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solve murders these are the murders of Rhonda, Renee, Johnson and sharing Shaw. Ok, so she this the sources for the story, unsolved mysteries and season. Five episode, twenty four: that's on Amazon, Prime. He gonna watch it there's a book by and other name: Jamie Foster, called murder in Texas. The true story of Rhonda Johnson and Sharing Shaw, there's an article from the Houston Chronicle by a writer name, Lease Olsen or lease Alessi tight, Some suspects serial killer, nineteen, seventy one Galveston deaths, their self versus state Court of Appeals case brief, Jane, went into the case briefs and then the Wikipedia page murders of Rhonda, Johnson and Sharon Shaw Lease.

And also wrote an article four, the eastern Chronicle confessions of a cold blooded killer and there's an unsolved mysteries wiki with no author listed, but it talks about the case of Rhonda Johnson in Georgia, ok, so this story begins and Webster Texas on August Fourth, nineteen, seventy one so to friends, fifteen year old Sharon, Shaw and fourteen year old Rhonda, although she to be called Renee Johnson. They do so to spend the day water skiing at Wicks water, ski school, on off its by you in Galveston, which is twenty miles south of Webster. So they hit you ride with one of Sharon's neighbours and they go down to Galveston, but when they get there, the wind is true rough to actually go water skiing. So they end up spending the day at the beach instead and when they get the beach they run into their friend Glenda Willis, and she

to give him a ride back home, but Sheridan Renee aren't ready to leave. They want to stay at the beach a little longer, so they say no and Glenda leaves without them those moments. I stories our such babies to babies, fourteen or fifteen young. Very, sad. So later evening between eight and nine o clock Sharon and when they are spotted by eyewitnesses walking to the Jericho. Earth and ski shop. That's on sea, while boulevard- and that is the last time that their seen alive so that either when neither girls return home, their parents promptly call the police and report the missing. Both sharing and Renee are never noticed. Being adventurous, their tomboy types and their friends- and I remember them as being totally fearless action, Glenda and some other friends think maybe Sharon and Renee have run away to California. But since

is the granddaughter of a prominent local city, council met in Webster, who actually will later go on to become the mayor. This search for the girls is made very high priority, but even with special attention there's no sign of her, nay or share, and they can't find any clues on Sudan about five months later. On January third, nineteen. Seventy two two boys are boating and tailor by you, which is north of clear Lake, which has just east of Webster, and they said something strange in the water. They go up to check it out. They think it might be a volleyball but is actually a human skull yeah. So the boys kind the police, the police are searching the area and this ends up lasting for six weeks because it's all by you and marshland no around this lake they finally find the rest of this body that belongs to the skull anymore.

By the lake and then a second body is recovered as well. There significantly decayed, but with the help of dental records and Irrecognizable cross necklace wrapped around One of the victims, job bones: the bodies finally identified as sharing Shaw and Renee Johnson, so I'll tell a little bit about them. There's theirs pictures from the seventies, so they have very, very seventies, like hair on you can tell their beach eater tell their surf girls, water scheme, girls, Sharon, Shaw's, born August, eleventh, nineteen, fifty seven in mobile, Alabama, she's, the daughter of Weight and Marianne Shaw. This family makes their way to Webster Texas one Sharon's little and later she then meets her friend, Rhonda Renee Johnson, so Renee Johnson. She was born in Houston on December. Sixteen nineteen, fifty six to Charles Senior and Betty Johnson and her grandfather is the well known Webster

the council, men who will later become the mayor and the girls are known to be private and as their friend going to say fear lest they love to hang out by the beach and on access is south eastern shores and they often hitchhike their way around the area should, of course, it's early Seventy so very common around the most senior thirteen and fourteen in or fourteen fifty and fearless I mean like I would have hitchhiked at for. I will take the bus half an hour to Newport Beach was just pretty fuckin shady. At the time tat we had to take home some hind leg. Server do as I do on our own home, yet the of course, and also I think it's

that time words like. Yes, you are see yourself as a surfer girl or that you know you're in this year and certain click here than its super worth it to leave your little taxes, Taos added to the beach to get to that area and hang out and apparently in that area, where this water ski school was that it was that's what everyone around there was doing as very seventies. so in may- of nineteen. Seventy to the Webster City Council, hires, a new police chief named on Morris and in a new assistant chief named Tommy Deal, so both Morrison deal come over from the traffic division of the Texas Department of Public Safety and they both get right into the investigation of sharing and Renee his case within the first three weeks of taking their new jobs. Morrison deal get a tip us aspect from a city council man named Glenn price. He tells them to check out the air is known sex offenders list, and he specifically pinpoints one man by name

