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their forthcoming work peril. Bob woodward and robert constant claim that the chair of the joint chiefs, general mark mealy, fear trump, might go rogue after losing the election and told you
military officials that they should get his permission to launch news and secretly contacted a top general in
I know that there is some dispute about the way it's characterized by our woodworking causa then mill
recited, his wife's dying words, which the chinese general had told him in the future after the heapt pods had left. Now I am
in both arrival and this book, I'm reading to different books at the same time may have gotten them. Can bravest
I think I fucked that sounds totally plausible, though, what's crazy, is that, like not like, I didn't even bat, an eye. I was just like okay, the hexapod as well
You know it's crazy. Is this
got. You said that I was like shit, I didn't
listen? The CNN yesterday, some clearly I miss like. I didn't even
it was so not surprising that that could it happen that out of my mind, went to like I'm the idiot they didn't watch a noose yesterday. I think the best jokes are incomprehensible and require special knowledge to understand
I'd say you know, you're really dealing with an ape plus bit of material. So after this news broke, trump went on news max to calm Billy's decision treason later calling
trader and a dumb ass dog ass
He has also what they he state presidential has remained presidential he's, not changing. So what
they call him a dumb ass
and then
and then another and then and thereby here's what I think I think as if I think that he just being milly
credibly later in law to get to a miley. Cyrus thing, of course, trump is the same. Every single thing
tromp has ever done has worked like he's
he's a mediocre intelligence, limited ability. He is wealthy and he was the president.
Why would he change all the incentives have worked for him exactly the strip psyche?
is fairly upward, veiling upwards. Yes, that is the story availing up where's that that is the thing isn't. Meanwhile, republicans have apparently been spreading a rumour that someone is the ability to push the button and cut the feed
Joe Biden, goes off script to the point where senator
James rice, as secretary of state tony blinkin, somebody in the white house, his authority to press the button and cut off the president's
making ability and sound? Who is that person? My quest,
in this way is this is this somebody came in, I said, is the sudden unrelated to nicky menage business,
on a related conspiracy? This is
you are senators actually believing that there is a person whose job it is to cut off Joe Biden mike when he goes off script. But my question is: if there is
person. Why haven't they
fired for literally never share of the work they give
your quieting Joe Biden. When he's saying things, he shouldn't be saying: what are these
a man says wild shit every single day,
it's crazy to me that moving at this point, you can say just about anything and somebody at some level of power will latch onto it and be like that's good. That's, let's go with that. Let's run with that yeah there's nothing that you could say that was too ridiculous anymore. It is like there's this big kind of proud source conspiracy, theory thing, that's tat
hang on social media and right wing, radio and all the rest and he's like kind of theories but
lab and then a few of them get grabbed
to buy means my politician. Sometimes they grab onto one and they kind of let it go like yield. You'll see one pop up for a second and then edit or disappear. Although sweat, right, though switch from like hydroxide chloric when those switched
I remember him, and I just want to say all the listeners out there who decided to take to twitter to correct me for saying ever mountain. Thank you so so
I almost made it to the end of my entire fucking life,
without fixing that I was so close and you stopped it. Thank you
was that you were saying ever met him. I was in every sector and for how long
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I read the right some ass. I will read it out now right. I read the news. I see it in an words right or not, and I dont tell I get my ever met to ever met a noose are,
be the written word. A lost arts ass, if
You start a war with a vow. It should be the full value not just like that. Out of love to have a hard ones had scattered all one hour, a vow hard.
That's where we say April
examines shit. I ain't plateaus april.
Insulin, but those are the only words it's our vows. We thought of those
gotta get, but that's it otherwise, our even if
this senator was right to ask tony blinkin about the person secretly. Turning off Joe Biden MIKE tony
lincoln, not gonna, be able to say much before the person in charge of turning off his might write its shadow government all the way down, but clearly whoever is turning off. The mike's is asleep at the wheel yeah. So this
Sweden is not turning off anyone's mike's, who ass to a centre from idaho, decided in a hearing about afghanistan to ask the secretary of state who is in charge of turning off Joe Biden microphone,
that is not real are based in evidence, because Joe Biden is a popular and unifying figure. They have really struggle to come up with an attack against Joe Biden that is effective, so the only thing they can do is attacked
I'm a harris attack. The deep state attack people around Joe Biden and then say Joe Biden, is too enfeebled and
discompose populated and siena? It's an odd strategy, because Biden has done things that are worthy of genuine criticism. Yes,
my words withdraw from Afghanistan just to complete fuck up. Can I say to you so the places where they could genuinely criticized by at an really go after him. So the fact
the choosing to actually
on nebulous theories about men sitting in a corner. Turning off his make, I dont know why they would choose to go for a fabrication
now something so crazy when they actually have real sceptic go after their speaking to their base. I think there's a conspiratorial
set, that's always value, but also yummy
on top of all that, it's it's silly another way too, because all it does is. It lowers expectations for Joe Biden me. They did this throughout the campaign and like Joe Biden, who has actually
spoken eloquently and publicly and honestly about struggling with
or his whole. Life like there are moments when his speeches halting people know that they understand that, but they consume
Joe Biden senile. He can't be president. Then he goes to the microphone. Does is Joe Biden thing and it's a little loosen some sentences. Don't have p
at the end of them, but like they ve set the bar at
full blown dementia. Meanwhile, the last year republican presidents could not finish a sentence.
Jimmy was gave a speech on the nine lemon anniversary really reminded me about like wow by not miss that kind of halting
delivery where it feels as though he sort of x
period seeing many of these words for the very first time in his life, and I remember when he was because when when did he, he became president who thousands I just
college and I murmured like how is this possible yeah howard,
people not hearing when I'm hearing this is the least articulate figure.
