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week. So Emily we recorded last week's episode just a gold star family, at a reception in the east of the white house, unaware that trump had covered nineteen. We stick we still don't know when trump had his last negative test. It seems it was not before the presidential debate, otherwise they truly tell us, and doktor, feel good at walter reed seems to be upholding a strange version of hiphop called. Only good news allowed woken. No, the announcement of any kind Barrett's nomination to the supreme court, which included a crowd, had gathered the rose garden in a bunch of droplet exchanges inside the white house was a super spreader event. Since then, dozens of republicans have come back positive, including donald trump hope hicks senator mightily of utah sender, Tom, tell of north carolina senator ron, johnson of wisconsin cayley magazine, increase Christie aren't cheer run a rhamni mcdaniel. A penguin Mcconnell wants to stick on the fourth circuit court of appeals, kelly and conway current trump campaign manager in future brad personnel, murder

captain bill, steppin, see plus santa Monica fascist, Stephen miller, and because they wanted to make it look like she had interacted with the present recently. Firstly, maloney trump it's really a lot of people. When you listed out it's a lot of people like, I would say those pictures that they ve been showing where they highlight the people who have it have made. It seem like not as many people, because there are a bunch of people who I guess I didn't test positive, but as people yeah, it's a lot of people they really and protect anybody. It's giving me like upsetting images of just then hanging out with each other. Like the man, images that I don't want it does. It is like, obviously, it's serious what they ve done in terms of just being so reckless with their own health, but just the fact that these are the people that are meant to be leaders and research,

simple and we ve all been doing our part anywhere? They set your mark meadows. Someone's stumbled upon a cache of photos from the wedding of mark meadows. Daughter meadows is the way ass chief of staff and ages had a big ol wedding in atlanta. Just a big old a big normal. This isn't happening what and I think of all my friends and all the people in my life who have cancelled weddings, who have like eaten costs in deposits, who have reschedule twice who have You know, because you know you pick a wedding day. Apparently I dont know run, and I are waiting for a reception slot to open up on the moon. But but you know you pick your date and then you find your whoever you caterers and all the rest, a complicated process, but you find people who

available on your date when you have to move to a different date and you've already paid all these people. That gets a huge headache and a lot of people's lives and these people, who are meant to be in charge, who are meant to be demonstrating the best kind of behavior, completely disregard of the rules. They just completely disregarded the rules, and it reminds me of like that authoritarian quote. You know, for my friends, everything for my enemies. The law is just outrageous. outrageous. What what's also interesting to me about it? Just from a wedding perspective is like there are so many safeguards that people take at weddings to ensure that when they look back at the pictures they will like what they see. So, like are people who are in maybe like not the most stable relationships, like guess what that person is not going to be in the official photos, because they don't want to look back and find out that you guys broke up there. So many rules about like who get

to bring a plus one and all of that and like all these safeguards against the weather, like everyone has manicurist, like the amount of thought that goes into making sure that you can look back on your wedding pictures and like what you see is so intense that the fact that they didn't factor in like hey, I might not want to look back on this picture and that multiple people died of covert nineteen they caught at my wedding. I know it's just bad plant, unbelievable it's unbelievable. I would never and my data wedding airline deny. I gotta get the she's she would yeah yeah like she would not have tolerated that she would. We want running around with her little headset telling people to get their masks on and also like we shouldn't have done that we Madame It is women who mokanna hey. It's like k put on your mind. Then he is like

all right all right all right, something like that. I'm sure that's where we're out anyway, since he's been home in the white house, drop has been hopped up on a stair. I'd call decks and met the zone, which is twenty five times more potent than a cortisone shot. I've never felt better shouted well hanging from a chandelier in demanding dance casino treat a meme of Chris wallace having sex with bill. The plaza I've never felt better. John shouted while hitting golf balls at cowering, whitehouse butlers in full, p, p. I've never better John shouted, while waiting to calves, he drumsticks in the air like he was conducting an imaginary orchestra playing deutschland goober alice you one more yeah anymore, I'd like eating everything. I've never felt better. John shouted, while pardoning himself in sharply on the back of a portrait of millard filmore. At that I'll start there. Meanwhile, over the course of that

a few days, Tromp is treated even more than usual and taken every position imaginable on whether or not to pursue an economic relief baggage. Nancy Pelosi responded by proposing a means by which the twenty fifth amendment might be invoked by congress in the future not to be used against trump, but just to make trot add right now, which I have to say that things are like a really interesting move tat to be like what he's been Elaine hulk right now, anyway, let's see if we can get him to go fully. Agree. Oh, no, it's gonna bust his club, here's the thing what nancy Pelosi knows about the hawk is that we want like him when he's angry and she's like this is not helping him in the polls. We won't like him when he's anger gotta go far. We don't like companies, not angry, that's true wide, I don't know about you, but I don't like him any time. This is beside the point, basically over their course

vendors movies, they just decided it would be better if rough LE was in charge of when he hopped out. You know like because, in that like even see that I have my worker go on well and more. The point: that's debatable, but bore the point like it. The beginning hawk is just sort of kind of like on contains, but in the later films he gets more and more control over the hawk powers. That's all yet, but then I think it's in Radner rock. He doesn't ever de hawk he's, just always just stays hope for a while. I just little bit confused by the whole mechanics yeah, not important. If I wonder what it says about us as a society that we went from being like yeah, I'm totally okay with the idea of this man who can't be held accountable for when he becomes violent and to then being like well, maybe we should have some kind

