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tromp get even now. Supporters of the Ex president, including taxes Governor Gregg Abbot, are digging even deeper. The latest on that states new push for an audit of the twenty twenty vote. You can trace. It all Donald trumps lies and the insurrection they helped inspire. Now the committee, thus to getting data. Tat wants to know what the former presidents TOP Aids new and when did they know it Joe GOSH words just its delightful. Isn't it the poor poor, employ a Fox news who adequate after calling Arizona for Joe Biden, I mean how could he do that Unlike eighty seven recounts, you still right Willie, but why? What I love This is so Cyber ninja guys these I've been injured, guys comment in a fight.

Still the election for Donald Trump and an end to lie in say the election was stolen and become a ball. amber stuff, but but at the end of the day, Joe by actually gets more loves. You have is Mornin just end up, saying: oh wait a second year by only one, but he get more votes. This would be like somebody hiring a group of really gnarly bank robbers too. when an ado, a high stone, a bank and then in the morning the debate officials, walk in and then orally. And grammars are counting the monies that you know. We ve done an audit you're actually like kids, I thousand dollars short each of which we will we ve, given you ten thousand, it's the exact opposite of scam. The Trump supporters for trying to set up

it really seriously can't make it up it actually you're right. It's actually unbelievable. This is a group. The siren interest Florida base, no experience what however, in reviewing elections, they do have conspiracy. Theory at the top of their organisations about what happened during the elections so Trump and his people first. in those guys, ok, we'll send them into Arizona they'll overturned the election forests. You say they come back yesterday with more votes for Joe Biden and few votes for Donald Trump, the margin actually ass for Joe Biden, America County, we're gonna, dig in it that in just a minute, but let's start with the house, Select Committee investigating the January. insurrection issuing its first subpoenas yesterday too, for a former President Donald Trump Card allies, former White House, chief of staff, Mark meadows, former deputy chief of staff for communications, Danske, a from a white House, eyes or Steve Bannon and for Pentagon Chief of staff, cash Patel

The committee says it is seeking information about transactions leading up to and during the riot and attack demanding those four men turnover documents by October. Seven They are also order to submit to depositions the following week, the subpoenas say, meadows and scobie, or in contact organizers of the rally that preceded the violence and meadows took a number of steps to undermine the election results leading up to January six sky allegedly met with tromp on January. Fifth, too, Scott's ways to persuade members of Congress against define Joe Biden victory in ban in case the committee says he attend January fifth meeting at a DC hotel to discuss plans to returned the election results that same day, he told listeners on his podcast quote all hell is going to break loose tomorrow. That's the bandit, meanwhile Patel allegedly, was in contact constantly with

those on January six and took part in it. Discussions with senior Pentagon officials regarding capital security then Meadows ends. Scavino did not immediately respond to requests for comment, tell us you two statement that reads in part. I will continue to tell the truth to the american people about the as of January. Six, in a statement for President Trump said, the requests were part of it what part as an exercise and suggested he would assert executive privilege in an attempt to block them. Make So some of this comes out also Woodward and cost does we had a mind earlier this week and they have many of these details, including Steve Ban and sitting at her room on January, the fifth on the eve of the January six attack tell in Washington talking about all hell, making loose and how they were going to kill the Biden currency in the credit that he is alleged to have put it. Some of these people are going to have to try and prove

They couldn't have known about this because it was as we are finding here, just all coming together with a lot of people leading up to that insurrection. This all could set up legal showdown between Trump and the Biden White House, which is reportedly leaning toward released more information to Congress, about what the former president and and we're doing on and you are a six two people familiar with the discussions- tell the watch and imposed that, given the gravity of the events on that day, President Biden play to err on the side of disclosure and grand requests from the House Select many. The House Select Committee says it is already received thousands of documents from all seven government agencies from which it requested information The national archives has also sent documents to Trump for review a process for

by law. Before the information can be turned over to congo- Joe. There are so many people involved with what led up to January six. I just one. Where accountability or what accountability looks like at some point we just need information. Wiccans in the house and set it almost every one of them are trying cover this up there. I voted against a bipartisan by Cameron, sweet investigation to get to the truth, because they understand that some of them leaders were involved on January. The sex, somewhat mad phone calls with Donald Trump that they bragged about two other members that they now don't want the american people to know the truth about, and there a lot of Americans who want to know. who around the president was guilty of of committing treason that