twenty three year old, Michael Lloyd, Self, so Michael, if as a gas station attendant in Webster, he's recently been arrested on two different peeping Tom incidents, but has since been released, and he is known to have a very low iq, around five in the morning on June, ninth nineteen, seventy two Tommy do and another police officer named Herman Morgan pay Michael, of a visit at the gas station. Where he's wrapping up his night shift and they go up to the pump that Michael Self working at and they said that they know he's been corn, unquote, thinking about two girls, so Michaels

has recently gotten a divorce and and then begun dating a near woman. So he assumes that these officers are talking about his axe and his new girlfriend. So he confirms it. Yes, he has indeed been thinking about two girls, not understanding that they are referring to share unshod Monet Johnson. What a weird way to open that line of questioning up yes- and I think it kind of- does indicate how much any average person, I think, would just be like sorry, don't know what you're talking about, but he assumed and maybe also cause it's a small town, but he just assumes they all understand sites like. Oh, you do know what I'm thinking I could I ever like here say not. You can't reason the rate so officers deal and Morgan say they like to speak with Michael Self further. So self willingly goes with the officers to the police station for questioning once he gets there. They show pictures of sharing and Renee and they ask if he knows them, and he says yes, he does know them and he names them there

still on the spot, and they pull him into interrogation. Room for questioning no officer deal and the other, sir, ask Michael if he murdered, sharing and Renee, but Michael swears up and down that he has had nothing to do with their deaths, deal bluffs and is that they have evidence connecting Michael Self to the murder but Michael maintains that he did not kill the girls and questioning officer Jerry Mitchell stopped by to observe he knows. Michael Self from around town, and he notes that, even though Michael's hands or handcuff behind his back, he seems relaxed, he's not nervous, ease, answering all of deals, questions and then after officer, Mitchell steps out chief of police, this new chief of Police Don Loris shows up. He asks to leave so that he can continue questioning Michael on his own. So so he does

and the Southern Don Loris starts asking self about the murders, but this time- and this is all according to Michael Self, after the fact when he again says he doesn't know anything about the murders Morris picked him up, pushes up against the wall and start shoving and night stick into a stomach over and over and saying he wants a confession. Any isn't. Gonna leave I go alone until he gets one hand so Michael search, crying moors, puts him back in his seat, and then Chief Moors takes out a gun. Omens, the chamber Ramos, five o the bullets, leaves the six bullet in stands each bullet upon the table in front of my goal and then with the one bullet left in the chamber, closes the chamber and points the gun. Michael O, my guy, and he threatened him with playing a game of russian roulette. So wars tells me that if he isn't sign, a confession, hell shoot him yeah and so, of course, Michael

of terrified he agrees needs starts, writing exactly what chief Morris tells them to re write. So after half, page of writing more makes him start over and rewrite the confession saying something isn't right. So at this point office Mitchell returned to the interrogation room, he's the non less than an hour, but he now notice is a complete change and Michael Self he's he's that he's a nervous wreck and that more has had him rewrite this confessions several times which action is odd. By the end, whole ordeal, Michael Self, has written a detailed confession stating that he picture Nan Sharon up from Sharon's house and that once in the car he describe giving them beer offering them we'd. He says they take the beer but decline the weed, and they do

and while he drives them around the clear lake area, and then he goes on to write the both girls were quote, feeling good and getting loud hanging out of his car window and hollering, as he drove them to clear lake and adequately He describes having a moment alone with Renee trying to assault her she's shut, that down heating. By their rejection. This according to his first statement, so he punches Renee in the head. it's on. Sharon runs over, so he hits her too. Then he says he strangled both girls and dumb, some somewhere in El Logo, so signs this confession and his promptly take. into custody, theirs, despite all those rewrites, though there still key inconsistency, is with this confession. is there no signs of strangulation on either of the remains that had been found that was ruled out as possible cause of death? Secondly, Sharon's mom says that Michael Self Doubt, Molly did not pick the girls up from her home. They had hit.

