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and then you really want you idiot. I'm sorry back my office watching get you out of the army is reckless gang within the lines inside the capital and unstable people. Knowing about it wasn't tell I really started video in the trial but you ve really saw what was happening in and how offers that got the injured to call them armed insurrection knew it was the most pitiful are insurrection. Anybody could ever passed we imagine we do the one guy in the Saint James, they're, here plastic risk ties. It was, he said, literally go up to my pants and end. the russian citizens are absurd. That was, for Logan Senator RON Johnson of Wisconsin questioning whether an armed insurrection, even happened.

On January six, just to remind people, police, covered, a dozen guns and thousands of of ammunition from seven people who were arrested for their involvement in the riot out the capital that left at least five p. Dad centred Johnson should read his own states paper, the Milwaukee journalists that no, which reports that fourteen people I too, the January sixth attack or facing federal charges related to bringing or using dress weapons inside the building and two are facing firearms related charges. According to the, U S attorney's office for the District of Columbia, Joe, he was calling pitiful armed insurrection and questioning whether with an insurrection at all and wondering what people we're gonna do with a plastic ties that holding is this is at the game plan I mean are. We really is that why to play incredibly stupid? Is that

is that where they end up after this is all over pretending this did not happen and we have the video we have the digital watch of police officers being beaten. Some within inches of their lives beaten with an american flag. We have the stories of the law. enforcement officers lying on the ground, while tromp terrorists were beating them and them thinking to themselves that they had for children. And wondering if they would ever see their children again, we heard the chance we He saw the news. Is We heard the veil, the terror risk scream. Hang my pants Harlem destroying my pants, we them destroying the capital

the facing it in every way we ve seen the three cops the three law enforcement officers the faces of those who died. following the tax to so Roma ties that american terrorists. Storm that capital debate Their own lives with this is this is a mob that just may have killed. Johnson are. Any member of the House or the Senate that they saw that in so. So I just Just wonder as there are republicans feverish really trying to frame the political party Mika, I'm just I'm just wondering if Mitch Mcconnell version of the report can party moving forward is RON Johnson Station of the Republican Party. We ve Could you can use.

which Mcconnell Zone words against on jobs and improve that RON. Johnson is lying to the people of was and RON Johnson is lying to the people of Amerika RON Johnson is not worthy to be a United States senator with US have Washington Anchor for BBC World NEWS. America caddy k with Us President the council on Foreign relations, Richard Hoss and former trade, ray official in mourning Joe Economic Endless, Steve Ratner, joins us as well. How speaker nanny mercy as heating calls for the creation of a September. even the style Commission to investigate last month steadily riot at the: U S, capital in a light. To house democratic yesterday, Pelosi said Congress will establish an dependent commission to investigate and report on the attack. Well as in air appearance in election proceedings,

policy also said the house will appropriate additional funds to boost security at the capitol. Multiple congressional committees are already in the process of scheduling hearings to investigate the riot. The Washington Post points out Supporters of the commission say such an initiative will have broader authority than those committees, pursue testimony from those in trumps orbit voices we're not part of the impeachment inquiry that the commission will not. Under the same time, constraints of those committee invest nations, as it produces its findings, so they'll take their time to really lay out the case of what happened Joe using the voices of the very people who might have been involved. inciting the deadly Riah. Well, It has to be done for a variety of reasons. First of all, we need to make sure that,

the Centre of american democracy. It is never never As compromise says, it was on January the six I know, they're idiots, another cable news channels that will will say well mom and pop store, vandalized during the summer riots and that's just as bad as the United States, capital being vandal. Now, no actually know no jackass. It's not. The capital, the United States of America, is the center of american democracy While I am a fierce believer in people's right to defend their private property, I'm not going. the confused taco stand. with the United States Capital, I'm not going confuse the selling of tacos with action.

