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while hearing number, four into the january six capital attack gets under way later today focused on an old trumps efforts to pressure state officials into returning the election Meanwhile, there is new reporting this morning that trumps team has found a fall guy well tell who or what trump reportedly told confidence about the lawyer who devise the plant overturned. They allow sure eastman. We hardly knew you'd always happens, and they always seem so shocked, plus president by considers a move to provide a bit of relief at the gas pump, but he needs congress to agree. We also pact. More economic data this morning that could offer clues into whether the u s s headed toward session also the

crippling labor shortage the latest industry to feel the pressure airlines with more. Chaos and cancelled flights. Sam Bessys Brian Sullivan this tending by to discuss if the lack of labour is as big a threat the economy as relation and energy costs was. You are a member your family like to fly a jumbo jet, yeah did show. Have we at a job. That is a dial. The problem is, it takes so long to become a qualified to fly and there are not pilots, and so often people are waiting crazy or their flights are literally cancelled out underneath them good morning and welcome to morning joe it's tuesday twenty first with us, we have wiped out They are cheap at political and the host of wage? You early jonathan, le maire and paws israeli columnist columnist associate editor of the washington post eugene

robinson good to have you both Jane ruminant. We're all novels got a hard to be like Maybe it's because I grew up in a navy town. I grew up in pensacola, which was sort of the annapolis of the air. Everybody There's that I'm gonna go serve country. Venom Five or dealt are, then: I'm gonna fly for american hand. It was, it was hard, you know the guys that we're a little slower. Game you now they were flying cargo jets. It was straight out a top gun, but it was. It was a hard job together, now man, you eat, the delays that chaos and airports are drawdown. Pottery are really backed up because a lot of these pilots just getting a lot of the flight of tens of had enough

yeah right and what are you gonna do because, as me cosette, it takes a while to learn to become an airline pilots. That's a good thing right. We really know what they're doing so. So, let's look worked towards this, but I'd rather work through this than less than a quick fix. I'll. Tell you. Yeah? I think so, weird, hours away from the fourth public hearing by the january six committee, this afternoon. We're going to hear more about this infamous call. All I want to do is this. I use one thought I eleven thousand Seven hundred and eighty loves which is one more that we have, because we, on the same. So what are we going to do about? I only need eleven thousand fellows. I need eleven thousand votes, gimme a break. That's it just stumbling around. That was, of course, title does donald trump

king george, a secretary of state brad. Absence, burgers days before the insurrection telling We need. You lie down deal the election for me. I need you define hold on how many votes are we ve behind jean luc can't we're alive and thousand seven hundred and seventy nine we may hide since we need of eleven thousand seven hundred and eighty You know I've been saying over the past week several weeks, but really several months. Donald trump gets away with absolutely they think I must say georgia? If there's something for him to be worried about? Maybe it's not where the manhattan d, you seem to be scared of his own shadow. Perhaps it's down in georgia, where we ve got on tape. Sank. Need you, MR secretary of state, to steal? The election?

an audiotape, the best friend of the prosecutor, said you hear you hear the former president committing the crime. You have it all on tape. He is just all you need to do is play the tape so so yeah georgia could really be a problem for him. He could be prosecuted there and, as I said, the evidence is one is overwhelming, is dispositive. He is guilty. Rapids Ensberg one of three republicans testifying today. The other two are reference burgers top deputy gave sterling and ours The house speaker rusty bowers, who says trump and rejoice. Adi called him after the election asking for help to overcome president bindings victory in this It will also hear from shame or say, former georgia elections, workers, g and herman. Other were targeted in a debunk. Voter fraud. Conspiracy pushed by giuliani trump and other operators make this is this. Is

quite a line up. I which important line up with me low these people obvious the secretary of state and his assistant were too applicants who came out with bought guns blazing before body. Elsie wait a second chance you're trying to steal the election were gonna. Let them do it. You look at risk you bowers, let's just say just say what it is in arizona right now. Arizona's republican party has been taken over by the biggest fringe element there, bunch of lunacy they are crazy people, their weirdos freaks conspiracy, terrorist, and yet you have people Rusty bowers, you have other republicans, people maricopa board that we're counting of us that time and time again pushed back second spirited varies It's really need these people

