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I see your bunker looks lovely. It looks like there's a flat screen tv in your bunker and a printer yeah. You know you gotta, you gotta, be you have to be able to print out bunker instructions. You know very carefully, let's get into it. What a week dozens of secret service agents were ordered into quarantine after trumps, tulsa rally, you know, Larry, you sign up to be a secret service agent to keep the president at a harm's way, but this sort of it illicit bargain that resident isn't going to dart into traffic he's not play russian roulette like dear hunter, you know, they're gonna have to take the name's secret out of the secret service, because all of these people is giving public It's amazing how much trump makes people people around him vulnerable by his stupidity. It is amazing, but anyhow sorry for all those people. It is also no drama in a fight protecting the president from a virus. You know the class,

image in the line of fire is the moment they jump in front of a bullet to protect the president. That's part of our culture, but there's no bullet to jump in front of with a virus the only place they should have jumped. It was a jump in front of the president, while he's trying to board air force on you focus more on, or maybe when hence mazes, will see his head go back into the left just back into the left. There is a second sneezer Larry, its ivy will open their eyes. People are to open their eyes this week. Primary elections were also held in kentucky and new york, with some big opportunities for progressive gains in kentucky, while votes are still being counted. Charles booker took the lead over any mcgrath and in new york to progressive openly gay candidates. Richie tourism mondo jones, on track to win their primary and jamal bowman. Unseated longtime congressmen elliot angle: how did a former middle school principle defeat the income and by refusing to give

the bathroom pass to voters unless they promised to vote for him, I'm so sorry, this is such a shitty election season combined. I mean effect im pulling it out. You know we had progressive winds across the country and then we also had examples of just horrific voter suppression in kentucky and other places, and we saw the threat to the elections. Just you know forget malevolent just basic incompetence of trying to make sure people get their ballots. It's really very I talk about it with our berman, whose election export later in the show, but we really do need to start paying attention right now. I think part of it too is there could be voted depression. You know we're people just fill it. What's the focal point you know and may not even go out to vote for a lot of different reasons, especially giant if you have to wait and alive for three or four hours with coal good around him You know you don't work and all that stuff, it's crazy. I mean before covered. I would not wait

side a restaurant for brunch for ten minutes row and I dont get pancakes when I vote. No, you know, at least when you get Let me give you orange juice, you know now, don't give you anything that you get a sticker, a little smug, who are you to wear, and now we are in a world where the sticker no cover it kills the fun of the sticker. I voted I may have covered you put that sticker. I voted check with checking with me in two weeks, see how I did this week. The dixie chicks changed their name to the checks because they didn't want to be associated with the confederacy. This follows lady antebellum, changing their name to lady a and lindsey, graham changing. name to lady g lair, Here's what I don't understand, what did the dixie, chicks and lady anti bell Think the civil war was about last week. It's the I'm thinking of its this heroin, sheikh type of mentality when choosing means in a wheel,

belgium. That sounds good is it? Is it like? What is that you know what it means and the dixie chicks like dixie. As always, the celebrated Wherein- and I wish I were in dixie already. You know it Many have this movement has cut of forced a lot of people to really consider what the fuck their action saying a wet there actually celebrating but come on dixie takes seriously. You know that was yes. because they they had made such a name for themselves as being willing to you know to stand up to a bush just tell wretch truth, and yet there was this its. It does really speak to even people who consider themselves progressive thought they were thinking about these issues in the right way. Just didn't have to pay attention. Just didn't have to consider the opinions of millions and millions and millions of black people that you didn't have to be a part of the conversation part of their thinking it. Why should they start now and speaking of

starting now splash mountain announced they would be removing all references to the song of the south on that ride. We framing and around the princess and the frog. I do think Larry that disney's begin asked questions to which they will not like the answers. The little man it is the story of a girl who sees a hot boy. One time and figures herself and gives up her voice to seduce and it works and the person who faces consequences is the drag queen. Who was right to hate king too, in underwater dick tutorial regime Larry? Do you know what that's can't it's, not an aquatic regime that is its an autocratic regime. Nice I like, I did. You know, there's a lot of photos buried tales and is also in the south. We already knew that problematic as they pulled the film like years ago. You couldn't you rented out, you could, but they thought sneaked arrived just right by everything. You know. People

