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Setting the stage for tomorrow's hearing. We expect to hear testimony from the georgia official who resisted trumps pushed to quotes, find the votes that would put him over. Top were also following the latest in the debate over new gun safety legislation that leave republican negotiator in those talks centre, john corn of texas was booed by state party for deterring even the most modest changes. Gone live, I've got to say, meego, considering this convention, the the the bizarre thing this convention passed at the end and Reminds me of what my mother said and why say to senator cornered this morning, but be judge yourself by your, enemies and if you look at the extremes there, look at some of the horrible things that republic

we are saying about you ve all day Now the fact they're getting under way of a guy who's actually trying to their lives safer. There cool safer their church? just say for their country concerns that they go to save her their their shopping mall safer. There grocery store safer, the fact that supporting public safety comes a political liability in a political party. Well that just suggests that political party is moving forward. There and further away from mainstream, and it's much closer to europe, Iraq being erected gouty relevant end. State of american politics, and not this year, maybe not next year, but that too This coming. Mass, sustainable public and party is on sustainable.

Explained that more customers different strains of that that are really coming to light. Also when it comes to helping ukraine, a new report find some countries are really helping, while others are mostly talking with discuss. The growing pressure on western europe do more with us calmness associate at or for the washington post, David Ignatius joining us this morning, national political rapporteur for acts as jonathan swan and white house bureau chief, more their co and a host of way too early then the mayor as with us and a host of MSNBC, is politics nation, president of them national action network. Ever endow shopton is with us on this monday morning, Morgana begin Joe with that pull that that finds a majority of americans nearly six and ten believe Donald. From should be charged for his role in january sixth attack on the capital

vision is obsessed. Paul was conducted this past friday. And saturday after the first, three hearings and the attack there are still more to come. It found fifty eight Sent of those surveyed believed the former president should be charged thanks ninety one percent of democrats and nineteen percent of republicans six percent of americans believed the january sticks to investigation- has been fair and they really have laid out just point five, Joe, no drama letting act. The actual events speak and you know we have heard David Ignatius for so long now for good reason? Weaver that the truth does it matter we ve heard about how can you Your suit theories have shout rationality and reason from our political debate from the public swear.

Well this morning we have a pull that shows that actually six in ten of our neighbours. Do seem to care six in terms of r, r countrymen and country. Women do seem to care that truth actually matters? Another Six and ten believe that The committee has been fair and impartial. Only thirty April never say never trappers, say it's not fair and impartial. I must say David. That is. That is something for us to always remember the next time we see a pull that showing about, forty percent of the country, a pole of forty percent of the country of like the republican base, believes then crazy because we're looking at about thirty eight percent there, still or clinging to conspiracy theories, sixty percent, actually believe, not only that donald trump

active wrongly, but that here be charged with a cry of joy I've found the same size courage, but in those Paul numbers it still a fact that political system is broken, rank the democratically. Or can split in that poor. You got ninety one percent of democrats thinking trunk juncture. Should be charged and only nineteen percent of republicans, but what this does tell me: is that a careful, systematic non, show balding attempt to put the facts out before the american people, as the generous ex committee has done. Here's to be having some effect and trumps attempts to read, but that, as in his speech to the favor lena coalition, really flailing. I was struck her job by the way in which this has got london.

Tromp scary. It's almost an obsession is obviously watching every detail he's got a nasty word for everybody. Who played a role, and, I said, his is phrases by standards just lacked the the singers that were used to so let's hope that the committee can continue forward assembly this case piece by piece of it. They had surprises along aware of they continue to do that, but as you say, there's some evans here- that when the people programme presented with carefully drawn facts, they draw sensible conclusions and that, certainly I gotta say in this country Jonathan wellmere. You look at the numbers. Only nineteen percent of republicans hats, let's stop. First don't think about this. In this world of small margins that play by every election.

