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into it. What a week, friends, which It is over. The witch trial has begun on Wednesday navy below zero point? Eighty seven impeachment managers who will prosecute the case against president trump in the senate. That's at shift jerry now, there's a loft grin kane, Jeffreys vow, damning, jason, crow and sylvia garcia, and after that all hell broke loose. First, the house release a treasure trove of documents they receive from love partners. A mister brett Had you wished on a monkey party, a background actor in the irishman and then for that very shooting realize you wasn't allowed to go back to the toy chaz, so we got work for rudy giuliani long way to go. Thank you for coming with me. where the parties, lest we forget, was arrested october, neither Dulles airport with a one way ticket out of the country after being charged with felonies for funding.

legal donations, republican candidates and campaigns, and then this week left and I sat down with rachel meadow to talk about his involvement in the criminal conspiracy at the heart of trumps, impeachment and implicated. Rudy, giuliani, secretary of state might on pay a former secretary of energy rick perry. Vice president, my pants and the second, where's person to ever attended Jeffrey Epstein dinner party, donald trump, partners is clearly bad news. So I take no pleasure in welcoming him to the resistance It's worth noting all this happened as they nonpartisan government watchdog. The geo found that the trump administration committed a crime when it withheld the aid to ukraine as part of the scheme. Parness help implement the very big deal. The evidence now release harness shows, first hand knowledge of these crimes by tromp, because poorness was the hand committing the crimes. There was even a a crime to do less their partners, jotted down on writs carlton, vienna stationary, which is-

on the nose is another reminder that we live in a simulation and the artificial intelligence. Constructing a reality is depressed about our failure to stop climate change, which is the point of the game one of the note said- and I quote, get someone key to announce that Biden case will be investigated, which confirms what we all know. Trump was focused on abusing his office, a smear Joe Biden, who was a sweet old man in no condition to deal with its mean. On top of that, there were what's at messages from Robert who the new york times described as- and this is not a joke. and erratic ex landscaper? I've said this before, but trump is trying to commit crimes unequal and international scale with just sea level. Far. characters Also. What do you do? to become an ax landscaper.

Partisan hide a K. A kyler, runnin stinky had quoting had quite conversation over tax, hide wrote that he was monitoring american ambassador, the ukraine, Marie ivanovitch, who is getting in the way of their Biden scheme. He wrote a bunch of messages about our movements, how we wanted to bribe members of our security team to relay her moments, which are terrifying in conjunction with trumps phone calls, his linsky, which imply that the ambassador was quote going to go through some things which, to this day we have her learned what that meant. Now we don't yet know what these texts means and hide has the energy of someone who was kicked out of Charlie sheens entourage and two thousand eleven for being too on, even by I am sure your bonneville was rushed out of ukraine by the state department soon after because they were planning some sort of surprise party anyway. When and I sat down with rachel matter, our generation's lesbian, walter Kronk. I do sometimes gives a little too much context

Then partners at this present trump know exactly what was going on. He was aware of all my movements. I wouldn't do anything without their consent, the rude giuliani or the president, Obviously, I think it's worth being sceptical of the store, there's one thing we know about trump, he doesn't care about consent. But what what are you doing The hard reality of our existence partners also say this about his relationship with trump. I mean we're friends mean, when you say friends that me and then watch football games together within he'd hotdogs wholesome little conception of friendship when vince. on said hi donald trump, and if you people want to it a brick over that as your fight go for it, I'm not in on this one, I'm just, and there is one day, found fascinating, which is when VON walked away tremendous smile on his face. Like he was seven year old jewish boy in nineteen fifties, brooklyn who just met sandy colfax,

So many of our problems start right now, with lonely broken guy. Less divorced or emotionally divorced old men. meaning through attention, money or importance of any sort. And all I'm saying is bruce- brings dean, You go to the white house sing a song and tell trump how cool it is that he wants witnesses at the tri harness also had. This is about our vice president and ronald reagan- tether. My pants what was the key at that time because of the negotiation, the pets would not show up. Nobody would show of tourism on racial unless he announced an investigation into Joe Biden. Now? U S, officials, particularly by spencer, my pants, but not comes in particular vice president, my pants, no wonder you Reigned in announced the investigation I wouldn't want my pencil.

a big day either in part two of his interview with mad outlet, poorness compare trunk to a call leader. I would say this: if you're going to join a halt at least join one of the fun ones with mushrooms and sex this is called where you get yelled at by a malignant narcissist until you have to get interviewed by george snuff, in on your way to prison shit, he called part is that he was in dc for two years and never left the trump hotel and he went on to add the toilets kept me in there. You flush once and it's all gone just incredible elsewhere. You might have to leisure fourth of July. Here thirty socket. partners. Men went on to say that firing reminder which was directly connected to getting officials in ukraine to announce a bite and investigation. Here's had to say next week,

it's supposed to be corruption. Investigated announcement has to be about Joe Biden and hunter Biden. That reason he said the name Biden needs to be spoken myself. As always, it is not them to announce corruption. Investigations are anticorruption efforts that was not in it. to be about Biden. They had to say bible, Are we have a lot to cover tonight, but before we get to our guests in the last few weeks a number of candidates, including in castro, corey booker and marion williamson withdrew from the twenty twenty primary and we wanted to highlight those we left behind in a segment we're calling in memoriam. Eric swallow first act in foreign policy or breaking up with russia, making up with nato primed to pass the torch mike.

