Biden signs up a storm. A Republican congresswoman believes forest fires are started by Jewish space lasers. And GameStop finally fulfills its destiny in the war between reddit and hedge funds - with a LOT of Tubmans at stake. Alice Wetterlund joins to break down the week's news. Brian Beutler looks at the debate over how to pass relief through Congress. And Yoni Lotan takes on his greatest role yet as... the filibuster.
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comedian, an actress and she has a new show called resident alien which premier this week on size. I please welcome back returning champion Alice wearily
the disease high John thanks. So much for having me, I am happy to be here. How are you you know? Normally you do something to not just been
nor the top, and I was just sort of sort of like what are you talking about.
Right. Why it had to do something I had to be audio dogs. You never know
Sorry to disappoint you, John just, but even when you did just you'd laughed so silent.
And they just filling the comedian coming on your show. It's always frustrated makes them like
Listen, I don't know he's he's losing it, but he is so polite.
Moves away from the make when he laughed laying off. First of all, the might pick it up is a great microphone.
and in the end in the pod gas people now that I'm laugh then on moving off the mike, as I can contain myself by the way how us, in the comments there laugh into our, were all happen to the work of a third faded to fear here.
How are you let's do it? What are we?
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the? U s had only administer twenty one million of the forger million doses disordered. This is great
now it's twenty one million out of six hundred million as exciting.
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they have to take out a whiteboard like eighty porter. You know you ve got him, but we do
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should be telling at you
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but the numerator. Oh good remains energy. Now, among the later now the police,
just got up by two percent of poverty. There is a clip of very
the today show in like one eighty, something like early eighties,
its phil donoghue, a jane polly, threatens not eu and its great because it's practically like an alien has landed because there, because daddy is like
Get this he's socialist and
I went up to this beautiful country of months, beautiful country up their beautiful land
But then, when they went to Bernie the reason I bring us up for
halfway through why I brought it up now and remembering yeah you now remembering. I do think that he has come with
age to more and more embody the brooklyn jewishness of his voice,
it's almost like as your body ages, those like
What it made me realize is, like maybe my great grandmother didn't, have a stake in an accent when she was younger that it's like something about
older. As a jewish person, you slowly get more
this year- and this happens to your body. It like health. Advising your phone is not a lot of malaria, baldwin situation, the accent was there, but it just deeper its thicker
the percentage of how you say, hi how you say resume
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on thirty five percent over the past three weeks, the most sharpest sustained decline throughout the entire outbreak. It feels good that we can finally stop faking. The numbers to beat trump truly was exhausting. When we all know this thing is just the common flu we almost got caught. We went to puerto vallarta,
where do I urge the jig without being of malaria following your pronunciation of persia out her for it
virus, her we're losing arouse la puerto viruses. It's delicious
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of the rich and corrupt infected trump said people should inject
been bleach at the fact that up to now
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for the company game, stop soared over two hundred percent, after ready user decided to pump money into the company to punish hedge funds. That bet money that the company would fail.
lots of folks made a lot of money, but when they tried to sell the stock back to game stop, there are only offered fifteen dollars of store credit
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who's to whose hated it as far as beds
or unity was gonna come from. I don't think anybody thought it would be edged. Lord financed sub read it, but that's what would bring them
other now, o c tweeted that what we have
with robin hood, was unacceptable. Then ted crews, tweeted fully agree and elsie treated back, and this is real. I
happy to work with her publicans on this issue, where there is common ground, but you almost had me murdered three weeks ago, so you can sit this one out happy to work with almost any one g o p that aren't trying to get me killed in the meantime. If you want to help, you can resign,
so that's it know tat from a oh just exactly so hours. It feels to me, as though ted crews has not seen any prestige tv, because
you can't foment an insurrection that threatens the lives of other cast members and then immediately tried to create an unlikely pairing. You have to let that simmer for at least
in order to show that a visa chosen show some growth as a character and then create
situation in which, as he has no choice but to work but ted crews and then for a few minutes halfway through the episode, elsie wonders if ted cruises changed and then at some point it becomes clear that he is not
aged. He is still the same, repellent schmuck. He always was and an that's
and at the bottom up, and I cannot deny that we will work
we ve seen we ve seen the thousands who do not write it herself. You did also, if you want, if you wanna
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it's already get out Joe man.
