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President Vladimir Putin sought to justify his war in Ukraine on Monday

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she is showing off its military might its annual victory day parade even as moscow struggles to get a military victory in ukraine will tell you what Vladimir Putin had to say about the war or perhaps more importantly, but he did not say. We also saw a major humanitarian success over the weekend as all of the civilians inside that stage, steel plant and marry a pole have been a vacuum it, but the remaining fighters vowed to stay until the end. First lady Joe Biden makes an unannounced visit inside ukraine appearing alongside Ukraine's first lady who made first public appearance since the invasion began, will show as I was incredible moments plus present I'd and tries to put a stop to the leaks about: u s: intelligence sharing with ukraine, So this morning who saw this, coming the aid
One law shaw too wide a why? What are they it upsets one of the biggest upsets of churchill. Downs is stunner, but the the the ride yeah I mean. I watched it five six seven times after from above it just was extraordinary performance. an extraordinary horse, yeah and writer, and to end jockey the kentucky entering when our my god incredible will talk to two people who did see this coming. The owner and trainer of rich strike will be our guests later. The sour and just think, I'm writing morning. This horse, not in the race for a lot of the rays having they bought for thirty thousand dollars already granted torches seals not so long ago and was not in the race got in the race, with thirty by thirty minutes before deadline It was on the outside, pose there's no way aid in one corner I his big boy
I blew off just to just get a new one. It was unbelievable that fake investment was they say it was a shock. Jonathan mirror. You know what was not a shock right. Well here we are now we get to see red stripe that gets worse. Rich strike is in the back and now look at the pack of horses, I have to go through again, this eighty two wine, odd and, of course, epicenter you're, showing at the front. That's why they're all tat can about bizarre centre was favouring the race, and so there was actually a race down the stretch illegally. he finds its way to the post. Edges rides proposed now every, club, the middle east is widening the post flying and then This also goes for the ride. Isn't that amazing that little right there and if you see it at ground level, terrorists? No,
no one saw you just saw you just sort of screamed, rich strike. No body expected this coming. I say this in the most one for where you could tell outwards a horse little crazy. And all the right way ways you are. Wars have been crazy ways when he's gotta get through twenty one other horses and get to been eighty one. I have asked that was crazy and inspiring almost is inspiring jonathan or mere as the red sox bullpen. This we can. So, let's talk about foe. Let's talk about vladimir Putin. At this space did he gave rise to steady talk about expanding? This war, the nato jonathan earlier now, if we build war, value is going to need it didn't talk about liking, banning it back and going in the key by any chance No, I didn't do that. Either that either. Do you talk about?
spillage adoption of nuclear tactical nuclear weapons on the battlefield, nope. Did you talk about? Oh, I don't know that their data compare russian army failures to the failures in the Boston, red sox, bullpen night after night after night after day after night I mean- would have been an appropriate comparison, but now he left out one idea What did you did you thinking that we strike I did not first of all, enrich strike there for let's, let's, let's just take one more second, the the horse fly at the speed and that overhead shot is remarked what I'd like he watched it a dozen times or more him coming up the rail and then the cut back through the pack like an nfl running back being able to pivot through the horses and then with the blazing speed down the stretch.