safeguard against it happening for no reason, or he might be a little bit less likable and then they're like no. Let's just have him be the angry guy all the time. What does it say about the direct we're going and also what a big difference between like eighties tv hulk and two thousands marvel sit film hulk, because when I was a kid, the hawk was just kind of like a strong or green guy with a kind of pronounced brow that was the gist of the tv hall, but then- hope in the movies is on. promise an indefatigable yeah and I just prefer I'd- prefer a more vulnerable hulk. You want a hulk that needs to like go to a human bathroom. That's another thing, that's never addressed! That's another thing, that's never a joke. How big are those hoke shifts,

Why would they be bigger bigger? But what's the stuff you never eat is hulk? what I love is. I think there were predictions like fifteen years ago that our generation when we got older? All of our back in my days would be about comic books and we are approving them right. I do is fundamental wait! This is a problem in the marvel universe. This is a problem in the dc universe with superman. This is a problem in the boys. A show that ronan and I are currently watching- and I'm constantly saying to ronan- can be his watch other boys and he says no. I don't want to watch the boys right now reply you watch. The boy did want to walk to the boys, let's walk outta, let's watch other boys. Why? How you're saying it just saying: let's watch the boys out. I am hearing something that I'm not going out there, but ok eruption.

Superheroes, the hulk thor these sue recharge, superman home. under their constantly doing all kinds of stuff: they should just be turning a fucking crank They are perpetual motion machines. How who would be so much more valuable if they just got up every day and just one like this to power the turbine yeah and for those who say at all my mom, I'm running a crank, these doing tat the crank like in a brain when our grandparents commitment, yeah the embryo but but but but think about think about the good superman could do for the environment. Just got up every day and generated some carbon neutral electricity. Incredible bright, incredible need him running around the city. Stopping impoverished people from snatching person. In order to survive gallic, I'm not saying we shouldn't have systems in place to stop per snatching. I'm we're a probe

snatching of all the uses of an alien from a distant planet with superhuman powers and the ability to lift aeroplanes. It seems like petty crime should not be. The focus, lay the tracks for a light rail system across the united states. What do you do in fighting crime? Yeah? light rail infrastructure repair, some of our roads and bridges also this week facebook announced a new, more aggressive ban on cuban on post. This is a proposal from facebooks global vice president for putting the toothpaste back in the tube and this week, Samuel Alito and clarence Thomas wrote in opinion calling to overturn the court's recent in over fell be hodges, which established a constitutional right to same sex marriage. If a six three rightwing court overturns marriage right when it saved have big gay weddings. Again, we will add justices to that court. Emily

gay people know a thing or two about fitting in eleven when there was previously only room for nine that Alan yeah, and I I think, you're someone who is listening to this and you don't understand that joke. I say: don't bother looking it up. If you ve gone to this point in your life, not knowing, and things like that, you probably don't want to know. Well, I would also say tough thing to see us out by looking it up If you're gonna have to ask a friend, don't know what you're getting someone who would know to explain it to you either. You know what disregard emily's advice get to the yeah peculiarities throughout the world and finally, talk about the other big news this week, the vice presidential debate between senator canada Harris and an early ninety ninety republican, who was told you could come out of his Jimmy memorize twenty sentences, my pants the best moment of that

came early when they talked about run a virus and commonly said this. Whatever the vice president is claiming the administration has done clearly, it hasn't worked when you at over two hundred and ten thousand dead bodies in our country, pence responded. I prefer to see it as two hundred and ten thousand angels looking down from Heaven and thinking I didn't want to see tented anyway yeah. It was a very uncomfortable debate. Yeah I didn't like watching it at all. It is, of course, obviously true that in some sense it was more civil than the debate between trump and Joe Biden like if the words means anything. Of course, Donald trump was interrupting. Debase the entire proceeding didn't follow. The rule was more mature, it was man mature, but I had to say. I think it is worth pointing out that it wasn't less vulgar, because otherwise, That is accepting the idea that lying with more tact, isn't some sense in any sense, more appropriate than lie

while shouting lying or grassy, lying while being macho. You know like like right, MIKE pen, speaking and more effective in some sense lie or being a more live and smooth liar doesn't make it a more disgraceful or debased debate o emily. Yes, it was less. He slimy loud does have the spikes on him, but he still slimy and it's still find that can poison and kill you yeah like there's this type of caterpillar that's been seen in I like the DC metro area that traditionally had come from further south and it looks like an adorable little hairy caterpillar like it's almost cute like a little cousin, but if you touch it it's toxic and it feels, like your hand, is burning. Yes, I don't really

I had to make the analogy connect, but you see what I'm getting at it's a little bit too flattering of a comparison for pence, but I get it and yeah. No. He was like so unresponsive and it was so frustrating to watch as someone who like understands when someone's answering the question that's being asked, and then he tried to accuse her of not answering questions when it was like. You literally spent the time you were supposed to spend on answering a question on asking her a different question, like you, don't get to act like she's, the one not answering and it was also like you could sense how hard it was for her to contain her frustration when it's like your literally debating someone who's wearing like a blood covered apron with like blood their hands. Try to decide who is a deadly or person, and it was like. Why do I even have to explain it right? Well, that's! That's that's it you're such a good way. To put it right,