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have to be well, for you know. I mean I can't who cares
in California. Gavin using cancel this day homeward over the state, despite the fact that many high seas are still a capacity for
criticism about mixed messages and capricious decisionmaking kim said to John junior
listen for a while and then was like. Can we just stop talking about it? For five minutes?
because doesn't sound like your over him
How I don't like I met your constantly bring him up
should no doubt that while I quoted dungeon,
and came at normal volume. You should know that in reality they
shouting at each other at the top of their
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remained just scream, that's a joke! You
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on junior is sitting for a portrait and looking at different graphic designs for his various political opportunities, just licking his gums who yeah that's a painting,
meanwhile binds one point: nine trillion dollar covert relief plan is in the works, hoping to bring relief to many no less there
that's it. I'm gonna happen lab at no alice, I'm so sorry, but the philip morris and I have had and anything could be. This is the filibuster and I'm so sorry, but it seems that, based on recent news, the filibuster guys that now as I that belarus as their I'll catch you Chris,
in cinema said that a good step you right here! You see she summoned me my tapping her knee high boots three times
hey filibuster, look I get that due to the fact that several Democrats continued to
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I have been around since the eighty hundreds.
and I was in created by the founding fathers. Tat- protects the rights of the majority of irony. Ok, now everyone knew that was a joke
was created by mistake. Like
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but this legally, oh, my god, really never hurting something.
philip?
can't be felt by MR buster. If I make, what are you
you. What do you get off on interrupting? Why do you want to stop things for moving forward all the time,
stan.
I'm a way of life.
I'm a way of life of filibustering is not just in the senate. It's everywhere.
they. Then we learn when your dad wants to talk about the neighbors long. Instead of his emotions that philip
staring that's filibustering. That's what the ride!
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the world is a terrible plays. I mean races. Use me to stop seller rags
oh yeah did you know that the Senate leaders have been trying to get rid of me says that
it is for, but their attempts keep their attempts, keep getting fella pasta,
and fell by throwing available there. You know, what's funny you I I I I didn't know what it was gonna be like to me. You, MR filibuster, I'm amazed by the conflicting tat those the self hate that brought to this- that that's the unexpected twist of this character to me of understanding, which are really like. Oh there's, good inside every wide eyed,
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we're not going to talk about dog of gay
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they do it. No one can kill me baby, not shermer
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as hard. I don't I we got in here. That's got in here. That's the problem! Really sorry he was just ready will destroy key moving forward. I dream of adverts in another
I wrote a joke about the filibuster if you what's your network, so like the fifth
filibuster. Maybe it was made by example, which is being used as a racist tool to stop set of rights for us,
It is a racist thing that exist and everybody knows it and they use it.
but but every time they defend, it is always lag. Oh, it's to keep balance.
In the senate, it's it's it's a tool for to increase debate
and it's like everybody knows- that's not true. It's like the same as the confederate flag,
goods about our heritage. It's not it's like that's a good
catch, a predator and the guy comes out needs like I was just downloading kiddie porn to check my wifi speed through the cats are the bag. Ok, that's what it's like hire me. That's the!
you know where we're going down. We got there not so we went yes.
dominion. Voting systems is suing rudy giuliani for one point: three billion dollars for his role. In spreading basis, conspiracy theories that the company help Joe Biden steal the election.
Going to dominions lawsy rigidly honey, not only knowingly peddled falsehoods about the election. He also
in those lives by hawking gold coins, supplements and cigars on his podcast. Here's. What I do understand, ok
How did we be giuliani? Not do a better job of cashing in on being america's mayor, so we need to do the shit, like speaking gigs board seeds, what up
I thought we lived in an oligarchy- I thought that everybody cashed in on their service. The guy, was on the cover a time magazine. He was, he got to be america's mayor. He was like he who is
as of now they made a movie about his life. How did he not keep any these movie? It doesn't go to fancy salons. We know that because his head leaks, it didn't go to high and prostitutes because he tried to take off his pants forebore at so what year, we'd he's had a couple divorces
donna hanover, he divorce, donna hanover? While he was the mayor, I remember that, because he- and now
state at a press conference, but didn't
her beforehand, so she
to call a press conference and say I just heard- and there
we sat so bad
to build a new york history, for anybody who is about my age and remember is that as a kid because it was while
and donna hanover looked genuinely shocked and saddened deeply authentic way, in a way that I couldn't hand
I sighed. The point is,
How much money the Jews Nathan gets right? What happened to the money rudy
Why are you running rightly really giuliani? He is
basing himself in a way that, like it
not just like somebody who wants more it, somebody who is afraid of having nothing. It's like he's, not running like he's.