fast in their local suit. They won't see like em, maybe you don't own by with rare Evan verified as they were. Opening splash mountain in the late eighties. They were pulling song of the south back and they started deleting reference to some of the south from the ride. But what I find so strange about it is, like they have a lot of intellectual property. Splash mountain is a log that gets wet red could really apply a lot of different ideas. Do it does it need to be about this, like? What is southern plantation life have to do with a lot flew like why. Why did you needed to be that road not like lynch mountain. You know it's like you know. This inch mountain. I don't I dunno it's a fun ride. I dunno why people want us to change it. It's just it's something that happened. We didn't do it. You know, but it's part of our heritage than twenty twenty. After careful reflection,

in consultation with many members of our team. You ve come to discover that for a lot of people, lynch mountain is an offensive term. Apparently it's a bad thing. So it's no anti belgium and I hope you go joy and no man anti them with pre the war. What's wrong and people were not even at the war, yet its pre war. It's not about anything it's about gazebo, most, it's mostly about gazebo and freely white dresses. That's really the focus its the beautiful. How can I say birth of our nation? You know that Disney beauty and the bees is the story of a hot stitch. Who falls in love? with her kid dapper, because a which tried to teach the kidnappers lesson about being kind by torturing that kidnappers sold staff yeah. She makes the prince ugly. But u turn human beings in inanimate objects and their only crime was working there and then leumi air and colleagues worth and the tea kettle and the cup

they all go along with it and then, when there too, back into people. They stay in their jobs. They stay at work and at the heart of it is a heartwarming story about beast. Reality it's like it's like you know. It says in the wizard of oz, dorothy the cowardly lion. It's like. I don't think that's what the story should do count the number of people that have that into their search terms by chilling, so these people who are at work just happened to be a that day. Maybe some of them should have taken a day off their then copy of four years is to punish this guy for being a jerk who kidnaps a woman when they are finally turn back into people through the same ages when they went it because the cup chip is still a little boy which means were in that castle. Frozen in time, did families age. Where did their families they were today? Miss funerals did aim is birthdays. The world went on

without them, while they were trapped all for the crime of working for a shitty boss, I think we're going to need like a making of a murderer type of beauty and the beast deconstruction. Somebody needs to go into that castle with some cameras and figure this shit out. I agree with you there way to me the question I agree just once it would be nice if the happy ending in one of these movies was a restoration of like democratic civic institutions, it is decided to hold elections and step down into the movie. We got healthcare, there's a true and reconciliation commission in pride rock to discover why these species have gone along with this dictatorial regime for so long. Yes, finally, pre existing provisions. Finally, all this week the supreme court made it much easier to deport asylum seekers that access to a lawyer. Finally, this supreme court stands up for the little guy yet because

easier to beat someone down from a standing position yet and it It is worth noting that army g concurred with the opinion she joined the conservative majority, while Elaine hagen and sonya sort of my or descent it yeah. I think our views paying back roberts, for you know him coming over to the other side, little bitches that alright, l? U and hago! You know who knows how much longer I'll be on here anyway? Who cares? It's become this kind of the little bit of cult personality or an rpg, and it's like hey, you know, she's joining on some of these tough opinions can be one point, be honest about the fact that she probably should have retired in two thousand and thirteen instead of king, the entire future of the country as a tiny aging. Often quite sick and with so much on the line of her staying alive too much pressure to stay alive? You never gonna get me to say anything bad about our. We do at home in the guns for dogs and but here's the thing. Here's the thing we have this expectation

that are liberal judges supposed to be liberal. Conservatives supposed to be conservative but honestly, the whole point. The whole lifetime appointment is that they're allowed to cross over to their to say that happens, the republicans all the time they. It seems. happen more, you know, starting with the war in court, in some of these other conservative appointed judges who have been living, decisions. You know it hasn't happened as much on the other side, but when it doesnt work, we don't like. I know that's that spare it's this item of the owners of the system. You know yes, it is true that you ve seen people like Anthony Kennedy become better on gay rights roberts held up obamacare. We just had this decision, in which gore such did originals code on quote reading of title, seven, to make sure that algae, betake you people were

it did under title seven of the civil rights act and we do expect the judges have some sort of intellectual independence, of course, but I think it's more that because the court has become simple and because it is absolutely true that one of the reasons I think you do see, this ideological inconsistency on the right is because the court has did so far to the right that were pleasantly surprised when it takes not a left position, but a kind of moderate position, even though it slanted that way. If we look at the court decisions of the past twenty five, is it more balanced on the right. Well, I think it's me that we ve seen some big decisions that run counter to our expectations, but even the roberts corps, again and again, even if you know we just saw them, deny trumps efforts to do A dark are right and they didn't undermine that decision on logical grounds, are basically said, his decision was incompetent, and that is the big ticket and a decision on dhaka, but course of the last few years, that court has done an incredible number of right wing immigration decisions, but dhaka was also

