It's a busy time to new york city, because leaders from all around the world are in town for the un general assembly, I just want to say on behalf of all new yorkers. This could have been a zoom have we learnt good morning and welcome to morning joe it's Wednesday september, twenty first, the last official day of summer, there is much happening today. It is the first in person meeting of the united nations general assembly since the pandemic and pressed and by is set to speak this morning, just as Vladimir Putin announced a major escalation in the war in ukraine, that's all opening overnight, calling up reservists and threatening a possible nuclear response, as he's suffer major setbacks on the battlefield and the geopolitical landscape plus the latest in that trunk documents case, as it goes before, these special master, the former presidents attorneys, refuse to back up there.

In that trunk declassified the documents before taking them to him, club in florida. We'll have the reaction from the judge, and it is quite telling also the attorney general of new york is set to make a major announcement later this morning, as she investigates possible fraud then the trump organization will discuss what that is this meant might be, and new developments in the story of the migrants flown to Martha's vineyard with some who were so to the massachusetts. Ireland, now filing a class action lawsuit against floor, governor two scientists will have details on that with us? We have the host of weight to our lay. What has been at politico, Jonathan, le maire, former the george w bush white house and state department, at least Jordan she's, an MSNBC political analysts, willie is making his way back from london Joe. As co van I'm just

negative so far, but not feeling great so I'll keep you pose stand. But let's get right to the news. We begin with the major overnight move by russia, russian president vladimir Putin announced he is calling up hundreds of thousands of reservists, while also proving a move to a necks portions, ukraine in a rare pre recorded, address, Putin claimed the west is quote trying to destroy us, and that quote russia will use all instruments at its disposal to counter a threat against its territorial integrity. This is not a bluff, the potential We're threat comes in that major setbacks for the kremlin on the battlefield. Russia is also planning to hold sham referendums. Beginning friday, on parts of you in joining russia. These its are illegal under both ukrainian and international law, a spokesman for the poor and then of ukraine said, the referendum would effectively eliminate any chance for a diplomatic end to the war. Let's bring.

the president of the council on foreign relations, Richard hoss, richard make of this, especially given the fact that world leaders are getting to turn their back to Vladimir Putin. He is a corner and the core This is not a bluff, what's your response, but I think it is a bluff. gets to intimidate the west to intimidate ukraine. I think the most interesting thing out of all of the pronouncements meagre is The call for a partial mobilization up to now pollutants basically want to run this war on the cheap, special military operation. The fact that he is now talking about bringing out and bring up the reserves and veterans, sir hundred thousand to me this cement too, how badly the war is going and that is willing to take the risk of real domestic opposition to the war, less of a risk for him than to simply look we continue to lose the war

can't lose the war, I believe and hold onto his military as political position, attacks actually have been coming against a recently. Apart from the right. Bloggers. Another conservatives twining Putin's basically decided to double down an issue trying to intimidate us, and I think we have to continue to help ukraine I'd say one other thing, and this this this this this may seem somewhat radical. I think the united states and nato need to tell Putin if you were ever to use nuclear weapons, but I can respond in kind. We don't want nuclear weapons to be commonplace, but if you were to do so, we would draw up our self imposed in addition and restraint of joining the war. We would then swore on ukraine sign physically, and we great, every square inch of ukrainians territory, choice, including anything you have next through these sham referendum. I think we need to essentially respond to Putin's bluff, love care

is how these referendums are going to go. What you think the russian people are, how their written response might way out. Are they so completely blacked out of news that they won't have? Any scepticism about this and finally, the position that you s, prayer and Joe Biden asean as he set to speak today. How does he carefully now gate without making too many blanket problem this on terms of though the referendum, yet I think some russians were made. Many russians will say why not. These are ethnically russian areas to a significant extent partner, so manipulated and control the political narrative, the information slow it off an elegant, little ass. All residents, bigger problem, no again is the the war is. This is not going well brains already responded negatively to to these calls referenda by think it changes anything. I think from vying for president Biden at the you meant today

