Ike Barinholtz breaks down the week's news from gendered potatoes to Obama podcasts. Fran Lebowitz joins for a new segment we call the "Frant Wheel." Shea Serrano talks about life in Texas after the storm and government failures. And we talk about Top Shots, whatever they are. Plus we quiz a listener about the Golden Globes - the good, the bad, and The Tourist.
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recent days. We have seen relatives of the victims of that shooting, not just fighting for gun safety, but fighting against conspiracy theories to them.
Doing at our scott beagles parents, and I grew up with skype eagle we went to
together for years. He was one.
Person he was a teacher, he was accounts
and his parents have done an incredible amount of work fighting for his legacy for his memory fighting for gun safety fighting against
theories, and one thing they do in his memory is something called the scotch beagle memorial fund, which sends disadvantaged children, human,
by gun, violence to summer sleep way, camp its
worthy cause, and, if you want to support at, you can go to scotch
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a really nice way of us
operating the memory of somebody who did so much rickets this week. I too,
returning champion shea serrano about everything from what's been happening.
In texas to whatever these topshop things are. I talked
fran liebowitz
tolerated me. I think the reasonable amount and who stuck around to do
version of the rant. We will call the france wheel and
we play a game with our listeners about the golden globes, but first he's an actor come
in writer and his new film moxie premiers unmarked. Third welcome back returning champion. I barrels I have
to reclaim my title
I guess I'm taking you down guy brain m he'll hear this.
Better milk, how I know I'm ready for you, I'm ready for you all right.
Let's get into it, what are we
all right. We're gonna start with the worst jokes emitted by our writers. That's what we do.
Sparrow announced that MR potato head will now be gender neutral. Changing the toys named to just potato head this in fury
Conservatives who say
There are only two genders potato.
Potato,
Well, listen, I think. That's a good joke! If you like jokes, if you think this is a funny thing like you think it is a funny situation. I don't think this is funny. Okay,
I can tell you this. I can tell you in my house, we call it MR potato head
and we hold him every time we
say the pledge of allegiance before every meal. We don't.
Paved this liberal media pressure lake.
We believe what we believe. It's missed,
potato head: it's a man and that man is don rickles and
I can say this much Joe Biden once my vote and twenty twenty four. He will address this hour. I'll live
drifted. I want him to discuss this. I dont their televised, I'm eating
generous of you to think you should wait till tomorrow. There's a reason that we have an oval office it's for tonight.
It's like tonight. This is john. Where does it end? Where does it end? What's next to a trashcan voltron? Are you going to tell me the little robots that came together to build voltron? Were women listen?
I'm a normal man.
Fortys, and this is important to me
I just hope. I think it frankly deserves more coverage. So I guess
we have to make jokes, it's a comedy show, but I take it very seriously. Takes it, it's very honestly: you're you're an ear, the emotion that your expressing on really powerful. You know
Thing is the like the original potato head. Does anyone come with a potato you just got?
yet to bring your own potato, they gave me the bits to secure. The idea was it's like
the toy out of a potato, its remedy,
in time its remit
through its former? It feels like it from another era where you know you had a university nintendo, you had a potato,
and made them toothpicks? And you said:
this is a toy.
Is a toy for you, your mom sat there. She spoke to pack american said now, build a man
build a man out of this potato and shut up. That was my childhood. I
MR potato, head. My sister had a mrs potato head in the thing about
any household that had to potatoes head. They
become gender non conforming because you're mixing things together. Yes, Henry especially when you know my,
europe has a mr, as mrs peseta had. I am a gay child unbeknownst to me in and
you know she saved yourself: hey where's,
this potato heads purse I'll tell you where it is
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whom, amongst us, hasn't put
ask Helen. Had the body with the breasts.
Amongst us who hasn't had that. I also went on
Stand when eyelashes became something only female cartoons get up. I don't understand David. Damn about David Bowe. We solve this nineteen. Seventy three I dont know why we're still fighting this back. It's crazy! It's crazy! On monday,
Spotify announced the launch of renegades born in the usa. A new podcasting which former president obama bruce Springsteen, engage in personal in depth. Discussion looks like father
day came early this year.
I dont believe that I hear him in the ads. I dont believe he's using those meal kits
don't actually think he's
I really sound so convincing. I was very persuasive, as a figure is very charismatic, but do you really think he's making that stir fry? I don't know before we get started. I want to talk about mailchimp now
now. This is a service that
a machine. I use it all. Just let me go.
I mean, because there is a better way to have an email provide for yourself from the chains of big tech melcher as amazing that that was amazing for those listening broad gabon,
just wandered in and delivered a and add at the perfect moment was amazing. Do you think it's a problem,
that's brok, obama, and I have this danger. I got I like
I don't like that for him. No, it's good! It's it's! It's it it! It shows that you know he's just like a regular guy. You know you guys podcast the same from the same time
room. I imagine in the end, I think it's just a bit bring
come down to earth a little bit andrew
and quite frankly
Raises you up to a higher level, so I think this is. I think it's it's good luck,
he knows.
Occupying the same space as jargon that as Joe rogan
I think, though I be one thing that does, I think make it feel like it makes sense, is that we are both doing this from different rooms on richard branson's yacht
you're a breath it I'm on David, governs yacht right now, that's crazy! I just got my own differing yachts, radio, celebrity vaccine. I just got it at school, pretty exciting school, I'm happy for you. Thank you
the right wing conference CPAC, which announced this year's theme, is america and canceled cancelled the guest speaker t bag said this is real. This is a quote
We have just learned that someone we invited to see pack has expressed
reprehensible views that have no home with our
friends organization, and then everyone said: can you be
specific and then see back said, the views were anti semitic and then everyone's. How can you be more specific
turns out to be young pharaoh, who said
very anti semitic things, but forgot to create just enough plausible deniability to get away with it. You
column, global finance years, dude said: marjorie, taylor green, you gotta put some space. You gotta create some distant
first of all the facts,
disadvantaged young farewells, ridiculous. His was a phantom.
Tat S, an outcast member, so funny doesn't amazing Denzil. So that was a wrong
be among all conflicts? Didn't I don't really want to go there just because I am speaking at sea pack.
This year. I'm that I am guiding. I was going to ask to plug it at the end of the show, but we'll just get it out of the way now
during the panel yeah during a panel with us. He knows
ashen. Gorka yeah, big, big, big
cat bigeye tuna panel with him and the cuban on viking yeah. That's great! That's I'll! Take it
later for three hours banning will be done like a half hour. It's all about how Collins
happening, created careful culture
it will be moderated by tiffany trump and
tickets are still the email I got was readily available.
We're gonna be streaming, and it's going to be pretty off off the wall.
So I love you gotta check it out. I like these
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and tyranny. Tromp who will
leave she's at a gay rights event,
for some reason: animate tipsy still,
from that events there doing a panel at sea pack. It's just catching up. It's been
locked out three hours. I it's a little concerned. The only have thirty hours with thirty minutes, where the conversation in them check that we really need to move tickets, guys matchless,
is a family friends and
He gave me this slot and I don't want let him down our families been friends
fears. We met at a conference for people whose last names sound like diarrhea
and I have to say that, like you can't see this obviously, but he has a on what seems to be coming from a bachelor party says the batch labourers.