it's time to make some ways for change, chime laptop or not asking not asking more often the women. Would you be willing to put a man on the ticket j immensely. I am a politician conviction. I voted for the assault weapon bill goes against the repeal of glass steagall and I think Harry potter should be the first to mention the brand first thing that I'm going to do when I'm president is I'm gonna clorox the oval office, I'm in this to win. That's one bill de blasio how you feel about scar, scar, tim right, but they ve met use guy, ok, yeah, of course, here at home a role models of the thought some respectable? Did you got a minute and the more modest joe says, tat

Unfortunately, we cannot find any footage of Joe says tat stephen forward. Only that actually won in trumps, the only one in the field of thirty seven that actually won a drunk state and literally the only field in the state that one stay where Donald trump come alone vienna. He reminds me of them that guy in the wizard of oz, you know when you pull back the curtain, it's a really small. Do lean castra twenty seven after I start speaking to try and explain to him what I'm about the lights go off in all building alike. I

This is not a metaphor for the rest of my campaign that it's never going to get started. The lights go out marion Williams and always make new zealand a place where it's the best place in the world for a child to grow up, and I will tell a girlfriend you are so on the one integrity or have their heads in the toilet. They were looking for poo yeah. I love that one now we're all kind of sad come back governor, deval, Patrick, is here, don't go anywhere more of love it or leave it coming, love it or leave. It is brought to you by okcupid just because this I'm not saying that again, just because this svelte young pundit, loving podcast hosts, is off the market. Comma thanks tommy. What's funny,

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drives the national anthem playing and all of you cheering for your next president. That's the idea. Let's talk about it right, so do some personal reasons you enter the race late later later sure yeah, let's not make a normative, Judgment, let us later than some others later than some forty or fifty others. By the time you announced the field was chalk, a bunk with politicians, tech entrepreneur, billionaires to new york mares. What you decide that it was still important to get in. There is whereas you know we were ready to go after the midterms in two thousand and eighteen we had a date. We were You know you're a roll out plan and my

if Diane was diagnosed two weeks before the launch with uterine cancer and that sort of thing that brings your feet back to ground and we decided the best thing was to pay attention to that into her. I still think that was the right decision. We said liberated thirty five years of marriage last may and she is cancer free, the meanwhile, the you know the the field continue to evolve. A lot of the candidates are friends of mine and yours, but frankly you know we have a moment where obviously job one is to rid the country of this presidency, but I think that's yes, absolutely critical, because our democracies and

in in trouble, but I think the question right now is beyond the character of the candidates, this time it's the character of the country, because if we don't deliver after we rid the country of this presidency, I think our democracy is still in jeopardy and because you know I once I was with the president obama talking about the things I liked and didn't like about campaigning- and I tend to like everything about campaigning except two things. Asking people for money and the bragging and he said, get over it. So, in that spirit I will say I'm the no one else in this race as the range of life and leadership experience that I do building bridges to make change that lasts and I think change. That last is what we need right now. Are you just watching is amazingly these fuckin morons. I could find crush every one of them. I get Amy clubs,

as the one taken on pete I want to take on pete mayor south, been indiana, wisely, bother you, so he doesn't when doing your. This is your voice. Yeah I like mayor pete, has been on this show, I think, he's great. I'm traveling you in my mind than outright, but so no, you weren't on the debate stage on tuesday, but they were each and you have to be white to be on the debate stage. So sorry, it wasn't now and that was uncalled for I don't know he was a requirement, but it was an outcome. It was an outcome, so They were each ass. You know, why are you the best kennedy to defeat trump, and I do think you know everybody cares about what happens the day after trump is gone, but one reason you know I would argue this race has and settled out and left an opening for someone to enter the race now is there is a bunch of peace?