try to back up the west, both the united stage and europe. Europe sooner go through a long, cold weather, president's list. So, let's get you started calling this the winter of art, discontent and what I think the present I used to do by the way. What exactly the secretary general of the united nations failed miserably to do is talk. how significant it is, but the world this day not not to let this crash since their repression we also talk about climate change, I expect will also try to clean up some of these remarks, the other night about by one and so is not a new practice with with china. the focus will be on backing up. The union It states and more broadly europe stand up to decide to do. The russian intimidation and russian shut off of its energy exports at least

when you can take it to richard. But you worked at the state department in know, on the eve of the president, making a major speech like this to have such late breaking news and such a at least a verbal escalation. What are your thoughts on what happens behind the scenes here putting certainly knows that his actions are dominating the conversations behind the scenes at the eu in general assembly right now, and you ve got so many diplomats and world leaders russian around and talking about what, he's doing? And I imagine a lot of different remark surveying shuffled around to, but sure what I would say to you is: wouldn't you now beat the best path we'll time for ukraine to actually negotiate with russia coming from a point of strength. After reclaiming some territory and Putin, clearly operating from weakness, this stage in the war

I don't think so. Release prisoners still controls on twenty two percent of ukraine is still pissed, was probably ninety seven. Ninety percent of the land that he's taken since two thousand and fourteen ukraine is not interested in negotiating. I met with the foreign minister a couple of days ago. I was in ukraine last week and met with the entire leadership not interested in negotiating basically understand, but the negotiate and negotiating table will only reflect the battlefield what they wanted. It was reverse russian military gains and then they'll say you were happy to have a satellite based upon the complete duration of our territories. They are not interested in how low for three quarters of love- that's, obviously not something we should accept that would constitute for defeat for half. I simply think all this talk about negotiation and diplomacy, way way way. Premature. It's a pine tree Neither side is prepared to compromise so

jonathan le Maire, with this late breaking news and the president's said to address the united nations general assembly today, Obviously he was gonna to confront, ukraine situation, but he was also going to talk about that food crisis, climate crisis, and yet it's connected. So what are you hearing behind the scenes you receive this news? Putin overnight came during the middle of the night here in new york, where all the world leaders, including president Biden, are sleeping preparing for the united nations general assembly's, but white house is waking up now. We certainly anticipate this will be a central piece of the president's remarks. Of course, the central issue is always going to be about the structure conflict between ukraine and russia, but now this expect a firm warning from the white house, from Biden directed towards Putin about the threats of nuclear weapons, about this mobilization and also I'm told in your right make it that

crisis the energy crisis, the cold winter had in europe. It is all connected, but look for the present also to aim some messaging towards other nations, india, china I know who, though they have not gone out of their way, to help russia, not not in terms of arms or equipment, but also have not forcefully condemned. Russia's actions have still been in business with russia by energy supplies, allowing Putin to fund his war machine now the leaders of india and china, not in pr in attendance today at the united nations. In fact, a number of world leaders didn't make this trip, but certainly the you'll be heard in those world capitalists precursor to delivered in person at the g20. fall in indonesia hour. I will

covering this developing news throughout the show, president of the council on foreign relations richard us. Thank you very much for coming on early this morning at the last minute. We want to turn now to the other big story of the morning. Yesterday's first hearing before the special master in the case of the documents seized by the fbi during the search of former president donald trump Florida home in club John. raymond Dearie, who trump wanted, as these special master pressed. Try Security is to promptly more answers about whether the former president did- or did not de classified documents marked top secret fan that mar a saying quote: you can't have you and eat it if they want to The documents might not still be secret trump attorneys have argued that answering that question now would put them at a disadvantage in the face of a possible your criminal prosecution or a future legal it over getting seized document. Returned to trump