There are a lot of people who want to know who the president's men, and on women were planned. Those rights to overturn an election return, a democratic election, America we have to now, and when the present it say but this is a partisan exercise that so two thousand and eighteen kind of cute. When Donald, says that dolls in Kyoto when he says that there is executive privilege, When you are dealing with sedition, Numb Donald I've got very bad news for you when you engage in sedition against the United States of America. You're not gonna, find federal judges that are going to You know what we don't care he was sitting there and watching that elimination, cheering on the rioters and refusing stop the riot and his his is

we're talking behind the scenes we're talking about how all hell was going to break loose. The next day were working even the lawyers were working. theories, which we really haven't talked about enough here. On how to O. Turn a democratic election. And then how to stop the continent she'll counting of the electoral votes On January the sixth, there is now executive privilege. trees- and there is now executive privilege for today, there is no executive privilege for being in agents, addition or being a part of sedition or are our foreign urging sedition? So we to have the investigation we have to have the documents we have to know what the present new when I see ban and new when he knew it, but all of them

some say knew when they know it. And it's not willing to do that. Tough, just going working phone records, gonna try the people who don't want to go to jail, gonna, let the chips fall, where they make, as is still as America. What you're saying on tv here they failed We still live in America, Actually, the law matters. Your vote still counts, No one like Donald Trump has a right to. Really throw away you're about when he does when an election that happens in other countries. That still doesn't happen here. NL the investigations, the wheel, investigation, Swordlets ringing right now, New York Times reported MSNBC National Security, analyse Michael swayed. Also,

former you are centred around NBC News and MSNBC political analysts, Clare, mechanical and also Whitehouse editor for Politico SAM stuff, My question is: what can you tell us? I think what we see here is something that is obvious, but really important in that it is these d b Donald Trump is not present. Any war makes much more easy to investigate when trunks be scrutinised, whether Louis by smaller, during the first impeach May, or even the second in each one was the first impeachment trumpet ability to stop the arguments for going out the door. He had the ability to try and stop witnesses he control the Justice Department because of that gave him an enormous amount of power to sort investigations to make it much more difficult to get the information,

and now it has been stripped of their power. We see these investigators moving in ways getting sick. The White House willing to turn over he needs from the trunk boy ass. We be able to now see into the White House in ways that we did before My guess is somewhere on January six and now White House were correspondence between people, maybe at the tip top at the chief of staff, but lower down document D. What was going on enjoying back and forth about what was happening in what president was actually doing because at the end of the day we know a lot about January sex, but we don't know why you are we don't know. What on about is what trunk was actually doing. There's been some reporting you know about about how he was watching us, but more details on that. Everything are critical

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Claire these are bold face names. Obviously, Mark Meadows, Steve Ban in Cash Dan Dance, casino, who'd been subpoenaed here. You're. The perfect personal talk about this. Having served in the Senate and also served as a federal prosecutor is a process. Or in the state of Missouri. So what happened from here there could they could challenge these subpoenas. They could save in Europe, have legal standing to subpoena me. What what's the next step this process and if they are called up and if their documents are taken and reviewed, what does that mean? for, say, mark meadows. Well along? This will depend on trumps penchant for going to the courts. I have a sneaking suspicion. They Donald Trump Well tell the national archives. No, no You're not. I do not authorize you giving all these documents out and then you're, probably going right. the courts and what I think he's banking on, and what he's gonna try to get his acolytes to agree with my

