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2021-02-05 | 🔗

President Joe Biden's approval stands at 61 percent in new Associated Press/NORC polling. The Morning Joe panel discusses.

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Who use their faith as justification. For doing what they know is wrong. Nor do I like people who say I pray for you when they know that that's not so The Bible tells us. We be Endure for a night, but joy comes in the morning, We need a leaner one, another if one mother up, but we had to me, success. On the apprentice and when I ran for president, I had to leave the show and they hired a big big movie star harder Schwarzenegger to take my place, and know how that turned out- and I wanted pray for Arnold if we can, for those rate ex ok,. May God bless you all a different tack,
You know it reminds me of a viable oversight, is While I was watching the Matthews seven fifteen through twenty King James version, but where a few profits which come to you in sheep's clothing but inwardly, they are ravening wolves ye shall know them. By their fruits hell no them by their Briggs Willie. I you know I've been that prayer book. This now the people who run it saw what tromp yellow through the years talking about the apprentice himself, talking about himself taught attacking political, but is it Gatt and the idiot know them by their fruits in ASEAN hit. This is of every
but that you see and red letters when you read through the gospel of Jesus Christ. It's unbelievable! That's a guide, the guy, what ninety percent of the Evangelical via wow yeah yeah, I mean That'S- that prayer, breakfast and evangelicals, just one group a group that bent the knee to a man to Donald Trump during this and we're gonna hear from Senator Ben, ass of Nebraska in just a few minutes who put out at a really making video yesterday making the point that this should not be about the. Ship of one man. It should be about doing what's right in what's good for the country and good government and we say time and again over the last four years, people throwing everything to decide to bend a need to Donald Trump. You know they reduced also well what words saying that this prayer breakfast because engineer It was a really know about food sort about abortion. You have bizarre- and it is bizarre, is bizarre. You have had this.
Bizarre trend in Angela Merkel, Christianity to really do Jesus, his entire message to abortion. It's it's! it's just not there really red letters. Yes, I mean. I'm saying this is somebody who voted pro life all the time, but You cannot reduce Jesus, ministry to that and yet making you have one preacher act, another preacher after another preacher selling, their entire congregate, turns out a lot of just to touch the cloak Madame a holy man, but just a touch that cloak of a failed reality. Tv host, who is the antithesis of everything entire life. Generally, though, this cruiser
up in the charge, a group in southern Bab discharge. I those sermons and their home we now have somebody who says who said I have never had gone. I never had ass God for forgiveness. Never really thought about. Allow me to ask what you know what I have to ask: God. Forgive us not! Every day I every hour, local, we All do Christians under are supposed to understand that, but hotel, sell out and I'm so but I dont know we're going to start at the top like that, make I'm so glad we did cause it once again. It just shows the hypocrisy of religious leaders who, kowtowing to this to this falls profit just to have a little
lamps of power and the sick and personality is always he made of the prior breakfast time and you can really see the difference that wish just showed you in that Ben says. Speech will be play for you. It was pretty and a born and brought home the message on it. Level, along with Joe willing in May, we have boards when, in columnist, an associate ever the Washington Post and MSNBC political analysts, Eugene, Robinson and busy NEWS Little Hill correspondent in host of way to Worley, Casey, hunt and senior political core one in four, the Washington examiner David Trucker. We have of stories to get to this Friday morning. Former President Donald Trump rejects Democrats request for him to testify it. His impeachment trial present impasse. Heads to the State Department and lays out his vision for Europe foreign policy. The? U S,
It voted on amendments through the night bringing Democrats one step closer to passing President Biden, covert relief and oppress Paul Joe Biden, job approval rating is at sixty one percent, but that's quite high. Really, I'm not really good. At this politics thing I would follow marges at usually we're presence or no not read the gate like that at sixty one percent of it in a divided nation. So he's pudding down in and trying to avoid the fight. That's happening up work over impeachment in the United States Senate, and to show that he's getting things down and that continued overnight, as It said with another step toward the passage of this massive relief bill that the american people waiting for you. Living is again. Are you we will you look at those numbers and David Drucker than among conservatives, that I know who voted for Donald Trump and why och into so many of my friends and family members and like your voting for him, why
always started by saying he exhaust me. I'm so exhausted. I wish it shut up. I wish you'd go away. I wish he'd just sign bills there was such an exhaustion. I wonder when we see anywhere forty nine to sixty one percent approval writing with Zobeide if it's nice even some moderates out there may be some moderate Republicans. It did vote for Joe Biden has just like God, now why it's really good beer we have dinner with the family and not be talk about the latest phrased danger saying coming out of Washington D C I think that was one of the things that they heard. President Trump and the campaign, especially with corona viruses that voters voters in the right places that matter in the presidential election wanted to see some competent management, and then they wanted to have this idea that somebody at the top was leading and taking care of it.