That's what his t shirts as right now, that's right, shirts as out seems really like a friendly sums are inside joke since era a barren halts slap
inside joke. That was a little. I was like his fiftieth birthday party. We all got. We all want to time. We took a time is grey kayaks, russia's
hermitage museum is involved in a growing scandal. Actress the authenticity of some fabricate egg is called into question. Evidence has come to light that these so called eggs were not laid by magical birds at all, but instead crafted by skilled russian artisans. That's it
I don't do you know anything about faberge eggs. Do you know anything about them? Yeah, I I you know. I know what they are. You know, but that's it they're, like beautiful, they're, beautiful,
How many of them do you think there are in the world how many fabricate eggs total the world? I'm gonna say three thousand it's like fifty fifty
yeah, I as a kid like savagery, eggs and quicksand,
are something that are part of the childhood imagination in a way that disappears into adulthood. I didn't realize there is only a couple dozen at the things everyone's oars. I got his fancy. Is a fabric J egg in the car?
and that I imbibed as a child. You were raised in the eighties. It was risky business and three amigos and those are the two. The highest stakes, most terrifying things it makes perfect sense, makes perfect sense. Quicksand is not a real thing. It literally doesn't exist.
It's a quick yeah! Are you? Are you a quicker you work for quicksand? I don't work for quicksand, I'm just here to tell parents it's totally safe, there's! Never been in the occurrence that your kids can play in it, and you shouldn't be fearful that you're going to get sucked into some vortex. It's fine brought to you by the cooks on console. That's what that's like alright! This is
but lady gaga, as french bulldogs were kidnapped at gunpoint entered
Walker was shot, gaga announced that he is willing to offer five hundred thousand dollars. No questions asked in return for the dogs,
obviously awful not making light of it.
But I saw that- and I just want to say no
and ask
Doug hooker was shot. We should get to the bottom of that. I want to throw in a thousand dollars on top of it, but my caviars I have a few questions,
I didn't want to get to the bottom of it a little bit. It's terrible who the hell does that
it's insane, but
I have questions. We have questions we have
questions and oldest male gibson? Yes,
I got it is a personal friend of yours. I don't get it right on good friends work together in the passion I played the elder, the elder, whose like giddies him. That was me. You said
You kill em used as the one hears the betrayer. That was my exact lights. Wow really good, showing newsman chilling puts you in it, but you and it makes it feel real begging
not doing it in the aromatic for not. But anyway, I look. I have problems, we have prompted no gifts,
But I draw your memory to have to the film ransom where men
gibson goes on the news with all the money the kidnappers demanded and says, fuck you kidnappers.
Monies for anyone who wants you down. That's the energy I directed dog thieves
Oh, my god, I want them to be as nervous as garrison, east and act to. I want
to be sweating bullets and worried that aid.
Any person is coming for that hundred percent, that's right
The wisconsin base defends contractor Oshkosh has one account
as to design and build the next generation of. U S, p s, mail trucks, Oshkosh is best known for their heavy duty. Military equipment and baby
purse that's what they do
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That I caught the tail end of it in the nineties at eleven of confidence to really kind of pull it off in haste.
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I've seen a lot of women. Where am I met someone worth standard
for a guy to pull it off. You got.
Really really have like great parents,
like a really instilled in clay, because there are some overalls innovative. You really have
If you really are cool
you won't wear a shirt under that wow. That is cool, that's like if you can pull that off. You're, like a god yeah, I know I don't have that in me me either. There are some guys that just look extra naked without a shirt
They certainly like. Some people don't make it. So we will look. Super naked
I don't want to see that what jogging it's not
well like it has nothing to do with body type like there are all super fit guys that just they take their shirt oven. It's no big deal other super because they look super naked. Just yes, actress, shailene woodley confirmed her engagement to green bay, packers quarterback aaron rodgers this week, revealing in an interview that not only has she never seen rodgers play she's, never
been to a football game
It's like a ronan has never listened to an episode of love it or leave it, not even once so we can basically say anything we want here, so I will say to you the anonymous source he's currently talking too in the living room right now. Right now.
Is: is that amazing cree gets a wild. What I've just shared with you
It is crazy. The shocking thing is that romans. Now that he's been on the show like I've heard him honor. That's
maniacal? Don't you think it's almost passiveaggressive and he's trying to power play you in your own home, ass master,
Maybe I don't want export him
who watches the watchers. You know
waiter, who watches the watchman there whenever grown, and I love you you'll never here. This is fine.
People other than that. I won't get in trouble police.
An army that got an eighty year sentence for killing a person after a two hour argument over which branch of the military was the best
Obviously, a sad day and the first official death of a member of the space force he'll be ejected
out of the side of the space shuttle in a giant sunglasses case, as is the case,
established in the
article film, star trek to wrath. Of course. Of course
and by the way, the coolest
the military. Everyone knows is gonna die
better. Now me, that's listen! I think
He settled not settle the matter with the marine original and the best I'm an army guy, maybe fuck off.
Air force not even a thing part of the navy marines
nice guys! Please don't kick my ass when they go to chemicals and I'll, say I don't agree. I have eaten,
respect for our the branches and your service now hit him again.
Each other less either. Whence that's how we do a baby? Oh man,
A florida official who set up a vip was recruited virus vaccines is under investigation. This is disgusting and poor behaviour and Ronan fire. Your
fucking agent. Why here who got mozilla? That's what? What? What vaccine you guys? What were you gonna? Getting? I get modern gonna get johnson
Johnson. What are you aiming for that? That's a great question. There has been a lot of, I think, deeply misleading reporting about johnson and Johnson.
This isn't even I know this is like the what the public health honcho once people
think, but I actually you know those hunters. I really like you
I don't give a fuck. Yes Johnson Johnson. They put a right here
put it over here I don't care visor great, any of them any
I'm holding out for the tesla.
Alone, is a friend and are now working on it and
You know he's actually really like down earth humbled. I actually a lot of people
think lake
super superfluities supervillain he's not these regular regular did.
It is a drain across
infusions every two hours like you or I do. He lay like a regular got and had a good people making fun of them, and I'm gonna take his vaccine and it's gonna be awesome. He put on his dream. Chrome one might get a time just like everybody else.
The normal person, and I'm really sorry, I think, you're right that tesla vaccine is gonna, be great. Princesses delivery expected MID twenty twenty three, but
right now,
paying for it? Now, I'm holding out it's going to be so cool? Oh, my god, people are gonna, be so jealous. When I gram me getting a tesla vaccine in my town,
Well, I'm kidding, I don't have a tesla one hundred and I do one hundred and you're sorry I do. I dunno.
Good appetite heard a very cold american guess. I wasn't.
I dunno is you to go, and your rogan when I bought the fucking thing
Nobody thought it was really cold. I had no idea that he was going to be like sounds like shit poster, okay yeah. I liked the idea
it in for my kitchen. I didn't I didn't. I didn't all of a sudden. He was going to become like JK rowling, like nobody told me see
mark, I make spaceships that's cool,
does that not all of a sudden sectors.
Atkins after I decided to do a too and then by the way?
jokes on me
What's it like to drive? No fucking idea, I don't go anywhere use of european money, descended yeah,
hundred five year old woman because of ours and said she did so with prayer in june. So raisins when news broke, big farmers said Joe
so raisins now cause twenty thousand chocolates.
