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one of the leading negotiator sen, Chris murphy will join us live right here on morning, Joe we're also keeping an eye on wall street. As the mark. Gets are tanking. I had an opening val, looks like a bad day ahead then you go to the dollar tree and we're going to get some insight on. What's fueling, this latest sell off plus the average price of gas. A gallon of gas hits five dollars a gallon and its. Not over. We could be weeks away from the peak of this good morning and come to morning Joe, is Monday june thirteenth with us. We have whitehouse Pierre chief at political and host of wage, a world Jonathan, the mayor and emerson busy contributor. My final joins us early this morning. Talk about it, but I think this we greatly to talk a little bit of baseball. My former call man, red sox. Just keep winning in those yankees keep on wanting. In fact, everybody american ladys keep pointing doubting

the aching scheme, when you could say the aching she'd, crushing memory upon they face escorted, runs like a six seconds yesterday in the first anything is deployed chicago cubs, about where it talks, of course, that struck me little team finally found a strength. Big come back just they're, just rolling live rafi. Devers. Navy theory is that he just flicks his wrist unbelievably bad pitch outside of bad stage. Endeavors takes it. Man two hours in the eighth ending mike this is this is one that get away from the mariners and then had an incredible play in the field and credible catch now fill this is well my debt write. Something his charge trouble. How wrong rats oh good way to save it, and you know John, it's here's a great lose. I mean we're

the little engine that could there's. No doubt we we're struggling, we just you know, win a game, but you losing a match, We just kind of words kind of making our way through the great news, le maire that the yankees are winning as much as they are because that means we get to play. I'm in the playoffs right what we have been the yankees, I hope thing ankara's keep winning because for people who don't know they're, just a team that don't know how to the lowly red sox in the playoffs for the first one read such went. Eighty two on the west coast, which seems impossible than ever in a sign of perhaps the end times there. But despite the socks have gone, they ve gone twenty two and ten joe and their land. Thirty two games, and yet they ve lost two games: the standing of the andes over that point, because the andes will not lose mac carpenter, whose career was over a few years ago. Was the bronx rose, a mustache internationally garrick eyes. Gus,

it's home, runs at a matter of days, but you are despite the fact that the yankees there, five hundred million dollar payroll, appear to be running away with the american league. We, beaten them three straight times in october, so maybe we'll get another shot in the season gets a little boring. So I'm just glad that, but now he doesn't look like Lou Gehrig. He he looks like a character out of boogie nights, but that's fine, whatever the yankees to the playoffs, so we can actually beat them mike we're going through a series of so stories we're going to talk about the gun down into, but a lot of different things. But I always will remember my dad back in the late seventies coming home and gas used to be thirty three cents, a gallon just like that it was a dollar a gallon v really hit his his bottom line budget. You, of these five dollar prices. You look at the fact that china is just now reopening from uncovered those.

Dollar prices, I'm afraid you're gonna just keep going up, because the war keeps getting worse and when shyness starts opening up and theirs is massive demand on the economy. Prizes. I wouldn't be surprised if the other six dollars a gallon joe I'm going to tell you one thing that headline: they are: u dot s gas prices hit a new high five dollars a gallon. You show me a station where gas is selling for five dollars a gallon and I'm going to race there, because average to the motorist, at least on the east coast. I think, is much higher than five dollars. Gas station gas station. You know you know five dollars in forty cents for right there, five nineteen and higher, already higher, already soaring towards six dollars a gallant and that's crusher for anyone running for office as a Democrat right now. Railway is the ideal organizers. I mean. If you look at the stock market, you look at that demand for housing and all the different ways. The account

it is being squeezed inflation supply chain issues. There's going to be a cost, as to whether or not interest rates will be raising harder for people have to be raised, but was warm words raisonably or they have so far. I mean where inflation over eight percent now, interest rates are gonna, have to go up significantly more get to that a lot of that in just a moment, and also what we can expect from today's january sixth committee hearing in just a moment to including the ratings from the first line of hearing your journal, I mean one major network didn't even carrying it, got pretty high ratings road. We will talk about that coming up, but first a bipartisan group of senator, say it has reached a deal on the framework for a new set of gun, violence prevention. Was, after weeks of negotiations. Ten republicans ten democrats The breakthrough yesterday, riding in part this family

