Hey, what's goin on its bill bar is the Monday morning podcast. I don't know when I think this is gonna, be a special episode, or maybe it's for Monday over that be the nineteenth. I don't know what I'm little out of sorts, because I gotta do bunch a traveling this week flat on your come back a mental and bullshit So why any ways we have a special guest, once in a while. I take a break from rambling to myself. In my underwear there, house. You know, DR my wife, not so. This week. We actually have legendary drum a musician human being from Stephen doubled trouble. Please welcome Mr Chris Layton. What's goin on I will just saying it out: no life you're doing a project in be an awesome right better off you gonna be able to choose gum right up on my dick S. Little drive people drive, I'm not say

there are already making you uncomfortable. Not I'm good, I'm going until that more than several times our I will. First of all what brings you are right now we are in LOS Angeles. What brings you out here? What you workin out, I'm doing a project called the rights in this day and that we put together, who did a project to the same project about a year and a half ago. The rises myself by similar Kevin Mccormick Ways will see us and Jackson Brown and I'm very Goldberg place keys, keyboards, peacekeepers in the original electric flag and know that might Bloomfield way back in the sixties. Man than this Kenny Wang Shepherd Play, guitar sings. I saw you guys at the Greek. You did a stronger than the absolutely ripped the ripping awesome. That's it like to watch

Stephen still says my hazelnut. There is the other guy he's a last effort, not least, and that's the band and we're making a record, and do you think this is your second wonder, you're the first one does not a second one, the second one that you got done. It's called the right idea: s right, ok, look at what type of music we look at it, it gets are driven its blues, its within its original songs. For the most part, I don T know why Stephen Self, by I know, through Kenny, as I work with Kenny a lot, we go back many many years. Personally, I know Stephen is because of this I was asked they talked about. It asked me to join the whole idea website, like just as many of I. If you know I played drums as a hobby and I'm horrific so always wondered like I've always had unbelievable admiration for true musicians. What is it you do get that failing like when you are sitting in the studio.

You can't not the song and you're looking over at the sight of Stephen still had the ever just like how the hell did. I get her well yeah. I think that way about a lot of things because of growing up I was a huge Stephen Stills fan, Crosbie stills, national, young and brain. You know Dallas Taylor, Was the drummer in the ban way back when I'm in these names replaced. I my licks and listen to guitar sounds and songs and songwriting. As I get awesome. Like legendary talk about ledge, very then used and then I'm sitting there and I'm looking over there and he's counteroffers saw or haven't. We cannot solve gone, wait a minute. How did I get? How do you stay calm in that moment, because I would sit there and I would Like arresting face that you would know that I was freaking out, but inside We deeply and slowly now getting out a long career, I've worked long and hard to get yourself a guy. You know I deserve this. I deserve it as well as much as I wouldn't deserve it, but I'm grateful it. I've got

That's awesome. You can feel that because I've never felt I deserve this. I unless it's something bad like some comes back to bite, meaning As my guy piano Y know, I desire that asshole but, like I don't think I've I've body. Mine recently wanted to go on, go by himself, a nice car, and I gave him a half time speech to go out and do it because I'm trying to get my side effect. A catholic Gill thing work and by my wife anything but but. You know I was gonna go by myself by the way you pulled up a heavy Chrysler, Hemi Station Wagon Well, I've been trying to defend the station wagon to my listeners, most from ninety percent of them are not having this a sports be also sports. It is not what I like to sleep now. Is my my wife calls a thug car. She gives you going out in your thug guarded dance. Like you know, how did you get the station wagon,

control, you drums and back and all that stuff yeah. You know at every car that I somehow is motivated by that idea, because you know I do all kinds of work about it all comes down to the very first work I do. Can I get my drums in the car right and you get him easily at a station wagon which, if which your first year vehicle. You ever had the first one that I bought. As I know, your big cargo shall be Mustang and stuff like that. Camera blow your mind of adults and five to station wagon of changes before they were called Nissan over here. I'm over that that's in two thousand and five ten years ago does drag racism with those any it's all electric I've seen that there are trying like it's a five cent. I have seen that yeah there's one where they started to slope the back end and it's like they just said: fuck it. We don't have enough time and they just sliced off. The back is not how it looked well. I was there was a coup or of a foreign or Sudan is what it was all known.

Five ten. What am I talking? I love that kind of five to me about this in the station wagon, with I'm thinking g to ten be due to non I'm sorry, I must also add that I love that car and I can't ever himself site that I'm actually sit here. Talk. I'm a freak out a little bit. You are the five ten at such a bad ass carded. You have the two door, the Ford or. Why are the station? Biogas is Ford or you would afford or stay station ok yeah and now you ll ever did was put the key and input gas and I had the conflict for years and it was. I was when I moved to Austin from the corporal

Texas. I just said I'm out here and I want to ask and not put almost up in that Carlo took off and on how old, old we, I was just turned nineteen. She, nineteen years old, you gotta you gotTa Dodson, five, ten for your station where you live in corporate Christine. You been plain drums parents house in the type of stuff. Listen it's all these guys that you would virtually would play with the US and what actually, basically, as he musician causes, fascinates me as a comedian like when I started out, you know was all about get not at next calmly stop in the comedy connection and Dick Dorothys Comic. I'm getting established there and then it becomes a moment. We ve done that and you just like I now what yeah. Now? Where do I gotta? That must happen: music musically too, Yet you know was, I was in Corpus and my father had died and and got looked around and I've been too often to visit my sister, who was at the university a Texas three or four years earlier, and I woke up- and I was in music school

Corpus and I'm sorry, I just saw whiplash my head, this drama instructor, who I went in to take with imprisonment. The best guys, a rudimentary playing honey sedulius sticks wrong. I said he said I want you to hold in traditional military style city. I don't do that anymore. He said yeah you're hold them wrong. French match rivers were Billy com Also sticks like there's. No I've been doing that right. Since I was a kid to let our listen there's if he ever watched like a drummer play this deed pick him up the way you naturally would wish you grab both the same, The item is that other wayward, the left hand of your right hand, dramatist soda lane sideways across your hand, that's considered traditional, the others called match. The sky Match group in those very stars above the thing was because a marching drawn she like and military operations, other Durham hung under the size of the stick, a perfect when he held on the left hand ride it presents what happened to one side here, so you hold that had withheld the stick that way in the hands of China on the side of the ground. On the other side, ok, anyway,

