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And trees and remote speeches and panels, and I think, all in all, it was a managed to turn and obstacles to an incredible asset, and I think that that's an amazing feat, I'm also really pumps, We just came out of this convention and what we want. Every to do is go to vote, save america, dot com, slash adopt, and If you came out of this convention feeling like you, want to be involved that you want to do something we're going to have a weekend of action, we're in it right now, if you haven't picked a state to adopt, you can join me, Heads of you can choose one of the five others there also ok, you know I'd we make jokes, but the other states are good to adopt to that's just the truth, but if you haven't signed up yet. We've hit two hundred thousand sign ups for volunteers at a huge, huge, huge number of people in each He states, but that means a lot of you haven't done it yet and If you haven't signed up to help, do it with us. I hope you can do it with that with with a bunch of campaigns in your areas, but now is the time to get involved. We really need your and I really believe

If you want to have said that you signed up and did so so vote, save america dot com slash adopt if you haven't picked a state yet we're going out we're in a start where the conversation, Emily heller and I had on Wednesday night later in the show will be joined by sent. Brian shots job. Barrel, and only a paragon but first comedian award, winning writer and a host of the curse segment. We had ever done anyways gardens. Of course, I don't. Let's egmont, you ve ever done what a cruel you're just this is gonna get so attack is really the Emily's garden. Show community started out quite kind, but it is growing into a bit of a toxic vandam anyway, she's here, Emily heller, all you heller's angels out there she's here, I'm going to see her. I think it's a little outrageous, that year surprised that a gardening fan base has grown, restart and strong

well yeah you really don't you ve nurtured them, Yeah fertilizer. Yup vaguer. They thrive. on both- I really I will say, I'm incredibly proud of the work that we have done just as a community to terrorize you thank you. thanks everybody! I am by the way I see the tweets all right. I may not respond when you attack me. I see them right. I definitely see them. Let's get into it. What a week the convention was this who is evolving working very late every but don't worry, we put a lot of time into these jokes here we go this week. The democratic party their convention, but boy it was anything but conventional, oh well! Wordplay there there yeah, you know we live emily in a moment of worst case scenarios and all cobby out this by saying that we are recording this as the convention is still unfolding and much can go wrong, but I will say this: there was a true genuine chance that this was a total catastrophe just day.

Gas filled clergy glitch, ridden mess, live shots with like a to zoom, didn't chucks humor saying am I on my on, come on closure in a hot mike raging about a hare cliffs. You left in the car jokes about not being returned to sender, but with dead fucking silence, like all of that, could have been our life, but on the whole on the whole, it's working, I think, yeah it's working pretty well like, even when they cut to Amy club, which are like a few seconds before she realized she was on. I was like, oh my god, you know in jeopardy when Alex tour back is introducing all three of the can students and it shows them as he's like giving you their little bio like a schoolteacher from maintain delaware. She has been, I have three day winter and it's just a steady shot of the contestant and they're just smiling the whole time and they can't decide what to do with their phase. They don't do anything. I can't decide if it had been worse for

then too, just all be smiling before they realize their on camera for the whole time, for like a good ten seconds or if it's better to watch the face turned into a smile right at some again, it's it's really a matter of personal preference. Do you want your artifice pointed out to you, or are you just comfortable living inside of it right? You know, yeah and by the way, You know. We have said that this is all going well, if you, how pull this convention off My had to you. I'm incredibly grateful and in between on Saturday morning, dimension went off. The rails will just delete this an issue of your hearing as it were, didn't we weren't fun yeah, and you know that I still think there's some leeway for it to even get a little bit more screwed up and for us to still be impressed by. Like they ve been doing the oscars for like eighty years, and they said. screwed up the best picture like two years ago of death, What? If what if, on thursday night, they actually give the nomination Eric swallow

I opened up the envelope and it's like wait a second. This can't be right. This is a fuck up. I still would love to hear him accept the nomination for awhile, even though he knows it's wrong. The way those producers did got the bike. My wife, my parents, are gonna, go also. On tuesday we learned that dr Jill Biden once punched a bully in the face and revealed her new catchphrase. When they go low, you pummel them in the face until it feels like Joe and broken glass. I got these guns at so cycle. Bitch lot modest changes running succeed. Yeah yeah. I really think that what the swing voters needed to hear Do you think it's too much to talk about pummeling a face into it, as the consistency of dough and broken was, I think, you're putting it just in terms that the quarantine soured o bakers need to understand.

And on monday, president from tweeted save the post office from day. of this crisis. The present has bravely and repeatedly asked the united states postal service. Why hidden yourself we're gonna talk about the convention a lot, but there's a lot of other news that happened this week after the move was met with criticism as spokesperson for the postal service announced that the agency will put a halt to any a dish the changes that have slowed down mail and put the prospect of an election conducted in large part by mail at risk? The spokesperson said: We really regret that you found out about this. We're really sorry that this came to your attention on Thank god. I just I just want you to know that whatever I don't even remember I was there before, but I changed it ruined. You know what I think getting to that punchline much like our male just took longer than we expected a too, and there are mitigating circumstances that I'm taking into account. Thank you,

it wasn't ideological. It wasn't just in common. In this case. I also want to shout out the fact that, like people protested outside that guy's house- and I think that's a big part of why he changed his mind. So I just wanna say score: one four annoying someone in person. I think right now. We actually dont truly know how ideologically committed to joy is this mission that he's on. We know that he has some financial interests. We know is obviously like a lot of sort of rich pro trump country club republican donor types have a lot of dumb right wing ideas about how to do things- and he has investments that give him lack of interest in all about. I think that's true, but at the same time you know gordon's on them with some hotelier from fuckin. Portland is like I don't need this. I don't want to go down for this, and I had to imagine this rich guy de Joie not used to this level of scrutiny. You know he was told when he took the job. You know Benjamin franklin once had this job and

