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Injection insider for almost a cleaning president tromp, and he is Ferries good morning and welcome the morning Joe. It is Monday January forth with us. We have with us border for the Associated Press, Jonathan Le Maire, Washington Anchor, BBC World NEWS, America Caddy K, national security experts columnist. USA, today and author of the book, the death of expertise, Tom Nicholls, is thus and making it. Winning Joe Debut conservative lawyer, CO, founder of the Lincoln Project and a contributing com as to the wash it imposed. George Conway, with us this morning and water. Today, to begin with Mr Conway, we begin with An entrance remarkable.

Long phone call with officials in Georgia, where he urged them to find enough votes to overturn the states election results. President tromp can be heard sneaky with Georgia, secretary of State, Brad happens, Berger and the Secretary of State legal counsel, Ryan Germany to alter the vote. Count troublesome makes vague threats to them both if they dont comply. Do you remember that all which took place on Saturday was first reported by the Washington Post, NBC News has obtained a recording of the conversation I want to do. Is this. I use one applied eleven thousand seven hundred and eighty loads. which is one more than we have because we on the same end. Flipping the state is

a great testament to our country people of George you're angry the people that country arriving and his We are always saying that you know that you recalculated, because in two thousand and thirty six audacity. Valets admitted there always that numbers there were, work done by accounting. law firms, agenda You gotta have got him and I haven't got a minute: half again its borders then we need, for. Mr President, to tell us that you have is a data. You have this wall, I wondered selection by hundreds of thousands of us. Nowhere was Georgia, there's no way we won by hundreds of thousands of workers he's going vice small It is when you aunt em up there many times the eleven thousand, but but I want to say hundreds of thousands of us now

it is possible that they shredded ballots in helping cottages what a rumor is that dominion took out regimes that dummy, it is really moving fast. They get rid of their Mahina. Do you know anything about that prevention, illegal, Ryan, Germany, no familiar to them? moved into machinery. Our own can were at one time or another the inner part of the machines and report. Someone other parts now he's you're right, I'm sure. I'm short, Mr President, the ballots occur. and you're gonna find that they are at which is totally illegal, as is its moral, I fear that it is for them good. You know what they did and you not reporting a desert. You know that's a criminal, that's a criminal offence

No, you can't let that happen. That's that's a big risk. The EU and Korea, the eloi that's a big risk, but they are ready ballots, in my opinion, based on I heard removing machinery and they're moving in as fast as I can, both of which a criminal lines and you can't let it happen, and you are letting it happened on your arm in arm if I knew that you let it happen, the guy, the contents of the recording, through ordinary all the way through their arms, to lines that stand out, one where the president tells Us Secretary of State of George defined eleven thousand seven hundred, maybe votes as one more than we need to win and the second is when the president says just tell people that every calculated the votes just tell the people leave recalculated the votes.

It'll be fine. George Conway I'd like to ask you this specific question of whether the present A clause in the United States and also federally, and also in this Georgia, but first I just have to ask you generally: what's your overall impression of this extraordinary audio, recording where every American, if they wish, can listen to the presence of the United States trying to undermine american democracy and overturned and election. It's so shocking, but not surprising I mean real question that pops up here and pops up again again is how delusional is easy, that delusional, or is this nor is it just jasper, and I think it's a little bit of both he is absolutely desperate. avoid reading offers on January. Twenty has any delusional Linda says that he thinks the way to do it.

