Roll right into the top of mourning, Joe thanks for joining us, I'm John clear, Joe meek and willie or all out this morning, but we'll soldier on, and thankfully we have another great group with a city of all star, starting with former aid to the george, w bush white house and state departments. Elise, Jordan is here, msnbc contributor might particle there. He is the whole Msnbc politics, nation, the president of the national action network, reverend sharp, It is here for senator and now, and NBC news and msnbc political analyst, Claire Mccaskill, as well as politik prize, winning columnist and associate editor of the washington post and end he's msnbc political foot playlist. I've had sent a terrific group. Let's get started We begin with president Biden taking a direct swipe at former president donald trump, for his inaction during the january six attack on the capital

every day rely on law enforcement to save lives then on january. Sixth, we relied on law enforcement to save our democracy. We saw what happened. The capitol police the dc metropolitan police other enforcement agencies were attacked and assaulted for our very eyes. Speared sprayed brutalized. Lives were lost for three hours the former president, nine united states It all happened as he sat in the comfort of the private dining room next to the oval office, While he was doing that brave law enforcement officer. To the media? L for three hours blood surrounded by carnage face to face. crazed mob that believe the lies of feed president, The police were heroes that day, Donald trump lacked the courage to act,

The brave women and men in blue This nation should never forget that. It can't be pro insurrection broke up. You can problems are action and pro democracy. You can't be pro insurrection and pro american. president Biden doesn't talk about january sixth off, and nor does he talk about his predecessor off, and we heard him use the phrase defeated for president Also a very rare moment, Claire Mccaskill, he used donald trump. name which I think underscores the passion he felt about. The particular moment what was so striking to you about what. Frankly, pretty unusual remarks from current president. Well, I was evident good He needs to say out loud the part that every is seen in plain view and he needs to really get on often about this mean the president is too much time in the last six months on defense.

If they get on office, and I thought yesterday was a good sign, especially in front of a police audience working underscoring the blue so much when it doesn't jive up with their political goals. I thought it was terrific and read, reverend now. He also said you can't be both pro cop and pro insurrection, I thought that was a very appropriate and in statement and again remember he's addressing here: black law enforcement executives. Many of us in the black community. That have act and addressed police conduct of monks. Some offices have been broadly labelled, particularly people like trump as we enter police when that is not the fact and in many blacks and now in law enforcement. trying to get others involved. The aunt Policemen are people that would brutalize and police and enact like this one saying blue lives matter, so I thought

given his audience and the timing. It was more than appropriate. thought it was needed coming from the president of the united states, I think, sometimes in the last few weeks, we on the acid I made the gravity of what we're looking at we're. Looking at the attempt to What throw em elections to really turn around the house. The process of a democratic choice in this country- and I don't that we emphasize enough the gravity of that either. president hit it on the head and call the name of who was leading the charge it was about time? He really did need to direct address it, especially now in the country is so primed to talk about it and receptive just hearing so much staring testimony and seeing those images again from the january. Sixth. and MIKE barnacle. I'm just going to ask you. President Biden took a while to directly attacked,

trump head on about this reminds me a little bit of how eisenhower didn't Joe mccarthy for a long time and delayed and delayed just because he didn't want to give him any more sunlight. What do you think of how Biden has finally come out with this attack well, you know at least that's an interesting comparison, president eisenhower and president trump and president eisenhower at the peak of Joe Mccarthy's rage and seeming popularity. Was trying to figure out how to get everyone back from korea and that war in korea president Biden has been sort of consumed with ukraine and pulley nato together and yet whatever what rubber now just said about the importance of what is going on in this country and the did a lot of people have underestimated it normally, naturally, because a very Concern that a normal person has during the course of the day was still

confronted with cove you're, still confronted with the fact that maybe one or two or three of your children, missed the critical years of school, the economy Gas prices, but what is happening to this country now politically is truly truly damaging to the soul of the country and jean, I don't know about you, but in watching the clip that we just saw and enlisting to president Biden last night in the full. The full talk, and he gave you can sort of sense a combination of rage, what is going on and politically and belief that that the goals system that he's been a part of for fifty years and sort of in a friendly way dealt with the opposition for over forty years things are so drastically changed. You wonder whether he recognizes the landscape that we live in well, arthur