He's like Benjamin franklin thinks you're a fucking piece of shit yeah. So I imagine that would get you I'm just surprised that more trump appointees haven't done that math of just like. Yet you have Benjamin franklin's job, no one's going to think you're. Benjamin franklin, the way you're doing it. He like donald trump, is like the guy who runs for student council president with the promise to dismantle the student council. That's what he's doing. Yeah. Is that a bad analogy? I'm trying to think about it? I guess I made that sound a little bit too cool, because only cool people do that. That sounds awesome that it's, like you know, a pizza day is interesting right how few people have turned on tromp, even now, even at this late stage, like how many people have made the calculus that is good for business, whatever business, maybe whether its being elected politician being a propagandists being just a corporate tighten who views him as a useful idiot. It is striking how many have made up our get it. How few like look

delight john k sec. I Ain t hurt you welcome at everybody who like they had to like him. Let me let me get the idea right out of your head. You don't have to I, I don't like John K, six politics, I'm a little uncomfortable with using republicans as validators too, but at the same time like we don't have to like John K, sick to use him like, we don't have to redeem him to use him and the fact that you're morally opposed to him. Maybe that to you means that he's that what he represents is so morally reprehensible on issues like choice, among others that it's not worth the political benefit of using him, but the I think it is a practical question as to whether or not these people have used to us right now. The key thing for me is: why is he so fuckin special like every knows me. That's the tragedy of this matter and you know like we keep seeing these incredible speeches. Joe Biden's speech was incredible. Michelle obama speech was incredible. Bernie did a great, a really really great job, just a really clear, excellent case. I you know bronco,

the exercise of that speech of just come out. They are excellent, but some of it is of its. I think one of the reasons that this era this moment has been so depleting for us is. We are having this incredibly obvious, crystal clear: debate where everyone, including most of the people, arguing with us, know that donald trump is blatantly brazenly unfair and despicable a genuine monster, but there's just bad for business to say so, like at least look. There are plenty of liars and politics in there always have been there. Ve been plenty of frauds Paul ryan. rod, but fundamentally it was two groups of people who believe they were right, but I'm supposed to be everybody, agreeing that trumps, a piece of shit but have Thinking is in their interest to pretends, not yak, and I think that there is a lot of like people who feel so much loyalty to their party, and I think that's where having republican speakers. I guess that the point of that is like the people who feel like

they have to vote for a republican, maybe they'll be like oh cool, the coolest guy ever John K sake is switching, maybe I am allowed to, but I dont think they're watching our convention. That's The thing I'm not sure they are. I think we don't know. I, like my hope, is I mean look buying us to do two things he has to appeal to those suburban moderates, particularly suburban women, the people that gave us the majority in two thousand and eighteen, the people that will help us in the swing states that we need, but even as we're going after those moderate voices, we you have Bernie, making a really compelling argument from the less we s city, both right. Yes, to reach the kind of swing, voters and then he has to reach the kind of base voters in a non voters and get people energized and enthused and donating and voting. And I think it's about striking that balance- and my hope is you know, case iq and those like case eq- do their job for those voters, while making clear, via the policy platform with Bernie with some of the other progressives. That Biden is not just trying to go back to normal that he understands

We need a new normal and hopefully I think I hope, they're striking that balance I dunno yeah. I mean I will say, like I don't know how effective case x speech will be, but I will say that like if we're talking about clear messaging, I don't understand why he was talking about a crossroads while standing at a fork in the road, which is also a metaphor. He could have used and more really demonstrated by where he was standing. When it's one to say that you are at a crossroads because a crossroads, it's either it actually has three options. Really, it's four options go back from where we started. We can keep going straight. We can go left. We can go right. We really two options ahead of us like, obviously we can't go back in time. We really should choose between one of two paths: because if you want to get hyper specific, really there's an off ramp, yeah, but there is a real we're on and it's fuckin awful and theirs

rather than it takes us a surface streets, and we have to make a bunch of decisions when we get to those service streets, because sometimes the sign says that there is a rest stop, but actually it's a little bit further away than you'd expect. We don't know where the rest up is, but we should get off we gotta get off here. That's the key that we need to get off the highway We have two p m. We are out of gas, I just dont know if, like he had decided crossroads ahead of time and then his location scout just didn't, do their job did anyone pitched chain to a fork in the road. I didn't know me: I'm just have questions about the messaging and I just hoping that the next couple needs we got a little bit clearer on our metaphors. Can we please just put a little time into the into the metaphors making sure there just crystal clear, gabor right, yeah, I'm trying to think of another metaphor that could be slightly wrong.

Here. I am on a bridge over troubled Both water, cement and airline gets an overpass also we presented tromp announced that he would pardon Susan, be Anthony the pioneering woman's rights activist who was arrested for voting in eighteen Seventy two when it was still illegal. Unfortunately, after This year's susan b anthony won't be able to vote because she owes the state of florida bunch a legal fees, when she heard the news zombie susan be Anthony crawled from beneath the soil at a grave site in rochester in new york and said owner. Thank you and politely we buried herself, but just ass. She was closing the lid from our carbon. She shouted black lives matter and then she said really quietly the women's lives matter more fucking, twitter and she was gone sector, so fascinating change there. Man yeah like I'm, not one of them

people that believes that trump is playing. Fourth dimensional chess, but if I did believe that I would definitely consider that maybe he was trying to get us to cancel susan b anthony and twenty money? I think this is so stupid. I would like to meet a human american person whose vote or mind is changed. By the pardoning of susan. I would like to meet this person and just sit down have a conversation to us, stand where they are on certain issues, how this specific act to turn their attention change their mind, move them off the fence. and are you imagining that this person decided to vote for trump because of this or they divided to vote for bite and because they just could not believe that trump had the audacity to pardon sir

it'd be Anthony a criminal who belongs in jail. So we can take issue with the fact that women were denied the right to vote, but the law is the law. Shame on president trump, you, governor, Gavin, newsome, declare State of emergency in response to wildfires across the state, a heat wave that is causing rolling blackouts and, of course, the pandemic could be worse at least The earthquake on the san andreas fault hasn't cut off our access to fresh water from the colorado river caused any other massive disruption in our society that are castro municipalities are in no position to handle because of the ongoing economic and health crisis. Should I not say that did not happen,