Well, like you know, the idea of a presidential debate, or vice president onto the debate, is predicated on the idea that we are in a marketplace of ideas in which two competing visions for the country compete in a level playing field to discern for the american people who has the best vision for the future. That is, of course, not what's going on here. There is no cogent arguments. There is no real case for mike pence and donald trump. There it doesn't exist, there's a propaganda case. There is enough rot in the system that they hope they can use that propaganda and mistrust and dislike. Ten to overwhelm ordinary politics overwhelmed democracy that it really does come into stark relief during the actual debate itself, because this is per ten might pens, is now can actually be able to articulate a legitimate argument for the candidacy of donald trump. One doesn't exist, he spent the weak being a contagious steroids, idle person spreading conspiracy theories and misinformation about the ongoing pandemic. They fail to contain. There's no debate here. It's pretend now,

after collins's did you would trust signs of a vaccine over donald trump. Might pen said this so fact that you continue to undermine public confidence in a vaccine. constable senator I just ask you start playing pilot: people's lives. Yeah. Our job, the idea of my pants, putting on that fucking self, righteous mug, defeated tony's, just so sad to see politics drew fearing that public health when he got trouble on the white house lawn being like I got the curate regeneration and finally, on climate change. My pen said this: you know, what's remarkable, is the states has reduced seo too? more than the countries theirs. Fill in the paris climate a core, but we ve done it through innovation. In fact, thanks to the job,

duration over two hundred, ten thousand americans are now completely carbon neutral and finally, pens repeatedly tried and draw up common heritage, but she shut him down real quick when she said that Thirdly, I want to thank MR vice president speaking, I'm living Emily. I guess I have to add two more names to the list of women. That mike pence will not lead finish. Yeah, that's the last year. That's the last debate, yup we're not going to talk about the fly I mean. I didn't really have anything left to say I felt like it was pretty well mind. You have any thoughts about the fly. I well puts me in mind of something that's been on my mind, a lot recently, which is just pest control, one which is an issue

in the garden on the debate stage, while we are not all that they inside baby for Emily's garden, Emily, starting with a guardian things. Tat is your right our hour, that out with it these garden show so excited I did ask winning yeah I think it's nappy. I augur well, first of all that The attitude I want from you going into this ok and I'm thinking about how to improve this segment, because, unlike you, I'm a professional and I realized. Ok, we ve got a big election coming up. That's right! We do you care about that ray! You realize you want bite in to win. I do really right us

they rightly well? I have in my hands, take a screen shot right now, guys hundreds of letters to swing stayed voters and these letter, yours could go in the mail or they could go straight into the tree don't do that and it's up to you, John love It- where they go. If you want them to go into the trash, go ahead, keep talkin shit about Emily's garden shelves, ransom If you want these to go in the mail you are, Do you have in engaged in conversation with me about my art in okra, our caught, where this Why isn't what I'm doing to save the country or analysis Emily's garden vote is happening right now. so you're telling me that if I don't play along with this godforsaken segment, in a throw those letters in the trash could the election yeah could be the tipping point or at any site. You want you.

One you ve won this round. If one is round here, we go, I'm gonna do my absolute best. Okay, and I want you to know all right. This is not willing. This is forced. There is a loaded box is now being held to my head, but I'm in a hurry Are you ready, anyway and weakened as edit out that part you re! Ok, I'm so excited. Tell me more about your garden. Where are we falling into fall over here. We may have another heats nap headed our way in the zone ten be next week, but that hasn't stop me from getting a head start on my lettuces. My Aruba and I've even got some brussels rounds in the ground. I've got some broccoli going, my garden, be having an identity crisis, because it's like winter vegetables you're, making the guinean cucumber over here. oh I'm! So what do you think about that? I think that's zucchini great

Am I doing what do you think about pest control? What do you know about nimois or are you in steady, hearing, more about name oil, I'm a big sent around. That seems that bad I'm a huge fan of them, the products from the company monsanto known as round I'm just I don't want that. Just get it was some roundup john. I guess I don't recommend that, especially for edible gardeners. This is not a good move. You want to use something that site more organic. Some people actually bring in lady bugs to eat their efforts. What do you think about that Thank you as a kind of one of the sweeter and less vulgar films that ronnie

dangerfield ever made. Ok, it's clear to me that this is not going. How I hoped it would. I feel, like I'm, going to throw these in the trash. Don't do them in the trash okay. What do I need to listen Emily? Please don't throw those letters in the trash. I don't think that that's right, I think that you should put them in the mail to those swing state voters it could make all the difference isn't could be close to be close. Alright, I can't trust the polls are right. These are swing state voters. We need those votes. Tell me what I gotta do. Tell me what I gotta do to save those letters. I want you to sing the song. I sent you some revised lyrics. If I sing the song you're sending these letters are going straight into the mailbox. Okay, okay. Okay, do you have the new lyrics yam. Alright, let's hear it but baba here we go. I was kind of you in. I don't want that. Okay, here we go. It's Emily's garden vote from his I guess you artichokes I wanna talk soil she's I goyal it's Emily,