go somewhere his he's hustling like he's being chased you don't I mean why he could have gone down so differently and your right, while power corrupts right and the left party, famously so
Look it's our minds a classic example of our. I mean everybody bring that up YAP perfect example. It's crazy
it's like he really overshot by so much it's like. We, everybody expects old bridge people to get more conservative as they get older, but not crazy. It just doesn't make not cocking go
the coins level leg, just don't have all the mario villain. He should just be richer. Maybe it's like power corrupts
financially when combined with incest, less pithy, true, less pithy, but sometimes through this complicated yeah. It's this issue does not
yeah. On sunday, portland mayor tom, wheeler, pepper, sprayed damascus man who accosted him on the street with a video camera,
everyone away from proper training,
yeah
that boy did very chill. Is ongoing?
say about that shockingly gel anyway, after this year, peppers,
someone we called a portland handshake, our
oh god, imagine the beast folk cocktails.
in portland, is gonna find a way to put pepper spray and drink if they already have. It must have already happened for the listener to frighten. I love thing, nothing about think about how to make it work. Given old report
in representative marjorie taylor green reportedly liked
but posted advocated the killing of prominent democrats and twenty eighteen and twenty nineteen, and she supported it
that's cool shootings are false flags, meaning that they are fixed to allow the government to take away guns and videos
circulating of her harassing parkland victims, while they lobbied congress. How did republicans respond?
by putting her on the education committee. Wild.
Nancy policy- not mincing word, said this. Where unconcerned about is the republican leadership in the house of representatives? What could they be thanking or think
too generous a word for what they might be doing.
look, I just like you and Nancy policy calls
mccarthy. Still she's got locked, unloaded nancy policy
she's in spain for grandma. Imagine nancy policy being your mother in law, tough, you don't it!
What I do want to see that bit
put marjorie taylor green on the education committee, mrs the Republicans lake there like will actually likes? Kids?
she's often take an interest in telling me to get around
she's, really allocating these kids about their experience, having been shot which they weren't, because it was the deep felt so sick makes total sense. Man that woman thought so much. Obviously, she sucks because over politics, which I strongly disagree with person, I just have a village different views, different views site if we advocate views, there's this sort of like cocky smirk, that she has
kind of arrogance of like you're, trying to tell me a laser beam from space, didn't cause the campfire. Oh my god
You're going to try to convince me that it like one, the
Leah podcast has trumps of borders on and there like Joe binds, not the president,
if not how I roll and you like you
use this two thousand forest slang because it isn't for you.
and when you use it, you make my blood boil and not like you on the lips too hard. This censored mask. Are you kid? It's actually is
there's a green fell as a gift from the gods to like
Oh shit! Now madam acceleration is but like this woman is such a clown. Oh, my god. I was willing to it,
You know Josh holly is supposed to be like sophisticated, but like
Josh holly writing our beds about being censored is exactly the same thing as her wearing a mass that says censored, while speaking into a microphone it's on
a vision. What's what
We were you, we see it. If you can read it
can read this mask. It's not true. It they're trying to change the meaning of the word centred, I mean
Margaret Hale, a green it lake. Sarah Palin was like hold my dear sir parents as emerged at a green. I call my beer and enlarge our green is like I'll drink this, but a dude emigrate. Some also anti semitic attacks,
big part of my thing, that is not getting of coverage. I, for my part, am I think I am artillery green. I've also super anti semitic and it's not getting covetous problem. I think not
about the bali other wacky shed going on. But it's a huge part of my entire there's pardon. My personality is going to my main thing
people invite me over for it.
that you were in character pages just for people that she was still in character. Bright Alice was Alice was I disagree with
you're telling me you don't like or politics outspokenly aspect Gonzalez now the real me.