Ever seen in my life, I will say: thou wert. There is one of the funniest things I have ever seen a politician. Do georgia be bush, I think, as president was at some giant kind of rally were vent were, was taking questions. Ah something that also feels
wait. Someone got up there and gave a rambling and incoherent and very long non question question about immigration reform and the importance of not having people take jobs from americans and what's going on at the border and how she's sick of what's happening in this country. But at the same,
immigrants are people and they deserve respect, resist very emotional and maudlin. In long speech and ass, she finished
and he just went immigration
and then just gave his immigration answer, but he kind of made like a snake with his hands are kind of biting snake and he went immigration. Immigration
immigration, visualizing, his checklists, yes, but I loved about a two of this woman gave a heartfelt like three to four minute speech and he disregarded a complete
the interest, summed it up as immigration
and he had this shit eating grin on his face because he knew what he was doing and he knew his staff was seeing him do it and I will say I appreciated it. I did I appreciate what was happening
You saw the man,
The current right, you saw the guys
We say to him like no matter what they ask. You does good you're, talking point sam, don't get sucked into anything
The conversation with people because you'll lose
Don't try to answer actual questions, because you will fail just
the thing that you ve been taught to say:
that we worked on, and this is where the problem with tromp was a human
tell him that and then he would just go ahead and just completely go off script in and then
say what everyone? Maybe there were people that they considered to palm
prompt mike, and maybe this is why, for them, it's it's a conceivable thing:
it could happen because it should have, though they've thought of it every time they project every fucking time right. I do think it's funny too. Sometimes we were like god what happened to america? Why are things going so badly and it's like I dunno
maybe having two of the worst human beings to ever hold the job in the span of twenty years, causing fuckin problems that you worse president's at a hundred years, we're like brok, obama fuckin sandwich like maybe that was the problem,
that's the issue we have brought
obama, trump and bush bread sought is a terrorist.
america should again kido on that sandwich.
Everyone in this room, everyone in this room, has mass on but are shaking their head now. Speaking of
directorial a reactionary politics. The capitol police confirmed they will be erecting fences around the. U s: capital ahead of Saturday september, eighteenth rally for trump supporters arrested in the january six riot. The fences are expected to stay in place until after
the December third rally per trump supporters arrested in the september eighteen three at sea,
but I do see that, like ice, listen to the with the guidelines, organizing this valley of the now he thou, claiming that this is to defend the people.
well yeah who were arrested, join us january sixth cause. It's super unfair. It's not right that people storm our government and try to overthrow our democracy and then get arrested. For that, like is that the thinking behind this route, I'm asking you useless, and I'm explaining that I dunno. If you know this about america, but we have a two tiered system of justice, one that treats people fairly alright and one for white people, so there
Basically, this kind of fair, big system of justice where everyone supervenient airs one for white republicans with pick up trucks
who own small businesses and drive to DC. To take what I consider to be basically just kind of unapproved
of the kapital. I think they're riot, and this thing about insurrection has gone a bit too far. These were unsanctioned tours. Yes, these were unsanctioned super spread or tourist. That's what we're talking about here,
so yeah I mean I think, they're pretty upset about and they are just like. Why is there not its war today, while because their congresses insertion in their holdings
thing and enter they will. I know we pay for the two we pay for the door with our taxes and I think what probably also happen in part is everyone saw a screen
in short list man with a painted face.
And a fur
had on Zan, I follow me and he had, and even though he wasn't, it was a weird outfit confidence. I com
I can get you into any spasm, hasn't done that who hasn't followed that guy in their lives. In a metaphor, accents many jobs. That's what's really going on. I mean these are people being unfairly persecuted for what basically amounts to and in appropriately timed walking tour. That's wrong
wrong. I can see what I can already see. The kind of woke twitter, sculled sang, wait, several people were killed and it stopped the democratic process and they did try.
Hang the vice president of the united states and
I'll say as I'm sick of this kind of like vicious partisanship.
And I don't want you to go into the archives of variety, but you'll find in two thousand and fourteen a little pilot by a guy named John lovett about a situation in which there are
an election. They are bad and there were two presidents and I
Oh that thing everybody said I was crazy and then I,
Stone didn't write it for a year and they let me make it,
but that's hollywood.
that's hollywood!
I bet I said. Oh no we'd, better start a podcast, I'm running out of money- and here I am onto
The demographic I may want to cut all that on tuesday, eight immigrants and is then it rolled out a compromise voting rights bill, the compromise being with Senator Joe mentioned, which means once again it is time for Joe mansion to set sail in search of ten reasonable republicans to vote for it. It's like watching a
whose owners moved across town show up at the old house and scratch at the door? They're gone Joe Josh lives here now you, your family, doesn't leave you anymore.
sheriff tribonius fuckin dead right,
Bob dole and gingrich is gone yet Gingrich the good old days
graham when full tromp man, your pals, have changed the people of change abdul.
In Texas abortion man to stand justice, Amy, coney barrett defended this report this week, claiming they aren't a bunch of partisan hacks. You also added
and I never got nor mcdonald- I really know why she said that meanwhile, just
Stephen breyer told fox news sunday, I don't plan to die in the court and then he added
really got nor mcdonald again for
reason not complete non sequitur.
even briars on such a weird booked or of imaginative. You wrote a book and-
every interview. Someone said: will you stop doing comedy for the good of the country?
like everywhere else
stephen wire gauze, someone's ike. Well, thanks a lot for the book. Can you please leave your job immediately that medium president and his eyes like now? I don't think so. I'm gonna give you in it
I know that people want to stop. I don't want to stop. I like my job, here's the problem, if I so doing my job, the thing that is the
sum. Total of my life is over.
and I'm not ready to accept that song.
Gamble with everything I value
this job. I have to confront the fact that
I now know the sum total of my contributions to the american experiment, and if I do that, I have to come to grips with the fact that I might die soon and I don't want it, not
just it, I'm gonna keep doing it, and I know that quite recently, my colleague Ruth better Ginsburg tried the same thing and she died job
it's too early and that fucked up a lot of shit in fact
lived a little bit longer or retired,
couple years earlier, women would still have basic rights in texas,
by law, but I dont think about prob.
Is being real, I think of him being fun, thought experiments and my jobs about thought experiments, and so I just sit in my little computer and I think what if we did this and what, if we did that and whose logic and philosophy and different
think he sits at his computer, thinks that I think there's a computer in the room yeah. I think there is a computer somewhere there's a computer, keeping him alive Stephen brier time to retire or
say it every week. I don't think he listens. Can I tell you something? I have repeated
Lee tweeted, something along the lot. Whenever there is an article about Mitch Mcconnell saying I will turn this supreme court into a rabbit, right wing group of monsters and
thinking sought me. I always tweet. Hey
Somebody show this to justice Stephen briar, where he lives in outer space measures that go to for me and then the other day. He gave an interview where he said
I just want everybody to know that there's a lot of considerations, but I don't plan to die on the court and I don't live in outer space or anything, and I have this little fantasy that I'm
bullying, Stephen briar, and I don't think it's all ignite all job. I have this fantasy that much
terrible. Tweets are getting on stephen buyers, nerves and, while I deep down, no, that is in troops- and I just enough to keeping on you know it may be that
your tweets are actually the inspiration that just keeps him alive.
