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Morning Joe 12/18/20

2020-12-18

Early in-person voting began Monday in Georgia for the Senate runoff, and voters are coming out in record numbers, according to reports. The Morning Joe panel discusses.

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see, bowling branched icon for details, and I want you to be confident about your vote, our stay german David Shaver in the centres- will tell you we're on this time. We're watch we're going to secure the balance, we're going to secure the drop boxes and we're going to make sure that every absentee ballot is counted for them, Oh George, the doorway require said our vote today, and if you don't want a vote by male, I'm told him person. Voting is already starting to it is this? Is it's a problem with you? when you're arguing against yourself, so the vote wasn't safe and Joe Biden one this state, but but now that then got a couple of Senate races. Everything's gonna, be ok, Willie
that argument is so crazy, all points and then in the middle of it when he says to oh, your vote. Secure. If we ve had crazy people running around this state spreading conspiracy theories for the past month, saying it's not in the background. The chance start. Stop the steel. Stop the steel as the vice president. Knighted states stands there and listens to that Chad. It's amazing. I mean they ve been saying for sick weeks now that the deceased Hugo Chavez is tampering with voting machines and changing election results in that's what they think about election in the state of Georgia which, by the way for the presidential election, the vote has been counted three times the republican governor, the Republicans secretary of state in that state have said: yes, everything was legitimate and good here, but they painted themselves in that corner. Saying that system is rigged and corrupt, and now they're asking republic to go vote in that system. In a couple of weeks
the work layer in it. It is state where there is a civil war going on with the republican Party. You bet, Hugo Chavez, Maybe Fidel Castro. Are you heard Stalin's name thrown in there our somehow working. I guess Brian Camp heads Secretary of State have their wages borne out by some? Are there any conspiracy with Brian count? Then the George the Georgia governor and the charges Secretary of State- and somehow getting Kelly LAW, floor, illegally on the ballot so even worse, of the people that my pants telling them to vote for you, ve got to where's running around with a very big megaphone saying she stole the election it should be, dug Collins fast talking down collins on them.
So it's bizarre well long with William me. This morning we have Washington Agar for BBC World NEWS. America cat, Kay we're waiting for her exclusive interview with Hugo Chavez later. This were also MSNBC national affairs unless an executive, editor of the current Georgia Yes, exactly did ever went down in Georgia and the house hell and high water podcast John? I omit make it has a morning all she's. Looking for exclusive interview with Fidel Castro some of you will get Castro and sheds and they'll be fantastic. Will start Willie where the vice president was yesterday. Where controlled the Senate rests in the coming weeks. Let's start in Georgia, though, if anyone can those two guys. It's Mika she'll find away but yellow start in Georgia, where voters are coming out in record numbers. Now for that high
take Senate, run off early in person, voting began on Monday and the turn out What's the records set on the first day of early voting in the weeks before the November third election, the New York Times What's this on Monday, during the first day of in person, early voting about one Sixty eight thousand Georgia voter showed up at the polls by comparison, nearly one hundred twenty nine thousand people cast ballots on the first day of early voting for the general election and nearly ninety one thousand people voted on the first day. Two thousand sixteen election accordingly and Journal constitution more than nine hundred fourteen thousand people already have cast ballot in the run off through stay so John Harmon you been covering this race. Obviously this level of turn out in early can t voting a good sign, a hopeful sign for the two Democrats, hoping to unseat the two Republicans there
rights are hey, Willie Man, Joe, could see on this Friday morning. Thank God. It's Friday, you know, that the key challenge right, if you're, that, if you're Raphia, Ward ACT and John US off is, is turn out in this european. This run off it, it is a story. We all know that turn out Raw runoff elections tend to be low, turn out affairs usually see even after I. Sometimes particularly after a big turn out election. Like you had the presidential election in Georgia, you see turnoff fall off the cliff two months later. The irregular boaters don't come out only the hard core partisans, the ragged most regular boat or show up, and that sort of reinforces the normal partisan dynamics of that would be a good outcome for for four David Produce for Kennedy Leffler. So everyone's looking like, what's going to happen, what turnout in Georgia and Willie you cited that those those in person about numbers. They blew the doors off on the first day at its been goin on all week, ban its looks a lot like what it was