in better news. For the second week in a row, the bite administration issued a number of executive orders, traverse trump our policies and tackle the various overlapping crises facing the country. There have been so many orders charge keep tracks. We wanted a quiz, you Alice and see. If you could tell us what's a real Biden accomplishment from the last two weeks in which is a fake one, are you ready to have already adding a ticking sound emotion,
president binds I'd an executive order rejoining the pair
agreement on climate change very true
president bind signs of executive order rejoining the iran's nuclear deal deep, shake your head, that
now I am. President Biden issued a proclamation ending the ban on: u s: entry from majority muslim countries. Oh that's real biden, stuff right there
that programme bind signed in executive order requiring mask wearing on federal property at sir true
president Biden release new regulatory guidelines that will raise the legal, smoking, asia. Twenty five, I call malarkey
right conflict, Joe Biden,
official proclamation that defines the necessary insufficient characteristics of delaware, style pizza
make it an instinct and he didn't think it in saying it in delaware, stuff
pizza? What am I mad? It exists alleged paragraph president
cancel the keystone exile pipeline very true
president vines and an executive order that will permit? U s p s, to provide certain banking services, such as personal checking accounts? Did he pay say? Yes, you did
make my day I'll make my day job love it. I know
how I really wanted that one's sneak. It
Allah sneak in the pile there was a bit. There was a doctor's uzbek call like the king on still, sir, the stilts still
king and his job as assigning things obey oh yeah, and then he got kind of sad? Could someone took a stilts into its findings and in the birds shoot at the bark, because the flood, I think the idea of light major sneaking in an executive order, lake exec order order more. Let food in dry made major love. Major her
executive board major president by nor that america stop funding the construction of the border while, oh, yes, perhaps not lucky, there
president by strengthening, reaffirm the darker programme. Yes,
president binational proclamation rejoining the adaptations did really
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president buying pardoners dog major for shooting into the resolute death
come on
applause,
if not crime, yet that was erics voice.
the way that was there. Not he didn't do that. Could there still analyzing the shit to make sure it's actually majors and not done junior.
President Biden mandated mask wearing on all interstate public transit, including airlines. Yes positive
Reverse the trans military that, yes, the president,
nor do the attorney general to not renew any federal contracts we have with private prisons,
No did he do you owe a hawk jets
who's gonna party tonight. Easily stuff of some reason are shocking,
for some reason I manage migratory, oh yeah
I thank those mega cheese plate, but it's just cut up pieces of like whatever, like slice, pepper jack, to be cube size
and I'll grab any loose mixed knots put on the plate and then like honey and I'll, be like
I am, and then whoever is in the house with you. You know you come up
maybe they're. Just in mining around business, you company go tonight's pepper jack is coming with a and then you describe it,
ebay and make good on this
comes from the tiller muck region of spain aggravated it's a mountainous region,
of spain- was gone, probably florida
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and finally, president by saying that executive order banning novelty, hats that look like they make amerika great again have but actually says something like make em
science again, oh yeah, he didn't like that
Great idea, good pits- and we didn't even
most of them, which include funding the house, the homeless population, antidiscrimination reaffirming tribal sovereignty, a re evaluation of housing policy, an increase in unemployment, insurance veterans, debt relief and lots more
the covert responses wild, how much he's gotten done so quickly and think of what we could get done with the help of it.
credit congress not again fail by tat, makes me feel my husband makes my girl, you are you, like the guy in her and the lady in her report, simultaneously stopping legislation right now, but you're. Also in our chat, taketh thought you had something. No busting is the movie her sitting through the movie her that's what I didn t. I will never get back that filibustered. Do I really why exactly I really want to make? Will a buzz thing makes me feel good. That's like a catch rates.
That's my eyes on its eyes
That's your eyes themselves. Everybody saying at filibustering makes me feel good.
I say: that's how I raul HE emma to filibuster, not
even now that I'm goin dad's grouse its whatever them music?
bugger, says the guys, and so on that Bulgaria's filibuster phil.