So he says I see I don't care how Billy carbon holders drumsticks, because you're not gonna hold him. That way said hey, you know what I'm done and I got up and walked out. Can I woke up, and now I'm unama, let's widen like Whiplash Anderson they're watching the goods they do. You got the talent, you don't need to sit here yet yelled. I must say I wasn't tremendous performance by the guy from the insurance commercials I don't know his name is awesome Zalzal bump bump bump, but it also goes to show you that's like that thing, with acting that you are just U r handcuffed by the material like. If this guy doesn't get that script, he just has to keep going. Like whatever the hell. Sazen, those commercial nanos. So I get my woke up the next day or you know what I'm out of here, I'm going to ask in that place was also one of those. Did you know? you say that to the teacher notices,

these screamin out? You know, Michael Douglas enough, now went back the next day and with all my teachers, and I don't care where you're going to do with my great I'm out here and they go when you go right now leave the building. I got the car packed and I'm on my way do we want to have my grades stuff. I gotta go now. What now will you always like that sort of strong person, because I think if I was nineteen years old in if some guy, like the dude whiplash said you know the whole new sticks wrong. How would be like all? Ok and then why does he yelled at me? I'd be like you're right. I know I well shit. You said we touched on this a minute ago when you said that, because when I said I deserve that, I go out. I say that because I'm done trying to work over my catholic guilt to unite You know. Sometimes I go I desire way more than I've gotten unavoidably deserve with anything that I even unicycle, but that you let pendulum swings done swing. Is why these days, that's the guy but not always, gotta been defiant and a contrary and in a bunch of other stuff, with some good stuff, but

now. That was easy, because someone told me you need to get out of here, there's something for you there you that you do not know if I think a lot of people feel that, but they don't act on it like I am. I do both like I have times or have the stray Andras. I plan to fuck you I'm out of here and then I have other times where that voices screaming at me. Waken me up at night, I'm grinding my teeth and I still like ignore it like I did not. I am not concerned dish years. The first year of the ships were three recent. Where mean that in the last year, I've really started to listen to my God and if I meet somebody am I despite what they are doing and all their accolades and everything. If my gut has that feel enough like do this, this isn't right and I live walked away from it and to the things that really came back like wild men. I was. I was right on that. One self took me almost

fifty years to figure that out, but some always like drawn the stories like that. So then you leave, you say fuck that these two, the whiplash guy. Yes, I got me it's funny so that, because I'm in kind are we like that? I gather that the best thing that I can do is when I heard that intuition must attach some kind of passion Darcy listen to. That is about the fact that I only had better do something different big turning point for us. What happened right then I went, I don't know why I'm goin they're! All I know is that something tells me that I need to go there so took two hundred bucks. I had my pocket for peace. Drummed kit about six changes are closing. I just took off and drove their seed, I am a new show up. I just as I always try to encourage people to listen. There's pod cast to you know if it is not the role of being in a cubic, go on doing that, but if you don't want to do what you have this thing telling you to throw six shots into a car and drive somewhere that you should do it.

Are you when you show up, you have no weight, and this is the big questions. People always have when it comes to following a dream is like, though, in there always like and then what is kind of like you. What would you say just figure it out as you get yeah, you know nothing. I give you keep working and you don't give up any volunteer wishing you have some common sense and palliative the things right for any. I go you mostly things work out. May they work out one where the other? So how long did you sleep in your car for Well I didn't. Do you see there are some guys it. How did it had a band up an austrian they vote in this all shack outside and town called main or taxes? It was fit fourteen miles outside Australasia. They just come back a few weeks earlier, the air we abandoned the place and they go. It's got the rest of the rip pay. Now. What can I get here that joint, ok, that's more! Those deals are your high can maybe use that if you want to give it to me, it's rents paid. So went there was outside. I had not that I wish to know now what you know. The first thing

rent was paid for how long fourteen day room was paid for like another couple of weeks, and I have some guys say when we go up there, let's go up there, so the idea was we're going it. We were gonna, have advances and come on up there, I'm goin, let's go, we can have their old house and bought. So we did that nobody had anything we kind of sad ironical jammed and that in the in the house, we didn't really ever doing except that meanwhile, one gallon got a job in another guy. When you got a job and you are the only car drove a guy to his job and a peck he covered my rent the next month is we were out there for a couple of months. The story could get really long, not on all. This is a fascinating, but what kind of get we plain? At that time? I had a wretch kit. You data for peace scratch could briefly now you Ludwig well play Ludwig Gonna play fives apply both play both of them. Ok, I was, I was a Ludwig guy. My very first kid I played was Ludwig Ludwig in Georgia,

which was basically that was the cadillac of back than before? All these for the japanese companies and yeah, you know I mean Miss Mitchell. I heard that unless he doing I- and I saw a picture of what you have an you now want his library was top and over there was it premier drums. Over an english premier, England. He play those tumors premier right now and then there was Yamaha, unparalleled, Edward and yet around for a while, but more than life. Like everything else, I finally got here so how long before you got into an actual situation after moved Austin that you were in a band, you guys were playing the clubs you can eat and you can make your rent the was two years later, two years later now, will you one of those guys? What did you just like? As far as like other views, oceans, saying you and being like. I wanna play what this guy or that's the kind of guy is a drama, the foundation. What did you have a style that that did you have to go out and shake a bunch of hands? Are you one of those guys are set down upon

People just like that guy can well here's what happened when the guy's a came back came up later to be in that ban and then mediately a winner didn't have a ban was a sackful areas here, just a blood loser and allay, and he got a gig with whether with a ban called Paul Ryan Cobras and there was another man called greasy wheels. You were looking for a drummer and I didn't really have a gig any city. Otto check out my roommate he's really good, somewhat, not dish and much with bunch other guys this it. You got the gig as rest or make a study patient. Paper on Friday, and I now will you weak because you needed a where you extra nervous, as one of your first gangs are now nominative, nothing more more nervous, and I was just to begin with about life, but you know, it was always was our losses because you were always playing with other people that you didn't feel the nerves you know. Well, no I mean I mean I mean I'd still do now term outlook and our Stevens Stills, I'm gonna shit

right feel able to reflect not as way it's every day in us like. I know it's a daily thing like you know, I look for something that helps call me gives me in the moment you know, but those moments where each step and outrage GOSH Opa do good. You know right and I will do it. I got it. May I now about what I've ever gotten lost in a song. Hopefully like you know, I don't mean in a good way of yeah yeah yeah. I know they show they showed called the goddamn comedy Jim. It's a really cool thing funny when romance Yes, all the time it's true I like like, so what every day, Equally, it means a lot of committees like myself that play instruments, and you know wish that they had your abilities on whatever instruments and we end up becoming comedian, so Scotch admires he has this calmly show you got me. Do ten fifteen minutes till stories about going to conscience, and then you go back hegemony ban you to play it.