it is claimed on social media that he declassified the records he had, but his lawyers have to formulate make that claim in any sworn court filings, judged here it didn't issue any worldlings at the hearing, but appeared sceptical about terms intention that he had dick pacified, the more than one hundred highly sensitive documents in question found at mar a lago, some marked top secret. And while trumps filing claimed neither side had provided are showing the documents are classified jerry said the government had presented evidence. The documents are because they bear classification markings. This is kind of basic could see it right on the files dairy saying quote as far as I'm concerned: that's the end of it as team has some evidence to the contrary. Trunks lawyer suggested dearest pushed to get details on claims about deep classification was going beyond judge alien,

in order but judge dearie this agreed saint quote: I'm taken aback by your comment that going beyond what cannon instructed me to do. I'm thinking think I'm doing what I was told to do joining us now senior legal affairs report at political, josh bursting and former: u s attorney senior fbi, official chalk, Rosenberg. I guess first chuck. Can we just start with some basics here? Is there anywhere any anywhere in our government documents and basic values, rules, laws anywhere, whereupon and I can just way but want and declassified documents himself and take them to his club. It's good to start with basics. Bigger So presidents have the classification authority, but not in this way. and, by the way, a new made. This point I think abundantly clear. A moment ago. If the press,

in fact declassified this or try to declassified or to be classified some of it number one. They would process? The number two, though it be evidence that it happened, judges are used to having people answer their questions in court and the things at work political rally or in a playground, dont work before a federal judge. But when he asked simply, is earned Evidence of this has been declassified. You should have got their answer when he didn't you told him, everything he needed to know that it never happened. If it did happen, they would tell him- and so you know make us- I think, there's a couple problems here: First, the triumphal aren't gonna, get away with evading answers to logical questions and tube, because there's no evidence that a declassified these documents- the judges quite right they ever, said, the lines up stacks up in favour of the government. As you point out this, if his mark and by the way, it's the government, the current

and the administration of President Biden gets to say what is and what is not classified. So I think of very poor showing by the trump lawyers and courts in large. If not exclusively, because they just don't have the facts. To back up what MR trumpets saying on so for so, if you could break down what happened in court yesterday, because given what chacha said, I started with the basics for a reason. How could they not know that me? What, What exactly is their defence to what the judge is now requesting. Requiring and asking for just basics: well meagre. You know it seem, like the judge called this hearing with the intention of kind of putting the trunk legal team on their heels a little bit and making clear that he was drives the timing of this process. They are going to have to come forward, as you were just discussing with chuck with some evidence. If they're gonna keep pushing this claim about decline

Occasionally, it seemed to me sitting there in the courtroom with joy jerry. He was very soft spoken, but he would offer these kind of almost cost if your battles, sometimes the things that the trump lawyers had said it seemed like the as defense lawyers in a case that hasn't yet been filed, right, there's no criminal charges at this point they had. the options open to defend trump? One is sort of an ignorance defence that maybe he didn't know exactly what documents were down their moral logo and therefore he couldn't be response both for that and the other is this de classification claim and wish to fence they want to use, I think, would depend on what charges the government brings. You know if charge about classified information. Maybe they would try a d classification defence, but if it's just going to be a claim that, because lies to be told to the? U S, government or obstruction of justice, Then he might want to go in a different direction and say you know he's

I didn't really know what he had there's a lot of news, clippings and memorabilia, and maybe there was something classified in those boxes, but you know he's a busy guy and they just don't want to pick right now. defence they want to use and they made that about. The clear in the courtroom yesterday and jonathan le maire. I think the judge seems like he wants to wrap this up if getting the special master was sort of an attempt to drive things out, so they could maybe figure out different strategies he's I too want to get this going. I believe even said, want to wrap this up by something like october, sixth yeah, the toll mark. Acting from the trump legal team has always been delayed. Delay delay delay. We see that in every case at least Far too, like this judges not having an suggesting that he would want to operate on a timetable even quicker than the one that airport We have justice proposed. So unless something changes this may,

