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close to call trump backed doktor oz leads, is opponent dave mccormick by a tiny splinter. Just under twenty six hundred boats separate the two plus republicans in north carolina, eleventh congressional district run out of patience with congressmen, madison gothorum as trumps pig in that race is voted out. State granada is standing by to break down the results from last night's top races and what they mean and developing overnight. Finland and Sweden formally submit their applications to join nato. We will be joined in our third, our by sweden's ambassador to the. U s and clear watts will take us to the maps at this hour plus another sign. The justice department is expanding. Its investigation into the january sixth attack of the capital is now trying to get access to the transcripts of witnesses who have met with the congressional committee investigating the insurrection well bring in one of the reporters who broke that story and president Biden consoles those who lost loved ones in the deadly mass shooting in buffalo, as he vowed to promote, expose the people who use powerful platforms to spread hate. Jonathan. The mayor has some new reporting on that this morning good morning and welcome to morning Joe, it is a busy wednesday may eighty can, along with Joe willie and me, we have former aid that george w bush white house and state department, at least Jordan she's in a mess and bc political analysts and the aforementioned host of way too early and by how spirit cheap at political, Jonathan, le mayors, where this is well so bad, a wilderness. Relieved if you go not only so that you could you go through the growth per country, these public libraries

As of anger, you add a doll. Trumps candidate wedding is gubernatorial race in the city. Primary, which is still up for grabs two thirds of voters, voting against donald Selection. You go north carolina where again we get. We just talked about making just said that donald trump edison, call thorn, lost and incumbent lost in that house, race Madame from one state wide, and you can go across across the country in places like idaho, where they're having really some challenges in the republican party. Bore right: extremists, white nationalists the christian nationalist to the end and all of that sort of clumping together a lot of the far right candidates of the time, I'm supported, including the lieutenant governor lost their races to sell me

bag is best for the former president yeah mixed bag, even side in this state of Pennsylvania, which is where we're looking very closely. You have dug mass giuliano who was a late bandwagon choice of donald trump, Donald trump choice. Indeed, he won the republican nomination that state concerning establishment, republicans, who believe he's gonna have a tough time, beating their democratic josh shapiro in that state and, as meekest said still too close to call in that hotly contested senate race. Republicans still do not have a winner, the election to close to call between the trump back doktor member jaws and hedge fund executive in military, veteran, David, Mccormick mccormick, is backed by several trump administration officials, including former secretary of state, might bomb pale. Recent poland saw him losing momentum after trump attacked him as not mega. We talk

a lot in the last few days of a conservative commentator, Cathy barnett, who shook up the race and the final stretch with a late surge, but she has fizzled out and likely will finish. Third in this race on the other side, Democrats chose the tenant govern John federation to be. There are now many fishermen had been leading in the polls when he suffered a stroke on friday. He voted in the primary election from pennsylvania hospital and is expected to make a full recovery, as I mentioned in the goober torreon raced far right election conspiracy theories. Doug mastery, I know, has won the republican nomination. Mastery anna was leading the race when he received that late endorsement for for present from just on saturday, he has said if he wins, he will appoint a secretary of state that would quote reset the state voter roles.

state attorney, general Josh Shapiro ran unopposed for the democratic nomination Joe. If you look into doug mastery, I know his history and his record and his views democrats are excited about running against him, but with a strong candidate and josh shapiro, but will two thousand sixteen, when Donald trump was nominated and democrats were excited about that as well. Remember the setting. I lied scare with Hillary Clinton, talking to Hillary Clinton of the past laughing about the fact that she got donald trump, the Jim, Jim Carter's white house and nineteen, eighty celebrated when Ronald reagan, one the republican primary, because there is no way this guy was ever going. Did elected in eighteen sixty six, just like this pennsylvania, arrays ronald reagan, primary upon it actually promptly, in the two are.

The Democrats actually pump money in IRAN reagan's campaign for governor nineteen sixty six cause. They knew he would be the weakest candidate, so you always have to be very careful trying to gain this out. I will say this willie. I think I think I'll just pick from well speak for myself. I think sometimes arms. I speak in shorthand. I think a lot of people making the speaking in shorthand by just saying an election denier wine intense so may I make it so important that it up things like this. We do we just stop and say whether second, the republican they party in pennsylvania, alighted an election denier, a guy who is opposed to democracy, a guy who is opposed to fair and free elections, a guy who is ill liberal in much the same way, we see with authoritarian governments in hungary and basically says does it matter Why say it doesn't matter

the federal judiciary says it doesn't matter if it sixty three federal courts did say it. It doesn't matter. If there's no evidence, if my side does, when than the election Action outcome is illegitimate. This is something again something new I think new in two thousand and sixteen and something new in twenty twenty It's also again now its end in twenty twenty, two, the fact that we have candidates. and voters across america, contempt for man, much contempt sounding democracy that have as much contempt for american democracy as frame than the constitution that have as much contempt for the will of voters. It's it's something something again that we can't overstate

a casual fan or distant observer. He was at the start. This deal rally doug mastery and on january sakes, did not breach the capital was not inside the building. But there's some reporting that cross police lines point is he was there and fought, even in the days after, in the weeks after two tribes to overturn the twenty twenty election inside the state of pennsylvania and, as I said, has vowed if elected governor, he will appoint a secretary of state who will wipe clean the voter roles and make everybody register again, because these are believes that fraud and the voter roles, because of the fact that donald trump lost in pennsylvania. Let's go right to the big bore national political correspond ever NBC news and MSNBC steve court. Accurate got his fifteen minutes asleep and he's back with us now stay, let's start with the senate race boy! Look at those numbers. What still out there, who has the egg haven't flashbacks year, two november, twenty twenty and that week after the election, when it all came down the pennsylvania and we were waiting on malian barracks in, I think death, where this story is gonna wind up here and they said it raise here. You see right now, state why oz is lead over Mccormick's. It's just north of twenty five hundred votes that two tenths of one percent. One thing we are still trying to nail down from some of these counties. It appears there may still be some same day vote, that is to say some election day but folks who went out and voted at the polls yesterday, the still to be counted in some of these counties, not a ton, but we think there may be, for instance, some remaining in delaware county. This is a big one right outside of philadelphia, endorphin candy. This is where hairs from the state capitol is next door it this is in congo, uncanny were carlyle. Is you can find pockets throughout the state where there may still be some same day vote to be reported, so we're trying to kneel down exactly how much did there will be there? The same day vote? Basically, when you added up together