I think he probably recognises it now he's beginning to remember. The reason he ran for president was what donald trump was doing to the country was doing to our system of democracy was doing to our our traditions and our mores and and the sort of unwritten constitution that accompanies the written constitution that allows us to function as a democracy and donald trump was was destroying that I think President Biden believed that when he was in office, he could see that this would kind of self correct that trump would sort of fade away and he'd be able to get the nation back on on track, whether it's heading in a liberal direction or conservative direction, but back on track the way it was pre trump and I think he speeds now realize. I hope you now realize that that no this is a deeper or more serious problem and he needs to address it head on and he needs to address it aggressively, and so I was very, very happy

But here I am doing that and binds anger about this particular issue, evident by his insistence, easily go ahead and do those remarks display avenue them remotely because of his covid diagnosis. As for what was and wasn't doing to stop the instruction The January sixth select committee congresswoman Elaine Luria revealed new, Testimony yesterday show How the former president added a speech that was meant to condemn the insurrection she twitter, yes. It took more than twenty four hours for president trump to address the nation again after his rose garden video on january sixth, in which he actually told his followers to go home in peace There were more things he was unwilling to say. Here's that the attack on she released. I'm not sure when those conversations began because they could have started early the next morning, but I believe they started that evening.

on the evening of the sixth I thought we should give the statement on the seventh and obvious move forward on transition. I spoke to miller about trying to gather some draft remarks for Jan seven that we're going to present to the president to try to say We felt like it was important to further call for the escalation from what I understood at the time and from what the reports were coming in. There is a large concern of twenty four amendment potentially being improved, and there are concerns about what happened in the senate. If it was the twenty one wasn't the primary reason that I had heard other than you know. We did not do enough on the sixth. We need to get a stronger message out there and condemn this. Is that's why this will be our legacy? The secondary reason to that was think about what might happen in the final fifteen days of your presidency. If we don't do this

talks about the twenty amendment. You need this as cover. Do you recognize what this is looks like a copy of a draft of the remarks. For that day, and as you can see throughout the document there are lines crossed out. There are some are some words that added in due ignite the handwriting. It looks like my father's handwriting in my view, to express very clearly that the people violent ass. example, If they did, it. Should be prosecuted. and should be arrested, It looks like here that he crossed out

was directing the department of justice to ensure all lawbreakers are prosecuted to the full extent of the law. We must send a clear message, not with mercy. but with justice, legal consequences must be swept infirm. Do you know why he wanted that crossed out? I don't know these days, They do not represent him war or the his political views. in former fashion he asked was crossed out. I want to be very clear. You do not represent me, you do not represent our. movement met but you know why he crossed language out of the statement, I don't know described describe for me about what MR kretschmer was asking. Kushner was asking you to do It was a video message or a speech. He was going to give her something, but I don't People are deciding like what he should say or what he should do

and then on since I'm always with him that if you asked your opinion, you know try to nudge this along very then called down nudge it along in what way? What is it? What does that mean to make sure he gives delivers this speech or whatever it was. I dunno if it was a video or a speech or something it was either It was only a few days after january sixth with the implication that the president was in some ways reluctant to give that speech year. Okay, what do you base that on that somebody has to tell me to nudge it along thermo cast well, let's remember, of course, that donald trump didn't want to give that speech. He only was pushed into it. As of the growing chatter that the twenty fifth amendment might be invoked to remove him from office, potentially preventing him from running again. and even when he did, he watered it down yeah he crossed out new staff from there was maybe most important.