And just keeps him like, I'm not gonna die on the score. It may be that do you think it was a myth.
echo. My friend dared me to run up behind ruth bader Ginsburg unsafe, boo
Meanwhile, on Monday, a day before the results of the california recall, action related to exist, Larry elders campaign promoted a website. That said, they detected fraud in the results,
for the results
This website reminds me of the film tenant-
that it only makes sense if you got paid to make it as if I have
joke in the style of tenant right? Are you
Rita, I die experimental. This is this is over my eggs. I dont notes and here's all you need to know about tenant right because backwards. Ok, that's it! Sometimes
go backwards. Sometimes you go forwards like benjamin, but it's a sure. The point is some
actors moved backwards through time? Some characters move forward through time, but it doesn't make sense why? What
That's the jest- and I would just say it's unaids, rio max- and you know, check about ya yeah here
isn't that we raise the difficulty, because you haven't seen tenant year ago. Can
brown eyes russian accent in the film tenant.
go Rubia who said once trump couldn't be trusted with nuclear weapons called on general mark merely to resign because he didn't trust truck with nuclear weapons. Margaux Rubio, these guys
less consistent, then
Am I supposed to make debated chatted reference made? I know it already came earlier.
I a guy
I just want you to know something outside all this tunnel. I know that all is that we must leave it in and let me tell you why there is.
Precision, halley brian kendra. Nobody was for this
there was no champion, for they were like they. They said he might not have seen ten, that's exactly what I say, and then it will not work. That's exactly what they see, as you have just embarrassed and embarrassed yourselves
and I said I said now- come on everybody's thou tenet who didn't turn it please.
retire,
for the good of the country, the garbage michel, don't do it
don't worry. I'm gonna die on the spot. I just did just dangers
no that's too bad. I'm sorry, I'm sorry! I haven't seen it yet. Don't you apologize alright, but now that you've explained it, it's really funny. You know what I also could have set up earlier, probably would have helped to Kenneth Branagh,
is in the film. Almost all right, terrible russian exit is always
I, this it's worse than mine, honestly, my standard for whether I should be doing my russian action on the show is the one kenneth browner does
time and does russian act. That is more caricature than my yuri gagarin turnouts health minister.
To come forward to denounce the rumour spread by nick immunology, explaining as far as we know at this point in time there
been no such reported either side effect or adverse event
Here's my problem with their sorry. Do I believe that making menage his cousins friend
swollen bosnia vaccine. I don't, but I all
don't believe that the trinidad health minister knows about every case of international swelling balls are right. I dont think
as that kind of data. I dont
but that is collected or organised. I won at pitched too netflix
the limited series there is about
the trinidad and health minister trying to figure out if there's a bit.
eddie, testicular, swelling cases it anywhere in the world. Here's what we're taking those calls its now cause
It's cinderella. You
around and you look for the balls. It's like
I saw the biggest balls I've ever seen. The night
supposed to pick my prince
you know, I could just see the tuna daddy and health minister calling his counterparts in denmark
and showed me so then,
your Carl's and made an honor appeal to make immunology cousin for him to step forward.
unveiled the balls, but then the next day took had to go to the airway set. The record straight saying: Nicky, massages cousins, testicles, not sworn as far as we know, he's fine
Nicky, massages cousins, friends, testicles! Worse,
one from taking the facts now this
integrity. Do you think this is like, mrs, like big when you say to your friend like this, and I have a friend and he's got these
giant ball dialogue, and you want to be like it's you right now. No, I think it's it's. My friend
my friend buddy, it's you, I get it. I get it. You want to try it's like you know it's it's that kind of where he
it up a friend, I think someone out there got chlamydia two weeks of forest
having made up a lie, and then
all of a sudden. Tucker girls is talk out on fox news, the absent
hands down worst case scenario for ally
absolutely worst scenario for a lie, is you tell a little lie and then you think what's the worst second happen?
cousin, Nicky minaj finds out. What are the odds
What are the odds that if I
make up his little story to keep my wedding other bugsy. I know I had sex with someone who hang committee. I went there and gave me clytia what are the odds that my friend tell
his cousin, who tells his cousin Nicky menage, greatly
international firestorm surrounding misinformation around the vaccine, what are the odds, their roots, yeah, remote? And the point is
I'm glad, Tucker karlsson corrected it, I'm just glad that technical, listen as taken.
Stories are seriously as men.
I'm really dug deep and really like taken hold of those giant balls rung with it? I start causing might say good night and good luck with your fucked up ass follows
the country's collective dry heave last week, CBS as the activists will be reworked from a the competition into a documentary special ah, which is which is sort of annoying because, like I invented six, wig reveals to stop climate,
age and I'll never get to use them. You know. I'm in here is something that I wanted to have an opportunity to say out loud, hey, gretta, tune burg, milan,
I didn't come here to make friends bitch. I came here to win
That would have made great, would re lala just go fisticuffs
like Malala, straight to camera. Being like honestly, greta is a little bit cocky
last challenge and I'm afraid she's not taking this week's event, which is a comedy roast seriously enough, because when we did our
it is with bruce flash. He was not laughing and she's walking around work is protest entirely on her look, a girl
don't worry about your look. You have to tell these jokes to root immoral, so Lala came up to me and she was like what should I do in my speech. I'm not sure if I should try to become media or try to go for serious, and I told her that she should try to be comedic because, honestly,
I don't think she can pull it off and frankly, she's tough competition. Sorry Malala, we may be friends here, but
I came here to forget when
or co founders. Seed Wozniak has started a company that is loosely placed on the drag queen. Fifty four
I believe season four of drag race
everybody
apple, loner stew? And what's that
that is later I'll be watching the ep
at home with Malala cause will be friends after the show and then all of essential see me in this moment. Being such a fucking asshole like I trusted you, oh yeah, I trusted you. I thought we were friends that were hanging out posts, filming and amp, seeing this, and it's going to be really awkward in the reunion that they all have exactly or exactly
I was crying like I thought we were girls. Apple co, founder steve was niac, has started a company called privateer to clean up space debris,
of trash in outer space. Is your goal star with that independence day stacy
oh
to make nicely john, also
week. Billy I wish were oscar dealer rendered to the macao on the condition that they swear off using for in perpetuity. She said if you,
Refer your
bad guy, nice ideas. Glad you did that
seems that you really got them to capitulate.
Was it your quaint issue to me for it's like from a pre climate change era of of activism like like back when we used to have animals yeah, oh you're, going to save one mink is like
Are there any left right? Then sorry? Oh, you stop one made for me a bad news. They all drowned anyway, what's happening with the mink links that doesn't matter and finally
german scientists have successfully trained cattle to use a special cow toilet in an attempt to reduce,
industries environmentally toxic urine waste
as part of a new policy called the green,
who deal wait. Cows are using toil at nice.