One thing I don't understand is for a long time in our history. Actually, you weren't around that. Often you pretty rare and then all of a sudden hundred,
of times your popping up all the time like what does it feel like to become
although some something that's a historically quite rare, to someone, that's around all the time, yeah now advise them. I lugging around people, I love being around people, love tighter megabyzus yeah. I love
telling them how I think about breaking bad and now they loved hounding of value? Now I just love, I love the scenes that are in the sex scenes in bridger ten you now I just love waste
people's time so nice to be relevant, because you know why I,
yeah when you go to watch or get a recipe online you're the fourteen paragraphs about
persons, children here and get to the recipe thing. Now, your guy, that's right. What are some other? What does a mother
ex about you, MR filibuster. Ah well did you know that, because the budget is excluded only takes fifty one votes to cut taxes for billionaires are cut social security, but you
sixty votes to raise the minimum wage or protect the right to vote? Had you not identify other kings didn't have to get rid of me to pass their agenda
specific fact from you. I got plenty. I got plenty
well I'll, be there really? What else is new these villain of these rules
my mouth, get it, I'm checking what else? What else why our waters summer? What are some comedic facts about you? Sometimes I felt
bills just feel something I'm worried about
Are you lonely, I'm sorry,
lonely. It's always the loudest people who are the lonely ass. I found that really is out. Is that is, at your experience, tears
a clown,
the fears of our well filibuster. I just want you to know something all right. Your time of riding high is almost at an end, because we're gonna get john tester really interesting. Since we're gonna get again Joe mansion, where it again and again we're going to send you pack it now you're right. We were
for you to hire MR buster
pick out a plot on moral ago now now, whenever in me, you'll know me, hey, guess what we want to come back an interview with Brian gonna sing,
I'll, do it with rage get out in your bill of us you get out of here, get out about them if you dont like them.
I really like. How can you talk to him and asking questions quite leg? Does that make
our borrows thing. So whenever I am completely
this to me. I was well so good to see you but a delight. Thank you so much for having me employees
I so sorry that the filibuster kept interrupting. Well, really, really sad that that that that that person can just go and disrupt things
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right. Now. I really urge everybody a check it out. It's a show about the conversations democrats are having about the best way to use the power. We have one that we face.
so hard to win, and I want to start. I want to talk about by neurons
congress. Let's start with Biden, we are recording this after two weeks of a
fast. Moving series of executive order is meant to undo some of the worst damage of the trump administration Biden came out with a one point.
Trillion dollar rescue package at included, raising the minimum wage fourteen hundred dollars to get the checks at the two thousand dollars. Unemployment benefits
three hundred fifty billion dollars for state in local aid. Something Democrats have said we needed for a long time. How do you feel about how
abiden Biden. Abide ministration has come out of the gate. I think that where Biden can act alone, everything's going very well, I mean- and it's not really surprising,
because his team is filled with people who have very.
Recent experience running the government and as an end, what they devote their lives to. So
if we're lucky in a sense for many reasons. I guess that trumped and get an extra for years, but democrats, including
The people in the bite administration were only out of government for four years
you can. I think you can kind of sea that the muscle memory is still there they didn't lose.
Time because they knew what they were doing and then they also have the added benefit. The trump was fairly
lazy president and did a lot of things unilaterally, which made them fairly easy to end on the relief france. There has been this debate going this we basically what is the most likely and quickest way to get as much relief and help to as much people and places it need. There are. Basically, I think you know three paths,
one is budget reconciliation which would be a budget bill. That only requires fifty one votes, but is a process that
complications. There is
regular order, where you would require sixty votes,
and you ve got to get ten republicans to go along and then there's
combo approach, which has been floated a lot today, as were according this, which basically says
ok, you wanna get one point: nine trillion dollars of of relief out into the world senate republic ends. You can maybe get
ten, who would go along with at most half of that, probably less, but you could do that quickly with them. Get that money out the door with them show that you are open to bipartisan compromise and then pass the rest through budget reconciliation. What do you think about the three different approaches? So
the way I sort of would think about it. If I were Biden or chuck humor and I think the way both of them duty-
about it and they ve been saying this very publicly is that they want the need in the country and
I think also their political need to improve people's economic fortunes and get the public health crisis under control to determine the process and so ten days in the fact that there still enjoy
in by partisan negotiations that we think are very likely to fail is now
necessarily an omen of things to come, that everything is gonna, get bogged down in bad faith negotiations with Republicans who just want to drag things out and shrink things congress
nine hundred billion dollar bill gesture on christmas time and vaccines are just getting distributed out into the state
there's, maybe a little bit of window to try your hand at sunday at least make a good faith attempt to get republican buying.
These plans, but at some point that's gonna run
And you need to make sure that not only do you have enough vaccine to get in people's arm but you're the infrastructure in place.
