Hilary- and I are profoundly shot on the tragedy today in littleton to southern california, by the news of the shootings at virginia tech, roseburg oregon it's an elementary school and knew no limit texas, parkland florida michigan. The prayers of the american people are with you. We are paying for them. Learn I and many across our nation, our entire nation,. With one heavy heart- aid for the victims and their families, and it's not just littleton. We know We ve had lots and lots and lots of places. We have been through this too many times for many years too many decades. Now as I said, a few months ago- and I said a few months before that- and I said each time we see, one of these mass shootings are thought and prayers are not enough school, should be places a safety and sanctuary in learning approach now

wood, up to the dimensions of this challenge if it could have but in a place like littleton and we could. anything like this from happening again and now president Biden once again joins its predecessors and what has become a sick ritual of addressing the nation after a horrific mass shooting inside an american school. This was this from the white house yesterday The latest massacre in texas american flags were also lowered at federal buildings, military installations and that eu embassies around the world look alive to texas in just a moment at the latest, in the investigation into the shooting from and bees, is tom winter? All coming up later, this outwards a major political story out of georgia, where yesterday's primary elections, where the clearest repudiation to date by republican

Voters of former president donald trump governor Brian camp ran away with his election, defeating David Purdue by more than fifty points, trump essentially hand picked former senator purdue to try to defeat governor camp tromp even suggested republicans boat for democrats, stacy abrams overcome all that. did not work. Also, yesterday secretary state brad reference burger won his primary election against trump endorsed congressmen. Jody heist, reference burger west of one trump, was caught on tape, asking to find the exact amount of votes they would need to defeat Joe I'm in may twenty raffles berber, bead congressmen highs, who backed the big lie by nearly twenty points. We

I have much more ahead on this huge political story, Steve cranach. He will be at the big board at the half hour willing to bet all pales in comparison, though, to nineteen children, nineteen children and two teachers dead now after yesterday's shooting at a texas, elementary school, the attack and you've all day about eighty miles west of san Antonio is the second deadliest school shooting in american history. Behind the one at sandy hook nearly a decade ago, the texas department of public safety dps says there are more victims, both children and adults in hospitals. This morning, investigators believe the eighteen year old, suspect, shot his grandmother at her home. Then fled crashing his truck in a ditch near rob elementary school just before noon. Central time his grandmother is in critical condition. This morning a dps trooper described what happened next. Two nb c's morgan chesky

point the government made entering into a school and complete disregard for human life. Just an evil person started, shooting kids, anybody that was in his way teachers had no regard for human life, just walking through the school opening fire right. At that point, we do know that he was armed with some type of long rifle was trying to determine exactly what type of rifle how he obtained that we do have a t f b. I here on scene working with us trying to make those determinations, but once he made entry to the school, he continued shooting children, teachers, anybody that was in his way cooper also says, a school resource officer to police officers from the city be while they fired at the suspect who was where body armor, but the officers had to get back up from a technical team. Ultimately shot and killed. The gunman the state senator says he was told by texas rangers the gum and bought to assault style rifles from a store, and you ve all day on his eighteenth birthday,

that's just over a week ago, and NBC news has not independently confirmed that specific detail The strangers are leading the states investigation in you ve all day. They are the primary investigators for the gps and typically handle high profile cases. We are now beginning to learn the names of some of the victims of the shooting. A family member tells our sister station in Dallas, fourth greater forth. yes desire. Garcia was among those killed, the father of nine year old. A merry Joe garza, also confirmed her death. Nelson from a family member ten year old, Xavier lopez was among those killed care eighty in san antonio reports, his mother was with them at an award ceremony just hours before this shooting one of the two teachers killed has been identified by a family member. She is eva, merrily ass. She was a teacher for seventeen years, most recently to fourth graters assured biography on the schools website. Notes she