like Georgia were in the room, to the November elections, but here's the other thing in in the November elections? They did one point: three million vote by male absentee boats. Ok, one point three million about almost while about a quarter. Total votes in Georgia, which about five million about a quarter, were absentee ballots by male right, the number I've been requested for the run off. They sent out one point: six million ballots. So it's there three hundred thousand over the general election in November, which is like unprecedented and if one point six million ballots come in by mail and in person. Early voting continues on this path. really really good news for us. Often ward, I've got doesn't mean they're gonna win the race, and I still think you know smart money says that it suddenly, they're gonna win both of those racists, but the turnout, is really encouraging. Right now for Democrats They can try to rebuild sort of the kind of, turnout and the kind of
constituency model that help by when Georgia of you know before well actually right. After the presidential election Caddy K, I wouldn't say that, publicans were met. Better than even odds to when both of those impasse. We went both of those going away, but you look at these numbers and then you like the fact that republic, and been doing everything they can do to oppress, vowed, bye, bye, their own vote by Having the civil war, Donald Trump has been stirring things up so badly. And then add on top of that, the Republicans just don't do well when Donald Trump is not on the ballot himself, you can look at the elections in two thousand. Seventeen them in terms in two thousand eight team. Why did they material races in the south, in two thousand nineteen Democrats, three, do when I'm not so this, for any other reason than its true Democrats actually do now have a shot, and they
Donald Trump to thank for it yeah. I agree. The odds would probably still favour just the Republicans, but there's gotta be some warning signs for them. The fact that my has been down. There are four times is in it an indication of how tight they realize this races and how seriously they are taken this this race, from the fact that the fact that he is you know it ironically telling people it's super peachy unsafe to be voting by mail and to be doing all of that early voting, in fact that the early voting by the way guises across the street from the war Martin a pizza hearts and make sure that you find it all of them indications that they weren't saying during the general election. I think that another sign that they concerned about their numbers, because otherwise, why would he be down there? Why would he be pushing the very thing that they have been saying all along with so fraudulent and so open took her so an then the fact Donald Trump is the person that drove up? Not just right,
American turn out in the general election, but on the democratic side as well not? The reason we had such massive numbers in November was precisely because of Donald Trump and Donald Trump. Isn't this there are warning signs you you'd still have to if, if but he asked you to put your considerable piggy bank money, a sum of one side or the other you probably just because its Georgia think has it As far as new, as it might have suggested, zero in the general election and still just about favours it's not gonna. Win too, I would say still just about favours the Republicans at least winning. One of those I wish doesn't help very much, but I thought my pencil speech was really interesting and and then that stop the steel, that's what they're still focused on you still have the president, calling, as you say, civil war colleague, Brian Camper fool. How does that help them. Now: a million ballots having cast in the state of Georgia, as of yesterday huge early numbers, will see. Obviously, control of the Senate hangs.
the balanced speaking of the Senate Majority Leader Mix Mcconnell wardrobe Lookin Sanders not to challenge Joe binds electoral college certification next month, but Senator Elect. Tommy Tub Urville of Alabama may not comply with that. The former in fact, more suggested, while campaigning in Georgia that he would soon or a challenge to the election results, one that's being led by fellow out I'm a lawmaker congressmen Mo Brooks Tub. Reveals campaign hinted earlier this week that he is quote seriously considering that reactive. Men's President Trump tweeted of tab reveal quote that because he is a great champion and a man of courage, more republican senator, should follow his lead. We had a landslide victory, wrote the president and then swindled away by the Republican Party, but we caught them do something so Joe. It appears present has found at least one- and this is quite away for these Senator Elect to enter the Senate by fine, the majority leader as his first act,
There really is something and John. I only can you imagine your first stack defying the majority leader, who had the senators not to do. Then that's not going to be good for this state of Alabama to buy taking part in the president's attempt to stage a coup again. the incoming president, the United States, and do everything he can do- the undermine a mess because faith in there actual system might let's say, piss off Miss Mcconnell one to their undermine american democracy. three do the work and Vladimir Putin. Kim Jong own the Iranian all as have been trying to do for decades now get Americans to have one faith in their own democratic institution. That's that's! Quite a try.