The garden vote? What's next wasn't that John. I love it and you gotta now, Emily S, garden joe, nothing as ever. so good as Emily's garden vote. With some that's my new ring input summer. Just that up go on that bad under their emily's garden dot com. You can go he's garden show dot com? Your I had to get out to vote the torturing John. You can go right now to Emily his garden votes, dot, com or Emily's garden, show dot com type. Whatever you want into the bar and good things will happen and dumb I'll, send these letters which I feel guilty about this, but I should add that these are not letters to swing

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While star with a second one. I think it's, I don't think he decides anything. I think it's a hole in his soul that causes him to try to get attention. You know any attention is better than no attention, even if its negative attention for him, Camila did really well, and I wasn't as overconfident as others were because saw. I remember the pence came debates and I serve both with tim and calmly and tim's really impressive, and a good debater and a very likeable person super knowledgeable like MIKE pants has. Kind of way about him then allows- and a kind of whether through these moments, I'm sorry me slightly less crazy. Then his actual policy and record and comma just wasn't standing for it. Now. What Kamel ahead in her favour the tim came, didn't is the facts are so bad for that, administration there, just laying them bear in a systematic fashion, puts you wear

had in any debate, and I think she very skilfully navigated, the difficulty of a person like my pants trying to throw her offer dame trying to get her irritate and she was extraordinary? She really kick his ass. It was a pleasure to see with pen specifically there's a chance with the word gaslight I think, has been run into the ground, but with him specific There really is a kind of coolness and com that is predicated on idea that donald trump just doesn't exist. You know he's there. He's gonna represent his views, We need civility trumps, god, broad shoulders, it just sort of our kind of an altar. reality, and it I I do think Even now, it is still a challenge. I think she did a masterful job throughout that debate, but it is very hard to make a case somebody who is constantly flying not of course, but not just lying right. It's not just lying its lying in china, his head in saying that's ridiculous, that it's not just that you're not telling me.

It is that you're being ridiculous by even suggesting something so obscene yeah, and I remember he did it to TIM, yeah yeah. I have a smirk and that's not true and kind of there. You go again kind of thing, in the battle of facial expressions common, whereas one and those of us who serve with her. I think no, that face right, sometimes will be at a carcass luncheon sum of one of my colleagues may say something in we'll just sort of shouldn't knowing glance at each other, I mean her eyes really speak volumes and there were a couple of moments where and I know Anderson cooper was saying last night, that he'd sometimes turns the television the sound off and watches. And if you did it that way, you would say Kamel a one common one on points. I think she went on style. I did she went on substance. As you all know, the facts, it was an actual blow out. I think the only It doesn't feel like a bigger blow out is last week was like the bottom. Dropping out in the most catastrophic performance of any presidential candidate.

you know in recent memory, so that, just day your sixty forty blow out doesn't fit as significant, and I might even feel like I sort of minor moral victory for the other side. But calmly did what she came to do, and she did a very well I actually want to move beyond the debate, because it is something that they ve been doing for a long time on the issue of choice and on the issue of health care pence dodge the question right, the question apparently Susan paid, wasn't aloud ass, follow ups pre existing conditions. What would you do if row v wade was repealed? In both cases? He didn't want to say the answer, and it seems to me that they are counting on the idea that their actual position is so anathema to most americans that most americans don't actually believe that could be their position that it can really be. our position to throw the entire healthcare system into chaos by overturning the affordable care act in court. And having no replacement get really be put their position that they know not

want roe v wade overturned, but they want to criminalize abortion across the country. How do you make that case? How do you really drive home that they really have taken these incredibly unpopular, and you know politically jane rest and bonn policy grounds, dangerous positions. The I think it's a super important question, at least for all of us who are trying to persuade people in the next three weeks to vote for the Democrats, because sometimes the truth makes us sound like we're sort of law. Tax write like our american democracy at stake, they're going to take away your rights. They are, however, it is very important, going to engage in a dialogue with someone who may lean conservative but have his or her reservations about trump or people? I know who just I want to admit what is at stake, as it would require them to do more. You know you got stay in their own state patient with these folks because star dealing with the kind of level of sort of frenzy

hamlet, anxiety, that a lot of us actually feel, and we think it is absolutely justified- is just not a good, persuasive, technic right so ray. I always say you know: how do you describe what's happening accurately and not sound, like you're standing outside a revolution, bookstore puck sally in Honolulu. Talking above, You know how we need to overthrow the government. I mean it it's really happening, and I think, especially with healthcare. We have an opportunity to make the case that this really is happening. The number of times they voted to overturn the affordable, correct and the fact that their in federal court to do just that, on november tenth and a day admit to it, I think, is where we should all land, because it makes our base to turn out, but it's also a deeply unpopular thing for the Republicans even within republican circles. Nobody really wants to admit that their due not now John cornyn in taxes is running an advocate about always gotta project for existing conditions.

