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where's sub deal with Australia. We'll talk about that. I had, plus the debt limit, doesn't authorize new funding. It simply covers what the government has already spent with. That is the backdrop. Will Congress really left the country default good, more
and welcome to morning Joe, I met the White House this morning with some sideways rain going here and we're following all the.
Big developments in domestic and foreign affairs. Yesterday, President Biden met with key congressional democrats in an attempt to find a way forward
his signature plans
hey you, his own party, Joe, that's, a good. Another big question is why
Go to the White House on such a chamber of Commerce morning. I think inches down there having final and at that time, the love, a good hearted kangaroo, fantastic, get really
not really exactly the message that the french need to hear from an ally,
oh shading, behind their back did just basically say get over it.
I was glad to see that President fine understood that that's just that
it's not a way. Friends treat France. I believe you'd want to tell him that it's a lousy deal and then
diesel sobs that sound louder than lobster boats roaring around. That's that's fine, but you can you can talk to you about that, but
figure out a way to work at it, and I was talking to a lot of a lot of business
people yesterday, you are all saying that would have been set
easy deal to make that cod
and somehow, but just at Mappen yeah when the price
Sir breaks out his franglais goes out of his way to take a shot, two shots. Actually there at the French who are genuinely and sincerely upset about the steel in the way they were handled. As
close our industry
in a moment, but President
has pivoted a bit talking to President Mccrone. They made some assurances to each other. You would have liked to have thought those would have happened sooner before this deal was made public but privately Joseph
ball at the White House. Are admitting
behind the scenes that this was mishandled. There is some finger pointing
going on that. As you say, it would have been a very easy thing to say we understand you had this deal with Australia, we're gonna do a deal
we want you to know we're going to take care of you on the other end, here's how we're going to do it. All of that diplomatic work
I was happening on the back in after this big public international blow up
yeah. Fortunately, meagre though it is happening, and it sounds like they get some things patched up yesterday, they do
here at the White House. A lot going on. President Biden met with the parade of democratic law makers in the oval office yesterday in an attempt to get the carcass to look,
divisions and support his economic agenda. That includes the one trillion dollar
by partisan infrastructure, bail and the three point five trillion dollars. Spending bill with is
first meeting. It was with democratic leadership, and then he spoke with a group of moderate Democrats, including key senators, Joe Mansion of West Virginia and Kyrgyzstan
Lemme of Arizona, his
no meeting was with progressive, including budgetary
chair a senator, Bernie Sanders, Vermont and Progressive Caucus later Congresswoman Camilla, Jai, appalled,
Washington, the White House and democratically,
said the meeting. They were positive meetings, but
Most deadline to vote on the by partisan infrastructure bill is just days away and several senators have come out in support of the planned by house progressives to vote against that bill. Ev reckons
radiation isn't done in tandem? It's just like they ve gotta get it
their job? They really do. One party right,
telling business? Is one party fighting one job?
get this time. Let's for you right now, without support from the Ap Jonathan woman,
also CO, founder of punch, ball news and polymer she's, an MSNBC contributor and professor
prince in University and eagles.
junior so why Jonathan the President
this meeting at the White out, just like any progress made are, are we still talking about?
the end of the day. The end, by did Joe mentions both for the
Somehow this gets taken care of a trio of meetings yesterday at there's a sense that most cordially besides or all talking, but now there's no deal done yet. There's no top, like number agreed to yet there's a sense
we ve heard for Centre mansion eyes, there is a movement
there seems to be some potential moving mentioned yesterday, told reporters afterwards that fighting
it makes. A set of that might give us number you can live with. Give us number to the moderates like we're. How big can the reconciliation package got? What we still need to get your vote, but we know from the progressives where they have said that look there,
threatening to tag Monday's vote in the house that this is not done. Yet, despite being one party, it's a question of those margins being so thin and interests
the competing interests from the different sides, so there is still as the people I've talked to, whilst AIDS, including some last night, still feel coming out of that meeting, a little more hopeful that more optimism and still firm in their belief that the Democrats wouldn't sink the agenda of a preserve their own party
we're not there yet you know Anna from from the outside. Looking at it. Certainly, he can't imagine the democratic caucus, not at the end of the day, coming together and end because it there's gridlock, if Democrats or put in power of the White House, the House and the Senate,
they control their own destiny and there still gridlock and there still nothing happening. We know there
Maybe the minority for the next four six eight years
Washington, is working its wall in aid and very difficult way. I think Johnson's point. Yes, there was a sense
that too
and deal making more yesterday, but he didn't actually get a deal done. I would turn all of everybody's attention away from the White House to one percent Capitol Hill and that secret anti pollution.