jockeying to make the best illegibility argument and none of them have hold. So what is your elect ability case? Look, I'm the opposite of downward from you know. He grew up ray, I grew up poor everything he has touched he's broken everything. I've touched, I've tried I d make better. I think I have a lot to show for it he's been in the private sector. I've been in the private sector, but I have actually build things: the lass and you know as governor, we came out of recession. number one in america in student achievement. Ninety nine percent of our residents have health insurance. Ninety nine percent we're number one inveterate services, energy efficiency in entrepreneurial activity a twenty five year- employment high in the highest bond reining in history. So we do things. that our ambitious in nature, but we are humbled enough to bring people in so you can get changed at last. He does duff

that is all about the performance. Art lives divide. As far as I can tell and very little of worth lasts, except if we have another, four years, a democracy in tatters. so I think what s the only way to say it is I'm about his opposite, as get in the other thing is, you know, I'm very, very slow to burn he. You know you can set him off like that. But you know you got a deal. You know in the world a party with folks who agree with you and those who don't and keep your head up and listen and be respectful and still drive your agenda, and I can do that and he can't so. You know america can decide, but I think we've got a pretty good choice. So governor massachusetts. We, the second blank governor, were elected in the that right to strike,

you let the civil rights division at the department of justice, correct, he also spent time in the private sector- and I want to I want to read this headline- it's a mean headline, but I do think we're gonna know your response to this line of attack. This was that, and the daily bees, big oil subprime lenders, devolve patrick's resume is a one stop shop. If industries democrats, loath in a pete mayor pete's, face questions about assignment mckinsey. What do you say to Democrats who are in a fighting mood their responding to Bernie message there responding to us with words message? about taking on corporations about structural change and who want to know that your time in the financial sector doesn't mean you'll be too conciliatory when the time comes, for them now. Look at my writing. Hungering fighting is a fair question because, frankly, you know I'm a capitalist, but capitalism has a whole lot to answer for a lot to answer, for we ve been practising this very short term. Get the next quarter results for about forty

years now and that same bad behaviour by the way has crept through. The way we govern ourselves is very election. Psychological john cycle or new cycle, the new cycle and our generation to generation. I know you dying to ask me in particular about the work. I did it being capital whereas I set up a business to invest in businesses for social, an environmental impact because I wanted to demonstrate you dont- have to trade financial return for so school or environmental responsibility. That's been a false choice peddled by companies for a long time, so we invested in companies, for example, that a company that diverted green waste from landfills, where would otherwise turn into methane and recycled it sold it. composting, soil and and ground cover a company that damn delivered low, cost high quality, dental care for poor kids, which the big

gap in our health care system- and you know those companies need capital scale to, and I'm really proud of the fact that we made a point that this, like so much of what's peddled in our public life, was a false choice and you know why you better be glad somebody is making that point, because we have, as we make our government functional and just We need a private sector that is also functional and just and that's been my work in the private sector, just as it has been in the public, whereas one more question for we get to the just pure comedy. I know let's get to, we're getting to know whether you know you ve talked about sort of what led to donald trump, and you talked about the fact that hate player in tremendous role in making someone like trump making it possible for someone trump to reach the white house, but that it wasn't only hay and that there are other problems, other structural problems that are cultural problems,

Do you think right now, democrats are enough to understand and change and to speak to the economic pain and cultural pain that people to be so cynical as to pull the lever for some of my trunk. I I think I am persuaded, as is my friend John, says that all races voted for trump. All the people who voted for tromp a racist, and I think it's important to understand that and to respect that that is not a compliment to troll, but that as you know all these cheery economic indicators that we here right now they don't tell the whole story, you know unemployment as low as long as you count, but they're all three of the minimum wage jobs people have to survive in flight is low as long as you don't count the cost of health care or housing or education right, the very things that enable people to stabilize themselves and move forward

in no way onto a path of economic mobility. We have a very these were issues before download from the first. one who I believed said add on a national level that conventional politics or a thousand politics wasn't working for most people was Barack Obama. Candidate trumps said the same thing. You cut right through to be saying the same thing and we need to speak to their that's, why I say it is critical. He go, but we cannot go back to doing what we to do, and so I think yes, I totally get the anger out there, but guess what I'm saying chicago. We ve been feeling that anger for generations generate. the same feeling of not being seen and heard and rather than just I'm trying to harness anger and see that as an opportunity to make america true, that's all

for governor pan, graciously agreed to like queen for a day or dec aids, grover norquist or what would happen if boss baby grew up, went and why you met a cuba. Bohemian girl and union square was heartbroken when she chose to date. Some crust punk with a chair we're very short and then transported dartmouth enjoyment. I ran book club has asked for public candidates for office design is pledge committing to its core values: no new taxes, no elimination of taxes. Since no watching the new episode of bosh before he gets home from work and sins, Consider myself the grover norquist workers, people who watched the crown both wishing I were prince, but also wishing they were getting figured I'd start my own pledge during this primary I'm pinning down the presidential candidates down on the issues that matter to me most in a segment we call queen for a day. governor patrick, has graciously agreed to be nine candidate to base the gauntlet. Are you ready,

governor ready you're, not today states have the option to choose permanent standard time or to participate in daylight saving time as president will you I'd sure, sign into law, a revision to the uniform time act of nineteen sixty six to give states a third option to remain on daylight, saving time permanently. What is the right answer to get your endorse. Its yes you're gonna. Do it you won't you I know I know open to it. Globes you're invited me to the white house to talk about it or what you and that really worked on me. You I t v day. You know that. you come to the white house and talk about anything you on earlier That is correct, aright softball question. Don't over think it should be here's be allowed to hunt human beings for sport, don't they now