I will tell you I'm not an ad guy, but it sounded so tenure watch the ad and I was like I don't know. I feel like it's a little too late for that, and I don't Leave that you're gonna for very many people if a sort of last minute, oh yeah, we'll meet you, I'm with the democrats on this. I appreciate that on the affordable care out, but there is this. challenge on issues related to just preserving our democracy on issues related to eat the unfitness of trump as a person you, you pointed this out on twitter. I thought it was a really good point that basically, what made trump returning to the white house waving from the balcony. Putting these people at risk was that it was such a purified worst version of trump right. He was directly putting people in harm's way directly to make himself look,

and feel better. How do we talk about it's a little bit like the pandemic to me in that the precautions you take to prevent a pandemic? Look like overkill if they work stopping trump saving. Our democracy looks like overkill if it works. How are you finding the best way to talk about these issues about the authoritarian impulse that we see the fact that MIKE pence refuses to say that they will support a peaceful transfer of power? How do you make that politically valuable. When it's so important, you know look. I don't spend a lot of time on this in the next three weeks for the following reason. I think, if you're not persuadable fight all of these authoritarian actions- and it's probably not the issue that was going to move you- I think it's very important to get red recent history in terms italian, fascist, elected dictators and the way, they were. Finally beaten was with populist economic issues, and so the real That may be foundational important to oust donald trump may not be ignored

for the same reasons that are going to boost. our likelihood of winning and as long as what we are saying is true. I'm gonna be focusing on the inaudible care act. I am going to be. Focusing on row, I'm gonna be focusing on climate, Would it be focusing on the fact, especially that Mitch Mcconnell has found the time to rush. Through any coney? Bear it in order to overturn the affordable, correct, but hasn't taken up covered relief legislation, since it finger late April early may, all of them motivate me to be in this fight are important, but I I also have to meet people where they are and where they are, is usually trying to survive this moment for their family for their business, and for themselves so you need to meet them at that point and not get into abbe red. Madeleine albright spoke about fascist right. That's for this project.

honestly. That was in my my pennsylvania phone banking to to swing voters. That was my first question is: do you have a plan to vote and have you read fascism by madeleine albright? Well, actually, no, I take that point. I think that's right. I actually do think, though, after this election. Looking back, I do think we need to have a conversation about why at the actual democracy itself. The values of democracy itself aren't important in terms of persuading people that how do we elevate those in people's minds? But I I agree. We have twenty five days and you brought up the supreme court battle. There's been two parts of the debate. One is just What are the tactics we used to slow it down? What are the bare knuckle tactics we used to stop at the other is how do we engage right to be legitimize the process but asked tough questions, or do we refuse to be part of the process, refuse to recognize it won't take each one. So first, what is your view as the best way to engage in this cause,

nation fight in these hearings like what? What do you want to see are members of the Senate endeavour? Gotta caucus do well, I sort of briefly contemplated. You know, saying: look Democrats should not give legitimacy to this process? We should walk out and all the rest of it and the truth is members of the judiciary committee said I will not do that. There's a supreme court confirmation here. I'm gonna hold these people to account. I'm not going to abdicate my rule and fair enough right, but in any case that's the kind. then you can only do with unanimity right. You can't be, like several of you, walk out they are authority or they're. Just doesn't work so well when whether you meet with amy coming bear is like a sort of signals, it certain people paying was attention, but mostly it's not be issue. I want us to focus on health care. I want us to focus on the phone, that ted crews and others have specifically said it is important to install a justice in or to settle any election disputes, I mean that is deep

deeply alarming, and I think we absolutely have to focus on right to choose because to your original question, people dont think choice is really gonna be taken away and yet that exactly what's going to happen. These people are absolutely committed taking away women's reproductive choice, they're going to do it as a matter of constitutional law. Now we have recourse state level and maybe even in the in the federal government at the statutory level. But that's actually what's going to happen one. sorry I think we should steer clear of for both moral and political reasons. Is I don't want to enteric anybody's faith in any way. I think morally bankrupt and I think it's politically stupid. So we need to stay away from that and beer little bit more discipline as members of the Senate about sort of what are our lines of attack and not just following our own news and our own curiosity and our own in uncertain

I need to make a name for ourself. Oh well, good luck with that when you fail when you crack that one yeah but yeah, I mean it's also. I think worth pointing out too that on choice, this isn't radical and a lot of states where they have put in place draconian restriction. We are already millions of people who have been no access to family planning. Reproductive healthcare is so the other piece of this is about the ability to use and a procedure. Oh yeah. You know that there was a moment where chucks humor called for a closer vote, and ever said I didn't realize he was allowed to do that. Why is in doing that, all the time and eyes, environment I'm paying I'm a reasonably attentive watcher of numerous, and sometimes I discover that there are rules and powers that send democrats have that. I didn't realize they have and I wonder why they weren't being used all along. What are the tools are democrats disposal and how effective do you think they can be in giving us a chance of pushing the nominee

can fight pass the election, so this is so boring, but you might cut it out of this podcast, but islands accepted that the problem here is that listen. everybody knows we're gonna, do everything we can or should know that we're do everything we can to delay. Process, but actually is unwise for us to announce the specific tactics because they have counter tactics, they have things? They can do that procedures they they can avail themselves up, but suffice it to say, We will leave no stone unturned in terms of delaying the process. whether or not we will be successful in delaying it beyond the elect and I dont know directly to be seen in the sort of scuffle of those moments. I will add, though, that one of them the most like These scenarios, in terms of it being delayed, is simply that republicans can't foster a quorum because of their exposure to when a virus, so very important for the muslim