The thing and for a lot of voters, they couldn't get that sense from President Trump, because he was constantly Blaming governors blaming mayors were problems happening with the vote, yes and the pandemic, and he wasn't Tom, everybody and taking care of at your step, one step to set free and the interesting thing about boaters? Sometimes they will open Work and we ve seen as well a lot of approval rate with governors at least over the first six seven eight months the pandemic. Even if aren't going well and the things that they are doing a politician is doing is not working if they get the sense that you're being up front with them about the problem that you're trying to said and your taking steps and that you are in charge. They gonna give you a lot of leeway and are actually gonna feel good about the job you're doing over time they will start to look at the results and over time they will start to look at the agenda a little bit deeper and overtime. Nay. Might yet
might get upset and they might, you might see, approval ratings change. We seen that with certain governors. Forty eight Governor Newsome is one example of that, but right out of the game Joe Biden is producing a difference I'll of management than its predecessor and people feel like he is taking steps to fix the problem and if he they can feel like there is, progress, then this sort of reaction from voters will continue if they in to feel like he's, not getting the job done. Then, what to see some eggs from voters and you'll have to deal with it. We are uniting a gap where's gather Newsome goes Jean Robs, and a lot of that has to do with the timing is dying, show visas by but also, I think that you see that has surprised me. I always thought we needed to stay in Paris as a conservative. I felt we needed to stay in the Paris accords. Very interesting. Looking at some of these presidential orders that he signed. I think I care what that's can be. Fifty fifty that's gonna, that's,
divide the country. Why do these things at ease signed already early? Seventeen thirty issues? Eighty twenty issues there is sexual sexual orientation nomination. What whatever the that part of his agenda that he signed as like? Ok, that's a fifty fifty because we heard an awful lot from the right on that. I think that clocked in Seventy five, twenty five eighty twenty people are like a lot of these things that we ve heard we're gonna, be so divisive through the years are actually said Many thirty issues. Yeah they are, and you know I think the other thing people area to Joe is what you know: actual a government that looks like what awaited it did. You know it's not a bunch of crazy tweets, its actual
serious actions, whether exact warders propose legislation moving it pretty much some sort of regular order there there updates by the scientists and the doctors on Corona Vice President Biden comes explains its policies and what he's trying to accomplish and and and how we try to help people. I was trying to help meetings and families across the nation. Of course she sits wandering too that's. Why are you trying to do? It is another thing to actually actually deliver, but just the sort of normal lives and peaceful pseudonyms or non craziness deserted. Inspiration, I think, is reflected and then sixty one percent figure. It's like
the war started me remember: oh yeah! This is supposed to be like it's not supposed to be. The way it was all has warrior. Yassin Let's get to the latest with a civil war within the Republican Party after House GEO, p leadership fail to take action against Congresswoman, Marjorie Taylor, green for her inflammatory? social media posts and spreading of violent crime piracy theories. Democrats yesterday took measure into their own hands with the unprecedented move to strip her from her committee assignments. Eleven Republicans joined all Democrats backing greens, removal from her two committees, one ninety nine Republicans voted. No speaking, the house floor yesterday, minority leader, Kevin Mccarthy, warned that Denmark,
We are setting a dangerous new precedent if people are held to what they are said prior to even being in this house. If majority party gets to decide who sits on what other committees, I hope you keep that standard because we have a long list. You can work within your own, no way way way to say I want to say, is outstanding going against any second, but I'm Israelis Morgan. He has long live. Oh, do you have a long list, Gavin drivel? on the list of democratic member of cod Where is calling for the assassination of Donald Trump do app we have a list of of a republican them of Congress calling for the launching of George You boy do, do you have in that Mccarthy List of yours, you're talking about. Do you have