in terms of sending a say, now to the country that he was not behind. direction turns out. He was turns out. He was happy about it turns out. He was gleeful what was going on and I think the most important thing about this speech, which had him talked about very much. Is it people around him, were willing to lie in this cover up on january, the seventh, because there is language in the speech he gave. That said, I called out the national guard and the local police what we are now know. He did no such thing Call the national guard, he never picked up the phone to call anybody except rudy, a few senators and he thought would do is bidding so it, is really interesting actual day of the insurrection, Clair's about line is everything, that's

whole problem with this whole trump shebang, everyone's been willing to lie for the guy for so long. Constantly from the very beginning, as long as they can just cling their little bit of power and enjoy their proximity to the president and I was most struck, just the video replay right, then Ivanka trump, Her testimony can you imagine in two Sixteen did she imagine. It was going to escalate to the point where she would be defending daddy's insurrection and that's died there were. None Guard rails and the people who Trying to enforce the law, I packs apollonia weren't, listened to and donald trump was just trying to flout the law, the law at every single point and pull people were willing to lie for people willing to for him and willing to amplify his lie. Someone you write a look at that

as with all this, as the backbone of the big lie here. Taking notes are less ready. We might discuss the little air in the show. With this. As the backdrop the for present returns to washington DC today for the first time since marine one lifted and away from the white house on the morning of president binds negotiations. You recall his skin the inauguration becoming the first modern presence to do so, leaving early and from the white house instead now five huh fifty. Two days later, he stepped At a summit hosted by the america first policy institute at a hotel, than two miles away from the: u s capitol the scene of the insurrection, and then one mile from the west wing trump. marks will reportedly focus on quote private safety, group- was founded by dozens of trump allies just months after the two thousand and twenty election joining now to talk about this staff rider the elastic our friend mark labour, that new book is titled. Thank you

for your servitude, donald trump, washington and the price of submission on the book. What are you looking for from the four president when he makes his return to the nations capital today? Well, I mean I think It will be a triumphant return, I'm sure when he goes before the american america, policy institute. He will get a standing haitian that'll be a red carpet treatment. And really just step back for a second I mean just interested in striking that he is returning to basic. the scene of what was going on when he left office space. We within a mile of that the biggest crime scene in america it remains or to the mouth of the thick say a lot of people in our government? The way he left Washington? I? He left washington with twenty five thousand national guard. Troops in the street which at that point was bigger than the we had an afghanistan and iraq. I mean this was

for anyone who lived in washington or spend time in washington. This was a chilling a few weeks, as anyone has ever spent, and I think there was no sort of more eloquent testimony to the america that donald trump was leaving behind or the washington, and it was even bind than this of things on that day, and so just it's important to sort of take stock of him returning to washington as a precursor, perhaps too returning to washington for another term as president, which be what he wants to do, because I think it's likely an next once you all now that he's running for president again and It is also the backdrop of all of this because, as I say in my book- and you say in your book- and we all- we are bucks right- it's either. This is like the lives have been enabled. I mean the lies and become the truth and the republican party- and you know you can call people out on it. You can ask Ivanka trump and Jared Kushner what you know, what donald trump, was thinking when he wrote this out or was going to think about doing this draft statement, and I think we

get. The same answer is, which is that the euro is trying to water it down and trying to pretend that january. never existed in trying to set the stage for his own turn triumph Play to washington as president mark in in the service to it, and in the first book you we write about wash, turn is kind of a giant high school, a I club, this town. So how is this town going to react when Donald trump but back in this town for the for the first time are people going to flee? Are they going to hide? Are they going to going to throw str rose petals in the past? What's going to happen, thinking the venue itself from the rose petals will be flying. I think, look, I think a lot of republican washington wishes that this event weren't happening. Anything that takes engine off what the current president is going through, inflation so forth, is

good for republicans and obviously donald trump is going to sort of jump right into that again. So I think this is what what would happen the backdrop of what we were talking about many years ago. Seventy eight years ago, when after the first book came out, was kind of have a comedy of manners. In retrospect I mean the whole high school analogy is kind of a luxury. At this point I mean this stuff is for keeps this stuff is for history and again, Donald trump's, sort of contribution to history. What his legacy is. is largely tied up in not only what led to that day january, your six, but the sort of memory holing of it he's gone on since then from the republican party. The effort to sort of pretend it never is stood or pretend it was a normal tourists trip or something like that and every time he comes back? It draws attention to that day again and I think it's something that most republicans here would rather not talk about mike particle