faster than we perhaps first anticipated chuck. I know your assessment is that it was a bad day for the trump legal team feel We hear that a lot What happens now with especial master would walk, is through the next couple of steps and what? What if any recourse each side has served? Judge jury has couple of things. He has the dew jonathan. He asked screen for executive privilege, I imagine there is going to be almost none of that. These, not validly so yes screen for attorney client, privilege of theirs. We know there's some of that that the government has already looked through some of these documents and set aside documents. Italy's might be subject to the eternal client privilege, He has to make some determinations about classification, the stuff we just stuff and then there's gonna be a large group of documents that don't fit in that don't fit in under. of these categories

so what he has to do. Jonathan, his figure out what goes to the investigative, even what doesn't and I imagine one way or the other the governments that want to get what's entitled to. They would like it sooner rather than later. They would could yesterday rather than tomorrow, but there's still gonna, get the stuff to which they are entitled. That means in stagnation is going to continue and to the point that you were just discussing with meagre, it's gotta, have been relatively quickly the latest, help the government. But this is not going to be inordinate belay investigations going to continue and the government's going to get the stuff The witch had entitled in thing and Josh you know, president former president trumpets out making speeches still claiming his election was stolen in its it's incredible. That parallel reality happening along with this. A group of Republican, state attorneys, general is plunging support for donald trump and as the legal

I'd over the seized documents. The eleven agencies filed an amicable brief yesterday, blasting the binding administration for quote ransacking the home. of its one time and possibly future political rival. Although the brief off a list of unrelated grievances commonly heard on right wing media networks. It ignores the issue of trump takings, instead of documents with him to his home, in fact and twenty one page filing the word classified is not used once instead, jeez argue the court. The should call viewed the vine ned assertions of good faint neutrality and objectivity through jaundiced eyes, just first the level of of this. Information remains equal way is high among trump supporters, whether its january sixth or these documents and

toward for me to understand how that is not interesting as well. To that debate and of justice, or anybody investigating former president. I make. These are pretty hard right. You might call them normally law and order type prosecutors, better filing brave and suddenly, when they get near president drop. It seems that the needle on their compas just start spinning and all sorts of different directions, and we had these unusual results where they're calling basic for the former president to be treated with kid gloves in the context of this investigation and what what weapons, and they appeal that they weighed in on yesterday is pretty important at this point, because that

the eleven circuit down in atlanta, is deciding whether their classified information. You know that was seized or the marked classified information seas from the president's florida home is going to be part of this special master review or not. So all this discussion that we had with judge dear yesterday could potentially be mood, at least on the issue of classified information. The justice department is able to persuade that appeals court that they entitled to information that was more classified and that president trump, this president trumps lawyers, have the right to review it at this time senior legal affairs rapporteur at politico, Josh bursting former us. U s attorney and senior fbi official chuck Rosenberg! Thank you both very much for being on this morning and still Adam morning Joe the mind and sewer flown to martyrs vineyard, take legal action against the man who sent them their power

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where is demanding a criminal investigation of government, the centres of florida on the grounds that he misled and mistreated those migrants that he flew up to cape cod. When you make of that, I think it's really silly. I saw that headline and you know look. We have elected sheriffs in texas and so sometimes you see someone who wants to make a newspaper headline, but but let's be clear, there's there's nothing. A common talking point seems to be emerging from top republican. Meanwhile, the migrants who are flowing from texas, two monsters vineyards, have filed a class action, lawsuit against or to governor rhonda santas alleging they were victor of fraud, Chicago as migrant organization and three, if the people who landed on the massachusetts island acute, to scientists and as co defendants of quote premium tainted fraudulent and illegal scheme for the sole purpose of advancing their own personal financial and political interests there,