done such a great service for america. I would say the same thing for democrats, who of course did there thing like Al Gore, for instance, conceding the election when he conceded the election when he could have kept fight, that for months and months, and they miss maws, Jonathan mayor who I I'm glad- I seen a pit- for now, because I, way away. Many people send me emails and semi conspiracy, theory posts from chinese considers conspiracy, websites and Chinese religious cults, where they had the whole. They they had the conspiracy theory, georgia. Oh there were about Some balance of ages picked up from underneath the table and they took away. We work that and we know that's just as stupid as a jewish space lasers. We know that's just as stupid as all the other conspiracy theories but if there's somebody on the other end of that story who faces death, death threats,

because of the lies at all, conspiracy theories and crackpots send around yeah and she and her mother she's a election worker, our mother a volunteer, and they were. Doing their bleed their civic duty and staffing the election, and they came under because of a video footage taken of them and alligators students spurious allegations that they were trying to rig the election. As you say, pulling out a box of ballots, none of the true, but its of steering floated by regionally ani than the present trodden, troms lawyer and then later trump himself and other trump allies on twitter, enmity appearances, where miss loss and her mother received. Such scrutiny. They received death threats, In fact she is given. Our accounts of a person is shown up at our door late at night, banging threateningly either. She would call nine one one repeatedly, because she was afraid of being followed, that she was afraid that her life was in jeopardy because of these unfounded allegations of election.

Misconduct, durst again stress no truth that whatsoever. Think. For the committee's perspective, she puts a real human face on this, to show that the lives change, altered and endangered, because of these lies, That's a dang. If you're aging any. You send around conspiracy theory side. This target. Other people understand you putting their I at risk, you should that by now, you look at the pizza gate, the guy and showed up ready to shoot the place up, because he believed the lies about Hillary Clinton being a being a file and been children. A hidden in a pizza restaurant in Washington dc come on glow and I'm I'm curious sec. Why miss moss in her mother? Don't sue rudy giuliani for four lying about the might consequences again the consequences pretty devastating for their lives in spring and right now, congressional investigations born for the watching, post, jackie

jackie. What are we I to see today that this topic of political violence, Joe, is going to be a pretty big topic. We already saw Adam Kensington get out there on the sunday shows and say that the death threats against him and his family have increased, and we know as this morning that law makers are actually looking to ramp up their own security and we're going to hear that from people like rusty, bowers and shame moss, how the former presidents false claims of election fraud, which again the committee's going to drive home that he knowingly was propagating these false claims. Despite being told was times that that there was no they're they're appended their wives that that. The mosses had to go into hiding, essentially protects their identity and and it it really was a pretty terrifying ordeal for them and continues to this day. Rusty bowers as well as going to testify to that experience, and then we're going to hear from grad ref berger and gave sterling who are going to talk about the van

the explicit pressure campaign that we saw from the former president that is included in audio, but for the first time we're going to hear directly from then discussing this audio. How that made them feel what sort of tensions it it created ends the toxic political and partisan environment that it contributed to dump Alex just told me by the way, this war, and her mother did sir giuliani and away and they get a settlement. Car fare. You know jean we're going to continue with the january six, storing but but Jake just brought violence, and yesterday I talked a good bit about how republic so certain wing of the republican party, the trumpet the party especially are using violent threats, violent imagery and violence itself in a way that shows its a fascist movement. So

but before we continue one january the sex. I want to remind you again remind our audience again about the comments. Are tired federal judge, J, I concluded made last week in the january six hearing, saint quote: donald trump and his allies and supporters are clear and present danger to can democracy keep that in mind? and I want you to see what a former government Missouri now a senate candidate has put out campaign ad that, like a hundred other republican, adds this cycle use guns against its violence against this primary upon its take a look so at this asked former its former missouri r, Eric greitens, who is vying to fill a vacant senate seat in the state, and he really stay out yesterday and we'll just show you video here. He announces that these laws when he announced, as he's going quote, rhino hunting ryan,