Take it to work, but I'll also just note that we know the former president furious that no one was there defending him during the january six hearings. Now comes to wash and gets to do just that well, yeah any he does it in plain sight, which is the most amazing thing of all I mean we can show all the clips we want. Of the january sixteen regions. Basically, that's me we're talking about things in the rearview mirror, but here is today coming to washington d c, with his plan intact. He has never stopped leave, of which I am wondering just Surprise you at all. I bet it doesn't that you have a former president of the united states will appear in Washington DC today. Publicly intent, continually continually publicly and ten on his plan. One too story, the electoral system, the country by talking about the big lie, it was rigged that it was fixed

toe to contend trying to damage nearly every institution of government that has to in care of america and provide for american citizens for over two hundred years. He's going to do it again today in public and michael to you what level of astonishment do you have that so far, thus far not a single major republican figure has really stood up and taken sky on that is, furthermore, its it's low, my level of astonishment, because it's been happening for essentially seven years, but I think it is striking I mean the silence around his return. His rehabilitation from elected republicans from the putative leaders of this party has been. striking largely because they don't want it to happen. They want to be done with this guy. In large part, I mean. Obviously there are some exceptions and there are seven actions in the other direction, the Liz cheney's, the mitt romney's, the adam kinsey nurse, who have been very outspoken

in condemning him, but I think They could have gotten rid of this problem. I made it would still be a problem in donald trump is still gonna have a lot of support in europe, a book and party, but in a republicans could have impeached. They could have condemned him. They could continue to condemn the backdrop of complete violence and submission could be a lot less. You know a lot less welcoming to donald trump and to what we His message is going to be today, which is I was wrong, I'm coming back and I'm I'm going to get it right this next time, so yeah again, I think this is what silence allows. This is what submission allows, and this is the path that republicans have chosen and trump comes back. to wash and may be slightly weakened, but still the overwhelming favourite to be their mullican party's two thousand and twenty four nominee for president. He's so much his new book is thing you for your servitude, washington and the price of submission keep

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The Ohio republican senate candidate, JD vance is receiving harsh pushback this morning, after, I suggested in a newly resurfaced video that people stay in unhappy marriages, even if they are violent. Vice news, published vance's comments from last september when he was speaking to pacifica christian high school was responding to a moderator who had reference vance's, grandparents relationship before asking what causes one generation to give up on fatherhood and other. Stick it out,

This is one of the great tricks that I think the sexual revolution pulled on the american populace, which is this idea that like well, okay, these marriages were fundamentally, you know they were, they were maybe even violent, but certainly they were unhappy in so getting rid of them and making it easier for people to shift spouses like they change their underwear. That's going to make people happier in the long term, and maybe it worked out for the moms and dads though I'm skeptical, but it really didn't work out for the kids of those marriages, and I think that's what all of us should be honest about. Is we've run this experiment in real time and what we have is a lot of very, very real family dysfunction. That is making our kids unhappy. His best selling book hillbilly elegy vance, describes his grandparents marriage as chaotic and violent. Even telling one story where his grandmother lit his grandfather on fire who had to be saved by their eleven year old daughter, vance, explained that their marriage improved by the time he was born and he credits.

as being a stable force in his life. In a statement, Vice news, the vance campaign responded in part. as anyone who studies is issues knows. Domestic violence has skyrocket in recent years and is much hair higher among non married couples. That's the trick! I reference that if violence would somehow go down, if progressives got what they want, when in fact modern societies, war on families has made our domestic violence situation. Much worse. Annie Your person would recognise I, criticizing the progressive frame on this issue, not embracing it. He added I'm an actual victim of domestic violence in my life I've, seen siblings wives, daughters and myself abused by men. It's disgusting for you to argue that I was defending those men that's his lengthy statement, at least jordan, but obviously his remarks I can raise lot of our what's your senses,

as to how reflective they are about where the republican party, is right now about women. Jd D is a troll, so I really don't want to give these comments more air. Then it's necessary because that's what he wants us to do. He wants us to sit around and talk about the most incendiary things that he says has to wear. The republican party is, I don't even know if it's just the republican party, but a lot of these laws around the entire country that are coming to light, and I wanted to ask claire about a law in Missouri that pregnant women can't divorce bowser's, even if they're being abused if they're pregnant, and what is that can you? explain that, because, in the aftermath, math of roe vs wade reading about that law was very disturbing, yeah. I can't explain it. There is no explanation for what missouri doing are going It is the home of government mandated private.