one of the great races that storied motivated protected europe has ever seen. Willie really incredible. As far as a potent goes. No, despite some recent media hype, this actually is what you are sufficient had expected all along, and my colleagues and I wrote this a few weeks ago that, though had been some thought that Putin might use today to announce this was full scale war? He might today two announced some sort escalation in different parts of ukraine that he might use today to declare some sort of victory. He didn't any of those things. As your specials point out, he couldn't there is no way he could release equally sell any sort of win here. That's the conflict as a whole, but even if you don't even know any of them limited territorial success that the russians have had. He didn't mention ukraine by name because he doesn't recognise ukraine is a country did mention the don boss and he tried to use this speech simply to justify the invasion. But there,
No way for him to claim victory war have the ability to escalate Yeah well we're we're we're going to get into the news story right now that we're not going to bring in richard haass. We hear him coughing right now begun clearing his throat, so we'll go to him. We're not going to go to him because we're talking baseball right now- and I don't want to hear a damn thing about the yankees. Were there so we're going to win we're going to go back over other horrible chain, though I hear this chain geyser, the genius. So boy are, you can really see it on the field every day, catch relationship, civil jamie sidney the horrible there, on looking at double checking here, the standing they are the most are at stake ten and nineteen ten nineteen there are ten games out ten it's it's the only five more stairs to standing here, we're only five or six weeks into the standing in the season. You can
when anything by early may, but you can sure lose it and it looks like the red sox an already had a wasp season. They got swept by the white socks this weekend. Tat was, while there are doing it, they can't page they can't hit the camp. field they can't replace Jonathan and so on, and so on. So my friend pay with paper bag. For him now see. This is a difference between the guy that was born in Boston. and somebody who became red sox fan in nineteen. Seventy five. I understand they could come back, but they're not gonna, be able to come back and less james starts making some moves made. This bullpen has been blowing apart since two thousand eighteen and they get where will we'll talk about this some other time, whatever side? Zander guys you want to bring the team together this test makes sense. Sign Zander now, you'll be shocked by what the and we can only one thing to say
Lucky strike is my dad was from Kentucky we rightly everywhere, but it's right. I don't know that. What did I say who never but anyway, so is so rich right minded from kentucky would wake up every morning derby day go first saturday, it may derby day and which would run down stairs and washed. It and I ve got to say other than this. It just me other than seventy three. When we saw little horse called secretariat, When I don't, I don't think I've ever seen a more exciting derby and count make edges followed of all on on what Jonathan was saying. You of course, up: writing horses writing horses too fast and far too dangerous. I've seen you standing up on pictures, with your hands up in the air over jobs. Out of your mind, but use
that move that they made down the stretch he he first of all, he cuts across horse as he gets on the pose the hugs oppose and he's going, but he's got one more horse to go around and you saw him just pull the raids go around in full. Gal up it was on. Spirea is incredible: riding em in its it was incredible. Riding we're gonna be doing foreign. This speaking to the trainer, coming up on morning chow, but let's talk about another kind of losing, since you are on this whole, loose significant, easy store, legal russia failure on the battlefield in ukraine. Don't stop moscow from flaunting its military might, as we ve been talking about the annual victory day, parade the bright colors rights. The silver victory over nazi germany and adjust rob in moscow red square. The celebration is taking on a new meeting this year, as Vladimir putin frames these invasion of ukraine. As a me,
to defeat wave of nazi fascism and will put that in quotes the new york times described the event as a claim of rightful dominance over a lost empire a day to galvanize public support for the war by slandering ukraine. As a successor to nazi germany, ukraine and president volodymyr Zelensky joined western europe yesterday to mark victory in Europe day. he also marked victory day today, saying in part very soon there will be two three days in ukraine's and someone danny? We won then, and we will win now and wishing to senior international correspond to cure summonses in moscow. This morning we should note russia is cracking down on journalists there, limiting what rob Worse can say under the threat of prison meant he filed this report.
The morning. It was a defiant speech from president putin here in red square. He rails against the west accused. following modern military equipment into you you did also say- the loss of its soldier is a tragedy for all of us and we will do everything to help the families one military unit Jeanne by here in red square chanted for dumbass president putin, One of the units here I'll come straight from the fighting in december every one of those marching we'll have colleagues in ukraine here this is victory day. patriotic gay across russia and here in red square. One man telling us here that is russia will be victorious in ukraine, a woman saying just like it nineteen, forty five, we won. We will win again back to you I thank you so much care richard highs.
