The law senators now stand remained standing and raise their right hand. Do you solemnly swear that, in all things, appertaining to the trial of the impeachment of Donald John from President of the United States? Now pending, you will do partial justice according to the constitution and laws so help me God That was the last time you were. Senators took the oath of Office and Donald Trump impeachment trial is anything different today, good winning and welcome to morning Joe, it is Tuesday February, ninth alone, Joe willing and may we have White House report, for the Associated Press, Jonathan, Le Maire and rod his chair in the american presidency at Vanderbilt University, his story

John matron joins us, he occasionally advises President Joe Biden today, Ganz they historic second impeachment trial of former President Donald Trump accused of incitement of insurrection for the January, sixteen How can the Eu S capital that left five people dead Trump as the only president to be pitched twice- and they only former president to face trial in the Senate has process resent Trump defence attorneys. Volstead. Add, though, two long tables allowing enough room for social distancing. The preceding is expected to begin at one p m senators, will need to pass a new organizing resolution after transitory David Chauvelin, withdrew his request to pause the trial at the end of the week for the Sabbath Sherman says his portion of the defence will be completed by then and that the people It is no longer needed after Adopt

the new rules. The trial will continue with four hours of debate on whether the tree itself is constitutional, the Senate Yours will then vote on whether to proceed, a measure that only needs a simple majority and is expected to pass easily opening arguments. Are spectator begin tomorrow, putting the trial on track for a possible verdict by early next week. Right now there are no scheduled witnesses. Many point out that Senate jurors themselves are already witnesses to what happened the day, because they were there. We are also told to expect some personal stories from impeachment managers who felt their lives or endanger on January six. So will this begins and incredible moment in history also, I think, a time when we get a sense of when our democracy came to the brink and- and we here

The personal side and perhaps see here the site Some sounds of that fateful day. No question about that. We the job of the impeachment managers when they begin making their arguments they want to take the same in that room and the american people, on television back to day on January six, and just remind them how crucial it is to hold the present accountable for what, and so on the other side of it. Let's see the defence by the former presidents defences yesterday, arguing that holding the president responsible for the deadly capital attack is nothing more than put political theatre by Democrats and that the Senate has no constitutional power tools, in judgment of a former president will come back to that point. The second in seventy eight page brief from Russia trumps lawyers said he did not quote direct anyone to commit unlawful actions, nor does he deserved blame for the conduct that what they call us A group of criminals who broke into the capital of course, killed a police officer, not so

as we all know from watching the Trump team asserted their clients claims about a stolen election delivered at a rally right before supporters began their deadly assault. They say those comments are protected by the first amendment. Trumps. Lawyers say that when their client told his supporters to quote fight like hell, he meant it in a quote. Figurative, said send that rioters attack the capital for their own reasons, citing a this credit in source claimed rioters, where Anti Trump forces and one point the brief chest as the house managers themselves. It reads on Jane Six two thousand twenty one riders entered the capital building in wrought, unprecedented havoc mayhem and death in a brazen attempt to further or a five violence. The house managers took several ages of their memorandum to restate over fifty sensationalize media reports detailing the if incidents and shocking violence of those hours on sport if arguing the constitution.

In provides and jurisdiction for the trial and that President trumps conduct was quote categorically unacceptable and merits eviction in disqualification from holding future office self. John there's a lot to go through in president trumps. Lawyers brief. Seventy eight pages where they re of the fraud and the falsehood about fraud in the election about a stolen election and try to completely absolve president tramp of any responsibility here. Just a guy talking and these protected by the first amendment. That's the way their argument goes, the big, I continues and, of course the flurry of lies continue. They talk about how justice. What a small group of criminals, but then they lay out fifty incidences of shocking shy. Attacks in, and rioting and mayhem