factor for Tommy Tab, Urville, a guy that think awesome still his family flight in world war to disarm, socialist Now here's the thing show the best thing about. This is not just that the trifecta you got three of those things and then here's the fourth thing and you do all that and you're going to fail because you're, the guy in the Senate, who disputes? actual college, that just opens a vote in the United States Senate right and on the outside. You know the same. Happens, okay, so now January sex, because data Rob has got these two moronic lackeys on one of the house. I won the set aside to dispute. There was so the about the sort of forgot, syrupy results of electoral college. We now get have a boat in the House and Senate over whether to to push the process into. The strange it back to the house with the delegations and all that, but that's not where you go. First, the first, as you have an upper down vote in the House and Senate that boat
doomed to fail in the house, because democratic control, the House and that's the end of the story. It's probably get a fail in the Senate to because there's gonna be enough. Republicans we're gonna break tromp lunacy do not dispute. The electoral college show you Tommy, Tumblr, billow, you're gonna do all the things you just said, and it's all been a bit for the cause of not it's not going to change anything. It's not going to actually overturned the electoral college, so you're gonna fail in the process. All you're doing here is making Donald Trump happy and in accomplishing the other three things that you laid out that are all bad things, so I mean, dear God, Could you cause you about magic aid? Less operational, more more pathetic way of making your debut in national politics than that. What Tommy tolerable explained? Do it? Just it's mine blowing maybe I need to say a few words stir couch avail come here for a second, this here's a case
Stan you knew it there s an island stand it sometimes when you get the ball in your running down the field and people are cheer and you like the look up in the stands and maybe ants around and play for the cheap seats. But let me let me we put it down, is doubly dean. Childer says let let me put the grass down there were the goats can eat it. Ok, here's you're gonna be, do it right, you can be pissed, your coaches names, mitzvah conall, and he forget it and yeah you may suffer, but so will the people State of alabama- that's number one number two all those fancy things you don't want to hear about undermining american democracy was away, so I won't talk about that, but there are three the players it you're on the field with yours, MA am every one of them to make. A vote then
make them deeply unpopular in their homes stay. You know that be like you being a quarter back and intentionally lazy, I'm all right, where the middle high in the air they get a wide receiver extended up, is high, seeking get extended, so its head, knocked off We like you doing that three or four times in a row. So what are they happens to you when you go back to the huddle. After doing that, are intentionally in actually said your fellow players up their heads knocked off at home, just so you can play the chief it's. That my friend is what Bear Bryant might call bad. For I dont actually now with bare bride ever used the term bad form but I'm using it here, that's bad form and that bad for you and that's bad for the
People State of Alabama Donald Trump, he's gonna, be governed in Scotland and get lots of money in Saudi Arabia and Russia. China, gutter at all, across the world you're still gonna be on that field. With your phone Oh players who you're setting up to get there knocked off. So one might not look at president trumps tweets at this point. I might look around at the people that you gonna be working with every day for them six years. and believe you me, talking to somebody who's been there and who want stands european and am very small boat, so big careful where the watch you do codes tab prevail, because you pay for it by plane for the cheap seats
really that's only advice I have for coach tub reveal rather than don't eighteen year old boys after you beat him in the eye. and does only too new pieces of advice after the couch this morning. But still he will he not only upset Mitch Mcconnell. He will set up fellow republican senators. They have to vote now and then killed by their own base when they go home because they're gonna to now John phone than ever to Senator Republican in the Senate was asked about this. It specifically about Tommy Taverne. He simply said it is time to move on. Don't do this was his message to Tommy Tankerville and to your point, looking up into the seats for the approval. As you run down the feel of one fan, Donald Trump, you set it right, tromp after Tommy Topical runs passed. Him is leaving the stadium two weeks after that boat on January sets he's gone. Are we playing God? So it's a strange phantom. I too, when he's leaving the game, let's turn
to a major story with national security implications, hackers broke in. several. U S federal agencies in private companies and now we're learning more about the scope of the vast cyber attack linked to run an intelligence, you asshole, those fear, hackers use an array of tools and previously unknown tactics to break into government networks, the state, defence, homeland, security, commerce and treasure departments all were targeted, and yesterday let it go reported the Department of Energy and its national Nuclear Security Administration, which maintains the nuclear stockpile also was breached. cyber security and infrastructure security agency issued an alert yesterday morning quote, has determine that this threat poses a Eve risk it went on removing this threat actor. from compromise environments will be highly complex and challenging. This is a patient while resource and focused adversary. My
we're soft announced yesterday and also was targeted in the cyber attack among more Forty other organizations start as early as March of this year- it's not just the federal. government. The intercept is reporting russian hackers breach. The city network of Austin Texas, Johnny now national Security, correspondent for political and MSNBC contributor Natasha, or Trans she's been covering the story closely Natasha Good Morning. So let us take a step back before we dig specifically into story How this was detected in who exactly it appears, has pull this off.