see it's the home of the governor. tellin ya girls, who have been repeatedly raped by a relative or a step that they carry that child to term it is the home of crazy It comes to how the missouri legislature has looked at women, but- and I know at least we don't want to get JD vance a bunch of air time on this, but I gotta tell you. First of all, we got a correct He said domestic is not skyrocketed. Secondly, beyond he that women having power in this country has somehow children- worse, economic changes that have allowed women to escape by what marriages and protect their children- I am someone who has watched children die because of asking violence, but as the women did not have the ability to escape violence.

So this notion that he He thinks he belongs in the united states Senate today, when he says that somehow women who are in a violent relationship for the sake- their children, should stick it out. It's disgusting, and oh higher leads to wake up his is really scary, nutty stuff. This makes tromp kind of look normal in some ways. that being created, that trump has normalized inconsistencies and outrage in the republican party. Let let's not forget, that the new leader of the so called christian right in sixteen and twenty was donald trump who was multiple married and had a videotape of saying you can grab a woman's privates and they totally act like that didn't happen. So why would we be shocked at a J b that

can one way about his grandparents in a book and another way when he's sitting on a forum, they have normalized, saying one thing one day saying something: the other day talking out of both sides. Your mouth Calling that some kind of moral standards- and this is what religion is all about- so to normalize, this donald trump has achieved that it's how good you can lie, how good you can change your former position and sell it on people. It's an insult to the intelligence of ruth looking voters and voters that led to the right that really believe in what they believe but these people believe in nothing but winning at any cost. They have no bleach. Betraying their beliefs. They have no beliefs and certain looking at through the political lens. This is, other candidate, who republicans are growing nervous about that Katie vance is somewhat ohio has become a red state in recent cycles, but here

someone who poll suggested in a tight race with tim, ryan and republic, in many ways. Have a lot of advantages for the senate this year, but they feel that who seemed deeply flawed georgia herschel walker chief among them. Giving Democrats hope they might be able to retain the Senate watch for the for the from these remarks. My view we are the employment rate is still on the lowest. history to three point six area, still find ourselves with people investing My hope. Is we go from this it to steady growth? and so she will see some coming down, but I don't think we're going to god willing. I don't think we're in a recession. That's president Biden yesterday saying he doesn't believe the gdp numbers being released. This thursday will indicate the country is in a recession,

they're in chief zan, eight million deaths? Thank you so much for being here. Let's start there with the economy, inflation obviously top of mind here then I say it's but glow. Lee as well. Give us as to how nations across the globe are combative, and where the? U s, ranks in their fight. So I think everywhere, as inflation absolutely around the world, and pretty she ran the world. There is fear of recession, as you heard, is it in here word about that? We may well see another quarter of gdp decline. Is it technically recession or no? It is a question in europe. Did Germany may well see the second quarter of gdp decline in europe. The big con is what happens with gas? As you heard just today, the russians have caught again the amount of gas there allowing through the pipeline into europe. That's the biggest problem for europe. Is it going to face an energy showed that tips it recession and then in asia. The problem with china is its virile covert policy, which is keeping the plan for the economies have everywhere. Recession is a problem. I think the. U. S is probably relatively strong

many I think I'm here now. This is an economy that doesn't feel like it's going into a deep recession, suddenly thrown unemployment numbers to low but more or what you just said there about the european economy primed to take their hit with russia. Announcing new plans to reduce gas exports. After already cutting back flows to forty per cent capacity, Russia's state owned gas monopoly said yesterday. It would crimp exports again to twenty per cent along the stream. One pipeline that the world's largest subsea pipeline, where natural gas from russia is exported to germany. And then shared throughout europe last week, limited. those resume through Nord stream, one after an annual maiden shutdown despite russia, claiming the cuts are due to technical problems. Many world leaders have accused moscow of using gas exports to wage a proxy war with the west. I think we probably should not take moscow at their word for the reason for the reduction, but how worrisome is this if it stays at twenty percent and what? How is it a harbinger?

