Without an exaggeration, by we ve seen watch and vicinity. We can complete. Russia is worse than isis in these. the scale, and First nests of the crimes committed, we will be delayed all the evidence we will be working Was all international institutions relevant to meet the brink, to identify and bring those responsible for these crimes to account international outrage and discussed. The kremlin is now accused of massacring civilians, as russian forces retreated from the suburbs of ukraine's capital. Images, of bodies in shallow graves and strewn throughout the city. Evidence of torture and killings at close range war crimes Moscow

claims. It was all staged. Ukraine's president calls it genocide this morning, reaction from around the globe, as we debut are not an hour. We'll talk to ukraine's chief prosecutor, who says our team has identified hundreds of suspects and is pursuing thousands a war crime cases against russia what this means for Vladimir Putin and what has retreat from heave says about the future of the war plus the latest headlines from washington, the chair, the Senate judiciary committee joins us ahead of a big day for president Biden supreme court nominee. President obama is set to return to the white house this this weekend. Donald trump behind a political has been hoping to. a return to politics good morning and welcome to morning Joe, it is Monday April. Fourth, flew growers. Have you with us greatly? Really, you certainly are posed herbaline. This is obviously this is what,

The world was talking about yesterday when you, when you think that it can get worse. The mass mass crimes by vladimir, now the russian troops we see, obviously account near the front pages of almost every international newspaper showed dead bodies, shallow graves mass graves, horrific images coming out of what russian forces left behind at the pulling back from the ukrainian capital of keys. We should warn you this morning. The images really are disturbing in quite graphic pictures and videos from the town, a boot north west of key show. Why, spread devastation with dozens of bodies lying scattered around the city. Somebody victims had their hands tied behind their backs. Others reportedly had close range gunshot wounds and signs of torture resident, say russians would go from building the building, take people from the basements where they were hiding, checked their phones for evidence of anti russian activity before taking them away or just shooting them on the spot. There's a lesson,

the people there had to say those people we're just walking and their shut down without any reason bank in the ex neighborhoods to conquer it was even worse. They watch without asking any questions, he went to get some food when all of a sudden the russian started, shooting they hit him a bit about the house crushing the bone and he fell down. The shooter shouted dont screen or I will shoot and they turned away. Then they shot of his left leg completely. Then they shot him all over the chest. Gosh you! any and present will on is calling the situation and boucher genocide describing in it as scenes from a horrible, be. According to the cities mayor about two hundred and seventy local residents were buried in to mass graves. At least forty dead bodies were left in the streets, ukraine. firstly say more than four hundred bodies have been found in kiev and surrounding areas in guys, international independent reporters just now getting into the city of boots, including NBC news, to take a look

What's there, they say they have no way of knowing at even how many people were killed there, but it does go back to a couple weeks ago. Remember the peoples, and while I dont know, if we want to use the term war crimes and present Biden, call him a butcher right. What more do you need to see how these about here- and you know this is really what we can say- that we can talk about vladimir, but this is what russia does. This is what russian soldiers do. This is what they are doing. Ukraine. This is what they did in. The lap of this is what they, what they did in grozny. This is what they did in poland. This in world war two this is what they do and and it ghastly and before we go any further here. We're gonna be getting declare what's the big board in a second about where this is going. I just say this: correctly, this is going to be remembered and and they're gonna meet people held accountable historically, the huge story. That overlays is is a humiliating and historic. Retreat

of russian troops from the capital, which was, of course, pollutants? top priority? It's incredible how, Ukraine has round them and as they move back, you can only say thank god. There is effective as they were, because how much worse. Could this story have van That is, if you just look at the battlefield, nothing short of of of of shocking. Why? Markham the ukrainian troops have done Jonathan wellmere This is obviously pushing vladimir putin closer to a settlement, we're still a long way away from there. If you read out, get some redoubts for what happened. Saturday, you actually had ukrainians talking about the possibility of peace talks, adam but then sunday we wake up horrific news. You wrote how much more difficult. This is gonna, make it for that

community to come to terms not only with peace, but is vladimir of as as binding set with one I potent being a butcher being a war criminal. How exactly do you get this? Guy back into the g, seven g, eight yeah that the there had been some talk of even some momentum towards this Alinsky putin summit. There had been enough progress made. Both sides said they weren't there, yet russia, ukraine, they thought that was in the offering that now probably has changed and I will be that much more difficult while officials, I've talked to say wonder if how could zelensky agree to any sort of negotiate to end this war, even though it would end the fighting if it meant giving up an inch of