Whether it was twenty? spain are twenty twenty, let's just stop for a second and go while only nineteen percent publicans thinking should be charged with a crime and go to jail. That's in five republicans now I must say I ran four times in one easy four times, but if one five of my base thought I should have been charged with crimes been gone in jail. I mean I would have I would have gone in practice law a lot earlier. That's the again! This is this is starting to resonate. This is starting to see again and- and I just wait. We love we love to knock around washington institutions about him You d say all of us: we'd love to talk about ineffective people in congress or companies are The committee has gotten the truth out to the american people and even

beginning at summer. There listening Jonathan that shocking to me, you're, making a good point about report hence beings from out of step in many ways with the main street we ve seen the pull within armor on the show about. You're out of step on abortion, how they out of step on guns, and yes it. Sk glanced. Nineteen percent feels like a small number, but what Five is not insignificant, particularly in but here where the full for I saw his eye political come back where more and more europeans. Are you seemingly gay? the courage to stand up to him considering their own twenty twenty four on, whether or not he decides to lodge his own I'm paying to seek the office again and that's clear These hearings are matter now we ve seen some polling. We ve talked that where some republicans feel like they have the opposite effect. That's driven them work towards their base, its turn them more towards tromp, but certainly nineteen. Twenty percent- that's a real number,

and it's a testament to the committee. We had three hearing so far. We ve got to more this week and they have been really good in part because have been so, unlike what are all condition to expect from congressional hearings, they are pretty short each one. About two hours or so their wealth, did there well constructed. They move quickly dead, the incredible Never before seen, video really power testimony and adjust the facts. Ma am type of approach, mostly from fellow republic kittens those even were on donald trump team, who are now of course, change. What he did was wrong in telling the american people that also Great speeches, no speechified from members is to work of staff and it's getting it done and getting it done effectively and aids telling reporters over the weekend. They got some really important things to share in the hearing still at

Now you know Jonathan swan, I'm just curious eyes saw that you have done some reporting on corn and being booed in taxes a republican convention that again just had some crack pot It has come out you get out how and swore that vat mention was is weakened as far as the positions that they took what is small percentage of the population, would follow them. The fact there, Begins or the wrong side of ninety ninety ten issue on universal background checks, wrong side of the issue and on choice for women. Seventy thirty, and then you look at the candidates, Christine o donnell, memorial award is going to go out this year. I dont know. Is it going to be the herschel walker in george? Is it going to be the eyes, in pennsylvania is going to be d, J d vats now I'll and all

of the crackpot. This is me: I can not? U candidates, it seemed to be running out in arizona they they seem to be driving over a cliff and you think the whole already the whole countries going crazy, and then you see a pull like this. It does wait. A second pretty healthy majority want to see. Tromp arrest. For what he did on january. Six help help help. How does that impact the rank and file? How what are the mitch bacchanals of of washington thinker that what are they but can single that when they see how far off the reservation its primary voters, are going well. A few things I say, is paul around to some sources: in the democratic party and the republican party, and I think,

We do need to be cautious about over interpreting it. It's five hundred and forty five adults. I do want to see a lot more polling. It's it's adults, not likely voters. So we shouldn't necessarily at this point say: oh sixty percent of of the public This we need to see more appalling and asked texas stopped gb you're! Absolutely right is an representative minority, but Poland has real problems inside his own conference, as I've reported there is billion inside the Senate geo p among the conservatives against John Conan fur operating with Democrats and negotiating over guns. There have been pretty patient meetings behind the scenes that ms Mckenna has presided over and corn and has it that lunches got members like tat bruce tom, pardon me, pray po Joe? kennedy that this whole,

Josh for what this whole bunch of them, who are really agitating against what corn and is doing so. It's not just the problem he has in the end in the texas jupiter probably has inside his own conference. In washington in the senate, and you can see he starts to get a bit nervous about it. He there was a story that hate you know said: I'm done talking. He went home so this actually may affect what ends up happening in terms of peace. He's ability his negotiating spaces ability to cut a deal with the Democrats, one You know we always here Jonathan. There Ricardo, whatever midge, does whenever people start to criticising you'll, hear somebody say well he's only following where his is comp and says Mitch, has been supportive of of the talks. And seems to be supportive of the outlines of this This suggests that that

