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the texas native and actor matthew, mokanna, hey, adsum, star power and passion to the push for new gun restrictions in emotional plea from the white house. We're gonna hear much more from the actor and we'll tell you where by partisans talks stand this morning plus the latest on the investigation into january six. Another witness has announced for tomorrow's prime time hearing and new reporting on how tromp had the secret service scrambling on the day of the capitalist. also this morning. The top hat it's from last night's mid term election primaries that may serve as a warning to Democrats you some demographically willie. You know you know this, but only by your good, brilliant minds, visit our show. What They, like wild churchill, they. What lincoln? saddle His cries, of course, lord,

or just or the british government put back if it's John meets him talking about change rebellion but that's their. But really. That's another story for another day today we want to open the vault of deep thoughts and service or progressive france on the occasion of yet another setback. On the issue of permissive law enforcement, the centre go called get recall. Last nine, perhaps the most progressive city in American. As we said last year, at the time and again Democrats are one of the most liberal cities in the east coast, where most liberal cities in america, new york elected an ex cop who said he was going to take it. For no nonsense. Curves stand against crime, he's work victory by winning the bronx, queens, brooklyn and even staten island, and the message willie, I think from me. Liberal voters in america, from San francisco to new york city, keep I save your you, hope you vision the criminal justice reforms It's making our streets

dangerous so that, with that, I thought about the great thought to share this morning with our progressive warriors on crime and let's go to the deep thoughts vault of joy. w bush, who famously said, and I quote There's an old saying in tennessee It's in taxes, problem in tennessee fool me once shame on you fool me fully. You can't you get get fooled again as it was, written. Willie So I shall be and we have a second example of a progressive city, say you know what let's spare me on crime all later. Let's keep our street safe. Now that great quote from who and george w bush. We won't get fooled again yeah. That was an extraordinary result. Yesterday I recall of the dna in San Francisco. Wasn't close either by six?

percentage points who d. In the day there was recalled, and as we talk about yesterday, it is basics, quality of life stuff. It's the reason. As you said, Eric Adams was elected in new york city. It was the number one issue for people above Colvin above the economy. Even public safety in new york city was an m one issue among voters who chose Eric Adams at twenty four, your veteran of the new york city, police force and now people are saying out. Their window in San francisco is rampant, homelessness, drug use out in public and other crimes where the da was happy to look the other way and the voters in San Francisco. Yesterday last night saying we need to change corso a pretty extraordinary result in, as you said, arguably the most progressive city in america and in new york city. Of course, we idea who had already get way weighed in the left of where not only Eric Adams was but a way weight and the left of where new york city voters are and is already backed off a bit from that

One tell Eric Adams right now: is approval ratings much lower than hid like it to be its much lower in large part because new you, You're still don't feel sage. Instead of Eric Adams, fighting crime on the streets, Eric Adams as fighting a lot of people who, again are much closer, their vision of how to keep new york city street safe closer. The vision of the san francisco data was voted out then the mayor of new york yeah. Now sometimes he says the bottom line. It's safety and we're going to go, live to san Francisco a little bit later in the show. But first senators in Washington had hoped to reach. I presume, deal on guns safety by the end of this week, but Busy news has learned that talks may slipping next week, senators have hit a snag on how to expand background checks to people close to the talks. Television news at issue is, further to add waiting periods for eighteen to twenty one year, europhiles and too

while the I to conduct background checks on there, juvenile wreck? Our records, as spokesmen for republican senator john corner of texas, said he's not considering waiting periods but does support the provision on juvenile records perhaps, however, want to go bigger report. Senator path to me of Pennsylvania says he doesn't believe the compromise on background check. Said he reached with democratic senator Joe mansion after sandy hook, will make the current deal that twenty thirteen proposal would expand background checks for gun shows and online sales, sort of makes sense so or to me was asked about it yesterday. Why is it so hard to get republicans onboard behind this, you should ask republicans war not on board by you, but we ve been working on this issue for a decade. You know frustrating