The running hiking in biking, a family member, told the new york times that marine Ass was married and a mother, the other churchill has been identified as irma garcia, her biography, and this will website note. She was a fourth grade. Co teacher with miss marcellus, garcia leaves behind a husband and for children here with more in the investigation. Nbc news investigations corresponded tom inter also with as the host of way too early Jonathan, the mere these away house bureau chiefs at political and its embassy contributor, MIKE barnacle and new york times, washington bureau chief Elizabeth viewed miller time. Let's start with you and what we know about the shooter, how we got the gun and what happened yesterday right still trying to figure out those details and specifically when these guns and purchase they do all appear at this initial

the time as we sit here and talk about this to have been purchased legally. As you mentioned, his birthday was on, may sixteenth, born may sixteen two thousand and four so within the last eight or nine days, or so these weapons were purchased legally in the state of texas. The long run, the the long gun that is described they're, not particularly clear, the the make and model. At this point, one thing that is perfectly clear as we've come to know all too well to these shootings. Is that the impact of those guns that fire a bullet at a very high velocity on kids is especially especially damaging, and we heard last night the parents were lining up in to provide dna to positively identify those children itself.

Because they forget, but the faces of their kids look like. So I think that underscores the tremendous amount of violence that occurred at that school yesterday I went back and did somebody I hope I've never had to do. Last night, which is review my notes on new town, including the report there, it's important for people to know just how quickly and how fast the amount death and damage that can occur. That was ten minutes for them Adam lands of first fired to them. that he killed himself that that It was over and we saw what happened. There is a very difficult scene to process. So I think at this point thinking to try to figure out the timeline we mentioned new town, not only because of the amount of students that are dead, but also because

its purely similar to what happened with Adam lands where he shot his mother and then went to the school and carried out that attack. As you mentioned, willie there was a shooting of his grandmother yesterday. She is believed to still be alive, at least as of this. Our obviously gonna be critically important to talk to her, to try to figure out any sense of what the motive is here, but no motive that law enforcement can can offer us there's nothing that we can find on line that we might find later today or of hosting later today. They could possibly provide any sort of justification for what we saw yesterday, yeah. You know we bob We've been through this so many times we were through this With buffalo pass, so of course you talk about new town, and we know these mass killings continue working here. The same thanks www from republicans that well

our thoughts and prayers and rhythm, we'll get here from republicans fist, the cost of freedom. we're gonna hear from Republicans there's enough, we can do about. It does is theirs thing we can do about it. Why? If you pass this piece of legislation well, won't do anything about that shooting and if you pass another piece of legislation that won't do anything about this other shooting. We also, something really grows from the same people who will sweetly sake, to find any crime that an illegal emigrate causes and then run it on their tv network for twenty four hours a day. It's we're time to talk about this. Is it then? sir cowards there, such cowards and, of course, they don't want to talk about it. Just cite january, the six like the focus group they want you to forget about it. They one is to every one was what was all right time to talk about nine eleven

Oh, I don't know a year later now a pretty damn the time about nine eleven would have been a nine eleven when it was happening on nine twelve. How did this happen on nine thirteen? Let's make sure this ever happens again, but these four, well they're not fools. They know exactly what to do to bees barbarians, they get on tv and they say oh Let's not talk about it now. As five six seven eight nine ten eleven year old kids now in our schools, from town to taxes. we're getting gunned down by military weapons. so mutilated. That their moms in dad's can't even recognize Their faces.

in Washington does nothing age Joe mansion afternoon turn you did something or I do something jump. I'm tired, we're friends, I'm just gonna, tell you you're old routine about it's. Always this person, or it's always that picture. Why don't you get out front somethin for once in five years and start talking about what you can do, Instead of a cat ducas, all you we'll talk about is what you can do. You're a Democrat, the gap, this right after new town, a new pushed with tat to me and pushed then, on background checks, you need to do that again. Ninety percent of american support background checks. The person that I was the thirds of americans, military style weapons. Almost two thirds of americans overwhelming number of americans support