Are you saying you play drums, so I I've done it like three times did at last night, and sometimes I find myself so listening to the base player. So I stay on time. I forget I'm not listening to the lyrics and like this, we fight last night, the course went around twice the first time and only one around once before went to the bridge a second time and I'm literally in the middle of it going. This is the first time with the second time we played this. What does happened, he will you haven't. You know what you're gonna here's the thing is, after enough experience and stay to say that she said: if we just make our ears real, big and pay attention, we have the tools and will be all right. And where are you going to find about? That's not what I find it out. There is a real. The other thing is, I can really be front run in the deal. Right is no different than the quarter backers he's taken the snap and receivers already down the down the facilities to throw in the bar. You the guy's not down there yet right, you know someone, the guy gets down there

see what's going on, then you act and the moment and that someone that's really what, but I dare say things about living in them and in the incident and if you listen and everybody was, nobody knows what's goin on you'll all do it together or whatever it is, will be fine and if it were not to go back and retooled thorough what you did wrong together. What's the worst example, you have of light being up on advanced and nobody knew what was going on, and there are looking back at you like what he did it all just fall down the stairs there had fake it. We started this settlement and I do believe that you are always monsieur. I wish both business kaput just see the look in your face. You like this. Six hundred yards theories were ok, thinking about our second, the first. It came to my mind right. I do I'm the drama for the experience Hendricks Tours, which play with every by right, three hours long and we did this one two or that started in D C and the idea was in everybody knows: Jimi, Hendrix songs and we'll just all show up, and you know- and we go and look at this.

We got this reply with these guys em, and why does he do it? Does he do the same in a whatever? And so we go out there, the sole outhouses like as us, I'm counting the song guys. You got what keys idiot. You gotta be kidding me us like train wreck of, train, wreck and they're, not only looking at me, but you know I'm goin. I thought this is work goes to the course, but how come you're? What are you the other looking at me and I'm looking at them and here the sultan It's like everybody's up. There were their pants down, you know and everybody in the audience how many people are watching. Four thousand oh Jesus in there with their mouths open gone. I pay tuner fifty dollars for this what are you doing up there? You know it's just like mayhem, I'm gonna, you know how many gigs imagine after that. You guys you set what were immediately went to the practice. We worked it out. Will you have the abbot there, but then you're on the tour such like your gig and every day, and so you to catches catch, can sound check, hey, let's get togetherness, remotely, show you what I was thinking about that

song and uniform me? Almost everybody concerned was able to the table, studied I'm gonna. Let me get this straight because in a few hours we're gonna go hit and how long did it take for you guys to whip that into shape? I'm no eight or nine years of work in progress and what it may do. The point that people in the crowd novices weren't notice and the look panic be it in the wrong key and it took US officials, but you know The thing becomes personal. You know you do your work, any do something of the Euro, so that's funny and it could have been funnier. I could be better, but the thing about me, I'm up there by myself. So even if I'm fallen off the rails, whatever direction, I decide to go into too to try and write the ship. It's a hundred percent of the people,

Is that there are going in that direction, so at least it looks good, is it just makes whatever decision? I make it's not like I'm looking at the base player and he goes left and I go right and the whole thing falls down like I've. I've always been amazing. Let me get back to Christianity brought up Stevie Another's listeners Goma. They wanna hear the story so ABC two years in you get. You get out you gettin a paycheck and all that you were gonna get year, twenty one, twenty two at that point twenty years. Also yours what we out twenty or twenty, almost twenty one May, Rumour says you gotta come out to sea are banned in Austria. You have now been working all the time, so it was a Tuesday night and I went out to go see him, and this is interesting as when I walked up to a place called so creek saloon, result from big old frame, house and garden. It was just a club out in the country and a walk up. I hear the family

her sails grandma. I heard this guitar town that wasn't any louder than the rest of the ban through the wall, but I could hear it like. It was like right there in my room, a tough one. Is that yes and I walked through the door, and I turn and my guy go right, my eyes. What rights Stevie over that has fascinating, thus seen a lot of people down what there's something about the sky. I go out the next while I go out the next week and to go see him again, because I'm really dig in the ban and their drummers light, and my roommate turn the guys who want to get my wanting. It might well be get my roommate up here. He goes really firmly and let us wait for Rodney unanimous support to do a lot. More time goes. Monkeys places panic. I gotta get him up here, so I get up there in a play like four songs with them and a look over Stevie scale. Looking over her shoulder China given a wink you now and the very next day I see comes over to the apartment. He walks in army on plan allowed this Donnie Hathaway LIVE record. Everything is everything Willie weeks and forty. Why?

I'm like also to look at these like Stana, like four inches from me and Starling. But no man go ahead. All man because what die headway High Yeager, this mammoth a records. So we start chat and tell us the man I'd love to work with you, as I think we can do some great stuff. What was it like that? That first time, You played those four songs. I know you taken in the whole band. I know it's just like I did the next dramas going ashore, but on how that works. If he's gonna be upset, yearnest drums whatever by the where you still had that feeling estate playing I mean guided our year was what was the context? The ban was there, a singer was Stevie sing and it was was he just consider like aside guitar player, it was a sigh make out a feature shawls and he sang like you sing a song. There's two guitar players: there's based player, drummer, singer, sallow, singer and sacks player that my friend my roommate, just a black and white way was still.