I think the majority of the conference isn't with John corn and the others negotiating at least miss connell understands it might be good for the republican party to be on. Oh, I dont know beside of eighty percent of americans instead of thirteen or fourteen percent of americans, yet he asked John Paul into two ladys negotiations, knowing full well having read the powers that this is the he perceives anyway, that this is an issue that republicans need to come to some agreement on that it will be some level of liability, potentially thank god, but again. If the original way this was presented to the republican conference was we're going to come to some agreement that will get the vast majority of the conference. There are a lot of members who were concerned that it would just be a deal where they would get ten republicans and the conference apart, that's where its heading

there's a lot. I cannot emphasise enough. There is a lot of anger inside the republican senate conference corn and about these negotiations, and we are seeing the conference really terror pour over this issue well make it really it's crazy, If there's a lot of anger, this negotiation and you look, how weak the measures are the fact that their even going really after a national red flag law. The fact that not even doing universal background checks of acted again. There, fraid get this, is where the working party is in twenty twenty two on gods, there's so a whole than Do they re there so beholden to gun? you're factors there so hold into the most intense portion. Of their base, they're afraid to be on the side of the night? percent, while vat

is extremism, define and end the gun, lobby and guns itself as sort of of trumpets quality to it? It's going to come back and bite you these shootings are not going to stop to do Want to deal with it now I continue to deal with it because, by the way, we're gonna need a lot more than what spain, scotch asked again. We can have the conversation. Everybody knows where the only country with this problem- and there is a reason why and yes, mental health is a problem to but we're the only country with this problem, and this will come back to get you republican tonight, there. There's a blindness to the republican party that ex away, not only the fact that you consider its filled with intelligent beings, it's not, but it's even if not it. A party that wants to be a part of this country anymore. That wants to look at the constitution. That wants to look at the safety of the people who live in it.

Wants to stand up for law and order than that to stand up for, criticism: it's none of that by the way on Jan sex, retired, federal judge, J, Michael looting, testified and last week, january six committee that quota trumpet and his allies and supporters are a clear and present danger to american democracy and the quote they would attempt to overturn that twenty When you for election in the same way that they attended overturned the twenty twenty election well as looking too, prove judge loaded, correct trump, addressed a crowd out of faith and Adam coalition rally in nashville tenancy. This is not from a year ago, where, continued to parrot may at his lies. Regarding the events of january sixth, including that rioters were not violent.

If it were an insurrection that took place at the capitol you, known adverse, so they would have strong people. These were great patriot. Guns. I heard they didn't have one gun now he was killed. For a wonderful young woman named ashley Bab at who is viciously shot. In my opinion, for apps Thirdly, no reason that was friday, his past friday. He also called what happened Joe that day, I quote simple protest that got out of hand and he unleashed more criticism on former vice. My pants, whose refusal overturn the twenty twenty election results has become a key focus of the january sixth committee. My can. I say of sad because I like em, but my dear

have the courage to act. MIKE was afraid of whatever he was afraid of but, as you heard, year and a half ago. My pants Absolutely no choice, to be a human conveyor belt. Has a human convertible the votes or fraudulent, they said he had to send about. Couldn't do anything, so I said mike. If you do this, you can be thomas jefferson, and then after it all went down. I looked at him one day and is it mike eight to say this no damage every site. Also sad. If he decides to run again for president and his re elected, he would quote seriously look at partners for the general six defendants, my god journal, This to me is I mean we ve talked about this before, but the The fact that it continues now, I just wonder-

this ends up in the least, around what would happen well. You might get charged, what let let's talk about via the judge was exactly right. There are clear and present danger the constitution of the united states, Donald trump, is a clear and present danger. He wasn't be twenty judge, It is right. One of the one of the most revered conservative legal minds over the past generation, is right. He remains unclear. Present danger. He somehow overlooked the fact that this so called simple protests, Led to police officers get just having the hell beaten out of them. One going home and dying of a stroke. The next day. Is actually committing suicide because what they saw that day, He somehow forgot that that is

a party members, his own allies, recalling screaming, begging him to call off the mob that people are going to get hurt. That peat we're going to die and the contempt in- and this is what you know- the people clapping out there I would love to know it. Ralph reed thinks of the people clapping out of their when Donald trump said that my pants couldn't snapped his fingers and complete Yup ended. The car solution, because what Donald trump showed in that meeting. He was absent. Contempt for the constitution, absolute contempt. For why conservatives used to talk about this forest law and order absolute contempt, for our men and women in blue, many of them just beaten since this is not a simple prices. This is not a simple protest that

that that got a little out of control and what what looking at here and what we're looking at woods. Donald trump and we have to say it. Martin Luther king The day we see the truth, and we cease to speak. It is the day we began to die in this case, sky? Is a country we're seeing as arise of fascism in america quake clearly the rise of fascism in the form of donald trump, the fact that he used violence, any he pushed his followers to use violence and many of them now in jail. While he flies the fourth on his private, chat tomorrow, logo suggests that he wants it to happen again and rob that's what we heard that's what we heard that regardless of everything that happened before,

