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because he's grizzled vase. But I don't understand what kind of monster whose we we're we're. Not we're going to sit here. We're watch, unsought, mysteries, gonna sit on the couch dune, robot this guy's a. I so only watch the union's back to back to back to back to back to back skipping intro is like skipping. The first part of the movie up. You can't get to the joy and totally out of this I hate the beginning up. I hate the weight. Pixar manipulates, my emotions, I wanna be aspects. I don't want to think about. My father. Welcome to the last bud. As the beloved Riverwood, I am Ben Gazelle staring at the beautiful base of marked is parks. I stared at me, through a computer screen more like absolutely out, of course, had risen, browsers ie as well. You know last week's episode, Libitum is people loved it, they really the expanded their minds, as we were talking about destroying the minds of others,

busy, I will skip the tall whites sea areas because he wrapped wow maligned he was and how he said he's still about it and autonomy, That moment was for him. Well, it was a little tender and they didn't quite realise how people we're gonna make a lot of different kind of jokes. It sets a sort of birds, family and there's no, its, not and then even the last podcast Instagram with so kind post a picture of my family Instead, let us do it. It's a soldier s skipping, the tall whites, the episode that never happened have gone up, but we're trying to however, some people, some some people that have been specifically affected by LE bodies, and then I got really do it, because we were basically talking about Rosemary Kennedy. Yeah I've been trying to figure out a way to also talk about what I wanted to be a fine interesting stuff about, like rituals families

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I am the man the Bald away room they takes me anywhere. Isn't there the powerful message you aren't like Johnny Depp in the movie secret window. It was him the whole time. Don't you just ruin? The movie watch out for twenty five years. Also, rheumatism lumbar shall speak. bottom United used to drive all across country this week, which was amazing some of the people. Early. Lobotomies are still happening, judging by than she chalet I drove by in the skies it those people might. necessarily be fully equipped mentally, but I got to say this forever and say that this country is full. It is now Is you are so today empty? So if anyone wants to come here, sell you a plot of land, futile nobody ballade of it, but you can go. That's a lot of people watching it s The trip you gonna do

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ninety percent of their worth. Eight per cent of people- that's to know we were in a pandemic. Certainly I do I apologise to the hotel. My dogs did decade. A bit narrow channel Roma to pay healthy, fine, I didn't realize you got the call from the hotel manager, who is he Jerry Ferment hotels, you're, gonna, get you can call it. You know, I know what you did well said Rosalie and these, like you know what you did What do you mean what you did and then they just jars? but I didn't realize if you feed dogs, nothing but a diet. Gas station burritos and and beef Jerky there like us bodies too. anyway, No is that those dogs are very happy not to be living like I leave war noses next victim

dogs or have like the ability to know we're going to show you the mother. Let me go, let me, and they don't have that no, no, they all shape, but they definitely the ability to stare at you as they piss in a corner of the room that they know they should be, and they know that you know that they should be, and then their very mad at you and they stare at you and pass and its so powerful? is so powerful. This is what being a father s castle and I feel like the Europe Buddy Dave Color and whose designed a lot of work there are of glass pocket. that work over the years. I think that here as the ability to just piss in a corner and papa, we call that the old Obama water fountain Are we ready to get into some further tragedies of la bottom? You dont want I've, never been more excited. I can't wait, I'm in my eyes pig ready right now. I love this

How will we did our series on the bottom? Is we covered many of the failures that came as a result of the procedure, but we neglected to mention the most famous of all failed lobbies, J Kay sister Rosemary Kennedy and that's part of what will be covering today, so his brain, had it worse, J, F K or Rosalind Kennedy, Rosen, rose I to be completely frank. I think at least J F K. Whatever happened, em, it happened. Quick up, that's true, Nineteen, forty one Rosemary Kennedy was subjected to a bottom me at the hands of the infamous Walter Freeman years before the ice pick lobotomy became fragments procedure of choice with rose Mary Kennedy, Walter Freeman, was still drilling holes in the sides of heads and cutting course from the frontal lobes in an attempt to solve whatever mental or behavioral problems the patient's might have. This is obsolete,

credible you're. What I found here by took several cores out of this young Irishman had, and I found an emerald, I'm making money. it's incredible great work doctor, but before we get civically into rosemary phlebotomy. Let's give a little bit more background on the Kennedy family, as it was laid out by a manual happiness on article about Rosemary Kennedy featured on cake. You, Ye D, DOT, org more just gonna, go into the history of the Kennedy. Israel could raise off most dynastic family in american history, just as a side, no tour lobotomy serious straight up the Kennedys. They can be summed up with bad back love. Boats and lobby yelling at dinner. That is mostly don't murder. What I mean

yet a real that's the funny thing about it is that we did six parts on J, F K and we barely scratch the surface of the Kennedy family itself in the history of the Kennedy family. It's very long, it's a very rich story, but it's also a very, very tragic story. One thing: that we didn't really talk about. All that much Honour Kennedy Series is the Kennedy curse? Yes, secondly, this deadly better who do apply to the generation of Kennedy. Children that included both J F K and are asking it did Kennedy curse is actually is that on your every fifth boner, it goes back or other heard tat. He could do we clearly do anything bad my cock proceedings, back by us all this needs of a part of me? Of course we know, both day of K and are of K were assassinated in the sixtys, but the deaths of the Kennedy.