obeying the acronym for republicans, in name only holding a gun, the video. This depicts- and armed brightens bursting into a house alongside men in tactical gear. He also encourages viewers to quote, join the mega crew and rhino hunting permit facebook, parent company matter says it removes the video from its sides, because it violated rose laws about violence twitter, if, like the video but did not yet so hold on a second, so yeah these. We can't show this add gene, I guess I thought we were going to shy words- cause us to violate you. Have you right wing and kicking down a door with guns and tells everybody- to follow him and and Right now is is better.

Equally again repeat what is your name is what really stupid people call other republicans who disagree with them and by the way, stupid people pay. Tromp or even calling people rhinos an end, It's for moderate republicans, republicans and disagree with that. One on the inside action, but again there's a guy carrying a guy with other people, and they are hunting out their political opponents. And again it's this is fascism. I I tried I tried to bring this up and there are a couple of people that are being polite yesterday going well, you know, maybe we shouldn't call it fascism, and I don't know whether it's it's fascism, this violence and violent imagery. To do basically tell people vote for me, for wars coming, I'm gonna, yellow it's it's it's! It's

it's where we are its, where the republican party is right now and everybody It needs a call this out unless they want fascism that continue to rise in their party, benito mussolini, would be proud and just one question about this is making terrorist threats of federal crime, and we will use this literally anyone. You know, I'm I'm like a reach beach, pretty much absolute as but this is this is threatening its threatening its prey of primary products or anyone who lady Republican dares disagree him with out with with assault with a swat team assault that would kill them. Let me what do you know? This is absolutely impermissible and theirs

There has to be sought in some way. This can be sanctioned, there's a lot. This is not right. This is not acceptable in political decisions is nigh legitimate, but what about those choruses around working party? My call it anyway. This is a terrible, is right. They do Jane. This is This is what they do and make it we we've had several examples, so you know there's a member of congress, whose name I'm am not going to mention who was holding, and I are fifteen and said that it will had to go after the squad and then showed for democratic congresswomen. The picture is well basically hiding for Members of congress- and we see this time and time again- republicans- don't call it out we're saying it here with a great and that I would hope republicans when called this up. But they are stone. So again I just underline again we're talking about.

The rise of american fascism. You can look at january six, you can get it's like this. You gonna look at continued use of violence and the imagery you can get donald trump telling his audience members to beat people up in the audience. I disagree with them. It's fascism, and this is why unfold in that way. This is the I think that needs to matter when you're you're casting your phone, which is very hard to say, because this country is a lot of problems and we a lot of growing pains we still need to go through. We have a lot of issues which we fallen back on, but right now this the issue to vote on an even keel Clinton made that clear it's either. We move forward toward continuing a democracy or we fall into something very dark and very frightening and very real not an exaggeration. At this point, especially when you look at how this pervading our politics from the bottom up all started pretty much by

Donald trump. There are a lot of other reason from past presidencies that we got here. We can have that conversation. We can make all that blame, but this where we are. This is what matters it's, not democrat republican firms of voting. No, no! It's it's not in its lot, democracy, a growing wing inside the report. In part. In really again, we can debate abortion, wakened debate, gun we can debate, and we, of course we can debate gas, rising, easing weaken debate. A thousand different issues before a growing wing of the republican party it's just straight out. Proto receive verses, anti democracy, and you look whether its vladimir whether its or by you are our whether it's just fascism. Please go on you,

Google machine and look up the definition of fascism and and well It was in germany, whether its in italy, wherever it is. It is pushing aside of democratic norms, the use of violence to do that. The use of violent edwards reader do that the glorification of violence to achieve whatever means necessary, use whatever means necessary to achieve it'll control and push aside democracy and its apple, over and over again and jonathan mere this is. This is obviously a political battle for dinner. Grats to take part in, but I do keep wondering when the hell there's going to be just one or two republicans with a national platform that stand up. Actively call this out and aggressively go again said and say: this is not do we want to be here: heard from Adam kinsey or the