a name of a Democrat Joseph Mccarthy called for the launching of Secretary of State Poland or wait a second? You know why you do you're lying you're lying again but Kevin. This is just what you do you down a list of heavy body that has said anything Roma. We resembling what this is Q and republican lady. His sad talk about Jew space lasers burning. California Kevin burn. Forests in California, Talk Kevin! You know, you know she actually. Actually supported the assassination of your counterpart of the democratic side. Nancy polonium wondering I want
cabin in that list of yours. I have with me a list of two hundred and thirty seven communists blab. What what's wrong with your cabin think where is stupid issue. Good because I would love for you go on Florida cabin and give us the name of the Democrats who, before they were Democrat called for your assassination called for a ban, Andy your brain? Give us Joe Mccarthy our keep your mouth shut, we're not that stupid for years, and Mccarthyism is over. Our eye is over says dial up your law to the american people insurance I've got a last cod swear to God. Why don't you just have a picture, Joe Mccarthy, by you? Surely
to those comments by cabin Mccarthy happy for either majority leader study Hoyer Point now just how recent sum of congresswoman greens, incendiary rhetoric has been on the head: floor. He dismissed They social media opposed from greens campaign show her holding an assault rifle next to three Craig will pointed at three progressive Democrats, This is an area of tea in the hands of the screen. This was on Facebook. Just a few months ago.
Fifty to carry out your clip of sixty bulls urge my colleagues to look at that image and tell me what message youth naked sense here. She is armed with a, play assault rifle four thousand eight hundred and forty three democratic members? You can say in that moment to Congresswoman Ilhan Omar is seated just behind Steny Hoyer and just hours before that vote. Congresswomen Green took to the house floor, hoping to recast herself, her days as she went on. Follower are over see school shootings are absolutely real and every child that is lost those families more net I also want to tell you nine eleven absolutely happened. I remember that day cry.
In all day long watching and on the news and that's a tragedy for any. Say it didn't happen, Never once said during my entire campaign q and on I never said any of the things that I am being accused of today during my campaign. I never said any of these things. Since I have been elected for Congress. These were words of the past and these things do not represent me They do not represent my district and they do not is that my values but congresswoman did espouse, faith and q and on during her campaign, she continued to use q rhetoric. As recently as this week on Sunday, she tweeted in part. What would the list of the anti trump? rose and associates, look like it would likely contain all the people currently frothing with mtv- hey, that's a tweet from Marjorie Taylor, green. Of course the entire basis of Cumana gets, which is referring to
There is that Democrats, people in the media, other people she doesn't like are pedophiles cannibals and satanic worshippers. Here is Marjorie Taylor Green as a candidate last July. He and the video you say quote: Q is a patriot. Do you believe that assembly I've only ever seen patriotic sentiment coming out of that source and other sources. You know there's a lot of censorship, unfortunately from big tack on social media, and this is the tigers, censorship that Americans are so tired of, and that is due to a particular source to get censored tremendously. Think Twitter has just announced recently last week that it'll be removing any one that associate themselves with was Q Annan by yet there's never been a new dangerous rhetoric coming out of a people like back. Ok, so caves, you both July twenty. Twenty, that's cannon