Are you tempting fate, or did that happen, and I just haven't noticed yet because the water hasn't gotten here? I think that I think that if there was a massive earthquake on the san andreas fault that shut down water to LOS angeles, I think it would have crossed her phone by now. Yeah- that's probably true, but I will say that it just really makes me want to recommend that everyone listen to the last episode of Emily's gardening show where we talked about ways that we can lessen our dependence on water imported from meanwhile in mississippi. Seventy one out of eighty two counties reported corona virus cases in schools and over four hundred teachers and students across a state of tested, positive, I hate to say it, but it seems, like president trump isn't doing nearly enough to hide these numbers. And high pillow c o and unflagging trump supporter, Michael and dell, has tirelessly and basically promoting a dietary supplements as a cure for co nineteen, a treatment the my pillow guy has uses access to pitch to an enthusiastic president trump. Why mandela's

board member for the company that promotes a supplement and trumpet care of people live or die, because none of us are real This apparently has some similarities with the plot of the two thousand eleven film contagion, but I'll never know it because if you think I will ever In my life, click play on that movie again, no fucking way that we're not to pry my eyes open, like clockwork orange, to get me to watch contagion outbreak, no, fucking way. I will never. I will never see gwen of power oh die in that movie? Again, I will ever watch where nay rousseau at her fucking peak that virus from care.

stacy and out back them, who top of irish. I remember every detail of that. I haven't seen either movie, should I watched them now? No, absolutely not! These were tough films before yeah, where they tap, because you were like. Oh, I don't know what we do if that would happen, because I feel, like those movies were made sort of an alike with the understanding that they would never happen. Wrong outbreak to me as in that in nine. These disaster era movie like it, goes in its outbreak, its deep impacts, a few others thou relied an arm again. It lets game it out our right. Let's see what happens when heroic americans go up against, a net natural force and see what they could do despite corruption despite the problems, our society to see if we can overcome it, but there are was very much like, like, let's warned them, that's warned them too contagion is very much like. We need to show people how bad this can be.

What I remember about armageddon is that aerosmith sings love song, that's about live tyler's character, whose stephen tyler's daughter- and I have always thought that was a little weird- is weird. That's grows where there is just like the music video it made. The music video have kind of weird vibes to me cause in the Music video is, and then ass, like, like using animal crackers like on her stomach. It's like very there's like real intimacy and video. Does that sound familiar and my grandmother eyes, merrier bareback me like any nineties music video. Can we just leaving this part with none of the contact? Absolute salute. One last point when I saw by the edges want we may have cut this down, but I just want you to know that I stop recording, because I really wanted to remember this point, and then I remembered what it is. Here's the point tail. We only makes an incredibly stupid fucking decision in the film deep impact she does

I do not go into the life saving bunker, a spy She was awarded because of our important role of informing the people about important matters of national interests. Gee decides to literally kill herself too? her estranged father, one more time before they get killed by a tidal wave, but it was clearly unnecessary, because if they had just gone inland they would have lived, it makes absolutely no sense. It is just as bad as charlie's their own, not running sideways from the fucking rolling spaceship in prometheus, and it has bothered me since I was a child. Since I was a little boy, yeah, that's really stupid tale. The owner's decision making has made me fucking angry in that film also she's an MSNBC corresponded because CNN said noted the tire on tuesday, the president

they did cedar rapids the epicenter of the disastrous fall out from a storm that left thousands homeless and without power. According to reports, the visit was brief, with the president never leaving the airport to survey the damage, as is customary when asked. Why didn't actually take the time to see what happened to these communities? The present said: oh, I don't if you live or die because none of your real picking up, earlier theme. That's it. At the end of our model, that's Emily's! great to stick around to play a game, but when we come back, we'll have Josh barrow a naomi, a paragon to talk a bit more about the democratic convention. They don't go anywhere, there's more of a love it or leave it coming up, love it or leave. It is brought to you by express vpn when you use the bathroom, you always close the door behind you right and you don't want random passers by looking in on you I don't know. I haven't used a bathroom outside of my home in

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an comedian, actress, writer and co host of the couple therapies, podcast returning champion, me a paragon always good to see your face in your covert girls and that thank you and george. I just want to return. I want to make an edit not to the show but two our conversation to call you a returning champion his wealth. Incredibly insulting tab to reach, in gas and only acknowledge the wonders and champion. I regret it if regretted it instantly. That's quite all right. So we are recording this thursday night. Joe Biden just concluded his remarks and we end what was a historic democratic convention, no crowd, no floor, speed, no balloons bite to my mind what could have been an absolutely incredible design stir to me, manage to turn many aspects of lacking an audience and being able to use documentary footage and pre planned clips into an asset. I wanna go to each of you I'm to go to Josh, second, because I'm afraid he's going to

You have a contrary. Opinions, that's gonna, make me our. I dont know spoilers so going to go to naomi first, for what would you we'll get into the individual speeches. But you know after four days of this. What is, how are you feeling I gotta tell you a little out like I was like having some viewers in a way that I did not expect to yeah, especially from jojo rabbit, you know, and so it was like really, I was surprised. I really was like git up, because the whole time everybody talk about he D, homeboy and Julia was like he saw my magazine because, like what do you get to the root forbade, the potion all. Josh? What are your? What are your initial thoughts? You know The convention was good, especially under the circumstances. I mean engines always feel a little but outdated. they're, always kind of boring, and it's always kind of like you know this man hours of this content who, who really to sit through an watch. All of us I'd like I came into it in general. I don't expect convention. Then, especially you take away, live audience at any rate,

I've been that creates, and I thought they did a good job The circumstances I thought the roll call on tuesday worked especially well with all of the states. That was actually a thing that I thought worked a lot better in a virtual format than it does in the hall and really allowed to it. It really showed the diversity the country and a lot of different ways and and was compelling, I thought Biden, was good himself on thursday night and I thought his speech. I thought Michelle obama speech number them were really they really. thought about. You know. Well what is a good speech? Look like in an environs, with no audience and they really it in a way such that didn't feel like a speech weirdly delivered to an empty room, and then also mean. I think the the aboard think remember that a convention is that it's really it's not done so much for the audience. It's done for people who will hear about what had in the convention and news stories in other places, and I thought they did a good job. In writing the right news stories. They create the right messages about what Joe Biden would do if he was president's overall, I thought, the good job with a naomi me. I think the EU publican

may have created some too low expectations when they ve been hitting this message that Joe Biden would not be able to sort of string assent. and together so far, the reaction to his speech One of like, I think, genuinely think people are pretty impress, with his deliver ip to me. It feels as though we didn't just overcome those dismal expectations, but actually did quite well what you think I think so too. I think there was definitely a feeling of like oh baby. You got this. You got this property up, but it really did feel like he wasn't just reading, because that's what I also worried was going to happen. It was going to feel a little stiff and it was very because having you don't want to go off book, but I felt like he was. Acting to a script in a way that I felt like was really good,

what do you think? Well, I mean I've. Always thought Biden was good. I mean you're, you love by your get your ride or die Joe Biden you're you I joe tattoo, on on your lower back. I've been frankly pretty irritating about it. The whole way along chatting about you tend to be irritating about most of the positions that you will well. But but look I mean, like I not the most in touch person in the world right like I'm, not really a of people I'm not like, and yet how is it that, like? dreyfus and I were the only people in the media who, like day one were being like binds goodies, leading that probably means he's. Gonna win he's a good candidate whose appealing evil he is not. He doesn't have dementia lie He was impressive through the primaries too, I mean he's he's, never been the smoothest speaker. I think people really overestimate the importance of that Adam and I think liberals frankly have spent too much time making fun of the way the Don't talk to me in the president talks like an idiot, but in a way that doesn't matter merely as much as people tend to think that it does