As this was initially detected by a cyber security, firm called fire. I and they initially detected it by no missing some suspicious activity in their own networks, nay looked into it and they realise that there is a vulnerability and software that was developed by a cold solar wins which is used across the federal government. It's kind of an ip management software that used by many different federal agencies and what happened was fire. I discovered that there was a backdoor. Essentially that was placed into solar wind is that was allowing the hackers to compromise that software and then gig shoe the federal agencies. That way now solar wins, doesn't itself, No, you are at now asked how day or compromised so that remains to be seen, but the U S government has not officially pointed a thing:
russian hackers by cyber security experts and security experts were long say that this has all the hallmarks of a russian intelligence operation. Obviously not sure. Detaches way. We look at your piece. Nuclear weapons agency was targeted, we're tired, but the nuclear stockpile here a grave risk says the Cyber security agency inside homeland security. What exactly happen with the nuclear agency and how concerned they about that compromise. there are many concerns. The hackers appears to have gotten into that. If our energies network, specifically, they got ensure the networks of EAST Andean, was almost national labs, which conducted humming research related to civil nuclear power. They got into the National Nuclear Security Administrations Office of secure transportation, which is tasked with moving enriched uranium, and they don't appear to have common
Has any of the ski court of national security capabilities of the Department of Energy, but they were able to borrow into these networks and appointment of energy really doesn't know how much damage these hackers were able to do yet wearing my sources. The energy officials were saying yesterday when they were briefing that that apartment on this issue that it may be weeks before they finally are able to determine what the hackers were actually able to access what they stall if anything and the extent of the damage, because right now what they were able to locate activity, suspicious activity and roughly five of the sub agencies of the apartment of energy, including the nuclear either national declares a security administration, nay, don't know. Yet that's extended that and I think that's what's worrying. Folks. Most Experts are saying: there's an I take years to unwind, believe it or not. We have not heard from the President of the United States about this attack on the United States, but here President Elect Joe Biden, strong
condemning the suspected russian hack yesterday in a statement which reads in part, we will dealing with this breach a top priority from the moment we take office. But a good defence is not enough. We need to disrupt and deter our adversaries from undertaking significant cyber attacks. In the first place, we will do by, among other things, imposing substantial costs and those responsible for it, malicious attacks, Catty Kay astounding that these sitting, president of the United States, is so upset. With overturning the election that he is addressed even in a pro forma way. This attack on America. So we first heard about this attack earlier this week and we ve been waiting every single day. Well, I've been doing reporting on this interview, People in the cybersecurity world waiting for the president to say something and still nothing, and yet it seems this is the biggest cyber attack on it can government ever to have taken place, and so far
the president's seems to have been spending nearly all of his energy and actually so happy carries in the Senate around intelligence or attention has been focused on the election of weather, is fraudulent, which it wasn't a not on this attack, but Natasha just wanted to ask you something that seems the distinction between him, and maybe it's not a very important distinction between whether, if it is the rule and they got into the agencies and they just sat there and they watched so it was classic espionage or whether they got into the agencies and they stole something took something and acted in a much more offensive way. Is that distinction worth making and do we know whether this was just espionage old. Whether this was an attack in some was taken, in which case I guess it is more like a declaration of war
think it sends an important distinction and the investigators were looking into this core. Essentially retracing the hacker stops here. They don't know yeah that's again, and what is the most concerning aspect of this is that it could have been just a really good spying operation, in which case you know the Russians, one, where's, the Russians. They would have gleaned important insight into what these federal agencies were doing and potentially even if they did not getting access to classified information by if it was a project in an operation that was an intellectually steel secrets steel things that perhaps they would have been able to get into had they not been able to breach these networks, then that does seem a bit different, but right now what a suspect is that this was just laying while they were looking waiting watching seeing how much they could they can get into these networks have deep they could get an add on