I am laughing at that, but
I'm a family! Member of big
above my parents were how work for big farmers particularly think it's funny to make fun of a sector of the economy. That's doing so much credit
work right now, so I laughed at it because I thought it was funny, but I just think sometimes jokes.
I think that there's people on the other end of that truck, and sometimes those people you know are,
farmer, science yeah, I mean I just think like I didn't think you were. First of all, thank you for sharing that. Thank you for letting me reassuring. That and also
like. Sometimes you don't realize till it's too late- that, like your kind of punching down.
And I'm sorry like I always go. You know, punch right, punch up, that's punch down, you're a bully and like just gonna, pummeling
masud Nichols executives, yeah who's who's? That, for you know, I just think the best jokes are the ones that challenge power structures, and I don't think big pharma- has a lot of sway or power they're, just kind of like this mom and pop industry trying to help people so the jokes.
I get em, I get a robin fine. I know we're you'd, think you're telling me I don't. I don't ever want you to feel like you can look up here.
On having fun, but like you how you want to share that and I'm glad. I know that now make me better that that's all they do not want to become one of those people. That's like. Oh
we can take a joke. You know I want to say
want to grow. Also. We learn this week,
republican law makers have introduced two hundred and fifty three bills to restrict voting access in forty two states this year, according to a new analysis by the Brennan centre for justice, one state
it sees. No changes
in cinemas, state of denial about the fellow buster about that sophisticated joke.
It's a very sophisticated, you gotta know a why. There's one meal, Brennan houses on policies and earn that's your video bread, it's the neil bread and behold centre for just a few hundred. Does it all doesn't neo Brennan centre for justice in twitter arguments? Here's the deal, man, leg,
It's like just say what you feel and also, let's like not fuck with voting rights. Okay, that was good about that. Irish, it's irish, the seinfeld! That's all that's I mean just a plus
precious. Thank you and I got all the huge ones. Barack Obama. Neo Brennan recover jealous yeah, maybe like yeah. That's one thing like. Obviously I think at this point
impressions. Impressions are pretty jack.
Christopher Walken, everyone's got one.
As their neo Brennan. Oh, you got in here
an undue
on thursday, that an end is too good to resolve as disposition of advances, fathers, tax returns and other financial data. This was a long time coming and, of course, it could go either way, but I'm glad there's a chance. He'll finally be exonerated,
I'm I'm I'm programme now to believe that nothing will happen by
every time. Something like this does happen. It we inch closer and closer to the funny as possible and to all this, which is
Donald trump having to live in another country,
because I don't think he would ever go to jail but like if
He'd ever got really bad. I feel like he would just move to like.
Saudi arabia error on another turkmenistan us for somewhere, and that would be like really really funny him if he he had to be the first. U S, president too,
to live in exile like if you live in turkmenistan. That became like a mega hot spot
and people would be like going to go to ask about this year. Mr trump, it would be likely in the os. They would be so funny guys like yeah man, I'm from staten island, I'm a border for trump taking on my boat is running out. Caspian sea baby wanted the best in the world. I can just throw that shit.
I'm from new york city.
Love we'll never tried twenty four
world with repercussions. A thing came in the first
Then, at hearing over the january, six attacked happened this week in the capital. Please blamed poor intelligence will arrive at which is no way to talk about Josh holly, so insulting.
And a lawyer whose pants caught on fire during and arson trial was arrested on a cocaine charge rudy
I cannot catch a break.
In such a rough, is up in a rough go of it. I asked when ass a comment. Rudy said far now done
he was the basement. Rudy
like a five weak run where, like in the space of five weeks, they was embarrassed to getting generated
blow job. Possibly he had for
seasons, total landscaping. He had a press conference,
really heard. I was just seeping out of his head and then he was in court and he looked than he should his pants and court.
That happened. They aren't you in court. Slackened wants. What are we doing here? Malta was a baby arts
quite a dignity, sapping run
but he had so much going into it that it's just like. He has plenty left in reserve again. Also podcast hosts yet another person with whom I share a job
You feel like his podcast. It's a miracle of its ever recorded, like he's, could totally I've forgotten typical? It turns out it didn't, because china
ministry denied on thursday that? U S, diplomats in the country have been required to take anal swabs recovered nineteen following media reports at some a complaint about the procedure. This is discussing an abhorrent behaviour and wrote in what
I put that agent what s going on. Is there a list? We can't get on come on?
I'm just confuses the nature of this job. Why is it strange that you test for
there was an anal swab.
Because I was wrapped the tv show and I've been taken to test every day since october super and, let's just say, Gloria, that nurse and I have become
close and
I have multiple times went to my team instead. Are we sure this is the right way? I'm sure I shall be
I was, in my view, tennis at six eighteen in the morning and santa Rita, and they said yeah, so either
is big joke on me, or
a better job,
I think, you're being. I think it's nice that you're pretending you objected because I think the conversation. In fact, what
this hey ike we're gonna have to go ahead and give you an anal swap yes for cook, for growth for covert. Do not want to
right right, not! I know you're not gonna want to get that debt. We want you to tell me why you do it.
The streaming service paramount plus, has ordered a reboot. The tv series frazier and kelsey grammar has agreed to return to the title role: a reboot of frazier, I'm listening
Here's some questions I have about the frasier reboot one. How much denials
only to the lincoln project skill
did Martin die before he had a chance to tell frazier that it wasn't racist to like trump and to put a blue lives matter flag outside the balcony.
Will you be well since, coming over for dinner, rick worsened
that's funny scenario, denials. What are they gonna talk about animal, whereas in town it's a will it that? Yes,
What a little of that get
well then he she's, she is hilarious. Bebe Neuwirth should definitely be in this.
She's, a national treasure, maybe never question three does now get to be gay now and fall in love with glee, the ski instructor from the ski lodge episode, or are we going to
with this whole. Daphne thing
think of the japanese, still
it's a different time be free niles. I'm not! I believe the character is straight, but
the energy that is a gay
g and today
be a gay character caveats. Yes,
and what happened to eddie is
still with us. Oh adds, that's gonna be hard to
hi? This is the oldest dog in human history at all. They should do the cadet bob kardashian hologram for eddie, so he's
has perpetually running or happened
ok, I'm gonna! Do I'm gonna be on this now, all right, all right,
think they need to turn
frazier sat due at the nba didn't build a bob
where no one can leave them
the ukraine- has complete control, where'd, calcium, just use just driven from his mansion to set in and then that's it. That's it. That's all
over thanksgiving color protocol. Sorry, I know you're gay but need your phone or you can get it from the internet. You can get it from five g. You can't have internet by final question about the reboot of fraser. Did ROZ
and of getting a seven figure settlement from casey l after years of harassment by Barboza, briscoe and
honestly a lot of truly unacceptable comments from frasier crane, alright,
but the personal life of ross aright ran stood a lot of shit roger. You should down that station
they. She should really be. That's the moves to have to come back and be like the hard core boss who doesn't suffer fools. That's a great listen! I lots of grit years
we have two pictures gazelle your page. I love that ross runs the fuckin network, yeah ape the eight plus pitch. That's that's
gotta do that? I've got my other pitch freddy right. Little freddy, who is quite obvious
it's frasier niles type in the show. Yeah grown up. Wait a second. Is he the spitting image of his grandfather,
Have we replicated that dynamic between
frazier and Martin weir frazier and his son, Freddy, is freddy street wise
book, smartly, sour sour, sometimes also yes,.