the vast anyway. Why? Wouldn't we? Wouldn't you take from what we get to hear today? Also the times report last week that Putin is holding back on some of his deadly, more destructive tools at their that he could be using right now. wondering whether you I believe that putin is a bit more rational. Then we first expected are there very sad news irrational and whether he just finds himself a man who thought he was going to get away with something that the west finally, after twenty years, decided stop to think at first. I thought today's speech was dispirited It was almost as if he mailed it in it was short. Nothing new was flat did nothing new data and again he repeated the line basically of russia as victim this
something they had to do. He. It was almost once again to absolve himself of responsibility. That was this. This was, in fact, a war of choice when I took from it on the policy side is actually he's now simply hungering gown for along slug that this phase of the war is going to involve the mastering a large number of troops gonna, be single, decisive battle this week or next week, but this just now this is the new normal, so he wasn't prefer he wasn't promising anything new, no new expectations, justice actually getting ready for this long long battle? The siege, if you will to combat. Essentially, I was empty there. I venture to. How does he do that? That means, first of all, we hear that they may be running very short on guided munitions that that, obviously, the economic sanctions, while night replace them now. Certainly
put similar position. They don't want to be an. They obviously have their closest ally. Sign. who will likely grow more impatient overtime. How How does he drank this war out into a war of attrition over a year or two with all the economic sanctions and political sanctions attached, he's gotta, be a little bit disappointed Joe with china's help or lack of it. The chinese are clearly being careful, so they don't get caught up in the web of sanctions. a time when the sanctions that exists, the energy sanctions that are just been announced, we'll take a while to kick in they stood on affect gas, he's still we're getting hundreds and hundreds of million dollars a day. Did you really are this question of how long they can sustain tension, military encounters, a legitimate question. So one possibility is it's not that intense that this ship becomes a long for forbidden right now. The reason you won't sign a peace agreement here
to avoid anything that punctuate his losing. He doesn't to win you just ass did not lose in losing from would mean two things: a massive military rule dream, and he feels compelled to shine that what essentially acknowledge that he has one guess. As he's almost reversed things, almost like the gorilla, then the guerrilla war, he s going to try to win by by not losing. This just suggests to me along Loki strategy, Two richards point this. This become sorted this endless fighting on the outskirts of ukraine, where it it just sort of continue. For months and months and months well, it does, but richard talking about an off ramp here we are in may. and and still trying to figure out. I mean you ask you, ask the great question a of weeks. What do we want out of this war
getting what we want out of this war, we're going to have Finland most likely, a nato that was unthinkable two months ago. We're going to have swede that nato on things Two months ago, germany's gonna have a larger defence budget than russia on thinkable two months ago, you need a more united than it's been, probably the time since the early nineteenth sixties unthinkable a few months ago, the russian military exposed. as a third rate army should generational defeat. This is a generational defeat for russia on couple a few months ago, so that the west and by the way, the west? Yes, the west that we ve heard is declined. Since I was in sixth grade- and my teacher was telling me how we, the west wise, and we were collapsing in decline. It turns out that the west, actually is, far from it declined the west is stronger than ever, regardless of what the haters on the far right and the far left say:
democracy is stronger than ever and now, let's get a potent. What is it out? and this is something we have to figure out- this is the challenge that we have to face in the coming months. How do we help? lad a mayor tune get out of this corner. He is placed himself in because, It is not going to walk away from power. and we are not going to engage in regime change in russia. He has put himself in such a miserable position. Everything Madeleine albright said what happened before this war has now happened. Everything that you said what happened before the war has now happened so, How does this war and in a way that it does Vladimir putin in the corner going well. I bet nothing to lose? I might as well resort to chemical weapons. Are nuclear weapons
Well, I don't think he gets there if we simply have and indecisive stalemate and again, I think he can live with, not winning whether you just can't live with, is losing and again he'd lose either with a route. And the danger of the route as you and I have talked about. Is that could get them to think about escalating or he would lose if you have a formal peace agreement, the equivalent of the battleship Missouri in this case that would show once and for all, for example, that you had to accept an independent sovereign ukraine that, among other things, could join the the EU and that he wouldn't control certain chunks of real estate. I just don't think he can or will do that. So, if you, a losing hand. you don't want to walk away from the table that punctuated you just a game going, so my guess is putin now going to play for time a load keyed, open ended. The charge struggle for there's no you can say you los naked, say I didn't lose. This is still ongoing. We are going to prevail. He at least has the talking point and that's how I took this morning. He wasn't promising any near term victories. This was just