safety laws because Where's will not pass, but here's the thing it's not just that what makes it worse is not what congress is not doing. What exit worse is what faint legislators are doing There is a race to the bottom. We saw it in abortion were thirteen year old girl could get raped and is forced to carry the rapists baby full time. basically ending her life as she knows it. We're taxes. And other states are racing to the bottom florida racing to make sure you can get a gun without training. You can get a gun without Permit you can just go by a guy in the open, carry it this is insanity. You know says this is insanity guns honours. N r, a members

gone honours like myself. people that understand the power of a gun and want to use. Gonna. Have a gun responsibly did understand. You need to go to the rage. You need to practice. If going to have a gun in your home for protection. You need You need to know What you have these republicans race to the bottom, but bake. Let's not eighteen year old, get guns their birthday, go by to military style, weapons on their birthday and take em. three, the sort of a meaningful legislation away regulation safeguards away, and why do we I think ninety percent of americans do think fifty percent of americans want an eight, in year kid just turned eighteen one. Be able to go out

and by to military style, weapons to open, carry other states to get going without a permit? It is insanity, and this state republic and, let me be very clear: a gay republican sir, legislators. This is what, doing and they are doing it, but the overwhelming number of americans oppose it, and my barnacle you know now is brought me the strange that yeah These people, who were firstly for law enforcement officers, except when their side was beat, were beating the hell out of cop on january, the sex and. When police officers at eight, we had a cool website, the military style weapons, we get a cool it with a

that the body armor, we get a cool it with piercing bullets suddenly these republicans well, I know now, that's that's an infringement of our freedom like these people think little kids getting gun down in school. Well, that's just the cost of freedom. These are by the way, the same people that wouldn't work. a piece of paper over their mouth a pandemic. They killed a million americans. There really there is. There is no other, no other word that describes them Radical, maybe dangerous, immoral that it all fits and by the way, I'm doing this the day after because you know what go back and listen to my the weather said the day after january, the sixth day four september eleventh know this,

The time to talk the cowards don't want is to talk to people who are defending the gunmakers dont want, is to talk to people who are in fact putting the guns into the hands of these mass murders. Don't want is to talk. You know, Now is the time to talk and it's time for us to take our country back peacefully but it is time that we take america. Take it back peacefully, from these state legislators you're turning our classrooms. Churches. our country, music, festivals,. in the killings zones MIKE you know Joe everything that you just said: We just did we just said, it nine days ago, Because of buffalo would who killed, because of their skin color in the supermarket

and today we are doing it again. And I don't know whether any of us here will be able to get through the morning without cry honestly You just have a graduation Joe this weekend, your daughter graduated from high school, all of us. Of children. Here I remember third, fourth, fifth grade parents, nice going to school and the children or so giddy. When you came on said. Naturally, all I was told you're the best kitten, the clash of the smartest given the class and I was thinking last nine about the forensics teams that go into that school. tom winter mentioned- I know to members of different sixteen were it new town, They have never been the same, never been the same, I can guarantee. Today members of the swat team in the forensics team down an evolving texas will never be the same as will obviously none of the poor. once the parents

What teams and this nation we say will never be the same for them have to ask ourselves the question we know who the enemies are the enemies of the hypocrites scoundrels who stand up in the united states Senate. who did last night and talk what a tragedy it is, and we must all pray for the survivors and the families are going to need our support and our prayers, and then they actively work against progress in terms of trolling, the distribution of guns in this country. They are cowards We know that then there is the rest of us, we're all in shock here today because of what happened but They come in Nord too, kind of shock because it happened so often so it's almost as if my god Children killed in an hour military school forth in