Now very frustrating not only prepared to even for millions of americans who support universal background checks it he said it makes sense if it only makes sense if you put lives over your political, your political concerns and focusing again on a really small group of americans and a willie small powerful lobby group, yes, but online sales, and especially the gun gun, shows you can walk into a gun, chauvelin and fill your car. Trunk with guns and drive away? You gotta have a background jack. Do they do other provisions not being discussed a ban on us all to weapons, raising the buying age for assault weapons from eighteen to twenty one? These are the things that would have perhaps impact ivaldi or adding restrictions on high capacity. magazines rob What can Senator Tom tell us of north carolina says the mental health portion of the bill has all

I been drafted and yesterday senator grants murphy of connecticut met with president Biden at the it has to update on the negotiation and when you know will we the thing is: there are some good things that are coming out of this is their maybe a seven to ten billion dollar price tag. On mental health programmes, and that is a lot of money. I understand by law. Before volley disconnected from shootings because these shooting issues we can deal with guns, first and foremost, but We have a middle health crisis in American. We ve had a mental health crisis in amerika for quite some time. So, yes, there's really great news that they're talking about actually expanding mental health coverage in america, but man a lot of compromises right now you want away the jail, final bill is finished, but a lot of basic compromises that ninety percent of american support that aren't even being considered around that table. Yet here look at that graphic.

at mica just showed of things not being discussed. It makes you wonder what is being discussed when it comes to guns. Mental health is important, of course, school safety. I understand they're going to put more money into that, but if you look at that list of the items they're not being sk dust it saying that ought to be on the table at least, and that has widespread support among the american public space. Background checks, universal background checks, assault weapons, ban potential that wooden pass. We know that what about raising the buying age or semi automatic rifle to twenty one, restricting capacity magazines. Again these are the provisions not being scots one interesting potential twist, though about raising that age comes from mitchell economy, sources. Tell NBC news Senate minority leader Mitch Mcconnell has privately to express an openness to the idea of raising that age to twenty one. Many republican senators will not say if they support it. So far, senator Susan collins of maine and mitt romney of utah only senators.

Have said they would support that. Several republican lawmakers recently have been defending the current accessibility of assault style weapons. Senator John phone of south Dakota was ass yesterday. Why someone would need in our fifteen here's what he had to say, followed by some other republicans who have weighed in on that question. They a sporting rifle damn it something that a lot of people for purposes of going out target shooting in my state they use unless you prairie dogs and in all other types of monuments, and so I think, There are legitimate reasons why people would want to happen. I'm representing my can stick in rural colorado in asia, if gene is a gun of choice for killing raccoons before they get to our chickens, the aid. I get gonna choice for killing a fox, Do you think that there is

any room to ban assault weapons in this country. Why does someone need in our fifteen? Well, if you george people would honour killing pharaoh pigs in the you know, whatever the middle of Louisiana, they wonder. Why would you take it away from binding and never done anything. I used to kill feral pigs, Action of a criminal deprived me of my right back Harold pigs, prairie dog, recommend guy boxes that justification given one other senator Joe RON. Johnson of wisconsin was ass yesterday about passing gun laws, new gun laws, and he said, let's led forced the laws there on the books, beginning with. under Biden, He will he somehow made that connection to hunter Biden. So this is not a serious conversation among at least many republicans was not serious at all. I mean about prairie dogs are fifteen's on put weapons like to blow long war against prairie dog, with disintegrated pair prairie dog varmints right

clones, maybe bogs, landmines and south the corral viral picture. Why don't you just a few of those and watch the prairie dogs blow up within what are you talking about, spread it out? Knowing it's absolutely again is ridiculous and it's unjustifiable. It's all. They have they that these sound so stupid when they talk that way, and yet the senator from Louisiana who's got a lot of things right, but in this case he said, wait a second. I want a god of war, a weapon of war to do pigs and I have you taken away, because somebody did something: illegal, hey, wake up that's how the world operates, you know I like we, I'll have to go through ts say we all have to get checked. Is we're going onto our planes. We all have to take off our shoes. We all have to like it our computers, our laptops, not because we ve done anything wrong, because somebody has done something wrong. You goddamn army, at the age of eighteen,