judges right. Donald trump is still a clear and present day in order to the united states of america and the constitution, breath I think there were a couple of things here, Joe one. It is. You must look at the fact that we can just keep letting donald trump say things a challenge to the american public. What are you is saying is either complete nonsense, rewriting history, for example, you just read the crab. He said that the vice president time prince could have been thomas of what What is he saying? Thomas jefferson was, I mean really what does me it had three, the being totally ignorant of all. We did thomas jefferson wasn't three in terms of the founding of a country, in terms of setting up the cost to sheep

drawing mains, which shows that he really looks down on the intelligence of resolve crowd, but actually about things like them, you should not miss is the Democrats It's me to read very carefully whether current he's going because if this pole whether or not we needs to be other appalling. Not let's look at this pole six out of ten Can it now saying you should be charged does now said to the Democrats, if you charge whom you better have a good explanation as to why not otherwise, backfire on you because these are the most democrats, feel tat. They ought to be some referral to the justice department, so in many ways, just like republic need to look at the back. They are out of step, would where the majority americans are cornered is Paul D, crash need to look at the fact that people I expect you to protect this,

accuracy and protect the law and go You need to have a good explanation. Why? So? Yes, the republicans oddly cliff, but the devil Rats. Also don't with me if you're not gonna, take me to the prom I'm curious words. What your thoughts are on with the president's speech, the fact that here, aids unrepentant about riots that he was responsible for, many people there. He can say it wasn't an insurrection, you look there testimony thought it was an insurrection. They thought They were overturning a popular vote, the will of the people and It was an insurrection again in the minds of the very rioters themselves who blame donald trump for sending them there that risk the life. Of the vice president, the united states, he was forty feet most likely away from being killed.

While he was in that much danger, Donald trump through more fire. Nor more gasoline on the fire with a tweet, after he knew that trump and his family was fleeing from the mob nancy policy, whose life was endangered people going around her office is going around the capital looking for nancy policy again, I want to say you have donald trumps clause, just allies getting on the phone screaming and yelling and begging for him. On january, the sex to call off here mob and when Kevin Mccarthy said call them He said, oh, it's antigua! That's when we, Are these screened and yelled and swore adding and said Who do you think I am how stupid you think I am these or your people call them off and of course, we know Donald trump used to call them off and was in fact gleeful

but they were beating the hell out of cops gleeful that they were beating the hell out of anybody. They get their way. So here we are he's unrepentant and he's talk about running for president again, let me sk, I know this. Is you mate of your be comfortable answering this or not, but I talked about eyes of fascism in the united states. I'm just curious how much, danger? You agree that donald trump and his supporters would present a clear and present danger to working democracy if he one in twenty twenty four sure, I do think that he is dangerous to our democracy. I'm not sure I'd give dropped the credit for having a systematic ideology. Like I'm already gas for a bag of resentment, personal thus the guy's a sore loser. That's what comes class when you look at these clear

you just can't get already can't get over the fact that it that a loss and to see him attack one by one people who had been prominent and in most cases, very loyal conservative supporters to see him attack whitepits my pencil at present the pretty much whatever donald trump told him to do, It is now reduced to being called acumen, conveyor belt and weak. Because he wouldn't throw our election rules overboard. Give this man a decree hadn't he entered billboard. But one of the most supported attorney general's present This had in modern times, simulator does, because in the end he stood up for the rule of law would go along with what trap was trying to do. In fact told him You're ideas about about stolen, washing surplus wine that there they don't make any sense

bill bars now consigned to the other. We miss connell who has been trumps basically steadfast, political ally in the senate is now described as a broken down. All pro I shouldn't, I should erotic canada, gas and other private guys know good that at some point even these protract body. Answers have to listen to this just began to scratch. Your heads it's obvious that trump is sitting there brooding watching tv joey. He watched every minute of these areas. You can tell he is a lunatic. Who is this? Guy looted guys that offended that they're right these already these articles in criticising and so Your fundamental point, the republicans are more more out of step with where the country is is, is right in his just right on january sex, it's right on trade on these, you gonna miles right on the issue of abortion rights, the republicans