The longer you take ultimately allow these documents to be seen by the american public, the more likely they are to lose interest, and I knew not having subpoenaed things the and had to go to court as a senator to get things from a company, we went all the way to the Supreme Court. In literally it took years to get the decision. actually compel testimony so one of our big. This is in our system right now, as we do I have a prioritization in the courts, of determinations congressional investigations and their ability to get witnesses and documents. So I'm I'm guessing it. This is gonna. Take a while because I think that Donald Trump will use every tool you got in there familiar we're trying to stall things in the court's. You know clear. We we haven't talked about it enough on the show by while we're talking about a girl

both thugs trying to overturn an election and american presidential Election Why don't we bring up I'd love to get you to talk to our our friends that are watching right now, listing right now on radio talk about? Speaking of Marguerite, Johnny's Means memo where he gave MIKE pants advice on on basically how to shred the constitution, Undermine the will of the the eighty million eighty two million voters who voted for Joe Biden an end at bay, clean trash american democracy It's really scary about that member Joe is this is a man who was trusty to teach lawsuits. that role around in your brain. For a minute I mean idea. I may I listen to the people on the right saying, oh higher,

Education is full of communist teachers and Socialists teachers and it's all left wing this guy. Not job was behind a lot. in a law school teaching students about the law and clearly has no respect for the law I cannot imagine how this guy could keep a law license. I think any or I don't care how frumpy in the court is, would look at that and look at the reality of our founding fathers document that we have lived by. Been proud of all these many years and not so yeah. Don't belong in the law. Buddy, you belong out there. You know maybe selling computer somewhere because This is not something that you should be embracing and nobody should respect this guy's opinion. I would like to find another law, professor. That says that John Eastman memo was any close your reality under our constitution will ya The problem is maker that he wrote that memo

an used. His legal training at one most dangerous times in this his country's recent history, when there the present actively working to overturn the results of a U s: election, a presidential election and that memo act. Sought legal justification. return and election to throw out the results of an election to not count electrical votes on January, the sex is gets breathtaking and I agree with with with clay I can't imagine who would want their children to be tied by somebody that was asked really working to try to undermine election results. Now idea, A Republican Commission commissioned review of nearly two point. One million ballots cast last year in Arizona, has confirmed

to the accuracy of the official results and President buttons when in Maricopa County the draft report for cyber ninjas confirms the counties. Canvas of twenty twenty general action was accurate and the candidates certified The winners did in fact, when Maricopa County tweeted. Last night, I've or ninjas is the Florida based Cyber Security company, leading enough for five Republicans to audit the twenty twenty presidential election in Arizona in a statement. Maricopa count, board of supervisors? Chairman Jack seller set in part? This means the tabulation equipment counted the ballots. they were designed to do, and the results reflect the will of the voters that shit the end of the story. Everything else is just noise, Maricopa County did not release the draft NBC Affiliate Cape.

Annex a phoenix said it obtained a copy of the report and that the review Ireland's fired, his victory margin by three hundred and sixty votes, the findings. are scheduled to be released later today in the state Senate Willie soon there's a very unhappy former president waking up to this news that these cyber ninjas conspiracy group, whose sole purpose was, overturn the election results in Maricopa, with no ex it's doing any of seizing a voting machines with the backing of State Senate Republicans in Arizona allowing them to dig through all this stuff finding more votes for Joe Biden and fewer for Donald Trump. yeah, I mean the is pretty rich. I this should be the final chapter when you have a group as official as the cyber ninjas weighing in I mean that should be, it case closed, but

I mean this is basically confirming what we ve known for months and what a waste of time and money some crackpot group Florida coming in to try to overturn a state funding more As for botanist privilege, except we all know that this is not the end of it, I mean yesterday Donald Trump put out a statement calling for I gave it the governor of Texas to em racing audit of the Texas twenty twenty results, a state that he won handedly he's trying to pursue a fifty state. Audit strategy were saying that happen only two and really, as is hearing care, much now about twenty twenty of the idea that he reinstate into office was always fanciful, but you know that was happened in August, we're way past August. Now, what do you care about is having the levers and placed the powers at his hand, who potentially football actual results run again in training twenty four in some. These voting laws and, in the end in the basic justifications for these audits, is to create, Mechanisms for future runs to question

the legitimacy of election results. So it's pretty scary, stuff You say there is one common thread: the ties all this stuff together, the audits sovereign injures Eastman the insurrection, which is why these people we're trying to overturn elections. form an insurrection. What what we can step back and really concluded that they will be one of the best and brightest behind this right. I mean no offense to dance casino, but like he was a show me the director of the White House. He was but out of his death when he was trying to plan an insurrection. John Eastman. Yes, he's a rural society lawyer. But here you know clearly is out of its depth. When he's trying to in an insurrection, sovereignties, They doing in Arizona it's crazy. So each step back and you wonder what if they Actual professionals is more serious minded people trying to do, and you begin to when or how much worse it could have actually been. We aged Egon lack of endurance, we feel can always be fixed with more and more caffeine. Introducing