Now a low keyed open ended, armed struggle, and I think Could we call them, then the phrase Joe is frozen, conflict this become a low level frozen conflict with flare up every now and then- and I think this is become the new normal there. Well, you know far from people that wanted historical parallel korea comes to mind for me, after MC arthur's, extraordinary landing at in John, he starts moving north in north korea and starts thinking about the chinese border. And he in truman in fact, have a fight about how far arthur goes up and of course it eventually led to make there's firing. The chinese, of course win win, confront the possibility of an american beijing in china at a mass of counter offensive reset the entire war and ends than a mere. I know their people that want to see the united states go in
The no fly zone shoot down russian jets get a possibly drive them all the way in to russia. dangerous, dangerous territory. There I'm wondering How the out Joe Biden is feeling right now and may the night early may about some of those that somewhere, I got listen. I know everybody's excited, I know excited than that prudence aggression is being pushed back. What great american what pursue loves. American loves freedom wouldn't be excited about the fact that tyranny is on its as its heal. but again talk about the concerns of Biden has about the possibility of going too far. too much and it possibly ukrainians, continuing attacks, india, russia, which would open the door for
possible chemical or nuclear attacks against ukraine, or even NATO countries yeah. That escalation is simply not on the table. From the light ass there's no suggestion of a no fly zone, there's no suggestion of an offensive into russia. They are watching some of the ukrainian strikes across the border they're, watching with some concern to this point, certainly allowing them to to continue, there's also hope for the white house over the weekend. This is just a slow, steady process of cutting down. What pool can do we heard from the g seven yesterday they had a meeting re, reaffirming their commitment to end the use importation of russian oil. It's going to be faced it's not can be immediate, but eventually that will dry up some the fires. behind pollutants, war machine to the point on sanctions that, right now the this military, they need ships, they need equipment. Those things are made
elsewhere in the world. They don't have them their russia and, as the sanctions really kick in and they can't import those. That's gonna make it that much harder for the four moscow to continue with its offensive and weak. As a final point on the victory day, immigration today, one the things Putin did was late: flowers at the monuments, of course, She rose cities and will war to two of them cave and odessa. Citizen, you cry he is currently Shelly. yeah and once he wants and, of course, that's what your brother said, make it the beginning of this war. If you want an understand historically, why What potencies? When he looks to ukraine He says the old capitals of greater russia, odessa and Keith. Those are the cities you wants he's not getting cave. He may
We may continue trying to get odessa. Nostalgic fixation on those two cities over the weekend. Also, first lady Joe Biden maiden unannounced visits to ukraine yesterday during a trip to other parts of eastern europe. But need by ukraine's first lady, who was appearing in public for the future time since russia's invasion began doctor visitors school turned shelter in the war torn country heard trip was especially symbolic as it came on mother's day, a hollow filled with grief this year. As so, many ukrainians cope with lost from the war I wanted to come on mother's day, employed to show the ukrainian people This war has to stop this war, has to include
people of the united states stand with the people of ukraine. You feel it for her visit to ukraine. The first lady also spoke with ukrainian refugees in slovakia and romania. Many of them women and children who left there husbands and fathers fighting at home
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Brains first, lady thank doktor. By for her clothes, courageous act to come. The country during such a dangerous time joining us now and be seen, is white house correspondent like member who is travelling with the first lady. Might not more, can you tell us about this trip, we'll make it really struck by the conversation that you ve been having about voting president Vladimir Putin and his attempt really showcase military power. I went very much doubt and what I've been now over the course of the last four days of travelling with the first, in eastern europe we ve, actually literally just for a few minutes ago at the airport here and by his father, were or about the head on. This was really an exercise in soft power on the part of the first lady
each stop. The official mission was to show faced the? U s. The fourth bore, not just the people of ukraine, but for our nato allies, specially trained neighbours who have done so much to absorb the humanitarian or economic or of the crisis in ukraine, but also what was absolutely this significant moments moment yesterday, what advisers be the first lady described it as a mother, the mother Anderson, between the? U s persuaded after Joe Biden and you ve craves birthday the airlines lumps together. We had not been in public since the invasion of ukraine began. I was sick, Alex who actually had a chance to travel into you paint with precisely with the secret travellers, not revealed we were not able even able to afford it until after we had left the country, but as you ve played their due first. Ladies others having what we were leaders, both really personal privacy,
which, by the way, how are you feeling and to talk about the whole? she and so many other ukrainian mothers, of not being able to be with her husband but asked olenin was twofold: first baby being able to hold for children's handsome providing there's gotta, be bringing that message back home for her husband president. There is no other in this administration, who has its natural with thousands of providers there without fear and immigration. I just ass the first lady at the moment, when he was meeting with provocative president when she called her. That's your reading, leaving pain and described the meeting, and she said she thought it was so important to tell him how important it was beneath and the frame at the heart of what they've been experiencing, and we know she's also gonna, be focusing a lot now on the importance of mental health. Even visiting he seemed students who have left their country often with mothers. Do our theory the strategy,