And the reason why the desperate frankly because something war than having to leave. The grounds of the White House happens on January, twenty Something more important, this is He loses his anyway, you from criminal liability on January, twenty and that is something that its main reported did. He say and talked about that he has talked about to his AIDS, according to reports on the New York Times and other newspapers, and is something that you would call a long ago. He gave a ford. five minutes or so a dress. We covered all the networks, but was called the butler. broadcast on Facebook and one Those who talk about was the fact that there's this investigation in them. DA's office of this violence, that then try again he's obsessed with the fat

He loses his immunity on January, twenty it and TAT one as much as anything else explains its desperation here. it's not just that he can't take was loss of an election which it here but explain, but that is here now, two months to full alone, after the election in November action and he's the percent voted. They ve been certified by the governors. All the results in the states have been certified. The electoral boats are signed, sealed and delivered Edward he still this and not only that he so desperate to avoid the potential for investigation and prosecution. Please skin war. Criminal liability in heart back to the Lawlor investigation. If you just kept his mouth shut, operated with among investigation to some extent and not I do not fear with it

stagnation. That report would have been just the first boy would have been about that, blushing, happy in the contacts between the campaign and unrest and agents, but a really would not have, as it would involve hand that much he made that investigation or size domicile rock and made that investigation about himself by. to interfere with it and now he's ease he's making cities legal situation. Worse is fear a criminal liability and investigation by essentially committed war crimes? And if you will the Georgia statute, it pretty cleared. this is a crime and the old. Defense? He would have also there's a federal statute is a little bit differently wording that also comes into play, but if you only defence, today too too, to criminal prosecution on that score for smoke. All would be that he saw delusion all day actually believes that, if you want.

This election that he believes all day is that he said he's convinced I'm sorry about what you know it's like. If I broke into house- and I cleaned, it was my house and I I was arrested. Be a defensive. I truly truly believed it was my house, but I can't establish that, just by saying, oh, I told fifty people that was my house, and I I mean it deal of it and in Poland in wooden and and and Sydney Power, Rudy Giuliani, told me it was my house not that might work and especially when you basically the world's biggest no liar, which Donald Trump it now the jobs that are made Of course, this wasn't Donald Trump dialing, that secretary of state by himself. This wasn't Donald Trump conducting the car; himself. He of course had his cheek

of staff mark meadows also involved in in well. It sounds like criminal conspiracy. Actually, whether you're looking at that Georgia's statute or whether you looking at the federal statute. Let's It's a lesson. Demark meadows, engaging in this attempt undermine american democracy to participate in a coup tutor to throw out that the results of an american election What I am hopeful for is: is there some way that weaken weakened some kind of an agreement to see you

look at this a little bit more fully ass near the President mentioned Poland County, but in some of these areas, where there seems to be a different set of where the facts seem to lead, and so, Mr Secretary, I was hopeful that the Spirit of cooperation and compromises are there's something that we currently have a discussion to. Look at some of these allegations. To find a path forward. This less litigious will listen to what the president has said. We ve had civil law suits and we ve had responded court to the lawsuits in the contentions. We don't

way that you have won. I guess I, Joe in terms of accountability, is there a difference when it's a president who is committing a state and a federal crime openly and his chief of staff and many are there? any possibilities. These are not state and federal crimes being broken. Will we do? What the lawyers it is thou from art meadows, one nor dark stain on on his public record. Here, he's participating John and when we are after three recounts and the state of Georgia, is participating in an attempt to overturn democratically demo, radically democratic elections trying overturn an election result in the state of Florida sitting there with the present who's asking for eleven thousand.

Seven hundred and eighty votes to be found. The sort of thing that we used to talk about the nineteen sixty election would look back and say well that yet they found dead voters. I found this: they ve done that its exact Why Donald Trump trying to do here and marked meadows dont know if he thinks he's the reasonable man here by saying. Isn't there some middle ground when you're talking about auto coups? What you're talking about overturning democratic elections there is really no third way there. So what's going on in this recording- and what have you learned since it came out Yesterday- will Joe we know now come president for four years that he often late at night in the White House residents will get on the phone. Usually without often without an aid present. I will call you elected shows call allies in float while conspiracy theories. That was not this. This is a call the chief of staff was present? There were lawyers on the call this had say

in the inner circle of the White House, which is indeed shrinking by the day. They President had at the White House his blessing to make this a phone certainly Judah sat meadows who, as you say, often try to present himself as the real. The voice of compromise is needed in this. remember this is a president who has spent entire year railing, making tasteless claims of voter fraud making extraordinary while accusations and conspiracies that the reflection was rigged, that its results couldn't be trusted and they were the legitimate when it does seem like it's in this call and Democrats were quick to pounce on this. Yesterday, Joe that he's the one participating or try to participate in election fraud and only stopped by republican Secretary state of his own party that and that in Georgia. Is an extraordinary undermining of the democratic process. He knew exactly how many votes he needed. He knew what number to ask for, and he was robust but this goes to show that he will not.