If graders and we pause- and we say to the red sox when last night, and we go on whether our lives in the night this assault on us this assault, this attack our country, going on with people in public life. Doing very little. Later on. We're gonna have senator crisp murphy from connecticut I assume more players. Clare, absolutely, on the second floor was a basketball. ouch steve car gold state warriors head coach, whose, Other was assassinated when he was. A diplomat in lebanon, given it friendly strong statement, bout his feelings about what happened. This lingers for many people, but doesn't linger enough from most people

and now we are raising again the question we talk about just a few days ago- why we really and by the way it is it's always and us against them thing for these people that want to take the most extreme position, that ninety percent of americans oppose and yet somehow we can't get gun safety legislation that ninety percent of americans support her right here's the thing I mean I'm gonna, have have more than one guy not afraid of guns who up around him I have make a grew up around them, We ve had a men, are houses, and Is a thing? So if you, if you have an if you have grown up around gunners,

and all you do is listen the jack his on tv that take the floor and too throughout freedom. After little kids get done if you haven't grown up around gunners like I did in first bad, this church and ready, mississippi and first discharge and shambley, georgia and first bad this church in Pensacola florida. Let me tell you what gone honours say about things like this. Well do person don't need one of those guns to kill their debts not an a c l. U, member! On the upper west side, that's what you would always here on Sunday mornings after these killings. You look at the numbers and our aim, members of the overwhelming majority of our members want backgrounds, Ex expanded dramatically, lot of Republicans what

rid of these military style weapons. This isn't sanity and its insanity that only happens in america. western democracies. Only in america. Do we have These mass killings repeated over and over and over you know tell us we can't do anything about it. You're, the weakest, most feckless they like liars to say we can do something about it. We and do something about it It's just one step at a time, but we need to start moving in that direction and instead, We're going in the opposite direction. On the federal Level on this level on the local level it somebody, but will you know my barnacle said talked about

how are the daughter graduated from high school this past week, Fred berger. He lives about about south. To me, Friends daughter would have graduated this past week, Jamie she's my daughter's age and all the things we did all the things that fact ways of cancer graduating, on the contrary, Jane. You would have genuine a dime shares my daughter's age I think she would have graduated they sure. Maybe last year may this year, but me The human toll of this

and is, as present buying said. I thought you did an extraordinary job last night. And I really do. I feel sorry for those who actually saw that and were surely forced to say nothing really shitty about him every day did it, That's how they make their money, it really makes me really sad for them. there there that dark of us all that their that twisted, but they did. All over the internet, all over tv, is twisted people, but. This present Biden said last night: the carnage. Not only this american conjure Donald, you get that one right, that one right this is american carnage brought on by you and your party present bind was right. This impacts not just the parents, in the most horrific of ways,

it destroys the lives of brothers of sir stirs up. Friends of neighbours of answer ankles grandparents communities, its violence against entire families in time, communities in thai just entire well being your country and you look at these individual cases like fred we're gonna be talking to later on data. at the graduation get the marriage. Get the grand kids veto get alive playing out. Naturally, the way it's supposed to play out this keeps happening and yes keeps happening, because the legislators and the republican party are cowards They won't even do the things they know. They're supposed to do- and I say this again:

the border of the second amendment, before Heller's and the second amendment supposed to mean what the second amendment says. We have a right keeping bear arms military style weapons lame a ground jocks like an eighteen year old kids go out and buy weapons. for years before they can have a sip of beer legally willie. It's just crazy, and blood in the streets? There's blood in classrooms. There is blind in country music concerts. There are blood and churches and synagogues the cause of these craven politicians. Two fred Guttenberg it just about an hour, and we saw those pictures of his beautiful, talented daughter, Jamie and it does break your heart and there's more of that heartbreak and devastation in lives shattered and you ve a texas this morning, august