and this is going to be very easy for a lot of attorneys that are in the United States Senate, whether the Republicans are Durant, Democrats alike in their first year of of law classes again metallic about the but for test and and while that's for sure, also, certainly you can look at it on the criminal side as well. If you remove Donald Trump from this same, would any of this happened if it had been done, junior making that speech with the rights of that and now, if it works Rudy Julie already talking about combat justice. Would it have happened now he's an accessory, but those people there are, link Giuliani sides as people had been lied to four months, Donald Trump, actually years by Donald Trump talking about rigged actions and stolen elections. You started setting this up back in back in early spring talking about rigged elections and and and talking about all the other

things that the democratic wrong to try to do to try to steal the election and and and John Medium and in one of the great ironies guy whips people into a frenzy. Talking about a stolen election as he in the world, was Johnny. Is using this time to try this. An insurrection to steal and election himself. Watching these images again, I think it's gotta be pretty power, despite with all due respect prejudices lawyers, reading the basketball days the risk or self care. Sure some of the early nineteenth century stuff fort for something, and you know without being hyperbolic When you look back See.

Compromise. We missed the Missouri compromise. You see the nullification crisis in eighteen, thirty, three! You see that four miles of eighteen, fifty, which really only lasted about three years, because Kansas Nebraska broke, that up, as we were debating ups doctrine, decide about the the projection of and you see this not as an inevitable progression but points, on a graph that led us to a cataclysm and important using cataclysm but a cataclysm- and You know you can do that with the the assassination in Dallas. You can look at the fact that leads to you. And was jostled that they sped on lady Verge Johnson that the John Burst society was raised all these questions. You can see he stepped back from major events in american history, you can often see a chain of vets.

And to remove Donald Trump from the chain of events that led to the insurrection and terror attack on the capital is not conceivable and so it's one again. This is a little bit like the phone call. A year ago? It is in fact the case what the United States Senator is we're. Gonna have to do is conceived. The facts decide it doesn't matter and at a certain point when does something matter. If it, matter now, will it ever and if that's the case, then why go to the trouble to seek statewide, office to sit in this chamber it taken of. Is it simply to fulfil a poem personal political ambition or is there a higher constitutional obligation and get up. I'm not there

so I've that not it's easy for me to say, but I would urge the senators to think about what would they have done in the eighteen. Fifty what were they have done? A calming violence down in in the early sixties Johnny Unfortunately, you ve seen what they ve done time and again over the past four and a half years, people that you and I both know- people define themselves as conservatives, their entire life, behaving in a radical way, or at least empowering array like a later so the question now: this coming week, Jonathan Mayor, when you have witnesses I think, make a sad when you actually have members of the jury

also witness as member of the Senate, who were witnesses There soon heard the screams, who heard the yells, who understood. Their very lives could have been in danger, who certainly understood that man I was looking for my pants to lend champ. And to assassinate Nancy Policy, because they were try to stop the units Senate from doing its duty to yours indeed Joe, where the witnesses- and this is a senate- that has now, for, I would argue, for four and a half years heard President tromp undermine the faith institutions, undermine democracy and lay the seeds for what happened on January six. This didn't just happen and twenty twenty

again in his first campaign. This began throughout his presidency, where he would attack the very very pillars of our republic suggests. There is a deep state out to get him point the figures at bureaucrats and politicians alike, and we know from pulling among his supporters really undermine their faith in their very government. That is meant to protect them and say, guard our sacred institutions like an election. This has been in the works for a long time and that's the argument of Democrats. Of course, you're going to make their now really going to focus on the the sixth and data There are no need for witnesses not, but to be clear, we're we are seeing a lot of video over the next few days, organist Some extraordinary powerful images, many of which, of course, we have seen on television now, for nearly a month Is this understanding that is tragic, as the events of that day were five p

lost their lives in Korea, capital, police officer? It could have been so much worse people closer investigation into that attack. That siege say that without a little bit of luck, a little bit of heroism from some capital police officers, the body count could much higher than perhaps they could have found. Vice President pence, we're speaker, Pelosi were high profile members of Congress and we ve heard some of them, including Zenda Orchestra, Cortez, described in painful, horrifying detail. How scared they wore? How scared she was that something was about to happen. Yes, we believe this is a trial. Whose work is already a shirt. Perhaps they'll be a couple more Republicans who break for conviction then did present trumps last trial, or perhaps more than that, those five that voted against? Majority of Republicans. Then the organizing resolution a few weeks ago, not enough, seventeen. It seems highly.

