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Now run only underground in the bowels of a hidden somewhere under Britain, steel of a nondescript building. We once again made contact with our leader, as the market then show then Ferguson filling in four remarks, and I too is an event. Don't worry he's doing. Ok, it's not off tonight because of pneumonia. Everything is doing well he's tonight's! I just want to let you know that I'll be filling in for the next three hours and I gotta have you with us the media reporting it? This way, quoting a shocking move. Donald Trump has backed Obama my gun, control Ideas- everybody run to your side quickly. That's exact what the media wants to do. They want you to free
now they want me to read out. They want is to have a big all fight over this and get nothing done now. What did the poor? Is it actually say today on guns? That's the big question here: is president in his own words, we have to act. This time president Tromp promised do gun control measures are on the way the first he professed is. The law makers from both parties gathered at the White House. I see some folks, don't say nice things about me: that's ok, because if you turn that into this energy I love you I don't care because he's there. I love you and you can hear how the media is ramp. Ms up these people hate me these people when these people hate these people in this person said this in that person said this and why We're gonna have a big war, because there's a large part that the media says they don't really want anything done on this day out.
They don't really want. Any of this now Diane fine signed today was at the White House, And there was some back and forth: they went back and forth and back and forth between these people in a very open, I guess you'd argue go, and this negotiation sounded a little bit like this, I think, is something we have to think about how we use so today, while giving a lotta consideration democratic, they were trying to force them into saying Woody sign a bill but you sign this or would you sign that die in fine site and others sitting? next to the president, having this back and forth conversation. The present was in there talking and having you know, conversation about this in and what's in this bill and what could have an impact, because I do think the present believes in one thing here, I think the press It believes in one basic thing and that this he does it Another shooting like this to happen, but let's look at the act
ideas that are on the way, People, and would they give us a false sense of security on guns. Now I need to tell you full disclosure. I've been involved in shooting. I've used my gun to save my life. I do not negotiate on the second amendment, because without it I wouldn't be here Irene used to negotiate because our founding fathers made it very clear second, amendment right does not say, there's negotiable. It is not so that we should negotiate on what guns we can or cannot have. It does not say. There are certain guns. It can be taken away from you on a Tuesday, but you might get him back. I a Thursday a couple weeks later now. The present today also said something else. It was pretty tough at the
ass. He called out of senator foregoing nothing at all, and he said in his words, quote you're afraid of the in our this curious as to what you did in your bill. We will address its present, but I think you're right you're right now, people it's a lot of people. A lot of people are afraid of that issue, raising the age for that weapon to twenty one again, as he said there you're afraid of the inner right now their people that are afraid of the inner re in Washington. Sure. I believe that there are sir people in certain places where they say themselves, I'm not gonna. Do anything. The interim doesn't endorse ahead of me the present, does that he wants to change the age to buy that Johnny.
Referring your nay our fifteen, from eight to twenty one. Now I think that an eighteen year old should be able to go into a store. By and they are fifteen when it. Not my hang until thirty one. That is a debate. I am willing to have key word a debate, but I I think that this is giving us a false sense of security, not give an example, the last twelve, mass shootings, last school shootings, the only person that was under the age of twenty one. Was their town, shooter and But no matter how he was twenty because he took his moms gun bitterly would not have mastered the her mass shooters I'll. Give you a great example: LAS Vegas. He was sixty four.
The dollar zone was thirty. Nine at Fort Hood, the crazy person averaging attack was twenty three, The shooter in Miami at the night club, twenty nine. The guy went into the church and started shooting people up and the church with twenty one? You go through this list of all these. Pass who been involved in these court mass shootings hand if we would have liked the age, twenty one from and that was the individual down in Florida. Now that doesn't mean that Florida couldn't about does it mean that he couldn't about another gun? Let's also be clear: he could about other guns. In fact, he probably but many other guns that would have a better. You would have been allowed. You have taken at the age of eighteen
My worry is, if we push to change, age, twenty one, it's giving people a false sense of security. When you the reality of the age of the people there committing these heinous crimes. It would not have an impact. The second thing is: is there when I eighteen years old, I there are a lot of a year olds live by themselves. There eighteen year old, move out their parents house, and you should have the right to protect and defend yourself, because you are legally and adult in this country at eighteen you didn't have to wait three more years to protect myself. For even my wife, if I get married at eighteen or nineteen or twenty or children, because I had a lot of friends and our kids before the age of twenty one usual. After way to protect and defend your family to say we're going to raise again age, you have every right to twenty one. Now, let's deal with bombs. Thanks for a second I dont have a I'm a bomb stocks being banned and here's why
That's not a heel, I'm willing to use all my political capital on for two different reasons,. The first reason? Is it's not a gun Zack as an accessory, it is not a gun. The second and it does not protect a bump stock. You I think that, above stock. Is a hundred percent a classic example of somebody trying to do a run around the law and the intent of the law with fully automatic weapons answer overwhelmingly is yes. Have I used among stock I've shouted denied by one? No, I thought it was pretty yankee to be honest with you. I thought it was kind of it. I just did it wasn't for me, if we have advanced, arguing, criticise you for that, absolutely not, but the eye here that we should die, over this. You know there is a real I'm going to die on, no pun intended. No when eyes, when I heard what the shooting and the rapid fire of the bullets on tv and the very
it came out on social media, the shooting and in LAS Vegas, as it will clearly have an automatic weapons. That was my initial reaction of shot automatic weapons before many times. Actually think there s they want to fund a shoot. I know not for sale because he has had a mass shooting, but you should be able to talk about guns. Can a railway you should be able to? talk about guns and honest way. This is a sporting events. For many, it is a sport. It's called sport shooting for real I enjoy hunting. I also join protecting myself. My families from the crises in the world that I've met and how to shoot at to save my life, My families from the crises in the world that I've met and how to shoot at to save my life. But these two issues right now that we have on the table these two things, is it they're telling me that if I don't agree with, I dont have a heart and I have said
or in a psychotic allegiance e in re. I disagree with the premise I dont believe that change the age of eighteen, twenty one to biogas is gonna. Stop the next cool shooter, I also humbly passing laws and stop the next will shooter and clearly there. We have issues with our government, which is the fact that this is one of them school shootings overwhelmingly that could have been prevented on the front end. We now know that this shooters family, the day his mother, died in November. The first call the police and begged the police to please come confiscate this kid's weapons because he said he was a potential school shooter and the police said, call the other police department, because you don't live in our district and nothing was done we know, the shooter said multiple times online that he was gonna, be a school shooter and people citizens above and beyond the minimums to make sure The third issue, one person of Mississippi not not only reported online but then said, I'm going to call the field office of the FBI in my area, and let them know that
somebody on my page said- he's gonna be the next famous school shooter and they did nothing. You know that people warn the local police. We know the local police had to respond more than forty three times to this individuals house, and we know that multiple test, Through the police, down and Brower County were told that this guy was a schools. You two perspectives, culture. They was gonna, be of culture that it was going to do some people. So why would I trust the government to somehow pass a law, that's gonna fix the issues. When we have all these different warnings, we had warnings and the local. We had warnings on a state and we had warnings on the national level he had warnings across the board on every level. They failed us now. Why are people losing their minds over that? I am not upset. So the gun debate right now, because I think we should be obsessed with the lack of
men, accountability, I'm upsets the fact, never sheriff that actually believe that he didn't incredible job. I'm upsets the fact that we have sheriff the walks out there and says I'm not accountable for the actions of my sheriffs, I train I gave my God and what they do with it after that is on them. So, therefore, shouldn't be held accountable and my job shouldn't be in jeopardy. Are you kidding me so I dont believe This gun debate- is even a real are authentic debate, I think it's filled with propaganda. Both sides. That are really irritate the media. I put it that way there extremists on both sides I dont want. Shootings to happen, I dont want Chris, if we were to have a gun, I dont want some might be going to store by gonna, be out of the blow up a bunch of kids and shooting point blank range or like they didn't the churches that happen intact.