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this election. He won the state of Texas by six hundred twenty one thousand votes and five and a half points, but still wants a review of the vote. There he's fine killing he's also taking aim to senators who were among his most loyal republican allies when he was in office for now, going along strongly enough with his claims of election fraud. In a statement on Wednesday prompts at you. Senator MIKE Lee and South Carolina. Senator Lindsey Grand should be quote ashamed of themselves for not putting up the fight net sorry to win. This came in with honesty, journalist, Bob Woodward and Robert Costa, who reported in their new book peril. The senators personally vetted trumps claims of twenty twenty election fraud and were unconvinced Joe all this together we met the siren inches in Arizona. We ve got Trump supporting a big red,

out in the state of Texas that he won by six hundred twenty one thousand votes he's going after Lindsey Gram of all people who had been at his side through thick and then, and now these subpoenas coming from the House Select Committee, President, as I said, is flailing again that this is This is what we ve been warning Republican Party about four for four or five years that follow this guy he's got it you into the server and he's gonna few in the search for as long as it serves the purpose of this report, in party is now dedicated to supporting. These crazy audits with It's like the guy running for Governor in Nevada, who used to be a? U S, senator who won't even say that Joe Biden won the election. There were dedicated to not of funding. conspiracy terrorists, then they

just telling the plain truth: the truth that everybody knows so suggests the salute madness of at all, sir, burn engines in Arizona Ban, though, we counts in taxes in states where Donald Trump wine. every single person looking at this in the federal judiciary, saying there's nothing there and and and yet there still is a fail tee for some reason to Donald Trump he's. You could not, if you were the shrewd is democratic operative ever born, you could not come up What are they conspiracy than that we're audacious and and and and more rushing then the poor that Donald Trump hatched when he

went down that escalator back in June of two thousand fifteen. He is destroying this party bit by Bit Dave a day year by year he lost from the White House. He lost them. House of Representatives he lost, then Congress Still is not enough that the conspiracy, theories keep going and people still keep back doing and scraping to really, let's face it. The biggest political loser lifetimes I mean and what you're around when a Herbert Hoover. Whilst the White House, the House and ascended sad really? It said that that these Republicans strong enough recognize it America needs a conservative party, America needs an alternative to

where's chamber crowds of merit needs of an alternative to policies that many believe or or out of, much with Middle America, but they don't have that party in Donald Trump and Michael There were so many predictions that the further we get away from the election. The further republicans would would get from Donald Trump, but new, look at Vienna, Heller out in Nevada and you look at- Their candidates had gathered a niece, a shadow of himself. Every he's nobody would would have guessed that Gregg Abbot would put on a dance cap. lay the Idiot governor role that he's been playing. Bring covert and over the past several years I mean this is the guy that was a name stream main street republican and now he's

us doing everything it can to make a fool of himself Rhonda sad Ass, a guy who free covered had approval ratings in the sixties. He keeps doing his best to imitate Donald Trump and it's not serving them. Well, it's there is political Day trading, and why can't I? he's done. So I can't look at Donald Trump what happened to him and see what in the house and see what happened to the Senate and I see how this play. funds for them! Well, as you point out, as has been going on for times, I am not a money. I am surprised to that. They can t deal as far as their when I am also surprised, sky is the fact that their doesnt, really, here too the Cd Roms way It turns out of stopping anyway That's right, so you this outcome.