because for a long process before you If they are using your weapon, why not the saying you know jonathan mirror the thing that seems is really just absolutely outrageous. Is you have these? people, first of all justified the use of a weapon of war against varmints Please, you ve gotta, do better that little kids are slaughtered kids are slaughtered and sandy hook children are slaughtered in evolving, shoppers are slaughtered in EL paso taxes. You mean you, we can go a buffalo new york, grocers are slaughtered again. with these same weapon of choice. Over and over again, these mass shootings, high price profile, mass shootings. They use the same weapon of choice, and they're saying yeah. Well, we have a constitutional right to have

he's gone to kill, varmints and general pig. It's just ridiculous and ok said this from the very beginning: I know that we're not going to toughen up regulations on military style weapons right now with a fifty fifty senate that sad who be against raising the age. or a kid getting a weapon of war from eighteen. the twenty one when we don't let reckons wet cars from Miss our hearts are national another twenty five, we don't let them get a beer. They can't get a baby are and taxes until there are twenty one, but the deranged killer can walk in to a gun store when he's eighteen and by a weapon of war more powerful than the guns we gave our marines in vietnam who could

I am just going to say this as such madness. stories? You're gonna, look pat back and say wide. In fact did the mines of power. petitions on capitol hill and twenty twenty, two and years before from sandy hook forward like they can't they can extend. Eighteen to twenty one, when buffalo. and then because they always lies more guns, no gun legislation. We're done anything for this really now gun legislation would value. Oh well, that's just talk about buffalo new, evolving. and raising the age. the children can get weapons of war from eighteen to twenty one, but a huge difference that would have made So the question is jonathan: le Maire, white Republican could be. against even allowing this and to debate that to underscore

your point about the power of these weapons, weapons apparently needed to shoot, varmint and other small animals where we play more from matthew, mokanna, hey later he d. tat one of the victims in a texas hit by shot by this. Our fifteen could only be identified because the shoe she was wearing that speaks to the power his weapons yet apparently needed to shoot small animals, we Yesterday we forgot reporting that Mitch Mcconnell has said that he would quietly support that change, who eighty two twenty one to buy these guns. I think there are some Democrats. I spoke to last night who wondered where that was a couple of weeks ago Mitch. Maybe that could have changed a tide here, but he's clear Mcconnell has read the room. We're looking for Just tell me: do you simply there simply not support there in the caucasus, we heard some of the excuses put forward, thereby fellow public, and so that part that measuring raising the age of eighteen to twenty one is not going to be part of this. Despite having such support, despite would it be

point to it and say actually. This would have prevented perhaps the shootings, the very least the ability for these suspects to get the guns, and I think there is some still believe this deal is going to get done. But as each day goes past that it doesn't we're pessimism ways and we ve been down this road. Before Democrats I spoke to last I'd say they do still think whether the other gonna make mental health component. They do still think they'll be some measures on background checks. They do still think they'll be some measures on red flags, although largely those red flag, logs, warlike guidance to the states rather than federal rules, but pessimists. starts to creep in peace with down this road so many times that one without a deal democratic, really hope to get this done. If not by we stand by early net because they are afraid momentum is dissipate emil. like say you always your people telling stories of how those from other countries just don't understand why we allow an eighteen year old devil.

weapon of war go in and gun down, mow down little children when we have seen this same weapon of war used time and time and time again in mass shootings, we've seen schools we ve seen it and movie theatres, resented high schools, we ve seen in parliamentary schools. We We ve seen it in walmart, sweet, seen it grocery stores and buffalo and so we ask so yes, people across the world, they die our closest allies. They just don't understand is why do american law makers allowing our kids, to continue to be gone down, especially when the majority of americans since sensible gun safety laws passed. They don't understand it, but Not only will they not understand it? in our day to day that don't understand it. Certainly there are met. There certainly would have been republicans from twenty years ago. That wouldn't understand one one.