And in the Carolinas we'll. Let me also be clear: I'm not a dominant person to believe that if you ban the age of someone getting a guy that somehow that's gonna fix this problem, when we For so many warning signs and we didn't stop it when it could have been stopped clearly in Florida, so yeah I am afraid of Democrats because I do believe truly they want to take away my guns, because every time they get a chance to do it, they try every. Tragedy. They try to take away my guns. There is a liberal who put up their online, it said quote, you're afraid we will take away your guns well, we're break, your guns will take away our children. We haven't can any of your guns. Your guns have tea. In too many of our children, whose fears are unfounded, that might be the most. Ridiculous liberal logic, I've heard all week this the idea that we should keep a score of how many gun
I'd taken from you compare to how many guns your kids took away they, weighing the guy now indeed you eyes, we don't blame, we don't when the car, when when this happens, and I tried to wait until some of that calm down. But I put up a list on my twitter account and I too, and I and I tried to wait until some of that calm down. But I put up a list of my twitter account, and I too, and I attended, because to me. It was an important point to make and because I said in a d, why we blame the driver and not the alcohol we blame the driver and not the car the driver and not the gasolene in the car, bombing, we blame the bomber and not the chemicals, not the pressure cooker, not the it's not the nails used in a shooting. We blame the gun And the inner re instead of the person
why the change and logic. Can someone explain that to me? I want to get phone calls tonight think we should have a very intense debate. After there's, a school shooting. But what I'm not gonna do is allow me to be manipulated by people I have no intention of stopping next cool shooting. They have every intention taking away my right to bear arms which again is not negotiable, not only to have the right to bear arms. I have the right to form Is not something that should ever be negotiated? because it said clearly not only the right to bear arms. I have them to form a well armed militia, which goes Far beyond my right to bear arms, that's how clear our founding fathers were about our right to bear arms that it was
just about me only got it was about. Maybe you ought to be a member of a militia which is the equivalent of a military to fight back against a government that might try to take us over. One, eight, seven, seven, three, eight one: thirty, eight, eleven one. Seven, seven, three, eight one, thirty eight eleven then forget filling in four mark of them will be right back back then various employment for the great one mark Levant. It's gotta, be with you this afternoon and evening all over the country. We're talking about this idea that I apparently spawn of Satan if I refuse to agree on quote
the media has now decided determine is is sensible legislation. I am Crazy person, if I dont automatically agree. To raising the age of eighteen to twenty one to buy a weapon. I'm I'm I'm Ironically crazy person I want you to imagine a young couple hang on their back porch. Trying to figure out their budget. Their young starter family eighteen, nineteen years old. And they're trying to figure out how do we take care of our family? imagine taking away their right. While there are young married couples to protect and defend themselves,
even though their responsible enough to sit on that back patio and figure out a budget ANA honest. Ec salary and they're taking care of kids inside and if someone comes into their house and banks in their back door, you, telling me that at that eighteen year, old couple does not have the right to buy a gun, to protect and defend themselves. You're telling me that that nineteen or even twenty year old, does and have the right to protect their wife and their children, but we Give them the ability to live on their own be married and we call them adults. They commit a crime we make them attacks is like it at all, What we say, no, we will not give you are allow you to have a gun. I am not willing to give up my second amendment right for something that stupid Ben Fergus. Filling in more coming up
America's tyranny Hunter call. Now, eight seven, seven, three, eight one, three eight one one Welcome back. It is a mark of ensure than Ferguson filling in a night for mark who is at an event, and the Good NEWS is these means doing well. Many are you concern some of you married and three Emmy he's an event. He is not off tonight. Because a pneumonia want to let you know that he is doing well and I will be back with you tomorrow. Now we got a lot to chat about tonight and I'll start back with the core thing. A premise that has been laid out there for the last two weeks is, if I refused to agree to what
The liberals and Washington and the media have decided, is sensible, gun legislation, Automatically I'm an insane person, then I must Iconic, individual that wants to support an advocate for the rights. Crazy people go out and kill innocent children. The tooth things that they say that I cannot disagree with them on our changing the age and twenty one to eighteen to buy. A our fifteen or in fact any weapon, because if you notice they ve gone farther first, they threw out there about a week and a half ago that no eighteen year old should be binding. Our fifteen now look at where we are. We are now having a conversation in the White House today about them, all guns from being able to purchase you're. Twenty one. I disagree with it. I also its fastens obscurity, false hope, I say this early. You go back only last twelve shootings, mass shootings in this country.
Major shootings in this country high profile shootings in this country, there is only one situation before Fora where We have had any hypothetical impact on stopping a crazy I'm killing people. In that one would have been the new town shooter. He was torn at the time, the shooting, but again that one What no matter because he didn't got my began to use. He took his moms guns, so it didn't matter. Is the age was twenty one or forty one he'd invited the guns you took as moms guns now, you will get the shooter in Florida. He was eighteen. His own family members. Knew there was a problem. The day is mother died in November of last year,
of his cousins called the Brower kind of Sheriff Department and begged within two. Please come take away. His guns and said he was a threat to society and could be a school shooter. I said, call another department where you live, because now that he's living with you we don't have jurisdiction, and that was that they didn't call the school and say: hey school. We got a phone call from a family member did so this kid you come in and should have your school. I want you to be aware of that failure of the government, no one's obsessed with the media, the fact you have forty three interactions with as individuals, family and the police being called. No one is obsessed with that in the media. The factory hey, I was told in two different stage, two different times by amazing citizens at one above and beyond doing the bare minimum. Not only did they report that this guy was online, saying things he was saying about wanting to be a school shooter or not just wanting going to be a schools year declaring he was gonna, be his computer. They even pay
the phone and actually call the FBI and made sure that they got the information they send online and nothing happened. You have every warning that you could possibly asked for in the government failed us, but for some reason, we're now obsessed with government passing a law when they didn't even get it right. The first time in all the laws on the book to stop this kid from doing this heinous crime, because care more about pushing an agenda which is ultimately confiscate our guns in this country, and you after the second amendment, which is not negotiable. A political reasons wanna, go to your phone calls and I'm willing to have. I think we should have a healthy debate if you think that the EU should be twenty one to be I a weapon, call me and convince me why I should change the second amendment and I
to change my thoughts on this, I am willing to listen to you. Why seven seven, three, eight one. Third, the eight eleven one, eighty, seven, seven, three, eight one, thirty eight eleven. You can also tweet at me. If you want to get your thoughts in there Fergus ensure on Facebook. My page been Ferguson should now make straight to your phone calls the two crag things and long island you are on the market, then show been Ferguson filling in, and I go ahead good evening with the target and thanks for taking my car good its aren't. You gimme your take on this. While I agree with you and on one point, I agree that eighty year old should have the opportunity to protect themselves with gun if that happens. My concern is with the air fifteen and our fifteen's are designed to people and I'm again everybody from having the right to own and air fifteen you have brought up before
lieutenant one second name again: that's not designed to kill a person now, but we need, but there done better design for sport hunting like that, none of which- and this is important question name a gun for Europe, I meant to be correct. You're gonna have to name a gun that is purposely built to not kill a person. I there are there all done can kill That is true. No all guns do kill people what that Every caliber gun that has ever been made in this country has killed. Probably a person. Can you- and I agree on that. Yet we condemn I agree on okay, so the idea that an eight hour fifteen somehow is designed to kill people override other guys,
they somehow not gonna kill a person is, is, is the worst logic I've heard all day. So let me rephrase it here. Let me Emily phrases that an active is killing lots of people in little That's just now gave way we Craig Craig, that's, ok, look Let's just go: let's go with that large. You said that today, our fifteen is again because lots of people in a little more time, Happened with other guns: ok, let's talk about twelve gauge shot gun. At close range that semi automatic, without a plug in it or withdraw attached to it can kill lot of people in a short amount of time. Can you- and I agree on that- you ever but an I can kill more That's not true there's new, have no data Craig to back them up, except for fearmongering and buying into this idea that somehow, nay, our fifteen is more dangerous and twelve gauge shotgun withdraw on it. I would love to hear an interview with the cop. It did not go into the school in Florida and asking
He nervous about going and because he knew the person that it was my feeling had a weapon that with much more power on the one he was going and with Craig, You are assuming a hell of a lot tonight, I'm I'm I'm I'm! I want you and I agree Craig. Can you and I agree that that that that police officer was a coward? both agree on that right. In what way, renting, ok, it was there was a shooter and there he didn't know what he was. He had no idea what Gunny had in their current year again. This is the part where your logic is insane the pulling. Officer Petersen who went into the school that didn't go into the school, I should say, did not know. What gun was being used at the time of the shooting You understand that. You're, assuming that he knew that it was. They are fifteen being used, which is an absolute lie,
and if you guys, like my screen, froze of your pull Craig back up here. For some reason, I can't credit. You're, assuming that that police officer knew the gun it was being used, and he didn't know what Gomes being is. He had no idea, you were shooting to end guns or ashore gun, or along rifle, our thirty six and thirty thirty or twenty two. He had no idea what governments do we used with previous knowledge and knowledge of current events. He knows that are performed in other ways. Craig Now- you're stretching do or you're stretching now what avoid here, nor basically saying now that police officers have a right to not do their job, because there is the possibility that there might me- and I are fifteen and that's cool when a moment ago you were declaring that that police officer did not know and that's all because he knew and our fifteen was being used, which he did not know. You call them a cow. And he is a coward while the reason he might be more of a coward because he knew waiting for him inside and that scared him, then don't be a cop well
a woman again, Craig Craig. You do understand. The reason why I am not agreeing with you tonight is because you ve made up for different hypotheticals that are not In fact, you told me that happily scare because their fifteen, when you didn't know what the gun was inside You told me that they are fifteen at close range is more deadly than twelve gauge shotgun, which is also a lie. Plenty of- and you told me that they are fifteen- is again that goes out and kills people implying that other guns don't kill people. This is literally the reason why conservatives like myself do not trust people like you to read. Again laws in this country, because you have no idea what you're talking about, but I am behind United behind the second amendment,
clearly? No, you don't understand the second amendment. If you say these things, I have three police officers in my family that all own guns and have them their home and Craig that doesn't make you an expert on guns. You proven that tonight. No, I am not calling myself an expert on not coming near, not even an average you're. Ok, I'm not I'm not think calling anybody name. Let me you could only a simple question: do you own any guns? I do not any gun have you lie. Why don't I own a gun? Yes, because I have loved you, at home and I dont want micro, small children around around gun. Have you her own again before we had. I never have owned a gun now, but you they want to play a part of that later tonight. Can you just just pull that for me just just pull the whole dead gum conversation and that sums up my friends, exam.