A girl? I wonder I almost like a guy, you know
Is there a constant? Yes, I know, but your right, that brain is like wait. A minute cows are using toilet cause. I can get my eighteen month old to use the fucking toilet, so I'm
I hope my wife doesn't find out that cows are actually using toilets, she's gonna fucking freak yeah. I think they figured out how to get these cows to use the toilet wow an hour to get these bulls to lift the seat. Am I right
love. You gotta, get writers
I think that's what their job as actual lack the laugh
In my view, this is so much fun. Thank you. So much for being here are exactly when we come back as required.
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It was good to see you good to see you two resident in California like that being in my bio and most important, more important aspect for today. I also do want to say before we start, I have been loving the podcast. I think it is so great and one of the things that you've been talking about a lot, I think, is the kind of inter
section of polarization principle
of democracy and whatever the fuck.
happening in estate, either you kind of return to that a lot. So, let's start with the recall, we did it.
We stopped moneyed interest.
from using kind of fringe politics to you,
a kind of nightmare, funhouse, mirror plebiscite to replace a damn
credit governor in a democratic state, with a
wing radio host. What a victory-
There have been many heartaches, but, as someone who was, I think, been thinking
about what makes California a tough place to govern and what direct democracy does
to california. What was your reaction to this are tremendous victory.
When in doubt that nightmare funhouse plebiscite was actually the name. My college ban it did it didn't really take off. Is good
Look I appreciate this lane, the soft on the plate. For me, back in early july, I published a column at times and at the top of the column, was what got that
whose attention, right it was sort of these early paul, showing that you could have newsome looser. We call not because californians wanted him out, but because there were
a disproportionate
should a number of likely voters who wanted him out republicans for more enthusiastic and at that point paying attention that chain
just as we got up to it, but is about
after the comma is really important to me, because the recall to me
shows why a lot of california is governance, outcomes, stone and up the way you want them, and so on
goes back to this early progressive period, you know her I'm johnson early twentieth century and what you have happening then
is railroad. Interests have completely bought the entire governance structure,
for they own the legislature they on the governor and so
Johnson and others build a bunch of direct democracy ideas into the california political structure. You have the recall
have initiatives right where you can put propositions on the ballot about the main. You can also do the same thing: referenda on laws I mean the citizens can take out laws now the problem.
with this sort of theorizing about direct democracy is. It implies a citizen re that wants that much constant involvement back and forth
going on politics which, if you
Our somebody who believes in democracy- and I am very much somebody who believes in democracy it is
comfortable to say it doesn't work. It is uncomfortable to say that this doesn't work
actually ends up happening again and again is a good idea.
Promote democracy, decay and I really want to emphasize word decay into avenues
that organise interests and non representative actors used to impede democracy or overturned
represented form of government, and this,
all the way down to the local level. A lot of california housing problems, its problems bill.
Having a high speed rail com, because power
Finally, there is a strain of progressive exempted, is so afraid of a captured government that it frank,
power tries to say,
with the way we're going to keep organizing interests from having powers at create all these avenues for direct democracy and then the organized interests which can be anything from just local homeowners, all the way up to say, uber and
rewriting how their own employees will be looked at into their stay constitution. They
organize and use these avenues that that other people are ignoring and end. The recall is almost an example of that gave you like theirs to pieces.
One is the kind of the ways in which direct democracy rewards people with money. People pay
tension and the other is veto points. A veto point in the system that that would exist under our currency
regardless of whether or not something comes up for a referendum,
I do think what they both have a common, and you talked about this as well. Is it like it relies on this? As you said, they'd like this myth that, like everyone's gonna pay attention and everyone's gonna pay attention, it's gonna work now,
was always, I think, a problem. I don't think you can point any
point in our history, where this direct democracy was like running
well, but I dont think its
incidents that we had many efforts to recall a governor in this state, but the only two that have been successful,
I leave to go into the electorate, one of which obviously resulted in governor.
towards a nigger. Have taken place in recent years as our kind of information systems have become more fractures and fractured. What
old. Does our current kind of information ecosystem
kind of noise in it make this direct democracy problem worse so
One thing people study California, democracy will tell you- is that
one reason these things have become more effective and more constant. Is it in
industry has arisen around them. That for
long time they were just there there in the constitution, people use them. Sometimes interests use them, but it's only
the past four or five decades,
that a real industry in california prettiness thirty years has
risen. That knows how to do this. Are you paying money and they get you the signature? Is you need to get on the ballot you pay me
and they get you on tv right into those two things are really important when you are trying to get too. I think it's twelve percent
The people voted in the last election. To get the recall, that's really
difficult before you have mass media, but
If mass media and tv and people you can pay to get the signatures, then it's not
the question of
busy awesome, then it's not a question of popular uprising. Then it's a question of taking it
mr preexisting, partisan or paid networks in order to push us
your advertising on facebook, you're advertising on youtube you're, using all these ways to reach people such as a twelve percent threshold that meant
Thing to reach in nineteen forty two and mean something very different in twenty twenty one:
and so I it's the convergence of those things partially party polarization, but but more. I think in this case more significantly, it is H
through consultant in california political class. He does pay off to do this with mass media
makes a lot easier to reach the thresholds. You need to get the stuff on the ballot. All of this sort of these chow,
in governing, are taking place in a state that now has a
by a majority of Democrats in the legislator has a democratic governor. If you like
Publicans and maybe tories have like roughly the same amount of power in this
stayed at this point and like it feels almost like a fantasy.
or engage progressives like a world without republicans, and yet there was a pause
in the atlantic this week, I believe by two housing advocates: darrell owen and mohammed all maldon. That would basically said why afghan refugees
actually welcome in california- and I thought it did a really great job of capturing both our practical challenges and the kind of
mine, games progressives have to play in california
basically saying it's all well and good,
If you put a refugees, welcome sign on your lawn in california, but they're not welcome, because there's no housing, because it cost way too much that their voice
in california that the government suggests is a good place for refugees to come because very few places where anyone can afford
housing. What do you see as a way of unlocking this disconnect because I think it so
that's at the core of so much of the kind of sclerosis in this state. This
progressive, mindedness in the abstract and yet anti
housing policies, nimby,
is on the failure to build. We can only get a high speed train from bakersfield. Tumor said a rude. I can't wait to travel through. You see anything that a sort of unlocking that kind of, I think basic hypocrisy in caliph.