mass murder. After another mass murder, our founding fathers really was the second amendment about an eighteen year old, insane kid being able to go and buy a gun and shit, a little children, no, not even close. Ok, we're going to have some soup court interpretations and maybe we're gonna move a little bit forward on heller. Where we're how heller was decided coming up but nothing of the second amendment I in case law suggest an eighteen Kids should be able to go in and by a weapon, slight. Add that's dangerous and more lethal than the what we use in the lot of hunters? I come from a family of hunters that shoot varmint dear turkey. They don't need a our fifteen's, they wouldn't even think of getting into a our fifteen for there ten days would be fine with any type of background check, because response

we're gonna owners pass through them and that they want the banker and expertly one other. two? As far as protecting your house, I don't really want to get into a gun safety course here or a course on defending people sounds anybody unless you live and I I can massive mansion or something like that, and even then they our fifteen's aren't as good as shot guns were defending a house nothing's better in in in close quarters inside a home. Then a shotgun basic shock and so people who say. Oh, I need my our fifty four miles. Anybody It knows anything about guns will tell you that

just not pack your assent to the senators who saint all all those guns are already out there wouldn't know what to do about them. There is something that can be done, we'll talk about that and to the senators that say that it's important to have the need to blow up prairie dogs and page and little varmints. Comrade look at a play, matthew, mokanna, hay for you and he's going to tell you what a our fifteen due to the body of a child will be right back. Hello there, unchecked time. If you, let me the press of some great nets, you can also get a daily dose of politics news, put analysis on our new show its press now everyday. Beyond the headlines to explain, what's happening in politics, we got here and why man also talk the folks both

It's all about the issues this country faces and how what's happening in washington impacts. All of us. You could watch meet the press. Now, every weekday at four pm eastern streams free on NBC news now and it's available on all streaming platforms. August continues to head off with more pivotal primaries on MSNBC on election tuesday's still calling out. He will break down the reasons then, the day after morning, jewel will discuss what the result could mean for november primary election coverage on MSNBC Welcome back to morning Joe, it is twenty four past the hour, some negotiating going on inside of there today. Let's hope that look into Democrats alike can come to some deal and chris Murphy knows it's not gonna be everything he wants is not going to be most of what he wants. You gotta be what addressing is what happened in the past mafia he, but

just does want to get some things. Johnny Roselli, we're gonna, be matthew, mugabe and his second but bet you know, we see things on the show sometimes- and you know you're we- that on the paper, Then you see it and it's just really sort of stark dc republican members of congress, a week, or so after little children. Are blown to pieces with a gun that is so violent, that is so lethal, that a lot of those little children could even be recognised. We heard the same thing in sandy hook: parents had trouble recognising their first graders when they went in the bloody saying, because it was it was a war zone and you We have a senator going well people and

I state they like to shoot feral pigs with and they are fifteen. So just because somebody you no guns down, plus nineteen people kills my team? Little kids? It isn't please go away saying why Why shouldn't my constituent still be able to use that gun to shoot a pig our warrants a yes vote. prairie dogs give me a break. Prairie dog. Would disintegrate and raccoons in colorado. The these are not serious people. These are not serious arguments we have children who are still being buried, we know there's going to be another mass shootings coming up. We know we know that because we ve had what two hundred forty mass shootings so far this year and will not even half way through the year and there talking about feral, pigs and prairie dogs, it's it's

raise hole and, as I said before, if we took a step back and just how does this work to people that this back from the political system. How is it going to look ten fifteen twenty years from now, then we had members of the united states Senate that allowed little children to continue to be down with military weapons, because They wanted to protect, our constituents rights to shoot. Prairie dogs, environments yeah? You can shoot a prairie dog with a shotgun. You don't need an air fifteen to vaporize a family of prairie dogs. That's just the facts for anybody who knows about guns and how to control their land, but that was so stark yesterday job that something about the term. Prairie dogs contrasts with those little kids and the names and faces of the kids who were inside that schooling of all they have got to protect the right to rise. Prairie dogs

over the right of a fourth greater to survive the day at school year, History will frown on their set and that, by the way, the american public, again, we were going to sound like a broken record. The american public frowns on an american pub want something done about this and the truth. As you know very well joe, it's all smokescreen. Those senators use, I dont believe any of that, but the arguing I hear from their constituents, and maybe they believe it too. I don't know is that it is. slippery slope if you start making gun laws well pretty soon, if we reach the age of twenty one there away, they are fifteen altogether and once they have done that they're gonna start to look at how much gun violence is carried out by hand guns and their common for the hand guns. That's always the argument. The slippery slope argument that they're coming for your guns and if you show any weakness, if you give even an inch that they're going to take a mile and come to your home and take away your guns. It's not true, of course, but that's it argument, and that's why you hear about things like prairie dogs and fair