our steering themselves and the deeper and deeper water. But it's gonna take republican of some to stand up and run against these ideas passionately and effective way. Because otherwise trump still seemed somehow to be able to intimidate people with with. With arguments that are increasingly desperate, and am I in my view, but it take somebody out of courage and intellectual clarity to stand up and say that's not us, that's not the republican party, that's not our country yeah. You know Johnson's one we ve always had debates on abortion. We always had debates on the guns. How much we we regulate guns? What done safety laws surpass? We ve always had a whole series of debates here, though you, somebody that's that's running the cooperation and as people following him that that

really embraces ethno nationalism, these at no nationalists, tells black members of where to go back home to go back where you came from you, look at an you see, and there is also as you see in and other in the past with other fascists is rebirth mess we Go back to how things were in the good old days? these elites these levels these college. Professors. These news, paper at others, these media types vase operated as the from our heritage from our past site. You can one fascist after another, but does that It has done that in the past and then of course, of the use of violence, the one thing that we never really take up through the years that we have now and again. The recent bringing this up is that from showing

a genuine six, wasn't just a little pro. Ass, they got out of hand it's something that he was pushing for and has absolutely no regrets and would do it again. If ebay. I mean this. Is this guy? Is he not a clear and present danger to European democracy is judged. Melodic said why, First, one response, something you debited, nay, she said which is about the density, republicans of courage to stand up against it, There are others, Republicans they just gonna get destroyed interoperable. The primary they have no support among republican voters least chinese. One of those republicans Larry Hogan is one of those republicans Adam kinsey, yours. Why there's five days enough of them mitt romney, but the problem is and I talked to a lot of posters and republican strangest people actually working on this at the camp. Level is the view. In the party is the only way to beat all trunk in a private

It is from the rise. It's from the right. It's not to say all these things are wrong, that that has no purchase with the republican base, and I do think we too for ourselves, reality. Another reality. The Democrats need to anchor themselves in is despite all the things you just said: hispanics an apple and americans are actually supporting donald trump in increasing numbers that europe, can party is doing much better with hispanics the net been and what is now broken down or class grounds, not race grounds, and I had a conversation. Very circumcision lost you with. The Bernie Sanders he very concerned about this- that actually what happening. What we see now,

increasing numbers of working class, hispanics and working class, african americans particular men supporting the republican party and for whatever reason, what democrats assaying isn't actually getting through two versions and will see what happens in a bit terms, and I know everyone The onus is getting on this paul, but I do think that what we being across the country is not actually reflective of what This conversation is, is about you talk about you, talk those numbers? This is something that David shore who word for word obama has been talking about since the election, and you have progressives that had been marking and ridiculing him. Because he's been saying, hey sure said about himself. We white progressives have pulled. Already to a position that end They need to go to you on this that we went that we're too Progressive not only for working

whites were becoming. Who progressive forward Class hispanics were becoming too progressive forward in class, black voters were becoming progressive for our views, we base, and I always talk, but Eric Adams rev, but they get elected, democratic primary in new york city in brooklyn and the bronx and queens for a reason and for some reason I dont get it. You call em latte liberals and you have for a very long time, but for some reason, It seems a lot of people run, The democratic party out of washington d c just can't get this through their heads, They keep losing elections along the taxes border where hispanics our brain in democratic breaking republican yeah. Why does your defining yourself is progressive?

become regressive. When you are in effect, setting the stage for people that are right wing on all of these issues. Then we may believe in getting elected. But yours. Such an idea, log use but you're, not a liberal. That is my way or no way that you would the news, the walk to win or lose ego battle. Then I think that that is what is being reflected by some men some t knows that same wait, a minute. You gone too far. We afraid of yes, police, This conduct in and brutality, but we have today The gun, violence and we have to deal with crime in our communities that is killing our families and you too, save to see bad. Did you not progress for me and I think that that is what is coming to bite the party just like you. It fully raise that when are we going to see some people? What enough courage on our right to set up

to these extremists. That's not a problem has been able to project you. Ve gotta have courage on the left to say wait a minute when we fight for justice for george fry we're not saying in policing with saying better policing and noodles it was you regions be to us. You do busy you mixed lahti and had the international law that causes hamish, laugh wreck, jonathan soya tee. Tell your father. I sense one thanks very much for your affording we'll see once again soon- and still I had on morning Joe this is excited my where he was once a jonathan joy, Jonathan, ok, we didn't want you to know, try, Objections have been duly noted to that Paul is just one paul. It is just one snapshot. You are