hackers and twenty sixteen who are primarily concerned with disruption in with you, in undermining people's confidence in the legitimacy of the votes these hackers were more concerned with just spying right now, we still don't know what they were able to find out about the garden stunning because of course, America's invested, tens of billions of dollars and cyber security since the two thousand. Sixteen election political unity sure Bertrand, fascinating peace thanks. So much good to see you still ahead this morning on morning, Joe and other day of record high corona virus cases in hospitals barely holding on, I see use in California just about out of bed now, while New York City takes drastic, measures to save space, was vice president. My pants expected yet the covert vaccine on live television this morning, but what president trumped up to take part in efforts to convince the public? The vaccine is safe,
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Yesterday members of the vaccines and related biological products, Advisory committee voted twenty two zero in favour of authorization with one abstention the FDA is expected to, I agree with the recommendation in an official capacity, could be as soon as today joining us now. Infectious diseases, physician and medical director of the special pathogens unit Boston, university, school of medicine, Doktor knew he'd, Vidalia, she's, an NBC News and MSNBC medical contributor doktor. Ideally, it's good to see you how this again is the modern, a news to go in the back last week of the Pfizer authorization,
let's another tool in our toolbox in autumn undernourished vaccine. The advantages of it are naturally store, but much lower, much higher temperatures, but in distorted most of the freezers and bridges that ask those in clinics usually acts as a dignity. Gonna be helpful in areas that made me. Maybe do not have that infrastructure to be able to restore the pies her back. The that's one thing that the reason Madonna saw a twenty two zero compared to further that some people turn The vote was actually that Madeira vaccines looking for emergencies, authorization for those over eighteen years of age, whereas that Pfizer had sixteen and seventeen year olds as part of their power in some of the members of the committee at the end of it in committee, at an issue it so few number of people in that age group by the five. There is good news. One thing: I will point out that, together with either and modernity vessel, if everything goes as planned
What about a hundred and fifty million and not vaccinate about hundred fifty million people? To that happen? a country a little less than half of our country and so were really still waiting for Asters echoes data as well as Buntline toxins data in January. That's gonna help build a gap so dark. Bulgaria. How is this rule out going as we hit the end of the week here? It started on Monday with those historic pictures of nurses Injected in New York City in the day later, in New Jersey and across the country, going as plan will they make tweaks whether things that need to change to make sure this gets quickly to the people who need it for them. Sport has been smoothly. No, of course you ve got the winter storm here in the north Eastern and that, as far as I know, has caused many believe that the initiative tells you remembered, had been variables that could be out of our control that could affect the hugely particularly with the winter happening around. I'm my vaccine athlete the Pfizer by an impact in this morning at nine o clock
so in our own hospitals in Boston, his button bright movie, but there are reports that Pfizer's thing that it has doses in the warehouse by looking for guidance on how to get the deliberate. That's one question about what happened with the upcoming doses in the next couple of weeks, because some hospitals are reporting didn't have been told by their state. Think they're gonna be getting back, you're doses, so that the data about women, what exactly is going on merit this dog there. and carry you look at the numbers still a large number of american suspicious about the vaccine and we're going to be seeing like pants later today get the vaccine and yet not Donald, Some word that he's concerned about the anti vaccines being offended He actually you seen on tv getting that vaccine and internal The communication side of this it does seem the president could have an absolute
critical role, because we know that, minority communities there are higher than amongst white communities. Groups of people who are sceptical fur understand the historical reasons about this vaccine, but the other group amongst which there are very high levels of scepticism, is why people living in rural communities. Well, that's exactly the kind of people. The dog tromp could impact. If he was out, then Believe me. I think that some question about whether Donald Trump, because he had an anti body treatment when he was infected with covered, Should be giving the vaccine already but even it didn't go on television and get the vaccine there are. Certainly, he could could do on their doctor too, get the message out: there's pot of communications campaign to encourage his supporters, in particular those people in rural areas to go ahead and get the vaccine
finally Gary and an inner trusted messenger. This is really a shore, our communication strategy, that we ve used in all that nation strategy than the middle about great, regular, bad nations, and so your point about at least even so there's a couple complicating Oceans, in terms that I didn't tranche is because he recently had the infection, and so what the CDC had said is that within three months, that leave is unlikely to have a reintroduction, of course he's gotten Markel antibodies. The question is: did he develop another than immunity? There is nothing stopping them from getting the back in. If you wanted to be defined, That's ok, however, the reason he should be out helping is because his own administration place that the big role the operation were bidden getting these on on them, And having the president get behind it, and I make a big impact and really try to close that put a political divide that we ve seen in every other part of this banana response. So far,.