He's playing at that point was very r and d like he had come from Dallas and his brother Jimmy had really when he heard Jimmy play guitar them. Maybe oughta do right, so he was thing I was like. You know. It was like Freddy King and Eddy tailoring Jimmy Reed and Slim Harper. A budget be became. Funding was his playing at the level at that point already. We're like this guy's gonna be one of the great of all time why you know what he was just Gillis anyway, you know me, but he wasn't as out. Fraud in in grandiose is really the right or we can do anything you want to do, but he what he did he could play. One note you want. That's the coolest note I've ever heard. Is this guy Biome bow wow, you know I just had it. Our records in Germany was like twelve years, always like when he was a sound like our Clapton has even like you. And I was there. He was point Eric laughed and looks like those that sounds like you're cargoes, freebies twelve in us like, so he

just so you know why I hated that scientists pick anything can happen. Fabulous I did so then Stan and their end like so. At that point I mean it's weird because he's just a guy named Stevie to you, Stevie VON Stephen, at that point, aka anyone's, probably like what we talking with this point mid seventies, late, seventy six nineteen. This is like light early, nineteen, seventy seven, Seventy seven, so he still wearing like that sort of that Big Scully capital, where Anne shirts and you know Brogan shoes and pleaded pants and stuff So at that point when he he says you know that that's one of his favorite record. So where do we go from there while he laughed the too fast forward?

the sum a woman Linen Barton, is a singer in Texas, pulled him out of the covers to start a ban, cultural to argue that lasted twenty five or six months, and then it blew partner, turned into dump trouble and that's when I came, he asked me saying one plain: our band so in China, in a fast evolution, eventually ended up to his Stevie and myself and Tommy Shannon amid their stories of all this.

Right. You know, but that became the trio that you know. That's not like the for. I know you ve forbidden seizes lean times, but what was that, like the first time, you guys all got together in a room when it was just the three you in there was all that space now Stevie to play. Well, that's when his guitar plan start changing because even series it to me the musical genus and that he follow that into wish and perfectly the thing we were just talking about and that he went. He knew that he couldn't be a trio format. He could be just a rhythm and get rhythm, obliged Qatar player sweetie immediately start incorporating solos and rhythm all into one caught a thing which I liked her three Qatar players like a four five peace bandwidth, three, but three guys, and he was now you sing and because he was singing all songs. Any develops quickly is drying, develop very very quickly. So now we can start stepping out of the boat. The part of the reason we went from a fight these banned or three themes. Spanned as it seems to me, I D, like a Jimi Hendrix tune. So we did what I says like Hendricks and then areas first, when you guys

We did a boy did vote a child and we did it forever. We did at our whole life, but we did when we do a gig everyone once in a while, we do all Hendricks dogmatic depression and hey Joe and Hannah. You know when everybody else emails. I don't play that shit. We're a blues banned you now and discarded that the rub came became a wedge, has really kind of what happened on the musical side of all was always that like. Excess blues purists, yeah yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah yeah. We not do that should around here. You know we play blues played appropriately and there's a lot of great traditional, a great upholding of tradition and Texas, till lots of them thanks, but we were the ones a relic weary and why cut low, but outcast is like you were doing this wild shit, replanting, loudly Jimi, Hendrix Saws, sardine superstition by Stevie wondering if we discover we were big fans of all these people, then people get the Uno its

loosen and I now I'm gonna have an exciting for you, because just sitting with the blues ban after a while is a drummer I mean I can get monotonous is trying to play it like. Ah me, how many different ways can you play shuffle? I'm sure you could say it. Thousand, but I'm just saying well just sitting in with them. I don't ever I've ever semi. It's ridiculous ceramic, even trying to relate to you on this level but item. I sat with people start playing booze that Bob Bob Bob Bob and you just sit back there It's like, I want to kill myself after one and a half size you might need,

examined that more deeply. You know as well as I shall be really go. Hey you know this and that about your mother. You certainly know like four beats, but no wanted for ways to play the same for beat. I mean in shuffles or like endless, and that's what's actually beautiful about him to me, and I didn't know this until I started doing that, and somebody said: hey man check this out. I mean a pat on the spot. You know, metaphorically, you know, and they want then, and now you're Goin Cookin, Google Chrome. It is really putting the bottom, but there's like Gaga, it's like endless rise like this like. How do you make a stew like nice, meeting, potatoes and care so yeah? What about all your shit and between that makes them really great or somethin like just like a maiden potatoes and carrots right? You know that

that simple really or that complex her. The only way I can compared to what I do is, I guess, if you take a joke and you can just do the joke, you can just stand there and say it. You can act it out. You can have two characters in it talking and you can in their basically taking something that was essentially a shit joke or a dick joke or whatever, and you can. You can actually flesh out into a peace which I guess I don't know what this really know, definitions in countries like what makes a bit what makes a piece, but you can. You can have a little performance piece out of that, and I have always I've just had such an admiration for like musicians, your guys ability to. I don't feel like MIKE what I do as far as this like talking about tax everybody talks, so it's kind of like a German all day with people, so you can immediately think something and then say at the fact that you guys can do that musically.

Like cynically thinkers, think of Phil or think a lick and then just just put as your thinking it play at the way, if I thought, of whatever words I'm saying right now mean to me like that is, is is when you like, really master like an instrument or something like that. You know funny. When I saw your shower and asked any came out about the dogs balls, No balls, audio and other that's funny is sheer. Go that's true. You know a dog, and I was so we gotta get him fixed on. What can we we can have a tear off one piece before she's like not enough, but on play about it. You said it and I m sure, related that's get to somebody else there like so what's the deal was like. It was funny you shit when he said it. That's like when I try to play is now railway plays it. It sounds ass. Now I participated shells when I play it makes people go show how much longer you play like all it all that stuff. So

you Tommy and instead we play and then eventually so how did you do jam for like? I know that I now gone through all this shit, I'm on get self conscious either dragging you through the same now. It's ok. You know I wouldn't try ass different questions, as everybody knows, the story that David Bobby Stuff and all of that you know David Bowe. We saw you actually would you mind telling you gettin booed in France thing just because people know me forgettin boot and fairly analogy. I gotta tell us just as large as the woman Lujan Barton, I had to say it. We fired her from the ban for misconduct, fuel and she gets a big record deal from Jerry Wechsler Way, Where was she in the band she was? It was because of that the validity and she was really in double trouble for just a little bit and she was the lead singer. She sang most all the material, ok, so she's out of the bag. She gets a deal with, but the jury Wechsler discovers here in New York gets her deal on electoral. She does this workers, but the muscle shows

