Prudence sought to shake the very foundations of the free world. Thank you again make it ben to his managing ways, but it badly calculated here rollin ukraine in the world would roll over. Instead, met with a mall wall to wall Twenty, never imagine he met the ukrainian people That was president Biden eleven months ago, delivering his second state of the union address days after russia's invasion of ukraine. Tonight, his speech, it's going to be heavily focused on reminding americans. What is it frustration has accomplished over the past two years ago. Says ukraine is now preparing for a major russian offensive. more in the mobilization of troops and Putin's army mean we are learning more about the chinese surveillance balloon that was shot down and other incidents that went under

did by? U s forces also ahead. The latest from turkey key and syria, where the tal was rising following a massive earthquake and rescuers continue to hold out hope of finding survivors good morning and welcome to morning Joe, it is tuesday february seventh, the death toll from that powerful earthquake in syria and turkey has passed five thousand and continues to climb a seven point. Eight magnitude quake hit the region yesterday, along with multiple aftershocks, including a seven point, five magnitude, one that struck just our later, tens of thousands since I have been injured and search and rescue efforts are under to find people who may still be trapped under the rubble. More than six thousand Buildings collapsed in turkey. According to a state run news agency, the earthquake also so

new devastation to war ravaged syria, a region already plagued by a twelve years. civil war and humanity, in crisis and be seen Is foreign correspondent? Matt broadly has more on one of the dead disasters in years, in turkey. Buildings still falling the heartbreaking death toll son heaps was the fear now aftershocks. This one captured television, the tv the reporter, starts to run. You can hear a building crashing down behind leader of finding a we that somehow made it out alive, then they don't get away kidding twelve hours after the first or quick amended seven point, eight security cameras down buildings, here. Rescuers are coming through rubble on another building collapsed.

Nearby, rescued recent defined survivors. Still traps done an undated would like green son is eighteen months old. Please help my family, she begged losing her missing. Relatives had been on the twelfth floor, the quake hit along the turks syria border in syria, volunteer rescue workers from the white helmets were used to rescuing civilians from bombing many his victims, refugees read her ready, lost their homes and war. Like eighteen month old, ragged rescuers, saved your life, but a pregnant mother, brother and sister were killed Do the sound of the ceiling had directly fallen on them, said raggedy uncle I'm sending over the main ones, survivor northwest. Syria described emergency crews, desperation few people working in their hands. This region afflicted by war, and now an earthquake help can't come soon enough

turkey has taken in three point: six million syrian refugees, many of whom were affected by the earthquake. The united nations says to point seven million syrians live in the north. Western part of the country near turkey's boy and the quakes at the center So you and says it's refugee agency is not fully operational because of damage to its offices and warehouse. Now Sarah nations, including the? U s are sending rescue personnel and supplies to the region. President Biden call turkey's president. Yesterday too, press, his condolences and coordinate aid teams from Virginia S. Ask for one and the los Angeles county fire department will be deployed as well as. U s supported humanitarian groups, we will get alive report from

devastated region ahead in our next hour of mourning Joe willie year, we woke up this morning to death toll over five thousand. That number expected to only go up from here. As you said, the united states, among many many nations sending rescue teams to help, will come back to the story in just a moment. Here at home. President Biden says the suspected chinese spy balloon incident will not damage diplomatically actions between washington in beijing speaking the report outside the white house. Yesterday, the president commented on china's decision to Why a surveillance balloon over the united states and his administration's decision to shoot it down the very clear trying to overrun. Do they understand our position? We're not going to back off? We did the right thing and there's no pressure to weaken reality

the chinese government. The laugh from president, there were learning more about the balloons design. Now the commander of nor add says it was two hundred feet tall frame of reference. That's about four times this the bee. Snoopy balloon at the latest. Giving a parade. Today, the balloons degree feel was about fifteen hundred meters by fifteen hundred meters or fifteen football fields by fifteen football field. Huge while the fence officials acknowledge they have failed to detect suspected Any surveillance balloons in the past is not the first time and only learn at them later from intelligence agencies. The commander of north, northern command in north american aerospace defence command do contracts when the previous lapses in the suspected spy balloon that was shot down on saturday, did describe surveillance gap and said the: u s figure out why the earlier flights went undetected, general glenn, then herc said I will tell you that we did not detect those threats and that's

domain awareness gap that we have to figure out a domain awareness gap- joe that's it get you from is, and we have to start using that one, but the fact of the matter was this was huge. The president decided in the middle of last week that he wanted to shoot down. They develop an offence said we agree, we can shoot down, but let's wait till it gets out over water and now we're getting an idea of how big this as balloon seems like an understatement at this point to describe this thing there is massive by the way domain awareness gap. I wish I had that high that sounds actually I'm sorry ma'am. I can't complete this task. I have a domain awareness gap as well as to trig yeah. So you know, laugh when asked why? Why do they do and of course his answer was because the chinese I always said this during then they all information about the russians to use. from a miss misinformation.