And Joe Biden is a much better speaker in the president and so on I think you know he really he connects with people. His fundamental decency comes through in a way that I think speaks to what a lot of people want right now, and I think that he is broadly acceptable too out of the country in a way that is great in this time. That's a good way to set yourself up for a position where you might win by nine points in the fall, which I think would be a really good thing for the democratic party and a good thing for the country. Frankly, to have a president who lots of people kind of like be refreshing to have a president who people or maybe not that strongly emotionally invested in either direction. I think, what's gonna make Strong candidate is that there is this, this pupil and and Let's talk about enthusiasm, trumps supporters like say when we have all the enthusiasm, but the question was: would you be angry if the other guy one and like sixty one percent of Biden, voters that they be angry if troubles reelected, only thirty seven percent, a trump voters that they be angry of Biden one, and so I think I interesting up alive- people to feel kind of so so about a president, for why would be a good thing interest near me with your response to that?

I don't know I'm like hearing this, I'm like interesting, because it will say that additionally, I started out nosing. Ok, I'm voting for John louis. You got me, you got my vote. From tonight they were getting that whole story. Where I was like. Okay, I'm ready yeah. I was like posthumous president is in so, but it's interesting, because what I was responding to was that energy you know, I mean that excitement. Obviously, in that person who you see this is europe. Your money where your mouth is, but I think also for someone I felt this very socio on tonight. Ok, ok, drawer might be feeling you that's different because feeling him he's gonna get me to buy stamps and stand in line. And like vote early. It's also been exacerbated by the fact that we are kind of long distance relationship with society. Right now, and I think a lot of us are anxious to were anxious de were angry were a little. tethered on moored. And primary into you know Joe Biden basically cinches the nomination as we head into the cover nineteen, I mean really was I love you know the last place. The last

I say I ate act- was a hotel amounts vegas before the dog s you're a miracle to mornings in are up to mornings, bludgeon dinners, that's my by them to me I have I realise, just from my own point of view, like I realized that I had gone from being critical of all the candidates and being unsure who the best person must represent us to being work all right now, our behind Joe Biden, I'm worried about that. I am just I would worry about any other canada, because this election is so important to me. What this convention has done is my me Joe Biden, strengths. You mean you look like you noticing over the past couple of knights during

non violent section during the section about violence against women, the descriptions, the experiences worked incredibly explicit, far more so than you would normally here and a convention. So you see this mother are talking about the pain, she's experience, because her son had a grievous gunshot wound to the head and and that the recuperation and the lifelong disability that that will cause. You see this boy tonight talking about what it's like to try to overcome a stutter. Like Joe Biden, you have you, have your women tagamet of their experience, being inviolate relationships and then here, the grief that bind family has been through and what all of a sudden it sort of dawned on me. Oh, of course, this convention reflects Joe Biden, someone whose life has been defined by these things, and it it almost becomes a kind of emergent properties that these conventions look like the leader who is sitting atop the ticket in the same way that twenty six, this convention, the republican dimension, was this dour angry of bloody affair. This convent Who had a lot of empathy. I had a lot of heart Josh. I want

ask you I was. I one of those people that was like I find John k, sick annoying aurelia. I don't I don't have to like them to use them. Tonight I felt, like I write with Bloomberg. I think we ve now did the lily we have how will we had case angrily at Wasn T mccain? We had Bloomberg what what do you think well might Bloomberg got the fourth most votes of any kind the date in this primary. More votes combined and all of the candidates who came in behind him and so here you know, look you don't have to like might bloomberg. You can be irritated about his promises. Spend a lot of money that he does not seem to have spent yet in support the relation, but he you know like Bernie sanders or Elizabeth Warren or or other candidates in this race, he had apparently a constituency in the primary

and so I think, just from that perspective dollar bills? Well, but I mean I'm only he got it. You gotta nontrivial number of votes like there were a lot of people who came out who voted for my limburg in this primary. Who are going to be a small but key part of the coalition? That will let Joe Biden if he wins in november, and so I think it candidate who put in their performance in the primary. You would expect to get a speaking slot at the convention, one others, I did want to touch on because to me it was actually an important speech. Was president obama speech on last night. The days seem endless weed. Brok obama give many speeches. I have never seen him make such a plaintive appeal kind of like almost a kind of a beseeching like. Will you please michaelmas begging for people to take what he sang to heart, naomi. What did you think of president obama? I know you know he's always had a tight rope to walk, so I am always like there is more to him that we don't get to see by the nature of his position. You know, then, president and even now, and it felt like that

close. His eyes seemed to like some of that fire. Some of that person that, like that real, like This is not a game, pete ball and I felt that it in a way that I feel like here, and been able to show us kind of up until now, even the rat, you, like, I kept warning him to say more. You know like when buying like first stepped up and which is that, ok you can do something as like you're, his number one black friend. You have to stand by him and have sipo, like you really did that this time, Josh look, I'm coming out of these four days, blown away by how excellent it was I am pumped. I want you to like kind of attack. My enthusiasm attack my confidence some of the things you are worrying about at the end of this convention attacking enthusiasm for Biden as someone who would be good president or your enthusiasm for the idea. These had my attack, my sanguine response to that convention generally. Well, I've been, I too, I think it's appropriate for you to be sanguine. I think Biden goes into this in a strong position I mean look. Donald trump has been an unpopular president, all the way along the air.