it. Marjorie Taylor, Green, saying again of Cuban on I've only ever seen patriotic sentiment. Out of that source here yesterday and that floor speech. She asked for mercy said she doesn't believe any of those things any more. She had quote allowed to believe things that weren't true passive voice. Someone allowed her to believe those things. I never thought I would ever see a speech like that on the house, or I don't know about the rest of you guys by watching me. Yesterday I was just stunned that someone had to go down there and say: oh yes, nine eleven that actually happened. All those people actually died. I swear. I saw it on tv myself, I mean it's, it's it. Just mind boggling and two to pick up on on Jos, point about Kevin Mccarthy and Republicans not wrong to say it's unprecedented for the Majority Party to strip members of their committee assignments, but I think it's also pointing out that when
Hon Omar Congresswoman, Johann Omar made remarks that work. It ought to be Anti semitic and she was criticised by members of her own party. Republicans called for her to be stripped of her many assignments. She wasn't, but she did actual face a resolution on the house floor, condemning the comments that she, condemning anti Semitism Anti Semitism is just one Many things that Marjorie homophobia there there's a long list of others. You saw that poster that she put up on the house floor and You know just to give you a sense of of how things are inside the capital now walking to and from that a floor to these votes? She gets in a fight with another african American. Black member of Congress, Corey Bush Nancy Pelosi talked about that there is legitimate. That she does in fact that shit,
Those apologies are not actually real. She does in fact support violence against them that it's more than just that campaign poster. And that suddenly there are members of Congress who really do feel like their safety is in jeopardy, especially after January. So I mean it's: it is an incredible statement about where we are that she had to give that speech, that Republicans in her party stood up and said. No, actually, it's fine. We want her to be on on her committees. Right and again she she didn't back off, like, for instance, on nine eleven. She talk about. She believed nine, eleven app and all she always said she believe nine, eleven Aben, Kirk and Spirit he theory about nine eleven, was that applying never crashed into the Pentagon. She didn't back after that Today she didn't say, I'm sorry, I screwed up, I believe now what she said was what I was led to believe, or I will allow that it was always a lot I believe this
I began wide about the fact that she continued defending q and on throughout our campaign and again up, listen let's talk about a couple of weeks ago, we set it yesterday, it's worth repeating today on the sixth. She was encouraging people. They come out to this rallies. You said she met with Donald Trump and basically said We ve got a lively coming today we wait and then the seventh day after cop killers after trumped supporting cop killers stormed the Kapital kill the Cobb brutalize other cops. These gave these cop killers. In these beaters. These sedition is insurrectionists they pour into the United States capital that the heart american democracy. I'm always when I walked into the house. Flora thought my God banning here right at the centre, not only of of freedom,
The chamber that guarantees freedom from air of freedom for the World I believe, an american exceptionalism and shape the day after. That place was ravaged by terrorists. She's the next day she wanted out at all here's, the interview all files to those lie with it that representative Retailer green did with notorious far right british commentator, Katy Hopkins, which was up you tube on January eighth, but it may have been filled on January seventh, the day after the attacks on the. U S because green up three wearing the same clothes coppers kill as in an interview shot, then this is how they talk to, The capital riots take a lesson used. Suppose I speak renewable myself.
I'm a foreigner, I'm an outsider, you chase the british ounces out of here wants war zone. Colleagues, I need to tell you is emotional there. On behalf of so many of us that look silly space for having drawn up for hope and you are and what you did I made a difference to so many people, and I personally wasn't it You Bobby Doomsday Chart Dobbin I've got some deadline is now. Crime television event Laura this extraordinary story, much more. What Friday, at nine age, Central NBC Bobby person, these are my side. So nice yeah, it was a hard thing we did yesterday. I will do anything else, I'm going out in the treaties.