Mr producer, can you just pull that call and we, I feel, like I'm gonna, want to play a part of that later tonight. Can you just just pull that form Just just pull the whole damn conversation and it sums up my friends exactly. Why do not trust the left on guns. You have an individual, doesn't know anything about guns. How they word. Mattel's reason favour the second amendment and then tells me that well, my dad's in law enforcement or my family, three family members by don't like guns and never had of I'm afraid of them, and I know the cat didn't go and because they are fifteen, when the car didn't even know again was being used thanks now that was really fun one eye. One in seven, seven, three, eight one Thirty, eight eleven one! seven, seven, three, eight one, thirty eight eleven then Fergus
filling in for Marco, then we'll be right back. Organ back, it's a mark of and show Ben Ferguson filling in misery. There's really! I gotta worry this one. This is amazing. I love. I love social media really do because I did I like the fact that Who can connect directly with me when they disagree or they agree with me, but the region is less this last week, then Ferguson Ear, the worst person in the world. You are so mean en route to the last collar. Who was telling you the truth, I was being nice like. I really was not being mean them that was me holding together? Instead of losing my mind, maybe by the UN's Joe, always it on a collar. But I was genuinely trying to be nice
cholera that was literally making, you know what on the air well. Didn't go into the school because he knew there was an air fifteen inside. No, I didn't It's a lie. Well, who is afraid that it could avenue our fifteen now he was just a coward. He didn't want to go and because, if there was any person in there that had a gun, he is a coward there's a reason why resign? he resigned because he knew he was gonna, be fired, so it can still get his retirement. That's why I resigned. Let's be clear one, eight, seven, seven, three, eight one! Thirty eight eleven back to this core issue, which is, I've been told for the last two weeks that if I don't agree with logical gun control, I am a terrible person spot of saving going to how and I support mass shootings. If I
refuse to agree that we should raise the age of eighteen, twenty one divine air. Which, by the way, has already now changed you just buying guns in general, There is one thing I understand about the second Mehmet very clearly. Not only is it real to be non negotiable. It was also written to make sure that I could join a militia, a well armed militia, which meant that a guns Didn't want me to just be ought to have. Twenty two, They wanted me to have the weapon to join a militia to take on a government. This was not something that was solely only about guns that people decide arbitrarily they like or don't like, The last collar, who tells me in favour the second member at least be intellectually honest with me and don't lie to me and tell me your favorite secondment when you're not you're,
favorite. Second them you don't shoot you don't like guns, you don't I'm in your house. You never owned one you're, not They were the second amendment when you're calling to tell me that you want to limit people from owning guns. That is not an advocate of the second amendment. Call me up be honest about what you are, the unabashed rule about what you are, I'm an anti gun advocate. I do Think anymore should own these guns. Least our respect you, but when you try to play this game and lie to me when you try to make up stuff all the captain go on, because I'm gonna blame the air fifteen in the inner. I know the cop didn't go into school could lose a coward. It's that simple caught did not now what young was inside that school, had no understood, no, no, no clue what gun within that school. We add thanks you're waiting you're on the mark of in then Ferguson, filling in a night. How I did doing good The second amendment right on the money,
I'm on it already endowment member, I won't firearm. Since I was a teenager, I really you're going to Hell with me, apparently so nice to meet. You will hang out apparently because we're both going to a bad place, because we actually like the inner rain or, in the second amendment that right, that's right. The second amendment that pig the first one amendment we have one eighth nation, there's a way they take semi automatic away is gonna, be a second amendment with no t that's the problem. Has caused all of these problems by taking corporal punishment out of school, taking prayer at a school taking the place of elite without a school. It's the left there, like school shooting because it furthers there again If there are no great nation, and while I email I have been asked one in an already working taxpayer better. This country's gonna get it the listing station worthy. Many think they know me back. No, the second amendment, these people well I'm a giveaway their rights for a little. Security when all they needed to deal with secure the school or something to account
This is not just again we're we're obsessed with the government ed protecting us I failed us why they are, if there's any time that Republicans in democratic conservatism level should come together. And agree on something it's when there is a mass of failure. This size at the local state at national level on predict prevent school shooting, this room was a hundred percent preventable on multiple occasions, multiple warnings and the state saying I'm going to do this family members calling saying he's going to do this neighbours calling saying he's going to do this anomalous tips coming in saying to the we are here going to do this. Forty three. Phone calls to one at the house where this guy lives saying here mentally insane, and they ever charge him on the crime. They never got a mug shut up and they never took him to jail. If a total failure,
government and that one of the reasons. Why are we in any way Essentially, the go ahead. The gun shouldn't even be in the gun, should be an after thought it. The gun shouldn't even matter, we should all be demanding that we, this think about it. You can talk about insane. Let's talk about this back then, the sheriff is. Still the sheriff s all this information came out because he was brilliant and said, blamed the gun, the and our aid, not me and people for it. How stupid are we then? First, civilian from article then we'll be right
now run only underground in the bowels of a hidden somewhere under Britain, steel of a nondescript building we once again made contact with our leader. Is the market then show then Ferguson filling in an eye for the great one? Who is an event? He'll be back with you to Morrow? Don't worry! It is not an issue with pneumonia doing? Well, I just want to make sure you guys know. That's you don't have to worry I'll, be back with you tomorrow. Breaking news, and I want asked communications director- Hope Hicks has resigned. I'm gonna get you more information on that coming up a little bit, but before we get to that cave pressure, the is exactly what you call this vexed sporting, and I'm not a boycott her. I want to be clear with sorrow
our job moving closer, for example, to killing down to tax breaks, and this in our. If I am not in favour of that, ok out point a little bit more. My thought process, In a moment. I M just not in favour of it, though I see but dicks sporting goods is come out and done and they can they came out a really big and can a bold way. And they said we are gonna, be you know, corporally we're we're gonna, be good corporate citizen, and we are not going to sell assault rifles in you any longer and the sea how came out and went on seeing a new day this morning and talked about how it was important ram to stop selling assaults our weapons, and it was the right thing to do, as That is why the nations large retailers, the exporting said that it will
currently in sales, of course, always outside rifles in stores. Retailer also said it would no longer so high capacity magazines and then not so long ago, anyone under twenty one years of age, regardless of the local laws. Now, let's be clear, the exporting goods absolutely has a right to do this. We must also be clear about this: the export goods is playing. The the the long game here are exceedingly the short game here not belonging to exporting goods knows, how many guns they sell and then again they sell eighteen to twenty one year old and it's not a lot so they're playing this, You're playing this to the moms of America who by a lot of sporting and stuff for their kids and they're, playing that the majority of their customers are not gonna, be huge secondment advocates. That's the reason why they decided to play in this way. They make
goes to play in this A on purpose that It was a bottom line decision that they look at and I'm sure he's who accompany these assault weapons. Are we selling? How much are we make per year. Can we make more money? If we have a bunch of moms come in here? Who are? until I got individuals but by sporting goods for their kids, and can we make a lot of money, Cosette lovers, and I thank you the business decision for exporting goods and they thought that there's. Probably some second amendment, people like myself that might be angry, but more than likely they're going to come back. They also wanted to ensure that they weren't appear nightmare with this decision. Clearly, where some kid came in and botany, our fifteen, their store committed, a heinous crime, whether and in that gun was connected, acted exporting goods and that are in every article in America. This is a hundred percent IP, our move We can argue that it was a cowardly pr move. This is not a bold big move. This was a hundred percent way, the
options here, the downside of the upside comparative profits. They said our stores can do fine with out selling you in eighteen and nineteen or twenty year old arson. Where's might even pick up market share for all of the other products in stores that we carry fair to the back left corner the store we have as a small section of guns,. And basically generic guns at that I will pick up market share. Now am I advocating the night for a boycott of the know. What I'm gonna tell you, is I'm not going to shop there. I'm gonna go to another retailer every chance I get because I go have any respect now for accompany? This was vague. If we truly believe in what they were doing, they would have done this after the last sitting of the shooting before that of the one before that they just bowed the peer pressure, the peer pressure- of the media and the fear,
unknown of what could happen, possibly with one of their guns, it might be connected vacuuming sold at one of their stores. And they knew they would be crushed now. Coward organization number two tonight. And you knew this was gonna happen. Dixon a bunch of good press today, because the meat, it is absurd from companies it stop selling guns and what what did Lamar announce moments ago, Walmart. Has just announced that they are raising the minimum age to purchase. Fire arm to twenty one, regardless of what the locals law say in their stores Walmart who will only sell guns and ammunition of people over the age of twenty one. From now on becoming in a statement Thursday that decide to review its firearms cells policy enlightened recent events quote going forward where
Raising the aid restriction for purchase of firearms and ammunition twenty one years of age, we will operator processes as quickly as possible to implement this change. Now again, Why did Walmart do this? They vowed to the pressure they did. The math how much money is Walmart, making off of selling ammunition to an eight ten to twenty one year old, not a lot? How many guns are they so in eighteen, twenty one year olds, not a lot wine Go in and look like in Poland are strings of the anti gun nuts in this country and the moms, and in the end, those are terrified of guns at know, nothing about them and make it like we did so insignificant, which this is not going to lower crime rates in the country. This is, I'm going to lower the death rates. In this country this decision- this is a hundred percent, to make us feel better that doesn't really have any impact in this country. If you don't believe me- look at Chicago, that's it most!