When you add it up together, cumulatively, across the state, oz and Mccormick, were basically splitting it. I mean it is basically a close to a tied race right now, and so, when you get through that, however much is left there we're trying to get nail that down with these counties this morning. First thing, then, the other thing that we do know is there are a number of mail in ballots that have

to be counted now, there are some counties in pennsylvania that came into yesterday, saying: hey. We have mail in ballots, we're not even going to look at them until the day after the election. There are a few counties that said that a place like mercer county in western pennsylvania made that statement. Other county said well. We started to count them or give you an example. Here, lucerne county said, we've started to count them last night. They said: ok, we're going to stop counting for the night, we're going to resume counting those mail ballots tomorrow. So there's more votes to cut music of the gods, for instance, is doing well here. So we're not sure exactly how many mail in ballots are remaining. But if you used, as a number say, twenty thousand down here. Twenty that number down here. Twenty is what you should look like. If you imbalance about twenty thousand mail in ballots. In again,

to be a zero there. I dunno, if that looks like twenty thousand any closer, but let's say that's twenty thousand votes. I think the key is this in the mail ballots that have been counted so far. Statewide Mccormick is running nine points ahead of oz on the mail ballots. So if you had twenty thousand give or take, you were trying to get the exact number here, but it might be somewhere in that ballpark. There would be an opportunity there for mccormick to make up properly. If it's nine points, not all of that gap with but gap with cut severely into that gap with us, because this is one of the things after republic in primary republican primary after trump endorsed primary this year, the trump endorsed candidate has been doing worse with the mail in votes than with the same dave

the same day votes? So if you've got a batch of mail in votes that are uncounted, we see Mccormack doing better with them here in pennsylvania, we've seen candidates like Mccormack doing better with them in other states before this. So there is an opportunity there, I think, with. However many mail in ballots, there end up being an opportunity for mccormick to cut into that us lead. And finally, just the key here is this: wherever it does end up, pennsylvania law is within half a percentage point difference between the candidates recount each two tenths of a point. Right now and again, there are some possibilities on the board here for us to add same day vote. There are some possibilities here from mccormick to add nail vote

yeah, hey steve, I I just I I'm looking at the pennsylvania map, I'm comparing it to the ohio map from a couple of weeks ago and and Dave Mccormack fits the bill of, say: Matt Dolan, an ohio guy, that's more a main mainstream republican, a guy who is very successful as a business person and we saw how horribly Dolan did in in rural ohio. I must say looking at the map It surprised, Mccormick did extremely well in rural,

in rural pennsylvania. That is something that I don't know how many people would have predicted beforehand. But again, if you look at the trend lines, how well did trump back candidates still in rural pennsylvania, eyes, underperformed greatly Mccormick did extraordinarily well. I did garnet to do with all that, yeah and- and perhaps Barnett took suppose away from us, but also same day. Voting when Mccormick was ahead by was a boats after the melon voting, I thought algae eyes is gonna overwhelm him with all the same they voting, but They writing, but I must say Mccormick showed a lot of resilience that I just backed by donald trump this year during the inside. As why he outperformed in so many ways a year, it depends what you're looking there are

we are looking. There are some regional differences in this race. One thing I think is we were saying: was there are going to be in east west divide because one of the things they do in pennsylvania is they put the candidates, poem county right next to their name,

cool make use alleghany county he's the only candidate to heavy western pennsylvania home county on the balance. That was one of the things they are looking for was in western pennsylvania. Would there be a boost from Mccormick and you could see Mccormick a lot of these western pennsylvania counties very well here that full county, a dynamic, I think, also came into effect. Look at this one place where I think people are most surprised to see. Merou for barnett on this map is right here in montgomery carry this is one of the biggest most high college. Education density carries intense obey. It is one of the suburbs. That's been trending more and more democratic barnett lists. Montgomery county is our home county causeless, montgomery canny as his home county barnett in oz, running one too in Montgomery county. So I do think there's a geographic element to based in the home counties. Votes were using on their backs, but yes, OZ, rural western pencil of actually I've mccormick in rural, western pennsylvania, idiot central pennsylvania put up some good numbers. The other thing the jumped out at me.

Good numbers. The other thing that jumped out at me is, if you go to northeast pennsylvania, you know who's doing real well right there. It was men that us take a look at like lackawanna county near where scranton is mehmed as by double digits. Here you know Wilkes barre Hazleton right around. Here again, I was putting up good numbers here I was looking at our spreadsheet. We were trying to track this based on Donald trump's performance in the two thousand, and sixteen republican primaries in the next trump swept pennsylvania in the two thousand and sixteen republican primaries. But it's really the only competitive republican primary trump ever ran in pennsylvania, and if you index this vote to Donald trump's performance being the sixteen republican primary the places where trump got the highest share of the vote in the two thousand and sixteen primary best in those places. So I think there was a boost for eyes, but again that doesn't mean it's gonna be definitive here, because state light, as you can see, this is how close mccormick has made it stay valise here

with a number with balance number of ballots to be still we counted mail in, and you said that your David Mccormick is running about nine points ahead of eyes when it comes to mail and do think that it's going to be enough for him to eke out a victory and not trigger a recount. The recount thing it's hard to see this getting north, either way of half a point

and that's what we have to be to be to avoid a recount. So, like I said, the question for the morning is exactly how much and where is there any same day vote that has not been counted and there's a little bit of confusion around that and I think delaware county, a pretty big one there. This is delaware. County right outside philadelphia is one of the places where our model is saying there might be. You know, ten. Fifteen thousand more same day votes to be counted their their website is suggesting something a little bit different, so we need to nail that down from them exactly how much is left there. There are a couple of places like that, but there could be opportunities in that for us potentially to build this lead a little bit but, like I said, even if oz pads this lead by one then you ve got the male ballast. the mail ballots to be counted and mccormick, as I said, leave

Oh it's been carried so far. What we ve seen in other primary suggest candidates like Mccormick, tend to do better with veil. The male looks like an opportunity for whatever lead, as emerges with four mccormick too, to eat into it enough, potentially certainly to get it inside that point five. It would take a lot for us when you factor in everything, that's left here, who take a lot for us to get this above zero point five. point five percent. I think the interesting scenario is if we can all the same day up eyes has the lead, then up count mccormick leap. Frog We're mc lean, frogs him and tat. And then days of war deja vu all over again you're talking about donald trump's, backed candidate in pennsylvania, being overtaken after the election on this barracks, that's what it would take for mccormick right now that was a dynamic we certainly saw play out and twenty twenty that the former president had some trouble with, will put it that way. Why did you stevenson