Our hands very grateful. That is a check. I work, Whistler's, they're, they're, getting all well dogmas, holding hands and Mohammed Capital See Maggie cop killers. Russian to the United States capital carrot to shrink its terrorized small heart of democracy, to shreds, commit acts of terrorism, brutalize a police officer with an american flag and she sang We know why I won't do anything. Different is one do end in different. That was of course, a day after, of course, the mob attack and the day after she voted to discount the votes of millions and millions of black Americans and Jews, proud of that took a victory lap the day after a cop killers, Storm Dan and tore. Do you know
states, capital to shreds, hey so ran across a video and in the end, and you're no other times where somebody who write something that you wish yeah. Well, that's what exactly what I was thinking of what I would say or something. Somebody or say something: ok, that's what I've been trying to say. That's how I ve been trying to say well and across a video, been SAS talking so sending a message to them Ask a republican steering committee, and I thought this: I've been trying to tell my family where's that I love and life and that I love for the past four years been as I said it better than I have unable to save for the past four and a half years, and I would wish Every republican people. Mickey highly you were in IRAN
in four years or are MIKE Cancer is looking to IRAN in four years or all of these people who are lining themselves up to run it for years. I wish they would be honest enough to say these words to their followers take a look of weapons asset I'll. And the Nebraska every day, and very few of them are his angry about life as some of the people on this committee, not all of you, but a lot political act don't represent most Nebraska conservatives, let's be clear The anger and the State Party has never been about me violating principle or abandoning conservative policy on one of the most conservative voters in the Senate. The anger, has always been simply about me, not bending the knee to one guy. What American saw three weeks ago was ugly
shameful mob violence to disrupt a constitutionally mandated meeting of the Congress to affirm that peaceful transfer power, it happened because the I lied to you. He lie about the election results for sixty days does losing sixty straight court challenges. Many of them down by wonderful Trump appointed judges. He lied by saying the vice president, could just violate as constitutional oath and declare a new winter that wasn't true He then, while the mob that attacked the capital, many chanting hang pence. If that president were a Democrat, we both, oh, how you'd respond, but because here Republican behind his name. Your defending him. Something is finally changed over the last four years, but it's not me personality colts, aren't conservative Conspiracy theories aren't conservative.
Lying that an election has been stolen, not conservative, acting like politics, Their religion, it isn't conservative Nebraska ends- are raging x and that's good news. You are one come to censure me again, but let's be cool about why this is happening. It's because I still believe, as you use to that politics is about, weird worship of one dude? The party could purge trump sceptics. But I'd like to convince you that not only is that civic cancer for the nation, it just terrible for our party. Yeah Willie a lot of people get look at this and say with g. I wish Ben Sasse. It said this over the past four and one slash two. You know what I'm glad he's saying it now we had as a body politic politic. Over the past five years. We still the cancer there. So I want good people it can reach out to an end.
Start sending this message over an obvious: they shouted Diablo, lousy on Twitter WWW. I didn't do it here that ok, we're dead with today and moving forward, and Willie that's an important message that any Republican who wants to lead this party, who wants to, this country and twenty twenty four needs. This are sending to their base. I love the line, especially level. Especially where he said yes, something saints over the past four years, but has not been made it so funny. When people come up to me, Therefore- and I ll go you so I gave you a conservative, I smile, and I let everything go past, but in that I stop people, then their tactical. Ok, really, let's, let's talk through the years sir, and twenty minutes later there like. Why did I ever stop this guy because
something has changed, but it's not It's not what is and what isn't conservative it's the republican base who is followed this? failed reality tv house and joined a personality cult, and also for me and for what most important to me. It is there that people in my church people of my Faye pastors. They group waste, a personality cold and they replace politics for Faye in Guide and they will move in that direction for twenty years, but over the past, for years man. I agree I ve been says to me: people have replaced their faith with politics, a ruddy go watch, them
about five minutes, you can buy the agreed with him or not whether you like it or not. It's worth just listening to the message at this moment in our country. In the reason he sat down and made. That speech is because the Nebraska State Republican Party committee it within that party is debating censure of benzene senator, because here spoke out against the election lie. He called the lie and did from the beginning and said I don't like it, but Joe Biden at present it states move along and for saying that, for speaking, that truth, there were working party in the Stave Nebraska wants to censure Vance Ass, so David Drucker, I guess the question is: will other Republicans look at the example of bans? he talks about. In that speech he made he got a primary. So what a lot of republican sphere is if they speak out against tromp updates.