take actions not allowed at that their ruling on rubber more that it wasn't a it's basically. The trumps incompetence is the reason that we ended up with a progressive outcome. That's all yeah, but I always felt dawkins on weak legs, because it's an executive action. You know, I think one of the lessons of trump is. Conservatives have really embraced. Executive power and liberals have been very critical of that up until it was in the hands of someone they liked like about the importance of course, but we, as I think one of the lessons to me the last four years as being more aggressive at restricting executive power. Even when it someone we trust in control, and we didn't do. I agree, but I mean the big slap interfaces. You know the report about the two hundred judges being confirmed a risk

the kind of celebrating that when he black so many as you know, you were there for sale of obama's equipment, including you know the supreme court when and just blatantly data kind of act in the face of this is these are facts that you know who feel for decades. Now, two hundred others, it's gonna, be it's crazy. It's also why If we don't, we don't win in november. That will be ratified not only across the federal courts, which will make it more difficult to win cases. Obviously, but if we do get a trumpery election and arbitrary goes, it will in that those two under judges will be affirmed by right wing court for the next thirty years. I mean it's too, and it makes addressing climate change if we win in the future impossible.

will make a hope we are facing so many problems that will require a court ought to be willing to take on entrenched power, and if we don't win, it's terrifying. I agree in a six three or seven. Two supreme court is way different than a five four way different. You know yeah, that's like not a good future yeah. You can't just hope to get course ich. If you have to moral leaders in the future that we got away we're gonna win. Also, this we note a rider accuse, miss gibson of making anti semitic and homophobic comments? At a party when reach for comment, miss gibson said who said that may come. I did say that I, wouldn't it I am good and I said it of course I said it. He said that he'd go back and say you know, he didn't admit it, he didn't admit it. He denied it but anything less convincing, then they'll gibson, denying that he got drunk at a party and set some anti semitic and on the other things I mean milk ips and try so hard to be races. It's amazing to me

the people try so hard to be raised is any that's. Why, really going out of your way to get in the races lane. It's not like a slip up or whatever you know exactly what you're talking about a new enough. You said something like that to de oj whistleblower specified for congress about political interference by bill bar with one career prosecutor, Aaron's linsky saying he was pressure to issue a lenient sentencing recommendation for roger stone and another, she'll saying bill bar improperly targeted cannabis suppliers, because he personally doesn't like we'd addio that's hard on drugs, but soft on crime is a real mixed bag for rogers dome. Who very clearly has a lot of affection for both one of roger stones. Unindicted conspirators is methamphetamine larry. That's it that's the joke! It's true, because you know a high, you have to be to get a tattoo richard Nixon in your back, no one! No one can do that sober earlier. This

The trunk campaign announced that over a million people are, as repeat, verse, camping kick off rallying oklahoma. Only sixty two hundred people showed up for the event or point six percent. The original number only point: six percent of people showing up your party. What is this a vodka and Jared like a party next year when they realise what they finally become. I think they just we're just so tired of being inside in Oklahoma. People just showed up to that thing. You know it's also. I think you know we wonder so how many people are actually kind of inside of this media bubble so thoroughly that they be willing to disregard public health experts, pretending born of oranges and threat, or actually believe it's not a threat to just go to this rally, and I think there is good news and the fact that it was much few many fewer people than they expected yeah right, like sixty. Two hundred people, as opposed to the nineteen thousand fifty thousand whenever they thought they could get. No, I think, as a kind of hopeful sign, I'm not happy that their sixty two hundred people that care so much about protecting this sort of races, massage and his administration.

we're willing to do this or to believe the propaganda that they've been fed is not a good thing, but it's better that it wasn't full. I I agree with you on that. I think it's a glass half full more than glass, half empty, now, trump's speech. In tulsa in phoenix have come even as corona viruses been surging across the country, Texas, governor abbot, pause, the reopening and close down bars, Wide enflowered announced that bars would remain open, but they could no longer serve our call. So if you want we completely sober and packed room with loud music in the risk of serious illness visit Florida florida. You never disappoint me. You know people manatees down in florence, always as a way of just somehow find the wrong thing to do all the time. You know guarantee Listen to me right now, Florida, we'll find a way to go. Translate. Aren't you lay down the marker? I hope you're, I hope you're own president they always find a way to disappoint us and finally led