Looking congressmen, who is the often one of the few voices willingly condemned these sort of elements within his party? He, of course also sits on the jerry six committee. Please announced he's not running for reelection, so arranged to be seen whether more powerful voices in the party will condemn this. We condemn brightens behaviour. Grains, of course, has a very chequered passports to resign. There have been allegations against him about domestic abuse. He denies that and thus also remember this ad horrifying, as it would be at any point in a vacuum comes a backdrop on a national on guns, you we're just weeks from mass shootings in buffalo ended at school in text, the senate trying this week to get legislation done on weapons this add comes forward, but as I could political sought. It might work

greitens, isn't a crowded primary field in Missouri there, it's a state that has trended very, very republican in recent years. There is an issue. This is the effort you make we trying to break through. If this is the one thing people are talking about, that might be for some republicans to support him. Of course, other republicans, I hope it will be the exact opposite of people back away from him because grains because of how tough his background is just one who stands a chance to lose potentially to a Democrat. This fall. If he's the nominee Yeah I mean it might encourage that fascist wing of the republican party and again you gotta be able to say that without flinching, because that's who he is that true People are that stormed the capital. Sue, Donald trump is a people again better inciting violence, encouraging violence using violent the jury. They also happen to be the same: people or pushing an f, no nationalist world view. So

What we see happening but yet again to things two things are happening: Missouri is becoming more conservative is, public and they becoming more fascist, I don't think so. But will say if this actually does help brightens, that's a very sign for the people of Missouri Jackie. Let me ask you about today is generally six hearing also you talk about violence is going to be a part of it, but also, of course, we're talking about those two legislators. A good example of talked about arizona before we we actually had a supreme. Justice, his wife reaching out asking them to throw out the than all the votes in arizona and send their own set of illegal all actors. Do you think we're gonna hear about that? a real you're about that and other states as well

Are we going to hear about that, but just to put a pen in this conversation on on violence? I think what the committee has understood more so than previous congressional investigations is that facts can't necessarily change minds here, but feelings can, which is why we're seeing such an emphasis on having people like mrs moss, come and speak and speak to these intimidation. Tactics that have a serious chilling affects not just for people who are potentially running for office, but election workers who are just trying to participate in democracy and the way that these things undermine democracy overall. But the alternate schemes of electors are definitely going to be. A big focus. Today were not totally shore. If Juny thomas is going to be raised at all. We know that was under discussion yesterday amongst committee members. But what were hearing is that it might actually not be completely relevant to the bigger picture story of John east means legal coup in the implementation of it, although what jenny Thomas was doing was obviously in line with this

ploy that Johnny Spain was proposing to the former president along with state legislatures and now think we're going to hear a lot about how the pressure was was really. The overwhelming on these state players to submit phony slice of electors in order to halt the electoral certification, or at least apply pressure on the vice president to send it back to the state legislatures to sort of actually implement the president's planted to overturn his defeat while the washing? Jackie ella many? Thank you very much. We'll see you again real soon as we watch these hearings schedule for today. The economy. Now president Biden says he may call on congress tooth spend the federal gas tax, a move that could save drivers as much as eighty cents per gallon Y know. Officials say the administration hopes to offer relief in time for the busy July fourth hardy weekend, because again

tax holiday requires congressional action one. I'd house official acknowledges it would be a challenge, let spring insane busies, Brian Sullivan Brian, for that, on top of everything else, that's going on with the economy. Would this help and Why? Wouldn't it get through congress?. I wouldn't hurt it. Eighteen, censoring, and by the way that would assume that the local gas station owner the marketers were fired distributors when they passed and along the eu I mean local gas station owner. He may just keep that eighteen sends a gallon. Who knows it can't hurt I state gas tax holiday make it would probably be a little more affair have given it state gas taxes tend to be a lot higher. Generally in california and pennsylvania in places like that. Ten cents, a gallon is probably about maybe twenty. Thirty dollars a month for most people, but the price of gas has already gone up about