Because she's, the one who,
Truly. Is India making more trying to find a way for between the progressives in a moderate and there's a lot of distrust its actions between Republicans Democrats, Joe Mansion, might need a guy say: hey we're ready to do something, don't hold up infrastructure, but the progressive do not trust you may think,
is just basically code for give us infrastructure.
Maybe reconciliation doesn't happen, sweaty. What what can progressive live with
sure I know we can't just live with the infrastructure, build as it is right,
They civil war that we described during the campaign within the Democratic Party has made itself known now in the process of government seems to me, and it seems progressives have been so this
they have been supported in so many ways. It makes sense that they were told the lie in
Wife! You know represented jackals like try us,
It seems to me that there is a sense that they're going to draw the line. With regard to this ecumenical, wonder, though, I use.
they're all the same team
I mean they're, all the same party, and they all see the cat
sequences of losing right take the gods.
Crisis of losing their Kevin Mccarthy and a lot of ill liberal people.
who have shown contempt for
the basic tenets of liberal
mark receive western style. Democracy who have covered
what happened on January, the six who have
views to have any hearings and genuine six through condemned Donald Trump.
on January, the sixth but then backed off the stakes.
Little too high prevail
I'm sorry,
sorry and I'm gonna year, lotta be being really self righteous, but allowing
build a die, because it's too,
five trillion or two point: seven: five trillion. Instead of three point:
five trillion, I'm not pushing the progressives now because
saying that an extraordinarily patient over the last eight months and in what way
Two moderates basically take all the headlights, so I get their frustration
but at the end of the day, do you let the party that
the general six investigation, when here
If you don't get a deal, nobody's nobody's, got
happy in the still even two point: five
This can be too much money for tourists and Cinema and Joe Match, and right probably
we will it's a tonne.
Money right. So so how did I get together? And maybe for you,
this out fine closed door? For I think first, you have to generate trust right. Remember. The infrastructure bill wasn't passed in the Senate
unless there is an agreement that these two bills we're gonna move in ten or so it seems to me. We should thank you talking to
progress is, we should be talking to the markets. What are they doing? How are they can see what it? What are they? The trust issues that we just brought up,
what about your kleiber. He says to me:
So it's like this Joe. If, if you have some issue, will stop the brilliant onto the kitchen table nations right. You know someone is broken and your house and you spend ten dollars.
Why didn't you need to spend a lot of Amazon? You know eventually get a wide expended. Two hundred, I was right,
We know that the problems that the country fates are huge tremendous,
and we know that the way in which we ve cover over the last forty years,
has led to the erosion of a social safety net that is made the american people vulnerable. That covert nineteen has revealed over and over again run so
what does it mean in this moment of crisis that were here
the same language, the same approach, the same rhetoric that is defined
the last forty years from the democratic side at better? So I think we got hold our ground with all due respect, though we
already move beyond the Reagan era, you look at a trillion
dollars that were spent last year, the trillions of
those provisions this year, my God,
the Reagan era,
even in the nineties, when I was in Congress, would freak out over like a two hundred and fifty million dollar increase year every year, we're talking
trillions and trillions of dollars and and and
Yes, I've been so I've been warning
about this for twenty five years. Have, let me just say: I've been raw opportunities years, but inflation has finally reared its ugly head,
Who does inflation are at the end of the day, not rich people, because they just get more return on their billions of dollars in the bank's interest rates? Go up, they just sit there. Their capital makes even more capital it's the war.