moving through a constitutional process that is laid out, the United States constitution from members of that the house in the Senate to actually to perform their kind additional duties. Now now now now properly damage does not equal insurrection. Somebody you have. We really stupid, and I've heard a lot of really stupid people over the past month. Try to make that argument it doesn't cut it. I will say there are a few Republicans even report. can serve acted shamefully over the past month, who are also calling for a nine eleven Style Commission Richard eyes you actually from the very start. You said you weren't, so sure that impeachment was a proper way to go, because you see predicted how, going to end. You predict how would lead to even more frustration new predicted that Donald Trump would be able to take a break, Ray lap and say he was acquitted

again in his allies, real essays acquitted. Yet again, you said nine love and eleven style Commission made a lot more sense. Then I suspect you still believe it's proper thing to do in a lot of Republicans. Agree with you as well, as I think just about every Democrat. Why is this nine hundred and eleven style commission so important? what's so important in part because of the limits to what we just experience with impeachment, you didn't have witnesses, it was rushed. it was wildly politicize still in the heat of the moment, and I in eleven like mission, will probably take something of a year. Could subpoena all. Portugal, witnesses dig into all sorts of things can take a very large purview. You can look at the facts, drop politically look at law in force men and intelligence issues. beyond the immediacy of January search. So that's plenty important and look at the domestic terrorism, read the White nationalist threat. We can look at all

should have norms in american politics, and so I want it couldn't cover a whole lot to Joe what might be as important as Eddie it can be an extraordinary teaching moment. Countries need history we need now is we need stories? This is now, I am sad to say, are really important part of the american narrative. We if we can't afford to lose today, such as the teaching moment, and then lastly, I can make us the recommendations like the nine eleven, the commission did not actually think this extraordinarily important. Daddy K Richard brought up not just nationalism, but also more generally domestic terrorists, that was not going to be investigated at great length, stirring and impeachment trial, but something that the course of the next year, this nine eleven style Commission, can really dig into because Firstly, the threat is out there. It grew

exponentially during the five years- and it is still with us on this- what the FBI has been warning about repeatedly that actually, the biggest threat to the United States faces at the moment is not from outside terror groups: rough from domestic white supremacist, terror groups and is something that many Republicans on capital. Hill of Frank you wanted to ignore is a threat to the country and if you have some kind of commission- and ideally you have some kind of bi partisanship associated with that- can and, as you did with the nine Eleven commission, then this report can have some gravitas and to get, but what you said Dorothy one, the most important parts of this report will be. The idea that this must never happen again, and that is not just holding those people who attacked on the sixth accountable, but looking at the security lings around the protection of the capital as well RON Johnson Amene by your definition. Ron Johnson is one of those people who, rather

droopingly is making the comparison between what happened. Some are in some of the looting and some of associated with some of those protests last summer. With what happened? genuine sick. I think, if you have, the gravity of a nine eleven stall commission that has some bi partisanship too. We all remember where we were in that came out. It became blockbuster summer reading it over the summer. People were gripped by that report. This could have the same impact, I think is that of taking some of the sting of Trump peons style partisanship out of this the facts about what happened. What happened on the day and how do we prevent happening again and the ban, Flash from state republican parties continue against the republican devoted to convict the former president, the North Carolina Republic. party voted unanimously yesterday to censure Centre Richard Bur saying it believes that the impeachment of afore our president lies outside the: U S: Constitution Borough responded with

amen quote. It is truly a sad day for North Carolina Republicans. My party's leadership has chosen loyalty one man over the core principles of the Republican Party. founders of our great nation, the Pennsylvania working party is now planning to meet, to discuss possible censure for senator to me he is I ve been censured by several many parties and his state here is the chair, Pennsylvania's Washington, County Republican Party on why to me should be censured. We did not shirk their voters Should we not certainty in there to the right or whatever. So we did send him to Washington Dc C devote his conscience. We did not send him to Washington DC to do the right thing

there you have somebody sounding more or less a soviet style apparatchik american citizen try to do the right thing. You must support the port and you must support fearlessly. Are you must support Joseph Stalin? You must support Fidel Castro. You I support Noriega, you must support fill in the blanks. That's that's the state of play and republican parties, Ross America and yes, independent voters swing? Outsiders and Pennsylvania. Look look look at that here that again- because I just want you to know this- is the moral grounding of the Republican would he not just in Pennsylvania. This is the moral grounding of the Republican Party all across Amerika. Now a republican party that that actually has devolved into a person it is called in

