, we might become later sped. Finally guys wanted, because once the new president s national radio illicit this year mia are correct, is spanks for the government, everybody in the government of morocco, stern spank. I thought you meant corrective spain His and like you get like some spanks like the pan, lateral rancey outlay paddles enhance. Are they both work right over one? Thank you for listening you're, so it is now in progress relations, but do you really do your reading. I don't want you fuckin common up next fuckin episode, explain to me the saying to me on the santa claus returns: okay, because they are out there for you to read and its own due to catch up to us, and yet you don't want us in turbulent if you dont want us and turbulence

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