now. Good answer, good answer: will you enshrined in the constitution the right of the person in the middle seat on a plane to take possession of both armrests because they deserve it? It's What what are we doing here, both armrest middle, see, come on. Look since I spend a great deal of my I'm in their position right now. Yes,. as president, Will you require car companies to create additional signals instead of just left her and right turn? Specifically, we could use. Thank you, sorry, and I'm not mad at you are mad at my life because I hate my job. There's. No, for me at home- and yet all I want- is to get between them faster when it seems right to me, get the one that seinfeld said is well known in southern florida. The permanent left turn or the eventual left them like boy bans Paul

he's running for president- have to carve out their niece yanks got the robot war. Styles got looking directly into the camera. Closure has q, jokes and the fact that she is terrifying were what is your it factor. My it factor is net for other people to say not right now, apparently, I probably should be a deeply the real question it is, it can honestly, I answered with a with a sentence sure No, what are you know? We will ask you, people ask you who you want to play you in them in the movie, and I used to say I you said Denzil Washington. I have updated it. Its trevor Noah should it be considered a misdemeanor for someone to claim they deleted their facebook when they still use instagram Well, maybe a felony animal elena

I listen tough on tech top on tat, all right, you're, testifying under oath a senator ask you this our boss, you're under our boston sports fans cool. How many of you here from Boston how many of you here from new york Those sports means not we very cool a little ridiculous, because vital question of deep national importance. What movie best showcases, what it's like to live in Boston, goodwill, hunting the departed or this clip of to Boston, in discovering a baby whale What this is? j says it's a fucking, big sea turtle. It's a baby! Fourteen, we'll man holy shit.

Now we're embarrassed right because, as how we speak I just roseanne from this as I chicago everyone here governor deval, Patrick. Thank you. Thank you. So much such a good sport. I agree with the one more time the governor deval Patrick, the late show the commitment we come back, our panel, the don't go anywhere, love it or leave it is more in the would love it or leave. It is brought to you by express vpn. Express vpn is a software that I and thousands of love it or leave it listen. use every day to retire fans that originally my fans lesson

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a few hours ago. Yeah know I'm getting married too. I think we should cause a media storm and run away together. Wow. That would be exciting. I know we'll do a Michael barbero, that's what I call it. Oh, he says nothing the gays stick together rights are getting in trouble, no big fight with people, the ink by the barrel excise it everyone anymore. I just this week you wrote in a bad about elite memo inside of facebook. The memo written by Andrew bosworth, acre bars, thaws covered the companies, rationale for handling or not handling, yeah, political advertising and twenty twenty. You know they talk about

genuine their hands off underground handle your not handling at one that you raised that I thought with such a small point is. It is also about the way facebook talks about its failure to intervene, and it's the one they may have done repeatedly. Is they have blurred the lines between just speech on the platform and absolutely and despite many times, people point out to them hold on a second you're taking money for this isn't just about post shut, about your revenue, they keep making. The same argument is this ideological is just a pure lack of respect for people they just look in her eyes and just does bullshitting us, despite the fact that everybody knows what's goin on Well, I you know, I try to figure out why they're doing it because it really is they they want to do- is wrap themselves in free speech, the idea of free speech, because they don't want to have a cogent discussion with you about what they're doing, which is they're not making out of money from paying advertising, but its part and parcel of their entire economic system of facebook, and so by calling

paid speech where you point out there actually getting paid, and it's not the same thing and then say on twitter. Donald trump can keep tweeting today about is perfect, whatever his phone calls and things like that, but it did. The paid speech can happen and that's very different. You know at some point you have to say either the most cynical people on earth or perhaps they're, not mark. I don't much sure what's going on, like you know the inner there's expression, you know elegance, has its limitations, but stupidity is infinite by it, but I kind of wonder what they actually leave it. There's all these narratives within this companies, which is one of the more cold like companies in silicon valley, they believe their victims. I believe the russians really had no impact on anything. It's kind of gospel within the company and then the idea that they are the protectors of free speech has taken hold within that company so that they don't want to do anything about it when, in fact, it's an abrogation of platform responsibility, and it it does seem to flow from Zuckerberg eimer. When you interview. Am he made that comment that it