drink gun laws in America, enabling the highest death rates in America per capita. If not the I is actually there extreme restrictions on guns. Yet you Get your hands on illegal down on the streets of Chicago anytime. You want to add any age. So is this going to change this country, the answer's? No we're just gonna save a bunch alive. The answer is physically. Now, if it did Chicago would be the safest place in America or Washington DC or Baltimore, I can on and on with a less to the anti again places have extremely icon one other thing: statistics show the majority of people who commit crimes on the streets- it are eighteen or younger, with a gun not buying the gun anyway, if your eighteen to twenty one, you're not buying that gun in a store going through a background check your buying on the black market, with with the serial number scraped off.
This is another false sense of security. That is what this is This is another way to then media's narrative and let's get some free press. Smart business decision short term for Walmart index. It probably is, if I'm looking at this, not for me What does a second amendment matter? Ok, if I'm ok, this solely from a pr standpoint, and I worked for Walmart, they say what you think. I do air companies and they have the right to make this decision today. Fight isn't a smart business decision short term for Walmart index. It probably is, if I'm looking it's not for me what does a SEC? matter. Ok, if Smoking is solely from a pr standpoint and I worked for Walmart. They say what do you think I can do this is probably Right decision.
Coward down to those who criticise you get some great free press, look like a responsible citizen and a lot of people shop there. Yet Joe alienates somber, eventually they'll go away and come back to Walmart. That's what this That's the only reason why they're making this decision. One? Eighty, seven, seven, three, eight one! Thirty, eight eleven. Ninety, this much I love Walmart. I like the pricing. I like the money, I save. Where am I gonna go now seriously: my gonna go to target whether transient bathrooms. They cannot know that we're screwed Where are you going to get? You know you gotta, get the liberal target down the street with a transgender bathrooms. Put your family risking their bathrooms. We're gonna go to Walmart wit. Which one is, and they know this they're not idiots
which people are gonna go to. One of those two places scan your phone calls one Seven, seven, three, eight one! Third! eleven when we go Scott thinks you're waiting you're on the bench for your arm within Ferguson, filling in for market then, and I get to have you with us- go ahead. What's up at Howdy, sir? you know if it wasn't Tom it, what gets me Ben is that it was a human being behind a weapon, a right of Google. It wasn't the weapon it with a human being there You know pull the trigger now. If you went in there what an ax or nice, it would have been an ax or nice. You know Looking at the human being now, of course, they're gonna take bring it the emblem of the gun. I wonder if it's the what you're describing renouncing is the tweet that I sent out on Valentine's day and I put it out there and I put it to the top,
My twitter feed, I said one in DE, why we blame the driver and not the alcohol, to what a bombing we blame the bomber and not the chemicals. The Volga, nails pressure cooker use three in a shooting. We blame the gun and not the person. Why the changing logic I dont get it. I don't understand it is always n, N, n n. Without talking nobody talks about the guy. You know age, to get him? Let's just talk about, you know messing with the secular. Others and look in the forties, shooting theirs to be what it should be blamed in this order law enforcement on the local state and federal level and then the shooter yeah yeah yeah, because I can blame law enforcement for not doing their job sure this. I was crazy, we know he's crazy, no question
and everybody was telling us he's crazy and ears are one thing, but the shooter I'll give em I'll give him some credit for being honest. He wrote it and set it. Tell people, he was gonna, be a school shooter, yeah yeah, I'm at least he was honest about being psycho. And gave us warnings about being psycho but no end, and they knew about this guy. In that you know. That tells me Doing their job down there and allowed a lot of stuff is coming out about those fellows down there, and you know what, What's going on. How is it you know? I said this earlier in the show: how is it that mayor Excuse me that sheriff how in the world is he still the sheriff at that I know why we live in a world where we are so messed up that we blame the inner re for something they didn't. Do we don't fight. The sheriff who clearly
didn't do his job, of course, that any bragging about what a great guy is. Now everybody loves him and it's not his fault. I mean, of course it is fooled, come on any takes no blame for anything. I don't understand it. I just don't And in the media is much is a call, for you know people off with their heads in the meat to movement and in taking people down why Would you not take down the sheriff that thank you, I mean they're professionals and the media are professionals it taking down people right. They do for a living. Yes, why would you not take down? This? Is the easiest takedown? Ever we have a sheriff who was warned about school shooting the could have stopped at multiple times of forty three interactions and worn.
And in the FBI no one has been fired for the competency of the federal government, the state government or the local government with a shooter. That said, I'm gonna do it and everyone told the authorities. Why is the media not have just over that now? what we say: we're gonna be obsessed over Walmart and exporting exact, exactly it's right after them. It's right. There I don't understand it. It is it baffles me if they get nowhere. I guarantee that with these people decided. Thank you, Sir Knight one: eight, seven, seven, three, eight one! Thirty, eight eleven coming up more your reaction to dig sporting saying we're not selling anymore guns of people under twenty one or assault rifles Walmart. Come on this and set me to meet to we're going to do the same thing:
What are you saying that we should boycott them? Get your reaction that coming up on the mark of anchovy, Ferguson, filling and we'll be right back No one will be surprised by what I'm about to tell you re watching, imposes now reporting that Robert viewers investigating is now investigating trumps, apparent effort. You out his attorney general if sessions in July. I have no idea that has anything to do with russian collusion by day. Let's just does just keep this thing going attacks There's dollars! Welcome back it is the market, then show then Ferguson, filling in remarked tonight who was out of it? I'll be back with you tomorrow, night, there's a lot of things. Turning right now that people are sitting me saying that Donald Trump betrayed his entire based today calling for gun.
Control. Without due process now the audio clamp of where p We're getting this realm and I'm gonna, let you decide for yourself because there's gonna jump said about things that at the White House with this by part, some meeting on guns, Trump said today: some I absolutely agree with these and I want to get rid of gun free zones. They don't work. That's clearly a very conservative idea. Now the vice president might pence today was talking about this at the White House, and I want you to hear what he said and then what the President said. In their own words, as they were talking about this earlier today, they were talking about. Guns and states and states in state rights and what we should ensure. Maybe shouldn't do with guns I'll. Let you hear that
and you decide if you think, Donald Trump betrayed the base on this issue Thank you for your meeting with governors earlier this week individually and as a group, spoke about about states, take accepts, but the this is the litter, they give families and give local law enforcement additional tools. If an individual. The story of the potential danger to themselves or other allow due process, no one's rights, your travel, but the ability- the core attainable. Collect not only the firearms with any any weapons, possession of firearms first and then, because that's another system because a lot of times, but the time you gotta go to take so long to go to court to get. Process procedures I like taking the guns early like in this crazy man's case, just a place in Florida. He had a lot of
fires, they saw everything to go what does that have so you could do exactly what you say, but take the guns. First go through due process is not new process. If you take the guns first. Mr President, that comment today is very concerning to me calling for conflict You should have guns before the due process is not ok with me. In the present. May that comment at three forty eight this afternoon. It worried me because, I don't think he understands how scary, it is to an average law abiding citizen to hear that the government could take my gun first and then give me due process later we'll talk about that on the market, then show then
Ferguson filling Incoming Marty Programme modern Voice of our founding fathers. This It is, though, my revenge, our dialogue, now at eighty seven, seven Valea one brief, eight one, one There was something that was said earlier today by the present. There was very concerning to me download Said some great things on guns, you also sets in things on guns. Concern me. One of them today happened three forty five this afternoon at this, I've partisan, meeting on gun, control or gun legislation. However, you want to say it now. John said. I want to get rid of gun free zones because they dont work. I So I agree with him on that point. Then.