That's got to be important, but on food and feed in his white house correspondent, my memory- I thank you very much and I ve been following the first ladies trip Joe, and it's it's truly incredible. What she's been doing because just symbolically showing up not only where the refugees have been going to romania, slovakia, but showing up inside ukraine and hugging the mothers and the father less children in this unbelievable situation with their families. torn apart, and these Children's lives have been in massive up people since the war began there in ukraine that are not in their home there somewhere else, and they don't know. If they're going back and it did a lot of listening. She didn't in our work, the cameras she said, down and listened and held their hands and hugged the mothers and one little girl came
to her, you know, is a little piece of paper shaped in a hand, blue and yellow, and she asked what was written on the paper and the little girl said I want to go. to my father and it's the situation that every child is in, that she has been meeting with. That's the situation every refugee has, and if you go to the border in poland, where millions of refugees have cross through all you'll see is women and children and run there, you know that a family has been torn apart. That's just the beginning of their treacherous on actionable journey away from this- You know where their their visit, so many diplomatic physics that that you're doing and you just check the boxes is contrary to there. They need to be done. We'll tell you this is so you can just look at these images. Look at the pictures look
it came out of these meetings, and the word soft power was used earlier is extraordinary use of soft power. Joe Biden were killed by this most comfortable and the classroom and with people she's. She has an extraordinary gift, one on one, with people connecting with people there's a genuine. Instead, they the cross, and yes, we know where we noted for a long time. We also Now there long enough to see her when she's in rooms aware she's talking to people than she has the common touch and there are there- are some people when they walk into a room and give give others a hug. Make a difference. I know growing up. We we always talked about ronald reagan. Should the challenger tragedy and and talking to families hugging people of adheres jill. By doing what
by does best get this compassionate loving. human bang Why do I bring this up? I bring it up for two reasons. One region as it is so important. that face right. There is the face of hope, coming from america to ukraine and that's a face. We see back here of these children on mother's day separated from their families, but also It is also important for ukrainians to see a man his first lady over there and you know that the president's wife the first lady. as commodore war zone is going to be coming back. and and telling the president that this is a country that is in need of continued support, not that the presence not supporting them now just
being with her, every day someone who's bendy ukraine, someone who's been to the war zone, someone who knows the personal toll that this war is taking on the pier The country a way that even the right, as secretary of events is never going to learn in his briefings. Are the greatest secretary of state, absolutely show, and the focus naturally has been on the military help It's also a reminder, big thing: what we're doing to help the economy to help refugees and ice or will probably be talking about reparations? One of the things about these wars is the worst consequences, joan anyone the warrants,
and what you see is an entire generation and particularly of young people, who will literally need years of help in order to recover anything like an normalcy. So you've got the economic cost of ultimately rebuilding the country, but you've also going to have the the health and the psychological challenge of reach of rebuilding a country. You've seen another war zones when you see these family scenes. So this is this- is this: is this stuff literally of years not simply of which it would be unfortunate. We can begin it. Until the war ends and that's the that's part of the problem. but Joe Biden again the classroom? hearing the concerns of these children maker? Who would be better than the first lady? Nobody still add on morning, Joe president's a landscape has said it will cost at least six hundred billion dollars to rebuild ukraine, but local officials and regular citizens. Aren't we around the later
on the ukrainian resolve to clean up and rebuild either. As the war with russia rages on plus, you too, body and the edge put on a surprise concern in a cave subway station. We're going to show you some of that performance, also it had wide senate minority later Mitch. Mcconnell is saying about the possibility of a nation wide abortion ban, if roe v wade is overturned and former events secretary mark S, new comments about the quote: dangerous ideas he had to prevent during his time in that trunk administration j morning Joe will be right back
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august continues to heat up with more pivotal primaries on MSNBC on election tuesday, Steve cornell will be at the big board, pointing down the races to help you better understand the numbers. This is a tighter narrower midterm climate than the day after morning, Joe will discuss what the results could mean for november. Twenty twenty two is really going to be a referendum, not one Joe Biden is going to be a referendum on the republican party primary election coverage on MSNBC. Pass the hour. The last of the civilians who were sheltering inside that devastated steel plant in Mary, a pole have been a vacuum The! U one says over one hundred evacuees reached the safety of ukrainian held territory last night in a town. A gram message? Ukraine's deputy prime minister said all and children and elderly,