He is not accepting the results of this election he's undermine the democratic process. There have been multiple recounts now in the state of Georgia, found zero evidence of any sort of widespread voter fought. That would change the result there in mind you, of course, even if the result of Georgia, what you flip, which again it Walt wouldn't changeover outcome of the election, Donald Trump, what's to lose the electoral College to Joe Biden, but it sets up what we have this week as well. First of all, electoral college votes certification is Wednesday, and we know the number of republican senators have given licence to the bid by those in the house to try to Torrent. This result, the latest effort to undermine democratic norms in Dundee legitimize Joe Biden election. Also, of course tomorrow, is the Georgia run off the two Senate seats there that control the control of that body of Congress. The president is not to go to war.

tonight to rally Republicans to do this bottom relevance. I've talked to the release of this type are petrified. That's what he will say on stage if he will do far more harm than good, as their party tries to cling to power and prevent the Democrats from controlling all three bars again You do here that, as Mr Conway pointed out desperation in his voice, Joe asking again, are you sure, are you sure and sort of veiled threats, but also the Mortality of the stupidity here that he was talking about is that this is a call with the Georgia Secretary of State and an attorney like did, they think did. Did they really think that this was a call? Nobody would hear about as they openly tried to break laws to overturn the election were women. They present and many present in the room, the guy's got political instincts spoke is George Conway, said he's just not smart,

I'm here, he is so many of the things that have caused Donald Trump, his biggest challenges been the liberal media, it hasn't been Democrats, it hasn't at hasn't, been the resistance. It's been Donald Trump committing one self inflicted wound after another shooting himself in the foot politically time and time again and he's dead it again here. Tom nickels and only question is where is or party your former party in my former party. You actually have about a dozen members who are following the president over this and and once again we find ourselves, I I find myself thinking back to. what Jana Goldberg Road in December, I when John said, if I had predicted six months ago, the I'll drop would be doing this after the election. Republicans would accuse me of having trump arrangements and drought, but it's much

Worse than that now same senators- accuse me of having prompt arrangement syndrome six months ago are now. Some of the same senators who are helping the president try to overturn the election results, and here we are, it keeps getting worse. You always expect this to be candid cameras grip where our fight in done Rob walk out from behind the curtain at the end and sake Waywardness joke, and we wanted to see how far you guys would go, and I say I thanked you: shot, This all our or maybe another point for people from this century, but here It is our wages how far these republicans are willing to follow this president, over the cliff, even after this state blogs, great that we're all remembering Alan Fund? But did you know that the problem here is that to the people

They told us that we had trumped arrangement syndrome are only answer should be we weren't pessimistic enough. We knew would be banned. We knew it would be. You know we knew that it would go worse than anybody realised a but to be here in January and have two thirds of the house g o p carcass signing onto this madness. Along with eleven senators, is remarks part of the reason is remarkable, is This is an even something they can spend. You know in the past they say. Well, you know this is just the way he. parks in its and waited new wants to more style. Have him on tape. Sounding the sunset like a low level, mafia goon. This is like

some bad, seeing not a dumb fellows where he says you know we gotta get straightened out. There could be problems you now I d be people mad at you, you're going to have an issue here, be a shame. If something were to happen to your election next week. It in instead of you, no simple distancing themselves from a man who has already lost the election and standing by duty to the constitution, which, in the The working party has just drawn out the window: the constitution. This point isn't even an afterthought? These are people that are actively current sedition and the overthrow of fundamentally elected president. This is this is now some like some Post Soviet Republic, where elections are are a comic opera. Rather then the kind of majesty and gravity that we expect the election of an american president and the Republican Party has