of an institution that actually began to free the slaves, but let's see where the Party of Abraham Lincoln his devolve. In this time,. Did not set him there about its conscience. We did not There too rights barrier wherever and Rick Thus, we are hearing this all over America from republican apparatchiks soviet style apparatchiks, and I'm not overstating that. This is what you hear from an east german party member. You're. Not to do the right thing you're to follow the party a year, you're not too, your conscience year on year to follow what the Soviet Politburo tell should follow. That's what's happening here, except it's way, the person of failed reality tv housed in the loser of a presidential candidate who who

destroy did the Republican Party in Russia, that's what it I'll get this guy destroyed the Republic parties majority in the house in two thousand eighteen, destroy the republican parties majority in the Senate to thousands when he and destroy the republic. parties control over the executive branch at the same time, and yet there saying don't vote your conscience. Don't do the right thing: we're not sending you up there to do that. We are sending you up there to be built kindly loyal to fearless later you're, not listening to him, not a lot. Surprises me anymore. When I hear something like that are really does surprised, me is the connection between the two things we ve talked about this morning. What, been on January January six than that and you and I Then talk about budget deficits, we ve got a civic deficit in this country. That people would take me there's into their own hands, to use violence to pursue their political agenda, to stop the counting of electoral votes. Now this guy talking without them

slimmest understanding whatsoever that we have a representative democracy What we do is precisely we send people to Washington to do what they think is right. We don't ask them constantly to pool their their constituents. We ask them to use their judgment and the fact that there could be these examples. That people so dont understand the dna of their own political system. It's a real warning to us that the essence of american democracy is being lost and it's gotta be common national pride priority in this country to resurrect it otherwise and your research. What this tired you just said these will not be exceptions, add you're right. We do do have a massive budget deficit that you and I have been talking about for a very long time, but all When talking about the civics deficit, a marrow It's not understanding what unconcerned about actually is is for

younger americans younger people who identify themselves as conservatives having apps. Thirdly, no idea over the past four five six years, what conservatism really is what it's supposed to be. Who had been bark is who Russell Carcass wait? Wait, wait, wait conservatism is about than they dont understand that instead began its personnel. Called in it has much more to do with again viet style politics, where you just your blindly loyal to one man and what one man says becomes your reality, and- and that's That'S- what's happened here again. I repeat that quote, which again your hearing across Amerika, which is, they're not sending Publicans, to Washington Dc. To do the right thing. They're, not sending Republicans

I shouldn T say: devote their conscience they're, sending Republicans watching Washington DC to be so we'd styled apparatchiks and when you have far too many Republicans well over a hundred Republicans, voting to throw out votes from two thousand twenty election we have Johnson Club we play to the top of the show lying through his teeth about There wasn't an insurrection and there was nothing to be worried about, when he's in the videos of cops, getting beaten by american flags and when you hear party members, whether in North Carolina, Withers and Pennsylvania, we're it is all moving to attack people foreboding. There agents and then saying we don't want them, devote their conscience. We don't want them to do what is right well that

you everything you need to know about where the working Party- is in twenty twenty, whereas one potential bright spot bother, come on official calls among Republicans in Utah to condemn. Mitt Romney, the Utah Republican Party released statement of support, saying in part the differences our own Utah, Republicans showcase a diversity of thought, in contrast to the danger of a party fixated on unanimity of thought. There is power in our differences as a political party, and we forward to each senator, explaining their votes to the people of Utah. Well, so a little bit of difference there and somewhat hope, the way you would think actually the way. American politics he said we are least how parties used to set themselves up, so people would think there were that way that actually they allowed difference of opinion, especially on something

there s an insurrection. You would actually think the person supporting the info action. This would be the one catching the hate, but again not in this republican point, Ratner Richard Us- and I am talking about debts we ve been concerned, for time with what we are hearing coming out of Washington D C on this covered, leave bill almost two trillion dollars, despite the fact Scipio says, economy, gonna grow. What a three point: seven five click this year, despite the fact that you even look in financial times this morning and you say that this the two trillion dollars and the economy after the relief bills of last year would actually move us above what the true. Lines, were free covert for this economy and your hearing, a lot of people in Washington,

I too few economists suggest, or that wages wrap the worry about inflation. Again, we never have to worry about deficits again. We never have to worry about the dead. Again. I know Republicans don't give a damn about deficits that unless there is a Democrat, the White House, but it's single here. Almost all of these Optimist suggests that, for some reason that inflation is a relic from a different age, so that we need never worry about again. I'm curious, which our thoughts are. What an inflation I think there are some beginning. some concerns about inflation, it's not you evident in the monthly numbers that we see. But when you look at the kinds of things that economists look into like inflationary expectations surveys like Treasury rates are beginning to move to things like that. You can't commodity price.