People making their analysis above twenty. Sixteen election is the analysis of too much about trumpet, not enough about Hillary Clinton and from and because of the very unique unpopularity that she had, and so I think that the smart Saying that Biden has done here are one of the smart things he has done here is sort of not having too many characteristics and allowing himself to just be not donald trump, and I think that's a good It's especially a good message since the I back his head and see the social movements that we have seen this spring. The president's responsive those has been extremely unpopular. Ah, so I think that the two having has made Biden strategy even more apt than it was previously, but I think basically the broad message: it's very simply that are very wrong in the country right now, and the president is both inapt in malevolent in the way that he handles them and that we president who is normal and does different things. It's a simple. but I think it is a compelling one. I dont think that it's a situation where you're too, in the tank for for thinking that that is a good and appealing message, what a relief

look. We all have to see. What's gonna come at the republican national convention next week and we just wanted to preview for Josh neo, we ve, given a secret list of the people performing we're going to appear. I think I've got a really interesting. Less roger stones nixon tat to get a glitter louis Kay shapiro and the Ben shapiro. Five adults let's descended from a german shepherd that tried to by jean louis on the edmund pet as Britain all of goya beans, Joe camel fellows, gordon partisan, I'm sorry doktor, Jordan peterson Three, the three producers who got fired from oil and gas patriot toilet. They can flesh a whole bucket, a golf balls, the ramp dealer tequila a ventriloquist, too low. A lot of people say, looks like jared kirshner, a cat,

harris re from before Cfcs were banned jared from subway Hugh, who is q, cherry chase, baby, not a barber shop quartet. That's all conservative talk show guys you volunteered to be water bordered in two thousand and four roseanne bar quiney. The hydroxyl clerk when mass and dice clay, the guy those paintings of trump scoring a touchdown. I gotta keep arms, Don't worry, I'm skipping to the end, martin shkreli joy. Carol, oats is foot the barber dukes homophobic parents, evil on gory up a herman, kane hologram boats, a guy at a jeep gladiator yelling at some day, laborers outside a home depot and finally, the keynote the pill, that was used to murder, antonyms Scully, then, but what a line up? of stars, true lot out, every luddites predict

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This was an interesting line, because, let me I mean it's true that the president is being over covered, but it it's. It's almost a weirdly pessimistic to be saying as a candidate right like you know, don't believe in miracles. It is it's it's funny because the line worked, although it it's like, if you read it on paper, it feels like it shouldn't work, I loved it. I loved it whatever he was like dark and negan I said hans, sixty a quarantine, you feel may a guy. He is cutting the crap like we have to work. We have to do with this oh, I doubly, I george, I had a similar reaction. I did I There is another sentence: there seems to be that there is a missing sentence: amateur there will be no miracle, but we, coming right. Something good is coming will mean that the funny thing and an end to the extent on shrub loses this election. He and republicans going to convince themselves forever that it was nothing was fine until the pandemic and he was gonna win. If this completely unforeseen thing, hadn't happened to him. When the chinese hadn't done this and the and but then

think it's also when the president says that we might get a vaccine around november. That's two first approximation correct. We may see one or more vaccines approved by the end of this year, if they're necessarily going to be silver bullet, but it's quite possible. The timing of this is going to be that the interventions are going to be quite effective, starting in the first half of two thousand and twenty one, and it's kind of Joe Biden, look like a genius, even if All this stuff is stuff that he had no particular responsibility for us. I think things will be a lot better next year than this year. Joe Biden we'll have the good fortune to preside over that if he wins, which I think he will, and so I think that it'll be. You know that the miracle such as it is welcome, but but not this We lead the world in confirmed cases, rid the world of deaths, our economy, in tatters, were blocked what tino asian american native american communities bearing the brunt of it. and after all this time the present still does not have a plan obeys up one.

Sort of striking realities of this convention, a really sort of something that was occurring. Again and again is we're making an obvious case right at all the case. It is a sad you know. Somebody pointed out today that Donald trump approval rating la steer, was about you know the economy, is growing their creating jobs they ve, no one's ever heard of the pandemic is approval. Rating is forty one. Forty two percent were here, a year later, societies been brought to its knees. Life has been up, ended and credible horror and suffering pain and I he still living at forty one forty two percent It is a stark part of our politics that we spend all this time, trying to convey really simple, really truly, observations when there are so many republicans themselves? Who would agree with us by can't? Because this is not good for business? one and the remarkable thing to me as certain aspects of what he has done this year has numbers or even worse than his overall approval numbers, but it doesn't

seemed to move his general job approval. You know people will say always, you know, he's not handling the pandemic. Well, he's not handling race relations. Well, it is a problem. still, as you note stay in the low forties, maybe by has gained a pointer to in the in the horse, race, poles, but not a sea change and so on. it is amazing to me how like for three years, not that much happened. I mean easily, there's always things happening, but it was it. Aside from the controversies. The president himself caused it was actually fairly uneventful first, three years of this presidency, and then we have gotten a deluge of news in this last year. really negative events happening. That is gravely mishandling it. It is amazing to me how little that is actually affected his political fortunes and again. I think that there is going to be this idea that Biden only one, because the pandemic, when, in fact, because those poland the worst stable and not good all the way through. I think it's very likely that here one anyway, even if this stuff hadn't happened, lot I understand I understand how hard it is to have any hope right now. And this summer night

you take a moment to speak to those you have lost the most. I have some idea how it feels to lose someone. You love I know that. Ok, stop! You know. I cannot really watch this part. Ok because, but Joe starts to when he glistens. Ok, when those I start glistening, I see that touch a pink. I just want to hold him gloves. I want to hold him closed because I can feel it. I can feel what he's going through. He is connecting as he is saying. I am a man. He says I'm a white man, but I hurt too and that's something we needed to hear. Okay well, we're going to have to. I can't edit the clip in real time. So we're just gonna have to hear some more of it. Okay, I know that deep black hole it opens up in the middle of your chest and you feel like you're being sucked into it. Yes, I now mean cruel an unfair life can be sometimes thank you. But I've learned two things. First your love. One may have less this earth.