A ride with a neighbor how so she knew who the girls rode into Galveston with daddy and then third, the play He says he dumped. The bodies. Is twenty miles away from where the bodies were actually found? But at this point, more says he has his man and Microsoft has taken to jail so three, after this interrogation on June twelfth nineteen, seventy two against the vote advice of his attorney. He agrees take a lie: detector, Tasso, nineteen, seventy two I mean this is now but that lawyer now he knew from not to do it said the tests administrator asks, Michael if he didn t, kill rename Sharon Michael says yes, that his confession is true, but the two records. This as being a lie. Huh ask Michael about more murders that took place in the same area between one thousand nine hundred and seventy one and one thousand nine hundred and seventy two. claims to have information about those murders as well, but the lighted

Your task reveals that this too is false. so, even though this test points Michael's innocence, he's so afraid of Don Loris that he agrees to sign a second confession. Alleyway in this, can conversion. He says he was driving when he saw Rhonda walking down the road, so he picked her up. then he drove in ass, obey Yacht Club Rhonda hopped out. Back the Sharon, both girls gotten the car. So this direct, conflicts with this first Confess Anna and basic the one that Sharon's mother contradicted so now. It's like their updating at right, also confession, he describes punching the girls before strangling them, but in the second he says he hit share with a coke bottle and then dump their bodies in Taylor by you.

Some changes, a location completely aware even dumps yes, so, instead of where it was before, which was essentially kind of like a covert yeah. Now it's where its near, where they were found where there remains were found. So these revive Statements are more in line with the facts of the case but there is still more inconsistency that don't add up Michael, goes on to say in a second confession that he strip the girls clothing offer and through their clothes on the side of the highway. The both girls bodies were found with clothing. On still the confession is accepted. Michael self remains behind bars and he's awaiting trial than on June. Twenty third nineteen. Seventy two about two weeks after his arrest too as county sheriffs deputies, deputy sheriff Frank Beemer and deputy Sheriff Nebulae Turner check Michael Self. Out of jail, saying they're going to go, buy him a hamburger and they do but then afterwards they drive him to the EU.

The various locations that he mentioned in his confession, and they take pictures of him standing in those spots and This time, Michael Self directs them to a similar thing. That's where he originally pick the girls up so the chief of police in Cleveland Taxes, which is a nearby town. This guy's names Dave Kilburn. He visit Michael Self, in jail and Michael of, tells chief cover and he didn't murder anybody and goes on to describe the irrigation the russian roulette all the threats and now scared. He is of more us, and the thing is that chief cobra had actually seen more as play that same russian roulette game with a dick prisoner. This same way, Michael Self is describing so cool burns. A hundred percent certain that moors coerced Michael into this false confession, and he tells Michael Self I will attend to this in court.

Michael Selves, murder, trial begins on May fifteenth eighteen. Seventy three prosecutors rely heavily on this second written confession to make their case because The girls remains our to decompose to determine the exact cause of death. There's no physical evidence. Besides, Michael's confession and its alignment with the condition of the girls remains the photos, deputy sheriffs, Frank, Beemer and W a turner took of Michael Self on this kind of location. Tour are also presented in court as a third oral fashion now, if he took them to those places when really they took him. Yeah like it was his idea so Beemer and Turner tell the court Michael recounting is every move from the night of the murders as they stopped at each location. This account of cells oral confession is entered into court without objection whoops. So things look very about from uncle self, but please

Chief Coburg is prepared to testify that he witnessed Chief Don Loris pull the russian roulette stunt on another prisoner in nineteen. Seventy one which would be here for the Defense Kilburn, is ever called to the sea and wise so uncertain. Eighteen nineteen. Seventy four, the jury finds Michael Lloyd, self guilty of the murder of Sharon. Sean the first degree He sentenced to life in prison, so this ruling Michael Self, lawyer immediately files and appeal. He are is the defence attorney, argues that this supposed third confession entered at trial should be inadmissible because they illegally removed him from jail, but because Michael willingly agreed to go on that little tour and because his third concession was entered with no objection from the defence at the time of trial. The judge maintains that this third concession, is it possible and the court are is that all they need to roll Michael guilty are the properly

deed remains of the girls and the proof that victim, died by criminal means. The court said that, because Michael Selves, confession alliance with the conditions in which Sharon Shaw's body was found, that's enough to rule her dead by criminal means, even if they dont the precise cause of death, on one October. Ninth, seventeen. Seventy four Michael selves appeal: officially denied ruling of his trial, stands ok on September, seventeenth, nineteen. Seventy six three years after Michael Selves trial began something happens in the Texas, town of KEDO, Mills, that on its feet, seems entirely unrelated. Ma am so this information is from an art, well from the New York Times, but it's also I'm a twenty nineteen article in the Greenville Harold Banner. Where local name

Johnson, who is, I believe in his early eighties re, tells the story by his own first hand, account he was there the day cute like saw, this happened to the road club in Green, So, like a reporter, went down and wrote a story about the story that Joe tell silence pretty great took a year ago. its midmorning in KEDO, males little taxes, town, a man named Jerry Woods is walking out of the bank. and when he walks out, she sees two guys walking in many notice there, both wearing surgical, gloves and Jerry things to himself. This can't be good. I made that the quorum be did sure so he stops and watches as they enter the bank.