Unlikely? But this is a matter of principle and history: that's the charge democratic set Democrat say and they want Republicans to go on record put name to it. This is your job. This is your sacred oath. If you believe the President Donald Trump did nothing wrong vote to quit, but then be prepared to live with your lot vote. The rest. Your life and make the first vote that will see today will be a procedural vote. This is the idea that a lotta republican centres have been trying to hide behind that. Perhaps this entire process is constitutional they'll get over that. They have another Democrats to fix that, but to under and something John meets. Him said the question the house managers will put to these senators is this is not impeach able, if being the law, lead cheerleader of a big lie that led to the riot, not just on the speech at the ellipse. On the day of January, but in the months and months that led up to it. If that conduct is not in peaceable, then what over the course of history- and

here too the future is or will be in peaceable wireless. Go to NBC News, correspondent, land, Caldwell standing by on Capital Hill land. There will be an argument that he's not in office anymore, and it's not constitution Why bother do this, but then you get back to the question that will we just put on the table the tension? Capitol hill must be really high, we'll make it absolutely right as far as the Trump Defence Teen Brief day are focusing most of it on process at this process. This impeachment is ill budget. And that it should happen because the president is no longer office. He was just using his first amendment right of free speech and the fact that he was given no due process, while there hasn't patriot manager,

they counter, especially that all those arguments, but on the due process component, it's very telling That's why they call last week, in a surprise, move for the present former president to come and testify at his own trial, which he refused- and so they are saying, we gave you a due process opportunity. And you decline so they're saying that argument is not a thing, far as capital, whose concern some of the things that I'm gonna be watching for today. Of course, this vote this afternoon constitutionality of try. The trial is going to be the big first test about for these Republicans when senator ran Paul force to that on this and other similar vote. A couple weeks ago, I heard a lot of grumbling from some Senate Republicans who are saying you don't want to take this vote in this way. This was not the time to do it. We don't want forced into it so quickly. Now there

two hours of debate from each side here from the trunk defence teen thing that it's not constitutional hearing from the Trump and people manager thing? It's absolutely constitutional, so they're gonna have an informed opinion today, and so, if that boat, talent, change is from a couple weeks ago that Would it be telling I'm gonna be watching the senators who have announced their retirement. Are they gonna break from the most of the people in their party and vote on this first test? on its constitutional or not. I so Jonathan or Mere there's a challenge this week, not just for trumps lawyers and also republican senators,. Try to decide what side of. Do they want to be on There is also, of course, challenge to Joe how does he balance the chaos of of this Trump impeachment, with with recovered relief bill that he's pushing to get through, and

How does he continue with a look like he's, maintaining the initiative to the spot, despite this terrible distraction on CAP Doyle? with no in the trial of his predecessor begins Current president, Joe By, is really gonna, be focusing on projecting the image of governing that he is still doing the people's business in dealing with this pandemic. By our Secretary General Saki was ass yesterday, if the current present, watching much in the way of the trial. She said no, but of course you catch quotas I wouldn't be his focus here. They could to lean on a he's no longer a senator. So therefore he doesn't need to participate, he's not voting himself and therefore is trying to move himself a little bit from the process today in the oven office his meeting with the Treasury, sectarian and engine we promoting again this covert relief bill, which he and his team have decided to large.