yeah a little bit of how long do we have man? I I I wrote a piece. I wrote a piece a couple of months back called California is making liberals squirm
one good thing about living here- is it it forces you to focus on problems of progressive governance where, if you just watch the the national seeing your focus really on just promise of republican governance, because this
much worse at the national level, but what
The things I argued in the peace is there, a problem in blue state and specifically in california, is what I called symbolic
liberalism and operational conservatism, and what you're getting at here with refugees is perfect. You walk round san francisco where I live and
Every house has that sign. You know in this house. We believe science is real and everybody is welcome and feminism is for everybody and bubbled up and every
he is not welcome if they can't afford homes and
in san francisco, where the median home prices about one point, four million dollars. Now they can't,
why San francisco, whatever its politics, is actually not a what
in places actually not on. I believe it was a state department. I could be out in the list of the top hundred boats welcoming
is it for refugees. They can't live here
now that has a lot to do with these dynamics. I talked about early. It's not that symbolic liberalism, operational conservatism is always and everywhere and ideological phenomenon. Often it's because you fucked up govern
so bad that
you can have whatever the liberal views you want. You can get anything done. I mean there's a lot of symbolic liberalism and operational conservatism nationally because of the filibuster Democrats might want
ass a voting rights bill, but unless you get rid of the filibuster, they cannot so the way
thing, I will say, is a compared to eight months ago, when I wrote that peace there is some real
some real movement, and this is summer where the mass media fails. I read a piece right before the recall. I talked to govern newsome for it, but before I touch
so? I began Billy just running through the Democrats record in california and actually in the past.
year- and it's really been in the past year because of the surplus- and I think newsome at a pretty slow start and was mishandling legislature and a lot was going wrong. You know even eight months ago, but man there's
in governance. So, as of this week, newsom has signed, I believe it's sb, eight, nine and ten are the ones, but in particular sb nine does something I never thought I would see, which is an end single family. Zoning in California ends it
There is no more single families owning a california. You can cut everything into duplex and cut any lot into two as he can base
for homes. On any lot. That's a big deal, the other ones have smaller bit, but still significant effects. They just put twelve
donors conference is a giant fucking surplus right now, just giant they put.
Twelve billion dollars into housing for the homeless over the next two years. They just passed a thing:
make transitional kindergarten, which is simply a new grade for four year olds, universal by twenty twenty five
there is actually a lot happening all of a sudden, but
My worry about all this is implementation newsome,
The Democrats have passed a tremendous amount of policy
just in the past year that if it
comes to pass. It'll make
a fournier, really, the kind of thing democrats national are hoping to achieve that. May California much closer this but
always promised to be, which is a beacon for progressive governance, is really important. Health care policy and
package. There is really important housing policy. There is really important climate,
The huge investments in electric car charging stations and batteries and climate resilience, but
gotta be able to build it and
speed. Rail is a great example of you can pass it, but you can build it because of the.
we do lawsuits in the state because of the way we ve broken
decisions over local zoning and what can go? Where is
a divided soul and liberals and good book actually just came out called public citizens, which is all about this arising the seventies. But it's like
I used to be this new deal coalition, which have real problems. It was his coalition of labor business in the government, but the is just a
gonna, do stuff and then
arises deserves public citizen movement, Ralph, NATO, rachel, Carson, silent
bring- and it saying you know, a big part of the problem is government is doing too much. It's cutting up neighborhoods its do things are
Mexican the waters- and it begins to-
create waste the czech government and its not that they were wrong and everything. But at this point the pen,
miss swung back too far and governor
overly checks or even when it wants to do good things when it wants to build a high speed train when it wants to do
a more urban housing, etc. It's too easy to stop it from acting and much. That is because
of a dynamic and progressive ism that we don't talk about them much, but their fears government itself.
And has created structural ways to stop it from acting. So, if that,
in a change that refugee thing you're talking about, and they are trying to change that they really have passed a lot but
gotta somehow begin to overwhelm all these pieces of it and you ve got a change away powers actually handled in blue states.
is actually symbolic and good that these housing reforms or some other is, I believe, the first thing governor isthmus signed since repair.
The recall, but I do think that you start to see in a kind of the local news coverage of what it means
of single family zoning, there's already that kind of fearmongering that changing the carriage
the neighbourhood needs gonna, be interesting to see how that actually looks in practice. What the kind of limits,
at the local level, or even just where the practical realities of getting
because, I believe in this law right, you have to have owned it for three years
as before, you're allowed to subdivided into duplexing. There are these kinds of
I dunno rearguard action against some of these changes in these laws already
totally. I don't think by any means. Espionage is going to change everything I laughed a bit while you're talking, I live in a duplex, come on people, it's going to change
they ve neighborhoods fuck off
plexus? What's a people of people live in the other part of its fine? But but the point you're making one thing I
I do think- has made me a little bit more optimistic about housing policy in california. Justice here is that look. You usurping government
what you sometimes need to get a change,
and slowly, but it is a long period of convincing
everybody in the game. The change is coming and they have to get on board some way or another, and you don't get the
big bang change. You want all at once, but over time
are able to convince everyone of it. Then
begin getting on board and and something I'm seeing in california, specifically but but I'll say about our is because
by. So many people live here because media actually is interested in here because you he crooked is out here, and you know you back there
his attention to the problems here and jerry brown
not too much on housing. I think it's a real failure of his, I want to say, but news
whose moved more slowly in many ways, and I like espionage, should it passed a year ago not this year for the past a year ago, and it failed right at the end, because shenanigans
speaker of the assembly, but you know he said
huntington beach and then put, I think
was if I'm not miss remembering the number. Forty six, forty seven other counties under threat of being
because they weren't, he said they weren't aligning with state
housing law. He is etiquette
entire twenty twenty stated state to housing and and interrelated issues, and I began
to see that move after years and years where there is pressure, but no movement. I think everybody
gets now that if you want state money, if you dont want to be seen as a billion and progressive politics that you're gonna have
got some way to really seem like you want to build like you want to create some alternative to the housing encampments and that matters it just
lining the forces takes time. This was my big fear about the recall. Yet there are people who are
in whatever, like republicans win the recall, it's a wake up, call the Democrats. They can't get anything done because you know they'll be checked by the legislature. I didn't grow up for a bunch of reasons, but
one big reason I don't agree with that- is things are finally
starting to move here on some of the really heart issues and it's taken time to align the interest groups, the politics, the players, the the commentary, the pressure and to interrupt the
force when it is finally governing would have been so
a shame. I dont know
it will succeed, I've been paying
tension, housing, politics Calphurnia, for you know
Now this is a
under any chance of succeeding and the s benign and group that just past. That is the first big group that past and
There will have to be more, but people get
like the machinery is finally going and I mean
exciting. I gotta like that. That's exciting stuff, you know see if it works, but I think people
stand that you can't just be recalcitrant on it anymore. I mean it's a hopeful known as recline. Thank you so much,
so good to see you as a pleasure. You know hopefully I'll see on that. Look at you, you'll go to merseyside I'll go to bakersfield, I'm like we'll meet in the middle will meet in the middle vote of all be gone so fast, so bad, so the way of each other the path exactly. Thank you
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at the freedom and bodily autonomy of human beings and the refusal to take steps to stem the tide of the pandemic.
alone? Sir states brand, maybe getting bigger, but it's not better. That can't stop the anthem.