tori divine report and, in the wake of these workers being found exerting amount of ukrainian blood being shed. How can you make that deal on this with the west is grappling with? Now is well what auspicious believe that there's no oars reached sort of an infection point there were certainly does look like russian forces are moving away from cave, leaving these war crimes in their wake and focusing on the dawn boss region, where there is still going to be seemingly months potentially and maybe even a year via you know, that's their fear of this good will. It is extraordinary rita. We you ve been knocking. Of course. U S, government and war and intel community for four years, Of course. That, of course, is the champion of the inn community. I know they make mistakes because its complex world out there, It's remarkable in this case what our intel community has done, and I say that only because go soggy somebody, the white house, high up in the white house who said yeah Putin knows he finally nosey screwed up, and this

this retreat their bare they're gonna retreat like there, a retreat. Now from cave try going north and focus on the dunbar's, and here we five days later it actually actually cemented. That's what they're doing it's really remarkable. Are intel. Community has been time and time getting infringed, I'd like to say the: u s is right, but even the french are saying we were wrong. Well, the: u S, intel community has been right every step of the way. Here's just another example and there's a reason. President Biden was as insisting a month and a half ago that this was what was going to happen. Instead, they said trust us he is on the brink. An invasion is imminent. Michael's thought that language may have gone too far, but he was right about that and we should point out that russia, fallen back to the tried and true explanation for or seeing in bhutto, but which is a false flag operation that these are crisis actors pathetic conspiracy to you, like sandy hook, we really isn't parallels actually between what what what

though the most contemptible human beings and in american politics do and one vladimir putin does on the global scale were were actually I'm. Not the killing of people, they use the same techniques in just four political aims: political, the united states, they use the same contemptible techniques and I think about all the people. With news with on sub stack, I think of all the people who have spent the past five years, apologizing for Vladimir Putin, whether its donald trump, who who said on this show in december of of of twenty fifteen, I've got no problem with Vladimir putin he's a strong leader, unlike Barack obama, and continues continues aside. He can't walk back what he said about this guy. There are other news, entertainers can't walk back what they have said. This guy. What they ve set about russia. There are voices in the republican party who can't walk that back. It's really really is shocking. the useful idiots lattimer vladimir Putin has had the useful

its he had, even after the invasion when they started pushing the propaganda talking about the buyer labs there so desperate to defend vladimir Putin. These people who live in our country live under the protection of our constitution, who brace Putin who brace or mine who embrace ill liberalism who embraces the lie after itself, verify. This is such a clarifying moment, and I know that americans are seeing this. They gonna wait a second. on a smaller level. We were just talking politics in america. This is this. what putin supporters are trying to do. American politics: there is a prominent primetime hosts and another network who said he was rooting for russia in the early stages of this war and you're right, and then certainly some celebrations on the right for Orban, claiming victory. Yesterday, in the elections in in hungary back to the? U S, intel adjusting the one thing they got wrong, though, was the idea that they thought that russia might take

the key isn't going to matter of days and weeks, and that is now the dilemma they're in as they are having to funnel and more and more weapons and equipment to ukraine, because it has turned into this much longer conflict actually celebrating the successes of the ukrainian resistance they have put up. Far fiercer fighting to anyone could have expected, but that is now. The pressure point is that the ukraine and officials, and so let's get military officials, and so, let's give selves it we're running out of weapons. We need anti missile media to aircraft missiles. We need stingers and their open, forgetting jets as well to soviet era, equipment and needed to help this war fight and there aid, where we only gets the? U s is still not signed off. On the john did the polish make the mixture? Poland have not happened yet some soviet era tanks, or in discussions now to potentially sent that way, so they put they recognize. This is the moment where there the russian forces have pull back and there's a little What they can do right now is the muddy season has said it was just saying so, there's a moment here where the they