sunk to the moment lower than I think any of us would have expected and that saying something, because our expectations were pretty darn low to begin with, We have mentioned twelve republican senators say they plan joining paid over one hundred public and members of the house in objecting to Sir, fine Joe Biden victory Those senators include Josh, Harlay, TED Crews, RON, Johnson and James Lang. Furred, as well as several who were sworn in Sunday as members of the new Congress. All threatening to object to the certification of trumps law to present a like Joe Biden when a joint session. Congress meets on Wednesday. The senators are demanding a commission to audit the results of the election here is tat. Crews, explaining the decision. We ve seen in the last two months unprecedented allegations of voter fraud and an end has produced a deep, deep distrust.

Of our democratic process across the country. Gwen Congress have an obligation to do something about that. We have an obligation to protect the integrity the democratic system, and I think we have an obligation to voters and we have an obligation to the constitution to ensure that this election was lawful. women there there's. There is some form to this and nothing Damn democratic members of Congress have done this before in the past, but Caddy K in light of that, if that were released by the Washington Post, I wonder I wonder if potentially have we had bought him yet and will Republicans ten you with this when their walking in the footsteps of a man and whose committing state and federal Kyar crimes and in an open meetings we have. I mean you, VE, had a few Republicans

out in a bipartisan way saying the election is being lost. Biden can be the president. We have to move on now, but will those twelve republic who have signed on to support the house lawsuit now decide. Well because the tape. We're going to reverse course know. That seems highly unlikely. Somebody like Joshua Early- this is his one shoddy thinks- are having some kind of a president bed and so he's gonna go full on tromp. In order to get there, that's the he's only possible route to winning. He thinks the nomination of the Republican that is the next time around- is to be the next trump. So he's not going to abandon the President TED Bruce, isn't going to abandon the president. This point he thinks that his political ambitions, clearly best served by being as close to tromp was possible. The problem is the more people come out like take cruising Josh wholly and speak publicly in support of what President Trump is doing. The more the president feels this is. What happened I mean I. I spoke somebody who speaks very frequently to the president last night.

Said to me in the beginning of the election. His understanding was the president had realized. He had lost that he didn't have the votes, but it's interesting that over the last few weeks he seems to have changed his tune, and part of that is he's only speaking to people who tell him He won the election was stolen. Anyone around him who believes the election wasn't stolen, won't raise it with him any more because they don't want to incur his iron. That means that you just have a conversation about how the election was stolen. They won't get other things done with him, so he got himself into position the present, where he really does believe that Georgia was stolen. You can hear it in that tape. Listening that our long tape last night, you keep saying well, we must have one, because we had the big crowds? We must have one because our supporters are angry and you hear that intact crews to well. We must be right because people are disappointed, there's no evidence there, but they're all

talking themselves more more into a position where they actually believe the election was stolen, which is why you get conversations like that that you have between the president and reference burgle absent on site I don't see any sign that those twelve going to walk away from that position because they feel it's the only position they can hold and they didn't have anything to lose by sticking close to trumpet possible what whistling due to crews that cloak wages played. I I mean you know George Conway but a dumb country lie awake, but I see these Harvard boys in these yell boys coming out. and end saying some of this stuff but this damn things. I've ever heard my life TED crews, who talk about circular logic they already they kicked me out, my car law, one class it in southern state school. If I use the type of stupid circular logic that TED crews actually was not ashamed to say on national television, which was we must