Delivered in a way that isn't completely chaotic or just unpleasant for people to do it so that it discourages them from getting vaccinated and makes them think that you know the gun,
under Biden is failing. You dont want to pass too little aid so that the economy doesn't recover quickly,
coming, we get the virus under control, one of the provision,
in binds bill, which I think is great, is not automatic stabilizers. It's meant to increase the amount of unemployment insurance that flows out to people automatic
We, when the economy is in tough shape and then to scale that back down
Only when the economy is healthy so that bind doesn't have to keep going back to congress to get more bills pass to get more eight out of me,
I think, if you add that all up it shows that they understand that what the country needs is really what's gonna ultimate.
drive the strategy that they adopt the way
I'm at thursday and said that that they're not interest.
splitting up his relief bill. I think that's good.
Mostly as a sign that day, are saying they are not gonna. Let this get bogged down in Senate process the wool
cause things to be delayed and to be shrunk in a way that is helpful in theory. If you could do it,
way. You know pass a minimum wage increase or something like that threat.
order and then pass some other things, reconciliation, it all up the same
In the final analysis, as long as the provisions are good, but the provisions have to be good in the process can be used to dilute them. The white house,
ass? To say they only want to do. One package has if they say they're going to do to packages, you immediately lower
the amount that you could possibly get out of the republicans
Can you say we're gonna, say:
is in half oversight
Your negotiating republicans over half of you say this is the bill. Is our only hope you get that
up and in whatever you put the
conciliation, you don't call it the other half of this thing, but it is the other
for this thing? Is there any? I mean I've just
thing about how this is actually playing out in terms of a negotiation. I think that's. What
worried about what? What what I mean. Is it if you decide that you're going to like agree to pass what republicans will pass and then
the rest reconciliation and it adds up to a good package. Ok, that's
but I think that they have made the correct analysis that that's not likely to be how it plays out if they go down that route and then what do you think so? Does it? Maybe tuna weeds what I am interested in it so minimum wage to the way budget reconciliation works in this
why the filibuster can't stop. It is a process that allows
your related laws to pass with fifty one votes in the senate as opposed to sixty
but they're all these other rules as amendments at every studies allowed to put forward their limits and what you can do it has to impact the budget. Do you think that you can get
Minimum wage increase through budget reconciliation. Bike
knowing it and offset for some other spending in the bill. Would you think right now, but
I think you could make a good face argument and back it up.
a minimum. Wage increase meets the the required weird rules of reconciliation right,
it has to be principally about the budget, while
increase the minimum wage. You both increase tax revenues because people's wages go up and you reduce
ending, because people's need for social programmes goes down. So you do have like a very direct impact.
the federal budget particular parts of the federal budget that our permanent and that's what reconciliation meant to deal with
being said. I think the conventional wisdom for a long time has been that, since it's really a regulation and it's not itself attacks, increase or reduction or
recent spending that isn't really a budget change it. So
That's something that you change in the budget line. It's it's! It's a rule that you in imposed on businesses, the parliamentarian of the Senate, who is the person who kind of makes the final call might not agree with the argument.
nothing. We can't ride that person. We can happen in bohemia fire that personal
fire that person you can overrule that person. I think the dirty
Secret reconciliation is that of democratic
on to use it as a full and run around to filibuster they could, but in practice but d
rats and republicans have kind of treated reconciliation.
As like. Ok, we get one shot to avoid the filibuster. What we're gonna stick to the respective marine respect, yet at a strict rules, make short sea its budgetary. It's you know,
touch us! They haven't in practice, really gone too far out of the confines of of the rules itself and
so five. I haven't seen any sign that democrats want to
I think they could and I think that they could make pretty good arguments for it.
That allows them to say that preserving the filibuster. So actually that brings us to this topic. So, let's talk about what we do about the philip.
I am very sorry that the love ass, the villa, has been interrupting us all for this entire episode with a lot. I know you
I know you're in the middle of a very important conversation but Brian. What are your thoughts on being dad? Oh, no,
no. This is what the villa buster does it comes in and it tries to slow our progress, make it unable for us to have a conversation. Why did the teaching mom and dad moment it was not a teaching moment, filibuster. Shame on you, filibustering luck! It you'll, never get rid of me. I'm develop us there. I've been around since wherever I am
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Why did you know that I just hit under his bed?