then rescued from the battered factory. Adding quote this part of the merry humanitarian operation has been completed. However, thousands of ukrainian fighter still remain hold up inside the sprawling complex and our vowing to bite until the end. In a video message, one of the officers of the far right group, the s regiment yesterday said quote sir. for us is unacceptable. The deputy commander of the that is why we will always fight as long as we are alive. This as Russian forces resumed heavy shelling of the steel plant yesterday in his nightly address president's olenska said diplomatic efforts were under way too. to free the fighters and the wounded but ignored. I would be quote extremely difficult. Joining us now national
security unless prime bc news and MSNBC clint watts clint. What can you tell us much richer said earlier in the show, it's really a tug of war. At this point very different from what we saw in the early part of the conflict here in belgrade. You're, seeing the russian forces continue to build up the supply and lots of manpower bringing their reconstitute them so can send them along this axis here. What important. No, since last week is what the ukrainians were able to achieve centrally. In several places they are able to counter attack and extend this parameter around the city. By doing that, their pushing and russian forces out so they can use it fires, as precisely as they were before separately you're, seeing the russians continued array resupply, essentially in this core, bringing The issue of islamism, flanked that they want to bring all the way or to the south, and there really speaks to the bigger picture, which is what we are seeing here on this multi front battle. They did too
The russians did take some small ground here, they're trying to bring all of these problems together to this area, known as slovenia skiff they can get the slovenes. They could essentially loop around what are some ukrainian defences here in the east the last thing I know to kind of consider is We ve seen here a marriageable there still fight every single day, you're, seeing the rushes trying clean up with that area. Bring logistics into it may be trained absorb some of the southern front, but the russians also want to push some of forces here up too don't nets. They wanted don't ask in this easy access together and cut this part of dumbass off. One thing did know: there's been conflict in dumbass since twenty fourteen spent sustain fighting there for a very long time. This is not unusual for this area. So talking about winwood the war enter winwood when stop He hasn't a stops us twenty fourteen. This has been going on embrace me. The last point here took crimea you know nearly a decade ago,
they moved into this part of southern ukraine, they still are building up forces, they're, essentially signaling, that they might try and go for a zapper he shared in April. It's on the equally, they would actually be able to do that, but they are not I came down, but they're not really moving forward, and it's a really question about how quickly ukrainian cranium military continued resupply bring their manpower what they need and get them in the position of the defence. So from where we are where we are seeing now. I miss I want to ask about to do things that make a brought up at her brother brought out to us six weeks ago and wax we rearmament. In an view talking about explaining that prepared his dream was: it necessarily reconstituting ailed soviet union, but greater russia. Looking back to catherine great looking back at the capitals you this, the capitals of key the capitals, though, does kieva museum, the cable, I am curious, do you see any possibility?
With all the activity, let's say he ends up consolidating Mary polly S, land bridge crimea, how this how this prudent? How do the russians git to odessa? when his face the type of resistance eddies facing in care sought no time soon, Joe. I think that's the the clear picture in the sweets of war. I would have been here we were talking about. They made stash and legal aid. They essentially thought there we're going to pull this end around to go all the way to this too tori known as trans dniester by moldova once take circled odessa had they done that they could have. Essentially I did offer essentially surrounded and come in by the sea. Tat is likely to happen, because I think what you see consistently through this entire region right now is ukrainian military, pushing back and even inside this territory, where they ve set up a person government you're, seeing the ukrainians rise a centrally almost
in insurgency in the rear area of this rushing a russian control there. no way there going to be able to sustain this over times? When you look at the big picture, I think russia, challenges: can they even hold this land bridge and if they can overtime How will they secure it? Can they make it part of russia but beyond what will they be able to do because seems like anywhere where they are close to make a live out? This direction stiff resistance for ukrainian military, and craniums themselves are constantly resisting in this occupied territory, Now I see it seems like a very, very tall order make clan. Thank you very much and coming up for getting back that historic run at the kentucky derby, the eighty two one longshot rich strike came out of nowhere. It appears to win the first leg of the triple ground. The horses owner and trainer joins us live a lie within besides stave carnegie, who will explain just how historic a long shot the horse was planned, something
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that was the final stretch, of course, from Saturday's kentucky derby. We're rich strike divide. Eighty one odds become one of the most unlikely winners, history, the run for the roses and the owner of red shrike your dawson and the horses trainer green joins us now. Also with this is NBC steve corner, Jackie reported NBC of sports coverage of the dirty rick. I just got ask me makers. I love the derby. I used to watch it with my daddy's from lexington, but I just gotta ask I love the derby. I can't wait for the movie that I read this as I've. Never seen anything like this. I read. I sense that rotarian. Seventy three: this is one of the most extraordinary story. to come out of come out of the derby, how house have you come to terms with it. Yet we have you. Have you grasped just how monumental this victory was? darting, two and now