information, but also, spying on ice one way or the other and I'd sordid smiled and and laugh? Isn't that what we do that too? I should to. We do that. China, too, I mean part of him in black he couldn't say it. I'm sorry. I might have been a lot of people when I say it, but it's I grow up. This is This is what superpowers have done, since they become superpower. Satellites are flying over us right now, their flying over china. Right now I thought more polymers optimists set at best yesterday when he said he s. Ok, so yes, this this balloon is one of like thirty or forty way, the chinese spy on us. It's not even in the top twenty of what our until agencies should be concerned about, of course, because it is floating in the united states it's going to draw attention, but I there is actually think. There's a little gentlemen concerning this is this is happening at what three four times during the trumpet ministry

Should I probably happened before that they do. Need to figure out how how does these earlier. I know never heard about it during the tropic administration, because they didn't talk about it or maybe they didn't pick it up until it left the country it is a serious problem on the bigger issue, though: let's wait hosting we too early whitehouse beer achieve political. Also mirror you know. I call around yesterday too, to quite a few diplomats and everyone at the same thing about anthony waken cancelling instruct agenda. We understand why he did it for domestic political reasons, but it same time that didn't make the world a safer place. China and the united states need to get together. They mean to talk, and there was she's on pressure, the reset that meaning as soon as possible because again we're looking at

you're threatening, use nuclear weapons, china. As a counterbalance to that you you talk about global economic problems. Global economic forces I speak, able to court, with china ever ways. We can economically also good for the world's economy. You could talk, of course, also about climb. changing to talk about one of a hundred issues, the two world superpowers and need to be talking- and so some people, maybe off guard by what As I said yesterday, I certainly wasn't and every diplomatic I'll, do yesterday said these. Countries need to get together and talk. The balloons gone I'll start talking again because the world's a much more dangerous place when the united states and china are not together. Talking here, there's no question china's are. You asked the? U s: spies on china. Frankly, there we spy glass on the tick tock. At that I know you have on your phone, Joe, that is perhaps

greater error, but by the way on everyone's have on funds. I have because my tik tok accounts I live, but you there foreigners- I I you are right, though I'm glad you brought up tick tock, because while everybody was bitching and moaning about this balloon, I felt like saying look down at your telephones place Look at your telephone. You wanted to about china's surveillance in the united states. Look at your I found and not let the sky. The problem. Is you yeah there listening to you they're following your patterns on Tik tok, every thing, it's bad yeah and that the idea, the problem is that with this balloon it was just so blatant and it caught america's attention and therefore became this diplomatic snafu to your point. The secretary of state visit a fact that was our call. Yesterday with john curbing and the national security council spokesman, who made clear this trip is not cancelled, it was postponed, it will

but again- and he suggested though no date has been set- that they hope to have it Sooner than later, because of that long severe issues that you yourself are meant to go went through that these two superpowers need to talk about, particularly in the light of new reporting about how chinese in his defence industries are still supporting, perhaps subtly russia's war effort and then another final lot on timing. Why this needs to happen soon. Let's remember, of course, the fewer that erupted when speaker Pelosi went to taiwan last year and diplomatic relations between china, you asked the two countries basely stopped talking to each other for a few months until presence by as she metabolic well. Newspaper mccarthy is made clear, Plants go to taiwan and go to town on soon- there's a sense they want to try to and warm relations even further before that happens, all. This has a backdrop tonight. President Biden will give these state of the union address sources inside the white house, say parts of that speech

dress, china are being added after the shooting down of that chinese surveillance balloon over. All the white house says the president wants to remind americans of the progress that has been made since he took office, especially on the economy. The president is x, and to call on congress to pass legislation on his tax planned four billion areas, as well as a universal cap for insulin, prices and police reform. Let's bring in the ceo of the Messina group, Jim Messina. He served as white house jeopardy chief of staff to president obama and ran his twenty twelve re election campaign. Also, with us founder of the conservative website the bulwark charlie sykes and Jim first question in terms that the president and messaging tonight in terms of his accomplishments complements what does he. To do to really take our from the past two years he's