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There are two NBC news: correspondent carry sanders, carry what is the latest down there and this investigation, and what are you saying in hearing as you arrive in town well known,

slept overnight normally, that might have been because of the rain, the lightning and the thunder, but because nineteen children were killed here to adults. I think what you probably here from fred, but you know I covered what happened in portland, and this is not something that just touches the family members of those victims. Here this touches every body. There are people in parliament today who still have ptsd that we're not even at the school that day. This, like many communities, is at its height nick community people, know each other and so you're going to have the reverberations of this, not for the next week as people search for answers, but that this will continue in many cases for a lifetime. So what people want to know right now is why that is always the question. Why the

forty short here they did not sleep over night, they have been at the location at the elementary school they ve been looking for evidence. They ve been making sure that they are going through all the forensics to see what it might tell them. The alcohol tobacco firearms agents have been researching to find out details about the weapons that he had a pistol and what we believe is a long weapon may have been an assault. Weapon may have been one of those two weapons that he purchased on his birthday when he turned eighteen years old. Recently, the authorities later today are likely to hold a news conference whether they can answer those questions we don't know. We do know that they want the answers, but this may be

well edited oil for reporter on the scene. I don't think there really can be an answer as to why somebody takes a gun goes into a school and she just begins shooting young children, but we want to know why, because we want to see, if perhaps this is what you'll hear from politicians today you'll hear from community members, we want to hear if we can understand. Why can we solve the problem from happening again just heard Joe going over one after another after another, so now family members will come to grips with the loss of children. There will be great Carl source. You already met with them yesterday, continuing to meet with them today, holding hands, try to give them may be submitted. patient to sleep, waking up from this nightmare likely now happen and at the the day, a community,

rubber changed. I will say that I've never heard of involving texas, but now this will be a town that will be for ever known in the same way that parliament was discovered the rest of the nation, because one of the worst thing that could happen, I'm hopeful as we hear from the authorities later today, they haven't given us a specific time of when they're going to give us a news conference. I'm hopeful that, while they give us certain information, we tell us things that cost what may not want to know, we may not want to know because, as we look at the pictures of these nineteen, over and it's so hard because he's a real people, but what we hear from the authorities, the question you're there they have them listening and then I guess as you stated so well. All this morning what are the answers to prevent this from happening again, guys,

nineteen children with just a couple of days left in their school year, getting ready for summer being dropped off at school. Just under two, four hours ago, and now, you're sitting there in front of a crime scene and indices, carry sanders. Vivaldi, Texas carried, will be back to throughout them. well. I just move forward turned to present abiding and in these nineteen children, and there may be more. We don't know what final toll will be just think about us there second third enforce waiters. We all know what that's like that, such an exciting time for parents and for children. They were about to go full into their summer nineteen of them between seven and ten years old, this is the largest school shooting, since sandy hook and like buffalo, a good I was gone nothing compared to apply an incomplete body armor with to us weapons walking thrust Well, that's not an argument that can be made knight

children are gone this morning, you're right there was a hardened school. They had ass, a resource officer of retired police officer, likely there clue exchange fire. There were to play esops from the city all day, exchanging fire. They couldn't get to them because of that body. Armor of ridiculous arguments keep up with the actions of russian president. Vladimir Putin's military in its war of aggression to keep up with the insurrection was a blatant attempt to use force to destroy american democracy, and the rule. Keep up with the supreme court is fundamentally reactionary. Institution in american life has been for most of it, keep up with what matters keep up with grants all in with Chris Hayes weeknights at eight eastern on MSNBC, and why is this happening? The Chris Hayes podcast new episodes every tuesday wherever you get your podcasts these days. The news never stops the morning

headlines changed by afternoon and by the end of the day, it's all totally different. So, let's get into it what's happening right now, what it all means for you for an hour every day I get it. I know that it can be hard to keep up. So let's get started together and go from there: hey I'm Ali jackson and we have a ton going on tonight. Here's the deal jackson now weekdays at five pm eastern on NBC news. Now, about president Biden. He was on air force, one returning home from his trip to asia. When this massacre happened in texas, the white house treated this photo, as president Biden spoke of texas greg abbot to offer the president's assistance, then last night the President emotionally addressed the nation I'd hoped When I became present, I would not have to do this again.

Another massacre val di texas. Another major school beautiful in this second third or fourth graders and how many scores children who witness what happened? see the french. a battlefield for god's sake, the rest of their lives, there's a lot. We don't know yet what we do now Appearance, you'll, never shooter child again haven't jump in cutaway.