thursday night. The trump administration petition the supreme court to destroy the affordable care act, including the provision that protects people with pre existing conditions like covert proven once and for all that chums own white house really doesn't want him to be president anymore. Yet in let's be clear, this isn't just true. This is the cynicism of the republican party, but they ve been trying to do this systematically for years now, with such cynicism in such a contempt for the american, go as far as I'm concerned on this. This makes me so angry. Just seeing what's writing or face how much people suffer my now- and this is gonna- be your priority to dismantle you know a health care is your now what's wrong with you like. That's a priori, to make it harder for people to to get healthcare. I know it so stir and it also it does speak. I think I do think one of the reasons that you ve seen more of an embrace of men. Care for all. Is you look at what happens when you try to build a

volition around a centre left solution right. That starts with a kind of market based approach. The healthcare system largely remains intact. Some people can get medicaid. There is additional consumer protections inside of the healthcare system, you add some money off or subsidies, so people can buy into that system to reduce the number of uninsured, you kind of basically kind of try to reform and fix the system. Keeping kind of the capitalist aspects of it in place. Originally, a part of the idea emerging from a heritage foundation and deal. They attack it as socialism in an honor. Lending way for a kate or more as unconstitutional. It's a truly monster, regime is a regime and it is monstrous. their line that I will stand up for the centre left in this because it's not like medicare for all hasn't been tried over the years. There have been many instances where that's been tried, but it's been pushed back. It was tried in the seventies. It was tried in the sixties. Did you remember? Hillary Clinton was was trying to do that, at the beginning, the Clinton administration, you know a version of that at least.

Bomb of finally got something that was list to the needs of the american people, because, even though, something to try and nothing was done, and people think it's gonna be eased You get back her for all pass and they're saying how hard it was. The centre left as it compares good put the battle point on the complete. Let go mug? Oh! No! I don't! I'm not disagree on. Not arguing that there was any like I was in the white house, I was in the I was a speech writer for present obama during that entire fight. I remember how hard it was because we had a demo accelerated democratic house, but these are not all people that walked into government on the day Barack Obama. He became president a lot of these senators and house members were model It's been there for a very long time and who themselves needed to be convinced. We had to get it through with sixty votes in the senate and a lot of people say. Oh, you know Joe Liebermann killed the public option, jolly remit in color publication, a bunch of democratic senators,

killed the public option, aright, which would have just been a way of accessing the public system today that seen as the moderate position and fair enough, the politics of change, but at the time it was seen as really hard to get that final peace over the hump. When people say, oh, that you should have gone further left, it should have gone harder in the final part of that creation right to get something through a democratic congress. Every single bit of negotiation was around. How left can you get this thing while still getting it's votes, including Joe Lieberman, killing the medicare buy in, but even that which would have helped so many people finally had to come out of the bill, so we kind of had out like a political science experiment of how left you could be and get through the senate without losing enough of the progressive and that's what we did. It was hard politics. No and in all fairness, you know there are two things since we're getting into the nitty gritty of it yeah one

I taken an unpopular position, which I don't mind. I do not think president Barack Obama came out for the public option in a way where he could win over the american people. To me he was too neutral in that you know he kind of gave it to congress to figure out that bill. He wasn't leading on it. You know which I thought was a wrong way to go. That was the way he wanted to play it, and then I and I understand Probably the reason why image of my second point remember: this was trying to be done as the economy was crater him We very concerned about you, know financial issues and all that so you know p, I'm talking about any in necessarily an ideological person. You know people worried about jobs, then and all kinds of things- and this is something they felt. They need he to do right away while they have political leverage.

I'm not sure if they had the american people ever to that point and to me the tipping point would have been obama coming out publicly for the public option. You know he even private public option, but I don't think he publicly for the public at large and he was papa, I will say either you can talk about emphasis, but you look back in that fight and it's difficult to appreciate now, but their huge medicate expansion of big political fight, yeah huge costs we're protections: aright right, pre, existing conditions, a host of other protections, basically, a patient's bill of rights, right that was the before hugh refuge, passing huge huge bill and evidence of itself right to have a big medicate expansion? You have a big set of consumer protection in the third massive subsidies for the private systems, so that, if you want to buy into these marketplaces and your bullet, your income is below a certain you get money to help, make insurance more vital again, another huge thing and, as part of their conversation present obama