The ethnic head of the texas doors and board ash wrangler audrey ash
so sorry to see that tropical storm nickel issues left hundreds of thousands of people without power and your state? What are elected officials doing to help
thanks for having me John well, our dear senator ted crews released a heartfelt statement expressing his sympathies and it was unaware
a stationary that said on darts at the top, which is the cuban word for hope? Think that
First, what I dont cuban is not a language. I think he just might be it a resort. My private disagree, I mean that's one where a person ups in antonios be would have full river walk, so job
Have you been aside com,
during the city walkin want wow, really sounds pretty good. I haven't
sound find it does seem, though they governor, abbot and see. Legislators are passing a lot of laws that are terrible for actual texans, like this new gun law, which even law enforcement opposes de texans. Really
One gun orders were able to open, carry without a license or any training. It's like this
they john everything's, bigger text is including all fear of being accidentally shot by a stranger
This part of the experiencing, just like your experience, visitin, would have like own taxes to see children. Joanna gains is magnolia market nice people cool charge.
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Gorgeous. Isn't I don't love it? Alright, your states new restrictive voting on how can texans be part of a free and healthy democracy,
if abbot is intentionally making voting more difficult now, Joe,
who can worry about whether or not there are allowed to vote for the future their state when they are soaring through
They would have a blue sky. Applying those annual loot festival, races, garbage dump. You have
not here below, like twelve times
I feel you're not listening to me ass. I know
your job to be a booster. But what about the new restrictive, texas, abortion ban, which the department of justice is already suing over? But if you think about it, John, you used that not gonna use that's great for tourism to
always understood slot louisiana or new mexico. What women can still obtain reproductive health care
plus, I bet they have their own hot air, balloon festivals and city walks. How cool is that I feel like you're, ignoring my questions to promote local festivals, you're, not a gig of local.
festivals is. Are you interested in a trip to the planet of mars, absolutely
what a transition. No, I frankly because it takes you, stood right, no ice
you did there. I see fear, look you're, never gonna
I don't have to go to space, I'm not going to go to space. You and I are going to die right here. You bet and our bones will return to the
however, the only dang planet will ever know
IRAN must, by an he lives right down the street from me sure space.
by all the land around? My house to start practising landed booster rockets, but it is a small price to pay for economic growth is because
another thing that bigger in texas tax breaks for copper.
patients about wealthiest humans in the wider world history of society- it
I'll be honest. You seem like a very positive person by nature. At the leg bleak
it's it's a little,
to me. Imagine you promoting texas tourism from inside your house, while booster rockets are key
landing on the land. All around your home is better than the fourth of who the fuck am. I
sorry, but this is important like here. You have this wonder ever vestment. If I can, if I can say that I hope you don't take this person like a ginger ale, younger you depressing the academy,
Saying all these positive things but itself,
like the average texan is living in a kind of hell, scape right now to have the republican establishment strip away their rights, make their state more dangerous, while providing incredible ben
fits and tax breaks to the richest human beings on earth.
I've done it now
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I mean the san antonio love only exists because the city has a lot for him and able to change the weather to the civilian bear. Is that true? Yes, have you heard a dang thing? I've said I'm very knowledgeable about texas. You are a city. You are using to tell you about corpus, christi, okay, I'm sorry, you're right, you are you're. I don't mean to your very, very knowledgeable. I see that I see it
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ask you this, have you
had real barbecue yeah. I've had barbecue, we have barbecuing, California, we got barbecue all across his country. You know that right now shut up. Let me think
we've got stuff that isn't bad right
the alamo as well as wrangler audrey everybody, the from the texas tourism board. Just if anyone sees ted cruz down into loom. Could you please tell them to call me back cause? I got about thirty to fifty wild feral hog trapping me in my home and you stay out of my recycling. Bins, grimes unnamed! Six of them grind ash. Thank you
when we come back something else and also just add the shout out to Michael hard new. Did it incredible job that was so funny? Thank you. So maybe you see him you see, Michael. Hardly you tell em now you out of it out you at him now when we come back here,
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Actually, this is only the first time a mention on this package in part, because I am, I am worried about spoilers and
Actually I'm worried about even saying I'm worried about spoilers because of the forty and death drive that is so infused in our culture. I find that when you tell people don't spoil something
Even forget twitter in real life. There is this kind of need to destroy this.
Urge to ruin, thou had fully
common, so they'll say it's not a spoiler, but she'll really hate the ending in a world that is a spoiler while that
The spoiler this is among your most nihilistic takes. I feel like I'm reading Grendel again.
but I'm on sees in six right now. Oh wonder:
season, one of the best look, here's the thing I just finished season five and on all our says at the peak of that season, I would have killed for james monsoon to protect her from those other queens yeah.
oh my god, the viciousness viciousness that particular
I was working for logo and I would interview the eliminated
in every week. Why
I didn't I just wanted to scold people- I just wanted to be like how could you create such environs
and yet I love so many people on that, and so many of them had since gone on to be legends and stuff, so water off a duck's back.
Here's another bit of trivia. Did you know recalls that into?
fifteen and a Buzzfeed interview that he saw a man drown. Three real okay
anyway joining me now,
is an absolute paragon television knowledge Jim.
Kamal writer and keep its own louis vertical. Louis things are being here. I don't know I'm supposed to function after that ted bit. You just dropped like the world's most evil. Snapple cap put it on my
done so louis is going to face down a gauntlet of new and vintage amy's trivia. Now he has already done a little burnt, biscuits and basely said he considers himself. An oscar savant
and just a word. How do you feel about emmy trivia? I feel pretty good about it specifically van
its mps, trivia, but there's no other way to put it there. So much tv right now that I dont one care
are too like, haven't really gonna run, I'm looking at best series, nominee, cobra, Kai, sorry girl did not get a chance here. Is of course
What is the kaminski method as it is, if anything to do with edging you're not allowed to ask, and also I mean also
That shows now been around long enough that we
all the same jokes about Michael Douglas.