And put on schema, oh dear, so he knows this is a robbery. Obviously, so he runs across the street and to find the mayor Bobby Chapman and says: hey the bank's getting held of it. We were just talking about Vanka Rubbery, that's where those weird small bank robbers, Milltown Bank robbery, where it's all like. Will you see the bank robbery starting? So u turn NGO Judy Wanna, get you the mayor's right there. I so he grabs. The mare Bobby Chapman and is once he tells the mare that they all head down to Larry Basts Barbershop, because they know Larry has a rifle Let's go get low town right, let's go get a rifle while so when the bank robbers come out of the bank, they see Larry the barber standing there aiming at them with his thirty out six and then Jerry Woods who went and got his gun out of his truck she's. So basically there facing one direction and

the barber is as his rifle up and then they turn and look and Jerry Woods is aiming from the other direction so that two robbers one back inside the bank. They grew the bank receptionist song and take her with them. But what they don't know is that the bank receptionist also happens to be the bank press, and daughter nineteen year old, Sherry Johnson. Now so they take her hostage. They shut her into the stolen green mercury that they that they drove there and they had out of town and as they head out Larry. Arbour, shoots out the front right, tyre, okay, so they're still going but their car pretty screwed up near the robbers, return fire and shoot out the barber shop window as they speak out of man. Now this in the article I was reading Joe

whose telling the story also says hey. This is a long time ago, so that I might this might not all beak completely accurate. I absolutely love cause that gets reported in any article with care. Has here thou. I remember there's all I remember, and that don't mean shit so Larry, the barber and Bobby the mare jump into the mayor's car and they take off after these robbers rate and because it's the seventies back, then everyone has C b radios, oh yeah, so there's a c b in the mayor's car and everybody's on their CBS. So the mare gets on on the sea, be spread the word to be on the look out for a green mercury with its a flat front tyre. And their most likely headed toward the interstate, so he basically strewed the c b, the whole town gets this policy up of all and also there's a bunch of citizens that we either in the bank or near by who have now gone like what the hell's going on. So they bid.

Basically, everyone in town jumps into their trucks and cars with there I falls because its taxes for contacts with its taxes- they all have their guns with them and on their person, and they start all trying to find these bank robber. I just wonder if this poor or ass to have a better chance of survival if they weren't. following them. Well, here's what's good the answer's! No because it, in point based she later, would tell Russia Joe. They start fighting about what they're supposed to do with her. Now that there's witnesses and now all this and they end up throwing her out of the car along with one of the pistols they used in this bankrupt morale and yet a so good. That's no, even though the pressure was on that could have gone wrong ass. It helped her and in that regard great so they basically pull the car over near and abandoned building that at one point they

I d carjack a guy in a must stay and it says unsuccessfully, which to me means the guy in the most things like hold on them, each scrub, my rifle like they could they couldn't win in this town? They could and they end running across the field with their bag of money and all the citizens chased them down in this field, all get them and hold them at gunpoint until Sheriff Wayne Green arrives and arrest. Some and its at this point that every one learns the identity of these two bank robber, Webster Assistant, police Chief Tommy Deal Dallas COM, Deputy Sheriff George P Marshal and the account was getaway driver is Webster Police Chief, Don Loris, let man yeah. So it turns out Don Loris and Tommy deal. Our part of.

Bank robbing gang who have them sticking up small town banks around Texas, since nineteen seventy two wholly share their Both men are found guilty and this bank robbery Don Loris a sentence to fifty five years in prison. Tommy deal gets thirty years, their oath, eventually paroled Tommy, you'll end up going back to rubbing banks. Any winds up in federal prison. He love hobby, have he left he loved to do than to it. So after these arrests, Michael Selves, attorney Jerry Burn Burg, he petitions the court Michael a new trial, obviously bigot say obviously of the copse ruined Forget it self or prove to be corrupt than maybe I myself as a real shot at getting his case. Re examined her they haven't, evidence. She herring, and that knows well thing starting to look up and then nine days. For oral arguments, Michael

else gets another lucky break a man who still remains unidentified walks in them. Way station and Tailor Lake Texas and confessed to killing, Sharon and rye? What's this, His account of what happened is vague and disjointed, but he since one key element that the public had no knowledge of and was never made available. Yeah he tells police tied, sharing Renee up with black cord, which was found on the remains when they were recovered It then discovered that this man lives in this same apartment, complex as I believe it's as Renee I'm. He knows both girl, oh so, if she would pull over they wouldn't they were gal. Take a ride. I know the skies a neighbor correlate, yet there one problem. This man reportedly suffers from psychosis.