to be supplied in craze before russia can recoup and begin their offensive well as Shall I thought this would be quick and they'd be well and to keep right now, a court to a new york times report. Russia's pull back from cave appear. to be real officials and analyse, say the rich may show signs that Moscow, a national strategy, has stalled in the face of grave planning, failures, logistical problems and cranium resistance, the new analysis comes after pentagon, and nato officials had initially raise doubts about the russian withdrawal, arguing that it could be just repositioning of forces or chance to refit and recent live sloppy repossessed. Oh you're reverses to me away from ukrainian attacks joining us. Now, retired. U s army general staff twitty. He served multiple combat tours in iraq and afghanistan and prior to his retirement and twenty twenty was deputy combined,

of the united states, the european command and at the big board national security, analyse for NBC news and emma can be seen. Clint watts Clinton will start with you. Where are the russians right now, make a remarkable remarkable turn around the last three weeks. When we look here it all read two weeks ago. What do we see now? We see lots of light blue light, blue being where the ukrainians have conducted counter offensive and taken back territory, start in and around Keith this is what we're talking about this morning in the sun. Herbs. Here when you look out to the north, This is where we're finding evidence of war crimes in around Boca some of these territories, essentially what the ukrainians were able to do. Ten days ago, we were talking about marguerite. That's it somewhere about in this area. They were able to launch a centrally a counter attack and that after these russian troops here exposed essential

they could have been cut off and which are finding now your hearing, the story of lost russian units are individual soldiers centrally left in the suburbs. Right here find nothing. Ukrainian military separately What I want to say is: when you watch the russian withdraw imagined In order to organise one would be three or four units to continue to fight ford like this, and one would retreat they're not even successfully pulling this all this tire unit here remember, this is the conway that was stuck and weak one in two days. The disaster on the battlefield there being chewed up by the ukrainian military and we're having the same thing happening here out to these. providing were essentially craning counter. Attacks are pushing through russian armor train to screech back to the border, essentially the safe harbour when you pull it back, to the bigger picture. This is what we're talking about today over you in a round Keith troops moving back up to belarus, essentially to be reposition down here and in hard this eastern, fraught now in the

So far I hear ism was a key battle that we are watching over the weekend, the the since claimed that they have taken the theory of easy and their goal essentially is to link up these forces here in the east. Once they have that north north western access and this one in the southeast linked up they'll be able to unify their forces around this broader area which is known as the dome here remit Vladimir Putin said in the very beginning his reason for going in which was essentially alive, lie. It was to take this area here in the east. we also see is the russians since, digging into these positions down here in the south, rather than try and take places like Mika, laid there again meeting resistance, and so setting up defensive positions, marry you, is where watching the humanitarian disaster in the court or that they're trying to establish. But my big picture, I think, take ways you will find the the ukrainians will continue to put take places up in the north. I would not surprise that we are taking a book and war crimes today there might

a half dozen booker's within the next two weeks that we discover and separately between hark even ism is really where the battle is. I think the question for the ukrainian military is can Continue the fight continue the counter offensive and push To back. The last thing I would add, is there's lots what's a russian soldiers deserving refusing to fight I am. I would be shocked if these units, here that fought in and around keep so poorly when The position dismantled and put in other units are going to be really motivated to fight against the ukrainian military, that is on the upswing. So I'm not even convinced that vladimir putin, you know his strategy has gone from. Do I want to lose everywhere or do I want to want to win somewhere essentially in the east? I'm not sure he can even pull this off at this point chilling to think there may be more butchers out there right now, so general twitty it really. If you look at that map extraordinary to watch the incompetence and the failures of the russian army, when you think that they had to pull out of chernobyl because their troops were digging trenches in the

exclusion zone and be exposed to radiation. Didn't know somehow that that might happen, but a military analysed. You look at that map. You look at that. Aspiration. You look at the war crimes, the murder of civilians, on the retreat. What should we expect? here from the russian military yes, what I'll tell you what happened to the butcher is inexcusable seasonable sees me, you take a look. What russia has done you could tell that faces in the unprofessional military. Were the EU leaders on the ground that are enforcing standards were see overall command and control sit next to me, forcing standards here, the rule of law, the rows of conflict himself. Why? It does not exist, and so, when you, how soldiers than on train we how soldiers with low morale these two

things happen and that's what we're going to probably continue to see throughout swore. I will tell the next couple of weeks will be crucial, We crucible and assess further russians grad president we he said that he wants to have a victory. I may timeframe. pretty ambitiously, look at all places he needs to fight in the east. They get that victory, ass, the niece, down in the dawn abbas down Completion? A miracle He also wants to sow, which would mean that he would happen. A miracle all away, Two kirsten all away through our gas, so pretty on this basis. Will you take a look at the ukrainians they have done a fabulous job defeating the Russia's, however,