Hey Steven, John full, Amir yeah, I'm sure former president trump won't say a word about that scenario. But let's, let's turn the page said north carolina. If we could and another high profile race, madison car thorn, the young congressman has been in, shall we say a few headlines of late and he You did a concession, tell us what what

what went wrong for him. Get breaks down that race for us. If you will yeah what went wrong for medicine costs there and obviously some terrible headlines for him in recent weeks and a pretty solidly coordinated campaign in the eleventh district of north carolina you're, seeing it here. It's far western north carolina, beautiful mountain country out there and take a look here. This is these: are the component counties within the district? This is chuck edwards who beach cos on the margin here, ends up at thirteen hundred votes and what's interesting, cloth or nearly pulled this out. I think the reason coauthor ultimately is going to fall short see the golds here. These are the counties that Edwards won. This is buncombe county. That's where asheville is. This is Henderson county. This is where hendersonville is. This is two things home county, but this we're just circled here- is the political base in the state legislature of chuck edwards so ultimately would ended a path

Ultimately, what ended up happening was fun. He was interesting to watch. These results come in last night because we were watching the same day. Get counted up in all of these rural counties right along the tennessee border in cauthen was killing it in those counties, and so there was a moment last night when Edwards had jumped out to a big lead and I'm watching one county after another, specifically along the border come in, and I'm saying you know, I think cartoons going to catch them. I think quarter is going to overtake them, but what ended up happening was the final outstanding votes just about all of the final standing. Votes ended up coming, particularly in Henderson county edwards, represented in the state legislature, and it was a totally different story there, the folks that knew edwards as constituents, the folks that knew him as their state legislator and that also knew caught on as their congressmen. They broke decisively for edwards and there's enough population enough votes in that area. That's what carries edwards, that's what puts them over the top, because in the rest of this district, cawthorne ended up cleaning up

much will be seeing you again in our fourth, our if you're, still standing and really all of these races put together was the first it kind of initial test as we as we had toward them in terms of troms power. So an endorsement from donald trump job in these races and these races translated to what you want it. Obviously, if you're a republican, and you want a wound in your primary, unfortunately, I think that the cost is too high. if the cost is too high for most decent people, but there are a lot of indecent people out there that will do anything to win. I've kept the news vance exist, you get you a good, a good christian vote for donald trump and then he decides to wants to get elected and suddenly donald trump is the greatest president. Ever despite the fact, he compared him to hitler. Just a few years ago same thing with DR oz, Dr Oz,

what about a shape? Shifter, here's a guy that was was so conservative, with a small c on coven that it may doctor voucher, blush and now suddenly he's he's. Mr now he's mister a super maga, it's just it's an absolute joke. I do wonder I look. I look at these people and I do wonder just this. Their complete sense of shame Love for you to talk about that, but I wanted love for you to talk about that, but I want to know what more thing really quickly and that is that here we find ourselves in pennsylvania again, where we're having to wait to see who's going to win I just want to remind everybody here. This it's by design this it's by design by trappist know by design, because they do. if they're going to do badly in early voting and those are the first results that are going to come in and they think that's going to shape the coverage through four twenty. Sixteen you can go back and get. You were google machine people,

we can legislatures in wisconsin and pennsylvania in Michigan. Please do what line to satisfy florida dies count the early votes, early votes early will way action as we always do in florida by nine or ten o clock at night there, we'll be no controversies. Everybody can go to sleep, knowing who the next presidency going to be in this case, if they count in all the votes, early willie that everybody would now before they went to sleep, this as people act like all my god, it's been this, applicant nominee for the senator was but again like all my god, it's pennsylvania, this is romania. This is just how it is Let me say again: it's not a communist we say again: it's not a communist can actually do things that makes We do things that make sense riot count. Your like they do in florida, like they do in florida like they do. in the polls, clothes and floor

at seven clothes when the you now in florida, you moving where the elections moving, because the early votes- and there only question- is: are there catch up. This is again but again, but again, they keep it this way. like donald this way, so said. Follow and donald trump will lie again weeks that Mccormick wins here. You'll start is lying again, Dave Mccormick will start the lying again. Oh, it's really go we're having to wait two weeks who, in the world waits two weeks the people. The way two weeks are state legislators who do it intention our state legislators who do it so their voters don't know who Well that night? They need to go and do it the way floor? to go and do the way Florida does it and yes was governor flora. It's not a communist consumers, The governor was governor in florida. It's not a communist conspiracy. It's just the smartest practice saying this most practical

thanks, as you say, it doesn't have to be this way. But it's designed to be this way because in the space from election night till two three four five days a week out that gives all the oxygen in the space for donald trump and others conspiracy theories to say, they're, trying to steal this from doktor ass. We know why they're doing it, it shouldn't happen, you're right and there it it's gonna, take a different, the legislature to change the rules, but there's a republican legislature for and they do it there. I can legislature in florida and they do it there. So I dunno why they don't have it in pennsylvania, at least just before. We wrap this up want to go to you quickly on the way some of these candidates have run. Let's just take pennsylvania as an example towing the line between, let's, take David more, who knows This man called jane. Swell business man you're, an american history, all of that and then in the process of trying to court the endorsement of donald trump move back over it. Well, we shouldn't blame donald trump. The january six. There was a lot going on talked about himself, as you know,

america first agenda, it's a line, they walk and it's just doctor as to watch mccormick to watch these other candidates. It's a little bit painful to watch them, try to get down trumps endorsement and then, when they dont get it to try to swing back a little bit, but also to keep his voters to try to swing back a little bit, but also to keep his voters yes, and also, if they didn't get it, maybe they would have been better off not trying for it in the first place and keeping a more cautious distant add. The Glen young can playbook so to speak. If we're really going to hit the next phase of this great twenty twenty two election experiment you look at has contenders are getting knocked out and who's victorious in these primaries. It's really going to get a bit more existence when they have a candidate who marched in january six for governor of pennsylvania on the geo p side,

How much is the geo p actually going to support dogma? Austrian oak candidates, like that, I'm looking at The next phase now and it's gonna, be the stakes are sir, a little bit higher than just votes. Alright, still I had on mortem still. I had on morning, Joe the justice department investigation into the january sixth attack on the capital appears to be widening, will explain that brand new reporting plus present Biden makes a somber trip to the buffalo grocery store, where a gunman opened fire on Saturday will show you his message concerning the racist, based on the latest on those ukrainian soldiers. It back, evacuated from the steel plant. In mary, a poll the ukrainian government it, be part of a prisoner swap, but russia may labour them members of a terrorist group.