two bucks a gallon from last year, you asked will get through, probably not because the federal gas tax goes to pay for roads, so there estimates that, if you spend it for a month, maybe call that fifteen billion that's money it's going to have to be repaid anyway by taxpayers to go onto the road fund. So will it happen we'll see? Will it help probably not much? right up. Let me ask you about labour the issue of the labor. Obviously an ongoing crisis. There seems to be the labour shortage everywhere. You look, we we ve been talking about the airlines, but you also I have so many other people that that talk about recruiting top talent and telling him when the start date is and then they just don't show up talk about the labor crunch and how it's impacting the economy.

Well, it's impact in the airports in a big way, and by the way I mean airlines laid people off, gave early retirement or the pandemic, and now they're desperate for people to come back. Why would they? I don't know the airports are a complete after six thousand cancelled or delayed flights around america over the way, and by the way I tweeted out a picture, we had an issue with delta. We use the to find out about a delayed flights. It said it estimated wait time six hundred and ninety seven minutes Joe hours. That's gotta double news: five thirty the morning yesterday, but still dilemma hours. It was only four, so we feel like we got lucky, listen, whether it is airline industry, pete bullet judge. Had his flight cancelled from dc to new york on friday, the department rotation secretary? driving from dc to new york,

on friday, because is your european buddha judge your flight doesn't take off? What does that mean? For the rest, us listen labour, participation rate down by about one percent. I know doesn't sound like a lot meagre, but one percent, An economy of over a hundred million workers is more than a million people, and it is a serious risk to the economy longer term. If you can't grow the economy, did the autonomy, their stalls or control because you have to pay those people willing to work more, which is wage inflation, no growth, higher inflation is that of the word, Joe stag inflation. Let's hope we don't get there let's have nine sandwiches brian solvent? Thank you very much for coming on this morning. We appreciated- and still I had on morning, Joe a spokesman for Vladimir Putin says he can't guarantee Tell u s military veterans captured in ukraine one face the death penalty will have new and be seniors exclusive interview with dmitri pascal plus

the strongest remarks yet from a west an official in regards to russia. Why a top EU european union, diplomat is accusing moscow of a war crime also morning, more questions surrounding the police response to the uvalde shooting a new report finds certain armed with rifles and at least one but stick shield or end school now, Ten minutes after the gunman, so why didn't they act sooner? They had the shield plus democratic, senator guns will join us discuss where the new bipartisan guns safety legislation stands on. Cap Oh hell, a lot going on this morning, you're watching jobs will be right back

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We should note that russia is cracking down on journalists and lebanon, what they can say under the threat of imprisonment. The kremlin's first comments of the two american veterans on the front line ukraine were captured by pro russian force is russian. Television has broke out interviews with two americans captured in ukraine, alex tricky and Andy when Where are they? Who is? with them and what happens next. Theirs, there's a fortune and they were involved in illegal activities on the territorial ukraine they were involved in firing in shaping our our military personnel. They were endangering their life, there should be held responsible for those crimes that they have committed. That exclusive interview. I asked criminal spokesmen dmitri pascal about that British nationals and american capture separatist rebels in ukraine, now intends to that lawyers.

You guarantee that these americans will not face the same fate Now I cannot guarantee anything. It depends on the investigation asked about another american being held in russia, w a star brittney griner, who was detained at the airport in february, accused carrying babe cartridges. We Has she soil she was coming to take part sporting russian effectively trying to build bridges through sport it's a terrible messages and that she should be arrested in his own. The terrible mesh message to to bring some forbidden essences handed materials to this country and is prosecute. By russian laws. The space Your presidential envoy for hostage affairs is now leading the. U S, efforts to secure ryan is release so do we, Wes government is now approaching this as a hostage situation which travel disagree with that? We cannot call her hostage.