and things that the forty seven democrats, boss, democratic leaning independence, can do, I need I, They said it is not get thrown a virus. I mean. I know that sounds cover silly thing, but we have forty seven strong so that we can either withhold a quorum or beat them on on the floor vote louse. if you put that in the pot, I'm very kids staying in it staying in I'm interested know, everybody at home is interested here. Some supervisor who gets to make the call now on my own boss, right within the law. The last question for you and thank you so much time, people are listening. Theyve donated short, get Mitch funds. they have adopted a state. What is the most helpful thing? You think people should be directing their energy to right now in the homes retro got twenty four days left What senate races you want them focused on that they may not be focused on. Where do you want them to spend their time mike espy in mississippi? This thing is close cindy

smith, who is incumbent, but an appointed incumbent and not a very energetic campaigner. My think raise two hundred thousand dollars last quarter MIKE b is surging: that's a race that is still under funded on our side. I m j Hagar in taxes for the same work. Does she? Surging Biden just dropped seven million dollars in the texas, and I think it's a serious play for taxes and a better and Leon acquire came castro and answer. Texas Democrats are really taking this quite seriously, and the thing about taxes is there's no point at which we have enough money projections right. There are erases where united, that has enough money right. More kelly, probably has enough money. M J Hagar really doesn't have enough money, those at it. Races that I find most intriguing. I would add Barbara bali is very important and I'm getting the website, but in the democratic senatorial campaign committee has a place to sign up to do voter protection

and this is something you can do in person if you feel comfortable with it and as long as the protocols are observed, but is also a way bottomless need for volunteers who can work, the phones and just read from a script and, People through their vote, a protection rights, it might be simple as say twenty four hours after most of the ballots recounted. We find that there are three thousand ballots that need to be cured and other there's some technical problem with a ballot, but they only have twenty four hours to go into the precinct and fix it so we need an army of volunteers to call those people and to walk them through the process so that their vote counted and valid their lot people who are going to want to have something to do over that tourism They period, rather than just refresh twitter and and watch television I very much encourage everybody. If you're tapped out money wise to sign up to be a vote

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and don't do that, and so many of you have signed up three hundred thousand of you have adopted a state. We've raised almost thirty million to win the senate and millions mortified vote. Suppression, flip state legislatures and keep the house, but some of you, let's face it, our stragglers. For example, some of you could be phone banking, but you're nervous to take that first step, you're, afraid to get yelled at you're, afraid, you'll screw it up. You'll afraid you'll fall in love with a baritone outside pittsburgh, who can't talk long because he's busy doing pushups and baking pies for neighborhood seniors for heading back to the firehouse. The truth is you'll, get a bunch of ups you'll get a few genuinely inspiring and helpful conversations. And yes, it's true one or two bad interactions, but once it happens, you'll realize it's no big deal. It's fine. Some good calls a few hum dingers and you did your part and you'll be glad. You did so now it's time for a segment. We call talk to strangers to save democracy or explain to friends why you didn't, and we have a

very special guest here to show us various ways these calls can go. Please welcome the star of the hit series, sixteen hundred pen and absolutely nothing else, Josh gatt, Saint John! It's been a dry spell. that show about a decade ago. Thanks for breeding, into the limelight. I appreciated, but I'd like to help my friends, you know why did you say Suppose you're still grateful. I am hoping for a reboot You know, then, that we can now we can get the whole correct, You know I've said it war, but it if trumpet and become president I'd, be just a writer on some uncontroversial roseanne reba I'd be doing right now, we'd be unseasoned too. Maybe John, edmund, would start a business yeah just think america that could all be years two months from now

If things go, the way we want them to doubt. Junkie still have their fate. We can deliver that it. There is space for real to be here. other, after all, these years of begging you to be on the of that dagon I mean literally like tracking you down at parties and being like do not like you don't want me on the shelf, get upset you buy, not getting us a season to pick up, even though that was outside of my control life. What's your problem, why are you a dead? I want you to know that. I knew that this was. Coming and I said I'm so excited to have josh on this is going to be the perfect thing, but we just all need to understand. I'm going to have to eat some shit, yeah, that's the price I pay. So here's how it's gonna work Josh is going to play our and decided voter receiving a call from a phone bank Can we lead our isabel in to the into the zoom that you,