to do this, because there has been an unprecedented claims of corruption and and widespread voter fraud, the likes of which we ve never seen before in american history. Of course, it is the head crews and judge Holly who are continuing to allow that perpetual spirits see machine to keep moving at a distance. Donald Trump, that's fanning flames of the conspiracy? So, of course it is a self fulfilling prophecy. Yes, there is unpressed there and presently claims of election fraud in there all coming from a president. sounding more deranged by the day, absolutely right and anything about crews and Holly. Is there now deranged like the president and they're? Not John was a rock like my trunk somebody told what some Republican told living not see the other day, apparently that dumb, the

the reason why a lot of people in the Republicans impoverishment envy Polly was because he's not a moron like Louie Coloured, and that's it absolutely right, and so the same is true. They know that ok, they both clerk but Holly Clerk for teachers. This Roberts crews also clerk. He could for teaching justice ranks these guys, who were at the top of the class, are already in the case of crews, again, in the case of Holly LAW schools. They know to read a statute such as three title. Three were c section: fifteen, which says how the votes are counted and what you do is when when the state, when the governors of the states of certified the idea the electors and you have valid electoral certificates from those certified electors. That's it there's no basis, an objection, even if no basis to even send me, do you

matter to both houses, but Congress developed there not allowed, say the objection under the Thai under title title, three section: fifteen I am so this is all just a ruse, apart from the fact that they don't have the boat in either House of Congress, it's all about, as as carrying said it's all about you trying to control. The trunk led to the GNP nomination in twenty twenty four. It's all about ruthless ambition. one guy like crews, who, in larger to worry I guess maybe twenty sixty recognized and said publicly that Donald Trump was the most narcissistic person we ve ever seen an american politics. It was a pathological, lighter and completely nail who Donald Trump was at that point in time for someone like him who, whose opens, Now it was trash by Donald Trump now out now and participate

The facilitation of these lies the trunk as now sent into the chamber of the conservative world, is appalling and that's what's going on now is like ok, tramp tramp tramp take some line and he reads on dealing with the usual. Your group comes out of the euro, The issue for Chan, Eco ecosystem of wise repeat said: other people repeat what he say in all the american people are concerned about about about an election. people. Georgia are angry. I mean This is insane. This is just. This is just absolutely nuclear would have cynical of peoples by my guys like home, crews at day, no better. They just don't care not deter the garden we they had a light: a candle, I'm truck Rosenberg on my Ipod cast the earth. I talk with people who served with integrity and

men and women who, like the way this week, warm in New Zealand police? Commissioner, like Bush, particularly with first time offenders? You want to go a chance you dont want to automatically put them on that justice cycle with I end up in jail. If you can intervene with a young person, they something different and send them on a different path. That's why you come to join me for season for the EU and Us Nbc Pod cast search for the earth where every year listening right now subscribe you ever, everyone's to charge, you send it see texting control of the Senate on malign. If Republicans, when one of those or both of those they stand charge in the USA, Rachel, Mantled, Ryan Williams and Steve Cornet aid will break down the results county by counting. The challenge for democratic is to try to get a bite in levels of turned out in support,

with analysis from joy, red and a cold lobbies, Georgia run offs fight for the Senate tomorrow, which sat upon MSNBC. yeah. I notably centred on cotton, is not joining the ranks of holly and crews. With this we want to bring in that important context. We were talking about the last three times a Republican has been elected president demo It's in the house have broad objections to the electoral votes in state republican nominee, one in two thousand and five. Senator Barbara boxer of California lent Senate support to the moon. when she objected to George W Bush is electoral votes in Ohio, citing voting irregularities in the state. The move was praised. The time include by Senator Dick Durban, who said in part. Some may criticise our colleague from California for bringing us here for this brief debate. I thank her We're doing that because it gives members and opportunity once again on a bipartisan.