Vice president, was talking about this issue of sure we limit guns for people that are mentally insane. Here's my Thoughts on this, ever want to take away again from somebody if they are seeking help on their own. But if you are committed against your will by the state. Declared by Judge mentally insane. I do. Believe there should be a time for period of time where you should not be able to go out and purchase a weapon Do you not believe you should lose your right down again forever unless you ve? actually committed crimes, it would take that right away from you, Health is a very complex issue. I know people that are bipolar. I know people there may present. I believe they should be out of projecting defend themselves in their out and when their home. Now, if you are, Committed against your will already, bird mentally insane by a judge. I do
that you disqualify you for me to have a gun approach again for a period of time. I dont think it should be for forever per se. This is it. Complicated issue, because you should have the right. I know people that, had been in bad places and they ve been able to get on certain medications or certain things have changed their life, and then there better. I don't believe you, because you are manic depressive bipolar deal with mental health issues that you shouldn't, go to protect and defend yourself. Not in favour of your saying all because you didn't you are in this category or in this box you should never be able to buy a gun. Because we say that you could go crazy or you might do something stupid or you might become violent now earlier today conservatives out there are saying that Donald Trump betrayed his entire base, calling for and control in this country without due process and This is something that every second amendment advocate
and conservative should be very concerned about this time. It Does it mean that I dont support the president now Does it mean that I don't think the present had some great thing to say the day on guns and, for example, getting your gun free zones? I give credit for that, but this meant that he made today is very concerning. If you stood earlier, might pens first then listen to what the President says: and I think the firearms first and then, because that's another system because a lot of times, but the time you go to court to take so long to go to court, he get the due process procedures. I like taking the guns early like in this crazy man's case. It just took place in Florida. He had a lot of fires. They saw everything to go to court. If they say you could do exactly what you say. The ability to go to court Tina order and collect not only the firearms were any any weapons,
The firearms first and then because that's about the system, because a lot of times, but the time you gotta go to take so long to go to court to get process procedures. I, like taking the guns early like in this crazy man's case and just took place in Florida fires. They saw everything to go to court orders. I see you could do exactly what you're saying but takes the guns. First go through due process. Take the guns first and then go through due process seconds. I cannot get behind that just can't one eight seven, seven three, one thirty, eight eleven one, eighty seven, seven, three, eight one, thirty eight eleven there was something else happened this meeting earlier today as well. I want to play
that's because there's a comment there was made here in the present then turns Dian Feinstein and says: take your bill, which her bill extreme gun control Throw it in this other billing, let's get it done, listen to the present and dine find signs. Phaser lit up like you'd one, the lottery here it is, and so did during something on this background, issue and using that as a base? And then I would like to add some of these other things we talked about, I think a major difference in this day, and you have also- and I think you into the bill, our you're ready. Can you can you? Can you some of the major view how, Can you add what Amy and one Diane have? Can we end the men- and I know you can watch very narrow and it's about dating partners and number of states have just
we're getting repairs best. You can add domestic violence, parent graphs pages into this bill, I'm I think, if you can do it can be done. It can be done to- I do not want Diane finds Times massive gun, control legislation put in any event, Mr President, the this is extremely concerning to me. Tell me that I was due process of the state ever comes then decide that they think I mentally and cable alone a weapon. They can take my gun first and then I have to go. The federal government to get my right back to carry a gun. No, I'm not! Ok with that. That's not! due process, that's not how it works as an idea. This works. This idea that we should look.
Diane Fine- signed a through legislation- a bill and unpleasant discuss it are supported. I am also not okay with that. This is something that every single conservative should be sounding off on tonight on social media. Saying Mr President Prodi respect what you today, the White House? This is not ok. We I'd like you to agree to put Dian fine signs, extreme gun control measures in a bill. We do not have it if you take away our guns before we have new process. If I have mental as you just because the government says I can do it. One. I have seven seven three, eight one. Third eleven. Let's get to your phone calls, are good at getting well. You're on the market, then Chopin, Ferguson, filling in and I go ahead, but I didn't on the media suppression of gun control, I've been a stay at home, twenty two year, life
and within an hour I use shooting orphan ban an ambassador. I completely support the second amendment and I just want to say why What would we ask man of eighteen years of age to register with collective services and which have called the dude they will be armed with a gun and told to protect our country and not allow them to legally on a firearm. If your man, enough to fight for this trading your damn well, man enough to own a firearm at eighteen. This isn't insanity. Let me, let me tell you what the other side is said to have this debate on tv now, probably five times in the last few weeks, and hear me out, because this is where I say we should be open to having this conversation, the difference, between reanimating you're, going in and buying a gun. Ok, and an eighteen year on, the military is first of all on the military. We go through an extensive background check and we, the middle and even a mental screening we then give you again and train you with a gun and we don't just throw you and am sixteen or foreign say have added we.
Pray, knew how to use a gun out. We train you how to break down the gun. We train. Take it apart and clean and put it back together. We drink you gonna short range, mid range, long raids, and you have a great many after qualify with men. Requirements before we lie to carry the gun. There is a difference in that scenario between that and a dumb care that might be smoking weed going into buying an air fifteen and eighteen years old. Now agree with you on that now let me say here is the problem with the with the logic there I'm giving the other side. I don't agree with that point. I'm just saying I we should be respectful of it. At least the end in here is my rebuttal too, that ok, my a bottle. Do that Jenny? Is this not ever eighteen year. Old is a dummy and not every eighteen year olds getting drunk or smoking weed. Not ever eighteen year old should be of people should be afraid of. I was a very responsible eighteen year. I know a lot of people that were very responsible. I also knew
dummies right. I knew some people that shouldn't be out of I gotta thirty five in my opinion, because radiates, but I should, not have my rights taken away, because there are some people that are stupid or incompetence. And second amendment is One thing that is not negotiable: it was now ever meant to be negotiated when I'm eighteen years old, I show the right to protect and defend not only myself but my family. Charged with crimes as an adult at eighteen. So if you're in a job crimes expect me to pay taxes and expect being a dough, and you treat me like an adult than don't tell me: I'm a junior adult, I'm either. Are not an adult there's no in between there absolutely absolutely the thing that I'd like to bring up is. The media is not mentioning the video game industry or trying to reckon of course not but went right. I mean that you, you can't tell me what the graphic assault thing video game,
Three is not having an impact on these kids lives. You can't tell the breakdown in the family. He's not having an impact on these kids lives? Clearly, is having a major impact on these kids lives you the stance it came out, someone wrote an article on it was. It was a great article about these mass shooters in this country. Employing inappropriate because it is an important one that that I think. You will agree with me on the number of school shooters and I want to make sure, get my facts right. Some I'm pulling up twenty six the twenty seven deadliest smash. Shooters grew I've been homes without a father yet Why do we not hear people calling for single mother control, as one person put it We have a breakdown in the family right, we do. We clearly have a break down the family. We have.