She waited a coward her by her full name, isabella and just decided to drop it. isabella. I welcome your arm with John Europe. John you're. Also here a josh GAD high. As a guy, you don't know that we have a picture together from when I saw you in book of mormon high school or from me and Josh GAD. My group, I just need to get that I'm so sorry I left on, show grateful I'm so grateful great to be reunited again I like it when the excitement is directed at me. I love it. First man, I've put on make up, or, unlike probably like longer than the pandemic and tenders lost on me. Isabella

thank you so much for doing so. You ve graciously agreed to be our phone banker right. Here's how it's gonna work, we're trying to show people that phone banking is kind of fun and yes, sometimes the calls or great, sometimes or a kind of just okay. Sometimes people can be a little rude sometimes, but it's ok, because yet the goal you gonna make as many causes you can get to some good voters, and sometimes you have to deal with some bad calls and it's gonna be fine. So today Josh GAD his graciously agreed to play the person you are going to call. We have a script. You have a script in front of you are you're gonna make three calls one about health care, one about the economy, one about criminal justice reform. We ve, given you is

but your job is really just a kind of have a conversation to let this person know some of the great policies that Joe Biden in common harris have to make sure they know why it so important that they turn out to vote. Sometimes when you phone bank, it's about getting out, the vote sometimes is about local issues. This is just a demonstration, so we thought would use the Biden harris platform. You add the script you have the problems. Josh will be the person you're calling we're not sure how it's going to go isabel? That's the thing you gotta just convince them. Just convince me, that's all you gotta do. Are you ready, isabella com, number one is about health care and isabella. If you have any questions, if you want a phone or friend, I'm here, ok, Call number one high: my name is visible and I'm calling on behalf of the democrats- and I was just wondering if you currently have a plan to vote Do you even know what that would mean? No one will explain it to me as you ma am. Yeah, where we have an election. Can a man a matter where we have no

coming up for a president in november, and at this moment you might this. Remember that guy it has already started, there's already in person early voting. I don't know what state you're in what city are you and Josh all in a state of boredom reddit page? You can really bore me with michelle talk about elections and stuff. Here's the deal is on achieving a re run of last night's basketball game and some I of I guess what are you tell me a little bit about light, were the guys were on the dollar well, I know and issue a lot of people are voting on and feeling really passionately about his health care, and, to be honest, I daresay I don't believe in the council being set. You say: healthcare, you'd love all along preparation. What are we talking about? Exactly really all of you

No, no. I'm sorry show busy right now at once from a medical that I do not have time to list. That's really greek is justified. It has helped to do cheryl. Is it a returning look at what you've done to all these politicians and the same? No one wants to give me covert. The other probably, does I know a lot of people. That way paint stop! Stop stop talking for a second. Let me ask you some questions for civil liberties what is voting. So voting is a way for us to have a say in our government and we get to choose the president. We get to vote for hacker. You don't have to tell me about politics yeah. god, damn follows my wife on twitter Did you know Joe Biden, who is running for president? Be honest with you? I just got out of the shower, I'm going to walk, wet as phone call, but I not clear

Medical dad- and I wondered whether you are you know that Joe Biden in his plane wants to end surprise. I'm calling on Poland as well as a huge success, huge success. I felt like she really convinced you push through, Are you push through the hostile call you push through. You got out some health care information. You made a connection because brok obama both follows this person's wife on twitter and was the president when Joe Biden was the vice president, and you got him to think about making a plan to vote despite a hostile call, call, it went away, I can get into win and I just want to say very curious who his wife is like I want to know more about these characters in and later what his wife did to earn their respective barack obama, What about his brands and adopted may I be like the interested yet retreat time for com

virtue, isabella? This car is about economics, my name is isabella and I'm calling from the Biden terrorist campaign. All here What are you doing all working law are women also talk to you because I keep region two is possible for me to vote for both of these guys ninjas. They both They weren't so odd and great. I'm happy. You ve been engaged in the democratic process launched in gauge murray fifty years now gradually second twice Well, congratulations, but I'm so, unfortunately, is not possible to vote for two people number two, I'm here to talk to you a little bit about I'm Joe Biden, unkind from the vine harris

I'm paying no gun? Why, when the ninety nine year old debate in the terrorist campaign? Jug? Yes, yes, he was there. Now you might have heard of him and he ran a scene. You know, since the harmony who's on java planned about right now, you're gonna do it you want to do it Are you going to do it and then do it by voting? That's really awesome! I planning to go pursuing our mobile I don't want a bag. That's you know that the understandable I know a lot of us have concerns about coded right out. So are you planning to have you requested a name ballot. No more! No! What are you nine should to my life? We should get one. No, I think it's really Really smart wow, I dont have you heard about save america dot com? They nobody bob Tom, but I know by taxes, would tell me about that. You home

Can you check to see what might be found these coming as well? I don't know if I can help you with that, but I can tell you a little bit about Joe Biden. He wants to raise taxes higher taxes on the one percent and big operation, which is that I am I in this on I've never been driven mad. I dont know I dont have access to your income, but he also has a plan to expand brent subsidies for low income families. I didn't know what those we should do is what's stopping you from getting rich. Maybe one day my mind, appeared can take up I'll. Do that is really, and that sounds really cool. I love about I'm a big fan of mamma me. You know, maybe it

I have gotten one thing: Joe Biden really wants, as he is pushing for a fifteen dollar federal minimum wage. I'm not sure that the job I loved and and goodfellas warm alarm the guy with the italian example. Does he really have what it takes to be? President? You know. I think that when you look at your vines policies, you see a lot of really great things. He supports equal pay for women that want Joe Biden. Socialist agenda damage the academy. I read on facebook that Joe Biden is in fact the famous revolution and good leader mr shape, and I also said he baby. I know there's a lot of information on facebook and I know some of its reliable and some of its not on what I do know is that Joe Biden has plans to expand the child tax credit as proposed in the case of cairo. I'm calling