Dron began long before that and will or to joking Junior, the Kennedy who is supposed to be president instead of J F K, was killed action means that the one that they all love he was like the shining star of the family. He was the job Eugene groomed for president and after They have k were killed their sister. flame died in a plane crash in France are of case. Mother and father in law died in a plane crash. Teddy Kennedy almost died in a plane crash and also killed that woman. Yes, he didn't kill a woman, you that kind of get civilian brush to quite a bit of an indian woman him an antibiotic given rather broader big week at each other girl snow, the abandoned bring the star of the producers into this Matthew. Broader EC felt at about drinking and driving and killing that person TED, we could have saved her. You know there were scratch marks at the top of the cars roof, so moved me the woman was trying to get out and it took like eight

where's for her to die, and you know what TAT Kennedy did. This is true. He got back to the hotel and complained to the manager that his neighbors were being too out. That's true story. Is I mean? What can you do? You know he had priorities and big thing was keeping up his hotels, dot, com, platinum despair, which requires you to put in reviews ever also and that's a job and of its self Abdul on it, get those discounts, But this Kennedy family is like so scary. If you find out the one of them are your plane. Its law the movie final destination. You get off if you're, just like waiting on your delta point, like Bob Kennedy Kennedy. Please report: please report Bob Kennedy, rent a car I'll run a car. We got that new fuckin red, headed whatever. That guy is the New Kennedy, whatever he I dont, he Kiki Crown he crawled out from other Iraq is about it is, I think you when you hear underneath the rock

no because again he should be travelling by fuckin, train apps, fuckin, John Man, we lost one football team, never flew again. we have lost their entire family and all they do is due air travel Finally, there was J, F K, Junior and ninety ninety nine, who also died in the plane crash, and his memory now has to deal with the indignity of being involved in the queue and on conspiracy as a man who faked his death in order to take down the elite. Satanist pedophile cabal for behind the scenes and gave can do now is even thought by some cure non believers too turned from the dead this year to run as trumps new VP. Honestly, honestly, I think I must say the sentence, big of true whether that turns out to be true and then like. Andy Kaufman has come back from the dead and put on a hell of a performance. I'd be really

I'd be really happy. You make Fucking Elvis Presley still alive is ninety five years older Andrew need at, and I will indeed be now. You make him like in charge of Ehud and then there was rosemary now the story, the I've always heard about rosemary. Was that Joke Kennedy Senior day of case father, his difficult daughter all about me and locked her away in the Kennedy attic until she died right now that isn't quite true, It certainly runs perpendicular to the truth. Rosemary was indeed born with developmental disabilities, but those disabilities were result of medical incompetence, not genetics, also the stories worse.

I swear, I don't keep choosing stories involving plagues on purpose, but rosemary was born and nineteen eighteen the same year that the spanish flu killed millions of people across the globe. It just happens every once in a while. It has to be an important part of history and that we continue to ignore the repair for their president No American, Was it just as hard as everyone else? Kennedy family was living in Boston by the time rose, Kennedy was ready to give birth to rosemary, but and so many people in Boston were infected with the spanish flu, the Kennedy we physician had a ton of sick and dying patients to attend to for he could get around to dropping by the Kennedy home today. Rosemary aussi. I dont think that that's right, I think, if you're a doctor you up to prioritize the new. If you someone who is dying of the spanish fluids like our right, but we got a baby.

Deliver here regime. We need to see in Boston for the future. I do this nineteen eighteen he's already out in the field. He doesn't know that rose Kennedy has gone into labor, yet he's just out there taking care of people every single day because he's a doctor, that's what he's gotta do he doesn't find out until hours later that she he's gone into labor, I would say castle. You should save your which people are obsolete valleys for when you're running for office. I will really important time there really state who needs to be. go and the levels of the levels of which of people that need to be let go just say it, but I have someone who has if you have someone who has covered, but then so given birth right next to the you. Gotta go catch the football You gotta catch the body you like I'm sitting say what sandwich. Should I see a woman given birth in front of me I'll, go and help them than ever, even they'll give or take allotted. Could some sandwiches put she's all forget,

Joel relate here presenting some sandwiches. You gotta keep hands on the entire time rewritten you gave out. If you want to do because it the sandwiches of all their ballpark. Due to this slippery nature of some of them items on the sandwich or just simply the amount of meat they decided to pile on there and yeah. would choose get no baby of a woman's vagina. I'd be they're, gonna give it to me. Given we give me rice that of making sure my sandwich day together, because it takes all three minutes to put it back together, guidance and waking nightmare once it's too, once its fallen apart, you're never actually saying about to get its. Never the fuckin thing now, perhaps just like this chick, but the thing here That is what you mean just like this. She cried out the fire. We told you out of the fire and then usually back its nineteen eighteen, zero Canada rampaging up. ten years that, if not for medical incompetence, none of that would have mattered,

see. There was a nurse present who could have delivered the baby and the baby, Indeed, ready to come out, but for reasons I can't fathom the nurse instead, ordered rose, marries mother to keep her legs closed and tell the doktor arrived. She did the fuckin bred man. Heart was a sharpshooter on want me. How is that possible? She just where's. The legs like the baby, is trot. The baby is crowning, starting to come out of the budget line and the nurses enclose the legs closer legs, the doctors not here, yet you got away for the doktor. It's not only be since she turned the baby baby refuse to wait when she couldn't keep your fuckin legs closed anymore. The nurse actually pushed the baby's head back into the birth canal and held it there for two hours harder than just given birth to the fuck it baby.