Poor its working class? It's a middle class who are the most there? So so I dont think where
when what we ve done the last thirty years in the last forty years and two point five trillion dollars on top of another trillion dollars. That's three point: five trillion dollars and top of how much money
Spend last year on Kobe
One point in the first pillar was one point: nine trillion and woke up. One point: nine train, you know was it ever darksome? I think he was saying
aliens, but trillion here trillion thereafter, while that that adds brain short just really quickly, though we
has been that the initial that initial amount of money that scale of money was actually a consequence of our
failure to invest in human infrastructure. Its precisely because of the absence
of a robust social safety net that we had to spend as much money
we have a bright in response to cope action.
so now that we're in this moment where we can,
imagine our relation obligation to each other as citizens, the role of government our lives. It seems to me that we need to put in place a robust, socially
but at the end of the day you sit. Always you said the three parts you said this Democratic Party, the Publican party in this direction is part might be.
what you were saying: it evidenced right now,
I now certainly there's no such such incredible matter on congresses plate with a bite into
hanging in the balance, for that's hardly all. This is also comes the moment where Willie that there's a debate over
that ceiling and, of course the government Corrado money, it may be shut down. That's great
those deadlines coming out. One of many way in about a week in yesterday's six former Treasury sectaries Toll Congress to raise or suspend the U S, debt ceiling or risk what they call serious.
Economic and national security harm the officials from the Carter Clinton. George, W Bush and Obama administrations wrote a letter this week to how Speaker Nancy Policy and other congressional leaders writing that have come.
does not take action. It could quote under
and trust in the full faith and credit of the United States, which they say, would be very difficult to repair current trends
secretary, JANET Yellin, also is pushing for congressional action warning over there.
kind of a quote historic financial crisis
Republicans, agree the dead sea. They must be raised with a caveat. They will not.
For a single vote to do it. My advice to this democratic government, the President, the House,
and the Senate? Don't play russian roulette? What our economy step up and raised a death failing to cover all that you ve been engaged all your along. So no effort on our part to describe our position as irresponsible makes any
because the facts are indisputable, are you really think I sat down here? I am. I am not going to vote to raise it s doing it. This is a decision. The Democrats are gonna, make
how to help us understand the strategy of square the circle, yes, that that ceiling should be raised. We believe that at our core, but not a single,
One of us is going to vote to do that
Miss Connell has been clear for the last couple of months on this issue has said time and again, Republicans are not gonna. Do this inside and intellectually necessarily salient point he's just put it held there,
in terms of what they are going to do. In fact, isn't Democrats have for the past two months kind of dilly dallied around this whole issue, saying we're gonna make the argument them isn't. This is in political science, some college, you know I mean they're, going stunningly close to not only shut down we're one week away, but also the debts and the maneuvers with which they can actually raise on their own reconciliation, become very difficult. The closer it gets to that deadline.
usually the case. I have no clean answer,
I voted against the raising of dead sailing. We went, we would do it as a group and it would always used to slap bridge, we're not generated and, of course, would get won over by both parties
it would be in the middle. The loud saying, kite this man,
towards balancing the budgeting or whatever our us, we're not going to vote to raise it and both parties would run over us. So
This case, though, you know
please long is my fear
as long as the Republicans, don't block the Democrats raising the debt sailing rosy that silly? You know
it's one of those things that we always talked about back when
in Congress. Who is always one of those things? There was nothing
with the end of the day than cheap, throw away line on a on.
Campaign trail. Nobody, nobody ever cared about. It makes the Democrats just need to bear in power.
the people in power response for the raising that limit just raise. It then get back together and do your job get good teacher bills, Don.
yeah man. I've only got a week to figure this out now is Anna says that's next Friday, so soon
repayments could stop going. Are you defaulting stop paying maxim of your creditor, so it gets ugly pretty fast, as you know, Joe and make it. This is just one peace that the White House is dealing with.
right now, whether it's the debt ceiling, these mass of pieces of legislation or, of course, now.
managing France,
Uk Australia around this big submarine deal. A lot of
rust issues, the White House, as President Biden in french President Emmanuelle Mccall, will meet in Europe next month, following France's anger over the new. U S submarine deal with Australia, the two leaders-
spoke on the phone yes pay for the first time since the deal was announced. Last Wednesday, the White House released a joint statement afterwards reading and heart quoth, the two leaders agreed that the situation would have benefited from open consultations among allies of matters of strategic,
tourists to France and our european partners, the two
Leaders have decided to open a process of in depth, consultations aimed at creating the conditions for ensuring confidence and proposing concrete measures towards common objectives.