could be a dark, cold fall. In winter. For europe it could test resolved to stand with ukraine adventure, the yes, I mean. I think this is absolutely not at technical problem. I'm it's a very coincidental problem that it happens now at the real risk. Is that if it stays at twenty percent, the europeans cannot build up the stocks in the way that they were planning to get them through winter. If President Putin does cup gas off, I think, given what he's doing now, it has to be at least a high expectations He will play more war games with gas going through the winter, and that is a real problem for europe. My part of techniques, rush is any. How would you describe in economy the american economy, where people when you to them. They complain about the increased cost of gasoline scarcity and food shells of some items and the cost of meat and chicken things like that? And yet, when you asked me about how are you doing personally, they say while presently I'm doing ok, how do you Explain the dichotomy of that kind of an economy,

I you describe it as a confusing economy. I think really pretty much any economist you talk to now you what they say with a pinch of salt? No one really knows: what's going on, there are signs that the economy is weakening at the same time, you're completely right, the consumer is in strong shape. Unemployment is incredibly low. Still have a lot of savings from their stimulus checks and so forth, I think, might take, is it slowing? Inflation is a problem. What happens depends on what the fed does. How much more aggressively does it tight raise interest rates? Will that then tipp the economy into slight recession or into them steeper, and I think it's the fed really what there is to pay for representative. Let me ask there's a lot of times when we have these discussions over the: u s who took about europe and with putin, is doing and in the impact, but we don't talk about what's going on in asia and africa, a lot of these decisions cause food shortages, oil shortages, all over the continent of africa and asia. Talk

the impact of what is going on in the west on the rest of the world and Putin is able to manipulate a lot of that too. allies like in africa I and other places only because he's using economic and and some of his foreign policies to do what has been in many ways: halted by people. by nations in the europe, certainly right, one of the biggest shocks hitting people in them right now is the worrying price for food and thanking the food catastrophe in many parts of north africa because you create- and russia are the biggest exporters of wheat in the global markets and many other agricultural products? So does this real challenge that in the last

Today's there's been an agreement, as you know, between the ukraine and russia, brokered by turkey, to get some of the food out of ukraine, but within hours the russian sent a missile to address the the port there. So no one knows it: that's really going to stand so one. soon as will the grand get out will now be be more supply for africa. But the other, as you say, is the propaganda wool, the russians are very effectively claiming to people in africa that this is the result of sanction and it has nothing to do with them. But, of course it does have to do with russia's invasion of ukraine. That's the real cause of all of this, but present president putin foreign minister love robberies in is in africa. As we speak going round african countries basically saying this is all the west's full. It's a limp fault of sanctions, Message on fourchan is going, is sort of hitting home and there are many people outside the west who nothing blade in the west for this and that's a real propaganda victory for vision. Certainly, the economy dominating discussed

in the uk last night in their first debate between the top two candidates, hoping to be the ukase next prime minister, or an outline everybody understands the cave. It is a one in one hundred year event. To pay it back straight away so quickly that we She damage our economy that we end up, causing a recession that we end up in people being out of work and the hard working taxpayers who do the right sing have seen their taxes rise, despite the fact that we missed in all member states, while also cause I've. That's an ethical dimension. You just mention three countries: do you know what mortgage rates or in the? U s at the moment, you want to use them as an example that mortgage rates from was fifty four the higher the mortgage rights in this country is a boring so much I'm. Someone really has a long way to actually how jack. Today, s ears that foreign secretary list, trust and former chancellor roget sooner clashed in their first televised debate,

the final election results- are set to be announced by early september. It comes after current prime minister Boris Johnson announced his resignation earlier this month after several scandals, and some of his own ministers quit now hey. Conservatives have a choice to make. They can pick a former chancellor who helped bring Johnson down, or his loyal foreign secretary stood by his side. So that's like a pretty stark contrast but give us your sense of la last night went but worth stand in this race, so it was pretty last night, you had a disagreement, their guard, it don't even more fiery. They were really shouting across each other. There is, in fact, mental disagreement with these two one wishes to, like the chancellor, believes that Britain doesn't have room to cut taxes, that he's got a huge debt burden and that inflation is the biggest problem and that that is what needs to be focused on, and only when that sport how can that be more tax cuts? Trust is very much in the kind of