the king damages and of ass, the court to block the governor. Quote, inducing prince to travel across state lines by fraud and miss rapid sanitation that comes as Florida, governor govern dissent is deliberately sewed fusion across three states yesterday about a migrant flight, keeping white house and delaware officials, guessing the tire day. The chaos started after reports emerged that a plain carrying migrants was headed to delhi, Our president, Joe Biden home state della, governor mobilized resources and community groups to receive the flight. However, never showed up the plains. landed in new jersey, just outside of new york city Biden was visiting for the ongoing united nations general assembly, but with no migrants, on board a source. Close to dissenters, told NBC news. It was an intentional move by the governor to keep the migrants issue alive. Adding quote he didn't

anyone and purposefully left people in the dark, so technically the media that the crowds everyone got. Punked. He's pretty funny. Isn't he joined now a member of the new york times editorial board mara, gay mara. you know it's very hard to not becoming and about this. But again that's another thing that run dissenters, wants at the same time, it is true. There is I said at the border. It is true both parties, could do more. It is true, much more can be done and should be done with. The very realistic crisis at the border, but this Of course. This King human lives, a group of human lives, people, human beings, and King them feel agony, fear terror,

and miss guiding them and transporting them. I do it's hard to have a conversation with someone who thinks that's funny, or that's: ok, So how to have a conversation about this week? this work for these republican governors, who think wild It is a great way to get headlines and own. The lips. While you set a meagre, That's what this is about its about owning the lips. I mean there's two separate issues. As you pointed out, there is a border crisis, its real, I think. Actually, the best response for the adults in the room is too. Walk and shoe gum at the same time, which to say addressed that crisis, balls on a humanitarian level, and just from the perspective of this as a nation of laws we do, border it's important to enforce that. It's important to understand the communities living on that water and what they are dealing with. That's all fine there, process to which the country can move forward its very politically fraud. I understand that, but that is something

the Democrats and republicans should be working on together, and at least the Democrats can come up with with a plan of their own some time since we have seen that, but then separately I mean is all a stunt. We know This is a stunt, its cruel, it's unusual, and it really has become symbolic of the largest meanness within the republican party it's just extraordinary, but of course its backfired in the sense that, of course, we ve seen americans in in places where migrants have been shipped to who have rallied to support it shows who have overcome great odds to come here, by the way our here legally. The problem is that we have these echo chambers and so action It's not clear that dissenters is going to care about what actually have on the ground, because his hard core support cars are watching fox news there really looking at how people are are responding with. kindness with compassion and

I charitably. So this is really just a political stunt and it's cruel and unusual tomorrow. Let's obviously say again: this is a stunt. These are human beings in the middle of all this, and having said that, let's talk the politics of it, and you just started to go there a little bit. I mean, I think. Surely we had some polling morning console political poll or this morning suggested the Democrats. Of course, What they ve seen here, a lot of independence do as well republicans largely approve, mrs rhonda scientists, in what is a? U right, it's only the lives about me mean it's a base play. There's someone is twenty twenty four and we have now reporting the donald trump is envious of this. is he claims that he thought of it. The santa stole the idea. So yes, that should should frame? How we think about this argument. Other bubble party is possible. The santas, This is a great political play if he We need to be their nominee a grateful. co play for him, I mean what In fact, I think

The politics of the republican party is just play the base as long as hard as you can, and that's what this is I dont know how he's going to pivot from that too makes me think, twenty years ago, compassionate conservatism of george bush, I mean we're living in a completely different universe. Obviously, but at the end of the day he doesn't care about the migrants. He doesn't care about a solution of the border, and I really doubt that he cares about people who are living at the border who are american citizens were has raised. What concerns about this when he cares about is his own. standing with the base and, of course, trying to our trump or outfox. I don't know whether we do tomorrow we're going right, you're bringing ass. He passed it conservatism, because This is not conservative. That's why also I dont get Mcconnell praising this. I dont get republican leaders praising this. How is using florida taxpayer dollars to transport me?