are scared and it is our duty to come together and get something done that will help us or their sense of safety and security in their communities while sources. And the final bill has not yet been written. The agreed upon proposal would include significant funding for states to implement red flag laws more the background checks for gun virus under the age of twenty one. The proposal how her does not include a total ban on assault weapons and it does, raise the minimum age to buy an assault weapon. President Biden has praising the new gun bill framework in a statement released by the white house yesterday, the president rights in part Obviously it does not do everything I think is needed, but reflects important steps in the right direction and would be the most significant guns, safety legislation to pass congress in decades. Each day that passes more

children are killed in this country. The sooner to my desk. The sooner I can sign at the sooner we can use these measures to save lives. Side of his progress, slow progress, but progress I'm sure you know, I'm sure you study did Abraham lincoln was often criticized for moving too slowly tool. Ending slavery. Abolitionist like frederick douglass noted that viewed from the genuine abolition, ground, mister lincoln seemed tardy, cold, dull and indifferent, but late was an incremental list because his enemies were absolutist in their support of slavery, So today take a deep breath seeking meaningful public safety reform, find themselves surrounded by gun manufacturers and their allies, who are true, block was at american support in laws that could slow down and eventually stop mass. Sk killings in our schools. Passing

universal background checks, raising the age of buying weapons of war from eighteen to twenty one and enacting red flag laws in all fifty states. Those wildly popular measures that promote like safety, but even those provisions that sound south incremental didn get into the final senate framework fight, a deal was struck. Progress was made, and just ass parents and children killed it sandy hook whether that is better than one, happened following their tragedy ten years ago. Yes, progress is small, but it is progress. Lincoln once said his often criticized march towards emancipation and it. Too slow, I am a slow walker, but I never walk back. We all keep walking forward together for the day when our children can again go to school, with the fear of

weapons of war. And mass shootings man joining us now and basic news, corresponding Josh letterman Josh was covering this all day yesterday. Is that went down just what more? Can you Alas, when we go the big success tomorrow, the breakthrough, perhaps if you will- was the fact that there were ten republicans who signed on to this framework agreement, that these senators have reached, meaning assuming that that level of support carries forward. You have failed buster proof, support for this legislation and an actual choice

It's of something becoming law, which you contrast that, with the much more sweeping package that the house passed just last week, that would have gone much farther but, of course, was politically dead. On arrival in the senate, but this is just a framework, as you pointed out, in the intro there's: no legislation written yet, and so today, senators and their aides will start the very difficult task of turning this framework into an actual bill. That lawmakers can look at. Everybody can decide whether they support it. Frankly, outside groups can start to lobby for it and against it, and that is where getting more political support for this could be really difficult, and it's also why senators who are involved in this want to proceed so quickly. They know that was a procedural success, but this bill is not yet over the finish line and with the elections coming just around the corner. The time to to put this into law could be short, I said,

last night, with senator Chris Coon's one of the Democrats who signed on to this agreement and here's what he told me about the timeline that he foresees for turning this into a law. We still face some potential hurdles. My hope is that can get a vote on this in this within the next two weeks and that we can get it the president's desk before the five july, that's it a timeline for the? U S, senate, but, frankly, the urgency of now the urgency of acting while there is still a nash. Focus, a national pressure to act is what I think gives all of us optimism that this time may be different. Make it was just a few weeks ago that congressmen, Chris Jacobs of new york of the same region, or that buffalo shooting took place, came out in support of some modest gone restrictions and within it

It was literally chased out of congress, said he's going to resign because, as a republican, it had become politically impossible, essentially for him to win reelection. This is the opposite of what democrats hope is the message that will be sent by this legislation. Yes, it's incremental according to Chris coons, but democrats and gun control advocates are hoping that even a modest step that enjoys republican support, perhaps north of that ten who have signed on perhaps they get closer to. Seventy is a lot of Democrats would like to. They hope that that creates a press we're republicans has see more political space for them in the future to endorse even more far reaching gun restrictions without the fear of the kind of repercussions that just shoot or a publican member out of congress. They hope that that will lay the groundwork. For me, two more ambitious measures to reduce gun violence in the future? Make up right?