It had to walk back about why he'd be ok with glee, holocaust denial, Yuri said, holocaust deniers, don't mean to lie. Oh that's right! There break it up, but but you know in his public statements. He said that basically he wants people to be able to see what politicians say even writer lying, but it seems like presumes some shared basis, a fat zack on which people can use its vying with micro targeting see that's the part that they leave out micro targeting allows the trump campaign to a million different messages and a million different ears, many of which are lies and noble. Gets to see your scrutinised and when you see an add on a you know and an add on a tobin colleagues during a did that crazy sheep. Thank everyone and was able to laugh at it into to scrutinise her. You can't scrutinise these ads and that's What point is there combining lying with micro targeting and therefore you'll, never see what

happening in what they're doing, and so, therefore they can agree. They lie, and I think what would people get confused about is that everybody gets to say what they want, but that's not what's happening. There's no commonality about it, and so you don't see that you don't see what you need to see to determine its own. Incredibly, noisy, there's, so many messages online is not like tv online is not like newspapers, it's so vast and so impossible and so noisy. You can't figure out who's lying and who's. Not like dont. These people have parents like. Did they not knowing what it's like to see? A baby boom murderer to navigate phase in have parents have met all the there's another there. They believe that the older people being duped by this can mitigate their privacy settings and under stand. What ads are true and what answer false? They actually think that that's possible date. They do they like to be. themselves in with television newspapers and there's nothing like television and newspapers. People tell me any barriers have to do their jobs around these

things, including stories that are false and not false. Now, look they get it wrong a lot. That's not the case that they don't get it wrong, but actually, at the basis of as a you care about the accuracy, you know that you ve been around media people. I don't get it right all the time They don't wilfully, try to get it wrong or they don't say. Oh whatever appears a newspaper whatever. Who cares? There is down to the comments. It's just a very different mentality, what they can do it room the media industry, which of course, then the czech people accuse you of the reason you being mean debased book is because the ruining your business, my business, is just fine so's. You know I mean I thought or doing so, but it's a lack of responsibility and in an amplified weapon eyes, environment which we ve talked about before, and they they refuse to take responsibility where they get absolutely all the money and take none of the responsibility, and that's really it's bad for democracy, it's bad for anything, and then the government doesn't step in to do anything about it. I can see where they like it now that I've already great great business, let's bring out the rest of our battle,

the comedian and member of the three busy Deborah Ann hosted the urgent care pod. Please welcome back meteyards, you aren't, I mean draw I am I'm ok tonight I went out to dinner before I came here and I very confidently ordered something, but I thought was meant for one person. That was clearly meant for many people, but I was so embarrassed that I ate all of it and I felt I feel really bad was it was a whole pig yeah. It was this like seafood thing that had the word little in the name, l, I d d ele, it was l, I l lil, and it was then that it's a joke. I guess, but I ordered it and then it came and I was like- and I was meeting someone for the first time and I was like yeah- that's what he wanted of course,

so I ate it all and I feel really really bad and then the waiter came over and he was like. Oh, you actually forgot one piece of shrimp and I was like oh yeah. Actually it was. Eat that emanates took eminent ada and they threw open so excited to be banned outright. the founder of very small brothers, a writer, a g q magazine and the author of the book, but doesn't kill. You makes you blacker, please welcome back damon young welcome back. Rather me, you're back back now, back. you're. No, let us as europeans, merger in pittsburgh- and I remember my evening in pittsburgh, based on the same much we ate after the show, which is help amount. He's writing promote german, that permit for man to man, romania's, yes from and they put French inside the sandwich, because sometimes in pittsburgh you gotta get moving.

things to do? You do not have time to order of your eyes. You don't have time for multiple orders. You does you just pallid on the same thing, you eat it all the same bite We're very efficient city. You know, and I come from our steel background- is efficiency. You know Andrews, that's in green and our culture and I love that about pittsburgh. I love to have you rather sandwiches french fries inside cares, wisher I'm intromit investing so could you have it in your our end? I'm not a sandwich. Thank DR. Why would I do that? alright princess and whenever my knights. Just for everyone. Listening at home, I am watching the crown. There's me a lot of crown references I that just keeping just keep an eye on that'll be a lot of prints and references about a prince philip references. Are you excited for the Meghan and harry part when they get

I love. I love a show that says we're starting in the thirties and end in the present. I love that as an idea I love out pulled it is I can we go lands rural dwellers. I was like. I can't believe I have to say goodbye to clarify why but I can't believe I get to say hi to olivia colman speaking of entertainment earlier this, I you guys we're doing a late show by the way, so love to see you all earlier this week, before burning warren worked together to help Joe Biden become. President twitter was a buzz. Twitter, what's a buzz in anger about a different, equally important battle, I'm speaking, of course about the oscar nominations. Back and twenty fifteen after oscars, so white went viral. The academy invited eight hundred new members, in which thirty nine percent were female, and thirty percent were non white which doesn't sound,

in grape. There was a huge improvement. This year, not a single person of color was nominated for supporting actor or actress and among the supporting actors, every single nominee was over the age of fifty six. Despite films like little women and portrait of a lady on fire, not a single woman was nominated for best director. In fact, in the last decade, there's only been one time a woman has been nominated for best director. Only five women have ever the nominated for best director since nineteen twenty seven, only two hundred black artists have ever been nominated out of ten thousand possible slots, so thought. We'd have our own award show one that reflects the opinions of a great diverse society, and by that I mean our specific beliefs, I'd, love early that society Welcome you all to the pundits here's other planets are we awarded. I will read the nominees for different categories and our paneless have to figure out who should win that category? Ok as ready, ready got it,