Does have gone up for many many commodities. That's often a signal of inflation. Look I'm not here to ring the bell and say we're about to have massive inflation, but I think I think You are starting to see the beginnings of that, but most important, As you said Joe, the package is huge and just to put it into some kind of contacts into two thousand nine. We put about to try in dollars into the economy, to rescue ourselves from the great financial crisis I've already authorized four trillion dollars for the same, the same type of rescue and this bill. What at roughly? As you say, one point nine or two trillion dollars on top of that, so a package that roughly three times the size of what we did during the great financial crisis. We also, by the way, still have about a billion dollars from the four trillion. That's already been authorized that hasn't been spent yet and so it is a huge amount of money and it doesn't run the risk of putting more

into the economy than it means at the moment, people have not been spending is much because of the lockdown here's another fun fact for you in a sense personal income last year actually went up five percent, and that is because obviously a lot of people out of work, but it's because of so much in government transfers from the stimulus that we Verde pass. Meanwhile, people were unable to spend, and so, therefore you have about one six trillion dollars and people's bank accounts of things that they have not been. You have been able to speak and then there are some specific issues with the package itself which I'm happy to get into, but all in all, I think the more you look at this, the bigger and a little bit scarier. It starts to get an ritual I got. This is well there's almost unanimity among Democrats among economist among newspaper editors, almost a fear, to speak out Ok, wait a second we're going to sign this check in gonna move this again,

open relief fell out is Six trillion dollars and if you ass, even ask any questions about it about where its excessive about whether it may cause even more pain and suffering. In the long run year it is dismissed as a cold. Hearted shrew by their or land people Democrats going to vote for this in its gonna go through, but ITALY and in saner times there actually would be more of a debate with their not over over whether this is excessive will of course, Joe average We have this conversation, we ve had it several times now you and I, then it both gets which donor and social media, it will not happen again today, a sure as sure as backward, because it so

this signal so much about, and you and I, by having this conversation steep, had a lot of your powerful arguments on it. It's been taken that we don't care. And the answer. No one cares obviously no wonder and wheat the country does need targeted help. So, let's take that issue at the table. Of course, that we need targeted the problem is that a lot of this aid package allotted to relieve package is not sufficiently targeted, its enormous it's another. Ten percent of the american economy too but with the previous six trillion dollars, you get altogether out of a twenty two, dollar economy, There is an argument for keeping some of your powder dry for seeing how we get out of this recession and then again, there's probably gonna be an argument for certain target. It moves, but this is essentially on targeted, and I think we'll come back in some ways to regret at least elements of it is and targeted. If you say anything, asking

any questions about how you make the bill smarter. If you make the bill more targeted, then obviously new get attacked by partisans just like the Trump tax, gods were massive, ridiculously I get it to the wealthiest Americans and and all the warnings that that gave on their show and got attacked from conservatives saying that there were going to be massive stock buyback, said people weren't going to use those tax cuts and that tax relief to grow their business came true, and then you had politicians coming out afterwards, complaining rather republican politicians. It is and caddy though I I read the financial times this morning, also that there are, european leaders who are acts envious of the United States taking such a egg swaying at the play. If we can use an american baseball analogy there, fearful that the EU

may not move dramatically enough to get out of this economic crisis was just thinking that, when you are talking about a joke because we're hearing the same message from european leaders, not even from the International Monetary Fund base, in Washington that this is the time for governments to be spent big to tackle the pan. Make, and the argument is twofold: one that we have an absolute crisis and that we have to get the pandemic under control and that reduce the pandemic under their control than you know they get economies rebounding anyway, and also that interest rates oh and so that this is a good time to be borrowing, but at the same time you're having those european leaders say, we agree with the American I reproach, and we wish we could do hu as much as the Bite administration is hoping to do. Your also stop to get stories in the UK for you all about how some of the spending in previous package's has actually gone to work Eastern hasn't been targeted. Outsiders, Steve that the argument is gonna.