Go along with Democrats. If you like, they won't get much in the way of republican support. They dont want to be held to a smaller compromise bill. They want to go big as the week goes on. We expect him to head to the Pentagon to get to talk to members that have happened, that's his first visit there. We expect them to head the national suit of health meet with Doktor found she his focus is going to be on this point and even as the trial of President Trump, take centre stage we working behind the scenes. Talk the law makers on the house side in particular, but also testing neither the Senate can do two things at once: the trial and the relief bill and continue to move down the tracks. This massive package, the base the alike, is what is gonna, be so vital to their first hundred days. Privately Joe is a final thought here, fighting aids that this is what they want. They dont welcome this trial it, but they understand the necessity. They know the energy behind it. They know what Democrats want to pursue it

no white matters for history, so they will let that take centre stage, but continue to work on governing. On track, and we and for all of those reasons, Democrats in the Senate want this to be a quick trial as well as not just Republicans who want to get it over with, but scented Democrats want to quickly, as we saw in the timeline that they laid out looking for perhaps a vote in a verdict. As early early next week. So how is this the play out after today? Let's assume we get past well over whether or not the trial is constitutional. You get sixteen hours up to sixteen hours each for both sides argue and then to question witnesses. Do you think this really could be over by week from today. Perhaps it could be, especially now. There is a big indicator that the Trump Defence team no longer needs Saturday to celebrate this habit. David Jones is going to take that day off into sounds like there are just going to plough through really moving up this.

Actual most likely of this trial that Democrats in the Senate even are intent on giving the notion that there are still working on call the to relieve their holding a press conference. This morning with all the committee chairs on cocoa relief at ten thirty saying that day, this is what they are still focused on display This impeachment child going on. But let us be clear: most of the work on call them is being done in the House of representatives as we speak in those committees, they're the ones who are taking the lead in writing this legislation, and so the Senate doesn't at this time, have much to do on covert. So it's not going to fear too much, but what it does is it detracts from the messaging when they would rather be talking about providing relief to american families and Americans who have been suffering during this pandemic. Instead, there still talking about the former presidents

you rightly Caldwell, on Capitol Hill. Thank you so much. We greatly appreciate it each time I just love to get your perspective on which your way reading the right now studying the decades leading up to civil war and what strikes me parallels between that time and where we are right now, I'm cool is, if you have drawing any parallels between the whigs collapsing advantage because of slavery that now nothing's doing the same. The right, so the Republican Party between eighteen, fifty six and eight. Sixty a meteorite rise over them past four years? And then you look at this report can party that is you for a long time been a hundred and fifty huh sixty year do ugly something

ever and democracy to parties dominating for that long, and we just look at the last elections in Georgia. Republicans, of course, lost the urban Centre of Atlanta. They losses Suburbs of grain they're starting a lose some of the act. Serbs and any use this is a party that is going in the direction the midst Mcconnell Knows- leads them off a cliff. What pair What else do you draw between The histories lessons in the eighteen fifties and what we're going through right now what I think the the Whig Party cracked up for for many reasons, but chiefly because they could not find a consensus view on the central core. Of the age, which was the expansion? Really? The expansion of slavery. There were enough.

Who were willing, as Lincoln, was through the first inaugural through sixty to take, slavery where it was they, they hid under the constitutional, action of slavery and they tried to does the argument on on the extension. So that was an position but a cracked up because they couldn't find a coherent answer on a defining question of Hugh power and human identity. I would argue that the Republican Party of today is foundering is cracking up on there ability to find a coherent answer to a fundamental question with is globalization and its implications and the thing- Anyone creation of a multi, ethnic, pluralistic democracy and frank The rise of Donald Trump is, indication that a lot of people-

who are alive. Republican Party and who may be the Republican Party today simply are not ready. Grapple with the end. The predominantly why Amerika and I say that as a white guy The way you and I are- southern white men in things tend to work, for us in this country. What were called to do. By history and by faith is to make sure that the problems of the debt price of independence is in fact available to all and No single party has ever been entirely virtuous, had entirely able to do that, and I'm not saying that, but right now I think it's really deeply. Troubling is we need, We learn this and the seventy nine. These all the way through we need in this big country a healthy to party system and Harry Truman worried