So John. Obviously, there is a concerted effort out there among people that Donald Trump listens to in the media world online world people like his in all his life. the fence team. If we can still call them that out trying to overturn the election, who are pushing the aid, That the vaccine should not be trusted. We know he listens to those people. yet we do well in and look spent one of the realities of the entire the prospect of the vaccine and now the reality of the vaccine, is there is in addition to people who are skip of sceptical about the vaccine, about vaccines in general, about there Efficacy about potential side effects. People who have communities in this country are bad histories, would needles being job in their arms, all that's out there, and then there is also a
spirits in theory, driven fringe, which is not a small fringe in America, the Anti backs world and the anti backs world is is, as I say, it's it's a fringe, but it's not smart. Our millions of people here who genuinely have eight a profound, anti scientific conviction that vaccines are not just not to be trusted, but our generally a pernicious force in modern life and and those anti boxers have been problematic. We ve seen the outbreaks of of of of of epidemics and diseases that that We thought we got rid of in the few years because of anti back sentiment around the country- and they are a part about troms coalition- is one of the you know just in the way that the queue and on crowd is also an overlap with the maggots crowd. The anti backs crowd overlaps with the Maghreb crowd, and so I've been curious all long, whether Donald Trump, who goes out of his way. Now, to offend the conspiracy
theory. Driven parts of its coalition will never go shot. I was never has taken great pains, not to criticise the queue and on people is. Try going to do something that risk alienating the anti backs part of this coalition going forward. Not I think you know, there's some really significant questions about it, and I want to turn this question to the doktor and ask that whether help I mean I am I to me at. There are lots of challenges here, but the notion that the anti vex sense, that's out there is Is that gonna be at its peak and the consumer theories are flying in America more right now than they ever have been. How much problem. You think this particular version of this is going to be for in the kind of vaccination levels that we need I think the intersection of all the dynamic that is talked about are rarely worrisome may as well, because, as you pointed out, even before the damage, the W H already in the back and hesitancy other taught and global health issue- and we are seeing lots
measles outbreak measle back in about a violent action that we had back in sport for decades. There is think them other the highest rate of outbreaks both in Europe and United States borders. Reason it's an area. The intersection went that with all the other dynamic, but in a minority new immigrants merely spilling suspicious of the government. You have the rural communities as Erika about really concerning, but is also worrisome, because on the flip side, you know I, like it this vaccine this morning, I am acutely aware of the privileged I'm doing it, because I think he's gonna, help and kroes. Does that sound communication and really serve instil some confidence, but acutely aware that there is not just millions of people in the line behind me, but billion globally does seen as something we need to get out there and and you're gonna see almost all are already in inequity, developing forgetting that back in everywhere. Now you have this group of people who actually have access and don't want the best thing we could support from grab. I'm sure you know about grub. They do
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our I dug Fidel. Thank you. So much for being with us is always we really appreciate it out, for the latter for years. Donald Trump has insulted his way through the presidency with Senate Republicans. always turning a blind eye do. Do we really need to go over the list, for you do you do you need to have us, talk about all the ways he insulted people in his own party. Now that name calling the vulgar varieties. He you know and what he called a mean. TED crews, for instance, it it starts with a p. We can't really say it here the Voluntarily Windsor Man, talk about a year ago. Stream vulgarity going out of
an old trumps mouth over the past year dump. That's that on the record and we could even take today I notice that if we were in front of a court but let's talk about what happened yesterday when staffer for Joe Biden, cursed during an interview Marco Rubio, among others were shocked, shot stand deeply saddened about it. Dogs about unity and healing, but you want to know what they really think really other person who wants to be the next. Why, as Deputy called republic, This is, after all, a guy. who in campaigning accused down. tromp of having a little piece, bring in right now. Com is for the Washington post. Karen totally use new up. That is about republican satin does like.