Baffling decision kept oxygen from reaching baby rosemary, which result in lifelong developmental disability saw as Henry said much worse at two years old, other toddlers or learning how to talk and in some cases, run rosemary. He could hardly sit up or even crawl. and what was even more unfortunate was that the Kennedys at the time were caught up in the eugenics craze no way through the did she added. Eugenics is a highly discredited belief that society can be engineered into a utopia through a process of selective breeding and eugenics was based. large part on the genetic experiments. Thomas Hunt Morgan had done on fruit flies. Now. Morgan completely distanced himself from eugenics, saying that he barely understood what the fuck is going on. With the fruit fly,

much less. How such theories could be applied to humans. I'm just gonna go out on a limb here and say honestly, I'm not a good doctor and I just killed a bunch of flies really all I did. You should see what I did to the frogs no legitimate there's a great american experience. Documentary called the eugenics crusade, which lays out the whole history of eugenics, Suuk, unfastening courses. We know you it led to the Nazis. Of course, you know who else believes in eugenics. Lamar ball of the ball family triple be brand. He talks about another time, he's the debt of these basketball players. All of these kids Alonzo Ball, who used to be a Laker. Now I forget, where he's plan, but talks about it all the time how he picked his wife. He said this in front of his wife and interview I picked out because she was gonna be good for

in and then she's just like. Yes, yes, today, at the end of the day as yet, we I showed him. I showed him how much you I took an apple, and I put it inside of myself- became a great credible the abbot. My vagina can do so much pressure and there was so people still believe in this new genetics. We talked about that. That's we're Thomas! He still peace to plug this protocol new objectives when it's a lot like new, You do not this idea that people with court quote: bad Dean's automatically give birth to more people with Quorum, quote bad genes took off spit ethically among rich elites, who turned look on the lower classes as little more than animals, whose only purpose is to make those elites richer, and that's that thought has been around since the beginning of classes began like this idea that it could it. What does is create a valid dacians system of why we are so rich and,

poor right, oh poor, and why we're gonna make em poorer and poorer, because their jobs are too through used bodies literally to the death to build our empires, because we would not be here, if not for excellent breeding and where we came round, which is also the weird classes, applications of the reptilian and that concept, like all this kind of weird shit, the idea that there is strains of nobles like the black nobility, that the reason why there at the top of the heat was because fuck it million years ago, Reptilian chose their line of chimps to have sex with no kitten bigger. Big old movies on them gems. There perhaps I mean I've review for gonna pick one eyed pick one: it's got this the nice round, rounders bottom and the biggest top absolutely sure or not whatever is beautiful. If you Rupert Murdoch that

idea that knowledge people they give the idea the rich people are somehow more capable than poor. People is ridiculous. You, if you put a pebble on the ground and gave Rupert Murdoch a broom to clean it. Up He would just end up shovelling possess, like he has no idea. What he's like the man cannot do anything he's the size, but why do you do you will give me there's mustache staff. Eugenics is the idea that you are genetically poor. That poor age- that it that it is your fault, the your poor, because you have badge means or your it's your fault that you're a draw or your chronically unemployed, it's all it all comes down to bad genes, and if we stop those people from breeding with each other, then we can form this fantastic utopia in which everybody is a white to upper class person, ok and then they be using the police. The educational systems? They created a version of the genetically bore or they are attempting to creating a whole group,

people were almost impossible for them to get out of that situation, succeeded on Africa since the Kennedys were firmly a part of that rich elite class? They were terrified that their rich friends would see rosemary through a eugenics lens, and therefore the Kennedys would be considered. Carriers of those bad genes mean all the rest of the sons had permanent health problems. Already the owl already were born with health problems. I mean, I guess it. Easier. I guess it's hard to explain that, like the nurse put you're back in like I've, got a hard thing to bring up every single times. It was like. So what's wrong, you know what's wrong with your daughter, but the nurse, Torreon, they often do not like that, but that's where Zalzal really what I held back make us. You could have made a t shirt, we put on her nurse push my head back in as that's how you know your slower than I mean. I mean how you know not genetics nurse. Did it further

more at Kennedys. We're famously catholic in to this day I at an article which this happened in January of this year, some catholic pay. refused to give communion or confirmation to the end. Actually disabled, because they say they don't have the cognitive ability to choose Christ. What and there is also a rule that day, the catholic church does not hold priests accountable for children made a bow I priests and breaking the rule of celibacy they literally are allowed to have. They can be forgiven for breaking the rule of celibacy, but they are not allowed to take on the child like by the church. So the children they continue to exist. However, they exist, but they go whoops you, my penis made a bad one, and then they get to go and do the hail Mary pass to God in the it's fine, the old Doug fluting move their will really unfortunate, because everyone loves a cracker and I feel give you your online. You know you got. You think that eucharist is a cracker, then you

IRAN crackers my friend because our far more luxurious, Buttery Chris Spear crackers, then a eucharist I'm not lying to you. My catholic church changed up the eucharist, because people were like this. Why Don T we good and they sweating they might open a dollop of frickin. She cheddar cheese on it like liquid, jeez with or somethin, there's gonna be like, and this is the Eucharist there's a little hands on top. You ll notice that each one of their fuckin mouths, but perhaps pressing on the kennedys minds where their political aspirations having a disabled daughter, wasn't a good look in the first half of the twentieth century and Kennedy had a plan to install one of his sons in the White House one day the king

These opinions on the disabled only got worse in nineteen thirty four, when Joe Junior went to Germany, where the eugenics theories that we're getting big in America or colliding with the area, Suffolk ideas of a master race of Arians excel in the worst group of Fuckin, think tank dude. Since the people that came up with the double as one who dogmas with the k of sea double down. It gets ringers auguries, but it could you tell me nice and full Keith you think you could do it slowly down deep, never poop one after the other Joe Junior, who would eventually die. Fighting the Nazis became a convert to Hitler's programme of sterilizing disable Germans, which most agree with