says to look at a challenge that we face now in the last election in ones but in many states compare that two Durban tweet last week, stay on the Republicans efforts, the political equivalent of barking at the moon. This won't be it can seriously. Nor should it be the american people. May decision on November third and that decision, must and will be honoured and protected by the EU. Where Senate and House of Representatives in two thousand and five then was not alone. When Senator Chris Van Hollan of Maryland than a house member issued this Release on boxers efforts. It reason part. I believe, that Senator Barbara Box, and representative. Seventy Tabs Jones have performed a fairy viable public service. In bringing this debate before the Congress as Americans, we should all be troubled by road. Of boning problems in many parts of the country, but then last week,

day, HOLLAND, tweeted, Senator Holly's actions are grossly irresponsible, he's attempting to undermine our democratic process fuel. lies about voter fraud and delay the modification of binds win in the end, this reckless stunt will fail and Joe Biden will become press and on January, twenty twenty twenty one fifteen years, ago, Senator Admiral here: Massachusetts than a member of the house also praised boxers. Two thousand for effort and ordered or challenge saying in part. I thank Representative Tub Jones and centre a boxer and Representative John COM As for forest, this institution and thus our nation to debate the quality of our democratic voting process. to consider whether it meets the expectations of its people come air that to what he told the Washington Post this past weekend, there's April,

medical invasion of the body snatchers, which is taking place. Donald Trump and his supporters are now actually able to create a secure mission, this coming Wednesday, where people who are senators and house members are going to vote for thing. That is absolutely in totally untrue. So the point is this Democrats should probably hold their criticism on this. One leave Criticism to the true conservatives, though, it's noting that in two thousand for and here's the big difference John Kerry, Conceited quickly, after losing a close, election later saying he believes he was right to make a timely. session, for the greater good of the country, unlike Tromp Harry, did not Porsche unfounded. Can heresies for months on end and ever suggested the election stolen or quote ray You know we happen were fortunate. We happen to have a few can

Evidence where this is more through conservative zoos bodies, when snatch tomorrow, the words of more during the age of droplets, let's put up George Conway and Tom and Tom start with you. It was stupid for democrats do that in two thousand five, it's stupid for Republicans, due in two thousand what he it was undermining of the democratic process in two thousand five. Just because demo That's were angry that George W Bush one eye, while the same it's true and twenty twenty. Obviously the big differences, the scale it's it's, it's much larger, and also you have the press, the United States actively working

three days a loser working every day to overturn the election result, something that John Kerry did not too did not participate. When I was a republic, I used to tell my democratic friends: don't do stuff like this because down the line, someone else's gonna, do it to you and you're not going to like it establish these kinds of precedents with that said, and you know is one of those mornings where I'm in the uncomfortable position, where I'm going to defend something the Democrats did fifteen years ago, I either never known or forgotten, that that even happened because That was a symbolic challenge that was meant to in some press about voters. Depression issues that were important to member The democratic carcass way what's happening here is the president the United States is eating an entire political party in trying to

return, a democratic election to the point where there could be violence and that, I think Is that it's not just a matter of scale. I think you're right Joe. The scale is much larger when you think about the number republicans that are involved in this? But there is also the intensity involved, where the president is to convince and has convinced Millions of people this election was rigged, that it was riddled with fraud that it was Julie controlled by foreign. Adversaries he has really creating an alternate reality around this bottle. The bar boxer or Representative Tom Jones thought for one minute that anybody was gonna. Take seriously the idea that the electorate, I wasn't gonna certified and when, as you pointed out John carry it already conceded that doesn't anger, I made a grandstanding, but this is something qualitatively different. This is- and this is actively

dozens of legislators and there, neighbor letters and hangers on in the media and the the Pandit under talk receipt engaging in sedition, aging and the active attempt to overthrow constitutional processes of the United States that that's that's a world of difference from what we saw fifteen years ago. While there is a world of difference, but George Conway, the common denominator in two thousand and five and two thousand twenty one. Is this they're all play for gipsies, I don't care what any of these people think tat. Crews knows the electoral lists, sorry, it's gonna be overturned. Holly nosey election results are not going to be overturned, they all know the election results are not going to be overturned and just like boxer and just at Durban, As you may met this, this was cheap way to play to grandstand, played and people in the cheap seats. And yes, it's fun