no! No! I I think I think you're exaggerating like the other thing is, I just wanna say you know with the whole legal conversation I just. I just remembered the moon days when conversation, you guys the walls, closing in annex one people to think. Maybe the walls are exactly where they always were. You know we saw this with Manhattan d. There's a lot of certainly very excited about a lot of this stuff and it doesnt actually come to bear. Why and listen. We spent two years at least to two and a half years hearing everyday The donald trump was about to go to jail. I I made it very clear last week on the show. The old adage. No man is above the law no longer applies, it certainly doesn't apply to donald trump, and regardless of what is done here, I fully says I liked him to walk because he's just dies. He always gets away with it. He does

anybody here saw Ella confidential, he is rollo tomasi he's the guy that always gets away. I can cargo on one monday morning. At least in one paul for one brief shining moment, sixty percent of americans sake, Kind of a bad thing for if the president to run an insurrection, jonathan swan. Thank you so much john for throwing cold water on my head. I have a good way. It must be done by the way coming up Joe. This is a story that is impacting anybody who finally wants to take a vacation or go somewhere to get out and hove at times, and you know, go family? Thousands of additional flights are scrubbed across the country. Just as the summer travel seize up we're going to tell you what causing the mass of the airports and whether there is any relief anytime soon, because the issue, is labor

oil. There, yes, will have more on the moment in texas, when the crowd turn that republican senator John cordon alley. Gosh, eight or for applied partisan granville will tell you how he respond. Also. I have the january six committee continues. Public hearings this week and the pair once testimony from too high profile people, tell you who they are, and so country say they support ukraine, but they're not backing it up with actual aid, a news it finds a small european country has done more than germany more than four more than ITALY, your morning. Job will be right. Back, kids are curious. That's what indicators all about, but with that curiosity comes challenges and sometimes dangers as apparent,

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proxies pulling shows that there is a lot of strength behind some of these proposal at this. At this point, in these proposals, background checks for guns which by most of them are background checks before Do a purchase. Eighty percent, though, moving the legal age for an assault rifle purchase as an eighty two percent flagging for people who are a danger to themselves or others as red flag laws. Eighty one percent of banning assault weapons. Sixty three percent there is a lot of momentum, at least among the public sphere. For doing this. Are you out of step with your constituents? First of all, who what's important is that we look out for the rights of constituents. Constituents arrest, pull questions. There not asked questions about specific language within legislative texts. The job at the lawmaker, to look out for the interest and the rights of the law abiding citizens they represent. Well there whereby absolutely nothing any of that engage in any of the legislation that would you

remotely touch in second amendment rights as interpreted by the supreme court and a yellow over the past two hundred and twenty thirty years. So I'm not We shall again say always hide behind the second amendment when, in fact, if you the second amendment and look at how it's been interpreted by this conservative court, there's nothing. There, the republican, senator mightily of ta has using the worry about a thing. He has to worry about It went answer: why he's not supporting a gun reform bill? That would contain measures that overwhelming number of american support make us a try. Explain, Why has such contempt. For the overwhelming majority of americans and also contempt for the elegance of people in his own state, because what he sank just not drag it. So sick and tired of

people who lie about the second amendment does say and what it does say, and that's all So many republican seem to know how to do it every time I hear them saying things like this. I just think: do you not think there's gonna be a mass shooting in utah look at the numbers and in it they speak for them tells the story speaks for itself and the story Can I come to a town near you, I'm not saying edna or alluring wham saying it, because I'm frightened for this country What are the two faced back and those who were the assault weapons? people want to represent their district if they want to protect their p, They made the pass publics if the laws that would do that, what bridges kept falling down right and people kept getting build all over america. There would be such an outcry

and people go oil that they're so the branches in the constitution. Well, guess what what mode republicans are saying about guns. That's not in that our institution in the second amendment is very clear. Hell is very clear. You a gull across the nation can advocates for more. Aggressive gun safety laws than white cod, he's trying to pass and supreme court has refused to overturn Many of those laws? Kids are curious. That would mean a kid is all about, but that. Curiosity comes challenges and sometimes dangers as apparent Do your best to keep them safe, healthy and happy through at all, so they can be well kids. Being a kid can be hard, So we do everything we can to help you be the best parent you can be with free or low cost health coverage for all pennsylvania. Kids, learn more at chip covers ba kids, dot com paid for with tense having a taxpayer dollars.