hard fighting in view as now and yet the russians are used to finance down boss. They have a russian separatist, their lack groups down their other separatist, sir now there so I they're gonna experienced by a hard fight it the critical for the west, the totally behind Lastly, in given every baby needs to fight, This war is winnable by the ukrainians. We just need to ensure that we we sources to complete and defeat the russians More generally, the question I was going to ask you if you're in someone's keys position, you're looking at the russians in retreat in the north. Get em, I'm trying to consolidate in the southeast if you're zelensky right now, you get on the phone with Joe by what you tell the president, what you tell members of nato that you speak, I think need that extra, the russians just don't bleed out, but that they are pushed out of of ukraine.

I will mention a couple of points number one if you notice he's doin that different countries ask him mother mayor it shouldn't be any ask at this point. Just turn almost take it. You ve the things that we need less impressed. These soviet era tanks and keep those tanks pusher? the reason why so important as these the assets which me that he's gonna expand material. Weapons systems faster ban on office, so he can back every couple of weeks and ass. That's just turn on speak. It from the west was given thanks, I would even say less you'll learn the makes that he needs carson mix, will get it done from the air and all. These are more secure. Seen from the russian soil, it be banks, or would it be trucks he could get it done Drugs can help those drownded we're coming here. That makes indeed

serious damage for the: u s: army, general staff. Twenty! Thank you very, very so much. We appreciate your being here. More importantly, we're so grateful for your service to america. They ve got to figure out a way to get the jets there they they it doesn't have to be through a nato base, gotta figure when you get those jets there get those tanks there now to be able to do it. It seems That's what they're asking for it seems like at this point the ukrainians, her our bear knuckles add and doing everything they can to, but they need they needed and again when I say they are not talking about the white house, I'm not talking about I'm talking about everybody collectively hole in the whole. The polls want to do it. It seems to me there have got to be some smart people out there that can figure out how to get them to mix they need how to get them the tanks they need. Russia's on the run, the experts.

she's, rocked the ukrainian port city of odessa as russian missiles hit oil refinery and three fuel storage facilities that cities mayor says? Civilian buildings were also hidden the attack, but there were no immediate casualties report at the key port city has been mostly spared from attack so far, but has long been considered a target for the russians because of its economic significance. So so, quite let's go back to board the board. It seems to me if you're, Vladimir Putin, you think things go well around cave so let's go south. The problem, of course, is whatever they get in the south. To be able to hold. Maybe the dunbar's yeah, that land bridge that they're trying to get to cry me and which I am most have o see, aren't, aren't they will in the same position where, can destroy lot of buildings. They can commit war crimes by my god. The this second they try to set up shop in any of these cities seems to me

The ukrainians are going to start pushing back just like they have time and again, that's right jewel in the ukrainians will be able to recourse to some. You know The missile strikes that we were just talking about their odessa down here in the southwest because city, why? Well that's what oil? That's regretting that the future of the economy of ukraine, but really what we ve also seen the ukrainian start to do in a very daring action last week, we start to hit russian oil across the russian border, essentially taken the fight. This is also a sign of long logistical lines innocent, an extended and maybe protracted battle. This is not going to go quickly in the east. I think that's the thing that we need to focus on were seen. Craniums push back, but there are still in a very dismounted defensive mode. Pushing back incrementally there we're going to start pushing forces out towards heart, and this is where you see this element right here. There are ukrainian military elements, but they could get sealed in these pockets so

the ukrainians will mean to do very quickly start to reinforce out here towards the east. How do you do that that things like air cover being able to reject with some air power to actually go at these. The positions. I think the other thing to look at How does this escalate if the ukraine is really so to push in and around in over the russian border? The russian government sent out warning to the russian people all along this area here over the weekend, saint be prepare for strikes, be prepared. attacks are essentially prime in their own population? Could they realize their instead jam? Ultimately, it's about the will to fight. I am, I am not commence. You have reports of reposition washing units coming in for It's area right here that are refusing to fight. You have reports of commanders committing suicide commanders being killed in the russian military high death, in terms of russian generals, and now the russians are relying on mercenaries. P we enforced in from syria foreseen by Hezbollah. If the