explain or embassies Josh letterman. Thank you very much for the mere. What are you doing at the white house? Will the presidency statement is pretty clear that this was not everything they wanted. I mean they were hoping for a fire more overreaching measure here on guns that they were certainly hoping to raise the age on assault all weapons to purchase mating you twenty one, that's not happening, but they'll, take it. The senses, as, as you said Joe and is Josh, reported that its progress even incremental, that's better than nothing. Was there a sense from white house aides? I talked to last night. There is a hope. We've heard this from some republicans to take to get that number up beyond this Steve o's, closer sixty five. Seventy, not only just politically, to give more republicans cover. Two indeed show them that this could be something that you can put, name toward, and you may not suffer electoral com. Once we know how well these measures we ve been talking about them since the wake of the buffalo and evolving shootings. Seventy eighty percent of americans

Believe in these steps, and frankly most of them want to go a lot further than this deal. The Senate has reached so aids. I talked to last night's your whilst officials- yes, there is, I'll bet a disappointment that I couldn't do more, but they are pleased there. I had this is a step in the right direction They do think that it could open the door to further steps, but the fear, as one eight put it to me with those next epochs, come only in the wake of another gun tragedy and they certainly hope not, but that sadly, is the political reality. We may be fast We might want to talk about the environmental progress here. It is incremental. At the same time it is its fairly dramatic. At the same time, because you were given blackens. They drag their feet after sandy hope they drag their feet after EL paso. They drag their feet after las vegas country music concert. They drag their feet. After me, killings in churches in synagogues and movie theatres always drag their feet, always said. No.

I don't think they just showed up this time but because they felt like it was the right thing to do Why? go windsor changing, maybe not dramatically, but by at least ten republicans have, since the shift in the mood of the electorate joe you now. The success of this committee will make this group and seventys led by chris murphy this summer You apply The level of relief with the accomplishment that they came up with over the weekend asked the combined with a level of frustration that is just in time, back in the united states and that we just heard chris calls say: the urgency is now, and the urgency is now is defined- is getting this bill through the united states Senate as written at the end of july, that's five weeks from now so far is that

tenth of june, there has been, by definition, a mass shootings every sing. All day of june, thus far with it option of only one day, so the united states Senate has done something are on the verge of doing something the bill hasn't been written yet and if you're gonna wrong adjective in their whoever you might lose a republican senator who knows, but the level of frustration that people must be feeling it's got to be a credible The urgency of now end of July, please stop at we're. Gonna have sent Chris murphy on the show later on this morning. January. Sixth, we said january six select committee will be holding its first public hearing, and

What the people watch at first, they do. You know like people, actors ass, they like to look at ratings as sort of a six sex meter. Some people look at it. That way I mean, I don't know it's a little settled at or how many limbs, alas, over ratings yeah there's with, but I will tell you. It is interesting that everybody was saying democrats and the republicans that were on this committee had failed. We heard they were boring. These are terrible hearings, they've already failed to remember. We had but op eds before the first hearing their calls, fellur law law, but also really boring. They were called really boring, like they couldn't keep a viewer in by well by the critics. It wanted to watch he s exactly because there is a network that didn't carry it. Despite that, like a major network, our phone that, where are we pillars, will but based on loans ratings for the first hearing fishing, a lot of insurance time make it. You know that

twenty million people across america watched thirst, plant, I'm hearing in that of course, according to the rules, and that I am not one of the biggest networks didn't even carried out. I didn't they didn't benefiting, It's points out, those twenty million viewers and the ball park with big television events like sunday night football. I like that. I want you to compare those twenty million viewers with the biggest ratings donald trump, Various reality show riots and fourteen showed celebrity fan is now. This was done veiled this. They had seven point: six million viewers, rachel apprentice, its final season. That's a big finale only have four point. One let hearings l? I might not front not really gonna math le mere, but it seems that if you look at the way these have apprentice

I am aware of four point: six million less jamie get twenty million. That full sends an apprentice. Liberty are no don't do that now. The celebrity apprentice, vat, The final season get seven point: six, seven because you know after the apprentice Zero only four point: six million for primetime show that he said was the greatest. Ever they had to getting celebrities like my guarantees. Their people? Why does wasn't getting out of four point six of prime time on a broad guessed, but really small, but anyway separate, look, absolutely suppers again. Lay it's freezing so, like our trump said that the apprentice was like one of the most popular shows of all time: twenty million that's great sangree.