pigs were talking about a school shooting. Yesterday at the white house, Matthew mokanna hay was talking about that school shooting in his home town of evolving. The actor met with lawmakers and with president Biden then joined the white house press briefing or he share price. we're four stories about victims killed just over two weeks ago now, just a week prior rang a full time line job. In power lines from portable in every day, since landing that will pay in full time job, he reminded I lay there he's a girl, daddy, gonna spoil you now. older, every single night said that I will take you to see where one day, He said he didn't get The idea that she did not get to go to sleep at all

nine year old, my day, rodriguez, Am I a made? They want to be a marine biologist she was already in contact with corpus christie university. They name for our future college roman than usual. a day care for the environment, so strongly that when the city asked her mother, if they could release him balloons into the sky, in her memory, her mom, said: oh, no, they wouldn't want a litter maybe they wore green high top converse with I heard she had hand drawn on the right to because they represented her love of nature, camelias got these shoes. He shall issues place. where these everyday green converse with a heart on the right up these same green converse on our feet

turned out to be the only clear evidence that could identify her after the shooting have had that there was elly garcia, and her parents, stephen jennifer ellie loved dances of church She even knew how to drag tractors and was already working with your dad and her uncle boneyard. We pray to her passing she preparing to read a verse from the bible for them when is a nice church serves the verse. Was phone do dorani six five and thou shalt love the lord thy god thou art but all I saw and with all my might, facile really was becoming machinery in service on Wednesday night we also met a cosmetology

now she was well version mortuary make up. That's the task of in the victim's appears peaceful, unnatural as possible for that Open casket dealings These bodies were very different. They needed much more than make up to be presentable. They needed extensive duration. Why, due to the exceptionally large exit wound of an eye our fifteen rifle, most of the body so mutilated dna test. A ring converse good I didn't find. many children were left not only dead but hollow. We need responsible, gun ownership, responsible ownership. We need background checks.

We need to raise the minimum age to purchase in our fifteen rival to twenty one. We need a waiting period for those rifles. We need red, flag laws and consequences for those who abuse them. These are reasonable, practical tactical. Regulations too shins dates? Community schools and homes responsible gun owners are fed up with the second amendment being abused and hijacked by some to raise individuals these regulations are not a step back, their cell phone for civil society and and the second amendment

make I'm interested to hear what you think about mokanna hate speech yesterday. He is a good vessel for the message people going to sit up and listen, he's well known, he's famous he's from texas. He understands gun culture, he's from you ve all day, specifically he's met with the families who pull all those stories that are difficult to here and there he was pounding the death saying guys there are things we can do to protect the second amendment, but also.

while the things that we just said that group that group of centers is not discussing regent, raising the age to twenty one to buy and a r fifteen expanding background checks and spending red flag laws to make them national he's a very interesting guy to deliver this message: he's not a scream in hollywood. Lefty he's a texas guy through and through hi I'm Tom llamas, and for me the news is so much more than a headline he didn't forbes inspires and it still matters recovery. You have to be good and that's what my show is going to do will take you to the front lines of the story where it's actually happening with NBC news journalists on the ground from all over the world. We cover what you need to know and bring your news feed to live in prime time and streaming live. It's your newest playlist join for top story, weeknights at seven eastern on NBC news now

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insecure and streets of cave to meet with the lord of mirrors, the landscape, and to hear about the atrocities in ukraine and lend their symbolic support. Go to you, valday meet with the detectives who are gathering the evidence taken pictures baby sit with my taste. Parents hole her shoes and look at the pictures of this shattered childs body who was unrecognizable because of the result of an eight hour fifteen held by an eighteen year old who bought it on his birthday sit with her parents and the look evidence to the front lines here in amerika and actually show that you have some brave I have another word, but I won't use it because you don't you think those guns need to be used for prairie dogs environments and need you to go to evolve day and meet with the detail.