Little obstreperous, distempers slippers,
There are three things she roused the boss. The grandson is his grandfather, hologram dog. Let's go
now's is gay. Thank you, parent hopes. Were you forgive me, but that was also
come back.
Not too chaise around. This was so far so good to see you
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Could I alone am we're back? He is an author of journalists in three time new york times best seller, three of them that's a year baby at had trick, I suppose,
chaser honour what is up my beloved john love. It thank you for,
making the time to talk to us. I wanted to talk to you first and foremost, because look I'm a huge fan of your tweets are right. He dined early lakes lie
but you've, you've tweeted,
through this historic storm and the power outage and water problems that are
Well, how? How has it been for you to be on the ground through this and how
family through this period of disaster
about the texas I storm, whether to our as others have said, I am going to make sure we can identify. The golden gloves have talked about the novelty emily in paris and am snub of I may destroy. I just I just want to make sure that we were both targeted by the same terrible thing
storm. Was nuts dude like they told us it might snow a little bit. Am I get,
whatever, and then I went to sleep.
And laramie woke me up the next morning and she's.
It snowed for real for real
I looked out the window and there was like actual inches of snow and our back. I've never seen anything like that. It was cute fur like ten hours and
after that stuff started going real bad. It wouldn't hurt
For us we lost water for a couple of days, but then we knew I had a time is gonna happen. So we did. They, like you, know, fill up the bathtubs use
one or two flesh, the toilets boils
snow if you need like dishwater whatever, but
loose power and none of our pipes burst, which was great
but like some of my homies
my buddy who believes downtown had a pipe burst in his house, earn his apartment and just like
did everything lead,
his family there in Houston they lost power and water for like four or five days there, just
it was awful. We we we, we just
not built for that, and that's like a philosophical statement, but also as a practical state like the houses are not built to wits
natural was. It was
over there that first day and then after that, Jose I this could get pretty bad pretty quickly. So obviously, part of this is that it was something texas is in built for in ways that makes sense. It also is a manufacturer crisis in terms of yes, what's happened with tee and
great the way republicans have managed the state?
this moments
as even as the disaster was unfolding that there was this quick propaganda campaign that popped up to blame.
Basically, I see in the green new deal with how
Shhh responsibility do think people and taxes are putting onto their leaders like how much of this do, you think, will follow abbot, follow texas republicans as this as you kind of deal with the aftermath,
I think it's going to follow them.
Only the amount that the terrible things I've done so far have been following them like that
People who know are the people who know, and maybe we get might like you're like a few more people enter.
Stand hated, this happened because of these people in china.
Right here.
It's like a very hard thing to spread around like
I only know about it because, whatever I listen to two shows like yours or on the internet, will they have a thing, and I read those cause, I'm on the internet all day long but like my parents had no idea like to talk to them about this or like other people in my family.
This is not a common knowledge thing. I, who knows about the fucking electrical grid of any state,
it's like I didn't. I didn't know until this happened. You know what I'm saying yeah so one of the most important parts of our lives, and we don't talk about it. We don't pay attention to how any of it works and
one shocking thing for a lot of people who
either only lost power for a short time or didn't lose it at all, is suddenly they were getting these wild electricity
the air
so solar we're waiting to see. What's gonna happen there, they disable in san Antonio or the one that were under anyway. They disable the auto pay. So there
You know, you're gonna get the bill first and then there like working
a way through it. I guess
I assume on their side they trying to figure out. Is it worth the money that will make to
bells because
can you do? How can you fight that? You know I'm saying yeah, they just shut the power off and there's no way to win.
Remind me a lot of what happens with these surprise medical bills. We're hungry ass is hopefully I mean we ve got these producers
chairman in one house committee, whose seems very interested in protecting the insurance companies in a state, but
you're in a car wreck or urine, you have a heart attack your unconscious. Your brought an ambulance to a hospital. You get treated there, not in your network. Yeah.
If you add any choice in the matter, you need in the middle of a historic storm and ear
You need electricity to live and suddenly you get these while bills. Yeah
and that's not even an exaggeration, like people froze to death with? Does it
breaking sorry that eleven year old kid who froze to death in the trade like what
I do, and why is this? I think the medical thing happened to me and laramie when she had the when she had the twins and we got the bill and it was like twelve.
Thirteen thousand dollars that we were spoke
responsible for I was a teacher the time
I'm making making eleven hundred dollars every two weeks that we can
even afford, like a normal bills
the ban? And we would say well, there's a thing: that's never gonna get paid. I guess we just china.
Its second go to the hospital and enough. Yet what are we doing? What we do and what are we doing here
one one last question on us: did you think it
possible to hate tag? Crews? Even more do? Did you know? I recognise that it was possible. I did not either. I thought that I had dug to the bottom of that whole and it turns out there was
sixty more feed of hate and they're, just every single bad thing. You could do or say here
done in the last two weeks, you thank you
each the bottom. But actually that's that's just a piece iraq. We can blow that up. There's more take crews to hate underneath. Have you ever seen a movie called cube? I haven't. I haven't it's a horror movie, these people wake up,
and these in this room and whatever
Thus the quick summary is this group of people and then and there in a room and
trying to like escape
wall of the room has a door and some.
The doors you go through lead to your death
and other ones led like to us
if, whatever their basically inside of a giant rubik's, cube, that's moving around and
go for like two hours, trying to figure out how to get to the beginning of the end of it,
at the end of the movie. They realize their right back where they started. Like that's the that's hate for ted crews,
my heart. I think I'm at the end of it and it turns out we're just gonna start a baby.
Of the doors lead to cancun. Yeah huh. Did you see? Did you see him today? Making jokes like orlando is great, but not as good as can't get what what what whites are. Now
look we're ready to joke about it. I don't know that we are ted know. I don't know what time you're getting the room. I don't know that you're reading the room and then he's like doing mask material that yeah mike mask.
It's appealing unappealing them
so obviously is very serious, there's something much less serious. I did want to ask you about, because it's been baffling to me please
Apparently, people are spending a lot of their hard earned money on gifts, gifts. If you
topshop option baby. What the
what types of so,
so you bet I a picture
big picture of like a basketball player dunking or something of that nature, mind, and it has a bed. It has like it's a crypto currency of some form, correct
there's going on correct. These are highlight this basket: violent, listen,
want to preface this, I'm probably
spain, a lot of this stuff wrong, but I'll get the general sentiment
right? Ok, it is. These are basketball. Highlights that live on
blockchain. So there
serialized they've got they've got number
there's only a certain amount of them and it is
in a sense
digital version of collecting basketball cards? That's what that's, what it is, and it's
lot of fun to participate in, like
I just did it today. I just got an I got in a digital line today they really
they release like new packs every so often you have today
like the button. As soon as they release a pact, you get an align john
two hundred thousand people in law
digital line till I try to get one of the pact's that they put up for sale for a hundred dollars each
particular back was a hundred dollars because they got you know you get a chance to win a rare whatever whatever, but
If you get one the pact's you click the button you get. Some cars that are in their digital cards highlight and, like you, click the thing
it shows you whether highlighted and then it just like you stored on you're on your phone or your crypto wallet whatever, but it
find a participated so that you can share it. You can like senator the group tax. You can share your own, I'm on a group text. One of the guys on our group text was ever.