Let us first step towards the holocaust. Joe Junior wrote to Joe Senior that he believed the sterilization law was quote a great thing and then programme would do away with many of the quote disgusting specimens of men which inhabit this earth and today, Joe Junior, simply, replied quote. I thank you, conclusions are very sowed. What these people can be we even stand up their heads are so big there like tiny. What is wrong with the Kennedy family? I just don't understand how they had the ego to even begin thinking that they work was to be american royalty. We're that's a whole. Another if we ever get into the dynasty. I wonder where it all started. It started with junior Joe Senior. It started with Joe Senior used, not just like one point, my son of the White House, that there was idea. He was the one that I mean it's much more complicated than that, and there are other people involved in it, but yeah Joe Senior was kind of a guy, that's it like The Kennedys are gonna, be big in America.

Don't Kennedys are gonna fuckin with economies are going to be huge and they really, Joe Senior and Joe Junior are really the only Jaguar, peace is a shit ted, but woe we'll get later into how all this affected J F K. Personally, ok, so when it became obvious that rosemary was one of what they consider to be disgusting specimens they ship there to various boarding, schools and institutions, while lying to their friends and family, saying that Mary was doing just fine rosemary. Relevant did improve when Joe Senior was appointed ambassador to the United Kingdom and the whole family temporarily relocated to England, but when World WAR two, got serious for londoners. The Kennedy returned the United States like I've not for these different type of french fries based explode, bangs, the guy gossip, We have a candidate

somehow here, rumour bosniak sir. I love Forest Kennedy. I think he's going to make a big one day after they returned the United States Rosemary who is now twenty two years old regressed fly, into violent rages, in which she would physically attacked others to the point of injury and after bounds and a few schools. She was eventually sent to a convent school in D c. I dont think any of the way there treating her helped her can do in any way shape or know that she is specially this type of like malpractice, like things that happened to children and affect your brain it just really crazy to see how to structure your brain is real important, Thank you, just the size and shape of it has to be as the production line was supposed to make it, and if you make it look like

p, not in any way shape or form you're. Just not gonna, be right. you know people are always given tattoos to be unique and stuff. You know, and with Play you can have the star when you pushed when you push the Plato throne of me We can do that with women with the vagina we put little molds and the new, never star kid, and you gave a like a kid I think a triangle had like a kid and has a good who me, I know just kind of fun, it's mind: boggling mind boggling horrifying, but also this. time. I'd see it you know, I have a virus, I look at it and I'd be like, while you did that, I dont know what it would do to them, but if maybe if they were for in a weird way. I somehow came around to understanding Newcastle like. If, if they manage to do it while the brain was forming, maybe the normal, if you could shape it from inside of the viewer. Us that's what I'm saying and then it just gonna find that everyone's different.

the human rights like the human skull when a child is first born the brain? The skull is very valuable. Yes, you can shape the skull and also two different fun ways of Emmi. That third act. Third, I didn't hurt your head become shaped like the statue of liberty. You're, going to be able to come out of the vagina got see, sections that stuff Isaac, that's not rob ugly! I gotta go that don't I've been using your fuckin brain right through their sorry, I'm done like. I must have some sort of tier drop shape brain inside of mine. I don't look so rosemary, get sent to a convict school Washington D C, And when she started sneaking out at night cuz, you know she's fucking to twenty two years old she's living with a bunch of fucking nuts. Of course, she's going to sneak out and I'm sure for the nun became convinced that the only reason why Mary was doing. This was too illicit sex with multiple men. Now, if you try to get a fuckin like soda pop

This is where they just pull out of the machine. Legs use try to see a park there, a moment of freedom so worried that? Have An unpredictable sister might prevent one of his sons from reaching the White House joke He started asking doctors if there was another option here. Oh that twin Joe, was told about a new procedure called the la bottom. Yes caught her bright? Can we do? guy maybe we could put some sort of gone up about an issue. Throw us off. I guess up to the top of add ons to spit ball in it.

What sort of like a chimney sweep always most outrageous about this decision to have all about me with it, since rosemary have been diagnosed as in the parliaments of the times, so I was called at the time mentally retarded. Only Jos consent was necessary to approve the procedure maiden Nita. He they tell the mother while the key could just eat just go, get her brain Pope. I just didn't. Need rosemary permission didn't need the mothers permission Joe could just fuckin. Do it because that's how the law was set up, because people who were developmentally disable had no right? in any way whatsoever, yeah down was rosemary. Mother wasn't even told that it was happening Intel after it happened. Why didn't them? there have any say in the rearing of this child. She was even allowed to give birth to it on her own terms. This is we Hopefully we ve gotten better on that front. This is it seems to be there is a stripe of this idea,

being like, where my husband makes those decisions like that type of thought process where they just don't even think about anything because show Senior was a quarter quote very import man, radio is one of these people. That was key viewed himself as a shapers of our country. That's what he wanted to do here. To control. We are entire country. What and those people don't really like. Think about us as people and I can't imagine what they think about their own children there on progeny as their own, like as extensions of themselves. Do I am. She was just some shadow for above his own mind and he's just I'll. Do it her with her whatever I want So in November, nineteen, forty one Walter Freeman and James Watts, who had not yet left Freeman side, perform the proceeds Oh you both of em both MRS back when they were still doing the prefrontal. Lobata me this was not Trans orbital lobata me just yet. Yet this is hard for this. The worst one yeah. Now, at this point,

in the evolution of the Lobata me, Watson, Freeman, had advanced to the point where they were giving patients local anesthetic, but keeping the patient a week during the procedure to test cognitive ability. Oh after shaven her head and drilling holes into the sight of her skull. Freeman asked rosemary to tell stories recite the law, prayer and in a move that will be considered a little too on the nose. If it was in a movie asked, to sing God bless. America