I grant sadism aside out of another state taxes that doesn't even deal with inter state. to another state. How is that in the benefit the florida taxpayer those millions of dollars that is not conservatism, ashes waste com, option, because its money going to feel your own political ambitions. I this where a just really gets me, because just so damn wasteful and on top being sick and just second twist, It is the kind of reno sadistic, the frog boy that knows the haitians going on and just won't do anything in his stand in another room, but he planned at all it's gross mara. This is we ve seen santos before or take vision to the right of trump when terms of the pandemic response he's these do and that again he's doing it again you know why I'm small silver lining here is that so migrants may actually end up getting better services outside of

access in florida. then they would have gotten before and so that for me, I'm trying to hold onto idea that these actual human beings are arriving, it seems in places where they are getting some more support than they guy in which is surely better than somebody coming up to protect combating fraud and human trafficking. You know with false promises, rather bizarre races, guide people are there on the ground, who are actually practising principle Of compassion and great because this guy serving care about exactly so unless you're right, it's sick, and I mean for other republicans who may have some opinions on this, that they don't feel like staring I want to share mere human beings to you now, although it's getting here to believe. I know some of have a hard time getting over I'll tromp. So maybe you can't get over donald trump. Maybe you're too scared to step

line, but donald trump. But do you really want to be in the park? of inhumanity. The part that is literally becoming inhumane. You're gonna be the party that forces a child to bear a child of its rapists, that's number one: that's your party, you gotta be the party that things owning weapons of war, free and easy for everybody. In an age where our children are getting slaughtered on a regular basis. That's your party, and now here in the eddie that thinks it's funny it's funny to mislead fathers, mothers and babies who have fled the oppression in their country. You have walked through many countries to get here to america to seek asylum. Yes, at the border, where there is yes, a crisis, and you think it's funny to mislead them, and load them up onto a plain, tell them they're going to a better place and then put them in a place

or they are sure to miss their asylum hearing so that they are forced to break the law so that they end up either deported or in jail your hilarious, you're so funny you're. So cool that must be cool to be so unbelievably sick and cold hearted, that is a republican party today is the power of inhumanity, and I'm not even exaggerating you look at those three issues. That's where you stand so good luck, defending that future elections will contain is this conversation on migrants and the issues at the border in our next hour, with former secretary of homeland security, Jay Johnson and next on morning, Joe will hear from gen z, republicans in the battleground state of pennsylvania, how they're feeling about the key issues and the former president ahead of the midterms, we'll be right back

forty nine paths they our alive, look at philadelphia for you this morning we are following a special series on the Genji vote and mourning Joe reporter Daniela Pierre. Bravo. Reports from the battle grants it off pennsylvania within It terms right around the corner. We came to philadelphia and talked to Genji republicans to ask them what issues important that these midterms are super important cause. There's a lot of things on the ballot this year that

I have not always been. I know that abortion is a huge issue and I think the most important thing that has come out of this overturning is that this is this election matters. Would you consider yourself pro choice or pro life? I don't want to label myself as either as a woman. You make these decisions that are super hard and you don't necessarily know what your life has in store later on. I support the decision to overturn roe v wade because I think it brings the power back to the people as it should have been, but as a woman, I do firmly believe in people having autonomy over their bodies. I think protect their right to contraception is important, so it seems like it's not black and white. For you know, definitely not a large part of your party feels represented by former president donald. absolutely do you feel aligned to his views and if he was on the ballot in the general would

I be your top pick. I think I would have to see who the option on the democratic side would be. What about if Donald trump was part of the general, would you not be voting for him now? You will not be voting for donald trump now. No, I think his rhetoric is too divisive. I don't agree with everything he says, but I feel like some things that he says are kind of true, but I wouldn't consider myself like a trump supporter, so you voted for donald trump in two thousand and twenty do you think like? Were you happy with his leadership? Would you vote for him again? Yes, one hundred percent cpu thought he was an effective leader was definitely an effective leader in comparison to previous leaders. We have, I see trump as kind of a little too or authoritative. For my taste. I wish for kind of a return to kind of what they see as traditional conservatism. I care more about issues and kind of end results over a specific candidate or party I'm so first, I would look across the aisle to see. What's there. I definitely prefer the santa. Why do you identify as Republican I mean identify as republican, because my family was mostly republican, and I do agree to some things that you can say I dunno I'm kind of in the middle. You know I am a republican, but I feel like you know you can kind of sway towards other parties, sometimes they would say and a moderate republican, but there are certain issues where I lean more towards the left. Other issues where I lean more towards the right. Where do you lean a little bit to the left, roe vs wade, abortion issues, pro choice, as well as gun control, gun safety, and I was happy to see some of the gun, control measures that were passed this past summer and I think, there's a way to protect the second amendment, while also ensuring that communities are safe. Definitely, the woke movement is something that I'm extremely concerned about, especially within the next five ten years, where I will,