I didn't do anything.
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filibuster! Listen, we are going
to find a way to get out of the promise analysed in cinema made are right.
Joe imagines open inimitable, aright we're going to minimize you at the very least hey how about this color lustre? What did we?
Why are the republicans actually stand up and talk
these gaps, emotions just be that day,
I'll be the day get out of here get out of here remarkable.
Anyway, Brian here's, where we were at that didn't conversation
so actually did definitely rather billet lester, so you know
This strange week, where
gay Mitchell cannot use the filibuster to try to extract a promise that the Democrats wouldn't get rid of the filibuster and
guinea the week. I think a lot of people were saying I'll Mitch overplayed his hand, which overplayed his hand and then, by the end of the week, Joe mansion, basically promise not to get rid of the filibuster eliminate you can you can parsec there's some space, but
Joe mansion seems to have at least affirmed that he would like to keep the
All of us are in place. Cinema went even further saying she's not even open to eliminating the filibuster. What do you make of those concessions?
How does that change the filibuster debate in congress going forward to me? I think two things.
Important one is admitted: Mcconnell isn't really acting like you got me,
shouted this right.
He'd gotten when he was asking for which was like the essentially like a vote.
on saint we're, not gonna, eliminate the filibusters this, but
gives a shit. It's that's just as now, because it's the same thing as long as we won't get further filibuster is just what we have, which is. As a rule that says, you won't get rid of the filibuster unless, with you
people say so I think it fifty one people vote to say they won't get rid of the filibuster. The chance it there.
Going to renee
the basis of future events is lower than to people say
I'm not open to change my mind about it. Now, right, that's
If we all you got an admission of conall is out there saying if you guys, kill the filibuster, I'm gonna make your lives hell, which
who have you if you really thought that you hadn't ironclad promise it was gonna happen. Use you wouldn't be out there acting worried that it might
so I don't think he thinks that this stories over and I think that that's good,
he's right to worry the fact that, in the face of a threat, which was basically unless you
Let me say which pieces of binds agenda
good to go or not. I'm not gonna! Let
take over the senate after you won the election that activity the answer, I wasn't immediately like we're going to need to filibuster immediately. I it's tough this.
Because that's basically saying like I'm, I'm I'm going to mount a coup through the legislature and they come on. He said what look here
using what he's got. He knows the Joe mansion cinema tester,
I want to do it on an organizing resolution. They dont want
you do it, they dont want to be the ones to kill it. That's misery! Conall
sweet daring, I'm in knowing that Schumer doesn't have the votes. Schumer would love to kill it on the organized resolution. A lot of democrats, would they don't have the votes? The reason I found the fact that they wouldn't do
on this sort of basic question of Joe.
And we are going to surrender his chairmanship to Mitch Mcconnell. So if
Was it enough to convince Joe mentioned that republicans aren't gonna, use the filibuster power in a constructive way? Then it's gonna take
lot of pressure. I think a lot of time. A lot of like report,
evidence that basic popular, simple,
things like the minimum wage increase are going to fail before you
I get your mentioning and Kristensen cinema to change their minds and if,
when they do. I think that what you are what you
during earlier is correct,
you're, not gonna, see them get rid of the filibuster altogether, but to establish a new of on a narrow, yeah, primarily a precedent in the senate to lower the number of votes it takes to end debate or to make
If, if somebody's gonna say you know, I don't I don't wanna vote up or down
they have to hold the floor and as soon as they stop holding the floor, then you get to your final vote, the something in that neighbourhood. What I do
way from the last week's shenanigans. Is that it?
to be a slow burn and
chuck. Shimmer would be wise to set up a whole lot of votes for republican civil
buster so that
mansion and cinema feel like ok, like he's right there, not using the filibustered to constructive ends, are just trying to stop us from doing anything. We gotta do something about it
writing. It seems like look. You know. Mansion is
I prefer former years in cinema is not up for a four year. She's an estate, that's turning more
our blue. They want to do it that they want, if that actually thinking
the right thing to do it doesn't it it has to be a mix of pressure, but it does seem like, especially with with mansion that he's like a panda. You gotta,
x out. You know I think Biden would have to get involved and I think
at some level it hasn't dawned on everybody in this, and even people who are more amenable-
to abolishing the filibuster because they just want to legislate that refusing to abide
to filibuster, while
maintaining membership in the one party that is like the last bastion of hope for american democracy is a
position, that is in congress right and it's going to end.