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officials have asked law makers on the house select committee for transcripts of interviews? The panel has conducted as part of its probe committee chair, benny thomson indicated his panel isn't ready to hand over those documents. Here's what I told reporters yesterday. The au J officials have asked law makers on the house select committee for transcripts of interviews. The panel has conducted as part of its probe committee chair, benny thomson indicated his panel isn't ready to hand over those documents. Here's what I told reporters yesterday reality. We opened up now, obviously one

is now one of the first reporters who broke this story congressional reporter at the new york times: luke broad water. Also with us former. U s attorney and and emerson bc contributor, Barbara MC wade fluke. We want to dig deeper into your reporting, but first barbara. Can you just give us overall ascents explain what this means? the broke this story congressional reporter at the new york times justice department is looking at war. Within just the physical attack that occurred on January six at the capitol, but the full scope of all of the things that the january the committee has been investigating that includes aids. To my pants, who talked about the pressure donald trump put on him to stop the certification it include, tells us that J, high level officials who are pressured by trump to declare that there was fraud in the election. I think it is it's an expansion of the investigation. Now I don't scope it means necessarily that only now are they beginning that expansive? to gain. I think they have just reached a point where they ve done.

sure donald trump put on him to stop the certificate I've been doing over J high level officials who are pressured by trump too, to get the content of email, for example, is the kids and expansion of the investigation necessarily that only now are the beginning How are they beginning that expansive investigation? I think they have just reached a point where they ve decided it's ok to go overt. It's likely they have been doing over investigation before now. Search warrants that are sealed to get the content of a mail, for example, is likely already completed and are now ready to proceed to this phase. Lucas's your reporting in the new york times too Well, obviously, different aspects of the investigation has been moving at different places there there quite far along in an rounding up rioters right, there's more than seven hundred people

who came into the capitol that day or or came onto the capitol grounds that day who have been arrested, but what they're doing is, from my sense of it as they're, starting at january six then working backwards. So they started with the attack itself. An rounding up, rioters right, there's more than seven hundred people who came into the capital that day or or came out of the capital apple grounds, that day who have been arrested, but what they're doing is from my sense of it. People in lots of different aspects of the plans to overturn the election high ranking officials in the white house, people who are involved in the so called fake electors scheme? All the way down to domestic delete the leaders of domestic violence, extremist groups, so there are many entities should the justice department would be interested in seeing if only pheasant, maybe pre, free information before they do their interviews of these same people, perhaps

all the way down to domestic delete the leaders of the the think. It shows pretty clearly now that the justice department is so there are many enemies. The justice department would be interested in seeing if only it's really what the core of your reporting in this new pieces that they want. The transcripts from the select committee from trump associates from people around donald trump, who may have spoken to him that day, who may have planned the event on January six, who may have helped him try to stage the coup in the days after january. Six, do you have any idea or any sense of who exactly the justice department is looking at specifically that committee from trump associates from people around We may have spoken to him that day, who may have planned the event on January six, who may have helped him for a two stage: the coup in the days after january. Six, do you have any idea

broad is the way I understand it. It was it's the sort of start of a negotiation with the committee. First, they tell them week. We might want access to all of your transcripts. The committee is going to say. Well, maybe you can have access to some of them. Maybe there's some information. We want from the justice department that we'll use, broad. Is it the way? I understand access to this? If you give us access to that, They first they tell them week. We might want access to all of your transcripts and the committee is going to say: well, maybe you can have assets maybe there's some information, we want from the justice department that we use this as a negotiating tool and will give you access to this. If you give us act do you know, I think many thompsons comments were interesting yesterday after thing, and then we her more from some more sources connected to the committee that this is part of a discussion and

I do think you know that the base of the democratic party is gonna want to see strong justice department investigation, and I think they will probably want the committee to turn over the interviews, so whether that happens immediately right now or in a matter of weeks or months, remains to be seen. Hey Barbara Jonathan, I want you to pick up louis is going. There has been a lot of growing pressure on depart, injustice, two to act on this and certainly the politics involved. We don't have to weigh in on that, but if indeed the agenda was agreed for some of the more bold face names in trumps orbit, not just those who actually were storm the capital that day. What would that look like what sort of charges could they face? What's wrong time line might whistling, as LISA Monaco is the deputy attorney general. She gave a talk last week that I think that how this roadmap plays out one names in trumps war, not just those who actually we're storm the capital that day, what would that look like what sort of facts tell you where to go. You start

we just said with a crime, that's in front of you and then build from there. So the facts are going to matter, but I have to imagine that when they're looking at the attack, they have to be looking at some of the plays out. One thing that she said: that's really is attack, began, continue its crimes and not people opening the certification, which I think opens the they are so the facts you gonna matter, but I have to imagine that when there looking at the attack, they have to be looking at some of the communication and that opens the door to the letters that Jeffrey after the attack began. again continued to pressure mike pence in into stopping the sort of which I think opens the door to all of those members that he wrote and what their effort was to try to. I too, for the counting on that day, and that opens the door to found a ball anyone, at any level who, even if they were not at the capitol that day, I hear that to my ear. I hear that donald trump.

Its of for the electors that had been elected by the voters. Elected by the voters. So I think these facts one leads to another and, as least Thank you both so much. We greatly appreciate it and we'll have more on this big development later in the show before we get to the next story, though Jonathan Mayer, I wanted to talk about another investigation that I think there's a growing growing movement, certainly in the new england area, to launch an investigation that is exactly what's happening to the boston red sox white. appreciate it will have more on this big development later in the show before we get to the next story, though genital me, I wanted to talk about another investigation that thus the air that I think there is a growing growing movement. Certainly the neue runs in the same any ground the pressure on attorney general merrick garland to bring charges against the red sox front office. Here nathan eovaldi got through the first inning. Listen to this negative, all they got through the first inning on five pitches wow.