explain what he's done. Six in ten americans don't know, that's not surprising. It's exactly what we went through on the obama reelect he's gotta start to set the stage near the bully. Pulpit of the president doesn't really exist anymore. He just has a couple of very big opportunities. This is the biggest one he's going to have. This is one time where the voters actually look in and say: okay, what's my doing what is going to do to make my life better tonight to absolute crucial beginning of that conversation with the american voter. So Joe, yes, and also voters will hear this in a huge, response from republicans all over the internet, many of them have podcast of their own. In later in the senate. So it is hard to get a solid message across In this current atmosphere, he's got the bully. Poland I mean to to quote Wine from the michael was book that then I did that headline

vision is a new television, the boy pulpit the new bully parliament, which is to say the more things, change the more stay the same in charlie sykes. I remember being so frustrated bill. Clinton hid, sit there to drown. Ah, for, like Rural areas of the union speech be like man, I'm gonna go down in the club. Groom wake me up near then, so I can get up and applied, but he just go up there and you know why these put american asleep- he didn't buy this data is dead. The union addresses I learned about the lesson those things are powerful and and just drive home accomplishment after accomplishment? Why, sure I did you know wisconsin politics so well, eggs and Joe Biden talk about tonight to dig there is constant voters to show wisconsin voters that their vote

raymond twenty twenty made sense and vote for him in twenty twenty four would be bad as well What he's gotta do is yet talk about a substantive record. Nothing, that's! What's going to be interesting. Tonight is the watch the contrast between the president between the about a substantive record and dad, but the performative. how some of your d how they respond to to him because of course, they're gonna be under a lot of pressure from their base to to engage in the kind of tantrums that we saw last time will be interesting to see how cabin mccarthy or respond, but what what he's got to do is he actually has to start using the bully pop up and in I had to admit that show that that, having spent about forty years watching these data, the Union'S- I am a little bit jaded because they did rounded by a lot of high but a lot of city. You a lot about pomp and circumstance. I'm trying to remember one that actually move the needle buck. Joe Biden has to begin breakthrough. Did the american?

evil, which he has not done so far, and I he has not really used the bully pulpit and all the ways that other president's had they have done. A lot of, although office addresses that have not been a lot of these as set pieces. So he's gonna make the most of this moment, but I think that it would be somewhat naive to think that visit when you buy a transformative moment. This is gonna, be a long slog where it's white house is going to have to you, know, buckle down and realize that it has to tell its story, and it has to tell it over and over and over and over again, in the face of, what's going to be a lot of smoke and mirrors coming up from the opposition and again I don't expect the speech to be particularly riveting, but I am going to be watching the response from the republicans who, of course, Again, you know manage to up managed make quite a spectacle of themselves a year ago and donald trump has

must have video at the end of this, too, will watch for that jonathan le the mere we know the talking the white house, these last several months in particular, but really last who, having some of the frustration they feel about not having there accomplishments acknowledged, I recognize you look at that Paul from the Washington post. Sixty two percent of americans feel that present by nasa push very little, not very much whatever the term was the wrong track. number in the monmouth poll yesterday, with seventy three percent, they say we came in during a pandemic. We pass one point nine trillion dollars and that rescue package to save businesses, to help families, health care as expand more people ensured than were before unemployment at three point, four per you know, the litany. So how does the president briggs that number. One and number two is this in some ways: a on official launch, his re election campaign, if he does in fact decided to run again it's being pursued.

This as a soft law. We certainly won't hear him tonight, declare it cannot say, that's probably not coming for at least a few weeks, if not a couple of months, but this is his biggest change this year to talk about what is administration has done and also themes going for the white house, aids have told me we just talked to mention shared state union, Lauren, bo bobo, marjorie taylor, green literally standing up heckling a jolly at the present? Well, they hope that happens again. Why do you say cause? They think it draws a really sharp contrast between their sort of radical rhetoric, incendiary behaviour forces. The present I say somber important leaders we're. Also gonna, hear certainly on the deck ceiling. same look. This is too important to negotiate, but we need to get this John, who should be above politics here and that that's too important for mess with republican such a Messina. This is something where the white house depressed

charlie's boy is going to to talk to wisconsin voters tonight, but also tomorrow, he's going to wisconsin I'll, be part of that trip with republicans in charge, the house, inherently tonight's speech, is going to be a little bit backwards. Looking hey here are the things that we've done because realization, Can we get a lot done the next two years, because the roadblocks they're going to put up the voters want here about the future budgetary voters think the countries on the wrong track. How does the present threat that real tonight