officers, as well as the prosecution say that this man is not saying and therefore has confessed, unreliable, and there isn't enough evidence to charge him, so he ever charged. The appeal is denied and Michael Selves conviction is upheld once again well on. timber twenty second. Ninety. Ninety two Michael tries to make one last appeal for a retrial on the grounds that his confession of than coerced but the denies it in ninety three they say they don't have ever any evidence of coercion and that Michael willingly went to the police station made his men and they the argument down again after several old attempts and the court denying M for all Michael Self is later diagnosed with cancer. Any dies behind bars the year two thousand at the age of fifty three. So there those and there are some of them- are family members of them girls who believe that Michael Self was guilty and that just

sir, but for those who believe that Microsoft confessions were coerced there, left wondering if the real killer is still out there, and then there are possible suspect, emerges in August of twenty fifteen, this is a man the time he is seventy, two years old and his name is Edward Harold Bell he aches, so Harold. Bell was arrested in nineteen. Seventy eight from murdering a twenty six year old Marine named Larry Dickens, who had tried to stop bell from Masturbating in front of a group of teenage girls in Pasadena. Texas guy is its jack hideous, crazy story, the Sahara Bell is sentenced to seventy years in prison, for this this murder I in jail, heralded meant to the authorities that he murdered eleven girls prior to his final arrest, and he were

to these victims as the eleven who went to Heaven in ninety ninety eight, he writes letters to authorities confessing to seven of these eleven murders and in them he mentioned. Sharon Shaw and Renee Johnson by their and yet now these letters are kept secret until twenty fifteen authority, assert that there wasn't enough evidence. Aside from the these letters of confession to charge Bell with any of the murders back and ninety ninety eight, and that's why no one asked about these letters, but once the news breaks it, they exist in twenty fifteen. They take a closer look. So here, basically the random starting in nineteen, sixty six Harold Bela's arrested multiple times for sex offences, usually from asked remaining in front of young girls, and he is to several different psychiatric hospitals over the next four years in nineteen.

Seventy. He seduces and marries a fellow mental patient who is only seventeen years old and apply His release bell and this girl, who is now his wife move in when apartment along off its by you, which is knit near where that water ski school, is yeah bill becomes a silent partner in the closer shop or all the water scares and circuits hang out After he's arrested for shooting, Larry Dickens and nineteen. Seventy eight Harold Bell: jumps bail and goes on the run in Mexico and Central America for the next fourteen year wholly share so he's taxes most wanted criminal, threw out the eighties and he's finally captured in Panama and ninety ninety two. So when confessional letters about these crimes committed in the seventies begin to arrive and ninety ninety eight, a thorn

he's dismiss them, as the ranting is of an attention seeking sex offender who's trying to get time knocked off his murder sentence, but by the time their looked at again in TWAIN. fifteen there so little evidence and eye witnesses left including some of the letters themselves that go missing, that its decided that there's nothing to be the case on and unable to. As twenty nineteen Harold Bell die. in prison without ever being charged for any of the eleven murders that he can ass to in detail, I wonder if his dna, as ever in quotas, we has that's how long time, Tat have been out doing falcon who knows why horrible things muslim, yeah yeah in this This was a very shocking like kind of detail because in nineteen. Eighty one Rosaria County Sheriff Lieutenant Matt Window. He said

Counting how many young women have been murdered in this area between one thousand nine hundred and seventy one and one thousand nine hundred and eighty one, twenty one young girls were shot, their bodies, were dumped into the nearby marshes in by use between one thousand nine hundred and seventy one and one thousand nine hundred and eighty one ten years and one he one young women him what the fuck How did nobody's fuckin pinpoint? that pattern layer, Well, because the Ets they were doing it backwards here they were saying here. Is the guy we're going to get where it is it? And now this is solved, and it's just that thing of

We talk about police corruption. We talk about people's having come confessions, Korea and what the thing that seems to get lost in that conversation is meanwhile right. Fourteen and fifteen year old girls are being plucked off of the street by some guy that no one fucking, suspect or no one's doing anything about and those serial killers are allowed. To continue killing will, while their locking up people whose iq isn't enough for them to keep themselves out of jail how's, the convenient person is locked away and end Everyone believes that things have entailed carrier and thence a string of unsolved murders, and you know, and maybe they're runaways were made, their kids. It hang out the beach, or maybe there people, they don't have said, council, who I grandfathers to advocate Ray, and so they just there