Thirteen do not thirteen before last night. What was five home runs? What was it five home runs in the same any growing pressure on an attorney general merit garland to bring charges against the red sox for office, pull them that adding they gave up god, through the first any listen to this negative. All they got through the first sitting on five pitches, while in the second reading on five home runs five, the same picture law crushed, but I will say Joe, we showed error and it was just a blood bath. He was pulled in that area, which team the red sox played last night, exactly the Houston astros one wonders if perhaps they got the big trash cans snuck into fenway park. Last night I thought I'd I'd, I'd willie. I thought I heard those trash cans banging. I really I did know you know what this is like. We, we we've we've split the series so far, red sox played last night, and I we have exact used

and the boys in the back are off track betting. They said you know Joe this series, it's kind of how you know the series is coming up. It's going to be a lot like the nineteen sixty world series, where the yankees crush the pirates in three games, but mazur roski. Wanted then remember when I told you that willing, just like the french election that will never forget going to squeak by tonight back in sixty, I have to say, though, it's nights where we can find common ground, red sox and yankee fans. It's not often, but when we're talking

the Houston astros, we sort of lock, hands, lock, arms and move forward together on the great cheaters who owe the yankees a world series title. They owe aaron judge and mvp award, not that I'm bitter, but it's nice to see america's team. The scrappy new york yankees bunch of kids who were playing stickball in the bronx while their moms hung the laundry out on the line and they call them into the stadium and they're playing baseball. Now majorly, big league baseball and they're doing just great and we're so proud of them, with the best record in baseball. Who would who would have ever believed, stick ball and then loosen up the fire hydrant as little aaron judge, run and run through the streets of the bronx and all the way to where you know it's all. It's all very, very exciting and that's where we can come together, we're going to be singing reach out and touch not coming here. Any analyst rankings. He knew it's an MSNBC clint mod because at the big board tip break down what could be next for

It is strange that the bribes and all the way to now- it's all, it's all very, very very exciting you that's what we can come together. We're gonna be singing reach out and touch emergency bill from house democrats and the possibility of criminal charges connected to this crisis, we'll be right back

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is forty six pass the hour. Turning now to the war in ukraine, where the fate of those ukrainian fighter seward vacuous it from that steel plant in mariposa seems to be uncertain. This morning russia's press, Think about what you tell me now tonight, with Joshua Johnson streaming, weak nights of abc NBC now the aim of regiment a far right ukrainian group and one of them. Six passing our turning now to the war terrorist organization. This as Moscow also signal that the five hours would be interrogated, proposed crimes committed mary. A pole seems to be uncertain. This morning, Russia's prosecutor general's office yesterday said it is asking the country's supreme court to declare the age of a regiment of a far right ukrainian grow and officials had said the fighters would be exchanged for prisoners of war, but

his comments yesterday cast a shadow on that deal, it also raises concerns about the future of the remaining soldiers who are still inside the sprawling complex process. and held territories, with an agreement that they will later returned to ukrainian soil. Ukrainian officials had said the fighter inside jordan it's now: national security, analyst for NBC news and MSNBC clint watts Clinton. What more can you tell us about that and other troop movements on the ground in ukraine, yeah megan standard russian approach. They say one thing: they do another, it's very clear that they haven't been totally upfront about what they want to do with those. remaining soldiers that were at that steel plant somewhere from these battalion somewhat from the ukraine military over the last month. We talked about damp down here, Mary pull that steel factory, but became the last refuge for all the ukrainian forces and everybody fighting the russians there's about a thousand people. It looks like maybe that have moved out there,

They say one thing: they do another, it's very clear that they haven't been totally up front about what they want to do with those remaining soldiers that were at that plan somewhere from these battalions somewhat from the ukrainian military. Over the last month, we acted very slow battle. At this point with, ukrainian military having success here. Pushing a lot of the russian forces out of our keep by doing that, they've sent the artillery far enough back that the directly target very precisely, at least inside her keys. The the idea for the ukraine is: can they threaten this line of communication and logistics downs? but is a protracted, very slow battle. At this point, this point with the ukrainian military, Well, the russians remember the first one after kiev and failed. They now have failed really to build this front out here, which is to do a full envelopment of the western part of donbass, trying to This is the m group withdraws ness. While there are soldiers redeploying from Mary you pull to doughnuts those are, russian soldiers redeploying there.

I been able to bring this together and what it seems like at this point is that much Max as the original second ball plan of the russians from memory so from ever they first went after kieva failed. They now have failed really to build this front out here, which is to do a full involvement of the west the asean group with unesco, the asean group with don't ask whether soldiers redeploying from Mary Opel too, don't nets those russian soldiers redeploying there time for the russians their soldiers aren't motivated. They don't believe that what they're, fighting and and they're, not particularly successful where the russians still have strength, is in artillery but equation is starting to change. The ukrainian military is building up their their counter battery. There are counter fires and with the addition of western ammunition western in short, comments further together. If they can do that, they can slowly advance against ukrainians. The prom question, as you out and start to look down here to the south, the russians still whole curse and what it seems like they're trying to do is create sort of fake government.

Starting to change the ukrainian melody. occasions, which would signal that they might try and annexes entire lambro down here connecting russia marry. You pull all the way over to Carson, which would give them what they were initially trying to achieve here north for me it so this the big question: is you zoom out and start to look down here to the south? The russian still whole carson and what it seems like they're trying to do is create. Sort of fake governments for governments in these locations, which would signal that they might try an annex this entire land bridge down here connecting russia marry. You pull all the way over to her son, which we give them what they were initially trying to achieve here, north of crimea. So this is something the watches. Did they try and establish the stateless and hold and defend this ground? Overtime are clear lines of lending more clan. Thank you very much want to turn now to buffalo. President Biden is calling on americans

is straightforward: terrorism, terrorism, domestic terrorism, reckon community in western new york yesterday to pay their respects to the ten lives lost and the meat with vigour and to me with the victims, families, then in it, the american people, president Biden, forcefully denounced the ideology, believed to be the motive for saturday's attack. What happened here the fester and grow right in front of our eyes no more I mean no more We hate to vicious thirst for power. Why. The ideology of white supremacy has no place in america. We have to refuse living in a country The fear and lies are packaged for power and for profit. Politics must been allowed to Girl right front of our eyes, requires all of us present politicians we need to say is clearly forces,

none of us stay in the sidelines, at a white house event later in the day, president Biden spoke further about the need to push back against those beliefs and promise to quote expose everybody responsible for spreading them. Johnny snap, professor, at princeton university, our friend, eddie glove, Jr and MSNBC contributor, MIKE barnacle, guys good morning to you both and we haven't, talked since the the shooting on saturday in buffalo that killed ten people just want to get your thoughts on it. Thoughts on what the president said, we've been here before think about charleston and too many other times. If you look down the list of victims, there are people like ruth whitfield, who was eighty six years old, had just visited her husband in a nursing home and stopped through the supermarket to get something to eat, killed in a she store getting something to eat. By in buffalo that killed ten people.