Eighty years ago, seventy years ago that we were gonna, have a problem the liberals ended up in one party and all the conservatives in another because in the parties not play a filtering process. Polarization would become the norm and I argue that we are back to a place where polarization is the norm as we were in eighteen, fifty well and and John. I don't think we can over state this, actually that why on January, the six the greatest threat to american democracy from within since the eighteen fifty cents sure the start of the civil war in eighteen. Sixty wine and you have the Republican Party who is now many of its leaders, are now saying, let's just forget it, let's just turn the page

it's not hold those accountable, responsible, accountable- let's just and this ever happened- and I am speaking of Lindsey Gram- that is that is such a position, that a wig that, though, that wiggle Yours would have helped somebody would have taken in the eighteen. Fifty is that the issue of slavery, which is go. I well, is this every now this is not slavery. This is Actually, though, this is someone, a president trying to lead an insurrection against our constitutional republic, and you have party that split down the middle on whether they should actually answer that threat or whether they should just yet forget about it and move on the end and this is not to say that the Democratic Party in all its forms is not doesn't have a lot to answer for. Historically, it obviously does but the point four

and this moment is that Anybody seriously think that, if there were a secret ballot that Donald Trump not be barred from ever for office. Does that's a troop of a question? I actually wonder here because I think that lot of the republican senators and there are able to say this. They might say a privately realise that if Turkey, were to leave and take his folks you don't want another national election for a decade. Now look at the math right. If thirty thirty five percent of the Republican, already becomes a total Trump Party and their sort of this are, you know, we call it is it a Romney YO that would be good for America, but it would be terrible for the Republican Party does. Any

I think that when they vote as they pose, likely will to acquit this man there. It is a political calculation to avoid is political martyrdom and drive him from the Party there is political calculus over constitutional duty well and the planet. Calculus Willie Is- is its many catch. Twenty two Republicans for five years, and I now without knowing the specific that you can go back to two thousand seventeen and find us talking about the catch. Twenty two of the report- can body found themselves and they thought they needed tromp to win primary elections by that same support, would lead them to losing general elections. As we said yesterday, no body has been as much of a political weight on his party as Donald Trump, since Herbert Hoover, Donald Trump, lost the house in two thousand eighteen

the White House in two thousand twenty, he law the United States Senate and had to work really hard to lose the United States Senate for the Republican Party. You can even go back to thousand seventeen he he was responsible for Democrats winning in Republican Yes, I did this sir suburbs of Philly democratically, extraordinarily well in places like Virginia in state wide elections, just clean, sweet two thousand eighty All time record victory by Democrats, if by margin of votes in two thousand and eighteen in the congressional elections. Two thousand nineteen Democrat. Its winning, and that means Republicans losing the old confederacy in Louisiana in Kentucky? of course, twenty twenty. He loses the White House and the Senate. So these Republicans, because.

Other than the less Jamie. Been no, no people, those step forward and say LISA House. This is the direction we have to go and Adam Kensington. Republicans, for most Porter in the same position. They were end in two thousand seventeen, when Donald started this long for years, streak of political losses for the GEO p yeah you're at the back very Fargo back one month to the state of Georgia. When any Republican, there will tell you that Donald Trump huts them those two seats, but there's no way that they should have The two seats that then gave Democrats the majority that we're gonna see play out in the Senate over the next couple of weeks. But yes, there's no question but this is about fear of Donald Trump in fear of his voters. When you ask people publicly and privately Republicans, why there paving the way they are why they won't step out and criticise this man over the last four years why they won't even consider a vote to convict him on these the charge of an

nightmare of insurrection, its clear as day they dont want to cross voters it's the same reason why they won't give a fourth and criticism of the freshmen congresswoman from Georgia, they're afraid that her voters are Donald Trump voters and they don't want to alienate those people who they believe they need, continued a win elections and to keep power and will this this week will see it today in that vote about whether or not this is constitutional Mika. They want to get this vote about the constitutionality of the process of impeachment, because They don't actually want to go and have to put their name. In saying I vote to acquit, despite we think we just heard for the last week in everything we will hear from the impeachment managers and everything we ve seen on his twitter feed and everything we watched on television, that speech we saw January six where he sent people to the capital. Despite all of that, I vote to acquit that's what a group of Republic, Senators are probably going to do next week