France also says its ambassador to the Eu S
return to Washington next week? After being re called for the first time ever, the french ambassador was recalled on Friday in response to being left out
that deal between the. U S and Australia, which the french Foreign Minister described as a quote knife
the back and following yes,
is phone call between President Biden them call. The two sides announced the ambassadors return saying we will. He will begin to work intensively.
Senior? U S, officials and spat converse
She was about thirty minutes long. I think there was a lot of work there to try and make amends. The view is that the
Thus it are according to sources there at the White House, is a really really constructive partner and can really help he's. This fact, together he's been very helpful and they say when he comes back here. Perhaps the two leaders bomb meet here as well, but until then
love. All members of the national security team will meet with their french counterparts consistently to make sure there is constant communication making it clear that France plays a very important role and that this won't happen again
basically, the White House saying we're turning the page and things could have been better in terms of consistent,
indications along the way they can see that that was addressed. The
line is President Biden will meet with president macro soon, possibly somewhere around the G20. So joke kind of a reset here in a thirty minute phone call
some very clear plans, moving forward well documented Bronco and also the ambassador appearing on morning, Joe, I think most people
It is the morning jobs summit that by Roger Diplomas, exactly brought these discussions. So,
and so I guess it sounds ok
If it's ok with a French, I guess it's ok for now is
Say: move forward in a more constructive manner, but let's deconstruct this, what can you tell us about how this winter
whose decision was anew told the president. I got a great idea: why? Don't we
He bore oldest ally out of this and in stiffen sixty billion Duff
certainly the statement there. The line is, would have benefited from open consultations, that's a close, and why
speakers, as we must discuss Rhine and that, certainly they should have indicated to the French had a time this deal was coming there. So talk that dust,
revise, rejects all those of all the original decision. It was a very close held move there too, not loop and the French that they wanted to contest get this done. They feared French, we're just be ok with them or
There are further, should we ruffled, but it wouldn't have a long term damage duration while they worked.
evaluates thought that a number of people
ass. Now, security adviser Jake Solvent he and people around him and others on. The team believed that this was in consultation with the State Department, the missionary Sunday they could do. They thought it was the right thing to do. They want to keep it close held
and to not just deal with Australia and and why would they think,
a stab our partners in the back. I think they would leave. It was sixty one bill, a billion dollar deal. They had to know.
Would you Milly eight mccrone at home? They had to know that would increase Le Pen's power at home that have to know that this would put him back on his heels. As he's moving towards an election
I I can't even begin to fathom outwitted anybody could draw that conclusion that
sell allies retreated after we ve been bitch
on the show for for years about out badly Donald Trump treated. Our NATO
Serbia has been a recognition last few days, currently lack talk too in the White Nazi. Yet this should happen Hannah better. They did not take into account nearly enough Macrones domestic political situation. The fact the election is coming up next year that he could look. Perhaps
week to lose. That way, I don't mean the press. When I just don't know anybody could be blind side that you're you're sitting in the White House, and you can't figure that out like
we ve been worried about France. We
worried about a liberalism. In France, we ve seen what crime standing go down. We
seeing how matters as an ally who's been a champion of the NATO alliance and a champion of western democracy. I just
curious who was so blind or out any body, could be so blind
do that to one of your closest allies and I'm not I'm not job without any body, but if you're gonna,
have a job whispering
the present telling them what to do. You better get it right, and this was just real blunt
it's it's administration, wide blunder and perhaps an over estimation as the idea that Europe would just be ok with the idea that hate America's back now, not trump anymore. It's fine,
and therefore we're just gonna go along with it. We can run over Europe the way tromp ran over Europe and it comes out. Let us not forget, also comes on the heels of that. The decision to come out of Afghanistan, which NATO, of course, Frederick partner there also felt like was not done correctly, was not. There was not enough open consultation, so yeah this. This is right. Now
a bit of a foreign policy mess and now get we're not compare exactly where things are with the binding illustration divert where they were with Trump
we know, as you say, the relations requite fat strained and yesterday called did Joe people. I've talked to go a long way to combat things. Down to presence, are gonna meet either in ITALY or Scotland. At the summits that are coming up, they'll have some time
shouts and differences. Perhaps there will be nothing agree to yet perhaps
be some sort of make good, but this comes in a moment.