section dawn fry seems always people come in so when's. Your record release comes to be. She goes. You guys, wanna play my record release party, following that there be you, let her go right. She did she do without a spite you think, and while you're hell, I don't know you know. Maybe I could collar and ask your modem, but where there are plans Injurie works, or is there a news like out their dancin and he says great band You guys need to go to Montrose, which really goes on call. My friend, Claude Knobs Omelette talked him about all this way doesn't short or a couple days later. We get it in invitation to go. I got a spy, We never been side when it was that it was in Switzerland. It wasn't in now he was Montrose Switzerland, all these years at those friends. Well, here we go ok so we go and where the only electric banned on this night, because he just slotted ashamed, because there was a time slot in its a jazz festival

well. You know it is eighty we want Rhodesia, they gonna call it international music festivals, it's kind of a mix of a lot of stuff, but that night was all acoustic boys upright and panel in Qatar, sit on stools and that kind of thing traditional, traditional theirs. Word again. We get our coming back to haunt you, gonna become harder to get so we get up there. We got all these electric instruments and stuff and we start plan of people like you think, like they're, like they're sitting in a hurricane or something like like a Bhutto's, I grow like shit. We have seen that we can actually get this on dvd and Yeah knows and it's a bummer because they weren't Moroccan Texas, making like three four five hundred dollars a gig man, the owners of our management group, loudest fifteen grand to do this whole trip. We may we took everything over there. We can't be without argue here. You know why and we were certain backstage and stimulates Amigos, one would think we found that bad. I didn't hear, and

sounds like a year, David Bowe. We would like to meet with your comment which David Boeing they want. Data by the accounts, the rocket aren't amiable the rest working year, and so, That's gonna hell, let's start, and we know that we were there. Another night we played downstairs. I didn't have a gig we're just lolly gag on this wound, and so we we play down the musicians. Bards Jackson, Brown,

guys came through in say, you're in no way you can have my studio, which we did we just recourse and types and all this there is a whole bunch of the story, but I just gotta sat there until we went back to John Hemison, Hey Stevie, looking to do this thing, but we got these tapes, we record a legitimate types and he's in John him. It was our he was. Art are white knight. He was our champion. He loved all the she loved the band. He thought Stephen on the greatest guitar, please it hurts and Robert Johnson LA and he went to. He went to epic Sony, Epic CBS. He is me, there's a gather, Gregg Geller. He said Gregg EAST neither signed these guys up, they see I'll. Do it doesn't get ready to get far anyway cause I'm gonna reassure the whole. Ok label could spin out circulation that fire me for that. So let me also far me for this and he did that and that's what happened and the record came out and I'm your Stevie didn't. Go work with Bobby after the recorded. Do the Turin off. We were now at you. I love about that whole

watching the concert footage of you guys when you get food there in Switzerland for all these years, I thought it was. France is the fact that you could see it affecting you guys talk as you guys would play the song and then and then the issue or whatever they they bow and then, but then, when you guys, you gonna want summits are Stevie shoulders kind of slump a little over. The second he's going to do with saw you cannot the song you guys played you didn't hold back at all and he just went just as hard all you guys. If you didn't hear this, does the sound of the crowd. You would think that the way you guys were saying that you were doing what you always did, which was was kill it, and I got a lot of inspiration out of out of watching that just When what I do or our additional yourself, you know. Sometimes I get these acting executive, you some crazy, stuffed and I'm sitting around you had gone. I gotta go. This is outside my comfort zone and like see and stuff like that, it's just like just plough through this

fuck em. You know what that was integration or to me, because I learned something there and I saw it in action. Wasn't told me that he had this passion in committee was sitting over there on the couch plan. The guitar Yemeni put he put the same thing into it as he is. He would, if we're point, four hundred thousand people cause us just how he lived. Man ass a great example, because I asked how to do this. We need to amend the stakes, get our kind of puddle of more juice into that kind of wishy washy, as he was like alone, a hundred and ten percent all the time. So when you guys are right on a tour bus when he's noodle and around it sounds like he's already playing the show yeah, because got the same passion in the focus in the commemorative. What he's doing as he's not perform, yeah, I mean you know there have been incredible. That was also, as I mean you know like. I was spoil right off the bat you know when you go. You know this is early in my career and I just wanted to talk to Miss Mitchell about this, about the other, death Jimi Hendrix

It's a hard deal when you lose somebody like that in your. U review comes in my case I came in. I was grateful that I had the whole experience. It was a hard thing to lose, but there were so many things that I got from that just what lessons any, I think they were in me, they'd, been they ve been demonstrated where they hadn't really taken Reuben. When you live, many go man. This is a great way to be, and you see that you get the result on every level rather than about money successfully, because you are success was that our music was successful to admit everything to us. We had a great time doing together and that you just go this. It is self evident right now, and you know somebody leads that typically some reserve to show you something you go away. You know what I did that that touch me, that midst somethin and I'm gonna grab onto that. I asked the other of these the great things of life. And unfortunately you don't really fully realise that, after the justice and the profound a saloon somebody, I lost a great friend up trees only a few years ago, and he was the guy like I would compare.

Like, he was their Stevie Raven level. Guy acceptable, unlike stand up- and you know you just don't expect to me- was like forty one years old you not thinking that this can be the last time I get the scene before on that type of thing. So it ends up. Haven't you when you really go back and examined the whole? It's basically experience because I dont off steam was the same thing like it's been friends with Patrice was beyond being friends with them. It was like it what you you walked out public with him and him just messing with people. Was this experience that, like the I've I've tried it, the stories on the pod cast and try to explain what it was like. It's just can't when you're round that level of artist or just just greatness. So I know the worst where there is on offer. The other thing that you don't know what you got till it's gone. You know, DR, shit, yeah, it's close giants nor those rules. True unites wide sticks is like me, and that was a heavy loads

yeah. I learn that awful lesson. I'd like your foot, like your friends, did like it. I can't explain that the friendship is not yours. It's like it's! this thing that given to you and you just have to enjoy it and then you gotta be enjoying it because it's just taken away or it goes in a different direction. One of you want to say, and then you just kind of left there like, you know where you live in the moment. Being able to actually live in the moment to be grateful for your summarised Can you get on my pity party and all the should go back to my catholic guillotine shame and I'll tell you I mean I mean it's true studios when, after he dies, Lite Codec, I really meant a lot more. Like Gonna go half the time I wanted to strangle him go. We were like Others like the brought here. He was like a brother. I never had. He had a brother, real brother and then I go universe, its everything. It's always everything there is Social Europe are our perception of