She violated russian law, now. She is being prosecuted, nature leaders now warning of a long conflict in ukraine. It may one view russia, greece, on our way, for a long conflict here, Yes, it will be a long, lasting crisis, a trust west anymore. I really like you and really fine line that care was walking there, given the constraints for reporters but Joe. What he's This overall costs may have these days to americans who are fighting for ukraine plus this basketball star. Well, let's talk generally about what's been going on and by the way, the russians. If you work, I guess russian government. It is a requirement. You lie through your teeth, it's what they've done is what they're doing it's, what they've always done and will I trust the west again. Please, please you have the russians who have lied

brain over again about their intentions with ukraine. Over and over again about launching a war committing war crimes left and right, a trust and I will say, and the atrocities I've got to say I have. I have agreed with the binding administration to this point in and with the price red wine that has been drawn between the polish border in the ukrainian border, but I've gotta, at this point. At this point in the war jean we see most of the fighting going on in the east, I'm not so. The united states shouldn't do what it did in syria, when Vladimir Putin was going around bombing hospitals there so sure we shut and work with an international organization and establish a humanitarian zone that reach across western ukraine protects ukrainians place where they know they can go and if it takes in hey that takes in cave

point just let vladimir putin now he's not going to establish the boundaries of this war and he's not going to be able to continue to commit or crimes without paying a price well, Well, that's one! I I get that and that's difficult to implement it's, but but you are right that this phase of the war is different from the first phase and and now that the russians are just basically killing people pounding targets for, really for no reason they blob our rocket in them. Kids, just They feel like they, no real military, objective and

I can do this sort of thing indefinitely now that they are taking hostages in the way that that they have that we've just talked about it. You know it gets. It gets time for a kind of continual rethink of our strategy. That's it it's hard to to think of exactly how you implement this humanitarian corridor without running, the rest of the Biden administration says it doesn't want to run, which is direct conflict between the united states and russia. That's, that thing everybody was to see, except maybe, a lot of important because he seems to be pushing things in that direction and there is a breaking boy. I'm not sure we reach that breaking point yet or that tipping point. But, but this is it, this is gonna be awful. This is going to be awful for months and potentially years

which is why Jonathan mayor Joe Biden was in the obama administration, when they kept saying, we can't do anything with syria thousand syrians died. So do we do anything when fifty thousand syrians died. When hundred thousand syrians died said it's just too complicated when two hundred thousand syria inside this had now. We just can't go when when four hundred thousand syrians died, so they always just it's beyond our reach, we just don't know what to do. Half a million syrians die, go where we do have some troops in syria. Now we did it'd be humanitarian, sound the russians charged twenty five hundred of our troops and about one hundred one hundred of them got killed in five minutes, and you know they're there is. There is no reason why We can't go when peacefully With other allies set up a security zone And western ukraine and

and what the russians now we're just here allowing refugees to come, be in this be in their own country and this house has secured, do not Does this red line and let let him threaten world war? Three all you want. The threaten world war. Three, if we're not going, there asked offensively, but just going there to provide humanitarian assistance. Then you know it might be something that we have. Look at Jonathan. I I'm curious what what's the white house plan for the next week, he climaxed law in the next six months. The next year is just going to be more of the same, but the war has evolved up to this point that we shouldn't discount anything, but at the moment show there aren't discussions to have as one like that. In fact, the president continues to say that it is in line he will not cross to deploy us

india, you cry in any way shape or form. In fact, he was been pretty stern this week about how he doesn't want american ex military or volunteers to be over there either. Now we ve seen a few people capture reports last night at the second american killed during the combat whose fighting on the ukrainian side. The focus at this point remains shore alliances and pushing money and weapons and supplies to the craniums and that's the presents focused when he had himself heads overseas next week. He leave saturday for a pair of crucial summits, the meeting of the G7, the nations, the wealthiest nation in the world that are being germany and then on to nato in spain I'll beyond that trip with president bring reporting for the show and the presents mission is going to be to rally those members rally those nations say: look this is the difficult new phase? It's a it'd, be a bloody conflict there in the east

potentially months and maybe years, and that's where Putin's betting on the western attention will wait. That long Strong commitment to giving money and weapons will fall walter, and that he can outlast them and eventually take bigger, bigger pieces of ukraine. President Biden's mission is to prevent that and he's going to try to rally the countries and then, as you, seven is going to try to rally these nato members as well as get filament sweden in to try to assuage turkey. These concerns there to bolster that alliance. That's going to be his mission and that is set are focused for this white house is to keep ukraine. Well What for battle that may rage for a very long time well- and that is one of your prudence bet maker, and it is up to Joe Biden. It is nato is the EU