Get in early
t one a one of the packs and then he's like sending videos and we're all celebrating and being excited about it, and then it's like the luck of which ones are in your pack, how cool they are exactly as I got a b and then you have a really good card exactly if you get a really good one they're worth you, you know,
medically tens of thousands of dollars, one hundred thousand dollars for a zion. It's highlight or whatever it's fun like it's a silly thing. Obviously it's
the thing and obviously very quickly been
it until I get an asset, a
center whatever, but wasn't like for those listening for those listening
If anyone in your life is up up up, I'm advice is to treat a animated photo as in another guy now you're gonna talk about my aren't. I'm telling you there's a better: do you gyre never lacked any like cards or anything I've? No, I don't have the discipline to collect anything. There, ve been
collectors around me. I've seen beanie baby collectors. My father collected baseball cards when I was a kid, was a huge surge of baseball cards and I remember
had lots of them lots, you know you would buy, you could buy like it would be
like a cardboard box unmarked ahead, like the full slate of maria from that company,
lots of those
Then I remember, for whatever reason my father thought the baseball player Jim Abbott,
Who was, he was one he thought he was
coolest didn't. I was amazing right over one handed and it isn't me, there was incredible to watch
man pit. She would he wood pigeon.
Throw the glove in the air and he was like a very it was. It was awesome.
For whatever reason I believe he decided to buy, I want to say I dont know exaggerate. It is certainly hundreds of Jim abbot.
Spock aren't as like an investment, but I love you. May I love you two thousands, however, there was a there were sea would walk.
There was a boiler in the basement and you go through the boiler room, and then there was a little closet and in that room there were three things. There were not a suitcases for trips if large,
near winter coats and they were made,
our hearts and Jim abbot?
genetic out, and I wonder what happened. I wonder what happened to those Jim abbot baseball cards. I may ask
to find out? Did you
If anything, you should absolutely yeah. I do collect the basketball cards. I've. I've done it. I did it when I was a kid and then I got older and there's like a different version of them now where they are they're graded. Basically like somebody who looks at it to see how good it is and then give it a score, and then those are the ones that sell for a lot of money but
I bought some basketball card has been a big boom the last year and a half
or so I
some before the pandemic started. My buddy Josh labour was, I tell me, hey by some these get these get these. What
So like I bought a luka doncic rookie card at the time,
It was a couple hundred dollars and then
the play ass I like looked it up is
nine thousand dollars. I hope your
the collection is one card lighter it is, it is not it isn't that I'm holding onto it, helped it I'm old and onto it in case who knows disease or he's early in his he's early in his career, but that
this is it. This is a digital version of it
the a thing in the world. It's just trial of every eye,
I was there for guy there is. I have magic, the gathering cards,
you gotta do tons of em, but those see that
because I'm more magic car.
Helped you make a better deck and you are always looking you know you don't want no different than I was just sounded, so so the difference in fairness in fairness, the difference is your building.
If you get a deck that has like a kimbra, it was called. The black lotus have been called the black lotus golden lotus put in the comments, but
was a special kind of indiana that you could tat. It was three different kinds of mamma and one, and if you too,
at if you had that it was incredibly power.
For it, was really value because you could buy it to build. Your dec
I don't know what I'm defending it up. Why am I divides us?
I don't know what I'm saying like. If you like a thing linen
The thing you like especially right now, special
right what for twenty minutes, we would all texting to see if he was gonna get his pack up in that line. I was like number seventy five thousand or something- and he was
eleven thousand and I think they're, like ten thousand eight hundred packs available. So we were all you know we pins
Hopes on on MIKE Mike us again
we bend ourselves like in any gotta. Do we celebrated this one? That's awesome, thats, awesome, good, good stuff. I need
gay version of this like on a one that, whatever whatever kind blockchain verified gifts from LISA cooed rose,
come back there you go about. Would worthier me our four forty thousand bucks automatically
If you get the one where she's dressed up like a giant muffin, then via chaise toronto, I'm glad you're doing. Ok thanks
Talking things were given us an update, and I again soon always,
Thank you. So much shaver being here, we come back. A listener joins for game about the golden gate.
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Emily in paris snag
multiple nominations. Over shows like I may destroy you, but anger
the globes is nothing new. It is a yearly tradition or
every year. People point out that the choices made by the globe seem radically.
Out of line with the general critical consensus. There are deeply weird picks in there
not like hey. We discovered this like like global. Do just some. Ah
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and most of this has to do with the group.
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Would foreign press association and the golden
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different than the other award shows and, while you know, look to have
fish to fry right now, yeah. We do we do, but I dunno
to talk about the golden gloves, and here too
in game with us is far far hi nice to meet you yesterday. Use it out thanks for being here, do you watch the golden globes? I watch them days later and I see the highlights clips on youtube. That's the right level and you like cinema, I do. I do great
so we're gonna quiz you because we
They give you gotta, tell what's real and what's facon about the hollywood farm, press association and game were calling
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They should have been nominated for golden global nature, probably not the watches.
When Denzil Washington, one the cecil b, demille word award from the goal.
In globes. He said the following during his speech. Some of you may know Freddie fields the producer of glory. He invited me to the first hollywood foreign press luncheon. He said they are going to watch the movie, we're going to feed them. They're going to come over. You are going to take pictures with everybody you're going to hold the magazines, take the pictures and you're going to win the award. I won that year. True
yeah I love them. I want to tell him that story
gary- has for best
Your golden globe nominations for the mask how they
reinstall christmas, the truman show and liar liar well has often trip is good,
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claimed quote age european members abuse their position and engage in unethical and potentially unlawful deals and arrangements which amount to a payola scheme. True
true, true.
In twenty fourteen gary oldman said this. In an interview, the hollywood,
foreign press association is fucking, ridiculous, there's nothing going on at all. It's ninety nobody's having a wang everybody's, getting drunk and everybody's second up to everybody, boycott the fucking thing. True, yes, an far of four years later, he won a golden globe. Was it for the darkest hour? While, let's see if it's twenty fourteen, he gave the interview twenty eighteen that checks out now. That sounds right. That sounds right. You know your shit.
I just wanted to be, but I do want to keep it that way. I keep it yeah that that some louis up today, it's I'm louis that's up today today. I love that I love that and
I see here in our chat from Travis. Your correctly was the darkest hour. Let's get another ding bar has earned another dealing in nineteen. Eighty four arnold towards nigger was nominated for his role as a pregnant man in the movie junior. It is true,
I haven't seen that film. Since it came out, I have a feeling that the gender politics of that film are very bad cold out. I think they hold up you need they hold up. I'm
yeah
in two thousand and eleven, the movie, the tourist one best picture yeah that was wild. I was amazing. Sorry, let me interrupt with one correction. It turns out. No, the tourists did not win des musical comedy. I remembered was so sure that, if one- but I think I was miss remembering just the idea of it being nominated
it's being shocking. The nominees for best, musical or comedy that year were the kids are all right, Alice in wonderland, burlesque, red and the tourist, a wild list of films. The kids are all right, one for best comedy and not list tells you that, regardless of who won the golden globes chose violence.