eventually be having children, especially someone who lives in a liberal city kind of like this in swedes. People like me, who is conservative, to want to live in this type of environment, are bringing the director of Poland the the institute of politics at harvard university, John Laval, pay he's he's an MSNBC political contributor and author of the book fight? How Genji is channeling their fear and passion to save amerika, and I thought the peace by Daniela was fascinating and an end. I think let me we ask of you, agree that the herein lies the that we had some really. She had some really thought full conversations with bright young people Will they vote

ass. I think they did a terrific job really could uncovering the values of this generation, because we spend so much time talking about young people as a progressive generation. Seven percent voted outcry in mid term that eighteen, sixty percent voted for Joe body but as as the poor peace pointed out, is not a monolith. quarter of this generation is republican. A quarter is conservative in they are as likely to vote today as they were actually grew more so than they were back in two thousand, a eighteen, so fewer roupell young republic into young democrats, but both sides. I think a of the of the political spectrum are very, very engage and likely about this coming november so you know we recently spoke to former chief speechwriter president obama John fab row and he shared with us a clip from his podcast, which really folds beautifully into this conversation. He spoke with a group of young voters

in southern california. Listen. How many of you plan voting in the mid term elections this november went aside created here for I could, I filled out a valid like a couple weeks ago. for the november elections? I think they will. I believe there is a primary concern, is a primary election august? due to do what I do think that again, who is your member of congress and do you think there a good job. I do not in congress. Does anyone know they? Ve ever farmers, it starts this made me cry just like you know

John? It seems to me that the challenges still to figure out how to engage young people sick we even on a local level to have them understand the basic framework of political system in these were bright young people just like the folks that Daniela spoke with Yeah that that that's right micah do you know this generation, as has been the most active that we've seen, but still by definition, the most active in a midterm election, less forty percent, although that is twice the number that my generation, your generation and generation older older than us participated, but still clearly could not enough what we are hearing, though I think in it is a real can of struggle between the values of the eu, people and how they can pour with the republic and politics of today is a very different set of values. Then they then people might believe, for example, among the most important issues.

The minds of young people. We heard our abortion and and and and reproductive health. What we also concern about school shootings. We also concern about the economy, inflation, but one of the significant differences between young republic is a younger democrats. Is this idea of woke ism specifically concerns about religious freedom done republicans, a concern about losing their rights, but specifically younger republicans, concern about religious freedom in. I think what we need to do is we week we care so much, I think, about civic engagement and we spend so much time talking about the more progressive elements of this generation, but the point that we understand and we listen and respect where young republic is coming from as well mara gay here? This is fascinating. I'm wondering Did you get any sense about where

these young people were getting their information from? I think their parents, if those are republican parents, may be watching cable news fox news, but You know we don't usually see that among young people, even young republicans, so where are they gang their information from his their publican young group on Tik tok? What what are you hearing and thing One of the ethical more interesting than tomorrow is when we asked them how their values of their policies have been shaped. All young people, young republicans, are much more likely to be influenced by their parents. by the parents plates, and we heard that in general is peace, whereas young democrats are more to be influenced by their by their friends, so that at the one, significant difference but you're right. There is conservatives and republicans both on tiktok throughout social media and clearly a lot of the messaging from fox news is also is also being heard by. I repeated

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