or the U. S perhaps has not restored the trust it sought among its Europe,
allies coming out of the last, but you know Willie, I guess the line from Big Tom Hanks. Where is kept looking at the toy gone, I dont get it. I dont get it
I really don't get it, because women are european
allies have been treated is disrespectfully as a
treated over the past four years
five. When tromp was there, you would think that our instinct would be endeavour,
accords do what it takes to. Let him know America's Back and
value each and every one of them as a partner
and to the extent that a White House was surprised by the french reaction. I say again the french say were surprised at your surprise. You stepped in blew up this massive deal for us, as you
humiliate and president background, who has a tough presidential
raise coming up over the course of the next year
Marine Lappin may achieve challenge or other far right candidates challenging him as well so yeah. I think why
what we saw yesterday, as John has said, is
mission in many ways from the White House in that statement. As far as they are willing to go but more forceful. I would say privately meagre that in fact they screwed this up. The question is: how did they not
those experience, diplomats understand what would come from the way they handled the French. Yes,
right now the White House and the French allegedly are saying, save all meant no allowances
Everything is once more. They get lost in the eighties single issue here Joe desire raining sideways here. By the way. Still I am warning Joe will speak to three democratic law makers, says Congress ballot,
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Eric and dies from covered nineteen. Every forty three seconds Willie in back
politics. Now, former President George W Bush is planning to hold a fundraiser next month for Republican, while
Congresswoman List Cheney, the event which is being held,
Ours is a rare campaign appearance before either president who was held.
the daughter of his vice president, as she fate
is a tough re election battle. Cheney has faced, as you know, a number of attacks from former President Donald Trump
for she voted to impeach Trump for his role in the January, six insurrection at the capital Cheney vowed to fight.
Keep tromp out of office if he ever were to run for president again, Trump has endorsed Chinese upon
He did that earlier this month, Janey responded by
telling Trump to quote bring it so Joe for our present
George W Bush had stayed out of politics in large parties lifted up his voice,
four times immediately after the attack of January. Sixty condemn not only the people who attacked the capital, but
political leaders who fan the flames of that day- and we support it later- he made it really.
Extraordinary speech a couple weeks ago on September, eleventh about the state of our political culture and now stepping out and doing something that he doesn't do often, which is endorsing a candidate in direct opposition
a former president drop them, which is
thing bad dino is: is it
really and sing at I had something that that member of his own family didn't do
chose instead of embracing his own family. To embrace Donald
up his race for attorney General
Taxes, but here was changing, is just go in there saying she's, not pretending that shit
get along with Donald Trump, pretending that she can get along with the illiberal wing of this party, whose claiming that American
I foresee doesn't work. If your candidate loses, she
go and bushes going online with
Can't you see it's gonna be fascinating. Rice! Absolutely
they were really seeing the future. The republican party in this
the way I mean being played out in real time here, right, the heart and soul. What happens for president,
in terms of does he does he started to wages more of these racist or is it just personal, because China is the last thing it is
It's gonna be a sea of less Cheney again, which which I know
a progressive to have
Fanny name for years are now
for less Cheney and it sort of breaks down
what I was saying. I second occurred Anderson yesterday. That's a cart you and I we we come from different areas here you know,
you you, you were influenced by the sweep up
in the end, the sixties and late, sixties, and and now room liberals, liberal and that's
it's what influence your worldview and still does younger.
Waited and eighty one Reagan
the Reagan era was just starting. I was swept up into that. I said, but Kurt you're not we're right. Now,
The way I see the world is it's pretty much black and white. You have people who support.
Western style, liberal democracy and you have people who support illiberal
not need not even democracy but NEO liberalism and it's it's pretty clear cut
right now. I can look past a lot.
Ideological differences. Give there's somebody like
Where's Cheney are, let me just say
Bernie Sanders and there on the side of western style democracy, I'm on their side. The way I would put it chose to some basic basic background commitments that we share:
even that. Allow us to disagree, but if you don't hold those commitments, if you,
willing to question the very thing that allow
you- and I too have the argument about what kind of democracy that should be? I'm not really interested in you. Actually, I knew you David,
I view as a dangerous element rain
so we have a core actually calling into question the very foundation of our democracy and so within the republican Party. You know that the Bush wing of
public and party has been under attack for the last four or five years. Right. Tromp has used Bush as a kind of whipping boy fall
these four all these years, and so it seems to me that those Republicans who identify with that wing of the party they need to make
A choice between those illiberal elements and those folk were
We committed to democracy and, of course, make it a doubt there they try to have,
both ways they try. This
and the middle somehow still trying to compromise with Donald Trump still thinking that
Maybe they just stay out of his way if they just are invisible during this, this phase of the
Looking parties collapse that they will get out
but unscathed, but with Donald Trump the Republic
body. Nobody, nobody gets out of a life politically yeah. I think so.