Twenty twelve kelsey grammer won a golden globe for best performance in a drama for a tv show called boss. Fear
through got it into them.
In Kenneth Branagh was nominated for best actor for his role in wild wild west
Not it
twenty nineteen final question paramount paid for thirty.
A few members to stay at the five star peninsula, paris hotel, where room start at fourteen hundred dollars per night, while they,
visiting the set of a new tv show
recently nominated for a number of
old and globes, a joke
Emily in paris. I think it's true it is. It is that you got that one and Fora. You know your
I am ashamed of garry omens.
Great you should not be a shame. You did great you, ve won the game, farra, think it a great job. Thank you for playing at will
and its eye by knowledge is pretty reassuring cause I think everybody can. It gets that that's all a bit silly and the fact
Gary old men could shit
on the golden globe so hard and then, when one four years later, tells me that might be
was not closed. For me,
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believe it or not as
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crashed along with it. When everything I was going to ask you and some
opening. My document on a laptop that has no meaning to you well
understand. You watch what everyone asks me and that is because
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I'm not going anywhere.
Finally, we would say you so much for being here. I want to start with
It has been on my mind. Why are you doing this show? Why are you talking to me? Someone told me to show my ted
this guy's really good, because I figure there was three possibilities. Either someone told me I was ok,
you think, I'm John loves from Saturday night live or you're just saying yes to everything. Well, now I know you're, not you another church, I am I I do not say yes to everything
someone told me you're, really good budapest,
I actually cannot recall, but
Could I didn't not tell you how much I appreciate that
I ask you because you I will you talk to carry switching from the times and you
you. You talked about toni, morrison and, and you said something that I thought was- was quite sad that in in the final days of her life, she was glued to MSNBC. Because of
our collective obsession,
the news over the last four years. Can you
just a little bit about your new
consumption your habits. What's your mind, is the the right level of
crisis consumption, given everything that's going on in the world,
My wish that with tony had been just four days to provide it was like most of the trump administration that she was alive for
to me, that was horrible, because his so stressful eye,
definitely reduced my use consumption because trump, not the president. You know
I have lived through an I'm with people now called her, but what I would call old and I'm telling you there been
Here's in my life, why paid very little attention politics, because I'm not wholly,
a political junkie and show their peers
instead are more pacific, where I don't have to keep monitoring the news. Of course, we don't have to monitor the news, because we think if we keep watching it will change in some way, but it does it shows. You know it's like if you keep asking the flight attendant. When are we leaving you're not in charge? He doesn't
but I think that I have been able to consume less news because trumpets, not the president,
No, I know there's a lot of horrible things going on. There always are these take on suppression, and that, with this to me, a tremendous relief
You know what I'm really worried about is the media. You know who invented trump and who keep mentioning him, bringing him up. I think because it right,
because now we have a whole generation. People, not me, maybe more than one
we should now like four months recent partridge easy endlessly exciting.
Kind of silently emotional, and that is not a good thing I've.
He'll conflicted about this. It be nice of power.
We're boring again and I think we're seeing
I believe that it is through some on media withdrawal.
They don't have this big, dramatic, chaotic storm to cover every day, but at the same time there was
good in it? If you agree that there are some good, then, all of a sudden everybody was paying attention. We had more people, volunteering more people,
caring about the role
could play in politics. Do you agree with that now
I am sorry to say I don't mind. I agree that that is true, but it is
True, because, all of a sudden, we had a million more altruism people, it's because people being attacked the country
is being attacked by the president every
single a group of people that were not from supporters were conscious
being attacked, undermined and should be more trying to defend the things that they,
about, or things said in fact centrally import into the country so would be better if the
I do not feel like the president was attacking this. Isn t show you oh yes, it's good that they will be involved in politics is especially good bad. You know, people understand the politics which some of it is just boring. Some of it used to be called
It is true that you know people seem to have no idea at all. What actions in the constitution these people mainly seem to be republican senators
You know I think it's very good when people act as opposed to just react
It was incredibly reactive era.
One thing I've been thinking about. This was from a review of your book.
In nineteen eighty one. This is from a review of social studies and it says, among
Things ran, liebowitz doesn't like dogs, children, the rich, the poor, los angeles nature, algebra sports, castors freedom of thought, the early nineteenth century nonfiction novels airlines Esperanto. Just by the way
heard esperanto in awhile and brunch. She obviously has gone too far at first of all,
amazing. It's amazing that you've
four hating things for
forty years I think sometimes you get tagged as a misanthrope.
But you're more of a curmudgeon
Do you agree with that distinction and
and do you agree that you're that you're a curmudgeon not a misanthrope? Well, I agree, I'm not a trope, I was instantly called or commissioned and when my first book came out, I was twenty seven. Okay, I did that's fairly young.
Right away people reading. What we have here is a young curmudgeon.
Very startling thing because I guess conventions are supposed to be old, but of course, this sort of thing you grow into. I
we don't think of myself. Motion
I'm accused of his being negative, ok, show you know. I've never found myself as being negative. I think of myself ass being a realist during cooperative
We have had many protests in every time. They called to tell me my results. They say
no failure negative, and I always say I know that I know that
my entire life people to be saying friend, you're, so negative. Some of these things
when you read me, which luckily I dont remember it was used for nineteen eighty one and then I trow by the way you know I do not do so
children, in fact I've written how I like children, but it doesn't fit into people's idea of what a curmudgeon is.
Esperanto is something that comes up infrequently minded ah well
I think it's a vicious circle right, because you become known for hating things, and so everybody loves to ask you what you hate. What is something you just
recently you can define recently on any time scale. You'd, like that, you love,
new passion summit,
interested in you dumped me.
Um well see that's the problem friend. First of all, I don't mean to criticize you and who advertise to me is a very lovely man, but the word passion is really overused
I bid. Everyone is passion about a passion people describing since your passion project
people are loud now, capture, shepherd careers, it'll, very plainly,
I do this for money and then, on the other hand- and I do this for art. Well, I have good news for you, you're one person or you're the other, so you're someone who does things from money nothing
along with that, but on the other hand, nothing like with it. So I don't know
have any new passion, and if I do, I really none of them were spring to mind. How does one
I doubt that that was an effort to see if we could find something positive and you attacked the question.
Concept of passion I dont think of this tax? I'm just answer your questions automatic agnes! I know
so someone said this to me about a famous musician. Who is
wrapped in a kind of permanent adolescents in his behaviour that you stop maturing when you get fired,
that, however old you are when you
come a celebrity. That's it you're, baked dealing
it's been true of the
celebrities youve dealt with in your life, it depends what you become famous
when you say musician and if you're talking about a popular musician it all. That would definitely be true, because popular music is young,
if the people making it our old, you know is young nature, young
You know what you see now that we have. You know people who were rock stars, you know for fifty or sixty years and some of them keep trying to act like they're. You know twenty. When the facts are seventy or that is not attractive. I agree because popular music is largely about sex. You know, I don't care what people say it's about, but it's largely about
checks, and so it oh, that's u from that's what people should do when their young and I think,
Probably is true it in professions where people's looks are paramount. That's definitely true, because you're supposed to keep looking the same as you look when you were twenty two, this is not possible. We can all see that you know. I think this would be less true.