I'm caught it. Here's the thing we're on about what I just heard is about fifteen seconds in Josh. Society was a very old jew than thirty seconds, and you realize you ve been married for fifteen years, which was not enough time for the sake of their That's what came next. Second life twice removed, which I also love and I am and isabella pivoted she raised seared you away from facebook misinformation. She relate, did you she didn't loudly. You said that you are doing in abercorn. She said she said to me. You know the things You ve, heard about in group being shade were veron eating babies those you just have to, and I appreciate that because I need I hear that in order not to believe it yeah it's there as a matter. I didn't know how to fact check that information and let you follow me so that was helpful part. Alright, isabella you're, crushing it

all right! You re in a bunch of outside of this is, I have to say the hardest task. We ve ever didn't. You hear me no power you have to deal with the maniac alright final and your crushing yet his music career, alright, we should all do. Not worried about wanted to cover, doesn't know if he's in the one present on his second marriage that is important to want to allocate by the way I'm not gonna lie isabella. I actually did phone bank and got a guy that inspired the impression I just did for you. That is true, sir. I'm cool, yeah final call. Alright, let's see what version of a of a phone bank recipient isabella gets this time, I'm very excited This call is about criminal justice. Our aid is your last call with closer diana. Let's get this done, grain

I am my name is isabella and I'm calling from the binding terrorist campaign. Actually, can I convince new debate. I don't know it's already planning. I'm planning putting early encourage then I'm. How are you planning on voting on voting with both fingers on the trigger a mask? one of those face shields covering my eyes and the most bad ass plastic cover that my body. to what was that you want to talk about criminal justice. yeah. I said, I love criminals and I need to know more. Yes, absolutely, okay. So what do you do? You know anything about the Biden harris on criminal justice reform plan or anything. I don't know that the Biden Harris criminal justice plan

ro exciting to get to talk with them and so excited about it. She said it to be listened to and to hear someone else who also month about as badly as I do absolutely did you know fine inherits, are planning to decriminalize marijuana up just gonna make the simple for you there's nothing that can come out of your mouth with the words Biden in areas that are don't already know, but listen. Here's the deal want to vote for binding. I've always wanted to vote for by even this year, but I just needed someone to call me ever fallen. Ask me to do sage bulk, forbidden well, I'm here I'm here and I am happy to be dismissed me. That no, I'm is prizes. You I just ran up the wall in turkey, ninja worrier, rang the bell and received this call and I'm all selling did you know that Joe Biden cobbler harris, have a plan to eliminate private prisons and the penalties and

can I tell you what I do. I just take Haldeman unknown collars all day hoping that they trim support binding areas, and this is like the start of a friendship that I think going beyond november. Third, I'm hoping and I'm just getting together enlisted people. So if you could give me your social security name and address to see her in his friendship, though, really awesome, I'd call it it. I'm calling it I'm calling it that that's about we're gonna, call that a vote at all. Isabella convince what an incredible stop showing people that phone banking, sometimes people are a little bit hostile. Sometimes they don't know, what's going on, sometimes they're super fun and enthusiastic, and you make a friend who asks for too personal of an information types of information that will happen. That will happen. You know that it was a nice person who was talking to you about how excited he was to vote isabella. Thank you. Major being on the show you did such

a job showing people had a phone bank. John, that I need to tell you something I do now. So I am a phd student getting her chemistry, and I just think that you, a crooked media, don't know how much of science you power. Because, like everyone, I know who works and allow all we do all day. Listen about gas. That's all we do we power sire you power science and I feel, like you, don't like give yourselves enough credit like I'm setting hepatitis b and like basically I just like meeting every day on Monday, when I'm, I pray putting my ass. They like ok, like when's the new paths saved and draw I'm so bored like and can I ask you a question? Is anyone in in the medical community inspired by sixteen hundred pen as well or frozen, or anything like that? Or did it not? You know I have listen to frozen in law before not gonna lie some singing roseanne. Absolutely so I I would say I don't know her watching tv.

These in shaping for more direct connection like the one you gave John, but it's cool, it's cool. Josh, but we haven't you. He did you isabella, don't indulge him all right, don't indulgence, Thank you so much yes, I am by the way. I don't know you can mozilla showing thing. I don't give myself enough credit, but all I am I understand the point you are making and oh god so wonderful to have you on the show will be trying to get you on here for such a long time. That is gambling this get that involve difficult, your car making frozen you. Might I write a book you and then it's like. I can't go, be finally ascribing shooting avenue guy I'm busy busy busy. I would love to be on making a strong every next fall

wall and every for everybody. Listening to everybody listening, you can sign up for a virtual phone bank right now. You can do it from your couch. You do a bunch of other volunteering to just go to the save america, dot com, slash, volunteer, isabella, wonderful josh. I have to have you back on the next couple of years, try to find out in a couple of years, yet totally totally unable to either do this ah together or from another country does anyone have themselves jack. It's gonna get me like that, at the very guys by everybody. When we come back, I know don't go anywhere with more of love it or leave it coming up lover leave is brought you buy better help is something ending you from achieving your goals. How boy personal experience pull up a chair get comfortable lotta thinks prevents me from achieving Michael's knee pain, cove id

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