Fourteen years that the show has been on the air, you have talked about the political, hot stove, don't put your hand on the hot stove twice. They burn themselves literally down to the core at this point, and they keep doing it.
doing at speaking, swinging of congresswoman was Cheney. Coming up, we're gonna talk about the new
God, how women saved democracy from Donald Trump,
that conversation is straight ahead a morning job
Dance,
guy is things are moving over a year in the White Man's role than mere Johnny. I really appreciate it. I've propping up are you? Ok, Jordan,
for joining us now is harmless, but the wash and impose Jennifer Reuben sees the author of the new book entitled resistance, how women save democracy from Donald Trump and Jennifer Congrats
patients. The bog set the scene for rice figures.
Feel like it started with the women's March those women from but get girl bought. Something was very, very wrong. That's right, I hope you're. Ok there! This is your in biblical reigns. There yeah they really did, and I think what happened is rather than salt or pull the sheets over their head. They organised they reach out to other women. They formed
organizations, the least up existing organizations alive.
Candidates ran for the first time, others donated for the first time they became activists, some of them that elected some of them didn't, but it really wasn't. Outpouring of democracy of act
this time, democracy, and I think it was a major countries,
We are certainly in two thousand eighteen in the mid term and again in two thousand and twenty agenda.
sharp Le Maire. First, I note that I picked a good day not to be at the White House rats on the book, and I wanted to ask you about perhaps the most publican
Miss woman who stood up as the symbol of resistance to dollar trap and that's how speaker Pelosi, others that iconic photograph of her stay in the White House through gesturing at the president, while he's looking at her clearly outraged by what
point she's trying to make. They didn't speak for the last couple of years of his term to give itself a bit more about the rural policy played
the other female and officials who came to power in the wake of trumps election? Well
I think I had a unique role both because of her position and because I think her personality and her background, she likes to say, she's, a mother of five, a grandmother of nine and she knows all about unruly troll. In the end, people having temper tantrums and she from they get go was onto Donald Trump and she says that her tower, if you were military to not take any guff from him, was really
so the fact that she knew he was a little bit knots and he know she will know. We was nuts and she use that power and she used her ability, empathetic power with her own members. She really gets into the weeds as anyone who has followed her. No, she knows what they need. She knows what they like. She is a person who understands her members and what they want better than any elected leader. I've ever seen, and it was really, I think, her tutelage that really
join the argument with Donald Trump and also help to bring these women who
for the first time into Ellen.
the positions she made them sub committee chairmen. She put them on a national security committees. She saw that that's the upward path for women. That was the upward path for herself and she immediate
We began to put these women on a elevated playing that hadn't been done in the past, and so you see those women now beginning to move up, become very prominent within the house and really have very bright future ahead. Jennifer Congrats in the book
quick question project forward. Nancy policy is by all means
will believe going to be done after this Congress in terms of leadership. What's next Donald Trump isn't going away, we have the mid terms. We have the potential right.
him running for president again who's going to fill that Boyd while
It's a big one, and when I wrote this book I thought so the work was done, but of course it's not. There is still a lot of saving of democracy left and I dont know that there is a single individual. There is certainly going to be a new house speak or or New House minority later, but I think that that person or those people are gonna have to arise from within. I will keep my
I frankly on Amy Clover Char. She has been a deal made
I think her stature has risen during that presidential race that she ran. I spent a lot of time with her she's, an impressive person who understands kind of the nitty gritty the deal making has a plain spoken.