talked about it, often a lot of people talked better option. There should also be, as part of that market place, a public options, a you can buy into a medicare like option for, and I think in the selling of obamacare. Generally, the radicalism of a public option was never part of the message and the size of the imf ones of it. How big a deal it would mean to a lot of places, especially with just one insurance option. It would be to have a public option. I just don't think that was ever central to the case or the public option to this day it's seen as smaller than what the actual impact would be. It was true, then, that's true now, so I think in that sense it's true yeah, I I agree with everything he just said: it's a kind of way like public option. You know when it was talked about this. I mean you're right, you know he may have talked about it, but it went by like that. It wasn't the headline. You know yeah, and you know you have to campaign for for the big headline and convince the american people that that headline is important to get on board with you know, yeah. I dunno there's no observation

but I'm sure he was very concerned about what is happening in the academy. You know I m protecting people's jobs and I have tried to get that started in that makes complete sense to me. Do you still getting its own because of of policy and doing it to reconciliation and all the right. If it's an incorrect, the the achievement of a balmy care, pretty amazing there have is an amazing achievement, and I do think that that, given that there were so much reticence on the part of some santa Democrats around the public option, you understand why you start focusing on these three big pillars that you can get down and eager saying. Well, we can either fight for a bigger subsidy for private insurance or give Aren't you a public option or what have you you start to see why certain things fell out just to get something done given a heart of politics? Is the art of the possible number art of what I want ya thousand. I weren't we didn't have what we did. Look at, that we have some substance. Substance saw from home. Exciting people love the substance. Would you jokes? We do substance,

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Yes, we have always been fighting, always been fun. We've always been making it cute as our fucking job cuts and everybody. Thanks to god, travail when we come back we're natasha, berman, mother jones, reporter about voter suppression efforts in what we can do tat don't go anywhere, love it or leave. It is more on the way. Our back writer and author of give us the ballot, the modern struggle for voting rights in america, pre eminent v. Or suppression expert, but the good kite about how to fight it. Not to do it. Our berman could touch him talk to you yeah. I don't want to be thought of as the preeminent vote suppressor. So thank you for making that clear. Otherwise, then, die and then your relatives will come through your belongings, finding the evidence of your malfeasance, which is what happened with the last grates vote. Suppression, enthusiast expert, so first

and we have these primaries unfold across the country. We had a number of really positive results in terms of progressives. winning but at the same time there were problems and questions around voter access, especially in places like Kentucky. You talk a little bit about what you learned watching these primaries old yeah. So what when I saw that was good, was that turnouts been up a lot of states in spite of all the barriers to voting? What's been bad? Is that vote has become harder because of corona virus, Our states where there is already a lot of slaughter suppression places like georgia in wisconsin and they were a mass but there has also been places that I didn't think we're. Gonna have problems and there were Long lines there to places like washington, DC and nevada way had like seven hour, lies and self what's happening throughout the primaries is that a bunch of states have had her really abruptly expand male voting.

so like in wisconsin. They went from six percent of people voting by mail and twenty eighteen to sixty percent in the primaries. Nobody thought that was going to happen before corona virus and then states have had to close a ton of point places because they can't recruit poor workers or they can't find pulling sites and that's lent a really long lines at the polls. So that combination of really quickly switching to vote by mail and also not having locations and then already having all of these Cioffi voter suppression, laws and states like georgia and wisconsin has made the primaries. I'm really combustible when it comes to voting. So I believe I find this challenging just as an observer trying to learn what's going on, which is, as you pointed out, we this long running effort at voter suppression, the republican governor and and and and legislators have enacted across the country. At the same time, we have this unprecedented pandemic. That is, testing voting systems. That already

sort of non partisan vector, have been neglected and a whole host of ways and had a whole bunch of promise. To begin with, how do you sort out the incomparable from the malevolence the unique circumstances of the pandemic and the active effort to suppress the votes of democratic voters. black voters, young voters, how do how do we figure out where to put our energy and think about that distinction? So the big problem is that the pandemic makes the malevolent efforts a lot easier to pull off like take voter id laws for exit but if you don't have the idea, you need to vote it's hard to get it now, because people don't want to go to the dvd or think about voter perching, if you move from the voter roles. It's a lot harder to register if you're in a state like tests that doesn't have online registration think of all the new people that we're gonna register to vote for the first time who might not register because for registration drives, essentially shut down and all of these places or think about the fact that

states like georgia and taxes had already closed hundreds appalling places, even before corona virus help, So the way I'm looking at it is that kind of ours has added a whole new layer of voter suppression, but it's also made people like me have to expand our land. Skip, because normally an election like this, I be focused on like five or six states right that are like the keyboard or suppression hot spots, florida, georgia, north carolina, was constant, those kind of places but I kind of have to pay attention to elections everywhere, because a state that might not the history of utter suppression might not be prepared to vote by mail in large numbers might have had a close lot of pulling places not because of malevolence, but because of just the circumstances of a pandemic, so it is high. Two separate that, but there are still lots of states words clear that republicans are committed to making voting more difficult places like george and taxes and current of our suggest added to that, and you can tell because