We're leaving at some point know if it'll be in twenty twenty, two or twenty twenty four or after that. But
If the people who you know, do the work to turn out to vote their votes, cow
they win the election
changes
meanwhile the other party in state legislatures is out there making it harder to vote
responding to their defeats by trying to win
a cheating, eventually that that's
unravel itself, Joe mentioning Kristensen, but maybe an appeal to their own since that date.
A harder time winning elections. If they dont do it, it takes to make voting fair, and you can't do that without getting worse
filibuster eminent, if all their think,
about in terms of making this calculation is what effect it's gonna have on their reelect ability several years down. The line that seems like a pretty soon
for way to make the case to them. Like there's, the principle of the majority gets to govern and there is also the like. Do you want
your voters to be able to cast ballots for you easily
maybe someone there they'll they'll get a sense of more on the line and just like whether they'll be blow back in arizona because of ads mission coloreds or whenever yeah
does seem too. We have to make a policy argument about basely, like a system where there is no cause and effect between vote and outcome is one that has rewarded cynicism, its rewarded, a sense that nothing matters. It is rewarded the kind of politics that lead to somebody like tromp, like yeah, I've, republicans gainful, controlling, there's, no filibuster, there's more damage that they can do, but
let's not bet on how quarter of our program. That's not that on. The third of our program has been on my program, our ability to use our program to win. So I think it's the substance. You know if your boss, to filibuster what he going to pass, what are the details of those bills? That's important. They should be good luck
they should help people and that will feed the cause of her.
Democrats, continued when elections, so that this authoritarian party doesn't get rewarded with more power, but
the question about whether they govern at all is going to
matter almost as much that the people who put in all the work of the last four years, including the people who,
Listen to this show in and are are supporters of crooked media. If they come,
see that all that work cannot be transmitted.
The ability for decent people to govern them.
what is their incentive to get involved in the next election and the election after that, and that's right,
the ultimately. What I worry about less is
a programme that they pass gonna be super popular implemented. Well, thus redound to their political benefit in two
six or eight years, and just do people get the sense that when they vote for the party that they support that the parties they support will get it to govern yet to get their fingers in it. You brian boiler
to talk to you. Thank you for being here. So sorry about fill a buster, Emily infirmary interruption. Everybody
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but ever back this week the bite administration push the treasury to find ways to speed up harriet tubman debut on the twenty dollar bill. It was stymied by the.
Hump administration that did not want to replace andrew jackson
because someone told trumpet Andrew Jackson was like him, so
by administration is trying to find a way to move this process along much more quickly and get around what the trump people did, which means that the goal
is to have harriet tubman sneak around some racists witches,
historically fitting in some sense
you? This is long overdue, but we were
then hurried, harriet, tubman, and how much of her
history is reduced to the underground rail road, but she did so many.
Credible things. So we
play. Gamer requires a listener
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Lived in idaho, my whole life so moved from.
the tiny down to the big city. You Democrat, I remember tat, has a corner
me and my dad were the two democrats in my hometown, orally yeah has ever gone. Lately
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in eighteen. Sixty harriet tubman performed her first public rescue of a fugitive enslaved
and tubman than thirty four disguised yourself as an old woman to get past them,
and guarding the courtroom fall
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harriet, tubman, planned and executed. Nineteen raids and enormous bounty was placed on her head, but she was never captured trail
in soldiers who served in the civil war were entitled to twenty five dollars a month pension. But despite harriet tubman service as a spy and a scout, she was only granted twenty dollars a month as in the same
per month, as the bank note, that might soon bear her likeness? Oh, I bet that's true. It's true. It's true elizabeth
You won the game harriet aspire. Thank you. Thank you for playing. Thank you for calling
from Boise, idaho you're welcome. I learned so little about harriet, tubman and on entry school. So I think I did god. I was an idea. How is this
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went forward and study in public policy figuring out. What I can do to you know most effectively implemented.
a change in the long run and who will be taking a step forward a lot.
Be the organizing that I have done over the past year has been such a great experience
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a priority over everything else, and it is so excited
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Keeping everything going in helping everybody. There have a democratic senate. I really appreciate it.
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