good and the bad or whatever it is. But essentially it's like ago that everything was wonderful. It was rife and it was really wonderful. I always wondered deserts like you, know the loneliness of the committee on the road. But whenever I hear stories of bans you know being an advantage a man- and you know that just all this shit did you guys look. I've travelled with other comedians stuff in there's like this thing, where you just have to. After wild, be like ok, there's gonna, be the laid guy. There's gonna be the attic there's going to be the pussy hound he's going to be the egomaniac. The duties got to sleep till four like there's, just gonna, be the end I understand that your that guy somehow, but you can't see it because- you're in yourself, so absolutely up, and you are doing that. The annoying the shit out of somebody else, and you have to somehow like I gotta, be honest, going after years of torn without comics in everything this past year, identity towards this comic poverty,

and these are New York I lost and I would have shores argue sports and we went up to towards all of Canada and we basically spent every waking moment essentially with other for about ten days, and we never argued once and all? I was just through years of being he's also really we gotta get along with, but we just a week we haven't, we ended up having a couple inside joke, so we had, which always seems bands always have like inside joke scenario. Iran phrases and we just kind of tore through Canada, making each other laughed throughout the whole thing, and it wasn't until the end he actually version actually misery sector. Rose. What we ve been, we ve done like twenty shows together. If it's all over this goddamn tundra, we ever once you know. I didn't even noticed that we don't be stupid. Fake, cried thing, there was just making each other laugh just saying over the top sensitive stuff. Like I just really like it was a friend.

That dumb shit are. We had all those just kept, you go and they have really we're like these alternate personalities. When we, when we realised that we were like really going insane on each other. The amount was Harold, Ozma S Army air would watch her would do and I go. I know what you did Brady in a bright asia by you to try to have a good tat. We get away when I say that characterise we're like an hour, I'm gone on the other. We have come out of them. We could actually live with our circumstances because you know it gets type. You know that your do you realize like not always a genius periodically. That's also if I had some sort of psychology background as also probably red flags of slowly going insane Now- and I am saying I'm a member- I think I've been actually somewhat restored sanity, but now I'm still working right that all goes down. Seven deadly sins. You don't try to sort it out over your big enough,

To me it knows what was the longest time you ever spent out on tour. Shout cause you guys, like people always say decrees, are you dont tore a yawn torrents like you know the most Oliver began as a week in a half, maybe two weeks but you guys, like you and I do not oppose all. I gotta do yes deal with the insanity my own mind. I don't have to deal with other peoples for once you kind of figure yourself out. You know when you can kind of see what demons given to and of course you got a right that for a while and keep flock and other runs a brick wall, but then hopefully grow from it. You can kind of manage, insanity a little bit, but you guys, like I mean I'm a fucking, out there I did they broke up and then they needed to get back get it for money and they get back for money and within six months they go right back to where they were emotionally thirty years or lie in our laws. Are gonna get a whole thing on that, but I won't get into that. But to answer your question, we

We never came off the road in using double trouble. The answer to the question you know in Texas Flood came out and we started touring. We were like four nine, years we virtually never came home I mean weed. I go out for we'd go out like two months. I come on four like four days and go to Europe for, like five weeks, So how do you like a week? How do you pay your bills? How do you pay your taxes? Do you know why? How does idolizes manager account and I've got a great wife at home or been married for twenty nine years and she kept the whole household together and she was all right with you being on Gonorrhea thinks she's, not we believe a great your home and then like a few those issues when we leave it again

was good. Those eyes you happen. I wife should only be don't stand up tonight, I'm only when there's a tv show on that she wants the watch and I sit down and, like I can't keep my mouth shut. I'm living like a five year old, I sit down, I mean they're gonna be making noise doing something are and will be talking to the tv like it's a person and like I don't do fine like you get like Scatterbrain. You go on the road to long and in you. Finally, you can't like shut it off. Well. Yeah me too happens both ways for me, because when I come home you know She said I was just talking to my wife Betty. She said she has barely been nice since you ve been gone. You now and you know what she says, that without eleven or why, because I get home in a more balanced and all over the place and she's everybody gets thrown wide or by Israel, why she liked better run back into the house and there I M home and Lego, hang on a minute, then a different vibe going on here since you ve been gone, love each other like assimilate back into the general culture.

The other than its my kingdom and I'm busting out so get it. You know said Emily works. You know you know I've. Always I don't. I think instinctively note that are needed to have my house is: I need a room over the garage and I feel like when I come home. It's almost like you know. If he could have like the ban. Except become an off them. Her yeah. I lay just send you in that room and you got a tv. You get some the work out like an elliptical machine, something any gonna like just slowly easier way back into civilization. Billy, I'm not one. I highly recommend that that that very thing you just described it works pretty well, but let's hear about what is I've got as another house in Austin. I got my studio there, so I go over there, my thing, I'm referred to as they should have a place in the country outside often had guesthouse studio was about a hundred and fifty feet from the main house. So when I came back

go over there and the sword in all my work out and pool outside our go swam and do my thing so that kind of like go there go to the house. Stay there go anywhere. It was right to not just kind of like just be like a truck bustin through the wall coming I strangers random house. I know it's my take on a near. You could hear the other side to safeguard his full of shit. Not a word, but if that's all that's what it does I used well, let me a menagerie couple. The question is: who will we get? We lived to crews and along here, so maybe coupled break it up for you some non musical questions because I'm sure obviously people virtually the same. Damn questions. I've asked you. I saw the singing the news. My listeners were asking me about this, billion years getting divorced right, he married he married this woman. He had a company was worth like fifty million bucks and oil company. They ve been together for twenty seven years to get a divorce. He rights a check.