for where words and and Bang crowd and they had the public's I mean seriously Karen, I mean got a guy that I'm sorry you gotta say it when he was painting, he told us body that Donald Trump at a small penis and now he's Pope France's he's a moral arbiter of of of what is vulgar and what is not vulgar. and who knew he was such a close reader of glamour magazine. I now Sir You know, General Mally deadline to Swears alliance, has acknowledged that she wishes that she had used differ words in that interview, but once interesting to me is there If you go on reading the argue, she
actually making the opposite point that you would think she was making. If all you ran, was the reactions to her interview. Her wait did she is making its sheet addressing the scepticism that a lot of Democrats have about Joe Biden ability to work with the Republican I'm Capitol Hill and what she says is whatever you think of that, whatever you think of Mitch, Macao Joe Biden is determined to work with them He is determined to compromise with them, because we have a lot of problems and anybody who has listened to the last one in minutes and the show It's been a litany of those problems This country has a lot of problems and you are only going to be able to solve them by getting things die so nice. Just marker Rubia, but Alliance
lie, Republicans, including the White House Press secretary telling me just were so offended by this word. Apparently Cayley Mcnally has never met her boss, they just couldn't see, pass the word. The larger point that that General Mally John was making you know. Catty care is so preposterous say they also Marco and the rest of the gang get out there. Fainting couches, because near at hand, had been mean the Republicans impasse tweets a I mean. You. We don't have to expand the universe. We can just talk about why Donald Trump has said about make in me and end put those fears teen twenty thirty tweets up I would go well beyond anything and by the way I never heard Marco come out. and criticise Donald Trump when he called Mika Psycho, we sent you
bleeding badly from a phase live when they occur me of martyr. Twelve thirteen times said I should be sent to jail. heard Marco say anything when actually the husband of lorry the President, the United States, please stop bringing pain and a hardship to my family law his parents and me we can move forward as long as you're doing this and, Tromp told them basically to go to Hell, he was going keep doing it. I never heard ever heard. Markka Rubio is speaking out about just how grotesque that was not that he was attacking me in saying I be sent to jail for life or executed, but for
continuing to slander a woman who's been dead for nineteen years and having our parents and having her husband, still hear about it, my dear you did you hear because I to earmark a Ruby Yosemite, did you re Marco rodeos anything about that was a shocked about that. It has. He said anything this week when the President of the United States called a fellow, were. Blacken governor of fool on Twitter, thing now, I'm in a bit- and I think you know the Republicans Writ large- have to decide that they are going to do a total pass on criticising anything. Anyone says on Twitter. Having accepted Donald Trump and set on twitter for the last four years we ve all lived as a nation for forty is kind of on edge I think this is a level of sort of PTSD that everybody has from
An old trumps twitter feed, just wondering who is gonna, be the next v TIM, all the press and I are in the language that he uses on Twitter and if you said he's getting people on Twitter Karen can I get back to us with something. This is the substance of the route between the Biden Camp and the Republicans, because what it hearing from the republic inside. I guess this is more pertinent about That there is any willingness from Mitch Mcconnell side to do was Biden. wants to do, which is to try and get things done or Colonel gonna come into this as he went as he said, he went into the Obama present with a single goal of making sure that this was a failed. didn't see you hearing anything from Mcdonald's team at you. This could be a moment when Mcconnell realises somebody ship and getting things done would be beneficial
while it is worth noting that Mcconnell and Joe Biden do have a personal history back during the Obama presidency, us talk to each other being able to cut deals. Does that mean anything in the current environment, or perhaps the assumption that Joe Biden, as and he is very likely to be a one term. President- could also changed the dynamic here. I think the thing to keep an eye on is not what anybody is saying, but take a look This corona virus economic aid package and look where there are and how that moves as an indicator, perhaps- and maybe I'm just being a Christmas season- optimist here- whether there really is any hope that car and the new White House can can get things done minutes not just the