How do you construct a package that does the right things satisfies the Biden, administrations, political action was to be seen to be doing something, big and bold, which clearly wants to be but doesn't come by divide us in six months time or years time with people, as was done in the EU now of stories of negligence that came and waste that were built into the programme is. Is it possible to do something like that in this context, from without trying to act very fast. No, I don't they realistically is possible to do it and it certainly possible to do which is not possible to do in this timeframe. Unemployment benefits star, expire March Fourteenth, and that is put a clock against this process and so both the House and the Senate are moving very quickly. They ve both past budget resolutions, the house's likely to pass it's the four, spending bill sometime in the next week or so, and so this

they train. This is a train that is leaving station very fast and its burn, various wash, because there was a point in time. We thought well, maybe some sensible people, get involved and they would cut cut the price down a bit, they make it more targeted, but but now the political impetus, the political pressure seems to be in one direction. There's a lot you can do theirs, thing really in this bill to fix that mental issues of the american economy. There's nothing in here for infrastructure, there's nothing here! From for climate and Fourth, it is really simply pouring money at the problem, and only one percent of this entire one point, nine trillion dollar bill is actually going for vaccines. The rest is going for things like check, individual Americans and even under the revised this house proposal something like eighty five. I've or eighty eight percent of Americans we'll get some coffee. A stimulus check, not only. the full amount but a significant stimulus check for no particular purpose. When most Americans

actually during pretty well, it's really the ones have lost their jobs and suffered from this are the ones we should be focusing on seed Radner. Thank you very much for being on this morning, and still I had on morning Joe some new pole numbers from political president approval. Writing is sitting north of sixty percent and more What republican voters are saying about whether they want former president trunk to play a prominent role in the Republican Party, plus the house. Impeachment managers for troms second trial, congresswoman, Stacy plastic. It will be our gas this morning. You're watching morning, jail we'll be right back After a year of heartbreak and hardships cove at night,

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said it is forming a committee with the Kurdistan regional government to investigate the attack because it believes the Rockets were lost from an area that is not under the control of the Kurds. Now the situation in Afghanistan. For months, the Taliban has been encroaching on key cities pushing back trade to its breaking point. The brazen offensive puts the Biden administration, in a dangerous bind political bind as the White House ways whether to withdraw or to stay the test. Ben is urging President Biden to honour a year agreement to withdraw all american forces from Afghanistan. Five may, which would end the two decades long war, according to the your times. If the Biden Administration honours the withdrawal date, officials and analyse fear the Taliban could overwhelm what's left of the afghan security forces and take control

major cities or abroad, surrender by the afghan government. The times also notes that, if the U S delays its withdrawal deadline, the Taliban would most likely since they deal with the United States Void, which would led to renewed attacks on American. A NATO troops potentially draw the United States deeper into the war to defend Afghan we're says it was a rush to deal in the first place from the Trump Administration and Richard I'm just curious weather by the administration who a buyer who was there in two thousand and eleven when America withdrew from Iraq and he was there when he saw the rise of ISIS in that void and obviously by administration, understands that the Taliban there info, continues to grow. There. Isis elements of ices throughout that country. If we abandoned

Afghanistan, it will actually go from the worse the curious. What your opinion on Afghanistan I stated mine, and what do you think that I did ministration will ultimately do like the choices are bad at this point, but what, let's sledges, put one fact on the table a year the United States and the Taliban signed a bilateral agreement. It is described as a peace agreement, It is not. It is simply a were for: U S military withdrawal. We subsequently To seek our presence there, as we are seeing the part. The Taliban have no interest in peace or not down their arms they're, not gonna, get ready! while the terrorists and their countries so weak. If we honour the agreement and pull out the rest of our troops, it is likely that government will collapse Java stand would again like we become a major venue for international terrorism. The human rights consequences,

Girls and women by delay would be horrific. People don't talk about that, but that's part of the two think, there's a policy here which I believe the binding administration should do and is likely to do. You keep a modest since, like we ve, got it now, a few thousand people? you sign on until long term, economic, diplomatic, intelligent, the military support for the government, you essentially help them survive you dont when the war, but you don't lose the war and sometimes in history? The best you can do is managers situation. I don't think we can solve Afghanistan, the history of Afghanistan, Joe suggest you can't, but bad situations can get worse, If we simply leave a bad situation, will get worse in Afghanistan, the terror Some will get worse plus it will be staying on? U s credibility similar to what we did say, what the Kurds in the Middle EAST two or three years ago, well There is, of course, an american first philosophy.