For just under a billion dollars, it was nine hundred and ninety somethin million a nine hundred eighty seven million some something like thirty one sense, some crazy. They had worked out. He writes that check a cheque for almost a billion dollars and she turned it down. Who says I don't I don't know it's like from taxes they might be. They might be heard thing. Is that he's his companies worth twenty million bucks now and she's only getting a billion dollars she's entitled to morbid she helped support him through all those years. What what? What is Europe? Romania had. What did you take on the Brenner got divorced from Germany said goddamn, you use my wife because you know of years. Here's the deal egos. She does. She told me she goes. Was What's he, ours is mine and what's mine is mine and what's yours is mine and my the more the high I don't know me work. Why did they think? I wish that we should have female honest. Why do they like? You know what I feel when I look at it

Thing that is not even about money. Now, it's not it's like Heaven. Space he's thing on house of cards when he turned towards the camera says sexes about everything runs you know you're gonna, get about that. That's not really! A diet here put dollars, insists on a really, but whenever that deep, they want you to feel pain and the thing about it. You know, I think this guy too Think. The reason why she didn't take back take that money is cause that I fucked up. First, while they showed the Czech Aren T, because eventually she cashed it because she had she needs money, the live which is Larry is so you don't have money to live ten twenty lifestyles. The way empty hammer lived. He could act. She could actually save Oakland with that kind of when he got he she this do just he wrote around like a It was even like only a Buick business checks, a little bit longer near YO. Yo figures sums this guy took it out on just like some regular like eat the same checkbook. If you live,

That is too weak. That's insulting a little for what he did and he wrote her name. I just went scribbles global scrabble egg. Tear here you go, I imagine she walked out and was just like waiting. So that's it so I get it I mean. I know I got a billion dollars. This mother fucker has nineteen billion dollars he's all this shit he's ugly, but with that money he's gonna be able to get himself a hot peace that release pretend to like him. He's got enough. Money for every ferrari on the planet doesn't like another billion coming down the road of me. Yet this guy is not going to feel any sort of pain whatsoever. I'm not! Ok, that's everybody is watching is gone. This woman is a gold digging whore and I think it has to do not a hawk gold digger but like. I think it has to do more with emotion,. Everything me I'd? That's me. I don't know anything other than if my wife divorced me. I guess she's been by me four years ago,

I mean if it was something like you know: Hell Hath, no fury like a woman scorn on what the guy down. I think about any that. But if she felt really like like, I had done something Argos. She, like hey I've, been here for years. You know support in this you know that's more than I can we speak to my personal experience. I have never and I'm not in divorce. Happily married, and thank God for now grateful that I am. But now I don't know I mean I don't know what all that means, other than than feelings have no real price autumn. Enough more. They do. Maybe they do and it's not enough. You not only should a letter down easier thought. He should it. Just fake cried ass. He was writing it. Been just he should have shown some sort of pain, and he didn't he probably sad day. You know with his eyebrows up in looking through a dummy. Glasses. I wish you all a million diego I I sweetheart you,

so right. The item, the ethics of ice greatly even made for how long twenty nine years twenty nine years. It's amazing how you keep it going, yeah yeah so far, so good did bring yourself because other bills gonna want to talk about football, so I got yellow cookie today. I know we are actually going to take to study at me because he knows that bake, you. I know you know, that's that thing to that. Oh, it's good shape of a little football. We gotta get a picture this I gotta tell you this is done. Adorable thing. Another man has ever got that fat Larry. Are you bigfoot welfare, not newborn hours, library? The cookie is all about. I actually broach the surgery bigger. You know that

I'm I'm a green bay fancies of people in Texas. Here, though I like Green Bay because their own by the people a Green bay, I love that idea at its agree. I answer. I logic that answer. I love that it's not the billionaire illegal amateur by me by my own gmo, whatever that's fine too, but I love that breakfast or one morning and the fry cook site. Like a shares like Radovan, may only goes on route informed on a love that but is that work he owns a share, but it's not like. I call him up and be like how much money should we give Aaron Rodgers AIR says this. I don't know I don't know, but yeah, you might want to talk about football in Europe. I love a good football game as much as anybody got together when I was at Starbucks and looked down, and I saw the football cooking. That's for bill BAR, I want to get him a cosy up. You're always go with you got. This is ridiculous man. I can't believe you're doing my partners in eight years. You brought me a cookie and then you me, you know I last time I saw you when you're playing the Greek,

anyone shepherd. I brought you my my card all album. Would you guys play right by hearsay, you guys you bought the Maria she soon yeah yeah. I know a little bit about your band yard. I think I'm gonna give me through to the rock and Roll hall farmers we just got inducted were gone. Signor among double trouble. Army is right, the sheer and they called about some stuff about. I was slain by that suit that applied it Jesus that took him long enough and you know I used to be- and I don't know you know what we did. We started wished what we were doing twenty five years ago, and this was a guest while ago. The people did it The vote in the industry and the general public gave us eighteen and a half million vow. Have you talked to Tommy? Do this again It's gonna play when yeah yeah we're gonna play, who we gonna get to sit in that grant. Now you don't know where it's workers took out a soaring, all that our we don't know exactly

as ever in all you guys had the respective everybody's. I would think that all the usual suspects you guys played foreign, then some there's suspicious people out there. I got that Jimmy. Yes, you're Eric well there's all year, we know, we know all these people in Serbia. There's all these young players We would want to John Mayer and those guys would want to come. I bet you, it's just a test testament to the music that you guys put out. They would all want to play with you. So what do I got here you so? I was just mention that I gave you my on vinyl, my album from Carnegie Hall. Now you brought me Steventon double troubled trouble, Texas, hurricane. This like this. Like ten records in Hanover. Let me try while offset Mitya was so big, it's funny because I had saw that certain my studio

You gave me that vinyl on it, I'm gonna. Take that to him because of what we talked about in that right. There is a two hundred Graham vinyl of art. The definitive box set nets, those or forty five hour pm Disco doesn't get any better than that. Unless she were in the studio was there are forty five now that nobody knows a regular twelve, it's like an album, but it spends at forty five european. That's why they're so much so many discs and they're all mine, So what does that? To this end, the Sancho it's better than thirty three and a third I love the zest, the subject is, I don't know where you are now. You know that on your stereo and in whatever you liked about our music, it there's no way that it can sound any better than what's in that box. That's for sale minutes and we just came out with that. You can get those wherever where were they were? You can buy vinyl org, six thousand, so I guess you can get this box it and thirty, three and thirty or forty five european, the forty five Europeans like thick. The cream of the crop, so