Russian army can't get their own people to sustain this fight and ukrainians are inspiring more of their people to fight this battle. Not only does it get protracted goes on a long time, but I dont know how the russians, when it can even take anything away in the last part, Joe that you mentioned. This is that land bridge down here they have not even been able to secure mariupol. After tire month. Essentially, the siege warfare- and this is very thin strip? We have also seen the ukrainians centrally launching a lobby missiles Danielle towards those naval ports in the sea of as off, so with all of this big picture. I'm not sure what Putin's That strategy will be he's. Gonna wanna claimed east, but that could be weeks or months, and so I think we want peace between a clear, just a quick. Let me just express some real soon Susan. They are about these russian reinforcements. Is there a sense of the mercenaries? How many have come from syria other places and whatever happened of the troops from Belarus that were supposed to join the fight. I think the consistent thing Jonathan is no one wants this fight. The russia

people don't want at the russian military, doesn't want it we're talking to a thousand two thousand, maybe three thousand mercenaries. That's not gonna tip the balance here. In terms of this battle there, also not always equipped with an arm of the most sophisticated weapons you're talking about dismounted forces, chechen units intrude operate in an killed are doing some of the shock work here and Mary opel, these. Forces are not going to come in here and fight the way the russians really want them to their, not well trained that are now well equipped, and they don't really want to be here. They're doing it basically for money that compete that's the motivation, the ukrainians, it's a totally different story. I can watch. Thank you so much and will, if it were a map of operation, that'd be one thing if you're from Syria what far from syria side invaders How can we go well, I'm the same way with these other countries that are talking about chechnya and coming up. They ve seen what ukrainians due to outside, or they ve seen what ukrainian studio russians they're, not gonna want

and of that going into a strange land, a strange environment, a strange habitat we will work with. now. Maybe re me, the greatest guerrilla warfare operation. We ve seen against a major army. This side of the north sea I am against united, say, there's a reason. Putin's regular allies have not rushed into ukraine. Aside from this ragtag group of syrian resistance fighters, who are expected to make much of a dent here, they're watching happened, a razor and about the hey watch out now. Here,

comes the belarussian fairylike, ok, nokia, brougham on the ukrainians, who say exactly let's go to ukraine. Nbc news correspond to molly hunter is in le vive in the western part of the country. Last week, molly was reporting from odessa. We just told you about a minute ago: molly get more. You ve traveled so widely within ukraine over the last month or so I'll. Let you speak that what we ve been talking about this morning, but tickly about odessa where you just returned from, and these strikes we saw in the port facilities there and the oil facilities and reports that there were some civilians around there as well. yeah? Well, I get money, and none of that was a surprise as we can. So we are our debts last week and since the first days of the where we know that our destiny, but I'm pollutants, wishlist you her presence, lansky warning about it in the first week

if the war, but we went to the city, we talked about the navy there. Of course, we talked to civilians, the estimated about half the city has left the other half the city is kind of digging in and ready to fight. The entire city looks very different than levine, for example, sandbags, military blockades everywhere military checkpoints at every intersection. The navy has, according to them mind a lot of the city's white sand beaches and they tell us- and we couldn't see these on the day- that we were at the beach. They tell us the russian warships in the black sea that they have blockaded, We are coming in and out on a daily basis, just as civilians and the navy can see that they are still there. But we talked to one of the highest ranking naval officers there and he said what they're really watching for is for those russian warships that are in the sea of azov that are focused on mary opal ingredients over there start to move- black sea, that is when they will start you kind of change their picture in odessa, but they are ready. They ve been ready for the last month and it's interesting because they are watching Mary Opel incredibly carefully until the russians have kind of finished with Mary opel. This sense.