her dead because of her rates, no matter who she was and what kind of life she had lived its tragic yes, but it's it's infuriating its maddening. I'm curious met your thoughts this morning, my first, The elder was eighty six years all had just visited her house scream out loud. I imagined my own mother something to be killed. coming home. By an eighteen year old who and because of her rates, no matter who she was and what kind of life she had lived its tragic yes, this tragic yes, but it's it's infuriating its maddening. I'm curious about your thoughts my first reaction was that I just wanted to screen to scream out loud. I imagine it was daily life and to live with the memory of tear. the of the two and a what does it mean to live with terror, to live with an idea that someone over the possibility that someone could identify a secular data region? Member buffalo is one of the seventh most segregated city in the

if the american experiment is really really over and to live with chair. It was daily life and to live with the memory of terror I will do that. You have forces trying to disenfranchise forces in the country that are tried to exploit resentments and hatreds, lloyd resentments and hatreds and to wonder to wonder if the american experiment is real The possibility that you know because there's not only there's not only buffalo. There's a a different way of being together. My my tendency at the moment, was have to refuse the idea of living in a country that is filed resources in the reservoirs of hope, ass. It were there's a confrontation with the true we can Wanna tell ourselves the lie. One of the things

you know we can, in this moment to darkness, imagine a different way of being together and president Biden Our president Biden said something like this yesterday that we have to refuse the eye That is okay. This perfect union, as it were very requires a confrontation with the true we can no longer tell ourselves the lie. One of that one of the things about the american story. I grew up as a nation. It seems to me- and I have to have. I have to believe that we care There are two more perfection right: the more perfect union, as it were fairytales, often from adolescents, the children, about as a country, eddie, the children we have to grow up. in we hold these truths to be self evident. presentation, it seems to me- and I have to believe that written by a slaveholder. yeah some

those aspirations used by people like fret from frederick douglass to as a country. Two other leaders who have moved us along and I'm just wondering when you look at this. I'm wondering, do, look at or something all are created equal written by slaveholder. Those words are those asked. Those aspiration, for used by people like threat from France the very people that martin Luther king called the white moderates. I'm just wondering when you look, to the civil rights movement because people were awakened from their sleep yeah, you know and oftentimes. We tell the story of the sixteen street baptist church bombing Joe in a way that sits the kind of progressive narrative of the civil rights movement. We don't tell the story that burma exploded after that people that martin Luther king called the white moderates and actually gave

He gave a dramatic build over in that moment that you have to go the brook of fire in order to get to the other side, often times. I think still straight baptist church bombing Joe in a way that sits. The kind of progressive narrative of the civil rights Burma have exploded after that New the people were who tie the fan around materials nick If the people we love. These are folks. We interact with every single day these, are folks who are clearly ok with the fact that my fellow a segregated, ok with the fact that buffalo has thirty one percent black silk and buffalo thirty one percent of poverty. People are clear with the fact that the country, in its day to day living, is deeply segregated that we're walking a mystery to each other, at the soil that allows for this guy this baby, this boy, this man to grow up, is part of our daily lives. It seems to me, were cocaine with that and then, when something like this happens, suddenly we all clutch our pearls and say we're not this when in fact, our date

the one percent and poverty people a clear with the fact that the country in its day before to happen. We have to refuse to live in a country not only where there is hatred that leads to this kind of mass murder. We have to find. I to live in a contract that says that some people, because of the color the skin, are valid. More than others happens, suddenly. Finally have clutch our this, and so that we set the conditions for this isn't Biden should get up and say we should refuse the law. Not only should he get up and say that we should refuse to hatred that leads to this kind of mass murder. We have to finally refuse to live in a country that says that some people live in a country that says that some people, because of the color of their skin on value more than others, which is finally require. It seems to me require it seems to me not only that president Biden should get up and say we should refuse the lie. Not only should he got up and say that we should refuse to live in a country in a country that that's ok

p- immigration in the nineteen tony's, this feeling of white. Stamp it out. Finally, general anglo saxon, protestantism, gay justification grant the clan act of. We can do this if we just simply decide to do so, It seems to me about that. That's one of the many one of the many things. Just don't add up here. If you look at many people that are talking about being. this feeling of and brown americans, they came in doesn't riera reemergence again a gay justification for the clan to return. We can do that, if we just simply decide to do so. It seems to me about that. That's that's one of the many one of the many things had just don't add up here. If you look at many to be talking about being replaced by black a black and brown americans, vague, probably came here in the middle of the eighteen. Hundreds,

two hundred years late, you're not being replaced by Bible. Esters were forced to america, I mean, if you're an eastern european if and wanted saying, don't replace us that you're a couple hundred years late body, if your german american, I view of germany in your blood if your irish american the rich american. You probably came here in the middle of the aid you bet, two hundred years late, you're. Not, we're not being replaced by by black americans. They were here first and not not that they wanted to be here not today trying to talk himself out of doing this, and then he would go I can live on four chan and five minutes later. He would say that he would he would be talked back into. It talked about wanting to kill himself, so he didn't have to kill other people. He would go back online. A lot of a lot of the theories replacement theories we ve been talking about for the past several days, Adams theories

self out of doing this, and then he would go back on line phone for chance and five minutes and five minutes later he would say that he would back into it, talked about wanting to kill himself, so he didn't have to kill didn't have to kill other people. He would go back. the guard rouse and we had a responsibility too not for the past several days. Those those theories, those who the guard rails. That's why I'm ever walter why it was so important. about talking about certain people that lacks the guard rouse about certain stirring up hatred, and we had a responsibility too. You see, because so many of those people online and on a powerful those who lack the guard rails. Republicanism anymore they're, not that's why I thought it was so important for job