Got against his movement and his voters. They get a primary, they lose their seat. Thence ass. I said I didn't vote for Trump and twenty. Sixteen didn't both form and twenty twenty. He got a primary. He one is primary by fifty percent, five zero percent and that, of course went on to win in IRAN in the general election will other Republicans look at bends ass. I know it's harder and many house districts, but will either look look at his example and say the cost of speaking out from time to time, when you think it's worth it when it's important is that you lose your job, it's that people say. I trust that guy hey everyone? It's true, mainly MSNBC, corresponded and hosted the PA cast into America Array once a storm and then a freeze for Jackson, Mississippi's ancient pipes system to its breaking point most of the peace Who does what are our black this week into America,
with Jackson Resident living through the crisis. I remember I even thought about luxury animals like oh, my god. We gotta go wash well, there's no water in the city to do that and mere sharply the member explains how decades of inaction and neglect disrupted the citizen access to one of the most basic resources. I do think that, if we're being honest it's a matter of race, search for into America, where we listening now subscribe dinner, vary from Republican, the Republican, because so many republican voters we discuss this believe present Trumps depiction of what happened. Election and vague, Conservatives in Jos Point not by issues anymore, but by whether or not you have the right enemies and, whether or not you are willing to fight even against the truth, because they don't look at the truth, the same leg and inciting bench.
Ass, is in a unique position where he has just one reelection. With six year term, he was very quiet leading up to his Marion Nebraska, which tells you that even he was being very careful about not smoking and anti trump a backlash, your voters who wanted him to be more. Firstly, aligned with Trump and we're always uncomfortable with working was and Republicans, and I talk to you now our deal with this on a daily basis, you ve seen from some Senate Republicans led by minority leader Mcconnell, a willingness to butter the house business and speak out against. Retailer brain, because their worry that this sort of spirit, oral strain of Republican some is gonna, take over the Party pollute Party and hurt party in next Here's mid term elections by the same How can you still have such a strong, rain of wild the President Tromp, because every time these Republicans go home, voters are telling them that we,
they'll believe in Trump and that nothing had happened on January six as in the end, and so I think the party right now use the thinking the word civil war is a little bit too strong. There is a schism and There is a sort of the Earl of family food site. If you will, as some report and say to themselves It's no longer worth it. If I lose, I lose, but the majority of Republican still want to be around Washington for a lot longer than and tromp was and not willing to go home and tell their voters, something that really don't want to hear and I'll just say this This is a lot more difficult for them to do, politically than explaining even a bad or a tough. Oh that's the kind of thing. That's almost. By comparison. When you look at how our voters in any of these. Strikes and states.
What happened in the election and an a great example of that is marked Sandford. Works and forget caught in a scandal yeah scanned Resettle marks, amp it'll never go but give it. You want around just talk Nobody said this one idea I screwed up, I'm very sorry very humble about it and he went further by voting by voting by Ferber. Ass for their forgiveness asked for their vote. They gave it to and he got a wife did back the Congress. But when you only four Donald Trump nine out of ten times when you only vote with Donald Trump, ninety percent of it I like marks an for dead. That gives you voted out. That's where the Republican Party has been over the past for years. We gotta go scandal, that's fine, but what does that's? That's really weird?