Yeah yeah, nobody in sadness and all were still looking at these numbers. The predators final season or point Six million the chinese that still looking at what a merry and know you could add up his final seize on average, first library, prejudice and final season for the apprentice and it still one year later, ok outlook. Cyclists has more than doubled their. Yeah we need steve rather to break down the math. Here has we're all struggling with it, but there is no question that the ratings for that first hearing last week dwarfed anything then liberty, developer donald trump got for either hit as itinerary of the apprentice franchise and it didn't put to rest some of the doubts. As you just said, whether americans would be paying attention and, and twenty million significant number at last, the president would get safer stated a union, but more than just about anything else. That would be on television at any other time this year, so that a real deal and people were watching their seems. Well, we had an which worley focused

from our friendly called well said, the caterpillar had opinions changed by it in the immediate aftermath. It was so compelling, particularly video, look at here then, financing americanized yeah. Can I have the world series all fall far short of the find the worship of those jane or six hearings which mind you don't even accounts of the online viewers. This idea and there's rule momentum heading on today's second hearing. Mikey look the comparisons. Of course, there's really no comparison with their predecessors, library, apprentice, cyclists, cheney, just crushed from this forest ratings go ice. Italy's, I don't think she's our heads into its eggs from failing, but she was the one up. She was yeah

I wasn't going to say a gary busey of just look at. That is just saying he was and she was like the margaret thatcher of it, but now look at these numbers out, because you know these celebrities. These are puny numbers for a prime time broadcast show. But let's look at these other numbers that Alex put up I'm serious here, everybody preventing saying this hearing was going to be just total garbage, but the fight game of the world series a pretty good one between the braves, the asteroids eleven point: seven, six million viewers to the committee getting twenty million, the twenty twenty two and be a finals average of the first three games about half eleven million points eleven point: seven, eight million american idol for this past week, six point: five million, a third of what the liz cheney hearing and then survivor five point: seven million little more than a fourth show,

for those people whining about how bad The hearing was now boring. It was america Disagree a fell, my right, you know, I don't think I'm alone when I say I was surprised that number that they achieve twenty million of yours. In addition to that I mean this is the kind of event that, when you watch it on television, it's not at the n b a finals or it's not even like a world series game where you turn away, you talk about a play or you go get a coca cola or something to wash the rest of the any of the rest of the quarter. You're paying attention. If you're watching this, then residual, the impact it has on people. I don't know You can measure it yet, but it's out there are people who watch this did in don't pay attention to it. Yeah, yeah, ok Flanagan wrote that she said. Finally, in my lifetime after here you at all of these hearings, I finally find a hearing. This is compelling as well My parents watched during watergate sorting

we compelling and for those people that were whining saying that they learn nothing new. Completely false. Completely false because on the air you saw time and time and time again, you saw people inside the trump white house colleague donald trump about telling us what happened during the january. Sixteen, I say forty ass right exactly for the people out there, the anti anti trumpeters it say what they should have some pro trop people other That's all I need is bad pro people were so proud tromp. Did they at their professional lives to working for Donald has even love. It was

sting them. I think reputation lie because he had done so many horrific things. They still stayed loyal to him yeah it is. It was incredible to watch and there's more to come by the way on the other side of a quick break, we're going to get reporting on what to expect. From today's january sixth hearing and in our third hour of morning Joe, we talked to a member of the committee congressman pete pete are also ahead. Senator Chris murphy will join us on the newly announced framework agreement on gun legislation the very latest from ukraine where russia, divorces are making gains in the eastern part of the country. What scene us defense officials are saying about that plus president torres wildfire damage in new mexico and says they: u S will find recovery costs for a fire started by federal, a fish

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hey happy friday morning. I hope you're doing well hope your friday morning started about half past the hour. It's about six, thirty, what a beautiful beautiful view of capitol hill that morning with eye twitch. You're right now. What am I my favorite songs from the early ninetys? I know we get. You sit there and go What was that we chose favorite songs from the early ninety swell Jesus Jones right here I know how that I hear and ensure that the law is. You know your tongue out. The committee hearings is we're watching and listening. I talked about this Maybe we're haven't five right: yeah! Well, benny, Obviously he's chairman of the committee.