I ve never leave your heart, so Always be with you, you always hear them. The second. I found the best way through pain and laws and grief is to find purpose. Ok stop Everyone says this, but it has such remarkable contrast between the the depth of empathy I get from Joe Biden and what you get from the president. Yes and it's weird cause like, I wouldn't ordinary- that wouldn't be too top of my list of qualifications. For somebody to be president, it's certainly a good personal quality, but I think in this moment it really connects with people that he's a human being with feelings. Yeah. Ah, and people would like that right now as compared to this year. In addition to all the substantive ways, the present, as must manage the country just like him being such a dick about it, the whole time, I think it yeah, it's a refreshing contrast. I think that's exactly right is a he's gotta talking to us again. Don't have our audience. This is a brave new convention and think you have to be you. Can that ever let people for

at that the way we're sitting here. You know watching this at home by yourself, you, Seen a person in forty two days: he is working that everybody, regardless of whether they experience a loss or not- and I think just having into that it syllable joshua saying I think it's the compassion thing. You know I'm not a big, add a whole. Like president, you want to have a beer with like honestly I'd. Never I should never be able to have a beer with the president. I shouldn't understand what he's saying ever like I don't get that part, but it does is such a contrast last, you know three years of meanness about this problem. Rising lee moving about it. I am not fan of the kind of president as familiar figure president, who takes on a bunch of kind of or not the royal qualities royal state type qualities not actually monarch, not like the not like them. The king trumpet items it just means whereby some kind of the pompous, income stance and the kind of national consoler that peace it. It has never been important to me in fact, become makes me uncomfortable, because I want the presidency.

be reduced in its reach, I wanted to be seen of his more of a job is to really buggy hard job and has too many responsibilities. We should have more honest conversation about the role itself. That said, for me, the last three and a half years especially in the last six months. Forget as a kind of a server of politics I mean like, as a citizen like for me being told by scientists and experts where the mass don't leave the house, the right thing to do and not having a president say. Thank you, everybody who is not doing what the instagram gazer doing, such as get him. Hey, hey, instagram get some just can not it's not. I shouldn't call you out specifically actually there's no other. has any extra gave five right I did. I just want you to know that I take it back completely. I e all day long kindly I as big alchymy, I you know, I love you insidious, but just check out what instagram gives me through its algorithm? They know I love and syringes

What was I talking about? Oh yeah, a president who has happened. Thank you. Thanks for the work you are doing, it's important non supporting you are part of this thing together, like there was legitimate, little practical value to having those qualities. That's all that was my goddamn point. Got such side tracked by the instagram gaze per usual We have a great purpose as a nation. Open the doors of opportunity, all americans to save our democracy passion and purpose began you and I together one nation under god, unite our love for america, united, not love for each other. Ok, stop! Yes! There! I would never. I don't really care what you do, but again it is that it is the fire. It's the passion it is this, like again he's laid this foundation and he's like okay, like let's like cut the crap stuff, is tough right now, but if we all work

physically showing up to vote as well as everything that comes after that we can get out of this I don't need anyone blowing smokin being like we ve that, where the basque country and everything's fine all the time. It's like you don't know life, you just say as some cramped and I just felt like he was like giving us the real and galvanizing in a way that I feel it I haven't seen him he sees is always felt very low energy to me, and I say, low energy in the way that, like I want- as my president is on top of shit. You know what I'm saying spinning autumn plates boo and I've never seen that until I felt like I don't want to see him spin yeah he was this was fire and it's another example. We're, like the president, said expectations so low leyden, like you go around calling him sleepy joe for months and basically say he's gonna drool all over himself, and this performance was

actually good, but it was it was. It was so much better than that indicated that he it made it even more effective because you have all these people and it's the same line that you had from the Bernie sanders people or during the primary basically about how he'd lost a step and everything and then he comes out and gives a merely good performance. It looks great because of those expectations as absolutely for lovers, or powerful and hate hope is more powerful than fear and lady is more powerful than dark. This is our moment. This is our mission, but history be able to say at the end of this chapter, american doctors began here tonight. As love and hope and light join in the battle for the soul. The nation, and this is a battle we will win and we'll do it together. I promise you were sworn city he promised. I am also surprised, MR our motion, I've been throughout this week, just how I can be sentimental. Almost

a mental gay. I am alcohol cry at surprisingly, the ends and unexpected moments really midway through a movie sometimes. But I was surprised over the course of this week, realising that, like, oh, I- and this is a real collective experience for a lot of people is our first big national political event that actually recognizes that we're in a state of crisis. That's honest about that deals with the pain then I'll people process it josh final thoughts in the convention. What surprised you I was surprised that it worked as well as it did in this format in and not all of it worked well, there were parts of it. If you actually tried to watch it gavel to gavel. Where was you know like tat double zoom, audio and things that all right, it would feel low energy in a regular convention that are sapped of that audience, but I thought there was a risk that it would have like this kind of cable access feel and that it would be sad and not not just from the content, but because of the the production quality for sure, and I thought that it did a good job of adapting to the circumstances and and actually put forward a compelling case in a very difficult format

yummy any final thoughts. Anything surprise you! Well! You know what honey I was very nervous when Andrew Yang opened. I said I need a hot opener gimme fire, but then they really came back. They bounced back for me I took you know, I am a kind of feeling papa Joe now I will say Joe need your granddaughter talking about ice cream. I get a you're, a family me the whole. I screamed back and forth had to go. We didn't need that we could have ended on time. We could have ended on time hooker but I like, but, but I felt it, I felt it in my bones. I kind of like the ice cream thing I mean it's basically them. It is just another way of emphasising the Joe Biden is a normal personnel like Excise room I like ice cream, I'm like Joe, I just like. I did like all these family videos of like how how jill was introduced to the boy Is that how seriously they took it in the next, you're gonna- have avoided trump telling the story of like we went,

skiing ones that I got to the bottom of the hill too fast. So he divorced me yeah I like and like Eric trump being like I'll, never forget when dad introduced us to Melania. He said if she signs she's going to be your mother, like oh gross, josh barrow naomi, a paragon. Thank you. So much for being here. Thank you. Thank you friend. We come back Emily heller returns to play a game and dumb look. It seems hard to imagine. A certain segment doesn't get forced on me. That's all set Also don't go anywhere, there's more of love it or leave it coming up, love it or leave it has brought. You buy, comedy central. The daily show it trevor Noah this election. He's in there's only one source for campaign coverage. That's funny enough to make you peer self laughter, all informative I have to make you pee yourself out of fear, so those the two ways you can t yourself:

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into the daily show with trevor. Now they cover the election. You cover your face new episode ignites at eleven ten central on comedy central. Our back on land the dance he went, live inside a powerpoint presentation where the role of cookie was performed by evil angora. Now emily, I think even did an incredible job genuinely I will die in this hill. I was sceptical about having kind of hollywood celebrities kind of leading the convention. But then, when you actually see it in practice, really need a person with a real tv presence in charisma, and I thought she did a finance job of kind of being after ceremonies, I thought that Tracy else ross also did a phenomenal job, and I was really glad that we had like true kind of people that no tv and our good on tv to kind of. Do, though, that difficult task of like managing the various emotional highs and lows and moving through the process, I will defend them from the market. Ruby user, the world too

dying breath emily. But this is not the first time either has taken on a tough role in an over the top drama, that in lesser hands would have been a mess and, of course, we're talking about desperate housewives. In fact, Emily. We don't think you'll be able to tell the difference between evil, inglorious performances. Gabby in desperate housewives and her role. M c in the democratic national convention in again we're calling desperate houses I think I watched two seasons of desperate housewives and I'm really glad that that was not in vain. yours outwards, I will say a quote from evil on and Emily. You ought to tell us if she said it during the Dnc or ask abby on desperate housewives. Are you ready, I'm as ready as I will ever be not going to focus on. What's wrong, we're going to talk about how to make it right, the indian,

the correct we understand that things are top right now. Economically Dnc has everyone. I'm desperate housewives was rich. At the time correct I have the constitution and it does not protect ugly people. There has to be desperate, has eyes You got it. We are about more than one party, oh, my god that could easily be either one of them. I think that that was the dmz. We are not negotiating my uterus. Desperate has I've got since we caught bin laden, you can stroll on the plane anytime. You want desperate housewives, correct I think, there's nothing more difficult for us as moms and to see our children suffer. Dnc threat I've been homes going, my daughter and it's been a living hell. Does as I see it, correct if it comes up in school, Paul revere was never president desperate outside correct this? Isn't it

me. This is about our great nation, Dnc that was your first incorrect, desperate housewives. Here's the full quote this isn't about me. This is about our great nation and I have no intention of sexually satisfying a man who is going to stand up for and help spread the ideals and values of the united states of america. Who is she sexual rejecting in that quote. I dunno you're the fan that I've ever seen does rival a guy. I never was. I dunno you've never seen desperate housewives John. What are you doing? Didn't miss it. I missed it, don't watch certain things and not others. That's life! That's life in the content game. I I don't know how that series ended, but it started so strong and I think he'd be really into it. It's soapy and it's fun and if you've ever been on the universal studios, or you ve seen where they live. I have this is our chance to unite across amerika Dnc. The scary thought it I'm sure a lot of farmers feel the same way. Thousands Dnc wrecked.

Really wanna, join you and help with that diversity. Thing desperate housewife, wow, wow, wow yeah. It was either. right after michelle obama speech or when she saw the teenage gardner with his shirt off on desperate housewives. Surely Here was a dance it. Nobody cares about virginity in this country. It went out of style the fifties and trust me honey. It ain't making a comeback as because I'm sure by happiness. That's just a lie. We tell poor people to keep them from rioting, desperate housewife, That's why I love america so much anything is possible, especially for pretty girls who aren't afraid to kiss a few ugly guy, a stiff browser you gotta, yeah whatever, romance what a move one wrong! One wrong Emily heller: you ve won the game gas. We come back, we and by sen brian shots shots shots.

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obama and our vice presidential nominee calmly Harris. I guess I wanted to start from of stepping back to europe. What is the goal of the democratic national convention? Why do we do this with social distancing without it. What is the goal of this, and what are you hoping people watching take from it? I unity I mean that is the number one goal and any convention I used to be a party chair state of way which surprisingly difficult, because it's just democratic democrat violence, and so we have the kind of work to unite all the tribes of the democratic party and I think, feeling we haven't, even those in sixteen has spired, as we were to be dull trombone as thoroughly as we were about our candidate? We just knew where the family hadn't worked out its own stuff. What I really like about this convention is that Very little of that kind of drama. You get

quibble with production value, or you could say so and so should have more time and wise that guy onto a fine The main thing is that, as we speak, to communicate with those voters were not like us, which is to say people who are living their lives and only now beginning to engage in the question. in front of them by the presidency, They want to know that party. That is, posing to oust the president knows what they want to do and why and spills, clean and good on that level. If you get here couple of additional marks like generate enthusiasm and how a viral moments and raised tens of millions of dollars. That's observe job one is do not come stumbling out of it- fighting with yourselves in terms of what we are actually trying to do to reach those people who may be tuning and for the first time in one of these we about on parts in america is whether it's worth it to spend time building the case against trump. When you know we ve been talking about donald,

Non stop for years. Orbit. Still needed right if it is still necessary to be part of the case that we're making. I think tonight we saw in brok obama speech a really serve stunning critique. he hasn't in. I think the media forgets that he campaign to twenty eighteen, but but in its serious as there was incredible amount of emotion to his voice. Yet at the same time I do think a lot of this dimension is about reaching the the who know trap is bad and are seeing whether or not their willing to go along with Joe Biden alternative. How are you thinking about that that the balance between the past a case in the negative case yeah. I guess I think, like if you're running for city, council or something or frankly you know I read for lieutenant governor the girl. There is like they need to know your name and they needed only one or two good things about you. But the presidency is a different question: most. Voters are capable of holding multiple thoughts in their own brain, and so I think it's a little bit of a false choice to should we make the case against strong or

the case for Joe Biden, copmanhurst. We really gotta do both. We don't want us continue to say the same thing to the same people. And so those arguments that are most attractive to me. in terms of being terrified about donald trump, I'm getting another four years made be the ones to persuade certain voters. That's him over to her side and they may be more mundane stuff, like your males, not getting deliver right or their literally trying to take away your health care during a pandemic, and so it may not be the stuff where we see he's violating their monuments clause he's destroying american institutions here, to be in direct consultation and coordination still with agents of the russian government. That's not moving a lot of additional votes, but there are, plenty of people who see his presidency and are open the persuasion about. Why he's so bad? And I know the polls there are certain like www motivated to our strong. put in Biden wouldn't

question. I may, of course, be due to our trump and, of course, anger is one of them. best political emotions out there outrage is absolutely the appropriate way to feel. Question is whether you turn it in the political action. So you know to your point about appealing while that may not approach to these issues is the same way as those of us who pay attention. Incredibly closely. All the time there's been this debate about the role republicans have played at the convention. How do you feel- about that, because there is this sort of dueling need to appeal to moderate and also to appeal to base voters young voters who maybe don't feel like the democratic parties. Progressive enough fight, hard enough I'm with you, I think, we're in the boat getting business right now we got sixty is early days to get as many boats as we can and, of course, pal or john case it or whoever mega whitman. If they want to come out and say ruby party coalition, that's great now, that's it,

for question from say: we'd, like you to help us governed in a sort of power sharing arrangement. That's enough left to be there to be fair to these rock rim. Republicans they're, not exe. Acting now they made bellied once we end up doing a bunch of progressive things upon winning knock on what what, You have them on stage reaching out to you know sliver of voters that might be open to someone I called out. I think its answer, the good and evil. be different? If we were only doing now, I think the things that binding has gotten not of not enough credit for coalition building He is a senator senator and he knows that what you do if you want to pass a bill, is you gonna, get all the different stakeholders and you get working groups and you like hammered out was boring stuff right, except that we the most ambitious climate plan ever the presidential candidate.