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Early warning on the mail order and university time, believable make it's unbelievable. Documents reviewed by the asked in american statesmen reveal police office. Four inside the school armed with high powered rifles and the first ballistic shield at eleven. Fifty two a m. So that's nineteen minutes The gunman entered the school, but they didn't the door to take him down for another hour for fifty eight more minutes. This photo from date. Says tribune shows at least two ballistics hold on the scene of twelve or far for Joe one man, I'm sure what the hell. What, though, what the hell are they doing? What, then, what the hell were, you it was there? Was there one site leader telling them to do? Well, that's that's the issue. Actually, one year after a student called nine one, one from inside the classroom, pleading for help officer still didn't entered the classroom for another forty.

Six minutes. The new revelation- contradicts the statement from police that officers didn't have the proper equipment to confront the killer, the statesmen report. Officers grew increasingly impatient. This is important, Joe of them saying if there's kids and there we need to go in there. Another responded who prison charge determines that a transcript of body camera foot from officer, showed the commander on the scene: uvalde school, police, chief pete under this treaty, to find he's too open this room door, even though officials say they do not believe officers had tried to open the door and busy news has not been able to verify the documents alone. For our redondo did not immediately respond to recover request for comment on the reports. Last night he has defended his actions on that day and has previously said we responded to the information that we had and had to adjust to whatever we. Raised and Joe. I know we're gonna bring in belgrade and buddy just to the point that you are making

police and general being afraid to go in. I I honestly when it comes out when you listen to all the body camera video possible you gonna hear from melodic hops. That would have done anything to you to get through the costly, but we're gonna wanted to go where they live with that, but it resident monitors, saying you call a lot of the copse wanted to go in a bad day. The guy on the scene, telling them to hold back fumbling around logistically and is following layers, is everything he was just is stalling. Yes, can save killing time well, wall. There were kids inside bleeding out. There were calling nine one, one that were dying that could have been saved if he had done his job. Let's bring right now form in new york city police. Commissioner, now the exam chairman kenya risk gill brad his new book and important book for every power petition and america to read the profession, a member of community race and are of policing american out and paper, because every politician also,

police chief and end the rank and file it they're. So there's so much important in here MR commissioner, I want to start, though you know why talk about, you have all they. We ve talked about all the ways they screwed up. It's just do a reset here. Paused columbine there are rules of engagement for school shooters that we see one police department after another, fail on, could you could could you explain to us columbine. If there is an active shooter inside of school, what is every departments supposed to do The general philosophy, Joe, is that you go in one officer to offices. Three offices that you go in Quite clearly that did not happen here. We're going to have wait for the results of these special commission has been formed to examine this incident,

What's going on a congress right now by january six, because europe's drip drip of information coming up just infuriate assault the idea that they had ballistic shields. They had a device the other day this week, what they had a device that would pop that door explaining it other than a total failure of lack of leadership and command and control commander control in policing is absolutely essential. Unity of command www nothing. We trade for change when violated in this instance also transparency. We in europe they lied and they, behind the grieving parents, in that press conference, where all those those guys were up on the stage and beto o'rourke went in there. They lied talking doing everything. Don't don't use grief against these parents, if you had the police chief doing the same thing when confronted by NBC news. Like you, said it's drip drip

one lie after another lie after another lie? both these days go by talk about why it is so important for police department. To be transparent up fry. Ironically Joe, I teach a class with John Miller very known to you, the deputy commissioner, the only I pity every year up in Boston with three hundred police leaders, while the country on communication skills and the more Port word and police communications is preliminary. The story is nevertheless story is clearly the case in this instance, and the idea is to as quickly as possible ghetto what you know, but I understand that the story is going to change and the frustration here. Is that we train so much for this. This department actually trained for this in a pair We failed when it came time to actually deal with it. We're going to little lot. I think, as this committee that's been formed issues. Its report