it's the hardest thing. We went through this with obama campaign exactly right sure what he's gotta do is first set the stage and talk about what he did, why people's lives are better and then he's got to look at some of the things that haven't gotten done that are wildly popular child tax credit. Some of these other things and drive straight at it and say this is what I will do to make your life better. He can and must do both. He can walk and chew gum and tomorrow he's going to the most important state in american presidential campaign, wisconsin where we've seen a manufacturing boom and really go straight at it and say if you like what you've seen so far wait till we continue. This is progress for the next two years. He has an amazing record to sell he's, got an ability to do it now that he's to go out to the earlier point and do it over and over and over again, what's underlined that factor that better, I can see you're here if they dont think

the guys accomplished much? They just aren't paying attention and they aren't paying attention. Obviously, because of all the distractions that are going on, but you you look at the fact that unemployment is at a fifty year, low childhood poverty is at a fifty year. Low there's been, the massive bipartisan structure, railroads pass, there's been bypassed, guns, safety legislation, that's pass one thing after another. Over the past couple years we ve talked about it a good bit gems. my question: is the viewer if your writing, the president's speech, we are concerned in repeating those things that are you, so you can do both but watch your emphasis repeating those two things are acts daring to go when too public at my house and just more, the contrast by the fact that you know a lot of people that are running the house of representatives now we're insurrectionists, weirdos and freaks

I look. I go straight at what he has done. I'd stay very focused on the economic stuff. He was there it's present to win a presidential campaign and lose the economic argument in twenty. The Democrats right now trail the republicans in the economic argument you- and I have talked ad nauseum about this and democrats have to seize this moment. This is his bully pulpit moment. He needs to tell the american people what he did and what he's going to do to make their life better he can go at. The insurrection is a little bit later yeah, although I do think the midterms are one a lot, because people don't like insurrections and they like democracy, it's true and he stuck to that

Others were thinking what about this. What about that we'll talk about this more? In fact, still ahead on morning, Joe will be joined by white house private secretary corinne jumping ahead of president Biden, said of the union address tonight, plus new pauling is taking a look at what most americans think of the house geo bees, so called weapon association committee or digging into those new numbers. Also, this morning, one of the most prominent groups within republic in politics club for growth? Has invited several potential geo p presidential candidates to its annual. and we're treat next month and one big name. Is not on the list and ukraine bracing for a renewed russian offensive later this month. As the war nearest, the one year mark will take a look at where things stand overseas you're watching joe we'll be right back

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fully we got twisted around beyond commission disliked the conservative moment, just like the republican party and they became hacks, nothing more, nothing more than hacks we're gonna drop shameless? I made my god. I couldn't believe what I was saying, and I know that too my close friends that were there on the ground floor who passed away I would have been so disappointed to see how how they, been themselves so badly for four? For a guy that was the biggest spending president in the history of the united states. What do I say I say this because we heard about the cup network yesterday and by the way koch brothers charles cope were made any sick. The fact they had no use for donald trump club for growth completely different, but now

for growth Why there inviting a lot of potential presidential candidates to its annual donor retreat next month in florida, one notable exception, Donald J trump wow groups present a guy. I know a guy. I served in congress with came together, witted monopoly for David Mcintyre said the republic. are these chances. Are we taking the white house and twenty twenty four would diminished, if Donald more than our money. That is a big change. The new york times reports it courting a mcintosh party should be into another candidate, suggested the Republicans already lost too many elections, whether Mr Tromp, as a phase of the party, my guy, my god, just starting to look up and notice that they lost and twenty seventeen, because a prompt, twenty eight t, because from twenty nineteen because from they lost

in two thousand and twenty because of trump they lost in two thousand and twenty one because of trump they lost in two thousand and twenty two because of trump and trump. On they'll lose and twenty twenty four can touch added. That trump had proved to be toxic general election voters. Getting there begins at a loss. Elections. Are there you're? Eighteen, twenty twenty two on the? residents wide that begins or invited. The great include rhonda satis, snaky hayley mike pants, my palm pale tempts and go anyone can the clever I spent hundred fifty million dollars over the past two election cycles in a spokesman for trump declined to come the times- and it said pointed to three social media posts. Two weeks ago was a former president repeatedly attacked the club, charlie sykes Get me one

charlie. You now to my to my first supporter guys. It's imported me. in nineteen. Ninety four, when I had no chance of winning no chance at all, I was thirty year old guy, that he body believed them, but these two guy said you know on scarborough you're a small from a conservative and we know you go up their fight and we don't care, we don't care. Will. Storm money, take it, and then they do this thing with club for growth, because data they didn't care about? Republicans they didn't care about. Democrats, they cared about fiscal responsibility and the sea what happened with club for growth over the past three four five years on just get it all of its crew. Was it's just that first form of hackers. But this a big change. The fact that now Turning on the guy that they ve been shamelessly defending access,