Hocker see over language here, it's where republic like marker Rubio choose to get their backs up. We ve had a president for the last six weeks, trying to overturn a free and fair election. We hear a lot about that. In fact, we don't hear much at all from most report. cons about that, but when find a nugget in a glamour magazine that they feel like can be shouted out with some mock outrage, they're all over it. And it's me again: I got all the respecting the world progenitor Mally Dylan, but staffer, as opposed to principle for, as opposed to president ass bomb has opposed to the substance of what Donald Trump has said from from the White House, and it is twitter feed which is not just the usable Gary's. I don't care, I personally profanity as you know. Well, I am a great fan of like it's the racism, the sex I know it's the racism, the sexism, the xenophobia, the cruelty them
Korea, it's like your truck behaviour in its public communications. It's not that it uses Herschel language. It's that he expresses horse sentiments towards no telling members of Congress would Brown skin the go back to Africa. You now go back to their home countries. It's there. It's it's the stuff that Trump has done in substance, what he said in substance, the tone that he said and, as you point out the large a question of impugning the basic the Craddock, the basic? mechanic petitions of the country. These are the things that Republicans give it a pass to utter eating. hear about the debate about profanity. It's just to your point. Where are what are the things that you care about and the notion that Marco Rubio is going to throw a hissy fit over a single F bomb by a staffer? It beggars belief that I am afraid it's right. Caddy says the truth if their words as in the world, if there were, can this agency in the world, of course,
applicants will also hey. You know what we can't we're in no position to criticise, anyone's profanity. We're a capitulation to criticise what anybody ever set on Twitter having tolerated what we tolerate from Donald Trump, but unfortunately, there is no justice in the world and these p or when it comes to these hypocrites, I'm referring to are utterly blind to two key, a common sense that would leave them down that path. So we are going to see Attended rigged, The calls in here confirmation over her twitter feed people. We will all point out that people that Republics are being hypocritical, they will, care afraid that that, but that is the world. There were headed towards right now, which is going to be all of these Republicans, try to put Donald Trump and how they tolerated downturns, behaviour down the memory, hole and pretend as if they had never happened I'm afraid. That's not gonna! Be that easy for me and a lot of other people to forget
they're trying to see fit guide. Karin junker Why not a pattern here you know I wonder whether you know that genuinely Dylan's choice of words would have been at. All news worry if it was a nail deputy chief of staff, certainly those of us who lived her hair lackeys or Rama man. You all now know what kind of language they regularly used near at hand and is being charged with being too partisan to hold a job that was raised. Held by MID Mulvaney, the founder of the Freedom cock, a Sunday Havel and, of course, biting its being questioned whether she has the right to use the doktor dial doctor with regard to her written education, when nobody re sad as I can recall at least about Henry Kissinger so their markets in Europe.
Instances all seem to be women. Then that no doubt about it. It is ridiculous and again the guy that is destroying a hissing fit over a swear. Word in glamour magazine, I think, is likely the only major presidential candidate ever to attack when it opponents. because of the size of his penis He is the one giving us moral lacks, so the Washington Post Karen Tunnel D, thank you so much and by the way, John, I remember the body to know about me. You want to see we'll vulgar thrown around John you and me on your podcast, I'm not proud of it at all. I mean my mother regularly washed my mouth itself, soap, it's just one of my many vices, but I tell you why you might one have a tally board for the pod get when I was on your part, Cassa one side,
And then you know what scarface at the same time and see what language is rougher some one, a bit of a tyrant, Tino Film, their magellan I'll, say you now I've I've I've going on the paragraphs on How- and I wonder I got square jars going for the various gas and I will say of all the guests on this package. That's been running since nineteen forty three the two biggest up, autopsies profanity you, Nicole Wall ass. It turns out your boat, the biggest potty mouse, That includes some pretty smart figures have been on that ship sense team. Forty three, I mean you're you're, telling me that Milton borough kittens more than a vast, add not proud of it.
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