God can you imagine what is it to stop being seen worse, indicating a la bodily from Joe Kennedy Senior well scream singing God bless America by british sure. That's how Michel Bachman does gay conversion therapy to that, but, while rosemary was communicating and Freeman with slicing into our brain with a tool, the attending nurse described as a butter, knife rosemary suddenly became incoherent and stop talking altogether and then that's one year. Whoops wages are what a horrifying horrifying moment just mean like well, but at what price? upon it. You know for a fact: there was a good record producer next Orban dammit. She could have been the next Susan Boil. You went too far in our. She can't sing at all what this is

in the very early death like they done a few dozen lobata me at this point. This was still very much like. Let's what happens, you know they don't have it down. Yet she stopped talking at once. She started being like speaking gibberish and then just went silent altogether. They knew they'd cut too deep. Car was an unmitigated disaster and watching. These two men casually cut into a young woman's brain ass. She lost all cognitive abilities with so disturbing to the attending nurse that she quit the medical profession, altogether immediately afterwards. Oh my dear, I imagine that that's very that's very dramatizing. When rose, finally came to. She had the mental capacity of a two year old child. She couldn't speak, couldn't walk and was in cotton, For the rest of her long long life Joe told no one, what happened

because I feel it goes some way like. Wouldn't you be, I guess you're just got marriages and I imagine the way he views the world. This is probably some sort of unfortunate circumstance right that he, oh what a pity that this happened. Yes, fist, what a shame that the gap in Ireland to the institution they wouldn't just bordered around. I just feel so horrible for the nurse that she had her love of medicine, ruined very similar to what I got my job at Arby's. I love them in Fiji loved to be reaching and on which uses you don't want to see how it aid, yet one once you see the liquefied whatever. That is really ruins it for you, it's pretty close yeah. It's like that. Will Joe sent his daughter to an institution, thirty miles north of New York City and his wife, not to visit her own daughter, so rosemary could get accustomed to her new living arrangement. Jollier, Lhasa, correct and I saw a glove. Tell me how to love doubt turn my job.

They shows yes, yes, I thought you were to ask me with our shoes. Were nice, but we're just gonna yet those our shoes, J, AI, lad under yeah, where the shoes, the shoes, I don't do anything without my husband's permission, well put on your feet. You put them on your head. Never understand is involved, have operated these nepal that miles and measures are never should appropriated with. You family and friends were told that rosemary was off, studying to become involved in social work and rose marries own sister, Yunus didn't know where rosemary was for over a decade? Oh my god. Eventually Joe Kennedy had a cottage built for rosemary at an institution named Saint calamitous. It took two decades Twenty years before rose fine. Visited her daughter and Joe Kennedy

ever saw rosemary ever again and, of course, see collapse. That is the saint of chain smoking and allows saint of chain smoking and really just room temperature coffee so you see collated prayer. Let's get is a very standard thing in this browser household. Were you light a cigarette with a lit cigarette out of Europe Wasn't until after Joe Kennedy had a stroke in nineteen sixty one twenty years after the bottom II that most of us siblings were told where she was, but three years before that one of them had already figured it out while is gearing up to run for President J F K actually went and visited rosemary and Baku he was so moved by her plight. This is actually a good thing, the last p of legislation. J F K signed before he was killed, gave rights too

electrically disabled Americans for the first time in our history, I gotta tell Ya Rosemary I'm looking at the cottage I'm looking the way eleven and I gotta say it's a bomb. because he gets done almost speakers, true because from what we read of Kay. He had his ups and downs, but it seems like a in his insert moments. He was a very good man, and there is also the other moment to live like new running for president and then you're like happen rosemary, I'm a fucking. Presently I know what you told me this shit. We had no clue, but you know in the end they because original the family would sit around the table and have intellectual discourse right. That was a whole thing is that he would fit the family again other Joe Senior would make everybody debate. Children need cited, you win, who want it like who one harass they'd have like sports carpet actions against each other? They would boat rates. All this kind of bullshit and

they already. They always knew that rosemary was never really a part of all this, and at some point you just went away and it just you know the feeling Could I ask those questions earlier? Well, you know what how like? What do you do up against again Joe Senior? I couldn't have very important man. What deal when your parents just take your sister away. It's like I mean it's a tough thing that bring up dinner. I guess I mean that they saw a couple of them did make it up like J F K signed that legislation, Yunus Kennedy, Rosemary sister, founded, better limpets earlier. That makes you say that rosemary wasn't really the inspiration for that, but you could have. I wish you did that we show that we need in his eyes about it. My little brother, he is a special olympic hero, He's been kick ass for a long time. In the nice thing about Special Olympics, you get to you, scream at people because you're their support and your brother,

the loser you're losing like MIKE. It's really fun everyone adds a different level. There is no. Such thing has been disabled, just differently, able and everywhere that everyone has a different level of love to the world out there, of course, as far as how long rosemary life was, she survived not only Oliver sibling save TED, she even survive. J. F, K, Junior Dear Rosa Kennedy died from natural causes on January. Seventh, thousand five worldwide at the age of eighty six I know that you are Sheila the long time was there any could she have Joe? I mean I guess we taught within the libitum series. You feel like nothing right. You feel like no highs and lows socially, just strong of shoes? for by nuns by God? That's any fun, though. We know that what what what we lifelike.