An isolationist philosophy, bite those of us who actually read A strange study has free. We understand Richard that, the World WAR two after the second world war started the twentieth century by the Germans. We laughed too since Germany, after the korean WAR, we left troops in South Korea to protect it we ve been looking out a blame myself before the two before two thousand and eleven I kept asking the question: when are we going to bring the troops home after that? for the rise of ices. It became it became pretty evident. that there are just some countries where, if we, are going to be the indispensable power on this that this planet, if we want to stop terrorist attacks from hidden our allies and United States. The twenty five hundred

oops. Five thousand american troops as part of a larger international peacekeeping force, That's an insurance policy against Four, nine eleven, I hope the Joe Biden and I hope that America's leaders Look and undemocratic alike will start framing there. In the way that you were, you were explaining it, and I wish they that we would have had a leader I have explained what America was doing what special ops forces were doing in Syria when we were not only protecting the Kurds but pushing back against the Syrians and the Russians absolute I really dislike the phrase forever wars because its pejorative it It's not really accurate. We are forever presence or open ended. Presences is Kay and, as you rightly say, we ve had it for seventy seventy five years in parts of Europe in parts of Asia and guess what we ve kept the peace and we ve.

The peace at a modest price, and I think we're not gonna keep the peace in Afghanistan is no peace to keep We can maintain and authority there that controls the of the cities and, while its imperfect it's far preferable to the alternative people seem to forget that the that nine eleven was carried out by people who were trained in Afghanistan. So this is there's a history here. So again, yes, it's easy pull your troops out and, in the short marvel quote: unquote save money and the like, but we shouldn't ourselves. We are not immune to developments there and we will work again pay a longer term price for any short, shorter term day so again hoping that migrations just sees it through just as you were saying, and then we have to go back and right. Just like Iraq, we right away. We get out of Iraq by the way. A move that I supported at the time

screw and that void. And then we had to go back again again at a tremendous human cost, two to everyone in that region, so hope They will learn less from the recent past Richard House, you very much for being on this morning in coming up Republicans, who voted in favour of and teaching former President trump aren't only facing backlash from fellow law makers in the case of congressmen, Adam Kinsey, eager the heat is from family warning is coming right. Back in time, its image, embassies, haze, brown. You know these days is just so much news to wrap your head around is challenging to get deeper understanding of things so every morning go beyond that,

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The president has a pretty eventful week. Here is first couple of official trips setting aside of one journey back to Delaware, and this past weekend we went to Camp David he'll be heading to Wisconsin for Town Hall, which he'll put to the voters themselves and explain the aid for this massive covert nineteen relief bill, which, of course he is working history in his team are trying to get through Congress to this point without much in the way of by partisan support. They have made Some overtures to Republicans there's still some hope that one or two Members of the GNP could sign on, but they are fully prepared to go it alone. To use this process, not rich of reconciliation, to make it a strictly lines vote later in the week you saying to Michigan as well to tour Pfizer plant there as part of what the administrations other focus. course beyond the relief bill is managing the pandemic indicated, that is this vaccine development and, most importantly, distribution right now we're gonna, see him be honour, force wondering when, for the first time as president be out there tat,

On the contrary, I sensed, whereas aid say he'll start to ramp up some of the travel. But the thing is going to happen this week, pretty sure Mika she's not going to talk much about impeachment and Rick delivered to present Trump over the weekend should a statement, but that's really about yet aid said: Dont want to dwell on this any further. They studiously avoided the trial as best they could. They want to turn the page and focus on governance. Why I'm an Eugene vat is really an approach. It has worked extremely well well, for Joe Biden, not just during transition, but during his first several weeks and the White House- and you have pulled out where's that show it seems will they have worked for him.