Father is literally farther more young who or young man to step in to definite father and be the father to the children that they had not yet another issue. Now look here as soon as the government became the fathers in a wild men to be irresponsible and not be shamed by society. If you didn't take care, kids in the past, you you re a leopard in society. If you were dead meat in the past you didn't take your kids and you demanding babies, high and dry, you were exiled is The government started picking up the slack, wouldn't it Happening was pretty simple: happening, as is all these fathers that I'm gonna have sex knock up. Somebody answers are not happy to leave in the government will pay for the grocery. So I dont look bad anymore and rigour The family is one of the reasons why we're in the situation we are in right now. Thank you, Johnny. I appreciate the phone call on eight seven, seven, three, eight one, thirty eleven
Fergus Ferguson filling in four markov in, and I be right back- blogger magnetism? Article events show been Ferguson filling in tonight, for the great ones will be back. We mourn eyes is an event tonight and present today and this by partisan meeting at the White House on gun control. He said some very, very very concerning things. One of them was- is that we should be able to take away your guns and then give you due process to get them back. If there are mental issues we quote, I have time to wait on a court. They moved through slow. He also said today that an end was calling members of Congress, saying you really think it
Basically, a kid should be able on eighteen May Oda by when these guns and of a twenty one, when they can my hand, gun. And what you said today was you're afraid of the inner edge going after Republicans,. These are the reasons why you're not going to change and as because its unpopular with the in our aim, I dont believe I've never thought they don't troubles hard core. Second amendment guy The inner I fell in love with him because he said he was a second I'm a guy, but overs ivy set about two things that I disagree with. Our guns doesn't mean me asking these questions night, that I dont sport the present. But if you are truly advocate the second amendment you should be concerned about this. Earlier today? This is what the present sounded like at the White House when you're calling out every publicans on this issue
selection by an gun, H1N1, now there's not a popular things to say in terms of the way of saying it anyway, but you can I ever thank you came by what you have to wait, you twenty one, but you can buy a kind of weapon used in the school shooting at eighteen. I think something to think about you, so why not even a lotta consideration and I'm the one bringing it up with a lot of people, don't want to bring it up because afraid to bring it up. You can buy in eighteen, nineteen and twenty, after which anyone thinking can via the weapon used in this horrible shooting at eighteen. You decide to people in this room very much going to decide. What are you doing about me
its queer there. The president is calling out- and he said you guys- are afraid of the inner ray, the presence in favour of changing the age from eighteen to twenty one- and I don't believe that, eighteen years old, you should lose your right to have due process, saying I'll, give you your gun, and due process saying I'll give you are you're going back. A few proved to us that you Are you doing you're? Well, Sir Gimme, your dick. Where'd you go ahead. What he can you hear me. I would try to get you back hold on formulae. Miata Tina thinks you're waiting. You are on the market then show Ferguson within and I go ahead. I got a point One point about the President about again before then. Come on,
You process saying I'll, give you your guns back after you proved to us that you deserve to have them back that our laws work in this country are currently, I think when he thing, because loud this young man with a real power, more combat this one individual person, that's while again Let's go by individual people and not then, in group, some not for all eighteen year out. You know and again, the nineteen year old, taken? Why period? But I thank you Somebody this serious character we needed. Something about all these Gandhi had period there's no time to wait. He is a problem. Now. My other point is sides hold on Wednesday it before he committed the crime of the school shooting. Who decides that he is a problem, they share, decided this ok,
shouldn't. You be then charge where they crime or go to court to get that a? U dont use You really want to trust the government. Well The problem with this is where we are one thing and it didn't work out again on his mothers. I think that a crime I think right and it's a terrorist threat to say, you're gonna go up and blood is worth a school. So on those issues you have been arrested and been held, and then you have time to go to a judge, and then you have time to do it the right way. You don't just get to walk in Dena and say because you don't like a person or you don't like what they say or like what they do, that I'm gonna take away your rights, it doesn't that way. The whole reason why we have new processes countries so that we're don't live and communists are socialists nation in those nations they can do that they can walk in and say urine. Opposition party: we don't like you, were gonna, throw you in jail for your words that you use forget your rights to bear arms. We live in America
I have the right to due process and we at present today, that advocated for me not having due process That is not ok, it had avenue politics has to do with a constitution, has do the United States of America, where they are this country in the world, because we have new process, we dont allowed our government to come in and just silence us are locked up or take away our guns or take away our rights because they think we My do something they don't like then Ferguson felling.
Now, let me underline the bowels of a hidden somewhere under Britain steal over nondescript building. We once again made contact with our leader back it is the market then show then Ferguson, filling in four margin, ideas and advancing we'll be back with you tomorrow night there's, That's going on today, if you're just joining us. Let's just start with the basic guidelines, Whitehouse Communications Director, hope Hicks hand. Resign from the White House she has been a long and trusted conference
The president is around Maisie. Twenty four seven went almost every campaign of it with him and was the White House basically gatekeeper for all media requests, an inquiry. She is no longer with with the present resigning today, one day after she testified before this intelligence committee Communications jerked out makes is gone said the thing that happened today. Conservatives very concerned over the president's comments. Today. Many would argue, urges flat out shocking on the issue of gun control. There was a big meeting at the White House on Gun control, in the present today a lot of people think that he got it wrong. We trying to play is the Middle America, or even the laugh, by not only saying one that he wants to die in fine style to add our extreme gun control legislation to a bill which her face. Exploded with excitement couldn't
the present sang throw herself into a bill. He also start attacking Republican, saying. Why aren't you in favour of raising the age of eighteen to twenty one divine air fifteen. It's because you're afraid of the array and then saying advocating for taking way are due process. Carve this getting guns from people that he says are mentally and saying my pants talking is a vice president, the table, nay, about how it's important to make sure that people that are the cord mentally incompetent. By a judge. Then are in trouble. The law, for example, should not be about the right. You got there and by a weapon most People agree with that idea. The present said, we don't get away on a judge or court that takes too long. We should go. Take away the guns and then give them due process, which is Mary, very scary scenario. Listen to this
your meeting with governors earlier this week individually and as a group we spoke about about states, take accepts that the focus is literally give families and give local law enforcement additional tools if an individual is reported to the potential danger to themselves or others allow due process, no its right to travel The ability to go to court Tina order and collect not only the firearms were off any any weapons. I take the firearms first and then because that's another system, because a lot of time, but the time you go to court, it takes so long devoted to get the due process procedures like taking the guns early like in this crazy man's case. It's just a place in Florida, a lot of fires, so everything to go to court would have liked to have seen. You could do exactly what you say but takes the guns. First, go through due process
that is not how our constitution works with all due respect to the president? That's not how It works at all. You know yet to take away my guns and then Gimme due process. That's what happens in here more terrible countries. And for the present to say that the reason why Republicans are not in favour of raising age from eighteen, twenty one to buy gun is because Afraid, the interim that's not also true, I'm not in favour of taking away a groan window and eighteen which we declared to be an adult in this country's right to my gun, Eighteen year old, live outside the parents, home eighteen year olds have the right to protect and defend themselves. Putting those are married with family and children. I should I have to wait on twenty one to defend myself or my children or my family. That is not how this I can remember, works? these are two things that every conservative tonight
regardless of your supporter of the present or not, should be concerned about these, are fundamental ideas. The people need to understand- and I and I play this tonight because when you President, Who is saying this? I don't even care if it's in surnames. This is an infringement on my freedoms in this country. If we did what the present was advocating for today body You're on the market then show then Ferguson filling in the night go ahead. Hello, this with Bobby. I've gotta go ahead. I am a couple points manner. A bigger thing is: how can I. Ask eighteen year old to take up arms NGO, defend this country. One is wrong.
For them to have a gun at eighteen in the private home. Explain in a little bit more, for I want to make sure I know exactly your point here: ok, You ask, or you draft eighteen year old kid to go fight in the military. And he has to take an alarm- he has learned learn that weapon he has to go to in this country with that same weapon, Yet it is wrong. Now all that are trying to raise the age limit of twenty one is wrong for that. An eighteen year old person to have a gun already. Aren't they as you call it or for that matter, and no one guns as well as I do. You can do a lot of damage. Another burned, and they don't have to be a good thing. I've had gone,
my entire life. My son is only eleven- well knowledge in governing guns. Safety he's been discreet sheets win I can understand why my government, although certain decided a, is too have a good man? to this question. Do you know the present today said Mason its absurd than eighteen year old can go in and by a high powered rifle like an air fifteen, but they can't by hand gun. I see that I see the logic there that is using. I don't think that's a crazy statement. I understand the logic is weird, combined air fifteen, but I can't my a twenty two single shot. Thereunder. Yes, that's weird! That's it! That's weird that I cannot by a single shot, twenty two I can go out and buy nay, our fifteen. That does not make sense illogically either, and I get the presents point on that is. If I can't
but if the governments in they don't trust me with a single shot twice, you hang on It is clear that I cannot say ok, but we trust you with an air of fifteen and I just think it ridiculous to change the age from eighty the twenty one I mean I mean, It doesn't make any sense, but girl you give them an inch on this body. They'll take a mild because if you let's say that we give in there's been a lot of conservatism said to me, then no, it can only just gone. Let's, just let him have the eight hour fifteen until twenty one, that's a good compromise is better than having to ban it all together, and then I ok within what happens when there's an actual shooting and they is it thirty? Six, are we gonna ban that one and then what happens when the ease of twenty two and then what happens when they use a handgun and then what happens when they use me we're? Where does it s because remember first school. Shooting that I visited remember is it is a joke. Arkansas school shooting air fifteen or even on the market,
they use their dad's dear rifle in the nine and eleven year old, went outside for the fire alarm and shot teachers and students. So when at school, shooting happen. Based on this logic, should we have banned thirty at sixes or thirty thirty's? What most USA will now that's hunting, while I use an air fifteen may go hardening exactly. You weren't them, take away a gun they will Take away all guns that are used by bad people and, though justified because of say, will now they're using this one. Now this is the kind of choice. Now this is the one that they want to use now. This is the one that you should be afraid of the eight hour fifteen will become another weapon. They become obsessed with.