highly subjective, and yet there is a right answer: the nominees for best movie to use the litmus test for whether or not people have good taste little women by gretta berwick joker by Todd. The bog phil The irishman, by Director and cats you haven't been Gacy talk amongst yours. it's definitely. Cats is definitely cars. Cats is the best they move. That date moved the birthday movie. I haven't seen it, but just a conversation about it I know our great first conversation as a litmus test for good taste. I feel like it's very easy to say that you dont, like cats, are alike you think, because it's a rondo like that or you don't like tat. The movie like, I feel like it very easy for building. We like we didn't like the movie, is so it's not a litmus test for something right.

You could like it liking things. You know like yeah that we would like it. It's called a like it. You get home and you go and watch I mean I had an amazing time watching cat. but I feel has been washroom before it was their shrimp before it I am actually went on an empty stomach. I was able to enjoy my way. Have all the answers, not joker that whatever to answer it. It is not now is now so Tom does incorrect actually I actually didn't land on anything, which is why this is so even harder. meet us. No, oh, here's. The thing isn't joker a great litmus test, because, if someone tells you add, is that joker is their favorite movie. don't? You know something really important. You got it it takes up argument, good taste,

no just a vile we're just using it as a way of just judging a personal it we're just jump in a person what he goes well then, obviously for me, little women cause Joe march is a lesbian, but go ahead. You guys stick together. No doubt You don't do you understood the two endings of that movie right? I have not seen out I'm sorry I'll watch when I'd stand. Well, please on has seen joker like thirty times have you see is what have you seen. I have seen the seeing the irishman, but that's only because you can watch it at home. Are you watch the thanksgiving didn't, do it took six hours after turkey. I watch.

in two sittings, the irishman and as it was meant to go to the experience on my phone waits for safety in general and the nominees for movies I didn't know, came out until I sought nominated for stuff ford, This is ferrari a movie about cars going green room. I richard jewel, which is like when they see us but about why people, because Clint eastwood directed at that poems of a movie about two pope's with a twist ending their reveals that he was pope durden time, and bombshell, which includes an incredible performance by charlie's thereon, who we all remember dated the lead singer of thirty blind for three years. What do you think our bombshell mansion?

It's a tough category, and I mean this. I already forgot all the nominees yeah that is correct. The room room gray was a great movie bombshell. Have you all seen it and I did I feel, like I see enough problematic white women like just the culture and anti aid and I have to pay A dollar go see him for two hours in a movie, their point fair plan every day to see begging, kelly cosplay when the real making kelly like exists at air like kate, Mccain, invest money, do yet I can read it and see the lesbian seen coming with market robbie at all, but go ahead. You like it just so I'm just a mighty everything from my grandfather, Dave Simon. He could tell you about every prominent jus, every

place in our society like he had a running italian. Like all of you like we're up to nine in the senate, johnny about you and lesbians. I interviewed cast of the outward today, so I'm in that kind of tone, so recorded as if we of the nominees for best picture that takes place in nineteen. Seventeen are, nineteen, seventeen, the godfather, part two stage the nineteen. Eighty seven animated film, and maybe little women, I don't. I don't know what to think Damon, I'm gonna limb and go in nineteen. Seventy

major anything big time anastasia I we stand bar to amuse her What do you stand? well, obviously little women, Joe margins lesbian. You know what actually you're all correct. That's all right! The nominees best driver are ford guy, moreover, guy the taxi driver. That ran over joker in joker or Adam driver large story, adam driver he's having a moment right now. I'm gonna go with him. I did washed the first our marriage story. What my life and that's not a thing. I recommend anyone do

and as soon as I realise the fallacy that light does this the error, my ways you know we we found some also do we got some hot dogs. I, and so but but Adam driver was great in the movie he's great. In most other things, he was ok and star wars, but you know I'll give them that, and so I'm gonna go with adam driver. You, stop them in london join and what I did not know that a solid enough the only had a nurse than watching with their spouses not finished It felt like american injure warrior watching that, with this balance right next you and all of just the their micrograms in all of the little arguments that you ve had. Would each other artists onscreen and you're watching them and then you're gonna talk about them later it was so fun there is this

with their even watch marriage story. I can't get myself. Sometimes you just can't get that button, the plague ally on it, but there is as it were, people causes. I don't see it if you want to be married, well that a kind of So how we do you think my relationship with survive? This performance wasn't worries about my marriage, I actually want to reason you know I'm about to get married again, which is the triumph of hope over experience, and and I don't want to see a we keep almost watching and again- maybe not so much. I vote for. the finally, our most procedures of war, the nominees for the florida