There's always litigation right now over whether to make voting easier in the truck campaign and the republican party are involved in nearly every battleground state on the side of making voting harder sets a very easy way to tell whether its malevolent or not. I also by the voting rights act, so chief justice, John roberts, writes his opinion, which He says we no longer need to require certain states that were required under the voting rights act because of a history of systemic abuse to be checked by the federal government in terms of putting in changes to the way elections run. how much of what we are seeing is directly tied to that in those states in places like north carolina in georgia, south carolina and so the south, and how much of it is just a larger trend unfolding its both. So there were efforts to make voting more difficult before the supreme court, gotta them rights writes out, but it's a lot easier to pull it off in those.

I previously had to approve their voting changes with the federal government. So, for example, georgia closed two hundred and fourteen polling places from two thousand and twelve to two thousand and sixteen they would have had to approve that with the federal government. Otherwise, now, obviously, the trump administration wasn't going to block georgia from closing polling places, but the point is: is that states have put in a lot new restrictions that they otherwise wouldn't have the southern states and some of the western states with a long history of discrimination. They have closed over sixteen hundred pulling places. I, since the supreme court guided the voting rights act, states that purge the vote, rules are states that previously had to improve their voting changes under the voting rights out there. Urging voters at a rate of forty percent or more committed rest in the country. So it's not like states that weren't subject add to this part of the voting rights act. Didn't have any there were suppression, was confident, ohio and other places, but its verily true that

access, georgia, north carolina. They have taken advantage of the cutting of the voting rights act to make voting a lot harder in those states. So you know we we previous, talks about a lot of these issues on positive america and we talked about sort of whether or not we sort of cross the precipice beyond which its difficult we're having free and fair elections, and I think it can be really dispiriting for people because they see this unfolding and the tools at their disposal, one of the great ones, is voting that the way we protect our democracy is through democracy, but what you see as like the key thing that people who care about this issue can do right now to make sure that were doing as much as we can to protect the vote in november, usually in most states there is a way to be active to vote and enter. Make yourself hurts, I think enough. People turning out can overcome some of the pressure, and I think that is really the fundamental dynamic of the election is those who want to participation versus on present,

movement now to try to expand political participation and to me that's kind of the defining storyline of the election, so working people do. If you live in a state that has male voting, I would request your ballot early and make sure you have enough time to get it so that your vote is counted because a lot of states have restrictive laws in terms of how to get about it and how to send it back. If you want to vote in person, I would urge people to vote early to avoid long. the took pause. I would urge you to contact their secretaries of state and believe it or not. There have been a number of secretaries of state that a republicans that have tried to do the right thing either. I was secretary of state, for example, set osity about requests forms to all registered voters. The secular state of washington state, which is a total vote by male state, has been outspoken about supporting vote by mail. So I dont think, like the republican party is necessarily marching in lockstep with president try,

when it comes to vote by mail. I would urge people to be poll workers if they can. One of the reason that states are closing polling locations is because they can't recruit enough poll workers, because poll workers tend to be over sixty five and at risk. So if you're, young and willing and able, I would urge people to be Paul workers. The good news in the primary says that turnout has been up in a lot of states, so even within president public health crisis, even with the voting system being really messy, I'm even with president tromp waging this unprecedented disinformation campaign. People are still turning out in voting and I'm fully expecting that that transferring to continue in november, but I think you have to start thinking about what you can do now to overcome the barriers when there's still time change the system. You know, inter the republicans you saying that there is there not enlarge set with trump. You know we have seen this divide. There have been state official that I tried to do the right thing than you, gotta someplace, like texas, and you saw this-

have sinister effort to undo the work of a few localities. That basically said our reading of the rules makes clear that the fear of the crown of our should qualify people for and absently ballot according to texas law. Turning this big fight. Now it's been said by a lot of peace. Well, there's really not a lot of evidence to say, vote by mail helps Democrats or it helps republicans. It's just not clear that that happens. So what drives a you know, republican official to so ferociously to try to fight a local effort like that to make for people in some of these cities, where their elected officials want people to have the vote. I absentee to try to stop at what. What do you think drives that effort? Well, I in taxes. The way the law is written, it explicitly house republicans because taxes are people that are over sixty five, who tend to be much more republican and wider than the population as a whole.