es about her that I think appeals to people. I would keep an eye on her and, of course, the vice president. It's gonna be. This is gonna, be a lot of weight on Cobbler Harrison's shoulders well good morning,
for its Willie guy. It's good to see this morning, so there we serve grew
in Congress of Congress. Women who obviously play
big Raul, there's the the so called squad with kind of so many Cassio Cortez in there
The vat group. We are kind of some geopolitics going beyond the show as well, and then there's is all the more moderate who don't get as much attention. Abbe Span Burger, Mikey, Cheryl, Katy Porter, for example. What role have those Democrats played
in this resistance, as you put it in a buck, while I think they have become extremely import,
and your right to say that they haven't gotten as much coverage, perhaps not quite as flash weeks. But if you remember they first of all that the five of them call themselves the five bad asses which a phrase which they embraced beds of moniker they like, and if you remember, five of them together with five other Democrats, came out and relatively late in the first in
hatred and really said. Okay. Now we ve seen that our democracy,
is really on the line. We really have to move forward and now was frankly the most influential thing that Tipp Nancy Police
into supporting and impeachment, they remember, she was cut off point.
means back on a lot of the progressives up to that point. So they have played a very important role. They continue to play an important role because in the mid terms, for example, to Daphne teen and going forward, they understood
but in they swing districts. Its people, like them, they're, gonna, get elected,
Elsie is terrific, but she's in a deep blue district, she's gonna bring any seats in these people. Are
when an swing states and they have to bring other women and other candidates up? Who can conquer
he's swing sates that maybe the Democrats, one in two thousand eight team lost in two thousand twenty, so I can be provided certain ballast for the party, a certain centred ness and I think of him forward those about to be some of the people to keep an eye on Rome.
Are the ones keep an eye on the like shoemakers if they win, nazi policy are the demo, whoever them,
speakers is will be speaking.
If they lose their seats. Kevin Mccarthy I'll be having two speakers gavel.
The new book is resistance. Women's save democracy from Donald Trump Jennifer ruin. Thank you
When we talk about on this topic, Eddie, I said after election night that it was beautiful, is one of the most beautiful things.
I'd seen an american democracy, something that
Nicole, Hannah Jones is sad that it has been black people who have been the perfect hours of democracy.
that it was black women who saved
Madison's democracy. It was black women, you saved Jefferson's democracy. It was black women who saved Washington's democracy from liberalism.
and by the way, just so people don't think I'm overstating this from a political movement.
Led by a president who is true.
to get his attorney general, too,
A rest. His political opponent, to
ex before the election, so please please,
Tell me I'm being melodramatic. I am night, it is black women.
his black women in South Carolina that get Joe Biden into the general election and was black women in Georgia, black women in Michigan and black women in Pennsylvania. That, in my opinion, at least
saved western democracy from the scourge of tromp, ISM and the scourge of a man.
Trying to arrest political opponents and trying to do
legitimize american democracy, unless, of course he was one who want the elections are absolutely Joe,
we look at the rate of turn out when we look at the level of organizing at the local level at the state level. At the national level, black women are the cornerstone of the Democratic party.
And they actually deployed there power. Remember, there's a reason why
couple Harris's devised for either the United States. They there there is pressure, brought to bear initially around Stacy, Abrams and others, but their repression that was pressure brought to bear. They demanded not only to be at the table because they were making the table possible, but I think is really important for us to always complicate things.
How women save democracy, how black women saved is always complicated. At the same time, we have talked about retaining police definite. We gotta talk
All of those women who might women, particularly who voted for Donald Trump. We gotta talk about the complicated nature,
the american landscape, so that we don't
we're generalised and understand the nature of the problem that we confront, but you're absolutely right. At the end of the day, my friend gets bigger
All right still, I had congresswoman formula giant remains committed to advancing the president's entire economic agenda, but, along with the majority of the aggressive caucus she's,
she will only vote for infrastructure after right
conciliation passes. She joins us ahead,
following her meeting yesterday with the president here at the White House,
Joe a meagre. I just wanted to give you just a Willie. My gun
You see the devil, where's products where
there is a hurricane going through Miami Neural Street was demanding that should get a plane, is how it's just a slight spring shower. That's what it looks like behind Mika there. It just keeps pouring more and more she's yeah.
get the animals to buy to their reminds me of actually shot Shawshank.
Emption way swims through and they get thou Yasser at the enemies, just looking up at the sky. It's raining that hard at the White House Round, and I tell you something I tried. I tried to fix it myself, but I thought that letter allay. I've started fire, yes Rodney, but here, for thirty years gave me, has hatch we're gonna go with that works,
here I'll, be right back thank IRAN Day with much more morning job.
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