I dare say is that the only attacks will be kind of these errant air strikes on fuel depots, on strategic kind of infrastructure items around the city, the centre of odessa, the fame to browse the historic centre of that city, which is very near you know to russian hearts as well as ukrainian ones has not been head. I do I do this one. I kind of turn attention a little bit too bushes. Well, can you guys been talking so much about it? We ve just been doing an interview with a couple of people who left boucher or just in the middle of the interview we ve got kind of through the first two weeks of the word: we're waiting care for them about the second two weeks, the war they lost electricity, they lost water, they lost power within three days. That's a lot sooner than even mary. Opel lost those facilities, so we are waiting to hear a kind of from them more russian soldiers moved into very. Are they could see tanks rolling in two days after the war they set the air strikes and for constant, not every hour, not every fifteen minutes, but just a constant studying they were able to get out of this second week of march. They were the lucky ones. They had cars with full tanks of fuel, but they still have friends there. They shall have neighbours who are still in boucher. Now. I think that you make points that we show that we are getting from both people there. We're talking to and then be survivors is that we don't have the death toll,

I have no idea, we've heard from the mayor about the mass graves, but we do not know the death toll and the second is. There are a lot more bushes that, if this is what we can see that the russians have done in the suburbs of kiev, what are they doing in mariupol, where we are not physically there just yet? So we may just be the beginning: excellent reporting from the ground and masseuse molly hunter from movie this morty molly thanks. So much thank you and now you're beginning to show when Jonathan through do us. Willie's at this was a historic day for the show it certainly, as you were you're in on a monday yeah. That is history. That is an order and one that we think you were looking. I think the post is going to write something I think. Surely they have and it'll be on the online. It is just huge okay, so I'd say it's very special day. Monday is usually one day they, let me out of the asylum, but I am here again monday for a social occasion morning. Joe goes

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those two stand by themselves. Now I know for sure he is. The record speaks for itself, I'm one of the duke haters out there, but no coach, Kate, legendary. Yes, it's wouldn't it is jet ski, even Bobby. Nine. Others are a step below where he is and it is it's a great run, a painful and he loses to north carolina in his last regular season home game. He loses north carolina, his last game, depriving a chance a national title, but that was a terrific game on Saturday I did not relate staying up for the whole thing. Did you couldn't look away? It was a great great game and sets up a terrific files. Tonight, u n seek seems to have a lot of momentum right now. The magic going, but can scans number one, and I speaking of great coaches bill self to do. Do you guys know the history I was I was actually. I was watching the Kansas game. and I dont know why but watch in kansas, win for years. Kansas is just great, but I asked self, and I'm alone on twitter about five seconds after I asked a question, but how school for manhattan, Kansas, that's care the state

or else can largely on large scale, see I need five. Second answer has not been held out from from lords kansas. How did how did a team from Kansas be more general about it to become so dominant in basketball. Well, they have been a long time. It has every intention of indiana fog, Alan though they were there, sir, the inception of of basketball, so they ve been at it for a very long time and they that great which is bill self, as a greatcoat. Roy Williams, who posted north carolina was there before that, so they ve therein that echelon of the carolina do Kansas Kentucky. Although schools that are gonna get a shot at the best players in high school every year and make a right that title: every year you haven't you achieve a certain status and there's a there's momentum and inertia, and a good way to like you, the best players wanna come to see you in speaking of grey

the programs. Numerous account can't hit women's team, they did fall short last night, but another remarkable run, congrats to south carolina, aliyah boston, player of the year shaw south carolina just wire to wire number one to start. The season number one all season closed the deal last night against a team in Kentucky that had been under gino orientalists incredible, been to eleven national change of games and never lost one. Now they were eleven and no national, duke I was ever high and they lost last night. You are really really good south carolina wow that very, very impressive, like by the way my day, Two drivers cross country alot night. drove through Kansas? Ok, so you can get in their care coming up on getting it back to the war in the new programme and the nato base in romania, that's playing a major role in providing reinforcements plus a political moment from musics biggest night. Do you care

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search for wise is happening where reopening right now and subscribe, martin, Their king Jr was killed, denied in Memphis tennessee shot on the phone as they stood alone on the balcony of his hotel room. He died and little an hour later last night. He said this The what happened now we ve got some. four copies but it really doesn't matter with me now because I've been to the mountaintop, april for nineteen, forty, nine, the north atlantic, treaty was signed between france, belgium, luxembourg. Another the united kingdom, Norway, denmark, italy, Portugal, iceland, canada and the united states The pipe was designed to keep within the letter and spirit of the united nations charter. The members realized, but real peace. Is

more than an absence of war, and they seek to promote political and economic stability in the north atlantic area, to ensure that they are sworn to stand together against the russian One would be an attack against their our two significant moments on this day in history that have connections to today's major events in ukraine and on it'll help seventy three years before the war in ukraine, world leaders gathered in washington to form the name. Alliance and fifty four years ago today, Martin luther junior was shot and killed in Memphis tennessee today, DR king's vision, takes another big step with a partial senate vote on the supreme port nomination of qatar. Gi brown jackson join yes, now historian and rogers chair and the american presidency and vanderbilt university John Mitchell,