I still have a morning Joe New Corona virus concerns after masculine superbowl celebrations in Florida, but the mayor of hamper is saying about video like this one and wage, especially bad agenda, set of Florida right now, plus Georgia's secretaries State launches a new investigation into former president trumps efforts to overturn the tour twenty election results in the state and congressmen came Jeffreys, who served as a democratic prosecutor during trumps. First impeachment trial our guests you're watching morning, Joe we'll be right back its embassy embassies, haze brown. You know stage- did just so much news to wrap your head around is challenging to get it

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New York City, middle schools will open this month after being closed. Since November officials announced yesterday, the plan will allow sixty two thousand students who opted for in person learning last year to return for at least part of the week, beginning on February. Twenties It will be the first time since November that students and grades sixth eight and the nations largest public school system will be able to attend class in person roughly, seventy percent of the students have opted out of in person classes altogether. Choosing to learn from home through the rest of the year no plan to reopen the city's high schools has been announced. This is just brutal learning and brutal for parents. Well, I

there is no question about a New York City, is a snapshot of what's happening across the country and, as you said, a lot of parents at this point in the school year. After the last year, saying we're just gonna finish the year at home, remote and hope for the best come September down in Temper Florida. The effort there do and here to CDC Corona virus guidelines took ahead, as we saw a lot of video of mostly mass fan celebrating the Superbowl win for the Tenth Bay buccaneers. A couple: a night's about Tampa Mary, Jane, CASTOR, sat around two hundred thousand masks were handed out ahead of the game and that a majority of people in Mrs followed the rules. She did, however, express our concern with some fan. Saying quote it's a little, frustrating because we worked so hard at this point in dealing with covert nineteen. There is a level of frustration when you see that White House Press Secretary General Saki weight in on the matter as well. Yesterday, saying quote: we are concerned about the celebration scenes coming out of Florida. This as USA Today report

Florida on Sunday became the first state to report two hundred cases of Rona virus variants Mika. He That, of course, is a concern. Obviously Florida remains a hot spot. Marion looks like it could spread very quickly. Round this state and meagre vaccinations continue to go at an unbelievably slow rate, yeah another vaccine processes is painfully slow mean there are people who are in categories who you know our definitely apply for it right now. My mother people age of seventy who cannot get it. And then you see video kids squash together screaming at each other Probably drinking I mean this is just a nightmare were not as a covert nightmare. New talk about your mother, there's somebody

Eighty nine who, as Parkinson s you can't get a vaccine, has been able to get a vaccine, and we know a lot of people who are in their mid delayed. Seventies. Eighties underlying conditions in Florida can't get there vaccines either. Seriously how hard Has this been, I know the Rhine dissenters, his stumbling around over the past year zones had some real problems. Specially is its pertain to vaccines, but I don't think anybody would have expected him to follow it up is bad as the gas coming up. Our next gas says that in this latest impeachment trial stakes hi, not only for Trump, but also for almost everybody else, the USA. Today's Susan page, join us next were back in a moment.

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forty four pass be our lives. Look at Washington DC ass. The sun starts to come lug this morning join is now MSNBC contributor, MIKE Barnacle and Washington Bureau chief for USA. Today, Susan Page and Susan you're late basis entitled on impeachment stakes are high, not only for Trump. For almost everybody else, and you talk about republican congressmen, Charlie Dante's said if the impeachment vote were held secret in this sort of Secret ballot, eighty to ninety senators would vote to convict Trump that this impeachment trial, really will set a precedent in many ways explained yes, of course, the fact that it's not a secret vote and the fact that you we don't expect more than a handful of republican senators to vote to convict present for her President Trump tells you everything you need to know about the dilemma that Republic,