RO the orbits investigators, it doesnt have you no support from many republic is evil, be looked at, Unfortunately, we are liable to characterize wherever it finds as far as in each this department and soon. indication or interest in looking anything that happened at the trouble level in terms of January six or we're during the election, everything being done by this disaster, Capitol Hill still either You stay here to uncover some really really nasty details. The wind up in this report will come out. We'll cover it I can imagine that Republicans will give it anyway. And all this time tropical have continued on to be doing things. We were just talking about trying to with people like lazy, grim back and why to supporting him cease to hold these. You know

cows or whatever is going on in taxes. Were there looking at these different guys doing that a crime that country, where your sewing now down yourself the down at the local level, local voting system by the time, all of wrapped up. We will be in a year or two from now heading into the next election cycle. Where the president will have position himself and obviously, three and a half years is a long period of time by you know drum certainly looks as well position today, as as I've seen eye Michael Cashman, Thank you so much for your reporting again from the closet, fair, but we'll move on now, majority leader checks, humor is planning on getting Senate. Republicans. On record by setting up a vote on the short term government spending bill and debt limit extension. The house passed earlier this week.

Every single member of this chamber is going to go on record as to whether they support keeping the government open and abroad or averting the default or support. Shutting us down and careening our country towards the first ever default. But if they vote no, the republic in Peace Eddie whoops be solidifying itself as the party of default joining us tat, Democratic Congress, Josh got hammer of New Jersey, he's co, chair of the house problem, solvers Caracas, and there are some problems. To be solved here? Is the government gonna be shut down? We can't afford The gunman be shut down, so we're gonna have to all get it done These aren't moments are meagre. Right always gets a little messy until the end and this. Those moments, but it's gonna happen we'll get this done. So what are the different standing on the different ills that any legislation that Democrats and Republicans working on human infrastructure?

for example, what is going and are being left behind, like, for example, is paid, leave gonna see the light of day. I certainly support it. You know, what's going but in the end I think that is in the light of day. I believe so, but you know the first First things. First on Monday, as you know, meeker we're gonna vote and in consideration of infrastructure, the rose, the bridges, the tunnels, climate resiliency, all things that are critical, historic once innocent free legislation that came out of this in a bipartisan way. To your point, with nineteen Republicans in all fifty cent, a Democrat someone from Bernie Digital Mansion and vote on that next week and get that done and Conseil and continue our work on reconciliation, which will also pay ass, our still, on that, and I am optimistic about that as well, but by the Good NEWS is, we can have a big winds. Country early next week? I guess that there are a lot of different moving parts. What are they gives that republican

that you can offer Republican so that you can work in a bipartisan fashion also for next week on it the infrastructure bill in the coming out of the Senate? That's already been voted on, as you know, and where were you, we ve got a Democrat and Republicans ready to vote in a big way on that bill and next week that legislation is done on the reconciliation. It was, as you know, is still being worked on You left, that's a place where we're all sitting down table and and very close to getting something agreed upon that legislation an unfinished, and then immediately moved to consider that legislation, congressmen, Memorial Willie guys, does you know you're progressive colleagues. Among Democrats have said, there is a trillion dollars infrastructure package without the three point: five trillion dollar reconciliation bill. What do you make of that strategy and could that group of cod Women and men hold up this entire process. Why hope they wouldn't hold up the president's agenda,

and two million jobs a year and a trillion dollar infrastructure package. That's historic! That's literally added send sitting here waiting for us to consider in the house now that that would be horrific. Obviously, for the country look well, you know just in in Jersey where I know I know you know well, hurricane I'd, so hard in my district there's. There are sources for climate resiliency in the instructor package. That would help in in crises like that, and obviously way tunnel between New York and ensures that the train tunnel- that's a hundred thirteen years, all right now. That needs to be replaced with the things that are on the line here, not to mention all the hard working men and women over all those job, so we ve gotta get that done why any any small fraction of the democratic caucus that up, and we all agreed in August to bring it to the floor in right, given that this was lily percentage from the sun and the beginning of August we ve been, we ve, been holding thing to vote on it. We all agreed to vote on it at the end of September. So here we and we also, by the way, need to make sure we get reconciliation done and twice

getting something done. A reconciliation is so important to their thing. like we're. Gonna get dialing like reinstating the state level, tax reduction, getting tat down all this recent energy put behind a very, very important issue. Climate change which we gotta fight and- and I am really looking forward to making sure we do everything we can on that front. So you know, I believe we ve got a great plan to get the president's agenda moving We could do it next weekend and so I'm just hoping everyone's. Therefore it effective as you know, is you need every vote you can get. So if that group of Progressive says we want free point, five trillion dollars. We don't want to come down on that number in the reconciliation package. We think all of the stuff in that bill is Adam Orton is the one trillion dollar infrastructure package. You can have one without the other. What kind of conversely Do you have with your progressive colleagues to say? Ok, I see or three point five here's what I need you to do this for me. Would you go as far as three point five trillion dollars you willing to negotiate down? Where are you on that? One sort of way