now to the legal ramifications of the big lie. The voting software company, Smart Matic, is suing Fox NEWS for more than two point seven billion dollars over false reports. It was part of the consumer, say to steal the twenty twenty election, the law filed in New York. State court accused some of the network's hosts, like who Dobbs Maria barter Romo Engineering, Piero of tension allay lying about the company in an effort to mislead the public into false belief that the later, Election was still from former president Trump? also named the law suit, our pro tromp attorneys, rubies, Giuliani and Sydney power. The When you see released a statement yesterday, saying quote Fox is responsible for this information campaign which has damaged mark receive worldwide and irreparably
harmed Smart matic and others holders who contribute to modern elections, foxes funded, saying quote Fox NEWS. Media is committed to providing the full context of every story with in depth, reporting and clear opinion we are out of our twenty twenty election coverage and will vigorously defend this merit list law suit in court. Spring and former? U S attorney now and NBC News law enforcement analyse, Chuck Rosenberg is joining us on the phone check. What do you make of this lawsuit? How significant is it? No, I think it's very significant, but I also think Mika. It is hard for public figures or a public company in this case to win these losses, because the Supreme Court has said that if you are a public figure
and you're defamed. Then you have to show actual malice and that's a hard thing to do not impossible and greatly Lee statements that were made on Fox news by bankers and by its guesswork were so far so recklessly fall, so the family- or it might be the case here- that Smart Matic can prevail, we'll have to wait and see it'll take time for that play out in the courts? But I don't blame them for brain suit. Their business will undermine their reputation, was damaged. They have every right to try this case in court. Rights of such law suits, maybe resonating to those outlets that have broadcasts conspiracy theories hears segment news, MAC Newsman earlier this week, where one of the hosts has to cut off. Under of my pillow, like Lyndal, as
began- an attack on dominion. Voting systems like like your target about machines that better. We knew smacks of not being able to verify any of those kinds of allegations we just want to. Let people know that there's nothing substantive, that we Let me read you something there. While there were some clear evidence of the sun case was about around intellectual irregularities. The election result in every state were certified and NEWS Max accepts the results as legal and final. The courts have also supported that view. So that happened a number of times that kept going until that host actually walked away from the campaign. So strategic. Let's find that clear Bari, because that guy I gotta say that's Willie.
Ass, a hero, move right, my hope, never to peddle island. They let you waited. He became an axe kept talking over mister pillow, and then we had the reader statement. Mr pillow can't talk and, and Indeed, the Eric Hartman thing you screw those guys. I'm out of here any leaves there was a pro move. This the old days when Mr Pillow, which is the guy on in the middle of the night with his creepy porn, stash hugging a pillow and you could just enjoy what it was and now he's this other guy, but by the way that has the same house came back. Next day. I news MAC somebody got to him and said: welcome all views, including those of Mr Pillow, and he will be back on this network soon, so their absorbing torn and a bunch of different directions. Robinson, you know I've been a journalist, all my life, and so I do not like frivolous.
Libel went estimation law suits, I think they bear at threat right. It's not free speech, but I think this is not that big business in question to rose Berger I mean to sort of on the scale of of Promotion and marble litigation strikes me as being closed. Or to assume tat could prevail. That could actually pay. Actual now worse than ninety percent of such suitable I've ever seen, because there There were two months worth of evidence of actual malice when court after court at the court found all the stuff untrue. Yet these people continue to say at it certainly showed recklessness regard bird
the true, but it does it's not really lead to go to act from ours. Is it Chuck, or even I think, you're right? It really is not a leap near the two hundred and seventy six page lawsuit, the work my way through I'm doing that. But you are right that statements in this case about Smart Matic would just do. It is absolutely wrong. They were far. They were patently false and soap number one blame the company for doing this, because it undermine their reputation and damage their business and number. Two to your points, I think you're exactly right. I think this is one of those rare cases that the defamed party, in this case
magic. The company can actually win, but, as you also pointed out, the half, the shell actual malice. If the court's decide that Smart Matic is more like a public figure, it becomes harder. If the court's decide that Smart Matic is more like a private, individual or private company, it becomes easier but you're, absolutely right, Eugene Miss it is the case they can win. Smart Matic did very little business in the United States in the twenty twenty election. I believed that they only worked in LOS Angeles County of their business and most of their revenue for election security, work comes from abroad, and so the notion that Smart Matic, rigged the election or falsified results, or through the President Trump or worked in cahoots with the former president, the dead president, the Van as well It's just insane, and so can they when this lawsuit? Yes, they can so check the nuts.