And look at the video and look at the evidence and look at the bodies of the children shows that actually care, but also take it in and then philip, you were decisions on the basis what you ve seen on the front lines in america, Well, look at the reality like you help us look at Pictures. That was a danger. You look at the reality. Look what your! foot dragging. What are your went away? Your shust insanity on this maximal S. Position. I'm gonna ownership that has nothing to do with a second amendment. Look at that! how did it brought on little children? from sandy hook to parkland Do you valday, and you know, It's it's interesting!

willie that you Always heard pro life advocate saying. Are. They should show the images of of the impact of abortions and and people see That would look like because that would, in the debate, immediately, and that's, of course, for those those unborn met. you you'll see At times I have, throughout my life, you'll see people driving trucks that will have pictures of aborted. Fetuses and why do is? Are you to look at the truth. I will let me turn this on the so called. party of life, which is just such nonsense. It such a lie, republicans or the two faces of what a poor of life, looks like the antithesis. Cradle to grave.

School yards in churches in synagogues in country, music, calls for the death of more children. Every year, more children every year die from guns, Every year than cops die in the line of duty or art, sk I and the of dirty but oily. You can turn that argument these Republicans head and say: ok, well,. Should this also mean if you want us to see what inside of a worm during an abortion. Do we I actually see what happens and public do what the public to see. Why The reality is of what happened inside these classrooms to children who were living and breathing and dreaming of a better life are

it's going to seaworld of being a marine biologist and then mowed down to such a degree. As Matthew mcconaughey said- and I heard the same thing- and I know you heard the same thing after sandy hook- children who could only be identified because they were so mangled by these weapons of war. A obliterated by these weapons of war. The Jonathan says me Beings on prairie dog seized. Look at the picture. Several pigs. They can only be identified by their dna cause. They work on recognisable. Go to your volley, let them look at the pictures, then look at their hell they have wrought nearby, can continuing to filibuster in meaningful gone safety legislation, What the hell of it is Joe. They go down and meet with the families. They might even look at some of those photographs as horrific as they are

and then they hear whisper in their year from some of their voters. That here, whisper in the year from people give them money for their campaign return and say, but we need them for prairie dogs, but we need them for pharaoh pigs, but we need focus on hunter Biden. Those are what the arguments we heard yesterday. That's how sick sure is that side of the isle around guns, to look at those faces and not be compelled to do something. Can you imagine Imagine a cat, look at those faces I just can't willie. I will you know there, I I drive weak a crazy a lot of times when a most talking about hey you get a compromise. We ve got to figure out how the others, I think they thought it is a republic, and I think it now is an independent both sides snake. But you look at those pictures and you look at wine mass slaughter after another mass slaughter, and I must say

I do not have the capacity. I am not pragmatic enough to figure out how a united states senator would these children continue to get slaughtered and why eighteen year olds continue the slaughter grandmothers in supermarkets? the slaughter parishioners inch. ouch or in synagogues concerts in concerts we're there gone down like feral tags, a concert in LAS vegas, a country music cancer. In We see it aurora a, but you again: I just I. I have I have no words for these people. They utterly without shame, and they are on the wrong side, not just of history. willie there on the wrong side of the american voters right now.

that's a point made by our friend on and gear and artists. Let's bring him into the conversation. He's the publisher of the ink newsletter, also msnbc political analysts and author of the book winners take all on and good morning. I want to read of one of your tweets. From a couple of days ago, you wrote when we speak of democracy, ending we tend to picture that moment as a bang. A stolen election, a coup, but maybe the end of democracy- is a whimper. All It's getting used to the reality that even things that ninety percent of people want will not happen there. You're talking about all these gun propose his gun laws that we ve been discussing this morning yeah. I was listening to the footage. You are showing of republican senators, talking about the sacred right to kill varmint and viral pigs and Matthew mokanna. He telling the stories of those beautiful children whose photos we were just looking at. It occurred to me that

much of the extreme political right in this country. Children are varmint and I want to say that very clear. Children are varmint for a lot of the extreme right and what I mean by that is if children are still in the womb. They enjoy the full faith and protection the extreme right in this country things should be done to protect them, but once children's leave that won't, They are on their own in america, in twenty twenty two. If it will not be school a school shooting. The gets them it'll be a lack of covert protection that get some it'll, be a threadbare healthcare system that get some it'll, be an economy that has no space for them to rise and grow, and so yeah every six story is really important in all of us who care about democracy, which is a fancy record for the people. watching the show getting don't realize the kind of society we want to live in Jenin. Six is about the fly