Now conservative, my entire life, I've read and and commentators in stirring up I've read or profit, because so many of those people online and on a powerful cable news network there not selling republicanism anymore they're, not selling conservatism. I know and read my entire life and understood them nothing conservative about this they're, not preachy, servant I've there I've I've read Russell Kirk I've. I, think they're, they're doing look over there and look over there. The talking about demographic, through all the they conservative are the ones that are doing evidence of works very specific what these people without this there, not preaching conservatism- since very specific. What they're doing but they're they're trying their there

bar, despite the fact that their they're trying their they're doing talking about demographics. Look over there the demand that their. George Soros I read that they're, the ones that are doing replacement now, is declaring and I'm using their words these people who are spreading hatred. These politicians and these pandit since varies trying to bring more brown is black people to america too. placement very. They are saying that it should time magazine our request for a that was written in ninety ninety bits: that's bearing and I'm using their words is declaring that I'm using their words, declaring evident for thirty forty years. The fact that you have people now millions and billions of dollars. spreading a lie saying that an international jewish bankers behind all of this is is sick and there our request for power and profit, that was retina. Ninety ninety bits

this is. I think this is a trend, and this is what is going to look like this is this has been evident for thirty forty years. The millions of dollars by the latest example of who we are, is is sick and they're, doing it for power and profit, and there were some This is who we are back and they're doing it for power and profit and their responsible for this. And we've been living in this country all of our lives and it's surrounded us all of our lives. and with regard to what the president was talking about. Yesterday, the commentators and the politicians who speak to this deplis innocently true this is who we are: when you use words in today's social media world a vaccine and we living in this kind termites and the foundation of a house, and the house is called the to what the president was talking about yesterday

caters and the politicians who who speak to this duplicity. Leslie, and its being destroyed and when you use words in today's were occasionally now examples like buffalo. There will be another buffalo it happens of a house in the house. rageous becomes normal in it. Slowly being on rest right as we sit on it and is being destroyed. Being, for groceries were killed because they were black. That's all it's the single reason they died, there and what happens with social media is the outrageous becomes normal in our fury? Are We are, after our unrest, until another shooting occurs, then hello, workpeople shopping for groceries,

Or whether it's beyond legislation or beyond, hope That's the single reason they died their skin color, so we're shock. It is an president Biden. I, for once was relieved that the president just went there in his comments, and you know when he talked Then we'll start this all over again, I don't know whether it's beyond legists and there are republican leaders as well, who use these ideas in phraseology when they're speaking and they know who they are at least to phonic is one of them and they immediately Joe started chirping. No, no! No! You can't politicize this. You can't politicize these murders. That would be wrong. That's not what we're talking about here. The president was trying to focus in on the root of the problem, and you know what it has invaded our politics. Well, how ironic that the very people that the the second there's

and they ate It- lay Jos herbert chirping. No, no! No, you can't politicized this, you can polluters, on their news channel, they put it up on line, they actually How ironic that very people they visited? The second there's, a brown american who commits a crime, are Really I do. I do want to say that This is I don't believe this is who america is. I do believe this our black american who commits a crime, they they put it up on their news channel. They put it up on line they actually have, and it is, it is white pack that that they feed into by doing this, I just I, this I just I just really I do. I do it's the way they behaved in San Antonio, the way they behave. I have this is sending america is. I do believe this is power. A large segment of our society is

our rules being taken down that led to the violence, I I will say- and I think it probably the minority here I do- want to offer people hope that are watching today. I believe Behave and pittsburgh the way they behaved in san and the way they behave. I have been sending sending. The wrong message is not understanding banning again the power of those words that lead to those two to the guard rails being taken down that led to the violence. I I will say in the eye believe that these it will help that are watching today. I believe extremists like the governor and pennsylvania. The republican do material candidate, but you know well, the thing is, it doesn't just happen. It doesn't just happen like we can stay here and we can wine. We can talk about it, america, we lost or we can get on the phone We believe that these people will lose in the fall. These extremists, like the governor

the governor of pennsylvania. The Republican do but now the thing is it doesn't just happen. It doesn't just happen, but we can stay here instead here and we can wine, we can talk about in amerika, we lost we can get on the phone we can collar friends and neighbours. We can get involved, we can find candidates, we believe and whether the republicans independence are democrats that will grass that will call this outlook. jane. He called it out, like the entire democratic party, called it out. We can elect those, be we organize we vote. Doing, found banks, it happens by driving. People do that, yeah, and we saw, as you say, a mixed bag on those questions last night, but it was very telling to me eddie howe, it's paws, so many particular republican had in responding to this. How it's become

what should I say about that? Am I going to make some of my voters angry? If I give a full throated condemnation of the racist murder of ten people. That's a hard question to answer, but the place we in our politics right now, among looking anyway, certain segment of Republicans is. I need to stop and think about what I say about the racist murder of ten people buying groceries, because I'm worried about a segment of my voters that tells you What about where we are absolutely is the echo of their good people Is this the murder of ten people? That's a hard question to answer, but the place we are in our politics right now, among republicans anyway, certain segment of Republicans is. I need to stop and think about what I say about the race. say about the racist murder of ten people buying groceries, because I'm worried segment of my voters. Elsie alot about where we are absolutely use. The echo of There are want to say that we have to admit that this is in some ways it a country

I understand, I understand your impulse. I think we do with the first amendment. If we don't allow this these notches in cities that doesn't mean that word is his hesitancy to agree. What might have been gray. What might that this is where we are joined want to say that we have to admit that this is I think we have to admit it to, because I think once we admitted meant that this is who we are, that racism, but why supremacy that this ugliness all centres to admit that one. From the very beginning to admit that one is a seller. Doesnt mean that you can. Absolution of ourselves, but for us to be born again, I'm using all his language, but you can get the well so so park test. I'm going to say that that admission is at the heart of us being different. We don't want to admit it, because if we admit it, we have to admit who

we actually are. We have to confront ourselves, not for hoped to be absolution of ourselves, but hope for us to be born again, one using always language, but you ve been in the well some support best. I want to say that better mission is actually at the heart of us being different, because we don't like to admit it, because if we admit it, we have to admit who we actually are. We have to confront ourselves and that's what I want us to do. It seems to me when you think about it. I think it to where we are right now I will say: eddie fundamentals that this country is built on, for, on million americans toward a more perfect democracy and Joe doesn't give up on that hope. Although I they could have taken that path, They could have voted for a man who said there were good people on both sides at charlottesville. They could have voted for a man who talked to muslim registries, they could have

million americans voted for who talked could averted for a man that said to a black congresswoman who said to a muslim congresswoman who said to his spanish congresswoman, go back to where you came from there do, that eighty million americans voted for Joe Biden. Tens of millions of americans made Nancy pelosi. Speaker of the house. To talk about muslim bands, actually, where the head of that said to black congresswoman, who said to a muslim we're a nation, but americans voted for Joe by tens of milk They don't do that anymore it's, the eighty million americans have done in rejecting donald trump, but I think what, the millions of americans made you'll ever where the head of the senate, what nation

that slavery is not an original sin that I'm not saying that we might That's not just eighty million it's hypocritical as a country and we wheelie the dream that we all have of moving towards a more perfect union, the dream that we all have of of of me in thanking them saying this. Where we hold these truths to be self evident that all people are created. Well, why? My god, we weren't even in that ballpark, until nineteen sixty five all have of moving towards a extraordinary gains Nineteen sixty five to say, haven't you. Is a historical. Falls is misleading and I think sends the wrong message to americans whom, People are created equal. Why? My god, we weren't, even in that

fallen. They go do elections it just getting to be just like yet. teachers telling students that america is so racist that if since the wrong message to americans in the seventeenth century, eighteenth century nineteenth century, were is on the line again rose far when they go to elections. It's just. I get a third beaches Let me just cite yet and in the founding of our public. Then that will fighting to make the constitution a better document and other than that, be yeah. Perhaps lincoln and his constant battles can I well, just not the k, sullied abolitionists. Right now this