that that's even bit of morbid tipping point for me, then charles coat yet because, as I said for charles net romanian, these sacred the fact he didn't like donald trump, ok, so I'm having flashbacks now joe, because in and by the way your language to describe what happened at the club is is not an overstatement at all them in the hackers it be it burned. I'm in I remember back and twenty Sixteen with a club for growth actually was at that time very anti tromp impact in wisconsin during the wisconsin primary they ran at anti tromp ads. planing how to block trump and then, as you describe David mackintosh in the other hacks at the club programme. God the board they made the bargain with with trumpism and they basically vanished and became a creature of of of of the donor class. So I mean yes, it is good that they're recognizing that perhaps this is a bad course. I'm a little scared

all about whether or not the coke network and the club for growth are really going to change the dynamics, but maybe they pay permission structure for other donors, other conservatives to begin backing away from trump, but I did a podcast the other day with Rick Wilson, and we were both remembering how don't in two thousand and sixteen we're all lined up against trump. You know you would have these conversations, you know we can't. We got to stop him. What are we going to do one by one? Each and every one of them got one board when they saw, which way the wind was blowing. So right now cocky a good game. The question is, if their whole could it is he can't win? What happens if he starts winning? What happens at the polls dart? Turning what but there are one and eat of these groups, each of these guys because they belong track record of hackers. I think our likely due to defer get back on board one is the issue here is about

the forum, willie, I mean We can say right now: it from runs troms travelling, when primary contests and the republican party can winning the republican party best. The issue by Democrats hope Democrats, pray, democratic, are are- are- are hoping beyond hope that donald trump is nominated because he's a loser in general elections, you'll. Never when the suburbs of atlanta again he'll, never when the suburbs of Billy again he'll, never win this wing there's that he needs to win so question is whether they're stupid enough, whether these donors are stupid enough and short sighted enough to raise it donald trump. The second he's swimming republican, primary contests, because that's not the issue, this I can win republican primary contest, He'll just lose them there for years and the white house and that's exactly the point

mackintosh, runs the club for growth made yesterday in that new york times species, which is that it sincerely principled objection to donald trump, they do said, look at the last they elect he's lost them all. He dragged us down. The club for growth last fall in the mid term. Elections ran against down promptly and in a lot of racism, one some of them in lots of them, so they ve. They have now decided, as you say, one of those deathbed convergence that you say, you'll take it whenever you can get it, but here they are coming back. For now, anyway, the trump train- and, I guess Jim Messina to charlie's paul, You know the money flows where the power is and if Donald trump emerges again as this, the leader of the parties starts winning again and some of these people jumped into the race. Don't really look like someone who can beat donald trump and primary? Does the club for growth? Does that? Does the coke network do those evangelical groups have started to walk away from him. Do it really stay away from donald trump or they say. Well. I guess the guy we'd better back him. Now

well. That's exactly right, they're going to go right back and support him. This is about power, and this is them saying we have to be with a guy who is the nominee, and so this deathbed conversion is wonderful, we're all excited about it. It doesn't matter because I'll be right. There appease the republican nominee for president and let me just to be clear- and I completely agree with the previous speaker, Donald trump will lose to Joe Biden. He will absolutely lose. Joe Biden might mop the floor with him in a general election. They have none to look at in the pennsylvania senate, race or the most predictive factor. How voters are going to vote in the pennsylvania senate. Race was their view of donald trump, not the sitting. President Joe Biden not fetterman, not doctor oz, it was their view of donald trump, and that is just proof of how Donald trump is toxified the republican party and will continue at it, took it took years and at that point two willies made about principal objections:

Now this is about throw up against, are not walk away from donald trump because of january six, because of his behaviour uncovered because he had dinner with a white supremacist because of any of that because of Helsinki we go down the less. It is because he lost at it for the first time it sticking to him he is being blamed for the defeats in november, which should have been a very good republican cycle and turned out not to be what is worse, the stunning stunningly. So, of course, you can't beat something with nothing so there's going to be another Republican who does stepped to the forefront, who is able to beat tromp most as on governor descent, despotism, unproven, national commodity will have to see about that months ahead, and we know that republic you're gonna start jumping in Nicky Hayley next week will be the first it'll go from there the bigger the failed joe, also the sense- that's probably better for trump as well, but it is certainly rattling right now that some of these moneyed groups, these interest groups, powerful voices in iraq- a party want nothing to do with it,

in writing. Ro. The word I think the operative word that I heard was permission structure. Jim is china We now have we done classes and both parties? Ok, you're, not me, I'm I remember early on when bravo Alma was a young senator. This guy is never going to beat Hillary Clinton. There's no way he's going to beat Hillary Clinton. This was in two thousand and seven the Clinton machine is going to just it might, and then is is to thousands of his first financial report as woe. Ok, now, vat. Scattered, provide proof russian structure to other donors to say maybe I'll a good chance of those young guy too, and of course, I did in this case it's a little more excellent work. obligated isn't, because people start writing checks they want their person do immediately start winning. I dont know