and we have covered the waterfront ideologically so that the sunrise movement moves stopped? Elsie was on board I'm thrilled joan warehouses thrilled with our climate plan that actually stand a chance of both mobilizing voters and being, and I did and that's because did the work of coalition building, so you didn't do that coalition, building to kind of stick together. Everyone from Bernie to you know Doug jones, I'm gonna make more worrisome that used to Colin powell on stage, but she did all the work, and that's why you know we have a movement here and love mukamba said, which is this is really not about german carla. This really is a movement buddy of mine always says a movement is, faith strangers. That's what it feels like this feels like hey this europe I'm a climate guy. I didn't come to politics, caring about black lives matter now

all in for black lives matter and now people who care about civil justice and racial justice. Only I get it climate is a racial in that They mean by movement building so that the movement is strong enough to bully Joe in canada and all of the senate candidates and all the down ballot people, but to actually get all this stuff done is what I think excites at the base, the most one of them calmly said in his speech that that red eyed, I felt the same way that I thought, especially though the closing of the speech was incredibly moving and uplifting. It was, I think, a very heavy night on the whole and present obama speech was incorrect. Lee searing and then calmly spoke. I think in such a hopeful way she doctor we'll talk not about how he felt, but about what we did the case that Barack Obama. May that Bernie made that Michel made that complement the these were incredibly clear code, and in many ways a brazen obvious cases right. We are not in Milwaukee I beating cheese curs right now, maybe

Maybe I could have gone you to come and meet me for cheese. Curs covers as possible in Milwaukee bore stuck at home. There's no crowd! You know who you are in the senate- and one thing that has been striking to me- is one of those who are most depleting aspects of these past few years. Is you know we have? This A lot of your republican colleagues agree behind the scenes right. A lot of this is kind of a dance of people, pretending to disagree with the critique that brought obama made tonight of donald trump unfitness. Anyway, that's discouraging it is discouraging to have make this argument when so many people are pretending not to agree with that. How do you reckon with that? How do you grapple with that, especially we had to the home stretch. His kind of endless like this sort of the bludgeoning this political argument that is so clear so obvious, as as the pandemics unfolded, I have turn my attention totally away from my centre. Colleagues, now, if there's a tiles and negotiate a code, relief. Bill, obviously will engage as appropriate, because people are desperate but janet.

Speaking the idea that he was some number of republicans are gonna, come in and save the republic in some sort of bipartisan coalition. Its it's been destroyed by the evidence of the last three and a half years, and so I just think we have to focus on those. people who didn't turn out last time. We voted for the green party last time, most importantly, those people whose lives have been made worse by donald trump but you don't have to get to to hire went out to hear and become a constitutional scholar to say, he's screwing up the big things right there. Things are the pandemic and economy and health care, and the environment. The conduct of a president were set the tone for the whole country. He screwing up all of the things that matter on on the most basic level, presidency, and so you don't even have to get into an argument about.

Some of the other stuff that we deeply care about, like the supreme court and everything else. But if we're going to win over certain parts of maricopa county, if we're going to win over florida everyone in this room and west north carolina, then I don't think we need to say very much more than that. Stop. This president was how he would manage the pandemic from a humanitarian standpoint, from a health care standpoint that from an economic standpoint and the guy's not up to the job, and not only that, but you literally couldn't wake up every morning, come up with a worse plan and have someone asked me, like john of you, saturday mornings it? How can the president's through this up maximally today and sent it over and they did it? It wouldn't be any worse than what their currently doing. So, what a test thought I hope I don't. I just hope I wouldn't be creative enough to come up with what they ve done. Worse yeah, but it's the older. The main thing is to keep the main thing, the main thing now I think we have to stay united and base

We prosecute the case against if the president, on the main thing that is happening to all of us, which is he's failing and keeping us safe. Failing in allowing us to have some semblance of an operational economy or society do, you think, will get, only through tat help the post office save the post office, make sure that the joy kanda pull any more are sorting machines and you know, sell the parts YA Do you think we will be able to provide resources and the post office, but I understand that the post office does not need more money in order to deliver the mail on time in the next ninety days right they are using these facts. Budget numbers because, as you know, there's a statute that requires that the post office and only the post office pre pay current pension benefits for the next thirty five years with cash It's no agency has to do and which no private sector company has to do so.

they make it look like a dog financially and then they make it like? Are you gonna get them twenty five billion, so they can break even it, don't you The break in their public service like the deal tea or the deal in or the deity, and so always to do is blocked the joy from dismantling and removing a possibility direction. We made some progress this week, but I think these next few hearings, tell us a lot about whether their full assurance, yet why I guess it's more about. Well, you know the money as a means of setting guard rails and making sure that it's that are not used. The financial liability of the post office to cut hours to mail trucks leave empty, etc, this. I think we will eventually when on this question, though, just yes, money is important, but we actually statutory guard rails would say you may not remove sorting machines gave me this makes sense right and they have always done it. This way that day, prioritized the balance right

Now just seems like common sense and the reason that that not a matter of statutory law is it never occurred to a postmaster general. Do not prioritized delivering balance on time, and now the point. I made a memo. The descent of forty six states is like a. We can't make any guarantees here and it's like wrong. Four hundred years, you ve been able to guarantee delivery right. So is preposterous and I do think this is a situation where sure the actions of congress are important, but the noise made out there the public is really want to joy, responded to and the board of governors of the postal service doubts and hate to join. What are you really doing here, but I would put it past them to be lying. So we need to find out whether or not there to follow through on backing off

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