our bodies are found, or their bodies are looked for right right, Hitler in other forgotten. The forgotten victims are their quote, throw away victims and yet and which, in the like in the seventy, I mean that kind of defined that era totally so as satisfying as it is, is infuriating and frustrating it as it is. That's it tragic story of the murders of Sharon, Shaw and Rhonda Renee Johnson wow, what a fucking, history, like will never know and there's no hurry and that you can tat strikes able in the water. So long, probably right I mean, and who would do it? The

crooked cops that are fucking holding up there, who are bank rather bananas. Twists. I can't I let's that's why I was trying to read that really fast. As I was like, this is a twelve pager and I do apologize. I know what I did great. It's it's crazy and its lake riveting its wish there was justice system, and maybe with dna and with the kind of flake technology, that's coming out. It gets all it's getting a little bit less the human error element dare getting removed. I gotta how you have long us. Humans are involved, there's gonna, be human error, yeah sure. a lot of it. What great that was that was fascinating in our fallen! You did a good job. Thank you. This actually weirdly has some similarities to your case net. So I'm sure Hannah are wonderful. Producer put this

other on purpose. We love heard the words Karen Ear of the right to remain silent. Anything you say: can I will use against you in a corner la blah, blah blah blah blah. We ve heard it many movies and tv shows its like the corny that wine that ended the buck and seeing them on order our rights. There are right. There are right, yes, so may I heard them, and maybe some people listening of her them in real life? Would you now paying wife happens, but many people dont know that the history of the saying actually comes from a specific case of a past. We of course confession and the answer to this lies in the: U S: Supreme Court's, landmark, ruling on Miranda, verses, Arizona, thrive I'm gonna tell you the history of the Miranda re nice The sources I used today are and AP staff article, an article written by Rhine, do again for that

public. The Lewis and Roca law firm the impact of Miranda revisited by Richard AID Leo and the National Constitution Centre website so prior to the Miranda versus Arizona ruling. Suspects did have a right to remain silent and the right when attorney thanks to the fifth and sixth amendments, but that wasn't often relayed before interrogation at the time police procedures, when getting us aspect to confess, often implemented really aggressive tactics. The third degree whom that sort of thing, as we just heard in your story yet and relied on manipulations, strong, arming the suspects and I often lead to false confessions, and many subsequent wrongfully convicted people Example is the case of Brown versus Mississippi unmet thirty, eight nineteen, thirty four, a man named Raymond Store who was a white farmer.

was murdered in Camper County, Mississippi. Three black Farmers Arthur Ellington at Brown and Henry shields were arrested for his murder and subsequently confessed. trial that confession was the prosecutions only evidence to the three men guilt, but little didn't deny that three men had confessed, but that did so only after being subjected to brutal beatings by the officers. Quote. Defendants were made to strip and they were laid over chairs and their backs were cut to pieces with a leather strap with buckles on it, and they were like was made to understand that the whippings would be continued unless and until they confessed. So defended also been strung up by his neck from a tree in it into the whipping the defendants were killed. By a jury based on their course confessions and sentence to be hanged. The lake, the court revise the conviction saying that when a confession is extracted by police violence, it cannot

the entered as evidence. Ultimately, the three Heavens, pleaded no low contend re to manslaughter, rather than risk a retrial than they were sentenced to six months to and when. A few years and seven and one half years in prison, respectably yeah, so there being no other evidence against them. So please, you didn't have to make sure the suspects who knew about or understood their fifth and sixth amendment rights, which is how to make sure any confessions were made quote voluntarily and that's what an ex police allegedly thought they were getting on March thirteen nineteen sixty three when they gotta fashion Adam Ernesto Miranda so march. Nineteen sixty three and eighteen year old woman who was referred to by the pseudonym Patricia we're is kidnapped, around and raped in Phoenix Arizona, sugar the police and tells them that the perpetrators car is green or grey, with dark, striped upholstery inside and that the car smelled

turpentine, which has such a creepy off all detail media around a week later, a family member Patricia sees a car that matches description of the perpetrators car. He writes part of the license plate, The family number then goes to the detective in charge, Carol coolly and gives him the partial license plate number and tells him had. He thinks the cars and nineteen fifty three packard Oh coolly runs the partial in the system and fines around a thousand something license plates in Arizona, but then there is one car, that's a nineteen, fifty three packard, so he looks up. Owners name and finds that its Ernesto Miranda coolly notices. Ernesto has a criminal history, including robbery and attempted Wraith, he thinks it. S just seems like a solid suspect for the kidnapping and rape of Patricia Twitter. Harold Ernesto, who was born in Mesa nineteen forty one and had in a grey education has a law

criminal history. Just gonna do a quick summary of it. Part of the story is that this is in a great guy and actually might have been guilty of this. She has long criminal history. He was arrested for his first felony when he was an eighth grade. A few months later, Ernesto was arrested for burglary and sent to a school for delinquent children. Two months after here. school, he was charged with attempted rape and assault when he got prison. He continued getting charged with crimes like peeping, armed robbery and stealing cars. You was in an prison, but a merchant in sixty three he was free now is living with his girlfriend. So Ernesto was the best guy that ever lived, but that doesn't mean she didn't have rights so on March. Thirteenth coolly goes to Esto and his girlfriends house. She opens the door holding their baby there other kid around her coolly ass for Ernesto he comes