They had they bought or a car. She didn't drive, but they were You know the nuns would take her out on draw on rights where she like she guy could. She was intellectually two years old. You know, so, maybe God so they didn't. She witten did what puffin does for fund puffin was such a great Co. Pilot dog is my oh pile, that's what I say is so good a kill. You cannot have been the biggest sales woman from Michael's I've ever seen, and her lobata me actually became public knowledge before she daddy became public knowledge in nineteen. Eighty seven, while now that's the case of a famous botch. Lobata me another case. Involved a twelve year old boy named how're duly who was given. infamous ice. Pick. Lobata me in nineteen sixty long after all about him he's were considered proper or necessary. Yet these are like

the latter period right. This is when Walter Freeman in parlance of serial killers, he was in his fucking, like frenzy right here, gone full like cook, you try to get as many as possible trying to keep em legit, people were just pay in him money to do them for a because at this point he was like it's a prevent its preventative yeah right to make its own like we took people, get you bad. It isn't a little thing to think thinking whom it at all it is who do you think, caused more harm as a doctor, Harold Shipman or Doktor Friedman going truly because Harold, Jiminey. Obviously, murdered upper over two hundred people. You know freeman. Could I mean because it was tens of thousands of people who are subjected to bodies live lives and do it helped? What was it like? Twenty percent suddenly edit corn, quote helped which just nullified their symptoms. That's I've been really. He probably killed more than

he probably killed more people than Shipman did because libitum he's had a fatality rate of nine percent. No, my god yet so do that math percent of ten thousand Sixty thousand, Henry Henry do that mass killing of number would be for five hundred, ok I'll, take it. Let me show you so tell me anything. these preset times, doing it all my laptop point, nine birth ah point. Ninety point: now fifty four hundred fifty four hundred all right. You irish arouse good, so he has actually one of the biggest serial killers in the history of serial killers. what was it just him: the devil about armies that offers every money? That's ever. That also includes other people like other psychiatrist who were not surgeons. Who performed ice pick libitum. You got your he had, so it's not it's more like if they re

years of the mock arena, if the muck a rain and killed nine percent of the people, writers, Macarena or Lou Beggar, who has killed more people with but never lying out. I want to point out because the member number six is supposed to come out after quarantine, but telling a woman in the case of Howard, Dewey, He was given a la bottom at twelve years old, not because he suffered from any mental problems because he was suffering behavioral problems exacerbated by the abuse of evil step. Mother tongue so, coincidentally pushed for the legitimate when how, was four years old. His biological mother died in childbirth and three After that, his father, re married to a woman named Lou who, but and abusing Howard soon after she moved in. This is like I mean Howard could have gone one of two ways: either lobotomy or so

oh Keller, causes a serial killers mother. She started in Acting Howard's anus regularly and if she didn't What she saw she take awash cloth and vigorously wipe all well complaining about how dirty of a boy he was cited like it mom dearest. My bought all is definitely clean enough. I don't like it, I don't want anybody despair shine now there and I don't want anybody. Reflective no is bad for John absolutely not who and how it was bad. Lou would take down his pants drape him. Her knee and Spain bear bought all while scream and about how he was every kind of more on in the world. By the way more on, comes from eugenics. Nor given medical classification Did I thought I thought it was something like

That's too stupid even say I was going to say something like there's a lot arrives and that's a moron there's morons than than tat. I think I've ever seen in my life, and I move line of this is what I am saying. This is the type of tests that would be, minister to you. You are scientifically more like you know about me and others morons than there are TED's up. You are legal moral will eventually this rankings escalated bid to being beaten with metal vacuum, cleaner House Ceausescu's, get horribly abused closer and these vacuum cleaners. Now, just so flimsy young, beat any with this is here. This is a nineteen sixties vacuum cleaner when people bought stuff for life. Do you remember that Your parents, like you're gonna, have that forever and then I'll warmer was like, but when you throw it away in six months and by a new shit always fall apart built to fall apart.

We was Howard, wasn't bad kid he'd. I mean The worst thing he does. He like scaring people, he liked hide behind doors and, like jump out for like a little fun scare, that's funny I like to do only that sometimes need steel food, because Lou forbade eating between official meals. Oh my god come on you're, just a kid he's just a kid, but because he is treated like a bad kid. He started acting like a bad kid right. He started shoplifting and in a move that is very common amongst sexually abused children. He started playing with his own feces alot of sexually abused kids. Do that? If you see I do in that call, the police, it's the truth and we're take because they are taught this weird obsession with their by mean of the goat, Then they are being molested, essentially he's being molest rivalry, Howard was taken to see. Psychiatrists so them by records all

Ex said. Howard was just a normal kid and four of those six said that the problem was very specifically stepmother, Lou right so Luke. searching for someone to tell her that she was right and eventual She found Walter Freeman, ah see where the sick, these freeman was pretty much out of the game as it, Answers and medication had made the lobata me obsolete. As far as the public went, he was no longer the new science kid on the scene. If a lot appear. He had lost his job at D, w you and people. or finally startle exact, hey Party public should have been doing that, nobody should have been doing right. So Fremont but perhaps a new past irrelevance. Notoriety would be not The bottom is to adult with mental problems, but inside giving them to children, Morally, he had like a Eureka moment. Words like

that's too had this like idea that he could stop whenever quoting called behavioral problems in a child, because this is at the time when they would stop like a kid who was bad and I couldn't verbally cortical battered like literally either board Roy acting out or this kind of the big just behavioral problem, They started saying some like yeah schizophrenia like these started, calling them like labeling them with very intense man. This order a lot of times. They were just normal kids that were either. Excess energy or being abused or had other things going on, but when you're six, I dont know if you can this gets up right now. I don't know, I think, that's just that's horrible. I mean I take it for me. I'm a father of a wave of foster father of a nine month old dash on Chihuahua. Kids are crazy really are, is insane, but when they sleep it makes up or doesn't it. This appeal: I didn't want you, I always watch