Turkey will never be the same. To lose a child like here in a piece of your soul ripped away. There's a losing your chest. You feel like you're, being sucked into it never going to be able to get out suffocating, It's never quite the same who severely shared. Why the symbolism, grandparents, family members in the community, this up behind, as a nation, we have to ask when, in god's name, realistic, Up to the gun lobby when, in god's name We do. We all know- and I got needs to be done. three hundred and forty three thousand four hundred forty eight days,

Ten years since I stood up at a high school connecticut, Integration in connecticut or another government massacred, twenty six people, including twenty first creators, sandy hook elementary school. Since then, they ve, been over nine hundred incidents gun fired working on school grounds marjory, stoneman Douglas high school in parkland florida, santa fe, high school in texas, oxford high school in Michigan, This goes on and on and on this grows. when you include mass shootings in places like movie theater, thousands of worship. As we saw just ten days ago, the grocery store buffalo new york I am sick and tired of it. We have to act and don't oh me, we can have an impact on this carnage.

I spent my career senator vice president working press, common sense gun was weak. Will prevent every tragedy but we know they were and have positive We pass it's all weapons ban. mass shootings went down when the logs hard mass shootings tripled idea that relate to neo kid, walk into a gangster invite to assault weapons. What's wrong. What in god's name, you need to solve for accepting, kill someone. Durant running through the forest, with large vessels. For god's sake, it's just sick The gun manufacturers are spent two decades aggressively. Marking is all weapons which make them the most enlarges profit for cars,

sake. We have the courage to stand up to the industry. What struck me Was these kinds of measures is rarely happen anywhere else in the world? Why? They have mental health problems there dimension disputes in other countries. They are people who are lost but these kinds of nationalities never happened, the kind of frequency happen in america. Why, Why are we willing to live with this carnage? We keep let this happen. In god's name is our backbone. Is it do stand up the lobbies Time to turn this pain into action for every pair for every. Since this country, we have to make it

weird every elected freshness country, it's time to act time for them to obstruct or delay the count since gone laws, we need to let you know that we will not forget. We can do so much more. We have to do more. Our prayer tonight night parents. Lying in bed trying to figure out, will I be able to sleep again? What do I say to my other children? what happened to the more. God bless the loss of innocent life on the same day,. May Lord be near the broken hearted save those crushed in spirit.

we certainly need a lot of our prayers. God we get this Joe Biden at his most effective, strongest most moving. He showed compassion, but He also shed righteous anger. The quote I'm sick and tired of it. We have to act and don't tell me- if we can't have an impact on this carnage. I would guess he spoke for about eighty percent. Ninety percent of americans there. Yes, he did and it was hard not to feel it in your core and new parallel that moment with the president and his options at hand with this week and the inner raise annual summit. It's called the legislative action leadership forum and they have a lot of high profile guests question is: will they go? What will they talk? What exactly is the legislative action they are pushing for? At this point,

Elizabeth view, miller I turn to you, though, about president Biden did made the moment and water. options yes well, he certainly met the moment. I was just watching that again just now and he obviously spoke and it was an ad libbed. He didn't stick to the prepared remarks. He spoke from the heart. He spoke as no other president has been able to about. It was obviously reflective of his own loss of a daughter who was killed Our crash and his son bow who died reveres ago, and so he speaks from the heart about the pain and that the fifth feeling in your chest he was also. I thought it was very interesting that the very religious what he talked about may the lord be near those who have endured this because they're going to need it, it was it was It was over very religious further for the president to say that and was also a course of scores struck by the fact that he said on the way back from his to asia. He reflected about how so many other countries have been mental health.

problems? They have lost souls, they have domestic violence domestic. Boots, but no other country, like the united states, has a number of us has the kind of gun violence and we do, and act is that there are four hundred million guns, united states. The number of guns manufactured since Two thousand here has tripled because of of as of actions via state legislatures by the congress by the supreme court, and, as you pointed out, you know, a gun. Violence went up after the assault. Weapon span expired in two thousand, for so I When I was, I think he did meet the moment. He touched all those issues he spoke for the majority of americans, according to the polls and his options are limited. His options or on the hill senator shimmer is introducing in areas where there is a gun, control. Legislation legislations passed the house last year.