Hu, the adult in the room is, you can say, listen trump's to so primaries if you runs, but we can't panic and run the high ground the second that happens or else This guy's gonna win the nomination again and lose for us again in the general election, jerry exactly at the grass roots of both parties gets a decided and new. They fuel rock obama on the left, the aggressors, fuel, donald trump. His fundraising machine is still amazing that the small dollar level that has not debated at all there needs to be leadership in a republican party to pull the party together and say the johnson's, why we can't have ten candidates, we can have a candy we can decide who the one or two people are. The can actually win this primary and get rid of donald trump, and you don't see that happening at all. The new newly elected share the republican parties clueless and has no We need to do that, and so

stead everyone's gonna jump in the pool and doll trumps gonna be happy about it once more candidates, not less it'll all chaos, he loves chaos and in that's how he becomes a republican nominee, gives there's a chaos scenario like that Jim Siena and Charlie sykes. Thank you. Both very much for coming on this morning will be watching the state of the union tonight with these. Thoughts in mind and coming up, while the president prodi As for his big speech on capital held tonight, one of our cs says we don't really know the state of the union for another. Twenty one months will explain what is at stake in the next present. central election plus former governor. Hutchinson is weighing potential bid for the white house and twenty twenty four arkansas Republican joins us straight ahead on morning, Joe we'll be right back. Hey its msnbc for mainly post of the package

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you, can listen about now, where every gigabyte guest I work romagna morning Joe and six. Forty three in washington, d, c or looking of course, who shot at the white house and bread is gonna, be delivering the state of the union and, let's break right now, former governor of arkansas republican asa hutchinson asap. governor congressmen and all these things you always get a zero. Yet I agnes gary's. What tat tell me if you are delivering the state of the union denied Would you be saying about the united states right now? What what is it? What is our state of the union? One is You say you Joe, and this is an incredible opportunity. I mean if your president timing is everything- and you know, there's a lot of interest with the chinese spy balloon.

The united states he's got an opera kennedy to provide some new information, so new insides. He has spoken to this dramatic layer directly, yet and so this is very, very important opportunity to address the you. China relations and it will be newsy it will be of great first in very important too. future of america, so I think it I was sitting on the edge and or seeds waiting for a discussion of that relationship. Most importantly, Don't I know some people are talking about you possibly rang for present the united states in them, but what you just just for a minute, if weaken you're here, even very good about following everybody ended the sort of the weeds on partisanship. I can straight and a lot of time on the show- and I did well donald trump was present. I did when morocco was present for that, and I am now

everybody's, so negative about america. Everybody gonna win, win one parties out of power there talking about how weak military is or how weak this is or how weak that is, and wandering don't we need, stop more and say our militaries incredible the men and women in an intelligence services. They aren't perfect, but you know what They keep us safe, our economy, is resilient, whether there's a Democrat and the white house, or republican at the white house or democratic this, hungary is still what ronald Reagan, sad city shining brightly on the hill for all the world to see? Even are worse times. Well america needs to be encouraged with a big spirit of optimism about our country? There, a lot of negativity out there and thus to me what a president should do is to bring out the best of america give america hope. That's what ronald Reagan did a saw. The

days ahead, anne and that is where america is- and you think about american leadership- and this is something worth fighting for in the republican party. America needs to continue to lead. We cannot step back, because then, who does lead the world you have others that want to step up, but they are not the right ones to lead a free world and so erica, has its place. We need to step up. We ve got the greatest military in the world we ve got. The greatest rule of law in the world and that's what distinguished for our democracy. So let's focus on some of those things and focus on solutions that we look at the world. I challenge you to be having have any border solution summit and tucson coming up, and the reason for this is: let's look at solutions and how you can bring people together, Can I seen the vastness of that problem at what we can do about it in a positive light. That's too is what america's about governor good, more

it's good to see you again, you're talking about issues you're talking about solutions to problems, and it seems for large heart. At least former president tromp and many other republicans are playing small ball talking about the past talking about an election in twenty twenty former president tweeting or whatever, to its social and yesterday about the pulitzer prize awards given to the washington post many years ago. Things like that and you ve said that he should be disqualified for being the nominee because of his actions around january sick. So, with all that in mind and with the stories we ve been talking about this morning, the club growth. Wanting a move on the coke network wanting to move on from donald trump, some evangelical groups now saying they want to do the same. What is that future in your eyes of the republican party. What should it look? like if it is a post, Donald trump party which, by the way it's not yet that's for sure, was it Remember that the american people still trust the republican party when it comes to handling the economy when it comes to handling national