Everybody's already been saying: we want to get where they are fifteen eighteen, forty seven, because they know that the air fifteen goes and then, of course, naturally, you gotta get rid of the eighteen. Forty seven, then, if you get where they can forty seven we're going to do next. You're gonna go down molest income Every single guarantee they find to be offensive to them because our anti gun, is all of a sudden. They all disappear. It will happen Glenn You're on the market in sugar in Ferguson, we didn't go ahead. Haglund opened today, you do in a great job and I thank you for doing it. I think your first car can I be misinformed, ignorant what everyone I'll give credence to the fact that I think we do Some federal firearms legislation. Do me a favor go and I want to play that collared cause. There's been hundreds of you that have been eating at me on face.
Majorities, or should we take em right now and come back and play that you want to do that? Do that go and hold on for me, because it is call now has become famous tonight. And on the show, our play this fake. Second amendment advocate coming up. Next, then I'll get your response. Glenn Our convention will be right back. You know everybody is obsessed with guns. Let me remind you what really we should all be obsessed about. The fail here of the government to start this school shooting in the first place. All the laws, are in place to stop this shooting all of them. All of the laws were in place to stop this school shooting
all the warnings were in place. Dana Lash. With the entering put out a tweet sang recap: parkland murderers, neighbors for We called Brower shit, accounting, sheriffs, forty responses at least two murders home. He manage message through to kill classmates, which is a felony and afford a statue, and they report, it s Parents classmates, took bullet And knives to school. And yet we blame the inner aid and the gun. That's what we should be focusing on the left is Brilliantly hijackers entire thing to be used to advocate, for I was getting our guns and our right to own guns and sang We well, we should be looked at again and then decide if you should or should not be able to own it based if we think it's scary or not,
earlier tonight, we had a cholera called an acting like he was a advocate for the second amendment now become the famous first, our collar. I play this for you, and this is what we are up against with liberals in this country, who one don't even understand, guns, listen to this crime things and long island you are on the market, then show been Ferguson filling in and I go ahead good evening with the earth and thanks for taking my car. Gotta talk to you gimme your take on this. While I agree with you on one point, I agree that eighteen year old should have the opportunity to protect themselves with guns. If My concern is with the air fifteen and our fifteen's are designed to kill people, and I am again everybody from having the right to own and air fifteen. You had one of the few
I don't want a tenant one. Second name again: it's not designed to kill a person now, but but done better design for sport hunting like that? None of which- and this is important question name- a gun for Europe. I to be correct: you're gonna have to name a gun that is purposely bill to not kill a person. I there are there. All gun can kill people. That is true. No all guns do kill. People What that every caliber gun that has ever been made in this country has killed. Probably a person. Can you- and I agree on that? Yes, we can definitely Leon. Okay, so the idea that an eight hour fifteen somehow is designed to kill people override other guys
they somehow not gonna kill a person is his is the worst logic I've heard all day. So let me rephrase it here. Let me Emily phrases that an active is killing lots of people in little amount to. That's just gave way. We Craig Craig that ok, let's, let's just Let's go with that logic. You said that today, our fifteen is again because lots of people in a little more time in that it happened with other guns. Ok, let let's talk about twelve gauge shot, gun. At close range that semi automatic, without a plug in it or with a drama attached to it, can kill a lot of people in a short amount of time? Can you- and I agree on that- you ever but an I can kill more. That's not true. You have no data Craig to back them up, except for fearmongering and buying into this idea that somehow, nay, our fifteen is more dangerous and twelve gauge shotgun withdraw on it. I would love to hear an interview with the cop. It did not go into the school in Florida and asking
he nervous about going and because he knew the person that it within that building, had a weapon with much more powerful than and he was going and with Craig You are assuming a hell of a lot tonight, I'm I'm I'm! Ok! I want you and I agree Craig. Can you and I agree that that the that police officer was a coward? Can we Both agree on that right. In what way renting, ok phenomenon, and it was there was a shooter and there he didn't know what he was. He had no idea what Gunny had in their your ear I get. This is the part where your logic is insane: the police. Officer Petersen who wear. In the school that didn't go into the school, I should say, did not know but gun was being used at the time of the shooting you understand that. You're, assuming that he knew that it was. They are fifteen being used, which is an absolute lie and if you guys
my screen froze of your pull Craig back up here. For some reason, I can't credit you're, assuming that that police officer knew the gun it was being used, and he didn't know what gun was being. Is he had no idea, you were shooting coup and guns or ashore. Gun or along rifle, our thirty six or thirty thirty or twenty two. He had no idea what gun was newly used, but with previous knowledge and knowledge of current events. He knows that our fifteenth and other well, Craig, now, you're stretching good or you're stretching. Now. What about your basically saying now that police officers have a right to not do their job because of the possibility that there might being a our fifteen and that school. When a moment ago you were declaring that that police officer did not go and that's all because he knew- and I are, fifteen was being used which he did not know. You call them a coward. He is a coward while the reason he might be more of a coward because he knew what was waiting for him inside and that scared him, then don't be a cop. Well,
Ok, what met again Craig Craig, you do understand. The reason why I am not agreeing with you tonight is because you ve made up for different hypotheticals that are based in fact. You told me that I was scared because their fifteen, when you didn't know what the gun was inside, you told me that they are fifteen. At close range is more deadly than the twelve gauge shot, which is also a lie. There are plenty and you told me that they are fifteen- is again that goes out and kills people implying that other guns don't kill people there. It is folks it is then Ferguson filling in from article then one eighty, seven, seven, three, a one. Thirty, eight eleven we'll be right back,
you're. Listening to your knowledge, Craig one, the gray one. Can you can call it now, eight seven, seven, three aid, one, three, eight one, one Org American is then Ferguson filling in for the great when market then deny nice, have you with us? A mark of them will be back to more, and I know where he is okay. This is not a ticking off for pneumonia or anything like that. Many of you are concerned. I got an event tonight, you'll be back with you tomorrow. I just want You know that now want to get back to several of you they're saying, then. Why do you need in our fifteen I've? I was throwing through my twitter feed a moment ago. It's a damn. What was the last time you show nay our fifteen to protect and save your life. When was the last time you shot in our fifteen. Because someone was attacking you.
No one needs and they are fifteen, but the military or law enforcement. You blank translate that's enough, but let me respond I use mayor of air. Fifteen was for hunting, it's probably my. They were to shoot for target practice. I get to shoot as much as I want to I actually you something at home, which matter if your gun geek, you gotta check this out. If you ve, never it's, there is ay device that you can use your smartphone and you put what it basically, the equivalent of what would be a a shower your gun. The caliber, your gun, it's a laser and you can actually shoot practice shooting at home on this on your on your phone. It's incredible, you
check it out of your gun person. I don't give a lot of time to run the range, but I, to make sure that I can. I can practice. It's called an eye target pro check it out. If you want to that's what I used by have one that fits my are now don't have to and again this is the problem with your logic is this: I dont have to justify any am against you, because I have a right to own that gun. My second them right. I don't have to lay out my gun in front of you and justify it to you now the gun that I used by the way to protect myself when I was involved in a gang initiation where there was a gang that was, they were initiating a younger member. Call it having blood in the gang they go out, robs my then kill them and so that they ever try to knock on the gang or get out again they had the aid in the whole against them, because they can then point to the time and date where they killed. Somebody. It's a gang initiation, Cobb won the I happened to be the target.
I had you protect myself with a gun. The gun that I had to protect myself. That night, by the way, was on the list of Diane Fine sign guns that she says I shouldn't be allowed to have we. The present. Did I told her to throw in the bow. Now I get. I shouldn't have to justify any of my weapons. You because it's not our second amendment works rights in this country work. I don't I have to sit there when you, when you argue with me- and you say to me, then, where was the last time you use your air fifteen to protect yourself. That's not how our second amendment works. You want to live in a world like that. You need to move to a com is dictators country. Because they will make you justify your weapons held I'll, make you justify your free speech what year advocating for what they do in those countries where the way, also when we have to do this job and you and you have a tweet at me, because I was shut down your twitter account. Do you know,
The freedom of speech and freedom of expression, the freedom to carry a gun, the freedom protect your family, the the to bear arms, that's the reason why don't live there? That's regional! I'm glad! I live in American, its regional, I'm, an american citizen. That's the reason why we have the greatest country in the world, but you, when you tweet at me- and you say to me, then when was the last time you use your our fifteen to protect herself and some evil against you clearly do not understand why This country is found upon and what our rights are founded upon. I am not. There is nothing in there. That says that I must come to the United States government and justify my need very weapon. Theirs. Nothing in the second amendment says that I have to justify it to you, fellow citizen of the United States in the country, why I reserve the right to have any gun for that matter. I guess that's how it works.