Here, we have some new pulling out this morning from political morning. Council way see sixty two percent registered voters approve of President Biden right now, and you know he promised to have this kind of boiling temperament and we focused on the issues and so far you will have seen from him and his team is a you know that, don't you were saying focusing on Colbert relieved anyone making sure they give more money to people talking about making sure they get more shots if he was armed and those its glory of activity in the first weeks, and I got rid of a lot of the most controversial pieces of executive actions that present trumpet put into place right, and so it seems that Americans are looking at what is happening in the bite in White House after four years of the damned the top administration and there like that. You know that meant something that we can get an get with the railway expecting more and so how, with another holes

gonna depend on whether or not this call it a relief bill. How big it in their being, how much money people in getting in their pocket well yeah an easy. We were obviously earlier the shelf we we're talking about our concerns about the size of the covered relief bill. And yet you look at Pauling three out of four Americans. They support the literally veil, as Joe Biden has already put out, there's a chances are good if even if he passed is it, as is economic concerns, aside that'll, be a bit one of where the american people as well. Let's talk about Donald Trump, Why? What is your pulling show about his continued hold on the republican party? Is it just as strong or arises? davy slipping about here, so there was a question interposed Donald Trump still play a prominent role

and the Republican Party overall people say twenty five to twenty five percent of people say he's playing a major role, but when you drill down and look into Republicans, fifty nine percent say made around eighteen percent, say minor. Alright, this is that the president is MRS stood a party of President trunk far president trunk and up until June if it were a kind of seeing by after genuine, were seeing republican start tat, maybe distance themselves from him a little bit in that has changed. They still have yet to decide how to you know whether continue to embrace President drum as their leader or exercise can make the politics of content and another thing that we saw that who vote for in the GEO B

Marion twenty twenty four. Fifty three percent said Donald Trump right and saw again. This is the party of Trump and what this makes it very hard for these other people. My pants Nicky, Hayley, Mitt, Romney, TAT, crews, Donald Trump turn your possibly because still dangling out this possibility of being a contender means. Everyone who wants to run has to continue to embrace him. They can't speak out against him because of how much of a whole he still has the Republican Party in they spent four years saying anyone who doesn't have kind of this undying loyalty to president former President Trump now is not related to the party into how. How can you wanna get someone like that, so until present drunk makes it clear whether not he's running in twenty twenty four, the kind of limbo there. so he's sitting at fifty three percent Jonathan on their feet, The same question were asked to Morocco of about Barack Obama by Democrats afterwards, the number

would be in the nineties. I'm not so sure that only one out of two people saying you should play a major role is is are that they would vote for primary Wicked is necessarily positive thing from I want to get back to Joe Biden. Eugene was talking about child binds approval writing sixty two percent. You followed the France. Why else day in and day out that, as an amber here did not have on election day two thousand sixteen at number he didn't get close to having didn't get within twelve the point of having during his entire presence. obviously not a number he was close to the twenty twenty election, this actually of white, what what do you see, accounting for a son? stay, two percent approval writing, which is a number do. A lot haven't seen in a very long time. Donald Trump, never approach that number Joe, even at the high watermarks. If you will residency here. He really never came anywhere near even fifty percent. Most of the time,

Thirdly, we saw him loose to Joe Biden, which fills in the lifetime ago, but just for just a few months ago. Talking, the Biden AIDS they their heartened by this number and there they attributed to a few things for small. Just simply, a change of pace of change, of tenor. Sense that Americans were simply tired of the chaos, that's rounded Donald Trump Day in day out and certainly the event as of January sixth exam. surveyed that feeling they feel like the shortly AIDS Biden AIDS point to the broad bipartisan support, that his Toby relief bill has that the Democrats repugnance alight, believe the government needs to do something. There's some question about how side how big the package should be is, as discussed earlier in the hour, but the aids of taking the pointing to this going to suggest this effort is by partisan, even though that Republicans haven't yet gotten on board with the lawmakers gotten a bore with the relief, and yet the republican voters have ended?

feel like. This is something that America recognises and also, as a final point It tends to rally around its president in a time of crisis. That is what we have seen. Certainly George W Bush after nine eleven issues. The most recent example was extreme exam all of that- and this is the nation right Now- is in a time of crisis, both health crises, the pandemic and economic crisis. The aftermath of last summer's racial going on racial justice. It's a nation in the crisis in a wants to rally round its president. It points to how didn't around Donald Trump at how Donald Trump in many ways, blue that opportunity that the pandemic even presented itself as a moment where he could have tried to bring the nation together. He could have perhaps enjoyed widespread public support and he frankly blew it. The day in day out, his mistakes led Americans to back away from rising rapidly toward. Rather rarely towards him, which is the natural instinct, is a natural instinct, and we we set it on the shelves so many times. If Donald Trump had just talked about the economy,