And, if so, whether they're, all doing great work? I just amazing were I to seek to match up and spores well. It is urgent retiree in Florida would focus on the move on and let you know that trump always walked around with the ratings from this celebrity apprentice in the pocket and often inflated, but he would read them proudly and then, when he was running for president having the ratings out of his pocket of his speeches or his debate. I'd ever men talk about how the ratings matter so since weightings matter, it is important to take a look at leave out the weird thing: a billows lodging severely weird thing about it. For my part, I call I'm sure lie appeals to always access ratings, iraqi facts them like it with nineteen teens, nine, the apprentice and you get on his and any didn't of facts. And then you go

but one this way came right. I can say: wait a second ease number, forty seven I dont get out now, but you didn't say anything to you and your friend as guy, but, yeah, but it is just an obsession there. But again I say losers, like Bennie thompson's committee, and it's everybody. It's america's committee, I'm sure that Its america's committee, but whether a million people watching that now about all of the garbage that they had to hear from the anti anti trappers from all the people that we're too too, it proves one of them right hollywood quotes of all time that you told me twenty years ago. Nobody knows nothing, the van actually yeah real gold and bill golden was right. People People listening and people are carrying. In at all jokes aside. We should all all americans who love democracy- all

americans, who love the rule of law, all can sue want justice for those police officers, families all I can see you want to protect the next election. They should be cheered. They be happy vacant put catastrophizing, the aside today, americans tuned in america. Scare well yeah? That's for sure, and with regard to the numbers in the ratings, twenty million versus the apprentice numbers sure the apprentice numbers were rigged yeah, but it was stolen from him. I'm sure he's walking around mar a lago this morning. Talking about the real numbers involved Why prenticed but mean that we talk about salmon, talked about energy segment, joan those people who watched twenty million. What they saw they're, going to retain what they saw. There's no way yeah, you can not sink in them. Remember in visualize the first several minutes of that film clip where you had police officers and

and security, guys capitol police officers in washington, dc metro police officers being attacked. By the more modern law that was once described by a republican member of congress is more It's just a bunch of tourists. I mean the violence, the violence of what you're watching right now, people, retain that their remember that that's it! That's a visual reminder of what They was all about. Jonathan yeah. There's no question the video was the centre piece. That first hearing a lot of this footage, before seen these robotic this body greeting. I am yet police officers their lives in jeopardy. Compounded with that, testimony from that officer who herself suffered a traumatic brain injury and described in graphic detail tending to her wounded colleagues slipping in their pools of blood on the capitol steps. Those are images that stay with people and the committee as aids are put to me smartly focusing on those in trump world are there. They feel

It will be the most convincing testimonies, including a roster today, which includes the campaign manager and twenty twenty bill steppin so meagre there there. The drama here will continue unfold spread out over this weekend. Next, as the committee continues to build its narrative and placed the blame for one of the darkest days american history squarely at the feet of donald trump fats, ten am eastern. The january six select committee will gavel in the first three hearing scheduled for this we today is testimony, will focus on the origin of the big lie and how former president trump weaponized false theories of election fraud. The committee will speak to five witnesses today in two panels, Ben Ginsburg republican election lawyer ouch,

it was city. Commissioner, philadelphia former us attorney in atlanta, bj pack resigned after refusing to claim of voter fraud in georgia, so three will be grouped together in the second second panel, also taking part Chris star I too was fox news is political editor, but was fired after the twenty twenty election. He will be grow with former trump campaign, share bill step in as Jonathan mentioned, who is report play appearing under subpoena, and currently an adviser to the trump endorse primary challenger too. The committee chair vice chair, lice liz cheney Our times reports. The january six committee suggested in a letter sent to MR step in that it had evidence that he was aware that the trunk campaign, was raising money by make false claims about election fraud,