Their objective- and if you love me the press of some great nets, you can also get a daily dose of politics news put analysis on our new show its press now everyday, beyond the headlines to explain what's happening in politics we got here and why man also talk the votes on both sides the owl about the issues this country faces and how what's happening in washington impacts. All you could watch me to press now, every week date for pm eastern streams, free NBC news. Now, let's available on all streaming platforms, here is the moment, senator John coronet of texas to top republican involved in the bipartisan gun legislation negotiations. It was booed on friday. Ass. He spoke at the texas republican convention.

In november. Thank you. God bless you, and may god continue to bless heartbreak state of texas. Ring corn and speech, some audience members could be heard booing and chanting quote no red flag and apparent reference to this They laws that allow guns to be confiscated from people considered to be a danger. To themselves or society resilience amid the back, corn and did insists that we're certain lines he wouldn't cross, telling the crowd I will not under any circumstance, support new restrictions. For law, abiding gun owners that will always, my red line and despite what

Some of you may have heard the framework that we are working on. Consistent with that red line after he was booed corner was also heard, saying, boat. I know given to mobs and I'm not starving to death for him brand jonathan merit hard to believe that and the crowd out there were buoy red flag laws, they white Ten year olds are crazy. Do are insane travilla able to walk and who are troubled. They want people who have been who were banned. Flagged as dangerous. Be able to go out and buy what the war on their re birthday in go shoot up. Schools I mean what could they be against basic public safety laws. Again I want to say basic public

the laws that are one constitutional to consistent with a second amendment, three consistent with our and for would save why it's and I've enjoyed the support of the vast majority of them africans are John cournand, though certainly true and through republican, actually, it looks like a moderate compared to a lot of the texas stagey appear. I now gathering over the weekend adopted a measured. The referred to Joe Biden has the acting president, not recognising his. The legitimacy of his victim, We heard the buzek for corn, who is Mitch recalls led negotiator on this gun deal Mcconnell him self has signalled that he would support it, but as with jobs want hinted at earlier. There is growing concern about the future. This legislation is a real uprising among the conservatives in the republican party in that carcass about any sort

measure to be passed in the wake of the tragedies and evolving in buffalo. This day, was it last week the framework to actual legislation has not been drafted, yet there are still working on that now setter murphy of kinetic deleting democrat on the committee, he says that he'd still does believe this will get there is a sense so that it might slip again that it might not be finished this week, which had been the goal before the sad disappears for a two week July fourth recess, and there has concern from the beginning about momentum at about timing doesn't get done right away more time, lapses. The last chance there is of getting finish. And this is the incremental measure, a best progress to be sharp, perhaps not a lot. So therefore there is a real crunch share to try to get at least some firm commitments done, even if it's not paper by, we said yeah me too what it, what a line for Republicans there there on the wrong side of ninety ten issues when it

comes to gone safety there on a public safety there on the wrong side of joy issue. Seventy authority when it when it comes Mr White's about to come down and the supreme court they're putting people live actor, oz, J D, vance, herschel walker, having that when republican nominations making today can and Christine, but god like Benjamin franklin alexander hamilton aids, real this is a rough time for a pub can you actually want to wear the Senate elections coming up in the fall again. The house is the house. It's gerrymandered. You can see as many kooky things you want to say and probably survive. I'd sell with a lot of these senate race while there are some important components to this gun legislation and that you know I don't know. Second throw joining us now, former federal prosecutor, now the district attorney of new york, chester, county, mimi roca

back on the show great to have you made me one provisions. Is this boyfriend loophole? Can you explain what that is? I expressly back with the meagre settled. This is actually, I think people really understand. Those tell me even more shocked to what you're talking about Is the thing that republic, in some republicans hundred hours, are going to use to hold up sensible gun legislation? The boy friendly Paul right now understand our law working decade, domestic violence, offences cannot by our own guns s. Partner defined under law, which has a certain definition, were merry issue or they father of a child with the crew said they created the advancing asked the way friendly call says,

if you're, not one of those categories but you're still convicted of domestic violence and you're gonna wanna die. So in the room of people that they are holding a gun, sensible dynamo legislation for, however, you define it into a husband boyfriend whatever it is. We are talking about people who had domestic violence convictions since in point earlier about hiding behind the second amendment. The second amendment. Does it protect people who have been invaded were her current orders of protection against that? That is literally hiding behind the second amendment, and I dont understand for the life of me why anyone would hold up legislation that can save the lives of innocent people. Innocent children to protect domestic violence users, so that's what we're talking about people throwing around by that