The bedroom had just woken up and he says school tells him. He doesn't want to talk to him in front of his family. Will he come down the police station, two agrees. He's not handcuff because he is an under arrest in these not told us the right to remain silent or to an attorney because ease it. Isn't the law at the time when at the station. A sergeant how coolly that there is an unsolved robbery or the suspect, also matches earnest as description and said this don't tell coolly to talk to or asked about the robbery. In addition to the rape of Patricia so picture it was brought into view a line up, and so is the unsolved robbery victim an eye woman name, Barbara Mcdaniel and both women view the line up and pick Ernesto out. I think it was only for men, they say he quit looks like the perpetrator or not that he is for sure the guy, which I guess what what from when I write is pretty typical, was suspect, mine ups, let alone it is done. Ernesto asked how he did and coolly says he was picked out by both victims. Coolly,

Ernest out all right out a confession for both crimes. So in the night sixties typical interrogation tactics, included, isolating the accused in a cell in solitary confinement. They which shine bright lights in their face for hours, and then deprive them the arab country. with a lawyer or any family members. And so all, though he was only question for two hours and some say Ernest, oh may have been harassed into his confession. Although coolly calls total bullshit on that, he does right out his own confession at the top each page, there's a printed certification that he signs. It reads quote this statement is voluntary and of my own free well with no threats, coercion or promises of immunity and with full, now My legal rights understanding, any statement I make may be used against me pushes like cannot make education. So he made not have understood that at all also

I can't tell you how many things I sign without the small, the fine print everything, but I feel like I've. We weren't a police station, the pressure and, like you know that he wasn't by himself, like they didn't say, take your time and really were over. That re like there was probably seven standing right behind him or you don't mean it just like Cyrus I'm here and you don't even get to Rita, which is why, like that's, what a lawyers for as they actually understand all that stuff, which is why it's on poor and even if you are innocent, to have a lawyer that, because you, you still the sign shit to get out of there. Yes, you know yet you need, when familiar at the document with the law, yeah yeah, they fear repay. You, have your rights, but you don't have any because it's the sixties, statement, isn't exactly true, because Ernesto hasn't been informed of his right to remain silent or to have an attorney present so earnestly later said, he was told the robbery charges would be dropped if he confessed to the kidnapping charge and that's why he confessed so it almost seems like from

I've read: there's no part of him saying where do it: in our men. You guys can a bargaining yeah. Maybe he was guilty and he was bargaining in our which some maybe a defence attorney would have done. But I am not. I can't say for certain that he was guilty, but nothing in the south. I read says that he tried it convince anyone who was it. I mean I kind of I liked the point. Making. No, which is the The aim is: not perfection re because that's not you don't have to earn your rights, you get them automatically rights right. But when he's a rain or Ernesto finds out the robbery charge hasn't been dropped. He asked the multiple times and doesn't get one for two weeks when it this chamber and elsewhere to face a trial for the kidnapping and right of Patricia Ernesto attorney objects to investors, written confession being entered the evidence. The attorney says it Supreme Court has previously world that a suspect is entitled to an attorney during interrogation. The judge over

was the objection at convention is entered into evidence. An earnest Miranda was found guilty of rape and kidnapping and sentenced to twenty to thirty years for each conviction so earnestly peels to the Arizona Supreme Court, but they affirm his sentence and then, in June nineteen sixty five Ernesto request at the: U S Supreme Court Review his case, the issue. You find out about it and ass. Multiple journeys from the Lewis and Roca law firm in Phoenix to represent him pro bono and Next layer is John P, Frank and John Jay Flynn agree to take the case, arguing that Miranda's confession was obtained using intolerable and unlawful interrogation techniques and they agree to write a petition the Supreme Court's arguing his faith, amendments rights were violated Supreme Court I guess, has a few of these one of these cases and they decide to address four cases involving lamb, these rights at once and then

by consolidating them into one ruling. So in each case the defendant was questioned by police and quote a room in which he was cut off from the outside world. The defence, were never given, quote full and effective warning of their rights or then irrigation and the questioning led to sign statements that were admitted a trial, so earnest us the four cases selected for review the others are Roy, Stuart, Michael Vick, nearer and Karl West over me. recognize any those names, and the reason we hear it as a Miranda Rights is because his last name was first alphabetically, like that's fucking as yet it could have been the west overwrites yet or the Fuckin Stuart rights which is like That is an issue where little detail about it So on June thirteenth night sixty six in a five to four decision. The Supreme Court overturns all of their convictions in the other ones, are off conifer, robberies and that sort of thing I'm the court.