bang threat to democracy, terrorism, insurrection, violence and that's really important, but there another kind of evidence that we don't need subpoenas to elicit, evidence all around us that our Socrates is suffocating because when ninety percent of people, as you showed in that Paul. Want children not to be murdered in their school by guns, doesn't happen when most of us, an overwhelming number of us, would prefer that our grandchildren and great grandchildren be able to live on a habitable planet that doesn't get and vetoed by the powerful, the wealthy, the well connected when most people want security of knowing that if they get sick they get taking care of that. Doesn't get done well most people in the pandemic wanted a little bit of help, was beyond their power to control

that happened a little bit not enough and ran out and so We have to really ask ourselves various aid organised, anti democracy movement that represents a minority faction in this country. That is successfully blocking things. Ninety percent of us what we don't have a problem. One problem a lot of these issues. We have a problem of another, the pro democracy movement, the president, the white house democrats in congress, not having the political fortitude to translate public opinion in results: how to use power, how to create moments out of tragedy. The way I'll be J did how they provoke one way to write does, but for good how to build power, a mass power and wield power. Name villains make things earlier. We cannot haven't looked toast pro democracy movement in this so much saw again in about a couple of things, because you know we we've we've talked about. We've had some debates on whether the system would hold where a great debate after

trump got elected. I think we were both right in some ways. It was actually much worse than I expected in some ways. better than you expected another ways, but let's just pull back because right now, let's at the fact he let. Let's, let's go to your argument. Mikan I love madeleine albright. Miku was at the funeral. I was watching on tv and a guy, and I was because there was a moment were the funeral where I saw bill Clinton. Hillary Clinton. AL gore Joe Biden, in the front row it occurred to me, That of all those people sitting on the front row, half of them what they all one of the popular row- half of them, didn't get there. Democrats will have won the popular vote in ninety ninety two

t ninety six, two thousand two thousand eight, thousand, twelve, two thousand. Sixteen thousand twenty and even twelve years of republican rule during that time? Where those who didn't get the majority vote. Your pointed a majority of the supreme court, so again. You ve got minority views on this brain cord. So when I start asking, how could they return row which seventy percent of americans and supported for a very long time a fifty year precedent dear constitutional right: well, that's one way or the other thing has to do with the senate. The united states Senate Democrats, we'll keep I the majority of votes and far for the united states senate races. Continue to lose more seats because way the system set up and even wonder in the majority like they are now filibuster is

they katy any legislation being passed. My feeling is It hasn't always been this way, but now, just like those senators and nineteen. Seventy five that's a way to second sixty seven, it doesn't make sense any more, nothing getting down here. The chamber's paralyzed. Let's move from sixty seven to sixty. We are now in a position in a hyper political atmosphere where six, He doesn't work anymore and I mean you get rid of the fill a bus or even move it down to fifty five make an adjustment like senators made a nineteen, seventy five it I majorities, would have a shot at getting things done. Instead, right now this that's a chamber than yours kill, the will of percent of americans of so the three percent of americans of an overwhelming majority of american- so nothing gets done, and washington, is reduced to afford.

of meaning meaningless gestures You know they say: there's that saying generals are always fighting the last war. I think small. The Democrats are always looking for the last tyranny on guard for the last tyranny, and I think a lot of americans are looking at the fear democracy's erosion and looking for things from other countries and other times and places, and that may not be what it looks like here. The end of democracy may or may not be a stolen election in two thousand and twenty four, or something like that. It may just be permanent minority rule I just me a faction that represents ten twenty thirty percent of american public opinion on extreme issues, control link through as exactly you said, a senate filibuster through a minority marian supreme court, where, if someone like Brett cavanaugh declares a sovereign right over women's wombs, it may be just that things Most people want because they love their children

things the society keeps telling them? No, your children can't have. That is enough to qualify as the suffocation of democracy, and I think we need those of us who believe in democracy, not just to say we believe in it. We need the president not just to give sober speeches about preserving it. We need a real war for democracy, because no mistake: there is a war against it that is clear and unmistakable and powerful and well funded. But I think those of us who believe in that have been complacent about it have been passive about it and if we want things that ninety percent of us want, because we love If children were going to have to fight like hell in defence of the idea of getting them, will I get in the way we do a job. For me, I said on the show, all the time we do it politically, we do it. peacefully? We whether euro at a sane republican, whether an independent, whether you're a Democrat, you do. It by registering devout new