Him being all them with the commenced, came at the command and have something to do with catherine zeta Jones. So it's literally, like all those jokes have been made actually and I refuse to watch so that I can't help. I will tell you humming I'll confess something to you now, which is that netflix has this habit of just
putting something on the home screen enough until you click on a basically they put them in a home run into you. Click play
they showed me Michael douglas. They showed me
alan arc, they showed me
together, and I thought all right I'll could plan this, and it's kind of glass
it's a aided, isn't shot like us. They come and then
have we do. The first episode does like his jokes, feel like I watch and
the non CBS what's going on here and then I look it up. It's like I gotta got me again. Chuck lorry yes jugglery gabby again anyway, though MA
was a pretty good sheriff. You ever watched mom, though
but the yale of sitcom actors on it else, enchanting and that's what you get moving on this year
louis thank you for being here yeah. I guess I will it will tighten this africa. Hey we'll take them
Probably so
I'm an ass! You questions about amulets! Here you do! This year, ted lasso received twenty nominations the most ever for a new comedy beating out what show that received nineteen nominations in its freshman year and its freshman year off him.
It permits in two thousand nine o with that.
Is that, although its between two, I like this part,
glee or modern family and I'm gonna go with based on now.
Or of nominations could have gotten glee got it. I asked opposed the part. He can literally see the electricity moving through various neural networks and unlocked.
certain new pathways to get to the answer,
Naturally, you say the word two thousand nine. I remember the excitement of wild jane lynch is wearing it.
I remember yes, I love you, isn't it up in the air. I feel as though this
promotional opportunity was created by some kind of a north trickster god, because they
mere. If I remember glee, the show
Glee about a bunch of
singing kids at what
think was an all gay high school. I know. There's not re was
after the superbowl. If I remember, I believe, glee premier after this your boys, one episode- and I saw it I was like,
Is this a show is a one time thing: are they making more of these? Are they going to sing every week the
answer was yes right and I was then I say the tonneau every. It was a very high concept about a group of fourteen year old. You were excited about journey, which was my blog at the time.
Only one network were streaming platform, is now needed for outstanding period. Customs is year. What was it a name as many of the five nominated shows, as you can
so where's all the period stuff happening right now. I m gonna go with netflix and it's gotta be the crown yet back in time. Jesus Christ and costume design, her I'm thinking, gimme a second
I'm toiling cabinet doors open. What is old is key
planchet and anything now
president moving down little a little too
is now activities moving into a new ruminants. I what's in here. What can a cousin,
I look around in here. I have no idea. Sorry, I hope you get a couple more because such good does such good filler
bridger tin of holstein, the queens?
ambit a ratchet? Yes, you gotta rush it and who is the only first lady to receive an emmy and which first lady was nominated for an emmy but did not win. I believe one
An army is Jackie Kennedy, giving a tour of her garden or something
no, the white house that they have a white house towards and which, firstly,
he was nominated for an emmy.
I assume it was not miladi a triumph for her posting mad tv, I'm a guy with it's gotta. Be michelle obama, it was four billion street. She was nominated for that now for Jack Kennedy. It was a
I shall academy intelligent arts and sciences trustees emmy, but I soon because you gave that tour right. I get here's an impression of that tour.
And are now get it as anymore? I'm done a long time, it is what we have here is in the chair and lovely chain. Jacked up to sit in it and read in children. Sit around the chain over here is a piano. Can we have a piano he's in love,
plan. Is that its last I've lost a completely it's also ten percent Michael jackson, yeah I enjoy it.
Who is the only performer to date,
Who has been nominated for playing the same role and three different tv shows? I believe that is kelsey grammer yeah, one of the shows they are at fraser, yeah cheers yeah. This is the
This is the way out right now, it's much more recent to hence take frazier make
o little more accessible and we're not doing psychiatry were fixing
means a wings that right wing, wonderful, crystal bernard. We love to spend time in this room. This is where
certainly read books in the children like to plan
truly when you say the word children, it's so Michael Jackson. Truly I act.
one more thing about Michael Jackson, which, as I am ups
Currently, with his interview, he once gave about tommy mittal and how is mad atomic mottola and he starts a sentence and clearly did not
a plan about how to finish it, and he goes and he's
very, very, very, very devilish
and the way he says devilish should be brought back as a wonderful word. Go ahead. Many have noted that you can kind of see Michael Jackson's change through the album art. Yes, but I don't think enough attention
has been brought to the ways in which you can see the unraveling in the names of the album off the wall? Thriller, bad dangerous, then
history, past present and future book one and it's like we are
no longer touching the ground, gravity,
is no longer applying. Babies are
for railings things are out of control, and then you follow that up with invincible. Yeah like he says, it's me. Jesus Christ, yes, who let's go back to the
but we were nailing. I'm in
did you a name and you're gonna tell us which two projects this person has been nominated for this year. Ok
linking brown. Oh well, he's on that. One show this is us in the tender heart,
god, and when I say we are this, one
unfair. You will I dont. There's no way did he then host the amazing race, but ousted strolling came round it. He the army's or something I don't know he did. Narrate CNN, lincoln, divided
stand, which I
keep my eyes off of. As you know, what I want to learn about lincoln, I need to watch television series jean smart, jean smart, for
hacks and murphy's town kenan thompson.
the television series and saturday night life, maybe brian shrill
and saturday. Now I fired up. Oh, who already won a couple of them is, if I'm not mistaken, so she went for saturday. Night live a big mouth guess denominated again this year, rationale and she is nominated for big enough. Why
person is nominally this year for writing. Directing picture editing and music and lyrics hill Nicky,
I'm kidding. Let me think
lin manuel for that damn hamilton shut
is not damp. What I don't know if this makes sense, close who's, the other when Manuel tom,
oh Allison Janni, I'm kidding, I feel like you'll, get it tall a tall
or of music and direction. Oh, I know it
Burnham yeah. What does movie he just is a pretty young thing. Settlement without it
promise a pretty.
thing is a is a michael jackson saw. You have been brainwashed, this lovely room where we have
none of us in our family dinners we like to sit around the table and children
this is also
eating romans thing of hating, the movie, Jackie, so you're, just let you around and hating jackie complex, I believe,
this allowed around the time of that premier don t
was nominated first turn in disney pluses falcon and
your soldier, how many seconds
mueller ably did dont.
no appear on screen during that show. That is an amazing question because, as we all know clarify just one,
for the crown for performance that was milliseconds or something like that
This is how many seconds total, I meant to say, ninety one. While it is ninety five,
second, that is already impressive and you are
Of course, remember. The famous ellen burst an emanation where she's in a scene, for literally forty seconds in a tv movie called
is harris from the two thousands and then there was later retracted, because people, just I signed
because ass uncomfortable not to honour Ellen burstin, so getting didn't judy.