It comes down to it that there are certain centres that are looking to retract. For some reason, domestic violence, abusers over the lives of innocent people. Isn't that the real problem which you just raise- and that is that the messaging is not being strongly made leave yes, she was strongly enough. Being a because we really debating people that have really come with. I think that the average american wouldn't dare tolerate. Did they just took wood was at stake and I'm hearing people putting the pressure on the condon's and all from the right. But I don't see many of us on the other side of this weather with sensors are or progressed say wait a minute we're talking about exactly what you're talking about as

return which might saving lives and what they are talking about is ludicrous is not law at all. That's right. I completely agree with you. We really. I think we have to start pointing it out that it is a small group of politicians who Here we are able to extremist views and then, when it comes to gather safety, that the issue we cannot have guns in the hands of people who we know either have been convicted of crimes like domestic violence war. And this is where the red flag laws come in or who are showing signs and were temporarily delegates that they may be a danger to themselves or to others

mass shootings. There are warning signs. It is not the first time it shows signs of significant trouble when they go and shoot up a school or a grocery store. So the red flag laws are such an important tool, which is why we need me have them at the state level. New york, as you know, has some of the strongest gun laws in the country and that's great and they work when we put them to work effectively, but we needed at the national level because guess what guns aren't manufactured in new york state they're manufactured in other states with me or in the us and abroad? Maybe I'll say I hear about this issue from my constituents across westchester county every day. I also hear about it from law enforcement. They want less guns on the street. They want sensible guns, safety legislation, so it isn't just it is not a party issue it is if the issue

for sure we saw that a new vol de straight out, meaning roca. Thank you very much for being on the show this morning come back by the way, also at that taxes, be a convention where senator corn was booed. Public and congressmen, Dan Crenshaw and his staff were confronted by far right protestors. I can imagine a web browser, you heard them call, canada is this? Is it this is needed? Sales, as I maybe she'll, he lost his eye, while fighting in afghanistan The thing is what we have meagre is weak,

a political movement that heaps utter contempt against anybody that that that opposes their freakish world view of where washing it should go where america should go here. You have, in this case. You have a navy seal and there there there mocking hem, because is he wears an eyepatch new? Have. The military, being attacked by by these group of people our leaders of the military being attacked just like they were attacked in the nineteen sixty from, but by four laugh! But you you have our terry leader is being attacked. You have conspiracy. Theories military is going to use helicopters against the american people that they used enough.

I understand you have a tax, of course, against pull, these officers on on on capitol hill, people that were beat up some who died and are marked as as actors, You have, the fbi continue we attack, because the f b I dared to investigate donald trump David Ignatius it is it is, philly jarring to see an american hero that is, provides so much for his country being attacked like this and yelled the cause of a war injury it doubly soldier because it was the ipad mccain phrase firstly eyepatch a sign of his heroism service and, second, the Mccain part. Michael to another war hero.

Senator John Mccain, who suffered terribly anna mercedes prison camp. But but somehow got on the wrong side of donald trump, because he would agree with him on everything and so these people are now subjects of derision, for some on the right what I liked As the way in which Dan Crenshaw Dismissed this house who was shouting at em in the blue that we called on television and basic call them a guy, you couldn't get any girlfriends or sunlight battle to serve as the top down and added jerry it just goes to show you can get all spun up about it if you're dan cruncher, but he did They just see just said this guy's a loser and I'm not gonna take up seriously. You know to the larger argue argument discussion. We ve been having a swarming jamaica,

these things are not going to change until republicans pay a price for ideas that are so far out of step with what the voters want as long as they can get away with it politically because of how congressional, districts are stacked how the base their party overwhelms sense more people in the middle of their party, continue, but but the politics runs like most things on fear and the minute people are afraid. These ideas, out of step with what what the polls show are gonna get a defeated people and change the something somehow. This connects with trump is uneven january. Six at the hall after a quick break, we'll be right. Back kids were curious. That would mean the kid is all about but the that curiosity comes challenges, and sometimes dangers as apparent do your best to keep them safe, healthy and happy through it. All

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