by getting your neighbors to register to vote. You get it by voting you get it by driving people through the ballot box. That is how it gets dime and I agree with that and so much the my grandson, just got to get better pointing out once before, the challenges before us, campaigns are about. Alternatives, a verses, be mixed versus candid started? The show talking about safety, mixing verses kennedy, tromp v Since when it's choices. It's about distinctions this should be very easy for democrats. You ve got a party that standing in the way of what ninety percent of the eighty eight percent of americans want, according to our latest, while they want universal background checks, republicans won't even talk about it and by the way where talking about republicans, won't even vote on it

it's been very clear here because of the filibuster republicans are killing the ability to even take that I do have that debate. Because they know that the minority they know they would lose they also know. If bill got to the floor. They, what I have to for it, because ninety percent of their constituents support so, what do they hide bind to filibuster for the life of me. I can't figure out why, people who love democracy? I'm saying sclerosis has completely overtaken are Medical system in Washington, it's time to get rid of the filibuster are at least push it down to fifty five votes. So crash in twenty twenty did make it a choice? The Joe Biden campaign was very much like where the alternative to what donald trump has wrought, but the white house has said

with us, since they ve taken office. Jai wrote this week about this conflict of crises that have hammered at this white house, whether its inflation rising gas prices, the war in europe, the impending cream court decision. The inability get stuff through congress, including guns and a sense of powerlessness, has set in so the german. filibuster. They Democrats can't you at that time because members of their own party centres, mansion and cinema publicly, and maybe a few others privately, have also said that they won't change to filibuster, even for our about on things like voting rights on things like guns, which is add to the sense of helplessness sense of deflation among many democrats here in this, as you say, perilous moment. So more say similar forces around the globe. What and they do considering the political realities of this, a deadlock senate house just a handful of seats margin that may flipped republicans of november. What can what kratz were trying to find democracy? What candidate

one place. Him inspiration that I recently found you may have been there also as the l b J museum in Austin Texas went there in march for the first time and it very depressing about the present. It was full of examples of someone who actually understood how you don't treat political, acts as permanent realities. If someone is blocking you, you fix how to unblock it. If someone doesn't want to do something you want to do you figure out how to you know, make them do it and I'll, be j m so how to make moments he understood how to leverage power and so not sure that we ve seen Joe Biden first off fully fight. For an end to the filibuster. So why is mansion expected to do what has not even been fully demanded by the people? Who supposedly would benefit from his doing it? Has the president flown to west virginia and had a rally asking wes virginians. If they want to send a message there senator about things. Ninety percent of them want

Getting done. Has the president flown to arizona? We have to make the on the other side? The people who don't want liberal democracy in this country are well funded their smart, their strategic, they we only want to destroy this country, but tactically their very good, and I think those of us who believe in democracy have been complacent because we just feel like we're doing the right thing. We believe in the right thing is not enough. What's not enough, need to see this president. I would love to see this president wield power, understand his power, cajole lean over people physically and otherwise, actually show the ability to marshal the full force of public opinion of the power of his office. To say this can't stand go camp out evolving for a week. If you need to the white house could actually move to evolve they for we can do business from there and say I am not leaving this town until we pass something a little bit an understanding of the power of provocation commanding attention all the things

bad guys in american politics understand very well and that the good people who want to do good things are frankly to anemic politically to do anything about On an garret artists, thank you very much for coming on the show. This morning we appreciate we appreciate the conversation and still I had on morning, Joe gas prices continue to move higher and it seems there's not much. Washington can do to stem the rising tide. What that could mean for Democrats in november plus house oversight committee chairwoman, Carolyn maloney, will be our guest ahead of her panels. Hearing on gun violence this morning it will feature testimony from a fourth greater who survived the evolving shooting. Also ahead, a stunning new report about former president trumps efforts to pressure secret service agents into letting him take part in the january sixth marched to the capital. and why it all lay, did not happen mornings

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