speakers which shoot and probably said last month. continue to say that what we vote on the house's wherever we can get fifty one in the Senate. I mean that's, that's what has to be worked on and- and you know what I've also said to my colleagues- is we all agreed every single democratic caucus all voted last month to bring this to the full bring the structure package for the floor next week, because it so important- and you know I want anyone- go home and have to look at the hard working men and women of labour and say, oh by the way we decided not to move forward with thick with your jobs- to fix our crumbling roads, bridges in tunnels, transit above all, the climate and all the stuff to help fight climate change that doesn't make any sense to me, so I'm hoping in and by the way, a speaker see who is better than anybody else. It bring votes in. You know, she's a fully behind the sheep probably said she'd get the votes, so you know why I just know will be there next week and and what this done and we're gonna get reconciliation done as well as I've said. That's my colleagues that we're all their on both

now work and have to keep working to agree on what that final packages, but I'll tell you there both to be historic and our first historic one starts in the beginning. week on on infrastructure and with damage or an republic, and we got Republicans tool which is in, I think we'll have. I saw yesterday at least a dozen publicans, and the house This morning there were nineteen Republicans in the Senate got you know a huge. Partisan win for the country as well, which I think is a really big deal sir okay, when I have another question about negotiations, but the sort of stop me and my thinking and in my tracks, when you said that the true Connell. Tween New York, New Jersey, that everybody uses to get out a New York undergo points West is hungry, thirteen years old, yes and at its literally crumbling I've been in there

it is unbelievable. Twenty percent of Americans GDP runs through their and this corridor, as you know that for the country and we go into the tunnel. I am happy to go with you. You literally she pieces coming off feeling of its shoulder in their every weekend, patching up the Electricity ones through. It is always shutting down. That's why a court or often get slow down. So there are still major infrastructure projects in the country, like this. A third of our british energy are considered unsafe with the third worse roads because country we stop investing in infrastructure and, in the end, the physical infrastructure. We have to do it including all electric vehicle infrastructure, which is the future that's in this bill as well. So the idea that any democratically small fraction of the democratic caucus would block this important legislation in just makes me sense to me an answer, that's why we're gonna work together. Take get everyone there. Well, first of all there

you for inviting me to go with you to the crumbling one hundred and thirteen albino. I think I'll give you. invitation to the new tunnel when it wait when it whenever its put in as it is desperately needs. We put it. So let me ask you about a times article that was that that interviewed, progressive than and was was published we are talking about the excruciating choices they would to make. If the bill was less than three point five trillion. Let's say it was at two point: five trillion dollar number that Jim Byron was talking about. It seems to me that for most Americans we're just throwing around numbers here, we don't know what we get for three points: I'm trillion, we don't know what we would get for two point: five trillion dollars. What would be like So if we and a kind of thing his words, going whether weather

everybody wants to go there or not and infrastructural bail and two point five trillion dollar reconciliation package. But if that is what Are we all end up what what is lost according to progressive? in that three point: five to two point: five trillion dollar drop was no and read! Today there are so many important probe in their on on child care, and of course we talked about on climate on health care so the way I look at this is theirs. There's time horizons. So some of these summits, Firms that are here might be for a shorter period of time, but the bottom line is. Yes, it's hard to know exactly what the end product is right now and then and it's hard to negotiate here. All that's exactly. We're doing right now we have to keep working on, but the most important point you just said is it will be an historic investment in our country in family in seniors, that's to me what climate. That's to me what

there's most and we ve got to keep working on it and not leave the table and we're doing right now. Is that meetings last night we'll be at meetings all day today getting that package ready, but but first for most of them said Monday. Let's all get behind this guy, by partisan bill that we all we devote our next week on infrastructure, get that done huge win for the country and now and then also get done separately, this reconciliation package. So I am optimistic about both and we'll get there are I can't

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