every lived for two days: I'd better get for our sleep and has still not sleepy so obviously, as in taking anything out of me either. So yeah. Well, I'm end you ve only recently been all four. Why three? Four years I think I made my first was in about twenty sixteen. So five year, six years I was my first are just as were small, ten thirteen percent shares and some horses and and then just a few years ago, by less than two years, I guess now met Eric and a lot obviously one of the horses whereby was rich strike, and so here we are today And can you talk about you all talk about again? Just such an extraordinary stored, neri rags riches story, talk about fifth He minutes before the deadline,
deciding in getting the opportunity Have your horse gettin, the derby yeah, we waited all day to see if we could actually Gideon, because a nine o clock that was cut off tabs at forty five, I was notified by the man assigned to us that are didn't, look like there was going to be any scratches and we weren't going to make the race. So If the text read my dad an actual request and the sami, I was just texting people and telling the crew look as we came along the way we got real close. Let's pick your head You re to go to new york next saturday and will try for the belmont and now We had all kind of got nowhere. The initial sadness when I got a call say it. I don't do this horse, you get me in like one minute before the deadline, the stuarts colonists- and I would you be interested in running in the twelfth race to kentucky darby tomorrow, my grandchildren
god, that's amazing and Eric. You know who it was for me and watching his rays What was so exciting is that rare strike one go away. The horse was like lock it on a well go on, go on, go on at the end and I loved the call that they're talking about the two favorites and suddenly you just squeeze the name right strike this horse had so much editing. At the end yeah. He was full of run in the race. He got stopped in the middle of stretch a little bit passing the horse. It was tiring on the rail tell my father that point us in my gosh we might finnish? Third, and- the guy beside exhorted goin. Oh my god,
God knows what we thought as soon as he took the lead on our failed down. I didn't even seem crossed the wire. I was so excited, I just dropped and then they mug me lockout scored a touchdown, the endzone, and it was the craziest thing ever happened to me, but oh my gosh. What an exciting time- I was watching the race about a hundred yards, the finish line, and so they came by we. economic, unlike air just said, I thought. Oh, my gosh we're going to get the board. You know we're gonna be third, we could be second and then I had the switch to the big screen because I couldn't really say the finish line Watch you name it he's just flying around us in line or we're gonna win the derby we're gonna win the dirt in my family were there and- and jubilation from there. It was jumping up and down screamin yellin, my guys in than they coursers
the usher usher you off to the winner's circle. So, oh, my gosh unbelievable We will try zone event is beautiful greed. I'm curious, salvo horse is doing this morning and also tell us about your jockey, because this was on the believes. This was incredible, incredible riding. And tat s. What a ride I mean this this year. We would rather giant reason we're here today, Yeah son is the reason we're here today. He he rides for me for the last couple of years and he's a tremendous rider. He doesn't ride the major circuits, but that doesn't mean he's not capable of writing as good or better than they are, and he proved that this Saturday Sunday gave that or slow smash four trip and eradicate override if they drove the derby twenty races and he did it in his first and made every decision, the right decision, never panics never got shook. And you know I tell people all the time- every job-
that you see in that derby at one time was Sunday Leon I just needed that being horse or that big train or to take on somewhere this time he got the big horse. Here we weren't gonna change. We had never had no intention of changing jocks I made the comment earlier that I said: I'm not going to change my socks all along our jack and and it's the truth. You know Eric and I have complete confidence in sunny. We love He does his courage. His Fearlessness matches our orson, their quota pair, and then we saw even afterwards rich right, didn't want even trot around in his victory. Try, like other horses, he's you ve got a lotta he's gotta fight any so I so eric. I want to talk about this city so special for you obviously tragedy visited you.
not so long ago after the devastating fire That was caused by lightning strike at your your your here. Mercer. I incline. Settle your stable and lexington. This has to be especially sweet for you to come back from from that tragedy. Areas that was fathers, Lavoisier ever gonna get this business and we have faith in france and love that came from all over the country. Take this: I told my daughter s name, I'm done. I think I can do this anymore and a few days later, The decision was made and I wasn't gonna- give up or go out that way. I was going to fight back if as possible, You know I never dreamed anything like this would happen. I was just hoping to get back to regular business and save my business so. Miracles happen. This was another miracle and now everything happens for a reason in life never give up and always Your dreams
never europe an hour or are we going to see you guys at the greatness? That's the plan as long as richie says everything's good, and he makes all the decisions on the track: we've, never any less than five weeks between races. So this going to be a first. If we can pull this off, he seems to have come out of the race. A real good shape, good energy eating he's he's very healthy, so we just need to go to the track. A few days I reckon I'll sit down we'll make that decision we want you to try to do that, she is a nickname. Sunny Leon gave our horse, so it's R, I t c h. I e when Sonny says that in his latin american accent, it's it's even more special. So that's a that's, become his name around the farm in every oil. So we we just refer to him as richie's family. You guys. Let us know what richard says: rich strikes owner.