Other kinds of artists. I hope you're not talking about people who are celebrities in this way. That has nothing to do with anything except a lot of people know who they are. I think that's true I I mean, but it's also true of people who are not celebrities, people I think, get arrested at their moment of greatest success. This is why you have fifty year old men wearing high school baseball, jackets or high school football sweaters. You know that was the zenith. I grew up in a small town
tell you that you know when I was in high school, then I sort of us old men, meaning like my parents age, would that point would have been. Maybe forty you know coming out to put gas in your car which they used to do. You know wearing a high school football jacket and guys our age would she'll talk to them. I remember that game. You know dishes you know to me.
It's basically shed was not a problem for me because I was on deeply unpopular and
success, one high school, which is giving me nowhere to go but up the avenue.
I am obviously have no idea what icicles like now accept. Apparently there are closed, but
high school when I was in high school.
Lots of ways I can see that still somewhat true for boys. It has to do with athletics. This was,
absurdity, hunger or when I was young now girls have to also participate in sports, which to me does not really
might damage progress. I know they want to do it, they should do it, but I am very glad that was not the case for myself
You know you are someone who has been well known now for decades
and you know I read that review from nigeria one I think you could write their there could be a similar review really
today about you as a as a voice another you have an adapted and changed, but that you kind of
to brand in your sticking to it.
A question that only someone younger would ask because
not gonna, believe this, because this doesn't seem believable to anyone. You know this is actually just who I am very few people become other people. Despite this constant idea that you, you know you, you keep changing like from a cat,
I worked on butterfly and then to an angel or whatever people think now, but basically this is
I've been actually who I am
tire light as or most people I would like to point out. This is not a brand did not oppose. This was
plan. This is just I am. I realise that it angers many people. I have to tell you. It's surprises me, the amount of time people will put into criticising people. They do not.
I mean I'm much about the internet, which I'm not on the agenda is one of the wonderful reasons and not on it. But since
the publishing it I wish I was
twenty one years old
fortunately magazine at that point. The number breeders will, I would should be positive- was like two thousand tops right away. I struggled
now I get a slip. It is you're gonna happen and my surprise that people don't wake me. I'm sure
that, let me assure you just pointed out there's numerous things I don't like there's numerous books, I dont like there's movies,
like the music. I don't like the idea tat. I would waste my time writing to those people
telling them how much I don't like it beneath that seems shirt. So my father won't eat sushi
do it. He thinks raw fishes now food, it
bade, and I say, but look look look at how many
people love it every day. All over the world people eat raw fish. No one gets sick, not only that it's healthy to fish, and he says it just doesn't appeal to me.
I am sorry that I'm gonna be the only the latest person to ask you about the internet. But-
Is there a possibility that
internet is your version of sushi. Now, there's nothing about it whatsoever and I dunno how you even came up with that, but
I keep explaining to people and no one seems to
leave me because otherwise they would just believe me when they first invented.
Computers that you have in your own house.
Were that computers were like the size of the pentagon. They were called word. Processors
and a friend of mine who screenwriter got one and she thought was.
Come and look at this thing is fantastic, so I went and looked at it, and I said this is just a very fast kind of typewriter and that's all it was. I don't know how to type. I don't have
The typewriter I dont, like machine is something new machines. I don't like it. I didn't
old machines. So you know I don't need this
cassandra her tight and
I am also you know, such a slow writer. I could write a my own blood without hurting myself, so I do not need this. Of course, I did not know the entire world would go in
these machines. How would I know that
show if you're asking me, if I had known that, would I have
dissipated in this I could say, may
but I still don't know how to type if it wishes.
You do on those funds, and it is true, so I know you'd. I understand that that that it got out of hand. You know you thought it was a fast typewriter and all of a sudden, the whole world's on the thing. But here's the thing you're famous, were being productive. Your actually famous for having writers block
what would be the harm in taking
one month and saying for the next month,
I'm gonna learn to use a computer and, if I don't like it after a month, I'll give it
You are passing stranger and say here have the internet. What first of all on very flattered that you would think it would take me only one month to learn how to do this: the cash
I am ashamed. Car should thank you.
Nine and maybe
five years ago, I learned had opened the hood show
rather than getting arrested at the moment of fame, I got arrested
last thing I can really think about. I learned how to do with dr show. You know, and these new cars like,
which are basically computers they can stump make. So I dont think that I want to do in the month. I dont really think about it. I concern
other people go that I don't have it in anger, other people, because they think it's something against them is not a stance, its preference.
Ok, I just get ready that, but it's not a preference, though, because it will be a preference.
I tried it and gave it up what are you
I dont know about these people talk about her time.
I'm aware of it with courses
the things people talk about it.
Somebody talks about a musical, they ve seen you can say it's your preference, not you have seen it. It's you
You are aware that you know the pros and cons, but like people could
scribe swimming to you, but until you go swimming you can't say whether or not you like it now, but I could
without seeing any musical, don't like it. So you could describe it to me. You cannot describe it to me. I already don't like it. You didn't see hamilton, I guess, except for I was going to say, except for hamilton you liked hamilton, I loved hamilton, okay, but the re. I believe the reason that Hamilton you know,
wired the positions it has is because how, unlike a mutual it is, I don't mean just not musical, but I mean it's really, unlike any musical I've ever seen. I went the night before it opened on. Broadway show was the last night of previews and someone.
Actually you know after what I think- and I should I was just shocked- that it wasn't annoying or added it's fantastic. It's really fantastic, but you know. Are you going to compare every music visuals to hamilton?
if not, I guess not be, but I would ask you, as a youth, you ve dodge my question, which is you're out of your questions. If I get a spend most of my life trying to learn how to work a machine that I've never went to work, my answer is no
but I dont know why I dont know why it matters so much to other people what I do
I don't know why matters either. I don't why I care. I don't give a shit what you do,
It upsets people that are friends of mine who, because they, I can't reach you.
You know you're, not home. I can't reach you and I think so what
felt at all during this pandemic. That I me look. I think this pandemic is a little is a little bit like. You know that episode of twilight zone where
Although the guy had just wants time to be with his book stated that it was his break, yet some tragic thing I've ever seen,
pandemic at all, like that that you finally have all this time, but it
not the way you would have wanted to go. Of course you know
waste. I wouldn't be grateful.
The deuce lie in the shop and read it out.
I didn't mean and show that for
A thousand people die
make sure the whole country
broke it. Oh no, it was not a good tradeoff. I have to agree.
It's interesting though I think some of the reason I think one reason people want to.
Argue with you about the internet is because they want
to argue in defence of how much time they ve spent on it. They want to
a case for themselves that the internet is not a whole
bad thing: it there are good parts that go along with the twitter meanness and influencers and celebrity culture. I think that's part of it.
That's part of it. It made
but I really think centrally. Here's what it is. Everybody now thinks every single thing is some sort of ideological
it out. So everything has to be argued for or against when some things are really just preferences.
I was speaking at a high school, which I do like once every two years and
hid in the audience, asked me if I like science fiction- and I should know not really this kid went crazy. He was furious at me.