security issues the big issues that they face. They still trust republicans philosophy and ideas and solutions, but we have got track that we need to make a course correction and that side tracked is because of dollar four and his revenge tour or wanting to get even out there with his latest person that offended hail, and so we do to talk about and get back our ideas and solutions. To me, that's emotion in fighting in the extreme minds is the message I could see but if I may say so, is solution oriented and knocked him think about the future of the country and wherever we have leaders like that, you're here bring in and you're gonna be bringing the republican party back to the balance. That aid is historically had so governor the Republican who, as the biggest stage tonight, to deliver that message is your successor. You were targeted.

The state house there in arkansas, but sarah, how could be centres from a private relative family course doll transformer press secretary will be. I bring the republican response, the state of the union tonight. What would you like her message to be and what challenges to the voters in your state fast or very proud of that, there are governor. governor sanders is delivering be response. The this is the first time in the history of arkansas, by the way that we ve gone from one republican. illustration mine to another report. Good administration, such a great success story, and I felt that tonight that focus a little bit on her story and the fao that day. She is the first female governor ever elected in arkansas, the fact that she has a story of family and that that she has so I expect her to be hard hitting on present and because of policy

actions that he has taken is the wrong way, but also. I hope that it is the point, If solutions, the republican party offers it's a great opportunity for her proud that she's will be conveying the message. I expect her to talk about the border. I would expect her to talk out: inflation, the prices of eggs, things that impact our families, former arkansas governor s hutchinson so is good to have you on. Thank you very much for being here like a big alright Still. I had a look at some of the stories making front page headlines across the country, including one government agency, benefiting from big tech, lay offs plus house, minority whip katharine clark joins us, but her guest for two nights. Data. The union designed to highlight democrats fight for reproductive rights, also joining us. This morning, Whitehouse press secretary, corinne jean Pierre, we'll be right back

Well then, the top of the hour. We have an update on a big story playing out in ohio, the release of toxic chemicals that have been carried A train that derailed over the weekend in the eastern part of the state officials, had warned that the chemical could be done way if inhaled the release of vinyl chloride, a toxic flammable gas used to produce vehicle interiors and pvc piping was completed. yesterday afternoon, following evacuations of these surrounding area, too, of the train. Cars were believed to be filled with vinyl chloride contained. a hundred and seventy seven thousand pounds of the chemical, the environment, Tax agency has been on to monitor the air and water in the affected area.

Initial observations from their national transportation safety board, which is leading the investigation into the derailment, include video and inspection evidence of a broken axel on one cars, no injuries have been reported will follow and coming up: whitehouse press secretaries past and present Jen saki and korean jean pierre join us ahead of tonight's state of the year. in address morning. Job will be right. Back, It's the you shot of new york city welcome back to morning Joe, it is tuesday february. Heaven, Johnson, the maire is still with us. In joining the conversation Joe workers ear in washington

Actually, she's in your former secretary is mixed up here, former whitehouse press secretary general. ok, now and MSNBC housed joins us from new york along with Joe willie, and me Joe. You know Micah you and I you and me we're going to be pretty good at this. Do it for a little while, it's all about it's all else, yeah really get in the cage couple couple more years, this we're going to get it down. As I read this vanity fair, I didn't know this happened. I guess you guys there follow the news marks in my business they don't really have to, but this came out yesterday and it The headline is then maloney Tromp was inexplicably the situation room for that. thousand. My nineteen, I isis raid told tromp to quote talk about the dog afterwards

and a new book set for release this week before acting secretary Christopher Miller, the x but administration of visual rights millennia was inexplicably in this situation. Room during. Rate- that killed then isis later also in the room vice mike pants secretary d. Secretary mark as spur and chairman of the, white sheaves mark milly and she just showed up just can and showed up and miller miller arise. I mean everybody was shocked that she was there and also shocked that you get this walk into the situation. Room casually sit down, and then she had some put at the end. It was maloney who came up with the idea about how to tell american people about the mission quote. You should talk about the dog. Everybody loves dogs,