family friendly eric greed. Thank you welcome their advice and maize great store. I try to sell on core areas alert. Lay our I'd, Steve vernacularly break down for us. This was not your pic for sure. Is now your big who begged us all Anybody me in a hundred fifty thousand other people watch to finish this race. It churchill downs in there was just done silence. This was a horse, as you say, who drew in at the last possible minute. If you look at the traditional sort of speed figures, but would you know you ve kind of used to handicap erase the number just so much lower for this horse. You look it up at the screen. here the longest ads in history to win the day. Ducky derby. This is the second longest shot ever seen things. One you talked about it. The right the jockey sunny leone gave this horse was brilliant it wasn't just coming,
the rail there at the end where there was an opening, it was also, as you just heard them referring to. There was that horse messier, who in his way as he was making that late charge me navigated right around messier did not skipper beat that allowed the winner is. There is no other way there are other other who would have been slowed down right there. You gotta say, though the other thing that happened that that made this possible to is this derby had an absolutely suicidal pace at the front of it and if something we have not seen in a long time where the forces went out super super fast. The opening quarter mile of this race was twenty one and three fifths of a second and it has been ages since we saw a race begin that quickly- and I saw that number I said if the person next to me and the guy I'd bet on a closer modano Donegal, I I was feeling good about mo donegal at that point, but I said someone is coming from the to win this race, because when the horse start that fast, they tire outweigh in it.
winds up the door for horses to come charging in all credit to sunny leone. He took advantage of that opportunity. He delivered this and now, of course, the question becomes, as you mentioned the preakness two weeks from now. Can he follow it up? I think if there is any modern precedent for what we saw on saturday, it would be a horse named mine that bird back in two thousand and nine who won this race at odds of fifty to one came in from new mexico, with absolutely nothing to recommend. Him was twenty links back in the two thousand and nine derby road, the rail got the win, shocked. Everybody at churchill went to the preakness two weeks later didn't win, but it was second by a head, nearly nearly pulled off the preakness and then got third in the belmont. So I look at rich strike. I'm looking at the field potentially taking shape here. For the previous, the big question mark right now is the epicenter or designed on the second and third place horses run again, but the fields gonna look different and I would
instantly right off. Rich strikes chances in the preakness, so the Only greater upset was nineteen. Thirteen, the donner rail ninety one to one mike barnacle by the way, got that one right steve before we came out here that there was something about the previous races about the inside rail, led to this victory, and I know we're gonna talking a lot about the the belmont going forward. Let's spend one more minute, just exciting about how wonderful this race was. What were the conditions that led to this upset up the pole? What it is it's interesting too, because the word around attract the word around churchill all day was in the home stretch where rich strike made his move the place did not want to be just given the track. Conditions was on the rail and I think, if you, get the sort of their coming out of far turn. That's what you're looking at right here. He me
if the decision sunny leone makes the decision to go toward the rail and sunny leone had not written any other races at churchill, downs on the day now part of it is, I think he simply saw an opening there, but I think some of the other jockeys washing the races earlier in the day thought the place too The move to make coming off the far turn is too It's the middle of the track because that had been the place is seen to be early
in the days of sunny leone who hadn't written any of the races. Earlier in the day, shoes of the rail finds the opening there you're just seeing it right there. That's the move around messier, that's a move that hold up a lot of jackie's seamlessly passes that horse and again that pace has been so fast. I think those other horses at the front were just a little bit winded too again, I'm not taking anything away from LEO because he saw an opportunity and he sees that masterfully and by the way I would just add the one thing talk about the preakness now, who is who's not going to be in the preakness against this horse? Rich drake, the very interesting plotline is developing here. As I mentioned my knepper, the last true out of nowhere winner of the kentucky derby, mine, that bird got? Second in the preakness stakes, you know who won the preakness that year? It was a feeling it was a fee
pale horse, rachel, alexandra rachel Alexandra, the last filly to win one of these big triple crown races d wayne lukas is talking about sending his philly secret oath, who won the kentucky oaks on friday to the preakness. So we could have a great storyline here of a girl going against the boys. The longest shot ever eat, one of the longest shots ever. I think, there's some great preakness storylines setting up here. I cannot thank you. Thank you so much. We appreciate your coverage, whether it's the complexities Climate change, the challenge, of racial injustice or the threat to american democracy get your daily seven lightning articles at MSNBC, daily written perspectives people, you know, and trust many hoskin joyce bats and darker computer patel, along with a groan, As of experts offering their insights plus fresh takes four pays ground, occasionally start your with MSNBC daily at msnbc dot, com.
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