It's late, the dog, the dog, Burma they do it. so in lieu and Howard showed up at Freeman Office. Freeman ignored anything that Little Howard had to say and even ignored the fact that most of his behaviour was normal. He instead did to listen solely to the evil stepmother, because her narrative with easily shaped into childhood schizophrenia, and we do have declared a lot of that mothers are amazing. The majority of stepmother's out they're, happy mother's day, because

Do other mother. You too you to our mother. Yes, stop having sex with the kids back illegal, your tone. There are warning, they don't know how to masturbate there in school from their poem from bottom school. I had a Meda being stopped the stop blow. A new step can also horn of port have has got to get better because I don't want to have to do all this. I don't have to yell at you porn up, but porno or not. It is very bad right now and we have to be technically. We have to boycott porn important because they need figure out there. They are child pornography. Bullshit was only if the only there was another outlet to find porn. where I find it most, as the other family members want, how Father later claim that Freeman and his wife Lou had manipulated him into believing that procedure was safe and normal, and he also said this is probably more the truth. Lou told them that either the boy gets a la bonhomie or she gets

divorce gives always in, and you get the fuck em about me. You know that she was just so lovely around her. Why have actually don't particular understand this whole line of thought? The one thing I can maybe speak too is that there is like he thought that, like we, and handle the children this other old school. Like thought line and its well ever she says, goes because she's she's on the kid department I go to the bullet factory, and I got more and I just ride die. I do the interesting thing is that the change right in culture? If, if fathers used to sort of be in charge of the whole family, including the children, I guess it's some- dad's we're just like you now I dont care anymore, like just You take care of it, and so Howard went in for a Trans, orbital lobotomy at twelve years old, cause. Freeman was still working with his old electroshock machine that remember had no dials and no toggle. It took four

sounds of electroshock before that twelve year old boy, finally passed out so Freeman could do the ice pick into his eyeballs use his electroshock machine like the the prairie mother. What's her name there is that it its prairie chef, the prairie chef cooks, rather than they did lit a bit a handful. That's all you need. I dont use measuring and it's like. No man, that's now that's how you should be shocking. The human brain now should be as casual as pesto recipe. Well, it's a great way to make an unbelievable home, cooked biscuit, but yeah, What I mean Freeman was proud of this. You can find pictures online of Howard duly getting this lobata me because Freeman was documenting, though, That is one of the most disturbing pictures. I've ever seen. It's a twelve year old boy passed off from electro shock therapy, his eyes, a role in the back of his head and all you see as an ice pick coming from of the frame going into his fuckin brain.

So Freeman Beach of the iceberg in both sockets did the standard, wiggle and perform about me on a boy whose brain had not even fully developed. Yet she is now as we Freeman was still gasping for relevance, so in an attempt to regain the spotlight he gave up. Haitian at the Langley Porter Clinic in San Francisco, and actually brought how on stage along with other children. Freeman have libitum Ized Howard, but was by no means the only child that he didn't. He did know about me on a four year old kid he didn't make, it is haunting as possible. He put them all and Harlequin outfits and in weird erasing ashen I'd like to buy the world a Coke skeleton man come out like you wish you

die and maybe clapped and they loved be voted for Nixon for President, that's Moran, our Doktor Freeman beg you, those such a great addition to the Tell tale and show next up tiny TIM and after a tiny TIM. We have David Ike come out here that olive oil, so after talking to forbid about the procedure and asking the Lobata my children a few questions to prove that he hadn't destroyed their brains completely. He opened the door he opened it up to the audience for questions first, question: How old is that kid- pointing to Howard Freeman said twelve, the ADI oh Rob, did an outrage: blue. It's like it's a standard know their staying burned always do. This is actually the only if this is a redeeming part of the story where people rightfully were pissed yeah. seems, like Freeman was prepared for this reaction because Freeman,

ever the showman had brought along a prop as soon as the audience turned on him, Freeman dumped above, of Christmas cards from great for patients on the stage. He then you and this is a true quote- pays off. Patients have any questions gods. Do you get from your patients, your basing your entire practice and its relevance, Z on Christmas cards? They all so we're all made like infantile, feeble people that were forced to write Christmas cards to the doktor. I don't think a lot of them even right. Now. This now They didn't turn the crowd and Freeman was booed off stage and I That was his last public appearance. What does this mean I'm thirty. Fourth street, the same defence first ethical US, then, in order to further justify his decision to a Howard, duly Freeman added a new. Two Howard's file Post

the bottom II that said, Howard was suspected of beating his baby brother, nearly two death breaking ribs and in the baby's chest, others did happen, but Howard had nothing to do with it. It had been an accident of neighbourhood boy. And playing a little too rough and Howard was nowhere near shot, Freeman thought. If I write this down afterwards, then this will justified what a piece of shit. Amazingly though Howard we after many hard years in and out of institutions and a brief dalliance of cocaine in the eighties who live in it. He ended up, live in a pretty good life and even wrote a book about his experience called my Lobata me, of course, that road was highly difficult and filled with all sorts of awful shit. That you'll have to read a book to discover this lot of Patchett is was a series of calamities. An end is fuckin, just bad luck,