Well, they can vote by mail for any reason. But if you're under sixty five, it's very very difficult to get an absentee ballot, you either have to be out of your county impressed or you have to have a physical illness or disability a most I have that krona virus is a physical illness or disability, but taxes has said that fear of contracting crone of our is a core emotional conditions. Not a physical wine, So, basically, it's a unbelievable situation in texas, where, if you're over sixty five, you can vote by mail for any reason, if you're under sixty five, you basically can't vote by mail, I mean you couldn't come with the system more perfectly calibrated to try to help the republican party and rigged the electoral system. Then something like that, and that's what really concerns me about november. In states that have expanded vote by mail. I think people going to use in huge numbers, but in the hands of states work hasn't been expanded words really restrictive on paper. Have no choice but to go to the polls, and current

these cases are searching in texas right now, so you're saying to voters were overwhelmingly democratic and houston in Dallas and san Antonio and austin. You have but your life on the line to go vote in paris and I'm really worry that taxes in november of things don't get better. It's gonna be a lot like what we saw was confident April, which these her really the lines in democratic leaning city and no lines in reply can areas, because everyone's either all voted by mail or corona viruses in his bad in those places. So I think We've made a lot of progress in terms of expanding voting access in the primaries, but there are a handful of states, texas, chief among them that has made voting a lot more difficult with the express purpose of trying to disenfranchise democrats and communities of color. One last question. So obviously, this is all taking place in the context of a presidential election. Do you believe the Democrats?

Our right now saying what they should be saying is abiding campaign saying what it should be saying to make sure that, if democrats are able to win that they can do the work next year, too, can have reassert democracy to protect democracy in a proactive way rather in a defensive way. We've had to be in the run up to this election. I think the democratic party is getting better about it. I don't think the democratic party is as aggressive about expanding voting rights. As the republican party is at suppressing voting rights. I think there's still a ways to go, but I think if you look at all the bills that have passed the house, whether it's hr, one, which is the most significant democracy reform bill in a generation that would make it a lot easier to vote, whether you look at a legislation to restore the voting rights act, whether you look at all the bills, they pass to prevent foreign election interference, whether you at the fact that Dave, I passed three point: six billion in aid to states to help them manager elections in november. There's a lot of Democrats have done in the house. I think people dont even know about

but I would certainly help if binds elected, they're gonna make research the voting rights act, a top priority, they're gonna make putting judges on the court for any vacancies laughed who, with with support ruling in favour of laws, I favor voting rights. I think it was telling that this bill before the people act H. R one was the first bill that passed the house when democrats took over, and so I would hope that that's kind of would set the tone for what they were doing it by the administration. Because democrats don't want to repeat the cycle right when democrats get in there, they want to really aggressively make it easier for everybody to vote so that republicans will lose the voters oppression ashley, essentially they ve had for the past decade our berman. Thank you so much for joining us when I was really helpful conversation thanks. So much John appreciated. Thanks german for joining us. When we come back. We're gonna play a game about trumps pole numbers hey, don't go anywhere more of love it or leave it coming up, love it or leave it.

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in earlier poles released over the last few weeks or donald trump has some pretty bad proven numbers, some bad pulling numbers, simple: exciting swing, state numbers, the new york times as Biden up forty nationally and searching and swing sates up eleven in michigan and wisconsin, ten and philip pennsylvania. Ninety north carolina, seven in arizona and six in florida. The numbers are slightly lower in florida and arizona because everyone in the state is too sick to pick up the phone. I'm very sorry about that job, while these numbers are obviously a reason to be hopeful wilson. Did. I not take them to seriously. Ok, The reason we should not take them to seriously is because we are Remember what happened in twenty. Sixteen, when a lot of people got pretty fucking cocky all right about pulling numbers and didn't can you're, just how good a chance there were the doll trumpet when we do not want to do that again, and so we wanted to play a game too high, just how similar the current narrative is. Twenty, sixteen in a game were calling hey. Let's not fucking,

get to go to michigan this time here to play is J, c, J, hidell, hey John I'm fabulous. What part of the country are you in CJ, I'm actually in Louisville kentucky right now. Wow though? Yes, that's right, we are fighting still for justice for brianna taylor. It's actually quite interesting cause a lot of people are in frankfurt right now and we've got charles booker kicking ass too. Sorry in mcgrath you're gone did you go to the primary yesterday? Yes, absentee ballot, though cause Copa, nineteen a plan so, and so I doesn't sound like he voted for Amy It sounds like you voted for booker, absolutely de. Are you working right now? Are you and are you? What are you doing as you get? What do you do? What we wake up in, what's your day, filled with so I wake up and I, work for you know my allotted time get off play either smash your poky mine and then allow