if he could have stayed off of Twitter, if he could I have taken the high ground. Of course, that's, like you saying, if I could flight, more Vienna and the Volkswagen he couldn't do it as you know, we couldn't do it, but if, if force in their wondering why there is such a massive disconnect between Donald Trump the numbers of he got and Joe binds number some. shove. It was just sheer exhausted that even Republicans felt people are now they're. Having dinner at night and they're not having to talk about public most Americans me. There really is not worried about what he says, there are a lot of really angry people in some of these parties that are going to talk about politics every, but most Americans, having to worry about the way crazy thing said by an american In writing de LA way, easy thing: tweeted by an american president,

and there is a return to normal see and I suspect that helping Zobeide now will that will he's they'll be having that effect. Six feeling that effect in the polls. Six months from now most likely not bite, but certainly make that helps, explain what's going on right now, that's that they now our political Eugene Daniels. Thank you very much great to have you on the shore This morning, and last week we told you about prosecutors in Georgia, opening a criminal investigation into former president trumps attempts to overturn. Election results in the state now it turns out that a phone call by Senator Lindsey Ground is part of that process. in the state attorney for Palm Beach County Dave Ehrenberg with more on that who, who did Grandma have the call with what did you say I meagre here. The call with the Secretary of State and

Turning to the Georgia secretary, Cedar, Rapids Burger RIM asked him if he had the power to throw out absentee votes from count where there is a high, not matching signature rate and that really bothered Rapids Burger but I've got to say based on what we know it doesn't to be enough to charge a crime. There are Two key elements are missing from this call. that exist in the Trump card. To this could turn you state. First, there is no recording and recording is a prosecutor is best friend, jurors, love recordings, but without it is just that he said she that situation and that brings reasonable, doubt and reasonable doubt brings in acquittal. Secondly, there is less evidence of intent here in the trunk call to the Secretary of state. He made an infamous line that I want you to find you

one thousand, seven hundred eighty votes to be exact, but in the call of grants to Rapenburg he doesn't say that and theirs beauty and in Georgia LAW, you need intent to show solicitation of election fraud or the misdemeanor crime of of trying to get an election official. Not to do his duty. And so you have a lot of missing elements here and it's gonna make it very hard for prosecutors to bring charges improve a case beyond some will doubt, but still more investigation is needed. And certainly there was an aid who expressed What Lindsey Ground was asking the Secretary of State Georgia to do cabin K, is with us and she has a question for you Dave Dave's. If, if we don't have the bay this for proving intent on grams behalf, wet weather this girl. Does it have some political ramifications for

the grand himself, even if it doesnt have some. and of legal ramification and what kind of position does it reference, burglar and he's been one of the this new of republican state officials who have come out kind of censoring people for criticising tromp reference, but of course, has been one of the few who is actually stood up for the process of democracy and for the process of the free elections. What kind of position does it put? Does it have any impact on him. This revelation and this investigation No peace always seen lately. It Polly puts Ravens Burger, more political jeopardy. The Munsey gram Miss Ingram just re elected for another six year term, and so on. Thank you ll see any flow back. South Carolina. The Ravens burger could face consequences at the rules when he's up for re election in Georgia, because people in the Republican Party fear a primary, because Republican Party has become the party of Triumph

had Linsey Graham gone further and say I want you to destroy boats. I will, I think you should talk about vat would be different. Then you could really consider filing criminal charges here right now? I think the most that the prosecutor can do is to open up a criminal investigation, but I don't think it's going to go anywhere, interesting Lee, I think there's a greater chance of I'm in charge against Rudy Giuliani because he made all statements to local instead governmental It is an the DNA in Atlanta said that she is expanding our investigation to include making a false statements- Does it really by name but we know who she is referring to and when he went before the state Senate, many in Atlanta, which is within DE witnesses district in said, there are ten, thousand dead people who voted or that there are some cases full of balance that had been counted, that's a kind of stuff. They can get you a pair of hands. So if you're really Giuliani, you may want to start but dialing

defence lawyers, because you may need them. I said attorney for Palm Beach, Dave Ehrenberg. Thank you very much for being on this morning