He was like it. He was giving me the reasons why, how we did it and I firmly he said to him. I said I don't really like science fiction, though she disapproval,
I'm guessing you shouldn't licence vision
saying I'm gonna make a law against serbia. Science fiction is like asking someone you don't wish. You prefer
Chocolate vanilla it. It doesn't matter, you know, but every thing is posed as
it is a matter of life and death as if it's a matter of politics, you know. Sometimes you just nothin
whether or not I use the internet should not be important. Other people, I dont, think people
internet, which is everyone,
wrong. Looked most people in this country, russia, superbowl, I dont, want you superbowl
in writing. Fr shouldn't be a suitable balls. You shouldn't watches before it just means. I don't want you.
I am interested in this in an intellectual away because
here's my reason for being interested, which is their summing up
so appealing about the way you know yourself and our
I it in defending your opinions, your view of the world, but there is a part
mobility ability that you're wrong in the sense that why
learning to use the internet would be frustrating while getting
no a computer and becoming part of this world to be frustrating that, on the other side of that there'd be a man,
What were you realize that you liked it
that you realise that. Actually, you know what I like having this access to people I like being connected in this way, and I have been resisting it based on assumptions that turned out to not be true. That is totally possible, but the chances they will find that out are not great.
But before we get to we're going to do a rapid fire question, but before we get to that
Progress by friendly was
amazon says that the kindle addition will be published on September six, twenty
twenty two high
and how you feel about that deadline. First of all, I don't know
that on the internet,
Oh it's totally, not true that that book was due. At least I don't remember anymore fifteen years ago, so I dunno, who I don't know, who puts up stuff about me on the internet,
but it is not me that is not my publisher who I sure he was not wasting time sitting there waiting for the manuscript to come in and show you know I
at the edge of this, because I know who puts your stuff up, but it's not true. I can tell you that
I will say that when I saw that your next book was called progress, I did laugh. I do think that that is a very funny name for a book that has been stuck for as long as it has been stuck. Yes, well. What about me
friend. Thank you so much more time before we let you go on this, show, love it or leave it. We have a segment called the rant wheel,
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but there is a wheel and we spin it and wherever it lands. We rant about the topic because of you are our special guests. We are introducing a new segment called the front wheel. I have a list of topics here.
And I'm gonna, give you the topic and you can just rant about it say what comes to your mind. This
weak on the wheel, we have superhero movies, wellness bill de blasio, star wars, veganism, podcast, ted cruz and starbucks, I'm going to throw them out here we go superhero movies, I've never seen one.
Never seen one. I don't know I mean I only I would say is only a few years ago that in
frustration with a bunch of people. I said something about batman flying
Everyone looked amazed and apparently batman doesn't flies. I never knew that none of them
Doesn't phases wits he's a detective it with great wealth? I believe you, but I didn't know that powered by rage.
At wellness. Wellness strikes me as a kind of greed for extra help. You know
what people use it when people eat me, you said someone how they were. They said, I'm ok event, you're, not sick,
if you're not really need your not injured, you know, but basically, what is wellness just like extra help. I'm
sick, but I could be more, not sick. You know I'm in
if the condition, but I could be a more perfect condition. Let me put it this way. I don't think wellness is a topic say it in the syrian refugee camp right right bill de blasio. I have to say that bill de Blasio is the great uniter of this political era, because in new york city, everyone hates de Blasio, everyone,
people hidden poor people, hidden black people, hate away people hate him. Democrats and republicans hate him. He has shown
incompetent- that he is united. The city against him
you know I I may I interviewed him.
And I asked him if he thought there might be something when we see that because I think something quintessential about build a blog, you hate is how he,
six it out that being
red sox fan. Who'd goes in our two a why
far from his home to exercise. I asked him
thought there. There was something psychologically wrong with him that made him want to be hated, and
The answer was unsatisfying. Well, you know what I like
in the beginning, you know the first time ever from. I was very happy to vote for him. You know I thought of last year as a mayor paying attention to ninety percent of the city as opposed to bloomberg and pay attention to like half of one percent of the city, and he did this gracing this universal pre k. I thought he was terrific, so he should have gone
after. Like the first six months says it went downhill from there. What think the star wars? I saw the first star wars by accident truthfully because, whenever it came out in the seventies and came out, I used to just go to every movie show I went to star wars. I had no idea what it was about about ten minutes into it. I said to my friend
it's just a science fiction movie. She said it's called star wars. I dunno I thought. Maybe it was a fight between two movie stars. I dunno what I thought it was. We went to every movie, I was movie crazy, and so I did see the
whole movie, but I remembered and that's a west africa star wars which, as you know, is now like twenty science fiction movies. It's an industry
industry weighting of egotism. You don't really care what,
the people eat. I have to tell you you don't care. I dont think it said. I don't think it's good. I don't think you're depends how extreme people are because some
it becomes very annoying. You know I, as long as people don't talk to me about what they're eating. I don't really care. You know, I'm sure it's nicer, it's certainly
sure. You know if you're a cow, that someone should be getting a hum, but I just don't airbus podcast, you know I've, never
one I've been on them. I know that are to me. I could be wrong, but they seem like they're radio shows on the internet. That's what they are. No you're not wrong,
does radio show that the internet is the radio, but you download it and set about turning on the child. So I can get him ted crews hit. Greece is an era where you could hardly decide who is the worst for public health.
In the last few days he's risen to the top, although there there's so many horrible that the competition for who is the most disgraceful person in american politics, you know his show.
Intense said, I'm sure it a few days away from other horrible diet that at the end of it I d.
At the end of this.
That I was actually almost appreciative.
At a time where we can't go to restaurants, we can't go to the movies that ted
whose gave us so much entertainment of doing something so profoundly stupid. I sent you skip it. I mean, I don't know
it's very much about TED cruz's. You know personal finances, but he's been in office a long time. Where do these centers get money to live like this
Well, I think his wife works a golden. You know how I didn't know that show how right so that there is my answer
because this way of life is the way of life of which people you know go to cancun shapes he was caught for the weekend, bring your kids. I mean during this whole texas thing you know, which is
In this regard, I was remembering that in the seventies there was,
tremendous oil shortage in this country and in texas,
people drive around bumper sticker says sittings like new york phrase in the dark shadows from. I remember that today,.
And yesterday and what did you starbucks? You know what a cup of coffee is too costly dna
fish abrogated like fifty help.
Does it amazing thing that you d like to show you
people around the world to decide that a good price for a cup of coffee, five dollars,
happen. I dont want to brag, but I very rarely if ever to anybody,
but my call very skills I happen to me. He dashed coffee in the entire world. Show my coffee shops with it. That's the idea. I would think that coffee is over,
now. I know that one of the challenges during this time has been cooking at home. What have you made for yourself to eat today of cultural?
I'll make it I'm not thrilling but adequate dinner. I hate to show
The less great thing you know about them have reiser. What am I had. I don't remember work is that the open, the box, it's done
Do you have to worry about your friend? We need to send somebody. Do we need to send somebody to check on you and you mean food, wise
to say that your several people have
the four include
Daniel balloon who said that makes it in the saying
He is very worried about me. He ready, I said something about him or he read something I said about him and he would like to send me over some food
how many people do I limit, I said, tell him twelve, I have to tell you I saw that interview. I saw that interview and I thought that is the smartest thing I have ever seen in my life casually mentioning a specific chef by name and how much you miss their food
think that was diabolical, and I think I think you know exactly what you are doing here incorrect.
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