I'll. Take your word for the movie that should have been nominated at the very least were best picture. The nominees are the florida project, the florida project, the florida project or detective peekaboo, honest Respond right, I guess it really is a joke. The ok about how I do want to say something, but I feel about florida project which also release this question, because I loved uncut jams and both movies had an actor that willing to foe and Eric, but goes in, do it. For me, away, but I, but also what I'm realizing, that I just love seeing: actors from law and order in moving Eric, bugojno his inky black hair, and that movie igniting something he gives a performance in the film under siege that to this day

Goosebumps area for those in in uncut james, you feel like his hair die, is going to get like spill onto his face at any moment, it brings to the role by experience of that movie is being like whoa. I I must also stress that immunity like well, because you and the fat you anyway the project we come back the railways. the teeth, don't go anywhere, is more of love it or leave it coming, love it or leave it as brought to you by simply safe simplisafe home security is like getting commercial great enterprise level security, but for your own home, think about the security fortune. Five hundred companies use they need to know police are going to be on the scene. Immediately. Does exactly the kind of security you get with simply safe, there's a break in simply safeties is real video evidence to give police an eyewitness account, and that means police dispatch up to three hundred and fifty percent faster than for a normal burglar

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will. It has landed on bill bar and adjusted by kara yeah. Can you just explain to me what happened like I'd. Only people people know a saudi cadet shot and killed people at a military base in Pensacola Florida very similar to what happened in san bernardino many years ago, and he had to iphones with them, which you was communicating on an iphone five and an iphone seven and the damaged is part of the shooting. What was happening. They wanted apple open the iphone essentially for them, but they don't and say how or water how to do it and they can't this is designed not to be opened. Its encrypted is calling. You know this encryption debate and that was it was happened the last time, and so the first and the government ass for this, which is james, combing, asked they wanted them to open it. By

getting something that apple called a government o s, that it will allow the government to have a back door and change the very nature of and the reason why is problematic, as if you open one phone with this, you can open everybody's iphone and so billboard I got up there and made this incredibly disingenuous speech about the fact they just wanted it to open so he's, comparing it to a front door or something else when in fact, it's completely different. It opens up all kinds of issues that the government wants to to be able to have a backdoor into phones, which it is very risky and they tried to set it up like a fear thing or for it. Really disturbing, especially because he kept complementing the saudis effusively during it when, in fact, you know he said this is a matter of its important. Public policy is something that apples lots of a foreign. I thought is in the governor responsible for vetting the saudi cadets. Isn't a government responsible for looking at this? shall media fit this this particular man did so public social media feed when he talked about jihadism,

so. They weren't monitoring him either. So it's a it's a it's breakdown of lots of things but apple is, is the only thing keeping us from having our all our cell phones vulnerable bill bar is a disingenuous person, who was lying about the situation up? I was particularly irritated this week by the press conference that he gave, or he talked about apple, not substantially helping with the. opening the iphone any said. We just want them to open the iphone, which leaves out the fact that you actually can't open the eyes, which is how they designed it, and so is and you didn't ask apple to do anything in particular. He just said we wanted open, well can't be opened because design not to be open and that the fact that their pressing for this without asking for anything specific, like James call me dead, even though I don't agree with immediate ask for apple create a new. Alas, that would bypass all current o s. Says, in order for them to be able to enter anybody's cell phone at any time? And presumably if there is a government back door, it might be possible for governments like

the saudi govern yes and other authoritarian, yes to get access to people's phones, good exaggerates activists and others that are in danger. And I don't mind having the debate about this. This should be a public debate about whether we should have legislation to do this, but that's not what they want to do. They want to set it up in this fearmongering way in that its either. The terrorists or not, but you know this idea and it just one of that you know. I always thought that there is his name. Is so perfectly that here goes to the lowest bar, and then he manages to go further, and so in this case, it's really just that the entire speech was so offensive and disingenuous And to say that they actually did do subpoenas apple gave over tons of information that was on icloud and they most of the czech companies give up way too much information of the government of when under subpoena and they do it. But this case, their setting up a false dichotomy and a lot of people are like. Why would they just open the phone

it's, I'm designed to be open is designed not to be opened to really irritated by this particular man, but he does that. all right this minute again,. It landed on jokers eleven nominations over overdue joker super and Dana. Yes, yes back to me and I'm going to start with todd phillips during a press tour for joker. He repeatedly talked about how difficult it was for for comedians, to make jokes and for rich white men like the great work and again this is this- is taught philips the

Director of the hang over all school and a billion dollar comic book movie talking about how hard it is to get his product out there. Now I'm used to aggrieved white men getting their way because you know this is america and that's what america does mean in our president? Is nick rich white man caught his way so did joker getting eleven oscar nominations wasn't surprise. You know it making a billion dollar wasn't surprise, but what this surprise me actually solid, and I knew I figured it wasn't gonna be great, but I thought it would at least be provocative. I didn't think it would be so fuckin boring. I mean I will

waiting to be hit was starting to feel something in watching. It was light, whiting paint joke, and you know- and I know what came the montparnasse in his name right. While came phoenix. You know you know he lost a bunch away, he doesn't cross fit. You know he got some time Or did whatever you know any? He did at the dentist thing you know, so he deserves to the you know, denomination in the laws or whatever. But if I want to spend two hours watching entitled aggrieved and angry white men, be bored pie, it I'll just go to crack a barrel and at He's cracker beryl has good pancakes we spend it again the.