Two point seven billion dollars. We heard some other numbers when demeaning was talking about suing specific members. Some of the attorneys involved here a couple of weeks ago, it sounds like an outlandish number, perhaps they're, just making a point by throwing that out there If you were any of the defendants listed, would you be worse this morning about process, asian number one and having a cop up a bunch of money number to the yes votes to one Yes, it is to do. I would absolutely be worried. Work as a guest shell, which I am now I'm entitled to state my opinion. So if I wanted to say that x, wisely company Willie made awful vanilla ice cream, just the worst vanilla, ice cream and the entire planet, that's ok. I can say that that's my opinion and opinions are protected. I could also say that that was true there were some waited determine Willie that that was actually true, but I couldn't safer and he said Ex wisely company that makes vanilla ice cream
is controlled by Hugo Chavez and that they manufacture it on Mars using aliens, that's recklessly false, that's a lie, and so If I was on a show as a guest or as an anchor or host, and I was lying about smart magic and what they did in how they did it. I'd be worried now, Jacques, thank you so much. We really appreciate your call an end grey, we appreciated and really does make the worst ice cream operators will be out straight. Kids of combat illegal, I get a green in the rocks, it just doesn't work its role in the area of evils, AEGIS, don't have it you really don't you get. It is lower so anyway, Willie Yellow obviously we're talking about facts, that's you got a lotta definitions. Going there is for is a media outlets, so so yeah we'll see how that goes, data
people, who really have a lot of reasons that we worry Rudy Giuliani here, sit me Powell, MR pillow. These people that are saying that Hugo Chavez founded this company in all of the bizarre theirs is wearing what I'm saying you see those two people are there, that's too People are attorneys, they re not only took the boarding does the law they had do understand, Willie that they couldn't defame caught me They did it knowingly. We Langley repeatedly Mr Pillow Ethos, pillar right. He sells pillar so he's still in trouble, because Egypt line about it, I'm sure mister pillow, as lawyers had told him, he was lying about it, but for the individuals, especially these lawyers. Woe.
Rains gonna fall yeah. That's who I was really asking about with chalk. Are our people like Rudy Giuliani in Sydney POW who went out and tried to make the legal arguments again and again and again before microphones on tv and in courts even art Is there exposure? I mean that's it. He says you know if your public company or public are you not people can say whatever they want about you, but you can't make up. Lies that defame hurt. The bottom line of the business was a too seven billion dollars worth of business. I'm not so sure about that, but I think you just heard from Chuck internet to take it for me that people like Julie in power should be very worried this morning, and why haven't they then this board? Why haven't they think? bored. I seriously bill Clinton We have to do all this bar for committing perjury in the deposition by the art.
The Supreme Court, the United States needs people have been, going around spreading wise as lawyers five baseless law suits in federal court and they haven't been. What are you kidding me? I've been there very, very their screwing with american democracy. They're lying about american democracy they're lying in federal courts. Why and they ve been disbarred. I need an answer to somebody means a good answer on why these people have not been this bar and kind, and will we want mention that the season, or finale a veto. Swift, Chuck, Rosenberg elevate. Now, where you get
I guess I don't care. I can't believe the cliff now dead can be, as is clear, anger at the end in Uganda to teach a really do the candidates Ike one way, does he's right. I too much slave David, Drucker and gazing on. Thank you both for you reporting Stella morning, Joe the press, and says he is open to targeting stimulus checks to Joe to those who are suffering the most from the economic downturn, save Ratner, joy, as to break down the options currently being consider plus president by Declares America is back in his speech at the State Department, we'll talk but his plans for U S, diplomacy with Richard House you're watching morning, Joe we'll be right back, but he hold on a second, like my coat on one. Second, let's talk a little bit about just what
happening overall in terms of censorship?
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