policing is always an evolution in my book. I write about the evolution of freedom, which we constantly learning and changing. Will we from columbine. We will learn from this, so yesterday I had friend of mine on zaire, former cia case officer He was talking about the problems with morality he's He's been doing god's work driving around in in some of the toughest parts of philly to try to figure out the challenges that department is facing. I know you you, watch the segment you heard the segment and you agree with so much of what he says- talk about challenges that our men and women in blue are facing. The rich in philadelphia, whether its in los angeles, new york, miami or in the united states, capital, unfortunately

extraordinary challenges, and when I write about in the book and attack the book now has an epilogue to incorporate the advance of january six. I felt his own port to talk about that impact. Let's face it, you think you understand in the show that, but for the capital, please metropolitan police. My january six, the indus spent or institution is your guess yesterday, described them We would have lost democracy on that day, but for the actions of the police and so that the essential nature of policing in our democracy, it can't be denied she has to be centrist, happy to the left, can't mitchell the right in that the challenge to space center and it's an extraordinary challenge politically with so much of our political leadership, is so fond of her love so proud of the light clearly about the republican party is becoming a party of Anna keeps anarchists, basically what the devil. Party also because politically the progressive left creating phenomenal fear in america to many of the policies we effectively enabling criminals

rather than preventing crime. So we a very strange place in america. At the moment, an american policing is so often the case we in the middle, with a with a man in the arena as Theodore Roosevelt described them when he was commissioner. We are back in the early nineties, hundreds challenging times for our country challenging time, certainly from our completely You know what I find so fascinating is that after a george lloyd's, tragic death public and started. Accusing democrats wanting to define the police. I've had nancy policy on tibet. Democratic leaders. Cross. A political spectrum come on and they say the same thing and kleiber has from the very start. It not and I know, don't defined the police. We need more police officers. That's something that rev reverent. Now a guy you know very well, haven't I

as agreed with me, as an always agreed with you, but he is always talking about. We need more police officers. We need form, yes we need more police officers, not less. We need more policing, not less, where hearing that from them of washington d c, wearing that from other members. Two years ago, we were talking about defining the play. So here is a question We hear this and yet Look at new york city where Eric Adams is common and he What's to empower the police here, once he wants to they give the police- the opportunity to stop the crime. To stop the murders and some of the the most crime. Areas in new york city and yet it their politicians on the far left to or stopping him so trying to figure out how we square this happen,

how how does democratic party affected balance the safety of its mode. Disadvantaged citizens, face it. Our neighborhoods we're not facing the great challenge: The great challenges are being faced by the truly disadvantaged in new york city and across america. So the question is: how did its effectively balance the need for more cops. More safety at the same time more of one another To MR well tat Joe, you reference Eric Adams. He is an appeal battle against the legislature. The city council attorney general lily everybody else in the criminal justice system. Is going in a different direction than he new york city. Living in fear, fear drawing throughout every neighborhood in the city and Much is eric, is trying to walk the walk and talk the talk

fast as he's walking in the other direction, the progressive left is going in the other direction. They are effectively enabling the criminals with the reforms that are put in place and in many ways ex disarming the police. There is no support for police from them. Little shell, women in new york city in new york state with the accept off the map in one or two of the district attorney's. Unless they get My turn of the well you're gonna, get wiped out in november will shortly please down the line or get wiped out of collective offices of the state and local level. Has the floor. He's gonna grow as to come this boy- and I am an optimist but new york at the moment. I'm not too optimistic. Unfortunately, Why were going through a really hard time? And, commissioner, if you will, if you could stay with us, we're going to sneak in a break here and and to also still ahead. We've got georgia on our mind to georgia. Secretary of state will testify, but where the january six committee today about food president transport- to change the states. Twenty twond

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