Today's hearing is expected to last about two hours, but could run a bit longer. Congresswoman Zoloft, grin of california, is expected to play a key role in. This morning's proceeding. That's why you're right now to investigations report of the washington post, jackie albanian, also mass, oh corresponded at political betsy. Wonder of Swann I see what you expect to hear today. Yeah when we got today we're going to hear all about the origins and evolution of the big lie and you're going to see the committee trying to show, as they did in pardoning the first hearing that trump knowingly spread. The big lie that he was told time and time again that his claims of election fraud were false, that his defeat was fair and square, but continued to propagate those claims. Anyways. I think we're going to see this sort of split two ways. The the fundraising and political apparatus that was built around the big lie to bring in a record record raising

cash hall in the aftermath of trumps electoral defeat and then the other side of this, which was the way trumps claims sort of radicalized the insurrectionists and through spread this lie in order to galvanise and mobilise his supporters and two to leverage that in order to stay in power, but I think bills,

at the end is certainly going to be an interesting match up. She is also advising harriet hague means campaign, that's list chinese primary challenger and- and she can also speak to the fund, raising aspect of this, which I think is going to be very notable for the committee and ultimately for the deal J and trying to prove a criminal case, which is that the term campaign was knowingly raising money, defrauding the american people off of these false claims, and there could be potential emails. Various records intermingled with these testimony to to prove that the trunk campaign knew that these claims were false, but continue to do so. Anyways, along with republican national committee and other, are other official arms of the republican party and that's what so critical about donald trump state of mind, is actually the proof that he knew he was lying all along the proof that we ve heard time and again that he knew he lost the election despite That fact that

still spread that lie for the purposes of stealing money from them can you from the american people from his supporters betsy? My pants has come into bed sharper leaf over the last week or so, since these hearings have begun what's happening and pins world what's their reaction, what new do we know about them couple days we obtained and published to internal memos from my pencil whitehouse legal team that were produced just days before the january sex. The tat this My the committee has copies of those he's memos as well, but they haven't previously benzene in publicly the first one that we got is dated january first ends literally spreadsheet. It go through all these allegations of voter fraud and mismanagement dismember, produced to prepare pence for january sex one.

Talks on this spreadsheet, specifically less about a dozen allegations that the trump campaign itself made in court in georgia, with lots of specific claims about loiter fraud, the members quickly says those allegations were made on december for This man was dated january first and it also very specifically says that within a month, that's all was thirty days later MIKE His own white house, legal team, was unable to verify any of those allegations that the trump campaign made in work, the gist of this man, oh, is that pence. His own lawyers, who had access to everything the trouble

I'm here would have had found themselves unconvinced that there was any significant, meaningful loader fraud, negative change, the outcome of the election next january. First, the second member. We have is, literally from the day before the january six, the tap also prepared by pencils legal team to get him ready for a day that they knew had the potential to he calamitous and in that memo it What it does is it's the most authoritative take down. Ever wrote, crazy, wild eyed legal arguments that job eastman, was making to try to get hence on board with their business, our plan to overturn the election results and the sub text of this memo is not only was was. I was easement plan farfetched. Not only was it illegal, not only was an unconstitutional, but my red of this as well is that, in the view of times top lawyer at the time grand Jacob ethan plain was also stupid he's been

difficulties, as this would not have worked. There were any republican legislatures at that moment that were ready to get fully on board with a crate. The eastern trunk plan. It has no future and not only that it would have painted tens. Actually against the rest of the country, both chamber, of congress, as well as all these state legislatures to short red. It's only three pages written in very simple language, and it just lays out why, I didn't get on board as january sex and takes you deep inside the thinking on his legal team. Both of these memos give us in a detailed behind the scenes. Look at why pence did what he did and would leave their boat historic documents. It makes sense for people to read them as they're, getting ready to wash the hearings as weak

right, fascinating and jack alimony lay out the rest of the week for us what the plans are, what the strategy is and and on on parallel tracks. The feds are still making arrests who's the audience they'll be appealing to We did so on. One say we're going to hear from the committee yet again and they're going to be making the presentation about how from tried to use the department of justice too. In order to stay in power. We're gonna hear from trumps former acting attorney general frozen steve angle reached on a few people who worked under frozen and how they were really being one of the final obstacles to the president to actually implementing some of these.