It is on space travel, cosmonaut major ever game time decision- and then you get to talk about a mine, in gripe with space travel is just yeah. Well, okay, so I got a call before the show started and they were like mitri haven't sent in your thing in and then the other guests are going to speak so eloquently and so intelligently about like real things. That actually matter and like res salient points, so you need to make sure that you're talking about something in an equally sort of intelligent way. So I was like great perfect space. Travel

Am I easy easy? It's easy for me to do this I'll do space travel and my group of space travel is just that I have not been invited to participate, and I think, that's problematic, because I think I would really do great job on the moon. I think goes a funny stuff from the ship. I think I will, We appreciate the opportunity I can eat anything. I'd have a great time on the fly there and, if I to go wider. All the dorks get to go, someone funds should get to go out. I would like maybe hook up on the flame, which would and I would talk about it. America- you get invested I will. I will maybe like single. While I am on the fly and it is a fly, and I don't care

as long as I'm in space. So I think this is a european outfit. I thing for me: string became, america, every time. I am on this pod cast, so many people were ply and they say what it does mean, look like and is doing became ii, We need to know based on the way she sounds her. Knowing voice tells us that she's very hot and we want to see or in a string bikini- and I do that if I could go on the plane to space, thank you. I am running her off is, I think, whatever you think about daylight savings. As long as I get to go to base. There is no daylight saving time and space exactly

it's been it again There was surprise. It is landed on the crown, but don't it also landed on mine hunter because I'm going connect him. How's it even boss of all there are such different energies. I love the crown myths about a group of rich people committed to a moral obligation doing nothing. There is an episode in which the royal family is filmed talk. about how boring it is to watch them being filmed watching television for a television show in the world.

Most recent and very dramatic episode is the story of the queen, not leaving her house for a week and then real, think she should have left earlier in the week there, very dramatic scene in which a birthday cake, walked into an ornate room and then queen Elizabeth, why into the room and says winston is dead. This is China shall write. The other day went churchill, Winston churchill is dead and it ruins that birthday party role credits And I'm gonna keep watching it around and I'm gonna watch when they transition from olivia to twice. Helen Mirren, I dont, know who's next in the raw stir. I

little bit annoyed that as prince philip gets older, like that management, and I, like that matthew, good. tourism, there is some hot. There is some hot royal than season one until now they're getting older and that's fine. The point is I go to netflix with an open heart. Alright, you show me the crown I may not get to it for a year or two, but I'm going to get right, because books have nothing on tv. And so I watched the away a deeply strain show about a an angel who uses the power of dance to stop mass shootings later, is also about an octopus and, I believe, a plane crash that wasn't shot might have come up in future seasons, but it was cancelled and I watch mine hunter. We're jonathan graph plays a straight person

you really gives it its quality. And there are moments during my mind, hunter we're just brief moment I believe I am watching hatteras actual mind hunter, but the o h cancelled mine hunter cancelled, yeah, you're finding out. For me, it's horse shit and the problem with netflix is because there's no ratings, you don't know until it's too late that you didn't. Do your part to save the show such a law. I would have done more for the way I would have out of more from mine hunter of very, very dark and deeply strain show about heterosexual mine hunter. On the ground I say this as someone who greatly admires what the robots netflix are making with the prick

eggs in their bath over the baron networks are reducing and so I only beseech the good people at netflix in their pan off from which they watch us all in our homes. Decisions. We make our market to complain about the fact that the everything auto plays in there's just no stop it none of you so much is come within fifteen feet of a television. A baking show begin supplied on that complain about it. That's your business! I also not going to complain about the fact that if you for even one fucking mom want to enjoy, and savers something you watched by experiencing the music chosen by a creator to play over the credits. Netflix reaches through that

said punch it soon. The vigorous it's as you go, fuck yourself episode for is already fifteen minutes in catch up your mother fucker. They ve already pay two dishes going to complain about it. I'm not I'm not do what you have to do netflix to keep us on the hook. I only ask you this. One shows around the bubble, strange and beautiful shows with witches and octopus is mine. Hunters just tell us put out. where and say: hey don't get to it. That's it is mine, hunter I can see him very much give us a and to know what's gonna, maybe have a chance of coming back or not just tell us just say: hey you may want to about launching a campaign to say the o acres we're gonna fuckin. Eighty six, this thing

or which are storing up magically handsome man. That shouldn't exist at least two of the crown but at least as kara helpfully points out. I do have the crown- and I We appreciated episode. That was one under percent prince Charles being rain down at school and we had, say: do you good night bag? You did

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