My right to bear arms is a right that is explicit. The unclear and also have the right to have a well armed militia, be a member of it. You want to talk about a failure, and I mean this is to those are about. They are fifteen. Why are you wasting your time focus on the gun when you have a government that failed? You You guys love criticising the government. You of attacking people were it fail. You are bringing down people when they fail. This is the perfect opportunity for you to fight get tons of people fired and justifiably so for once you you, have the ability to expose, although the failures in the government and the local state national level, the FBI, the law in force, in that, the man in charge of the law in force in all our county, that the those it took. The phone calls all the warnings of the shooter, you all have
the ability to expose them. Why are you not exposing them? Why are you attacking me? I didn't commit a crime. I didn't do anything wrong. Where are you talking about the parkland, murders, murderers, neighbours and families Well, then, bag of our kind of years to permit to do something about this person it was came. He was going to kill innocent people Why are you talking about the fact year to family members? Cousins, you call the day is mom dying said: please can take this man's guns away. He is maybe it's computer! Why are you talking- the failure of the forty five responses, at least that we know of through the murderers home. Where are you talking about the fact that the chair Israel lied now the number of responses and then said he's doing an amazing job is an amazing leader. He can now put of his officers. Are cowards wire you're talking about the fact that a message threats it said, I'm gonna, kill you, I'm gonna Bilbil to school and those one unanswered as well.
I mean seriously so Yes, I love my weapons, I also of the fact that I dont have to justify them to you. That's not how it works in this country. Kurt events, IRAN would then Ferguson filling in for market then go ahead going to great job Ben Ben use life experience that, just by what my president said today in regard to come, the station. I might be blowing the lions, but I have a theory based on branch with my own son, who is now a happy healthy adult, but back when he was a destructive pain. He was a beer. Spike writer and love to jump his bike up on property like benches flower bed, etc call the grinding. If I drove me crazy, it was wrong and who knew it, but one day was grind. In the park and inaction red brick softened. He was arrested,
were there and I got that phone call, I'm sorry, I'm at the police station. Now they confiscated his bike. They kept his pike until he was adjudicated. I think we're a paying five, fifty dollars or something now Are you crazy, pikes and guns pikes earned in second, and then there's no amendment that talks on property rights and gun right am. I burn, aligns too much here or working see where I come from. I see where you're going with this, but this is where I have to go back to where I think you're wrong. Ok, right, Your son gets on a by Europe. My can he destroyed property, so they take the MIKE away from him. Did you ever get the right back right after we left? We take a fine. We went through the empower lot and it was really to us. Ok, you have to go before a judge to get your property back. Yet he was adjudicated that death We we got a court date down their ticket written and we got a court
Now, I'm imagining somebody in domestic now ears, ears, appoint the years a point I want to say this out. So people understand why the law- if you're using is is is flawed and it's not personal. Did. They go home to your house and confiscate every other thing that he had that involve dirt bikes. No, they did not say so so the difference here is they didn't come to your house, because your son, Vienna as property right and say do you have a helmet do have gloves. Do you have geared you? Have another engine you have tyres, you have rims, do you other dirt MIKE's and we're gonna come to your house. We're gonna comes get all of them because you maxim Red breaks off a wall. While you were breaking your dirt Reich and at an end, and basically you work. Prevent analyzing property right right. There are now. You can clearly see there's a difference. Yes, absolutely.
Now you didn't lose is right to own inert MIKE afterwards, either right. No, no you're, making real clear idea. I didn't lose it right, any right! Any didn't lose, as is his right to drive a driver, nerve micro. Car correctly didn't lose his license. No, I didn't Then there is a huge difference right, absolutely a second point. I know that our I now let me let me also be clear about something you are quite correct. When I was involved in my shooting, I shot back right, I'm a good guy there that the other guy's a bad guy. I was protecting myself. They come I stated my weapon that night. Because it was involved in the event that they were investigating the same way that your sons, dirt bike, was involved in the event which there was a. I am committed around I was very angry when they my gun, because clearly I just saved my life and I sure, as Hell, didn't want to leave you
at three o clock in the morning for giving all my statements in everything going home without the gun you saved my life, you can understand why be upset The police officer said miss Ferguson lotteries. Thank you have to understand this gun we're we're investigating this right now. Clearly, we think that you are in the right. That's why, Not being arrested until we find out, if there's some of the chairs of the hospital with a bullet in them from this event, could be another side, the story here we are If you take your weapon now didn't Take my right to go out the very next day and by another gun. Ok, I the very next day and bought the same that gun gun that I didn't get for almost two years until they closed out the entire case. I literally they took away that gun. Now they did not take away my right to go by the same gun. The next day, literally, did it today and the next morning before you and that's it The think my point would with your son. They took his dirt, like that was involvement incident, but
could have immediately left there and got in Bonn and bought a another dirt. My kitchen lose your right to buy that your bike that there were two more thousand now and they didn't come and get that when either and that's my point about new process, you don't get to take away. All of my rights because of a suspicion. That's why we have due process in for countries where their dictators and tyrants they can How can one day and say cart? We don't like what you said on Twitter on on then show last night we're going to take, organise we're gonna, throw you in jail because we You're conspiring against the government now that Happens in other countries the Lord and then happen here hope we are surrounded by common sense, people right now getting that same breathing for opening his mouth today. I hope so because this idea that the end again in his words, ass he put it today and for peace, but Miss did earlier and look. I support the president. I do not support this here, Earlier today, in a way it for you, real quick,
again what he said: the vice press. Was talking about, we need to clearly have issues of laws and states can get involved in these laws when it comes to mental issues, a mental health issues and the with due process, and the present said. No, we don't need due process were given to that. After that, we need to take their guns before due process there. Is not a conservative. Second amendment idea: it's not. I thank you for your meeting with governors earlier this week individually and as a group we spoke about about states, take accepts that the focus is the literally give families and give local law enforcement additional tools. If an individual is reported to the potential danger to himself for others, allow due process- and I was right to travel but the ability to go to court in order to collect now only the firearms were off any any weapons.
Firearms first and then go because that's another system, because I'm not attached by the time you go to court. It takes so long to go to court to get the due process procedures. I like taking the guns early like in this crazy man's case and just a place of work He had a lot of fires, so everything to go to court orders. So you could do exactly what you say, but take the guns. First go through due process. Not how it works. That is not our laws work. That is not how due process works, then Fergus and filling in for market. Then we'll be right back.
Program. Accurate is then Ferguson killing and for the great we're Markel. Then he will be back with you tomorrow night, as he's got an event tonight. In the meantime, let's get straight back in to your reaction. The present today calling for taking guns without new process and then giving you due process on the back in a lot of people. They heard this that were shocked by what the hasn't said today, couldn't believe that he would actually advocate, for taking your guns without due process, and then he says, M will get. Let you get him back later. Not how this works. That's not how due process works at all, earlier today when this happens a lot of I couldn't believe it
the present an advocate for something like this, and we should give him let him know how we feel about this. It's important. This is how're right work. You know, what's right, you travel, but the ability to go to court. Tina order and collect not only the firearms were off any any weapons. Now, that's like MIKE Pincette here he's actually right have new process go to court. And then get the weapons get the firearms compete with it. Shouldn't have them based on mental illnesses and threats present, then jumps in over the vice president and says this in a position to take two firearms first and then because that's another system, because I'm not attached by the time you go to court to take so long to go to court can get the due process procedures. I like taking the guns early like in this crazy man's case. It's just a place in Florida
fires, so everything to go to court orders I won't have you could do exactly what you're saying but takes the guns first go through due process, while wow really you are on the market, then show Heller you don't know, so go ahead, quickening job Ireland also fail. The government failed levels down their border and we're not possessed about that rainy. We're not freaking out about that. If there is anything that then unanimous decision by everybody in this country needs at this. The sheriff needs to go only already fired at the FBI and no one's focusing on that. We're obsessed with Dick sporting goods denied saying we're, not selling guns of people under twenty one. They give you a fastened
the that we did something and then Walmart comes running on the street like they crazy little door. Going me to me to me too, I got what I want to say that I think would sit down at the thought. They're like a lot of things, there is currently a truck driver. I gotta have a hideous your kind operator you gotta get certified. So why can't I Somethin! Beware! Ok, There are already in place if needed. It will need to follow a background check all I shall. I agree with all that our farmers that ok, so you do your background checks Show you gotta go, do ya a save he chorus! familiar, I know you think, like a ready cash, you work with arranged officer. You get certified, You gotta worry about that. Again is my is my right.
I think that I have to go through all that with your ear. Our second amendment right is clear. It's not Negotiable I'll, see you guys back here or soon Markov end back what tomorrow.
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