Spear receive ferries that he was trying to get various players. People like Jeffrey clark, a mid level attorney in the department of justice to take power and and actually execute on thursday we're going to hear a lot of what betsy just described from my pencil own team, that's great jacobs, his council mark short and and a handful of others potentially who can speak to the pressure campaign that trump and his co conspirators john eastman? I think We're really going to start to hear about some of the people who were working alongside trump later on this week in order to again execute actually do the implementation of these conspiracy theories that people were were presenting to him, and I think you know it's going to be namely gripping but also explanatory. I think that is really important component this week it is ultimately the tec google mandate of the committee, I think we're going to see a lot of complex

both theories being put forth and age the committee's shop, ultimately to make that accessible and easy to understand for the american public who again might have just been tune again for the first time on thursday, or maybe this week, all right the washington post, Jackie, elevating, politicos betsy would have sworn thank. You are both for your reporting. You know it's really fascinating. Is you listen to this apparently listen to what jack is talking about where they're, going to try to prove state of mind right, which I think I've already proven trot knew This was a sham everybody close to drop everybody inside the white house has said all along. He knew that he had lost he'd been told time and time again that he was going to look that good, that he was gonna lose and that it'll deadlines, but think about? despite knowing that and vague about the hundreds of millions of dollars he's raised off of that big lie. God made here, defrauded

me too, how many if it has its own people I used to be. I had to block it. It was to disturbing east beyond the tax that he would send to his followers and their yelling at them. Don't you believe us we're losing their taking over Biden and all sorts of horrible things about Joe Biden in white from one and they're using that lie to make money and get ready for the next action and that by every estimates should be and floods you'd be a crime is what it should be. A year lie. You know you're lying in your raising money in managua. Things aligns my god, I'm sure the justice department is looking at the hour will say no, we will say coming up from brokered high gas prices to rising inflation. There is a lot to talk about with morning Joe economic analyse steed ratner, joins us next, with those charts at the top of the hour will be judged by centre. Chris Murphy he's the lead democrat involved in

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on fuel than they were a year ago that comes on the heels of friday's consumer price index, showing inflation row, To eight point: six percent weren't talking out of four decade mom and dad wake up. The kids he's here. We charts he's pissed former treasury, luxurious and warning jogging ran are now he's not but Steve. I look at these numbers and I mean I'm sure I was like you hoping against all through the inflation would start to go down and he's a little bit, but man between the war between shy, slowly starting to open up it up again amid all seems like demands. Gonna just keep going. I awry Joe. We are all hoping. The numbers are gonna be better, but they were. They were really disappointing because it's not gasoline, although obviously gasoline is of critical importance to americans and a kind of sticker price. You see every time you drive down the street

its unbelievably broad based inflation and, as you say, it is not getting better and you can see in the friday numbers that came out is how widespread it was. You see the red being energy, twenty eight percent of the inflation, but housing is twenty one percent and food with seventeen percent, so two thirds inflation came from things that americans have to have necessities of life and on the right. I put some just right I am category, is just to show you what some of the individual price increases have been over the just over the past year, gas up fifty percent airfare of almost forty percent and use up over thirty percent like, while covering so thinks about window coverings. Tell me tell me steve wire eggs explained to our viewers why eggs would be going out that much why window coverings would be going out that much what was

it's not like people are buying a huge amounts, more eggs, so it comes more probably on the supply side. In this case, in the case of eggs, you do have this issue of avian flu going through the earth population that may have had some impact, but a lot of it is just classic supply chain problems that thank you that that manufacturers, agricultural growers, whatever can't get enough for this, lies. They need so they supply. Last continued continued demand just as much and prices just go up and as of sixteen per cent coffee up. Sixteen per cent, so we're seeing really large large increases really across the board on all kinds of things, and that so not just going to say I mean look at these numbers at all All seems since I get back it's bad. It's all going to keep going. And my god. Over the last year we have seen wages, skyrocket and we've talked about it, a good bit and yet