The gist of background basic background check legislation. This. Center issuers and bring up again in the Senate right now. There are enough the votes. There are not the republican votes to pass it on trustingly enough. Yesterday, there's republican centres I tell crews spoke out of the violence and decry the the shooting and yet there was no mention of any kind of legislation and any kind of solution, and at this point, occurs is still apparently going to be an hour, a summit. This weekend, that summit Jonathan mere scheduled to speak from the present trump senator ted crews of taxes and the governor of texas, gregg abbot, senator crew, said last night. You see democrats lot of folks in the media, whose immediate solutions to restrict the constitutional rights of law abiding citizens- that's a female will, probably here, but back to your boy. and president Biden

it's sort of this as we have this conversation? Every time is one of these horrific mass shootings, which is do something. What that need to him. What is this something that can be done? We know that majority leader schumacher last night. It introduced the idea of taking this legislation has been sitting in the house to tighten up background checks. Is there it is for that, as president believe there is, or first on their energy convention. We should note Two hundred and seventy eight miles like events that are used to that school for these children were slain just up and they're gonna have the metal detectors no firearms allowed inside. If you go on their website, it's quite something, yes deserve a very excited to talk about. All there are legislative desires than they were.

make sure nobody brings their weapons inside as of yesterday afternoon, all these attendees- you just mentioned, still slated to go this weekend. I will see if that changes we heard from the president yesterday. He obviously, as we've talked about, sadly had reason to talk about a lot. He speaks about grief that are more eloquently than any other american politician of his time in part, informed by his own experiences, losing a one, two children, one as one as a baby, and then his both as an adult, and then he pivoted, though, halfway through from grief to anger in real frustration, core another quote, is wearing its aim is our backbone, the frustration wondering. Why can this not be done? White house aides, I've talked to say, look they're, examining some executive orders and executive actions. We've seen some from the president before there are probably some a little more that can be done on things like ghost guns, but these are these. Small, relatively piecemeal things my, such changes can only come through legislation to imagine democratic senator, has said he will not be willing to change, to filibuster, forgot

control legislation. Therefore, it's not going to happen. The sense that centre cinema probably would join him in that. So therefore, that's not an avenue, and we know republicans almost to a person are in opposition to this as well, and there, the the obstructionist here they have been throughout ongoing control legislation, so There will be about we're not gonna, go anywhere. There doesn't seem much can be done and that field residents anger yesterday, because another tragedy, like this other school tragedy, and yet america won't change. It will doesn't I want to say by the way it is important. I just wanna, I was going to say again we're we're gonna, hear liars, on tv? We're going your liars get on the Senate floor there going twist. Second amendment and what it means I read the words out of their contacts. Twitch it a twist, beyond any any

actual constitutional, meaning that it has constitution of the united states of america. The second amendment, If you read heller, not extend beyond institutional right eighteen year olds again and by military style. Weapons are fifteen's, I ask if you're on twitter do got twitter feed and look at an article from nineteen eighty, one that James fallows wrote about the testimony of the man who who who designed the a r fifteen talking about how that style of gone was made because it for more deadly, far more effective in killing people in war then the weapons that were being used in vietnam. It is

a guy that he specifically designed to kill people most effectively the most effective way on Battlefields, more light weight, the smaller caliber does more damage with it, goes into human flesh and that vat an eighteen year old being able to go and buy two way, our fifteen's on his eighty the birthday and use that weapon of war again second graters that's is not keeping that gun out of the hands of killers. Vat that was strictly the constitutional rights of against any You're too, stale bread, the their stand. That