I don't even know what to say: I'm am willie, I may we'll explain this forest while I'm not well I'm reading some of the quotes from Mr Miller, he says her presence was unexpected, to say the least. I wondered how would play in the press if we got out the first lady and popped into watch a major military operation, obviously a massive breach of of well security. for one thing etiquette On the other hand, the fact that it just speaks and no one would tell donald trump no and that it a strange and come on in malawi and well. I no one had the guts to stop and say no, this is inappropriate and against all rules that we had in place for Georgia is a mere ear. The expert on all things and white house said this has happened a good bit. Joe Biden go into the situation room when, when, like their role, in sensitive information or are targeting and isis later now I think she's touched to watch the

of all the issues and eagles fan and a situation, and perhaps but now, if this has not happened, it points to breakdowns insecurity clearance. It show we know that script clearance was a tall topic during the the trump. Why asked the trump jericho sharing maloney tromp you got. There is over the chief staffs objections at the time. It gets a breakdown in process. These again, we should note, though, like was right about the rolls conan oneida hero dog played in the eyes, and the thing is sure that she gets here. Don't think right did become a pretty big story from apple a day or so that's the one thing you get right, dear, yellow valueless early hour by looks to me like you- and I did a lot so she got that right. You got that right, minnesota hockey. What say you does this to? This happened a lot in in in in the white house when you around yeah, I'm not going to beat around the bush here, Joe I've never seen a first lady walk into this.

Situation room. I work for two presidents to amendment of our committee later now her I eat. I know what their security clearance is on, how that works, never seen a dog and the situation room either and is also. This is an this raid. I mean what on earth was the first lady doing there for the security clearance reasons, but also to talk about the dog or anything else? It's that's. That's bizarre to so. No It is not normal. I think it's important to restate that as much as possible around trump and never seen it happen to wait houses. I worked it. No, I'm all also not enter the world just kind weary where land and I could see how the chairman of the joint chiefs and the secretary of defence would look around and see What what is this? Is this a reality? How show what's going on your wife's come and talking about a dog that is very rich.

It was a willie, let's, let's transition here, a smooth transition and talk about the super bowl press like this week, I haven't had a chance to talk so far, but I gotta tell you this is this. Is one of the first super balls were I'm. I mean I look both the tapes. I grew up a kansas city chiefs fan. If one of those early super should you endorse and sit on the bench smoking a cigarette I'm at home. five years old dudes How can a cigarette and say I want to be like my hero land number? Sixteen, I think you know sixty but also what a great story, the philadelphia eagles are dead just there just at tough that mines, holler team, they do everything right an ice I found this amazing clip yesterday that they had all the people well saying people that we love and respected in the sports media, saying that

Helena hurts was a horrible pig for the philadelphia eagles. He wasn't a franchise quarterback. He would never take them to the championship. Why, person said why. Don't you just train three pigskin russell wilson forget this jail and herds thing. It's a total nightmare and we saw what she adds to the philadelphia eagles in the two or three games. He was out near the end of the season. He went to that. He went out when they were like fourteen and one they lost a couple again, something this is a great story and you, part of that Joe was, as you know, better than anybody in alabama the quarterback doesn't throw a tie. energy is not always featured. If you have a good running back right, It has been different, of course, he's going to get drafted high this year, but jalen hurts not. Everybody saw it coming out of college. He transferred Oklahoma, but boy has he been It is right in the middle, the Mvp conversation that share with the guys don't be across from him

come on sunday, night, Patrick Mahomet, so, yes, a great match up. I've giants fan so it's hard for me we get behind the story, but I do in the town where the city in the and are so invested in team, and that applies to both philadelphia and kansas it's really a toss up. I think the eagles right now are one and a half point favorite. So it should be a great game. Two great quarterbacks and Jonathan. Got two brothers travis kelsey on the cheap. it's jason kelsey on the eagles and by the way, we're going to have their mother on a couple of hours here who she is going to be rooting for on sunday, cats, terror, we'll be really bald if she voiced in pain, I know I said yeah. Actually I like one kid way more than the other. I'm rooting for the voting for the chiefs omega or she is thought to kelsey- will have her a little later in the show. The first time this has ever happened. The two brothers

if the opposing side deserves it more, that's possible last year when she was on air, and this should be a good game that put you right willy the point spread just hovered around one one and a half old time. It's two great quarterbacks facing two fierce past. Russia's that will be interesting. Both teams have a lot of really skill players as well. It's also the Andy reboot. Let read the coach of the chiefs, of course was a long time head coach of the eagle. So yet another sub plot and which should be, I think, a really competitive, good game. I just hate the civil war by weak. I wish having to wait two. for this game, is excruciating, but meagre it will be a fumbling can rally mom win. Then I was just getting hard is undeniable their mothers worst nightmare? Are women bluebell, louvre whims right to choose global action, the challenges, the ongoing democracy. When you sign up for msnbc daily news letter, your signing up to her

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