it discusses the formation of nato in the dave you episode of this new podcast reflections of history out today. Also with us, the hosts to them must be seized, politics, nation present if the national action network reverend thou sharpen this week, national

action. Network brings together civil rights leaders from across the country for their convention, twenty twenty two: why don't we go to river now? First, before we get to meet them young and he ruins all conversation, all black with Doug bell, he just sachets belly and he goes the peruvian land act of eighteen fortieth yeah. Well, I like it actually is what led to me. It does put you to sleep, I guess you say: can you put a meta model? That's a lie or something funny was when I was training for the marathon right before the race. I was interviewed, and somebody said what do you listen to when you run ac dclg? What is it yeah and I said I listen to Jon meacham podcasts and they were absolutely stunned because they figured that would cut.

add about an hour to my title, of course, but I'm very mindful very much so so reverence talk about a third are historic. The thing that's going to happen today. That's connected actually the anniversary of the passing of martin luther king of course, as a vote on capitol hill now when we see today and you and I as all that this would save providential dead. On the fifty fourth anniversary of documents, assassination descended judiciary committee will be voting on a black woman, which would have been unthinkable that the time of kings assassination being nominated to the supreme court and That shows that the dream of may have been killed, but the dream rules even more and more to the realisation because he is a young woman. There were to put

the schools in miami Florida and went all the way to harvard, and now is on the precipice of going to the supreme court and with a lot of people other than probably jon Meacham, and those of us that grew up in the movement don't realize is. When doctor king went to memphis that day he went because he had gone few days before toledo marge for the striking garbage workers Those that from king was to moderate their disrupted the march. There was a right and someone was killed. He came back to prove that he could do nonviolent marches These sort of, like the friction you here today of those that are far left and those who say that others are to moderate when he came back again because of the militants disrupted and ass when he was killed and people forget that is in fighting is always happen.

One of the reasons why we always about convention of national action at work the week of doktor kings assassination to remind does the goals are there and what about this morning. The king when we think about was going on in ukraine, because he also dad fighting the one we had now he refused to be limited to just domestication. So there's a lot those signals to our head as we watch the judge go for information this morning and remember the level doktor king brought this country too and John major. I thought I thought one of your most moving Cast was when you re told the story: extraordinary april. Third, the nineteen succeed scrooge by doktor king is raining outside. Wanna go, it was, it was Ralph. Abernathy came back to him and said the king, you have to go there, people are packed, they came out in the rain. They want to see you. You look

The words that night actually foretold what's happening today. like Moses Vienna. I may not, get their wedding, but I've seen over the mountain top and You just got to believe this is part what he saw it is far away, saw and say we have this daily part, guess we're doing. I wanted to call it because moments, because I am sure you would be so excited about it that didn't thereby the first marketing meeting so there's the net fame here and then then the reverend can correctly, obviously is democracy, That's that's! What's goin on, obviously with this remarkable remarkable human drama in ukraine and the what's happening with with the judge today and what doktor king was talking about on the sunday before

He was assassinated. So four days before doktor king preached in washington national cathedral- and he said I never be what I ought to be until you are what you ought to be. You can never be what you ought to be until I am what I ought to be. That's the way universe is made, that's the way it is structured. He spoke of mark or see as a covenant that we to see each other as neighbours and not as adversaries and we should love each other. If everybody each other all the time Jesus wouldn't have had to make the commandment. You know you command someone to do something there are already doing, What we are seeing is this ferocious and wonderful. human spirit to be free both at home in the united states in this imperfect, complicated, disputations country. We keep trying to make a little more perfect, and these

remarkable people in the heart of Europe who Our standing up against an autocrat he's gonna go down in history as a butcher, Why are they stand to get their standing up because they want to determine their own destiny? They don't want to be the subjects of bizarre so I've. Khatami's around jackson will live We confirmed on friday in the full Senate vote. It's going to be a slim margin. We know Susan Collins is one republican who's going to vote for. But if you look I gave it nineteen sixty seven thurgood marshall, that sixty nine votes so yeah This is a moment for martin luther king dream without question is a moment for history, but it's also a little bit of a commentary on where our path. Six have arrived, that it will be such a close call for a nominee, so qualified no age shows that, as far as we ve come to see a black woman, impressive, isn't going to supreme court. We have yet a long way to go when you look at how divided the country is