then Google, heller, h e l, l e r and read it, and one other thing to we're. Gonna have chris murphy on after town, republicans and dim rats alike and the connecticut legislature, the most expansive gun safety law, probably the most expansive in america white, the supreme court still hasn't overturned. Fourteen years later, do you know why. Because there is no constitutional right under the second amendment according to the united states constitution and that constitution, as interpreted by this conservative supreme court,

two by military style weapons when you are eighteen years old when you're twenty eight years old, when you're thirty, eight years old when you're fifty eight years up vat is not constitutionally protracted. And so when I hear jackass is get on tv or going on the second floor of the house for saying that, just now They are liars, they're lying to you they're lying to their constituents they're, lying to everyone who listens, and that is not an opinion that is a matter of constitutional law that, as a matter of case law, that is a matter of fact. So trust me most people that stand up and enter a convention they're going to be lying through their teeth, also

just so gun manufacturers continue to make millions and millions and millions of dollars selling weapons of war to paranoid scared. Americans do I to be lied to by the nr a john owners of amerika and republic, and the members of the house and the senate and its legislators and governors mansions? I wonder wonder if governor rabbit is still embarrassed that taxes, not the number one gun buying stayed in amerika to number two when he said he was deeply ashamed by that date, come on, don't buy more guns. Texans is what it says. It is.

It is absolutely sick, make up. There is a huge purchases by the way in which we can get you in just a moment, a baton winter I want you to zoom in two, has been looking at this broad hideous picture on the issue of a good guy with a garden, and this could be scribe. Does an arms race between law enforcement and First, I think there's, but all a whole host of things are very, very disturbing the last couple of weeks when we look back at the buffalo shooting, certainly the mode of their of white supremacy and hate in when we look at the shooting- and we see the deaths of nineteen children, but one of the things that I know, law enforcement is going to be focused on one of the things that we're focused on in our reporting is the idea that in both instances you had people that were confronted by a by somebody who is arm in the buffalo case.

Retired police officer working as a security guard. Yesterday, multiple officers were shot and wounded in the course of this. So it's not as if somebody was met with a challenge. It wasn't as if these were just coop italy unguarded places in now you're in a situation that that school safety officer, whose we all know is this part time, counselor parttime, parent parttime, pull sulphur officer whose there did that now that they have the fire that they have the nine millimeter, the forty five millimeter and professor they have may no longer be enough to meet the challenge of the person who is coming to that school to kill kids. Because you have somebody with body armor you have somebody with is joe minced of military style weapon firing. A bullet is extremely high, velocity designed to destroy People's bodies, in so that's the situation that you have. I think all of this things that Joe mentioned the things have been talked about this morning, are all coming, due to a next here. You know, after nine eleven people sat down long for

when academics politicians. What do we need to do in to tell you that we can try to preserve some rights, and I know some rights were taken away as result of nine eleven a. But what can we do? fatality to try to at least address this issue there here's to be no desire, not only firm, legislation and I'm not a politics reporter and that's all you actual jays, but there doesn't it here to be this idea of getting everybody in the room in saying common sense things do we need to do, because it is entirely possible that over the next couple hours and days we will look back at the shooting and say with, the confines of the laws that we have. There was nothing illegal, that this person did up until the moment they fired the shots in. So how do you find out if somebody's gonna do this ahead of time? How do you prevent this type of happening. We're not me having really that discussion into town

At this point- and I think that's the thing- that's so concerned more good guys with guns. If a politician gives you that answer just now for the record, that is not a legitimate answer anymore. Just for revenge, not he and business news investigations corresponded tom winter. Thank you very much and so I had a morning Joe much more on the texas school shooting, including that emotional sound, that barnacle mentioned senator Chris Murphy's plea for action on gun violence, he'll be our guest this morning and golden state warriors head coach, Steve cares. Impassioned message for members of congress also had this morning were breaking down the biggest primary results out of georgia and the stinging rebuke republican voters dealt donald trump yesterday you're watching morning, Joe we'll be right back

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