I think, of Abraham lincoln, it was just absolutely fascinating because lincoln his entire life was being pulled from by democrats and conservatives to stop being such a radical he's being pulled by abolitionists white abolitionists black abolitionists constantly, and Poor man walked a tortured path for thirty years until the study of Abraham, weaken it was, slavery was abolished. and conservatives to stop being such a radical his entire life. So stop being such a radical he's, been pulled by abolitionists white abolitionists black abolitionist constantly and this. The bible. Let's talk about you know, One of the famous helps, just as I am, and waiting, not Clear, my soul of one dark blot. it's the blot we have

I understand that this is a part of who we are. It is more complicated than that. You talk about you talk about the them in the bible. will matter yes. I have one of the famous hounds, just as I am aware we have, but we have to rid ourselves ass as a nation. It isn't It's trying to make it larger why votes for power for money and vat. is what we have to face as a country, so I know MIKE wants to jump in here, but I just want to push back just a little bit, because I think I understand what you're saying when I say this is who we are: I'm not trying to deny the good the the the the fight, the fact that america is a fight fit. America has been more than just simply an idea. It has been an argument over

we take ourselves to be, and there have been good forces. Our good friend, Jon Meacham talks about the battle between our better and lesser angels, coming from drawing from from, given the large, what what did I say earlier Joe. I said that our day to day lives for the defining the fact that america is a fight you know as well as I do that we live in a segregated america. built environment reflects who we are. About the battle between our better and lesser angels, coming from drawing from from lincoln and the like, but what did I say earlier Joe? I said investing that young man unseen He didn't have a bruise on and we think about it. You know as well as I do that we having a mental health that facility mexico. We knew mexico's. You couldn't speak english and she was at our peril. Kids call the police she's dead. who's. Our man remember a couple of years back he's on the ground hands up, they shot him while he was on the ground.

Of the police arresting that young man and seeing that he didn't have a bruise on, and we think about it all. Seventy five year old woman who was having a mental health at risk in the totality of who we are that we are by definition, evil and bad. our man remember couple years back, he's We know in this society data day that the way in which we live, the society data day that the way in which we live our lives raised organised disadvantage met We can't do them over if we don't admit who we actually are in this current moment. It seems to me I know you want to say something like having Joseph. I just want to. I just want to say finishing with eddie and going to you my guess. I mean this is this ourselves. Otherwise, if we dull emitted, then we can do with. Second, the just like a chapter revelations demand that we ought to

we have to stay helpful as a nation and what I always talk about. But I talk about whether we're talking about politics or whether we are talking about the war. We always to put things in context and keep it in context cause. If you don't keep things in context, you can either become too over confident after victory or and become too discouraged during Full information, putting things in context. We, I to remember ok about politics or whether we are talking about the war. We always have to put things in context and keep it in contact. The context is, if you don't keep things in context, was quoting become too or confident after victory or you can become too discouraged during dark. dark terrible times like this and putting things in context. We believe since nineteen sixty five. I know. the evidence is all there moving in that direction-

no John mitchell, always clubs, mortal always, quoting, I believe, over the past five years to say we've taken a detour yeah. Well, if you're back for a woman that is an device, the courage to live in europe if you're black, if you're brown, if you're hispanic, if you're muslim, yes, The evidence is all there. We ve been moving in that direction, made a long long way to go, but unfair and you're, proud to be an american sore yeah. Well, if you're back woman rather than already dynamic origin I hope, here's your black if you're in the political fight to change selfish, to make things better, if your white and you love this kind, direction, while less the fight to have to the political fight, can be an american. You are also very discouraged about what s happened over the past five years, but I hope I hope-

the greatest country that God ever created in done more good in the world and all the other nations combined. So to make things better to keep us moving mike today have whole pope that their children will do better in this country than they have done. They still retain that hope, but the the language that's employed these this is the greatest country, the god ever created in this done war good in the world and all the other nations combined. So I have hope and and The problem that we're dealing with is a culture. I mean, do better in this so permission for some done both when they hear others public people talking things that are slowly again destroying this country, the hatred, the rip agora of language on key, we assume they have the permission to talk

then that's part of the problem that we are dealing with is a culture. I mean this is so permission for some people black and members of congress who stay. The tree, the hatred, the replacement theory talk, may assume they have the permission don't say flat out wrong. Murder. Quite true it grows and two willie's very important point about the report. Very little. If nothing there, it is a real part of the problem. Now I don't even want to mention the guy's name, the former guy, who was in the oval office for years, but this country, at some point, is going to have to deal with the damage that he has done to this country. To orange the tuitions

very little if nothing. That is a real part of the problem. Now I don't even want to mention the guy's name, the former guy, who was in the oval office of four years, but this country at some point, is going to have to deal with the damage that he has done its country to our institutions, to our language, the language we employ in describing things the combination don't think about the country. They think about illegal cowardice and money pouring into elections to keep these people alive has resigned.

the other piece of this that has to be in the conversation that was different a generation ago is social media and the internet. This kid was sitting home alone during the pandemic radicalized this hatred that may already have been there for him. He was given community by what he was reading online and saying: oh, yes, the ideas you have are legitimate and we need to go fight for those and then he was able, of course, at eighteen to go out and buy a high powered semiautomatic rifle to kill those people buying groceries in a store hi, I'm Tom llamas, and for me the news is so much more than a headline he didn't forbes inspires and it still matters to cover you have to be getting and that's what my show is going to do will take you to the front lines of the story where it's actually happening with NBC news journalists on the ground from all over the world. We cover what you need to know and bring your news feed to live in primetime and streaming live each. Your new playlist join for top story. Weeknights at seven eastern on NBC news now