more dangerous and twenty twenty one, but at the same time there they knew they. They know this is going to fail in twenty twenty one. Just cite boxer in Durban and add Marcie. Everyone else knew it was going to fail in two thousand five Twenty four was clownish. Publicity stunt going to raise its rays legitimate issues about how elections are conducted about voter suppression, he believed there was motor suppression or how you should handle absentee were mailing ballot, its legitimate to raise those issues not lying about them. Two thousand for It is not legitimate to hijack the electoral process to do that and to go to the violence point that Tom really well may is tromp is out there now tweeting, so

like it's gonna, be wild on January set, is inviting and retreating tweets about people. coming to Washington. To do Lord knows you know when you know it's gonna, be groups like like, proud boys who got kicked out hotel and she went on and then all the crazies he's encouraging them to come to Washington and Outline January Sex and Allah message boards. Apparently, there is basically threats of violence that people are gonna going in and go up. Hill and Lord knows what and this is a scary thing. Missus not you can't come what's happening here with the present in the United States, centrally trying to conduct a bloodless coup. To fail as it may be. encouraging millions The Americans, who don't know

We need better, I guess, to two to leave here any properly, that these senators or say all many people are concerned. Many people are concerned a totally different situation in that respect from two thousand, for, although the Democrats really did not cover themselves with glory wisdom, once you are objecting, did not cover themselves were glaring two thousand boring and kudos due to John Kerry, for not mine, and that's the reason. Why is Tom pointed out any I'd forgotten about this? I really think I know I remember that that happened in two thousand and one it was just that it was just a blip. They got me out to our dear dear dear less does Brett delusional and varied dress, George Conway and Tom Nicholls. Thank you both for being on this morning.

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well. I was certainly the voice of desperation most certainly that, and it was all born days old abuse of power by the President of the United States, That was a vice president, elect calmly Harris on the campaign trail yesterday in Georgia to get used to it warns I know I'm cars, I know it's really son I have to be done, you gotta do it. I understand you gotta do and we are going to be covering the effects of the corona virus, which are opposing governess, editing, point actually getting worse, but yeah it is. It is that's why I remove really care for the project. Whom any lessons from the two thousand twenty campaign under what happens in twenty two or what happens in twenty four, because you, you add one political party,

campaigning in a way that was more effective, politically, but also more dangerous. My health, wise, more deadly sites, but you are right. Mega covered is exploding I like never before, and it's my god. The death toll is, is Skype. getting right now now President Trump is heading down to Georgia today and he will hold a rally in the conservative stronghold of dull to the states northwest more than three million Georgians have already voted in the run off. That is nearly thirty nine percent of all registered Joe the voters and shatters the previous total turn out in a door to run off said in two thousand eight, when two point one million people participated joining us. Our political report for the Atlantic Journal Constitution Gregg boosting Gregg. What does that law? What does that very, very high number of

voting indicate if anything. First of all, the Georgians understand that the stakes in this election to the five hundred million dollars pleasant, he adds hasn't kaunda gonna waste, but Also is very unusual Democrats, because that number shows that look a little deeper shows that we're gonna strongholds of measurement, Lana Predominant african American counties rule Georgia of extremely high turnout when compared to the November General Action Enders disproportionately large numbers of african American and younger voters who are voting which, in general in Georgia, upstate my run off elections generally the younger and and and more First motors attended. These ones out sounds very good news for Democrats who feel like they built an early advantage going into Tuesday. So great I was as one suburbs of Atlanta, which is really it's the heart of the visit of the battleground for Georgia, but I spent

early summers up and taught in Georgia my grandma splice and that is most definitely not battleground territory and the fact that down trouble campaigning there. It seems like I haven't, spent a lot of time and battleground territory because Dalton we're just a lot like Pensacola Florida, the area that I represent, and I mean it is deep, dark Red republic, it is, does this- give us any incite on on on what report I think they need the one. This race the Amazon, our election, and so just like his last visit was devolved last another red area. This is too one of them. Conservative areas in Georgia area where is lagging behind in early voting turn out. It is one of the lowest performing parts of the state exactly right, he's not trying to go on, you can convince unpersuaded voters, undecided voters he's going.