look at how close this vote is when you have someone overly qualify and the doktor king understood that that's why he said in his speech. Did John Meekin talked about the night before the April third speech? Did we I have some difficult days ahead and- and I work very closely with his son, modern third and he and his wife, andrea and daughter, wheedling, a refit king monument. Today, and we know we face difficult days, but you never make progress without frederick douglass, say that do good news, though, is that many that already

Lookin have also said, wait a minute. We need to stop turning this around and I always say to Joe Scarborough that he and I who started on different poles in politics. The fact that we may not agree and everything we have really bounded in work together on things show would doktor king dream was possible and try to live that every day by doing it with a personal commitment towards reconciliation, because care become which you fighting John mean some your ear latest podcast, is about the formation of a nato. This is talking about just the the ebb and flow ebb and flow of history. Nato five years ago, three years ago, even in twenty twenty was fighting for its very life. Many believe Donald trump get reelected He would pull the united states out of nato, thereby making it an ineffective alliance.

and many people close to him thought I wouldn't survive. The second term here we are is in history, something here we are. nato stronger than Ban and I'd say two years have EU. We remember de gaulle and free deciding at times they wanted to be neutral in the cold war on certain issues. Here we of again Just over the past six weeks, nato becoming more relevant than it has been in our lifetime it's? Why institutions like this matter is because they withstand the vicissitudes of opinion,

right, I mean that's what he wrote a book about it, Harry truman in that crowded era in the late nineteen forties of the bombs are dropped. We enter a nuclear age, world war two ends the cold war immediately descends the iron curtain descends. George Marshall goes to harvard and nineteen forty seven announces the Marshall plan. Nato is formed. Truman doctrine. We will help those who are standing against the autocracy of communism. You know it's it's a good shape, but cliches or cushion because their true that mark twain once reputedly said, history doesn't repeat itself, but it does rhyme and so these these these was infrastructure of security to try it. To try.

to defend democratic lowercase devalues is arguably our greatest contribution as a nation to the world, not to connect the two stories again that we always practice those principles at home, but we try our best we try and anybody who thinks accuracy or the constitution or the american republic is somehow immune to global forces about I and authoritarianism. Undermine the kinds of the kind of world we want only has to look at the last five years in the united states and what happening in europe, for. You cannot take. Any of this, for granted Why can't you John made some? Thank you so much and you can listen to Johnson- is podcast reflections

history. Wherever you get your pockets risen very there really good, and I wondered whether I was kidding about the marathon wireless. Do their jobs also get that sweet, teases oaks chattanooga way only eases the miserly sweetie cornbread. Comrade a lot of harm. You don t know it's really good southern I'm not getting either make it s fall asleep on regions by guest, wherever listen to one other thing to meet. Him said he said: George Marshall went to harvard,

they will never say that of me every time just scarborough goods are, they actually grow tie they get security, guys think tackle. I try to go on a harvard. They come from things literally tackle me cut me. You don't belong here, illusory to tell us what you find that I just want to get a feature that my kids now you want to go on record now sharpen. Thank you as revenue side about master no action network. Twenty twenty invention is this week with big gas, including new york city mare, Eric Adams, house majority, with James kleiber and and former secretary of state Hillary Clinton. What would you want to get it what's a message of main message: we want to get out this. We ve got to fly to protect voting rights we To deal woods, gun, violence and criminal justice, for we don't have to choose one or the other. We need to find a way that we can.

With gun violence and deal with police form. At the same time, George Floyd family will be their avatar with family, because we want to bring this together. That's why we do it around. The tablet dr king's assassination saw all of the luminaries will be there, including Jonathan lear. Immediate family is Chris, Hayes is healthy and I didn't make the poster. I noticed what it is yet Nah. That's okay, we'll talk until I had soviet era. Jets were a no go, but the Biden administration now says it will help ukraine get more tanks on the ground. Thanks good and former president trump appears to be putting his political power to the test ahead. The twelve lawmakers he hopes to primary out of office were back in two minutes, such a large villa the weather. It's the complexity of climate change, the challenge!

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