but still he made it and the reason why comes with a fair amount of irony see Walter Freeman had this unnecessary procedure, while Howard's brain was still developing a human being. Doesn't fully develop, I think, until you're in your late teens early twentyth, some pretty sure seventy two years old immediately is drastic collapse right and because the brow was putting itself together, it essentially adapted to ice pick ones and found new ways to stitch itself up the reason why this is ironic is because this is exactly what YE gas Mon as they arise, the brain would do back when he originated the Lobata me except an adult brain is not capable of regeneration. Gas is theory could not have been more wrong, so he was still wrong. Maybe was eat raw. He was wrong in a way that could have been right if he was right.

But then wrong. Instead Freeman Phlebotomy unduly would have incapacitated an adult mri scans done in two thousand five showed that all This almost teenage lobata did was make life harder for Howard, duly good. Lord will now I'm glad that we don't have to worry about it now, because the medical world and the world of private health insurance, so much star, so getting orangist, they were doing. good. I think it's great that a lot of coverage a lot of private insurance companies are covered covert. Nineteen, I think people should. I think they should go work in a factory at a doctor factory where there

king lab coats and mass in order to receive treatment. I think that the only fair way to do it's great. You know I've been spending five days on the phone arguing with an insurance company. To give me a medication that my psychiatrist says is necessary for me to live a normal, healthy life and I couldn't be happier about mark, as I think you need all of autonomy or is of course, the medication that that is a whore the jewish we're gonna dogma that enable could stop at when it comes to the medication, their charge about seven hundred bucks a pill. That's what the efforts billets can we go for. I made my new medication costs out of pocket. Twelve hundred dollars a month doesn't pays and I'm having to argue with my insurance to tell them that its necessary more lobata, these more libitum answer. Oh my god, While I was going to say

I wouldn't do not try to find other things to talk about, because I was really interested. The idea of other people hiding their children yeah and the one fun. When I found you sounded more worry of good there was one fund one, but it was just it's not that fun. It was called the monster of globs it's mine dash for some authority in magazine dot com- and it is It's a fascinating story about this, a family line in Scotland that duty, the Earls Ancestral, seated blossoms castle rightness was that this place where they were, they earn of strap more where they had a a room. Did they apparently had hid a air to the family line that had become like a half toad half man, creature and it became the sort of ghost story many years and subsequent generations of each following family member there. become the Earl of strap more. We try to find out if it was true or not and find

because a lot of castles at the time had secret room specifically for they were gonna, be attacked, essentially panic rooms so is not uncommon for people to have these sort of like secret air, where they can go and hide, and they would not tell anybody where they were. They were normally family secrets and they said that they had buried essentially this and this one air, That was two reprehensible to look upon, which is now, if you think, upon It is actually very sad. This is aside question, which you are three I guess so exactly aside caused in which three all that's fine, it's really fun. Eighty one story, but again it deeply sad. You, ok, if you can have a half toad, half man king in the so glum. Then what can you have? The option?

and I want a half hour- worship the half toad king. I am, I am to have towed gear. We would be a calf consider to have toad king because I got fuckin bow legs. That's for Jack. He told me recently a thunderbolt likes until they can fuck and think about what you put another. Complex in my mind? You need a lot of it and then the others too. I'm gonna give you this resource just because, like it's gonna be a bummer of July. Fourth, we can so when it just really fuckin bear yourself and worship you ve ever read: that's called age S, invisible children, dot, Org, and it's called home schooling, invisible children and is about behaviors of home school in Ghana. That is not always horrible. Now humble it seems that sometimes it is our own home. For two years we had a great time. Are you I would go to Piggly we glue with my mother. We never went to school. I didn't learn anything. Maybe you almost didn't learn to read I knew how to read. I picked it up very. Very quickly. Reading was never a problem. It was more. the math it the math. That was the problem.

And that's why you're not an engineer right now now, no definitely not definitely not, but yet first of all, I would look at it too, but that the monster of globs is really it's a very interesting. That was look what I was looking for more of us like gothic stories and there's not a lot of up, because they deem that story. I that concept has come up. Quite a bit infection this is the one that was like everyone's kind of saying was real and that their there's couple details into it We all covered on sites or is little bit more odd. more detail or may be less progress until a proper can do something along the lines of gothic literature made real? Who, like that idea, sound and twelve all right everyone there it s a bit of an extent. You not our lobata, make conversation absolute fascinated, I'm very high, be, they aren't happening anymore. If you know, if you know that they are happening anywhere, skull shot that I They are our great privilege, extreme cases for very, very extreme,

I also had a lot of people reach out to me about then. I have been using easy. Tea now nowadays than it has helped them quite a bit. So that's that is gotten Harry refined in terms of how they use it. It still weird that they don't know how it works. No, I May I talk to my psychiatrist recently about yeah. You know us making the joke about how my medication might stop at any time. Music hoeyer we're in the middle ages when it comes to understanding the brain we're out of the dark ages, but poor devil in the middle ages. We have no idea what sort of telling me these things just how things are covered. Ok, I need you to enlighten me right now. Until I get my proscription, so lonely, right, everyone. Well, we hope you enjoy your July fourth weekend to the best of your abilities, get some sparklers and hang out with people that are close to you, that you been with you. No other frickin rules. We don't have to tell you that I wasn't Steve Rural Show and outlaw country

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