the heart of the republican territory in Georgia, one of the most conservative report russian districts in the nation is represented by margin, Taylor, telegram just wondering what an open sea my a lying herself to Donald Trump, every corner. Very very conservative and very troubling participation numbers for republican joy now Greg Jonathan, a mere with AP, is with us and has a question for you at first Jonathan. I want to ask you what you are hearing about the present stripped adult in Georgia today What you are saying that we heard last night, there is at least some informal chatter as to whether the present would go through with this trip to Georgia. Today, now we now it's hot, Oh. How serious that talk is he floats things out from time to time AIDS and certainly on his schedule. Today. He is expected to go over. There is at least some consideration that he may not because of how angry he was about this.

Khan Saturday and the resulting covered yesterday. How angry he is at the republican officials in that state, which, of course, is those two centre candidates there who are unable to campaign republican governor of Georgia for fear of dry, the president's wrath and Gregg tonight, of course, will be what we expect. President final rally in office, but he's not the only major political in the state today, President Joe Biden I'm going to be in Atlanta, Well, Hocker's, through a little bit about that, or tat the earth we sought. We know that the president is heading two: can deep red district to try DR turn out, but what a demo at seeing in terms of early turnout in places like the city that land in the suburbs of Atlanta, which were so. He too binds victory in no Van Ripper what're they seeing now is that, while the President Elect is heading there today yeah you're very enthusiastic about what we are seeing: a metric Lana, two german. She used to be a special them dilemma. Some refused to give Republic

the margins that they needed to win this day analysis Let me now, it's measure Atlanta is become the biggest democratic bastion. Its areas in the northern mark suburbs, spanning from Cobb County, which was these springboard renewed Gingrich and Johnny Isaacson to Republican Office is now one of the bigger democratic struggles Grenette county he's, looking just drive up that Metro Atlantic turn out his visiting on our part of South EAST Atlantic is predominantly african American and try to get the parties. The corners of the Democratic Party here, continue to come out, though, drivers there is. Actually numbers, because Democrats feel like they built a cushion. We don't know how big the cushion isn't it could be. thousand votes choose your early voting, we're going to look into a race that Margin Democrat scan can hold our own on election day and night. Flip these two seats. Greg, talk to talk about the calculation and also what you gonna be looking for.

early to Morrow Night, because just Fred Verve people they weren't sitting or watching during the election we talked about. Georgia. How how down town, lad always went democratic, but while I was growing up, we report Kids could always count on the suburbs. Like you said evening, things out in this case downtown Atlanta breaking strongly for the Democrats, you ve got the suburbs breaking for the Democrats, The question is now in Georgia or their enough rural voters to make up the difference in your tail we at least in the Dalton area right now, there supported, and that turn out. Is that What you are saying across a state of Georgia, What are you going to be looking at? Specifically early to Morrow night to try to figure out which way this raises breaking.

Magic numbers for democratic politicians in Georgia been thirty thirty. They want to get to thirty percent. American overall turnout gonna get a thirty percent white. out sorry wide support for democratic candidates. They feel like they can Those two numbers like day they hovered around those two numbers in the in the general did they feel like taking when that's why so important for fruit for democratic to get? There is grounding back, I'm going on Republicans it is that rural white conservative turn out. That's why, at both Any candidates book and David produce now self isolating because he was exposed someone other carnivores but cynically level. out in the egg germs. of Measurement Lantern she's been west. Georgia she's been rule parts of Georgia at those, your deep, deep, deep red. conservative bastions. Where Early voting turnout is not we're. Republicans want them to be Gregg bursting. Thank Very. Very much

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