Bench win for shakespeare in love, shakespeare, love and she was onscreen. I believe for eight minutes, correct and but she's, not the shortest wind. The shortest is beatrice straight for network who's. On for about five minutes, I realize I forgot. I forgot that she won for that.
even though it so. She calls herself the dark horse during the speech to go in
in forty nine, very first emmy per.
It was for most outstanding television personality who one that Emmy, who lots of good options. Nineteen, forty nine, because that does seem to predate isle of Lucy. So it feels like
it's gonna be some one like. Oh, I
let it be wrong milton barrel. No, no, no you're, you're knocking on the door of the type of stuff is going. Oh, such user get
of some a warmer but
idle vandyke, that's way before someone who's wacky. Yes, yes, cherry louis
no, but warmer, somehow,
getting warmer I'll, give you another hint in a sense, it was for a person and a character cut fuckin how holbrooke
mark twain. That's not. It is ventriloquist shirley, dimmesdale and her past few days. Winters I really would like who am I not thinking of ok? Well, you're, a madman. What year did the first
african american performer win and emmy and who was it win and amy? I can say this is different than women, because the first woman to when I believe, as gale man x, the first african american to win. I know pill cause, be won. The first four drama for I spy, but I bet he wasn't the first winner all,
gather. Can I get the category two categories? It was for outstanding individual performance in a variety or music programme geez.
elephantine career.
Yes, maybe sixty. He got it in ninety
Sixty one and animated show one best comedy series for the first time. What was it in nineteen
Sixty one, an animated show one ass Kennedy. I guess the flintstones
rats who received the first posthumous emmy for acting posthumous at me for the first one
I'm gonna go with o. Is it the woman on beware?
who played gladys cravats, not gladys, you're, so close
it's like bewitching to about right. You got it. I was not demanding more than this. It was marion lorne for workers and clara on bewitch, oh and clara, on bewitched, yes, but then somebody,
played the nosey neighbour also died and there's another pass him this nomination, their didn't dick sergeant, replace dick york predict york, replace dick sergeant dick sergeant replaced
york. Yes, and he and dick sergeant was super gay. Yes, he and,
but Montgomery, where the marshal of the a pride parade in the nineties once cool and finally, bob fancy, never ego
but in a two month span in nineteen. Seventy three got close when
who tony awards an oscar and three m is and remains the
he perceived wherever one ever won all three in the same year, what projects did he went for a while? I'm in so that's the
cabaret, that's what he directed went best director for the oscars at the
ponies around that time got em and he once so many of them, I'm gonna! Guess he one at that time, for is a cab
again, no god tommy, pippin pippin, that's the one. I forgot just three enemies,
was for choreography and directing on what who
some variety show. I must be some variety
carol, burnett thing I have no lows lies with easy. We all, of course, lies at what disease around that type. God I'm really blowing in today's our doing so here you may get sick.
And finally, finally, how many of this
sixteen legitimate. He got winners. Can you name, we say legitimate because we're not counting honorary award. These are competitive awards, name as many as you can all
my best. Well, you got your webpage albert, Rita, Murano. You ve got your mel, brooks you ve got your robert lopez, the frozen
I strove, etc. You ve got Richard
I feel like I'm forgetting someone
audrey hepburn mile,
but not under led weber- gather some other composer, some other get you gotta every underlined, Adelaide weber, that's right and see him rise. If you like
composers is where I'm falling apart. Here. Did I hear TIM rice? Yes,
I just muttered timorous. Yes, him rice, yes,
I will give you a hint on one if you don't get it I'll, throw a phone
you and fire. You russell crow
oh, I will never work in this fucking town. Again all right
I told you I said I wanted vapor wrote christopher Nolan. I
swear to god, they're anchovies on the salad, you piece of shit. Now you go tell
hot twinkle, I'm always nice to to get a better version of this. Oh I'll, give you another hint
a retelling of what it was like to work. There are the only
and acknowledge how hustler place it was was chris rock who, when he saw the looks on the faces of
people who work in the opposite. You can all relax. I know he hits yes, scott road and yeah. I didn't realize he was an eu god. I don't think I didn't either you say, yeah abuse,
full impersonation. Now
you're missing I'll give it here the ones you want to go out and keep going or you feel like you have one hundred and twenty three million four hundred and fifty six thousand seven hundred and eighty nine you're nine of sixteen you're so close,
you are missing, I believe, composers, oh, it is,
Helen haze is one Roy s, minister time academy award winner, John lennon
the correct I didn't say Alan Mencken? Did I that's another, didn't learn from other guidelines. You mess big composure,
we're missing. I see it
These two more music people- and I I totally have want marvin Hamish correct,
who wrote my favorite song of all time. Nobody does a better some by Carlos. I'm a pretty again, you are down to one two. Three laughed: let's see, I'm gonna give you a
and on one of these, his birth name was eager MIKE Nicholls louis. You got fourteen out of this.
Sixteen ye gods geronimo extremist, ok,
Are you ready to give up yeah? I think I'm ready to give up. I know I'm forgetting somebody who matters but go ahead. I'll, give you one more hint shakespearean actor. Could
Mr gay himself John deal good, correct and there's one more are
one more. I don't even know I've literally never I'll, say this I'll confess to you. I don't
with this person is. Is it a composer? Yes, he is a composer I feel like I can get it.
Jonathan tunic, correct, ok, I've seen this list a million times. I should have had that faster. I'm sorry yeah
shame on you louis that was pathetic.
louis that was incredible.
Did not added out any air when we edited this segment down. What your hearing is exactly as we recorded it. We did not remove any qualms
in that louis didn't know, and we, Sir
it did not cut several minutes of me doing a Jackie kennedy impression that did not happen but Lewis. That was incredible sincerely
amazing trivia, savant, it's nice to have one attribute that could be helpful at only this time, and I love you- and I want you to know why you're here this, that I forgive you for doing gain used with roupell. Ok, people kept saying that was the same thing girl. It was not the same thing I was not yet. I don't even think of your ship when I did it apparently not well. Some of us work on television and some down. So our think about now who is very, tell em,
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