jam today and jam tomorrow, can peanuts, boris johnson news to believe in. You know that, Your cake and eating agencies continue imagined. She thinks the thing to do now is to cut taxes and that that's what where's economy needs to stable recession, as you heard, they already I fundamentally different views and until you got a real choice there, but the weird thing in the uk- and this is crazy system. We have the people who to elect the next prime minister are not, country as a whole. is the members of the conservative party, so the the the concept mps will hold the list of potential mps down to two. These two now ghosts members? This is I think it's about one hundred and eighty thousand people disproportionately. the disproportionately male disproportionately kind of somewhat so the centre right or perhaps even further than nor your average rate, but they are going to be choosing the next prime minister and so to appeal to them more out of these two, as you can see that both trying to kind of be the as of

It's really interesting. She she, let's trust, has tried to look like and I wish you say- and I very much portrays himself as an arafat to get there these two very different views, it's about zanni, you do have a crazy system. There released, you don't have the electoral college so which system was crazy. I know I know it's you when you have a constitution, but it's not written down. It's very weird anyhow. Why are there other differences? Besides the tax question, I mean that is the fundamental question, but how do they differ on huge issues like climate change, on an attitude towards russia and ukraine and foreign policy, or are there other big differences or is it basically? Does it come down to taxes,

The main difference is on the economy and on tax on the other areas you cite they may. Differences of new wants, but actually the more interesting thing is that both thank both from a shift on climate. I think that they're both going to be less cost own green. That The Johnson administration was. quiet? I think they both will be continuity, cannons she's, the foreign secretary, the uk, is, is very proud of its role in ukraine. Boris Johnston's it's one of the areas where boris Johnson is perceived to have done very well, and I think that both going to continue that,

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slash MSNBC worthwhile, the year sweeping across northern california NBC news, national correspondent miguel Applegate, has the latest from the front lines. this is what California's wildfire season looks and sounds like now exploding into the largest inferno in the state this year. The oak fire burning near yosemite is also the most volatile blaze of the season. Torching everything in its path, appreciate our how it was this, either with two thousand firefighters on the ground. The outside is raging out of control, destroying at least ten structures, including newlywed, stephen andrea wards, home, which Iraq did into a fireball.

Looking over my my shoulder- and you know this- that we had just gotten married at two weeks ago, with three thousand people forced to evacuate. Thirty two. One hundred structures still lie in the path of the fire. Has the blaze breaks off and moves in multiple directions? Firefighters are having a tough time, stayed in front of it, now they're using the help of the air attacks, but even a steady line of fire retardant. Isn't stopping the blaze visit well from outer space. The suffocating blanket of smoke has now drifted words of miles choking. Skies near the bay area, it comes amid deadly temperatures like it either country thirty, seven million under heat alerts, but it's the pacific northwest that could see temperatures rise.

As high as one hundred and fifteen degrees. The back on the fire line, some good news. The inferno is moving towards burn scars like these, where there's little fuel for flames. Stuff is just stuff, but it's still amazing to see what, for some, the damage is already done. Calif is most destructive fire of the year. Certainly be the last NBC's miguel almaguer with that report and clearly if climate change, eugene Robinson and you have written about this existential threat yet again today Yes, I have to few about it until we started doing something about it, look look. We we have to eat, we we know what's causing it and it's it's gone because the carbon emissions, the the carbon and other

greenhouse gases that we put into the atmosphere that have warmed the planet, and we have to deal with that, but we also have to deal with the warming we've already cause with the changes we've already caused the mega drought in the west and the heat waves that you see reflected in these fires, the it'd be just hadn't had the heat wave here, it's coming to the pacific northwest next, the coastal flooding that we're we're seeing. This is not an american phenomenon. We're seeing this sort of thing around the world, but specifically here we're going to have to adapt to to what we've done there. It's going to have we're going to have to rethink the way we manage the forests in the in the american west that are prone to fire, we're going to have to rethink how we keep people cool in these. These potentially lethal heatwaves, we're going to probably have to erect some big barriers in front and for some of our major harbors and then cities to protect them from flooding, and so we have to move on both practically have to admit

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