his face now. The way they have been plunged into a worsening worsening civil war because of this impeachment trial You know we don't think the outcome of this impeachment trial is in much death, but that doesn't mean the consequences are considerably accessible set a standard about, can residents be held responsible for their behavior? What behaviour is acceptable? What kind Congress. Do what does the separation of powers tells about what Congress could do the hold a president accountable for his actions? Even after he's out of power, those are among the questions were gonna, see, resolved and addressed over them, week, or so you know my God, forgive me for being so naive, but these senators they did taken out. And it wasn't enough to turn a blind eye to an insurrection. It wasn't an oath to turn a blind eye to a demagogic that real up

proud and get them to invade the United States capital. They took an oath to protect us all. Joe, the oath is pretty familiar to a lot of people and it certainly ought to be familiar to every United States. Senator was to protect and defend the constitution of the United States against all these all enemies, far and domestic and they have dropped their duty. Frankly, a lot of the Republicans have just drop their duty and its in conflict sensible, really because they all participants, they were active participants and and and really targets of what happened that day and that a minimum you'd think that they would have to sit there and wonder you know. Well, ok what did president do, and when did he do it? What we know about speech on the morning of January six, but what we haven't

focused on I dont think nearly enough is what he did wants the chaos in the rioting than the insurrectionists invaded the capital ensued. What they do. Then he did nothing he didn't. Thing for hours on end. He watched tv revelled in chaos and the violence and the death, so if the sentences grass the meaning of the rose? After all of this, then I don't know where we are as a constitutional republic really seriously, Susan, you mention the vote, the eighty to ninety votes that there may be if this were a secret ballot. That is, we ve heard that before and as incredibly frustrating for a lot of people to hear for normal Americans who are not cynical creatures of Washington who may have a moral compass, for example, to say, yeah if nobody knew I was doing it. I was the right thing in this case. So what did they say as reasons as you talk to people we just talked about a little while ago. Is it just a plain?

here of Donald Trump and his voters is a fear of former president trumpet his voters to recognition of the way the Republican Party has been remade in trumps over the past five years. This is now that the Trump Party, as much as it is the Republican Party and here's a question moving forward. You heard at John with major talking about the history of the whigs is a party today that includes cannot party taking include both Liz Cheney and Marjorie Taylor Green, and that is a big question. For the first time during the decades I'm uncovered national politics. There is a serious debate going on in the Republican Party about splintering into a third

already. That is a hard thing to do. That's why it almost never happens hasn't happened in more than a century. It is possible that we will see that happening today because of trumps continued influence in the party, and you know, even if trumped disappeared, his voters continue to make a big, really significant portion of that coalition will end and when he's not on the ballot, Jonathan Mere they may just stay home. And we have seen that before joe- and this is certainly be remarkable. Tests of the president's former presidents continued hold on his party. We know we think we know the verdict, it's coming outcome of this trial, but then what next and Susan? That's why I wanted to get you the way and the President try has been encouraging silent, these last cup away

if he has for once, listen to his advisers and two amid told to keep a low profile he's off twitter. Of course, he's put out. The cup public statements he's mostly data Marla now he's golfing recognises that there is no good coming out of him talking right now All we can do if he were to speak, will perhaps upset a republican voter. Centre right now is inclined to acquit. But where do you want if a guy, this trial ends, as we think and next week or two. What will trump do then try to return to the stage and what sort of reaction do think. Some of these republican senators and lawmakers laugh Jim. What do you think? That's really struck me since president trumpet left the White House is how we his interest in him has gone down. If you, if you being a peach, would we be paying very much attention to these days? It lower traditionally happens to president once they leave the wider, and also there's one thing you said the President tramp were present purpose made. It is

Should it be silenced, I'm not sure. I think that twitter decision silence ten in a way he has had trouble figure out how to around when this trial is over. We pay much attention to him. I'm not sure that we will Susan page, thank you very, very much, that's a good question, and still I had new evidence in the house investigation into the Trump administrations handling of a virus, including a new documents showing alleged political interference we'll be right back.