get it. I'm gonna go out on a limb here and say that this is gonna, be a collectors item. At some point, I can't believe that you gave this to mean that I gave you I didn't. I didn't pay much only then that's what I'm gonna do. I gave you I gave you, but you shouldn't dick jokes on Russia a man like that I'd whenever they only need scores sound by the way I wanted to be a chameleon. When I was a kid I wanted to be, some hours, our idea people, so we already a smart ass. Maybe you can actually say somethin intelligent turn that into a real comedy there. You go voting like when you were grown up. Let's talk comedy here Chris well, you know like, Richard Prior Love, Jonathan winners did you ever get to see prior encounter? Now I didn't, did you see but the money now I saw on tv and you know the tapes and what not George Carlin Doors. Carlin was like heavy yeah yeah. He was probably the most in either I'm think anyway. It was more prolific

far as it did is, did stand up like all these guys. Now we're just put not special special special man. Trying to do is that's all. He was the one that show that that was possible that every two three years you you know you could add on how many I can you can come up with an hour like his, but I mean it was possible to have is a it least an hour there with special worthy. It was worthy of being recorded at around, like that guy, for me, was seen out for me who is? It was prior Carling, Cosby Kennison in all those all the guys that I watched my dad Foster Brooks. Louis shocking greenwash captain, you know. I love that I stumbled upon, with the Christmas break, you ve ever seen it's a mad mad mad mad world, the US

a long time ago here I that's one of my favorite movies and every once in a while, I gotta own, that think something's wrong on it, and I saw I watched it. There's a guy in Theirs comedian, Dick Sean Dick saw night. Sean plays the guy, then he thinks somebody's doing something bad to his mother and his driving is trying to ours trying to catch Milton the borough, yeah and physically pay him they. Just when he's dancing with this woman in just the over the top emotion of him- and now I watch some of his stand up anyway. Really kind of ahead of his time with, like the physicality, the repeating inactive cadenced. He performed his stuff, any it come from

was able to read up on the guy. He was like a comics comic, never quite hit the mainstream and had a really crazy when he died actually died on stage doing gig down one of colleges down a San, Diego and he's literally onstage, and you know, he's doin a bunch of physical stuff making people laugh. Then he had ass. He had a heart attack did like a phased plan and he just lion and people like three minutes that was part of the act says like Ruhmer death scenario, amendment number two hours of died, onstage used as a reason for that now may get shot. You know an ogre, there's got shot and state out Jackson. He got shot. I don't. I thought No no answer now views on into the memory banks. Now you there's nothing there.

So, like me, right now, I'm some serious. I go who got shown who just died of a heart attack the guy in Canada. Paypal for nobody did die the middle to show to really said he should hate come on. Man pick up the beaten, the guy kept slowing down all sudden everything came crash down the guy like just died God was he a big guy was a big guy, but he fell into the broom kitten. It really hit the guy on the back of the legs. Also, there was no music come who got shot on stage? was the Canadian about luck at death Go out, I laugh You do like on something you know at age fallen into drunk. It's always one August. Unless you don't get back up, but the lifespan in that direction, but basically the guy was lay in their people. Young get out that take a walk thing I was just Joan: Gale was literally die and right in front of them. So our itself, large you through all your old stuff, you're a sport about it. What's what do you got me? Get the Stevens still think coming up we're working?

See working people see, you live the man that can knows an endless way too. Lay a shovel. Do you know I should tell us that have had that ready. I know. You'd asked that I'm gonna be, do you know, that's funny all great artist never know whether, where they gonna be there Don Loris promoters ever so get if you were a hack come in here I swear to God. You would have you to have it all. You would agree what I handed me a one sheet of all the bullet points that you wanted to hit. I'm telling you well lump bullet it I'll do have you have an idea of when you're talking again the about somebody. A few shows in early February out here with Kenny one shepherd elderly and have been the seller, can allay area. Think we're doing Gore. Ok, the canyon club or doing hey, whose ain't, whose end the keyboard, play more young. What you look like more young. That was a Larry as one would somebody me up in there and I listened to their nose like his name's Riley Osborne, Riley Osborne,

the latest keyboard play I ever saw me is also common Humphrey Bogart of piano. I mean these Yeah. Who said that? Allow me bill barriers, Old Fox, lad, maybe undergoes Maria, I guess I can't deal I can gather- just a guy, just ways he's pissed off anyway. It's ok, I love was when it was high time to take a solo just how he just went in so many different, just effortlessly. I just I don't know just watching you, one of my favorite thing not only to watch a great musician. It is they that extra added that he makes it look like he's not even do not even trying- and I was watching you the way you will play in the shuffle unjust. The whole thing are you doing like just always fan transfixed, some of this stuff that I loved, which it can you play more like that somebody asked Rummy, did Einstein swaying and that type of thing is that you really had what s great about. That was all the links that you had, no one that you had those in the bag, but you played for the song on alone,

other ones. We just played straighten sit back and let Stevie you know run with it. It was I'm just tremendous amount of respect for you as a musician, and I was to get to know you. Obviously as a person- and I well, then I'm gonna be able to get out to Ostend this year. I might be were not there in March, First South South West, to promote the all things comedy network here, and, if you're around, if you'd like to come out to the show Europe come on down the only stipulations you gotta bring, you shall be. I want to see ok that can be arranged. Should I be done all right. I thereby Monday morning podcast with special guess, legendary Drummer Chris late and thank you for listening, go fuck yourselves. I will talk to you next time. Our idea, you didn't go anywhere digits, I'm still here with Chris Lightner forgot to bring something. This is the first Monday morning, podcast epilogue just like the streets of San Francisco. You also brought me a jar of large pure pork leaf. Lard keep refrigerated. What is this? What is behind it?

I brought it t because I saw your pie crushed as yeah yeah down the track, the old school during the trick of pastry, and are you not and I've done this a couple times, but somebody chefs deal you take butter, and mix that and with it, when you make your par crushed and you can write chicken in it or whatever. You know it's off. This is called D. I day do it's died. You weigh it's a group in Austin Chefs stuffy process dude, I do a or, as I say they do day, I'd be of such a moron, butchers shops and supper club and I'll get my shadow here to four zero. Six men, Road, Austin Texas, in his diet, do dot com, so people can actually order. Some of their large yeah, the highly recommended highly like a mighty recommended lard, why our shit? What am I gonna tour of Australia coming up when I get back, I wanna keep this refrigerated now. Definitely.

I'll give it a shot of November. About? The butter and lighting alright, Dago Dagon little more information, diet, do butcher shop and Supper Club Jesus Christ. Am I see you, I gotta bring your little give fag stuff figure out what the hell you are. I once again christlike everybody. Thank you for listening likes bill, but.