Your next chart shows that no matter how much more money people are made, they're, not feeling it at the end of the day, because the price inflation is outpacing, whatever gains that may be, making their salaries their feelings, since the end of the day job, as you just indicated, we during in aunt, in the occasion of the unemployment report a week earlier, we got some wage data, which was good. Wages, continue to grow, as you say, in a nice for I percent range. But when you have a point, six percent inflation so you can lose something like four percent of your purchasing power it's the little red line in the red circle. You can see on the shot at the left, so we went from a period a long period where wages were exceeding inflation. That is that turquoise line, and then you can, they. Ve got off a cliff So then, on the right last friday we also got the consumer sentiment report, the monthly consumer centre report. That's the red line. You see circle there hit its low.

Level ever since the index was first compiled in nineteen, seventy eight, so you got bunch of a lot of very unhappy americans out there we still have credibly, low unemployment rate about three and a half percent, but fifty five percent of americans think we're in a recession at the moment. That's how bad they feel damp because of what's happening with inflation and their wages and gas prices, and all of that Yes, I I read one up at after another about how this is. Joe Biden's inflation. This is Joe Biden's fault retired. It would make me much more tired if I didn't know the Democrats, who do the same thing, do a republican president. Everybody's gonna blame whoever's in there, it seems to me that so much of this is outside the hands of a president. Which leads to the next question. It seems to me the fed share in the fair, have the real power. How much

and sure they jack up interest rates. If you have inflation at eight and a half percent and it can go even higher at what point does the fed step in and start getting really aggressive with? The that is going to have a meeting this week and they're going to make an announcement on Wednesday? The market expects another half a percentage point in and interest rates to go up please history has not even love. Now, it's not enough. It's not enough! You going after have interest rates, go up substantially more made beforehand six percent boon hours in order really with the inflation, but interest rates raising interest rates has consequences, as you can see on this chart this up now, you can see how interest rates got up since the beginning of this year. Really, the ten year treasury, but I also show showing mortgage rates, which barnacle I would talking about which europe to full percentage points to over five. You says, but the another import, thing for people to understand is the relationship between interest rates and the stock more

and I drew a a vertical lack line on the spot on the two charts, the one on the left bank interest rates, the one in the lower right thing, the stock market which its peak in january of this year, you can see, they pulse moved almost at the same moment, interest rates began to climb the stuff. Market rolled over, which is why them It went out so much on friday and by the way, we're going to have a really ugly day this morning on the stock market, at least at the open enough back the Essen key indexing compare market territory, which means the decline of twenty percent So this is all all not good, you don't sleep. You- and I just have to say in passing. You and I spent are adult lives. Warning rising deficits rising dead. There have been many progressive economists. I sang that we were chicken littles saying the sky is falling. The sky is falling. This is this is what we ve been warning of this

what happens? I was wondering why it was taking so long, but you flood the economy with too much money with too much government debt with too you to too many government programmes too much, deficit spending. Exactly what happens in my god, I wonder what would have happened if progressive z, captain there's six trillion dollar wish earlier this year yeah in an ironic way. You almost have to thank Joe for for blocking that, because six and a half trillion dollars. Spending in this economy would make these numbers look small yeah look. We had. We had a huge budget deficit. We had an unbelievably aggressive reaction by the feds, the pandemic. Kind of understand why they were trying, but they just try too hard our all going to pay the consequences in a very very. Tough environment over the next year or two, while this get sorted out. I am well aware I would even say ironically, thank joe magic aegis. Thank Joe mansion

but it's near glad that interest rates aren't even higher our save there. Thank you very much. We appreciate your coming on this morning, see once again soon and still ahead, Thirty year, log jam broken in the senate, said: chris murphy joined since at the top of the hour, to discuss the part and deal on a framework for a new gun safety legislation plus? How did donald trump's. Big lie fuel the rioters on january. Sixteen it thats expected to be the focus of today's second black hearing before the select committee, a member of that panel congress and Peter Aguilar joins us, prefer the start of today's session. We're back in two minutes. Kids, areas. That would mean a kid is all about, but with bacteria

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