Rules and no confession is admissible in court. If a suspect was not made clear of their rights before the interrogation began, the suspect clearly informed of the right to remain silent and that anything they say will be used against them in court. They have the right to an attorney. If they can afford one, an attorney will be appointed to them. You know Those having read IRAN's right, always here we're its ruling as controversial its opposed by. Of course, the police, who are Howard, and they got a confession. If we can't strong arm them. Prosecutor is the media politicians. They cover. I'm chief justice, Earl Warrens Impeachment, who was in charge of the Supreme Court decision. Police officers believe they will not be able to get a confession. if they know their rights yeah shows like well, that's the fucking point of this entire thing rate The ruling completely changes how law enforcement goes about obtaining confessions and lay just landmark is following this up

court's decision, the police departments, create Miranda warning card, so they give all the officers knees car. To carry around with them when the words contained the now famous Miranda rights in February sixty seven Ernesto Miranda's retried for the rape and kidnapping charges, time has signed. Confession has not ended evidence, but he still found guilty and sentenced to twenty years for each conviction, so yeah Mr Miranda's paroled in December nineteen. Seventy two! So so much for those twenty two fuckin thirty years rather than on say he's famous in prison. He was famines like one time. They said something about in the news that someone is rather Miranda rights and that everyone in the cell block cheer So on the outside, his famous he autographs Miranda Warning cards for a dollar fifty each Almost immediately after being released on parole he's violates, as per all sent back to prison, released again in December nineteen. Seventy five on January,

we first night seventy six earnest, as involved in a bar fight in Phoenix at this dive bar Cobb Long Paulo after a card game, goes wrong. The amount that sort of thing amending Is he keel? Moraine out pariahs ends up stabbing Ernesto multiple times and by the time the paramedics arrive. Thirty four year old, Ernesto Miranda is dead low fine Marino at a nearby motel read him. His Miranda Rights by IRAN. later on a gleam, but they don't take him into custody. He fleas he's never found whoa. I know and today the Miranda Rights are one of the most recognisable and influential legal decisions in modern policing, and that is this Ray of Ernesto Miranda and the Miranda rights you know it blows my mind, is it cause? I it feels like these days when things need to change or there's been

kind of like overhaul type things we and I mean all just speak for myself. I am always like they'll. Never do that. That will never have re because Nobody wants that point of time to be like so now we have made it so that you have to read them their rights. Now you have to do it. Yeah, especially to a group of people, the police, yeah they're the ones who tell other people what rights and suddenly they have people telling them and their argument. As like we're trying to keep these criminals off of your streets, are they want her ear like or trying to do the right thing in their minds? Of course, you know right. That's what they think and now you're impeding that by putting these rules, which is like well, no fuckin group can be and police and, as I keep people say if it lay the point, is public safety and you can

that by any means necessary or there is. He has absolute power of Arabs absolutely and then suddenly you have the all I could think of. As you are telling, the story was at horrifying. Seen from a confidential where they have. those boys that young black kids they get arrested. Yes, because that that girl is re, brain a sign and they separate all of them and they do they do the third degree yeah, and it is so disturbing and is so scary and of course it works and they were innocent and there's case after case, especially of people of color, who that third degree is used with that with impunity. And there are so many confessions because of it and nodded, and that means the person who actually committed the crime goes free, yes, and how is that? Keeping our streets safe and public safe? If that's what's happening,

yeah. You can just beat the shit out of someone and make them do you. Why, yes, you're going to get this thing done in front of you right now, but ultimately you, are going to still have twenty one Tina Girls murdered, began. Nineteen, seventy one nineteen, eighty one and the girl scenario because you called on Quote- took care of a half, because you scare the ever loving shit out of a suspect with who didn't know any about our who had never presentation, he appointed a kind at their happy. I could, if I will confess, to something someone pop up and put a gun my eyes. Well, that's great that's fascinating information! It's a kind of stuff like then I would have, if you ask me, I would have said, oh yeah. I know I know about the and I know, but I don t I just found out about it four years ago. As a key, I guess that it makes sense that the name Miranda has just made up were legates, it's so much in our lexicon that we don't even consider the fact that its actually so

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