I will hang out with my boyfriend for the rest of the day and then go home wash rinse. Repeat it's pretty good. It's pretty good smash. Brothers was never for me Well, he gets really frustrated, unlike like we just played we haven't played and allow because it was like a moment. Where are you now? I know you probably do were thrown in where you like, play a video game with and then, like you, know, he's like good but, like you know, I play video games. So it's like a whole thing. Yeah gonna get me in trouble, so I just think it it mean so much to him that he has its fun playing games in that's the most important thing. It is a matter that he's how good he is. Isn't that these games, I will say it was a real strain and our relationship in the early days. the oslo three. When an item would drop you at a race to pick up the item and you ever got. There first got the item you're, not good for our dynamic, but when they introduced items that only went to one or the other, the game decided. It was a tell we managed to stay together

is delighted by siege. I'm going to let you go, I don't even need to host anymore don't take over you just take over. No, it's good if you go in the rain the little bit, and so I am not. How do I am not at all? I did the do you have the car. The floor is yours, I'm enjoy. Listening to you. I am delighted that the floor as mine. Everyone please make sure that you keep in perspective that everything it's happening around the country is not something that people are just randomly doing ache as if they were enemy doing it, you'll be readily being done all the time we were constantly traumatized of you get here me, I'm black, but here we are constantly traumatized by seeing these videos of our brothers and sisters dying all the time when I say brothers and sisters that includes our trans brothers and sisters and are not and airy brothers and sisters were not binary, siblings. I guess, but we really really really need you got to support us. Don't had a look

reasoning and our frustration, because guess what not reasonable racism so like. Please give us a moment. Let us let our frustration out where come together, we're going to win in two thousand and twenty and we're gonna start taking things out from the bottom to the top, it's so nice to meet you thank you for share. The map but stop stalling. Alright, okay, you get try to get out of this game. Yes, all right! We're going to play the game, here's how it works! I'm going to The headline from trump polling numbers- and you have to tell us if it was from twenty twenty or twenty sixteen. If you think it's from twenty twenty say twenty twenty, we think it's from twenty sixteen say Bernie would have won. No say twenty. Sixteen okay say twenty. Sixteen or you read it. Yes, I am ready trump whacked by more damaging poles. one twenty. Sixteen, so it Senate Democrats grow confident as trump tanks. In pole, twenty twenty donald trump love affair with polls is definitely over

Twenty twenty. Sixteen J, I'm trying to an upsurge of love and ultra jobs. Paul numbers are so bad that gdp is starting to panic about a wipe out. Twenty sixteen donald germs. Pole numbers collapse as general election looms one he twenty sixteen zalzal. Fifty fifty that's what makes this? so that shall act. How embarrassing media geo. If you could flip a coin, you'd probably be doing at her. That's the reality geo p, a guy as trump poles sink amid divisive racial rhetoric. Twenty six twenty trunk phase is bleak. Pull numbers five months before the election, twenty twenty- you got it so you can Noah.

Are you going to make that noise every time you get it right or is that just a wound? That's like my one time you know like I have to get it out. I lost like what seven questions so I mean I might as well celebrate you're doing great. It doesn't even matter you're doing so well trump. Is to see his own campaign manager over bad pole numbers twenty four rat donald trump says w s. J pull a rupert murdoch hit twenty sixteen rat coming back, coming back, bolster trump approaching zero hour. Twenty succeed. correct new pulling data shows from faltering in key swing states. Twenty twenty rats tromp campaign, looks at electoral map and doesn't like what it sees like when I see either have been. Twenty money read it slowly dawning on trumped that he's losing that bake. That's me,

We twenty twenty lab rat. Why donald trump can't get to two? Seventy twenty six Correct seizure, fraught you, one. The game look at that slow start and then you came. Strong just started winning absolutely I just didn't yeah. I want to make your people I understand that he did a hare, but here see Jake, you ve won the game. I assume there is some sort of a prize I dont know what it is right now will make sure you get one. It was great to talk to you. Thank you for sharing your thoughts and Hang in there level. I will. Hopefully I don't get to your gas this week now. I hope so too busy guy come back a few more of our favorite moments from the piper it don't go anywhere, love it or leave. It is more on the way. What are they this brought you by cash. I get up catch up as a symbol, way to transfer money from one user to another. We love using it because it doesn't charge monthly fees or fees to send and receive money.

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